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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: autiger30 on August 11, 2014, 04:32:00 PM
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Hello, I have dipped on and off for about 8 -10 years, mostly out of boredom and it really helps me focus. I started dipping playing mens softball and I also do web design/IT at a school district and for some reason it helps me concentrate. Any who I usually quit cold turkey and decided yesterday as I emptied my last can of Grizzly WG FC, I'd do it again. Whats really weird is that I don't crave it, actually haven't even thought about it today. One of the coaches at school today was dipping and I thought nothing about it. I saw this add on a game I was playing and I thought I'd get on here to help some folks get thru the battle and give some ideas since it seems like my habit has a bit different circumstance. I hope I can help and glad to say day 1 is in the books for me today.
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Also curious if anyone else is in same boat? Last time I quit I was quit for 2 years, a big project came up and started again, then quit for 1 year maybe a year and a half. Your mind is a powerful thing. But never have I quit and woke up the next day or week or month feigning for a dip.
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Also curious if anyone else is in same boat? Last time I quit I was quit for 2 years, a big project came up and started again, then quit for 1 year maybe a year and a half. Your mind is a powerful thing. But never have I quit and woke up the next day or week or month feigning for a dip.
Those weren't quits those were brief stoppages. We are in the business of quitting here, not taking a 1-2 year sabbatical from nicotine. We are all addicts here and what you described as our brains being powerful things is nicotine addiction. All of our brains have been altered by the years of nicotine abuse.
How we go about quitting is by making a daily promise to not use nicotine. It's the cost of admission. Many of us struggle mightily with this addiction everyday and take it very seriously I'd recommend reading up on the welcome center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) and posting roll with your November group.
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Also curious if anyone else is in same boat? Last time I quit I was quit for 2 years, a big project came up and started again, then quit for 1 year maybe a year and a half. Your mind is a powerful thing. But never have I quit and woke up the next day or week or month feigning for a dip.
'Crazy' If you quit, why the hell are you quitting 'again'? I'll tell you why. You've never quit, you took some breaks. I also took several 2 year pauses but like all addicts, one dip brought me back. We are addicts and always will be. Using nicotine is not a habit!
You might think dipping helped you concentrate or focus but the just not true. As addicts that are doing things without dip our concentration is shared with thoughts of wanting to satisfy our craving. Thus when we feed the crave our concentration is better because there is one less thing to think about. I'm anticipating your come back "I'm different", sorry to tell you until you face the facts this will only be another pause. Jump on this quit train and enjoy a big tall glass of the quit koolaid.
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Also curious if anyone else is in same boat? Last time I quit I was quit for 2 years, a big project came up and started again, then quit for 1 year maybe a year and a half. Your mind is a powerful thing. But never have I quit and woke up the next day or week or month feigning for a dip.
'Crazy' If you quit, why the hell are you quitting 'again'? I'll tell you why. You've never quit, you took some breaks. I also took several 2 year pauses but like all addicts, one dip brought me back. We are addicts and always will be. Using nicotine is not a habit!
You might think dipping helped you concentrate or focus but the just not true. As addicts that are doing things without dip our concentration is shared with thoughts of wanting to satisfy our craving. Thus when we feed the crave our concentration is better because there is one less thing to think about. I'm anticipating your come back "I'm different", sorry to tell you until you face the facts this will only be another pause. Jump on this quit train and enjoy a big tall glass of the quit koolaid.
I understand what you say, but can you explain why I don't "have to have it"?
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Also curious if anyone else is in same boat? Last time I quit I was quit for 2 years, a big project came up and started again, then quit for 1 year maybe a year and a half. Your mind is a powerful thing. But never have I quit and woke up the next day or week or month feigning for a dip.
'Crazy' If you quit, why the hell are you quitting 'again'? I'll tell you why. You've never quit, you took some breaks. I also took several 2 year pauses but like all addicts, one dip brought me back. We are addicts and always will be. Using nicotine is not a habit!
You might think dipping helped you concentrate or focus but the just not true. As addicts that are doing things without dip our concentration is shared with thoughts of wanting to satisfy our craving. Thus when we feed the crave our concentration is better because there is one less thing to think about. I'm anticipating your come back "I'm different", sorry to tell you until you face the facts this will only be another pause. Jump on this quit train and enjoy a big tall glass of the quit koolaid.
I understand what you say, but can you explain why I don't "have to have it"?
No one has to have it. All of our brains work differently. If you can stop for 1-2 years then quitting everyday shouldn't be too difficult for you. Embrace it because it's not that easy for everyone.
Don't wait until you have some funky shit going on in your mouth and you have to have it looked at by a doctor. Stay quit.
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it seems like my habit has a bit different circumstance
Well it doesn't.
and it us not a habit. Scratchng your ass in public is a habit.
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Also curious if anyone else is in same boat? Last time I quit I was quit for 2 years, a big project came up and started again, then quit for 1 year maybe a year and a half. Your mind is a powerful thing. But never have I quit and woke up the next day or week or month feigning for a dip.
'Crazy' If you quit, why the hell are you quitting 'again'? I'll tell you why. You've never quit, you took some breaks. I also took several 2 year pauses but like all addicts, one dip brought me back. We are addicts and always will be. Using nicotine is not a habit!
You might think dipping helped you concentrate or focus but the just not true. As addicts that are doing things without dip our concentration is shared with thoughts of wanting to satisfy our craving. Thus when we feed the crave our concentration is better because there is one less thing to think about. I'm anticipating your come back "I'm different", sorry to tell you until you face the facts this will only be another pause. Jump on this quit train and enjoy a big tall glass of the quit koolaid.
I understand what you say, but can you explain why I don't "have to have it"?
No one has to have it. All of our brains work differently. If you can stop for 1-2 years then quitting everyday shouldn't be too difficult for you. Embrace it because it's not that easy for everyone.
Thanks!
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hab·it
ˈhabit/
noun
noun: habit; plural noun: habits
1.
a settled or regular tendency or practice, especially one that is hard to give up.
"this can develop into a bad habit"
synonyms:custom, practice, routine, wont, pattern, convention, way, norm, tradition, matter of course, rule, usage More
informal
an addictive practice, especially one of taking drugs.
"a cocaine habit"
synonyms:addiction, dependence, dependency, craving, fixation, compulsion, obsession, weakness;
**Scrathing my ass in public is not a habit**
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it seems like my habit has a bit different circumstance
Well it doesn't.
and it us not a habit. Scratchng your ass in public is a habit.
LOL See previous post on the definition of habit.
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.....paging duathman. Clean up on the barner aisle. 'help'
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Also curious if anyone else is in same boat? Last time I quit I was quit for 2 years, a big project came up and started again, then quit for 1 year maybe a year and a half. Your mind is a powerful thing. But never have I quit and woke up the next day or week or month feigning for a dip.
'Crazy' If you quit, why the hell are you quitting 'again'? I'll tell you why. You've never quit, you took some breaks. I also took several 2 year pauses but like all addicts, one dip brought me back. We are addicts and always will be. Using nicotine is not a habit!
You might think dipping helped you concentrate or focus but the just not true. As addicts that are doing things without dip our concentration is shared with thoughts of wanting to satisfy our craving. Thus when we feed the crave our concentration is better because there is one less thing to think about. I'm anticipating your come back "I'm different", sorry to tell you until you face the facts this will only be another pause. Jump on this quit train and enjoy a big tall glass of the quit koolaid.
I understand what you say, but can you explain why I don't "have to have it"?
No one has to have it. All of our brains work differently. If you can stop for 1-2 years then quitting everyday shouldn't be too difficult for you. Embrace it because it's not that easy for everyone.
Don't wait until you have some funky shit going on in your mouth and you have to have it looked at by a doctor. Stay quit.
Here are two facts you need to face:
1) you're an addict. (that's okay...we all are).
2) it didn't help you concentrate. The withdrawals were distracting you. You took a drug to make them go away. (that's okay...we all did).
You can argue it was "just a habit" or that you "just liked the routine" blah, blah, blah. But remember...you're among friends here...friends who know addiction. You can't bullshit us. We see it a mile away. Remember to revisit this thread. In time, you'll see it too.
Learn how and why we post roll. Then do it. Then keep reading.
You can do this, brother!
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Also curious if anyone else is in same boat? Last time I quit I was quit for 2 years, a big project came up and started again, then quit for 1 year maybe a year and a half. Your mind is a powerful thing. But never have I quit and woke up the next day or week or month feigning for a dip.
'Crazy' If you quit, why the hell are you quitting 'again'? I'll tell you why. You've never quit, you took some breaks. I also took several 2 year pauses but like all addicts, one dip brought me back. We are addicts and always will be. Using nicotine is not a habit!
You might think dipping helped you concentrate or focus but the just not true. As addicts that are doing things without dip our concentration is shared with thoughts of wanting to satisfy our craving. Thus when we feed the crave our concentration is better because there is one less thing to think about. I'm anticipating your come back "I'm different", sorry to tell you until you face the facts this will only be another pause. Jump on this quit train and enjoy a big tall glass of the quit koolaid.
I understand what you say, but can you explain why I don't "have to have it"?
No one has to have it. All of our brains work differently. If you can stop for 1-2 years then quitting everyday shouldn't be too difficult for you. Embrace it because it's not that easy for everyone.
Don't wait until you have some funky shit going on in your mouth and you have to have it looked at by a doctor. Stay quit.
Here are two facts you need to face:
1) you're an addict. (that's okay...we all are).
2) it didn't help you concentrate. The withdrawals were distracting you. You took a drug to make them go away. (that's okay...we all did).
You can argue it was "just a habit" or that you "just liked the routine" blah, blah, blah. But remember...you're among friends here...friends who know addiction. You can't bullshit us. We see it a mile away. Remember to revisit this thread. In time, you'll see it too.
Learn how and why we post roll. Then do it. Then keep reading.
You can do this, brother!
Thanks man, I understand what your saying, not here to argue but here to stay quit. Like what someone said earlier I should be careful it is easier for me to quit. There were times within this past year I would go weeks without it and not even think about it and then one day get some. When I look at the posts and see folks saying they dipped a can a day or so many a week and constantly had it in there mouth, that wasn't me. I am here like I said to help other and to be held accountable that I don't put that SHIT back into my mouth. I'd like to kiss my daughter when I give her away one day. Thanks for the help.
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it seems like my habit has a bit different circumstance
Well it doesn't.
and it us not a habit. Scratchng your ass in public is a habit.
LOL See previous post on the definition of habit.
**Scrathing my ass in public is not a habit**
Actually Webster if you do it all the time and it becomes a "routine, pattern, way, norm, tradition, or matter of course" it is.......
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it seems like my habit has a bit different circumstance
Well it doesn't.
and it us not a habit. Scratchng your ass in public is a habit.
LOL See previous post on the definition of habit.
**Scrathing my ass in public is not a habit**
Actually Webster if you do it all the time and it becomes a "routine, pattern, way, norm, tradition, or matter of course" it is.......
Your first reading assignment: http://www.killthecan.org/additional-re ... addiction/ (http://www.killthecan.org/additional-resources/the-law-of-addiction/)
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hab·it
ˈhabit/
noun
noun: habit; plural noun: habits
1.
a settled or regular tendency or practice, especially one that is hard to give up.
"this can develop into a bad habit"
synonyms:custom, practice, routine, wont, pattern, convention, way, norm, tradition, matter of course, rule, usage More
informal
an addictive practice, especially one of taking drugs.
"a cocaine habit"
synonyms:addiction, dependence, dependency, craving, fixation, compulsion, obsession, weakness;
**Scrathing my ass in public is not a habit**
I'd like you to read the line which has synonyms. What is the first one there? Addiction. A habit and an addiction are essentially the same so don't cover up the truth by using a word that sounds a little better. I hope you accept the fact that you have been an addict of tobacco because until you can admit that you are you set yourself up for failure through addict thinking. One won't hurt and boom back to the can. Don't think you know it all and are a bad ass quitter because you've taken breaks not truly quit. We are a brotherhood on here and we take this quitting very seriously. If you can quit easily great for you but I hope you don't mask it as a habit this time and learn about tobacco and how it controls your thought process and your life. Get plugged in with your quit group and post roll every day because that's what makes the difference in quitting and taking a break, accountability. Take your freedom back today
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Where you at on roll bro? Haven't seen your post yet. Let's get on that. Don't put it off until later. It needs to be the first thing you do. If you're having troubles, please don't hesitate to contact me or any of the other members on SCQ. We're all willing to help. I hope you are still quit today.