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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Nomore1011 on December 02, 2013, 01:46:00 AM
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Hey my name is Chris. I quit dippin Griz Wintergreen 14 days and 6 hours ago. Yes, every hour feels like a milestone. Today was a really hard day but this site is already helping. I am using an app on my phone called quit smoking I just put the chew stats in to adjust the numbers. I quit with a buddy so we are helping each other out. Currently seeds and gum are my best friends, but things are starting to get easier. I look forward to meeting some of you!
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Hey my name is Chris. I quit dippin Griz Wintergreen 14 days and 6 hours ago. Yes, every hour feels like a milestone. Today was a really hard day but this site is already helping. I am using an app on my phone called quit smoking I just put the chew stats in to adjust the numbers. I quit with a buddy so we are helping each other out. Currently seeds and gum are my best friends, but things are starting to get easier. I look forward to meeting some of you!
First of all, welcome. Can you explain the quit smoking app. It sounded to me like you are still using, but in increments or something. I could be wrong, if you could explain a little more.
This site is for people that are quitting cold turkey. We don't use nicotine replacement therapy or nicotine in any form period. We actually QUIT once and for all. We post roll and keep our word each and every day. 1000's have used this site to quit and you can to.
Go to the top left and read in the welcome center. Read how and why we post roll. Pay particular attention to why. This is how quitting is really done friend. We use determination, drive and accountability. You can keep your word for a day right?
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Nice job of posting roll in Feb. 2014 quit group Chris...and welcome to KTC. Pm me if you need anything. Congrats on taking back control of your life.
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Srans, All the app really does is keep track of how long it has been and after a couple hours it says at this point so and so is recovering and things like that. I have been completely nicotine and tobacco free for 15 days not. I am not continuing to use, I have quit cold turkey and am now just getting on the site.
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Srans, All the app really does is keep track of how long it has been and after a couple hours it says at this point so and so is recovering and things like that. I have been completely nicotine and tobacco free for 15 days not. I am not continuing to use, I have quit cold turkey and am now just getting on the site.
Apolgies my friend. I actually checked the app out after my quote, pretty cool.
Again welcome. Great job posting roll and 15 days quit is a great start. I recommend you began filling your head with quit knowledge. There is a lot of information on this site. Learn your enemy, it knows you.
If you need anything give me a shout. Glad to be quit with you.
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I know this sounds really fucking stupid, but since my HOF date I feel like I am back at square one. All I can think about is getting some dip. I know inside I don't wanna cave, these craves are fucked up. Part of me feels like I could just dip a tin and quit again. Obviously I do not believe this, the fucking bitch is talking and trying to get me back in her grasp. Has anyone else experience this?
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I know this sounds really fucking stupid, but since my HOF date I feel like I am back at square one. All I can think about is getting some dip. I know inside I don't wanna cave, these craves are fucked up. Part of me feels like I could just dip a tin and quit again. Obviously I do not believe this, the fucking bitch is talking and trying to get me back in her grasp. Has anyone else experience this?
The voice will never go away, that's why Posting Roll is vital. I had quit for 3 years before. I got pissed off at someone and the nic bitch knew I was weak. She fu$ing won then but will not win now. It's not worth it. You dip now, you are screwed. It's harder to quit the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time. Quit now for today. Stay dip free. Refuse to use
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I know this sounds really fucking stupid, but since my HOF date I feel like I am back at square one. All I can think about is getting some dip. I know inside I don't wanna cave, these craves are fucked up. Part of me feels like I could just dip a tin and quit again. Obviously I do not believe this, the fucking bitch is talking and trying to get me back in her grasp. Has anyone else experience this?
The voice will never go away, that's why Posting Roll is vital. I had quit for 3 years before. I got pissed off at someone and the nic bitch knew I was weak. She fu$ing won then but will not win now. It's not worth it. You dip now, you are screwed. It's harder to quit the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time. Quit now for today. Stay dip free. Refuse to use
This is why you post roll every day. 100 days is not a magic cure.
Keep it at bay, one day at a time.
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100 days is just a license to learn Cpoz. It's one day at a time from here on out. I do think I see what you mean though. It is much easier for me now to stave off the bitch. It should be for you too. Are there any external things affecting you? Stress, etc. also, I have noticed the Nic Bitch is much better when I'm down on myself or I believe that I have failed at something else, or I'm not sure of myself. Depression and low self esteem can also play a part.
I'm not diagnosing you with any of that, I'm just asking if there are any outside contributors to you having such strong craves.
Then again, you been at this just as long as I have. Maybe we need an elder quitter to come here and give some lessons.
I quit with ya cpoz and don't wish a craving upon you.
Chris
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As most of you in my group know, about a week ago I felt a need to try and go without KTC. I still feel one day I will be able to stay quit without posting everyday. Today that is not the case. I want to apologize to you guys for not really taking your advice. I can feel my quit getting weaker not posting and talking to you guys. The good news is I am still quit. I do not remember who said "Do what got you here." but right not that is hitting hard. I need to go back go to chewing on seeds, educating myself, and staying ghey with FFFOQ FEB 2014! That starts with posting roll, even if I need to shoot a text to someone else.
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As most of you in my group know, about a week ago I felt a need to try and go without KTC. I still feel one day I will be able to stay quit without posting everyday. Today that is not the case. I want to apologize to you guys for not really taking your advice. I can feel my quit getting weaker not posting and talking to you guys. The good news is I am still quit. I do not remember who said "Do what got you here." but right not that is hitting hard. I need to go back go to chewing on seeds, educating myself, and staying ghey with FFFOQ FEB 2014! That starts with posting roll, even if I need to shoot a text to someone else.
I'm not really sure I understand why you feel the need to distance yourself from KTC at some point. Do you think it's a crutch? Do you think your quit isn't as "manly" because you're not doing it on your own? Do you think that after "x" amount of time you'll be cured of your addiction? "Thank you KTC! I'm all better now"?
This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
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As most of you in my group know, about a week ago I felt a need to try and go without KTC. I still feel one day I will be able to stay quit without posting everyday. Today that is not the case. I want to apologize to you guys for not really taking your advice. I can feel my quit getting weaker not posting and talking to you guys. The good news is I am still quit. I do not remember who said "Do what got you here." but right not that is hitting hard. I need to go back go to chewing on seeds, educating myself, and staying ghey with FFFOQ FEB 2014! That starts with posting roll, even if I need to shoot a text to someone else.
I'm not really sure I understand why you feel the need to distance yourself from KTC at some point. Do you think it's a crutch? Do you think your quit isn't as "manly" because you're not doing it on your own? Do you think that after "x" amount of time you'll be cured of your addiction? "Thank you KTC! I'm all better now"?
This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
If KTC is a Crutch and Not Manly, Then I am a broken legged pansy cuz I am never leaving here no matter how good I start feeling. If you start feeling so good that you don't think you need to post roll, you probably feel that good BECAUSE you've been posting roll. Why screw up a proven thing. It only takes a minute. I wasted hours everyday dipping. Small, Small price to pay for freedom.
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As most of you in my group know, about a week ago I felt a need to try and go without KTC. I still feel one day I will be able to stay quit without posting everyday. Today that is not the case. I want to apologize to you guys for not really taking your advice. I can feel my quit getting weaker not posting and talking to you guys. The good news is I am still quit. I do not remember who said "Do what got you here." but right not that is hitting hard. I need to go back go to chewing on seeds, educating myself, and staying ghey with FFFOQ FEB 2014! That starts with posting roll, even if I need to shoot a text to someone else.
I'm not really sure I understand why you feel the need to distance yourself from KTC at some point. Do you think it's a crutch? Do you think your quit isn't as "manly" because you're not doing it on your own? Do you think that after "x" amount of time you'll be cured of your addiction? "Thank you KTC! I'm all better now"?
This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
If KTC is a Crutch and Not Manly, Then I am a broken legged pansy cuz I am never leaving here no matter how good I start feeling. If you start feeling so good that you don't think you need to post roll, you probably feel that good BECAUSE you've been posting roll. Why screw up a proven thing. It only takes a minute. I wasted hours everyday dipping. Small, Small price to pay for freedom.
CPOZ -
if I may, check the top of your page, in the header it does say online community. But I want to ask , keep aside the word online, and try to define what community means to you. Is it looking out for your neighbor? Is it making a friend or two (or more)? Is it asking out for help when you need it?
It is not weak to do these things above, in fact it is more than smart.
So if I may say, don't turn your back on any of your friends here. Stick around, incorporate the quitting, this site and these friends into your life and family. You will find much more strength, joy and happiness when you do.
remember:
Accountability + Brotherhood = Success
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this intro has taught me a huge lesson. a big "Thank You" to all of you. I understand and I will be here.
Never again, whatever it takes. NAWIT.
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What happened?
Why did it happen?
WhatÂ’s going to be different this time?
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What happened?
An unexcusable event. I was helping a friend of mine move in to his first place. IÂ’ve been his friend since I was 3 years old. I was helping build his bed frame. A friend walked in and asked if we needed anything from a liquor store, I asked her to get me a tin. A terrible reason I understand. It clearly was not worth it and wish I could go back and change my decision.
Why did it happen?
Continuing question 1. It happened because I was feeling such a high about my buddy moving in. I felt invincible at the time. I was so excited that he was getting out of his drug addicted brotherÂ’s house and moving in to his own. It was a great night (or so I thought) and I made a terrible mistake.
WhatÂ’s going to be different this time?
This time I have a better understanding of my reason for quitting. When I quit before it was nice and convenient. This time I realize there is no benefit to using. I use to think that it caused some sort of special feeling/power. Clearly that is not that case. I use to think that it was cool to have a tin in your pocket, or have the “skoal ring.” Again, clearly that is not the case. I am willing to do whatever It takes to make sure this time is the final time. I will need help along the journey and I am the first to admit that. I hope that someone will be willing to take me under their wing to help me through the process because clearly I cannot do it alone.
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I need more details on your cave. What went through your mind when you took the steps to shove that shit back in your mouth? What went through your mind when you ignored us?
I'll quit with you if you can talk about what your self betrayal feels like.
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This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
AJ laid this out pretty clearly for you before you left last time. You didn't learn anything here, you haven't changed since your last time here. I have a few questions for you... answer all these and I will root for you.
Why will the results be different?
How long did you hump the can after your cave?
The entire time between your last post and yesterday?
What was that 100 days, 150?
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one?
Did you get any numbers last time you were here?
Did you give yours to anyone?
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can?
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back?
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time?
Did you support anyone else?
Will you this time?
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This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
AJ laid this out pretty clearly for you before you left last time. You didn't learn anything here, you haven't changed since your last time here. I have a few questions for you... answer all these and I will root for you.
Why will the results be different?
How long did you hump the can after your cave?
The entire time between your last post and yesterday?
What was that 100 days, 150?
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one?
Did you get any numbers last time you were here?
Did you give yours to anyone?
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can?
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back?
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time?
Did you support anyone else?
Will you this time?
Why will the results be different? I believe that the results will be different this time because I am going to make myself be more accountable for my days. In addition to posting in the page, I will continue to text members of my old group. I am planning on spending more time on these forums overall. By doing this I will be more accountable for my actions, as well as closer with my fellow quitting brothers.
How long did you hump the can after your cave? I continued to dip for the entire 8 months that I was off of this website.
The entire time between your last post and yesterday? Yes.
What was that 100 days, 150? Roughly 240 days.
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one? I would say about 150 tins. Roughly $600 dollars. Every tin that I bought, i honestly thought about how I needed to attempt to quit again.
Did you get any numbers last time you were here? Yes, I have about 10 different numbers.
Did you give yours to anyone? Yes, I gave mine out to about 10 people.
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can? I made connections with a couple of people. Learned a lot of interesting things from the people here.
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back? I expected it to be the way it is right now. I realize I fucked up for a while. You all don't trust me right now and I don't blame you.
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time? Yes, I posted in other groups. I also enjoyed talking in the sports rooms.
Did you support anyone else? I attempted to support others. I gave out my phone number and welcomed new members, hoping that I could help someone else quit.
Will you this time? I Want to support others. I look forward to meeting people in my group and staying active in my group. Right now, i ultimately need to regather myself before I can even trust myself to help others.
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This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
AJ laid this out pretty clearly for you before you left last time. You didn't learn anything here, you haven't changed since your last time here. I have a few questions for you... answer all these and I will root for you.
Why will the results be different?
How long did you hump the can after your cave?
The entire time between your last post and yesterday?
What was that 100 days, 150?
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one?
Did you get any numbers last time you were here?
Did you give yours to anyone?
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can?
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back?
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time?
Did you support anyone else?
Will you this time?
Why will the results be different? I believe that the results will be different this time because I am going to make myself be more accountable for my days. In addition to posting in the page, I will continue to text members of my old group. I am planning on spending more time on these forums overall. By doing this I will be more accountable for my actions, as well as closer with my fellow quitting brothers.
How long did you hump the can after your cave? I continued to dip for the entire 8 months that I was off of this website.
The entire time between your last post and yesterday? Yes.
What was that 100 days, 150? Roughly 240 days.
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one? I would say about 150 tins. Roughly $600 dollars. Every tin that I bought, i honestly thought about how I needed to attempt to quit again.
Did you get any numbers last time you were here? Yes, I have about 10 different numbers.
Did you give yours to anyone? Yes, I gave mine out to about 10 people.
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can? I made connections with a couple of people. Learned a lot of interesting things from the people here.
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back? I expected it to be the way it is right now. I realize I fucked up for a while. You all don't trust me right now and I don't blame you.
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time? Yes, I posted in other groups. I also enjoyed talking in the sports rooms.
Did you support anyone else? I attempted to support others. I gave out my phone number and welcomed new members, hoping that I could help someone else quit.
Will you this time? I Want to support others. I look forward to meeting people in my group and staying active in my group. Right now, i ultimately need to regather myself before I can even trust myself to help others.
So I guess the real questions should be- if, as you claim, you had ten numbers, did you ever use them? Did you ever text one of your quit bros? Why didn't you text one when you were about to chew. You say you gave out your number to 10 people, did anyone ever call you when you went MIA?
Wondering where the system broke down for you, because it sounds like you think you were doing things right. A few days before your cave, you talked about how that time of year made you want to chew, so it seems like you were thinking about it for a while.
Theres a problem with your math by the way. You were still posting roll in mid-april.
That was six months ago.
However, you were one these idiots that likes to post " +1 " instead of a real number.
Were you posting +1 after each cave? i.e.- what is the day of your cave?
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This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
AJ laid this out pretty clearly for you before you left last time. You didn't learn anything here, you haven't changed since your last time here. I have a few questions for you... answer all these and I will root for you.
Why will the results be different?
How long did you hump the can after your cave?
The entire time between your last post and yesterday?
What was that 100 days, 150?
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one?
Did you get any numbers last time you were here?
Did you give yours to anyone?
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can?
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back?
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time?
Did you support anyone else?
Will you this time?
Why will the results be different? I believe that the results will be different this time because I am going to make myself be more accountable for my days. In addition to posting in the page, I will continue to text members of my old group. I am planning on spending more time on these forums overall. By doing this I will be more accountable for my actions, as well as closer with my fellow quitting brothers.
How long did you hump the can after your cave? I continued to dip for the entire 8 months that I was off of this website.
The entire time between your last post and yesterday? Yes.
What was that 100 days, 150? Roughly 240 days.
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one? I would say about 150 tins. Roughly $600 dollars. Every tin that I bought, i honestly thought about how I needed to attempt to quit again.
Did you get any numbers last time you were here? Yes, I have about 10 different numbers.
Did you give yours to anyone? Yes, I gave mine out to about 10 people.
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can? I made connections with a couple of people. Learned a lot of interesting things from the people here.
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back? I expected it to be the way it is right now. I realize I fucked up for a while. You all don't trust me right now and I don't blame you.
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time? Yes, I posted in other groups. I also enjoyed talking in the sports rooms.
Did you support anyone else? I attempted to support others. I gave out my phone number and welcomed new members, hoping that I could help someone else quit.
Will you this time? I Want to support others. I look forward to meeting people in my group and staying active in my group. Right now, i ultimately need to regather myself before I can even trust myself to help others.
So I guess the real questions should be- if, as you claim, you had ten numbers, did you ever use them? Did you ever text one of your quit bros? Why didn't you text one when you were about to chew. You say you gave out your number to 10 people, did anyone ever call you when you went MIA?
Wondering where the system broke down for you, because it sounds like you think you were doing things right. A few days before your cave, you talked about how that time of year made you want to chew, so it seems like you were thinking about it for a while.
Theres a problem with your math by the way. You were still posting roll in mid-april.
That was six months ago.
However, you were one these idiots that likes to post " +1 " instead of a real number.
Were you posting +1 after each cave? i.e.- what is the day of your cave?
I can tell you honestly that I never posted roll after I caved. So yes, it is 6 months not 8 I simply made a mistake in my math.
I did not call anyone at the time. I had people text me a couple of times looking for me and I was too embarrassed to respond in all honestly.
You are correct before it happened, I was progressively craving more and more. I did not intend to cave (not sure that anyone does.) Again, I made the mistake at this time of not reaching out to others and looking for help.
I would appreciate it if you would talk to me as a person and not as an idiot. And according to your post in the January group, you don't ever plan to interact with me so I guess I am wondering why you're asking so many questions if you don't give a shit about me... " But I don't really give a shit, because I will never interact with this caver. I don't have the time to waste,"
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This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
AJ laid this out pretty clearly for you before you left last time. You didn't learn anything here, you haven't changed since your last time here. I have a few questions for you... answer all these and I will root for you.
Why will the results be different?
How long did you hump the can after your cave?
The entire time between your last post and yesterday?
What was that 100 days, 150?
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one?
Did you get any numbers last time you were here?
Did you give yours to anyone?
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can?
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back?
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time?
Did you support anyone else?
Will you this time?
Why will the results be different? I believe that the results will be different this time because I am going to make myself be more accountable for my days. In addition to posting in the page, I will continue to text members of my old group. I am planning on spending more time on these forums overall. By doing this I will be more accountable for my actions, as well as closer with my fellow quitting brothers.
How long did you hump the can after your cave? I continued to dip for the entire 8 months that I was off of this website.
The entire time between your last post and yesterday? Yes.
What was that 100 days, 150? Roughly 240 days.
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one? I would say about 150 tins. Roughly $600 dollars. Every tin that I bought, i honestly thought about how I needed to attempt to quit again.
Did you get any numbers last time you were here? Yes, I have about 10 different numbers.
Did you give yours to anyone? Yes, I gave mine out to about 10 people.
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can? I made connections with a couple of people. Learned a lot of interesting things from the people here.
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back? I expected it to be the way it is right now. I realize I fucked up for a while. You all don't trust me right now and I don't blame you.
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time? Yes, I posted in other groups. I also enjoyed talking in the sports rooms.
Did you support anyone else? I attempted to support others. I gave out my phone number and welcomed new members, hoping that I could help someone else quit.
Will you this time? I Want to support others. I look forward to meeting people in my group and staying active in my group. Right now, i ultimately need to regather myself before I can even trust myself to help others.
So I guess the real questions should be- if, as you claim, you had ten numbers, did you ever use them? Did you ever text one of your quit bros? Why didn't you text one when you were about to chew. You say you gave out your number to 10 people, did anyone ever call you when you went MIA?
Wondering where the system broke down for you, because it sounds like you think you were doing things right. A few days before your cave, you talked about how that time of year made you want to chew, so it seems like you were thinking about it for a while.
Theres a problem with your math by the way. You were still posting roll in mid-april.
That was six months ago.
However, you were one these idiots that likes to post " +1 " instead of a real number.
Were you posting +1 after each cave? i.e.- what is the day of your cave?
I can tell you honestly that I never posted roll after I caved. So yes, it is 6 months not 8 I simply made a mistake in my math.
I did not call anyone at the time. I had people text me a couple of times looking for me and I was too embarrassed to respond in all honestly.
You are correct before it happened, I was progressively craving more and more. I did not intend to cave (not sure that anyone does.) Again, I made the mistake at this time of not reaching out to others and looking for help.
I would appreciate it if you would talk to me as a person and not as an idiot. And according to your post in the January group, you don't ever plan to interact with me so I guess I am wondering why you're asking so many questions if you don't give a shit about me... " But I don't really give a shit, because I will never interact with this caver. I don't have the time to waste,"
Here's the phrase you used above that in and of itself has the greatest chance of propelling you to be quit: I am planning on spending more time on these forums overall.
Not saying you can't be quit without KTC. What I am saying is more involvement and postings here drive a better understanding of what it takes to be quit. It's not easy. Far from easy, hell you know that. What is gained from more involvement? More support for new quitters, more support for those in January. Knowledge of what you did wrong round 1 and how you can bring that knowledge to your new team. Trade more numbers, increase accountability by being in a text group.
All these words above are just that. Regain trust with actions. Show us you have what it takes.
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This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
AJ laid this out pretty clearly for you before you left last time. You didn't learn anything here, you haven't changed since your last time here. I have a few questions for you... answer all these and I will root for you.
Why will the results be different?
How long did you hump the can after your cave?
The entire time between your last post and yesterday?
What was that 100 days, 150?
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one?
Did you get any numbers last time you were here?
Did you give yours to anyone?
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can?
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back?
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time?
Did you support anyone else?
Will you this time?
Why will the results be different? I believe that the results will be different this time because I am going to make myself be more accountable for my days. In addition to posting in the page, I will continue to text members of my old group. I am planning on spending more time on these forums overall. By doing this I will be more accountable for my actions, as well as closer with my fellow quitting brothers.
How long did you hump the can after your cave? I continued to dip for the entire 8 months that I was off of this website.
The entire time between your last post and yesterday? Yes.
What was that 100 days, 150? Roughly 240 days.
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one? I would say about 150 tins. Roughly $600 dollars. Every tin that I bought, i honestly thought about how I needed to attempt to quit again.
Did you get any numbers last time you were here? Yes, I have about 10 different numbers.
Did you give yours to anyone? Yes, I gave mine out to about 10 people.
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can? I made connections with a couple of people. Learned a lot of interesting things from the people here.
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back? I expected it to be the way it is right now. I realize I fucked up for a while. You all don't trust me right now and I don't blame you.
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time? Yes, I posted in other groups. I also enjoyed talking in the sports rooms.
Did you support anyone else? I attempted to support others. I gave out my phone number and welcomed new members, hoping that I could help someone else quit.
Will you this time? I Want to support others. I look forward to meeting people in my group and staying active in my group. Right now, i ultimately need to regather myself before I can even trust myself to help others.
So I guess the real questions should be- if, as you claim, you had ten numbers, did you ever use them? Did you ever text one of your quit bros? Why didn't you text one when you were about to chew. You say you gave out your number to 10 people, did anyone ever call you when you went MIA?
Wondering where the system broke down for you, because it sounds like you think you were doing things right. A few days before your cave, you talked about how that time of year made you want to chew, so it seems like you were thinking about it for a while.
Theres a problem with your math by the way. You were still posting roll in mid-april.
That was six months ago.
However, you were one these idiots that likes to post " +1 " instead of a real number.
Were you posting +1 after each cave? i.e.- what is the day of your cave?
I can tell you honestly that I never posted roll after I caved. So yes, it is 6 months not 8 I simply made a mistake in my math.
I did not call anyone at the time. I had people text me a couple of times looking for me and I was too embarrassed to respond in all honestly.
You are correct before it happened, I was progressively craving more and more. I did not intend to cave (not sure that anyone does.) Again, I made the mistake at this time of not reaching out to others and looking for help.
I would appreciate it if you would talk to me as a person and not as an idiot. And according to your post in the January group, you don't ever plan to interact with me so I guess I am wondering why you're asking so many questions if you don't give a shit about me... " But I don't really give a shit, because I will never interact with this caver. I don't have the time to waste,"
So I still get a crave once in a while, it's typically just a quick thing and then it's gone. Two things help me out first I post every single day and I post early, second I have a group of quitters that we text back and forth every single day, sometimes way too much about absolutely nothing important.
That second thing is what keeps it real for me, I know I could never tell those 8 guys I fucked up. I have probably 75 numbers in my phone, maybe more, but it's those 8 guys that have my back.
You need that, you need a support network, heck it could end up being Lipi, he seems to be getting a little fond of you over here.
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This post says to me, very clearly, if you leave this place of accountability and brotherhood... You'll be one of those cats posting up another day 1 after a time.
There are vets who have been here for years.
For. A. Reason.
Pay attention. Stick around. Stay quit.
AJ laid this out pretty clearly for you before you left last time. You didn't learn anything here, you haven't changed since your last time here. I have a few questions for you... answer all these and I will root for you.
Why will the results be different?
How long did you hump the can after your cave?
The entire time between your last post and yesterday?
What was that 100 days, 150?
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one?
Did you get any numbers last time you were here?
Did you give yours to anyone?
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can?
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back?
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time?
Did you support anyone else?
Will you this time?
Why will the results be different? I believe that the results will be different this time because I am going to make myself be more accountable for my days. In addition to posting in the page, I will continue to text members of my old group. I am planning on spending more time on these forums overall. By doing this I will be more accountable for my actions, as well as closer with my fellow quitting brothers.
How long did you hump the can after your cave? I continued to dip for the entire 8 months that I was off of this website.
The entire time between your last post and yesterday? Yes.
What was that 100 days, 150? Roughly 240 days.
How many tins? 100, 150? What did you think every time you bought one? I would say about 150 tins. Roughly $600 dollars. Every tin that I bought, i honestly thought about how I needed to attempt to quit again.
Did you get any numbers last time you were here? Yes, I have about 10 different numbers.
Did you give yours to anyone? Yes, I gave mine out to about 10 people.
Did you make any connections to anyone? Did you log in during your time humping the can? I made connections with a couple of people. Learned a lot of interesting things from the people here.
What did you expect the reaction to be when you came back? I expected it to be the way it is right now. I realize I fucked up for a while. You all don't trust me right now and I don't blame you.
Did you read anything on the site besides your own intro last time? Yes, I posted in other groups. I also enjoyed talking in the sports rooms.
Did you support anyone else? I attempted to support others. I gave out my phone number and welcomed new members, hoping that I could help someone else quit.
Will you this time? I Want to support others. I look forward to meeting people in my group and staying active in my group. Right now, i ultimately need to regather myself before I can even trust myself to help others.
So I guess the real questions should be- if, as you claim, you had ten numbers, did you ever use them? Did you ever text one of your quit bros? Why didn't you text one when you were about to chew. You say you gave out your number to 10 people, did anyone ever call you when you went MIA?
Wondering where the system broke down for you, because it sounds like you think you were doing things right. A few days before your cave, you talked about how that time of year made you want to chew, so it seems like you were thinking about it for a while.
Theres a problem with your math by the way. You were still posting roll in mid-april.
That was six months ago.
However, you were one these idiots that likes to post " +1 " instead of a real number.
Were you posting +1 after each cave? i.e.- what is the day of your cave?
I can tell you honestly that I never posted roll after I caved. So yes, it is 6 months not 8 I simply made a mistake in my math.
I did not call anyone at the time. I had people text me a couple of times looking for me and I was too embarrassed to respond in all honestly.
You are correct before it happened, I was progressively craving more and more. I did not intend to cave (not sure that anyone does.) Again, I made the mistake at this time of not reaching out to others and looking for help.
I would appreciate it if you would talk to me as a person and not as an idiot. And according to your post in the January group, you don't ever plan to interact with me so I guess I am wondering why you're asking so many questions if you don't give a shit about me... " But I don't really give a shit, because I will never interact with this caver. I don't have the time to waste,"
So I still get a crave once in a while, it's typically just a quick thing and then it's gone. Two things help me out first I post every single day and I post early, second I have a group of quitters that we text back and forth every single day, sometimes way too much about absolutely nothing important.
That second thing is what keeps it real for me, I know I could never tell those 8 guys I fucked up. I have probably 75 numbers in my phone, maybe more, but it's those 8 guys that have my back.
You need that, you need a support network, heck it could end up being Lipi, he seems to be getting a little fond of you over here.
BWB you offer great advice. Only issue is that he had a text group who he shat on.
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I would appreciate it if you would talk to me as a person and not as an idiot. And according to your post in the January group, you don't ever plan to interact with me so I guess I am wondering why you're asking so many questions if you don't give a shit about me... " But I don't really give a shit, because I will never interact with this caver. I don't have the time to waste,"
I just like to learn what I can from idiots like you, so I can share it with half-assers that are on the path to cave, like you. Believe me, its not for me. But, maybe is it possible that thinking about those things could help you keep from being a two-time loser?
In reality though, I was being honest in January, I don't give a shit about you. I care about people who follow the program here, and don't spit on their quit brothers. Maybe someday you'll change my mind, but I won't hold my breath, and even so, you would be resentful of me not coddling your balls, so you don't give a shit either.
Too bad. 'dems'
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Cpoz,
Bottom line is you caved, you know it was a mistake and you are back. I give you credit for coming back on here realizing that this place, while a pain in the balls at times, really is the place to be if you want to quit and is unique in that we hold each other accountable here. Your only option at this point is to put your head down and start putting up +1's. I'll quit with you today and we'll see if you are here again tomorrow.
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
Maybe I shouldn't be personally offended by Cpoz' failure? For some reason I am. Maybe I shouldn't express those feelings to him on this message board so he, and others, might learn? Is questioning someone who fails a rude thing to do?
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
Maybe I shouldn't be personally offended by Cpoz' failure? For some reason I am. Maybe I shouldn't express those feelings to him on this message board so he, and others, might learn? Is questioning someone who fails a rude thing to do?
Absolutely not. Being a part of a "brotherhood" and support group and telling others you don't care about them and calling them idiots is rude. Failure should be questioned so that we can all learn from it. My remarks were in no way directed towards you. Sorry if you felt that way.
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What I don't get is that you were excited for your friend. Your friend is leaving a drug riddled environment. So to celebrate, YOU use drugs?
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
Maybe I shouldn't be personally offended by Cpoz' failure? For some reason I am. Maybe I shouldn't express those feelings to him on this message board so he, and others, might learn? Is questioning someone who fails a rude thing to do?
CopZ - Everyone here is here to support you...the human being, the man that is in there. No one is here to support that addict, caving, pussy mindset that each one of us has within us that prevents our true selves from being alive and well. Each one of the hateful rants you got, was to that douche that caved. So ya, Lipi doesn't give two shits about that caver. We work every day to kill that caving/lying/dishonorable asshat addict within us. But YOU, and only you, have to decide which guy you want to let live. The pussy caver guy, has no place in here and isn't welcome. The badass quitter in there, the man you were made to be, your father's son....he is welcome. He has always been welcome. He had brothers that cared about him and wanted him to live. You gave up on yourself and your brothers.
Now you have to nut up and EARN brotherhood back. It's a trust thing. Once you break trust, you don't just get it back. It takes hard work and time. Every other newbie or vet that reads your cave and the subsequent thrashing that occurs, gets reminded of what a gift that brotherhood is and what it means if you break that. What it means if you break your word to these guys. Honor, integrity, truth are all keys to the way quit works here. The first order of business for any quitter after he/she dumps his can in the toilet is to understand those words, give his word and keep it. We only GIVE a first chance. Second chances, well those are earned by showing you have learned what honor, integrity and truth is and that no matter what, you would rather die than give that up. It's that simple and it applies across life.
Aren't you tired of not respecting yourself? Aren't you just flat fricking tired of knowing others don't respect you? Are you at that place where you scream "no more" and it means more than just no more nicotine, but no more being a lying ass caving pussy that US Tobacco turned you into?
Here's the protocol. Do your job. Quit today. AND build others quits today. Reach out and help the newbies. Don't be that selfish asshat. Brotherhood is two way...show that you can be a brother to others. It'll be there. You want some inspiration....check out my quit brother Nate McPherson. Nate was in my June group. He caved, and then immediately posted a day 1 again. We kicked the shit out of him. He has texted me every single day with his promise to quit and is somewhere around day 150 now I think. He's bad ass. He did it one day at a time. He never sat around and argued about why people were being mean....he knew it and wanted it bad enough to work his ass of for it. I think it's got to be exponentially harder to quit after you cave, so I give mad props and much respect to Nate, as I do another one of my quit brothers Sixer. But let me tell you, both these guys are badass 100% through and through. They have no tolerance for that pussy caver. I hope I get to write about you like these two one day too. The odds are stacked against you, but you can do it, IF, you decide to. Purely up to you.
Bronc - [phone number edited out- please exchange via pm] Use it if you need it.
Here are some links to read:
Why are we dicks? (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1010195/1/?x=90#new)
Why the rough treatment? (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008102/1/?x=90#new)
Cavers (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1005027/1/?x=90)
Caves affect everyone by Chewie (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004886/1/?x=90)
To Cavers by SOS (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004859/1/?x=90)
The Sound of Cancer (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10394517/1/?x=90)
Randy's Story (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008847/1/?x=90)
Tom and Jenny Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/?x=90)
Ignorance and Naivete' (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008274/1/?x=90)
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
Maybe I shouldn't be personally offended by Cpoz' failure? For some reason I am. Maybe I shouldn't express those feelings to him on this message board so he, and others, might learn? Is questioning someone who fails a rude thing to do?
CopZ - Everyone here is here to support you...the human being, the man that is in there. No one is here to support that addict, caving, pussy mindset that each one of us has within us that prevents our true selves from being alive and well. Each one of the hateful rants you got, was to that douche that caved. So ya, Lipi doesn't give two shits about that caver. We work every day to kill that caving/lying/dishonorable asshat addict within us. But YOU, and only you, have to decide which guy you want to let live. The pussy caver guy, has no place in here and isn't welcome. The badass quitter in there, the man you were made to be, your father's son....he is welcome. He has always been welcome. He had brothers that cared about him and wanted him to live. You gave up on yourself and your brothers.
Now you have to nut up and EARN brotherhood back. It's a trust thing. Once you break trust, you don't just get it back. It takes hard work and time. Every other newbie or vet that reads your cave and the subsequent thrashing that occurs, gets reminded of what a gift that brotherhood is and what it means if you break that. What it means if you break your word to these guys. Honor, integrity, truth are all keys to the way quit works here. The first order of business for any quitter after he/she dumps his can in the toilet is to understand those words, give his word and keep it. We only GIVE a first chance. Second chances, well those are earned by showing you have learned what honor, integrity and truth is and that no matter what, you would rather die than give that up. It's that simple and it applies across life.
Aren't you tired of not respecting yourself? Aren't you just flat fricking tired of knowing others don't respect you? Are you at that place where you scream "no more" and it means more than just no more nicotine, but no more being a lying ass caving pussy that US Tobacco turned you into?
Here's the protocol. Do your job. Quit today. AND build others quits today. Reach out and help the newbies. Don't be that selfish asshat. Brotherhood is two way...show that you can be a brother to others. It'll be there. You want some inspiration....check out my quit brother Nate McPherson. Nate was in my June group. He caved, and then immediately posted a day 1 again. We kicked the shit out of him. He has texted me every single day with his promise to quit and is somewhere around day 150 now I think. He's bad ass. He did it one day at a time. He never sat around and argued about why people were being mean....he knew it and wanted it bad enough to work his ass of for it. I think it's got to be exponentially harder to quit after you cave, so I give mad props and much respect to Nate, as I do another one of my quit brothers Sixer. But let me tell you, both these guys are badass 100% through and through. They have no tolerance for that pussy caver. I hope I get to write about you like these two one day too. The odds are stacked against you, but you can do it, IF, you decide to. Purely up to you.
Bronc - [phone number edited out- please exchange via pm] Use it if you need it.
Here are some links to read:
Why are we dicks? (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1010195/1/?x=90#new)
Why the rough treatment? (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008102/1/?x=90#new)
Cavers (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1005027/1/?x=90)
Caves affect everyone by Chewie (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004886/1/?x=90)
To Cavers by SOS (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004859/1/?x=90)
The Sound of Cancer (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10394517/1/?x=90)
Randy's Story (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008847/1/?x=90)
Tom and Jenny Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/?x=90)
Ignorance and Naivete' (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008274/1/?x=90)
Bronc, please take your number off this post unless you want to get pics of GmannÂ’s junk.
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
Maybe I shouldn't be personally offended by Cpoz' failure? For some reason I am. Maybe I shouldn't express those feelings to him on this message board so he, and others, might learn? Is questioning someone who fails a rude thing to do?
Absolutely not. Being a part of a "brotherhood" and support group and telling others you don't care about them and calling them idiots is rude. Failure should be questioned so that we can all learn from it. My remarks were in no way directed towards you. Sorry if you felt that way.
I agree 100% with the anti-caver basic premise. Anti-caver language is a tad offensive but the point is crystal clear----It is difficult to support someone who bitches out and caves. But I feel obligated to make an effort since we were originally in the same group and in a text group together. Hopefully cpoz sticks around and honors his word. It's hard to get excited about the prospect though. Especially when we've seen this play out in a certain way an overwhelming majority of the time. I hope cpoz is successful this time. I really do.
Cpoz, get this shit. Post roll as soon as you wake up. Nobody wants their tongue to be replaced with part of their calf muscle.
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
Maybe I shouldn't be personally offended by Cpoz' failure? For some reason I am. Maybe I shouldn't express those feelings to him on this message board so he, and others, might learn? Is questioning someone who fails a rude thing to do?
Absolutely not. Being a part of a "brotherhood" and support group and telling others you don't care about them and calling them idiots is rude. Failure should be questioned so that we can all learn from it. My remarks were in no way directed towards you. Sorry if you felt that way.
I agree 100% with the anti-caver basic premise. Anti-caver language is a tad offensive but the point is crystal clear----It is difficult to support someone who bitches out and caves. But I feel obligated to make an effort since we were originally in the same group and in a text group together. Hopefully cpoz sticks around and honors his word. It's hard to get excited about the prospect though. Especially when we've seen this play out in a certain way an overwhelming majority of the time. I hope cpoz is successful this time. I really do.
Cpoz, get this shit. Post roll as soon as you wake up. Nobody wants their tongue to be replaced with part of their calf muscle.
That's the concern I'm talking about. Ride his ass and tell him to straighten up but calling people idiots and telling them you don't care is unproductive and childish. Be offensive all you want to but keep the focus on quitting. Most of the guys here are experts at that but a few just don't get it.
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
Maybe I shouldn't be personally offended by Cpoz' failure? For some reason I am. Maybe I shouldn't express those feelings to him on this message board so he, and others, might learn? Is questioning someone who fails a rude thing to do?
Absolutely not. Being a part of a "brotherhood" and support group and telling others you don't care about them and calling them idiots is rude. Failure should be questioned so that we can all learn from it. My remarks were in no way directed towards you. Sorry if you felt that way.
I agree 100% with the anti-caver basic premise. Anti-caver language is a tad offensive but the point is crystal clear----It is difficult to support someone who bitches out and caves. But I feel obligated to make an effort since we were originally in the same group and in a text group together. Hopefully cpoz sticks around and honors his word. It's hard to get excited about the prospect though. Especially when we've seen this play out in a certain way an overwhelming majority of the time. I hope cpoz is successful this time. I really do.
Cpoz, get this shit. Post roll as soon as you wake up. Nobody wants their tongue to be replaced with part of their calf muscle.
That's the concern I'm talking about. Ride his ass and tell him to straighten up but calling people idiots and telling them you don't care is unproductive and childish. Be offensive all you want to but keep the focus on quitting. Most of the guys here are experts at that but a few just don't get it.
Longhorn- you have been here for several months, and have 40 posts in that time frame. Stop acting like you have the first clue what is going on around here.
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I agree with Menace. Don't listen to the bullies that obviously are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personal lives. Just quit. The trolls will shut up after you put a little time in.
Maybe I shouldn't be personally offended by Cpoz' failure? For some reason I am. Maybe I shouldn't express those feelings to him on this message board so he, and others, might learn? Is questioning someone who fails a rude thing to do?
Absolutely not. Being a part of a "brotherhood" and support group and telling others you don't care about them and calling them idiots is rude. Failure should be questioned so that we can all learn from it. My remarks were in no way directed towards you. Sorry if you felt that way.
I agree 100% with the anti-caver basic premise. Anti-caver language is a tad offensive but the point is crystal clear----It is difficult to support someone who bitches out and caves. But I feel obligated to make an effort since we were originally in the same group and in a text group together. Hopefully cpoz sticks around and honors his word. It's hard to get excited about the prospect though. Especially when we've seen this play out in a certain way an overwhelming majority of the time. I hope cpoz is successful this time. I really do.
Cpoz, get this shit. Post roll as soon as you wake up. Nobody wants their tongue to be replaced with part of their calf muscle.
That's the concern I'm talking about. Ride his ass and tell him to straighten up but calling people idiots and telling them you don't care is unproductive and childish. Be offensive all you want to but keep the focus on quitting. Most of the guys here are experts at that but a few just don't get it.
Longhorn- you have been here for several months, and have 40 posts in that time frame. Stop acting like you have the first clue what is going on around here.
It doesn't take 1,000 posts at KTC to identify someone with a little man complex or childish behavior.
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Note to self:
You know you caved. You know you reflected and you know you are back.
Currently at day 29, I feel great about this quit.
Last time I stopped, I felt as though I was working towards a goal. I don't feel that way anymore, I understand this is a life decision not a temporary thing.
When I quit 29 days ago, I didn't really feel any sort of fog like last time, Just a very mild version. This time I rarely crave. Last time I was craving the entire time.
Things that work:
-Being on the boards more often than not.
-Helping out with the spreadsheet.
-Understanding I'm not missing anything
-Understanding everything I am gaining.
You can do this, use your resources and make it through One Day At A Time.
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Note to self:
You know you caved. You know you reflected and you know you are back.
Currently at day 29, I feel great about this quit.
Last time I stopped, I felt as though I was working towards a goal. I don't feel that way anymore, I understand this is a life decision not a temporary thing.
When I quit 29 days ago, I didn't really feel any sort of fog like last time, Just a very mild version. This time I rarely crave. Last time I was craving the entire time.
Things that work:
-Being on the boards more often than not.
-Helping out with the spreadsheet.
-Understanding I'm not missing anything
-Understanding everything I am gaining.
You can do this, use your resources and make it through One Day At A Time.
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Note to self:
You know you caved. You know you reflected and you know you are back.
Currently at day 29, I feel great about this quit.
Last time I stopped, I felt as though I was working towards a goal. I don't feel that way anymore, I understand this is a life decision not a temporary thing.
When I quit 29 days ago, I didn't really feel any sort of fog like last time, Just a very mild version. This time I rarely crave. Last time I was craving the entire time.
Things that work:
-Being on the boards more often than not.
-Helping out with the spreadsheet.
-Understanding I'm not missing anything
-Understanding everything I am gaining.
You can do this, use your resources and make it through One Day At A Time.
Good. Feel the freedom an cherish it.
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Note to self:
You know you caved. You know you reflected and you know you are back.
Currently at day 29, I feel great about this quit.
Last time I stopped, I felt as though I was working towards a goal. I don't feel that way anymore, I understand this is a life decision not a temporary thing.
When I quit 29 days ago, I didn't really feel any sort of fog like last time, Just a very mild version. This time I rarely crave. Last time I was craving the entire time.
Things that work:
-Being on the boards more often than not.
-Helping out with the spreadsheet.
-Understanding I'm not missing anything
-Understanding everything I am gaining.
You can do this, use your resources and make it through One Day At A Time.
Good. Feel the freedom an cherish it.
Sounds good. But keep your guard up. Not craving today rarely means not craving tomorrow. Good luck and thanks for staying involved.
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Each and every one of you spent hours, sometimes even days, plotting and scheming how you were going to line up your next fix of nicotine. You'd skip important events for your kids so you could go pack a cat turd. You would scrounge whatever loose change you might have had just to make sure you had a tin - even if it meant having less or nothing to eat. You would spend day after day hiding your addiction from your friends and family while you would seek out times and places to be alone with the nic bitch for hours on end. You would think nothing of fishing a few tins out of the trash if you thought you could scrape enough grains together for one last dried out fatty.
It takes literally a fraction of that effort to post roll each day. Wake up, piss, post roll. 30 seconds, tops.
(wise words from Tuco that I want to keep close for the rough days)
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Day 55- Day 50-55 have sucked, luckily I have been reading a lot and following closely with my text group. More or less just irritated no serious thoughts about caving.
*Just witnessed an almost 800 day quitter cave and explain it to his group*
Note to self: Do be a fucking idiot!
Wake up, piss, post roll, repeat.
Reread.
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Day 55- Day 50-55 have sucked, luckily I have been reading a lot and following closely with my text group. More or less just irritated no serious thoughts about caving.
*Just witnessed an almost 800 day quitter cave and explain it to his group*
Note to self: Do be a fucking idiot!
Wake up, piss, post roll, repeat.
Reread.
Good job cpoz. I'm proud of you. Keep up the good work. It definitely seems like your heart is in this 100%.
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Day 55- Day 50-55 have sucked, luckily I have been reading a lot and following closely with my text group. More or less just irritated no serious thoughts about caving.
*Just witnessed an almost 800 day quitter cave and explain it to his group*
Note to self: Do be a fucking idiot!
Wake up, piss, post roll, repeat.
Reread.
Good job cpoz. I'm proud of you. Keep up the good work. It definitely seems like your heart is in this 100%.
Solid. Keep this up man. When someone rebounds from the depths you've come from can inspire people. You're getting it and your earning this every day. Way to be.