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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Perseverance B. on December 19, 2013, 08:29:00 AM
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Hello all - I can't believe I found this site, which was a huge motivation to get me to understand the importance of quitting chew. Not tomorrow, not next week, today!
I started dipping November of 1993. I have been a slave of nicotine for 20 years. It's time to take my life back, and I think this forum is a great way to better ensure success.
I'm tired of staying up late at night to get that last dip in, only to wake up tired and lacking energy. I'm done with working a white collar office job, walking around the halls and sitting at my desk with an upper in, hoping nobody will notice. I'm giving back to my wife, who I promised to I would quit before we got married...that was 12 years ago. And most importantly, I'm giving back to myself - taking control of my actions, not letting dip get in the way of my work, my activities and my family.
I plan on doing roll call each morning as I get into work, and I will pledge that I will do everything I can to uphold my promise to each of you. I thank everyone in advance for their support, and look forward to being an active member of this board.
Brad
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Quitting is really simple.
Read everything on here, post roll call each morning and don't dip. Wow....that sounds so easy, doesn't it?
If you read through the other intro's you may see some of my same words on them but they always hold true so I will just repeat them...
You are in for one nasty fight but you have the tools here to make it.
Go load yourself up with gum, mints, fake chew, seeds and beef jerky. Also get some member phone numbers right now, they will help you through the rough parts.
Next, exercise to exhaustion every single day and drink so much water that you feel like you may bust. Both of these will help.
Make sure your wife reads about what you are going through. 99% chance that you are going to be a short fussed dick for the next 3-4 weeks. Try not to take it out on her and the kids. Get on here and take it out on us, we will be fine.
I quit with you.
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Get on here post roll get some phone numbers and make some friends
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check your inbox...my guess is you already have 7 messages from dudes that want to help you save your life.
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Congrats on quitting! This is the place to stay quit. Just read and learn and stick with the program. Post roll first thing every day, and then honor your promise. Get that nicotine poison out of your system and keep it out. One day at a time. I quit with you today.
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Congrats on a great choice, Brad! "One Day At A Time" is your new motto. That is all that matters.
You can't change the past...what's done is done. So forget it. Don't worry about next tomorrow, next week or next year. We'll deal with them when they get here. All you need to do is focus on stayin quit today.
You've gotten great advice so far. Just follow it. Click on the Welcome Center link above and learn how and why we post roll. Then do it. Oh, and read everything else on this website...2 or 3 times a day should do it.
Click around in the Quit Groups...not just your own, but a bunch of them. All of those folks have been, or are, where you are right now. And they are all living free, one day at a time.
Welcome, brother!!!
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Wow, reading your intro was like looking in a mirror. Late nights, upper lip ninja dipping at work, etc. I'm on Day 8 and every day I win over dip the happier I am with myself and getting back control. Great to have you on board brother.
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Wow, reading your intro was like looking in a mirror. Late nights, upper lip ninja dipping at work, etc.
Me too man. I have been ninja dipping in my office for years and years thinking nobody knew. I got called into a meeting and management asked me about it and asked me to stop using in the office. Man it was embarrassing. But guess what? Being the addict I am I did not stop ninja dipping at work. I just switched to SnakeEyes GiJoe Ninja dipping at work.
Now Im quit.
PB -18-
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Thanks everyone for your comments and your support. Having a support group has to make this challenge more bearable, right?
Even though it's only been 6 days, it's funny to look back at how desperate I was to get my dip in during work hours. Most of the time I didn't get called out on it, but you knew people knew. For the people that did, I had to come up with excuses like I gums were enflamed from flossing, or something really stupid. One time my boss saw my can in my sock (my favorite hiding place in the office) and just rolled his eyes. Right now I'm rocking the ninja style FAKE dip...it's really not that bad. I'll need to stop that at some point but today is not the day....
For the length of time I've had this nasty habit, I could tell you many stories about how I kept this secret from my loved ones and family members....it's really quite pathetic. But anyway, thanks again for all the kind words...and I plan on posting on other people's pages to lend them the same type of support I'm receiving!
Brad
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One time my boss saw my can in my sock (my favorite hiding place in the office)
yup....thats where I kept mine also. Too funny.
Keep it up Brad. You are doing great.
PB
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Hey Brad. You already have received some pretty sound advice, so I will just touch on one subject: Roll. Roll is your daily promise to yourself and all of your new brothers and sisters that you will not use tobacco in any form that day. You will post your name and the number of days you are quit each day in the March, 2014 quit group. Each and every day you will post your promise. No exceptions. That is the price of admission to KTC. Nothing more and nothing less. The reason you are put in March is that will be the month that you will celebrate being 100 days free of nicotineÂ…your Hall of Fame date. If you are out of town, your phone explodes and there are no pc's to log into the site from, text your daily promise to a brother and that person will post for you. Easy. So there is no excuse for not posting roll. That is the first step in accountability. Congratulations on making the best decision of your life. Wayne
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One time my boss saw my can in my sock (my favorite hiding place in the office)
yup....thats where I kept mine also. Too funny.
Keep it up Brad. You are doing great.
PB
LMAO all those years (40+) I thought I was the only secret dipper. Since finding KTC I've realized I wasn't alone.
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One day at a time. It gets better with each passing week. Post roll every morning first thing. Recognize the cravings and deal with them strategically as they come. PM people and get numbers so you have accountability. You want people that are going to notice and care if its noon and your name is not on that roll. You cam do this. Keep it going. ODAAT.
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I know this dude. He is serious about his quit and saving his life. He is drinking the kool aid. Get used to seeing him around here.
PB
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I see you posted day 1 with March 2014. Time to answer the 3 questions brother.
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I guess they upgraded the questions to 4 now. Answer them. What happened? When did it happen?, Why did it happen? and What are you going to do going forward? I want this in March 14' and March 16' as well
If you have a plan and follow it you will succeed. Without a plan you will be lost. The plan is easy, and if you follow it, you will be quit. Post roll, keep your promise, repeat. This is not a sometimes plan, this is an all the time thing. Please learn from the huge fuck up you had by leaving this site in the first place and quit today.
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Hello. There are probably many new faces/names to this site since the last time I visited. But I can guarantee that if I go through the community pages and begin to read many of the stories posted, I will recognize some of the people that helped me quit over 2 years ago.
See, I was a newbie back in December 2013. I found this site and gave it a shot. It was a very critical part of my quit. Shit....it was the most important part of my quit. My wife will always support me, and she pushed me and rooted for me. But there's something quite different about a group of people (albeit on the internet) that have the same problem....same addiction....working towards a common goal together. It's kind of weird, but the support I can get from strangers.....ones where I can only see avatars, and not faces.....can actually be more meaningful and inspirational than that of a spouse or significant other. It sounds weird, but it's very true.
Now comes the hard part. I abandoned the site after my 90 day quit. Not immediately, but shortly thereafter. Obviously a terrible decision on my part, because now I've been back dipping for the past 10 months....after a 2+ year quit. I started dipping again because I lost my support group. So why did I leave the support group in the first place?
Whenever I used the site, and posted my roll call each morning, I did it for me. I didn't do it for you, or the other guy, I did it for me. This was my coping mechanism to help ME fix my problem. I did not reach out to others. I rarely PM's people. I never called anybody. This was MY thing. And while my posting on the site could be construed as "Brotherhood", which is a word on the web page banner that's used to describe the TRUE meaning of the site, my true feelings were selfish in nature. Someone failed? Whatever, didn't care.
Which comes to why I left. I was completely turned off by the reaction of people on this site when a fellow quitter would fall off the wagon. They would chastise....ridicule....call for banishment from the site, in some instances. Talk about flying off the handle, right? I mean, if someone is having difficulty, they should be encouraged to keep trying, right? Yes and no. Tough love is what a lot of people need, and if I would have been more receptive to the methods used as motivation here, I would no doubt still be 100% quit now. You want to call some of the methods and motivations ridiculous? Over the top? Maddening? I call them effective.
This doesn't mean people do not care. They do. But what people understand from working through this battle for years....what I didn't realize the first time around.....is that it takes that kind of passion in order to succeed.
I will not make that mistake again.
I'm here because I want to quit, just like the last time. But unlike the last time, I'm ready to face whatever is thrown at me. I will probably be much more vocal on this site than I was before. Because my belief is that the more time you invest in anything, this quit included, it will pay off in the end.
Thank you for listening to my rambling on. I look forward to a long and prosperous journey with each of you.....one that lasts much longer than my 90 day quit.
Percy B.
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Why do I remember this name...oh, now I remember, about 900 days ago this guy used to be part of the March 2014 Iron Men; the same group posting our 1000 days of quit this month. Ironically, I was looking at our old spreadsheet this morning because fellow badass ironman, Golfpro, made the comment about the elite 11 posting our 1000th day, after starting with over 100 (which is small compared to other groups).
PB stopped posting and became a statistic; rather than be part of our elite 11, a group of guys who text daily, play fantasy football together, and most importantly - post roll daily. I guarantee, there is not a guy who wouldn't welcome another into his home or give him the shirt off his back. This brotherhood of iron men has worked our tail off to save the life of each and every guy in our group every single day. There are no other friends in my life who are like that, and hence they are special and dear to me.
PB is a re-tread. He talks of 100+ days of quit and a 2 1/2 year stint - PB, you've never quit, and you know that. You stop on occasion. A lesson about "Quit": Quitting is an action and Being quit is a way of life. Anything less is simply going through the motions.
I think you know what to do from here - actually, you summed up pretty nicely what you didn't do - so do it. Post roll daily, get involved. And if you want to see how quitters quit, post roll with the iron men too. There's no reason you can't be a badass quitter with us - but, again, you know the price of admission.
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Steak nailed it. We're hitting the comma this month you get to go through The Suck again because you got butt hurt 'bang head'
I hope for your sake that this time the suck is so goddamn bad that you' make sure you never go through it again by posting every day and you get a group of guys like Steak and I have. Motherfuckers that keep me quit every damn day because I'd never do anything to let them down.
Now go get your quit on
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well welcome back and you better man up and stay quit this time. Damn December already has a caver in there who is playing the fence about it and romanticizing about his cave.
I am not going to beat a dead horse here cause you have guys who are hitting 1000 days here and i will let them take care of that because you have way more to answer to .
But if you will post the 3 questions and answers to the newbies in DEC for them to understand why someone who would hit a 1000 days this month caved.
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Hello. There are probably many new faces/names to this site since the last time I visited. But I can guarantee that if I go through the community pages and begin to read many of the stories posted, I will recognize some of the people that helped me quit over 2 years ago.
See, I was a newbie back in December 2013. I found this site and gave it a shot. It was a very critical part of my quit. Shit....it was the most important part of my quit. My wife will always support me, and she pushed me and rooted for me. But there's something quite different about a group of people (albeit on the internet) that have the same problem....same addiction....working towards a common goal together. It's kind of weird, but the support I can get from strangers.....ones where I can only see avatars, and not faces.....can actually be more meaningful and inspirational than that of a spouse or significant other. It sounds weird, but it's very true.
Now comes the hard part. I abandoned the site after my 90 day quit. Not immediately, but shortly thereafter. Obviously a terrible decision on my part, because now I've been back dipping for the past 10 months....after a 2+ year quit. I started dipping again because I lost my support group. So why did I leave the support group in the first place?
Whenever I used the site, and posted my roll call each morning, I did it for me. I didn't do it for you, or the other guy, I did it for me. This was my coping mechanism to help ME fix my problem. I did not reach out to others. I rarely PM's people. I never called anybody. This was MY thing. And while my posting on the site could be construed as "Brotherhood", which is a word on the web page banner that's used to describe the TRUE meaning of the site, my true feelings were selfish in nature. Someone failed? Whatever, didn't care.
Which comes to why I left. I was completely turned off by the reaction of people on this site when a fellow quitter would fall off the wagon. They would chastise....ridicule....call for banishment from the site, in some instances. Talk about flying off the handle, right? I mean, if someone is having difficulty, they should be encouraged to keep trying, right? Yes and no. Tough love is what a lot of people need, and if I would have been more receptive to the methods used as motivation here, I would no doubt still be 100% quit now. You want to call some of the methods and motivations ridiculous? Over the top? Maddening? I call them effective.
This doesn't mean people do not care. They do. But what people understand from working through this battle for years....what I didn't realize the first time around.....is that it takes that kind of passion in order to succeed.
I will not make that mistake again.
I'm here because I want to quit, just like the last time. But unlike the last time, I'm ready to face whatever is thrown at me. I will probably be much more vocal on this site than I was before. Because my belief is that the more time you invest in anything, this quit included, it will pay off in the end.
Thank you for listening to my rambling on. I look forward to a long and prosperous journey with each of you.....one that lasts much longer than my 90 day quit.
Percy B.
You need to post this on your new group, December, and in your old group. And then let's get our quit on for good this time.
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Hello. There are probably many new faces/names to this site since the last time I visited. But I can guarantee that if I go through the community pages and begin to read many of the stories posted, I will recognize some of the people that helped me quit over 2 years ago.
See, I was a newbie back in December 2013. I found this site and gave it a shot. It was a very critical part of my quit. Shit....it was the most important part of my quit. My wife will always support me, and she pushed me and rooted for me. But there's something quite different about a group of people (albeit on the internet) that have the same problem....same addiction....working towards a common goal together. It's kind of weird, but the support I can get from strangers.....ones where I can only see avatars, and not faces.....can actually be more meaningful and inspirational than that of a spouse or significant other. It sounds weird, but it's very true.
Now comes the hard part. I abandoned the site after my 90 day quit. Not immediately, but shortly thereafter. Obviously a terrible decision on my part, because now I've been back dipping for the past 10 months....after a 2+ year quit. I started dipping again because I lost my support group. So why did I leave the support group in the first place?
Whenever I used the site, and posted my roll call each morning, I did it for me. I didn't do it for you, or the other guy, I did it for me. This was my coping mechanism to help ME fix my problem. I did not reach out to others. I rarely PM's people. I never called anybody. This was MY thing. And while my posting on the site could be construed as "Brotherhood", which is a word on the web page banner that's used to describe the TRUE meaning of the site, my true feelings were selfish in nature. Someone failed? Whatever, didn't care.
Which comes to why I left. I was completely turned off by the reaction of people on this site when a fellow quitter would fall off the wagon. They would chastise....ridicule....call for banishment from the site, in some instances. Talk about flying off the handle, right? I mean, if someone is having difficulty, they should be encouraged to keep trying, right? Yes and no. Tough love is what a lot of people need, and if I would have been more receptive to the methods used as motivation here, I would no doubt still be 100% quit now. You want to call some of the methods and motivations ridiculous? Over the top? Maddening? I call them effective.
This doesn't mean people do not care. They do. But what people understand from working through this battle for years....what I didn't realize the first time around.....is that it takes that kind of passion in order to succeed.
I will not make that mistake again.
I'm here because I want to quit, just like the last time. But unlike the last time, I'm ready to face whatever is thrown at me. I will probably be much more vocal on this site than I was before. Because my belief is that the more time you invest in anything, this quit included, it will pay off in the end.
Thank you for listening to my rambling on. I look forward to a long and prosperous journey with each of you.....one that lasts much longer than my 90 day quit.
Percy B.
You need to post this on your new group, December, and in your old group. And then let's get our quit on for good this time.
I agree that definitely needs to go into Dec 16 especially
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Percy,
I just penned you an email (see below). I wrote this before I realized you were "one of those quitters" who decided you had it all figured out and left the site only to return to post a Day 1. Then you post a day three and disappear? Edit: so I see where you have been "texting" in your quit promise. I gotta tell you that's pretty lame at only a few days into a quit. I don't claim to know what's going on in your life, but will tell you that it doesn't appear this to be a priority as it should be.... You have to dig deep and look inside yourself and decide whether you actually want this. From what I've seen, I'm not yet convinced you do.
Percy,
Good morning. I noticed it's been a few days since your Day 3 post and nothing from you. That's generally not a good sign at such a young quit. I strongly urge you to consider how many thousands have found a way to gut through the suck that is quitting nicotine. I know it feels like you're going to die if you don't get your next dip. Trust me. But you won't. I have searched the internet high and low for ANY example of someone actually dying from nicotine withdrawals and cannot find anything.
I know how hard quitting is. I was a slave to Copenhagen for nearly FOUR DECADES. If I can quit, anyone can. You just have to want it bad enough. Please let me know how I can help convince you of the fact that nicotine has never done anything FOR you, but it sure as heck is taking a lot FROM you.
Respectfully,
JDW
AKA CavMAn83
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Percy fellow December 16 member right here. Where you been man? You know what it's like to get sucked back in to the poison. We want to help you stay quit but you need to post roll. It takes a minute out of 24hrs. Hell it take as long as putting in a dip! Get back here and post roll. waiting*
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Missing on roll, I'd like to think that Percy is really quitting this time but I really doubt it. New quitters should read this thread and see it as an example of why missing any days will torpedo your quit! Buy in or get out!