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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: LaQuitter on May 11, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
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Hello everyone, my name is Scott. I am from South Louisiana. Today is Day 9 for me. 9 days ago, I finally had enough of an addiction literally running my life, so I flushed 2 cans down the toilet.
Anyway, so far I have been "that guy", the one that just shows up daily to post roll. I have been unable to really make it around the site and check things out and get myself involved. However, from what little I have seen, it has been a tremendous help.
I'd like to say a quick "thank you" to Curtis, aka Outdoortexan, who introduced me to this fine web site.
Okay guys, I could go on and on, which would be inappropriate. I have a lot to say, but it's all things that have a time and place, and that time and place is my HOF speech in August, WHICH I WILL MAKE!!
Thanks for reading this guys.
Scott
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Scott - glad to have you as a quit brother. I am 9 days in, and each time I see your roll call I wonder if we were purging our "last tins" at the same time. If you need anything, or have an "inappropriate" stories to tell, don't hesitate to reach out.
Be Committed, Stay Quit(ted)!
Justin
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LAQuitter,
Great to have you as an August group quitter, like I am. I noticed you said you are from South Louisiana........I am too......Lafayette area. Small world.
Hang in there with the quit !!
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LAQuitter,
Great to have you as an August group quitter, like I am. I noticed you said you are from South Louisiana........I am too......Lafayette area. Small world.
Hang in there with the quit !!
All:
As a recent addition to the august group......I salute all of you on your quit. This is has been a real struggle for me over the last 18 days. I barely made it out of the gas station this morning....they were having the infamous buy one get one "sale"!
I am anxious to see all of hit that August mark.....if you ever need anything, you know where you can find me!
Push through it!
Stretch
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Push through it!
Stretch [/QUOTE]
These are the words JayDisco whispers when I freak him in the ass.
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Push through it!
Stretch
These are the words JayDisco whispers when I freak him in the ass. [/QUOTE]
Yeah wtf??? LOL.
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Push through it!
Stretch
These are the words JayDisco whispers when I freak him in the ass.
Yeah wtf??? LOL. [/QUOTE]
how about "keep the shit out of your lip!"
Is that more on level with what we all want to hear?
chalk it up to a newbie mistake....the gloves are off from now on!
Thanks for the slap in the face on sounding like a homo!
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Push through it!
Stretch
These are the words JayDisco whispers when I freak him in the ass.
Yeah wtf??? LOL.
how about "keep the shit out of your lip!"
Is that more on level with what we all want to hear?
chalk it up to a newbie mistake....the gloves are off from now on!
Thanks for the slap in the face on sounding like a homo! [/QUOTE]
Dean IS a homo.
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Push through it!
Stretch
These are the words JayDisco whispers when I freak him in the ass.
Yeah wtf??? LOL.
how about "keep the shit out of your lip!"
Is that more on level with what we all want to hear?
chalk it up to a newbie mistake....the gloves are off from now on!
Thanks for the slap in the face on sounding like a homo!
Dean IS a homo. [/QUOTE]
and his nickname wasn't stretch, thats just what he would do for the fellas...
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Push through it!
Stretch
These are the words JayDisco whispers when I freak him in the ass.
Yeah wtf??? LOL.
how about "keep the shit out of your lip!"
Is that more on level with what we all want to hear?
chalk it up to a newbie mistake....the gloves are off from now on!
Thanks for the slap in the face on sounding like a homo!
Dean IS a homo.
and his nickname wasn't stretch, thats just what he would do for the fellas...[/QUOTE]
Only if they fuckin' smile real pretty for me!
How's that shitty Fog treating you? Took me until day 12 or so to come out of it....still drift there from time to time! I find myself wondering back here when it gets too thick. just watch out for that nic bitch when you're really in the thick shit! 'blowup'
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Fogs a bitch. I'm handling my business alright these days, but there is a lot going on. You know the phase no better time than the present? well, I picked a hell of a time to quit the shit - I'm determined though. My wife has been great, and the kids..well shit they're always there for me. I am just focusing on how much worse I would have it if I was wrestling the bear while trying to keep my shit together.
Kodiak and got shit on me!!
'disco
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I think I have decided to follow the lead of some of you guys, and use my intro page here as a blogspot, maybe for a weekly rambling or something. Sometimes I wonder if my posts in my August group even get read, as there is usually little feedback. So, in an effort to stimulate some engagement, maybe I'll post my bullshit here too. Anyone who cares to, feel free to jump right in and join the conversation.
Complacency. After reading what goes on here with those who cave, and also based on my own personal cave in 2003 after 14 months of quit, I have come to the conclusion that complacency is the #1 quit killer there is.
We must remember that WE ARE ADDICTS, AND THAT IS FOREVER. Do you seriously think your nicotine addiction can't jump up and bite you in the ass after one, two, three years quit?? You are an addict my friend, and you will always carry this demon with you.
What is going to separate you as a successful quitter from the failure who caves? You have the tools to stay quit, and you will continue to use them in some form or fashion. The caver will have grown complacent in his quit. He will forget why and how he quit. He will forget that he is an addict. Like you, he has the tools to stay quit, but he will fail to use them.
It may seem hard to keep the quit fire burning sometimes, but stay engaged somehow. Re-read some of the things that have motivated you in the past. Go find a new quitter that needs guidance. Be proactive in your quits, and the quits of others.
Avoid the complacency that will suck you back down into the shitty life of addiction. Don't let complacency and weakness be what kills you. That is what we are talking about, life and death. Our habits were going to kill us. Fuck that.
Tobacco will not kill me.
LAQ
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So there have been a few things throughout my time here at KTC that have eaten at me. One of these things is the exchanging of phone numbers.
I have seen many new quitters question why they should exchange phone numbers. I am going to give you my phone number so that you can call me anytime you are craving. If you call me, we can talk it out. Or, we can just chat about anything. The point is, you are making me aware of your weak moment, and we are going to spend some time talking about anything you want. That time spent on the phone will be a crave killer. The craving will have passed. Addditionally, there will probably have been some very valuable information exchanged for both you and I to learn from, and apply to our quits.
Now, this is a two-way street. You will also be giving me your phone number when I give you mine. Why you ask? Well, if you don't post roll on any given day, I will be texting you to find out why, and urge you to post. I will call you, encouraging you to post roll. In short, I will be hunting you down. Giving me your phone number allows me to hold you to a higher degree of accountability.
It is a mutual exchange, that will be mutually beneficial to both of our quits. Unfortunately, and oddly enough, even prepared quitters fail to use this tool. See my post below regarding complacency.
I know it may seem awkward to be exchanging your phone number with a stranger. But I can promise you that doing this will one day save your quit. And you don't always have to talk about "the quit". You can usually find common ground with someone.....children, careers, hobbies, etc. And who knows, you might actually make some great friends in the process. I know I have.
As a side note, the quit is going good for me right now. My cravings have been few lately. Still having to quash the oral habit with gum (slowing down on the sunflower seeds). There is just no going back for me. I can honestly say that I look back at my time as a nicotine abuser, and I do not miss it. There was nothing beneficial to be gained by using it. But don't think I am not always vigilant. I purposely smack the nic bitch every day when I post roll, just to remind her that I am fucking done with her.
LaQuitter - 141 - I am quit.
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So there have been a few things throughout my time here at KTC that have eaten at me. One of these things is the exchanging of phone numbers.
I have seen many new quitters question why they should exchange phone numbers. I am going to give you my phone number so that you can call me anytime you are craving. If you call me, we can talk it out. Or, we can just chat about anything. The point is, you are making me aware of your weak moment, and we are going to spend some time talking about anything you want. That time spent on the phone will be a crave killer. The craving will have passed. Addditionally, there will probably have been some very valuable information exchanged for both you and I to learn from, and apply to our quits.
Now, this is a two-way street. You will also be giving me your phone number when I give you mine. Why you ask? Well, if you don't post roll on any given day, I will be texting you to find out why, and urge you to post. I will call you, encouraging you to post roll. In short, I will be hunting you down. Giving me your phone number allows me to hold you to a higher degree of accountability.
It is a mutual exchange, that will be mutually beneficial to both of our quits. Unfortunately, and oddly enough, even prepared quitters fail to use this tool. See my post below regarding complacency.
I know it may seem awkward to be exchanging your phone number with a stranger. But I can promise you that doing this will one day save your quit. And you don't always have to talk about "the quit". You can usually find common ground with someone.....children, careers, hobbies, etc. And who knows, you might actually make some great friends in the process. I know I have.
As a side note, the quit is going good for me right now. My cravings have been few lately. Still having to quash the oral habit with gum (slowing down on the sunflower seeds). There is just no going back for me. I can honestly say that I look back at my time as a nicotine abuser, and I do not miss it. There was nothing beneficial to be gained by using it. But don't think I am not always vigilant. I purposely smack the nic bitch every day when I post roll, just to remind her that I am fucking done with her.
LaQuitter - 141 - I am quit.
You're right, man. I wish I had b0yer's number at this moment, so I could call and rip him a new asshole for not posting in 3 days. He quit the same day as me and two others in the December group. If I had his number I might be able to help. (I do have several numbers, probably 8, just not his).
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Damn, haven't ventured in to this here page yet. Good shit in here LA.
This guy knows how to get this shit done. Can't speak for August '09, but LAQuitter is one of the most consistent posters in August '08.
Seek support where you need it. And if you feel like you don't need it, that's when you most need it.
Stay close quitters.
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Well, I was apprehensive about this past weekend. I spent it deer hunting, for the first time since quitting. Hunting was one of my "triggers".
I realized this weekend that once I had overcome one "trigger", I had them all whipped. I have gotten past many triggers over the last 157 days. And I enjoyed the hell out of deer hunting without that can of cancer.
DO NOT let the nic bitch fool you into thinking you need her for ANYTHING. Simply stated, life is just better without her.
Scott - Day 157 - the bitch better run and hide.
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Well, I was apprehensive about this past weekend. I spent it deer hunting, for the first time since quitting. Hunting was one of my "triggers".
I realized this weekend that once I had overcome one "trigger", I had them all whipped. I have gotten past many triggers over the last 157 days. And I enjoyed the hell out of deer hunting without that can of cancer.
DO NOT let the nic bitch fool you into thinking you need her for ANYTHING. Simply stated, life is just better without her.
Scott - Day 157 - the bitch better run and hide.
Hunting was one of my biggest worries last year.
I was a bit suprised at the time but the outdoor experience, just like everything else, is way better without. I am suprised no longer.
Nice job LaQ!
P.S. When is the "LaQ is providing backstraps" cookout?
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Well, I was apprehensive about this past weekend. I spent it deer hunting, for the first time since quitting. Hunting was one of my "triggers".
I realized this weekend that once I had overcome one "trigger", I had them all whipped. I have gotten past many triggers over the last 157 days. And I enjoyed the hell out of deer hunting without that can of cancer.Â
DO NOT let the nic bitch fool you into thinking you need her for ANYTHING. Simply stated, life is just better without her.
Scott - Day 157 - the bitch better run and hide.
Hunting was one of my biggest worries last year.
I was a bit suprised at the time but the outdoor experience, just like everything else, is way better without. I am suprised no longer.
Nice job LaQ!
P.S. When is the "LaQ is providing backstraps" cookout?
Thanks redtrain.
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Well, I was apprehensive about this past weekend. I spent it deer hunting, for the first time since quitting. Hunting was one of my "triggers".
I realized this weekend that once I had overcome one "trigger", I had them all whipped. I have gotten past many triggers over the last 157 days. And I enjoyed the hell out of deer hunting without that can of cancer.Â
DO NOT let the nic bitch fool you into thinking you need her for ANYTHING. Simply stated, life is just better without her.
Scott - Day 157 - the bitch better run and hide.
Hunting was one of my biggest worries last year.
I was a bit suprised at the time but the outdoor experience, just like everything else, is way better without. I am suprised no longer.
Nice job LaQ!
P.S. When is the "LaQ is providing backstraps" cookout?
Thanks redtrain.
Bro, as soon as I kill, the cookout is on!! 'Remshot'
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Well, I was apprehensive about this past weekend. I spent it deer hunting, for the first time since quitting. Hunting was one of my "triggers".
I realized this weekend that once I had overcome one "trigger", I had them all whipped. I have gotten past many triggers over the last 157 days. And I enjoyed the hell out of deer hunting without that can of cancer.Â
DO NOT let the nic bitch fool you into thinking you need her for ANYTHING. Simply stated, life is just better without her.
Scott - Day 157 - the bitch better run and hide.
Hunting was one of my biggest worries last year.
I was a bit suprised at the time but the outdoor experience, just like everything else, is way better without. I am suprised no longer.
Nice job LaQ!
P.S. When is the "LaQ is providing backstraps" cookout?
Thanks redtrain.
Bro, as soon as I kill, the cookout is on!! 'Remshot'
Thanks for all the encouragement..and the show of strength
You are in control of your triggers
I hope at least a few newbies take notice and follow your lead - Post roll like 8 pounds 6 ounces... new born infant jesus himself was telling you to do it.
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Nevermind.
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Nevermind.
No tell us.
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Nevermind.
No tell us.
I woke up in a fucked up mood today, and was just feeling the need to rage earlier. But I changed my mind.
Then, I actually did let loose a little in August 09. It's all good brother. I just wanted to tell someone to fuck off.
But not you Glenn. :D
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Here's something else that eats at me, on a daily basis.
Posting roll.
When we post roll, that is our promise to our quit brothers/sisters that we will not use nicotine that day, in any form. Posting roll every day creates accountability, and this is what our quits are built upon.
I will try to make a long story short. Simply stated, there is really no acceptable excuse for your name to not be on your groups roll, every day. I had a quit brother in the hospital last week. He made it a point to let me know what was going on, and he had me post roll for him every day. Anyone would have understood if he had gone missing for a few days for this reason, and showed back up posting roll with an explanation. However, that wasn't good enough for this quitter. He wanted to make sure that he was counted among the committed.
You say that you "forgot" to post roll. Well, figure out how to remember. Did you ever forget to stop at the convenience store and buy a can of shit? You are "busy". So am I. So is every other quitter. So what. Make it your business to post roll. Early in the day. Every day. Ramble on if you must about your "busy life". Be boastful about staying quit for "X" days without posting roll if that makes you feel better. You are no more quit that I am because you did it without posting roll. The fact of the matter is, your quit will be more successful with a support system in place. Here is your support system, right in front of you. But you have to use it for it to work.
I am an advocate of posting roll in the morning before you leave the house for work, school, whatever. It's part of my morning routine.
Does your trustworthiness, integrity, dependability, and commitment mean anything at all to you? You chose to quit here, no one forced you to. You posted that Day 1, now be accountable. To your quit brothers/sisters, and to yourself.
Scott - for the 164th day in a row, I promise that I am quit.
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Here's something else that eats at me, on a daily basis.
Posting roll.
When we post roll, that is our promise to our quit brothers/sisters that we will not use nicotine that day, in any form. Posting roll every day creates accountability, and this is what our quits are built upon.
I will try to make a long story short. Simply stated, there is really no acceptable excuse for your name to not be on your groups roll, every day. I had a quit brother in the hospital last week. He made it a point to let me know what was going on, and he had me post roll for him every day. Anyone would have understood if he had gone missing for a few days for this reason, and showed back up posting roll with an explanation. However, that wasn't good enough for this quitter. He wanted to make sure that he was counted among the committed.
You say that you "forgot" to post roll. Well, figure out how to remember. Did you ever forget to stop at the convenience store and buy a can of shit? You are "busy". So am I. So is every other quitter. So what. Make it your business to post roll. Early in the day. Every day. Ramble on if you must about your "busy life". Be boastful about staying quit for "X" days without posting roll if that makes you feel better. You are no more quit that I am because you did it without posting roll. The fact of the matter is, your quit will be more successful with a support system in place. Here is your support system, right in front of you. But you have to use it for it to work.
I am an advocate of posting roll in the morning before you leave the house for work, school, whatever. It's part of my morning routine.
Does your trustworthiness, integrity, dependability, and commitment mean anything at all to you? You chose to quit here, no one forced you to. You posted that Day 1, now be accountable. To your quit brothers/sisters, and to yourself.
Scott - for the 164th day in a row, I promise that I am quit.
Scott,
Fuck them.
That is all.
Justin.
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Here's something else that eats at me, on a daily basis.
Posting roll.Â
When we post roll, that is our promise to our quit brothers/sisters that we will not use nicotine that day, in any form. Posting roll every day creates accountability, and this is what our quits are built upon.
I will try to make a long story short. Simply stated, there is really no acceptable excuse for your name to not be on your groups roll, every day. I had a quit brother in the hospital last week. He made it a point to let me know what was going on, and he had me post roll for him every day. Anyone would have understood if he had gone missing for a few days for this reason, and showed back up posting roll with an explanation. However, that wasn't good enough for this quitter. He wanted to make sure that he was counted among the committed.
You say that you "forgot" to post roll. Well, figure out how to remember. Did you ever forget to stop at the convenience store and buy a can of shit? You are "busy". So am I. So is every other quitter. So what. Make it your business to post roll. Early in the day. Every day. Ramble on if you must about your "busy life". Be boastful about staying quit for "X" days without posting roll if that makes you feel better. You are no more quit that I am because you did it without posting roll. The fact of the matter is, your quit will be more successful with a support system in place. Here is your support system, right in front of you. But you have to use it for it to work.Â
I am an advocate of posting roll in the morning before you leave the house for work, school, whatever. It's part of my morning routine.Â
Does your trustworthiness, integrity, dependability, and commitment mean anything at all to you? You chose to quit here, no one forced you to. You posted that Day 1, now be accountable. To your quit brothers/sisters, and to yourself.Â
Scott - for the 164th day in a row, I promise that I am quit.
Scott,
Fuck them.
That is all.
Justin.
You are so jaded Justin. :wub:
I know.
I don't really enjoy pissing into the wind....but somebody has to.
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Here's something else that eats at me, on a daily basis.
Posting roll.Â
When we post roll, that is our promise to our quit brothers/sisters that we will not use nicotine that day, in any form. Posting roll every day creates accountability, and this is what our quits are built upon.
I will try to make a long story short. Simply stated, there is really no acceptable excuse for your name to not be on your groups roll, every day. I had a quit brother in the hospital last week. He made it a point to let me know what was going on, and he had me post roll for him every day. Anyone would have understood if he had gone missing for a few days for this reason, and showed back up posting roll with an explanation. However, that wasn't good enough for this quitter. He wanted to make sure that he was counted among the committed.
You say that you "forgot" to post roll. Well, figure out how to remember. Did you ever forget to stop at the convenience store and buy a can of shit? You are "busy". So am I. So is every other quitter. So what. Make it your business to post roll. Early in the day. Every day. Ramble on if you must about your "busy life". Be boastful about staying quit for "X" days without posting roll if that makes you feel better. You are no more quit that I am because you did it without posting roll. The fact of the matter is, your quit will be more successful with a support system in place. Here is your support system, right in front of you. But you have to use it for it to work.Â
I am an advocate of posting roll in the morning before you leave the house for work, school, whatever. It's part of my morning routine.Â
Does your trustworthiness, integrity, dependability, and commitment mean anything at all to you? You chose to quit here, no one forced you to. You posted that Day 1, now be accountable. To your quit brothers/sisters, and to yourself.Â
Scott - for the 164th day in a row, I promise that I am quit.
Scott,
Fuck them.
That is all.
Justin.
You are so jaded Justin. :wub:
I know.
I don't really enjoy pissing into the wind....but somebody has to.
Can a brother get an AMEN?
I'll never understand how it is so fucking difficult for some people to grasp the importance of posting roll - ESPECIALLY when you are pre-HOF but I can make a case for post hall in the same breath. I have seen plenty of peeps come back after a cave spewing the same bullshit - "I drifted away from the site and....." fill in the blank with your favorite BS excuse.
I had some January dude tell me today after going silent for 5 days of not posting roll (all under 10 days mind you) "Had to quit the site. Still plugging away". I realize we expect SOOOOO fucking much of your time - hell it takes, what, 30 seconds MAX to give me your fucking word? If you aren't near a machine - maybe half that to text it in to a quit brother? Quit the site - LOL - how about quitting the NIC BITCH?
Shit man - now you got me all riled up. I guess it all boils down to the mind of an addict - you either drink the kool aid here and help KTC help you or you don't and you are destined to be an active, using addict for a while longer. I only hope people come to their senses eventually.
I take solace in the fact that when their sorry, non-roll postin' ass comes back a year from now - I'll still be here happy to beat on them for being a pussy with a bigger number after my name. :):)
Sorry to "rant in your parade" but that touches a nerve - especially today.
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Here's something else that eats at me, on a daily basis.
Posting roll.Â
When we post roll, that is our promise to our quit brothers/sisters that we will not use nicotine that day, in any form. Posting roll every day creates accountability, and this is what our quits are built upon.
I will try to make a long story short. Simply stated, there is really no acceptable excuse for your name to not be on your groups roll, every day. I had a quit brother in the hospital last week. He made it a point to let me know what was going on, and he had me post roll for him every day. Anyone would have understood if he had gone missing for a few days for this reason, and showed back up posting roll with an explanation. However, that wasn't good enough for this quitter. He wanted to make sure that he was counted among the committed.
You say that you "forgot" to post roll. Well, figure out how to remember. Did you ever forget to stop at the convenience store and buy a can of shit? You are "busy". So am I. So is every other quitter. So what. Make it your business to post roll. Early in the day. Every day. Ramble on if you must about your "busy life". Be boastful about staying quit for "X" days without posting roll if that makes you feel better. You are no more quit that I am because you did it without posting roll. The fact of the matter is, your quit will be more successful with a support system in place. Here is your support system, right in front of you. But you have to use it for it to work.Â
I am an advocate of posting roll in the morning before you leave the house for work, school, whatever. It's part of my morning routine.Â
Does your trustworthiness, integrity, dependability, and commitment mean anything at all to you? You chose to quit here, no one forced you to. You posted that Day 1, now be accountable. To your quit brothers/sisters, and to yourself.Â
Scott - for the 164th day in a row, I promise that I am quit.
Scott,
Fuck them.
That is all.
Justin.
You are so jaded Justin. :wub:
I know.
I don't really enjoy pissing into the wind....but somebody has to.
Can a brother get an AMEN?
I'll never understand how it is so fucking difficult for some people to grasp the importance of posting roll - ESPECIALLY when you are pre-HOF but I can make a case for post hall in the same breath. I have seen plenty of peeps come back after a cave spewing the same bullshit - "I drifted away from the site and....." fill in the blank with your favorite BS excuse.
I had some January dude tell me today after going silent for 5 days of not posting roll (all under 10 days mind you) "Had to quit the site. Still plugging away". I realize we expect SOOOOO fucking much of your time - hell it takes, what, 30 seconds MAX to give me your fucking word? If you aren't near a machine - maybe half that to text it in to a quit brother? Quit the site - LOL - how about quitting the NIC BITCH?
Shit man - now you got me all riled up. I guess it all boils down to the mind of an addict - you either drink the kool aid here and help KTC help you or you don't and you are destined to be an active, using addict for a while longer. I only hope people come to their senses eventually.
I take solace in the fact that when their sorry, non-roll postin' ass comes back a year from now - I'll still be here happy to beat on them for being a pussy with a bigger number after my name. :):)
Sorry to "rant in your parade" but that touches a nerve - especially today.
rkymtnman, I think I said in my HOF speech "You've either got the balls to be a quitter, or you are weak".....or something to that effect.
The big-balled quitters get their asses in here and give their word.....we want to be accountable. The weak-assed pussies do this half-heartedly, and don't put forth the effort and commitment it takes to keep our addicted brains clean.
He quit the site after less than 2 weeks here??? He'll be back to a can a day inside of a week I bet.
Hey brother, you stop by and rant in here any time my friend.
Scott
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I drove up to the deer lease in North Louisiana on Saturday.
I took the training wheels off this weekend. I drove around 7 hours total. I spent several hours in a treestand. I sat around a campfire, enjoying the night.
I didn't have any gum, and I didn't have any sunflower seeds, or anything else for that matter. Only my will, my stones, and my cell phone full of the phone numbers of bad ass quitters.
This was my second weekend deer hunting since I've been quit. I conquered my toughest trigger, yet again. And the best part is, IT GETS EASIER EVERY TIME. Each time you successfully get though a trigger situation, it gets easier.
This freedom is awesome. The journey to get to this place was a rough one, but definitely worth it. Beat the nic bitch back one day at a time, and little by little, it gets easier, and you start enjoying the fruits of your labor. Life is good without the can. I'll never go back to the can.
Scott - Day 170 - I'm quit.
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I drove up to the deer lease in North Louisiana on Saturday.
I took the training wheels off this weekend. I drove around 7 hours total. I spent several hours in a treestand. I sat around a campfire, enjoying the night.
I didn't have any gum, and I didn't have any sunflower seeds, or anything else for that matter. Only my will, my stones, and my cell phone full of the phone numbers of bad ass quitters.
This was my second weekend deer hunting since I've been quit. I conquered my toughest trigger, yet again. And the best part is, IT GETS EASIER EVERY TIME. Each time you successfully get though a trigger situation, it gets easier.
This freedom is awesome. The journey to get to this place was a rough one, but definitely worth it. Beat the nic bitch back one day at a time, and little by little, it gets easier, and you start enjoying the fruits of your labor. Life is good without the can. I'll never go back to the can.
Scott - Day 170 - I'm quit.
Great job Scott!!! 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
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I drove up to the deer lease in North Louisiana on Saturday.Â
I took the training wheels off this weekend. I drove around 7 hours total. I spent several hours in a treestand. I sat around a campfire, enjoying the night.
I didn't have any gum, and I didn't have any sunflower seeds, or anything else for that matter. Only my will, my stones, and my cell phone full of the phone numbers of bad ass quitters.Â
This was my second weekend deer hunting since I've been quit. I conquered my toughest trigger, yet again. And the best part is, IT GETS EASIER EVERY TIME. Each time you successfully get though a trigger situation, it gets easier.
This freedom is awesome. The journey to get to this place was a rough one, but definitely worth it. Beat the nic bitch back one day at a time, and little by little, it gets easier, and you start enjoying the fruits of your labor. Life is good without the can. I'll never go back to the can.
Scott - Day 170 - I'm quit.
Great job Scott!!! 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Sweet !!!!
Thats kick ass , good quit !!
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Had a damn good time this evening. We had a good gang at a friend's house. BBQ, big screen outside with the LSU game on, cold beer, and a warm fire.
We hooked a trailer up to the Mule, threw on a few hay bales, and took the kids around the neighborhood trick or treating.
A couple of my boys were throwing in lippers all night long. I think tonight, for the first time, I actually felt sorry for them. And I was thrilled for myself. I hung out and enjoyed the evening, without having to feed an addiction. I couldn't help but reflect a little bit on myself. That was me, 184 days ago. Life just wasn't lived without a wedge of crap in my lip.
Tonight, I wasn't envious. I wasn't bothered. It was a very reinforcing experience. I am living my life without nicotine. And I am pretty damn pleased about that. Tonight, the nic bitch didn't even bother trying.
Today is Day 183, and I am quit.
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Had a damn good time this evening. We had a good gang at a friend's house. BBQ, big screen outside with the LSU game on, cold beer, and a warm fire.
We hooked a trailer up to the Mule, threw on a few hay bales, and took the kids around the neighborhood trick or treating.
A couple of my boys were throwing in lippers all night long. I think tonight, for the first time, I actually felt sorry for them. And I was thrilled for myself. I hung out and enjoyed the evening, without having to feed an addiction. I couldn't help but reflect a little bit on myself. That was me, 184 days ago. Life just wasn't lived without a wedge of crap in my lip.
Tonight, I wasn't envious. I wasn't bothered. It was a very reinforcing experience. I am living my life without nicotine. And I am pretty damn pleased about that. Tonight, the nic bitch didn't even bother trying.
Today is Day 183, and I am quit.
Great post LAQ...gives us all ancouragement. I'm nowhere near where you are yet, but know that I'm on the same track. One day at a time, and do your best picking off those dippers and get them in here!
kyle1
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At 226 days, my quit is as strong as hell right now. I've got my plan in place, have for a long time now. I am not afraid to use it. I post my promise to you all every day. I need someone to help me wrap my mind around something.
How is it that a man with several hundred days quit caves? At what point does he completely abandon all that he has learned about staying quit? How does he become so overwhelmed with complacency? It blows my damn mind.
It's true that a cave affects all of us. But I refuse to let it weaken my quit. It is certainly scary to know that caves happen so deep into the quit. But I don't let that fact bring me down. I am not doomed to fail as they have. I use these caves as a learning tool. Theirs are quits that I do not want to emulate; they failed. Their caves are huge lessons in how not to quit. I've said it before, and I'm saying it again. Complacency kills quits. Bottom line. I WILL NOT become so complacent. I will not forget to utilize the tools I have been given. I will use my plan if needed.
Now, just to vent. What in the hell is the deal with posting a Day 1, three (3) times in one week? How weak-willed are you? Did you really think it would be easy? Nothing worthwhile ever is. Very cliche', I know. But so true. Quitting is not easy. You've gotta have some fucking balls. You've gotta want it. If you can't manage to stay quit for longer than a day or two, get the fuck out of here. You are weak, and a virus to this community. I can only support a man so much. I can't be much help until he is ready to help himself. You need a plan, ask me, or anyone whose been here any amount of time. Once you have a plan, don't be scared to use it. This site can save you. Let it. But you have to want to save yourself. You've gotta flex nuts, and stay quit. Damn it. Reach out. One day at a time.
LaQuitter - Day 226 - I am one quit motherfucker.
I'm out.
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So I am retiring to the sanctity of my own introduction page to reflect a bit. I might also vent while I'm at it.
At 226 days, my quit is as strong as hell right now. I've got my plan in place, have for a long time now. I am not afraid to use it. I post my promise to you all every day. I need someone to help me wrap my mind around something.
How is it that a man with several hundred days quit caves? At what point does he completely abandon all that he has learned about staying quit? How does he become so overwhelmed with complacency? It blows my damn mind.
It's true that a cave affects all of us. But I refuse to let it weaken my quit. It is certainly scary to know that caves happen so deep into the quit. But I don't let that fact bring me down. I am not doomed to fail as they have. I use these caves as a learning tool. Theirs are quits that I do not want to emulate; they failed. Their caves are huge lessons in how not to quit. I've said it before, and I'm saying it again. Complacency kills quits. Bottom line. I WILL NOT become so complacent. I will not forget to utilize the tools I have been given. I will use my plan if needed.
Now, just to vent. What in the hell is the deal with posting a Day 1, three (3) times in one week? How weak-willed are you? Did you really think it would be easy? Nothing worthwhile ever is. Very cliche', I know. But so true. Quitting is not easy. You've gotta have some fucking balls. You've gotta want it. If you can't manage to stay quit for longer than a day or two, get the fuck out of here. You are weak, and a virus to this community. I can only support a man so much. I can't be much help until he is ready to help himself. You need a plan, ask me, or anyone whose been here any amount of time. Once you have a plan, don't be scared to use it. This site can save you. Let it. But you have to want to save yourself. You've gotta flex nuts, and stay quit. Damn it. Reach out. One day at a time.
LaQuitter - Day 226 - I am one quit motherfucker.
I'm out.
the thing we gotta keep first and foremost in our minds tis that WE ARE ADDICTS.
If it was Booze or Cocaine OR heroin...it would seem like it would be easier to identify with that title,,, but pussy nictoine.WTF? Its the same believe it or not and it'll make you just as dead as anything else if you abuse it the way we did...I am a two-fold addict, Alcohol and dip....I've got a lot of days behind me in the alcohol group, but i am no less an addict... and I know after physically watching someone quit alcohol and then resume after years of being quit.. they are far worse off when they start again' like they are making up for lost time...It's fucking Suicide! I am lucky...and that's all...I am quit for today and at some point I'll look back and say I am quit for X amount of years, but then I'll remind myself that I am quit for only today..
LAQ . You ARE a BADASS quitter and I am Quit with you
BAnner
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So I am retiring to the sanctity of my own introduction page to reflect a bit. I might also vent while I'm at it.
At 226 days, my quit is as strong as hell right now. I've got my plan in place, have for a long time now. I am not afraid to use it. I post my promise to you all every day. I need someone to help me wrap my mind around something.
How is it that a man with several hundred days quit caves? At what point does he completely abandon all that he has learned about staying quit? How does he become so overwhelmed with complacency? It blows my damn mind.
It's true that a cave affects all of us. But I refuse to let it weaken my quit. It is certainly scary to know that caves happen so deep into the quit. But I don't let that fact bring me down. I am not doomed to fail as they have. I use these caves as a learning tool. Theirs are quits that I do not want to emulate; they failed. Their caves are huge lessons in how not to quit. I've said it before, and I'm saying it again. Complacency kills quits. Bottom line. I WILL NOT become so complacent. I will not forget to utilize the tools I have been given. I will use my plan if needed.
Now, just to vent. What in the hell is the deal with posting a Day 1, three (3) times in one week? How weak-willed are you? Did you really think it would be easy? Nothing worthwhile ever is. Very cliche', I know. But so true. Quitting is not easy. You've gotta have some fucking balls. You've gotta want it. If you can't manage to stay quit for longer than a day or two, get the fuck out of here. You are weak, and a virus to this community. I can only support a man so much. I can't be much help until he is ready to help himself. You need a plan, ask me, or anyone whose been here any amount of time. Once you have a plan, don't be scared to use it. This site can save you. Let it. But you have to want to save yourself. You've gotta flex nuts, and stay quit. Damn it. Reach out. One day at a time.
LaQuitter - Day 226 - I am one quit motherfucker.
I'm out.
..."How is it that a man with several hundred days quit caves? At what point does he completely abandon all that he has learned about staying quit?"...
not a man.............
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Goal = $1000
$210 to go.
Everyone:
The August 2008 BAMFERs started a tradition, of sorts. August 2009 was asked to keep it alive. And we have done a hell of a job. Many quitters from various quit groups have donated. But there is still a bit of work to be done.
We have raised $790.00 for the benefit of QSX/KTC. Our goal is $1,000.00.
I know times are tough this year (I was unemployed for a month earlier this year), and it's Christmas time. I know we have all given to one charity or another over the years.
Make QSX/KTC one of your charitable donations this year. This place runs on DONATIONS SUCH AS THIS. Admins/Mods are not paid.
Personally, I credit this web site, and the support that it channeled, with saving my life. And to think of the money I pissed away on killing myself slowly......$25.00 is a small price to pay to show your appreciation and support for this organization. It has helped save us, and it will no doubt save many others as well.
Just click the link in my signature to be taken to the KTC Donations page. It's PayPal, quick and easy.
If you are wondering how this all started, check out the story below, as told by Monroe from the August 2008 quit group.
Thanks to all who have supported our fundraiser, it is much appreciated.
Think about it. Merry Christmas, everyone.
Scott, aka LaQuitter
August 2009 - I'd like to challenge you to a fundraiser. Being that I also hit my HOF in August (BAMFer 2008), I'd like to challenge the 2009 August quit group to take up our torch, then pass it on to the next year.
Last year August 2008 and friends raised enough money through donations to operate KTC for a year. We all know that the Admins and Mods are unpaid. This website and community that we all love runs on donations and sales of merchandise. It's not in danger of folding and they have no financial problems that I know about, but why should those that volunteer their time to run it and help us ever have to worry about it? They should never have to dip into their own personal funds to operate this site. Additional money for banner ads and site optimization will help more soon-to-be quitters find us. Additional funds help assure that KTC is around for future quitters. At some point they could form an official not-for-profit and do even more. The opportunities are unlimited.
You'll never be asked for money on this site by anyone associated with it. That's one of the great things about this community. I'm a member here, just like you. They haven't asked me to have these fundraisers and I trust them with the money raised to use it for the betterment of KTC. We have all benefited, and I'm asking you to give back a little. KTC saved my life. My brothers here saved my life. It has saved your's too. Many hands make light work.
August 2008 had a goal of $500. That's the number I was given last year as the cost to run the site annually. August 2009 is a big group (just like 2008 was) and it wouldn't surprise me to see your group blow away what we did last year. I think $1000 by the end of the year is a very obtainable goal for August 2009. If you accept the challenge and promise to pay it forward next year, I'll start you off with a $100 donation. Just let me know if you're up to the challenge.
Your brother in quit,
-Monroe
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Goal = $1000
$210 to go.
Everyone:
The August 2008 BAMFERs started a tradition, of sorts. August 2009 was asked to keep it alive. And we have done a hell of a job. Many quitters from various quit groups have donated. But there is still a bit of work to be done.
We have raised $790.00 for the benefit of QSX/KTC. Our goal is $1,000.00.
I know times are tough this year (I was unemployed for a month earlier this year), and it's Christmas time. I know we have all given to one charity or another over the years.
Make QSX/KTC one of your charitable donations this year. This place runs on DONATIONS SUCH AS THIS. Admins/Mods are not paid.
Personally, I credit this web site, and the support that it channeled, with saving my life. And to think of the money I pissed away on killing myself slowly......$25.00 is a small price to pay to show your appreciation and support for this organization. It has helped save us, and it will no doubt save many others as well.
Just click the link in my signature to be taken to the KTC Donations page. It's PayPal, quick and easy.
If you are wondering how this all started, check out the story below, as told by Monroe from the August 2008 quit group.
Thanks to all who have supported our fundraiser, it is much appreciated.
Think about it. Merry Christmas, everyone.
Scott, aka LaQuitter
August 2009 - I'd like to challenge you to a fundraiser. Being that I also hit my HOF in August (BAMFer 2008), I'd like to challenge the 2009 August quit group to take up our torch, then pass it on to the next year.
Last year August 2008 and friends raised enough money through donations to operate KTC for a year. We all know that the Admins and Mods are unpaid. This website and community that we all love runs on donations and sales of merchandise. It's not in danger of folding and they have no financial problems that I know about, but why should those that volunteer their time to run it and help us ever have to worry about it? They should never have to dip into their own personal funds to operate this site. Additional money for banner ads and site optimization will help more soon-to-be quitters find us. Additional funds help assure that KTC is around for future quitters. At some point they could form an official not-for-profit and do even more. The opportunities are unlimited.
You'll never be asked for money on this site by anyone associated with it. That's one of the great things about this community. I'm a member here, just like you. They haven't asked me to have these fundraisers and I trust them with the money raised to use it for the betterment of KTC. We have all benefited, and I'm asking you to give back a little. KTC saved my life. My brothers here saved my life. It has saved your's too. Many hands make light work.
August 2008 had a goal of $500. That's the number I was given last year as the cost to run the site annually. August 2009 is a big group (just like 2008 was) and it wouldn't surprise me to see your group blow away what we did last year. I think $1000 by the end of the year is a very obtainable goal for August 2009. If you accept the challenge and promise to pay it forward next year, I'll start you off with a $100 donation. Just let me know if you're up to the challenge.
Your brother in quit,
-Monroe
Update:
Goal = $1000
$110 to go.
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Update:
Goal = $1000
$0.00 to go.
It is finished. Our fundraiser has raised $1,000.00 for QSX/KTC. Nogreenbear pushed us to our goal today....thanks, brother!
Huge props, in no particular order: Monroe, Glenn, Russ, CDForecheck, Samcat, LarryMc, 65fl, Redyota, Skoal Monster, NKT, dkp, Kodiak Killer, Nogreenbear.....If I missed you, please accept my sincerest apologies. PM me and I will give credit where it's due!
QSX/KTC, we appreciate what is being done here. This was a worthwhile cause. Chewie, and the rest of the Admins, thank you for all you have done to provide this place of support for us. I want this place to be around for a long time, helping nic junkies quit this deady addiction.
I'm kind of speechless at this point. I'm damn proud of us. Thanks again.
Scott ------LaQuitter
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Update:
Goal = $1000
$0.00 to go.
It is finished. Our fundraiser has raised $1,000.00 for QSX/KTC. Nogreenbear pushed us to our goal today....thanks, brother!
Huge props, in no particular order: Monroe, Glenn, Russ, CDForecheck, Samcat, LarryMc, 65fl, Redyota, Skoal Monster, NKT, dkp, Kodiak Killer, Nogreenbear.....If I missed you, please accept my sincerest apologies. PM me and I will give credit where it's due!
QSX/KTC, we appreciate what is being done here. This was a worthwhile cause. Chewie, and the rest of the Admins, thank you for all you have done to provide this place of support for us. I want this place to be around for a long time, helping nic junkies quit this deady addiction.
I'm kind of speechless at this point. I'm damn proud of us. Thanks again.
Scott ------LaQuitter
I am humbled.
I see many people doing extraordinary things on this site. This is a fine example.
You make me proud to be associated with such fine quitters.
THANK YOU!
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Update:
Goal = $1000
$0.00 to go.
It is finished. Our fundraiser has raised $1,000.00 for QSX/KTC. Nogreenbear pushed us to our goal today....thanks, brother!
Huge props, in no particular order: Monroe, Glenn, Russ, CDForecheck, Samcat, LarryMc, 65fl, Redyota, Skoal Monster, NKT, dkp, Kodiak Killer, Nogreenbear.....If I missed you, please accept my sincerest apologies. PM me and I will give credit where it's due!
QSX/KTC, we appreciate what is being done here. This was a worthwhile cause. Chewie, and the rest of the Admins, thank you for all you have done to provide this place of support for us. I want this place to be around for a long time, helping nic junkies quit this deady addiction.Â
I'm kind of speechless at this point. I'm damn proud of us. Thanks again.
Scott ------LaQuitter
I am humbled.
I see many people doing extraordinary things on this site. This is a fine example.
You make me proud to be associated with such fine quitters.
THANK YOU!
LaQ, you also deserve a big Thank You for heading up this effort. It's folks like you that make this site work. 'clap'
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So I go by my parents today for a quick visit.
My dad is outside, smoking a damn cigar. He had been completely nicotine free for the last 20 years or so. And today he is smoking a cigar.
I didn't even ask if he had also started smoking cigarettes again.
He was always first and foremost, a cigarette smoker. Part-time dipper/chewer, and cigar/pipe smoker.
What....the....hell?? I am very disappointed, to say the least. He gave me my first dip, a long time ago....shit, this isn't even worth getting into.
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Alright, I need your help, quitters.
I got a new phone today, and apparently not all of my numbers were saved to the SIM card. It appears that I have lost every phone number I had from KTC.
Please PM me with your phone numbers, if you knew I had it. Dave, Justin, Glenn, Bobby, Cliff, Mark, kd4jet.....anyone!!
I am about to go back and check my PM's, but I think I have deleted a lot of those older PM's that would have most of my numbers.
Thanks guys.
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This is the start of some chatter in my quit group, August 2009. I decided to post it here in my intro, for exposure. I'm interested in any and all opinions on the topic. Feel free to engage.
Scott
nogreenbear - 265 - 2 times this week I "forgot" to post roll and I'm growing slightly more comfortable with that. I think to drift away from the site entirely would be a huge mistake. So between daily post and never post again where does one draw the line? Oh wise vets of quit months previous what say you? Instead of "whatever works for you", I'd be more interested in your experience. Of course if you are a vet posting here you are more than likely the type that posts daily... o.k. I'm rambling... fellow WeSOT brothers - looking for your input as well.
Brian, I would be lying if I told you that I wasn't sick of this web site. Since probably October, I have been weary. I am not tired of you guys, or the supportive vets.
There are a few quitters that are here that I question their motives and methods. I'm kind of sick of them. It gets old watching the cavers. Newbie and veterans alike. The Newb caver sickens me because of their weakness. The veteran caver sickens me because they damn well know what it takes, but they get complacent, and don't use their tools. Lastly, I am sick of my dependance (on posting). I am sick of the fact that growing comfortable and leaving the accountability of this site might mean a cave. The fear of what complacency at this stage could lead to.
I'm just like you, Brian, and Justin, and Marty, and Bobby. I could easily go days and not post roll. Yet, I wake up every morning and do it. I think it would take more of a conscious effort NOT TO at this point.....it has long been second nature, regardless of my distaste of late.
Justin and I, at some point not long after the HOF if I recall, made a commitment to each other to make every effort to post roll every day, until 365 days. We didn't really verbally contemplate what we would do thereafter. I think we would both like to still post roll regularly, but not necessarily daily. I can't speak for Justin. And honestly, I can't speak for me at this point.
All I do know, is this: accountability to you guys has kept me quit for 275 days so far. I feel that even after 365 days, I will still be a strong presence with WeSOT, and with KTC. I WILL NOT GIVE UP THIS QUIT. If after one year, I feel that posting daily is necessary, I will do it. If I think posting 4 days/week will keep me quit, maybe I will try it. I have no idea. I think I will be posting daily, even after 365 days. If that is what I think it takes to keep myself quit, then that is what I will do.
It's a periodic evaluation process that will begin for me at one year. Hey Bytor, thanks for your insight. Like Brian, I wouldn't mind hearing from the rest of you guys that post with us.
Don't know if any of this helps, Brian, but it's my thoughts at this point.
Scott
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nogreenbear - 265 - 2 times this week I "forgot" to post roll and I'm growing slightly more comfortable with that. I think to drift away from the site entirely would be a huge mistake. So between daily post and never post again where does one draw the line? Oh wise vets of quit months previous what say you? Instead of "whatever works for you", I'd be more interested in your experience. Of course if you are a vet posting here you are more than likely the type that posts daily... o.k. I'm rambling... fellow WeSOT brothers - looking for your input as well.
I have had multiple periods in my quit where I felt the need to leave this site for various reasons - mainly because I felt dependent on the drama, and there were a few caves that really pissed me off. While I did go for nearly a month in each instance without posting, I would still occasionally pop in to read a HOF speech or an intro section. I even changed my password and reset information to ensure I wouldn't log on to the site. Obviously, I didn't stay away for good and a vet reset my password when I was ready.
I do feel like that time off gave me a bit of perspective on the role this site would play in my daily life. I no longer feel dependent on drama - though it is fun to call people a cocknoodler from time to time. Although I still support people, I no longer feel that my quit is dependent on anyone else's quit. There were a few strong August 08 quitters who caved recently and that scared the hell out of me, but I used that to help cement the importance of posting roll first thing every day.
So, my advice would be to take some time off for now if you really feel like that's what's best for you. However, don't allow yourself to "forget" to post roll. Make a conscious choice to not post roll but find some way to remind yourself of your addiction and to hold yourself accountable. Do not forget your addiction or grow comfortable with your life as an ex-tobacco user. I've made that mistake in the past and "just one" became a reality on a whim. Although not advisable, it's tolerable to move away from the site, but not to move away from the mindset that got you through the last 265 days.
When you feel that slipping away, you need to come back.
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Today is Day 300. For any newbs that are reading this....I tend to come here to vent and reflect every so often. There are a couple of things this week that have gotten my attention. So, I feel the need to write.
The April 2010 quit group has had the unfortunate displeasure of dealing with a stubborn troll this week. I've said all I really care to to this guy. And after redtrain's post this morning, there is really nothing more to be said. I wonder if the troll would have the stones to sit down with redtrain's cousin, and look him in the eyes, and tell him "if a few cigars a year kills me, then so be it. At least I will have enjoyed it." That statement is truly unbelievable to me. For the first time in about 18 years, I am understanding this addiction better. I don't know about you, but I'm willing to sacrifice that "enjoyment" of a dip during all of those "triggers" in which we thought our lip turds were so blissful. I've got other things going on that I want to be around to enjoy, namely my family. And I happen to be fond of my face. I mean really, I wonder if this troll would seriously think it was "enjoyable" if he ever has to face a cancer diagnosis? It does get old dealing with an addict in denial. But there is something to be learned from the discussions. Pay attention, and use those moments to strengthen your quits.
And the June 2010 group. A vet returns; a man quit nearly 3 years. His story is practically a blueprint of how nearly all caves happen, especially among veteran quitters. He stops posting roll, completely neglects to use the tools available to him, neglects to initiate his cave plan....in other words, he grew complacent. A cave by a long-time vet is very impactful to EVERY quit here. We all want like hell for the addiction to just go away. There is no way to sugarcoat this. Depending upon how committed you are to staying quit, your involvement at KTC might be a long-term deal. Not a big deal to me. It's better than the alternative. This IS MY QUIT. I will NEVER go through nicotine withdrawal again. And if that means coming here every day to post roll, then so be it. So yes, a cave by a 3 year veteran is impactful.....but it doesn't have to impact you negatively. You have control over how caves impact your quits. Don't let his failure bring you down. Don't think that just because he couldn't stay quit, you are doomed to fail as well. Knowledge is power. Take CJS's cave and LEARN FROM IT. Understand why he failed, and commit yourself to not making the same mistakes. The power is yours to be had - own your quits. A simple formula: LEARNING + APPLICATION OF KNOWLEDGE = SUCCESS. Use his failure to strengthen your quits.
I've made it no secret that at one year quit, I was going to evaluate whether or not I needed to continue posting roll every day. I've watched it happen too many times in my 300 days here. I refuse to be complacent. My quit is too important to me. If you don't already, you'd better learn to like me. I'm not going anywhere.
Take every opportunity to strengthen your quit. Don't allow the negativity, misinformation, stupidity, or complacency of others to impact you in a negative way. I have at times, but I've overcome it. It hasn't been until today, that I truly understand what has to be done. I refuse to allow my foundation to be rocked. I freaking own my quit, and I'm making it stronger every day.
Thanks to all that have stopped by to congratulate me on 300 days. I could not have done it without all of you.
Scott - Day 300
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Thanks for posting your thoughts, I have been following the 2 conversations you are referring to and was wondering what insights were drawn from experienced quitters.
The troll's conversation helped me because I can see the denial and justification of his addiction. People will argue for their limitations.
Captain's story actually scared the crap out of me. I thought to myself; Shit are we ever free from this? Apparently not.... The roots run deep.
As a fledgling quitter, I am beginning to realize that the support of this site is a looooong term investment, and I'm ok with that.
Thanks
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Nice post Scott, thanks for putting that in writing.
Congrats on 300 days!
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Congrats on the 3-0-0. That is Huge.
"I don't know about you, but I'm willing to sacrifice that "enjoyment" of a dip during all of those "triggers" in which we thought our lip turds were so blissful. I've got other things going on that I want to be around to enjoy, namely my family".
I know I will enjoy many more things and the extra days I will have to enjoy them. I already do.
"He stops posting roll, completely neglects to use the tools available to him, neglects to initiate his cave plan....in other words, he grew complacent".
Never drop your guard. You turn you back on the enemy and you lose.
"We all want like hell for the addiction to just go away. I will NEVER go through nicotine withdrawal again. And if that means coming here every day to post roll, then so be it".
Neither will I, and as long as my brothers know that hopefully the will follow suit. I will be here with you.
"Take CJS's cave and LEARN FROM IT. Understand why he failed, and commit yourself to not making the same mistakes. The power is yours to be had - own your quits. A simple formula: LEARNING + APPLICATION OF KNOWLEDGE = SUCCESS. Use his failure to strengthen your quits".
Lesson Learned. How can anyone see what works and think they are better than that. Sometimes there is not a better mousetrap.
"My quit is too important to me. Take every opportunity to strengthen your quit".
Strenght lies in everyone of us. Together stronger still.
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Some food for thought, especially for the relatively new quitters and cavers:
Just because you hit the hall, or one year, or 3 years, whatever the "magic number" in your head is.....this battle you are fighting is here to stay. We are addicts. Quitting gets a whole lot easier with every day that you put between yourself and nicotine. But you will have occasional moments of struggle with your addiction.
Now, don't go losing your steam because of what I just said. Here is the light at the end of the tunnel.
KTC has a wealth of knowledge to be gained by those who seek it. KTC is a support and accountability network like no other, that will help you get quit, and stay quit.....if you allow it to. The tools are all here, right in front of you. You have to be smart enough to use them. Go ahead and swallow your pride; you are an addict. And get over the fact that a bunch of people on the internet want to help you. It's wise to develop bonds and friendships here. Ask fellow quitters for their phone number, you will get it, especially from the vets. A text or a phone call has saved many quits. The brotherhood and all that it stands for is why this place works. But you have to be willing to do the hard work and earn this. Trust me, the freedom you will have is worth it.
Post roll every day, giving your word, and keep your word at all costs.
What are you going to do to ensure that you keep your word?? Do you have a plan to get you through the tough craves?
Read everything you can. The Welcome section, the Introduction section, Words of Wisdom, the HOF speeches. Formulate a plan from the information available to.
Hints for your quit plan: post roll every day, stay active on the site, post what you are going through (its therapeutic), exchange phone numbers with others, make a few friends and watch each other's backs, print and carry the Contract, ask for permission from your wife, children, mother, father, and every quitter on this board before you even think about caving. Take a look in the mirror every morning, and vow to not be a weak-assed loser whose word is meaningless, but instead a strong man of honor, integrity, and trustworthiness.
Remember, we do not try to quit here. We do quit - we are quit. Drop "try", "think", "hope", and "maybe" from your vocabulary.
Who are you? What are you? You cavers and new quitters need to figure it out quick. It's not easy, but it truly is simple.
Let me know if I can do anything to help. Reach out to any of us, and we will help.
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Some food for thought, especially for the relatively new quitters and cavers:
Just because you hit the hall, or one year, or 3 years, whatever the "magic number" in your head is.....this battle you are fighting is here to stay. We are addicts. Quitting gets a whole lot easier with every day that you put between yourself and nicotine. But you will have occasional moments of struggle with your addiction.
Now, don't go losing your steam because of what I just said. Here is the light at the end of the tunnel.
KTC has a wealth of knowledge to be gained by those who seek it. KTC is a support and accountability network like no other, that will help you get quit, and stay quit.....if you allow it to. The tools are all here, right in front of you. You have to be smart enough to use them. Go ahead and swallow your pride; you are an addict. And get over the fact that a bunch of people on the internet want to help you. It's wise to develop bonds and friendships here. Ask fellow quitters for their phone number, you will get it, especially from the vets. A text or a phone call has saved many quits. The brotherhood and all that it stands for is why this place works. But you have to be willing to do the hard work and earn this. Trust me, the freedom you will have is worth it.
Post roll every day, giving your word, and keep your word at all costs.
What are you going to do to ensure that you keep your word?? Do you have a plan to get you through the tough craves?
Read everything you can. The Welcome section, the Introduction section, Words of Wisdom, the HOF speeches. Formulate a plan from the information available to.
Hints for your quit plan: post roll every day, stay active on the site, post what you are going through (its therapeutic), exchange phone numbers with others, make a few friends and watch each other's backs, print and carry the Contract, ask for permission from your wife, children, mother, father, and every quitter on this board before you even think about caving. Take a look in the mirror every morning, and vow to not be a weak-assed loser whose word is meaningless, but instead a strong man of honor, integrity, and trustworthiness.
Remember, we do not try to quit here. We do quit - we are quit. Drop "try", "think", "hope", and "maybe" from your vocabulary.
Who are you? What are you? You cavers and new quitters need to figure it out quick. It's not easy, but it truly is simple.
Let me know if I can do anything to help. Reach out to any of us, and we will help.
Well put Scott! This place gives me the power to pull through tough times. I always know I can turn here for help if needed.
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Day 443
The quit is flowing quite well right about now. I do have something I've been pondering for about 3 weeks now.
My allergies have given me hell this spring and summer. For the last 3 weeks or so, I have had this nagging sore throat. The type of thing that worries a (ex)dipper.
Don't you remember? How many years did you dip? I dipped for 17-18 years, a can per day...longer if you add in the time in my early teen years when it was just an occasional thing. I remember how I was for the last 10 or so years that I dipped. Every sore in my mouth, every sore throat. I WORRIED about cancer. I would sweat it until I either saw the doctor, or it healed.
I thought that after I quit, the worry would go away. It has, for the most part. I don't think about cancer as often as I did when I dipped. But I'm here to tell you, that after 443 days, you will probably still have the worries on occasion, and that my quit brothers, sucks. Oh, you thought that you were out of the woods just because you quit?? Yes, you are much better off. But I think it will take 15 years or so before your oral cancer risk gets back down into the range of someone who has never dipped. It's just been something I've been dealing with for the last couple of weeks, and thought it might be good to share with you guys. It's a reminder for me, 443 days later, that this addiction and the potential damage that it could of caused will haunt me, probably for years to come.
This past week, the sore throat completely cleared up for about 3 days, only to return. But at least I have peace of mind now, knowing that it was just an allergy-induced symptom.
Don't ever forget why you quit. Don't ever forget what you are learning, or have learned here at KTC. Complacency and addiction are thick as thieves. If you get lazy and sloppy, the addiction may find the weak spots in your armor. Take care of your armor.
La
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Day 443
The quit is flowing quite well right about now. I do have something I've been pondering for about 3 weeks now.
My allergies have given me hell this spring and summer. For the last 3 weeks or so, I have had this nagging sore throat. The type of thing that worries a (ex)dipper.
Don't you remember? How many years did you dip? I dipped for 17-18 years, a can per day...longer if you add in the time in my early teen years when it was just an occasional thing. I remember how I was for the last 10 or so years that I dipped. Every sore in my mouth, every sore throat. I WORRIED about cancer. I would sweat it until I either saw the doctor, or it healed.
I thought that after I quit, the worry would go away. It has, for the most part. I don't think about cancer as often as I did when I dipped. But I'm here to tell you, that after 443 days, you will probably still have the worries on occasion, and that my quit brothers, sucks. Oh, you thought that you were out of the woods just because you quit?? Yes, you are much better off. But I think it will take 15 years or so before your oral cancer risk gets back down into the range of someone who has never dipped. It's just been something I've been dealing with for the last couple of weeks, and thought it might be good to share with you guys. It's a reminder for me, 443 days later, that this addiction and the potential damage that it could of caused will haunt me, probably for years to come.
This past week, the sore throat completely cleared up for about 3 days, only to return. But at least I have peace of mind now, knowing that it was just an allergy-induced symptom.
Don't ever forget why you quit. Don't ever forget what you are learning, or have learned here at KTC. Complacency and addiction are thick as thieves. If you get lazy and sloppy, the addiction may find the weak spots in your armor. Take care of your armor.
La
Great post...sometimes I think we all "forget" about that fear of C. Not that we need to always be afraid, but I think you are right in reminding us that what we were doing to ourselves was a very slow game of Russian Roulette...and even after we think the chambers are empty, there could still be that live round....waiting for us to simply pull the trigger...
Stay focued...and still get your check-ups, especially if you have symptoms that concern you...better to catch anything as soon as possible than wait days, months, years because of fear...the longer you wait, the harder it is to fix...
Thanks LA for posting this for us all to ponder...and to help keep us quit and healthy.
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Today is day 500 of my quit.
The quit is quite smooth right now. Nothing much in the way of craves lately. Every day that we put between Day 1 and today makes us a little stronger. It does get easier if you stay committed.
I want to say thank you. The last time I was nicotine free for this long, I was a young teenager.....maybe even a pre-teen. This web site is an amazing tool.
There is something I'd like to share with you all. My job has taken me on the road for the last few weeks. Saturday before last, I drove up to Kansas, and spent an afternoon with one of my August 2009 quit brothers, Marty (livin is his AKA).
A lot of you guys already know this because you have done it. But I am here to tell you that if you ever have the opportunity to get together with other quitter(s), do it.
The accountability here is what the success of our quits are built upon. You will add an unprecedented layer of accountability to your quit if you were to ever meet a quit brother.
It didn't take long, and I felt like I had known Marty for years. Honor, integrity, trustworthiness. Three qualities that I personally believe are at the heart of every strong, successful quitter. These qualities are required for the accountability to work. I could not imagine breaking my word to a quit brother after shaking his hand. And I am sure that Marty would agree.
I appreciate your hospitality Marty. You, and every quitter here has my word. I will remain nicotine free today, and I will be here to make that same promise tomorrow.
Scott
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CONGRATULATIONS ON 500 WELL DONE!
MOA 'worship'
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Scott,
Congrats on the 500 my friend. You certainly helped me early in my quit. Keep rocking along and stay clean...
NEVER AGAIN
Greg
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Congrats on the 500 Scott! Nice to see you posting some inspirational words again.
And may I add........Geaux Tigers!
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X
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5 hundo, huh? Call me when you get to 90, big nutz. Oh wait a second...whose nuts...I mean, hold on...ah shit...
Congrats, LaQuitter (is that German?)
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5 hundo, huh? Call me when you get to 90, big nutz. Oh wait a second...whose nuts...I mean, hold on...ah shit...
Congrats, LaQuitter (is that German?)
Thanks Beano. Uh, no. LaQuitter is German, like Bean is Mexican.
I'll just leave you guessing. ;)
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I had the opportunity to meet Outdoortexan and his family last night. It was certainly a pleasure.
Curtis has meant a lot to my quit. In fact, he is the sole reason that I found my way to KillTheCan.
If you don't know who ODT is, take the time to find out. Go find his HOF speech. Go to his web site, and see what he is about.
Should you ever have the opportunity to meet a fellow quitter, you need to do it. I've said this before. There is nothing quite like shaking the hand of another quitter to reinforce your accountability and all that it stands for.
+1.
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These are the only written rules of this community, to the best of my knowledge:
1) IP masking is immediate grounds for expulsion. Administrators can track IP address and if they change from one side of the country to the other...you are gone...period.
2) Multiple aliases will not be tolerated. Violators will be banned immediately
3) Administrators can and will ban domain names and IP addresses used for spam.
4) The QSX Forums are for quitters age 18 and above.
There are several other "rules" that the hardcore quitters follow. One of the most important being the posting of roll. Early in the day. Every day.
If you post roll early, every day, and keep your word, your will be a successful quitter. Make excuses and defend the "right" to buck the system here, and you will fail. There are a few exceptions to this, such as someone's work schedule. But for most, the posting of roll should be very high on the morning priority list.
Understand that probaby 60-70% of your quit group will fail to make HOF. Then, you can probably reduce your HOF numbers by half by the time you hit 200 days.
For all of the whining, bitching and posturing that goes on, the fact is that only a select few quitters are going to succeed.
It's not very hard to see who the failures will be. The weak ones that will be cut from the herd. Are you the loner? Are you the asshole that thinks they know better, a proud and haughty kind of person that doesn't know how to listen and learn? Which quitter are you? Are you one of the few that will succeed, or are you stumbling around, clueless.....begging to fall prey to the fate that lurks in the shadows of your addicted mind?
Despite the best well-intentioned efforts of your brothers/sisters, only YOU can save yourself. But saving yourself is easier when you are not alone, and when you arm yourself with knowledge. Align your quit accordingly.
And for those of you that are trying to save every quitter in the group. Your efforts are admirable, and necessary for the group to an extent, and probably even yourself. But you must protect your quit, first and foremost. Don't let the wanna-be's and half-assers get you down. Help those that want the help. At some point, you will have to write off the posers. You cannot save everyone.
I'm starting to ramble, so I'm done for now.
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I just posted this in my group. Just an update for those of you that knew about it.
And an illustration that a stressful situation can be handled without tobacco. I've been on pins and needles for 8 days wondering if I had choroidal melanoma.
Today makes 845 days of no bullshit badass.
"Scott - 845 - saw the doc today, the freckle in my eye is just that. Nothing indicates melanoma. He did an ultrasound to measure it and he photographed it. I go back in 6 months so he can make sure it's not growing. If all is well, it will just be a yearly checkup to keep an eye on it. Damn fine day to be quit. And another instance in which i dealt with stress without the nicotine crutch!"
No excuses, ever.
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Great news. Good day to be quit indeed.
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Great news !! It is indeed a fine day to be quit.
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LA,
Great news on the freckle. Also, congrats on a great quit today and for the past 845!! Incredible.
I just read your HOF speech. Thank you. It was so inspiring.
I'm glad to quit with you today.
whsii
Day 13
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These are the only written rules of this community, to the best of my knowledge:
1) IP masking is immediate grounds for expulsion. Administrators can track IP address and if they change from one side of the country to the other...you are gone...period.
2) Multiple aliases will not be tolerated. Violators will be banned immediately
3) Administrators can and will ban domain names and IP addresses used for spam.
4) The QSX Forums are for quitters age 18 and above.
There are several other "rules" that the hardcore quitters follow. One of the most important being the posting of roll. Early in the day. Every day.
If you post roll early, every day, and keep your word, your will be a successful quitter. Make excuses and defend the "right" to buck the system here, and you will fail. There are a few exceptions to this, such as someone's work schedule. But for most, the posting of roll should be very high on the morning priority list.
Understand that probaby 60-70% of your quit group will fail to make HOF. Then, you can probably reduce your HOF numbers by half by the time you hit 200 days.
For all of the whining, bitching and posturing that goes on, the fact is that only a select few quitters are going to succeed.
It's not very hard to see who the failures will be. The weak ones that will be cut from the herd. Are you the loner? Are you the asshole that thinks they know better, a proud and haughty kind of person that doesn't know how to listen and learn? Which quitter are you? Are you one of the few that will succeed, or are you stumbling around, clueless.....begging to fall prey to the fate that lurks in the shadows of your addicted mind?
Despite the best well-intentioned efforts of your brothers/sisters, only YOU can save yourself. But saving yourself is easier when you are not alone, and when you arm yourself with knowledge. Align your quit accordingly.
And for those of you that are trying to save every quitter in the group. Your efforts are admirable, and necessary for the group to an extent, and probably even yourself. But you must protect your quit, first and foremost. Don't let the wanna-be's and half-assers get you down. Help those that want the help. At some point, you will have to write off the posers. You cannot save everyone.
I'm starting to ramble, so I'm done for now.
Well said. Glad to here about the results.
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Day 2,230. I'm feeling the need to spend more time around here. shocker
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I just posted this in my quit group, August 2009. It's been my habit over the years to sometimes also post my ramblings to my Intro page, as it's always been my hope that exposing my life of the "quit struggle" may help some newer quitter that stumbles in here and reads it........
So in the last 3-4 years I've been through some personal problems, I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in July of 2013, my dad passed away in March after 2 months in ICU on a vent (and my mother is mentally unstable), and I dislocated my left shoulder 2 weeks ago. The shit never seems to end. Always some challenge to deal with.
No problem, it's life. I'm just venting. Better days are ahead. Sometimes you just get sick and tired, and need to talk. It's a shame that August 09 is void of the core brotherhood that I had learned to lean on back in the day (no offense to you Syndrome or JMag). I've spent a lot of time on here today, deep in the archives of my quit......it's been therapeutic. 'Crazy'
Stay strong quitters.
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I just posted this in my quit group, August 2009. It's been my habit over the years to sometimes also post my ramblings to my Intro page, as it's always been my hope that exposing my life of the "quit struggle" may help some newer quitter that stumbles in here and reads it........
So in the last 3-4 years I've been through some personal problems, I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in July of 2013, my dad passed away in March after 2 months in ICU on a vent (and my mother is mentally unstable), and I dislocated my left shoulder 2 weeks ago. The shit never seems to end. Always some challenge to deal with.
No problem, it's life. I'm just venting. Better days are ahead. Sometimes you just get sick and tired, and need to talk. It's a shame that August 09 is void of the core brotherhood that I had learned to lean on back in the day (no offense to you Syndrome or JMag). I've spent a lot of time on here today, deep in the archives of my quit......it's been therapeutic. 'Crazy'
Stay strong quitters.
What's up, Scott? I'm sorry to hear about your dad, and your diagnosis.
The good news is that I will always be here with a raging hard-on for our collective quit. ;)
Or is that even good news?
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I just posted this in my quit group, August 2009. It's been my habit over the years to sometimes also post my ramblings to my Intro page, as it's always been my hope that exposing my life of the "quit struggle" may help some newer quitter that stumbles in here and reads it........
So in the last 3-4 years I've been through some personal problems, I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in July of 2013, my dad passed away in March after 2 months in ICU on a vent (and my mother is mentally unstable), and I dislocated my left shoulder 2 weeks ago. The shit never seems to end. Always some challenge to deal with.
No problem, it's life. I'm just venting. Better days are ahead. Sometimes you just get sick and tired, and need to talk. It's a shame that August 09 is void of the core brotherhood that I had learned to lean on back in the day (no offense to you Syndrome or JMag). I've spent a lot of time on here today, deep in the archives of my quit......it's been therapeutic. 'Crazy'
Stay strong quitters.
What's up, Scott? I'm sorry to hear about your dad, and your diagnosis.
The good news is that I will always be here with a raging hard-on for our collective quit. ;)
Or is that even good news?
Hey Dean, how the hell are you brother?!
It's good to hear from a "familiar voice", so to speak. No freaking idea what going on with me right now. I'm just working through some shit I guess, and while doing so, felt the need to re-visit this place.
I would expect nothing less than a raging hard-on from you. 'drool'
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I just posted this in my quit group, August 2009. It's been my habit over the years to sometimes also post my ramblings to my Intro page, as it's always been my hope that exposing my life of the "quit struggle" may help some newer quitter that stumbles in here and reads it........
So in the last 3-4 years I've been through some personal problems, I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in July of 2013, my dad passed away in March after 2 months in ICU on a vent (and my mother is mentally unstable), and I dislocated my left shoulder 2 weeks ago. The shit never seems to end. Always some challenge to deal with.
No problem, it's life. I'm just venting. Better days are ahead. Sometimes you just get sick and tired, and need to talk. It's a shame that August 09 is void of the core brotherhood that I had learned to lean on back in the day (no offense to you Syndrome or JMag). I've spent a lot of time on here today, deep in the archives of my quit......it's been therapeutic. 'Crazy'
Stay strong quitters.
What's up, Scott? I'm sorry to hear about your dad, and your diagnosis.
The good news is that I will always be here with a raging hard-on for our collective quit. ;)
Or is that even good news?
Hey Dean, how the hell are you brother?!
It's good to hear from a "familiar voice", so to speak. No freaking idea what going on with me right now. I'm just working through some shit I guess, and while doing so, felt the need to re-visit this place.
I would expect nothing less than a raging hard-on from you. 'drool'
Me? I'm great! Two healthy boys (7 and 5), a wife who doesn't totally shit on me, gainful employment, and health all around. I can ask for nothing more, man. I'd be a monster if I did.
I stop into KTC now and then. Just so happens that our now/then matched this time. Glad it did!
You can PM anytime you want, if you need to.
Yours in boners,
Dean
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you quitters bring tears to my eyes.....
as much as the challenges suck, I sure love you attitude Scott. I appreciate your post for sure.
LOVE seeing you old fuckers dropping by :)
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you quitters bring tears to my eyes.....
as much as the challenges suck, I sure love you attitude Scott. I appreciate your post for sure.
LOVE seeing you old fuckers dropping by :)
April '09 representing! Hope all is well rky!!
They do suck....but much like Dean, life really is good. My wife and kiddos are doing great, and I am still earning a paycheck as well. In many ways, life's never been better.
Dean, I'll stop by July '09 and shoot the shit some time.......same here, PM me any time.
This old fucker is feeling the need to maybe involve myself more around here again. I'm in a strange place right now, and dragging a quitter or 2 to the promised land might be good for me right now.
Thanks for stopping in guys, epic to hear from a couple of my '09 stallions!
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you quitters bring tears to my eyes.....
as much as the challenges suck, I sure love you attitude Scott. I appreciate your post for sure.
LOVE seeing you old fuckers dropping by :)
April '09 representing! Hope all is well rky!!
They do suck....but much like Dean, life really is good. My wife and kiddos are doing great, and I am still earning a paycheck as well. In many ways, life's never been better.
Dean, I'll stop by July '09 and shoot the shit some time.......same here, PM me any time.
This old fucker is feeling the need to maybe involve myself more around here again. I'm in a strange place right now, and dragging a quitter or 2 to the promised land might be good for me right now.
Thanks for stopping in guys, epic to hear from a couple of my '09 stallions!
I hear you brother. I think I was in the same place about 10 months ago when I decided to jump back in and see what kind of shit I could stir up. It is definitely eye opening to see the process still working after seemingly so long since we were firmly in the trenches fighting tooth and nail.
Glad life is generally treating you well....I am in the same boat here. Everyone happy, healthy...that is about all a guy can ask for. Damn glad to see you dropping in. It is really great to see some of the old quitters every now and then. :)
now about GlennFTK....where has that big ass Jersey boy been? LOL.
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you quitters bring tears to my eyes.....
as much as the challenges suck, I sure love you attitude Scott. I appreciate your post for sure.
LOVE seeing you old fuckers dropping by :)
April '09 representing! Hope all is well rky!!
They do suck....but much like Dean, life really is good. My wife and kiddos are doing great, and I am still earning a paycheck as well. In many ways, life's never been better.
Dean, I'll stop by July '09 and shoot the shit some time.......same here, PM me any time.
This old fucker is feeling the need to maybe involve myself more around here again. I'm in a strange place right now, and dragging a quitter or 2 to the promised land might be good for me right now.
Thanks for stopping in guys, epic to hear from a couple of my '09 stallions!
I hear you brother. I think I was in the same place about 10 months ago when I decided to jump back in and see what kind of shit I could stir up. It is definitely eye opening to see the process still working after seemingly so long since we were firmly in the trenches fighting tooth and nail.
Glad life is generally treating you well....I am in the same boat here. Everyone happy, healthy...that is about all a guy can ask for. Damn glad to see you dropping in. It is really great to see some of the old quitters every now and then. :)
now about GlennFTK....where has that big ass Jersey boy been? LOL.
What's happening, Jeff? Good to see you!
Yes, with any luck, we will be able to hijack LAQ's intro thread and turn it into a super-gay reunion.
But no fooling: These few messages are more than just hellos. They're more skin in the game...more brotherhood. All these years later, and it still doesn't go to waste. How could I let you two down?
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you quitters bring tears to my eyes.....
as much as the challenges suck, I sure love you attitude Scott. I appreciate your post for sure.
LOVE seeing you old fuckers dropping by :)
April '09 representing! Hope all is well rky!!
They do suck....but much like Dean, life really is good. My wife and kiddos are doing great, and I am still earning a paycheck as well. In many ways, life's never been better.
Dean, I'll stop by July '09 and shoot the shit some time.......same here, PM me any time.
This old fucker is feeling the need to maybe involve myself more around here again. I'm in a strange place right now, and dragging a quitter or 2 to the promised land might be good for me right now.
Thanks for stopping in guys, epic to hear from a couple of my '09 stallions!
I hear you brother. I think I was in the same place about 10 months ago when I decided to jump back in and see what kind of shit I could stir up. It is definitely eye opening to see the process still working after seemingly so long since we were firmly in the trenches fighting tooth and nail.
Glad life is generally treating you well....I am in the same boat here. Everyone happy, healthy...that is about all a guy can ask for. Damn glad to see you dropping in. It is really great to see some of the old quitters every now and then. :)
now about GlennFTK....where has that big ass Jersey boy been? LOL.
What's happening, Jeff? Good to see you!
Yes, with any luck, we will be able to hijack LAQ's intro thread and turn it into a super-gay reunion.
But no fooling: These few messages are more than just hellos. They're more skin in the game...more brotherhood. All these years later, and it still doesn't go to waste. How could I let you two down?
Deano, my intro thread has always been open to whatever kind of debauchery would get us through the dog days of the quit!
I disappeared for a long time guys. Definitely not one of my better ideas......but at least I had the good sense to come back home when I was feeling beat down.
It's truly a strange phenomenon.....a bond forged with total strangers, all because we are fighting the same demons, striving for a common goal.
Syndrome posted a summary in August '09 of how many originals are posting in each month of 2009. The remaining studs are few. Kind of a tough pill to swallow. I wish all of the new quitters that are fighting for the HOF would see that, and understand how nature takes it's course over time. Complacency can destroy a good quit at any time.....even after hundreds or thousands of days. I wish and hope that they all find the kind of brotherhood that some of us found back in 2009. You are so right Dean, it HAS NOT gone to waste, even after more than 6 years.
We will not let each other down. We are gods of quit. :boss:
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Very cool to see this thread up top.
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Thanks fellows! Great to see such a strong bond after so long! Definitely gives me strength in my own quit! Goes to show brotherhood for life! Quit on!
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Rap music offends me. It's usually lyrically disgusting. It's poison to the minds of the youth of America as far as I am concerned.
Therefore, I want it banned. That's right, you heard me. I don't like it. It represents something that is disturbing to me. No one should have the right to listen to it, or believe in the garbage that it represents.
'Finger'
A ridiculous notion, isn't it?? I don't like it, so I just change the channel. If others want to listen to it, go for it. And if an occasional mentally throwed off person acts a certain way, or commits certain acts in the name of what he has learned from his rap music, I don't freak out.
We can't ban the bad people and make the world we live in okay. Nor can we legislate the "bad" out. Murderers will still kill with either an illegally obtained gun, or with some other weapon. It's not about the weapon, it's about the fact that some people are just wack jobs. Racists will still be racists, with or without a Confederate flag flying. Taking the Dukes of Hazzard off of TV will not eliminate the evil that is racism.
Have a nice day, quitters.
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Rap music offends me. It's usually lyrically disgusting. It's poison to the minds of the youth of America as far as I am concerned.
Therefore, I want it banned. That's right, you heard me. I don't like it. It represents something that is disturbing to me. No one should have the right to listen to it, or believe in the garbage that it represents.
'Finger'
A ridiculous notion, isn't it?? I don't like it, so I just change the channel. If others want to listen to it, go for it. And if an occasional mentally throwed off person acts a certain way, or commits certain acts in the name of what he has learned from his rap music, I don't freak out.
We can't ban the bad people and make the world we live in okay. Nor can we legislate the "bad" out. Murderers will still kill with either an illegally obtained gun, or with some other weapon. It's not about the weapon, it's about the fact that some people are just wack jobs. Racists will still be racists, with or without a Confederate flag flying. Taking the Dukes of Hazzard off of TV will not eliminate the evil that is racism.
Have a nice day, quitters.
Well put my friend! Some don't like everything posted on ktc so they go apeshit or quit, take what you need and leave the rest! Quit on!
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Rap music offends me. It's usually lyrically disgusting. It's poison to the minds of the youth of America as far as I am concerned.
Therefore, I want it banned. That's right, you heard me. I don't like it. It represents something that is disturbing to me. No one should have the right to listen to it, or believe in the garbage that it represents.
'Finger'
A ridiculous notion, isn't it?? I don't like it, so I just change the channel. If others want to listen to it, go for it. And if an occasional mentally throwed off person acts a certain way, or commits certain acts in the name of what he has learned from his rap music, I don't freak out.
We can't ban the bad people and make the world we live in okay. Nor can we legislate the "bad" out. Murderers will still kill with either an illegally obtained gun, or with some other weapon. It's not about the weapon, it's about the fact that some people are just wack jobs. Racists will still be racists, with or without a Confederate flag flying. Taking the Dukes of Hazzard off of TV will not eliminate the evil that is racism.
Have a nice day, quitters.
Well put my friend! Some don't like everything posted on ktc so they go apeshit or quit, take what you need and leave the rest! Quit on!
It's the pussification of America, Pab. Everyone getting their feelings hurt. Just STFU and live YOUR life, and stop belly-aching over every damn little thing that you disagree with.
And you are so right, what goes on within the 4 walls of KTC is a microcosm of the real world in many ways.