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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Robcat on February 01, 2017, 08:18:00 PM
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This is day 5 for me. I did the weaning method. Couple weeks at half and half. Couple weeks at 1/4 to 3/4. Then just pure fake stuff. Oddly enough, it wasn't all that hard. Problem now is the nicotine is out of my system so I apparantly have an extreme mental addiction. 30 years of Copenhagen and never quit before.
I'm pretty content with using fake stuff, but I guess my question is -should I be? I went the last 2 days without the fake stuff and those two days were way worse than the first 3 days. I'm afraid at this point I will be addicted to even the fake stuff forever.
Anyone else run into this scenario.
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Hey Rob,
I'm not sure about your question on the fake stuff. I dipped for 11 years, and when I quit, I went to sunflower seeds and tons of chewing gum. Lots of guys around here use the fake stuff, and it seems to work alright for them. If you think it would be a trigger to potentially start again, I would lay off it if I was you.
Around here, people post their promise everyday. That's the one thing that has worked for me in my numerous attempts at quitting over the years. Wake up, find your quit group (May - topic/30137057/109/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30137057/109/)), post your promise not to use nicotine there, and repeat every damn morning.
I wish you the best of quits.
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This is day 5 for me. I did the weaning method. Couple weeks at half and half. Couple weeks at 1/4 to 3/4. Then just pure fake stuff. Oddly enough, it wasn't all that hard. Problem now is the nicotine is out of my system so I apparantly have an extreme mental addiction. 30 years of Copenhagen and never quit before.
I'm pretty content with using fake stuff, but I guess my question is -should I be? I went the last 2 days without the fake stuff and those two days were way worse than the first 3 days. I'm afraid at this point I will be addicted to even the fake stuff forever.
Anyone else run into this scenario.
Hey Robcat,
I decided against the fake stuff. I just thought, after 35 years, I needed to break the chain of putting something in my lip.
But that's just me. Everybody's different.
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This is day 5 for me. I did the weaning method. Couple weeks at half and half. Couple weeks at 1/4 to 3/4. Then just pure fake stuff. Oddly enough, it wasn't all that hard. Problem now is the nicotine is out of my system so I apparantly have an extreme mental addiction. 30 years of Copenhagen and never quit before.
I'm pretty content with using fake stuff, but I guess my question is -should I be? I went the last 2 days without the fake stuff and those two days were way worse than the first 3 days. I'm afraid at this point I will be addicted to even the fake stuff forever.
Anyone else run into this scenario.
Hey Robcat,
I decided against the fake stuff. I just thought, after 35 years, I needed to break the chain of putting something in my lip.
But that's just me. Everybody's different.
i dipped over twenty years the fake stuff definitely helped i felt that i needed it and then all by itself the need for it goes away i probably used the fake stuff for less than a month
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This is day 5 for me. I did the weaning method. Couple weeks at half and half. Couple weeks at 1/4 to 3/4. Then just pure fake stuff. Oddly enough, it wasn't all that hard. Problem now is the nicotine is out of my system so I apparantly have an extreme mental addiction. 30 years of Copenhagen and never quit before.
I'm pretty content with using fake stuff, but I guess my question is -should I be? I went the last 2 days without the fake stuff and those two days were way worse than the first 3 days. I'm afraid at this point I will be addicted to even the fake stuff forever.
Anyone else run into this scenario.
Hey Robcat,
I decided against the fake stuff. I just thought, after 35 years, I needed to break the chain of putting something in my lip.
But that's just me. Everybody's different.
i dipped over twenty years the fake stuff definitely helped i felt that i needed it and then all by itself the need for it goes away i probably used the fake stuff for less than a month
Hey man.
Nothing extreme about your addiction. It's called withdrawal. You're right that it generally takes 3-7 days for the poison to leave your system. During that time, your body throws fits and wants you to furnish more poison. Once the poison is out of your system, you begin healing. You aren't healed. It's not all rainbows and unicorns. You start healing.
Please don't think that cured or you're more of an addict than any of us. You're an addict like us. We don't quit forever and we know that quitting lasts longer than 3 or 4 days. We quit one day at a time and even one minute at a time if we need to. It's fucking badass that you made it to five days but let's keep doing this together man.
We got your back.
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Don't think I'm cured by any means. If I gave off that impression it was by mistake.
I'm honestly just a little bothered by the relief I get from using the fake stuff. Not trying to sound like an asshole, but I can get through the day using the fake stuff. Without it it gets pretty damn dicey!!!
I think I'm okay physically at this point, but mentally I'm a mess. Just don't know if it is a good idea to feed the mental addiction by using the fake stuff or break it off now as well.
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Don't think I'm cured by any means. If I gave off that impression it was by mistake.
I'm honestly just a little bothered by the relief I get from using the fake stuff. Not trying to sound like an asshole, but I can get through the day using the fake stuff. Without it it gets pretty damn dicey!!!
I think I'm okay physically at this point, but mentally I'm a mess. Just don't know if it is a good idea to feed the mental addiction by using the fake stuff or break it off now as well.
Here's the bottom line... whatever non-nicotine method keeps you Quit is 100% ok.
This is a process and you're just starting it. Creating a new "normal" is definitely NOT normal. Your brain has to rewire 30 years of addiction and habit.
It doesn't happen right away.
Every advocate of fake will tell you that the need eventually just fades. As your coping toolbox becomes more equipped....the easier this will become.
Do yourself a HUUUUGE favor... to take this to the next level, get involved here. Join your Quit Group. Post and Promise daily to Quit each day. It works, man. I chewed for 25 years and 2 cans a day for a good chunk of it. Today?... 1,388 days Quit.
You can do this...
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Don't think I'm cured by any means. If I gave off that impression it was by mistake.
I'm honestly just a little bothered by the relief I get from using the fake stuff. Not trying to sound like an asshole, but I can get through the day using the fake stuff. Without it it gets pretty damn dicey!!!
I think I'm okay physically at this point, but mentally I'm a mess. Just don't know if it is a good idea to feed the mental addiction by using the fake stuff or break it off now as well.
Here's the bottom line... whatever non-nicotine method keeps you Quit is 100% ok.
This is a process and you're just starting it. Creating a new "normal" is definitely NOT normal. Your brain has to rewire 30 years of addiction and habit.
It doesn't happen right away.
Every advocate of fake will tell you that the need eventually just fades. As your coping toolbox becomes more equipped....the easier this will become.
Do yourself a HUUUUGE favor... to take this to the next level, get involved here. Join your Quit Group. Post and Promise daily to Quit each day. It works, man. I chewed for 25 years and 2 cans a day for a good chunk of it. Today?... 1,388 days Quit.
You can do this...
I can only tell you that I would not be quit still if I had not bought into this brotherhood and system.
That system is built on joining your quit group, posting roll everyday, learning all about our addiction so you have the knowledge to defeat it, and making a shitload of friends you can lean on. You have to want this more than anything. Its the toughest and most rewarding thing I've ever done.
Once again....Join your group and post roll. Its the only thing that finally worked for me. And yes....If I could do it....you can too!
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^^^ I second with all those folks and I will add this. You are trying to stop an addiction and a routine activity that you have been doing for 30 years. Pace yourself.
I am 901 days quit, it took a long time before my head and anxiety got straightened out.
Use fake, and say after 300 days revisit the use.
And post roll!
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Hey Robcat, I joined a few days ago. I am using fake dip, seeds, gum, lemon drops, root beer barrels, bit-o-honey, you name it.
I understand what you mean when you say it feels like cheating. I had a non-dipper coworker put some fake in to see if it had any nic in it... lol
I couldn't believe that the feeling of having that in my lip helps so much. Point is, I don't give a crap. I want to be free from the nic bitch and I am reading, trusting what I read - that whatever it takes now to not put that shit in my mouth will subside as the oral fixation is its own problem. Post roll with me.
Quitters never quit.
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Hey Robcat, I joined a few days ago. I am using fake dip, seeds, gum, lemon drops, root beer barrels, bit-o-honey, you name it.
I understand what you mean when you say it feels like cheating. I had a non-dipper coworker put some fake in to see if it had any nic in it... lol
I couldn't believe that the feeling of having that in my lip helps so much. Point is, I don't give a crap. I want to be free from the nic bitch and I am reading, trusting what I read - that whatever it takes now to not put that shit in my mouth will subside as the oral fixation is its own problem. Post roll with me.
Quitters never quit.
Exactly!!! I guess I should consider myself blessed to get such peace from using the fake stuff. I've been doing a lot of searching threads and most opinions are to use the fake stuff as much as needed and eventually you just lose interest. Sounds like a plan to me.
Everybody's posts are very helpful.
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Hey Robcat, I joined a few days ago. I am using fake dip, seeds, gum, lemon drops, root beer barrels, bit-o-honey, you name it.
I understand what you mean when you say it feels like cheating. I had a non-dipper coworker put some fake in to see if it had any nic in it... lol
I couldn't believe that the feeling of having that in my lip helps so much. Point is, I don't give a crap. I want to be free from the nic bitch and I am reading, trusting what I read - that whatever it takes now to not put that shit in my mouth will subside as the oral fixation is its own problem. Post roll with me.
Quitters never quit.
Exactly!!! I guess I should consider myself blessed to get such peace from using the fake stuff. I've been doing a lot of searching threads and most opinions are to use the fake stuff as much as needed and eventually you just lose interest. Sounds like a plan to me.
Everybody's posts are very helpful.
Robcat,
Pretty young in my quit comparted to lots of these guys. I"m typing this back to you with my lip packed full of fake. Some days I don't even think about it but some days I think I have more fake packed in my lip than I had tobacco.
A couple of big differences that I see.
1. Fake stuff isn't going to kill me like i know nicotine eventually will.
2. As part of this site (Check out your quit group) I have posted roll "my word" not to use nicotine.I'm good with putting cut up glass, burning rubber, maggots.... in my mouth but I WILL not use nicotine today.
Your integrity, your quit brothers and you ever growing confidence in your quit will enable you to be successful.
Like a previous poster stated. Priority 1 is stay off the nicotine. Revisit later once you start to settle into the system and get some support and a little confidence going. It's a cumulative process but it has it's ups and downs like most things.
Let me know if you need any info or support on committing and posting roll with your group if that's where you're going with this.
I'll be proud to quit with you once you commit to quitting.
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Robcat,
Firstly, welcome to the Fraternity. I'm Jim; nicotine-clean since 11/11/2016.
Now, on to your quit. I understand that others get success from using fake dip. Personally, I see no need for it. Is fake dip injurious to health? We don't know that one way or the other. Since I don't want to be a guinea pig, I'll lay off the fake dip. Did you know that all plant material contains carcinogens? It's not just tobacco. Is that coffee dip giving you cancer? We don't know; there aren't enough people dipping coffee for us to study.
It's my personal opinion that everything dip-related has to go. You don't need any of that; you want it. Two different things.
I believe a quit has to be no compromise in order to be a true quit. No compromise with the Nicodemon. No fake stuff. Nothing. Just dump all dip and move on. Stay away for life, one now at a time. I found success in distilling the One Day At A Time (ODAAT) concept down to the infinitely short length of time called 'now'. It was now when I wrote this; it'll be now when you read this. So I never use nicotine now. Later, maybe...but not now. Hence, my mantra - Never Nicotine Now - which I use whenever I get a crave. NNN!
That's it for now. I hope to hear from you again. Are you posting roll? Your group is here: topic/30137057/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30137057/1/) You would do well to bookmark that.
Fraternally,
Jim H.
February 2017 Cult of Quit.
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Robcat,
Firstly, welcome to the Fraternity. I'm Jim; nicotine-clean since 11/11/2016.
Now, on to your quit. I understand that others get success from using fake dip. Personally, I see no need for it. Is fake dip injurious to health? We don't know that one way or the other. Since I don't want to be a guinea pig, I'll lay off the fake dip. Did you know that all plant material contains carcinogens? It's not just tobacco. Is that coffee dip giving you cancer? We don't know; there aren't enough people dipping coffee for us to study.
It's my personal opinion that everything dip-related has to go. You don't need any of that; you want it. Two different things.
I believe a quit has to be no compromise in order to be a true quit. No compromise with the Nicodemon. No fake stuff. Nothing. Just dump all dip and move on. Stay away for life, one now at a time. I found success in distilling the One Day At A Time (ODAAT) concept down to the infinitely short length of time called 'now'. It was now when I wrote this; it'll be now when you read this. So I never use nicotine now. Later, maybe...but not now. Hence, my mantra - Never Nicotine Now - which I use whenever I get a crave. NNN!
That's it for now. I hope to hear from you again. Are you posting roll? Your group is here: topic/30137057/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30137057/1/) You would do well to bookmark that.
Fraternally,
Jim H.
February 2017 Cult of Quit.
And that's ^^^ the beauty of this place. Everyone can voice an opinion.
We don't HAVE to see eye to eye. I went full on cold turkey Quit myself... no fake... no substitutes. However... that's what "I" needed to do. Everyone is different.
True Quit is no nicotine... fake or no fake... there is no "better level of Quit".
You do what you need to do.
And to that end... the price of admission here is being a part of a Quit Group and posting roll daily.
You gonna jump in, bro?
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Robcat,
Firstly, welcome to the Fraternity. I'm Jim; nicotine-clean since 11/11/2016.
Now, on to your quit. I understand that others get success from using fake dip. Personally, I see no need for it. Is fake dip injurious to health? We don't know that one way or the other. Since I don't want to be a guinea pig, I'll lay off the fake dip. Did you know that all plant material contains carcinogens? It's not just tobacco. Is that coffee dip giving you cancer? We don't know; there aren't enough people dipping coffee for us to study.
It's my personal opinion that everything dip-related has to go. You don't need any of that; you want it. Two different things.
I believe a quit has to be no compromise in order to be a true quit. No compromise with the Nicodemon. No fake stuff. Nothing. Just dump all dip and move on. Stay away for life, one now at a time. I found success in distilling the One Day At A Time (ODAAT) concept down to the infinitely short length of time called 'now'. It was now when I wrote this; it'll be now when you read this. So I never use nicotine now. Later, maybe...but not now. Hence, my mantra - Never Nicotine Now - which I use whenever I get a crave. NNN!
That's it for now. I hope to hear from you again. Are you posting roll? Your group is here: topic/30137057/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30137057/1/) You would do well to bookmark that.
Fraternally,
Jim H.
February 2017 Cult of Quit.
And that's ^^^ the beauty of this place. Everyone can voice an opinion.
We don't HAVE to see eye to eye. I went full on cold turkey Quit myself... no fake... no substitutes. However... that's what "I" needed to do. Everyone is different.
True Quit is no nicotine... fake or no fake... there is no "better level of Quit".
You do what you need to do.
And to that end... the price of admission here is being a part of a Quit Group and posting roll daily.
You gonna jump in, bro?
AppleJack.
It appears we are in complete accord on this matter...and with 83 days clean, it should be obvious that I am already in.
Peace.
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Robcat,
Firstly, welcome to the Fraternity. I'm Jim; nicotine-clean since 11/11/2016.
Now, on to your quit. I understand that others get success from using fake dip. Personally, I see no need for it. Is fake dip injurious to health? We don't know that one way or the other. Since I don't want to be a guinea pig, I'll lay off the fake dip. Did you know that all plant material contains carcinogens? It's not just tobacco. Is that coffee dip giving you cancer? We don't know; there aren't enough people dipping coffee for us to study.
It's my personal opinion that everything dip-related has to go. You don't need any of that; you want it. Two different things.
I believe a quit has to be no compromise in order to be a true quit. No compromise with the Nicodemon. No fake stuff. Nothing. Just dump all dip and move on. Stay away for life, one now at a time. I found success in distilling the One Day At A Time (ODAAT) concept down to the infinitely short length of time called 'now'. It was now when I wrote this; it'll be now when you read this. So I never use nicotine now. Later, maybe...but not now. Hence, my mantra - Never Nicotine Now - which I use whenever I get a crave. NNN!
That's it for now. I hope to hear from you again. Are you posting roll? Your group is here: topic/30137057/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30137057/1/) You would do well to bookmark that.
Fraternally,
Jim H.
February 2017 Cult of Quit.
And that's ^^^ the beauty of this place. Everyone can voice an opinion.
We don't HAVE to see eye to eye. I went full on cold turkey Quit myself... no fake... no substitutes. However... that's what "I" needed to do. Everyone is different.
True Quit is no nicotine... fake or no fake... there is no "better level of Quit".
You do what you need to do.
And to that end... the price of admission here is being a part of a Quit Group and posting roll daily.
You gonna jump in, bro?
AppleJack.
It appears we are in complete accord on this matter...and with 83 days clean, it should be obvious that I am already in.
Peace.
You misunderstand... none of my response was for you.
It was for the benefit of the author of this intro.
'Grats on day 83, btw!
Robcat... ball is in your court.
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
WTF are you talking about. Seriously!
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
Never mind. I get it. Obviously not in the mood for it, but I feel you.
Look, I quit for me. Not anyone else. I quit because I wanted to. The only person I am concerned about letting down is me and it's not gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure I can do it however I want to and exactly what the hell does doing it the KTC way mean. Is there one singular magic way that KTC mandates. I will use this site however the hell I need to to get what I need from it.
I really don't need your bullying tactics to get me to do it your way. Worked for you - fantastic! Doesn't mean it's the way for me.
Again, I get it, and I'm sure you mean well and are generally wanting others to succeed, but you're just really irritating at this point in MY quit.
Day 10. Haven't posted roll. Not apologizing for it. Doing great!!
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
Never mind. I get it. Obviously not in the mood for it, but I feel you.
Look, I quit for me. Not anyone else. I quit because I wanted to. The only person I am concerned about letting down is me and it's not gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure I can do it however I want to and exactly what the hell does doing it the KTC way mean. Is there one singular magic way that KTC mandates. I will use this site however the hell I need to to get what I need from it.
I really don't need your bullying tactics to get me to do it your way. Worked for you - fantastic! Doesn't mean it's the way for me.
Again, I get it, and I'm sure you mean well and are generally wanting others to succeed, but you're just really irritating at this point in MY quit.
Day 10. Haven't posted roll. Not apologizing for it. Doing great!!
I posted roll, and you can fuck off. Special butterflies can kiss my ass, I got real quitters to support.
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Robcat, while the tactfullness may not be what you want at this particular point, the KTC way is posting a promise every day for accountability. Is it the only way to quit? No. But it has proven to be a lifesaver for thousands of people. Take what you need and leave the rest. If you aren't gonna jump in to a quit group then I wish you the best in your quit and I truly hope your way works for you. The hostility you may feel is "annoying" is because time and time again guys have come in here, said "f the way y'all do it", and later fell off the wagon.
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Let me get this right. You tried to quit on your own, didn't work, so you look up on the internet a way to quit. You log into KTC for help and then give the finger to very method you were seeking?
That's just flat out fucked up logic. KTC is a life saver if you let it be.
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I don't understand why you joined if you want to do this by yourself. This site is for Quitters who want support,accountability, and brotherhood. Every one of us has tried alone, and failed.
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
Never mind. I get it. Obviously not in the mood for it, but I feel you.
Look, I quit for me. Not anyone else. I quit because I wanted to. The only person I am concerned about letting down is me and it's not gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure I can do it however I want to and exactly what the hell does doing it the KTC way mean. Is there one singular magic way that KTC mandates. I will use this site however the hell I need to to get what I need from it.
I really don't need your bullying tactics to get me to do it your way. Worked for you - fantastic! Doesn't mean it's the way for me.
Again, I get it, and I'm sure you mean well and are generally wanting others to succeed, but you're just really irritating at this point in MY quit.
Day 10. Haven't posted roll. Not apologizing for it. Doing great!!
I posted roll, and you can fuck off. Special butterflies can kiss my ass, I got real quitters to support.
You can do whatever you need to. You can fuck off as well.
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Let me get this right. You tried to quit on your own, didn't work, so you look up on the internet a way to quit. You log into KTC for help and then give the finger to very method you were seeking?
That's just flat out fucked up logic. KTC is a life saver if you let it be.
Let me get this right. You make assumptions and you're wrong. Great job!
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Robcat, while the tactfullness may not be what you want at this particular point, the KTC way is posting a promise every day for accountability. Is it the only way to quit? No. But it has proven to be a lifesaver for thousands of people. Take what you need and leave the rest. If you aren't gonna jump in to a quit group then I wish you the best in your quit and I truly hope your way works for you. The hostility you may feel is "annoying" is because time and time again guys have come in here, said "f the way y'all do it", and later fell off the wagon.
Awesome. Thank you for you're sensible and useful post. Very well put. I have no problem with posting roll. Just not a fan of being bullied into it because it's apparantly what others think is THE only option. I'm sure it does help.
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I don't understand why you joined if you want to do this by yourself. This site is for Quitters who want support,accountability, and brotherhood. Every one of us has tried alone, and failed.
I joined to read what others have gone through to make some sense of it all and just maybe come to terms with what I'm feeling. Support doesn't come in the form of badgering and smart ass replies because I like to do things in a different way. Sorry, just rubs me the wrong way, didn't care for it, and responded.
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
Never mind. I get it. Obviously not in the mood for it, but I feel you.
Look, I quit for me. Not anyone else. I quit because I wanted to. The only person I am concerned about letting down is me and it's not gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure I can do it however I want to and exactly what the hell does doing it the KTC way mean. Is there one singular magic way that KTC mandates. I will use this site however the hell I need to to get what I need from it.
I really don't need your bullying tactics to get me to do it your way. Worked for you - fantastic! Doesn't mean it's the way for me.
Again, I get it, and I'm sure you mean well and are generally wanting others to succeed, but you're just really irritating at this point in MY quit.
Day 10. Haven't posted roll. Not apologizing for it. Doing great!!
I posted roll, and you can fuck off. Special butterflies can kiss my ass, I got real quitters to support.
You can do whatever you need to. You can fuck off as well.
Why wouldn't you want the help/support from people who are successful, every damn day, at what you're "trying to do" again?
Instead of coming into OUR house and being a belligerent butt... try being respectful. Open yourself to learning something. Our method works... our community works... why else are you even here if not for the fact that we're the best around?
The price of admission is roll call in a quit group.
Take advantage of all that simple action offers or... GTFO.
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
Never mind. I get it. Obviously not in the mood for it, but I feel you.
Look, I quit for me. Not anyone else. I quit because I wanted to. The only person I am concerned about letting down is me and it's not gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure I can do it however I want to and exactly what the hell does doing it the KTC way mean. Is there one singular magic way that KTC mandates. I will use this site however the hell I need to to get what I need from it.
I really don't need your bullying tactics to get me to do it your way. Worked for you - fantastic! Doesn't mean it's the way for me.
Again, I get it, and I'm sure you mean well and are generally wanting others to succeed, but you're just really irritating at this point in MY quit.
Day 10. Haven't posted roll. Not apologizing for it. Doing great!!
I posted roll, and you can fuck off. Special butterflies can kiss my ass, I got real quitters to support.
You can do whatever you need to. You can fuck off as well.
Why wouldn't you want the help/support from people who are successful, every damn day, at what you're "trying to do" again?
Instead of coming into OUR house and being a belligerent butt... try being respectful. Open yourself to learning something. Our method works... our community works... why else are you even here if not for the fact that we're the best around?
The price of admission is roll call in a quit group.
Take advantage of all that simple action offers or... GTFO.
You started this. It was your original post that set me off. If that was meant to be supportive you are a little bit warped. And you want to talk to me about being respectful. Really!
I don't remember seeing that admission fee listed when I joined this site. Is that your rules?
I'm pretty sure I don't want or welcome your help apple jack. Everyone else has been great or at least sensible.
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Robcat,
I was pretty pissed off with everything at your point. Not like I'm any kind of expert, only 5 weeks in. I still get pissed off all the time. Everything sucks and I'm tired of just about everything. I hope you stay quit. I'm rooting for you.
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I joined this site because the appeal of being with others who are going through what I am, at the exact same time seemed to be a good deal. It seems like you are in the same boat. The only difference is something is holding you back if you don't make that simple choice in the morning after you wake up, or get to work, or whatever. That first craving hits and it is a choice. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, OR PRETEND IT ISN'T THERE. For me, posting roll is a way to do something about it. Giving that nic bitch one good 'Finger' first thing in the morning. Sets me for a good track on the day.
If you want to watch and read, then do that. We are all pissed at things around here. Fuck you, Fuck me, whatever. You aren't the only one dealing with this shit.
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
Never mind. I get it. Obviously not in the mood for it, but I feel you.
Look, I quit for me. Not anyone else. I quit because I wanted to. The only person I am concerned about letting down is me and it's not gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure I can do it however I want to and exactly what the hell does doing it the KTC way mean. Is there one singular magic way that KTC mandates. I will use this site however the hell I need to to get what I need from it.
I really don't need your bullying tactics to get me to do it your way. Worked for you - fantastic! Doesn't mean it's the way for me.
Again, I get it, and I'm sure you mean well and are generally wanting others to succeed, but you're just really irritating at this point in MY quit.
Day 10. Haven't posted roll. Not apologizing for it. Doing great!!
I posted roll, and you can fuck off. Special butterflies can kiss my ass, I got real quitters to support.
You can do whatever you need to. You can fuck off as well.
Why wouldn't you want the help/support from people who are successful, every damn day, at what you're "trying to do" again?
Instead of coming into OUR house and being a belligerent butt... try being respectful. Open yourself to learning something. Our method works... our community works... why else are you even here if not for the fact that we're the best around?
The price of admission is roll call in a quit group.
Take advantage of all that simple action offers or... GTFO.
You started this. It was your original post that set me off. If that was meant to be supportive you are a little bit warped. And you want to talk to me about being respectful. Really!
I don't remember seeing that admission fee listed when I joined this site. Is that your rules?
I'm pretty sure I don't want or welcome your help apple jack. Everyone else has been great or at least sensible.
Dude, you just can't/won't see the help I'm throwing your way.
Rage on, m'man. Rage on.
You wanna do this your way?... Good luck.
Try hard.
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Morning Robcat,
Look, I get it. I do. No one likes to be told what to do. Most men and women here are proud as well. Most men and women here are here to quit using the tools that are unique to this site. They have tried to quit in the past and have failed using other methods. This site does work the way it is set up. That is a fact.
Having said all of that, I personally do not have any issue with you coming to the site and reading up and seeing what has been helpful to others or what others are going through. Whatever helps you stay quit, great.
Here is what I do have a miner issue with. And it is miner because everyone here is an adult. We have a bunch of quitters here who are on board and using the method and tools to remain quit. My perception is that you are standing on the sidelines taunting them that they are foolish for quitting the way they are quitting because you can do it too without using their method. No one enjoys being called foolish.
Again, do what you need to do to stay quit. But poking everyone else in the eye while doing it is not helpful at all. I'm not telling you to leave. I'm asking you to take into consideration that this site runs a certain way and act in a way that will not discourage others from suceeding while following the prescribed method.
Stay quit!
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Another "sad attempt"?
Another "it's too hard to do it your way, KTC"?
Dude... IF you come back and read this... Quit happens here. Like, badass, for life, Quit happens here.
Join us.
Never mind. I get it. Obviously not in the mood for it, but I feel you.
Look, I quit for me. Not anyone else. I quit because I wanted to. The only person I am concerned about letting down is me and it's not gonna happen.
I'm pretty sure I can do it however I want to and exactly what the hell does doing it the KTC way mean. Is there one singular magic way that KTC mandates. I will use this site however the hell I need to to get what I need from it.
I really don't need your bullying tactics to get me to do it your way. Worked for you - fantastic! Doesn't mean it's the way for me.
Again, I get it, and I'm sure you mean well and are generally wanting others to succeed, but you're just really irritating at this point in MY quit.
Day 10. Haven't posted roll. Not apologizing for it. Doing great!!
I posted roll, and you can fuck off. Special butterflies can kiss my ass, I got real quitters to support.
You can do whatever you need to. You can fuck off as well.
Why wouldn't you want the help/support from people who are successful, every damn day, at what you're "trying to do" again?
Instead of coming into OUR house and being a belligerent butt... try being respectful. Open yourself to learning something. Our method works... our community works... why else are you even here if not for the fact that we're the best around?
The price of admission is roll call in a quit group.
Take advantage of all that simple action offers or... GTFO.
You started this. It was your original post that set me off. If that was meant to be supportive you are a little bit warped. And you want to talk to me about being respectful. Really!
I don't remember seeing that admission fee listed when I joined this site. Is that your rules?
I'm pretty sure I don't want or welcome your help apple jack. Everyone else has been great or at least sensible.
Dude, you just can't/won't see the help I'm throwing your way.
Rage on, m'man. Rage on.
You wanna do this your way?... Good luck.
Try hard.
So what you are saying is that:
1. I can come over to your house and seek advice
2. When you ask me to take my shoes off, I shit on your rug instead
3. And then I get shocked when you are mad at me
I am one of the worst gluttons that you could meet in life, I eat and drink too much, and I am a nicotine addict. Yet, when I finally listened to these "internet tough guy quitters" and did what they said, I quit dipping. That was over 1000 days ago, the system works. Why come here if you want to quit alone, makes no sense.
I have seen 100+ guys like you who refuse to post roll. Maybe 10% get their head out of their ass and stick around. Quitting is hard, why make it harder?
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Morning Robcat,
Look, I get it. I do. No one likes to be told what to do. Most men and women here are proud as well. Most men and women here are here to quit using the tools that are unique to this site. They have tried to quit in the past and have failed using other methods. This site does work the way it is set up. That is a fact.
Having said all of that, I personally do not have any issue with you coming to the site and reading up and seeing what has been helpful to others or what others are going through. Whatever helps you stay quit, great.
Here is what I do have a miner issue with. And it is miner because everyone here is an adult. We have a bunch of quitters here who are on board and using the method and tools to remain quit. My perception is that you are standing on the sidelines taunting them that they are foolish for quitting the way they are quitting because you can do it too without using their method. No one enjoys being called foolish.
Again, do what you need to do to stay quit. But poking everyone else in the eye while doing it is not helpful at all. I'm not telling you to leave. I'm asking you to take into consideration that this site runs a certain way and act in a way that will not discourage others from suceeding while following the prescribed method.
Stay quit!
Please explain how I am taunting others that they are foolish for the way they are quitting.
Pretty sure that's what I've been told by others in here though. Assimilate or get out. Pay your dues. you will fail if you don't do it exactly like we say. Oh, you don't want to do everything we tell you to do, well you're an asshole and you aren't serious and you're just stupid.
Maybe I am stuoid. We shall see I guess.
I've never once said anyone was wrong with how they quit or go through the process.
In the midst of all the badgering posts I occasionally get a few that makes me want to hang around but most of the posts just piss me off.
I have people jumping me from every angle because I dare to try to use this site the way I want to and im "poking people in the eye". If I don't do it exactly the way people suggest I'm somehow saying they are foolish. Whatever dude.
I'll be the first to admit. I have some serious anger issues right now. Getting on here doesn't make anything better in that department. I'm just gonna fuck off. Maybe come back when I'm a little more normal and not pissed off at the world.
Maybe I can use this site to stay quit by using all the anger it provokes in driving my will to do it my way just to spite all the ones telling me I'm foolish, stupid and have to do it how I'm told to.
(Disclaimer - I understand your way works and am in no way discouraging anybody else from embracing the system that is proven. Not poking eyes, belittling the method, or insinuating anyone is foolish)
Overall, my sincere apologies. Not usually so standoffish and smug, but you have all met me at a very, very strange time in my life!!!!
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Morning Robcat,
Look, I get it. I do. No one likes to be told what to do. Most men and women here are proud as well. Most men and women here are here to quit using the tools that are unique to this site. They have tried to quit in the past and have failed using other methods. This site does work the way it is set up. That is a fact.
Having said all of that, I personally do not have any issue with you coming to the site and reading up and seeing what has been helpful to others or what others are going through. Whatever helps you stay quit, great.
Here is what I do have a miner issue with. And it is miner because everyone here is an adult. We have a bunch of quitters here who are on board and using the method and tools to remain quit. My perception is that you are standing on the sidelines taunting them that they are foolish for quitting the way they are quitting because you can do it too without using their method. No one enjoys being called foolish.
Again, do what you need to do to stay quit. But poking everyone else in the eye while doing it is not helpful at all. I'm not telling you to leave. I'm asking you to take into consideration that this site runs a certain way and act in a way that will not discourage others from suceeding while following the prescribed method.
Stay quit!
Please explain how I am taunting others that they are foolish for the way they are quitting.
Pretty sure that's what I've been told by others in here though. Assimilate or get out. Pay your dues. you will fail if you don't do it exactly like we say. Oh, you don't want to do everything we tell you to do, well you're an asshole and you aren't serious and you're just stupid.
Maybe I am stuoid. We shall see I guess.
I've never once said anyone was wrong with how they quit or go through the process.
In the midst of all the badgering posts I occasionally get a few that makes me want to hang around but most of the posts just piss me off.
I have people jumping me from every angle because I dare to try to use this site the way I want to and im "poking people in the eye". If I don't do it exactly the way people suggest I'm somehow saying they are foolish. Whatever dude.
I'll be the first to admit. I have some serious anger issues right now. Getting on here doesn't make anything better in that department. I'm just gonna fuck off. Maybe come back when I'm a little more normal and not pissed off at the world.
Maybe I can use this site to stay quit by using all the anger it provokes in driving my will to do it my way just to spite all the ones telling me I'm foolish, stupid and have to do it how I'm told to.
(Disclaimer - I understand your way works and am in no way discouraging anybody else from embracing the system that is proven. Not poking eyes, belittling the method, or insinuating anyone is foolish)
Overall, my sincere apologies. Not usually so standoffish and smug, but you have all met me at a very, very strange time in my life!!!!
That's why I said that's "my" perception after reading your intro.
It is what it is.
I was attempting to provide feedback and in my own way help.
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Quitting is scary and a bunch of folks that have quit for many days using a proven system badgering you sucks - I was there 1041 days ago. I thought the veteran quitters were dicks. But once I swallowed my pride and did quit "their way", it didn't take long to jump in and not look back.
Posting roll daily reminds me of being a prisoner of a can of death, and only takes 30 seconds of my time per day.
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I just want to share with you the importance of roll and connecting with people at KTC. Was at a superbowl party. I would say into the 2nd half my neighbor who chews put his tin up on the bar in the basement.
I sort of froze and was thinking, one pinch, nobody would even know. Then I said nahhh I made a promise this morning, plus all those guys that post support would be pissed and dissappointed. This place has kept me quit
for 522 days. I can tell you if I was not on roll and not a participant I would have grabbed a pinch.
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I see you lurking, which tells me you want to quit. What is the hold up? I know you are stubborn (so am I) but I decided I like my jaw too much.
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I just want to share with you the importance of roll and connecting with people at KTC. Was at a superbowl party. I would say into the 2nd half my neighbor who chews put his tin up on the bar in the basement.
I sort of froze and was thinking, one pinch, nobody would even know. Then I said nahhh I made a promise this morning, plus all those guys that post support would be pissed and dissappointed. This place has kept me quit
for 522 days. I can tell you if I was not on roll and not a participant I would have grabbed a pinch.
Nice post.
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
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I use my intro as a sort of journal I will look back on sometime in the future.
There may be some things you want to post in both places.... You can hate and rage anywhere you like, you will get some antagonists, but it is the internet. Say whatever you like (but don't say KTC sucks) roflmao
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
Excellent. LEt's get to quitting. RAge here or in your group. No raging on family. We put that shit in our maouths not them. YOur group can help if you do it there. Way to be. That promise is key man, proud to be quit with you today.
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
Any regrets from posting roll?
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
Any regrets from posting roll?
Too early to say.
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
Any regrets from posting roll?
Too early to say.
Uh....?
What's holding you back? What's the hangup?
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
Any regrets from posting roll?
Too early to say.
Uh....?
What's holding you back? What's the hangup?
Holding me back from what ?
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
Any regrets from posting roll?
Too early to say.
Uh....?
What's holding you back? What's the hangup?
Holding me back from what ?
Oooooookay...
Let's try it again.
"Too early to tell"
Why?
A response like yours implies you still have a hangup regarding roll.
What's holding you back from buying in?
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
Any regrets from posting roll?
Too early to say.
Uh....?
What's holding you back? What's the hangup?
Holding me back from what ?
Oooooookay...
Let's try it again.
"Too early to tell"
Why?
A response like yours implies you still have a hangup regarding roll.
What's holding you back from buying in?
The response was too early to say. Of course it's to early to say because I hadn't yet received your responses yet, lol. Having received your typical response, I can say my only hang up is with your comments dude.
Am I posting roll apple jack? I've bought in with my group. Great bunch! Again, I will have no buy in with you due to the fact you get off on being an asshole. It's easy to do on here. I know you know what's best for me of course so of course I'm the asshole for not listening right.
By the way, doing great. Thanks for whatever it is I should be thanking you for. I'll stick with my group for assistance. Find someone else to verbally masturbate yourself off to
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
Any regrets from posting roll?
Too early to say.
Uh....?
What's holding you back? What's the hangup?
Holding me back from what ?
Oooooookay...
Let's try it again.
"Too early to tell"
Why?
A response like yours implies you still have a hangup regarding roll.
What's holding you back from buying in?
The response was too early to say. Of course it's to early to say because I hadn't yet received your responses yet, lol. Having received your typical response, I can say my only hang up is with your comments dude.
Am I posting roll apple jack? I've bought in with my group. Great bunch! Again, I will have no buy in with you due to the fact you get off on being an asshole. It's easy to do on here. I know you know what's best for me of course so of course I'm the asshole for not listening right.
By the way, doing great. Thanks for whatever it is I should be thanking you for. I'll stick with my group for assistance. Find someone else to verbally masturbate yourself off to
Woooow.
You sure read a LOT more into that than was actually there. Cool talent.
Do you really not understand what I asked? You obviously don't.
So be it. Skew it however you need, bro...
Rock on. Quit on.
I won't bully you anymore
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Okay. I posted roll today!
Ive read through these posts the past few days. I think I may be Satan!
I do not hate everyone today. There are some i still don't like today, but who knows, I probably may like by tomorrow.
Final question. Do I post stuff here (rants, pontifications, delusions of grandeur, etc...) here or in my quit group.
I chose to post my rants in my intro, but either your quit group or here is fine. Roll call looks good on ya!
Yes it does! I quit with you today Robcat.
After you post roll, you can post anywhere else you would like. Here , there, even both. Welcome aboard!!!
Any regrets from posting roll?
Too early to say.
Uh....?
What's holding you back? What's the hangup?
Holding me back from what ?
Oooooookay...
Let's try it again.
"Too early to tell"
Why?
A response like yours implies you still have a hangup regarding roll.
What's holding you back from buying in?
The response was too early to say. Of course it's to early to say because I hadn't yet received your responses yet, lol. Having received your typical response, I can say my only hang up is with your comments dude.
Am I posting roll apple jack? I've bought in with my group. Great bunch! Again, I will have no buy in with you due to the fact you get off on being an asshole. It's easy to do on here. I know you know what's best for me of course so of course I'm the asshole for not listening right.
By the way, doing great. Thanks for whatever it is I should be thanking you for. I'll stick with my group for assistance. Find someone else to verbally masturbate yourself off to
Woooow.
You sure read a LOT more into that than was actually there. Cool talent.
Do you really not understand what I asked? You obviously don't.
So be it. Skew it however you need, bro...
Rock on. Quit on.
I won't bully you anymore
Okay. Thanks buddy.
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Hey Robcat, I come in peace. Read through your intro and I can relate to the anger and rage. I think we all can. I am day 24 of quitting and not going to lie, it sucks. I dipped for 35 years. Came to the conclusion that it was time to be done. Stop dancing with the devil. I am sure that we are similar in that we both have tried to quit before. My experience has not been good. What I have found out over these 24 days is that I need people around my that understand what it is like to give up something that I love doing. Something that has me by the balls and does not want to let go. I need people around me that understand I am pissed...raging anger...and even more pissed that I am not even sure why I am pissed. I have snapped at my wife for no reason at all. Makes me a prick. I have learned how to use the guys in my group to rage on and not my wife. She appreciates that. In order for that to happen for you, I encourage you to get as many phone numbers from people that you can. In the first few days, i did not understand. By day 7, I had 3 or 4 numbers and would text back and forth both good and bad. It helped me get through the days. Now at day 24, I have 16 or 17 numbers in my phone. Some I text everyday. I have texted them all at some point and most have texted me back. I have personally talked to 4 of them on the phone over the last week. Couple times to help me and a couple times to help them. I dont pretend to understand why posting roll every morning helps, but it does. I have 60 something people in my april group that I promise everyday that i will not use tobacco. Again, not sure why, but no way I am going to let them down.
I hope you find in short time that you feel the same way about posting roll. I think I read on here that someone said take what you need and leave the rest(The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down?). I agree. You will find some assholes on this site, no doubt. You will also find some really good guys. I ask you to reach out to some guys and get their number and start building a support group that you feel comfortable with. These will be the guys that help you to keep your promise to stay quit. You just have to ask me and my numbers are yours.
I wish you luck and hope that you quit today and get up and do it again tomorrow....
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Hey Robcat, I come in peace. Read through your intro and I can relate to the anger and rage. I think we all can. I am day 24 of quitting and not going to lie, it sucks. I dipped for 35 years. Came to the conclusion that it was time to be done. Stop dancing with the devil. I am sure that we are similar in that we both have tried to quit before. My experience has not been good. What I have found out over these 24 days is that I need people around my that understand what it is like to give up something that I love doing. Something that has me by the balls and does not want to let go. I need people around me that understand I am pissed...raging anger...and even more pissed that I am not even sure why I am pissed. I have snapped at my wife for no reason at all. Makes me a prick. I have learned how to use the guys in my group to rage on and not my wife. She appreciates that. In order for that to happen for you, I encourage you to get as many phone numbers from people that you can. In the first few days, i did not understand. By day 7, I had 3 or 4 numbers and would text back and forth both good and bad. It helped me get through the days. Now at day 24, I have 16 or 17 numbers in my phone. Some I text everyday. I have texted them all at some point and most have texted me back. I have personally talked to 4 of them on the phone over the last week. Couple times to help me and a couple times to help them. I dont pretend to understand why posting roll every morning helps, but it does. I have 60 something people in my april group that I promise everyday that i will not use tobacco. Again, not sure why, but no way I am going to let them down.
I hope you find in short time that you feel the same way about posting roll. I think I read on here that someone said take what you need and leave the rest(The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down?). I agree. You will find some assholes on this site, no doubt. You will also find some really good guys. I ask you to reach out to some guys and get their number and start building a support group that you feel comfortable with. These will be the guys that help you to keep your promise to stay quit. You just have to ask me and my numbers are yours.
I wish you luck and hope that you quit today and get up and do it again tomorrow....
This is one of the best posts I've ever read
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Hey Robcat, I come in peace. Read through your intro and I can relate to the anger and rage. I think we all can. I am day 24 of quitting and not going to lie, it sucks. I dipped for 35 years. Came to the conclusion that it was time to be done. Stop dancing with the devil. I am sure that we are similar in that we both have tried to quit before. My experience has not been good. What I have found out over these 24 days is that I need people around my that understand what it is like to give up something that I love doing. Something that has me by the balls and does not want to let go. I need people around me that understand I am pissed...raging anger...and even more pissed that I am not even sure why I am pissed. I have snapped at my wife for no reason at all. Makes me a prick. I have learned how to use the guys in my group to rage on and not my wife. She appreciates that. In order for that to happen for you, I encourage you to get as many phone numbers from people that you can. In the first few days, i did not understand. By day 7, I had 3 or 4 numbers and would text back and forth both good and bad. It helped me get through the days. Now at day 24, I have 16 or 17 numbers in my phone. Some I text everyday. I have texted them all at some point and most have texted me back. I have personally talked to 4 of them on the phone over the last week. Couple times to help me and a couple times to help them. I dont pretend to understand why posting roll every morning helps, but it does. I have 60 something people in my april group that I promise everyday that i will not use tobacco. Again, not sure why, but no way I am going to let them down.
I hope you find in short time that you feel the same way about posting roll. I think I read on here that someone said take what you need and leave the rest(The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down?). I agree. You will find some assholes on this site, no doubt. You will also find some really good guys. I ask you to reach out to some guys and get their number and start building a support group that you feel comfortable with. These will be the guys that help you to keep your promise to stay quit. You just have to ask me and my numbers are yours.
I wish you luck and hope that you quit today and get up and do it again tomorrow....
This is one of the best posts I've ever read
Can't argue with that.