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Title: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 17, 2016, 11:35:00 AM
Hello everyone. I decided after much back and forth that I would create an account and post here. I decided last Tuesday to give up the can. It wasn't a "hardcore quit" like I see many people post on here. I didn't say "F U" to the can or anything like that, I just said to myself that once I ran out I wouldn't buy any more and see if I can kick this habit. Let me back up and give you a quick rundown of my story.

I started rubbing snuff in 2007 at 25 year old when I moved in with a roommate who was a habitual user. My life was in shambles after all three of my family members were in the ICU that year and I needed a way to "decompress". It started with snuff pouches and eventually led to the loose stuff. I was pretty much a "ninja" user and only a select few individuals knew about it. As the years went on so did the habit. My father passed away in 2008 and my relationship with my fiance at the time was falling apart. She ended up finding out about my habit and scolded me like a dog. This made me feel worthless as a person. Shortly after, we parted ways. Just an FYI, it wasn't the tobacco that ended our relationship.

Anyways, over the years I had really let myself go. I became overweight and my health was now a concern. I decided to start working out and watching my diet. I ended up losing a good amount of weight (80-90lbs) and after a while, started dating again. I decided to set my sights high and go after a particular girl who I was intrigued by. She was someone who I thought of as being "out of my league", but I was so smitten that I didn't even care. I never let on about my tobacco use and I would rub snuff up until the time I picked her up for a date and immediately again after I dropped her back off. One day I had a moment of clarity and decided that if I was going to date a girl of this caliber, she would not be accommodating of my habit. So cold turkey it was. I threw the can out and never looked back. Unfortunately, a few months later, she decided that she wasn't ready for a relationship and we parted ways. We kept in touch here and there, but nothing more than that.

Even though I was upset that we couldn't make it work, I didn't default on my quit (at that point). I had a new found sense of confidence after losing weight and quitting my habit that I decided to make some further life changes. I quit my full-time job and decided to go back to college to finish my degree. This was something I had regretted not doing and it was actually the "out-of-my-league girl" that convinced me to go back. She simply said to me one day, "you should never have any regrets in life". So in January of 2011, I returned to college as a 29 year old student. Things were going well at that point. I was acing all of my classes and still solid in my quit. However, I ended up having to take an overnight security job so that I could attend classes during the day. That meant trying to stay awake all night not only to do my job, but to also work on homework. I was struggling to stay awake and focused all night. I ended up caving when I saw a coworker rubbing chewing tobacco. I thought to myself, "chewing tobacco isn't as strong as snuff so you won't get hooked". At first, I did pretty good with it. I only chewed the nights my coworker and I worked together and it was only once a night. However, one thing led to another and the next thing I know is that I'm buying/rubbing snuff everyday again.

Fast forward a year or so and the "out-of-my league" girl and I start talking again and decided to go out for dinner one night. Things were different this time around and we were both ready for a relationship. I'll save you from all the lovey dovey stuff but fast forward 2-3 later and that girl is now my wife. Things in life are great. I graduated at the top of my class in December of 2014. My wife and I have been married two years in June and I couldn't be happier. What I'm not happy about is that since we've been married I have been in full "ninja" mode. I never stopped rubbing snuff once we moved in together, but it was always behind her back. I literally couldn't wait for her to leave for work in the morning so I could pop in a rub. I found myself timing when she left work so that I could continue to rub up until the very last minute before she pulled into the driveway. I would make excuses to run errands just so I could partake in my filthy habit. At this point in our marriage, she knew that I had rubbed here and there in the past, but never knew is was a habit or that I was currently rubbing every day behind her back.

That was up until about two months ago. One day she came home to find a spitter that I left on the counter. When questioned about it, I came somewhat clean and told that that I sometimes rub snuff. She was actually pretty cool about it and we didn't discuss it anymore that evening. I was always fine with doing it behind her back because I was afraid that if she was ok with it then I would do it more often. Two weeks after getting busted with the spitter we were lying in bed. She turned to me out of nowhere and asked if I rubbed everyday. I hesitated for a moment and then decided to come totally clean. I told her the truth and that I was addicted. Again, she was fairly cool about it but this time she asked me to work on quitting. She said especially if we were going to have kids she wanted me to be around for the long haul. I vowed that I would work on quitting, but didn't really take it to heart. For the next couple of weeks, I still rubbed but I still didn't do it in front of her. I had felt like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders since I came totally clean with her. It was the only secret I kept from her and the cat was now finally out of the bag.

This brings us up to last Tuesday. I actually believe my last rub was on Monday, but we'll go with Tuesday as my official quit day. I apologize this post is so long, but once I started typing it just kinda flowed out of me. She doesn't know that I'm seven days clean and I really don't want to tell her until I'm at least 30 days clean. I just feel like that is more of an accomplishment and something she could take more seriously. I'm still having cravings, but I'm fighting those off with gum, seeds, etc. My main issue is that it used to give me something to look forward to and now I feel like I have nothing. Now, while that's not necessarily true, it does feel like I have an empty void in my life now. Any advice or suggestions are greatly appreciated. I am still working out 5-6 days a week and watching my diet. One of my main fears was weight gain after quitting so I'm trying to closely monitor that. Like I said, I'm new to the site and this is my first post. I apologize if I've done things out of order or broken any rules. Here's to one week clean. 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: Chewrouski_Philly on May 17, 2016, 12:09:00 PM
Hey rwcdrums. Thanks for sharing, it was a great read honestly as there was a lot you said that I can definitely relate to.

Whether you know or it or not yet, you are actually part of the August quit group. To help keep you on the tracks you should post roll with us everyday in our Quit Group section of the forum. It's our daily promise to each other not to chew/dip/whatever. Honestly the only time I've ever caved in a quit was when I stopped posting roll and holding myself accountable to the rest of my buddies in my group.

Glad to have you here and to be quit with you!

-Chewrouski
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: worktowin on May 17, 2016, 12:31:00 PM
What a great intro man!

Ninja is no way to live. It takes SO much energy to hide, to lie, to scheme, to come up with excuses to be alone or to leave. The long showers, long drives, the panic trips late at night when you run out... believe me, a lot of us can relate.

It is great that you are quit. It is great that you have a spouse that knows your low point, but trust me, there are high points ahead that you can't imagine. You don't need nicotine to have something to celebrate or look forward to. You are headed to a great place, and by joining your group you are doing this the right way.

I was ninja for 25 years. 300 days in I came totally clean with my wife. Our relationship has never been better.

If I can ever help, or if you need a number, shoot me a PM. This quit is the best gift you can ever give to yourself.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 17, 2016, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Chewrouski_Philly
Hey rwcdrums. Thanks for sharing, it was a great read honestly as there was a lot you said that I can definitely relate to.

Whether you know or it or not yet, you are actually part of the August quit group. To help keep you on the tracks you should post roll with us everyday in our Quit Group section of the forum. It's our daily promise to each other not to chew/dip/whatever. Honestly the only time I've ever caved in a quit was when I stopped posting roll and holding myself accountable to the rest of my buddies in my group.

Glad to have you here and to be quit with you!

-Chewrouski
Thanks for the support! I just did my first roll call. Hopefully I did it correctly.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 17, 2016, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
What a great intro man!

Ninja is no way to live. It takes SO much energy to hide, to lie, to scheme, to come up with excuses to be alone or to leave. The long showers, long drives, the panic trips late at night when you run out... believe me, a lot of us can relate.

It is great that you are quit. It is great that you have a spouse that knows your low point, but trust me, there are high points ahead that you can't imagine. You don't need nicotine to have something to celebrate or look forward to. You are headed to a great place, and by joining your group you are doing this the right way.

I was ninja for 25 years. 300 days in I came totally clean with my wife. Our relationship has never been better.

If I can ever help, or if you need a number, shoot me a PM. This quit is the best gift you can ever give to yourself.
Thank you so much for the support and for sharing your personal story! I was feeling a little weak this morning but I'm doing much better now. Headed to the gym after work and looking forward to day number 8 quit.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: quitter123 on May 17, 2016, 01:15:00 PM
RWC, Welcome to the site.

It may help if you read all the information on this site. When I quit it helped me to read the information, Sometimes over and over. Also feel free to cut loose on us here at the site. In chat or your intro or wherever. We have thick skins and can take it. (Well most of us anyway lol.)

Now, here is the most important part.... Post roll. Everyday. We quit one day at a time here. Make that promise. Keep your word. My grandma always told you one of the things nobody can ever take away from you is your word. Make your promise. Keep your promise.

That daily promised helped me more times than you think. And, it still does. Starting out I remember quitting one minute at a time. Keep the faith, keep your word and post your promise everyday. You got this!!

Quitter.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: HighTon on May 17, 2016, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: Quitter123
RWC, Welcome to the site.

It may help if you read all the information on this site. When I quit it helped me to read the information, Sometimes over and over. Also feel free to cut loose on us here at the site. In chat or your intro or wherever. We have thick skins and can take it. (Well most of us anyway lol.)

Now, here is the most important part.... Post roll. Everyday. We quit one day at a time here. Make that promise. Keep your word. My grandma always told you one of the things nobody can ever take away from you is your word. Make your promise. Keep your promise.

That daily promised helped me more times than you think. And, it still does. Starting out I remember quitting one minute at a time. Keep the faith, keep your word and post your promise everyday. You got this!!

Quitter.
Welcome rwcdrums! Just like Quitter said, read as much on here as you have time for. That really helped me get through this far. Also, ranting like a madman on the August thread helped me when I was really raging. At the time I was just pissed off at this forum, but now I think it helped me to confine my rage here and not take it out on my wife. PM me if you want a phone number.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 17, 2016, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: HighTon
Quote from: Quitter123
RWC, Welcome to the site.

It may help if you read all the information on this site. When I quit it helped me to read the information, Sometimes over and over. Also feel free to cut loose on us here at the site. In chat or your intro or wherever. We have thick skins and can take it. (Well most of us anyway lol.)

Now, here is the most important part.... Post roll. Everyday. We quit one day at a time here. Make that promise. Keep your word. My grandma always told you one of the things nobody can ever take away from you is your word. Make your promise. Keep your promise.

That daily promised helped me more times than you think. And, it still does. Starting out I remember quitting one minute at a time. Keep the faith, keep your word and post your promise everyday. You got this!!

Quitter.
Welcome rwcdrums! Just like Quitter said, read as much on here as you have time for. That really helped me get through this far. Also, ranting like a madman on the August thread helped me when I was really raging. At the time I was just pissed off at this forum, but now I think it helped me to confine my rage here and not take it out on my wife. PM me if you want a phone number.
Thanks so much! I also saw your comment on my first roll call. I think I got it now. lol
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: Bert75 on May 17, 2016, 04:52:00 PM
Welcome RWC! Nice intro. I think there are a lot of us here that can relate to "ninja dippin" behind our wife's back.. I was certainly guilty of that myself.. No doubt it's a struggle but things get easier each day.. It's just something we Gotta Do! Hang in there buddy!!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 18, 2016, 05:33:00 AM
Quote from: Bert75
Welcome RWC! Nice intro. I think there are a lot of us here that can relate to "ninja dippin" behind our wife's back.. I was certainly guilty of that myself.. No doubt it's a struggle but things get easier each day.. It's just something we Gotta Do! Hang in there buddy!!
Thanks Bert! Yeah I never enjoyed the constant sneaking around and making sure that all "paraphernalia" was put away before the wife came home. What a pain in the ass!

I just posted roll for day 8! Feeling pretty good. Still have the minor cravings here and there. Mainly when I'm doing a particular task such as driving. No worries though, I've loaded up on gum and mints and that seems to help. My main concern is how hungry I've been or how hungry I think I am? I'm sure this will pass in due time.

I've been trying to read as much as I can on the site. Something I haven't come across yet is what good side effects (for lack of a better word) have people experienced once they quit. What I mean here is whiter teeth, lower blood pressure, less moody, etc. I guess it would be mainly health benefits, but I'm curious as to what people have experienced. I'm sure I just haven't come across it yet. I do feel like my taste buds and sense of smell are more sensitive. I don't know if that's something that happens or not, but it has definitely changed.

I'm very stoked for the days ahead and hope to see more improvements in health, mood, etc. Thanks everyone for the support! And here's to 8 days quit! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: pky1520 on May 18, 2016, 06:14:00 AM
Quote from: rwcdrums
Quote from: Bert75
Welcome RWC! Nice intro. I think there are a lot of us here that can relate to "ninja dippin" behind our wife's back.. I was certainly guilty of that myself.. No doubt it's a struggle but things get easier each day.. It's just something we Gotta Do! Hang in there buddy!!
Thanks Bert! Yeah I never enjoyed the constant sneaking around and making sure that all "paraphernalia" was put away before the wife came home. What a pain in the ass!

I just posted roll for day 8! Feeling pretty good. Still have the minor cravings here and there. Mainly when I'm doing a particular task such as driving. No worries though, I've loaded up on gum and mints and that seems to help. My main concern is how hungry I've been or how hungry I think I am? I'm sure this will pass in due time.

I've been trying to read as much as I can on the site. Something I haven't come across yet is what good side effects (for lack of a better word) have people experienced once they quit. What I mean here is whiter teeth, lower blood pressure, less moody, etc. I guess it would be mainly health benefits, but I'm curious as to what people have experienced. I'm sure I just haven't come across it yet. I do feel like my taste buds and sense of smell are more sensitive. I don't know if that's something that happens or not, but it has definitely changed.

I'm very stoked for the days ahead and hope to see more improvements in health, mood, etc. Thanks everyone for the support! And here's to 8 days quit! 'Cheers'
There are a litany of benefits and they happen to everyone.
- You'll lose 10 lbs
- Your breath will improve
- You'll shave half a second off your 40 time
- Your cock will grow an extra 1.5 inches
- Your hair will be fuller and more luminous
- Bears will be less likely to attack you
- Movie producers will stop you on the street and offer small, but memorable roles in their upcoming pictures
- Birds will no longer shit on your car
- You'll find a stranger's wallet on the street, return it and receive a $50 cash reward (that's less than was in the wallet, but at least you can feel good about doing the right thing)
- You'll live longer

Note that if you haven't yet experienced these, they're probably just one more day away, so be sure to post roll and stay quit for 24 more hours.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 18, 2016, 06:19:00 AM
Quote from: pky1520
Quote from: rwcdrums
Quote from: Bert75
Welcome RWC! Nice intro. I think there are a lot of us here that can relate to "ninja dippin" behind our wife's back.. I was certainly guilty of that myself.. No doubt it's a struggle but things get easier each day.. It's just something we Gotta Do! Hang in there buddy!!
Thanks Bert! Yeah I never enjoyed the constant sneaking around and making sure that all "paraphernalia" was put away before the wife came home. What a pain in the ass!

I just posted roll for day 8! Feeling pretty good. Still have the minor cravings here and there. Mainly when I'm doing a particular task such as driving. No worries though, I've loaded up on gum and mints and that seems to help. My main concern is how hungry I've been or how hungry I think I am? I'm sure this will pass in due time.

I've been trying to read as much as I can on the site. Something I haven't come across yet is what good side effects (for lack of a better word) have people experienced once they quit. What I mean here is whiter teeth, lower blood pressure, less moody, etc. I guess it would be mainly health benefits, but I'm curious as to what people have experienced. I'm sure I just haven't come across it yet. I do feel like my taste buds and sense of smell are more sensitive. I don't know if that's something that happens or not, but it has definitely changed.

I'm very stoked for the days ahead and hope to see more improvements in health, mood, etc. Thanks everyone for the support! And here's to 8 days quit! 'Cheers'
There are a litany of benefits and they happen to everyone.
- You'll lose 10 lbs
- Your breath will improve
- You'll shave half a second off your 40 time
- Your cock will grow an extra 1.5 inches
- Your hair will be fuller and more luminous
- Bears will be less likely to attack you
- Movie producers will stop you on the street and offer small, but memorable roles in their upcoming pictures
- Birds will no longer shit on your car
- You'll find a stranger's wallet on the street, return it and receive a $50 cash reward (that's less than was in the wallet, but at least you can feel good about doing the right thing)
- You'll live longer

Note that if you haven't yet experienced these, they're probably just one more day away, so be sure to post roll and stay quit for 24 more hours.


Haha!! Looking forward to #4!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 18, 2016, 09:37:00 AM
One thing that is quickly coming to a realization is that no nicotine means NO nicotine of any type. I used to have a cigar here and there, maybe like two a year. While they particularly never did much for me, I didn't realize that they could/would inevitably lead back to dipping. To be honest it kinda bums me out. I'm fine with quitting them too, it's just something I hadn't thought about until today. I fully understand that I'm addicted to nicotine in all forms. The good news is that I don't really hangout with people who dip or smoke cigars currently, so that should at least help.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: Thumblewort on May 18, 2016, 09:53:00 AM
Saving your life shouldn't bum you out. Learn to HATE all forms of nicotine.

I was offered a cigar last summer, and it was the easiest thing in the world to say no to, because I posted roll that morning, and that is a promise.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 18, 2016, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Saving your life shouldn't bum you out. Learn to HATE all forms of nicotine.

I was offered a cigar last summer, and it was the easiest thing in the world to say no to, because I posted roll that morning, and that is a promise.
You're right. I've got a few cigars at the house that I'm going to find a new home for. Piece of cake. 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: Thumblewort on May 18, 2016, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: rwcdrums
Quote from: Thumblewort
Saving your life shouldn't bum you out. Learn to HATE all forms of nicotine.

I was offered a cigar last summer, and it was the easiest thing in the world to say no to, because I posted roll that morning, and that is a promise.
You're right. I've got a few cigars at the house that I'm going to find a new home for. Piece of cake. 'Cheers'
May I suggest that your toilet be the humidor? No need to pass the cancer sticks on to others. Good job.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: jswiss11 on May 18, 2016, 12:15:00 PM
RWCdrums! welcome brother. great intro and congrats on marrying the "out of your league" girl you set your sights on ! that is a cool story. I commend you for waiting 30 days to tell her about your quit as well. I'm 32, dipped skoal straight since I was 15 - and am now 67 days quit. I'm finding this site is crucial to fighting through the shit of breaking this deadly habit.

I quit for myself, but also for my wife and for our future family. I knew it was a must to quit before bringing a child into the world, but so glad to be where i am now in it - free of worry about how or when i'm going to quit. also - our marriage has gotten that much better since quitting. like seriously, seems to have really lifted some heavy concern off both our shoulders. no more battles over stupid dip.

not gonna lie - this is tough. like probably the hardest thing I've ever done. but if you focus on just keeping that one promise to yourself, to your loved ones, and to your brothers and sisters on here, just one day at a time. it's not as difficult as it first seems.

looking forward to my HOF 100, but still much work to do.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 18, 2016, 12:20:00 PM
Quote from: jswiss11
RWCdrums! welcome brother. great intro and congrats on marrying the "out of your league" girl you set your sights on ! that is a cool story. I commend you for waiting 30 days to tell her about your quit as well. I'm 32, dipped skoal straight since I was 15 - and am now 67 days quit. I'm finding this site is crucial to fighting through the shit of breaking this deadly habit.

I quit for myself, but also for my wife and for our future family. I knew it was a must to quit before bringing a child into the world, but so glad to be where i am now in it - free of worry about how or when i'm going to quit. also - our marriage has gotten that much better since quitting. like seriously, seems to have really lifted some heavy concern off both our shoulders. no more battles over stupid dip.

not gonna lie - this is tough. like probably the hardest thing I've ever done. but if you focus on just keeping that one promise to yourself, to your loved ones, and to your brothers and sisters on here, just one day at a time. it's not as difficult as it first seems.

looking forward to my HOF 100, but still much work to do.
Great story, man! 67 days, wow!! Very proud of you! Thanks so much for the encouraging words! I look forward to the days where things get easier. I know the wife will be ecstatic when I hit that 30 day mark and I'm seriously considering reading her my intro post on that day. We will see. Don't need to make her head swell too much with all of the "out of my league girl" stuff. lol j/k Keep up the good fight, brotha!! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: wildirish317 on May 18, 2016, 12:29:00 PM
Quote from: rwcdrums
One thing that is quickly coming to a realization is that no nicotine means NO nicotine of any type. I used to have a cigar here and there, maybe like two a year. While they particularly never did much for me, I didn't realize that they could/would inevitably lead back to dipping. To be honest it kinda bums me out. I'm fine with quitting them too, it's just something I hadn't thought about until today. I fully understand that I'm addicted to nicotine in all forms. The good news is that I don't really hangout with people who dip or smoke cigars currently, so that should at least help.
Yeah, the cigar thing bums me out too. I used to smoke a couple per year as well. Now I'll never have a Cuban cigar. I'll just chuck that desire into the same basket as having sex with Avril Lavigne, not gonna happen.

Interesting intro. Unlike you, I started my quit with making the same promise to Mrs. Irish every morning that I post on roll: day XX, I quit today. I figured, if KTC didn't work out, Mrs. Irish would hold me to the same accountability. I was wrong on that count. Mrs. Irish will occasionally asked if I'm still quit, and I'll tell her how many days, but I don't make that promise to her first thing every morning any more. I get up and post roll while she rolls over and enjoys a few extra minutes of sleep.

Quit on, and keep posting in your intro. Turn it into your journal of quit.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 18, 2016, 12:58:00 PM
Quote from: wildirish317
Quote from: rwcdrums
One thing that is quickly coming to a realization is that no nicotine means NO nicotine of any type. I used to have a cigar here and there, maybe like two a year. While they particularly never did much for me, I didn't realize that they could/would inevitably lead back to dipping. To be honest it kinda bums me out. I'm fine with quitting them too, it's just something I hadn't thought about until today. I fully understand that I'm addicted to nicotine in all forms. The good news is that I don't really hangout with people who dip or smoke cigars currently, so that should at least help.
Yeah, the cigar thing bums me out too. I used to smoke a couple per year as well. Now I'll never have a Cuban cigar. I'll just chuck that desire into the same basket as having sex with Avril Lavigne, not gonna happen.

Interesting intro. Unlike you, I started my quit with making the same promise to Mrs. Irish every morning that I post on roll: day XX, I quit today. I figured, if KTC didn't work out, Mrs. Irish would hold me to the same accountability. I was wrong on that count. Mrs. Irish will occasionally asked if I'm still quit, and I'll tell her how many days, but I don't make that promise to her first thing every morning any more. I get up and post roll while she rolls over and enjoys a few extra minutes of sleep.

Quit on, and keep posting in your intro. Turn it into your journal of quit.
Thanks for the support! I've thought about telling the wife a couple times. If nothing more than to explain the irritability and mood swings, but as long as I can keep them brief and not too frequent, I think I can wait to tell her. I know she would be extremely proud to know that I'm putting forth this much effort. Not because she doesn't think I'm capable of it, but because she doesn't know how big of an addiction this was for me and how hard it is to quit something this evil. Now while I didn't dip all day, every day, I did let it control me and make me its bitch. My hat is off to you men and women who have dipped for 30 years or more. I can only imagine how rough it has been for you. What I do know is that we're all in this together and have the power to quit! I promise to post roll on here every day. I will have to be sly around the wife though so she doesn't ask what I'm doing. At least being a "ninja" around her this time will be for the good! I am so glad I found this page. Stay strong my friends! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: jswiss11 on May 18, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
another thing i meant to comment on: you asked about "what do I look forward to?" and man, i had the exact same thought and bout of depression too really. It was a shitty realization to be like, oh what the heck do i do now. or why do i need to go to work (ha) or mow the effing lawn, when there is no reward!! i went through some lows pondering that same thing.

I will give you two answers - the first is immediate gratification, and that answer for me, at least, is/was food. knowing that i had a solid meal to look forward to, often accompanied by a dessert of some sort. do not be afraid to gain weight, a little weight. it's crazy to think that i justified my addiction by saying "well it keeps my appetite down" and "I'll quit after I lose and keep off 10-15 lbs." well that hadn't happened for years. and i've only gained like 7 lbs. after quitting, so not bad really.

the second answer - I've only had tastes of. short glimpses, but a taste of freedom nonetheless. and I think that part of breaking this addiction and habit is allowing me to notice and savor the smaller moments in life as well. ie - the smell of my wife's hair, the cool breeze in the evening. a cold beer on the patio.

don't lose hope - there will be other, much healthier things to look forward to and anticipate
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 18, 2016, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: jswiss11
another thing i meant to comment on: you asked about "what do I look forward to?" and man, i had the exact same thought and bout of depression too really. It was a shitty realization to be like, oh what the heck do i do now. or why do i need to go to work (ha) or mow the effing lawn, when there is no reward!! i went through some lows pondering that same thing.

I will give you two answers - the first is immediate gratification, and that answer for me, at least, is/was food. knowing that i had a solid meal to look forward to, often accompanied by a dessert of some sort. do not be afraid to gain weight, a little weight. it's crazy to think that i justified my addiction by saying "well it keeps my appetite down" and "I'll quit after I lose and keep off 10-15 lbs." well that hadn't happened for years. and i've only gained like 7 lbs. after quitting, so not bad really.

the second answer - I've only had tastes of. short glimpses, but a taste of freedom nonetheless. and I think that part of breaking this addiction and habit is allowing me to notice and savor the smaller moments in life as well. ie - the smell of my wife's hair, the cool breeze in the evening. a cold beer on the patio.

don't lose hope - there will be other, much healthier things to look forward to and anticipate
Man, that is EXACTLY what I needed to hear! I'm really looking forward to all of it! (minus the weight gain. lol) Thanks man! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 19, 2016, 06:21:00 AM
Hey guys! Day #9 quit here and feeling pretty good! I had a small test of my commitment yesterday and did great! I had to drive down to take my mother to the doctor and usually after spending time with her I get a little stressed out. My go-to stress reliever has always been to throw a dip in immediately after leaving her house, sometimes also before picking her up. Anyways, I am happy to report that between gum and mints, there was no need for anything else! I did get a little stressed but then remembered my word and my promise and how great it feels to almost be in the double digits quit! I also have noticed that my mood has improved. I find myself a lot calmer and less irritable, which I am totally digging! It feels so good to be able to take the quick route home and not the long way so that I can dip for just a few minutes longer.

Everybody stay strong and I will see you quitters tomorrow for day number 10!!! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 19, 2016, 12:25:00 PM
Hey all, quick question. What is this fog everyone talks about? I understand that it's a withdrawal symptom, but I'm not totally sure I understand what it feels like. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like hell and maybe I've experienced it and just haven't noticed. I'm just trying to understand a little more of what everyone else is or has gone through.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: Bert75 on May 19, 2016, 01:52:00 PM
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Hey all, quick question. What is this fog everyone talks about? I understand that it's a withdrawal symptom, but I'm not totally sure I understand what it feels like. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like hell and maybe I've experienced it and just haven't noticed. I'm just trying to understand a little more of what everyone else is or has gone through.
Hey RWC! Nice job being quit. As far as the fog goes... I had it pretty much from the day I quit and it lasted a few days.. Then it lifted and that part of it was better.. I'm sure for everyone it's different but for me it hit right away..I felt extremely light headed and like I was eating space cookies... It was nothing as severe as I have experienced in my younger days of coming down off some pretty heavy drugs but it was still present.

I also felt for awhile that nothing was gonna be FUN anymore.. I am 45 days into my quit and I can say that things have changed.. I enjoy doing all the things I use to do while dippin.. I find it so much more rewarding now and more satisfying than I did before.. No doubt I still have bad stretches but they don't last very long. I still get annoyed with my wife at times and crabby but I did that before when I was using.. The feeling of not having to lie anymore and stress out about what I may have left in my pockets is wonderful.. I can't tell you how many days I have left to drive to the office and then think "oh shit" I forget to empty my pockets!

Anyway, things get better!!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: Thumblewort on May 19, 2016, 01:53:00 PM
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Hey all, quick question. What is this fog everyone talks about? I understand that it's a withdrawal symptom, but I'm not totally sure I understand what it feels like. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like hell and maybe I've experienced it and just haven't noticed. I'm just trying to understand a little more of what everyone else is or has gone through.
For me it was staring at nothing, for minutes at a time, whether it was work or at home. Hard to concentrate, lack of focus. Took a couple of weeks to be fully out of it. Still better then the withdrawals..........
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: worktowin on May 19, 2016, 02:00:00 PM
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Hey all, quick question. What is this fog everyone talks about? I understand that it's a withdrawal symptom, but I'm not totally sure I understand what it feels like. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like hell and maybe I've experienced it and just haven't noticed. I'm just trying to understand a little more of what everyone else is or has gone through.
For me it was staring at nothing, for minutes at a time, whether it was work or at home. Hard to concentrate, lack of focus. Took a couple of weeks to be fully out of it. Still better then the withdrawals..........
Have you ever driven home and night, pulled in the driveway, and honestly just not remembered the drive at all?

Have you ever worked all day and at the end of the day have no idea what you did, just that you did something?

That is pretty much what "the fog" is like. It is like being a zombie. It is horrible. But, it is a pathway to a great place. Some people don't experience it. Some do for a few days. I was lucky enough to have it for about 50... but I wouldn't trade it for anything. Cause when the fog lifted, I was pissed as hell.

One day at a time. Regardless of what you are experiencing, better days are ahead.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: paul-san on May 19, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
rwcdrums, great introduction and congrats on a clean 7 days. Thanks for sharing. And, welcome to the August Quit Group. I am a member as well as a 3 day quitter. Definitely here for the team so send along a PM if there is anything I can do for you. Stay strong and QUIT.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 20, 2016, 05:22:00 AM
Thanks everyone for your input and kind comments! Day 10 quit today!! Hell yeah for double digits!! Doing great, feeling great, and can't wait to do another 10 days quit! But for now, one day at a time! 'Cheers'

How's everyone else doing?
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 23, 2016, 09:09:00 AM
Gave away all of my fine cigars yesterday. No regrets! Lucky day # 13! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: worktowin on May 23, 2016, 11:23:00 AM
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Gave away all of my fine cigars yesterday. No regrets! Lucky day # 13! 'Cheers'
Wise decision. On top of the obvious upsides, no longer will you feel like you need to scrub your mouth out with a toilet brush in the morning after smoking a stogie the night before.

One day at a time.... nice 2 weeks!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 24, 2016, 05:57:00 AM
Two weeks quit today!! Feeling amazing! Cravings are pretty few and far between and my mood continues to improve! Thanks to everyone for sharing their advice and support! Looking forward to my next two weeks, but for now, ODAAT! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: pky1520 on May 24, 2016, 07:18:00 AM
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Two weeks quit today!! Feeling amazing! Cravings are pretty few and far between and my mood continues to improve! Thanks to everyone for sharing their advice and support! Looking forward to my next two weeks, but for now, ODAAT! 'Cheers'
Keep killing it man! There's a lot of focus on those 100 day milestones, but for us, those weeks are a huge achievement; probably something we never thought we could accomplish. And of course the biggest milestone that you face is finishing today tobacco free! 'wave'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 24, 2016, 09:25:00 AM
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Keep killing it man! There's a lot of focus on those 100 day milestones, but for us, those weeks are a huge achievement; probably something we never thought we could accomplish. And of course the biggest milestone that you face is finishing today tobacco free! 'wave'
I definitely don't have any plans on letting up any time soon! It's been so nice not having to deal with such a disgusting addiction. When other quitters talk about this "new found freedom" I'm starting to realize what they are referring to. It's so nice not wasting time dealing with stupid shit like finding a spitter, cleaning out my teeth, etc. Now I can just hop in and out of the car and go! Life is good. Today is a good day! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: Steakbomb18 on May 25, 2016, 09:13:00 PM
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Keep killing it man! There's a lot of focus on those 100 day milestones, but for us, those weeks are a huge achievement; probably something we never thought we could accomplish. And of course the biggest milestone that you face is finishing today tobacco free! 'wave'
I definitely don't have any plans on letting up any time soon! It's been so nice not having to deal with such a disgusting addiction. When other quitters talk about this "new found freedom" I'm starting to realize what they are referring to. It's so nice not wasting time dealing with stupid shit like finding a spitter, cleaning out my teeth, etc. Now I can just hop in and out of the car and go! Life is good. Today is a good day! 'Cheers'
2 weeks in and your already on page 3 of your intro - ...and who the heck is this Steak guy chiming in now? Well, I'm just another quitter who happened to be perusing this stellar intro. Randoms or not-so randoms will read these intros for inspiration, advice, to relate, cope, or for whatever reason. Point is, people are watching and reading some you know and some you don't. Keep it up brother and become a leader. Leaders tend to have quit networks that run extremely deep and the deeper it runs, the stronger your foundation.

Looking forward to seeing where this intro and your quit takes you in the next two weeks. But for now, lets just crush it for tomorrow.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: paul-san on May 26, 2016, 03:36:00 AM
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Keep killing it man! There's a lot of focus on those 100 day milestones, but for us, those weeks are a huge achievement; probably something we never thought we could accomplish. And of course the biggest milestone that you face is finishing today tobacco free! 'wave'
I definitely don't have any plans on letting up any time soon! It's been so nice not having to deal with such a disgusting addiction. When other quitters talk about this "new found freedom" I'm starting to realize what they are referring to. It's so nice not wasting time dealing with stupid shit like finding a spitter, cleaning out my teeth, etc. Now I can just hop in and out of the car and go! Life is good. Today is a good day! 'Cheers'
2 weeks in and your already on page 3 of your intro - ...and who the heck is this Steak guy chiming in now? Well, I'm just another quitter who happened to be perusing this stellar intro. Randoms or not-so randoms will read these intros for inspiration, advice, to relate, cope, or for whatever reason. Point is, people are watching and reading some you know and some you don't. Keep it up brother and become a leader. Leaders tend to have quit networks that run extremely deep and the deeper it runs, the stronger your foundation.

Looking forward to seeing where this intro and your quit takes you in the next two weeks. But for now, lets just crush it for tomorrow.
rwc, agreed with the others. Nice intro and seems like you have a strong quit going. Good on ya! Proud to quit with ya. Eye on the prize of one day at a time!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 26, 2016, 06:25:00 AM
Quote from: paul-san
Quote from: Steakbomb18
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Keep killing it man! There's a lot of focus on those 100 day milestones, but for us, those weeks are a huge achievement; probably something we never thought we could accomplish. And of course the biggest milestone that you face is finishing today tobacco free! 'wave'
I definitely don't have any plans on letting up any time soon! It's been so nice not having to deal with such a disgusting addiction. When other quitters talk about this "new found freedom" I'm starting to realize what they are referring to. It's so nice not wasting time dealing with stupid shit like finding a spitter, cleaning out my teeth, etc. Now I can just hop in and out of the car and go! Life is good. Today is a good day! 'Cheers'
2 weeks in and your already on page 3 of your intro - ...and who the heck is this Steak guy chiming in now? Well, I'm just another quitter who happened to be perusing this stellar intro. Randoms or not-so randoms will read these intros for inspiration, advice, to relate, cope, or for whatever reason. Point is, people are watching and reading some you know and some you don't. Keep it up brother and become a leader. Leaders tend to have quit networks that run extremely deep and the deeper it runs, the stronger your foundation.

Looking forward to seeing where this intro and your quit takes you in the next two weeks. But for now, lets just crush it for tomorrow.
rwc, agreed with the others. Nice intro and seems like you have a strong quit going. Good on ya! Proud to quit with ya. Eye on the prize of one day at a time!
Wow, thanks guys for the kind words! Day 16 and going strong! 14 more days until I tell my wife that I'm 30 days quit!! So happy to not be a slave to the can anymore! Day by day, one day at a time! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 27, 2016, 05:48:00 AM
Well, day 17 quit. It's crazy to think it's been that many days. When I first started my quit, I wasn't even sure I was wanting to quit. I just decided I was tired of buying dip and sneaking around so I said to myself, "maybe I'll make this my last can." That was 17 days ago and my desire to quit has got much stronger since then. I still notice my mood is a little off here and there. I have good days and bad. Last night I snapped at my wife and she asked me why I've been so edgy lately (If you're just now tuning in, I've decided not to tell my wife that I'm quit until I hit my 30 day mark). There's really no other reason not to tell her until then except for the fact that I feel like 30 days quit really makes a statement. Anyways, back to my moodiness. I told her that I've just been really tired lately and that seemed to suffice. So clearly I'm still dealing with mood issues, but nothing too severe.

One of my main concerns was weight gain after quitting. Over the last 7 years I've dropped a total of 128 +/- pounds, so gaining weight was my biggest fear. I'm happy to report that I've actually dropped a few pounds so things are good. I read somewhere online that you shouldn't cut calories while also trying to quit nic because it was too hard. Well my friends, I'm making it work just fine. It all depends on how much you want it and I want it bad! One of my biggest triggers was throwing in a dip after working out. Now, I just reach for those sunflower seeds and I'm all set!

That's pretty much all I have for now. I dread the weekends because posting roll without the wife taking notice as to what I'm doing can be tricky. lol Oh well, it's way better sneaking around to post roll than to dip. However, it will be nice when I can tell her that I'm quit and won't have to post roll from the shitter. Haha!!

Have a great holiday weekend everyone!! ODAAT!! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: stieramus on May 27, 2016, 07:19:00 AM
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Well, day 17 quit. It's crazy to think it's been that many days. When I first started my quit, I wasn't even sure I was wanting to quit. I just decided I was tired of buying dip and sneaking around so I said to myself, "maybe I'll make this my last can." That was 17 days ago and my desire to quit has got much stronger since then. I still notice my mood is a little off here and there. I have good days and bad. Last night I snapped at my wife and she asked me why I've been so edgy lately (If you're just now tuning in, I've decided not to tell my wife that I'm quit until I hit my 30 day mark). There's really no other reason not to tell her until then except for the fact that I feel like 30 days quit really makes a statement. Anyways, back to my moodiness. I told her that I've just been really tired lately and that seemed to suffice. So clearly I'm still dealing with mood issues, but nothing too severe.

One of my main concerns was weight gain after quitting. Over the last 7 years I've dropped a total of 128 +/- pounds, so gaining weight was my biggest fear. I'm happy to report that I've actually dropped a few pounds so things are good. I read somewhere online that you shouldn't cut calories while also trying to quit nic because it was too hard. Well my friends, I'm making it work just fine. It all depends on how much you want it and I want it bad! One of my biggest triggers was throwing in a dip after working out. Now, I just reach for those sunflower seeds and I'm all set!

That's pretty much all I have for now. I dread the weekends because posting roll without the wife taking notice as to what I'm doing can be tricky. lol Oh well, it's way better sneaking around to post roll than to dip. However, it will be nice when I can tell her that I'm quit and won't have to post roll from the shitter. Haha!!

Have a great holiday weekend everyone!! ODAAT!! 'Cheers'
As echoed by all congrats on the quit. Awesome intro. I just wanted to touch in the weight gain aspect. It seem inevitable that a slight weight gain occurs. I think the culprit is that we replace one addiction (dip) with another (food). I know it's going to be a hard pill to swallow but focus mainly on the quitting of dip. It'll kill you faster than a few lbs. with that said there have been a few members recently who could handle multiple changes and succeed. They implemented new workout plans and lost a good bit of weight. It really all depends on the type of person you are. I'd say def focus on the quitting dip and keep an eye on the food. Choose healthy snacks over quick snacks. I was at my heaviest ever in November when I started my journey. Over that time I've managed to drop 30 lbs. Given my past failures I really wanted this quit to last. The lbs were an after thought.

Don't make posting roll a problem with the wife either man. Let her know what you're doing. It's a tool to save your life there should be no shame in using it! The wives seems to be the most supportive in many instances.


Congrats brother, I quit with you.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: worktowin on May 27, 2016, 07:43:00 AM
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Quote from: rwcdrums
Well, day 17 quit. It's crazy to think it's been that many days. When I first started my quit, I wasn't even sure I was wanting to quit. I just decided I was tired of buying dip and sneaking around so I said to myself, "maybe I'll make this my last can." That was 17 days ago and my desire to quit has got much stronger since then. I still notice my mood is a little off here and there. I have good days and bad. Last night I snapped at my wife and she asked me why I've been so edgy lately (If you're just now tuning in, I've decided not to tell my wife that I'm quit until I hit my 30 day mark). There's really no other reason not to tell her until then except for the fact that I feel like 30 days quit really makes a statement. Anyways, back to my moodiness. I told her that I've just been really tired lately and that seemed to suffice. So clearly I'm still dealing with mood issues, but nothing too severe.

One of my main concerns was weight gain after quitting. Over the last 7 years I've dropped a total of 128 +/- pounds, so gaining weight was my biggest fear. I'm happy to report that I've actually dropped a few pounds so things are good. I read somewhere online that you shouldn't cut calories while also trying to quit nic because it was too hard. Well my friends, I'm making it work just fine. It all depends on how much you want it and I want it bad! One of my biggest triggers was throwing in a dip after working out. Now, I just reach for those sunflower seeds and I'm all set!

That's pretty much all I have for now. I dread the weekends because posting roll without the wife taking notice as to what I'm doing can be tricky. lol Oh well, it's way better sneaking around to post roll than to dip. However, it will be nice when I can tell her that I'm quit and won't have to post roll from the shitter. Haha!!

Have a great holiday weekend everyone!! ODAAT!! 'Cheers'
As echoed by all congrats on the quit. Awesome intro. I just wanted to touch in the weight gain aspect. It seem inevitable that a slight weight gain occurs. I think the culprit is that we replace one addiction (dip) with another (food). I know it's going to be a hard pill to swallow but focus mainly on the quitting of dip. It'll kill you faster than a few lbs. with that said there have been a few members recently who could handle multiple changes and succeed. They implemented new workout plans and lost a good bit of weight. It really all depends on the type of person you are. I'd say def focus on the quitting dip and keep an eye on the food. Choose healthy snacks over quick snacks. I was at my heaviest ever in November when I started my journey. Over that time I've managed to drop 30 lbs. Given my past failures I really wanted this quit to last. The lbs were an after thought.

Don't make posting roll a problem with the wife either man. Let her know what you're doing. It's a tool to save your life there should be no shame in using it! The wives seems to be the most supportive in many instances.


Congrats brother, I quit with you.
If you tell her today you will likely have a really good long weekend. Just sayin'.

'do it'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on May 27, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
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Quote from: stieramus
Quote from: rwcdrums
Well, day 17 quit. It's crazy to think it's been that many days. When I first started my quit, I wasn't even sure I was wanting to quit. I just decided I was tired of buying dip and sneaking around so I said to myself, "maybe I'll make this my last can." That was 17 days ago and my desire to quit has got much stronger since then. I still notice my mood is a little off here and there. I have good days and bad. Last night I snapped at my wife and she asked me why I've been so edgy lately (If you're just now tuning in, I've decided not to tell my wife that I'm quit until I hit my 30 day mark). There's really no other reason not to tell her until then except for the fact that I feel like 30 days quit really makes a statement. Anyways, back to my moodiness. I told her that I've just been really tired lately and that seemed to suffice. So clearly I'm still dealing with mood issues, but nothing too severe.

One of my main concerns was weight gain after quitting. Over the last 7 years I've dropped a total of 128 +/- pounds, so gaining weight was my biggest fear. I'm happy to report that I've actually dropped a few pounds so things are good. I read somewhere online that you shouldn't cut calories while also trying to quit nic because it was too hard. Well my friends, I'm making it work just fine. It all depends on how much you want it and I want it bad! One of my biggest triggers was throwing in a dip after working out. Now, I just reach for those sunflower seeds and I'm all set!

That's pretty much all I have for now. I dread the weekends because posting roll without the wife taking notice as to what I'm doing can be tricky. lol Oh well, it's way better sneaking around to post roll than to dip. However, it will be nice when I can tell her that I'm quit and won't have to post roll from the shitter. Haha!!

Have a great holiday weekend everyone!! ODAAT!! 'Cheers'
As echoed by all congrats on the quit. Awesome intro. I just wanted to touch in the weight gain aspect. It seem inevitable that a slight weight gain occurs. I think the culprit is that we replace one addiction (dip) with another (food). I know it's going to be a hard pill to swallow but focus mainly on the quitting of dip. It'll kill you faster than a few lbs. with that said there have been a few members recently who could handle multiple changes and succeed. They implemented new workout plans and lost a good bit of weight. It really all depends on the type of person you are. I'd say def focus on the quitting dip and keep an eye on the food. Choose healthy snacks over quick snacks. I was at my heaviest ever in November when I started my journey. Over that time I've managed to drop 30 lbs. Given my past failures I really wanted this quit to last. The lbs were an after thought.

Don't make posting roll a problem with the wife either man. Let her know what you're doing. It's a tool to save your life there should be no shame in using it! The wives seems to be the most supportive in many instances.


Congrats brother, I quit with you.
If you tell her today you will likely have a really good long weekend. Just sayin'.

'do it'
Good thinking! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: FISHFLORIDA on May 27, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
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Hello everyone. I decided after much back and forth that I would create an account and post here. I decided last Tuesday to give up the can. It wasn't a "hardcore quit" like I see many people post on here. I didn't say "F U" to the can or anything like that, I just said to myself that once I ran out I wouldn't buy any more and see if I can kick this habit. Let me back up and give you a quick rundown of my story.

I started rubbing snuff in 2007 at 25 year old when I moved in with a roommate who was a habitual user. My life was in shambles after all three of my family members were in the ICU that year and I needed a way to "decompress". It started with snuff pouches and eventually led to the loose stuff. I was pretty much a "ninja" user and only a select few individuals knew about it. As the years went on so did the habit. My father passed away in 2008 and my relationship with my fiance at the time was falling apart. She ended up finding out about my habit and scolded me like a dog. This made me feel worthless as a person. Shortly after, we parted ways. Just an FYI, it wasn't the tobacco that ended our relationship.

Anyways, over the years I had really let myself go. I became overweight and my health was now a concern. I decided to start working out and watching my diet. I ended up losing a good amount of weight (80-90lbs) and after a while, started dating again. I decided to set my sights high and go after a particular girl who I was intrigued by. She was someone who I thought of as being "out of my league", but I was so smitten that I didn't even care. I never let on about my tobacco use and I would rub snuff up until the time I picked her up for a date and immediately again after I dropped her back off. One day I had a moment of clarity and decided that if I was going to date a girl of this caliber, she would not be accommodating of my habit. So cold turkey it was. I threw the can out and never looked back. Unfortunately, a few months later, she decided that she wasn't ready for a relationship and we parted ways. We kept in touch here and there, but nothing more than that.

Even though I was upset that we couldn't make it work, I didn't default on my quit (at that point). I had a new found sense of confidence after losing weight and quitting my habit that I decided to make some further life changes. I quit my full-time job and decided to go back to college to finish my degree. This was something I had regretted not doing and it was actually the "out-of-my-league girl" that convinced me to go back. She simply said to me one day, "you should never have any regrets in life". So in January of 2011, I returned to college as a 29 year old student. Things were going well at that point. I was acing all of my classes and still solid in my quit. However, I ended up having to take an overnight security job so that I could attend classes during the day. That meant trying to stay awake all night not only to do my job, but to also work on homework. I was struggling to stay awake and focused all night. I ended up caving when I saw a coworker rubbing chewing tobacco. I thought to myself, "chewing tobacco isn't as strong as snuff so you won't get hooked". At first, I did pretty good with it. I only chewed the nights my coworker and I worked together and it was only once a night. However, one thing led to another and the next thing I know is that I'm buying/rubbing snuff everyday again.

Fast forward a year or so and the "out-of-my league" girl and I start talking again and decided to go out for dinner one night. Things were different this time around and we were both ready for a relationship. I'll save you from all the lovey dovey stuff but fast forward 2-3 later and that girl is now my wife. Things in life are great. I graduated at the top of my class in December of 2014. My wife and I have been married two years in June and I couldn't be happier. What I'm not happy about is that since we've been married I have been in full "ninja" mode. I never stopped rubbing snuff once we moved in together, but it was always behind her back. I literally couldn't wait for her to leave for work in the morning so I could pop in a rub. I found myself timing when she left work so that I could continue to rub up until the very last minute before she pulled into the driveway. I would make excuses to run errands just so I could partake in my filthy habit. At this point in our marriage, she knew that I had rubbed here and there in the past, but never knew is was a habit or that I was currently rubbing every day behind her back.

That was up until about two months ago. One day she came home to find a spitter that I left on the counter. When questioned about it, I came somewhat clean and told that that I sometimes rub snuff. She was actually pretty cool about it and we didn't discuss it anymore that evening. I was always fine with doing it behind her back because I was afraid that if she was ok with it then I would do it more often. Two weeks after getting busted with the spitter we were lying in bed. She turned to me out of nowhere and asked if I rubbed everyday. I hesitated for a moment and then decided to come totally clean. I told her the truth and that I was addicted. Again, she was fairly cool about it but this time she asked me to work on quitting. She said especially if we were going to have kids she wanted me to be around for the long haul. I vowed that I would work on quitting, but didn't really take it to heart. For the next couple of weeks, I still rubbed but I still didn't do it in front of her. I had felt like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders since I came totally clean with her. It was the only secret I kept from her and the cat was now finally out of the bag.

This brings us up to last Tuesday. I actually believe my last rub was on Monday, but we'll go with Tuesday as my official quit day. I apologize this post is so long, but once I started typing it just kinda flowed out of me. She doesn't know that I'm seven days clean and I really don't want to tell her until I'm at least 30 days clean. I just feel like that is more of an accomplishment and something she could take more seriously. I'm still having cravings, but I'm fighting those off with gum, seeds, etc. My main issue is that it used to give me something to look forward to and now I feel like I have nothing. Now, while that's not necessarily true, it does feel like I have an empty void in my life now. Any advice or suggestions are greatly appreciated. I am still working out 5-6 days a week and watching my diet. One of my main fears was weight gain after quitting so I'm trying to closely monitor that. Like I said, I'm new to the site and this is my first post. I apologize if I've done things out of order or broken any rules. Here's to one week clean. 'Cheers'
You got this Brother!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on June 06, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
Haven't posted for a while, so here it goes. Everything is going pretty well. Over Memorial Day weekend I was around dip a good bit. However, not once did I think of caving. Actually, I was surprised. Not because I consider myself weak but because I figured that it might spark a trigger or make me "think" I missed it. However, none of the above. On a darker note, my best friend lost his 3 year old son this past Saturday. My wife and I traveled to see him and it was a very sad and stressful situation for me. Before I would have turned to dip to "de-stress" but I am proud to say that it never crossed my mind. I can't imagine the pain my friend and his wife are going through, but I remain strong in my quit.

I'm now at day 27 and tomorrow marks a full four weeks I've been quit now! Very proud of myself (as well as the rest of you). I really never thought I would get to this point, mainly because when I quit I didn't have a strong desire to. However, as the days ticked away, I found that my desire to quit grew stronger everyday. The positive "side effects" (whiter teeth, fresher breath, not having to "ninja" dip, etc.) have definitely strengthened my quit as well. This Thursday will mark the day that I FINALLY tell my wife about my quit and to proclaim to her that I am 30 days nic free!! I am planning on taking her out for a few drinks to celebrate and I will keep everyone posted with her response.

That's pretty much what's going on for now. Just thought I'd give everyone a little update. You all take care and stay strong! Together we got this!! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: YoYo- on June 06, 2016, 03:13:00 PM
Rwc congrats on quitting. It's astonishing how similar ours and many others stories are on this site. I ninja'd for years as well and would do the exact same things to get a dip. My wife has said for years that she doesn't want kids if I continued.

You're not alone as you know.

My condolences to your friend. I can't imagine the pain.
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on June 09, 2016, 02:37:00 PM
Well today's the day! 30 days quit!! I just texted my wife, "we need to talk tonight". You know, just to fuck with her. Lol It'll be awesome to tell her that I have been nic free for 30 days! However, she'll never be as proud as I am of myself and that's perfectly fine. I did this for ME anyways. Quit on quitters! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: Thumblewort on June 09, 2016, 02:55:00 PM
30 days is bad ass Drums!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on June 09, 2016, 03:10:00 PM
Quote from: Thumblewort
30 days is bad ass Drums!
Hell yeah!! Thanks!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: jswiss11 on June 10, 2016, 10:53:00 AM
how was the 30day reveal with the wife?!!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: FISHFLORIDA on June 11, 2016, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: rwcdrums
Well today's the day! 30 days quit!! I just texted my wife, "we need to talk tonight". You know, just to fuck with her. Lol It'll be awesome to tell her that I have been nic free for 30 days! However, she'll never be as proud as I am of myself and that's perfectly fine. I did this for ME anyways. Quit on quitters! 'Cheers'
I'm proud of you! August is proud of you!!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: worktowin on June 11, 2016, 06:51:00 AM
Quote from: FISHFLORIDA
Quote from: rwcdrums
Well today's the day! 30 days quit!! I just texted my wife, "we need to talk tonight". You know, just to fuck with her. Lol It'll be awesome to tell her that I have been nic free for 30 days! However, she'll never be as proud as I am of myself and that's perfectly fine. I did this for ME anyways. Quit on quitters! 'Cheers'
I'm proud of you! August is proud of you!!
My guess is that you had a really good night.

Congratulations on your first big milestone!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: rwcdrums on June 13, 2016, 01:22:00 PM
Hey guys! Sorry for getting back to you all so late. Busy weekend. Well, the quit reveal went excellent! She was super proud and supportive and it even led to a little hanky panky as well! She asked more about the group and more in-depth questions about my quit (what I thought, how have I been feeling, etc.) She was very happy and proud and thank you all for reading and inquiring about how things went! Really means a lot! Gotta run. Talk soon! 'Cheers'
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: pky1520 on August 17, 2016, 03:48:00 PM
Congrats on your 100 Days RWC! Proud to have done it with you!
Title: Re: New member - 7 days quit today
Post by: jswiss11 on August 18, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
congrats on HOF RWC! glad to be quit with you brother. onwards and upwards to the 2nd floor!!