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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: andrew33 on November 15, 2015, 04:57:00 PM
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Hello everyone. I'm Andrew been dipping off and on since I was 15 but I have been going 2 cans a day strong for the last 6 years. Work got hectic and I got home late one night and passed out and missed all my winding down dips. Woke up for work the next morning and didn't have any so I had to wait till my break. I had a pinch. Got back to work chaos and I started to have trouble bbreathing through my nose and it made me panic. I have allergies so I have trouble breathing through my nose sometimes but it has never had me panic like that. It's been 3 days since that last dip and I'm still having trouble breathing and getting that panicked feeling along with dizzyness, insomnia and starving all day. I know some of those symptoms are normal but I feel like the anxiety part probably might be something else but I went to a doctor and got some tests done and they said I was good to go and that it sounds like it was withdrawals and they told me to go put a dip in. Has anyone else had problems breathing when you quit?
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Hello everyone. I'm Andrew been dipping off and on since I was 15 but I have been going 2 cans a day strong for the last 6 years. Work got hectic and I got home late one night and passed out and missed all my winding down dips. Woke up for work the next morning and didn't have any so I had to wait till my break. I had a pinch. Got back to work chaos and I started to have trouble bbreathing through my nose and it made me panic. I have allergies so I have trouble breathing through my nose sometimes but it has never had me panic like that. It's been 3 days since that last dip and I'm still having trouble breathing and getting that panicked feeling along with dizzyness, insomnia and starving all day. I know some of those symptoms are normal but I feel like the anxiety part probably might be something else but I went to a doctor and got some tests done and they said I was good to go and that it sounds like it was withdrawals and they told me to go put a dip in. Has anyone else had problems breathing when you quit?
First of all... Thanks and good work posting this. Now you have, in writing, what nicotine has done to you.
Second - very smart to quit! It is better to quit while you still have a jaw and before you've wasted 50k or do. At 2 cans a day - both of those conclusions would happen.
As far as the anxiety, 2 cans 6 packs worth of cigarettes in nicotine. Know any 6 pack a day smokers? Fuckin A you are anxious! You just ripped a drug as addictive as heroin from your body. You are jonesing just like all of us have. Now, here is the good news... You'll never have to relive this bullshit ever again, because you are quit.
You are gonna get a lot of great advice... Water, exercise, posting roll... All are key, but posting roll is a must. This program works if you are all in with it. Don't listen to any advice to use nicotine to ease your anxiety. They don't know wtf they are talking about and they don't understand. We do. Lean on us. You can do this.
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I feel so messed up right now I'm not even craving a dip. I'm just concerned that labored breathing isn't normal for withdrawal symptoms.
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I feel so messed up right now I'm not even craving a dip. I'm just concerned that labored breathing isn't normal for withdrawal symptoms.
Relax. Close your eyes and relax.
It is anxiety. It is common. You are ok.
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Okay. That makes me a feel a little better. The difficult thing about it is that it's been hitting me at work when I'm already dizzy. I've quit dipping before and didn'thave any of this happen. Strange.
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Okay. That makes me a feel a little better. The difficult thing about it is that it's been hitting me at work when I'm already dizzy. I've quit dipping before and didn'thave any of this happen. Strange.
Not strange. The first 3 days are sheer hell. You haven't quit before, you stopped. Remember what you are feeling right now.
Dude - think about this... A drug is trying to convincevyouvthat you need it for your lungs to work. I promise you that you do not. It is all lies. Keep doing what you are doing. Some anti anxiety meds might help for a few weeks. Lots of dudes on here use them at first. Nicotine is a wicked bitch but it can be controlled
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Okay. That makes me a feel a little better. The difficult thing about it is that it's been hitting me at work when I'm already dizzy. I've quit dipping before and didn'thave any of this happen. Strange.
You stopped quitting temporarily before, but you didn't quit. If you know you can always go back to dip if things get bad enough, the anxiety isn't so bad. If you have committed yourself to quit forever and are accountable to your group, that's a lot of anxiety. So do what we do: quit one day at a time. Don't think about the forever, just about the right now. Maybe that will help you with the anxiety. Trouble breathing? Sure, that goes along with intense anxiety, maybe even mild panic attacks, hyperventilating. Like someone just said, you just gave up the nicotine equivalent of 6 packs of cigarettes a day. It will get better. It will go away. Be patient. Believe in yourself.
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I appreciate the input from you guys a lot. I'll try to remember it's normal while at work tomorrow. I quit for about 2 years before but i think the reason it didn't affect me so bad then was because i was younger, in better shape and had almost no stress in my life.
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I appreciate the input from you guys a lot. I'll try to remember it's normal while at work tomorrow. I quit for about 2 years before but i think the reason it didn't affect me so bad then was because i was younger, in better shape and had almost no stress in my life.
Did you see my note about posting roll???
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I haven't figured out where to go for posting roll or what it is? Some for of accountability system?
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I haven't figured out where to go for posting roll or what it is? Some for of accountability system?
forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
You are in the February 2016 group. This link will explain everything. You will mess roll up for the first day or two or three. Don't worry about it. Someone will fix it. Butbitbis cery very important that you post.
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Got it. Have you ever used any of the dip substitutes like smokey mountain or coffee grinds? I hadn't planned on making it a part off my cold turkey process but now I think it might be smart to have some just in case.
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Andrew way to go my friend. Great job posting roll! Anxiety is a very common thing when trying to quit! Now let's think about this, 2 cans a day of all kinds of poison going in your body. You stop cold turkey, your body damn near is in shock, all kinds of weird shits gonna go in. Stress causes all kinds of symptoms, look it up. Relax,breath smile, your not dying my friend nothing that most of us haven't been through. Remember quitting has never killed anyone! Quit on my brother! Pm me for my number if you want
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Andrew way to go my friend. Great job posting roll! Anxiety is a very common thing when trying to quit! Now let's think about this, 2 cans a day of all kinds of poison going in your body. You stop cold turkey, your body damn near is in shock, all kinds of weird shits gonna go in. Stress causes all kinds of symptoms, look it up. Relax,breath smile, your not dying my friend nothing that most of us haven't been through. Remember quitting has never killed anyone! Quit on my brother! Pm me for my number if you want
I appreciate your words. I'm just concerned that these anxiety episodes might not be from the withdrawals but from not dealing with stress properly. But I had blood work done on Friday and they said i was healthy. So, I'm just going to try and take it easy at work if i can until these symptoms improve.
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Andrew way to go my friend. Great job posting roll! Anxiety is a very common thing when trying to quit! Now let's think about this, 2 cans a day of all kinds of poison going in your body. You stop cold turkey, your body damn near is in shock, all kinds of weird shits gonna go in. Stress causes all kinds of symptoms, look it up. Relax,breath smile, your not dying my friend nothing that most of us haven't been through. Remember quitting has never killed anyone! Quit on my brother! Pm me for my number if you want
I appreciate your words. I'm just concerned that these anxiety episodes might not be from the withdrawals but from not dealing with stress properly. But I had blood work done on Friday and they said i was healthy. So, I'm just going to try and take it easy at work if i can until these symptoms improve.
Anxiety and stress go hand and hand. If you are having problems and are worrying yourself bad enough go get some anxiety meds my friend, there's several guys I've talked to and read about that's using or used anxiety meds! Whatever you do keep this shit out of your mouth! We're all here to help you in anyway we can.
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Anxiety is caused by not getting your nicotine fix. In a few weeks you will wonder why you ever needed nicotine for any reason. Freedom is truly awesome.
I quit with you today.
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Andrew way to go my friend. Great job posting roll! Anxiety is a very common thing when trying to quit! Now let's think about this, 2 cans a day of all kinds of poison going in your body. You stop cold turkey, your body damn near is in shock, all kinds of weird shits gonna go in. Stress causes all kinds of symptoms, look it up. Relax,breath smile, your not dying my friend nothing that most of us haven't been through. Remember quitting has never killed anyone! Quit on my brother! Pm me for my number if you want
I appreciate your words. I'm just concerned that these anxiety episodes might not be from the withdrawals but from not dealing with stress properly. But I had blood work done on Friday and they said i was healthy. So, I'm just going to try and take it easy at work if i can until these symptoms improve.
Anxiety and stress go hand and hand. If you are having problems and are worrying yourself bad enough go get some anxiety meds my friend, there's several guys I've talked to and read about that's using or used anxiety meds! Whatever you do keep this shit out of your mouth! We're all here to help you in anyway we can.
Poster child for anxiety/panic when I quit.
Scariest shit I ever felt. Thought I was dieing, thought I was going to have a heart attack, couldn't breathe, couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, could barely function.
In and out of the doctor I went, convinced it was something other than quitting dip. It jus HAD to be.
Blood tests, nuclear stress tests, ekg's, asthma tests and more. Nothing. I should have been happy that it was nothing, but I wasn't.
Truth was not only had I become addicted to dip /nicotine, I had been using it to deal with stress and anxiety. Once it was taken away...KA BLAM-O. I got socked in the face and was clueless how to fight back.
I didn't want to go back to the can so I ended up seeking help by seeing a counselor and psychiatrist. Counselor helped me just by talking and listening. Pysciatrist helped by prescribing me some meds as an assist to help me out as I learned to live life without my crutch.
I also became HEAVILY reliant on this site. Some of the support I got from the guys on here is stuff you can't find any place else. This place is full of professional quitters.
3-1/2 years later I'm still quit and feel like a champion
Am I saying that this is the road you have to take...nope. Am I sayingthat what you are feeling is not uncommon and all related to your quiting...yep.
It's not always going to be easy but it will always be worth it.
Quit on...
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It's beautiful how much that matched my first day off dip. Very reassuring. I just wish this hadn't come from a Michigan fan. Hahah. When I start getting out of this fog and dazed phase I'm gonna get back in the gym hard.
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It's beautiful how much that matched my first day off dip. Very reassuring. I just wish this hadn't come from a Michigan fan. Hahah. When I start getting out of this fog and dazed phase I'm gonna get back in the gym hard.
Go back to the gym, NOW.
Exercise is a great anxiety buster and will help occupy your mind and get some positive MOJO going.
Don't wait for the fog to lift. Rise up out of it!
Quit on...
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The difference in day 4 and days 1-3 is amazing. Not feeling nearly as dizzy at work or having anxiety. I am overall still feeling depressed and foggy. Couldn't remember how to spell the words transfer and receive lol
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good to read. Yes day 4 you are free of nicotine, so physical withdrawal is done. Now comes the mental part. As recommended above, work out and drink lots of water. The fog can last a while, but it is not forever.
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Spoke too soon. Anxiety is kicking back up. At least it seems to spacing itself out more. Had trouble correctly posting roll from my phone today but I'll get it figured out.
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Spoke too soon. Anxiety is kicking back up. At least it seems to spacing itself out more. Had trouble correctly posting roll from my phone today but I'll get it figured out.
Anxiety is the excuse I used to bust all of my previous attempts to quit. I am on day 69 and I still fight anxiety but it is getting better. For 15 years I used nicotine as a crutch to deal with my stress and anxiety. 2+ cans per day wasn't enough to handle it any more and my lips and gums couldn't handle 3 cans per day and Lord knows I tried. I went to the doctor 2 years ago and started anxiety medication and it helped for awhile. I am still on a low dose and it think it helps to even out the anxiety instead of having big swings. The best thing I can do is controlled breathing. Take in a deep breath while counting to three and then exhale while counting to three. I do this as sets of 10. At first I was doing up to 20 sets and now the most extreme anxiety attacks may take 3-4 sets to get calmed back down. I also listen to self hypnosis videos on youtube. If I have a bad attack at work, I will open up word and just start typing whatever comes to mind. It helps me get back into perspective and then I can select all and delete my worries and it helps calm me.
Hope some wisdom from an Illini fan is a little better received. ;)
PM me anytime you need to vent. I am willing to help and proud to quit with you today.
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Spoke too soon. Anxiety is kicking back up. At least it seems to spacing itself out more. Had trouble correctly posting roll from my phone today but I'll get it figured out.
Anxiety is the excuse I used to bust all of my previous attempts to quit. I am on day 69 and I still fight anxiety but it is getting better. For 15 years I used nicotine as a crutch to deal with my stress and anxiety. 2+ cans per day wasn't enough to handle it any more and my lips and gums couldn't handle 3 cans per day and Lord knows I tried. I went to the doctor 2 years ago and started anxiety medication and it helped for awhile. I am still on a low dose and it think it helps to even out the anxiety instead of having big swings. The best thing I can do is controlled breathing. Take in a deep breath while counting to three and then exhale while counting to three. I do this as sets of 10. At first I was doing up to 20 sets and now the most extreme anxiety attacks may take 3-4 sets to get calmed back down. I also listen to self hypnosis videos on youtube. If I have a bad attack at work, I will open up word and just start typing whatever comes to mind. It helps me get back into perspective and then I can select all and delete my worries and it helps calm me.
Hope some wisdom from an Illini fan is a little better received. ;)
PM me anytime you need to vent. I am willing to help and proud to quit with you today.
Hey sir - there will be ups and downs in this process. Remember, this is one day at a time. Focus on today and don't worry about tomorrow. It will get better.
Did you get to read Mr Michigans (Diesels) intro? If not, you should.
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Is it common to still have a loss of dexterity in my hands and feet? When I try to play guitar I'm struggling or lagging a little bit on very easy stuff and when in driving my truck or my forklift it's like I'm having trouble controlling how much pressure I'm applying to the pedal because my calves feel week? I'm sorry for all the is this normal questions. I was always a little bit of a hypochondriac when my body would change and now since I can't explain these things it's got me on edge. Also my eye site is still kind of sluggish as well. Better then it was the first 3 days but still not normal.
Also, I'm still quit just still haven't learned the correct way to post roll from my phone. Day 6
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Andrew way to go my friend. Great job posting roll! Anxiety is a very common thing when trying to quit! Now let's think about this, 2 cans a day of all kinds of poison going in your body. You stop cold turkey, your body damn near is in shock, all kinds of weird shits gonna go in. Stress causes all kinds of symptoms, look it up. Relax,breath smile, your not dying my friend nothing that most of us haven't been through. Remember quitting has never killed anyone! Quit on my brother! Pm me for my number if you want
I appreciate your words. I'm just concerned that these anxiety episodes might not be from the withdrawals but from not dealing with stress properly. But I had blood work done on Friday and they said i was healthy. So, I'm just going to try and take it easy at work if i can until these symptoms improve.
Anxiety and stress go hand and hand. If you are having problems and are worrying yourself bad enough go get some anxiety meds my friend, there's several guys I've talked to and read about that's using or used anxiety meds! Whatever you do keep this shit out of your mouth! We're all here to help you in anyway we can.
Andrew,
I'm fairly new to this also. The anxiety is horrible. I feel like I'm going to fall down from dizziness. It's hard to breath sometimes.
It does get better...I'm on day 13. It's still difficult sometimes but is 99.9% better than my first week.
Good luck bro...I quit with you!
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Andrew way to go my friend. Great job posting roll! Anxiety is a very common thing when trying to quit! Now let's think about this, 2 cans a day of all kinds of poison going in your body. You stop cold turkey, your body damn near is in shock, all kinds of weird shits gonna go in. Stress causes all kinds of symptoms, look it up. Relax,breath smile, your not dying my friend nothing that most of us haven't been through. Remember quitting has never killed anyone! Quit on my brother! Pm me for my number if you want
I appreciate your words. I'm just concerned that these anxiety episodes might not be from the withdrawals but from not dealing with stress properly. But I had blood work done on Friday and they said i was healthy. So, I'm just going to try and take it easy at work if i can until these symptoms improve.
Anxiety and stress go hand and hand. If you are having problems and are worrying yourself bad enough go get some anxiety meds my friend, there's several guys I've talked to and read about that's using or used anxiety meds! Whatever you do keep this shit out of your mouth! We're all here to help you in anyway we can.
Andrew,
I'm fairly new to this also. The anxiety is horrible. I feel like I'm going to fall down from dizziness. It's hard to breath sometimes.
It does get better...I'm on day 13. It's still difficult sometimes but is 99.9% better than my first week.
Good luck bro...I quit with you!
Thanks, man. I need to keep hearing that from folks. Makes me feel like what's happening is to be expected. You just about got yours in the bag! Just got remember why were doing this!
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Andrew way to go my friend. Great job posting roll! Anxiety is a very common thing when trying to quit! Now let's think about this, 2 cans a day of all kinds of poison going in your body. You stop cold turkey, your body damn near is in shock, all kinds of weird shits gonna go in. Stress causes all kinds of symptoms, look it up. Relax,breath smile, your not dying my friend nothing that most of us haven't been through. Remember quitting has never killed anyone! Quit on my brother! Pm me for my number if you want
I appreciate your words. I'm just concerned that these anxiety episodes might not be from the withdrawals but from not dealing with stress properly. But I had blood work done on Friday and they said i was healthy. So, I'm just going to try and take it easy at work if i can until these symptoms improve.
Anxiety and stress go hand and hand. If you are having problems and are worrying yourself bad enough go get some anxiety meds my friend, there's several guys I've talked to and read about that's using or used anxiety meds! Whatever you do keep this shit out of your mouth! We're all here to help you in anyway we can.
Andrew,
I'm fairly new to this also. The anxiety is horrible. I feel like I'm going to fall down from dizziness. It's hard to breath sometimes.
It does get better...I'm on day 13. It's still difficult sometimes but is 99.9% better than my first week.
Good luck bro...I quit with you!
Thanks, man. I need to keep hearing that from folks. Makes me feel like what's happening is to be expected. You just about got yours in the bag! Just got remember why were doing this!
This will all pass shortly Andrew. Just stay quit and you'll never have to go through it again.
As far as your roll post, you can do exactly what you did here, but post it in your group: Feb 2016 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11383298/156/#new).
Somebody there will pick you up if you can't figure out how to do it from your phone. The most important thing is to get it up there, doesn't have to be right.
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I don't want to become dependant on pills. If there's a chance i can tough this out till the point that these attacks stop happening i want that. But i can't go on much longer at work having to stop and find a place to freak out. I made an appointment with my ent to get my nose checked out but they can'tsee me till damn dDecember 1st
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I don't want to become dependant on pills. If there's a chance i can tough this out till the point that these attacks stop happening i want that. But i can't go on much longer at work having to stop and find a place to freak out. I made an appointment with my ent to get my nose checked out but they can'tsee me till damn dDecember 1st
Your goal today is to get off the nicotine dependence. Your body and brain are fighting with each other trying to figure out what to do.
Nicotine is an oxygen suppressant in the bloodstream. Your brain hasn't been getting the amount of oxygen that it was "wired" to get for some time, and now there is a flood of O2 hitting it. Which is good... but your brain doesn't understand that. It is like being in a dark room for 5 years and suddenly having bright lights shining in your eyes. It hurts. Same deal with your oxygen dude...
There is nothing wrong with a couple of months of anxiety meds to help you through a tough spot. Your doctor (GP) can help you out with that, and it will help more than you know. I didn't use them, but a lot of my friends did. If it helps you heal, do it.
Still quit with you today sir. You should be very proud.
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I don't want to become dependant on pills. If there's a chance i can tough this out till the point that these attacks stop happening i want that. But i can't go on much longer at work having to stop and find a place to freak out. I made an appointment with my ent to get my nose checked out but they can'tsee me till damn dDecember 1st
Your goal today is to get off the nicotine dependence. Your body and brain are fighting with each other trying to figure out what to do.
Nicotine is an oxygen suppressant in the bloodstream. Your brain hasn't been getting the amount of oxygen that it was "wired" to get for some time, and now there is a flood of O2 hitting it. Which is good... but your brain doesn't understand that. It is like being in a dark room for 5 years and suddenly having bright lights shining in your eyes. It hurts. Same deal with your oxygen dude...
There is nothing wrong with a couple of months of anxiety meds to help you through a tough spot. Your doctor (GP) can help you out with that, and it will help more than you know. I didn't use them, but a lot of my friends did. If it helps you heal, do it.
Still quit with you today sir. You should be very proud.
Understand where you coming from my friend, I agree with you but I also understand what w2w saying, if the brain starts to convince then meds better than nic! Quit on my friend! We're here just ask.
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Anybody have dizziness for a long time after their quit? I'm only on day 8 but I'm starting to think the dizziness is triggering the anxiety. Every time I walk on uneven ground, uphill, downhill, drive my truck or forklift my eyes get lost and I started to get dizzy and nauseas. I was just pushing my kid in the stroller for a short stroll and had to stop and lay down.
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Anybody have dizziness for a long time after their quit? I'm only on day 8 but I'm starting to think the dizziness is triggering the anxiety. Every time I walk on uneven ground, uphill, downhill, drive my truck or forklift my eyes get lost and I started to get dizzy and nauseas. I was just pushing my kid in the stroller for a short stroll and had to stop and lay down.
I had it pretty bad for the first 70 days and still feel it every once in a while. It is anxiety...breathe through it brother. Gonna send you a PM in case you need another number
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Anybody have dizziness for a long time after their quit? I'm only on day 8 but I'm starting to think the dizziness is triggering the anxiety. Every time I walk on uneven ground, uphill, downhill, drive my truck or forklift my eyes get lost and I started to get dizzy and nauseas. I was just pushing my kid in the stroller for a short stroll and had to stop and lay down.
I had it pretty bad for the first 70 days and still feel it every once in a while. It is anxiety...breathe through it brother. Gonna send you a PM in case you need another number
Andrew, take ^^^ guy up on the offer. He is certified bad ass on here, and despite his struggles became a leader in October.
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Anybody have dizziness for a long time after their quit? I'm only on day 8 but I'm starting to think the dizziness is triggering the anxiety. Every time I walk on uneven ground, uphill, downhill, drive my truck or forklift my eyes get lost and I started to get dizzy and nauseas. I was just pushing my kid in the stroller for a short stroll and had to stop and lay down.
I had it pretty bad for the first 70 days and still feel it every once in a while. It is anxiety...breathe through it brother. Gonna send you a PM in case you need another number
Andrew, take ^^^ guy up on the offer. He is certified bad ass on here, and despite his struggles became a leader in October.
Dizziness - absolutely. The oxygen imbalance is messing with you. It will pass. I promise.
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Anybody have dizziness for a long time after their quit? I'm only on day 8 but I'm starting to think the dizziness is triggering the anxiety. Every time I walk on uneven ground, uphill, downhill, drive my truck or forklift my eyes get lost and I started to get dizzy and nauseas. I was just pushing my kid in the stroller for a short stroll and had to stop and lay down.
I had it pretty bad for the first 70 days and still feel it every once in a while. It is anxiety...breathe through it brother. Gonna send you a PM in case you need another number
Andrew, take ^^^ guy up on the offer. He is certified bad ass on here, and despite his struggles became a leader in October.
Dizziness - absolutely. The oxygen imbalance is messing with you. It will pass. I promise.
Andrew slow down and try to enjoy the ride. It just like riding the big rollercoaster at Disney world, it's scary has hell at first, you're thinking what have I got myself into but the next little while its pure euphoria! See we just don't know how to handle the unexpected, sometimes we just have to relax and give it a chance! Damn proud of you! Hang in there you're not alone! We're all pulling for you!
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Im at day 75. I was wondering if the 70s - 80s funk could make anxiety flare up harder then it has been. I havent been foggy but i couldnt sleep last night, had nightmares and going through that feeling where i just need to break down and cry for some reason.... chest pains are getting ridiculous amd radiating down my left arm. I wentto the ER sunday and they said i was fine but dammit. I dont have anxious thoughts or crazy fears why do i have panic attacks. Fuck.
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Im at day 75. I was wondering if the 70s - 80s funk could make anxiety flare up harder then it has been. I havent been foggy but i couldnt sleep last night, had nightmares and going through that feeling where i just need to break down and cry for some reason.... chest pains are getting ridiculous amd radiating down my left arm. I wentto the ER sunday and they said i was fine but dammit. I dont have anxious thoughts or crazy fears why do i have panic attacks. Fuck.
If you read enough of these intros, you start to pick up on patterns. Many, MANY of the addicts here used nicotine as a sort of self medication for anxiety. Now did the nicotine cause the anxiety in the first place? Did the nicotine self medicate an underlying condition? Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I dunno.
What I do know is... in the end nicotine adds a lot of anxiety to the mix. Like when you look at your lip in the mirror and say - is it supposed to look like ground chuck? Or when you go to the dentist and are scared to death on the way there. Or when you are going to some important meeting or get together and dribble some brown spit all over your white shirt. Or when you run out of brand X at 11pm on Christmas Eve and all the stores are closed/sold out. I could type this list of preventable anxiety all day, but you already know this.
Don't hesitate to get something to help out a bit with the anxiety if you need it. A lot of guys do get some temporary help, and there is no shame in it. That being said, I wanted to remember all of the BS that I did to myself with nicotine. Looking back, a trip to the ER should piss you off a whole lot.
You are winning. Every day. Brighter days are ahead. I promise.
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Im at day 75. I was wondering if the 70s - 80s funk could make anxiety flare up harder then it has been. I havent been foggy but i couldnt sleep last night, had nightmares and going through that feeling where i just need to break down and cry for some reason.... chest pains are getting ridiculous amd radiating down my left arm. I wentto the ER sunday and they said i was fine but dammit. I dont have anxious thoughts or crazy fears why do i have panic attacks. Fuck.
If you read enough of these intros, you start to pick up on patterns. Many, MANY of the addicts here used nicotine as a sort of self medication for anxiety. Now did the nicotine cause the anxiety in the first place? Did the nicotine self medicate an underlying condition? Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I dunno.
What I do know is... in the end nicotine adds a lot of anxiety to the mix. Like when you look at your lip in the mirror and say - is it supposed to look like ground chuck? Or when you go to the dentist and are scared to death on the way there. Or when you are going to some important meeting or get together and dribble some brown spit all over your white shirt. Or when you run out of brand X at 11pm on Christmas Eve and all the stores are closed/sold out. I could type this list of preventable anxiety all day, but you already know this.
Don't hesitate to get something to help out a bit with the anxiety if you need it. A lot of guys do get some temporary help, and there is no shame in it. That being said, I wanted to remember all of the BS that I did to myself with nicotine. Looking back, a trip to the ER should piss you off a whole lot.
You are winning. Every day. Brighter days are ahead. I promise.
Im on 7.5 mg of buspirone 2x a day. I cut it down to 1 because im om antibiotics now for a uti and i in general dont lot to take pills let alone 2 at a time. I understand what youre saying and i honestly cant tell you. I had anxieties before i quit dip but it was never a problem just your regular worries. Its just frustrating because last week things were looking up. I went all week without having any anxiety problems except for about 10 minutes 1 day.
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Im at day 75. I was wondering if the 70s - 80s funk could make anxiety flare up harder then it has been. I havent been foggy but i couldnt sleep last night, had nightmares and going through that feeling where i just need to break down and cry for some reason.... chest pains are getting ridiculous amd radiating down my left arm. I wentto the ER sunday and they said i was fine but dammit. I dont have anxious thoughts or crazy fears why do i have panic attacks. Fuck.
If you read enough of these intros, you start to pick up on patterns. Many, MANY of the addicts here used nicotine as a sort of self medication for anxiety. Now did the nicotine cause the anxiety in the first place? Did the nicotine self medicate an underlying condition? Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I dunno.
What I do know is... in the end nicotine adds a lot of anxiety to the mix. Like when you look at your lip in the mirror and say - is it supposed to look like ground chuck? Or when you go to the dentist and are scared to death on the way there. Or when you are going to some important meeting or get together and dribble some brown spit all over your white shirt. Or when you run out of brand X at 11pm on Christmas Eve and all the stores are closed/sold out. I could type this list of preventable anxiety all day, but you already know this.
Don't hesitate to get something to help out a bit with the anxiety if you need it. A lot of guys do get some temporary help, and there is no shame in it. That being said, I wanted to remember all of the BS that I did to myself with nicotine. Looking back, a trip to the ER should piss you off a whole lot.
You are winning. Every day. Brighter days are ahead. I promise.
Im on 7.5 mg of buspirone 2x a day. I cut it down to 1 because im om antibiotics now for a uti and i in general dont lot to take pills let alone 2 at a time. I understand what youre saying and i honestly cant tell you. I had anxieties before i quit dip but it was never a problem just your regular worries. Its just frustrating because last week things were looking up. I went all week without having any anxiety problems except for about 10 minutes 1 day.
Quitting at the beginning is like a roller coaster. Some days up. Some not. The ride levels out.
Keep winning.
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Im at day 75. I was wondering if the 70s - 80s funk could make anxiety flare up harder then it has been. I havent been foggy but i couldnt sleep last night, had nightmares and going through that feeling where i just need to break down and cry for some reason.... chest pains are getting ridiculous amd radiating down my left arm. I wentto the ER sunday and they said i was fine but dammit. I dont have anxious thoughts or crazy fears why do i have panic attacks. Fuck.
If you read enough of these intros, you start to pick up on patterns. Many, MANY of the addicts here used nicotine as a sort of self medication for anxiety. Now did the nicotine cause the anxiety in the first place? Did the nicotine self medicate an underlying condition? Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I dunno.
What I do know is... in the end nicotine adds a lot of anxiety to the mix. Like when you look at your lip in the mirror and say - is it supposed to look like ground chuck? Or when you go to the dentist and are scared to death on the way there. Or when you are going to some important meeting or get together and dribble some brown spit all over your white shirt. Or when you run out of brand X at 11pm on Christmas Eve and all the stores are closed/sold out. I could type this list of preventable anxiety all day, but you already know this.
Don't hesitate to get something to help out a bit with the anxiety if you need it. A lot of guys do get some temporary help, and there is no shame in it. That being said, I wanted to remember all of the BS that I did to myself with nicotine. Looking back, a trip to the ER should piss you off a whole lot.
You are winning. Every day. Brighter days are ahead. I promise.
Im on 7.5 mg of buspirone 2x a day. I cut it down to 1 because im om antibiotics now for a uti and i in general dont lot to take pills let alone 2 at a time. I understand what youre saying and i honestly cant tell you. I had anxieties before i quit dip but it was never a problem just your regular worries. Its just frustrating because last week things were looking up. I went all week without having any anxiety problems except for about 10 minutes 1 day.
Quitting at the beginning is like a roller coaster. Some days up. Some not. The ride levels out.
Keep winning.
Andrew my friend anxiety, panic attacks read so much of that on here. I myself always had panic attacks, anxiety on and off before and after I Quit. But I can honestly say I don't remember the last panic or anxiety attack I had. You here that your brain is rewiring, its obviously the truth. It took a while just like everyone said but man life is so much better all across the board. Just remember this bitch is not gonna give up therefore you must fight for what you want and never ever let her gain an inch, like doubting yourself, you've got this! I've watched you come through some bad shit but you pulled through like a champ! Whether it's a 100,200 or whatever it's worth waiting on the feeling I have now! Quit on! I'm free, join me! I will never let my guard down, she is always waiting on that little slip up!
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Hey brother. I hear and feel you on the anxiety attacks. I never knew if I had any anxiety issues at all during my life since being with the nic bitch since age 13. I'm on day 39 and I experienced my first huge anxiety attack this last Sunday! It scared the s*** out of me! Luckily I had been prescribed xanax to deal with it. But I'm taking less than half the dose recommended by my doctor. It's helped me tremendously to get through this and I truly feel for you. I hope it ends for us soon hang in there and stay strong brother!
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Andrew, you sound just like me, my man. Especially back in my 70's I hit a huge wall as if I had started over from the beginning....
And then one day the sky opened up and I could see clearly and think clearly and I was happy for almost an entire month, right up until about three days ago when I started getting whispers of anxiety coming back. Today I woke up with a rapid heartbeat and a scared feeling. I cried twice today. It was the worst day out of the past three days, and I doubt it will be over for a few more days, but I can say this: the intensity this time around is greatly diminished and it has not crushed my faith in myself the way my 70's funk did.
Once you see clearly for a while, you will realize that there is an end to all of this suffering. You will probably have setbacks and recurrences, yes. I sure have. But the events are getting fewer and further between, and the intensity is dropping.
Bro, this is it. This is our quit. Our minds are going to try to convince us that there's something wrong with us and that we're permanently screwed, but we're not. I refuse to accept that, despite what I feel in that moment. We're coming home, Andrew, and there's no place like home.
Stick with it and you will see.
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Tomorrow is your day to celebrate, 100 days, reflect and know that you are moving on to more +1's.
You've got your tools, your knowledge to make it through the next day.
Know that you have a lot of support here. Use it, you'll need it.
You've ridden the roller-coaster so far and haven't fallen off. You've had it tough, but you proved you can hold steady.
Keep up the good work and stay connected, that is KEY to you staying quit.
Be aware ,, know that the funks will come, reach out to your people on here, and if you aren't complacent in your actions and thoughts, you'll get through those as well.
I am proud to quit with you. Happy HOF one day early my brother.
~Chick
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Tomorrow is your day to celebrate, 100 days, reflect and know that you are moving on to more +1's.
You've got your tools, your knowledge to make it through the next day.
Know that you have a lot of support here. Use it, you'll need it.
You've ridden the roller-coaster so far and haven't fallen off. You've had it tough, but you proved you can hold steady.
Keep up the good work and stay connected, that is KEY to you staying quit.
Be aware ,, know that the funks will come, reach out to your people on here, and if you aren't complacent in your actions and thoughts, you'll get through those as well.
I am proud to quit with you. Happy HOF one day early my brother.
~Chick
officially congrats on your 100 days!!
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Tomorrow is your day to celebrate, 100 days, reflect and know that you are moving on to more +1's.
You've got your tools, your knowledge to make it through the next day.
Know that you have a lot of support here. Use it, you'll need it.
You've ridden the roller-coaster so far and haven't fallen off. You've had it tough, but you proved you can hold steady.
Keep up the good work and stay connected, that is KEY to you staying quit.
Be aware ,, know that the funks will come, reach out to your people on here, and if you aren't complacent in your actions and thoughts, you'll get through those as well.
I am proud to quit with you. Happy HOF one day early my brother.
~Chick
officially congrats on your 100 days!!
Congrats on HOF Andrew! Things will keep getting better for you.
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Tomorrow is your day to celebrate, 100 days, reflect and know that you are moving on to more +1's.
You've got your tools, your knowledge to make it through the next day.
Know that you have a lot of support here. Use it, you'll need it.
You've ridden the roller-coaster so far and haven't fallen off. You've had it tough, but you proved you can hold steady.
Keep up the good work and stay connected, that is KEY to you staying quit.
Be aware ,, know that the funks will come, reach out to your people on here, and if you aren't complacent in your actions and thoughts, you'll get through those as well.
I am proud to quit with you. Happy HOF one day early my brother.
~Chick
officially congrats on your 100 days!!
Congrats on HOF Andrew! Things will keep getting better for you.
Andrew - it is an honor to quit with you today. You are bad ass.
100 is the beginning - greatness is ahead.
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Andrew, thinking about you. This place has many who can help you with any issue you face. Just know its better not to regress, but much better to reach out in times of anxiety and stress.
I know this because i also regress and go to a lonely spot in those times. You feel you are protecting yourself, but you're shutting off any hope, trust in the brotherhood.
Take care!!
I care!!
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Hello everyone. I'm Andrew been dipping off and on since I was 15 but I have been going 2 cans a day strong for the last 6 years. Work got hectic and I got home late one night and passed out and missed all my winding down dips. Woke up for work the next morning and didn't have any so I had to wait till my break. I had a pinch. Got back to work chaos and I started to have trouble breathing through my nose and it made me panic. I have allergies so I have trouble breathing through my nose sometimes but it has never had me panic like that. It's been 3 days since that last dip and I'm still having trouble breathing and getting that panicked feeling along with dizzyness, insomnia and starving all day. I know some of those symptoms are normal but I feel like the anxiety part probably might be something else but I went to a doctor and got some tests done and they said I was good to go and that it sounds like it was withdrawals and they told me to go put a dip in. Has anyone else had problems breathing when you quit?
This is your intro statement. Fear, panic, anxiety. The first week of your stoppage was pure hell. So you join up with Feb 2016 HOF group, get some pretty bad-ass quitters on your team supporting you, then after hitting the HOF, you stop posting roll. I can only assume you have caved. If you haven't caved yet, you probably will...because you're not posting that promise anymore. Basically, that tells me that you stopped caring about yourself and you could give a damn about the people who were with you every step of the way.
So, prove me wrong. Respond to this intro and defend yourself. Tell me you're still quit and I'm full of shit. More importantly, tell your quit brothers that you're quit and you won't turn your back on them again. AND most importantly get your name on roll.
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Hello everyone. I'm Andrew been dipping off and on since I was 15 but I have been going 2 cans a day strong for the last 6 years. Work got hectic and I got home late one night and passed out and missed all my winding down dips. Woke up for work the next morning and didn't have any so I had to wait till my break. I had a pinch. Got back to work chaos and I started to have trouble breathing through my nose and it made me panic. I have allergies so I have trouble breathing through my nose sometimes but it has never had me panic like that. It's been 3 days since that last dip and I'm still having trouble breathing and getting that panicked feeling along with dizzyness, insomnia and starving all day. I know some of those symptoms are normal but I feel like the anxiety part probably might be something else but I went to a doctor and got some tests done and they said I was good to go and that it sounds like it was withdrawals and they told me to go put a dip in. Has anyone else had problems breathing when you quit?
This is your intro statement. Fear, panic, anxiety. The first week of your stoppage was pure hell. So you join up with Feb 2016 HOF group, get some pretty bad-ass quitters on your team supporting you, then after hitting the HOF, you stop posting roll. I can only assume you have caved. If you haven't caved yet, you probably will...because you're not posting that promise anymore. Basically, that tells me that you stopped caring about yourself and you could give a damn about the people who were with you every step of the way.
So, prove me wrong. Respond to this intro and defend yourself. Tell me you're still quit and I'm full of shit. More importantly, tell your quit brothers that you're quit and you won't turn your back on them again. AND most importantly get your name on roll.
Andrew , get back here. Roll Up.