KillTheCan.org Accountability Forum

Community => Introductions => Topic started by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 02:19:00 AM

Title: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 02:19:00 AM
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head! 'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is: 'Finger'
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: Paddington on February 18, 2014, 04:42:00 AM
There is a lot to talk about in your intro. I want to cover three subjects.

1.) Firstly nicotine the "drug" itself and not tobacco the plant, is in many ways an anti-depressant. It works in a similar fashion as some pharmaceuticals. Zyban or Wellbutrin the medication they prescribe in order to stop anxiety/cravings/depression during someones quit is actually prescribed to people with depression, anxiety, and even ADD/ADHD who are not tobacco users. With nicotine withdrawals it somewhat continues the same action of blocking the re-uptake of dopamine, along with other actions. If you know you have a diagnosed illness and you used tobacco to medicate then perhaps quitting is the first step, and getting help even if it is not medication is the next. You yourself admitted you used nicotine to treat a problem, so help yourself and get a real tool to solve the greater issue.

2.) Quitting is going to suck. I read on here that- "Its going to get worse before it gets better". That hits the nail right on the head. You better know what your in for and be ready. Don't waste your time or anyone else'.

3.) You are not alone, but you have to be accountable. If you come here and expect something you have to put something in. I am on day 42 this morning. Last week was like week one, this week has been a breeze. I feel as if tobacco and me had never met. Coming on KTC to post roll actually has made me mad because it brings up the fact that I was putting that shit in my mouth. That might be how I feel now but posting roll and checking in is an insurance policy. While I might be cruising right now, next week might be the "worst" week of my life and I might need the help. When it is the worst week of your life sometimes just reading what others have written, facts on the main page, or branching out and reading any material related to what is going on in your head and body can really help.

Read everything that is sticky noted. Read through a few introductions, read and watch the video on how to post roll. Then do it. Don't wait. Commit and go forward. This is going to be hard but trust me it is going to be worth it.

I am no expert quitter or veteran. In the bigger picture I am more closely related to where you are at when compared to some of the guys on here who are at a year or greater. Having said that in just 41 days I have made such a drastic change. From waking up in the morning only to reach over for my can before I even open my eyes to waking up and not even thinking about it. I don't need to go into details about how awesome that is. You and everyone else knows how shitty it feels when you realize your every moment is dictated by a can and how awesome it would be to break that. Well I did this morning and I will do it tomorrow morning and so can you.

Welcome.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: RaliPaul on February 18, 2014, 06:50:00 AM
Welcome to KTC. It will be tough to quit but will be worth it. Go into it knowing that you will succeed - one day at a time.
You do not want to delay your QUIT or next thing you know you'll be much older looking back at the many years you wasted opportunities to QUIT.
I agree with Paddington that Posting and coming to KTC can be painful because it reminds us that we had been putting this crap in our mouths for a while but I've realized that is necessary for me to stay accountable and on track.
I can definately relate to the anxiety and depression issues - I also can feel trapped within negative thoughts with an inability to think clearly. Aches in my head, back, neck, back of knees caused by stress. It definately sucks but you definately need to eliminate the tobacco.
Read my intro for some of my story.
You will post in May 2014 if you decide to make the commitment to our team. Welcome!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: copingwithoutcopen on February 18, 2014, 07:10:00 AM
Schitzo, Welcome buddy! Your story's no different then a thousand others around here except you've made your decision sooner then most. Great choice btw but success depends on you going all in. Check out the welcome center, find your group and post your promise to quit every day. If you take these simple steps and keep your word, it's impossible to fail. You've manned up, stepped up, now follow through. Roam says sleeper cabs aren't as much fun when the trannys no good or your jaw falls off. Keep that in mind and get yourself on roll.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: Wt57 on February 18, 2014, 10:46:00 AM
Ok your intro is right up my alley. I'm going to disagree with some of your thoughts and also what Padd said. Nicotine may be considered a drug by some but the first use of nicotine other than than smoking chewing or snorting was an insecticide ( a poison!!). My experience with nicotine over 40 plus years I describe in my HOF speech The missing warning label  (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6737). I also subscribed to the idea that nicotine calmed and relaxed me, but now that I've been nicotine free for 689 days I refute that idea vigorously!
I want to tackle another part of your intro;
Quote
P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

Bull shit, if you have a problem deal with it. I was you for over 30 years, there was nothing I couldn't deal with on my own. Well one day about 15 years ago I realized I had failed dealing with it on my own. I found myself in the fetal position holding a handgun ready to end my worthless life because I couldn't deal with my thoughts and actions. Instead of ending it I swallowed my pride and crawled to a doctor and admitted I was weak. I'm in no way ashamed today to admit I take several prescription drugs and natural supplements to regulate my serotonin levels. Would you tell a diabetic to deal with their disease alone? Would you tell my wife to forget drugs to keep her MS under control and live with it if she ends up crippled or blind?
I see you didn't post roll does that mean you plan on quitting nicotine on your own? That won't work either, I can promise you that. Your young, and your odds aren't the greatest of quitting this nicotine use. That being said if you face the fact that you are addicted and take all the help and advise available you might win. Well I know I'm the old bastard (have kids older than you) but my experiences are yours if you don't tackle this now.

After posting roll check out the anxiety and depression forum in the wildcard section, you will find added support.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: LSUTiger on February 18, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head! 'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is: 'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: ihatecope on February 18, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
Welcome to the site. As you can see there are a lot of people who have their hand out wanting to help you (That would be all the names here on your page and all the names in your quit group.) What you need to do is take their hand and blanket yourself in all that KTC has to offer. Something you should know is that we are all addicted to nicotine and used it for our own fucked up justified reasons. I look back and laugh my ass off at some of the things I believed nicotine did for me. In college, I believed that a dip would actually help me focus studying and be calming for tests. LOL, if anything that bitchÂ’s cravings were a huge distraction especially during tests. Nicotine will never and can never be a positive in your life. ThatÂ’s why I know that nicotine cannot help you with anxiety, panic, or depression. It is heavily stated here on KTC, nicotine + problem = 2 problems. This is fact.

Just a thought - you said you have been chewing for 7 years and that you have been battling anxiety, panic, and depression for only 3 to 4 years. Have you considered that nicotine is causing the anxiety, panic, and depression or at least magnifying them? I only suggest that because those are the exact symptoms of nicotine craving and nicotine withdrawal. Well done on being quit! I’m quit with you. You are about to experience “the suck.” That will be 24/7 anxiety, panic, and depression for the next couple of weeks. You can do this. PM (private message) me anytime.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 04:35:00 PM
Quote from: Paddington
There is a lot to talk about in your intro. I want to cover three subjects.

1.) Firstly nicotine the "drug" itself and not tobacco the plant, is in many ways an anti-depressant. It works in a similar fashion as some pharmaceuticals. Zyban or Wellbutrin the medication they prescribe in order to stop anxiety/cravings/depression during someones quit is actually prescribed to people with depression, anxiety, and even ADD/ADHD who are not tobacco users. With nicotine withdrawals it somewhat continues the same action of blocking the re-uptake of dopamine, along with other actions. If you know you have a diagnosed illness and you used tobacco to medicate then perhaps quitting is the first step, and getting help even if it is not medication is the next. You yourself admitted you used nicotine to treat a problem, so help yourself and get a real tool to solve the greater issue.

2.) Quitting is going to suck. I read on here that- "Its going to get worse before it gets better". That hits the nail right on the head. You better know what your in for and be ready. Don't waste your time or anyone else'.

3.) You are not alone, but you have to be accountable. If you come here and expect something you have to put something in. I am on day 42 this morning. Last week was like week one, this week has been a breeze. I feel as if tobacco and me had never met. Coming on KTC to post roll actually has made me mad because it brings up the fact that I was putting that shit in my mouth. That might be how I feel now but posting roll and checking in is an insurance policy. While I might be cruising right now, next week might be the "worst" week of my life and I might need the help. When it is the worst week of your life sometimes just reading what others have written, facts on the main page, or branching out and reading any material related to what is going on in your head and body can really help.

Read everything that is sticky noted. Read through a few introductions, read and watch the video on how to post roll. Then do it. Don't wait. Commit and go forward. This is going to be hard but trust me it is going to be worth it.

I am no expert quitter or veteran. In the bigger picture I am more closely related to where you are at when compared to some of the guys on here who are at a year or greater. Having said that in just 41 days I have made such a drastic change. From waking up in the morning only to reach over for my can before I even open my eyes to waking up and not even thinking about it. I don't need to go into details about how awesome that is. You and everyone else knows how shitty it feels when you realize your every moment is dictated by a can and how awesome it would be to break that. Well I did this morning and I will do it tomorrow morning and so can you.

Welcome.
Thanks, man. I think I have a wee bit of an idea about what you're touching on. I quit several years ago for like 3 months; low and behold, I was back at it. I'm trying to figure out how to "post roll." Right now, I don't have the patience to sit around and look for something that I can't find with ease. I'm a bit on edge! I'm not trying to waste anyone's time, let alone mine. I don't wanna feel this way, if I wasn't trying to do it for myself. Hopefully things keep going semi-smoothly, it's the night's that are gunna kill me the most..
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: RaliPaul
Welcome to KTC. It will be tough to quit but will be worth it. Go into it knowing that you will succeed - one day at a time.
You do not want to delay your QUIT or next thing you know you'll be much older looking back at the many years you wasted opportunities to QUIT.
I agree with Paddington that Posting and coming to KTC can be painful because it reminds us that we had been putting this crap in our mouths for a while but I've realized that is necessary for me to stay accountable and on track.
I can definately relate to the anxiety and depression issues - I also can feel trapped within negative thoughts with an inability to think clearly. Aches in my head, back, neck, back of knees caused by stress. It definately sucks but you definately need to eliminate the tobacco.
Read my intro for some of my story.
You will post in May 2014 if you decide to make the commitment to our team. Welcome!
Thanks for the welcome! I wish to join the team, I'm just trying to figure out how to do such. Right now, I don't have a whole lot of patience, as I'm edgy as shit. Once the crave diminishes, I'll do my best to figure out how to properly use this site. I have a good feeling that nicotine has been the leading cause to my many problems over the past few years. By the end of the day, I hope to have figured out how to "post roll."
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: slug.go on February 18, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: RaliPaul
Welcome to KTC.  It will be tough to quit but will be worth it.  Go into it knowing that you will succeed - one day at a time.
You do not want to delay your QUIT or next thing you know you'll be much older looking back at the many years you wasted opportunities to QUIT.
I agree with Paddington that Posting and coming to KTC can be painful because it reminds us that we had been putting this crap in our mouths for a while but I've realized that is necessary for me to stay accountable and on track.
I can definately relate to the anxiety and depression issues - I also can feel trapped within negative thoughts with an inability to think clearly.  Aches in my head, back, neck, back of knees caused by stress.  It definately sucks but you definately need to eliminate the tobacco.
Read my intro for some of my story.
You will post in May 2014 if you decide to make the commitment to our team. Welcome!
Thanks for the welcome! I wish to join the team, I'm just trying to figure out how to do such. Right now, I don't have a whole lot of patience, as I'm edgy as shit. Once the crave diminishes, I'll do my best to figure out how to properly use this site. I have a good feeling that nicotine has been the leading cause to my many problems over the past few years. By the end of the day, I hope to have figured out how to "post roll."
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
How to post roll. You're in May 2014.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Schitzo, Welcome buddy! Your story's no different then a thousand others around here except you've made your decision sooner then most. Great choice btw but success depends on you going all in. Check out the welcome center, find your group and post your promise to quit every day. If you take these simple steps and keep your word, it's impossible to fail. You've manned up, stepped up, now follow through. Roam says sleeper cabs aren't as much fun when the trannys no good or your jaw falls off. Keep that in mind and get yourself on roll.
Thanks, man! I will be looking more into how to post and do all of that a bit later. I'm just trying to respond to people, because I don't have the damn patience to look on how to do this stuff right now. I think you basically just told me how to do it. Maybe I'll look now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 04:48:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Ok your intro is right up my alley. I'm going to disagree with some of your thoughts and also what Padd said. Nicotine may be considered a drug by some but the first use of nicotine other than than smoking chewing or snorting was an insecticide ( a poison!!). My experience with nicotine over 40 plus years I describe in my HOF speech The missing warning label  (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6737). I also subscribed to the idea that nicotine calmed and relaxed me, but now that I've been nicotine free for 689 days I refute that idea vigorously!
I want to tackle another part of your intro;
Quote
P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.
Bull shit, if you have a problem deal with it. I was you for over 30 years, there was nothing I couldn't deal with on my own. Well one day about 15 years ago I realized I had failed dealing with it on my own. I found myself in the fetal position holding a handgun ready to end my worthless life because I couldn't deal with my thoughts and actions. Instead of ending it I swallowed my pride and crawled to a doctor and admitted I was weak. I'm in no way ashamed today to admit I take several prescription drugs and natural supplements to regulate my serotonin levels. Would you tell a diabetic to deal with their disease alone? Would you tell my wife to forget drugs to keep her MS under control and live with it if she ends up crippled or blind?
I see you didn't post roll does that mean you plan on quitting nicotine on your own? That won't work either, I can promise you that. Your young, and your odds aren't the greatest of quitting this nicotine use. That being said if you face the fact that you are addicted and take all the help and advise available you might win. Well I know I'm the old bastard (have kids older than you) but my experiences are yours if you don't tackle this now.

After posting roll check out the anxiety and depression forum in the wildcard section, you will find added support.
Thank you! Let's see.....I am trying to figure out how to use this forum, so bare with me while I try to do all of the steps (ie. post roll) to receive help and guidance. Thanks for the push in the right direction. That's what I'm afraid of, is becoming too dependent on nicotine, to the point where I can never quit. It's already hard now. As for the medication part: I am referring to psychiatric type drugs. I do not look down on people for taking them, it's just a personal preference not to take them. I guess my thoughts are a bit flawed and weak on the manner, but it's my opinion.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 04:50:00 PM
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: Emulator on February 18, 2014, 04:52:00 PM
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
Quote from: ihatecope
Welcome to the site. As you can see there are a lot of people who have their hand out wanting to help you (That would be all the names here on your page and all the names in your quit group.) What you need to do is take their hand and blanket yourself in all that KTC has to offer. Something you should know is that we are all addicted to nicotine and used it for our own fucked up justified reasons. I look back and laugh my ass off at some of the things I believed nicotine did for me. In college, I believed that a dip would actually help me focus studying and be calming for tests. LOL, if anything that bitchÂ’s cravings were a huge distraction especially during tests. Nicotine will never and can never be a positive in your life. ThatÂ’s why I know that nicotine cannot help you with anxiety, panic, or depression. It is heavily stated here on KTC, nicotine + problem = 2 problems. This is fact.

Just a thought - you said you have been chewing for 7 years and that you have been battling anxiety, panic, and depression for only 3 to 4 years. Have you considered that nicotine is causing the anxiety, panic, and depression or at least magnifying them? I only suggest that because those are the exact symptoms of nicotine craving and nicotine withdrawal. Well done on being quit! I’m quit with you. You are about to experience “the suck.” That will be 24/7 anxiety, panic, and depression for the next couple of weeks. You can do this. PM (private message) me anytime.
Thanks, man! Oh, trust me, I have many stupid reasons why I've dipped. I just got fed up with the BS excuses and justifications. I also tell people not to even take one dip because it is so shitty. Everything about it is shitty, especially the addiction part. It's only been over the past few months that I started to think about quitting. I've been seeing my personal health diminish, as well as other things in my life.

To be honest, I'm not all too certain about the anxiety part. Yes, I've noticed that when I've been anxious, a dip - MOST OF THE TIME - will help, but sometimes it would not. Sometimes, I'd get anxiety or panic attacks while I had the dip in. So, I always thought that it might have been a factor, but was too thick-skulled to change it.

All I can say is that my mood has been all over the place, but mainly very depressed.

I will more than likely take you up on your offer with the PM. I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: peters6278 on February 18, 2014, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: B-loMatt on February 18, 2014, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: RaliPaul
Welcome to KTC.  It will be tough to quit but will be worth it.  Go into it knowing that you will succeed - one day at a time.
You do not want to delay your QUIT or next thing you know you'll be much older looking back at the many years you wasted opportunities to QUIT.
I agree with Paddington that Posting and coming to KTC can be painful because it reminds us that we had been putting this crap in our mouths for a while but I've realized that is necessary for me to stay accountable and on track.
I can definately relate to the anxiety and depression issues - I also can feel trapped within negative thoughts with an inability to think clearly.  Aches in my head, back, neck, back of knees caused by stress.  It definately sucks but you definately need to eliminate the tobacco.
Read my intro for some of my story.
You will post in May 2014 if you decide to make the commitment to our team. Welcome!
Thanks for the welcome! I wish to join the team, I'm just trying to figure out how to do such. Right now, I don't have a whole lot of patience, as I'm edgy as shit. Once the crave diminishes, I'll do my best to figure out how to properly use this site. I have a good feeling that nicotine has been the leading cause to my many problems over the past few years. By the end of the day, I hope to have figured out how to "post roll."
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
How to post roll. You're in May 2014.
Thanks! I think I found how to do it.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 09:31:00 PM
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Thanks, man. I'm ready for these uphill battles.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
I know you're being serious, but I thought your analogy was pretty funny and good. I could definitely picture it, and relate to the past 2 days. Thanks for the FYI on the term "hope." My body is telling me one thing, and my brain is telling me another. I have to keep telling myself that this too soon shall pass, and I'll be on to even greater stepping stones in my life. I know that I cannot rely on dip, for it is ruining my overall health: and with out health, we got nothing. I will NOT use the term "hope" again, or well in it's right and beloved context.

I am definitely thinking about the future, but I'll try to take it day-by-day. What I mean by thinking about the future is how horrible I'm gunna be feeling. I would rather feel this way now, then be jawless later on in life. I try to keep telling myself those types of things.

Thanks!!

;Ironman:
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 18, 2014, 09:51:00 PM
If you can sift through all of this stuff, I thought I'd give a little recap about today (which was/is day #2): Today was an all-around boring day. I, at first, didn't want to get out of bed. I haven't felt that way in awhile. I also didn't sleep very well. I couldn't get to sleep and when I did, I'd keep waking up and having trouble falling back asleep. I have had some problems sleeping before I decided to quit; I just thought/assumed nicotine was the culprit.

Anyway, I didn't have much to do today, and no one was home. Yes, trapped inside my mind without anyone here. All I pretty much did was: listen to music, clean up some of the house, listen to music, do some writing, listen to music, and play some CoD on the PS3. I know, I was getting fucking pissed off - well, more than usual - because I didn't have dip, and because of the people on there. I'll stop myself there.

Surprisingly enough, today was an overall OK day. I mean, I've felt very anxious, had incredibly terrible cotton-mouth, been pretty damn hungry and have been experiencing what I see some like to refer to as "The Fog." I've got that bad especially right now. Oh, yeah: I can't forget the sweating. I don't think I've sweated this bad since Wrestling in High School - that wasn't even that long ago.

Right now, I feel very hungry, have cotton-mouth, feel foggy, and my body is a bit achy. I still feel pretty anxious, and my mood definitely seems to keep adjusting by the minute.

I just keep telling myself that I can do it, and that there's not a better time to do it. If I don't do it now, it may be too late and my jaw might have to be removed. Then, my life would suck all because I needed to have "1 more dip," and we all know how that goes....

I just wanted to thank everyone who commented/posted: I really do appreciate it!

I just got to take it day-by-day, and go from there. I'm hoping this uphill battle isn't too long, but if it is then it is. Nothing I can do about it.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: rtpope on February 18, 2014, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Haunted - quitting sucks and then it doesn't. I think that is the best thing I read when I was on day 1. I wish I remember what bad ass quitter put it on their intro thread. I'm on Day 12 and haven't endured too much suck since day 4, until today. I dipped for 13 years, a can a day, with that shit in my lip every second of every day, sometimes including meal time.

Here's what I've learned so far: Post roll every damn day. Don't be the asshole that does it just bc...think about what you are doing. Promising yourself and all of us in your May group that you will not use nicotine today. If you lie to me I will be pissed.

Get yourself some chewing gum, sunflower seeds, fake dip, etc. I have found that fake dip helps me pass the cravings much better.

I"m quit with you today.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: LifeAfterDip on February 19, 2014, 11:19:00 AM
Looking forward to seeing the development of your quit. I am also 21, going to school full-time, working part-time, and juggling like in between. In the last 45 days I not only kicked nicotine out of the door by my highly addictive anxiety meds. It gets better!!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: slug.go on February 19, 2014, 11:50:00 AM
Quote from: LifeAfterDip
Looking forward to seeing the development of your quit. I am also 21, going to school full-time, working part-time, and juggling like in between. In the last 45 days I not only kicked nicotine out of the door by my highly addictive anxiety meds. It gets better!!
Good for you, LAD!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 19, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: rtpope
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Haunted - quitting sucks and then it doesn't. I think that is the best thing I read when I was on day 1. I wish I remember what bad ass quitter put it on their intro thread. I'm on Day 12 and haven't endured too much suck since day 4, until today. I dipped for 13 years, a can a day, with that shit in my lip every second of every day, sometimes including meal time.

Here's what I've learned so far: Post roll every damn day. Don't be the asshole that does it just bc...think about what you are doing. Promising yourself and all of us in your May group that you will not use nicotine today. If you lie to me I will be pissed.

Get yourself some chewing gum, sunflower seeds, fake dip, etc. I have found that fake dip helps me pass the cravings much better.

I"m quit with you today.
Thanks! Yes, I am taking it very seriously. Today is day #3 and it is pure hell. Maybe it's just because my sleep was terrible yet again, but I don't know.

So far, chewing gum and throat lozenges have been working pretty good. I have no idea how to get fake dip. Anyway, thanks, and I won't be that asshole!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 19, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: LifeAfterDip
Looking forward to seeing the development of your quit. I am also 21, going to school full-time, working part-time, and juggling like in between. In the last 45 days I not only kicked nicotine out of the door by my highly addictive anxiety meds. It gets better!!
Thank you! I'm glad your journey has been pretty decent. Did you quit nicotine and your anxiety meds at the same time? If so, I'm curious as to how that worked out for you. Anxiety is my biggest enemy, right now, and probably will continue to be.

I'm hoping school is going good for you!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: slug.go on February 19, 2014, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: rtpope
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Haunted - quitting sucks and then it doesn't. I think that is the best thing I read when I was on day 1. I wish I remember what bad ass quitter put it on their intro thread. I'm on Day 12 and haven't endured too much suck since day 4, until today. I dipped for 13 years, a can a day, with that shit in my lip every second of every day, sometimes including meal time.

Here's what I've learned so far: Post roll every damn day. Don't be the asshole that does it just bc...think about what you are doing. Promising yourself and all of us in your May group that you will not use nicotine today. If you lie to me I will be pissed.

Get yourself some chewing gum, sunflower seeds, fake dip, etc. I have found that fake dip helps me pass the cravings much better.

I"m quit with you today.
Thanks! Yes, I am taking it very seriously. Today is day #3 and it is pure hell. Maybe it's just because my sleep was terrible yet again, but I don't know.

So far, chewing gum and throat lozenges have been working pretty good. I have no idea how to get fake dip. Anyway, thanks, and I won't be that asshole!
Haunted,
You can get Smokey Mountain fake dip at Walmart.
Also, when you post under Quitters, not Supporters, about 1/2 way down the page.
You'll figure it out, we all screw it up.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: Mthomas3824 on February 19, 2014, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: rtpope
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Haunted - quitting sucks and then it doesn't. I think that is the best thing I read when I was on day 1. I wish I remember what bad ass quitter put it on their intro thread. I'm on Day 12 and haven't endured too much suck since day 4, until today. I dipped for 13 years, a can a day, with that shit in my lip every second of every day, sometimes including meal time.

Here's what I've learned so far: Post roll every damn day. Don't be the asshole that does it just bc...think about what you are doing. Promising yourself and all of us in your May group that you will not use nicotine today. If you lie to me I will be pissed.

Get yourself some chewing gum, sunflower seeds, fake dip, etc. I have found that fake dip helps me pass the cravings much better.

I"m quit with you today.
Thanks! Yes, I am taking it very seriously. Today is day #3 and it is pure hell. Maybe it's just because my sleep was terrible yet again, but I don't know.

So far, chewing gum and throat lozenges have been working pretty good. I have no idea how to get fake dip. Anyway, thanks, and I won't be that asshole!
Haunted,
You can get Smokey Mountain fake dip at Walmart.
Also, when you post under Quitters, not Supporters, about 1/2 way down the page.
You'll figure it out, we all screw it up.
Welcome. 21 years young and quitting. That's awesome you made this decision earlier than most.

Addiction thrives in lies and half truths. To beat addiction, you have to (at all risks) be honest to yourself and others. If you crave don't be a tough guy and think you have to be strong. When you are weak be honest and tell us. Get phone numbers you can call for support and use the numbers.

Post roll and make a promise every day with your group. Most cavers cave by one or both of these choices. 1. not posting roll or 2. drinking to a point of "fuck it" I can't be quit forever.

Stay close and freedom is possible but not to the arrogant addict that thinks they are stronger than the addiction. The addiction wins every time we start lying and trying to prove something. It has no chance if you follow the KTC Plan with exactness.

Get reading, and get ready to go to war with Hell. It gets better. I know from experience.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 19, 2014, 07:24:00 PM
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: rtpope
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Haunted - quitting sucks and then it doesn't. I think that is the best thing I read when I was on day 1. I wish I remember what bad ass quitter put it on their intro thread. I'm on Day 12 and haven't endured too much suck since day 4, until today. I dipped for 13 years, a can a day, with that shit in my lip every second of every day, sometimes including meal time.

Here's what I've learned so far: Post roll every damn day. Don't be the asshole that does it just bc...think about what you are doing. Promising yourself and all of us in your May group that you will not use nicotine today. If you lie to me I will be pissed.

Get yourself some chewing gum, sunflower seeds, fake dip, etc. I have found that fake dip helps me pass the cravings much better.

I"m quit with you today.
Thanks! Yes, I am taking it very seriously. Today is day #3 and it is pure hell. Maybe it's just because my sleep was terrible yet again, but I don't know.

So far, chewing gum and throat lozenges have been working pretty good. I have no idea how to get fake dip. Anyway, thanks, and I won't be that asshole!
Haunted,
You can get Smokey Mountain fake dip at Walmart.
Also, when you post under Quitters, not Supporters, about 1/2 way down the page.
You'll figure it out, we all screw it up.
Thanks for the head's up, man. I still haven't a clue what you're talking about, but I'll investigate to see what you're talking about!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 19, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: rtpope
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Haunted - quitting sucks and then it doesn't. I think that is the best thing I read when I was on day 1. I wish I remember what bad ass quitter put it on their intro thread. I'm on Day 12 and haven't endured too much suck since day 4, until today. I dipped for 13 years, a can a day, with that shit in my lip every second of every day, sometimes including meal time.

Here's what I've learned so far: Post roll every damn day. Don't be the asshole that does it just bc...think about what you are doing. Promising yourself and all of us in your May group that you will not use nicotine today. If you lie to me I will be pissed.

Get yourself some chewing gum, sunflower seeds, fake dip, etc. I have found that fake dip helps me pass the cravings much better.

I"m quit with you today.
Thanks! Yes, I am taking it very seriously. Today is day #3 and it is pure hell. Maybe it's just because my sleep was terrible yet again, but I don't know.

So far, chewing gum and throat lozenges have been working pretty good. I have no idea how to get fake dip. Anyway, thanks, and I won't be that asshole!
Haunted,
You can get Smokey Mountain fake dip at Walmart.
Also, when you post under Quitters, not Supporters, about 1/2 way down the page.
You'll figure it out, we all screw it up.
Welcome. 21 years young and quitting. That's awesome you made this decision earlier than most.

Addiction thrives in lies and half truths. To beat addiction, you have to (at all risks) be honest to yourself and others. If you crave don't be a tough guy and think you have to be strong. When you are weak be honest and tell us. Get phone numbers you can call for support and use the numbers.

Post roll and make a promise every day with your group. Most cavers cave by one or both of these choices. 1. not posting roll or 2. drinking to a point of "fuck it" I can't be quit forever.

Stay close and freedom is possible but not to the arrogant addict that thinks they are stronger than the addiction. The addiction wins every time we start lying and trying to prove something. It has no chance if you follow the KTC Plan with exactness.

Get reading, and get ready to go to war with Hell. It gets better. I know from experience.
Thanks for the advice, man. I do plan to get some numbers and utilize them!

I am uncertain what you mean when you state: "To beat addiction, you have to (at all risks) be honest to yourself and others. If you crave don't be a tough guy and think you have to be strong. When you are weak be honest and tell us." What do you mean by I think I have to be strong? I know that I am addicted and it's not gunna be easy, but if I'm weak then I'll most likely cave in and have "1 more."

I'm not trying to argue or start anything, just looking for a little clarity is all.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on February 19, 2014, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: rtpope
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Haunted - quitting sucks and then it doesn't. I think that is the best thing I read when I was on day 1. I wish I remember what bad ass quitter put it on their intro thread. I'm on Day 12 and haven't endured too much suck since day 4, until today. I dipped for 13 years, a can a day, with that shit in my lip every second of every day, sometimes including meal time.

Here's what I've learned so far: Post roll every damn day. Don't be the asshole that does it just bc...think about what you are doing. Promising yourself and all of us in your May group that you will not use nicotine today. If you lie to me I will be pissed.

Get yourself some chewing gum, sunflower seeds, fake dip, etc. I have found that fake dip helps me pass the cravings much better.

I"m quit with you today.
Thanks! Yes, I am taking it very seriously. Today is day #3 and it is pure hell. Maybe it's just because my sleep was terrible yet again, but I don't know.

So far, chewing gum and throat lozenges have been working pretty good. I have no idea how to get fake dip. Anyway, thanks, and I won't be that asshole!
Haunted,
You can get Smokey Mountain fake dip at Walmart.
Also, when you post under Quitters, not Supporters, about 1/2 way down the page.
You'll figure it out, we all screw it up.
Welcome. 21 years young and quitting. That's awesome you made this decision earlier than most.

Addiction thrives in lies and half truths. To beat addiction, you have to (at all risks) be honest to yourself and others. If you crave don't be a tough guy and think you have to be strong. When you are weak be honest and tell us. Get phone numbers you can call for support and use the numbers.

Post roll and make a promise every day with your group. Most cavers cave by one or both of these choices. 1. not posting roll or 2. drinking to a point of "fuck it" I can't be quit forever.

Stay close and freedom is possible but not to the arrogant addict that thinks they are stronger than the addiction. The addiction wins every time we start lying and trying to prove something. It has no chance if you follow the KTC Plan with exactness.

Get reading, and get ready to go to war with Hell. It gets better. I know from experience.
Thanks for the advice, man. I do plan to get some numbers and utilize them!

I am uncertain what you mean when you state: "To beat addiction, you have to (at all risks) be honest to yourself and others. If you crave don't be a tough guy and think you have to be strong. When you are weak be honest and tell us." What do you mean by I think I have to be strong? I know that I am addicted and it's not gunna be easy, but if I'm weak then I'll most likely cave in and have "1 more."

I'm not trying to argue or start anything, just looking for a little clarity is all.

Thanks!
I think he basically means to check your pride at the door and adhere to the program. QLFEDD. Ask or help if you need it. Post roll every morning. Make some friends. Focus on your quit.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 20, 2014, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: rtpope
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: peters6278
Quote from: Emulator
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Quote from: LSUTiger
Quote from: HauntedSchizo19
Hello all,

I am new to this forum, as I'm sure you can tell. I just thought I'd introduce myself, and let you know of my intentions and plans. First off, I reside in NY, and I am 20 years young. My 21st Birthday is in about a month. I thought I'd do something good for myself, and quit dip. I've been dipping for almost 7 years now.

My life got really terrible and stressful, about 3 years ago. Since then, I've been about a can a day (sometimes a bit more). I'd go to one of the Indian Reservations, to buy a couple tubs of dip because it was not only cheaper, but I'd have more for longer. Yes, I incorporated being lazy and saving money into one thing. I'm sure most have done something similar. The reason why I started this paragraph off the way I did is due to the fact that I've been relying on dip for a lot of things. One thing that I would use dip for, is to help ease some of my deeper issues like anxiety and panic attacks.

Yesterday, 02/17/2014, was my first day of quitting. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, because I simply tried to keep myself busy. It worked. There have been times where I've almost broke down and went to the store to buy a can, but remembered that I don't have any money in my wallet, so I couldn't. As the sun settled and people started doing there own thing and going to bed, I have become very anxious, and have been trying not to have any panic/anxiety attacks. I'm not sure how long I can keep it up. I know I sound like a pussy, but dip has helped me ease all of that, and I hate dealing with anxiety and panic attacks. Tonight and tomorrow is gunna be atrocious. Damn.

These are a few reasons as to why I wanna quit: oral health, lack of money, want to better my health, am going to be going to trucking school and want to get into better shape, wanna try to deal with my problems head-on (instead of hiding behind nicotine), tired of women belittling my choice in chewing tobacco. Those are a few. I know there are others, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I know it has only been a day, but I sure hope that I am strong enough to physically and mentally overcome this addiction. Today has been a test, and it hasn't been too good, especially right now as I type this. My heart pounds, and palms are sweaty. The uncomfortable feeling throughout my body, chest, and heart come into play. All I know right now is that I have no dip, and no way of getting it. I'm trapped in my mind, and hoping for something good to succumb. Has anyone else felt like this....ever!?

P.S. I have battled anxiety attacks, panic attacks, and depression, for about 4 years now. I refuse to take medication, as I want to deal with them on my own - but I've been using nicotine to help ease my pain and problems. Hmmm? I'm still not fond of using medications, however.

I am my own worst enemy, and I just hope I can be my own best friend throughout this. It's gunna be a long, up-hill, constant battle. I do need all of the help and support I can get, which is why I came here and posted. Man, I feel like I'm sounding like a pussy. The next, I might be ready to rip off your head!  'Crazy'

All I've got to say to nicotine is:  'Finger'
Welcome to the family brother. Quitting sucks. I failed several times before I found KTC. I am trying damn hard, everyday to stay quit. You will have to try everyday.

Take it one step at a time. Go that one hour. That hour will turn into a day. That day will turn into a week.

DON'T GIVE IN. 1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough....


Message me if you need my number.

P.S. Nicotine will screw with your anixety way more than it could ever "help"....
Thanks, man! I appreciate the welcome and kind words! I like the: "1 is too many, and 1000 is never enough" ain't that the God's honest truth? Thanks for the offer on the number. I more than likely will take you up on the offer. Just trying to keep sanity in tact, although that is more of an hour-to-hour basis 'bang head'
We will be there for you.. brother
Welcome HauntedSchizo19,

Congratulation on starting your new life. Man I wish I had quit when I was 21. You're in the prime of your life (well, one of them anyway) and you can do it. You will do it. You future will be so much better without nicotine.

A few notes though (if the vets don't beat me to it). Take the word 'hope' and flush it with any remnants of dip you may have laying around. There is no 'hoping' here, only 'quitting'. Hope leaves the door cracked for your addiction to work it's way back into your life. Slam that door shut, HARD. Bolt lock it. Put a chair in front of it. There is no going back. Not today.

No hope.

You WILL post roll.

You WILL worry about quitting today, and today only.

You WILL succeed if you following this path here.
Sounds like you are ready to quit. Read everything on KTC and learn. Start at the welcome center, and read a few veterans intro threads. Read HOF speeches, words of wisdom, HOL speeches, and read some cancer stories. Get yourself an education about nicotine and quitting, and what the endgame is like if you do not quit... All the knowledge you will need is on KTC.

Oh yeah, wicked awesome choice to quit! You can make it through day 1, then you can make it through another day. PM me if you need a # or have any questions.
Thanks! Yes, I'll be getting around to doing that stuff tonight, and probably a bit tomorrow. Well, probably tonight, as I'll have an incredibly difficult time trying to sleep. I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, man!
Haunted - quitting sucks and then it doesn't. I think that is the best thing I read when I was on day 1. I wish I remember what bad ass quitter put it on their intro thread. I'm on Day 12 and haven't endured too much suck since day 4, until today. I dipped for 13 years, a can a day, with that shit in my lip every second of every day, sometimes including meal time.

Here's what I've learned so far: Post roll every damn day. Don't be the asshole that does it just bc...think about what you are doing. Promising yourself and all of us in your May group that you will not use nicotine today. If you lie to me I will be pissed.

Get yourself some chewing gum, sunflower seeds, fake dip, etc. I have found that fake dip helps me pass the cravings much better.

I"m quit with you today.
Thanks! Yes, I am taking it very seriously. Today is day #3 and it is pure hell. Maybe it's just because my sleep was terrible yet again, but I don't know.

So far, chewing gum and throat lozenges have been working pretty good. I have no idea how to get fake dip. Anyway, thanks, and I won't be that asshole!
Haunted,
You can get Smokey Mountain fake dip at Walmart.
Also, when you post under Quitters, not Supporters, about 1/2 way down the page.
You'll figure it out, we all screw it up.
Welcome. 21 years young and quitting. That's awesome you made this decision earlier than most.

Addiction thrives in lies and half truths. To beat addiction, you have to (at all risks) be honest to yourself and others. If you crave don't be a tough guy and think you have to be strong. When you are weak be honest and tell us. Get phone numbers you can call for support and use the numbers.

Post roll and make a promise every day with your group. Most cavers cave by one or both of these choices. 1. not posting roll or 2. drinking to a point of "fuck it" I can't be quit forever.

Stay close and freedom is possible but not to the arrogant addict that thinks they are stronger than the addiction. The addiction wins every time we start lying and trying to prove something. It has no chance if you follow the KTC Plan with exactness.

Get reading, and get ready to go to war with Hell. It gets better. I know from experience.
Thanks for the advice, man. I do plan to get some numbers and utilize them!

I am uncertain what you mean when you state: "To beat addiction, you have to (at all risks) be honest to yourself and others. If you crave don't be a tough guy and think you have to be strong. When you are weak be honest and tell us." What do you mean by I think I have to be strong? I know that I am addicted and it's not gunna be easy, but if I'm weak then I'll most likely cave in and have "1 more."

I'm not trying to argue or start anything, just looking for a little clarity is all.

Thanks!
I think he basically means to check your pride at the door and adhere to the program. QLFEDD. Ask or help if you need it. Post roll every morning. Make some friends. Focus on your quit.
Thanks for the clarity and yes, I do plan to reach out.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 21, 2014, 12:56:00 AM
So.....

Today has been a pretty rough day. I have had cravings all day. I did not cave, but wow. I was really tested today. It's only been 4 days, but today has been probably the worst one so far. Tonight is gunna be pretty hard, as I'm craving, and anxious as hell. I won't be seeing much sleep tonight. I've made it through today, so I know I can make it through any day. I believe I was tested to see how strong I am, and how bad I truly want to quit. Well, I passed. It has been difficult, as you all know very well, but doable. I never thought it could be. Anyway, one day at a time. Tomorrow will be a better day.

For anyone who has seen my posts on roll, I realized what I was screwing up. Tomorrow when I post, I'll post in the right spot!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: srans on February 21, 2014, 08:35:00 AM
Quote
so I know I can make it through any day.
Great job! I want to reiterate one statement in your post. This ^^^^^ one.

You just went through 4 days. Freedom, smell it, taste it and feel it. If you made it 4 you can damn sure make it 5.

I hear you HS. You'll begin feeling better in time, that's a fact. I can tell you that the first three or 4 were not the hardest for me. Everything was new. I had found ktc, began making connections and reading everything I could find on nicotine/addiction. I recommend you do the same if you haven't. It was well after the first 3 or 4 for me. It's different for some people.

The emotional roller coaster can seem relentless. Realize this battle is won one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow, just today. If you don't think you can push through for the whole day, just make it that minute, or second. YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS! Ktc is here for help and guidance.

I remember sitting on my sofa and telling my wife i Didn't know how in the world I was going to get through this. I used her, ktc, determination and drive. I made it that night and pushed though a few more night. I had my mind made up brother. I wasn't going back. I was tired of giving in. 25 years I gave to the poison. CAVING WAS NOT AN OPTION!

You can and will follow through with this. First priority everyday, POST ROLL. Keep your word, no other options. Secondly, make connections with people in your group and people that have been quit for a while. You got one number right now in your inbox. Use it if you need it. If you haven't, begin reading everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Begin learning your enemy, it knows you.

5 days is no joke. Don't look now, but your quit bro. Good job. Quit with you today.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: Derk40 on February 21, 2014, 08:53:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote
so I know I can make it through any day.
Great job! I want to reiterate one statement in your post. This ^^^^^ one.

You just went through 4 days. Freedom, smell it, taste it and feel it. If you made it 4 you can damn sure make it 5.

I hear you HS. You'll begin feeling better in time, that's a fact. I can tell you that the first three or 4 were not the hardest for me. Everything was new. I had found ktc, began making connections and reading everything I could find on nicotine/addiction. I recommend you do the same if you haven't. It was well after the first 3 or 4 for me. It's different for some people.

The emotional roller coaster can seem relentless. Realize this battle is won one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow, just today. If you don't think you can push through for the whole day, just make it that minute, or second. YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS! Ktc is here for help and guidance.

I remember sitting on my sofa and telling my wife i Didn't know how in the world I was going to get through this. I used her, ktc, determination and drive. I made it that night and pushed though a few more night. I had my mind made up brother. I wasn't going back. I was tired of giving in. 25 years I gave to the poison. CAVING WAS NOT AN OPTION!

You can and will follow through with this. First priority everyday, POST ROLL. Keep your word, no other options. Secondly, make connections with people in your group and people that have been quit for a while. You got one number right now in your inbox. Use it if you need it. If you haven't, begin reading everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Begin learning your enemy, it knows you.

5 days is no joke. Don't look now, but your quit bro. Good job. Quit with you today.
Way to battle today HS!

You will be tested... use your tools to power thru it.

Post roll early is about effort... everyone screws it up early. the key is posting EDD. In time, it will be a breeze.

QLF today! I know you can stay quit today!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: Minny on February 21, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: srans
Quote
so I know I can make it through any day.
Great job! I want to reiterate one statement in your post. This ^^^^^ one.

You just went through 4 days. Freedom, smell it, taste it and feel it. If you made it 4 you can damn sure make it 5.

I hear you HS. You'll begin feeling better in time, that's a fact. I can tell you that the first three or 4 were not the hardest for me. Everything was new. I had found ktc, began making connections and reading everything I could find on nicotine/addiction. I recommend you do the same if you haven't. It was well after the first 3 or 4 for me. It's different for some people.

The emotional roller coaster can seem relentless. Realize this battle is won one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow, just today. If you don't think you can push through for the whole day, just make it that minute, or second. YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS! Ktc is here for help and guidance.

I remember sitting on my sofa and telling my wife i Didn't know how in the world I was going to get through this. I used her, ktc, determination and drive. I made it that night and pushed though a few more night. I had my mind made up brother. I wasn't going back. I was tired of giving in. 25 years I gave to the poison. CAVING WAS NOT AN OPTION!

You can and will follow through with this. First priority everyday, POST ROLL. Keep your word, no other options. Secondly, make connections with people in your group and people that have been quit for a while. You got one number right now in your inbox. Use it if you need it. If you haven't, begin reading everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Begin learning your enemy, it knows you.

5 days is no joke. Don't look now, but your quit bro. Good job. Quit with you today.
Way to battle today HS!

You will be tested... use your tools to power thru it.

Post roll early is about effort... everyone screws it up early. the key is posting EDD. In time, it will be a breeze.

QLF today! I know you can stay quit today!
X2
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 21, 2014, 12:00:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote
so I know I can make it through any day.
Great job! I want to reiterate one statement in your post. This ^^^^^ one.

You just went through 4 days. Freedom, smell it, taste it and feel it. If you made it 4 you can damn sure make it 5.

I hear you HS. You'll begin feeling better in time, that's a fact. I can tell you that the first three or 4 were not the hardest for me. Everything was new. I had found ktc, began making connections and reading everything I could find on nicotine/addiction. I recommend you do the same if you haven't. It was well after the first 3 or 4 for me. It's different for some people.

The emotional roller coaster can seem relentless. Realize this battle is won one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow, just today. If you don't think you can push through for the whole day, just make it that minute, or second. YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS! Ktc is here for help and guidance.

I remember sitting on my sofa and telling my wife i Didn't know how in the world I was going to get through this. I used her, ktc, determination and drive. I made it that night and pushed though a few more night. I had my mind made up brother. I wasn't going back. I was tired of giving in. 25 years I gave to the poison. CAVING WAS NOT AN OPTION!

You can and will follow through with this. First priority everyday, POST ROLL. Keep your word, no other options. Secondly, make connections with people in your group and people that have been quit for a while. You got one number right now in your inbox. Use it if you need it. If you haven't, begin reading everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Begin learning your enemy, it knows you.

5 days is no joke. Don't look now, but your quit bro. Good job. Quit with you today.
Thank you very much! Yesterday was pretty much an all-around shitty day. I don't know how I made it through, but I did and that's all that counts. It really made me realize that I AM CAPABLE of ANYTHING! I know it's not gunna be easy even here on out, but I've got a good idea as to what I'm up against. Not the greatest, but a better idea.

I have to agree on the emotional roller coaster. My rage and anger hasn't been too bad - manageable - but my emotions? Forget that. They've been all over the place 'Crazy'
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: HauntedSchizo19 on February 21, 2014, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: srans
Quote
so I know I can make it through any day.
Great job! I want to reiterate one statement in your post. This ^^^^^ one.

You just went through 4 days. Freedom, smell it, taste it and feel it. If you made it 4 you can damn sure make it 5.

I hear you HS. You'll begin feeling better in time, that's a fact. I can tell you that the first three or 4 were not the hardest for me. Everything was new. I had found ktc, began making connections and reading everything I could find on nicotine/addiction. I recommend you do the same if you haven't. It was well after the first 3 or 4 for me. It's different for some people.

The emotional roller coaster can seem relentless. Realize this battle is won one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow, just today. If you don't think you can push through for the whole day, just make it that minute, or second. YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS! Ktc is here for help and guidance.

I remember sitting on my sofa and telling my wife i Didn't know how in the world I was going to get through this. I used her, ktc, determination and drive. I made it that night and pushed though a few more night. I had my mind made up brother. I wasn't going back. I was tired of giving in. 25 years I gave to the poison. CAVING WAS NOT AN OPTION!

You can and will follow through with this. First priority everyday, POST ROLL. Keep your word, no other options. Secondly, make connections with people in your group and people that have been quit for a while. You got one number right now in your inbox. Use it if you need it. If you haven't, begin reading everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Begin learning your enemy, it knows you.

5 days is no joke. Don't look now, but your quit bro. Good job. Quit with you today.
Way to battle today HS!

You will be tested... use your tools to power thru it.

Post roll early is about effort... everyone screws it up early. the key is posting EDD. In time, it will be a breeze.

QLF today! I know you can stay quit today!
Thank you very much! I'm determined to succeed; therefore, I will!
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: slug.go on March 16, 2014, 11:24:00 AM
Missing 4 days in a row...?
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: rdad on March 16, 2014, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: slug.go
Missing 4 days in a row...?
Ejected from drivers seat probably. Bad roll posters waste everybody's time.
Title: Re: Quitting dip, finally!
Post by: Krusty on March 17, 2014, 02:41:00 AM
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: slug.go
Missing 4 days in a row...?
Ejected from drivers seat probably. Bad roll posters waste everybody's time.
Unfortunate -- and a bit surprising. He seemed legitimately invested in his quit, at least in terms of acknowledging  responding to all of the initial support extended his way. Three weeks obviously doesn't equate to a lifetime quit, but he seemed to be committed to it. Maybe he surprises us all soon, but otherwise moving on.