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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Clint31 on June 01, 2018, 04:19:00 AM
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This is for Brody and Harper. The two kids who are the love of my life. IÂ’m doing this because my teeth and gums hurt on the left side and I am scared. I threw the cans out. IÂ’m not gonna Do the habits anymore that lead to me dipping. I donÂ’t know how IÂ’ll do it and it is probably already too late in terms of damage done. I need a friend to help me through this. ItÂ’s my last vice and thatÂ’s why I continued on. But if I die from it IÂ’m going to die clean
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This is for Brody and Harper. The two kids who are the love of my life. IÂ’m doing this because my teeth and gums hurt on the left side and I am scared. I threw the cans out. IÂ’m not gonna Do the habits anymore that lead to me dipping. I donÂ’t know how IÂ’ll do it and it is probably already too late in terms of damage done. I need a friend to help me through this. ItÂ’s my last vice and thatÂ’s why I continued on. But if I die from it IÂ’m going to die clean
Welcome home brother! IÂ’m Day 4, youÂ’re with us, and the September group is getting 100% quit grade. EVERYBODY in this group is QUIT!!
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This is for Brody and Harper. The two kids who are the love of my life. IÂ’m doing this because my teeth and gums hurt on the left side and I am scared. I threw the cans out. IÂ’m not gonna Do the habits anymore that lead to me dipping. I donÂ’t know how IÂ’ll do it and it is probably already too late in terms of damage done. I need a friend to help me through this. ItÂ’s my last vice and thatÂ’s why I continued on. But if I die from it IÂ’m going to die clean
Welcome home brother! IÂ’m Day 4, youÂ’re with us, and the September group is getting 100% quit grade. EVERYBODY in this group is QUIT!!
Thanks for saying hi. I am afraid I have cancer oral but I donÂ’t have any spots or anything just painful gums on the left side where I put my dip, like a different pain. Maybe the root is exposed a little from it receding too much or something. Hoping ThatÂ’s all it is. Noticed it about two weeks ago.
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This is for Brody and Harper. The two kids who are the love of my life. IÂ’m doing this because my teeth and gums hurt on the left side and I am scared. I threw the cans out. IÂ’m not gonna Do the habits anymore that lead to me dipping. I donÂ’t know how IÂ’ll do it and it is probably already too late in terms of damage done. I need a friend to help me through this. ItÂ’s my last vice and thatÂ’s why I continued on. But if I die from it IÂ’m going to die clean
Welcome home brother! IÂ’m Day 4, youÂ’re with us, and the September group is getting 100% quit grade. EVERYBODY in this group is QUIT!!
Thanks for saying hi. I am afraid I have cancer oral but I donÂ’t have any spots or anything just painful gums on the left side where I put my dip, like a different pain. Maybe the root is exposed a little from it receding too much or something. Hoping ThatÂ’s all it is. Noticed it about two weeks ago.
Welcome Clint. You need to find your Quit Group (September 2018). Follow the instructions on Posting Roll there and make this Quit for real. You say that you need a friend, well this site has a community of thousands who will be there to support you and hold you accountable to your word. To tap into that, you need to get on Roll and make the promise to stay quit for today.
As for your health concerns, it's very common and you're probably alright. I definitely would get a check up and a cancer screening from the dentist, but based on the symptoms you're talking about, it's probably nothing that won't heal with time. A heads up though, early in a quit, many people will have some crazy physical symptoms and health scares. Pain, aches, flu like symptoms, etc. Some of it will be in your head, some of it due to the body's healing process. It will get better over time.
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This is for Brody and Harper. The two kids who are the love of my life. IÂ’m doing this because my teeth and gums hurt on the left side and I am scared. I threw the cans out. IÂ’m not gonna Do the habits anymore that lead to me dipping. I donÂ’t know how IÂ’ll do it and it is probably already too late in terms of damage done. I need a friend to help me through this. ItÂ’s my last vice and thatÂ’s why I continued on. But if I die from it IÂ’m going to die clean
Welcome home brother! IÂ’m Day 4, youÂ’re with us, and the September group is getting 100% quit grade. EVERYBODY in this group is QUIT!!
Thanks for saying hi. I am afraid I have cancer oral but I donÂ’t have any spots or anything just painful gums on the left side where I put my dip, like a different pain. Maybe the root is exposed a little from it receding too much or something. Hoping ThatÂ’s all it is. Noticed it about two weeks ago.
Welcome Clint. You need to find your Quit Group (September 2018). Follow the instructions on Posting Roll there and make this Quit for real. You say that you need a friend, well this site has a community of thousands who will be there to support you and hold you accountable to your word. To tap into that, you need to get on Roll and make the promise to stay quit for today.
As for your health concerns, it's very common and you're probably alright. I definitely would get a check up and a cancer screening from the dentist, but based on the symptoms you're talking about, it's probably nothing that won't heal with time. A heads up though, early in a quit, many people will have some crazy physical symptoms and health scares. Pain, aches, flu like symptoms, etc. Some of it will be in your head, some of it due to the body's healing process. It will get better over time.
I feel drowsy and bummed out. What month is my quit group
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This is for Brody and Harper. The two kids who are the love of my life. IÂ’m doing this because my teeth and gums hurt on the left side and I am scared. I threw the cans out. IÂ’m not gonna Do the habits anymore that lead to me dipping. I donÂ’t know how IÂ’ll do it and it is probably already too late in terms of damage done. I need a friend to help me through this. ItÂ’s my last vice and thatÂ’s why I continued on. But if I die from it IÂ’m going to die clean
Welcome home brother! IÂ’m Day 4, youÂ’re with us, and the September group is getting 100% quit grade. EVERYBODY in this group is QUIT!!
Thanks for saying hi. I am afraid I have cancer oral but I donÂ’t have any spots or anything just painful gums on the left side where I put my dip, like a different pain. Maybe the root is exposed a little from it receding too much or something. Hoping ThatÂ’s all it is. Noticed it about two weeks ago.
Welcome Clint. You need to find your Quit Group (September 2018). Follow the instructions on Posting Roll there and make this Quit for real. You say that you need a friend, well this site has a community of thousands who will be there to support you and hold you accountable to your word. To tap into that, you need to get on Roll and make the promise to stay quit for today.
As for your health concerns, it's very common and you're probably alright. I definitely would get a check up and a cancer screening from the dentist, but based on the symptoms you're talking about, it's probably nothing that won't heal with time. A heads up though, early in a quit, many people will have some crazy physical symptoms and health scares. Pain, aches, flu like symptoms, etc. Some of it will be in your head, some of it due to the body's healing process. It will get better over time.
I feel drowsy and bummed out. What month is my quit group
That's just part of the process. It's called the suck because it sucks.
Your Quit Group is September 2018 because that's when you'll hit 100 days, considered the first major milestone around here. You can find it here: topic/30602339/27/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30602339/27/). Instructions for posting roll should be at the top of the page. Don't worry about not doing it properly, just get your name and promise posted, then keep your word.
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You're probably fine Clint. Most dippers get some kind of mouth pains because of dip (you are tearing up your gums after all), often even in the weeks after quitting while your mouth is healing. Only a very small percentage actually have cancer. It's not uncommon in the age of the internet for people to think they have cancer for every little plain that happens. Do you want peace of mind? Go get a cancer screen from your dentist. It's highly unlikely you have anything, but even on the small chance that you do, you want to catch it as early as possible. If you buy in to KTC and post roll every morning, you'll be fine.
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I know that itÂ’s not a medical forum. Is getting mouth cancer from dip kind of a rare thing
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I know that itÂ’s not a medical forum. Is getting mouth cancer from dip kind of a rare thing
A lot of people dip and donÂ’t get cancer. Some do get cancer. Tobacco is a carcinogen, so you should go to the dentist and get yourself checked out just for your peace of mind. Odds are, as youÂ’ve been told, it is ok. But better safe than sorry.
Anxiety, especially at the beginning of a quit, is very common. You might benefit from talking to your physician about getting some relief. Many quitters do get some pharma help initially. Quitting is hard. Use whatever tools are available, except nicotine.
It gets better. I promise. One day at a time.
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Yeah IÂ’m sure it gets better but it seems like IÂ’ll enjoy everything a little less like playing video baseball games and watching baseball and basically now IÂ’ll have no vices
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Well I fucked up. That didnÂ’t take long.
So basically we took my son to get a haircut. He screamed for about an hour straight. Went to two places to get breakfast. Both grills broke, because of course. Got in a fight with my wife. Made my 3 year old daughter sad. Figured fuck it who care if something happens to me, had a dip. Read the roll call thing and tried to figure it out. Saw my post was deleted. The grizzly straight tasted absolutely disgusting and chalky more than normal. It really is gross. So if thatÂ’s any consolation. I did throw it out. Back to square one. So I failed.
My tooth on the left side of my mouth is extra exposed- the gum line is far down receded. I am hoping (I think) thatÂ’s what the strange pain is from that led me here. I do think thatÂ’s why IÂ’m gonna stay quit. ItÂ’s not a front tooth. ItÂ’s the bottom tooth before mollars start. G
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Well I fucked up. That didnÂ’t take long.
So basically we took my son to get a haircut. He screamed for about an hour straight. Went to two places to get breakfast. Both grills broke, because of course. Got in a fight with my wife. Made my 3 year old daughter sad. Figured fuck it who care if something happens to me, had a dip. Read the roll call thing and tried to figure it out. Saw my post was deleted. The grizzly straight tasted absolutely disgusting and chalky more than normal. It really is gross. So if thatÂ’s any consolation. I did throw it out. Back to square one. So I failed.
My tooth on the left side of my mouth is extra exposed- the gum line is far down receded. I am hoping (I think) thatÂ’s what the strange pain is from that led me here. I do think thatÂ’s why IÂ’m gonna stay quit. ItÂ’s not a front tooth. ItÂ’s the bottom tooth before mollars start. G
Go get your ass on roll, and quit fuckin around.
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Well I fucked up. That didnÂ’t take long.
So basically we took my son to get a haircut. He screamed for about an hour straight. Went to two places to get breakfast. Both grills broke, because of course. Got in a fight with my wife. Made my 3 year old daughter sad. Figured fuck it who care if something happens to me, had a dip. Read the roll call thing and tried to figure it out. Saw my post was deleted. The grizzly straight tasted absolutely disgusting and chalky more than normal. It really is gross. So if thatÂ’s any consolation. I did throw it out. Back to square one. So I failed.
My tooth on the left side of my mouth is extra exposed- the gum line is far down receded. I am hoping (I think) thatÂ’s what the strange pain is from that led me here. I do think thatÂ’s why IÂ’m gonna stay quit. ItÂ’s not a front tooth. ItÂ’s the bottom tooth before mollars start. G
Go get your ass on roll, and quit fuckin around.
I did man, and it was deleted.
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Well I fucked up. That didnÂ’t take long.
So basically we took my son to get a haircut. He screamed for about an hour straight. Went to two places to get breakfast. Both grills broke, because of course. Got in a fight with my wife. Made my 3 year old daughter sad. Figured fuck it who care if something happens to me, had a dip. Read the roll call thing and tried to figure it out. Saw my post was deleted. The grizzly straight tasted absolutely disgusting and chalky more than normal. It really is gross. So if thatÂ’s any consolation. I did throw it out. Back to square one. So I failed.
My tooth on the left side of my mouth is extra exposed- the gum line is far down receded. I am hoping (I think) thatÂ’s what the strange pain is from that led me here. I do think thatÂ’s why IÂ’m gonna stay quit. ItÂ’s not a front tooth. ItÂ’s the bottom tooth before mollars start. G
Go get your ass on roll, and quit fuckin around.
I did man, and it was deleted.
Dude what the everloving fuck? I saw that you made a post making a promise in the September group at around 8:30am and then this?! Your post not getting picked up doesn't negate that promise. Not having your name on the board doesn't give you free reign to step back on the word you gave three GD hours ago!
You need to do some serious freaking reflection on if this is really right for you. We don't try around here, this is for real Quit only. If you don't really want that, then you don't need to be here.
Spend some serious thought on whether you really want to be quit and are willing to actually work for it before considering posting here again.
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Well I fucked up. That didnÂ’t take long.
So basically we took my son to get a haircut. He screamed for about an hour straight. Went to two places to get breakfast. Both grills broke, because of course. Got in a fight with my wife. Made my 3 year old daughter sad. Figured fuck it who care if something happens to me, had a dip. Read the roll call thing and tried to figure it out. Saw my post was deleted. The grizzly straight tasted absolutely disgusting and chalky more than normal. It really is gross. So if thatÂ’s any consolation. I did throw it out. Back to square one. So I failed.
My tooth on the left side of my mouth is extra exposed- the gum line is far down receded. I am hoping (I think) thatÂ’s what the strange pain is from that led me here. I do think thatÂ’s why IÂ’m gonna stay quit. ItÂ’s not a front tooth. ItÂ’s the bottom tooth before mollars start. G
Go get your ass on roll, and quit fuckin around.
I did man, and it was deleted.
Dude what the everloving fuck? I saw that you made a post making a promise in the September group at around 8:30am and then this?! Your post not getting picked up doesn't negate that promise. Not having your name on the board doesn't give you free reign to step back on the word you gave three GD hours ago!
You need to do some serious freaking reflection on if this is really right for you. We don't try around here, this is for real Quit only. If you don't really want that, then you don't need to be here.
Spend some serious thought on whether you really want to be quit and are willing to actually work for it before considering posting here again.
You caved because the restaurant grills were broke?
Pull your head out and quit.
Go post a day one in September.
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Well I fucked up. That didnÂ’t take long.
So basically we took my son to get a haircut. He screamed for about an hour straight. Went to two places to get breakfast. Both grills broke, because of course. Got in a fight with my wife. Made my 3 year old daughter sad. Figured fuck it who care if something happens to me, had a dip. Read the roll call thing and tried to figure it out. Saw my post was deleted. The grizzly straight tasted absolutely disgusting and chalky more than normal. It really is gross. So if thatÂ’s any consolation. I did throw it out. Back to square one. So I failed.
My tooth on the left side of my mouth is extra exposed- the gum line is far down receded. I am hoping (I think) thatÂ’s what the strange pain is from that led me here. I do think thatÂ’s why IÂ’m gonna stay quit. ItÂ’s not a front tooth. ItÂ’s the bottom tooth before mollars start. G
Go get your ass on roll, and quit fuckin around.
I did man, and it was deleted.
Dude what the everloving fuck? I saw that you made a post making a promise in the September group at around 8:30am and then this?! Your post not getting picked up doesn't negate that promise. Not having your name on the board doesn't give you free reign to step back on the word you gave three GD hours ago!
You need to do some serious freaking reflection on if this is really right for you. We don't try around here, this is for real Quit only. If you don't really want that, then you don't need to be here.
Spend some serious thought on whether you really want to be quit and are willing to actually work for it before considering posting here again.
I think itÂ’s for me. I am going to stop
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Well I fucked up. That didnÂ’t take long.
So basically we took my son to get a haircut. He screamed for about an hour straight. Went to two places to get breakfast. Both grills broke, because of course. Got in a fight with my wife. Made my 3 year old daughter sad. Figured fuck it who care if something happens to me, had a dip. Read the roll call thing and tried to figure it out. Saw my post was deleted. The grizzly straight tasted absolutely disgusting and chalky more than normal. It really is gross. So if thatÂ’s any consolation. I did throw it out. Back to square one. So I failed.
My tooth on the left side of my mouth is extra exposed- the gum line is far down receded. I am hoping (I think) thatÂ’s what the strange pain is from that led me here. I do think thatÂ’s why IÂ’m gonna stay quit. ItÂ’s not a front tooth. ItÂ’s the bottom tooth before mollars start. G
Go get your ass on roll, and quit fuckin around.
I did man, and it was deleted.
Dude what the everloving fuck? I saw that you made a post making a promise in the September group at around 8:30am and then this?! Your post not getting picked up doesn't negate that promise. Not having your name on the board doesn't give you free reign to step back on the word you gave three GD hours ago!
You need to do some serious freaking reflection on if this is really right for you. We don't try around here, this is for real Quit only. If you don't really want that, then you don't need to be here.
Spend some serious thought on whether you really want to be quit and are willing to actually work for it before considering posting here again.
I think itÂ’s for me. I am going to stop
I think itÂ’s for me. I am going to stop
I highlighted the problem. Buddy, if you're going to do this, you've gotta know that when you wake up and post roll, that means you will not fail today. "Think" means that maybe you will, but then again, you could be wrong. You've got to know that you want to quit.
"Stop" also means that you might very well start again. I Stop at a redlight, but I know that it will turn green again in a minute. You need to Quit. Quit means that you don't do it anymore.
The difference between failure and success is the difference between "I think it's for me. I'm going to stop." and "I know it's for me. I am Quit."
I do know that you CAN do this. I did it and I'm not special. Nicotine withdrawal will not kill you and the only way that you can fail is if you make the decision to fail. Success isn't easy, but it is achievable. Go achieve it today and then repeat that tomorrow.
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
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Seen a lot of talk about “keep drinking water”. Do guys find that helps? For those that it helped what’s the thought behind it?
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
Hi Clint. Here our word is all we have. You gave your word, then you broke it like immediately. Yeah you admitted it, but you are gonna get some shit and quite honestly you earned that. Click on TraumagnetÂ’s thread at the top of this intro page. Start on page 1. Last night you were scared of cancer. Well read what this shit did to my 49 year old friend in Minot ND. Take a couple of hours and read every post.
You can do this. Everyone here wants to see youvwin. Read traumas intro. Then, if you want my help, shoot me a PM. I only help winners, and though you are off on a shaky start, I see some win in you. It does get better. Today isnÂ’t the new you. But you MUST honor your word. And your teammates.
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
Hi Clint. Here our word is all we have. You gave your word, then you broke it like immediately. Yeah you admitted it, but you are gonna get some shit and quite honestly you earned that. Click on TraumagnetÂ’s thread at the top of this intro page. Start on page 1. Last night you were scared of cancer. Well read what this shit did to my 49 year old friend in Minot ND. Take a couple of hours and read every post.
You can do this. Everyone here wants to see youvwin. Read traumas intro. Then, if you want my help, shoot me a PM. I only help winners, and though you are off on a shaky start, I see some win in you. It does get better. Today isnÂ’t the new you. But you MUST honor your word. And your teammates.
Exactly.
How you treated your teammates, was to lie to them.
Get back in there, show some respect to your teammates,
and post a day one on roll.
That's how we do it here.
You can fight the system, you can try your own way...
But your way has never worked.
That's why you're here.
So let's go.
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
Hi Clint. Here our word is all we have. You gave your word, then you broke it like immediately. Yeah you admitted it, but you are gonna get some shit and quite honestly you earned that. Click on TraumagnetÂ’s thread at the top of this intro page. Start on page 1. Last night you were scared of cancer. Well read what this shit did to my 49 year old friend in Minot ND. Take a couple of hours and read every post.
You can do this. Everyone here wants to see youvwin. Read traumas intro. Then, if you want my help, shoot me a PM. I only help winners, and though you are off on a shaky start, I see some win in you. It does get better. Today isnÂ’t the new you. But you MUST honor your word. And your teammates.
Can you link me traumagnets intro thread? I have been searching for a half hour and still canÂ’t find it. I am scared of cancer, that I already have it. And too scared to even go get screened
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
Hi Clint. Here our word is all we have. You gave your word, then you broke it like immediately. Yeah you admitted it, but you are gonna get some shit and quite honestly you earned that. Click on TraumagnetÂ’s thread at the top of this intro page. Start on page 1. Last night you were scared of cancer. Well read what this shit did to my 49 year old friend in Minot ND. Take a couple of hours and read every post.
You can do this. Everyone here wants to see youvwin. Read traumas intro. Then, if you want my help, shoot me a PM. I only help winners, and though you are off on a shaky start, I see some win in you. It does get better. Today isnÂ’t the new you. But you MUST honor your word. And your teammates.
Can you link me traumagnets intro thread? I have been searching for a half hour and still canÂ’t find it. I am scared of cancer, that I already have it. And too scared to even go get screened
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M)
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I found and read it. Very powerful stuff. I can stay quit.
Mostly just concerned about this left side of my bottom gum. Like the root is exposed or whatever and it ached different there than the last decade prior the last week when I put a dip in that side. Is that typical of cancer or just a receded gum line and exposed tooth/root
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
Hi Clint. Here our word is all we have. You gave your word, then you broke it like immediately. Yeah you admitted it, but you are gonna get some shit and quite honestly you earned that. Click on TraumagnetÂ’s thread at the top of this intro page. Start on page 1. Last night you were scared of cancer. Well read what this shit did to my 49 year old friend in Minot ND. Take a couple of hours and read every post.
You can do this. Everyone here wants to see youvwin. Read traumas intro. Then, if you want my help, shoot me a PM. I only help winners, and though you are off on a shaky start, I see some win in you. It does get better. Today isnÂ’t the new you. But you MUST honor your word. And your teammates.
Can you link me traumagnets intro thread? I have been searching for a half hour and still canÂ’t find it. I am scared of cancer, that I already have it. And too scared to even go get screened
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M)
The best way to not get cancer? Quit. The best way to quit? You found it.
Post your promise. First thing every day when your eyes open. FIRST THING. Then, no matter what, you keep your word. Reach out to us when you need ya. Brother we will do anything to help you quit. Leon (Sean) is a Yoda-like quitter. Other guys reaching out to you, like Vegas, are fucking bad ass hard core newbies. IÂ’ll be happy to help you. Use the resources. Post roll. You can do this.
Trauma chewed for 30 years. Gutted the shit for the whole time. His story is rare, but bro it is real. His son Seth and his wife Brenda are still struggling to find their footing. Tobacco can fuck off. I know you are nervous. Anxious. Scared. Clint this feeling is common. Go to a dentist next week. Almost certainly you are ok. Get it over with. There is nothing to be scared of in terms of the dentist. Tell them you are quit and youÂ’ll get lots of props. But go. DonÂ’t put it off. You know the right thing to do.
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
Hi Clint. Here our word is all we have. You gave your word, then you broke it like immediately. Yeah you admitted it, but you are gonna get some shit and quite honestly you earned that. Click on TraumagnetÂ’s thread at the top of this intro page. Start on page 1. Last night you were scared of cancer. Well read what this shit did to my 49 year old friend in Minot ND. Take a couple of hours and read every post.
You can do this. Everyone here wants to see youvwin. Read traumas intro. Then, if you want my help, shoot me a PM. I only help winners, and though you are off on a shaky start, I see some win in you. It does get better. Today isnÂ’t the new you. But you MUST honor your word. And your teammates.
Can you link me traumagnets intro thread? I have been searching for a half hour and still canÂ’t find it. I am scared of cancer, that I already have it. And too scared to even go get screened
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M)
The best way to not get cancer? Quit. The best way to quit? You found it.
Post your promise. First thing every day when your eyes open. FIRST THING. Then, no matter what, you keep your word. Reach out to us when you need ya. Brother we will do anything to help you quit. Leon (Sean) is a Yoda-like quitter. Other guys reaching out to you, like Vegas, are fucking bad ass hard core newbies. IÂ’ll be happy to help you. Use the resources. Post roll. You can do this.
Trauma chewed for 30 years. Gutted the shit for the whole time. His story is rare, but bro it is real. His son Seth and his wife Brenda are still struggling to find their footing. Tobacco can fuck off. I know you are nervous. Anxious. Scared. Clint this feeling is common. Go to a dentist next week. Almost certainly you are ok. Get it over with. There is nothing to be scared of in terms of the dentist. Tell them you are quit and youÂ’ll get lots of props. But go. DonÂ’t put it off. You know the right thing to do.
Clint... listen to this^^^^ guy right here.
I am fortunate enough to be in his corner and him in mine.
Freedom is amazing, we were all slaves in numerous ways for way too long.
Drink the Kool-Aid and read as much as you can.... get to the dentist NEXT WEEK and scream from the mountains when they say you are all good.... we will all rejoice with you dude.
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I found and read it. Very powerful stuff. I can stay quit.
Mostly just concerned about this left side of my bottom gum. Like the root is exposed or whatever and it ached different there than the last decade prior the last week when I put a dip in that side. Is that typical of cancer or just a receded gum line and exposed tooth/root
Not a dentist here and if I were IÂ’m sure IÂ’d need to see your mouth to diagnose. ThatÂ’s why it is so important that you go to the dentist next week and give a professional a chance to look you over and set your mind at ease.
Are you the first person that has come here complaining of/worrying about these symptoms? Lord no. The others that IÂ’ve seen went to a dentist, reluctantly, and were thankful that they did.
Look forward to seeing your name on roll tomorrow and a good report from the dentist next week!
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Carpe diem
Will you post roll today? Will you honor your word?
ThereÂ’s only one way to quit that ever worked for me and thousands of others. You are so close. Join us. Post roll. Win.
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IÂ’m here you fucks. For day two or one half or one or whatever it is.
My teeth hurt so bad. I couldnÂ’t wake up this morning. I took a sleeping pill to sleep.
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I cannot find sept 2018 in my quit groups forums
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I cannot find sept 2018 in my quit groups forums
I got it. Posted roll. Sorry for being a dumbass. It can be a lot to navigate in here sometimes
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I cannot find sept 2018 in my quit groups forums
I got it. Posted roll. Sorry for being a dumbass. It can be a lot to navigate in here sometimes
Glad to see you back! Yeah this site can take a little while to figure out, but itÂ’s worth the effort. Spending a little time learning to navigate here can be a helpful distraction sometimes.
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My wife took a look in my mouth today and didnÂ’t like what she saw. After a long night of sleep it was really white on my right side. I had not been putting any dips on my left for 10-14 days bc it hurt badly, maybe from the receding gum line, I hope.
Pretty worried but what can I do.
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Read 90% of Traumagents thread last night. One thing stuck out to me, I am 35. He mentioned that he felt early on poor circulation in his legs or something. I have had that more than ever lately too, especially in my left leg, foot, hand etc. wonder if there is any connection to dip.
I did have a full cardiac check up recently and the cardiologist was adamant; no peripheral artery disease. IÂ’m not really overweight. I just wonder if thereÂ’s any connection.
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I know IÂ’m talking to myself. Kind of part of me getting through this. Maybe some day many moons from now IÂ’ll get to look at these posts and laugh.
Is it typical of nicotine withdrawal to feel kinda weak legs and jello-y. Almost like you donÂ’t have your usual energy or spring in your legs?
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I know IÂ’m talking to myself. Kind of part of me getting through this. Maybe some day many moons from now IÂ’ll get to look at these posts and laugh.
Is it typical of nicotine withdrawal to feel kinda weak legs and jello-y. Almost like you donÂ’t have your usual energy or spring in your legs?
Every quit is slightly different. We have what we call the Fog, or the Suck. Embrace the Suck, that's a sign that you are breaking free. Listen to what these brothers are telling you. Get some numbers and get active. Deal with your medical concerns within a couple weeks. Just focus on getting free today. I dipped and smoked for 35 years, if I could quit, anyone can (been free since 9/28/12). You are not unique, you're an addict like us. Let us help you. If I end up dying from this shit, I want to die free. Focus on that.
Here's what worked for me early on, besides posting daily and trying to reach out to other quitters: drink water to flush your system, stay away from booze, get more sleep if you can, avoid unnecessary stress (for me, the news), take a daily walk (I stopped and did mine on the way home from work, so I could chill the hell out before going home to see my family), lift a little weights to work off aggression.
Don't let quitting be an excuse to be an asshole to everyone in your life. Come be an asshole to us, we can take it. Treasure every second of freedom. Realize that every minute of suffering is your body and mind breaking free from being a slave for however many years. It's the authentic you being reborn. Be proud of that.
Recognize that nothing can happen to you today that taking a dip will make it better; it'll make it worse, you still have the original problem, plus now you have the problem of being a slave to nic again. Never again for any reason.
PM me for my number, I'll talk to you anytime.
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I know IÂ’m talking to myself. Kind of part of me getting through this. Maybe some day many moons from now IÂ’ll get to look at these posts and laugh.
Is it typical of nicotine withdrawal to feel kinda weak legs and jello-y. Almost like you donÂ’t have your usual energy or spring in your legs?
Every quit is slightly different. We have what we call the Fog, or the Suck. Embrace the Suck, that's a sign that you are breaking free. Listen to what these brothers are telling you. Get some numbers and get active. Deal with your medical concerns within a couple weeks. Just focus on getting free today. I dipped and smoked for 35 years, if I could quit, anyone can (been free since 9/28/12). You are not unique, you're an addict like us. Let us help you. If I end up dying from this shit, I want to die free. Focus on that.
Here's what worked for me early on, besides posting daily and trying to reach out to other quitters: drink water to flush your system, stay away from booze, get more sleep if you can, avoid unnecessary stress (for me, the news), take a daily walk (I stopped and did mine on the way home from work, so I could chill the hell out before going home to see my family), lift a little weights to work off aggression.
Don't let quitting be an excuse to be an asshole to everyone in your life. Come be an asshole to us, we can take it. Treasure every second of freedom. Realize that every minute of suffering is your body and mind breaking free from being a slave for however many years. It's the authentic you being reborn. Be proud of that.
Recognize that nothing can happen to you today that taking a dip will make it better; it'll make it worse, you still have the original problem, plus now you have the problem of being a slave to nic again. Never again for any reason.
PM me for my number, I'll talk to you anytime.
Thanks Zeno, brother.
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We really need to know Clint, is this a quit? Or is this merely another break from dipping? I want to get a thing or two straight here. We are here to help people quit. Not merely take a break. You have never quit dipping before, not in 2015, not in 2018, never. You have merely paused in your chewing. How do I know? Because today is your day 1. If you had quit before, today would not be day 1. You cannot quit for your children. You cannot quit for your wife. You cannot quit for anybody but you. You have to develop a hatred for tobacco and stop romancing it. Why do I say you are romancing it? Kids scream for an hour and get on your nerves, what happens? You grab a dip. Wife and you get in a fight, what happens? You grab a dip. You love your wife? Love your kids? Why do you want to get mad at them and put poison in your mouth? Is this going to turn into a quit, or a break?
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We really need to know Clint, is this a quit? Or is this merely another break from dipping? I want to get a thing or two straight here. We are here to help people quit. Not merely take a break. You have never quit dipping before, not in 2015, not in 2018, never. You have merely paused in your chewing. How do I know? Because today is your day 1. If you had quit before, today would not be day 1. You cannot quit for your children. You cannot quit for your wife. You cannot quit for anybody but you. You have to develop a hatred for tobacco and stop romancing it. Why do I say you are romancing it? Kids scream for an hour and get on your nerves, what happens? You grab a dip. Wife and you get in a fight, what happens? You grab a dip. You love your wife? Love your kids? Why do you want to get mad at them and put poison in your mouth? Is this going to turn into a quit, or a break?
I donÂ’t know man. All I know is today IÂ’m quit. I believe I will quit. I know I canÂ’t continue without it killing me.
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We really need to know Clint, is this a quit? Or is this merely another break from dipping? I want to get a thing or two straight here. We are here to help people quit. Not merely take a break. You have never quit dipping before, not in 2015, not in 2018, never. You have merely paused in your chewing. How do I know? Because today is your day 1. If you had quit before, today would not be day 1. You cannot quit for your children. You cannot quit for your wife. You cannot quit for anybody but you. You have to develop a hatred for tobacco and stop romancing it. Why do I say you are romancing it? Kids scream for an hour and get on your nerves, what happens? You grab a dip. Wife and you get in a fight, what happens? You grab a dip. You love your wife? Love your kids? Why do you want to get mad at them and put poison in your mouth? Is this going to turn into a quit, or a break?
I donÂ’t know man. All I know is today IÂ’m quit. I believe I will quit. I know I canÂ’t continue without it killing me.
Welcome brother! Glad you are here.
Remember... post first thing. Keep your word.
Nicotine fucks with your cardiovascular system majorly. Quitting reverses that. YouÂ’ll feel better soon enough. Call the dentist tomorrow.
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We really need to know Clint, is this a quit? Or is this merely another break from dipping? I want to get a thing or two straight here. We are here to help people quit. Not merely take a break. You have never quit dipping before, not in 2015, not in 2018, never. You have merely paused in your chewing. How do I know? Because today is your day 1. If you had quit before, today would not be day 1. You cannot quit for your children. You cannot quit for your wife. You cannot quit for anybody but you. You have to develop a hatred for tobacco and stop romancing it. Why do I say you are romancing it? Kids scream for an hour and get on your nerves, what happens? You grab a dip. Wife and you get in a fight, what happens? You grab a dip. You love your wife? Love your kids? Why do you want to get mad at them and put poison in your mouth? Is this going to turn into a quit, or a break?
I donÂ’t know man. All I know is today IÂ’m quit. I believe I will quit. I know I canÂ’t continue without it killing me.
Welcome brother! Glad you are here.
Remember... post first thing. Keep your word.
Nicotine fucks with your cardiovascular system majorly. Quitting reverses that. YouÂ’ll feel better soon enough. Call the dentist tomorrow.
TowinÂ’ - what does it do to the cardio system
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We really need to know Clint, is this a quit? Or is this merely another break from dipping? I want to get a thing or two straight here. We are here to help people quit. Not merely take a break. You have never quit dipping before, not in 2015, not in 2018, never. You have merely paused in your chewing. How do I know? Because today is your day 1. If you had quit before, today would not be day 1. You cannot quit for your children. You cannot quit for your wife. You cannot quit for anybody but you. You have to develop a hatred for tobacco and stop romancing it. Why do I say you are romancing it? Kids scream for an hour and get on your nerves, what happens? You grab a dip. Wife and you get in a fight, what happens? You grab a dip. You love your wife? Love your kids? Why do you want to get mad at them and put poison in your mouth? Is this going to turn into a quit, or a break?
I donÂ’t know man. All I know is today IÂ’m quit. I believe I will quit. I know I canÂ’t continue without it killing me.
Welcome brother! Glad you are here.
Remember... post first thing. Keep your word.
Nicotine fucks with your cardiovascular system majorly. Quitting reverses that. YouÂ’ll feel better soon enough. Call the dentist tomorrow.
TowinÂ’ - what does it do to the cardio system
Constricts blood vessels. Drives blood pressure up. That drives a lot of badness.
Quitting fixes that almost instantly.
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We really need to know Clint, is this a quit? Or is this merely another break from dipping? I want to get a thing or two straight here. We are here to help people quit. Not merely take a break. You have never quit dipping before, not in 2015, not in 2018, never. You have merely paused in your chewing. How do I know? Because today is your day 1. If you had quit before, today would not be day 1. You cannot quit for your children. You cannot quit for your wife. You cannot quit for anybody but you. You have to develop a hatred for tobacco and stop romancing it. Why do I say you are romancing it? Kids scream for an hour and get on your nerves, what happens? You grab a dip. Wife and you get in a fight, what happens? You grab a dip. You love your wife? Love your kids? Why do you want to get mad at them and put poison in your mouth? Is this going to turn into a quit, or a break?
I donÂ’t know man. All I know is today IÂ’m quit. I believe I will quit. I know I canÂ’t continue without it killing me.
Welcome brother! Glad you are here.
Remember... post first thing. Keep your word.
Nicotine fucks with your cardiovascular system majorly. Quitting reverses that. YouÂ’ll feel better soon enough. Call the dentist tomorrow.
TowinÂ’ - what does it do to the cardio system
Constricts blood vessels. Drives blood pressure up. That drives a lot of badness.
Quitting fixes that almost instantly.
Yeah my cardiologist actually said this. He used to be a dipper
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
Hi Clint. Here our word is all we have. You gave your word, then you broke it like immediately. Yeah you admitted it, but you are gonna get some shit and quite honestly you earned that. Click on TraumagnetÂ’s thread at the top of this intro page. Start on page 1. Last night you were scared of cancer. Well read what this shit did to my 49 year old friend in Minot ND. Take a couple of hours and read every post.
You can do this. Everyone here wants to see youvwin. Read traumas intro. Then, if you want my help, shoot me a PM. I only help winners, and though you are off on a shaky start, I see some win in you. It does get better. Today isnÂ’t the new you. But you MUST honor your word. And your teammates.
Can you link me traumagnets intro thread? I have been searching for a half hour and still canÂ’t find it. I am scared of cancer, that I already have it. And too scared to even go get screened
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M)
That’s it huh? Gonna save being a dick comment but turning your nose up on here with the “it’s super easy” horse shit is kinda old.
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Boy one thing I can say is after you know mentally youÂ’re really gonna quit is the stuff really tastes like shit doesnÂ’t it
How the fuck would I know?
When I decided I was really gonna quit, I quit.
Go post roll in September 18.
Otherwise you're just blowin smoke.
WhatÂ’s up with the disrespect and talking to me this way man? This isnÂ’t how I treated teammates or brotherhood or friends... I posted in roll today.
Hi Clint. Here our word is all we have. You gave your word, then you broke it like immediately. Yeah you admitted it, but you are gonna get some shit and quite honestly you earned that. Click on TraumagnetÂ’s thread at the top of this intro page. Start on page 1. Last night you were scared of cancer. Well read what this shit did to my 49 year old friend in Minot ND. Take a couple of hours and read every post.
You can do this. Everyone here wants to see youvwin. Read traumas intro. Then, if you want my help, shoot me a PM. I only help winners, and though you are off on a shaky start, I see some win in you. It does get better. Today isnÂ’t the new you. But you MUST honor your word. And your teammates.
Can you link me traumagnets intro thread? I have been searching for a half hour and still canÂ’t find it. I am scared of cancer, that I already have it. And too scared to even go get screened
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M)
That’s it huh? Gonna save being a dick comment but turning your nose up on here with the “it’s super easy” horse shit is kinda old.
Nah, itÂ’s not easy, but itÂ’s well worth it. HavenÂ’t been this happy in a long time, no thanks to dip. IÂ’m not the enemy here bud, dip is, donÂ’t worry about anyone else but you and youÂ’ll make it through this. Enjoy the quit, youÂ’ll miss it one day I promise.
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Gonna call my dentist today.
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Went to the sauna today. Best I have felt so far. Going to keep going every day. Maybe even at night if things get bad.
Called my dentist. Made appointment for in two weeks. Hope things are calm by then. Got some red hot losenge candies, which I guess are better than nothing.
Some dizziness, some sweats at weird time or hot flashes but probably to be expected. Just trying to do today and not worry about all the activities in the future in which I will miss dip.Â’
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Anyone ever experienced hot skin/hot flashes and intermittent chills during their quit?
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Anyone ever experienced hot skin/hot flashes and intermittent chills during their quit?
First, EXCELLENT news that youÂ’ve called the dentist. Good move, will put your mind in a better spot. Do not ever forget how you feel right now.
The symptoms you are describing are very common at first. Very. I would suggest posting these questions in your posting group, as many of those guys are probably experiencing these symptoms right now also.
Dude you are doing great. You are winning.
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My cognitive is slow and Impaired.
I feel almost like a depersonalization. Like spacey in my head. At times dizziness.
Is this the fog
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My cognitive is slow and Impaired.
I feel almost like a depersonalization. Like spacey in my head. At times dizziness.
Is this the fog
Yes it is, it's normal. The fog is different for everyone. I've even seen someone say they didn't feel comfortable driving while in the fog. By the way, I'm glad you finally made a dentist appointment. Keep it up man. Keep using the site and all of its resources. Keep talking to people. Keep posting updates in here like it's a journal. Be confident in your quit. Turn all of your "I believe" and "I think" language into confident "I will" language. Be arrogant with confidence if you have to, that's what I'm doing. Anything to stay quit and add accountability will help.
If you think someone is being disrespectful to you, just use it to fuel your quit. They do it because they see the cracks in your quit and they want to motivate you. Drink the KTC Kool Aid and you'll be alright.
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Well IÂ’m fiending right now. Oddly I cannot stop thinking about a tin of Copenhagen. Fine cut or long cut. Which is odd because itÂ’s not even my dip of choice. I just want some. I know itÂ’s wrong. I am trying to think of something else I really want, but not a lot of places are open.
I did the sauna again today for as long as I could stand. I like doing it. It seems like it helps detox. I know from Rogans show it has a ton of benefits. When I leave there my skin burns all night. Maybe from detox or maybe itÂ’s a result of no more poison in me.
I also went on about an hour walk and listened to some baseball on the radio. I did not think of dip then. I but here in bed trying to sleep I am craving it. Its the dopamine receptor thing. Have a headache. Just trying to put everything down here. Maybe someday I can look back and see how far I came. I just really want that cope right now as wrong as it is and even though I know it does not do anything for me. I am having a lot of talks with myself trying to talk myself out of the wrong doing and wrong decision.
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Well IÂ’m fiending right now. Oddly I cannot stop thinking about a tin of Copenhagen. Fine cut or long cut. Which is odd because itÂ’s not even my dip of choice. I just want some. I know itÂ’s wrong. I am trying to think of something else I really want, but not a lot of places are open.
I did the sauna again today for as long as I could stand. I like doing it. It seems like it helps detox. I know from Rogans show it has a ton of benefits. When I leave there my skin burns all night. Maybe from detox or maybe itÂ’s a result of no more poison in me.
I also went on about an hour walk and listened to some baseball on the radio. I did not think of dip then. I but here in bed trying to sleep I am craving it. Its the dopamine receptor thing. Have a headache. Just trying to put everything down here. Maybe someday I can look back and see how far I came. I just really want that cope right now as wrong as it is and even though I know it does not do anything for me. I am having a lot of talks with myself trying to talk myself out of the wrong doing and wrong decision.
Here's what I can tell you Clint... you made a promise to me in the September group that you would not use today. I made that same promise to you. What is stronger inside you? Is it your word or is it it your desire to give into a dead plant that is served up in a tin that tells us we can get cancer from it? If you are any kind of person, your word to not dip will overwhelm that desire you are feeling.
If you need me I am but a message away. Don't go back on your word.
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Well IÂ’m fiending right now. Oddly I cannot stop thinking about a tin of Copenhagen. Fine cut or long cut. Which is odd because itÂ’s not even my dip of choice. I just want some. I know itÂ’s wrong. I am trying to think of something else I really want, but not a lot of places are open.
I did the sauna again today for as long as I could stand. I like doing it. It seems like it helps detox. I know from Rogans show it has a ton of benefits. When I leave there my skin burns all night. Maybe from detox or maybe itÂ’s a result of no more poison in me.
I also went on about an hour walk and listened to some baseball on the radio. I did not think of dip then. I but here in bed trying to sleep I am craving it. Its the dopamine receptor thing. Have a headache. Just trying to put everything down here. Maybe someday I can look back and see how far I came. I just really want that cope right now as wrong as it is and even though I know it does not do anything for me. I am having a lot of talks with myself trying to talk myself out of the wrong doing and wrong decision.
Here's what I can tell you Clint... you made a promise to me in the September group that you would not use today. I made that same promise to you. What is stronger inside you? Is it your word or is it it your desire to give into a dead plant that is served up in a tin that tells us we can get cancer from it? If you are any kind of person, your word to not dip will overwhelm that desire you are feeling.
If you need me I am but a message away. Don't go back on your word.
When youÂ’re struggling like that, just know that it gets better. Every time you defeat a crave, your brain creates new synapses and responses. ItÂ’s literally rewiring itself to help you survive without nicotine.
ItÂ’s a painful process and definitely doesnÂ’t happen overnight. However, every single time youÂ’re feinding and you donÂ’t give in, youÂ’ve taken one big step towards freedom. Those craves really do go away.
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Got a milk shake and some other horrible stuff instead late last night. Instead of cancer IÂ’ll have diabetes and be a fat ass!!
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Got a milk shake and some other horrible stuff instead late last night. Instead of cancer IÂ’ll have diabetes and be a fat ass!!
Better than dip my man. A lot of people have said they gain weight from quitting. That's temporary though. It's because you're not thinking about dip while you're shoving your face full of food. I know I've been eating a lot more since I've quit, but fuck it. That's better than putting straight up cancer nasty filth in my mouth. Big Macs Cat shit.
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Chewing my first bacccoff today. ItÂ’s ok. Better than nothing but nothing like the real thing. Oh well.
Definitely feel like I have some gum problem. Burns on my left side and feels receded. Sentinel may be exposed. Interested to see what I have done to myself when I see my dentist
Anyways itÂ’s prettt much day 6. I have fog and anxiety and slow thinking still. Just need to hang in there. IÂ’ve never mentally stuck with the thought that I know IÂ’m done this long
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To anyone who sees this can you please list any physical symptoms you had with your quit. I am either imagining things or itÂ’s:
Diarrhea slight
Horrible crippling migraines
Slow thought/confusion
Brain foggy
Anxiety
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To anyone who sees this can you please list any physical symptoms you had with your quit. I am either imagining things or itÂ’s:
Diarrhea slight
Horrible crippling migraines
Slow thought/confusion
Brain foggy
Anxiety
Definitely anxiety
foggyness/slow thought/confusion
Migraines were pretty bad but were a lot easier than my caffeine stoppage migraines.
weight gain
depression
Things that helped me were:
Drink lots of water
Drink fruit juice
Drink coffee/tea/some caffeinated beverage. (I go for the bulletproof coffee recipe link in my sig.)
And the magnesium powder and lemon balm leaf pills really helped me for my anxiety (links also in signature)
And for the weight gain, you can always lose weight, you can't regrow your jaw.
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One big suggestion. not many people take it, but it made my early symptoms pretty bearable...Take Ice cold showers/Ice baths. Also throw in a fasting day every once in awhile. Show yourself what it really feels like to be uncomfortable and you will be able to handle a lot more than you can right now. You wanna know what gets rid of cravings? Shivering to the bone and all you can think about is "get me the fuck out of this place!!" I mean screaming cold. Your brain wont give a flying fuck about dip at that moment.
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One big suggestion. not many people take it, but it made my early symptoms pretty bearable...Take Ice cold showers/Ice baths. Also throw in a fasting day every once in awhile. Show yourself what it really feels like to be uncomfortable and you will be able to handle a lot more than you can right now. You wanna know what gets rid of cravings? Shivering to the bone and all you can think about is "get me the fuck out of this place!!" I mean screaming cold. Your brain wont give a flying fuck about dip at that moment.
Thanks for this suggestion. I actually watched that Ted talk when I was studying for the LSAT and tried it for 30 days. It actually did a lot for me. Might have to do it again while I'm in the early stages of the quit.
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To anyone who sees this can you please list any physical symptoms you had with your quit. I am either imagining things or itÂ’s:
Diarrhea slight
Horrible crippling migraines
Slow thought/confusion
Brain foggy
Anxiety
Definitely anxiety
foggyness/slow thought/confusion
Migraines were pretty bad but were a lot easier than my caffeine stoppage migraines.
weight gain
depression
Things that helped me were:
Drink lots of water
Drink fruit juice
Drink coffee/tea/some caffeinated beverage. (I go for the bulletproof coffee recipe link in my sig.)
And the magnesium powder and lemon balm leaf pills really helped me for my anxiety (links also in signature)
And for the weight gain, you can always lose weight, you can't regrow your jaw.
https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wh ... t-dipping/ (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
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This fake dip sucks. Ordered some Hooch. Ordered 40 jawbreaker red hots. DonÂ’t wanna go through this hell again or I might relapse. So thatÂ’s helping keep me quit. I mean my skin has been hot and have had real actual physical symptoms from this. I was expecting the mental but not the physical at all. I did not struggle like this on my honeymoon when I didnÂ’t dip bc I was sea sick....
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Just downloaded the dipquit app. Definitely will Help in my quit more than anything maybe yet. Reccomend it
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To anyone who sees this can you please list any physical symptoms you had with your quit. I am either imagining things or itÂ’s:
Diarrhea slight
Horrible crippling migraines
Slow thought/confusion
Brain foggy
Anxiety
Definitely anxiety
foggyness/slow thought/confusion
Migraines were pretty bad but were a lot easier than my caffeine stoppage migraines.
weight gain
depression
Things that helped me were:
Drink lots of water
Drink fruit juice
Drink coffee/tea/some caffeinated beverage. (I go for the bulletproof coffee recipe link in my sig.)
And the magnesium powder and lemon balm leaf pills really helped me for my anxiety (links also in signature)
And for the weight gain, you can always lose weight, you can't regrow your jaw.
Gromo. Wish I could pull off this coffee recipe man. IÂ’m such a dipshit. Might see if my wife can pull it off... sounds amazing
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Just kind of journaling my journey again.
Went to the gym tonight. Walked about two miles. Kept my mind off dipping for the most part, still in a haze/fog.
Sat in the sauna. Wanted to sit in there 20-30minutes. Felt like I was. looked at my watch and it had only been 10 minutes. Couldn't take anymore Will head back tomorrow.
Hopefully the chills and hot skin shit leaves me alone tomorrow. This quitting has almost felt like a flu.
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Just kind of journaling my journey again.
Went to the gym tonight. Walked about two miles. Kept my mind off dipping for the most part, still in a haze/fog.
Sat in the sauna. Wanted to sit in there 20-30minutes. Felt like I was. looked at my watch and it had only been 10 minutes. Couldn't take anymore Will head back tomorrow.
Hopefully the chills and hot skin shit leaves me alone tomorrow. This quitting has almost felt like a flu.
Yes, I cannot even explain my first few months. My first week was easy. Then it got tough. Would sweat and get chills a lot. Take something for sleeping to help you out. I wish I would have known how imporant sleep was the first few days.
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Just kind of journaling my journey again.
Went to the gym tonight. Walked about two miles. Kept my mind off dipping for the most part, still in a haze/fog.
Sat in the sauna. Wanted to sit in there 20-30minutes. Felt like I was. looked at my watch and it had only been 10 minutes. Couldn't take anymore Will head back tomorrow.
Hopefully the chills and hot skin shit leaves me alone tomorrow. This quitting has almost felt like a flu.
Yes, I cannot even explain my first few months. My first week was easy. Then it got tough. Would sweat and get chills a lot. Take something for sleeping to help you out. I wish I would have known how imporant sleep was the first few days.
So glad to know this is normal. Thank you for checking in Bubba.... fuck my anxiety over this sucks. Feels like worse than alcohol DTÂ’z
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My red hot jawbreakers get here this week early on. Got 40 off eBay. Looking forward to that. Woke up early as shit today and thinking about dip and how I will do Sunday after church without any.
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still have the chills. IÂ’ll be honest the whole things putting me in a bad mood. I donÂ’t need any of. This shit. I donÂ’t feel any better physically without dip. Not one bit. Arguably worse. IÂ’m in. A horrible mood. Need to stay away from this shit for a while. Not even church helped it just made it worse
The whole “I’m going trail running so I can stay quit today” is grating me that I hear. Feels so fraud and that’s not my life. I’ve got two fucking kids in diapers. If I went on 7 mile bike rides my wife would laugh me out of the House with some papers in hand. All this is half the reason I’ve dipped so long to begin with. Just so pissed today
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This is not to say IÂ’m going back. IÂ’m just so annoyed. I promised I wouldnÂ’t dip today and I wouldnÂ’t. DonÂ’t know if all this shit is for me. IÂ’m a real addict and a bunch of working out doesnÂ’t help that IÂ’m still an addict nor does it fit into my life when a bunch of clients start grating my nerves and fucking with me on weekend hours over stuff. Again all reasons I dip to begin with. ItÂ’s so clear to me
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Son screaming nonstop for hours bc heÂ’s teething
Huge fight with wife complete
Basically sitting there like I do on most Sundays in church, so clear why I am upset with the things I am....
Still not gonna buy a tin; today anyways; wonÂ’t solve anything. I donÂ’t think. But itÂ’s like fuck I never stood a chance at being a non addict
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This is not to say IÂ’m going back. IÂ’m just so annoyed. I promised I wouldnÂ’t dip today and I wouldnÂ’t. DonÂ’t know if all this shit is for me. IÂ’m a real addict and a bunch of working out doesnÂ’t help that IÂ’m still an addict nor does it fit into my life when a bunch of clients start grating my nerves and fucking with me on weekend hours over stuff. Again all reasons I dip to begin with. ItÂ’s so clear to me
You can't control your kids, your wife, or your clients. You can only control yourself, your own actions, and your own mindset. You are facing adversity right now... are you going to give in like a coward, or push through the pain? The choice is yours... don't blame the situation on family or work or physiology. YOU are in control, and if it doesn't feel like it right now then WAKE THE FUCK UP and TAKE CONTROL.
You say you "don't know if all this shit is for me. I'm a real addict and a bunch of working out doesn't help that." You are right about being an addict: Psychologists say there is no cure for substance addiction. But the rest of your statement is bullshit. Quitting doesn't fit into your life? Well take control and make it fit. Working out doesn't resolve your cravings? News flash, nothing will, but you can focus your energy on something new to better yourself instead of destroy yourself when the cravings arise. Getting fucked with on weekend hours? That would happen whether you dip or not, so why tie that stress to your quit? You quit, it's done, stop flirting with caving and commit.
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Son screaming nonstop for hours bc heÂ’s teething
Huge fight with wife complete
Basically sitting there like I do on most Sundays in church, so clear why I am upset with the things I am....
Still not gonna buy a tin; today anyways; wonÂ’t solve anything. I donÂ’t think. But itÂ’s like fuck I never stood a chance at being a non addict
WhatÂ’s your problem? I think I know. You see it in the mirror every morning: temptation and doubt stand hip to hip inside your head. You know itÂ’s not supposed to be like this. But you doubt your own quit and live without commitment.
ArenÂ’t you sick of being tempted by an alternative lifestyle, but bound by chains of your own choosing? Of the gnawing doubt that the path of least resistance is the right way for you? As long as you have a safety net, you act without commitment. YouÂ’ll return to whatÂ’s comfortable when you hit a little resistance. You need the warriorÂ’s desperateness.
Burn the bridge so thereÂ’s no way out. Nuke the foundation so you canÂ’t be complacent. Back yourself up against a wall. Have an opinion one way or another. Get off the fence and rip it up. Cut yourself off so there is no going back. Once you are committed the truth will come out. You ask about security, comfort, and stress? What you need is uncertainty. What you need is confusion, chaos, ambiguity; something that forces you to reinvent yourself, a whip to drive you harder. You need to wonder, "How the fuck am I going to stay quit today?" then press forward with it, just to prove that you can.
Life is a meritocracy, with death as the final auditor. Inconsistency, incompetence, and lies are cut short by that final word. Death will change you if you canÂ’t change yourself.
So are you strong or weak? Driven or controlled? Impactful or inconsequential? The choice is yours. No one has predestined you for any one type of life, you have only to choose, peruse, and create your own new reality.
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This is not to say IÂ’m going back. IÂ’m just so annoyed. I promised I wouldnÂ’t dip today and I wouldnÂ’t. DonÂ’t know if all this shit is for me. IÂ’m a real addict and a bunch of working out doesnÂ’t help that IÂ’m still an addict nor does it fit into my life when a bunch of clients start grating my nerves and fucking with me on weekend hours over stuff. Again all reasons I dip to begin with. ItÂ’s so clear to me
You can't control your kids, your wife, or your clients. You can only control yourself, your own actions, and your own mindset. You are facing adversity right now... are you going to give in like a coward, or push through the pain? The choice is yours... don't blame the situation on family or work or physiology. YOU are in control, and if it doesn't feel like it right now then WAKE THE FUCK UP and TAKE CONTROL.
You say you "don't know if all this shit is for me. I'm a real addict and a bunch of working out doesn't help that." You are right about being an addict: Psychologists say there is no cure for substance addiction. But the rest of your statement is bullshit. Quitting doesn't fit into your life? Well take control and make it fit. Working out doesn't resolve your cravings? News flash, nothing will, but you can focus your energy on something new to better yourself instead of destroy yourself when the cravings arise. Getting fucked with on weekend hours? That would happen whether you dip or not, so why tie that stress to your quit? You quit, it's done, stop flirting with caving and commit.
^^great post and advice.
Dude did you know that nicotine is a neurotoxin? Did you know that it is one of the most powerful herbicides on earth? Did you know that nicotine itself is lethal? Look it up. Know your opponent. It is as addictive as heroin. A tin has the same amount of nicotine as 3 packs of cigs. 3 packs.
This is not the new you. Better days are ahead. Just get through today.
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This is not to say IÂ’m going back. IÂ’m just so annoyed. I promised I wouldnÂ’t dip today and I wouldnÂ’t. DonÂ’t know if all this shit is for me. IÂ’m a real addict and a bunch of working out doesnÂ’t help that IÂ’m still an addict nor does it fit into my life when a bunch of clients start grating my nerves and fucking with me on weekend hours over stuff. Again all reasons I dip to begin with. ItÂ’s so clear to me
You can't control your kids, your wife, or your clients. You can only control yourself, your own actions, and your own mindset. You are facing adversity right now... are you going to give in like a coward, or push through the pain? The choice is yours... don't blame the situation on family or work or physiology. YOU are in control, and if it doesn't feel like it right now then WAKE THE FUCK UP and TAKE CONTROL.
You say you "don't know if all this shit is for me. I'm a real addict and a bunch of working out doesn't help that." You are right about being an addict: Psychologists say there is no cure for substance addiction. But the rest of your statement is bullshit. Quitting doesn't fit into your life? Well take control and make it fit. Working out doesn't resolve your cravings? News flash, nothing will, but you can focus your energy on something new to better yourself instead of destroy yourself when the cravings arise. Getting fucked with on weekend hours? That would happen whether you dip or not, so why tie that stress to your quit? You quit, it's done, stop flirting with caving and commit.
^^great post and advice.
Dude did you know that nicotine is a neurotoxin? Did you know that it is one of the most powerful herbicides on earth? Did you know that nicotine itself is lethal? Look it up. Know your opponent. It is as addictive as heroin. A tin has the same amount of nicotine as 3 packs of cigs. 3 packs.
This is not the new you. Better days are ahead. Just get through today.
Clint, buddy, where are you? Missing you on roll today.
Getting your name on roll is the most important part of your day. Quit as a team.
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This is not to say IÂ’m going back. IÂ’m just so annoyed. I promised I wouldnÂ’t dip today and I wouldnÂ’t. DonÂ’t know if all this shit is for me. IÂ’m a real addict and a bunch of working out doesnÂ’t help that IÂ’m still an addict nor does it fit into my life when a bunch of clients start grating my nerves and fucking with me on weekend hours over stuff. Again all reasons I dip to begin with. ItÂ’s so clear to me
You can't control your kids, your wife, or your clients. You can only control yourself, your own actions, and your own mindset. You are facing adversity right now... are you going to give in like a coward, or push through the pain? The choice is yours... don't blame the situation on family or work or physiology. YOU are in control, and if it doesn't feel like it right now then WAKE THE FUCK UP and TAKE CONTROL.
You say you "don't know if all this shit is for me. I'm a real addict and a bunch of working out doesn't help that." You are right about being an addict: Psychologists say there is no cure for substance addiction. But the rest of your statement is bullshit. Quitting doesn't fit into your life? Well take control and make it fit. Working out doesn't resolve your cravings? News flash, nothing will, but you can focus your energy on something new to better yourself instead of destroy yourself when the cravings arise. Getting fucked with on weekend hours? That would happen whether you dip or not, so why tie that stress to your quit? You quit, it's done, stop flirting with caving and commit.
^^great post and advice.
Dude did you know that nicotine is a neurotoxin? Did you know that it is one of the most powerful herbicides on earth? Did you know that nicotine itself is lethal? Look it up. Know your opponent. It is as addictive as heroin. A tin has the same amount of nicotine as 3 packs of cigs. 3 packs.
This is not the new you. Better days are ahead. Just get through today.
Clint, buddy, where are you? Missing you on roll today.
Getting your name on roll is the most important part of your day. Quit as a team.
Glad to see your post last night bro.
This is not the new normal. It gets better. Reach out herewhen things get tough. IÂ’m sending you a PM w my digits.
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Well my string of fuck ups continue
I overslept somehow and MISSED my dentist appointment. Woke up tasting blood when I bush mt teeth. My gums still hurt on the left side. I am real depressed about this. I am luckily going back at Thursday at 12:45, but still this bums me out. I needed to get in there today to ease my mind that something super sinister isnÂ’t going on. This really screwed up my entire day. Not sure how I didnÂ’t hear my alarm. I was in a deep sleep
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Well my string of fuck ups continue
I overslept somehow and MISSED my dentist appointment. Woke up tasting blood when I bush mt teeth. My gums still hurt on the left side. I am real depressed about this. I am luckily going back at Thursday at 12:45, but still this bums me out. I needed to get in there today to ease my mind that something super sinister isnÂ’t going on. This really screwed up my entire day. Not sure how I didnÂ’t hear my alarm. I was in a deep sleep
Glad you are going in, bro. Please let us know how things turn out.
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For sure want to make sure this one gets captured in your archive of stoppages, Clint.
What Happened - I went off the grid and fiended yesterday and chewed almost an entire tin. I had bought the tin earlier in the week and never should have had it. I thought that if I didnÂ’t post roll, and with my dentist opponent today; that I wouldnÂ’t be letting anyone down and I could have one last day of dipping and threw away several weeks of progress in the lie to myself.
Why? - I have the worse addictive personality of anyone IÂ’ve ever known. as I said above today is my meeting with the dentist which IÂ’m scared shitless of. My brothers who are quitting right now I have developed strong relationships with several and I let them down So I went off the grid because after the first one I was just upset.
What are you gonna do differently? I still know I canÂ’t dip any more. I know this is my last fuckingshot and that my present wonÂ’t be my destiny. I donÂ’t want to ever slip or let anyone down again so if I walk out of the dentist today which I had nightmares about all night; sleeping 2-3 hours, and he doesnÂ’t say what I think he will and I get a clean bill, I will die before I ever have real dip again. I wonÂ’t miss roll ever again. I wonÂ’t let down the people who care about me who I have developed care for.
You're fucking kidding me, right?
This was a planned cave from the start.
I.... happened....to have a tin I somehow purchased earlier in the week...
I... Happened to not post roll..
I sat there like a total fucking dufus, chewing the whole can ALL FUCKING DAY!!!
Not once did you think of your brothers that you were shitting all over?
Disgraceful.
Is this a joke? The worst addictive personality ever? Off the grid? I texted you at 9:32 yesterday morning. I texted you at 8:53 the night before. I’ve texted with you almost every day since you said you quit almost 2 weeks ago. Addictive personality...bull fucking shit...we’re addicts. Period. Full stop. Everyone is scared of the dentist after years of tripling our risk for oral cancers. Bet you feel better now after stuffing your face with more poison for another day. This is straight up horse shit and it pissed me right the hell off at the start of my day. Make your promise, keep it, succeed. Or, fail. They’re both choices, you made yours be to fail. Im free today and it feels fucking awesome. I’m not free because I’m special or because I’m less addicted. I’m free today because I’ve chosen to take my freedom each day for the last 680 days. Cut the bullshit “I’ll never this” and “I’ll always that” choose today, win today, FUCK!
Clint, Here's some truth. You do not have the most addictive personality here. Stop making excuses.
I reached out to you constantly. Gave you my phone number. Begged you to reach out to me. Responded on your intro. But, instead you caved alone. You want to know why you caved alone? Because you, sir, do not want to quit. You want to think you want to quit, but you don't. You want to try to stop and then cave. You say you are terrified of cancer. Well, someone that is terrified of your gums bleeding and having cancer doesn't cave 2 times in a few weeks, particularly the day before you go to the dentist. That is some pretty fucked up caving right there.
Here's a guy that had cancer, my friend Traumagnet, the author of the intro that I highly suggested that you read... here's one of his last posts:
Well it appears that it has been awhile since I have put in an update. I had double pneumonia that landed me in the hospital for a week...then home health for a week giving me very strong antibiotics. After a week of that the nausea and pain were enough I woke up on a Monday morning and fired everyone. I called the VA and asked to be put on hospice. Hospice has been working with me to get me under control as far as pain and nausea go. I have been puking and dry heaving for days so finally last night they hooked me up to a morphine drip and a Tordol drip subQ. they have also discovered that I have chemo induced thrush from my mouth to my stomach so another obstacle to overcome.
I also carry a BRAF mutation with in the cancer war is like trying fight fires with gasoline. So I am on the hospice pony and just trying to ride whatever time I have left in relative comfort. So just trying to take it easy.
Once again just wanted to say thank you to everyone that has been on this ride with me, I also wanted to say if you text or email and I dont respond right away please dont take it personal there are days that just making it to tomorrow is the best I can do.
thanks
Trauma
Read that carefully dude. You are playing with fire. I guess you are ok with it... but I'm not. See, I hit 2,000 days last Friday. Last Thursday, my father-in-law was rushed to the hospital throwing up blood. He has stage 4 espophagael cancer, which was discovered later that day much to everyone's surprise. He used to be a smoker. Guess it caught up to him. Your head is in the sand dude. My bet is that you will go to the dentist today, get a good report, and buy just one more can. Good luck with that. My father in law won't be able to swallow much longer, and he will probably aspirate to death in the next couple of months. Todd's 19 year old son called me last night to talk about how sad he is after fathers day. I guess these thoughts don't bother you. Enjoy your "last tin" bro. Weak shit.
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Ok.. thanks again for the support!
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'bang head'
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Ok.. thanks again for the support!
Do you want support? If so, what do you want support for? For trying? We don't try here. We focking make up our minds to quit, and enjoy the freedom from our addiction, knowing that "just one" will lead us back into the cage.
If that's what you want to do, then do it. Don't focking give us excuses for how hard it is. We know how focking hard it is. We've been through it. You're either free from nicotine, or you are a slave.
Which are you? IDGAF until you do.
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Day 5.
I won against some things that normally would have sent me to failure today.
Horrible stressful workday. I got angry inside but didnÂ’t cave or ask a co worker for chew
My wife and I had a disagreement. No cave there.
Talked to a friend here about some things that make me depressed that make me wanna cave. And I didnÂ’t cave.
If I can get through this Los Angeles dodgers game tonight IÂ’ll be alright! And IÂ’ve given my word. Hoping my red fireballs jawbreakers come today as IÂ’ve gone through 40 of 50 (5 at work today and hooch) and the oral fixation helped.
I am also panicky about going to the gym. Having the time. Need to go to the sauna and walk some I feel like
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Any guys ever puke early on in their quit? I either have a bug or I have fast heart today and vomiting our kf rhe absolute blue. Rough ass day
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Usually when I my heart races like it is today IÂ’m coming doe. With a virus. Had to pull over he side of the road and throw up. Heart rate was 128. This is not anxiety type stuff, I know the difference
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Usually when I my heart races like it is today IÂ’m coming doe. With a virus. Had to pull over he side of the road and throw up. Heart rate was 128. This is not anxiety type stuff, I know the difference
Hope your alright, will text you in a few.