KillTheCan.org Accountability Forum
Community => Introductions => Topic started by: SpencerF on January 20, 2014, 02:45:00 AM
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Been quit now for 11 days, 3 days of detox finally felt better. Now 11 days in I feel so much better.
I went to SAIT in Calgary for power engineering (Homer Simpson's job), got a job in a small town called Rocky Mountain House AB. Got handed a pounce of red man and that was the start, pretty soon it was skoal mint, then Copenhagen, then more and more; everyday I would wake up and pack one. That is when I realized I needed to end the habit. Now I'm 11 days in. Feel free to ask me any questions.
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Take the advice that the vets on here give you. Buy in 100%. Post role every day. Hate the nic bitch. Get numbers for extra support. Use those contacts when it gets tough. Oh, by the way, quit like fuck. Invest in your quit. Have plans for when it gets tough.
I quit with you bro.
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Welcome to quit Spencer. Glad you found the site.
I have a few questions for you.
1. Have you visited the welcome center?
index.php?showforum=13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
2. Have you promised not to use nicotine today?
3. Do you think this thing you describe is a habit? Or an addiction? Your answer could is profoundly important.
Let me know if you need any help navigating the site.
Ryan
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Been quit now for 11 days, 3 days of detox finally felt better. Now 11 days in I feel so much better.
I went to SAIT in Calgary for power engineering (Homer Simpson's job), got a job in a small town called Rocky Mountain House AB. Got handed a pounce of red man and that was the start, pretty soon it was skoal mint, then Copenhagen, then more and more; everyday I would wake up and pack one. That is when I realized I needed to end the habit. Now I'm 11 days in. Feel free to ask me any questions.
Welcome Spencer. Congrats on your quit. Read everything you can on this site. Listen to what people tell you. Get into the chat room. Quit for today, and worry about tomorrow, tomorrow!
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Been quit now for 11 days, 3 days of detox finally felt better. Now 11 days in I feel so much better.
I went to SAIT in Calgary for power engineering (Homer Simpson's job), got a job in a small town called Rocky Mountain House AB. Got handed a pounce of red man and that was the start, pretty soon it was skoal mint, then Copenhagen, then more and more; everyday I would wake up and pack one. That is when I realized I needed to end the habit. Now I'm 11 days in. Feel free to ask me any questions.
Welcome Spencer. Congrats on your quit. Read everything you can on this site. Listen to what people tell you. Get into the chat room. Quit for today, and worry about tomorrow, tomorrow!
Spence,
Welcome, be sure to Post Roll every morning. It is a sacred responsibility for joining ths group. If you have questions, or need help, just ask. We are here to support you. Get your quit on one day at a time!
ZC.
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Hey Spencer,
I am a fellow Canadian, quitting with you in the APRIL - Resolute Bastards
I am a few over in Manitoba, on Day 13.
You have me beat in all regards.
I am only 6'2" 270lb and was 1/3 Can/day for 25 years.
Fight the good fight buddy.
Stay the course.
I am not an expert on this stuff but PM me if you have any questions or concerns.
K9
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Spencer,
Welcome to your new home. IG2H asked you a very important question which is it is it a habit or an addiction. Read read read listen learn. We are not different here our story has been told a thousand times by different people only variables are place and time. Do it the KTC way and you will have a fighting chance do it your way and I assume since you are here you will end up the same way. We quit only once all others are stoppages similar words but miles apart in translation as defined by the culture of our site. PM me if you need anything or questions.
keep your head down and go post roll
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I am glad you found us. Post roll everyday. Help someone on this site everyday. Focus on today. If you will do these things and reach out if you ever need help you shall exceed.
PM me if you need personal assistance.
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Paging Spencer!
Missed you on roll the last two days. You ok?
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Hey Spencer,
Scroll down and revisit the amount of selfless support you got from all of us at the beginning of your quit. Then you pay us back by dropping off the face of the earth, no posts, no roll, no support for fellow members, no text messages, no paying it forward, not a fucking word. Fast forward a few weeks and you come waltzing back to roll as if nothing has happened. Just how stupid do you think we are?
And apparently you've missed all the posts on the main page asking for an explanation, so I'll re-cap it here for you. Don't try to piss down our backs and tell us it's raining. Man up with the real story, or just fuck off and get out.
Zillah
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Also, since you never answered the question....this isn't a habbit. Biting your finger nails, picking your nose, or playing with yourself is a habbit.
This is an ADDICTION. And it's got you by the balls.
Man the fuck up or get the fuck out.
Up to you, sport...
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......playing with yourself is a habbit.
I just crossed another thing of my "addicted to" list.
Win win for me
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Now I'm 11 days in. Feel free to ask me any questions.
Spencer, I am going to take you up on your offer from your intro post ^^^^
1) Where were you for 3 weeks?
2) Why did you fail to keep the commitment to post roll to hold yourself accountable as well as to acknowledge and hold those accountable in your group?
3) People took time out of their own days and from there own families to reach out to you? Do you take this lightly or understand that they are disappointed and feel blown off? What are you going to do about it?
4) Do you realize that volunteers in our group spent their own time scanning roll making sure you were not bumped and attempting to support you in maintaining our group's spreadsheet?
5) Can we count on you to keep your word and post roll at least through your HOF date?
Make no mistake, we want you quit, but we have also made a commitment to ourselves and others when we posted roll for the first time. Brotherhood + Accountability = Success.
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I am disheartened by the fact that someone could let all of the supportive people here down.
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I disappeared off of here for the three weeks because of dealing with an issue with one of my friends that I don't want to talk about here. As well as the nasty weather at work and my apartment.
I know it was selfish but I needed to deal with the things happening in my life and focus on those issues.
For your info my friend is dong better and I will leave it at that.
Work..... The weather kicks us in our ass. The cold causes issues everywhere, I didn't go a shift with out having haul steam hoses out to thaw something out. With the cold weather upsets were happening almost daily, flaring gas or dealin with frozen sulphur plants (jamming a red hot rod six feet into a vessel to break frozen sulphur to get hot sulphur to flow)
The cold also froze a pipe in my apartment forcing me to sleep in my truck running for a night since there was no heat and no stores open to buy heaters.
I am still here I just had to focus on my life.
Thanks you all for the support.
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I disappeared off of here for the three weeks because of dealing with an issue with one of my friends that I don't want to talk about here. As well as the nasty weather at work and my apartment.
I know it was selfish but I needed to deal with the things happening in my life and focus on those issues.
For your info my friend is dong better and I will leave it at that.
Work..... The weather kicks us in our ass. The cold causes issues everywhere, I didn't go a shift with out having haul steam hoses out to thaw something out. With the cold weather upsets were happening almost daily, flaring gas or dealin with frozen sulphur plants (jamming a red hot rod six feet into a vessel to break frozen sulphur to get hot sulphur to flow)
The cold also froze a pipe in my apartment forcing me to sleep in my truck running for a night since there was no heat and no stores open to buy heaters.
I am still here I just had to focus on my life.
Thanks you all for the support.
Let me see here...
Your friends need more attention than my friends and my brothers and sisters, my parents, my wife, and my kids.
Your job is tougher than my job.
Your weather is worse than..... oh holy fuck, your post was so fucking annoying.
Do you have any idea what a bitch you sound like?
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I disappeared off of here for the three weeks because of dealing with an issue with one of my friends that I don't want to talk about here. As well as the nasty weather at work and my apartment.
I know it was selfish but I needed to deal with the things happening in my life and focus on those issues.
For your info my friend is dong better and I will leave it at that.
Work..... The weather kicks us in our ass. The cold causes issues everywhere, I didn't go a shift with out having haul steam hoses out to thaw something out. With the cold weather upsets were happening almost daily, flaring gas or dealin with frozen sulphur plants (jamming a red hot rod six feet into a vessel to break frozen sulphur to get hot sulphur to flow)
The cold also froze a pipe in my apartment forcing me to sleep in my truck running for a night since there was no heat and no stores open to buy heaters.
I am still here I just had to focus on my life.
Thanks you all for the support.
Let me see here...
Your friends need more attention than my friends and my brothers and sisters, my parents, my wife, and my kids.
Your job is tougher than my job.
Your weather is worse than..... oh holy fuck, your post was so fucking annoying.
Do you have any idea what a bitch you sound like?
My phone doesn't work in the cold, or the hospital or when my friends are asleep either.
Figure it the fuck out. Did anyone text, email or send you private messages during those 3 weeks. It would be a shame if they did and you didn't answer. That would be energy wasted that could have been spent on a Day 1r.
I'm sure you weren't given any contact #s either. You know someone who you could have sent a text or given a call and said.. "hey i got some shit happening can you help me post roll?" oh wait thats right.. those numbers would not work because the phone was cold, or behind some kind of magic wall or snoring was limiting the cell tower signal.
Kleenex box is right. You sound like a huge bitch.
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I disappeared off of here for the three weeks because of dealing with an issue with one of my friends that I don't want to talk about here. As well as the nasty weather at work and my apartment.
I know it was selfish but I needed to deal with the things happening in my life and focus on those issues.
For your info my friend is dong better and I will leave it at that.
Work..... The weather kicks us in our ass. The cold causes issues everywhere, I didn't go a shift with out having haul steam hoses out to thaw something out. With the cold weather upsets were happening almost daily, flaring gas or dealin with frozen sulphur plants (jamming a red hot rod six feet into a vessel to break frozen sulphur to get hot sulphur to flow)
The cold also froze a pipe in my apartment forcing me to sleep in my truck running for a night since there was no heat and no stores open to buy heaters.
I am still here I just had to focus on my life.
Thanks you all for the support.
Let me see here...
Your friends need more attention than my friends and my brothers and sisters, my parents, my wife, and my kids.
Your job is tougher than my job.
Your weather is worse than..... oh holy fuck, your post was so fucking annoying.
Do you have any idea what a bitch you sound like?
Spencer,
The only word that sticks out in your message is the word "selfish". In other words....How many fellow April quitters have you helped and encouraged over the last 2 months? How many newbs have you helped navigate the Welcome Center? How many KTC texts have you sent or received? How many messages have you posted on your Intro? Well, the answer to all of the above questions is a big fat fucking ZERO. If you're going to disappear for weeks on end, and do none of the above, then you probably don't have the the spirit, determination or commitment to be here at this time in your life.
Oh, and also...in your post below...you never even mentioned whether you're still quit or not.
ZC
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Why waste this groups time? I'm sure you have better things to do. This is not part time KTC quit. This is balls to the wall and save your life KTC quit. Go check out the quit lite website. Maybe they will coddle your balls every couple of weeks when you decide to show up.
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I disappeared off of here for the three weeks because of dealing with an issue with one of my friends that I don't want to talk about here. As well as the nasty weather at work and my apartment.
I know it was selfish but I needed to deal with the things happening in my life and focus on those issues.
For your info my friend is dong better and I will leave it at that.
Work..... The weather kicks us in our ass. The cold causes issues everywhere, I didn't go a shift with out having haul steam hoses out to thaw something out. With the cold weather upsets were happening almost daily, flaring gas or dealin with frozen sulphur plants (jamming a red hot rod six feet into a vessel to break frozen sulphur to get hot sulphur to flow)
The cold also froze a pipe in my apartment forcing me to sleep in my truck running for a night since there was no heat and no stores open to buy heaters.
I am still here I just had to focus on my life.
Thanks you all for the support.
Friends trouble, red hot rods, frozen factiles, steam hoses, flaring gas, sulphur plants, knives, grinders, bed posts, door knobs, etc..
What the fuck?
Add all that up and you get one hot steaming pile of bullshit.
Performance not excuses. Get it on or bang a gong and get the fuck out and quit wasting the time of fine quitters, trying to help you.
There is ALWAYS time for quit.
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I disappeared off of here for the three weeks because of dealing with an issue with one of my friends that I don't want to talk about here. As well as the nasty weather at work and my apartment.
I know it was selfish but I needed to deal with the things happening in my life and focus on those issues.
For your info my friend is dong better and I will leave it at that.
Work..... The weather kicks us in our ass. The cold causes issues everywhere, I didn't go a shift with out having haul steam hoses out to thaw something out. With the cold weather upsets were happening almost daily, flaring gas or dealin with frozen sulphur plants (jamming a red hot rod six feet into a vessel to break frozen sulphur to get hot sulphur to flow)
The cold also froze a pipe in my apartment forcing me to sleep in my truck running for a night since there was no heat and no stores open to buy heaters.
I am still here I just had to focus on my life.
Thanks you all for the support.
Bullshit, all of it. There is one gaping hole in your explanation: why you "had" to leave KTC. As was stated in our group - it takes 30 SECONDS to post roll. There is no excuse for how this could get in the way of your "stressful life", especially since you sucked at posting even before you took your little vacation.
Off the top of my head I can think of numerous members of the Resolute Bastards who have lost family members, pets, gone through job loss and threats of job loss, yet not one of them takes time off because "KTC gets in the way". No, "quitting" got in the way, didn't it?
You don't belong with this group. We quit here. Even the members who are not as active on the site, they do the one thing you have to do, post their promise Every Damn Day. The April 14 group belongs to the Resolute Bastards, and we are a collective of fine quitters who take this seriously. Clearly you don't.
There are only two possibilities here:
1 - You caved and used nicotine. Your whole post screams it, and it would be my best guess. In that case a real man would fess up and go back to day 1.
2 - You really do have the audacity to leave unannounced and think it's ok to completely disrespect the site and the quitters here by coming back with excuses that we all fight through. You don't take us or this quit seriously, and you can get the fuck out.
I say again, why are you here? What do you get from this besides your false sense of brotherhood?
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You can say bullshit if you want but when a friend calls you at 4am saying he is at the end of his rope you get in your truck and go there, I forgot about everything at the point I was on a sterch of three day off so I was able to stay there and keep him until I was able to convince him to see a shrink.
My friend we have known each other since before we were born out moms went to baby and me classes. His birthday was yesterday the 18th and mine is tomorrow the 20th he was suicidal, I drove 2 hours after nights to Calgary to keep him calm and try and convince him to get help. He has now gotten on a mix of pills that keep him balanced but I check in on him everyday to make sure he is still feeling okay.
(https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152000283468587&id=713448586&set=pb.713448586&source=49)
Does that look like bullshit, sour liquids spraying 20" feet from a ruptured line.
*i do not want to post this picture publicly on Facebook as there is "paperwork" still open resulting from this night I can PM anyone this image*
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You know what dude? I get it. Shit happens. Life happens. It ain't fun, and it is usually a giant fucking pain in the ass. But that is still no. fucking. excuse. for not posting roll. I understand, there were important things that needed taking care of. KTC might have been driven from your mind for a bit. But was there never a time where you thought about it? Was there never a single opportunity for you to post roll? Was there never one moment where you could have texted somebody and asked them to post roll for you? Missing roll is simply unacceptable if you have a good network on KTC, and while I get that you had a lot of shit on your plate, that doesn't mean it was alright to just skip roll for three weeks. That is never ok.
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You know what dude? I get it. Shit happens. Life happens. It ain't fun, and it is usually a giant fucking pain in the ass. But that is still no. fucking. excuse. for not posting roll. I understand, there were important things that needed taking care of. KTC might have been driven from your mind for a bit. But was there never a time where you thought about it? Was there never a single opportunity for you to post roll? Was there never one moment where you could have texted somebody and asked them to post roll for you? Missing roll is simply unacceptable if you have a good network on KTC, and while I get that you had a lot of shit on your plate, that doesn't mean it was alright to just skip roll for three weeks. That is never ok.
Post roll every damn day or text somebody to do it for you. Im sick and tired of people joining KTC, where our method of quit is to post roll, and thinking they can do it there own way. If you dont need the site, if you dont want to be held accountable, then go away. Other wise, be a man and follow the rules. This isnt rocket science and your not special. Post roll every damn day and keep your word.
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You know what dude? I get it. Shit happens. Life happens. It ain't fun, and it is usually a giant fucking pain in the ass. But that is still no. fucking. excuse. for not posting roll. I understand, there were important things that needed taking care of. KTC might have been driven from your mind for a bit. But was there never a time where you thought about it? Was there never a single opportunity for you to post roll? Was there never one moment where you could have texted somebody and asked them to post roll for you? Missing roll is simply unacceptable if you have a good network on KTC, and while I get that you had a lot of shit on your plate, that doesn't mean it was alright to just skip roll for three weeks. That is never ok.
Post roll every damn day or text somebody to do it for you. Im sick and tired of people joining KTC, where our method of quit is to post roll, and thinking they can do it there own way. If you dont need the site, if you dont want to be held accountable, then go away. Other wise, be a man and follow the rules. This isnt rocket science and your not special. Post roll every damn day and keep your word.
WG is right....this isn't the right place for people that want to check in periodically or disappear when a life event happens. They can post combative bullshit excuses all they want. I am sure there are other websites/forums that support this. KTC is the wrong place.
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You know what dude? I get it. Shit happens. Life happens. It ain't fun, and it is usually a giant fucking pain in the ass. But that is still no. fucking. excuse. for not posting roll. I understand, there were important things that needed taking care of. KTC might have been driven from your mind for a bit. But was there never a time where you thought about it? Was there never a single opportunity for you to post roll? Was there never one moment where you could have texted somebody and asked them to post roll for you? Missing roll is simply unacceptable if you have a good network on KTC, and while I get that you had a lot of shit on your plate, that doesn't mean it was alright to just skip roll for three weeks. That is never ok.
Post roll every damn day or text somebody to do it for you. Im sick and tired of people joining KTC, where our method of quit is to post roll, and thinking they can do it there own way. If you dont need the site, if you dont want to be held accountable, then go away. Other wise, be a man and follow the rules. This isnt rocket science and your not special. Post roll every damn day and keep your word.
WG is right....this isn't the right place for people that want to check in periodically or disappear when a life event happens. They can post combative bullshit excuses all they want. I am sure there are other websites/forums that support this. KTC is the wrong place.
I agree with the gentlemen above and below. I am not sensing the commitment going forward Spencer. We all have lives going on, you flat out failed to follow the program you committed to following. Is that going to change, or will you simply disappear when the next "life challenge" occurs? Trust level is way down here as I think Knockout expressed quite well below.
What's the truth and what is it going to be going forward?
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You can say bullshit if you want but when a friend calls you at 4am saying he is at the end of his rope you get in your truck and go there, I forgot about everything at the point I was on a sterch of three day off so I was able to stay there and keep him until I was able to convince him to see a shrink.
My friend we have known each other since before we were born out moms went to baby and me classes. His birthday was yesterday the 18th and mine is tomorrow the 20th he was suicidal, I drove 2 hours after nights to Calgary to keep him calm and try and convince him to get help. He has now gotten on a mix of pills that keep him balanced but I check in on him everyday to make sure he is still feeling okay.
(https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152000283468587&id=713448586&set=pb.713448586&source=49)
Does that look like bullshit, sour liquids spraying 20" feet from a ruptured line.
*i do not want to post this picture publicly on Facebook as there is "paperwork" still open resulting from this night I can PM anyone this image*
Knockout asks you specifically whether you chewed during your KTC vacation, and you did not respond. In my book that is a yes.
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You can say bullshit if you want but when a friend calls you at 4am saying he is at the end of his rope you get in your truck and go there, I forgot about everything at the point I was on a sterch of three day off so I was able to stay there and keep him until I was able to convince him to see a shrink.
My friend we have known each other since before we were born out moms went to baby and me classes. His birthday was yesterday the 18th and mine is tomorrow the 20th he was suicidal, I drove 2 hours after nights to Calgary to keep him calm and try and convince him to get help. He has now gotten on a mix of pills that keep him balanced but I check in on him everyday to make sure he is still feeling okay.
(https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152000283468587&id=713448586&set=pb.713448586&source=49)
Does that look like bullshit, sour liquids spraying 20" feet from a ruptured line.
*i do not want to post this picture publicly on Facebook as there is "paperwork" still open resulting from this night I can PM anyone this image*
Knockout asks you specifically whether you chewed during your KTC vacation, and you did not respond. In my book that is a yes.
I FUCKED UP.
No bullshit,
My friend was suicidal, and I placed this on the back burned.....way the fuck back there.
He called one day at 4 am and I forgot this and alot of other things that day.
It was selfish, I know. But my friend and I have known each for almost 23 years and Im only 22, (our moms went to the same first baby/baby and me classes) so this bond was not one that was going to break very easily. He needed me there.............
Now I know that there are guys in here that need me here to, because it is just as serious as my friend.
I write this fighting back tears that will come.... I ask that you will give me a chance. and if you dont want to give me a second chance then I will in peace.
Anyone can call me xxxxxxxx (don't give out your number in public in the Internet----Use PM, signed Yota) that is my home phone number there is an answering machine, if all people want to do is call and give me shit then so be it, I get home from work tomorrow around 8:30pm
SpencerF
Posted in April 14
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You know what dude? I get it. Shit happens. Life happens. It ain't fun, and it is usually a giant fucking pain in the ass. But that is still no. fucking. excuse. for not posting roll. I understand, there were important things that needed taking care of. KTC might have been driven from your mind for a bit. But was there never a time where you thought about it? Was there never a single opportunity for you to post roll? Was there never one moment where you could have texted somebody and asked them to post roll for you? Missing roll is simply unacceptable if you have a good network on KTC, and while I get that you had a lot of shit on your plate, that doesn't mean it was alright to just skip roll for three weeks. That is never ok.
Post roll every damn day or text somebody to do it for you. Im sick and tired of people joining KTC, where our method of quit is to post roll, and thinking they can do it there own way. If you dont need the site, if you dont want to be held accountable, then go away. Other wise, be a man and follow the rules. This isnt rocket science and your not special. Post roll every damn day and keep your word.
I think this post pretty much sums up my opinion on the matter. ^
It's simple Spencer, beating this addiction is important to you or it isn't. I told you in our conversation last night, you're #1 on the shit list for your blatant disrespect of everyone here.
A part of me wants to go on an absolute tirade about how you don't even remotely deserve to enter the HOF with the group, but if you are still quit and truly want to be here, 30 days straight of posting would be a good way to show it.
You asked for a second chance. It's only with the realization that second chances have saved my own life on numerous occasions that my opinion slightly waivers from the original now.
You want a chance? Post roll every day. You quit Jan 10 with K9, Sever, Peters and I. That means you are on day 70. I challenge you to post 100% from now until day 100. If you can't do that, the most basic request here, then you really should fuck off and not waste any of our time.
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You know what dude? I get it. Shit happens. Life happens. It ain't fun, and it is usually a giant fucking pain in the ass. But that is still no. fucking. excuse. for not posting roll. I understand, there were important things that needed taking care of. KTC might have been driven from your mind for a bit. But was there never a time where you thought about it? Was there never a single opportunity for you to post roll? Was there never one moment where you could have texted somebody and asked them to post roll for you? Missing roll is simply unacceptable if you have a good network on KTC, and while I get that you had a lot of shit on your plate, that doesn't mean it was alright to just skip roll for three weeks. That is never ok.
Post roll every damn day or text somebody to do it for you. Im sick and tired of people joining KTC, where our method of quit is to post roll, and thinking they can do it there own way. If you dont need the site, if you dont want to be held accountable, then go away. Other wise, be a man and follow the rules. This isnt rocket science and your not special. Post roll every damn day and keep your word.
I think this post pretty much sums up my opinion on the matter. ^
It's simple Spencer, beating this addiction is important to you or it isn't. I told you in our conversation last night, you're #1 on the shit list for your blatant disrespect of everyone here.
A part of me wants to go on an absolute tirade about how you don't even remotely deserve to enter the HOF with the group, but if you are still quit and truly want to be here, 30 days straight of posting would be a good way to show it.
You asked for a second chance. It's only with the realization that second chances have saved my own life on numerous occasions that my opinion slightly waivers from the original now.
You want a chance? Post roll every day. You quit Jan 10 with K9, Sever, Peters and I. That means you are on day 70. I challenge you to post 100% from now until day 100. If you can't do that, the most basic request here, then you really should fuck off and not waste any of our time.
One more thing Spencer...
You have been asked 3 times by different folks whether you stayed quit during your vacation from KTC. And you have evaded answering that question. All I've read from you is blubbering girlish drama, excuses, statements that you fucked up, and that you want a 2nd chance. Almost sounds like a caver to me.
If you want back in to this group you must publicly answer one question: Did you stay quit during your time away? If you did not, you go back to Day 1. If you did stay quit and you wake the fuck up and start posting roll every day, you can remain. Let's hear your straight answer without any bullshit.
ZC
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Spencer, see you have posted roll since reappearing, I know you had a lengthy discussion with KO. Keep it up! If you could answer ZC's question, by confirm you did not use nic during your absence we can get back to doing this ODAAT from my perspective. Seems like that is what you are trying to do. Let's beat the bitch!
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Spencer, you gotta participate man. You owe me and these other fine quitters below an answer on whether you remained quit on your 'hiatus'. Embrace the philosophy here and we'll welcome you back with open arms, and together we can keep putting coal in the boiler of our badass quit train we got rolling here. Otherwise, you might as well sign off and go snuggle up with your can-o-lies somewhere. There are plenty of people here that could use (and actually want) our help with their quits.
What's it gonna be? Blue Pill or the Red Pill?
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Spencer, you gotta participate man. You owe me and these other fine quitters below an answer on whether you remained quit on your 'hiatus'. Embrace the philosophy here and we'll welcome you back with open arms, and together we can keep putting coal in the boiler of our badass quit train we got rolling here. Otherwise, you might as well sign off and go snuggle up with your can-o-lies somewhere. There are plenty of people here that could use (and actually want) our help with their quits.
What's it gonna be? Blue Pill or the Red Pill?
Brotherhood... If it is yes that will be dealt with to get you on track if it is No then that will be dealt with to keep you on track. I'm new but believe in the brotherhood of the quit. Please answer the question because a non answer becomes an answer and the brotherhood is made up of people that are honest and do not lie or mislead each other .... even if we do screw up. But I feel in this group that lying or not answering will not be tolerated for the good of the brotherhood. So, if you are a brother either way the answer goes be a brother, be a man that I can stand beside in battle and feel your quit is worth helping you fight for it... before the guys here, the vets, make their own determination by your failing to answer and ban you.
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Is the purpose of KTC to provide support for those wanting to quit or is KTC a forum to vent and say things most would not to each other face to face. I get posting roll. I also understand things happen. Not posting roll or checking in for 3 weeks honestly should not be acceptable at all. Start from day one and knock it out of the park. For everyone else I ask "Did his not posting for three weeks disrupt your life?" Probably not, so quit acting like you lost your way because of his not posting roll. I am confident at 80 Days that I will never dip again. I keep getting on here to post because I support my group. Seeing grown men argue is sad and frankly not worth it.
Spencer, life happens. I hope your friend is okay and life is back on track. KTC has only one requirement. POST ROLL. Missing a day here and there especially with all our BUMP happy brother seem not right but tolerable. I am guilty. Three weeks regardless of the reason is in all fairness not acceptable. Please join the newest group and post Day 1. That will help KTC maintain its accountibility and standards.
The idea is to keep encouraging our brothers and sisters while maintaining the KTC standard. For everyone here at KTC, I do not see any reasons to play games or curse to no end.
There is my two cents for whatever it is worth. I am not the web master or admin but feel this is a more acceptable way of handling these types of issues.
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No further explanation needed. Post DAY 1 in June. Any other way would go against rule #1 - Post ROLL. Post DAY 1 and do your part to maintain the accountibility offered by KTC.
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No further explanation needed. Post DAY 1 in June. Any other way would go against rule #1 - Post ROLL. Post DAY 1 and do your part to maintain the accountibility offered by KTC.
Um, you only go back to day 1 if you used nicotine (caved). Please do NOT post day 1 if you have not used nicotine.
PS - life happens, and will continue to happen, regardless of you quitting tobacco and other nicotine or not. You have to choose how much you want to break the chain, and I can guaran-damn-tee you need to be 100% committed to it regardless of what else life throws at you. I have posted roll 100% of my 1150+ days here, and that includes my youngest son being hospitalized 3 different times for 3-7 days, my father being in ICU 2x and eventually passing away, the birth of my youngest son, weddings, funerals, vacation, working 80+ hour weeks (probably not in as dangerous an occupation as you, no doubt, but field service electrical and mechanical maintenance work in steel mills, refineries, chem plants, power plants, paper mills, etc is no picnic either), and a bunch of other shit. Posting roll is a sign of that commitment not just to your brothers here, but to yourself.
You didnt get here by accident, you didnt quit by accident, and we dont frankly give a shit about excuses for not posting roll. If you stick around and get involved, your brothers WILL give a shit about YOU, and what is going on in your life, so long as you give and keep your word that you will NOT use nicotine in any way, shape or form today. You do that by posting roll every day, come hell or high water.
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Is the purpose of KTC to provide support for those wanting to quit or is KTC a forum to vent and say things most would not to each other face to face. I get posting roll. I also understand things happen. Not posting roll or checking in for 3 weeks honestly should not be acceptable at all. Start from day one and knock it out of the park. For everyone else I ask "Did his not posting for three weeks disrupt your life?" Probably not, so quit acting like you lost your way because of his not posting roll. I am confident at 80 Days that I will never dip again. I keep getting on here to post because I support my group. Seeing grown men argue is sad and frankly not worth it.
Spencer, life happens. I hope your friend is okay and life is back on track. KTC has only one requirement. POST ROLL. Missing a day here and there especially with all our BUMP happy brother seem not right but tolerable. I am guilty. Three weeks regardless of the reason is in all fairness not acceptable. Please join the newest group and post Day 1. That will help KTC maintain its accountibility and standards.
The idea is to keep encouraging our brothers and sisters while maintaining the KTC standard. For everyone here at KTC, I do not see any reasons to play games or curse to no end.
There is my two cents for whatever it is worth. I am not the web master or admin but feel this is a more acceptable way of handling these types of issues.
As far as I know, the purpose of being here is both to find support AND a place to vent.
But I was not riding Spencer just to vent, I was riding him because he is making lame excuses for his addictive behavior, and he has not stated whether or not he chewed (though there is no doubt in my mind, I would still be curious what he said).
"Did his not posting for three weeks disrupt your life?" - NO, but then again, you are the person stating that "Seeing grown men argue is sad and frankly not worth it." Who is being overly sensitive? You can't handle arguments and strong language? So I guess we should all walk around on egg shells around you, and don't yell at poor Spencer, he of the difficult job, and who visited his ailing friend on a different planet without internet.
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Am I the only one here who just wants an answer to if he caved or not and the reason why if he did?
Forget the arguing. If one caves, explaining why to the group is an expectation. Otherwise, we'd all join hands and sing kumbaya without caring that someone caved.
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We all are familiar with our own addict minds. It's pretty reasonable to want an answer. I know what it would mean if I didn't answer. Until confirmed otherwise, the safest assumption is the bad news is true. The question is, are you gonna nut up and deal with the situation or run from it?
Everybody's waiting......
'Popcorn'
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We all are familiar with our own addict minds. It's pretty reasonable to want an answer. I know what it would mean if I didn't answer.   Until confirmed otherwise, the safest assumption is the bad news is true. The question is, are you gonna nut up and deal with the situation or run from it?Â
Everybody's waiting......
'Popcorn'
He has 56 posts for 70 days of quit. I don't think he is sticking around to read much of ANYTHING!
I wish you the best of luck on your quit Spencer......it just seems like a recipe for a cave.
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To those who disagree with my previous comments, like I said its my two cents. I do not support SpencerF actions. I agree with everyone who is upset with him. I disagree with the tantrums and beating of your chests. If the guy can not answer a few reasonable questions to our April Quit group then revoke membership until he does.
Keep Calm and Carry On. It's not worth the anger some of you are displaying.
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To those who disagree with my previous comments, like I said its my two cents. I do not support SpencerF actions. I agree with everyone who is upset with him. I disagree with the tantrums and beating of your chests. If the guy can not answer a few reasonable questions to our April Quit group then revoke membership until he does.
Keep Calm and Carry On. It's not worth the anger some of you are displaying.
USCG77- I understand your feelings. I learned early one that it is not anger that drives the comments ... it is rage invoked by nicotine.
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To those who disagree with my previous comments, like I said its my two cents. I do not support SpencerF actions. I agree with everyone who is upset with him. I disagree with the tantrums and beating of your chests. If the guy can not answer a few reasonable questions to our April Quit group then revoke membership until he does.
Keep Calm and Carry On. It's not worth the anger some of you are displaying.
USCG77- I understand your feelings. I learned early one that it is not anger that drives the comments ... it is rage invoked by nicotine.
It is anger Emulator and it damn well should be, your brother is pissing all over the accountability and integrity that KTC demands. He is not the first and certainly not the last. A brother you've been walking the road with and you guys are coming up on your HOF month, you just don't want to believe that he may have either lied to you or failed the group and himself.
He obviously has not made any great effort to right this ship and probably won't, be it shame or just plain not wanting it bad enough. The most important thing is to not let it take you down as well, band together with your brothers that post everyday.
Quit on!
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To those who disagree with my previous comments, like I said its my two cents. I do not support SpencerF actions. I agree with everyone who is upset with him. I disagree with the tantrums and beating of your chests. If the guy can not answer a few reasonable questions to our April Quit group then revoke membership until he does.
Keep Calm and Carry On. It's not worth the anger some of you are displaying.
USCG77- I understand your feelings. I learned early one that it is not anger that drives the comments ... it is rage invoked by nicotine.
It is anger Emulator and it damn well should be, your brother is pissing all over the accountability and integrity that KTC demands. He is not the first and certainly not the last. A brother you've been walking the road with and you guys are coming up on your HOF month, you just don't want to believe that he may have either lied to you or failed the group and himself.
He obviously has not made any great effort to right this ship and probably won't, be it shame or just plain not wanting it bad enough. The most important thing is to not let it take you down as well, band together with your brothers that post everyday.
Quit on!
What he said ^^^^^
Get ANGRY. DEMAND more.. If this person truly is your brother then he is not only pissing on you by ignoring you, but you need to do all you can to help him.
Don't always confuse getting angry with nic rage. You gotta stop pinning every thing on nicotine. Getting angry at someon you care about is a natural emotion. One that someone who hadn't touched nicotine a day in his life would feel.
You get invested in people around here. Don't be afraid to get some passion going and light some ass up, if you think one of your investments is about to derail. It may be the only way to get it back on track.
Quit on...
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Spencer, remember that "proving you want to be here". You are being asked a simple question by a lot of people (here and in your intro), and are evading it like a child. Answer it and you'll have a whole lot of people off your back.
This won't go away.
I have answered it and I have not had a dip since my quit day 2014/01/10. There have been days when I have wanted one but have resisted the urge.
Cleaned out the bottom in my locker at work and found two old full tins went and dumped them in the garbage in the lunch room. Also found 4 pressure gauges, 8 pieces of pipe, random unions, pipe wrenches, tubing fittings, 3 rolls of ducttape. Now I know my locker is cleaned out of any leftovers and now I know what tools I have in there.
I am working nights tomorrow. I will be on around 9:30 after my rounds are done and everything is running smooth. Might also be on around noon when I wake up.
From the April roll call.
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To those who disagree with my previous comments, like I said its my two cents. I do not support SpencerF actions. I agree with everyone who is upset with him. I disagree with the tantrums and beating of your chests. If the guy can not answer a few reasonable questions to our April Quit group then revoke membership until he does.
Keep Calm and Carry On. It's not worth the anger some of you are displaying.
USCG77- I understand your feelings. I learned early one that it is not anger that drives the comments ... it is rage invoked by nicotine.
It is anger Emulator and it damn well should be, your brother is pissing all over the accountability and integrity that KTC demands. He is not the first and certainly not the last. A brother you've been walking the road with and you guys are coming up on your HOF month, you just don't want to believe that he may have either lied to you or failed the group and himself.
He obviously has not made any great effort to right this ship and probably won't, be it shame or just plain not wanting it bad enough. The most important thing is to not let it take you down as well, band together with your brothers that post everyday.
Quit on!
What he said ^^^^^
Get ANGRY. DEMAND more.. If this person truly is your brother then he is not only pissing on you by ignoring you, but you need to do all you can to help him.
Don't always confuse getting angry with nic rage. You gotta stop pinning every thing on nicotine. Getting angry at someon you care about is a natural emotion. One that someone who hadn't touched nicotine a day in his life would feel.
You get invested in people around here. Don't be afraid to get some passion going and light some ass up, if you think one of your investments is about to derail. It may be the only way to get it back on track.
Quit on... [/
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SpencerF - Day 80 - I need a crash course in using a forum.
Seriously after 80 days??
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Keep it up Mr. 91!
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Spencer, congrats on 100 days of freedom!
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Congrats on hitting the hall.
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Congratulations Spencer. Staying quit through heinous shit in life is not easy, but here you are at 100. Enjoy the day and keep up the good quit.