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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Braker on February 02, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
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Hey everyone,
I started dipping when I was 16 and I turn 21 in May. I've tried quitting before but I always fell back into the trap and felt guilty and was always paranoid I had cancer. Tonight I decided that I'm better than that. A fraternity brother asked me why I dipped and I couldnt think of a good reason. It kind of struck me deep.
My mom told me her biggest fear was that I would call home from college and tell her something was wrong. I thought about that every time I put a dip in.
I read the website and I know it said people could come on here and piss and moan but I want to ask to be sure. Can I come on here and rant and rave and piss and moan? The last couple times I tried quitting I just wanted someone to talk to about it and no one would hear me out.
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There is no good reason to dip. Plain and simple. Pissing and moaning is encouraged here. Every second your are bitching to us is another second you are not using nicotine. Any of us will talk to you about what you are going through. That's why we are here. We are all in this together, whether you have 1 day quit or 1,000. We are all working towards the same continuous goal of freedom from nicotine.
Go post you Day 1 in May. You can read about how to do that at this link : index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50).
You can also read about what roll means here: index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
Read as much as you can on this site, post your roll everyday, keep your word, ask questions, take advice, and you WILL be successful. I sent you a message through Personal Messenger, check your Inbox (1) at the top right of the screen. Get some gum or some sunflower seeds and get ready to feel like shit for about a week. It will be hard, but it WILL get easier. Now, go post your day 1 and stay quit.
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Sup guys,
I've been dipping since I was 12 and for the past 15 years I've been addicted to the can. Switch from Skoal, to Cope and for the past 3 years I've been using Kodiak. Dip for various reason like the rest of us had. Either to relax from stress, escape the daily grind, or to fit in.
I knew I had to stop when I notice myself packing a lip first thing when I woke up. Plus, girls don't like guys who dip and the dating scene is hard enough as it is. Want to create a new chapter in my life and say good bye to the old me. This is the last part of my past and it ends today.
My mother died of mouth cancer when she was only 55 and my grandfather and grandmother died of cancer also from smoking. I know if I don't change now it will be to late.
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"Piss and moaning" are about the nicest things you could do. It is the fight of your life...the stakes could not be higher.
You take the first step, and everyone on this site is here to help you the rest of the way. So, give us your worst...tell us we suck, or you suck, or life sucks, whatever...just post roll and keep your word. That's all there is to it.
Read all you can. The Kern Family story was especially touching to me...find the one that you identify with. But the secret is that all of our stories are very similar. Almost everybody started as a teenager and is now fighting that bad decision everyday.
Glad to have you. Tell us more about you and your quit. Stay strong, brother!
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I go to college at a four year university. Im studying Optical Engineering and I have a job this summer working on Directed Energy and Laser Weaponry. This job is the goal of my life
Today I gave a presentation to the president of my school on why he should convert all on-campus vehicle to electric. The whole presentation i was just in a fog. I wasnt getting distracted or thinking about other things, I just couldn't think. I couldnt hold any thought process for more than 30- 40 seconds (I still cant but now i dont really have to). Luckily my partner is a good friend and a fraternity brother of mine. He bailed me out so many times and afterward asked me why I was mentally retarded for the last hour. I told him i quit and i was withdrawing from nicotine. He fuckin high fived me. I just made the biggest presentation of his college career so much harder because , lets be honest, i was useless, and he responded by high five and saying "never look back". BTW, apparently the president loved our speech.
Sunflower seeds have saved me today. Luckily I posted roll, that means I made a promise, and my Mama didnt raise no bitch. A promise made is a promise kept. No nicotine today boys.
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I go to college at a four year university. Im studying Optical Engineering and I have a job this summer working on Directed Energy and Laser Weaponry. This job is the goal of my life
Today I gave a presentation to the president of my school on why he should convert all on-campus vehicle to electric. The whole presentation i was just in a fog. I wasnt getting distracted or thinking about other things, I just couldn't think. I couldnt hold any thought process for more than 30- 40 seconds (I still cant but now i dont really have to). Luckily my partner is a good friend and a fraternity brother of mine. He bailed me out so many times and afterward asked me why I was mentally retarded for the last hour. I told him i quit and i was withdrawing from nicotine. He fuckin high fived me. I just made the biggest presentation of his college career so much harder because , lets be honest, i was useless, and he responded by high five and saying "never look back". BTW, apparently the president loved our speech.
Sunflower seeds have saved me today. Luckily I posted roll, that means I made a promise, and my Mama didnt raise no bitch. A promise made is a promise kept. No nicotine today boys.
What you are experiencing is what we refer to as "the fog". It will mess with you, but it is temporary. It's the worst here for the next few days until the poison is out of your body. After that, it's slightly easier.
I like to think about a pendulum when I think about my quit mood.
You have pulled the pendulum over to the "Shitty" side and let go. It takes some time and energy for it to move over to the "Life is good side". It's not an overnight process, and it's not an immediate conversion.
Your quit is going to be like this your entire life. Sometimes, quitting is shitty. Sometimes, it's easy. It's going to swing back and forth many times before you become centered, and then something will come and bump it so it will start to move again.
We never know when quitting is going to be either, so we protect our quit by coming here everyday and posting roll. On shitty days, it's real easy to remember that you are an addict. On good days, it's real easy to forget.
Always remember.
Grab some numbers from your quit brothers, and start texting them. They are going through the same shit you are. We vets are all addicts as well, and we'll do our best to warn you of pitfalls you may run acrossed. We'll most definately point out an error in your logic because (1) we have failed because we once thought the same, or (2) we have watched hundreds think the same way and fail.
Post roll.
Stay quit.
Repeat.
Simple, but not easy.
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What you are experiencing is what we refer to as "the fog". It will mess with you, but it is temporary. It's the worst here for the next few days until the poison is out of your body. After that, it's slightly easier.
I like to think about a pendulum when I think about my quit mood.
You have pulled the pendulum over to the "Shitty" side and let go. It takes some time and energy for it to move over to the "Life is good side". It's not an overnight process, and it's not an immediate conversion.
Your quit is going to be like this your entire life. Sometimes, quitting is shitty. Sometimes, it's easy. It's going to swing back and forth many times before you become centered, and then something will come and bump it so it will start to move again.
We never know when quitting is going to be either, so we protect our quit by coming here everyday and posting roll. On shitty days, it's real easy to remember that you are an addict. On good days, it's real easy to forget.
Always remember.
Grab some numbers from your quit brothers, and start texting them. They are going through the same shit you are. We vets are all addicts as well, and we'll do our best to warn you of pitfalls you may run acrossed. We'll most definately point out an error in your logic because (1) we have failed because we once thought the same, or (2) we have watched hundreds think the same way and fail.
Post roll.
Stay quit.
Repeat.
Simple, but not easy.
I have class, be back at 3:30.... Are you saying that it never really goes away? your never completely free? you fight it every day until you die?
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What you are experiencing is what we refer to as "the fog". It will mess with you, but it is temporary. It's the worst here for the next few days until the poison is out of your body. After that, it's slightly easier.
I like to think about a pendulum when I think about my quit mood.
You have pulled the pendulum over to the "Shitty" side and let go. It takes some time and energy for it to move over to the "Life is good side". It's not an overnight process, and it's not an immediate conversion.Â
Your quit is going to be like this your entire life. Sometimes, quitting is shitty. Sometimes, it's easy. It's going to swing back and forth many times before you become centered, and then something will come and bump it so it will start to move again.Â
We never know when quitting is going to be either, so we protect our quit by coming here everyday and posting roll. On shitty days, it's real easy to remember that you are an addict. On good days, it's real easy to forget.
Always remember.
Grab some numbers from your quit brothers, and start texting them. They are going through the same shit you are. We vets are all addicts as well, and we'll do our best to warn you of pitfalls you may run acrossed. We'll most definately point out an error in your logic because (1) we have failed because we once thought the same, or (2) we have watched hundreds think the same way and fail.
Post roll.
Stay quit.
Repeat.
Simple, but not easy.
I have class, be back at 3:30.... Are you saying that it never really goes away? your never completely free? you fight it every day until you die?
You are an addict.
An addict is never cured. Reintroducing the drug back into the system will awaken the sleeping giant in your head.
I stopped using originally in 2006. I posted roll everyday, and I knew I never could have "just one". Around day 150, I became complacent and stopped posting. I WAS QUIT!
In reality, my brain began deleting all the tools I learned here. First I stopped posting. Then I stopped acknowledging my addiction. Then I forgot I was an addict. Then I thought "I can have just one".
Then I did.
And I spent almost 2 years trying to come up with the courage to quit again.
What I'm saying is that you will always battle the nic bitch. However, sometimes you won't even know that you are battling her. She's crafty, and she hides. She tells you she's gone, but she's not.
Life is really good without her. That's why we post roll. We tell ourselves that even though the sex was good, bitch ran train with all your frat buddies and emptied your checking account. When you took her home for Thanksgiving, she shit in your grandma's planter by the door while the family was watching wide eyed. You don't want any part of her ever again. Fuck those "good times".
A simple acknowledgement (30 seconds via computer, 5 seconds via text) every morning will remind you to stay away.
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WP, love the knowledge you're dropping in here. preach on...
you should flesh out that pendulum analogy further for a WoW submission.
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I go to college at a four year university. Im studying Optical Engineering and I have a job this summer working on Directed Energy and Laser Weaponry. This job is the goal of my life
Today I gave a presentation to the president of my school on why he should convert all on-campus vehicle to electric. The whole presentation i was just in a fog. I wasnt getting distracted or thinking about other things, I just couldn't think. I couldnt hold any thought process for more than 30- 40 seconds (I still cant but now i dont really have to). Luckily my partner is a good friend and a fraternity brother of mine. He bailed me out so many times and afterward asked me why I was mentally retarded for the last hour. I told him i quit and i was withdrawing from nicotine. He fuckin high fived me. I just made the biggest presentation of his college career so much harder because , lets be honest, i was useless, and he responded by high five and saying "never look back". BTW, apparently the president loved our speech.
Sunflower seeds have saved me today. Luckily I posted roll, that means I made a promise, and my Mama didnt raise no bitch. A promise made is a promise kept. No nicotine today boys.
Your friend sounds like a GREAT friend. That is just awesome. I remember the first big final I took after I quit. My mind was racing. I was in a crazy fog. I got through it though.
"Momma didn't raise no bitch"
^^Love this quote^^
Keep up the good quitting brother.
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That's how it's done. WP hit the nail on the head. Never cured, but it does get better. I'm over a year quit and I still get craves every once in a while. They're easy to ignore now. I've learned to sorta like having the occasional crave...it reminds me of my freedom from the nic bitch.
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"Momma didn't raise no bitch"
^^Love this quote^^
Keep up the good quitting brother.
X2
Good to have you here.
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Where's that roll post Braker?
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Where's that roll post Braker?
I ask for a roll post and I get a cave story. Great. Post your new quit plan in here Braker, I don't want it to get lost in May 2012.
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Waiting for you to post roll today!!
'Popcorn'
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Waiting for you to post roll today!!
'Popcorn'
I would also like to see a copy of that quit plan of yours.
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Online this morning at 3:53 am + no roll post = fail
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Online this morning at 3:53 am + no roll post = fail
Guess mama did raise a bitch.
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I failed to do this earlier last week so I'll do it now.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
So I'm 21 and a Senior in college. In 2 days I finish classes and on May 25 I graduate and move to AZ to take my job as a Laser Physicist. I will have a degree in Optical Engineering.
I've been dipping since I was about 16-17. I started because of some peer pressure (not passing blame from myself, but that is the truth). I was on and off through college between dipping and smoking with several failed quits under my belt.
I'm here now because I have a steady girlfriend that I'll marry one day. I have a job and, frankly, im not a kid anymore. It's time to man up and do what needs to be done.
I also play a couple online games (SW:TOR mainly but also some and CoD on 360 and shit) for anyone who is interested in joining me (Nerdy, but hey.... im a physicist)
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I failed to do this earlier last week so I'll do it now.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
So I'm 21 and a Senior in college. In 2 days I finish classes and on May 25 I graduate and move to AZ to take my job as a Laser Physicist. I will have a degree in Optical Engineering.
I've been dipping since I was about 16-17. I started because of some peer pressure (not passing blame from myself, but that is the truth). I was on and off through college between dipping and smoking with several failed quits under my belt.
I'm here now because I have a steady girlfriend that I'll marry one day. I have a job and, frankly, im not a kid anymore. It's time to man up and do what needs to be done.
I also play a couple online games (SW:TOR mainly but also some and CoD on 360 and shit) for anyone who is interested in joining me (Nerdy, but hey.... im a physicist)
Okay Braker, sounds all good but it isn't. We are a bunch of quitters here and don't really allow cavers unless they have a REALLY good reason to be allowed back. We are a special family so why did you cave and what are you going to do differently this time? Why should we allow you back? A proven caver?
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Braker - Day 1. I'm back gentlemen. I regret leaving. Today, I am slave to no man and no product. Thanks for not giving up on me Zam
You're posting your second third day 1. I wouldn't think I'd have to ask, but here goes: How did it happen? Why did it happen? Why should this time be any different?
I justified it to myself saying that it wasn't something I needed to handle right now. I could just deal with it once I graduated college. Each time I've tried to quit its been out of fear and every time the fear subsides, there's justification.
This time I'm motivated through different alleys. On my future day 16 I'll graduate college and on my future day 25 I will move across the country to start my new job. I will no longer live in a frat house and I have arrangements with my fraternity brothers that will make caving even more detrimental before I leave. Everything from public slap bets to a straight ass beating. But it's still about my willpower because we know I could hide it. If I take this this habit with me after college, I'll never quit. I have the last opportunity of my life to start fresh in a new town with new habits. My addiction stays in college.
I think about quitting almost very day. I'm tired of thinking about it and it's time
I get some Goddamn willpower. I'm tired of letting my subconscious control me as I'm tired of walking to the gas station at 3 am because of something I think I need. I'm sick of thinking about dip in class. I'm sick of wanting dip every second of the day. I feel like a fucking failure for postin my third day 1. I'm not proud of it by any stretch of the imagination. This is my last Day 1. I'm not a college kid anymore. I don't dip anymore. And when I saw that I'm going to do something, you can bet you're ass I'm gonna do it.
Anyone from August have an opinion? Sorry Joe , pretty much all I hear so far is: I can't/couldn't help it. PS - your addiction won't stay in college....
Everything I feel can be found below. Almost nearly in the same context. It's time to grow up and face some hard situations. Don't spend your life failing at everything that is a little difficult. It won't get you anywhere. Stand up to this quit as a man and handle it like a man.
If you need a number, shoot me a pm.
1 I quit quitting. I decided to ignoere my core beliefs and just chew with the
Mentality that ill deal with it later.
2 I dont really remember how.it happened I just bought a can thinking no one would know and I would only chew once n a while but it turned out to he full on in no time.
3 this time I will get numbers and post everyday and talk to someone if I feel like caving.
Ps diz are you the judger of what reasons are good and bad ? Reasons why people quit shouldn't be evaluated and ranked simply on your opinion. If I want my wife.off my back that's a perfectly fine reason to come in here and post roll. Who doesn't want a better relationship with their significant other ?
Its not Diz who is the judge. We all judge. It's not about flaming you or busting your balls. I just want to be able to trust you. See when I joined this group I understood that my quitting not only affected me but it also affects every one else in here. It's more responsibility than just quitting for me. I quit for every other member in here today. I quit because if I fail someone else could fail, and maybe that someone gets cancer because I was too weak, I can't live with that. This group is a higher calling. If you can't accept that, just go. If you're ready to rock this quit, rely on your crew, be accountable to your crew, quit for us and with us everyday then let's roll. If you aren't, then leave. Fuck all of that other "oh I'll post everyday, blah, blah, blah". Those are weak ass words, this quit is in the heart and the mind, live it, breathe it, enjoy it man. Seriously, If that's the only thing you can take away from this, do it, enjoy this quit, enjoy the new life you're creating. Great things aren't easy to obtain but they are great. Smile through your pain, talk to us, and remember me when you have a crave. Need my number? Pm me anytime and it's yours.
Cole, I made the comment about quitting to get your wife off your back, in my opinion that is a lousy excuse and needed to be called out. Maybe I am splitting hairs, but if you are quitting to have a better relationship with your wife that is a totally different attitude and reason.
Not meant to be judging, you have been here before and I would suggest you spend a little time and read more of the site. Many of us were ninja dippers who hid our addiction from our loved ones to keep them off our backs.
Quit for you, quit for a stronger family, great. Quit so you aren't being harassed? Sounded weak to me. You have been here before, this isn't easy. That reason has to many ways out to be valid. That was the point I was trying to make. I hope I said it a little more clearly this time.
Glad to have you back, I will be happy to quit with you. PM me if you need more numbers.
PS - as a member of March I believe we deserve an explanation as well. I know you had my number, I am betting you had others as well. Stop by and tell us you are back and ready to quit for real this time, I bet you will see several of us in here daily posting with you.
There's very few people in your life who understand another's dilemma and struggle. It's embarrassing to come back and admit failure and answer questions. I understand the purpose but the humiliation is still there. I know Zam doesn't believe me. He doesn't believe in my quit because I've failed so many times in front of him, on KTC and solo. I don't blame you Zam. There's only so much you can trust before acceptance of failure and weakness kick in. However, I'm gonna prove you wrong you dirty motherfucker. And as much as I appreciate your help and your random texts in my absence, as much as I owe you for your lack of confidence intended as encouragement, you WILL see. I am the master of my destiny. My freedom is my own. I owe nothing to no man and no man shall be in my debt. My struggle is my own and you will watch me overcome it.
Day 2 motherfuckers. Lets roll.
I included responses in case you were interested
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Braker - Day 1. I'm back gentlemen. I regret leaving. Today, I am slave to no man and no product. Thanks for not giving up on me Zam
You're posting your second third day 1. I wouldn't think I'd have to ask, but here goes: How did it happen? Why did it happen? Why should this time be any different?
I justified it to myself saying that it wasn't something I needed to handle right now. I could just deal with it once I graduated college. Each time I've tried to quit its been out of fear and every time the fear subsides, there's justification.
This time I'm motivated through different alleys. On my future day 16 I'll graduate college and on my future day 25 I will move across the country to start my new job. I will no longer live in a frat house and I have arrangements with my fraternity brothers that will make caving even more detrimental before I leave. Everything from public slap bets to a straight ass beating. But it's still about my willpower because we know I could hide it. If I take this this habit with me after college, I'll never quit. I have the last opportunity of my life to start fresh in a new town with new habits. My addiction stays in college.
I think about quitting almost very day. I'm tired of thinking about it and it's time
I get some Goddamn willpower. I'm tired of letting my subconscious control me as I'm tired of walking to the gas station at 3 am because of something I think I need. I'm sick of thinking about dip in class. I'm sick of wanting dip every second of the day. I feel like a fucking failure for postin my third day 1. I'm not proud of it by any stretch of the imagination. This is my last Day 1. I'm not a college kid anymore. I don't dip anymore. And when I saw that I'm going to do something, you can bet you're ass I'm gonna do it.
Anyone from August have an opinion? Sorry Joe , pretty much all I hear so far is: I can't/couldn't help it. PS - your addiction won't stay in college....
Everything I feel can be found below. Almost nearly in the same context. It's time to grow up and face some hard situations. Don't spend your life failing at everything that is a little difficult. It won't get you anywhere. Stand up to this quit as a man and handle it like a man.
If you need a number, shoot me a pm.
1 I quit quitting. I decided to ignoere my core beliefs and just chew with the
Mentality that ill deal with it later.
2 I dont really remember how.it happened I just bought a can thinking no one would know and I would only chew once n a while but it turned out to he full on in no time.
3 this time I will get numbers and post everyday and talk to someone if I feel like caving.
Ps diz are you the judger of what reasons are good and bad ? Reasons why people quit shouldn't be evaluated and ranked simply on your opinion. If I want my wife.off my back that's a perfectly fine reason to come in here and post roll. Who doesn't want a better relationship with their significant other ?
Its not Diz who is the judge. We all judge. It's not about flaming you or busting your balls. I just want to be able to trust you. See when I joined this group I understood that my quitting not only affected me but it also affects every one else in here. It's more responsibility than just quitting for me. I quit for every other member in here today. I quit because if I fail someone else could fail, and maybe that someone gets cancer because I was too weak, I can't live with that. This group is a higher calling. If you can't accept that, just go. If you're ready to rock this quit, rely on your crew, be accountable to your crew, quit for us and with us everyday then let's roll. If you aren't, then leave. Fuck all of that other "oh I'll post everyday, blah, blah, blah". Those are weak ass words, this quit is in the heart and the mind, live it, breathe it, enjoy it man. Seriously, If that's the only thing you can take away from this, do it, enjoy this quit, enjoy the new life you're creating. Great things aren't easy to obtain but they are great. Smile through your pain, talk to us, and remember me when you have a crave. Need my number? Pm me anytime and it's yours.
Cole, I made the comment about quitting to get your wife off your back, in my opinion that is a lousy excuse and needed to be called out. Maybe I am splitting hairs, but if you are quitting to have a better relationship with your wife that is a totally different attitude and reason.
Not meant to be judging, you have been here before and I would suggest you spend a little time and read more of the site. Many of us were ninja dippers who hid our addiction from our loved ones to keep them off our backs.
Quit for you, quit for a stronger family, great. Quit so you aren't being harassed? Sounded weak to me. You have been here before, this isn't easy. That reason has to many ways out to be valid. That was the point I was trying to make. I hope I said it a little more clearly this time.
Glad to have you back, I will be happy to quit with you. PM me if you need more numbers.
PS - as a member of March I believe we deserve an explanation as well. I know you had my number, I am betting you had others as well. Stop by and tell us you are back and ready to quit for real this time, I bet you will see several of us in here daily posting with you.
There's very few people in your life who understand another's dilemma and struggle. It's embarrassing to come back and admit failure and answer questions. I understand the purpose but the humiliation is still there. I know Zam doesn't believe me. He doesn't believe in my quit because I've failed so many times in front of him, on KTC and solo. I don't blame you Zam. There's only so much you can trust before acceptance of failure and weakness kick in. However, I'm gonna prove you wrong you dirty motherfucker. And as much as I appreciate your help and your random texts in my absence, as much as I owe you for your lack of confidence intended as encouragement, you WILL see. I am the master of my destiny. My freedom is my own. I owe nothing to no man and no man shall be in my debt. My struggle is my own and you will watch me overcome it.
Day 2 motherfuckers. Lets roll.
I included responses in case you were interested
Okay...got it. Quit with you today!
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Okay...got it. Quit with you today!
YAY! I gotta another quit buddy!
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Braker - Day 1. I'm back gentlemen. I regret leaving. Today, I am slave to no man and no product. Thanks for not giving up on me Zam
You're posting your second third day 1. I wouldn't think I'd have to ask, but here goes: How did it happen? Why did it happen? Why should this time be any different?
I justified it to myself saying that it wasn't something I needed to handle right now. I could just deal with it once I graduated college. Each time I've tried to quit its been out of fear and every time the fear subsides, there's justification.
This time I'm motivated through different alleys. On my future day 16 I'll graduate college and on my future day 25 I will move across the country to start my new job. I will no longer live in a frat house and I have arrangements with my fraternity brothers that will make caving even more detrimental before I leave. Everything from public slap bets to a straight ass beating. But it's still about my willpower because we know I could hide it. If I take this this habit with me after college, I'll never quit. I have the last opportunity of my life to start fresh in a new town with new habits. My addiction stays in college.
I think about quitting almost very day. I'm tired of thinking about it and it's time
I get some Goddamn willpower. I'm tired of letting my subconscious control me as I'm tired of walking to the gas station at 3 am because of something I think I need. I'm sick of thinking about dip in class. I'm sick of wanting dip every second of the day. I feel like a fucking failure for postin my third day 1. I'm not proud of it by any stretch of the imagination. This is my last Day 1. I'm not a college kid anymore. I don't dip anymore. And when I saw that I'm going to do something, you can bet you're ass I'm gonna do it.
Anyone from August have an opinion? Sorry Joe , pretty much all I hear so far is: I can't/couldn't help it. PS - your addiction won't stay in college....
Everything I feel can be found below. Almost nearly in the same context. It's time to grow up and face some hard situations. Don't spend your life failing at everything that is a little difficult. It won't get you anywhere. Stand up to this quit as a man and handle it like a man.
If you need a number, shoot me a pm.
1 I quit quitting. I decided to ignoere my core beliefs and just chew with the
Mentality that ill deal with it later.
2 I dont really remember how.it happened I just bought a can thinking no one would know and I would only chew once n a while but it turned out to he full on in no time.
3 this time I will get numbers and post everyday and talk to someone if I feel like caving.
Ps diz are you the judger of what reasons are good and bad ? Reasons why people quit shouldn't be evaluated and ranked simply on your opinion. If I want my wife.off my back that's a perfectly fine reason to come in here and post roll. Who doesn't want a better relationship with their significant other ?
Its not Diz who is the judge. We all judge. It's not about flaming you or busting your balls. I just want to be able to trust you. See when I joined this group I understood that my quitting not only affected me but it also affects every one else in here. It's more responsibility than just quitting for me. I quit for every other member in here today. I quit because if I fail someone else could fail, and maybe that someone gets cancer because I was too weak, I can't live with that. This group is a higher calling. If you can't accept that, just go. If you're ready to rock this quit, rely on your crew, be accountable to your crew, quit for us and with us everyday then let's roll. If you aren't, then leave. Fuck all of that other "oh I'll post everyday, blah, blah, blah". Those are weak ass words, this quit is in the heart and the mind, live it, breathe it, enjoy it man. Seriously, If that's the only thing you can take away from this, do it, enjoy this quit, enjoy the new life you're creating. Great things aren't easy to obtain but they are great. Smile through your pain, talk to us, and remember me when you have a crave. Need my number? Pm me anytime and it's yours.
Cole, I made the comment about quitting to get your wife off your back, in my opinion that is a lousy excuse and needed to be called out. Maybe I am splitting hairs, but if you are quitting to have a better relationship with your wife that is a totally different attitude and reason.
Not meant to be judging, you have been here before and I would suggest you spend a little time and read more of the site. Many of us were ninja dippers who hid our addiction from our loved ones to keep them off our backs.
Quit for you, quit for a stronger family, great. Quit so you aren't being harassed? Sounded weak to me. You have been here before, this isn't easy. That reason has to many ways out to be valid. That was the point I was trying to make. I hope I said it a little more clearly this time.
Glad to have you back, I will be happy to quit with you. PM me if you need more numbers.
PS - as a member of March I believe we deserve an explanation as well. I know you had my number, I am betting you had others as well. Stop by and tell us you are back and ready to quit for real this time, I bet you will see several of us in here daily posting with you.
There's very few people in your life who understand another's dilemma and struggle. It's embarrassing to come back and admit failure and answer questions. I understand the purpose but the humiliation is still there. I know Zam doesn't believe me. He doesn't believe in my quit because I've failed so many times in front of him, on KTC and solo. I don't blame you Zam. There's only so much you can trust before acceptance of failure and weakness kick in. However, I'm gonna prove you wrong you dirty motherfucker. And as much as I appreciate your help and your random texts in my absence, as much as I owe you for your lack of confidence intended as encouragement, you WILL see. I am the master of my destiny. My freedom is my own. I owe nothing to no man and no man shall be in my debt. My struggle is my own and you will watch me overcome it.
Day 2 motherfuckers. Lets roll.
I included responses in case you were interested
Okay...got it. Quit with you today!
Morning Braker.
I remember you.
I remember how you came here last time and showed such promise after a day or 2. You looked like you really wanted this.
And then, you ignored our advice and went drinking with your friends. You made the choice that we didn't know what we were talking about. You "did this on your own".
I'm sad that didn't work out for you.
Fucking make it work this time. No excuses. Just quit. No future. No past. We worry about this fucking moment right now because that is all we have control over. You need to think about the following questions long and hard:
(1) What happened?
(2) Why did it happen?
(3) What are you doing differently this time?
These questions are not asked so you feel bullied. These questions are not asked so we can all point at you. These questions are asked because they help us all learn how to stay quit right now. This quit is yours, but helping others along the way makes it stronger and more fortified. Don't do it for us. Do it for you.
I can and do answer the 3 questions for my past mistakes and successes daily.
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There's very few people in your life who understand another's dilemma and struggle. It's embarrassing to come back and admit failure and answer questions. I understand the purpose but the humiliation is still there. I know Zam doesn't believe me. He doesn't believe in my quit because I've failed so many times in front of him, on KTC and solo. I don't blame you Zam. There's only so much you can trust before acceptance of failure and weakness kick in. However, I'm gonna prove you wrong you dirty motherfucker. And as much as I appreciate your help and your random texts in my absence, as much as I owe you for your lack of confidence intended as encouragement, you WILL see. I am the master of my destiny. My freedom is my own. I owe nothing to no man and no man shall be in my debt. My struggle is my own and you will watch me overcome it.
Day 2 motherfuckers. Lets roll.
You talk a lot of smack for a serial caver. You even add in some pretty eloquent bullshit. Now the reality check - you are not a special butterfly :scowick:
Life is a dilemma and struggle.
If you can get over your "I'm gonna do this on my own and do it my own way" attitude, you might actually succeed with your quit. Here's our secret quit formula one more time:
Promise not to use nicotine in any form today
Keep your word (this takes integrity - not sure if you know what that is)
Repeat first thing in the morning
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There's very few people in your life who understand another's dilemma and struggle. It's embarrassing to come back and admit failure and answer questions. I understand the purpose but the humiliation is still there. I know Zam doesn't believe me. He doesn't believe in my quit because I've failed so many times in front of him, on KTC and solo. I don't blame you Zam. There's only so much you can trust before acceptance of failure and weakness kick in. However, I'm gonna prove you wrong you dirty motherfucker. And as much as I appreciate your help and your random texts in my absence, as much as I owe you for your lack of confidence intended as encouragement, you WILL see. I am the master of my destiny. My freedom is my own. I owe nothing to no man and no man shall be in my debt. My struggle is my own and you will watch me overcome it.
Day 2 motherfuckers. Lets roll.
You talk a lot of smack for a serial caver. You even add in some pretty eloquent bullshit. Now the reality check - you are not a special butterfly :scowick:
Life is a dilemma and struggle.
If you can get over your "I'm gonna do this on my own and do it my own way" attitude, you might actually succeed with your quit. Here's our secret quit formula one more time:
Promise not to use nicotine in any form today
Keep your word (this takes integrity - not sure if you know what that is)
Repeat first thing in the morning
1.) Getting amped for your quit is not talking smack.
2.) Eloquence and fluidity in writing comes with practice. You'll get there.
I came back because I wanted to be chastised and shit talked. I'm here and I have admitted I FUCKED UP. I only came back here to step on your fucking toes and to read that how my motivating factors for my quit make me a shitty person.
If you don't want me here I'll just as soon leave and text you on day 100.
Eloquent enough for you?
Day 8
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Morning Braker.
I remember you.
I remember how you came here last time and showed such promise after a day or 2. You looked like you really wanted this.
And then, you ignored our advice and went drinking with your friends. You made the choice that we didn't know what we were talking about. You "did this on your own".
I'm sad that didn't work out for you.
Fucking make it work this time. No excuses. Just quit. No future. No past. We worry about this fucking moment right now because that is all we have control over. You need to think about the following questions long and hard:
(1) What happened?
(2) Why did it happen?
(3) What are you doing differently this time?
These questions are not asked so you feel bullied. These questions are not asked so we can all point at you. These questions are asked because they help us all learn how to stay quit right now. This quit is yours, but helping others along the way makes it stronger and more fortified. Don't do it for us. Do it for you.
I can and do answer the 3 questions for my past mistakes and successes daily.
I was able to justify it to myself. My best friends were all dippers and chewers and it was difficult to hang out with them. I spent a lot of time alone and tried to avoid it. The bottom line was that I caved. It was almost a year ago but i remember it very clearly. I gave in and I fucked up. I'm not blaming peer pressure, or stress, or the stars in the sky. I blame me.
I was with my friends at the Pacers v Heat game in Indianapolis the day before the super bowl in Indianapolis. We were riding in the car from our college town to the game everyone lit up on the way. I held my ground and made it there fine. Then, in bar after bar prior to the game I lowered my defenses and became more susceptible (as you mentioned previously). Eventually in a mildly drunken state, I gave into an offer for a cig. I shouldnt have taken it but i did. I let myself down that day.
This time:
1.) I graduate college in 9 days and will leave this frat house.
2.) I have no desire to drink outside the Frat house.
3.) I will NOT be a dipper or smoker for the rest of my life.
4.) I bought 50 packs of seeds and a Sams Club mountain of gum.
5.) I'm gonna fuckin listen to you guys. No drinking. Period.
6.) Most of my triggers are related to classes and homework. No to say they won't remain, but the change of environment MAY be helpful.
7.) I will post role every day at the start of the day.
8.) I have to prove to myself that I can do it and that I am not a slave to a tin of chew.
9.) I want to prove it to Zam. Not the main focus, but he didnt give up on me. He's a good friend.
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There's very few people in your life who understand another's dilemma and struggle. It's embarrassing to come back and admit failure and answer questions. I understand the purpose but the humiliation is still there. I know Zam doesn't believe me. He doesn't believe in my quit because I've failed so many times in front of him, on KTC and solo. I don't blame you Zam. There's only so much you can trust before acceptance of failure and weakness kick in. However, I'm gonna prove you wrong you dirty motherfucker. And as much as I appreciate your help and your random texts in my absence, as much as I owe you for your lack of confidence intended as encouragement, you WILL see. I am the master of my destiny. My freedom is my own. I owe nothing to no man and no man shall be in my debt. My struggle is my own and you will watch me overcome it.
Day 2 motherfuckers. Lets roll.
You talk a lot of smack for a serial caver. You even add in some pretty eloquent bullshit. Now the reality check - you are not a special butterfly :scowick:
Life is a dilemma and struggle.
If you can get over your "I'm gonna do this on my own and do it my own way" attitude, you might actually succeed with your quit. Here's our secret quit formula one more time:
Promise not to use nicotine in any form today
Keep your word (this takes integrity - not sure if you know what that is)
Repeat first thing in the morning
1.) Getting amped for your quit is not talking smack.
2.) Eloquence and fluidity in writing comes with practice. You'll get there.
I came back because I wanted to be chastised and shit talked. I'm here and I have admitted I FUCKED UP. I only came back here to step on your fucking toes and to read that how my motivating factors for my quit make me a shitty person.
If you don't want me here I'll just as soon leave and text you on day 100.
Eloquent enough for you?
Day 8
What would leaving prove?
We want to see you quit, and we are willing to help, but you've got to drop this "lone ranger" attitude.
All for one, and one for all.
I don't do this simply for your benefit. I want a killer to have my back, and I want that person to shoot down any incoming foes I don't see. I don't want somebody that can't be trusted. I trust the quitters here to do that for me, and I trust them with all my heart. Especially Notdeadyet.
If you want to be a real hardass, go grab some of those day 1 or day 2 quitter numbers. Those guys are foggy as fuck, and they will benefit the most from your more recent than mine advice. Make friends with them. Build them up and hold them accountable. They'll do the same for you.
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What would leaving prove?
We want to see you quit, and we are willing to help, but you've got to drop this "lone ranger" attitude.
All for one, and one for all.
I don't do this simply for your benefit. I want a killer to have my back, and I want that person to shoot down any incoming foes I don't see. I don't want somebody that can't be trusted. I trust the quitters here to do that for me, and I trust them with all my heart. Especially Notdeadyet.
If you want to be a real hardass, go grab some of those day 1 or day 2 quitter numbers. Those guys are foggy as fuck, and they will benefit the most from your more recent than mine advice. Make friends with them. Build them up and hold them accountable. They'll do the same for you.
I know it would prove nothing but its hard to stay when received with such hostility.
Yesterday, I got to tell a stranger "No thanks, I don't chew" It felt great and I'll remember that moment tomorrow.
I am an asshole for caving. I know that I'm a shitty person for making it easier for you guys to cave. Even after 8 days, chew is pretty gross lookin. the smell makes me sick to my stomach and watching people spit makes me gag.
Everyday I quit for today, but I'm here for the long haul. I went back and read your old posts to me waste and I see the foolishness you are addressing. It's quite embarrassing.
I hope you can forgive the jeopardy I put you in by caving. I'm nicotine free and today I am quit.
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What would leaving prove?
We want to see you quit, and we are willing to help, but you've got to drop this "lone ranger" attitude.
All for one, and one for all.
I don't do this simply for your benefit. I want a killer to have my back, and I want that person to shoot down any incoming foes I don't see. I don't want somebody that can't be trusted. I trust the quitters here to do that for me, and I trust them with all my heart. Especially Notdeadyet.
If you want to be a real hardass, go grab some of those day 1 or day 2 quitter numbers. Those guys are foggy as fuck, and they will benefit the most from your more recent than mine advice. Make friends with them. Build them up and hold them accountable. They'll do the same for you.
I know it would prove nothing but its hard to stay when received with such hostility.
Yesterday, I got to tell a stranger "No thanks, I don't chew" It felt great and I'll remember that moment tomorrow.
I am an asshole for caving. I know that I'm a shitty person for making it easier for you guys to cave. Even after 8 days, chew is pretty gross lookin. the smell makes me sick to my stomach and watching people spit makes me gag.
Everyday I quit for today, but I'm here for the long haul. I went back and read your old posts to me waste and I see the foolishness you are addressing. It's quite embarrassing.
I hope you can forgive the jeopardy I put you in by caving. I'm nicotine free and today I am quit.
You have over 15,000 quit buddies
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I am an asshole for caving.
ok reading this I had to comment.
No one is an asshole for making a decision. That in essence is what you did when you put that crap back into your body. That's it.
Now it is a decision that alot of us who are here to quit cannot fathom ouselves making. Hell there are a bunch of us that do not even have that listed as an option to the question any more. So when we are asked the question and need to make a decision, it is off the table and not a selection to make.
It is also a decision that we would absolutely disagree with, and feel disappointed that you made, since I would infer that the tools that are taught here have been ignored in the process of making that decision.
In saying the above 2 things, this is the Accountability and Brotherhood that is the backbone of our quit here.
So I do hope you are back for good, I do hope that you have learned from you past. And if this is going to work, get your head straight, and NEVER make that decision again.
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
57 nails this. You better cling to this site like you would to a rope over a vat of acid. Like hanging on to a life preserver in a nasty rip current. Or you will be back here in 20 years saying sorry for caving if your lucky. Having a beam of radiation burning your face if you are not. Last bit of advise........get some numbers....it could save your life.
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
57 nails this. You better cling to this site like you would to a rope over a vat of acid. Like hanging on to a life preserver in a nasty rip current. Or you will be back here in 20 years saying sorry for caving if your lucky. Having a beam of radiation burning your face if you are not. Last bit of advise........get some numbers....it could save your life.
Double what those guys said. They are wise.
You suspect your quit has been less intense than us low life long term dipper's? Then why the fuck do you keep caving?
Another young punk who thinks they're the shit. Get your head out of your ass and realize youre a fucking addict, just like the rest of us.
You cant be a little bit pregnant and you cant be a little bit of an addict. Get your shit together son and quit right this time. If an old fuck up like me can do it, surely a young buck like yourself can.
Man up.
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
57 nails this. You better cling to this site like you would to a rope over a vat of acid. Like hanging on to a life preserver in a nasty rip current. Or you will be back here in 20 years saying sorry for caving if your lucky. Having a beam of radiation burning your face if you are not. Last bit of advise........get some numbers....it could save your life.
Double what those guys said. They are wise.
You suspect your quit has been less intense than us low life long term dipper's? Then why the fuck do you keep caving?
Another young punk who thinks they're the shit. Get your head out of your ass and realize youre a fucking addict, just like the rest of us.
You cant be a little bit pregnant and you cant be a little bit of an addict. Get your shit together son and quit right this time. If an old fuck up like me can do it, surely a young buck like yourself can.
Man up.
+ infinity
I know that my life got waaaaay less complicated when I left the frat house 'Crazy'
Also, I wonder if Braken has the scrotum to even read Capt's and Diesel's and Wt's intros - much less get their numbers... :doubtful
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
57 nails this. You better cling to this site like you would to a rope over a vat of acid. Like hanging on to a life preserver in a nasty rip current. Or you will be back here in 20 years saying sorry for caving if your lucky. Having a beam of radiation burning your face if you are not. Last bit of advise........get some numbers....it could save your life.
Double what those guys said. They are wise.
You suspect your quit has been less intense than us low life long term dipper's? Then why the fuck do you keep caving?
Another young punk who thinks they're the shit. Get your head out of your ass and realize youre a fucking addict, just like the rest of us.
You cant be a little bit pregnant and you cant be a little bit of an addict. Get your shit together son and quit right this time. If an old fuck up like me can do it, surely a young buck like yourself can.
Man up.
+ infinity
I know that my life got waaaaay less complicated when I left the frat house 'Crazy'
Also, I wonder if Braken has the scrotum to even read Capt's and Diesel's and Wt's intros - much less get their numbers... :doubtful
I have been thoroughly insulted.
My opinions and thoughts on my experiences are clearly wrong, and i obviously have no capacity to reach conclusions on my own. I will refrain from speaking my mind in the future. Thank you for setting me straight. From now on my posts will be concise and lacking any personal thought to avoid the humiliation I have experienced from being a recurring phenomenon. Thank you. I appreciate your Sarcasm and underhanded comments.
I'll take my leave. I'm sorry to have offended.
Day 11
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
57 nails this. You better cling to this site like you would to a rope over a vat of acid. Like hanging on to a life preserver in a nasty rip current. Or you will be back here in 20 years saying sorry for caving if your lucky. Having a beam of radiation burning your face if you are not. Last bit of advise........get some numbers....it could save your life.
Double what those guys said. They are wise.
You suspect your quit has been less intense than us low life long term dipper's? Then why the fuck do you keep caving?
Another young punk who thinks they're the shit. Get your head out of your ass and realize youre a fucking addict, just like the rest of us.
You cant be a little bit pregnant and you cant be a little bit of an addict. Get your shit together son and quit right this time. If an old fuck up like me can do it, surely a young buck like yourself can.
Man up.
+ infinity
I know that my life got waaaaay less complicated when I left the frat house 'Crazy'
Also, I wonder if Braken has the scrotum to even read Capt's and Diesel's and Wt's intros - much less get their numbers... :doubtful
I have been thoroughly insulted.
My opinions and thoughts on my experiences are clearly wrong, and i obviously have no capacity to reach conclusions on my own. I will refrain from speaking my mind in the future. Thank you for setting me straight. From now on my posts will be concise and lacking any personal thought to avoid the humiliation I have experienced from being a recurring phenomenon. Thank you. I appreciate your Sarcasm and underhanded comments.
I'll take my leave. I'm sorry to have offended.
Day 11
Braker, don't be that guy. You've not been insulted in even one imaginable way. These guys use tough love because nicotine requires the tough love of quit brothers. Don't be the guy to push that assistance away because of your own stupid pride. I lost that stupid "me first" pride when I finally closed the door on dip and I bet most of these guys did, too. YOU NEED HELP; we all did.
When you finally choose humility, fragility, and "damn, maybe these guys know what they're talking about," your contributions to this site that you so crave (we all do) will be in the unique experiences of your own quit. And they WILL be unique to you. Those stories, those day-to-day battles, get to be your unique contribution to current and future quitters.
You offended nobody, but you probably left most of us wondering if you had the gonads to accept the humility in quitting that very few 21 year olds are capable of knowing. At 21, you feel invincible. We all did. Don't come back here in 15 years realizing you're not. Do this NOW. Drop your shields and listen to these vets. I'm not a vet. I still listen. And I'm not old yet, just grateful for allowing myself to let my guard down and admit I needed help.
I would love to quit with you every single fucking day.
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
57 nails this. You better cling to this site like you would to a rope over a vat of acid. Like hanging on to a life preserver in a nasty rip current. Or you will be back here in 20 years saying sorry for caving if your lucky. Having a beam of radiation burning your face if you are not. Last bit of advise........get some numbers....it could save your life.
Double what those guys said. They are wise.
You suspect your quit has been less intense than us low life long term dipper's? Then why the fuck do you keep caving?
Another young punk who thinks they're the shit. Get your head out of your ass and realize youre a fucking addict, just like the rest of us.
You cant be a little bit pregnant and you cant be a little bit of an addict. Get your shit together son and quit right this time. If an old fuck up like me can do it, surely a young buck like yourself can.
Man up.
+ infinity
I know that my life got waaaaay less complicated when I left the frat house 'Crazy'
Also, I wonder if Braken has the scrotum to even read Capt's and Diesel's and Wt's intros - much less get their numbers... :doubtful
I have been thoroughly insulted.
My opinions and thoughts on my experiences are clearly wrong, and i obviously have no capacity to reach conclusions on my own. I will refrain from speaking my mind in the future. Thank you for setting me straight. From now on my posts will be concise and lacking any personal thought to avoid the humiliation I have experienced from being a recurring phenomenon. Thank you. I appreciate your Sarcasm and underhanded comments.
I'll take my leave. I'm sorry to have offended.
Day 11
Just post day 12. If you were seriously offended go play with dolls.
Say whatever you wish on here and then others say stuff back. Wont always be something you like or even nice. I had a guy call me a pussy and to go have chest pains and panic attacks (something that happened to me early in my quit).
I think I told him something about his wife. Big fucking deal. Its not the norm on this site but it happens. I'm still here. Not sure that he is.
Tell you what IS the norm on this site...SUPPORT. It will come in different forms. Tough love, support from your quit groups, support in the forums, support in chat, support from texts, etc...
Only thing I can think of that offers more support is my jock strap, because my crank looks like a pringles can stuck between two softballs with a half a grapefruit on top.
Stick around kid.
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
57 nails this. You better cling to this site like you would to a rope over a vat of acid. Like hanging on to a life preserver in a nasty rip current. Or you will be back here in 20 years saying sorry for caving if your lucky. Having a beam of radiation burning your face if you are not. Last bit of advise........get some numbers....it could save your life.
Double what those guys said. They are wise.
You suspect your quit has been less intense than us low life long term dipper's? Then why the fuck do you keep caving?
Another young punk who thinks they're the shit. Get your head out of your ass and realize youre a fucking addict, just like the rest of us.
You cant be a little bit pregnant and you cant be a little bit of an addict. Get your shit together son and quit right this time. If an old fuck up like me can do it, surely a young buck like yourself can.
Man up.
+ infinity
I know that my life got waaaaay less complicated when I left the frat house 'Crazy'
Also, I wonder if Braken has the scrotum to even read Capt's and Diesel's and Wt's intros - much less get their numbers... :doubtful
I have been thoroughly insulted.
My opinions and thoughts on my experiences are clearly wrong, and i obviously have no capacity to reach conclusions on my own. I will refrain from speaking my mind in the future. Thank you for setting me straight. From now on my posts will be concise and lacking any personal thought to avoid the humiliation I have experienced from being a recurring phenomenon. Thank you. I appreciate your Sarcasm and underhanded comments.
I'll take my leave. I'm sorry to have offended.
Day 11
Just post day 12. If you were seriously offended go play with dolls.
Say whatever you wish on here and then others say stuff back. Wont always be something you like or even nice. I had a guy call me a pussy and to go have chest pains and panic attacks (something that happened to me early in my quit).
I think I told him something about his wife. Big fucking deal. Its not the norm on this site but it happens. I'm still here. Not sure that he is.
Tell you what IS the norm on this site...SUPPORT. It will come in different forms. Tough love, support from your quit groups, support in the forums, support in chat, support from texts, etc...
Only thing I can think of that offers more support is my jock strap, because my crank looks like a pringles can stuck between two softballs with a half a grapefruit on top.
Stick around kid.
Don't you dare leave, Braker...I am invested in your quit. I am a Lady and I have to put up with all sorts of shit on this site....it is worth it for the unparalleled help I get to stay quit. I just grew balls...yours just need to grow bigger and titanium. :)
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First of all it appears you are being allowed to stay welcome back. I reflected back on my life to your age, and I decided yes I probably would have reacted the same way you did at your age. You have taken your lumps now you know the drill and do what you promised.Â
You are in a frat and I am sure there are rules and regulations and there are consequences for violating the most sacred frat rules. for example loss of position in the frat, loss of trust, physical punishment to even expulsion from the frat. They get rid of you because you violated the trust and rules of the brotherhood.Â
This site is a brother/sisterhood also our bonds are just as strong if not stronger and we dont like them violated. I dont think how the vets and others were out of line at all. I think yes they were angry upset with you but during all of the posts they were focused on your quit and protecting the quits of everyone here. The admin, moderators, vets, and others have accountablity to hold people to the standards that have been established. For me this site has to be the way it is to help me. For the first time in my life I have admitted that I am an addict and I need help this site has taken me in provided me with tools to combat the NIC BITCH. So on a personal note I dont take kindly to something fucking that up for me.Â
On a personal note for you, you cant serve two masters. Your frat in college is one that promotes everything you are trying to get away from and this site doesnt want nicotine in your body. I know you say its only 9 days but between now and then you are going to be tempted everyday...so get up early post roll. PM if you need anything or my digits.
Hi guys, I'm Joe. This isnt my first venture on KTC, rather my third. Im currently on Day 8 and pretty proud to be there. My quit is going pretty good. I have cravings here and there but nothing detrimental. I suspect that my quit has been less intense due to the short time I dipped as compared to some gentlemen with 20, 30 or 40 years under their belts. I want to be here to stay but several of the gentlemen that I met when I first joined the site are no longer here and I feel like a stranger. Might as well re introduce myself, right?
'Crazy' WTF makes you think all of us stupid dumbass long term addicts have a harder time quitting?? Actually after you've been around a while and watched addicts cave you will find the younger guys have a poorer rate of staying quit. Just look at you you're already third time 'trying'!
You can't judge the intensity of your craving or quit your only quit 8 days! If you caved the other times I suppose they were even less intense. My experience of caving over 40 years each time became more intense and difficult. You may think because your quit is going pretty good you are a real quit stud. Beware you think a fresh start will make quitting easier but don't underestimate the power of addiction. You said you wanted to start your new life with new "habits" that's great but don't forget your still a addict, and always will be!
57 nails this. You better cling to this site like you would to a rope over a vat of acid. Like hanging on to a life preserver in a nasty rip current. Or you will be back here in 20 years saying sorry for caving if your lucky. Having a beam of radiation burning your face if you are not. Last bit of advise........get some numbers....it could save your life.
Double what those guys said. They are wise.
You suspect your quit has been less intense than us low life long term dipper's? Then why the fuck do you keep caving?
Another young punk who thinks they're the shit. Get your head out of your ass and realize youre a fucking addict, just like the rest of us.
You cant be a little bit pregnant and you cant be a little bit of an addict. Get your shit together son and quit right this time. If an old fuck up like me can do it, surely a young buck like yourself can.
Man up.
+ infinity
I know that my life got waaaaay less complicated when I left the frat house 'Crazy'
Also, I wonder if Braken has the scrotum to even read Capt's and Diesel's and Wt's intros - much less get their numbers... :doubtful
I have been thoroughly insulted.
My opinions and thoughts on my experiences are clearly wrong, and i obviously have no capacity to reach conclusions on my own. I will refrain from speaking my mind in the future. Thank you for setting me straight. From now on my posts will be concise and lacking any personal thought to avoid the humiliation I have experienced from being a recurring phenomenon. Thank you. I appreciate your Sarcasm and underhanded comments.
I'll take my leave. I'm sorry to have offended.
Day 11
Just post day 12. If you were seriously offended go play with dolls.
Say whatever you wish on here and then others say stuff back. Wont always be something you like or even nice. I had a guy call me a pussy and to go have chest pains and panic attacks (something that happened to me early in my quit).
I think I told him something about his wife. Big fucking deal. Its not the norm on this site but it happens. I'm still here. Not sure that he is.
Tell you what IS the norm on this site...SUPPORT. It will come in different forms. Tough love, support from your quit groups, support in the forums, support in chat, support from texts, etc...
Only thing I can think of that offers more support is my jock strap, because my crank looks like a pringles can stuck between two softballs with a half a grapefruit on top.
Stick around kid.
Don't you dare leave, Braker...I am invested in your quit. I am a Lady and I have to put up with all sorts of shit on this site....it is worth it for the unparalleled help I get to stay quit. I just grew balls...yours just need to grow bigger and titanium. :)
For that reason alone ^^^^ you need to hang bro!
It's all just words man... Some of it's personal opinion... Some of it's offensive... Some of it's useful... Some of it's not... Some of it's brilliant... Some of it's profound... Some of it's bullshit... Whatever. ALL of it is about ALL of us being quit. Take and use what you need... Ignore the rest. Stay quit. Glad to quit with you today...
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Breaker,,, where the are you at? I dont have you on roll since 6-27! Get your ass back in here and post with us before you fuck up, if you have already fucked up get your ass back in and be a man like Matt F (the guy you bashed for what you are doing) and post a day one in October.
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Breaker,,, where the are you at? I dont have you on roll since 6-27! Get your ass back in here and post with us before you fuck up, if you have already fucked up get your ass back in and be a man like Matt F (the guy you bashed for what you are doing) and post a day one in October.
Don't know where frat boy went to has to be long outta college by now looking back over some of the thread. Sounds like she called his name....
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Breaker,,, where the are you at? I dont have you on roll since 6-27! Get your ass back in here and post with us before you fuck up, if you have already fucked up get your ass back in and be a man like Matt F (the guy you bashed for what you are doing) and post a day one in October.
Don't know where frat boy went to has to be long outta college by now looking back over some of the thread. Sounds like she called his name....
I spoke to him this morning and he says he is still quit! He does not want to be on the site because the site makes him crave chew.... If not on the site he NEVER thinks about chew. I told him he needs to come back. Unless he is an anomaly, It is not possible IMO to be quit such a short time and Never think about chew! That defies all logic when it comes to the laws of addiction! I know today that I will still battle this addiction 10.20.30.40 years from now! This has all the makings of a planned cave!
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Breaker,,, where the are you at? I dont have you on roll since 6-27! Get your ass back in here and post with us before you fuck up, if you have already fucked up get your ass back in and be a man like Matt F (the guy you bashed for what you are doing) and post a day one in October.
Don't know where frat boy went to has to be long outta college by now looking back over some of the thread. Sounds like she called his name....
I spoke to him this morning and he says he is still quit! He does not want to be on the site because the site makes him crave chew.... If not on the site he NEVER thinks about chew. I told him he needs to come back. Unless he is an anomaly, It is not possible IMO to be quit such a short time and Never think about chew! That defies all logic when it comes to the laws of addiction! I know today that I will still battle this addiction 10.20.30.40 years from now! This has all the makings of a planned cave!
Get his promise via text.
It's not for us. It's for him.
Don't break down those walls of communication.
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Breaker,,, where the are you at? I dont have you on roll since 6-27! Get your ass back in here and post with us before you fuck up, if you have already fucked up get your ass back in and be a man like Matt F (the guy you bashed for what you are doing) and post a day one in October.
Don't know where frat boy went to has to be long outta college by now looking back over some of the thread. Sounds like she called his name....
I spoke to him this morning and he says he is still quit! He does not want to be on the site because the site makes him crave chew.... If not on the site he NEVER thinks about chew. I told him he needs to come back. Unless he is an anomaly, It is not possible IMO to be quit such a short time and Never think about chew! That defies all logic when it comes to the laws of addiction! I know today that I will still battle this addiction 10.20.30.40 years from now! This has all the makings of a planned cave!
Get his promise via text.
It's not for us. It's for him.
Don't break down those walls of communication.
Great idea.... I just text him and made that offer!
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Breaker,,, where the are you at? I dont have you on roll since 6-27! Get your ass back in here and post with us before you fuck up, if you have already fucked up get your ass back in and be a man like Matt F (the guy you bashed for what you are doing) and post a day one in October.
Don't know where frat boy went to has to be long outta college by now looking back over some of the thread. Sounds like she called his name....
I spoke to him this morning and he says he is still quit! He does not want to be on the site because the site makes him crave chew.... If not on the site he NEVER thinks about chew. I told him he needs to come back. Unless he is an anomaly, It is not possible IMO to be quit such a short time and Never think about chew! That defies all logic when it comes to the laws of addiction! I know today that I will still battle this addiction 10.20.30.40 years from now! This has all the makings of a planned cave!
Get his promise via text.
It's not for us. It's for him.
Don't break down those walls of communication.
Great idea.... I just text him and made that offer!
I offered it too. He hasn't responded to it. I told him I can't drag him back but that when he did crave he would wish he had his promise posted up here. He hasn't responded to me.