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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: goldenarm89 on September 17, 2012, 12:50:00 AM
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I dont know if i should be posting in here new to the site. Anyway Im quitting tomorrow morning starting fresh Im doing this all for my self since no one has a problem with me chewing except me. Tired of the spitters or having to swallow when around people you don't know. Im guessing im in the DEC 12 group.
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Welcome to KTC. Go to the welcome center and read everything posted on that page. Today is a new day. You can do it.
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Why wait until tomorrow? Today is a perfectly fine day to Quit. In fact, I quit today. Anyone else quit today?
Tomorrow sucks. Today is great.
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Why wait until tomorrow? Today is a perfectly fine day to Quit. In fact, I quit today. Anyone else quit today?
Tomorrow sucks. Today is great.
I'm in.
Know my favorite part about quitting today? It's always "today."
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There is no tomorrow . Today today today today. Do it .
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There is no tomorrow . Today today today today. Do it .
quit today why wait..........
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remember the adage - tommorrow never comes, because when it does it is today again.
So start today.
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I've seen hundreds of people tell us tomorrow is going to be the day they start. Most of them don't show back up when tomorrow comes.
Flush the shit and quit.
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Well I was going to bed so I figured hey I'll start fresh in the morning and I did its been 12 hours since I dipped.
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Well I was going to bed so I figured hey I'll start fresh in the morning and I did its been 12 hours since I dipped.
Congrats. In that case, you are on Day 2! Well done.
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Well I was going to bed so I figured hey I'll start fresh in the morning and I did its been 12 hours since I dipped.
I saw your name on roll call. Way to go!
The cravings are going to start hitting real damn hard. You CAN do this. One craving at a time is how you get through the withdrawal.
Come on here, read, and bitch us out if it helps.
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Any tips to getting a nights rest ? It's my 3rd day off the shit last night didn't sleep at all.
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Any tips to getting a nights rest ? It's my 3rd day off the shit last night didn't sleep at all.
Aaaah the sleepless nights! Dont miss those my friend. Nyquil worked well for me, your body and mind are just going through the adjustments. It sucks, but what would suck worse is to start all over again. Hang in there man, this will pass.
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I worked out (ran / walk / weights) to make myself extra tired to try and sleep those early quit days. It will get better.
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Melatonin, it's a non-addictive supplement that your body produces naturally, google it and get some, it works.
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Any tips to getting a nights rest ? It's my 3rd day off the shit last night didn't sleep at all.
Aaaah the sleepless nights! Dont miss those my friend. Nyquil worked well for me, your body and mind are just going through the adjustments. It sucks, but what would suck worse is to start all over again. Hang in there man, this will pass.
'crackup'
Roam did you see what time you made that post! Your like me you never sleep.
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Melatonin 1/2 hour before bed, or pick up some Unisom. I went 2-3 days with no sleep early on in my quit too. Once I got some sleep thing got instantly better. I found myself checking out at 8-9pm just so I didn't have to deal with the wife/kids as well since I was a prick anyway, they didn't mind either. I was in a heavy fog, but the good news is it lifted. Also go take a long power walk to tire you out and get rid of some rage. Quit on and let us know how you are doing.
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go talk to your brothers in the december 12 quit group, I know for a fact a few of them have had a hell of a time with no sleep, and I know that they have made it through and things are better now. Talk to them they are right where you are. (it really will get better!)
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goldenarm89,
IÂ’m in December with you, I'm day 9 quit. Not much sleep for me either. I keep waking up at around 2am after going to sleep around midnight. I've also starting to see these weird black shadow figures in the corners of rooms and where the wall meets the ceiling. The black shadow figures are only a figment of my nicotine starved brain, IÂ’ve been telling myself, but now I not so sure. IÂ’ve been trying to catch one of the figures for two nights now, and last night I actually caught one, itÂ’s in a jarÂ…Â… oh wait, you asked how to get some sleep, not how to get committed. Drink some Nyquil! Sleep like a baby for at least 6 hoursÂ…..
Dozer
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Melatonin, it's a non-addictive supplement that your body produces naturally, google it and get some, it works.
Valerian is another natural sleep aid, smells bad but helped me. While we're talking about herbal shit I've found St. John's Wort useful for anxiety and depression. Prescription drugs scare me.....getting rid of addictions here, not picking up new ones.
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Melatonin, it's a non-addictive supplement that your body produces naturally, google it and get some, it works.
Valerian is another natural sleep aid, smells bad but helped me. While we're talking about herbal shit I've found St. John's Wort useful for anxiety and depression. Prescription drugs scare me.....getting rid of addictions here, not picking up new ones.
Personally, I agree...no pills. But, I also was corrected on that issue recently. My new attitude is that you should do what you AND YOUR DOCTOR think you should do to remain quit.
Some people need a doctor's help for the anxiety/sleeplessness. Everybody is different. I didn't sleep normally for weeks...more than two or three, I think. But I didn't have anxiety. I would just surf the interenet (found this site that way) or watch TV. I didn't try to fight it. I knew what was causing it, and I saw it for what it was...the nicotine withdrawal mind-fuck. And I actually embraced the sleepless nights because that was me earning my freedom...one day, and one sleepless night, at a time.
I've heard Nyquil works...Benadryl, too. 2 extra-strength Tylenol sorta worked for me after a few weeks...but maybe I would have been sleeping anyway at that point? Talk to the bad-ass quitting experts on this site and talk to a doctor if you think it will help. But, don't get angry at the sleepless nights. Don't just lay there tossing and turning. Get up, learn to laugh at your condition, and relax knowing that it will get better.
Stay strong, brother!!!
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Something else that might help, although it's not always possible is to take a nap during the middle of the day. Your brain needs about 5-9 hours of sleep each 24 hours to function well (each person is different) but your brain doesn't need it all at once. Some people can't take naps during the day, but if you can it will help.
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Good advice with taking naps if you can. I work from home when not traveling and napped like a fucking teenager the last two weeks. It does help!
Also look into some breathing exercises. Google it and you'll find something. It's simple and more of a relaxation technique. I do it now and then but can't focus for 5 straight minutes to really get to sleep with that but it does slow the brain down a bit.
Nice handle. Would like to here the story behind that one. Assume you played some ball. Me too but it would be more like slow and hard headed. LMAO!!!
Good luck with your quit!
Jax
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hay man i rote bout havin troubel sleepin in my intro erly on. shood be on like the last page. its that bestest thred link rite there in my sig line. man i rote all kinds a stuff to help out other quiterers there.
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Sleep is highly overated. On of these days you will get way more than you need.
Seriously, sleep will return to normal in a couple of weeks. It gets better!
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 Get up, learn to laugh at your condition, and relax knowing that it will get better.Â
This seems like a really good perspective for me and my QUIT. Thanks.
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Thanks for all the tips.. I know what not getting sleep is like try pulling a 32 hour shift what I do for a living it happens all to often that's why I want to get as much as I can.
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Just adapt and keep moving forward GA. Love what Bean said, and anything Drome is quit gold. Watch your caffine levels, exercise, and be as productive as you can. Too much computer/tv time can trick your brain on the whole daylight thing too ive heard. I have a pretty messed up schedule, and still fight periods of insomnia. BUT....I had them before quitting too. Don't romanticize with the Bitch...it was not better with her. A little less sleep? Fuck it and move on.
Vadge 252.
(going to go try and sleep now.......)
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My entire life I had never had a problem getting a great nights sleep. When I quit dipping though, about 1 month into it, I went three straight nights only getting 1-3 hrs of sleep when normally I go to bed and fall out in no time and sleep through the whole night. You just gotta ride it out. Then, about 2 months in, I had a stretch of about 3 weeks straight that I had a super weird dream EVERY night, when normally I would have a dream maybe once every few months that I could remember. Its some crazy stuff no doubt, just take it for what it is and ride it out. One of the best things is just submitting to the fact that the withdrawal is causing all your problems and that will give you the courage to get through each phase, knowing that there IS a light at the end of the tunnel.
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I am to the point when i see someone dipping i get discussed i dont know why i started oh wait i remember to piss my parents off way to go piss your parents off by killing yourself .
And yes i feel that the nic bitch is a addiction watched my best friend go to rehab many times trying to quit meth thank goodness i never started that shit but looking back how am i any different being addicted to something that makes you dig around the house and truck to find change to buy a can with At one time i thought i was cooler than them punk asses that couldnt stomach it but now i think what a dumb ass i was...
I guess i just wanted to clear my head of some thoughts didnt really know if i should post it in my group or ? But anyway today was the hardest since day one making contacts on here helps just sending a text telling someone good morning that is going thru the same thing makes you think how can i be so weak to cave when your brother is right there going thru it to.
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I find that sometimes it helps just to blurt the shit out on my own thread. It doesn't really matter if anyone else agrees or comments or anything. Sometimes you just gotta say your piece. I am with you bro.
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Yep, Just keep ranting. I do the same thing, it helps to clear my head, and keeps other people alive!
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anybody think i can wake up the drunk college kids across from my apartment like 20 feet from my truck with me miller 302 trailblazer when i get up for work?
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Hang in there goldenarm89. You are off to a great start.
I have spent my whole carrer in industrial design, maintenance, and construction. Spit tobacco is as engrained in the construction trades as it is in baseball. Most of the places we worked do not allow smoking so we dipped.
"Hey, that young project engineer is alright. He dipps too."
No. I was not alright. I am an educated professional. I knew it was no good for me. It was something that I was ashamed of. I will get over the cravings but I do not know if I will ever get over the shame and embarasment of being a user of spit tobbaco. I am not a person of selfish pride. I can be humble about many things but I still have a hard time discussing my addiction with someone face-to-face. I dreaded going to the dentist because I knew he would ask me if I still dipped. Sometimes I wanted to cry.
This time it is different. I will keep the faith. I will finish the race, and I will not let any of you nor myself down. Today, goldenarm89 I quit with you.
TheEngineer
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anybody think i can wake up the drunk college kids across from my apartment like 20 feet from my truck with me miller 302 trailblazer when i get up for work?
Pour water under their door, hook one lead to door knob and other in the water. Turn that trail blazer on high and knock. Those drunk boys will come to the door barefooted. That'll wake them up! I have a little miller bobcat 3 phase, wish I had the trailblazer. Lol
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anybody think i can wake up the drunk college kids across from my apartment like 20 feet from my truck with me miller 302 trailblazer when i get up for work?
Pour water under their door, hook one lead to door knob and other in the water. Turn that trail blazer on high and knock. Those drunk boys will come to the door barefooted. That'll wake them up! I have a little miller bobcat 3 phase, wish I had the trailblazer. Lol
Gosh I'm feeling some hard core super evil craves tonight. Son of a bitch. Anyway miller jus came out with a 325 trailblazer efi and 5 inches shorter about 100 # lighter to also it would take 12 new 325 trailblazers to sound as loud as one 302.
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The weight u gain from quit dip does it come off after a while?
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There seems to be a couple schools of thought. One is why take on more burden than necessary at this point. You're fighting off addiction and should only focus on that and do the very best you can to overcome the struggle of withdrawal and rediscovering what a non-using life is. If the weight goes on, the weight can come off. We'll focus on one problem at a time.
That seems quite rational. My advice would be to exercise. Exercise until you bleed from your eyeballs. When you've got that extra "live wire" feeling from a crave, exercise. Why not make this a wholesale change? Make an entire life change and strive towards more exercise and scrutinizing your diet. One, you'll be tired. Being tired you'll sleep better. If you're rested, you'll make better decisions. Second, you stuffed poison consciously into your body. Why not give it a break and put in some good food? That too will help keep you in a rational mind. I look at it as being proactive to staying quit. Just my take.
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At day 61 I have added 18 pounds. That is with running 20 to 25 miles a week. I was really worried about this too. I know my appetite has increased without nicotine and with the increased exercise.
Up through my first 100 days I am going to err on the side of my quit. I am trying to eat healthier and reduce my portions. However, if a crave is kicking my ass, I will eat. My quit is more important than my weight right now.
As I have progressed, I have noticed more control over my quit, my emotions and myself in general. I will get past 100 and then kick the weight gain in pants.
Hope this helps. Quittin with you each day.
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Melatonin, it's a non-addictive supplement that your body produces naturally, google it and get some, it works.
Valerian is another natural sleep aid, smells bad but helped me. While we're talking about herbal shit I've found St. John's Wort useful for anxiety and depression. Prescription drugs scare me.....getting rid of addictions here, not picking up new ones.
Personally, I agree...no pills. But, I also was corrected on that issue recently. My new attitude is that you should do what you AND YOUR DOCTOR think you should do to remain quit.
Some people need a doctor's help for the anxiety/sleeplessness. Everybody is different. I didn't sleep normally for weeks...more than two or three, I think. But I didn't have anxiety. I would just surf the interenet (found this site that way) or watch TV. I didn't try to fight it. I knew what was causing it, and I saw it for what it was...the nicotine withdrawal mind-fuck. And I actually embraced the sleepless nights because that was me earning my freedom...one day, and one sleepless night, at a time.
I've heard Nyquil works...Benadryl, too. 2 extra-strength Tylenol sorta worked for me after a few weeks...but maybe I would have been sleeping anyway at that point? Talk to the bad-ass quitting experts on this site and talk to a doctor if you think it will help. But, don't get angry at the sleepless nights. Don't just lay there tossing and turning. Get up, learn to laugh at your condition, and relax knowing that it will get better.
Stay strong, brother!!!
A side note on melatonin, after using it over a period of two to three weeks a couple of times I finally realized that it was responsible for giving me the raging shits...really bad. They don't warn you about this possibility on the bottle and I'm sure this is not a problem for everyone. Too bad because I really enjoyed the sedative effect.