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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: DoneDippingDenny on July 29, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
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I got a bit scared when I looked in the mirror last Thursday night. I seen something that scared me for sure inside my jaw. It felt tender to the touch, but was a hard knot about the size of a pea. Oh well, I woke up Friday morning, put a pinch in and went on with life. Got to work and sat down at my desk - fired up the computer and thought about that little sore knot. I hit the internet and looked at plenty more pics that further induced fear. I then thought about my children. I want to be there for them as my Dad has been for me. Who am I to selfishly steal their dad away from them. My mind drifted to a very dear friend of mine who lost his life in Afganistan in mid June. At his funeral I was an absolute wreck. He fortunately hadn't married and didn't have children, but he did have a nephew that he was quite close to. I started thinking about that little boys pain and recognizing that I had a little boy about the same age at home and if I died he would go through that terrible pain. The difference would be unlike my friend who died a hero for our nation, I would die a retarded idiot for commiting suicide one dip at a time. So, the dip came out and a brand new can (missing only that one dip) went in the trash. It WAS -IS- and WILL BE the LAST can! Last night I read a post about a gentleman who had died. The story was so similar to what mine could have been. Leaving children to mourn for my selfish act. It broke my heart when I thought about it on day 6, and I am not ashamed to say I cried - knowing that I have been doing the same thing to my family as Tom had. I am so glad that story was posted on here and every newbie needs to check out everything they can on this site. I know that at 7 days quit I have a long way to go, and my body certainly has a long way to go before I am "out of the woods", but that crap has lost its control over me. I am QUIT. I am quit for my kids, for my wife, for Tom (who was in the story that killed me over last night) but I QUIT for Denny!!!
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I got a bit scared when I looked in the mirror last Thursday night. I seen something that scared me for sure inside my jaw. It felt tender to the touch, but was a hard knot about the size of a pea. Oh well, I woke up Friday morning, put a pinch in and went on with life. Got to work and sat down at my desk - fired up the computer and thought about that little sore knot. I hit the internet and looked at plenty more pics that further induced fear. I then thought about my children. I want to be there for them as my Dad has been for me. Who am I to selfishly steal their dad away from them. My mind drifted to a very dear friend of mine who lost his life in Afganistan in mid June. At his funeral I was an absolute wreck. He fortunately hadn't married and didn't have children, but he did have a nephew that he was quite close to. I started thinking about that little boys pain and recognizing that I had a little boy about the same age at home and if I died he would go through that terrible pain. The difference would be unlike my friend who died a hero for our nation, I would die a retarded idiot for commiting suicide one dip at a time. So, the dip came out and a brand new can (missing only that one dip) went in the trash. It WAS -IS- and WILL BE the LAST can! Last night I read a post about a gentleman who had died. The story was so similar to what mine could have been. Leaving children to mourn for my selfish act. It broke my heart when I thought about it on day 6, and I am not ashamed to say I cried - knowing that I have been doing the same thing to my family as Tom had. I am so glad that story was posted on here and every newbie needs to check out everything they can on this site. I know that at 7 days quit I have a long way to go, and my body certainly has a long way to go before I am "out of the woods", but that crap has lost its control over me. I am QUIT. I am quit for my kids, for my wife, for Tom (who was in the story that killed me over last night) but I QUIT for Denny!!!
Denny - welcome to the quit. I would recommend going to the dentist and getting checked out. Read everything you can, drink lots of water, exercise, and find your group and post your commit. THEN keep your word. You post everyday in the morning that you will not dip for that day. THEN don't break your word.
Get contact info from folks here, and your group. Get connected. I would assume you will be in the NOV group. Find it and post up. If you need help, leave a message back here and someone will respond.
Stay strong - stay quit - I quit with Denny today.
Rob
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I got a bit scared when I looked in the mirror last Thursday night. I seen something that scared me for sure inside my jaw. It felt tender to the touch, but was a hard knot about the size of a pea. Oh well, I woke up Friday morning, put a pinch in and went on with life. Got to work and sat down at my desk - fired up the computer and thought about that little sore knot. I hit the internet and looked at plenty more pics that further induced fear. I then thought about my children. I want to be there for them as my Dad has been for me. Who am I to selfishly steal their dad away from them. My mind drifted to a very dear friend of mine who lost his life in Afganistan in mid June. At his funeral I was an absolute wreck. He fortunately hadn't married and didn't have children, but he did have a nephew that he was quite close to. I started thinking about that little boys pain and recognizing that I had a little boy about the same age at home and if I died he would go through that terrible pain. The difference would be unlike my friend who died a hero for our nation, I would die a retarded idiot for commiting suicide one dip at a time. So, the dip came out and a brand new can (missing only that one dip) went in the trash. It WAS -IS- and WILL BE the LAST can! Last night I read a post about a gentleman who had died. The story was so similar to what mine could have been. Leaving children to mourn for my selfish act. It broke my heart when I thought about it on day 6, and I am not ashamed to say I cried - knowing that I have been doing the same thing to my family as Tom had. I am so glad that story was posted on here and every newbie needs to check out everything they can on this site. I know that at 7 days quit I have a long way to go, and my body certainly has a long way to go before I am "out of the woods", but that crap has lost its control over me. I am QUIT. I am quit for my kids, for my wife, for Tom (who was in the story that killed me over last night) but I QUIT for Denny!!!
Denny - welcome to the quit. I would recommend going to the dentist and getting checked out. Read everything you can, drink lots of water, exercise, and find your group and post your commit. THEN keep your word. You post everyday in the morning that you will not dip for that day. THEN don't break your word.
Get contact info from folks here, and your group. Get connected. I would assume you will be in the NOV group. Find it and post up. If you need help, leave a message back here and someone will respond.
Stay strong - stay quit - I quit with Denny today.
Rob
I second the trip to the Dr.
Glad your quit make sure to post roll every day. I also quit with Denny.
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I got a bit scared when I looked in the mirror last Thursday night. I seen something that scared me for sure inside my jaw. It felt tender to the touch, but was a hard knot about the size of a pea. Oh well, I woke up Friday morning, put a pinch in and went on with life. Got to work and sat down at my desk - fired up the computer and thought about that little sore knot. I hit the internet and looked at plenty more pics that further induced fear. I then thought about my children. I want to be there for them as my Dad has been for me. Who am I to selfishly steal their dad away from them. My mind drifted to a very dear friend of mine who lost his life in Afganistan in mid June. At his funeral I was an absolute wreck. He fortunately hadn't married and didn't have children, but he did have a nephew that he was quite close to. I started thinking about that little boys pain and recognizing that I had a little boy about the same age at home and if I died he would go through that terrible pain. The difference would be unlike my friend who died a hero for our nation, I would die a retarded idiot for commiting suicide one dip at a time. So, the dip came out and a brand new can (missing only that one dip) went in the trash. It WAS -IS- and WILL BE the LAST can! Last night I read a post about a gentleman who had died. The story was so similar to what mine could have been. Leaving children to mourn for my selfish act. It broke my heart when I thought about it on day 6, and I am not ashamed to say I cried - knowing that I have been doing the same thing to my family as Tom had. I am so glad that story was posted on here and every newbie needs to check out everything they can on this site. I know that at 7 days quit I have a long way to go, and my body certainly has a long way to go before I am "out of the woods", but that crap has lost its control over me. I am QUIT. I am quit for my kids, for my wife, for Tom (who was in the story that killed me over last night) but I QUIT for Denny!!!
Denny - welcome to the quit. I would recommend going to the dentist and getting checked out. Read everything you can, drink lots of water, exercise, and find your group and post your commit. THEN keep your word. You post everyday in the morning that you will not dip for that day. THEN don't break your word.
Get contact info from folks here, and your group. Get connected. I would assume you will be in the NOV group. Find it and post up. If you need help, leave a message back here and someone will respond.
Stay strong - stay quit - I quit with Denny today.
Rob
I second the trip to the Dr.
Glad your quit make sure to post roll every day. I also quit with Denny.
Denny,
Go to the pros and get looked at. It is scary but also feels great to hear you are clean.
If you are like me which it appears you are you will worry about every little thing going on for the first oh say 150 days or so. Your body is going to change, your mouth certainly will get sores, spots etc. Part of getting the poision out of your system.
If you need anything reach out.. thats why we are here.
Now get off your ass and go get checked... let us know how it goes.
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TripleD here with some encouragement of the Biblical kind. Each week I intend to post verses from the Bible. I urge you to consider these as you go throughout your week. Regardless of your belief system, the Bible has great teachings and is at a minimum full of sound advice and great instructions.
I am at day 10, so I will likely be here with you all for quite a while. I do not intend to preach or harp at anyone. I need all of you for my support group. I do however intend to give guidance where I can. I believe that we all need one another. Let's get quit...
Matthew 26:41 _Watch and pray, that you enter not into tepmtation: the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Philippians 4:13_I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
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Looking forward to them!
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When it comes to tobacco companies, I prefer Psalm 94:1
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My patron St. is St. Francis de Sales - this is a prayer I keep in the visor of my car that he wrote. Hope it is helpful to you guys as well. Thanks Tripple D -
"My God, I give you this day. I offer you, now, all of the good that I shall do and I promise to accept, for love of you, all of the difficulty that I shall meet. Help me to conduct myself during this day in a manner pleasing to you. Amen."
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Thanks man! We're all here for the same fight together.
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My patron St. is St. Francis de Sales - this is a prayer I keep in the visor of my car that he wrote. Hope it is helpful to you guys as well. Thanks Tripple D -
"My God, I give you this day. I offer you, now, all of the good that I shall do and I promise to accept, for love of you, all of the difficulty that I shall meet. Help me to conduct myself during this day in a manner pleasing to you. Amen."
This really hit home for me. Thanks for posting this! This is more or less the prayer I've been trying to pray, It looks like someone else has already said it perfectly.
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When it comes to tobacco companies, I prefer Psalm 94:1
I would have to agree. !!! Develop a nice seething hatred for the fuckers that produce it, sell it, market it.... really helps to keep you focused. NEVER AGAIN !!
O LORD, the God of vengeance, O God of vengeance, let your glorious justice shine forth!
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The Quote from Pulp Fiction works nicely also.....
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."
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The Quote from Pulp Fiction works nicely also.....
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."
Here's two from pulp fiction with my spin on it:
"Dip, motherfucker, did you quit it?"
points gun"Say dip again. Say dip again, I dare you, I double dare you motherfucker, say dip one more god damn time!"
Dave
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I am on day #13 and have been told several times that I am coming into a fog, and it's gonna catch up with me eventually. All of you pessimistic sum-b's are right. I feel very blah today. Didn't want to get out of bed, didn't want to get to work, don't want to be at work and don't want to talk to anyone. I get tense really quickly and just don't feel well. I have kind of a hovering headache. Not a bad one, but it's there just the same. I read though stuff on here and get pissed, I am just not happy and that's pretty unlike me. Just kind of hate the world right now. But, there's a brighter day coming. Here's to hoping my tomorrow is better than my today. But, today I am quit.
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Basically I think I am starting my first period.
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I am on day #13 and have been told several times that I am coming into a fog, and it's gonna catch up with me eventually. All of you pessimistic sum-b's are right. I feel very blah today. Didn't want to get out of bed, didn't want to get to work, don't want to be at work and don't want to talk to anyone. I get tense really quickly and just don't feel well. I have kind of a hovering headache. Not a bad one, but it's there just the same. I read though stuff on here and get pissed, I am just not happy and that's pretty unlike me. Just kind of hate the world right now. But, there's a brighter day coming. Here's to hoping my tomorrow is better than my today. But, today I am quit.
TRIPPLE DDDD!
Get pissed at USTobacco for making you feel this way and vow to never give those fuckers another dime.
Write down how you feel right now, and remember it the next time you think about caving or are craving. Vow to never feel this way again.
It helps me to yell at people on the highway on my way in to work. And on my way home. Annonymous yelling is good for the soul, I hear.
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I am on day #13 and have been told several times that I am coming into a fog, and it's gonna catch up with me eventually. All of you pessimistic sum-b's are right. I feel very blah today. Didn't want to get out of bed, didn't want to get to work, don't want to be at work and don't want to talk to anyone. I get tense really quickly and just don't feel well. I have kind of a hovering headache. Not a bad one, but it's there just the same. I read though stuff on here and get pissed, I am just not happy and that's pretty unlike me. Just kind of hate the world right now. But, there's a brighter day coming. Here's to hoping my tomorrow is better than my today. But, today I am quit.
We've just got to hang in there. Drink plenty of water, take tylenol for the headaches, a sleep aid for insomnia if you're having that problem, and maybe take a multivitamin. I'm doing those things and I'm beginning to feel like I can see a light at the end of the tunnel whereas in the beginning I thought I was getting ready to call it a life. My main problems were/are acid reflux and insomnia. But I won't let up and neither will you.
Dave
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I am on day #13 and have been told several times that I am coming into a fog, and it's gonna catch up with me eventually. All of you pessimistic sum-b's are right. I feel very blah today. Didn't want to get out of bed, didn't want to get to work, don't want to be at work and don't want to talk to anyone. I get tense really quickly and just don't feel well. I have kind of a hovering headache. Not a bad one, but it's there just the same. I read though stuff on here and get pissed, I am just not happy and that's pretty unlike me. Just kind of hate the world right now. But, there's a brighter day coming. Here's to hoping my tomorrow is better than my today. But, today I am quit.
Stay strong brother..I had days like that and there will be brighter ones!
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Hang in there 3D. You poisoned yourself for a very long time, it will not go away in 13 days.
The hills and valleys will get smoother and farther apart....you just have to trust and stick with it.
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Deep breathing and prayer is helpful for me. I know you want it to be over with, I do to. Unfortunately, Redtrain is right. Clearing out thousands of days worth of poisons isn't going to happen in a few weeks. Keep your chin up and focus on your quit. You do this right and it will only happen once.
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15 push ups every time you get a craving.......not only will you be quit and a HOF'er at the end of 100 days but you will have guns (biceps) and 6 pack abs as an added bonus.....DO NOT QUIT....i am day nine and have dipped for 30 years...you can do it man!!!!!!!!!!!
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Deep breathing and prayer is helpful for me. I know you want it to be over with, I do to. Unfortunately, Redtrain is right. Clearing out thousands of days worth of poisons isn't going to happen in a few weeks. Keep your chin up and focus on your quit. You do this right and it will only happen once.
It helped me in the deep fog to get exercise. Sweat the bitch out. She doesn't like that. I think it's because exercise is healthy and she is not. So go for a jog/run and sweat. This was also my time to sing, pray and talk to myself (things like - be pissed at the dip, no dip, control the rage, burn the rage off)...
As others have said, drink fluids (juice, water) and keep the faith. Good news it should clear up a bit in a few days. Bad news I'm in day 52 and have hit fog periods 3-4 different times. Just learn to deal with them, then it gets better.
Your doing great tripple D.
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Is that bitch playin games in your head man? That's just fucked up but you know what's awesome? The fact that you have gone this long without and really do not need it. It's just that bitch playin games in your head and we know you can kick her ass. Keep with it buddy.
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thank you all for the encouragement. I had a bad time for a few hours, but it's clearer now.
I guess I'll have some times, but oh yeah... SHE's gonna die for sure. If I don't kill the nic she'll kill me
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As promised, here are the verses I suggest for week ending 8/14/2010
(Isaiah 40:29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might.
(II Timothy 1:7) For God didnÂ’t give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.
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As promised, here are the verses I suggest for week ending 8/14/2010
(Isaiah 40:29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might.
(II Timothy 1:7) For God didnÂ’t give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.
that and a nickel will get you a ride on the Subway.
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As promised, here are the verses I suggest for week ending 8/14/2010
(Isaiah 40:29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might.
(II Timothy 1:7) For God didnÂ’t give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.
that and a nickel will get you a ride on the Subway.
Gftk, if you don't like it, stay off the page. It's clearly marked, if you don't have faith and won't give it a chance, fine, we won't try to convert you. There is no reason to come into someone's personal page to rattle off a smartalleck comment. If you want to debate religion, there's a page for that, go there and I'm sure you can pick a fight.This fellow is a fine new quitter doing what helps him quit. There's absolutely no call for you to try to harm his quit. He's also helping others in the process, including myself. Try to use a little refrain next time, or better yet, just keep your mouth shut.
Denny, keep it up man. I, for one, appreciate it.
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As promised, here are the verses I suggest for week ending 8/14/2010
(Isaiah 40:29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might.
(II Timothy 1:7) For God didnÂ’t give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.
that and a nickel will get you a ride on the Subway.
Gftk, if you don't like it, stay off the page. It's clearly marked, if you don't have faith and won't give it a chance, fine, we won't try to convert you. There is no reason to come into someone's personal page to rattle off a smartalleck comment. If you want to debate religion, there's a page for that, go there and I'm sure you can pick a fight.This fellow is a fine new quitter doing what helps him quit. There's absolutely no call for you to try to harm his quit. He's also helping others in the process, including myself. Try to use a little refrain next time, or better yet, just keep your mouth shut.
Denny, keep it up man. I, for one, appreciate it.
Yeah Denny, thanks for the verses.
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As promised, here are the verses I suggest for week ending 8/14/2010
(Isaiah 40:29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might.
(II Timothy 1:7) For God didnÂ’t give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.
that and a nickel will get you a ride on the Subway.
Gftk, if you don't like it, stay off the page. It's clearly marked, if you don't have faith and won't give it a chance, fine, we won't try to convert you. There is no reason to come into someone's personal page to rattle off a smartalleck comment. If you want to debate religion, there's a page for that, go there and I'm sure you can pick a fight.This fellow is a fine new quitter doing what helps him quit. There's absolutely no call for you to try to harm his quit. He's also helping others in the process, including myself. Try to use a little refrain next time, or better yet, just keep your mouth shut.
Denny, keep it up man. I, for one, appreciate it.
Yeah Denny, thanks for the verses.
(Proverbs 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.
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As promised, here are the verses I suggest for week ending 8/14/2010
(Isaiah 40:29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might.
(II Timothy 1:7) For God didnÂ’t give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.
that and a nickel will get you a ride on the Subway.
Gftk, if you don't like it, stay off the page. It's clearly marked, if you don't have faith and won't give it a chance, fine, we won't try to convert you. There is no reason to come into someone's personal page to rattle off a smartalleck comment. If you want to debate religion, there's a page for that, go there and I'm sure you can pick a fight.This fellow is a fine new quitter doing what helps him quit. There's absolutely no call for you to try to harm his quit. He's also helping others in the process, including myself. Try to use a little refrain next time, or better yet, just keep your mouth shut.
Denny, keep it up man. I, for one, appreciate it.
Yeah Denny, thanks for the verses.
(Proverbs 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.
the only Isiah I know is Isiah Thomas. And he sucks ass.
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As promised, here are the verses I suggest for week ending 8/14/2010
(Isaiah 40:29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might.
(II Timothy 1:7) For God didnÂ’t give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.
that and a nickel will get you a ride on the Subway.
Gftk, if you don't like it, stay off the page. It's clearly marked, if you don't have faith and won't give it a chance, fine, we won't try to convert you. There is no reason to come into someone's personal page to rattle off a smartalleck comment. If you want to debate religion, there's a page for that, go there and I'm sure you can pick a fight.This fellow is a fine new quitter doing what helps him quit. There's absolutely no call for you to try to harm his quit. He's also helping others in the process, including myself. Try to use a little refrain next time, or better yet, just keep your mouth shut.
Denny, keep it up man. I, for one, appreciate it.
Yeah Denny, thanks for the verses.
(Proverbs 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.
the only Isiah I know is Isiah Thomas. And he sucks ass.
Knick prez Walsh seething over secret Isiah-Dolan deal
By MARC BERMAN
Last Updated: 6:39 AM, August 8, 2010
Posted: 2:41 AM, August 8, 2010
Knicks president Donnie Walsh is livid that Isiah Thomas is back in the organization and feels his standing with the franchise could be compromised by owner James Dolan's decision to rehire Thomas, The Post has learned.
According to a Knicks source, Walsh told Thomas in a face-to-face meeting two weeks ago he did not want him working for the organization. Dolan and Thomas had agreed that Thomas could fill the team's general manager vacancy if Walsh was OK with it.
When Walsh told Thomas he objected, Thomas went back to Dolan, who still has a love affair with the Hall of Famer and seemingly is on a mission to rehab Thomas' image.
Without Walsh's knowledge, Dolan and Thomas hatched a scheme in which Thomas could become a part-time consultant while remaining the coach at Florida International. (The NBA is reviewing whether the arrangement violates NBA rules on scouting procedures.)
Walsh, who had thought the Isiah issue was dead, was not debriefed until after the hiring was agreed upon, and he reluctantly put his name on a joint statement with Dolan. It was only recently that Walsh found out Thomas had been in Dolan's ear for months, offering free advice.
Some of Dolan's top advisors, including Garden president Hank Ratner, tried to talk Dolan out of naming Thomas as a consultant because of the public-relations backlash.
"Donnie doesn't want him there, nobody wants him there but Dolan," the team source said. "Isiah seems to have Jim wrapped around his finger."
Walsh was supposed to have full control of basketball operations when he was hired in 2008, but this incident shows that is not entirely true. Walsh also has tried to hire former Pacers Mel Daniels and Chris Mullin for front-office roles, but has been denied.
The Post reported 2½ weeks ago that Dolan met with Thomas at the Garden's offices at 2 Penn Plaza for hours. Walsh, at the time, said he was unaware of the meeting. In a Post interview Friday, Walsh admitted he was not involved in negotiations about Thomas' new consulting position.
Friday's announcement, predictably, has Knicks fans seething, putting a damper on what had been a decent summer, considering LeBron James' snub. The Knicks added five-time All-Star Amar'e Stoudemire, Raymond Felton and Anthony Randolph with a chance of tacking on Carmelo Anthony in 2011.
Walsh is in Indiana with his 12 grandchildren and did not return phone calls yesterday.
Walsh said Friday he is not hiring a GM, but Thomas' ultimate goal is to grab that position on the way to taking charge of basketball operations once again. Walsh has one guaranteed year left on his contract, but by making this move Dolan has usurped Walsh's authority.
If the NBA voids the Thomas contract, Dolan would have no choice but abide by Walsh's wishes or fire Walsh, who has had health issues this summer, injuring his hip and undergoing neck surgery that put him in a wheelchair.
Last month, The Post's Peter Vecsey reported Walsh possibly would retire this summer. Walsh repeatedly has denied he has any intention of retiring. Thomas has four years left on his FIU contract, but he is not expected to stay that long. Thomas perhaps realizes the Miami school will be even more overshadowed in the coming years with the advent of the Heat's Dream Team. Thomas was already lobbying for a GM job in comments made Friday to ESPN.com.
As The Post reported yesterday, Thomas boasted to a confidant two summers ago he would one day run the Knicks again and just needed time to repair his image.
During the press conference to introduce Stoudemire, Walsh thanked Thomas for his help in the recruiting process. But some in the organization believe Thomas had absolutely no influence on Stoudemire's decision. The Knicks' spin is Thomas can help them in the 2011 and 2012 free agency to recruit Anthony and Chris Paul, the star Hornets point guard who considers Thomas one of his idols.
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As promised, here are the verses I suggest for week ending 8/14/2010
(Isaiah 40:29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might.
(II Timothy 1:7) For God didnÂ’t give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control.
that and a nickel will get you a ride on the Subway.
Gftk, if you don't like it, stay off the page. It's clearly marked, if you don't have faith and won't give it a chance, fine, we won't try to convert you. There is no reason to come into someone's personal page to rattle off a smartalleck comment. If you want to debate religion, there's a page for that, go there and I'm sure you can pick a fight.This fellow is a fine new quitter doing what helps him quit. There's absolutely no call for you to try to harm his quit. He's also helping others in the process, including myself. Try to use a little refrain next time, or better yet, just keep your mouth shut.
Denny, keep it up man. I, for one, appreciate it.
Yeah Denny, thanks for the verses.
(Proverbs 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.
the only Isiah I know is Isiah Thomas. And he sucks ass.
Knick prez Walsh seething over secret Isiah-Dolan deal
By MARC BERMAN
Last Updated: 6:39 AM, August 8, 2010
Posted: 2:41 AM, August 8, 2010
Knicks president Donnie Walsh is livid that Isiah Thomas is back in the organization and feels his standing with the franchise could be compromised by owner James Dolan's decision to rehire Thomas, The Post has learned.
According to a Knicks source, Walsh told Thomas in a face-to-face meeting two weeks ago he did not want him working for the organization. Dolan and Thomas had agreed that Thomas could fill the team's general manager vacancy if Walsh was OK with it.
When Walsh told Thomas he objected, Thomas went back to Dolan, who still has a love affair with the Hall of Famer and seemingly is on a mission to rehab Thomas' image.
Without Walsh's knowledge, Dolan and Thomas hatched a scheme in which Thomas could become a part-time consultant while remaining the coach at Florida International. (The NBA is reviewing whether the arrangement violates NBA rules on scouting procedures.)
Walsh, who had thought the Isiah issue was dead, was not debriefed until after the hiring was agreed upon, and he reluctantly put his name on a joint statement with Dolan. It was only recently that Walsh found out Thomas had been in Dolan's ear for months, offering free advice.
Some of Dolan's top advisors, including Garden president Hank Ratner, tried to talk Dolan out of naming Thomas as a consultant because of the public-relations backlash.
"Donnie doesn't want him there, nobody wants him there but Dolan," the team source said. "Isiah seems to have Jim wrapped around his finger."
Walsh was supposed to have full control of basketball operations when he was hired in 2008, but this incident shows that is not entirely true. Walsh also has tried to hire former Pacers Mel Daniels and Chris Mullin for front-office roles, but has been denied.
The Post reported 2½ weeks ago that Dolan met with Thomas at the Garden's offices at 2 Penn Plaza for hours. Walsh, at the time, said he was unaware of the meeting. In a Post interview Friday, Walsh admitted he was not involved in negotiations about Thomas' new consulting position.
Friday's announcement, predictably, has Knicks fans seething, putting a damper on what had been a decent summer, considering LeBron James' snub. The Knicks added five-time All-Star Amar'e Stoudemire, Raymond Felton and Anthony Randolph with a chance of tacking on Carmelo Anthony in 2011.
Walsh is in Indiana with his 12 grandchildren and did not return phone calls yesterday.
Walsh said Friday he is not hiring a GM, but Thomas' ultimate goal is to grab that position on the way to taking charge of basketball operations once again. Walsh has one guaranteed year left on his contract, but by making this move Dolan has usurped Walsh's authority.
If the NBA voids the Thomas contract, Dolan would have no choice but abide by Walsh's wishes or fire Walsh, who has had health issues this summer, injuring his hip and undergoing neck surgery that put him in a wheelchair.
Last month, The Post's Peter Vecsey reported Walsh possibly would retire this summer. Walsh repeatedly has denied he has any intention of retiring. Thomas has four years left on his FIU contract, but he is not expected to stay that long. Thomas perhaps realizes the Miami school will be even more overshadowed in the coming years with the advent of the Heat's Dream Team. Thomas was already lobbying for a GM job in comments made Friday to ESPN.com.
As The Post reported yesterday, Thomas boasted to a confidant two summers ago he would one day run the Knicks again and just needed time to repair his image.
During the press conference to introduce Stoudemire, Walsh thanked Thomas for his help in the recruiting process. But some in the organization believe Thomas had absolutely no influence on Stoudemire's decision. The Knicks' spin is Thomas can help them in the 2011 and 2012 free agency to recruit Anthony and Chris Paul, the star Hornets point guard who considers Thomas one of his idols.
Congrats on being a douchebag...
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Hey Kodiac Glen you are a dip shit...
Apparently you are not a christian, so what is that supposed to make you cool or something? I dont give a fat fuck what your religion is, it is your faith and thats it and thats all. It doesn't affect me. But to come on this fine quitters page and make light of his religion makes you a real fuckhead. If you dont like it dont click on it!
Now you can continue to act like a prepubicient 13 year old boy or you can recognize that your joke didn't play well, man up, and apologize to DDD like the man we all know you are capable of being. Your call...
MOA 'Finger'
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Hey Kodiac Glen you are a dip shit...
Apparently you are not a christian, so what is that supposed to make you cool or something? I dont give a fat fuck what your religion is, it is your faith and thats it and thats all. It doesn't affect me. But to come on this fine quitters page and make light of his religion makes you a real fuckhead. If you dont like it dont click on it!
Now you can continue to act like a prepubicient 13 year old boy or you can recognize that your joke didn't play well, man up, and apologize to DDD like the man we all know you are capable of being. Your call...
MOA 'Finger'
Go to Church and pray for me.
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Wow. What doosh you are GFTK. Trollish actually. Asshole.
There is a prayers thread that may work?
If not, and someone is willing to diligently keep up with it, LOOT is cool with Creating a VOTW (Verse Of The Week).
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Wow. What doosh you are GFTK. Trollish actually. Asshole.
There is a prayers thread that may work?
If not, and someone is willing to diligently keep up with it, LOOT is cool with Creating a VOTW (Verse Of The Week).
All this name calling is not very Christian like.
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Wow. What doosh you are GFTK. Trollish actually. Asshole.
There is a prayers thread that may work?
If not, and someone is willing to diligently keep up with it, LOOT is cool with Creating a VOTW (Verse Of The Week).
All this name calling is not very Christian like.
I think what everyone is trying to say is that a lot of people here like these Bible verses and they provide motivation to stay quit another day. It is just frustrating to these people to have someone come in and talk down about their methods. It is just a matter of respect. Respect what works for these people as they respect whatever works for you. There are no sides amongst us here. We're all here to fight against a very bad addiction. We are all on the same team.
Dave
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I just question what you feel you gain from your comments. Is your self-esteem so low that you only feel better by trying to bring down others? Anyone willing to post weekly verses or defend that person is so secure in their faith, it's never gonna work for you , so you may want to re-assess. Normally, I wouldn't even comment on your trollish remarks, but you chose to place them in a newbies thread. That tells me that you would rather try to run off a Christan than have them quit, which I believe everyone on this site, Christians or not, will have a problem with. Go somewhere else and pick on someone your own size, not a guy still in the fog. Or are you not man enough for that?
Like I said earlier, there is a thread for religious debate, if your views are that strong, go debate and discuss them there.
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Well, this thread went to shit in a hurry.
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Glenn,
Not in someone's personal thread. Knock it off, please.
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Glenn,
Not in someone's personal thread. Knock it off, please.
This is the Introduction thread not the Bible thumping thread.
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Glenn,
Not in someone's personal thread. Knock it off, please.
This is the Introduction thread not the Bible thumping thread.
Then don't click on it...pretty simple bro.
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Glenn,
Not in someone's personal thread. Knock it off, please.
This is the Introduction thread not the Bible thumping thread.
Then don't click on it...pretty simple bro.
Glenn hates everybody! He said it himself! I really appreciate the verses. Keep them coming DDD!
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Glenn,
Not in someone's personal thread. Knock it off, please.
This is the Introduction thread not the Bible thumping thread.
Then don't click on it...pretty simple bro.
Dude, seriously. It's HIS introduction thread. How many people have to tell you this is ridiculous, counterproductive, and disrespectful. I can't wrap my mind around why someone would feel the need to try to beat someone down who is just trying to inspire himself and others. You are accomplishing nothing positive here, only negative. I'm not really religious either, but wow. Why can't you (at least) stop, and (doubtfully, but hopefully) apologize.
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Guys, I appreciate the remarks. However, I believe that Glenn is bothering all of you far worse than he is me. Everyone is entitled to their belief system, or their choice of simply not having a belief system. I have dealt with people such as Glenn my entire life and have no issue with them. They choose to have a different perspective and they choose to share it. I choose to ignore it. If coming onto my thread slamming my "verses of the week" somehow helps him feel "whatever" he needs to feel, I am fine with that. My thought was that I would do this weekly for as long as I was a member of this site. My hope in that goal was 3 fold. First, I wanted something to give back which may be of benefit to someone. Secondly, it was a secondary accountability for me. If people get used to seeing my posts and start to miss them (if I were to quit), they may begin to request them again which would serve to help in my 3rd reason for posting this (believe it or not Glenn, several have messaged me asking that I continue - even before you chose to ensure that we all heard your side). Thirdly, it was to get me back into a bible that I have not opened in quite a while. I thought "you know, I am quitting a habit that I have had for a long time and anywhere that I can draw inspiration from will be a worthwhile effort". I knew then that some (currently only one) would likely disapprove of my method, but I don't necessarily approve of all methods that I have seen posted on this site. The difference between Glenn and I is that I choose to say to myself "that helps them, it's their thing and is not mine to judge". Glenn is welcome to say anything he would like in my threads. He's not going to change my belief system. In fact, he is likely only strengthening it. I have made some great friends on this site already and I have absolutely no intention of letting one sour apple spoil the bag of apples. I choose to simply cut the "bad spot" off of that apple and use what I can from it as well. In Glenn's case, there may be nothing left once the bad spot is cut away. However, he's a human with his own ideas and may be of benefit to someone on this earth, and more importanly on this site. He is welcome here, but should be aware that he will not change my weekly goal.
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Guys, I appreciate the remarks. However, I believe that Glenn is bothering all of you far worse than he is me. Everyone is entitled to their belief system, or their choice of simply not having a belief system. I have dealt with people such as Glenn my entire life and have no issue with them. They choose to have a different perspective and they choose to share it. I choose to ignore it. If coming onto my thread slamming my "verses of the week" somehow helps him feel "whatever" he needs to feel, I am fine with that. My thought was that I would do this weekly for as long as I was a member of this site. My hope in that goal was 3 fold. First, I wanted something to give back which may be of benefit to someone. Secondly, it was a secondary accountability for me. If people get used to seeing my posts and start to miss them (if I were to quit), they may begin to request them again which would serve to help in my 3rd reason for posting this (believe it or not Glenn, several have messaged me asking that I continue - even before you chose to ensure that we all heard your side). Thirdly, it was to get me back into a bible that I have not opened in quite a while. I thought "you know, I am quitting a habit that I have had for a long time and anywhere that I can draw inspiration from will be a worthwhile effort". I knew then that some (currently only one) would likely disapprove of my method, but I don't necessarily approve of all methods that I have seen posted on this site. The difference between Glenn and I is that I choose to say to myself "that helps them, it's their thing and is not mine to judge". Glenn is welcome to say anything he would like in my threads. He's not going to change my belief system. In fact, he is likely only strengthening it. I have made some great friends on this site already and I have absolutely no intention of letting one sour apple spoil the bag of apples. I choose to simply cut the "bad spot" off of that apple and use what I can from it as well. In Glenn's case, there may be nothing left once the bad spot is cut away. However, he's a human with his own ideas and may be of benefit to someone on this earth, and more importanly on this site. He is welcome here, but should be aware that he will not change my weekly goal.
thanks buddy! stay quit!
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BTW, I am not purposely fucking with this guy or his beliefs. i think the introduction section should be reserved for Introductions.
I do love getting all you people mad though. almost as much fun as watching Tiger Woods implode.
I love you all very much. Especially Martin.
Stay quit.
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VOTW created in Wildcard
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BTW, I am not purposely fucking with this guy or his beliefs. i think the introduction section should be reserved for Introductions.
I do love getting all you people mad though. almost as much fun as watching Tiger Woods implode.
I love you all very much. Especially Martin.
Stay quit.
I am impressed and sad that I have missed so much going on. I need to click here more often.
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Guys, I appreciate the remarks. However, I believe that Glenn is bothering all of you far worse than he is me. Everyone is entitled to their belief system, or their choice of simply not having a belief system. I have dealt with people such as Glenn my entire life and have no issue with them. They choose to have a different perspective and they choose to share it. I choose to ignore it. If coming onto my thread slamming my "verses of the week" somehow helps him feel "whatever" he needs to feel, I am fine with that. My thought was that I would do this weekly for as long as I was a member of this site. My hope in that goal was 3 fold. First, I wanted something to give back which may be of benefit to someone. Secondly, it was a secondary accountability for me. If people get used to seeing my posts and start to miss them (if I were to quit), they may begin to request them again which would serve to help in my 3rd reason for posting this (believe it or not Glenn, several have messaged me asking that I continue - even before you chose to ensure that we all heard your side). Thirdly, it was to get me back into a bible that I have not opened in quite a while. I thought "you know, I am quitting a habit that I have had for a long time and anywhere that I can draw inspiration from will be a worthwhile effort". I knew then that some (currently only one) would likely disapprove of my method, but I don't necessarily approve of all methods that I have seen posted on this site. The difference between Glenn and I is that I choose to say to myself "that helps them, it's their thing and is not mine to judge". Glenn is welcome to say anything he would like in my threads. He's not going to change my belief system. In fact, he is likely only strengthening it. I have made some great friends on this site already and I have absolutely no intention of letting one sour apple spoil the bag of apples. I choose to simply cut the "bad spot" off of that apple and use what I can from it as well. In Glenn's case, there may be nothing left once the bad spot is cut away. However, he's a human with his own ideas and may be of benefit to someone on this earth, and more importanly on this site. He is welcome here, but should be aware that he will not change my weekly goal.
can you clarify the following
my 3rd reason for posting this (believe it or not Glenn, s
Thirdly, it was to get me back into a bib
Which was your true 3rd reason?
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BTW, I am not purposely fucking with this guy or his beliefs. i think the introduction section should be reserved for Introductions.
I do love getting all you people mad though. almost as much fun as watching Tiger Woods implode.
I love you all very much. Especially Martin.
Stay quit.
Maybe he is INTRODUCING himself to you through God. Open your mind Glennnnnn!
Integrity is giving your word and keeping it. (Exodus 8:28-32)
Integrity is more valuable than riches. (Proverbs 28:6)
Loyalty can be demanding. (Exodus 17:8-13)
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BTW, I am not purposely fucking with this guy or his beliefs. i think the introduction section should be reserved for Introductions.Â
I do love getting all you people mad though. almost as much fun as watching Tiger Woods implode.
I love you all very much. Especially Martin.Â
Stay quit.
Maybe he is INTRODUCING himself to you through God. Open your mind Glennnnnn!
Integrity is giving your word and keeping it. (Exodus 8:28-32)
Integrity is more valuable than riches. (Proverbs 28:6)
Loyalty can be demanding. (Exodus 17:8-13)
"Whoop de Dam Doo" (Derrick Coleman, December 1994).
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I don't doubt that Glenn has some contempt for organized religion, but I also believe he's just being cheeky because Denny has created a buttload of threads in this section. A person can introduce himself only once, after all. One-thread-per-quitter rule. ;)
As for me, I'll take inspiration from any medium. And Christianity is defined not solely by belief or the Bible, but by those who practice it, one by one. Any person who truly seeks to live the life of a good Christian is a good person, in my book. Those who corrupt it and themselves, though, are common trash.
Denny: WWJD? He'd be full of balls and stay quit. Just keep that in mind. ;)
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I don't doubt that Glenn has some contempt for organized religion, but I also believe he's just being cheeky because Denny has created a buttload of threads in this section. A person can introduce himself only once, after all. One-thread-per-quitter rule. ;)
pretty much, Dean. LOL. i probably would have had the same reaction if he was quoting movie lines.
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I don't doubt that Glenn has some contempt for organized religion, but I also believe he's just being cheeky because Denny has created a buttload of threads in this section. A person can introduce himself only once, after all. One-thread-per-quitter rule. ;)
As for me, I'll take inspiration from any medium. And Christianity is defined not solely by belief or the Bible, but by those who practice it, one by one. Any person who truly seeks to live the life of a good Christian is a good person, in my book. Those who corrupt it and themselves, though, are common trash.
Denny: WWJD? He'd be full of balls and stay quit. Just keep that in mind. ;)
Although what you say (i.e., "Christianity is defined not solely by belief or the Bible, but by those who practice it...") is true in practice (because we are human sinners), true Christianity is solely defined by the Bible.
Anyway - just today I had three meetings where I introduced myself three times. I guess a person can introduce themselves more than once.
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I don't doubt that Glenn has some contempt for organized religion, but I also believe he's just being cheeky because Denny has created a buttload of threads in this section. A person can introduce himself only once, after all. One-thread-per-quitter rule. ;)
As for me, I'll take inspiration from any medium. And Christianity is defined not solely by belief or the Bible, but by those who practice it, one by one. Any person who truly seeks to live the life of a good Christian is a good person, in my book. Those who corrupt it and themselves, though, are common trash.
Denny: WWJD? He'd be full of balls and stay quit. Just keep that in mind. ;)
Although what you say (i.e., "Christianity is defined not solely by belief or the Bible, but by those who practice it...") is true in practice (because we are human sinners), true Christianity is solely defined by the Bible.
Anyway - just today I had three meetings where I introduced myself three times. I guess a person can introduce themselves more than once.
"Ba domp bump bump"
Special Ed - Crank Yankers.
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Abuse of the introduction thread. You are a bad, bad boy DDD. You sir, have committed an affront upon this website not yet seen!
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Abuse of the introduction thread. You are a bad, bad boy DDD. You sir, have committed an affront upon this website not yet seen!
'bang head' I think quitting was easier alone come to think of it
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Abuse of the introduction thread. You are a bad, bad boy DDD. You sir, have committed an affront upon this website not yet seen!
'bang head' I think quitting was easier alone come to think of it
I doubt it.
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I don't doubt that Glenn has some contempt for organized religion, but I also believe he's just being cheeky because Denny has created a buttload of threads in this section. A person can introduce himself only once, after all. One-thread-per-quitter rule. ;)
As for me, I'll take inspiration from any medium. And Christianity is defined not solely by belief or the Bible, but by those who practice it, one by one. Any person who truly seeks to live the life of a good Christian is a good person, in my book. Those who corrupt it and themselves, though, are common trash.
Denny: WWJD? He'd be full of balls and stay quit. Just keep that in mind. ;)
Although what you say (i.e., "Christianity is defined not solely by belief or the Bible, but by those who practice it...") is true in practice (because we are human sinners), true Christianity is solely defined by the Bible.
Anyway - just today I had three meetings where I introduced myself three times. I guess a person can introduce themselves more than once.
1. There's about a billion Catholics who would disagree with you on that one, Michael. ;)
2. Of coooooooourse you can introduce yourself more than once, collectively. But to introduce yourself to the same person (read: "Introductions" reader) more than once is madness/maddening.
3. Denny: Spew the verse, brother, and please let me know if I can help your quit in any way.
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Abuse of the introduction thread. You are a bad, bad boy DDD. You sir, have committed an affront upon this website not yet seen!
'bang head' I think quitting was easier alone come to think of it
I doubt it.
So do I. Just stumbled on this from November '10. Read it DDD.
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Ok I have to say and it may not be my place since I am only day 5 quitter, but I have been sitting here reading all this shit, and here is the low down from my point of view.
I am on day 5 of my quit and I can tell you that if I offered the support and time that everybody on this board gave somebody when they are going threw the shit bad and reach the point of caving and that person takes and asks for help, and everybody drops what there doing to help get them threw it, and that person eventually caved, I would be pissed, I would give them hell, I would expect to have answers to the question of what happend, what are you going to do to make sure it doesn't happen again, and in the end when they have taken there lumps I would still support them though there quit journey again.
Now that being said I can tell you why I said that, because I almost learned it the hard way on day 3 of my quit, Sunday I was so close to caving that I am ashamed to say that went out wasted money and bought a can, but I can proudly say thanks to this board, these people and espcially to D45MURF, RWM, and SHOW I can proudly say that can was never opened till I dumped it smile.gif. I know that if I was to cave I would expect these people to give me hell for it, they invested time on Sunday to save from hell again.
I am not the kind of person that is to ask for help, but on Sunday I found out where the true help is, I txted friends and faimly told them I was in it bad and needed help no responce from any of them. I told this board and txted those 3 guys on the way to the store to buy my I give up can and they responded, (and to be honest I was surprised by it that perfect stangers who dont know me gave there digits and responded when I asked for help saying I can't make it on my own, I wasn't expecting a responce at all, thanks your all my heros) we txted the board posted and got me threw it. I have found out that the only ones that can and will offer you any meaniful support is right here the people that are addicts right there with you.
I owe my life my jaw and my face to these people and if, you want or need my support and if you want somebody that will be there when your going threw the shit bad, PM me and I will give you my digits, but I will tell you this that if you cave and I have given you my support that you will get hell and have to prove yourself to me all over again, but after all that I will still be there to hold you up when you cant stand on your own though it all.
well I have rambled on about this and how important you all and this site is to me and how this has turned out to be my best support network I have ever had. Hopefully this all makes some sort of sence, because I am in my fog in a bad way and in my head it sound like it did. Thanks everybody for the help
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Abuse of the introduction thread. You are a bad, bad boy DDD. You sir, have committed an affront upon this website not yet seen!
'bang head' I think quitting was easier alone come to think of it
I doubt it.
So do I. Just stumbled on this from November '10. Read it DDD.
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Ok I have to say and it may not be my place since I am only day 5 quitter, but I have been sitting here reading all this shit, and here is the low down from my point of view.
I am on day 5 of my quit and I can tell you that if I offered the support and time that everybody on this board gave somebody when they are going threw the shit bad and reach the point of caving and that person takes and asks for help, and everybody drops what there doing to help get them threw it, and that person eventually caved, I would be pissed, I would give them hell, I would expect to have answers to the question of what happend, what are you going to do to make sure it doesn't happen again, and in the end when they have taken there lumps I would still support them though there quit journey again.
Now that being said I can tell you why I said that, because I almost learned it the hard way on day 3 of my quit, Sunday I was so close to caving that I am ashamed to say that went out wasted money and bought a can, but I can proudly say thanks to this board, these people and espcially to D45MURF, RWM, and SHOW I can proudly say that can was never opened till I dumped it smile.gif. I know that if I was to cave I would expect these people to give me hell for it, they invested time on Sunday to save from hell again.
I am not the kind of person that is to ask for help, but on Sunday I found out where the true help is, I txted friends and faimly told them I was in it bad and needed help no responce from any of them. I told this board and txted those 3 guys on the way to the store to buy my I give up can and they responded, (and to be honest I was surprised by it that perfect stangers who dont know me gave there digits and responded when I asked for help saying I can't make it on my own, I wasn't expecting a responce at all, thanks your all my heros) we txted the board posted and got me threw it. I have found out that the only ones that can and will offer you any meaniful support is right here the people that are addicts right there with you.
I owe my life my jaw and my face to these people and if, you want or need my support and if you want somebody that will be there when your going threw the shit bad, PM me and I will give you my digits, but I will tell you this that if you cave and I have given you my support that you will get hell and have to prove yourself to me all over again, but after all that I will still be there to hold you up when you cant stand on your own though it all.
well I have rambled on about this and how important you all and this site is to me and how this has turned out to be my best support network I have ever had. Hopefully this all makes some sort of sence, because I am in my fog in a bad way and in my head it sound like it did. Thanks everybody for the help
For the love of all that is Holy, can some idiot please post some scripture? Thanks.
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Abuse of the introduction thread. You are a bad, bad boy DDD. You sir, have committed an affront upon this website not yet seen!
'bang head' I think quitting was easier alone come to think of it
I doubt it.
So do I. Just stumbled on this from November '10. Read it DDD.
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Ok I have to say and it may not be my place since I am only day 5 quitter, but I have been sitting here reading all this shit, and here is the low down from my point of view.
I am on day 5 of my quit and I can tell you that if I offered the support and time that everybody on this board gave somebody when they are going threw the shit bad and reach the point of caving and that person takes and asks for help, and everybody drops what there doing to help get them threw it, and that person eventually caved, I would be pissed, I would give them hell, I would expect to have answers to the question of what happend, what are you going to do to make sure it doesn't happen again, and in the end when they have taken there lumps I would still support them though there quit journey again.
Now that being said I can tell you why I said that, because I almost learned it the hard way on day 3 of my quit, Sunday I was so close to caving that I am ashamed to say that went out wasted money and bought a can, but I can proudly say thanks to this board, these people and espcially to D45MURF, RWM, and SHOW I can proudly say that can was never opened till I dumped it smile.gif. I know that if I was to cave I would expect these people to give me hell for it, they invested time on Sunday to save from hell again.
I am not the kind of person that is to ask for help, but on Sunday I found out where the true help is, I txted friends and faimly told them I was in it bad and needed help no responce from any of them. I told this board and txted those 3 guys on the way to the store to buy my I give up can and they responded, (and to be honest I was surprised by it that perfect stangers who dont know me gave there digits and responded when I asked for help saying I can't make it on my own, I wasn't expecting a responce at all, thanks your all my heros) we txted the board posted and got me threw it. I have found out that the only ones that can and will offer you any meaniful support is right here the people that are addicts right there with you.
I owe my life my jaw and my face to these people and if, you want or need my support and if you want somebody that will be there when your going threw the shit bad, PM me and I will give you my digits, but I will tell you this that if you cave and I have given you my support that you will get hell and have to prove yourself to me all over again, but after all that I will still be there to hold you up when you cant stand on your own though it all.
well I have rambled on about this and how important you all and this site is to me and how this has turned out to be my best support network I have ever had. Hopefully this all makes some sort of sence, because I am in my fog in a bad way and in my head it sound like it did. Thanks everybody for the help
For the love of all that is Holy, can some idiot please post some scripture? Thanks.
Try Here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3732) - New Verse of the Week Thread
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1. There's about a billion Catholics who would disagree with you on that one, Michael. ;)
Just because there are a billion people believing something, doesn't make it right.
There are a multitude of Catholics who believe molesting young boys is perfectly ok...are they right?
I would still not jump off the Grand Canyon if there were a billion people doing it before me. It would soften the landing, but still be a bitch of a bad time.
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1. There's about a billion Catholics who would disagree with you on that one, Michael. ;)
Just because there are a billion people believing something, doesn't make it right.
There are a multitude of Catholics who believe molesting young boys is perfectly ok...are they right?
I would still not jump off the Grand Canyon if there were a billion people doing it before me. It would soften the landing, but still be a bitch of a bad time.
Technically, I think a billion people would pretty much fill the grand canyon if they jumped in before you, so you'd probably be ok to just walk across. Just saying.
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1. There's about a billion Catholics who would disagree with you on that one, Michael. ;)
Just because there are a billion people believing something, doesn't make it right.
There are a multitude of Catholics who believe molesting young boys is perfectly ok...are they right?
I would still not jump off the Grand Canyon if there were a billion people doing it before me. It would soften the landing, but still be a bitch of a bad time.
Technically, I think a billion people would pretty much fill the grand canyon if they jumped in before you, so you'd probably be ok to just walk across. Just saying.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Technically, I think a billion people would pretty much fill the grand canyon if they jumped in before you, so you'd probably be ok to just walk across. Just saying.
Whoa...according to this guy, it'd take 44 trillion people to fill it up!
http://www.examiner.com/grand-canyon-so ... and-canyon (http://www.examiner.com/grand-canyon-south-rim-in-national/filling-the-grand-canyon)
And...among other interesting facts...
It would take 1 million cows almost 200,000 years to fill the canyon with methane
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I will not consume nicotine today.
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I will not consume nicotine today.
I think that one is from Leviticus