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Title: On Day 5
Post by: nicknick on July 18, 2013, 01:42:00 PM
Hey guys,

I'm on day 5 of my quit. I'm proud of myself, but I've done it before. I am 23 and I started dipping with my buddies from time to time in 5th grade, then became an everyday dipper in 7th grade. I used Copenhagen Long Cut most often, and Grizzly Wintergreen for a few years. I just graduated college and will be attending law school this fall. I certainly wanted to get through the heavy lifting of my quit before feeling the stress of law school.

Last summer, I didn't dip for about 6 weeks. This quit is different though. In the past I thought it was okay to get a dip here and there, like one every three weeks or so. Also, the partying that comes along with undergrad dragged me back. Now I won't have the frat lifestyle to bring back my old habits.

The reason for my quit is simple: my teeth are getting pretty messed up. Last year, I had a root canal. So obviously, I had to switch sides I dip on. Now, my teeth are getting pretty bad on the other side. I always had a great smile in high school, even though I dipped. It has gotten yellowed quite a bit, and my dentist cringes when he looks in my mouth.

Now, I'm to the age where I am interested in dating and settling down long term. I don't want a disgusting habit to deter a total babe. I fucking love dipping. But, it's not worth risking long term happiness and/or health over.

Nick
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: 05wrxing on July 18, 2013, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: nicknick
Hey guys,

I'm on day 5 of my quit. I'm proud of myself, but I've done it before. I am 23 and I started dipping with my buddies from time to time in 5th grade, then became an everyday dipper in 7th grade. I used Copenhagen Long Cut most often, and Grizzly Wintergreen for a few years. I just graduated college and will be attending law school this fall. I certainly wanted to get through the heavy lifting of my quit before feeling the stress of law school.

Last summer, I didn't dip for about 6 weeks. This quit is different though. In the past I thought it was okay to get a dip here and there, like one every three weeks or so. Also, the partying that comes along with undergrad dragged me back. Now I won't have the frat lifestyle to bring back my old habits.

The reason for my quit is simple: my teeth are getting pretty messed up. Last year, I had a root canal. So obviously, I had to switch sides I dip on. Now, my teeth are getting pretty bad on the other side. I always had a great smile in high school, even though I dipped. It has gotten yellowed quite a bit, and my dentist cringes when he looks in my mouth.

Now, I'm to the age where I am interested in dating and settling down long term. I don't want a disgusting habit to deter a total babe. I fucking love dipping. But, it's not worth risking long term happiness and/or health over.

Nick
What in the world could you possibly love about dipping???? The yellowing teeth??? The cancer that it will eventually cause??? The shit breath??? or is it all of the above??? You need to change that attitude really fast if you want this quit to work because with the word love and dip in your intro it spells failure to me... I hope I am way wrong, I wanna see you succeed and kick the nic bitch to the curb for good... To do that though, you need to fn hate dip, not love it... I will help you in anyway that I can, feel free to pm me anytime.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: jrod on July 18, 2013, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: 05wrxing
Quote from: nicknick
Hey guys,

I'm on day 5 of my quit. I'm proud of myself, but I've done it before. I am 23 and I started dipping with my buddies from time to time in 5th grade, then became an everyday dipper in 7th grade. I used Copenhagen Long Cut most often, and Grizzly Wintergreen for a few years. I just graduated college and will be attending law school this fall. I certainly wanted to get through the heavy lifting of my quit before feeling the stress of law school.

Last summer, I didn't dip for about 6 weeks. This quit is different though. In the past I thought it was okay to get a dip here and there, like one every three weeks or so. Also, the partying that comes along with undergrad dragged me back. Now I won't have the frat lifestyle to bring back my old habits.

The reason for my quit is simple: my teeth are getting pretty messed up. Last year, I had a root canal. So obviously, I had to switch sides I dip on. Now, my teeth are getting pretty bad on the other side. I always had a great smile in high school, even though I dipped. It has gotten yellowed quite a bit, and my dentist cringes when he looks in my mouth.

Now, I'm to the age where I am interested in dating and settling down long term. I don't want a disgusting habit to deter a total babe. I fucking love dipping. But, it's not worth risking long term happiness and/or health over.

Nick
What in the world could you possibly love about dipping???? The yellowing teeth??? The cancer that it will eventually cause??? The shit breath??? or is it all of the above??? You need to change that attitude really fast if you want this quit to work because with the word love and dip in your intro it spells failure to me... I hope I am way wrong, I wanna see you succeed and kick the nic bitch to the curb for good... To do that though, you need to fn hate dip, not love it... I will help you in anyway that I can, feel free to pm me anytime.
I'm with 05wrxing. What exactly do you love most about dipping?
A. Hugely increases your chance of getting oral cancer, at which point you have a life expectancy of less than 5 years. Best case scenario they cut out all the cancer when removing your face.
B. Spitting on your dick when you're on the toilet.
C. Panicking when you leave your can at home - slavery to the can.
D. The lie that it relieves stress.
E. Stained teeth, as you pointed out. Fear of dentist visits.
F. The "buzz" that you haven't actually gotten in years.

The list goes on.

Get your head straight. You hate dipping. Dip is poison, literally. Go look up the ingredients if you haven't.

PM me if you need help. PM anyone on this site. We are all here because we hate dip, but that sneaky bitch is tough to kick. Step 1 is to hate the poison and really WANT to quit. If you want this quit, REALLY want it, you can't fail.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on July 18, 2013, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: 05wrxing
Quote from: nicknick
Hey guys,

I'm on day 5 of my quit. I'm proud of myself, but I've done it before. I am 23 and I started dipping with my buddies from time to time in 5th grade, then became an everyday dipper in 7th grade. I used Copenhagen Long Cut most often, and Grizzly Wintergreen for a few years. I just graduated college and will be attending law school this fall. I certainly wanted to get through the heavy lifting of my quit before feeling the stress of law school.

Last summer, I didn't dip for about 6 weeks. This quit is different though. In the past I thought it was okay to get a dip here and there, like one every three weeks or so. Also, the partying that comes along with undergrad dragged me back. Now I won't have the frat lifestyle to bring back my old habits.

The reason for my quit is simple: my teeth are getting pretty messed up. Last year, I had a root canal. So obviously, I had to switch sides I dip on. Now, my teeth are getting pretty bad on the other side. I always had a great smile in high school, even though I dipped. It has gotten yellowed quite a bit, and my dentist cringes when he looks in my mouth.

Now, I'm to the age where I am interested in dating and settling down long term. I don't want a disgusting habit to deter a total babe. I fucking love dipping. But, it's not worth risking long term happiness and/or health over.

Nick
What in the world could you possibly love about dipping???? The yellowing teeth??? The cancer that it will eventually cause??? The shit breath??? or is it all of the above??? You need to change that attitude really fast if you want this quit to work because with the word love and dip in your intro it spells failure to me... I hope I am way wrong, I wanna see you succeed and kick the nic bitch to the curb for good... To do that though, you need to fn hate dip, not love it... I will help you in anyway that I can, feel free to pm me anytime.
Hey, Congratulations on day 5. That is great. I know that you seem like you loved to dip,but it turns out that was all a lie dip has been telling you. I felt similarly, that I had to say good-bye to an old friend, but as you get into this, the truth will reveal itself. The nicbitch just convinced you that you liked it, otherwise you wouldn't have put up with being led around town and through life by a little can and its whims. As you free yourself each day, you will start to see through the addiction.
Stay strong, I am quit with you.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on July 18, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
First off welcome nicnic. I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit. I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long. I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love.

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave. You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison. MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at your age. I wish I would have wised up at your age. I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!!

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return. I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price. Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again? I have been told that this may return with time. MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways. I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me. MAYBE!!! I've read that nicotine directly affects memory. So far
I'm not able to dispute that. I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things. MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison. MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes. I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me. If your interested in that find my intro. I've had three people in my life affected by cancer. All three are and were users. One is still alive and fighting for his life. Throat cancer.

I to loved the poison at one time. Are you able to tell me why?? I can't tell you. Not one time did it love me back!!!!! Quit with you.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: nicknick on July 18, 2013, 06:58:00 PM
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic. I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit. I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long. I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love.

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave. You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison. MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at your age. I wish I would have wised up at your age. I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!!

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return. I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price. Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again? I have been told that this may return with time. MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways. I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me. MAYBE!!! I've read that nicotine directly affects memory. So far
I'm not able to dispute that. I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things. MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison. MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes. I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me. If your interested in that find my intro. I've had three people in my life affected by cancer. All three are and were users. One is still alive and fighting for his life. Throat cancer.

I to loved the poison at one time. Are you able to tell me why?? I can't tell you. Not one time did it love me back!!!!! Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on July 18, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic.  I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit.  I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long.  I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love. 

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave.  You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison.  MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at  your age.  I wish I would have wised up at your age.  I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.  

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!! 

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return.  I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price.  Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again?  I have been told that this may return with time.  MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways.  I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me.  MAYBE!!!  I've read that nicotine directly affects memory.  So far
I'm not able to dispute that.  I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things.  MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.       

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison.  MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes.  I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me.  If your interested in that find my intro.  I've had three people in my life affected by cancer.  All three are and were users.  One is still alive and fighting for his life.  Throat cancer.  

I to loved the poison at one time.   Are you able to tell me why??  I can't tell you.  Not one time did it love me back!!!!!  Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
That's the anger i was looking for. Now your sounding like a quitter. Turn that hate towards the poison and your quit will grow stronger.

You stated you loved something i despise. My life doesn't suck. I'm giving you facts. You may not realize it but your quit just got stronger. Prove to me your not in the 95 percent. I will dance around a tree for a week.

I want nothing more than to see you succeed. Part of you succeeding is getting your mind right. You buying that can and stating your love for the poison was to close. Don't like me, hate me all you want. Stay quit,,,, that's my goal. I'm not hear for your friendship. If i gain another friend that would be great. I would like for it to be a quit friend. I'm quit with you bro whether you know it or not.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: 05wrxing on July 18, 2013, 08:38:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic.  I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit.  I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long.  I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love. 

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave.  You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison.  MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at  your age.  I wish I would have wised up at your age.  I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.  

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!! 

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return.  I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price.  Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again?  I have been told that this may return with time.  MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways.  I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me.  MAYBE!!!  I've read that nicotine directly affects memory.  So far
I'm not able to dispute that.  I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things.  MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.       

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison.  MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes.  I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me.  If your interested in that find my intro.  I've had three people in my life affected by cancer.  All three are and were users.  One is still alive and fighting for his life.  Throat cancer.  

I to loved the poison at one time.   Are you able to tell me why??  I can't tell you.  Not one time did it love me back!!!!!  Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
That's the anger i was looking for. Now your sounding like a quitter. Turn that hate towards the poison and your quit will grow stronger.

You stated you loved something i despise. My life doesn't suck. I'm giving you facts. You may not realize it but your quit just got stronger. Prove to me your not in the 95 percent. I will dance around a tree for a week.

I want nothing more than to see you succeed. Part of you succeeding is getting your mind right. You buying that can and stating your love for the poison was to close. Don't like me, hate me all you want. Stay quit,,,, that's my goal. I'm not hear for your friendship. If i gain another friend that would be great. I would like for it to be a quit friend. I'm quit with you bro whether you know it or not.
Srans has it right my friend. We are here to help you quit this horrible addiction and get a hold back on your life. I despise the dip as well, dip is the reason that im an addict and can never have just one more. None of us can!!! We may be a little rough with our messages from time to time but we all want to see you quit. Welcome to the suck and the crazy ass fog. Use all the anger you want on here. Its better used here than on your loved ones. I will quit with you any day any time and any where.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Dougie on July 18, 2013, 08:40:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic.  I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit.  I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long.  I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love. 

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave.  You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison.  MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at  your age.  I wish I would have wised up at your age.  I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.  

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!! 

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return.  I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price.  Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again?  I have been told that this may return with time.  MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways.  I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me.  MAYBE!!!  I've read that nicotine directly affects memory.  So far
I'm not able to dispute that.  I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things.  MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.       

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison.  MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes.  I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me.  If your interested in that find my intro.  I've had three people in my life affected by cancer.  All three are and were users.  One is still alive and fighting for his life.  Throat cancer.  

I to loved the poison at one time.   Are you able to tell me why??  I can't tell you.  Not one time did it love me back!!!!!  Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
That's the anger i was looking for. Now your sounding like a quitter. Turn that hate towards the poison and your quit will grow stronger.

You stated you loved something i despise. My life doesn't suck. I'm giving you facts. You may not realize it but your quit just got stronger. Prove to me your not in the 95 percent. I will dance around a tree for a week.

I want nothing more than to see you succeed. Part of you succeeding is getting your mind right. You buying that can and stating your love for the poison was to close. Don't like me, hate me all you want. Stay quit,,,, that's my goal. I'm not hear for your friendship. If i gain another friend that would be great. I would like for it to be a quit friend. I'm quit with you bro whether you know it or not.
Drink the Kool-aide Nick.

You are not special.

Read shit on this site- see a guy with 4000 posts- find his intro and go through it I bet you might learn something that will help you, I sure did. See a guy with 2 posts read what he has to say, might learn something, might have some encouraging words for him. Either way it helps you.

You cant sit back and hope that this quit works. You have to work it every damn day.

Be quit today and make your promise tomorrow. every tomorrow.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: OneImpressiveBall on July 18, 2013, 10:51:00 PM
Quote from: Dougie
Quote from: srans
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic.  I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit.  I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long.  I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love. 

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave.  You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison.  MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at  your age.  I wish I would have wised up at your age.  I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.  

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!! 

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return.  I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price.  Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again?  I have been told that this may return with time.  MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways.  I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me.  MAYBE!!!  I've read that nicotine directly affects memory.  So far
I'm not able to dispute that.  I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things.  MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.       

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison.  MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes.  I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me.  If your interested in that find my intro.  I've had three people in my life affected by cancer.  All three are and were users.  One is still alive and fighting for his life.  Throat cancer.  

I to loved the poison at one time.   Are you able to tell me why??  I can't tell you.  Not one time did it love me back!!!!!  Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
That's the anger i was looking for. Now your sounding like a quitter. Turn that hate towards the poison and your quit will grow stronger.

You stated you loved something i despise. My life doesn't suck. I'm giving you facts. You may not realize it but your quit just got stronger. Prove to me your not in the 95 percent. I will dance around a tree for a week.

I want nothing more than to see you succeed. Part of you succeeding is getting your mind right. You buying that can and stating your love for the poison was to close. Don't like me, hate me all you want. Stay quit,,,, that's my goal. I'm not hear for your friendship. If i gain another friend that would be great. I would like for it to be a quit friend. I'm quit with you bro whether you know it or not.
Drink the Kool-aide Nick.

You are not special.

Read shit on this site- see a guy with 4000 posts- find his intro and go through it I bet you might learn something that will help you, I sure did. See a guy with 2 posts read what he has to say, might learn something, might have some encouraging words for him. Either way it helps you.

You cant sit back and hope that this quit works. You have to work it every damn day.

Be quit today and make your promise tomorrow. every tomorrow.
Nick - I don't know if you saw my post in Oct. Please do flush that can that you bought.

Is that positive enough for you?

Because it's fucking stupid for someone 5 days quit to be drinking and sitting around the house with a can of chew. You aren't proving shit to anyone. Your quit is not stronger because you are staring at a can. No games. Just quit.

It says a lot that you aren't grateful to srans for spending his valuable time sharing what he has lost to addiction. None of what it says is good. Harden the fuck up and get serious.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Nickald on July 18, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: OneImpressiveBall
Quote from: Dougie
Quote from: srans
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic.  I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit.  I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long.  I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love. 

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave.  You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison.  MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at  your age.  I wish I would have wised up at your age.  I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.  

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!! 

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return.  I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price.  Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again?  I have been told that this may return with time.  MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways.  I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me.  MAYBE!!!  I've read that nicotine directly affects memory.  So far
I'm not able to dispute that.  I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things.  MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.       

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison.  MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes.  I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me.  If your interested in that find my intro.  I've had three people in my life affected by cancer.  All three are and were users.  One is still alive and fighting for his life.  Throat cancer.  

I to loved the poison at one time.   Are you able to tell me why??  I can't tell you.  Not one time did it love me back!!!!!  Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
That's the anger i was looking for. Now your sounding like a quitter. Turn that hate towards the poison and your quit will grow stronger.

You stated you loved something i despise. My life doesn't suck. I'm giving you facts. You may not realize it but your quit just got stronger. Prove to me your not in the 95 percent. I will dance around a tree for a week.

I want nothing more than to see you succeed. Part of you succeeding is getting your mind right. You buying that can and stating your love for the poison was to close. Don't like me, hate me all you want. Stay quit,,,, that's my goal. I'm not hear for your friendship. If i gain another friend that would be great. I would like for it to be a quit friend. I'm quit with you bro whether you know it or not.
Drink the Kool-aide Nick.

You are not special.

Read shit on this site- see a guy with 4000 posts- find his intro and go through it I bet you might learn something that will help you, I sure did. See a guy with 2 posts read what he has to say, might learn something, might have some encouraging words for him. Either way it helps you.

You cant sit back and hope that this quit works. You have to work it every damn day.

Be quit today and make your promise tomorrow. every tomorrow.
Nick - I don't know if you saw my post in Oct. Please do flush that can that you bought.

Is that positive enough for you?

Because it's fucking stupid for someone 5 days quit to be drinking and sitting around the house with a can of chew. You aren't proving shit to anyone. Your quit is not stronger because you are staring at a can. No games. Just quit.

It says a lot that you aren't grateful to srans for spending his valuable time sharing what he has lost to addiction. None of what it says is good. Harden the fuck up and get serious.
Turn your anger aginst your addition. Learn to love yourself.
NICK
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Diesel2112 on July 18, 2013, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic.  I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit.  I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long.  I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love. 

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave.  You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison.  MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at  your age.  I wish I would have wised up at your age.  I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars. 

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!! 

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return.  I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price.  Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again?  I have been told that this may return with time.  MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways.  I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me.  MAYBE!!!  I've read that nicotine directly affects memory.  So far
I'm not able to dispute that.  I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things.  MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.       

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison.  MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes.  I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me.  If your interested in that find my intro.  I've had three people in my life affected by cancer.  All three are and were users.  One is still alive and fighting for his life.  Throat cancer. 

I to loved the poison at one time.  Are you able to tell me why??  I can't tell you.  Not one time did it love me back!!!!!  Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
First off this is not YOUR house bro. Its a house for people serious about quitting dip. It's OUR house and you're welcome in it and are a part of it now. Nobody in this house loves dip. We all THOUGHT we did at one point, but quitting something you love is damn near impossible especially since you are addicted and dependent on it.

YOU came to US looking for support and you will and already have gotten it. You're just to wrapped up in getting your feelings hurt to see it.

Support comes in many different forms. We don't coddle or suckle nut sacks around here. We call a spade a spade. Not sure why you have to come in here guns a blazing telling people to fuck off and such. That doesn't cut it around here. People are challenging you and trying to get your feathers ruffled a bit...again, another form of support.

If you wanna go some rounds dropping f bombs and calling people who are trying to support you assholes, I'll throw with you, I'm actually pretty good at it. However, I would rather not. Id rather just focus on your quit.

We've seen your intro before, their are many red flags in it. Aside from deterring a total babe and some tooth problems, is there any other reasons you want to quit? Those other reasons are good jumping off points but you will need to dig deeper to truly make this quit work.

Why did you buy a can and I'm anxiously waiting for your reasons for loving dip. Hopefully you will be off you iphone soon so we can get a good synopsis of why you love finger banging that can of posion.

Hopefully you don't disappear. You've been quit 5 days which means you quit on Sunday. The weekend is coming up, which for young guns like yourself usually means some partying /drinking which has killed many a quit before it got off the ground.

You seem to have some fire in you, so Im betting you'll be back with your explanation of why you love dip. (Put your big boy pants on when you do).
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: worktowin on July 19, 2013, 04:52:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic.  I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit.  I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long.  I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love. 

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave.  You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison.  MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at  your age.  I wish I would have wised up at your age.  I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.  

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!! 

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return.  I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price.  Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again?  I have been told that this may return with time.  MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways.  I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me.  MAYBE!!!  I've read that nicotine directly affects memory.  So far
I'm not able to dispute that.  I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things.  MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.       

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison.  MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes.  I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me.  If your interested in that find my intro.  I've had three people in my life affected by cancer.  All three are and were users.  One is still alive and fighting for his life.  Throat cancer.  

I to loved the poison at one time.   Are you able to tell me why??  I can't tell you.  Not one time did it love me back!!!!!  Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
First off this is not YOUR house bro. Its a house for people serious about quitting dip. It's OUR house and you're welcome in it and are a part of it now. Nobody in this house loves dip. We all THOUGHT we did at one point, but quitting something you love is damn near impossible especially since you are addicted and dependent on it.

YOU came to US looking for support and you will and already have gotten it. You're just to wrapped up in getting your feelings hurt to see it.

Support comes in many different forms. We don't coddle or suckle nut sacks around here. We call a spade a spade. Not sure why you have to come in here guns a blazing telling people to fuck off and such. That doesn't cut it around here. People are challenging you and trying to get your feathers ruffled a bit...again, another form of support.

If you wanna go some rounds dropping f bombs and calling people who are trying to support you assholes, I'll throw with you, I'm actually pretty good at it. However, I would rather not. Id rather just focus on your quit.

We've seen your intro before, their are many red flags in it. Aside from deterring a total babe and some tooth problems, is there any other reasons you want to quit? Those other reasons are good jumping off points but you will need to dig deeper to truly make this quit work.

Why did you buy a can and I'm anxiously waiting for your reasons for loving dip. Hopefully you will be off you iphone soon so we can get a good synopsis of why you love finger banging that can of posion.

Hopefully you don't disappear. You've been quit 5 days which means you quit on Sunday. The weekend is coming up, which for young guns like yourself usually means some partying /drinking which has killed many a quit before it got off the ground.

You seem to have some fire in you, so Im betting you'll be back with your explanation of why you love dip. (Put your big boy pants on when you do).
Wow dude. I'm really not sure where to start.

First, looking at your intro post, you've got some if the most dedicated quitters on this site reaching out to you. I'm not sure if you have asked for their contact and offered yours, but if not, you should. You know how the president has the "red phone?" Well, dude, when it comes to beating the addiction of nicotine, the people that have taken time out of their life to challenge you and get the wheels turning are extending the red phone to you.

Next, it looks like Srans hit a nerve. This man knows how to quit. He is on this site a lot and helps a lot if us. Including me. And including a lot of others. And from what I've read about him, the only thing in his life that consistently sucks... Is what an addiction to a poisonous cancer causing plant brings to his otherwise fine life.

A bit about me... I'm 42 now and spent closer to 40k on my addiction. And 95% of it was hidden from my hot wife and family/friends. Because I was ashamed and thought that successful business guys don't chew. Not a can a day anyway. Maybe when they hunt or go to games, but not for hours a day. Reading into this, I guess I would have to say that my life sucked. Pretty pathetic really. Bud, here is your chance to turn the tables so that you aren't looking back 17 years later...

My intro read something similar to your. I recall saying something like "time to say goodbye to my old friend - we shared a lot of good times." Man let me tell you - I thought id launched ww3. The responses I got were similar to yours... Welcome, but you better change your mindset because... I was like wtf? 200+ days later, I send out my thanks to those fine men and women. And I hope that 200 days from now you will be doing the same for Srans.

Congratulations on your decision to join. It is a great first step. If I can help in any way, let me know. Sorry for the typos, I'm typing this on my iPhone. Not bad for a middle aged addict at 330 am, right... Legal eagle?
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Jlud007 on July 19, 2013, 07:35:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: srans
First off welcome nicnic.  I'm glad to see you've stopped by for a visit.  I say visit because I don't think you will be with us long.  I've seen to many your age in the short time I've been here go back to the're true love. 

I also seen your roll post that stated you bought a can yesterday, but didn't cave.  You stated in your intro that your still in love with the poison.  MAYBE at your young age you'll see the truth before it's to late, but I think the number is 5 percent that successfully quit at  your age.  I wish I would have wised up at your age.  I waited over 25 years and spent over 20,000 dollars.  

I'm 154 days quit and don't know how much longer it will be before I'm back to whatever is left of ME!! 

I'm fearful that a lot of ME will not return.  I've been with the poison for to long not to pay a price.  Will I ever have a day where I feel like a normal person again?  I have been told that this may return with time.  MAYBE!!!

The poison has also damaged me mentally in many ways.  I wonder sometimes if my forgetful nature is because I'm getting older or if the poison has destroyed that very part of me.  MAYBE!!!  I've read that nicotine directly affects memory.  So far
I'm not able to dispute that.  I also am not able to comprehend a lot of things.  MAYBE that will return to normal.

I have a lot of questions that will not be answered without more time being quit.       

I don't know what else I've lost to the poison.  MAYBE I've escaped the cancer that it causes.  I won't know that for 14 or so more years.

I have not mentioned the people the cancer has taken from me.  If your interested in that find my intro.  I've had three people in my life affected by cancer.  All three are and were users.  One is still alive and fighting for his life.  Throat cancer.  

I to loved the poison at one time.   Are you able to tell me why??  I can't tell you.  Not one time did it love me back!!!!!  Quit with you.
Sorry your life sucks, bro.
I'll explain what I mean by I love dipping later when I'm not on my iPhone. In the meantime, if you guys are gonna be assholes, please fuck off kindly. This is my topic about my quit, not your opportunity to show some young buck how big of a dumb douchebag he is. I don't come in your house and shit on your kitchen table. Kicking the habit is hard enough as it is without the negativity. Some encouragement might actually help.

I was under the impression that this forum would help, but I may have it backwards.

Thanks California Slim, I agree. I am anxious for the day when I realize I don't love the stuff and it was just a trick played by addiction.
First off this is not YOUR house bro. Its a house for people serious about quitting dip. It's OUR house and you're welcome in it and are a part of it now. Nobody in this house loves dip. We all THOUGHT we did at one point, but quitting something you love is damn near impossible especially since you are addicted and dependent on it.

YOU came to US looking for support and you will and already have gotten it. You're just to wrapped up in getting your feelings hurt to see it.

Support comes in many different forms. We don't coddle or suckle nut sacks around here. We call a spade a spade. Not sure why you have to come in here guns a blazing telling people to fuck off and such. That doesn't cut it around here. People are challenging you and trying to get your feathers ruffled a bit...again, another form of support.

If you wanna go some rounds dropping f bombs and calling people who are trying to support you assholes, I'll throw with you, I'm actually pretty good at it. However, I would rather not. Id rather just focus on your quit.

We've seen your intro before, their are many red flags in it. Aside from deterring a total babe and some tooth problems, is there any other reasons you want to quit? Those other reasons are good jumping off points but you will need to dig deeper to truly make this quit work.

Why did you buy a can and I'm anxiously waiting for your reasons for loving dip. Hopefully you will be off you iphone soon so we can get a good synopsis of why you love finger banging that can of posion.

Hopefully you don't disappear. You've been quit 5 days which means you quit on Sunday. The weekend is coming up, which for young guns like yourself usually means some partying /drinking which has killed many a quit before it got off the ground.

You seem to have some fire in you, so Im betting you'll be back with your explanation of why you love dip. (Put your big boy pants on when you do).
Wow dude. I'm really not sure where to start.

First, looking at your intro post, you've got some if the most dedicated quitters on this site reaching out to you. I'm not sure if you have asked for their contact and offered yours, but if not, you should. You know how the president has the "red phone?" Well, dude, when it comes to beating the addiction of nicotine, the people that have taken time out of their life to challenge you and get the wheels turning are extending the red phone to you.

Next, it looks like Srans hit a nerve. This man knows how to quit. He is on this site a lot and helps a lot if us. Including me. And including a lot of others. And from what I've read about him, the only thing in his life that consistently sucks... Is what an addiction to a poisonous cancer causing plant brings to his otherwise fine life.

A bit about me... I'm 42 now and spent closer to 40k on my addiction. And 95% of it was hidden from my hot wife and family/friends. Because I was ashamed and thought that successful business guys don't chew. Not a can a day anyway. Maybe when they hunt or go to games, but not for hours a day. Reading into this, I guess I would have to say that my life sucked. Pretty pathetic really. Bud, here is your chance to turn the tables so that you aren't looking back 17 years later...

My intro read something similar to your. I recall saying something like "time to say goodbye to my old friend - we shared a lot of good times." Man let me tell you - I thought id launched ww3. The responses I got were similar to yours... Welcome, but you better change your mindset because... I was like wtf? 200+ days later, I send out my thanks to those fine men and women. And I hope that 200 days from now you will be doing the same for Srans.

Congratulations on your decision to join. It is a great first step. If I can help in any way, let me know. Sorry for the typos, I'm typing this on my iPhone. Not bad for a middle aged addict at 330 am, right... Legal eagle?
I'm only on Day 4, but I can say Nick...you should listen to these fellas posting in your thread. They are some bad ass quitters and if you want to quit, really want to quit you'll eventually discover that by calling you out on excuses and addict speak is the greatest form of encouragement they can offer.

I'll quit with you today brother, but you gotta give in to it and drink the KTC Kool-Aid!
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Diesel2112 on July 19, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
Bro. You off your iPhone yet? I am waiting to hear why you LOVE dip still. Come on man, I don't have all day. I'm on pins and needles here.

In all seriousity, where did you go? Don't let us be right about you bro.

Man up and tell me to fuck off or something.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Diesel2112 on July 19, 2013, 11:06:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Bro. You off your iPhone yet? I am waiting to hear why you LOVE dip still. Come on man, I don't have all day. I'm on pins and needles here.

In all seriousity, where did you go? Don't let us be right about you bro.

Man up and tell me to fuck off or something.
I see you posted role today. Well done sir. I LOVE IT!!!!!
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on July 19, 2013, 12:38:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Diesel2112
Bro.  You off your iPhone yet?  I am waiting to hear why you LOVE dip still.  Come on man, I don't have all day.  I'm on pins and needles here.

In all seriousity, where did you go?  Don't let us be right about you bro.

Man up and tell me to fuck off or something.
I see you posted role today. Well done sir. I LOVE IT!!!!!
I'm glad to see you posted nick. I might have to Dance around that tree a couple times today.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: nicknick on July 19, 2013, 01:04:00 PM
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: jayd41 on July 19, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
One thing to know is this Nick...when it comes to dipping and your relationship with it, you are no different then the rest of us. Myself, i am from a farming community in Indiana. Almost all of my buddies from back in the day dipped or smoked or did both...i smoke on and off but i always dipped and like you i thought i loved it...some days i think i still do but not as much as i did 73 days ago.

One thing that you have got to get past is that you are no more or less trustworthy or connected to your roots by dipping. The folks i grew up with are trustworthy because their word still means something...not by what the put in their lip. If people think you are uppity because you don't chew, then maybe you are an uppity person to begin with...i don't know you so i have know idea if thats the case or not but i would bet not. The ol boys from the holler as you put it, are mostly good people, again, it has nothing to do with what is in their lip but what is in their heart.

If you are a good ol boy from the holler, then like me, you know the measure of a man and the soul of a man is his word and his actions. If you want to truly honor your upbringing, then honor your word and lead by example.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: jayd41 on July 19, 2013, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: jayd41
One thing to know is this Nick...when it comes to dipping and your relationship with it, you are no different then the rest of us. Myself, i am from a farming community in Indiana. Almost all of my buddies from back in the day dipped or smoked or did both...i smoke on and off but i always dipped and like you i thought i loved it...some days i think i still do but not as much as i did 73 days ago.

One thing that you have got to get past is that you are no more or less trustworthy or connected to your roots by dipping. The folks i grew up with are trustworthy because their word still means something...not by what the put in their lip. If people think you are uppity because you don't chew, then maybe you are an uppity person to begin with...i don't know you so i have know idea if thats the case or not but i would bet not. The ol boys from the holler as you put it, are mostly good people, again, it has nothing to do with what is in their lip but what is in their heart.

If you are a good ol boy from the holler, then like me, you know the measure of a man and the soul of a man is his word and his actions. If you want to truly honor your upbringing, then honor your word and lead by example.
i meant to say smoked*...i do not do that anymore either....before i get blasted, sorry for the typo ya'll
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: nicknick on July 19, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: jayd41
One thing to know is this Nick...when it comes to dipping and your relationship with it, you are no different then the rest of us. Myself, i am from a farming community in Indiana. Almost all of my buddies from back in the day dipped or smoked or did both...i smoke on and off but i always dipped and like you i thought i loved it...some days i think i still do but not as much as i did 73 days ago.

One thing that you have got to get past is that you are no more or less trustworthy or connected to your roots by dipping. The folks i grew up with are trustworthy because their word still means something...not by what the put in their lip. If people think you are uppity because you don't chew, then maybe you are an uppity person to begin with...i don't know you so i have know idea if thats the case or not but i would bet not. The ol boys from the holler as you put it, are mostly good people, again, it has nothing to do with what is in their lip but what is in their heart.

If you are a good ol boy from the holler, then like me, you know the measure of a man and the soul of a man is his word and his actions. If you want to truly honor your upbringing, then honor your word and lead by example.
Thank you, Jay. That really helps a lot. You have no idea.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on July 19, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: nicknick
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Bro, you make it sound like your the only one in the world that came out of the womb with a lipper in. Golly gee dude, i really feel for you, almost got a tear.

Now truth time. You aren't the only one that has grown up around the poison. I might end up dying from second hand smoke before its over.

Screw what your family and friends are doing. What a pitiful culture that makes you believe that sticking a mouth full of poison in you mouth is the only way you can be a valued member.

Sounds like its time to join a new culture. One that's not bound, tied and gagged by a poison that only takes. A poison that strips you of : money, integrity and dignity. One day will possibly take your tounge, jaw and possibly life.

Wake up bro or you won't make it through the weekend.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on July 19, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: nicknick
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Bro, you make it sound like your the only one in the world that came out of the womb with a lipper in. Golly gee dude, i really feel for you, almost got a tear.

Now truth time. You aren't the only one that has grown up around the poison. I might end up dying from second hand smoke before its over.

Screw what your family and friends are doing. What a pitiful culture that makes you believe that sticking a mouth full of poison in you mouth is the only way you can be a valued member.

Sounds like its time to join a new culture. One that's not bound, tied and gagged by a poison that only takes. A poison that strips you of : money, integrity and dignity. One day will possibly take your tounge, jaw and possibly life.

Wake up bro or you won't make it through the weekend.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Diesel2112 on July 19, 2013, 02:14:00 PM
Time to grow some new roots.

Right here.

If a posionous drug formed a tight group of addicts, perhaps its time for you to grow up and move on, like a down trotten youth getting out of the ghetto.

Sounds to me you love the bond more than the drug itself. Never forget where you come from, just look back at it with a lip full of life...not death.

You're an addict. You have to quit for you and you only. Dont let outside peer pressure get in the way of something you want.

How bad do you want it? Guess we are all about to find out...

'Popcorn'
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on July 19, 2013, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Time to grow some new roots.

Right here. 

If a posionous drug formed a tight group of addicts, perhaps its time for you to grow up and move on, like a down trotten youth getting out of the ghetto. 

Sounds to me you love the bond more than the drug itself.  Never forget where you come from, just look back at it with a lip full of life...not death.

You're an addict.  You have to quit for you and you only.  Dont let outside peer pressure get in the way of something you want.

How bad do you want it?  Guess we are all about to find out...

'Popcorn'
Now that I'm not mowing the lawn i would like to throw a thought your way. For years back in school i was a follower. I drank because friends drunk. Tried pot. Yes i inhaled. Tried smoking which led to dipping and an addict was born. Wish i was a leader back then. Wish i would have been smart enough to say no. Took me over 25 years to finally say enough.

Wish i would of had a 23 year old friend back then that was an addict the same as me but QUIT. Wish he would have told me about ktc. Told me i could quit and take my life back. Maybe even a big brother or other family member.

You see where I'm going with this. Man up and be a leader instead of a follower. You can make a difference in many lives. Not now, but in time you will have the tools. Friend you will be respected not rejected. I just can't believe that. If we are talking about family and friends they will be happy for you. Might even want to join you. Nic, me and diesel will be right here, we aren't going anywhere. I an hopeful you strick around. I guess the weekend will be the test.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: traumagnet on July 19, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Diesel2112
Time to grow some new roots.

Right here. 

If a posionous drug formed a tight group of addicts, perhaps its time for you to grow up and move on, like a down trotten youth getting out of the ghetto. 

Sounds to me you love the bond more than the drug itself.  Never forget where you come from, just look back at it with a lip full of life...not death.

You're an addict.  You have to quit for you and you only.  Dont let outside peer pressure get in the way of something you want.

How bad do you want it?  Guess we are all about to find out...

'Popcorn'
Now that I'm not mowing the lawn i would like to throw a thought your way. For years back in school i was a follower. I drank because friends drunk. Tried pot. Yes i inhaled. Tried smoking which led to dipping and an addict was born. Wish i was a leader back then. Wish i would have been smart enough to say no. Took me over 25 years to finally say enough.

Wish i would of had a 23 year old friend back then that was an addict the same as me but QUIT. Wish he would have told me about ktc. Told me i could quit and take my life back. Maybe even a big brother or other family member.

You see where I'm going with this. Man up and be a leader instead of a follower. You can make a difference in many lives. Not now, but in time you will have the tools. Friend you will be respected not rejected. I just can't believe that. If we are talking about family and friends they will be happy for you. Might even want to join you. Nic, me and diesel will be right here, we aren't going anywhere. I an hopeful you strick around. I guess the weekend will be the test.
Interesting thread thus far, I dont know how it slipped by...but I see my bros SRANS, Diesel and the family are all over you. Well I can tell you this SRANS found me when I was in my fog got my digits and called me out of the blue. I will never forget what he told me but thats between me and him...the point is you have bad ass quitters reaching out to you trying to steer you away from the pitfalls that are present in your writings. We all speak addict quite well here we can smell it.

Sounds to me what weakens you is alcohol; then you are three fingers up to the knuckles in the bitch. In your plan that should be something you remove so she cant whisper in your ear.

Time will tell
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: worktowin on July 19, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: nicknick
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Nicotine cares not whether you are rich or poor. Whether you live on the East Coast, West Coast, or on a raft in the middle of the Pacific. It doesn't care whether you have a Harvard MBA, or spent your life locked in the attic coloring in coloring books.

I think it might help to clear up a few perceptions. And don't feel bad when I do this - as I had some of the same perceptions when I joined KTC...

1. (Perceived) Rednecks are the only people that chew (False)
2. White collar dudes don't chew (false)
3. Girls don't chew (false)
4. Educated people don't chew (false)
5. People with disposable income don't chew (false)

Once you talk to some of the people on this site - I think you'll be surprised. There are commercial bankers, cardiac surgeons, executives, airline pilots. Black, white, hispanic. California, Florida, New York. Doctorate, MBA, junior high educated. And every one of them knows or has friends that use tobacco. If they can do it, you can do it.

Hiding in the perceptions results in the well-documented Ninja usage. In other words.... if I'm a white collar professional, and I think white collar professionals don't chew - but I do chew, then how can I adapt. Easy - I hide and chew. There are a lot of Ninja addicts who have quit. Me for example.

I guess to sum this up, here is what your words said to me:

--I was poor white trash
--Poor white trash uses nicotine
--I love my friends and family, but they are all poor white trash that use nicotine
--The only bond I have with my poor white trash friends and family is my nicotine use
--I'm gonna be rich!
--Rich people don't use nicotine.
--uh, oh

I sure hope I'm wrong, because I have to be honest with you, this has all the looks of a soon-to-be Ninja. Bud, please look deep within - and if you wanna attack - go for it. Because looking back at my life (and I'll speak for several others that have reached out for you) being a Ninja is no way to live.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: OneImpressiveBall on July 19, 2013, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: nicknick
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Nicotine cares not whether you are rich or poor. Whether you live on the East Coast, West Coast, or on a raft in the middle of the Pacific. It doesn't care whether you have a Harvard MBA, or spent your life locked in the attic coloring in coloring books.

I think it might help to clear up a few perceptions. And don't feel bad when I do this - as I had some of the same perceptions when I joined KTC...

1. (Perceived) Rednecks are the only people that chew (False)
2. White collar dudes don't chew (false)
3. Girls don't chew (false)
4. Educated people don't chew (false)
5. People with disposable income don't chew (false)

Once you talk to some of the people on this site - I think you'll be surprised. There are commercial bankers, cardiac surgeons, executives, airline pilots. Black, white, hispanic. California, Florida, New York. Doctorate, MBA, junior high educated. And every one of them knows or has friends that use tobacco. If they can do it, you can do it.

Hiding in the perceptions results in the well-documented Ninja usage. In other words.... if I'm a white collar professional, and I think white collar professionals don't chew - but I do chew, then how can I adapt. Easy - I hide and chew. There are a lot of Ninja addicts who have quit. Me for example.

I guess to sum this up, here is what your words said to me:

--I was poor white trash
--Poor white trash uses nicotine
--I love my friends and family, but they are all poor white trash that use nicotine
--The only bond I have with my poor white trash friends and family is my nicotine use
--I'm gonna be rich!
--Rich people don't use nicotine.
--uh, oh

I sure hope I'm wrong, because I have to be honest with you, this has all the looks of a soon-to-be Ninja. Bud, please look deep within - and if you wanna attack - go for it. Because looking back at my life (and I'll speak for several others that have reached out for you) being a Ninja is no way to live.
I was having a very hard time figuring out how to articulate my thoughts, but worktowin just nailed it. I'd only add that you only insult your culture, Nick, by implying that it consists solely of slavery to the can.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Nickald on July 20, 2013, 09:06:00 PM
Quote from: OneImpressiveBall
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: nicknick
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Nicotine cares not whether you are rich or poor. Whether you live on the East Coast, West Coast, or on a raft in the middle of the Pacific. It doesn't care whether you have a Harvard MBA, or spent your life locked in the attic coloring in coloring books.

I think it might help to clear up a few perceptions. And don't feel bad when I do this - as I had some of the same perceptions when I joined KTC...

1. (Perceived) Rednecks are the only people that chew (False)
2. White collar dudes don't chew (false)
3. Girls don't chew (false)
4. Educated people don't chew (false)
5. People with disposable income don't chew (false)

Once you talk to some of the people on this site - I think you'll be surprised. There are commercial bankers, cardiac surgeons, executives, airline pilots. Black, white, hispanic. California, Florida, New York. Doctorate, MBA, junior high educated. And every one of them knows or has friends that use tobacco. If they can do it, you can do it.

Hiding in the perceptions results in the well-documented Ninja usage. In other words.... if I'm a white collar professional, and I think white collar professionals don't chew - but I do chew, then how can I adapt. Easy - I hide and chew. There are a lot of Ninja addicts who have quit. Me for example.

I guess to sum this up, here is what your words said to me:

--I was poor white trash
--Poor white trash uses nicotine
--I love my friends and family, but they are all poor white trash that use nicotine
--The only bond I have with my poor white trash friends and family is my nicotine use
--I'm gonna be rich!
--Rich people don't use nicotine.
--uh, oh

I sure hope I'm wrong, because I have to be honest with you, this has all the looks of a soon-to-be Ninja. Bud, please look deep within - and if you wanna attack - go for it. Because looking back at my life (and I'll speak for several others that have reached out for you) being a Ninja is no way to live.
I was having a very hard time figuring out how to articulate my thoughts, but worktowin just nailed it. I'd only add that you only insult your culture, Nick, by implying that it consists solely of slavery to the can.
Worktowin hit it right. Your self worth and values are kind of messed up nick. Tobacco is not the only thing that binds you to home. Look around and see all that surrounds you.
NICK
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: nicknick on July 22, 2013, 08:51:00 AM
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: OneImpressiveBall
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: nicknick
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Nicotine cares not whether you are rich or poor. Whether you live on the East Coast, West Coast, or on a raft in the middle of the Pacific. It doesn't care whether you have a Harvard MBA, or spent your life locked in the attic coloring in coloring books.

I think it might help to clear up a few perceptions. And don't feel bad when I do this - as I had some of the same perceptions when I joined KTC...

1. (Perceived) Rednecks are the only people that chew (False)
2. White collar dudes don't chew (false)
3. Girls don't chew (false)
4. Educated people don't chew (false)
5. People with disposable income don't chew (false)

Once you talk to some of the people on this site - I think you'll be surprised. There are commercial bankers, cardiac surgeons, executives, airline pilots. Black, white, hispanic. California, Florida, New York. Doctorate, MBA, junior high educated. And every one of them knows or has friends that use tobacco. If they can do it, you can do it.

Hiding in the perceptions results in the well-documented Ninja usage. In other words.... if I'm a white collar professional, and I think white collar professionals don't chew - but I do chew, then how can I adapt. Easy - I hide and chew. There are a lot of Ninja addicts who have quit. Me for example.

I guess to sum this up, here is what your words said to me:

--I was poor white trash
--Poor white trash uses nicotine
--I love my friends and family, but they are all poor white trash that use nicotine
--The only bond I have with my poor white trash friends and family is my nicotine use
--I'm gonna be rich!
--Rich people don't use nicotine.
--uh, oh

I sure hope I'm wrong, because I have to be honest with you, this has all the looks of a soon-to-be Ninja. Bud, please look deep within - and if you wanna attack - go for it. Because looking back at my life (and I'll speak for several others that have reached out for you) being a Ninja is no way to live.
I was having a very hard time figuring out how to articulate my thoughts, but worktowin just nailed it. I'd only add that you only insult your culture, Nick, by implying that it consists solely of slavery to the can.
Worktowin hit it right. Your self worth and values are kind of messed up nick. Tobacco is not the only thing that binds you to home. Look around and see all that surrounds you.
NICK
You guys are exactly right. I'm now the only guy at my work who doesn't dip, and nobody treated me any different. I am connected to those I care about through more than some stupid drug called nicotine.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: worktowin on July 22, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: OneImpressiveBall
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: nicknick
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Nicotine cares not whether you are rich or poor. Whether you live on the East Coast, West Coast, or on a raft in the middle of the Pacific. It doesn't care whether you have a Harvard MBA, or spent your life locked in the attic coloring in coloring books.

I think it might help to clear up a few perceptions. And don't feel bad when I do this - as I had some of the same perceptions when I joined KTC...

1. (Perceived) Rednecks are the only people that chew (False)
2. White collar dudes don't chew (false)
3. Girls don't chew (false)
4. Educated people don't chew (false)
5. People with disposable income don't chew (false)

Once you talk to some of the people on this site - I think you'll be surprised. There are commercial bankers, cardiac surgeons, executives, airline pilots. Black, white, hispanic. California, Florida, New York. Doctorate, MBA, junior high educated. And every one of them knows or has friends that use tobacco. If they can do it, you can do it.

Hiding in the perceptions results in the well-documented Ninja usage. In other words.... if I'm a white collar professional, and I think white collar professionals don't chew - but I do chew, then how can I adapt. Easy - I hide and chew. There are a lot of Ninja addicts who have quit. Me for example.

I guess to sum this up, here is what your words said to me:

--I was poor white trash
--Poor white trash uses nicotine
--I love my friends and family, but they are all poor white trash that use nicotine
--The only bond I have with my poor white trash friends and family is my nicotine use
--I'm gonna be rich!
--Rich people don't use nicotine.
--uh, oh

I sure hope I'm wrong, because I have to be honest with you, this has all the looks of a soon-to-be Ninja. Bud, please look deep within - and if you wanna attack - go for it. Because looking back at my life (and I'll speak for several others that have reached out for you) being a Ninja is no way to live.
I was having a very hard time figuring out how to articulate my thoughts, but worktowin just nailed it. I'd only add that you only insult your culture, Nick, by implying that it consists solely of slavery to the can.
Worktowin hit it right. Your self worth and values are kind of messed up nick. Tobacco is not the only thing that binds you to home. Look around and see all that surrounds you.
NICK
You guys are exactly right. I'm now the only guy at my work who doesn't dip, and nobody treated me any different. I am connected to those I care about through more than some stupid drug called nicotine.
This post made my day. For the record, I'm from the Ozarks originally. So I can relate to the meaning of your words more than some of the fine city folk on here. And I admire your drive to move to a different place in your life. If there is anything I can do to help, just let me know.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on July 22, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: nicknick
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: OneImpressiveBall
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: nicknick
WHY I LOVE DIPPING

Twenty-three years ago, I was born a dumb, poor redneck in Eastern Kentucky which is a part of the Appalachians. Here, the people are drug-ridden, impoverished hillbillies - including me. I have always been around tobacco, always will be. My friends and I always dipped. Every male member of my family dips. I have even had teachers give me dip during school. Tobacco use is a part of the culture here - for better or worse, or more accurately, for worse.

Through education, I have furthered my career potential. I moved out of Appalachia for undergrad. I will move even further away for grad school. But I am still an Appalachian, through and through. I am so proud of my poor, redneck roots. While I am here, I love dipping, because it is part of the culture. It takes me back to my youth.

One day very soon, I am going to be wealthier and more established than many of my fellow Appalachians. Dipping connects us to each other in a weird sort of way. Some may think I am some hot shot lawyer with his nose in the air. Then, those same people would see me with a dip in, and realize I am still just Nick, the good ole boy from the holler. A good ole boy from the holler is trustworthy.

When I quit dipping, especially when I am far from home, it puts me into some sort of identity crisis.

This may seem stupid or hard to relate to for a lot of you, but that's okay. This is something I deal with during my quit. Please ream me, and pick apart this way of thinking. Because I want it destroyed. I want to know another way to deal with this thought.

I'm camping this weekend on the lake, and I work at the marina on weekends where I get my dip for free. So I can honestly say, my greatest temptation will be this weekend. When I post roll Monday, you all can go ahead and know the hardest part is over.
Nicotine cares not whether you are rich or poor. Whether you live on the East Coast, West Coast, or on a raft in the middle of the Pacific. It doesn't care whether you have a Harvard MBA, or spent your life locked in the attic coloring in coloring books.

I think it might help to clear up a few perceptions. And don't feel bad when I do this - as I had some of the same perceptions when I joined KTC...

1. (Perceived) Rednecks are the only people that chew (False)
2. White collar dudes don't chew (false)
3. Girls don't chew (false)
4. Educated people don't chew (false)
5. People with disposable income don't chew (false)

Once you talk to some of the people on this site - I think you'll be surprised. There are commercial bankers, cardiac surgeons, executives, airline pilots. Black, white, hispanic. California, Florida, New York. Doctorate, MBA, junior high educated. And every one of them knows or has friends that use tobacco. If they can do it, you can do it.

Hiding in the perceptions results in the well-documented Ninja usage. In other words.... if I'm a white collar professional, and I think white collar professionals don't chew - but I do chew, then how can I adapt. Easy - I hide and chew. There are a lot of Ninja addicts who have quit. Me for example.

I guess to sum this up, here is what your words said to me:

--I was poor white trash
--Poor white trash uses nicotine
--I love my friends and family, but they are all poor white trash that use nicotine
--The only bond I have with my poor white trash friends and family is my nicotine use
--I'm gonna be rich!
--Rich people don't use nicotine.
--uh, oh

I sure hope I'm wrong, because I have to be honest with you, this has all the looks of a soon-to-be Ninja. Bud, please look deep within - and if you wanna attack - go for it. Because looking back at my life (and I'll speak for several others that have reached out for you) being a Ninja is no way to live.
I was having a very hard time figuring out how to articulate my thoughts, but worktowin just nailed it. I'd only add that you only insult your culture, Nick, by implying that it consists solely of slavery to the can.
Worktowin hit it right. Your self worth and values are kind of messed up nick. Tobacco is not the only thing that binds you to home. Look around and see all that surrounds you.
NICK
You guys are exactly right. I'm now the only guy at my work who doesn't dip, and nobody treated me any different. I am connected to those I care about through more than some stupid drug called nicotine.
This post made my day. For the record, I'm from the Ozarks originally. So I can relate to the meaning of your words more than some of the fine city folk on here. And I admire your drive to move to a different place in your life. If there is anything I can do to help, just let me know.
I'm dancing around my tree today. As more and more time passes you will uncover lie after lie. Stay the course nic, you won't be sorry.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: worktowin on August 13, 2013, 03:42:00 AM
Nick squared - how's it going? Lets have an update in the quit! We are all pulling for you here.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: Pinched on August 13, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
Nick Nick, where ya been man? Us Ducks are missing one of our own.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on August 13, 2013, 07:07:00 PM
Quote from: Pinched
Nick Nick, where ya been man? Us Ducks are missing one of our own.
Looks like he checked in this morning and read this post this morning,, no roll post.
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: FIGHTIN-IGNORANCE on August 13, 2013, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Pinched
Nick Nick, where ya been man?  Us Ducks are missing one of our own.
Looks like he checked in this morning and read this post this morning,, no roll post.
Crap.. This is how it starts. I smell a planned cave!
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: worktowin on August 14, 2013, 05:20:00 AM
Quote from: FIGHTIN-IGNORANCE
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Pinched
Nick Nick, where ya been man?  Us Ducks are missing one of our own.
Looks like he checked in this morning and read this post this morning,, no roll post.
Crap.. This is how it starts. I smell a planned cave!
Damn shame. A lot of us reached out to nick squared. But he didn't reach back. Nic bitch reached around and that's all it took....
Title: Re: On Day 5
Post by: srans on August 14, 2013, 06:34:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: FIGHTIN-IGNORANCE
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Pinched
Nick Nick, where ya been man?  Us Ducks are missing one of our own.
Looks like he checked in this morning and read this post this morning,, no roll post.
Crap.. This is how it starts. I smell a planned cave!
Damn shame. A lot of us reached out to nick squared. But he didn't reach back. Nic bitch reached around and that's all it took....
I sent him my digits and he never gave his in return. I figured he was leaving a door open so he could slip back to slavery. Hope I'm wrong, but like i stated earlier in his intro,, only few his age make it.