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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Snot on July 07, 2014, 05:12:00 PM
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
Congrats and welcome sir Snot!
I'm interested in your story... I've never used snus, but I hear from a variety of (in my opinion ignorant) folks how much "safer" Swedish Snus is. Curious if you can talk to the different between your stoppage / withdrawal from dip in 2010 vs. this time?
Thanks and welcome... let me know how I can help!
chewie
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
That's all you can do man.
Glad to have you here. It's a roller coaster ride sometimes, but just do the now. It gets better. I promise.
You got my number man. I'll be here if you need me, but I need you to be there if I need you too. We can do this.
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
Congrats and welcome sir Snot!
I'm interested in your story... I've never used snus, but I hear from a variety of (in my opinion ignorant) folks how much "safer" Swedish Snus is. Curious if you can talk to the different between your stoppage / withdrawal from dip in 2010 vs. this time?
Thanks and welcome... let me know how I can help!
chewie
Thank you, Chewie!
I stopped back in 2010 and it was very hard to do in the beginning. Took me a couple of tries but once I got a month in it was much easier. I stopped primarily for health reasons. So, when I heard about snus and the supposed safety of it I was intrigued. The research does seem to imply that snus is safer than cigarettes or American smokeless tobacco.
But there are two big caveats to consider (and that I chose to ignore at the time):
1. The research is minimal - very minimal - and, although all showed no increase in mouth or throat cancer, one study did show an increase in pancreatic cancer among snus users.
2. Most of the research was funded by the Swedish snus companies. ^o)
Well, that didn't stop me. So I started snussing. I immediately discovered a few things that made me realize how snus can be way more addictive and "dangerous" than American dip.
1. No need to spit. No spit cups, no spills, no gross smells. You can snus anywhere, anytime.
2. If you use the pouches (and most snus users do) then there is no mess at all. The tins come with a convenient lid for storing used pouches. I could pop out an old pouch and pop in a new one in seconds with no mess and no one around me really knowing what I was doing. Which leads to...
3. No one knows when you are snussing. The pouches are small and go in the upper lip so unless you smile real big no one will see it. There is no smell, no juice. I snussed at work and no one knew. I snussed at home and no one knew. I could snus and eat with no problem. This is what I mean by "dangerous." I was snussing way more often than I was dipping because I could get away with it.
So the addiction is stronger than when I was dipping. I'd dip maybe 6 or 7 pinches a day. I had a snus in my cheek almost all the time. So, quitting this time seems harder. The physical withdrawal symptoms seem about the same but the craves are way more intense now IMO. Thankfully, the Smokey Mountain pouches are very close to snus in size and taste and serve as good substitutes.
Bottom line is that snus is scary stuff but it lacks many of the "nastiness" of American dip. Maybe it is "healthier" than American dip. Doesn't matter because it still is nicotine and can still fuck you up. I had high blood pressure for years. In the past week my blood pressure is normal. Gee, I wonder why that is!
I fucking hate nicotine - all forms of it. It is evil, pure evil.
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
That's all you can do man.
Glad to have you here. It's a roller coaster ride sometimes, but just do the now. It gets better. I promise.
You got my number man. I'll be here if you need me, but I need you to be there if I need you too. We can do this.
Thanks, WP, but actually I don't have your number. Your PM's never included it, I don't think.
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
Congrats and welcome sir Snot!
I'm interested in your story... I've never used snus, but I hear from a variety of (in my opinion ignorant) folks how much "safer" Swedish Snus is. Curious if you can talk to the different between your stoppage / withdrawal from dip in 2010 vs. this time?
Thanks and welcome... let me know how I can help!
chewie
Thank you, Chewie!
I stopped back in 2010 and it was very hard to do in the beginning. Took me a couple of tries but once I got a month in it was much easier. I stopped primarily for health reasons. So, when I heard about snus and the supposed safety of it I was intrigued. The research does seem to imply that snus is safer than cigarettes or American smokeless tobacco.
But there are two big caveats to consider (and that I chose to ignore at the time):
1. The research is minimal - very minimal - and, although all showed no increase in mouth or throat cancer, one study did show an increase in pancreatic cancer among snus users.
2. Most of the research was funded by the Swedish snus companies. ^o)
Well, that didn't stop me. So I started snussing. I immediately discovered a few things that made me realize how snus can be way more addictive and "dangerous" than American dip.
1. No need to spit. No spit cups, no spills, no gross smells. You can snus anywhere, anytime.
2. If you use the pouches (and most snus users do) then there is no mess at all. The tins come with a convenient lid for storing used pouches. I could pop out an old pouch and pop in a new one in seconds with no mess and no one around me really knowing what I was doing. Which leads to...
3. No one knows when you are snussing. The pouches are small and go in the upper lip so unless you smile real big no one will see it. There is no smell, no juice. I snussed at work and no one knew. I snussed at home and no one knew. I could snus and eat with no problem. This is what I mean by "dangerous." I was snussing way more often than I was dipping because I could get away with it.
So the addiction is stronger than when I was dipping. I'd dip maybe 6 or 7 pinches a day. I had a snus in my cheek almost all the time. So, quitting this time seems harder. The physical withdrawal symptoms seem about the same but the craves are way more intense now IMO. Thankfully, the Smokey Mountain pouches are very close to snus in size and taste and serve as good substitutes.
Bottom line is that snus is scary stuff but it lacks many of the "nastiness" of American dip. Maybe it is "healthier" than American dip. Doesn't matter because it still is nicotine and can still fuck you up. I had high blood pressure for years. In the past week my blood pressure is normal. Gee, I wonder why that is!
I fucking hate nicotine - all forms of it. It is evil, pure evil.
I have a man crush.
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
Congrats and welcome sir Snot!
I'm interested in your story... I've never used snus, but I hear from a variety of (in my opinion ignorant) folks how much "safer" Swedish Snus is. Curious if you can talk to the different between your stoppage / withdrawal from dip in 2010 vs. this time?
Thanks and welcome... let me know how I can help!
chewie
Thank you, Chewie!
I stopped back in 2010 and it was very hard to do in the beginning. Took me a couple of tries but once I got a month in it was much easier. I stopped primarily for health reasons. So, when I heard about snus and the supposed safety of it I was intrigued. The research does seem to imply that snus is safer than cigarettes or American smokeless tobacco.
But there are two big caveats to consider (and that I chose to ignore at the time):
1. The research is minimal - very minimal - and, although all showed no increase in mouth or throat cancer, one study did show an increase in pancreatic cancer among snus users.
2. Most of the research was funded by the Swedish snus companies. ^o)
Well, that didn't stop me. So I started snussing. I immediately discovered a few things that made me realize how snus can be way more addictive and "dangerous" than American dip.
1. No need to spit. No spit cups, no spills, no gross smells. You can snus anywhere, anytime.
2. If you use the pouches (and most snus users do) then there is no mess at all. The tins come with a convenient lid for storing used pouches. I could pop out an old pouch and pop in a new one in seconds with no mess and no one around me really knowing what I was doing. Which leads to...
3. No one knows when you are snussing. The pouches are small and go in the upper lip so unless you smile real big no one will see it. There is no smell, no juice. I snussed at work and no one knew. I snussed at home and no one knew. I could snus and eat with no problem. This is what I mean by "dangerous." I was snussing way more often than I was dipping because I could get away with it.
So the addiction is stronger than when I was dipping. I'd dip maybe 6 or 7 pinches a day. I had a snus in my cheek almost all the time. So, quitting this time seems harder. The physical withdrawal symptoms seem about the same but the craves are way more intense now IMO. Thankfully, the Smokey Mountain pouches are very close to snus in size and taste and serve as good substitutes.
Bottom line is that snus is scary stuff but it lacks many of the "nastiness" of American dip. Maybe it is "healthier" than American dip. Doesn't matter because it still is nicotine and can still fuck you up. I had high blood pressure for years. In the past week my blood pressure is normal. Gee, I wonder why that is!
I fucking hate nicotine - all forms of it. It is evil, pure evil.
I have a man crush.
I used to dip Copenhagen fine cut and often put it in my upper lip for all the same reasons you just mentioned. It sucked, but I was able to hide it. Glad that shit is over.
Welcome to freedom! Glad to see you taking your life back. It gets better with time, with each passing day, which is how we quit...... one day at a time.
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
Congrats and welcome sir Snot!
I'm interested in your story... I've never used snus, but I hear from a variety of (in my opinion ignorant) folks how much "safer" Swedish Snus is. Curious if you can talk to the different between your stoppage / withdrawal from dip in 2010 vs. this time?
Thanks and welcome... let me know how I can help!
chewie
Thank you, Chewie!
I stopped back in 2010 and it was very hard to do in the beginning. Took me a couple of tries but once I got a month in it was much easier. I stopped primarily for health reasons. So, when I heard about snus and the supposed safety of it I was intrigued. The research does seem to imply that snus is safer than cigarettes or American smokeless tobacco.
But there are two big caveats to consider (and that I chose to ignore at the time):
1. The research is minimal - very minimal - and, although all showed no increase in mouth or throat cancer, one study did show an increase in pancreatic cancer among snus users.
2. Most of the research was funded by the Swedish snus companies. ^o)
Well, that didn't stop me. So I started snussing. I immediately discovered a few things that made me realize how snus can be way more addictive and "dangerous" than American dip.
1. No need to spit. No spit cups, no spills, no gross smells. You can snus anywhere, anytime.
2. If you use the pouches (and most snus users do) then there is no mess at all. The tins come with a convenient lid for storing used pouches. I could pop out an old pouch and pop in a new one in seconds with no mess and no one around me really knowing what I was doing. Which leads to...
3. No one knows when you are snussing. The pouches are small and go in the upper lip so unless you smile real big no one will see it. There is no smell, no juice. I snussed at work and no one knew. I snussed at home and no one knew. I could snus and eat with no problem. This is what I mean by "dangerous." I was snussing way more often than I was dipping because I could get away with it.
So the addiction is stronger than when I was dipping. I'd dip maybe 6 or 7 pinches a day. I had a snus in my cheek almost all the time. So, quitting this time seems harder. The physical withdrawal symptoms seem about the same but the craves are way more intense now IMO. Thankfully, the Smokey Mountain pouches are very close to snus in size and taste and serve as good substitutes.
Bottom line is that snus is scary stuff but it lacks many of the "nastiness" of American dip. Maybe it is "healthier" than American dip. Doesn't matter because it still is nicotine and can still fuck you up. I had high blood pressure for years. In the past week my blood pressure is normal. Gee, I wonder why that is!
I fucking hate nicotine - all forms of it. It is evil, pure evil.
I have a man crush.
I used to dip Copenhagen fine cut and often put it in my upper lip for all the same reasons you just mentioned. It sucked, but I was able to hide it. Glad that shit is over.
Welcome to freedom! Glad to see you taking your life back. It gets better with time, with each passing day, which is how we quit...... one day at a time.
'Finger' nicotine.
Good info in here. I would openly chew at home, ninja dip all day at work. you've made the best decision of your life. Proud to quit with you today snot.
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Snot man, congrats on being a quitter. You have some heavy duty supporters here at KTC. use everything you have to keep that winning attitude. I quit with ya bro.
Mogul
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I can't remember where I saw it but somewhere on this site during my very earliest days of quit I saw the acronym "ODAAT" which is short for "One Day At A Time." This struck a chord with me and for the last nine days has been the cornerstone of my quit. When the craves are intense and all I want to do is cave and give it all up I think that all I have to do is make it today. And really, I posted roll so I have no choice but to make it though the day clean of nic. I will worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
Things I often tell myself when the going gets tough that focus on "One Day At A Time":
"Just 16 waking hours. Take it one hour at a time if you must but just focus on the next 16 hours."
"You only have a few hours let in the day. Just power through and you'll have this day done."
"Don't worry about that car trip/sporting event/major trigger coming up in a few days or next week. Only worry about today. You deal with that when the day comes."
Not having to worry about tomorrow or next week has been a huge relief to me. I can get through today. I have that much strength. I can't get through the next few days all at once but I can tackle them one day at a time. I get up, post roll, make my promise for one day and one day only. I can keep that.
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
- Matt 6:34
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I can't remember where I saw it but somewhere on this site during my very earliest days of quit I saw the acronym "ODAAT" which is short for "One Day At A Time." This struck a chord with me and for the last nine days has been the cornerstone of my quit. When the craves are intense and all I want to do is cave and give it all up I think that all I have to do is make it today. And really, I posted roll so I have no choice but to make it though the day clean of nic. I will worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
Things I often tell myself when the going gets tough that focus on "One Day At A Time":
"Just 16 waking hours. Take it one hour at a time if you must but just focus on the next 16 hours."
"You only have a few hours let in the day. Just power through and you'll have this day done."
"Don't worry about that car trip/sporting event/major trigger coming up in a few days or next week. Only worry about today. You deal with that when the day comes."
Not having to worry about tomorrow or next week has been a huge relief to me. I can get through today. I have that much strength. I can't get through the next few days all at once but I can tackle them one day at a time. I get up, post roll, make my promise for one day and one day only. I can keep that.
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
- Matt 6:34
The quit is strong with this one.
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I can't remember where I saw it but somewhere on this site during my very earliest days of quit I saw the acronym "ODAAT" which is short for "One Day At A Time." This struck a chord with me and for the last nine days has been the cornerstone of my quit. When the craves are intense and all I want to do is cave and give it all up I think that all I have to do is make it today. And really, I posted roll so I have no choice but to make it though the day clean of nic. I will worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
Things I often tell myself when the going gets tough that focus on "One Day At A Time":
"Just 16 waking hours. Take it one hour at a time if you must but just focus on the next 16 hours."
"You only have a few hours let in the day. Just power through and you'll have this day done."
"Don't worry about that car trip/sporting event/major trigger coming up in a few days or next week. Only worry about today. You deal with that when the day comes."
Not having to worry about tomorrow or next week has been a huge relief to me. I can get through today. I have that much strength. I can't get through the next few days all at once but I can tackle them one day at a time. I get up, post roll, make my promise for one day and one day only. I can keep that.
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
- Matt 6:34
The quit is strong with this one.
Agreed, definite words of wisdom for so early in the quit. Keep up the great work...ODAAT
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I can't remember where I saw it but somewhere on this site during my very earliest days of quit I saw the acronym "ODAAT" which is short for "One Day At A Time." This struck a chord with me and for the last nine days has been the cornerstone of my quit. When the craves are intense and all I want to do is cave and give it all up I think that all I have to do is make it today. And really, I posted roll so I have no choice but to make it though the day clean of nic. I will worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
Things I often tell myself when the going gets tough that focus on "One Day At A Time":
"Just 16 waking hours. Take it one hour at a time if you must but just focus on the next 16 hours."
"You only have a few hours let in the day. Just power through and you'll have this day done."
"Don't worry about that car trip/sporting event/major trigger coming up in a few days or next week. Only worry about today. You deal with that when the day comes."
Not having to worry about tomorrow or next week has been a huge relief to me. I can get through today. I have that much strength. I can't get through the next few days all at once but I can tackle them one day at a time. I get up, post roll, make my promise for one day and one day only. I can keep that.
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
- Matt 6:34
The quit is strong with this one.
Agreed, definite words of wisdom for so early in the quit. Keep up the great work...ODAAT
You get it brother. Keep it simple and stay focused.
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I'm on Day 8 and I meant to start my introduction earlier. I was a dipper for over 25 years then actually stopped for about 4 months in 2010. I started again using Swedish snus and have been using that until I quit 8 days ago. Days 1 - 3 of my quit were pure hell. Insomnia, headaches, depression, constipation, craves. Suffered from some mild depression on day 2. St. John's wort really helps with that, BTW. By Day 4, the physical withdrawals were mostly gone.
Now I am dealing with the craves and they are intense. Day 7 was rough. Today seems a little better. I'm using seeds, gum, jerky, fake stuff, tic tacs, anything I can get my hands on lol. The triggers suck. I'm trying to keep up the exercise. Dear Lord, I hope this gets better soon.
"One day at a time" is my mantra right now. Screw tomorrow, I just got to get through today. Just got to get through today. Post roll and keep my promise.
Congrats and welcome sir Snot!
I'm interested in your story... I've never used snus, but I hear from a variety of (in my opinion ignorant) folks how much "safer" Swedish Snus is. Curious if you can talk to the different between your stoppage / withdrawal from dip in 2010 vs. this time?
Thanks and welcome... let me know how I can help!
chewie
Thank you, Chewie!
I stopped back in 2010 and it was very hard to do in the beginning. Took me a couple of tries but once I got a month in it was much easier. I stopped primarily for health reasons. So, when I heard about snus and the supposed safety of it I was intrigued. The research does seem to imply that snus is safer than cigarettes or American smokeless tobacco.
But there are two big caveats to consider (and that I chose to ignore at the time):
1. The research is minimal - very minimal - and, although all showed no increase in mouth or throat cancer, one study did show an increase in pancreatic cancer among snus users.
2. Most of the research was funded by the Swedish snus companies. ^o)
Well, that didn't stop me. So I started snussing. I immediately discovered a few things that made me realize how snus can be way more addictive and "dangerous" than American dip.
1. No need to spit. No spit cups, no spills, no gross smells. You can snus anywhere, anytime.
2. If you use the pouches (and most snus users do) then there is no mess at all. The tins come with a convenient lid for storing used pouches. I could pop out an old pouch and pop in a new one in seconds with no mess and no one around me really knowing what I was doing. Which leads to...
3. No one knows when you are snussing. The pouches are small and go in the upper lip so unless you smile real big no one will see it. There is no smell, no juice. I snussed at work and no one knew. I snussed at home and no one knew. I could snus and eat with no problem. This is what I mean by "dangerous." I was snussing way more often than I was dipping because I could get away with it.
So the addiction is stronger than when I was dipping. I'd dip maybe 6 or 7 pinches a day. I had a snus in my cheek almost all the time. So, quitting this time seems harder. The physical withdrawal symptoms seem about the same but the craves are way more intense now IMO. Thankfully, the Smokey Mountain pouches are very close to snus in size and taste and serve as good substitutes.
Bottom line is that snus is scary stuff but it lacks many of the "nastiness" of American dip. Maybe it is "healthier" than American dip. Doesn't matter because it still is nicotine and can still fuck you up. I had high blood pressure for years. In the past week my blood pressure is normal. Gee, I wonder why that is!
I fucking hate nicotine - all forms of it. It is evil, pure evil.
I have a man crush.
I used to dip Copenhagen fine cut and often put it in my upper lip for all the same reasons you just mentioned. It sucked, but I was able to hide it. Glad that shit is over.
Welcome to freedom! Glad to see you taking your life back. It gets better with time, with each passing day, which is how we quit...... one day at a time.
I did the same thing er but normally it was less about hiding it and more due to the soreness of my bottom gums/lips.
none for me.....
hang in there snot....you will never regret this.....
read and learn.....the withdrawal is your brain "resetting" itself and it's production of dopamine.
This will happen. It will get easier.
Today....we will quit together.....all that matters is today.
Sing out if I can help you bro.
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I can't remember where I saw it but somewhere on this site during my very earliest days of quit I saw the acronym "ODAAT" which is short for "One Day At A Time." This struck a chord with me and for the last nine days has been the cornerstone of my quit. When the craves are intense and all I want to do is cave and give it all up I think that all I have to do is make it today. And really, I posted roll so I have no choice but to make it though the day clean of nic. I will worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
Things I often tell myself when the going gets tough that focus on "One Day At A Time":
"Just 16 waking hours. Take it one hour at a time if you must but just focus on the next 16 hours."
"You only have a few hours let in the day. Just power through and you'll have this day done."
"Don't worry about that car trip/sporting event/major trigger coming up in a few days or next week. Only worry about today. You deal with that when the day comes."
Not having to worry about tomorrow or next week has been a huge relief to me. I can get through today. I have that much strength. I can't get through the next few days all at once but I can tackle them one day at a time. I get up, post roll, make my promise for one day and one day only. I can keep that.
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
- Matt 6:34
The quit is strong with this one.
Agreed, definite words of wisdom for so early in the quit. Keep up the great work...ODAAT
You get it brother. Keep it simple and stay focused.
This is how you make a hard thing (quitting dip) and easier thing. Take it slow and grind. Congrats.
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Thank you all for the support! Day 10 is almost done and the craves were not too bad today.
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Thank you all for the support! Day 10 is almost done and the craves were not too bad today.
Keep grinding Snot, ODAAT for the rest of our days brother. She is always around the corner waiting..............
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Nice to meet you today. Now remember, only today matters. If you can't do today then you don't need to worry about tomorrow. Quit with you....
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Snot I like this quit you have going. Welcome to the nut house and keep up the great work!!
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Badass song for a badass quitter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nFCl-5PqUc)
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Badass song for a badass quitter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nFCl-5PqUc)
Ha! My have to be my theme song for this quit.
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What a crappy roller coaster ride this is... but I ain't getting off.
Since getting out of the physical crap on day 4, I've been battling the craves and the funk. Most of my days have been crappy. Craves galore, still have trouble concentrating at work, shoving seeds, gum, candy, food, fake stuff in my mouth all the damn time.
Then day 10 hit and all of the sudden things were not quite as bad. Sure the craves and funk were there but they were not as intense. Day 10 was actually not that bad. I felt a little light at the end of the tunnel. Could I possibly be getting better already?! Am I on the downhill slide?
Then Day 11 - Nope! We are back to the craves and funk of earlier. Progress is nil. WTF?! Where are my lollipops and rainbows of day 10? I thought I was getting better?! I'm fighting the craves all damn day. Welcome to the roller coaster ride, Snot!
The peeps on chat have been very helpful during these early days - Jubella, redtrain, kdip, Ginet, Bradleyguy, p23 - I know I'm forgetting some. Great group of quitters who want to help. They've warned me of roller coaster and always the advice is "it gets better". I'll take their word for it.
I've also been warned about the 2 Week Weakness (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/2-week-weakness/). Bring it on, nic bitch! I've got my October quit group, my numbers, my chats. I have an army of October quit soldiers and veterans ready to fight with me. My army will overcome!
"I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom."
- George S. Patton
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What a crappy roller coaster ride this is... but I ain't getting off.
Since getting out of the physical crap on day 4, I've been battling the craves and the funk. Most of my days have been crappy. Craves galore, still have trouble concentrating at work, shoving seeds, gum, candy, food, fake stuff in my mouth all the damn time.
Then day 10 hit and all of the sudden things were not quite as bad. Sure the craves and funk were there but they were not as intense. Day 10 was actually not that bad. I felt a little light at the end of the tunnel. Could I possibly be getting better already?! Am I on the downhill slide?
Then Day 11 - Nope! We are back to the craves and funk of earlier. Progress is nil. WTF?! Where are my lollipops and rainbows of day 10? I thought I was getting better?! I'm fighting the craves all damn day. Welcome to the roller coaster ride, Snot!
The peeps on chat have been very helpful during these early days - Jubella, redtrain, kdip, Ginet, Bradleyguy, p23 - I know I'm forgetting some. Great group of quitters who want to help. They've warned me of roller coaster and always the advice is "it gets better". I'll take their word for it.
I've also been warned about the 2 Week Weakness (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/2-week-weakness/). Bring it on, nic bitch! I've got my October quit group, my numbers, my chats. I have an army of October quit soldiers and veterans ready to fight with me. My army will overcome!
"I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom."
- George S. Patton
Hey Snot welcome . The hardest thing about quitting is making the decision, so yes , your on the downhill side.
Nicotine is a neurotoxin, ounce for ounce it is more deadly than cobra venom. Its long term use hijacks your bodies natural chemical balance. Serotonin is affected as well as adrenaline. Some of the chemicals in dip can take close to a month to leach out of your system. It's some nasty shit. Be patient.
Craves last just a few minutes or seconds. Don't try to ignore them, just acknowledge it and move on. This is known as embracing the suck.
Excercise is proven to reduce both the frequency and intensity of craves. Take a walk or hit the gym.
Cut back your caffeine. Nicotine counters the effect of caffeine so if your still drinking the same amount your gonna be jumpier than a midget at a nudist convention.
There is no light at the end of the tunnel buddy. The journey is the destination. Quit worrying about when your going to surf rainbows .
This is the price you pay to earn your freedom, it hurts, accept that. Quit as if your alternative is death, it is. You can do anything if you know it's temporary. Craves are a momentary bump, that you'll hardly remember years from now.
You got this
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Day 13.
The past couple of days have been bad but not horrible. I still have craves, sometimes they are constant, sometimes I get an hours reprieve. I get the occasional headache. I try to keep myself busy to keep my mind off of the habit. I've done a lot of yard work lately, the garage has not been this clean in over a year, and I am rebuilding an old computer. Staying busy helps.
I have not been in any serious threat of caving. When the craves get bad, I remind myself of the hell I went through to get to day 13. I don't want to go through that again... ever. Day 2 was particularly painful. Remembering that - and the fake stuff - are enough to fight the craves. But, man, this is tiresome. One day at a time.
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Day 13.
The past couple of days have been bad but not horrible. I still have craves, sometimes they are constant, sometimes I get an hours reprieve. I get the occasional headache. I try to keep myself busy to keep my mind off of the habit. I've done a lot of yard work lately, the garage has not been this clean in over a year, and I am rebuilding an old computer. Staying busy helps.
I have not been in any serious threat of caving. When the craves get bad, I remind myself of the hell I went through to get to day 13. I don't want to go through that again... ever. Day 2 was particularly painful. Remembering that - and the fake stuff - are enough to fight the craves. But, man, this is tiresome. One day at a time.
Your on your way to a door my friend. This day is hard to get to and open. I can't tell you how long it will take to get to the door, but I can tell you that you'll make it with determination, drive, accountability and knowledge. Settle in and make your way to the door.
Your going to start uncovering lie after lie. Your going to have some bad days, but the good days will make up for the bad one. The bad days will become further and further apart in time. Live in the moment my friend, your in no hurry.
It's all mental right now. You screwed that brain of your's for a long time. Your brain and body now thank you for this decision. You've begun buillding a new snot (screen name kills me lol). The new snot (laughing again) is going to be one bad dude. Take it one day at a time. You won't get so worn down when you stop thinking of this as big steps. Take littler ones. Quit with you today.
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Day 13.
The past couple of days have been bad but not horrible. I still have craves, sometimes they are constant, sometimes I get an hours reprieve. I get the occasional headache. I try to keep myself busy to keep my mind off of the habit. I've done a lot of yard work lately, the garage has not been this clean in over a year, and I am rebuilding an old computer. Staying busy helps.
I have not been in any serious threat of caving. When the craves get bad, I remind myself of the hell I went through to get to day 13. I don't want to go through that again... ever. Day 2 was particularly painful. Remembering that - and the fake stuff - are enough to fight the craves. But, man, this is tiresome. One day at a time.
Your on your way to a door my friend. This day is hard to get to and open. I can't tell you how long it will take to get to the door, but I can tell you that you'll make it with determination, drive, accountability and knowledge. Settle in and make your way to the door.
Your going to start uncovering lie after lie. Your going to have some bad days, but the good days will make up for the bad one. The bad days will become further and further apart in time. Live in the moment my friend, your in no hurry.
It's all mental right now. You screwed that brain of your's for a long time. Your brain and body now thank you for this decision. You've begun buillding a new snot (screen name kills me lol). The new snot (laughing again) is going to be one bad dude. Take it one day at a time. You won't get so worn down when you stop thinking of this as big steps. Take littler ones. Quit with you today.
Snot,
Just a bit longer, brother! Things are about to take a drastic change for the better. Craves will come less often and be less intense. Soon freedom will be the new normal.
Stay the course. Never again for any reason.
Congrats on your quit!
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Day 13.
The past couple of days have been bad but not horrible. I still have craves, sometimes they are constant, sometimes I get an hours reprieve. I get the occasional headache. I try to keep myself busy to keep my mind off of the habit. I've done a lot of yard work lately, the garage has not been this clean in over a year, and I am rebuilding an old computer. Staying busy helps.
I have not been in any serious threat of caving. When the craves get bad, I remind myself of the hell I went through to get to day 13. I don't want to go through that again... ever. Day 2 was particularly painful. Remembering that - and the fake stuff - are enough to fight the craves. But, man, this is tiresome. One day at a time.
Your on your way to a door my friend. This day is hard to get to and open. I can't tell you how long it will take to get to the door, but I can tell you that you'll make it with determination, drive, accountability and knowledge. Settle in and make your way to the door.
Your going to start uncovering lie after lie. Your going to have some bad days, but the good days will make up for the bad one. The bad days will become further and further apart in time. Live in the moment my friend, your in no hurry.
It's all mental right now. You screwed that brain of your's for a long time. Your brain and body now thank you for this decision. You've begun buillding a new snot (screen name kills me lol). The new snot (laughing again) is going to be one bad dude. Take it one day at a time. You won't get so worn down when you stop thinking of this as big steps. Take littler ones. Quit with you today.
Snot,
Just a bit longer, brother! Things are about to take a drastic change for the better. Craves will come less often and be less intense. Soon freedom will be the new normal.
Stay the course. Never again for any reason.
Congrats on your quit!
The headaches are because your brain is getting more oxygen than it is used to, they are common at this stage. One day at a time Snot
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Day 13.
The past couple of days have been bad but not horrible. I still have craves, sometimes they are constant, sometimes I get an hours reprieve. I get the occasional headache. I try to keep myself busy to keep my mind off of the habit. I've done a lot of yard work lately, the garage has not been this clean in over a year, and I am rebuilding an old computer. Staying busy helps.
I have not been in any serious threat of caving. When the craves get bad, I remind myself of the hell I went through to get to day 13. I don't want to go through that again... ever. Day 2 was particularly painful. Remembering that - and the fake stuff - are enough to fight the craves. But, man, this is tiresome. One day at a time.
Hi Snot,
Like you I was addicted to the Swedish Snus. I'm on day 24 of my quit and its gotten better each week, but the craves are still there. Keep up the fight each day and keep busy.
1-0 mentality each day!
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Day 13.
The past couple of days have been bad but not horrible. I still have craves, sometimes they are constant, sometimes I get an hours reprieve. I get the occasional headache. I try to keep myself busy to keep my mind off of the habit. I've done a lot of yard work lately, the garage has not been this clean in over a year, and I am rebuilding an old computer. Staying busy helps.
I have not been in any serious threat of caving. When the craves get bad, I remind myself of the hell I went through to get to day 13. I don't want to go through that again... ever. Day 2 was particularly painful. Remembering that - and the fake stuff - are enough to fight the craves. But, man, this is tiresome. One day at a time.
Snot,
You've got this. The fake stuff has saved my quit more than anything else. I felt guilty at first but no tobacco and no nicotine so why the F not?
Don't know what you dipped but I was a 30 year Copenhagen guy. If that was your poison I suggest a combination of Bacc-Off Straight with a generous dusting of cayenne pepper. Trust me, try it. Bacc-Off comes in wintergreen so Im sure that and the cayenne will work.
It does the trick.
Keep your head in it through the fog. I like to look back to see how far Ive come and then look forward.
Quit on, my friend (and try my recipe- let me know how it works for you).
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Day 23.
First of all, thank you all for the comments. I truly appreciate the support you all provide. I hope that one day I can pay it all back as a "vet."
The days from 14 to now have been similar. Daily craves, the occasional rage, still a light fog. Some days are better than others. The craves seem to be getting less frequent. What used to seem to be hourly craves are now every couple of hours. Today was a pretty good day. I can probably count on one hand the number of craves I had. I have the tools in place to handle them now.
To newbies that read this, Day 23 is much better then day 14 which was much better than day 7 which was... well, you get the idea. Hang in there, it will be better. If you have a rough day, power through it and see what tomorrow brings. Chances are, it will be better.
I know I am not out of the woods. I will have more tough days. But for the first time I am starting to get a feel for what life after dip is like.
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Day 31.
One month quit.
The quit does seem to be getting slowly better. The craves are still hard but not as frequent as weeks 2 3. Days 29 30 were actually decent. Sleep is still rocky but not bad.
I am strangely kinda nostalgic of the very early days of my quit. It sounds bizarre but I think back to the first week with something like almost fondness. There is no way in hell I want to relive it but, in a way, I kind of - just a tiny bit - miss it? It's weird. Maybe it was the outpouring of support from KTC and the idea of being one of the "new kids" that I no longer have. I don't know. Maybe its because the quit seems routine now. The days are similar: craves after meals, craves after exercise, lots of seeds/gum/fake. This has been the routine for several weeks now. Some days are slightly better than others but they are all somewhat the same.
I think I have hit my first funk.
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Day 31.
One month quit.
The quit does seem to be getting slowly better. The craves are still hard but not as frequent as weeks 2 3. Days 29 30 were actually decent. Sleep is still rocky but not bad.
I am strangely kinda nostalgic of the very early days of my quit. It sounds bizarre but I think back to the first week with something like almost fondness. There is no way in hell I want to relive it but, in a way, I kind of - just a tiny bit - miss it? It's weird. Maybe it was the outpouring of support from KTC and the idea of being one of the "new kids" that I no longer have. I don't know. Maybe its because the quit seems routine now. The days are similar: craves after meals, craves after exercise, lots of seeds/gum/fake. This has been the routine for several weeks now. Some days are slightly better than others but they are all somewhat the same.
I think I have hit my first funk.
Good Great job on 31 days quit, that's wicked (and no small accomplishment). Do not ever let the quit get "routine" as that is when the nic bitch can sneak up and tell you "one wont hurt". You're gonna have some good days and some bad days, you're not far behind me but I can tell you that it does get better.
Do you have a plan for this funk, and future funks, for that matter? Make sure you do and that you utilize it... there's been plenty of times where I've had to text someone to help me through. You got a bunch of brothers here that are there if you need someone to lean on. In a funk? Shoot me a text and I will do my damn hardest to help you through it.
Congrats on one month, keep up the good work, Snotty!
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Day 31.
One month quit.
The quit does seem to be getting slowly better. The craves are still hard but not as frequent as weeks 2 3. Days 29 30 were actually decent. Sleep is still rocky but not bad.
I am strangely kinda nostalgic of the very early days of my quit. It sounds bizarre but I think back to the first week with something like almost fondness. There is no way in hell I want to relive it but, in a way, I kind of - just a tiny bit - miss it? It's weird. Maybe it was the outpouring of support from KTC and the idea of being one of the "new kids" that I no longer have. I don't know. Maybe its because the quit seems routine now. The days are similar: craves after meals, craves after exercise, lots of seeds/gum/fake. This has been the routine for several weeks now. Some days are slightly better than others but they are all somewhat the same.
I think I have hit my first funk.
Good Great job on 31 days quit, that's wicked (and no small accomplishment). Do not ever let the quit get "routine" as that is when the nic bitch can sneak up and tell you "one wont hurt". You're gonna have some good days and some bad days, you're not far behind me but I can tell you that it does get better.
Do you have a plan for this funk, and future funks, for that matter? Make sure you do and that you utilize it... there's been plenty of times where I've had to text someone to help me through. You got a bunch of brothers here that are there if you need someone to lean on. In a funk? Shoot me a text and I will do my damn hardest to help you through it.
Congrats on one month, keep up the good work, Snotty!
That's actually quite a common thought process. The spotlight is pretty bright initially, but it can fade. Hell, we have groups years old that experience this.
The key is that quit is your new normal. 31 day is fucking awesome, but your enemy can sleep practically forever. Right now, the key is to create such a strong base for this quit that you trend towards quit instead of using. As addicts, we trend towards using. As quitters, we don't. We control our actions. We set our sights on being quit and we go out and do it.
I'm proud as fuck of you man. Keep it up. Shine that spotlight right back on yourself and give back. Be visible in your group, in new groups, and pretty much everywhere.
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Thank you, Jub WP. I do have plans for my funk. The Kakao app with my fellow Titans is an outlet as well as the Live chat here. I have at least half a dozen numbers and get/send the occasional text. Thankfully, I have not reached a point in my quit where I have had to get talked out of a cave. The tools I have established (as recommended by people here) have worked. But if the need to reach out arises I know I have the support in spades.
I will get used to this new normal. I've also used this quit as an opportunity to drop some old bad habits (that I associated with nicotine) and develop some new good habits that will be nicotine-free from the start. That hasn't been easy but the persistence is starting to pay off.
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Thank you, Jub WP. I do have plans for my funk. The Kakao app with my fellow Titans is an outlet as well as the Live chat here. I have at least half a dozen numbers and get/send the occasional text. Thankfully, I have not reached a point in my quit where I have had to get talked out of a cave. The tools I have established (as recommended by people here) have worked. But if the need to reach out arises I know I have the support in spades.
I will get used to this new normal. I've also used this quit as an opportunity to drop some old bad habits (that I associated with nicotine) and develop some new good habits that will be nicotine-free from the start. That hasn't been easy but the persistence is starting to pay off.
Keep preparing for that eventual trauma or stress that's gonna make you want to buy a can. When that moment arrives you have to be ready. When that moment arrives you will say, "fuck you, nicotine. I'm educated and I know that 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems".
This is your education. Soak it in and be prepared. Something fucked up will happen eventually and based on what you are learning today, there will be no acceptable excuse for caving. Only pure hatred and disrespect for yourself could possibly usurp your preparation and, even more so, your word that you've given us daily here on roll call.
I quit with you today.
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Day 36.
The funk slowly seems to be going away. The craves are less frequent but seem to be more intense. Thankfully, I have the tools in place and can withstand the storms. Live chat has been my relief.
When not craving which is a majority of the time, I'm starting to discover and enjoy this new life of no nicotine. It sounds cliche but sometimes - every now and then - I get this feeling of joy that I am alive and free. Usually get this feeling when I am outside. Its hard to explain - the grass seems greener (or browner this time of year), the sky seems bluer, I don't want to beat my kids. ;)
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Day 36.
The funk slowly seems to be going away. The craves are less frequent but seem to be more intense. Thankfully, I have the tools in place and can withstand the storms. Live chat has been my relief.
When not craving which is a majority of the time, I'm starting to discover and enjoy this new life of no nicotine. It sounds cliche but sometimes - every now and then - I get this feeling of joy that I am alive and free. Usually get this feeling when I am outside. Its hard to explain - the grass seems greener (or browner this time of year), the sky seems bluer, I don't want to beat my kids. ;)
nice job snot as looks like coming out of those mid-30 blues....
keep up the good quit
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Day 36.
The funk slowly seems to be going away. The craves are less frequent but seem to be more intense. Thankfully, I have the tools in place and can withstand the storms. Live chat has been my relief.
When not craving which is a majority of the time, I'm starting to discover and enjoy this new life of no nicotine. It sounds cliche but sometimes - every now and then - I get this feeling of joy that I am alive and free. Usually get this feeling when I am outside. Its hard to explain - the grass seems greener (or browner this time of year), the sky seems bluer, I don't want to beat my kids. ;)
nice job snot as looks like coming out of those mid-30 blues....
keep up the good quit
Keep it up snot. Days 20-40 kind of sucked. I remember being really pissed my craves weren't lessening. Great thing with Quitting is if you hit a rough patch, just hang in and it always gets better. 36 days is no joke. Congrats.
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Day 36.
The funk slowly seems to be going away. The craves are less frequent but seem to be more intense. Thankfully, I have the tools in place and can withstand the storms. Live chat has been my relief.
When not craving which is a majority of the time, I'm starting to discover and enjoy this new life of no nicotine. It sounds cliche but sometimes - every now and then - I get this feeling of joy that I am alive and free. Usually get this feeling when I am outside. Its hard to explain - the grass seems greener (or browner this time of year), the sky seems bluer, I don't want to beat my kids. ;)
nice job snot as looks like coming out of those mid-30 blues....
keep up the good quit
Keep it up snot. Days 20-40 kind of sucked. I remember being really pissed my craves weren't lessening. Great thing with Quitting is if you hit a rough patch, just hang in and it always gets better. 36 days is no joke. Congrats.
^^^^ QFT, you'll get some nice "normal" days in once this funk blows over!
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Day 44.
I can actually go hours at a time without a crave or even thinking about nic. Most craves are manageable now but every now and then I get a monster crave that makes me feel like I am back at week 1. I had one of those yesterday. The difference now is that I know craves are temporary and if I ride the storm I will come out stronger on the other side.
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Day 23.
First of all, thank you all for the comments. I truly appreciate the support you all provide. I hope that one day I can pay it all back as a "vet."
The days from 14 to now have been similar. Daily craves, the occasional rage, still a light fog. Some days are better than others. The craves seem to be getting less frequent. What used to seem to be hourly craves are now every couple of hours. Today was a pretty good day. I can probably count on one hand the number of craves I had. I have the tools in place to handle them now.
To newbies that read this, Day 23 is much better then day 14 which was much better than day 7 which was... well, you get the idea. Hang in there, it will be better. If you have a rough day, power through it and see what tomorrow brings. Chances are, it will be better.
I know I am not out of the woods. I will have more tough days. But for the first time I am starting to get a feel for what life after dip is like.
You have know idea yet snot. Keep making your way to the door. Good things coming. Things started really turning around for me around day 40 or so. You got a great quit going. Stay with the program and keep laying the foundation. This foundation will not fail unless you tear it down yourself. I don't have not 1 better thing to do, but honor this word I've given to you and 1000's of others today.
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Day 50.
Hard to believe it's been 50 days. 50 days and I still have craves. Just goes to show you how evil nicotine really is. Granted, the craves are not as frequent as the first couple of weeks but they are certainly still there. I can and do go several hours without nicotine crossing my mind. But then a trigger pops up and the crave is there. Most craves do seem weaker now. A hit of fake, some gum, or a jolly rancher and I'm good in a few minutes. It's - in a word - tolerable now.
I'm already starting to think about my HOF speech. I see that as a good sign. The support here has been amazing. You truly get out of this site what you put into it. I feel sorry for those who never go beyond posting a "day count". They are missing out on so much that could help them.
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Day 50.
Hard to believe it's been 50 days. 50 days and I still have craves. Just goes to show you how evil nicotine really is. Granted, the craves are not as frequent as the first couple of weeks but they are certainly still there. I can and do go several hours without nicotine crossing my mind. But then a trigger pops up and the crave is there. Most craves do seem weaker now. A hit of fake, some gum, or a jolly rancher and I'm good in a few minutes. It's - in a word - tolerable now.
I'm already starting to think about my HOF speech. I see that as a good sign. The support here has been amazing. You truly get out of this site what you put into it. I feel sorry for those who never go beyond posting a "day count". They are missing out on so much that could help them.
50 is bad ass Snot, but focus on Day 50 today, and not an HoF speech in 50 more days. We lost a brother in July today after his HoF today, the nic bitch is a vile whore waiting for all of us at our weakest.
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Day 51.
After a day 50 that went okay I seem to have hit another funk. Work is stressful, commitments outside of work are growing, and I'm behind on what seems like everything. I have not been this stressed out in months and it sucks. My procrastination is not helping. I'm still committed to the quit but it seems to be not very high in my priority list of everything else going on.
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Day 51.
After a day 50 that went okay I seem to have hit another funk. Work is stressful, commitments outside of work are growing, and I'm behind on what seems like everything. I have not been this stressed out in months and it sucks. My procrastination is not helping. I'm still committed to the quit but it seems to be not very high in my priority list of everything else going on.
Snot,
Boil it down to the basics. Post roll, honor that promise, repeat. No need for quit to be any more complicated than that. Life is ebbs and tides. Right now you are at high tide... it will pass.
Be committed to the discipline of quit... the extras will come when things calm down.
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Day 51.
After a day 50 that went okay I seem to have hit another funk. Work is stressful, commitments outside of work are growing, and I'm behind on what seems like everything. I have not been this stressed out in months and it sucks. My procrastination is not helping. I'm still committed to the quit but it seems to be not very high in my priority list of everything else going on.
Snot,
Boil it down to the basics. Post roll, honor that promise, repeat. No need for quit to be any more complicated than that. Life is ebbs and tides. Right now you are at high tide... it will pass.
Be committed to the discipline of quit... the extras will come when things calm down.
Shits busy and you say your quit isn't very high on your list right now.
You know what...I get it.
Just make sure that caving doesn't make its way up on that list. Going back to the can isn't going to slow your life down. It fills no voids in your life...it creates more.
Post role and stay quit. That's all u gotta do.
Quit on...
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Day 51.
After a day 50 that went okay I seem to have hit another funk. Work is stressful, commitments outside of work are growing, and I'm behind on what seems like everything. I have not been this stressed out in months and it sucks. My procrastination is not helping. I'm still committed to the quit but it seems to be not very high in my priority list of everything else going on.
Snot,
Boil it down to the basics. Post roll, honor that promise, repeat. No need for quit to be any more complicated than that. Life is ebbs and tides. Right now you are at high tide... it will pass.
Be committed to the discipline of quit... the extras will come when things calm down.
Shits busy and you say your quit isn't very high on your list right now.
You know what...I get it.
Just make sure that caving doesn't make its way up on that list. Going back to the can isn't going to slow your life down. It fills no voids in your life...it creates more.
Post role and stay quit. That's all u gotta do.
Quit on...
Hi - you have made great progress and the physical part is over /-- being stressed out happens and I can promise you that going back to nic in any form will not make anything better.
The items that are piled up -
That can be stressful - knock them out one at a
Time and do what you can -
You can get them all
Done at the same time.
Keep you quit : keep your promise - keep your life
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Day 65.
Haven't updated this in a while because quite frankly the quit has been tolerable for the past couple of weeks. I've been going hours at a time not even thinking about nic. I've only thought about it during the major trigger times (after dinner, after workouts, on the computer) and the craves have been manageable.
Then today hit and it's like I'm back on day 20. Headache, craves, agitated. Not quite 'first week bad' but worse than it's been in weeks. The craves just won't go away. Gum, candy help for about two minutes. Nowhere near a cave, just annoyed. The craves are annoying because they won't win so they should just go away and stop being annoying. I made my promise today so nic is off the table.
I also think I've reached a point where the fake stuff just makes it worse. It was useful the first 6 weeks but now it seems to make the craves worse. I think it's time to wean myself off of fake. I"ll finish what I got but not get any more.
Crave, crave, go away, come again... no!... go away forever!
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Day 51.
After a day 50 that went okay I seem to have hit another funk. Work is stressful, commitments outside of work are growing, and I'm behind on what seems like everything. I have not been this stressed out in months and it sucks. My procrastination is not helping. I'm still committed to the quit but it seems to be not very high in my priority list of everything else going on.
'embarrassed'
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Day 65.
Haven't updated this in a while because quite frankly the quit has been tolerable for the past couple of weeks. I've been going hours at a time not even thinking about nic. I've only thought about it during the major trigger times (after dinner, after workouts, on the computer) and the craves have been manageable.
Then today hit and it's like I'm back on day 20. Headache, craves, agitated. Not quite 'first week bad' but worse than it's been in weeks. The craves just won't go away. Gum, candy help for about two minutes. Nowhere near a cave, just annoyed. The craves are annoying because they won't win so they should just go away and stop being annoying. I made my promise today so nic is off the table.
I also think I've reached a point where the fake stuff just makes it worse. It was useful the first 6 weeks but now it seems to make the craves worse. I think it's time to wean myself off of fake. I"ll finish what I got but not get any more.
Crave, crave, go away, come again... no!... go away forever!
Your in a pre-70s funk/fog... Hits everyone here eventually. You're cruising along then bang. It happens again later too. Sorry. I still chomp on gum at work. It never goes completely away I don't think. Stick this out man. You can do it. Caving is not an option and you need to be able to say that to yourself. Text somebody in your group. Reach out man. There is someone who can help you.... PM me if you need mine...
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Day 65.
Haven't updated this in a while because quite frankly the quit has been tolerable for the past couple of weeks. I've been going hours at a time not even thinking about nic. I've only thought about it during the major trigger times (after dinner, after workouts, on the computer) and the craves have been manageable.
Then today hit and it's like I'm back on day 20. Headache, craves, agitated. Not quite 'first week bad' but worse than it's been in weeks. The craves just won't go away. Gum, candy help for about two minutes. Nowhere near a cave, just annoyed. The craves are annoying because they won't win so they should just go away and stop being annoying. I made my promise today so nic is off the table.
I also think I've reached a point where the fake stuff just makes it worse. It was useful the first 6 weeks but now it seems to make the craves worse. I think it's time to wean myself off of fake. I"ll finish what I got but not get any more.
Crave, crave, go away, come again... no!... go away forever!
Your in a pre-70s funk/fog... Hits everyone here eventually. You're cruising along then bang. It happens again later too. Sorry. I still chomp on gum at work. It never goes completely away I don't think. Stick this out man. You can do it. Caving is not an option and you need to be able to say that to yourself. Text somebody in your group. Reach out man. There is someone who can help you.... PM me if you need mine...
Yep. Sounds like The Funk to me. Hang in there bro. Re-commit.
Explaining "The Funk" Part 1 http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-1/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-1/)
Explaining "The Funk" Part 2 http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-2/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-2/)
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Day 65.
Haven't updated this in a while because quite frankly the quit has been tolerable for the past couple of weeks. I've been going hours at a time not even thinking about nic. I've only thought about it during the major trigger times (after dinner, after workouts, on the computer) and the craves have been manageable.
Then today hit and it's like I'm back on day 20. Headache, craves, agitated. Not quite 'first week bad' but worse than it's been in weeks. The craves just won't go away. Gum, candy help for about two minutes. Nowhere near a cave, just annoyed. The craves are annoying because they won't win so they should just go away and stop being annoying. I made my promise today so nic is off the table.
I also think I've reached a point where the fake stuff just makes it worse. It was useful the first 6 weeks but now it seems to make the craves worse. I think it's time to wean myself off of fake. I"ll finish what I got but not get any more.
Crave, crave, go away, come again... no!... go away forever!
Your in a pre-70s funk/fog... Hits everyone here eventually. You're cruising along then bang. It happens again later too. Sorry. I still chomp on gum at work. It never goes completely away I don't think. Stick this out man. You can do it. Caving is not an option and you need to be able to say that to yourself. Text somebody in your group. Reach out man. There is someone who can help you.... PM me if you need mine...
Yep. Sounds like The Funk to me. Hang in there bro. Re-commit.
Explaining "The Funk" Part 1 http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-1/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-1/)
Explaining "The Funk" Part 2 http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-2/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-2/)
Snot, its time to grab your sack again. I remember the exact same feeling. Trust me, it doesn't last long but it is powerful. two days and you are right back on easy street for a few weeks. Just stay quit and you won't regret it, however if you come here and post day 1 you will feel like the slime on the bottom of a slug. We get your funk, fight through it like the winner that you are.
Mogul
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Day 65.
Haven't updated this in a while because quite frankly the quit has been tolerable for the past couple of weeks. I've been going hours at a time not even thinking about nic. I've only thought about it during the major trigger times (after dinner, after workouts, on the computer) and the craves have been manageable.
Then today hit and it's like I'm back on day 20. Headache, craves, agitated. Not quite 'first week bad' but worse than it's been in weeks. The craves just won't go away. Gum, candy help for about two minutes. Nowhere near a cave, just annoyed. The craves are annoying because they won't win so they should just go away and stop being annoying. I made my promise today so nic is off the table.
I also think I've reached a point where the fake stuff just makes it worse. It was useful the first 6 weeks but now it seems to make the craves worse. I think it's time to wean myself off of fake. I"ll finish what I got but not get any more.
Crave, crave, go away, come again... no!... go away forever!
Your in a pre-70s funk/fog... Hits everyone here eventually. You're cruising along then bang. It happens again later too. Sorry. I still chomp on gum at work. It never goes completely away I don't think. Stick this out man. You can do it. Caving is not an option and you need to be able to say that to yourself. Text somebody in your group. Reach out man. There is someone who can help you.... PM me if you need mine...
Yep. Sounds like The Funk to me. Hang in there bro. Re-commit.
Explaining "The Funk" Part 1 http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-1/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-1/)
Explaining "The Funk" Part 2 http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-2/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-2/)
Snot, its time to grab your sack again. I remember the exact same feeling. Trust me, it doesn't last long but it is powerful. two days and you are right back on easy street for a few weeks. Just stay quit and you won't regret it, however if you come here and post day 1 you will feel like the slime on the bottom of a slug. We get your funk, fight through it like the winner that you are.
Mogul
Thank you all for the support. This evening is already slightly better than the rest of the day. I'll fight through this funk. No way I'm caving and letting my Titan brothers and sisters down.
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Day 65.
Haven't updated this in a while because quite frankly the quit has been tolerable for the past couple of weeks. I've been going hours at a time not even thinking about nic. I've only thought about it during the major trigger times (after dinner, after workouts, on the computer) and the craves have been manageable.
Then today hit and it's like I'm back on day 20. Headache, craves, agitated. Not quite 'first week bad' but worse than it's been in weeks. The craves just won't go away. Gum, candy help for about two minutes. Nowhere near a cave, just annoyed. The craves are annoying because they won't win so they should just go away and stop being annoying. I made my promise today so nic is off the table.
I also think I've reached a point where the fake stuff just makes it worse. It was useful the first 6 weeks but now it seems to make the craves worse. I think it's time to wean myself off of fake. I"ll finish what I got but not get any more.
Crave, crave, go away, come again... no!... go away forever!
Your in a pre-70s funk/fog... Hits everyone here eventually. You're cruising along then bang. It happens again later too. Sorry. I still chomp on gum at work. It never goes completely away I don't think. Stick this out man. You can do it. Caving is not an option and you need to be able to say that to yourself. Text somebody in your group. Reach out man. There is someone who can help you.... PM me if you need mine...
Yep. Sounds like The Funk to me. Hang in there bro. Re-commit.
Explaining "The Funk" Part 1 http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-1/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-1/)
Explaining "The Funk" Part 2 http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-2/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-2/)
Snot, its time to grab your sack again. I remember the exact same feeling. Trust me, it doesn't last long but it is powerful. two days and you are right back on easy street for a few weeks. Just stay quit and you won't regret it, however if you come here and post day 1 you will feel like the slime on the bottom of a slug. We get your funk, fight through it like the winner that you are.
Mogul
Thank you all for the support. This evening is already slightly better than the rest of the day. I'll fight through this funk. No way I'm caving and letting my Titan brothers and sisters down.
Snot like the rest of the guys I was there too. Run down, felt like I was back in the fog. I kind of see this as your addiction making a final charge at your will power. Unfortunately the funk for me lasted for 30ish days. But the back end of this is a whole lot of sunshine. Keep grinding.
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Day 68.
Still in a funk. Sucks big time. Feels like week 2. 'bang head'
Not going to let it win. I will succeed.
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Day 68.
Still in a funk. Sucks big time. Feels like week 2. 'bang head'
Not going to let it win. I will succeed.
Hang in there bro... I'm guessing by the time Monday rolls around you'll be good as gold.
And you'll be marching your way to the HOF.
Drink water, go back to basics... pretend like it IS your first two weeks. You did "things" to get you to day 68. Do those "things" again.
PM me and you got another number in your arsenal... keep posting. You're on the right track.
chewie
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Thanks, Chewie.
Day 68 still and it's not a good day.
Just had to put our family dog of 14 years down this afternoon. Feeling pretty crummy but I know nic will not help and only make matters worse. Now, beer on the other hand...
Still quit, not gonna cave, but day 68 is turning into one of the worst days of my quit.
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Thanks, Chewie.
Day 68 still and it's not a good day.
Just had to put our family dog of 14 years down this afternoon. Feeling pretty crummy but I know nic will not help and only make matters worse. Now, beer on the other hand...
Still quit, not gonna cave, but day 68 is turning into one of the worst days of my quit.
Sorry to hear about the loss of your family member. Quit with you, Snot.
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Day 73.
I think I am finally coming out of my funk and the thing that triggered me coming out was a dip dream last night. I dreamed I had caved and woke up this morning thinking for a few seconds that it was real. The feeling of disappointment, regret, and - most of all - shame for those few seconds was depressing and sad. I think it triggered a renewed resolve to stay quit for good. The dream showed me how stupid and shameful going back would be now.
As a result, the rest of the day has been much better than the previous week. I'm quit today.
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Day 73.
I think I am finally coming out of my funk and the thing that triggered me coming out was a dip dream last night. I dreamed I had caved and woke up this morning thinking for a few seconds that it was real. The feeling of disappointment, regret, and - most of all - shame for those few seconds was depressing and sad. I think it triggered a renewed resolve to stay quit for good. The dream showed me how stupid and shameful going back would be now.
As a result, the rest of the day has been much better than the previous week. I'm quit today.
Right on Snot! My worst time so far was around day 78 and it was 3 days of crap like in the beginning. Since then its been pretty good. I hope it goes the same for you. The main thing is you have the tools to fight off all craves. Keep going man. Better days ahead.
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Day 79.
I had a few good days last week but it seems that around day 77 I went back into the funk. Yeterday and today have been brutal. My mind is trying to play tricks on me telling me that 77/78/79 days is good enough. I have to keep reminding myself that I am quit for good. I just don't do that anymore.
Days 50 - 65 seem like a breeze compared to what I am going through now. I hope this shit gets better soon. I can see now how every group loses a few at this time. If it wasn't for all the accountability I've built up and tools I have been using to get me through (kakao, chat, text) I could see how I would not make it. Thank God I was smart and took this quit seriously knowing I can not do this alone.
I will survive and persevere thanks to the support of many here, most of which the support of my fellow Titans.
And in just typing this update, I've beaten a crave. 'na na'
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Day 79.
I had a few good days last week but it seems that around day 77 I went back into the funk. Yeterday and today have been brutal. My mind is trying to play tricks on me telling me that 77/78/79 days is good enough. I have to keep reminding myself that I am quit for good. I just don't do that anymore.
Days 50 - 65 seem like a breeze compared to what I am going through now. I hope this shit gets better soon. I can see now how every group loses a few at this time. If it wasn't for all the accountability I've built up and tools I have been using to get me through (kakao, chat, text) I could see how I would not make it. Thank God I was smart and took this quit seriously knowing I can not do this alone.
I will survive and persevere thanks to the support of many here, most of which the support of my fellow Titans.
And in just typing this update, I've beaten a crave. 'na na'
Focus on the now and forget about 'for good'. Quit today. Wake up and quit again. You'll get through this. You've got my number- holler if you need anything.
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Day 79.
I had a few good days last week but it seems that around day 77 I went back into the funk. Yeterday and today have been brutal. My mind is trying to play tricks on me telling me that 77/78/79 days is good enough. I have to keep reminding myself that I am quit for good. I just don't do that anymore.
Days 50 - 65 seem like a breeze compared to what I am going through now. I hope this shit gets better soon. I can see now how every group loses a few at this time. If it wasn't for all the accountability I've built up and tools I have been using to get me through (kakao, chat, text) I could see how I would not make it. Thank God I was smart and took this quit seriously knowing I can not do this alone.
I will survive and persevere thanks to the support of many here, most of which the support of my fellow Titans.
And in just typing this update, I've beaten a crave. 'na na'
Focus on the now and forget about 'for good'. Quit today. Wake up and quit again. You'll get through this. You've got my number- holler if you need anything.
Hang in there Snot. The 70s funk is bad. The HOF funk is pretty bad too. Sometime after that, you'll get more comfortable with the "for good." For now, settle with "for today."
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Day 83.
Thank you all for the support. I think I am finally emerging from the funk. My quit feels stronger these days. ODAAT has been my savior.
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Congrats on HOF Snot. Quit with you EDD
Old ES
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Congrats on HOF Snot. Quit with you EDD
Old ES
I'm with the old guy on this one ... congrats Snot!
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Congrats on HOF Snot. Quit with you EDD
Old ES
I'm with the old guy on this one ... congrats Snot!
Snot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrSxWlyGW-8)
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Congrats you Mississippi Leg Hound! Keep up the great quit. QUIT WITH YOU 100% EDD! Quit on!
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Congrats you Mississippi Leg Hound! Keep up the great quit. QUIT WITH YOU 100% EDD! Quit on!
Nice job, snotrocket.
Keep up the good work.
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Congrats you Mississippi Leg Hound! Keep up the great quit. QUIT WITH YOU 100% EDD! Quit on!
Nice job brother! Enjoy the day and come back tomorrow with a +1 and help some newbs get through their funk. Proud of you man!
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Nice work Snot!!!!! Stick around and help a newbie!!!!
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Well done Snot!
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Well done Snotface! Enjoy the day, you've earned it!
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Day 101.
Thank you all for the congrats and the support for these first 100 days. Day 100 was a great day because I realized the accountability I had built over the past 100 days. I've been active in just about every aspect of this site:
- posting roll in my group EDD,
- posting roll in several other groups,
- posting support in new groups,
- active (to some degree) in the new groups; offering advice as I can,
- on live chat several times a week,
- texting several quitters periodically; having well over a dozen numbers
- using the "controversial" kakao app, and
- this intro
The result of all this activity is meeting and gaining the support of dozens here. So, on day 100 my phone and PM box lit up with fellow quitters congratulating me. Then getting the congrats in the support section of October, kakao, and live chat was awesome.
I built that accountability because I knew that I needed it and I still do. Although I am in the HoF, I will still post roll EDD, I'll keep up this intro, and I will be in live chat and kakao. I still need all my tools. I still need all of you holding me accountable. The nice thing is that I think I have some experience now that I can give back to the new groups and I am starting to do that. Y'all ain't gonna get rid of me that easily.
'oh yeah'
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Day 101.
Thank you all for the congrats and the support for these first 100 days. Day 100 was a great day because I realized the accountability I had built over the past 100 days. I've been active in just about every aspect of this site:
- posting roll in my group EDD,
- posting roll in several other groups,
- posting support in new groups,
- active (to some degree) in the new groups; offering advice as I can,
- on live chat several times a week,
- texting several quitters periodically; having well over a dozen numbers
- using the "controversial" kakao app, and
- this intro
The result of all this activity is meeting and gaining the support of dozens here. So, on day 100 my phone and PM box lit up with fellow quitters congratulating me. Then getting the congrats in the support section of October, kakao, and live chat was awesome.
I built that accountability because I knew that I needed it and I still do. Although I am in the HoF, I will still post roll EDD, I'll keep up this intro, and I will be in live chat and kakao. I still need all my tools. I still need all of you holding me accountable. The nice thing is that I think I have some experience now that I can give back to the new groups and I am starting to do that. Y'all ain't gonna get rid of me that easily.
'oh yeah'
no activity since 01/25/15???
Apparently, you got rid of yourself? Sad part is, I saw zero discussion within October's pages about your MIA status. I'm unsure how the hell that happens with a quit like yours.
Can anyone elaborate here? 'Crazy'
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Day 101.
Thank you all for the congrats and the support for these first 100 days. Day 100 was a great day because I realized the accountability I had built over the past 100 days. I've been active in just about every aspect of this site:
- posting roll in my group EDD,
- posting roll in several other groups,
- posting support in new groups,
- active (to some degree) in the new groups; offering advice as I can,
- on live chat several times a week,
- texting several quitters periodically; having well over a dozen numbers
- using the "controversial" kakao app, and
- this intro
The result of all this activity is meeting and gaining the support of dozens here. So, on day 100 my phone and PM box lit up with fellow quitters congratulating me. Then getting the congrats in the support section of October, kakao, and live chat was awesome.
I built that accountability because I knew that I needed it and I still do. Although I am in the HoF, I will still post roll EDD, I'll keep up this intro, and I will be in live chat and kakao. I still need all my tools. I still need all of you holding me accountable. The nice thing is that I think I have some experience now that I can give back to the new groups and I am starting to do that. Y'all ain't gonna get rid of me that easily.
'oh yeah'
no activity since 01/25/15???
Apparently, you got rid of yourself? Sad part is, I saw zero discussion within October's pages about your MIA status. I'm unsure how the hell that happens with a quit like yours.
Can anyone elaborate here? 'Crazy'
Poof