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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: DjPorkchop on February 08, 2014, 10:13:00 PM
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Hello all.
I am new here as of today. I have pretty much the same story as most of them that I have read so far.
I used to chew when I was in high school a can a day at least. The day I was out of high school, I simply never chewed (dipped) again. The other side of that story is, I smoked too. I smoked until I was 31 years old and was a 3 and half pack per day smoker. I quit smoking using the patch and it was kind of easy to do. I knew it was my time.
About 6 months later I was at a little league baseball game coaching and my assistant coach offered me a chew of this new flavor he bought. So I tried one. Before the end of the game I was at the store buying a tin. 10 years later I was sitting here on the net and found this site tonight.
I have been wanting to quit for a long time and believe it or not, my doctor urged me not to try at this time. I am a big boy at 335lb down from 360. He is worried me quitting chewing will make me gain the weight back and then some.
Long story short, tonight is the night. I am not going to use nic for the rest of tonight. I don't care about tomorrow, I am just itching to get through tonight.
Last time I tried to quit, I ended up laying in bed crying like a baby, TERRIBLE stomach aches, shakes so bad I couldn't hardly walk. It was like I was trying to give up heroine or something. MAN was I sick. I don't look forward to that again but will do what it takes.
Take care everyone!
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Dj,
I'm on day 2. To be honest, it's no where near as bad as I thought. Don't get me wrong, I'm not enjoying any part of this....but my fear of quitting was much worse than actually quitting. Remember, we quit one day at a time. Just make it hour by hour through tonight and tomorrow.
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Hello all.
I am new here as of today. I have pretty much the same story as most of them that I have read so far.
I used to chew when I was in high school a can a day at least. The day I was out of high school, I simply never chewed (dipped) again. The other side of that story is, I smoked too. I smoked until I was 31 years old and was a 3 and half pack per day smoker. I quit smoking using the patch and it was kind of easy to do. I knew it was my time.
About 6 months later I was at a little league baseball game coaching and my assistant coach offered me a chew of this new flavor he bought. So I tried one. Before the end of the game I was at the store buying a tin. 10 years later I was sitting here on the net and found this site tonight.
I have been wanting to quit for a long time and believe it or not, my doctor urged me not to try at this time. I am a big boy at 335lb down from 360. He is worried me quitting chewing will make me gain the weight back and then some.
Long story short, tonight is the night. I am not going to use nic for the rest of tonight. I don't care about tomorrow, I am just itching to get through tonight.
Last time I tried to quit, I ended up laying in bed crying like a baby, TERRIBLE stomach aches, shakes so bad I couldn't hardly walk. It was like I was trying to give up heroine or something. MAN was I sick. I don't look forward to that again but will do what it takes.
Take care everyone!
DJ
I am NOT a doctor but I question anyone who questions your desire to quit. Yes it really sucks at first, but in time you will NOT regret your decision to quit. I am finally free of the slavery and quitting IS THE BEST THING I have ever done. I will stand by you. Drink lots of water, don't eat shitty food , exercise, and you won't gain weight. I have been quit for 78 days and have lost 12 lbs. I'm a big guy too and quitting dip goes way beyond just quitting dip. It changes your life being unshackled. Learn how and why to post roll in the welcome center link up top. If a dumbass like me can do this you can too! I promise if you STICK IT OUT you will not regret this. PM me if you need anything. ;Ironman:
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Great decision! I'm 39 days in my quit I was worried about weight gain also. I have actually lost a couple pounds. I drink tons of water try to workout daily. The workouts have really helped me with stress/rage.
Make sure you read as much as you can on here. It helps me through the tough times. Go to the "Welcome Center" at the top of this page post roll with your quit group. It sounds crazy at first, but trust me it will start making sense real soon.
PM me if you need anything.
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Hello all.
I am new here as of today. I have pretty much the same story as most of them that I have read so far.
I used to chew when I was in high school a can a day at least. The day I was out of high school, I simply never chewed (dipped) again. The other side of that story is, I smoked too. I smoked until I was 31 years old and was a 3 and half pack per day smoker. I quit smoking using the patch and it was kind of easy to do. I knew it was my time.
About 6 months later I was at a little league baseball game coaching and my assistant coach offered me a chew of this new flavor he bought. So I tried one. Before the end of the game I was at the store buying a tin. 10 years later I was sitting here on the net and found this site tonight.
I have been wanting to quit for a long time and believe it or not, my doctor urged me not to try at this time. I am a big boy at 335lb down from 360. He is worried me quitting chewing will make me gain the weight back and then some.
Long story short, tonight is the night. I am not going to use nic for the rest of tonight. I don't care about tomorrow, I am just itching to get through tonight.
Last time I tried to quit, I ended up laying in bed crying like a baby, TERRIBLE stomach aches, shakes so bad I couldn't hardly walk. It was like I was trying to give up heroine or something. MAN was I sick. I don't look forward to that again but will do what it takes.
Take care everyone!
DJ
I am NOT a doctor but I question anyone who questions your desire to quit. Yes it really sucks at first, but in time you will NOT regret your decision to quit. I am finally free of the slavery and quitting IS THE BEST THING I have ever done. I will stand by you. Drink lots of water, don't eat shitty food , exercise, and you won't gain weight. I have been quit for 78 days and have lost 12 lbs. I'm a big guy too and quitting dip goes way beyond just quitting dip. It changes your life being unshackled. Learn how and why to post roll in the welcome center link up top. If a dumbass like me can do this you can too! I promise if you STICK IT OUT you will not regret this. PM me if you need anything. ;Ironman:
Porkchop, with a name like that I doubt you gonna worry about a few lbs. Bro you got this, your diet is what you put in. I'd rather have the food going in than shit in my lip. Just saying. I agree with rdad on this. I'm not a Dr either and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express but I think you got some shitty advice. Make nic your bitch and the pounds will come off with a new healthier you. I haven't seen any weight change an I am 3 months in from a 25 yr habit.
I quit with you big guy. Git r dun
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I am new here as of today. I have pretty much the same story as most of them that I have read so far.
We all have the same story of why we are here. We were addicted to and if we let our guards down for one minute will lose the battle to this tough nic bitch that tells us lies. But here we get to share the stories of beating this addiction and learning from one another. I've learned to embrace the scary road of rewiring my brain to do stuff without this lying poison. Jump in and Read as much as you can. You won't be mad for feeling free. ODAAT
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DJ - Welcome to Project Mayhem, and great to see you post roll. While no one in the May quit group can boast having walked a mile in a HOFer's shoes, we damn sure aspire to be there, and plan to get there ODAAT. That being said, you've got a lot of guys alongside you that are mere hours or days into their quit, and are here to help when things get rocky. As you're already aware, it's going to suck, and it will be the best damn reminder about why you're quitting in the first place -- anything that makes you feel so shitty and physically / mentally incapacitated when you remove it from your system is nothing that you want in your life. We're all in this together, whether one day or one thousand days.
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Porkchop, if you are down 25lbs already keep doing what got you there. The oral fixation is why some quitters put on weight at first(I put on 25 lbs which I have since gotten rid of). You may have to be careful with your choices: use fake dip and bubble gum not seeds and candy; keep plenty of fruit and veggies around and munch on those instead of junk food.
Also, exercise is super helpful in a quit. Burn off stress and frustration with a good workout. Obviously exercise will help with weight loss too.
Get through this minute by minute if you have too. Read everything on KTC and live it. KTC works.
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Welcome. Listen to all these guys below, they know what their talking about. Now lets set a good foundation for this quit and get you going in the right direction.
I simply never chewed (dipped) again.
Obviously, this ^^ statement is false. You wouldn't be here right now if it wasn't. Smoking and chewing are both part of the same problem. You are addicted to one of the most addictive drugs known to man. One is to many and 1000 will never be enough. Except this and your quit will have a great foundation.
doctor urged me not to try at this time.
This ^^^ puzzles me. My question would be to the doctor. Why is now not a good time? B-lo was right on. If it's about the weight issues there is other types of alternatives that do not involve eating and calories. There is an abundance of fake alternatives. I used toothpicks, gum and smokey mountain (fake chew found at most wal-marts). One piece of candy is usually about 10 calories. I think a few pieces of candy when your having a weak moment will not be the end of life as you know it. This is also a great read for you and possibly your doctor. http://www.killthecan.org/additional-re ... ight-gain/ (http://www.killthecan.org/additional-resources/minimizing-weight-gain/)
I ended up laying in bed crying like a baby
Things can get bad, but you can get through them one moment at a time. Water, water and more water. Exercise and stay busy doing something. Sitting around was never good for me. I had the worst craves just sitting around and not staying busy. When you are sitting there began reading everything you can on this addiction. Truth is there is a lot facts out there that not even doctors know. A lot of that information is on this site. I actually pulled the link above off this site. You can do this, you just need to start believing it. There is literally thousands that have used this site to quit. Might as well add you name to the list. Need anything let me know.
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Porkchop, I also had a Dr and a shrink discourage me from quitting at the time I wanted. Their fear was that my mental health was to fragile to handle it. Damn it it was the loss of control that was depressing me. Quitting doesn't mean that you will automatically gain weight. My personal weight gain didn't happen till nearly one year after quitting. Finding ways to adjust to the loss in what has been part of our lives is part of the process of quitting and healthy choices are now part of our lives so look for other ways of getting your life on a better path. You can do whatever you put your mind to.
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I thank everyone for the replies thus far.
And nice catch on the never dipped again. I should have said until that day at the little league game.
And as far as the doctor goes, I did question that theory a bit but I know why he urged me not to quit at this time. I have been dam near bed ridden for 4 years now with a blown out back. My mental state is in the whole so bad I wanted to step out in front of a freight train ...... if I could have got up off the bed long enough to do it. Now I get spinal injections and am in physical therapy and staring to loose the weight required before a surgeon will reconstruct my spine. Simply enough, he don't want any weight to become and issue for me at this point in time. I have 35 more lbs to go before they will even consider doing anything for me.
I weighed out my options and decided to go for it last night without talking to my wife. Talk about a fight from hell! She STRONGLY urges me to listen to the doctor. I strongly urge my self to listen to y'all instead.
They can toss out all the excuses they want! Mental, weight, snow, to sunny, I really don't care. It's that time.
Thanks gain everyone for being here and all the replies.
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I thank everyone for the replies thus far.
And nice catch on the never dipped again. I should have said until that day at the little league game.
And as far as the doctor goes, I did question that theory a bit but I know why he urged me not to quit at this time. I have been dam near bed ridden for 4 years now with a blown out back. My mental state is in the whole so bad I wanted to step out in front of a freight train ...... if I could have got up off the bed long enough to do it. Now I get spinal injections and am in physical therapy and staring to loose the weight required before a surgeon will reconstruct my spine. Simply enough, he don't want any weight to become and issue for me at this point in time. I have 35 more lbs to go before they will even consider doing anything for me.
I weighed out my options and decided to go for it last night without talking to my wife. Talk about a fight from hell! She STRONGLY urges me to listen to the doctor. I strongly urge my self to listen to y'all instead.
They can toss out all the excuses they want! Mental, weight, snow, to sunny, I really don't care. It's that time.
Thanks gain everyone for being here and all the replies.
With more information provided I would actually go with your doctors advise. While I am here on this site and do not condone the use of smokeless tobacco, your potential debilitating back problem should be rectified first and foremost.
You will gain weight. That is not a question, that is a fact. The question is just how much. In your case especially, weight gain can be a huge problem. I have enjoyed getting out more and getting more exercise. Without it, I probably would be heavier. They say (and I don't have a source, but it is not too hard to believe) that nicotine alone in a heavy smoker/dipper can burn an additional 200-300 calories a day. Put on top the fact that as a former dipper I would rather have a dip in instead of food, we all know I was probably 10-15lbs lighter then I should have been.
Just to give you my experience at day 33. I started my quit day after a 3 months prep to get "better". Including getting some additional exercise and changing what I ate. I had lost 15lbs at that point. Day 20 of my quit, and I was up 20 lbs. I feel as if alot of it was water weight from a diet heavy in sodium. I was eating crap, and I know I have a sensitivity to sodium. I have since switched over to a diet of nothing processed. I can eat whatever it is I desire as long as it has not been processed. All the veges, fruits, meat. The only carb I take in is oatmeal (steel cut) for breakfast. It holds me over like a dip would until late lunch. That is unlike alot of other breakfast foods that would leave me chomping for a snack. Since switching I have lost 8 lbs in the 13 days. I feel amazing although still heavier, and I plan on continuing.
If you think you can do this, go for it. I applaud your commitment so far and hope to see you quit.
My only worry is your back. I would not do anything to sacrifice your back. Even if that meant switching to NRT (Nicotine replacement therapy) such as the gum/patch/lozenge of the herbal snuff with nicotine added, for a short period of time. I know this opinion might not be popular on this site as this is a cold turkey group, but being bed ridden or essentially paralyzed is not the answer either.
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I thank everyone for the replies thus far.
And nice catch on the never dipped again. I should have said until that day at the little league game.
And as far as the doctor goes, I did question that theory a bit but I know why he urged me not to quit at this time. I have been dam near bed ridden for 4 years now with a blown out back. My mental state is in the whole so bad I wanted to step out in front of a freight train ...... if I could have got up off the bed long enough to do it. Now I get spinal injections and am in physical therapy and staring to loose the weight required before a surgeon will reconstruct my spine. Simply enough, he don't want any weight to become and issue for me at this point in time. I have 35 more lbs to go before they will even consider doing anything for me.
I weighed out my options and decided to go for it last night without talking to my wife. Talk about a fight from hell! She STRONGLY urges me to listen to the doctor. I strongly urge my self to listen to y'all instead.
They can toss out all the excuses they want! Mental, weight, snow, to sunny, I really don't care. It's that time.
Thanks gain everyone for being here and all the replies.
With more information provided I would actually go with your doctors advise. While I am here on this site and do not condone the use of smokeless tobacco, your potential debilitating back problem should be rectified first and foremost.
You will gain weight. That is not a question, that is a fact. The question is just how much. In your case especially, weight gain can be a huge problem. I have enjoyed getting out more and getting more exercise. Without it, I probably would be heavier. They say (and I don't have a source, but it is not too hard to believe) that nicotine alone in a heavy smoker/dipper can burn an additional 200-300 calories a day. Put on top the fact that as a former dipper I would rather have a dip in instead of food, we all know I was probably 10-15lbs lighter then I should have been.
Just to give you my experience at day 33. I started my quit day after a 3 months prep to get "better". Including getting some additional exercise and changing what I ate. I had lost 15lbs at that point. Day 20 of my quit, and I was up 20 lbs. I feel as if alot of it was water weight from a diet heavy in sodium. I was eating crap, and I know I have a sensitivity to sodium. I have since switched over to a diet of nothing processed. I can eat whatever it is I desire as long as it has not been processed. All the veges, fruits, meat. The only carb I take in is oatmeal (steel cut) for breakfast. It holds me over like a dip would until late lunch. That is unlike alot of other breakfast foods that would leave me chomping for a snack. Since switching I have lost 8 lbs in the 13 days. I feel amazing although still heavier, and I plan on continuing.
If you think you can do this, go for it. I applaud your commitment so far and hope to see you quit.
My only worry is your back. I would not do anything to sacrifice your back. Even if that meant switching to NRT (Nicotine replacement therapy) such as the gum/patch/lozenge of the herbal snuff with nicotine added, for a short period of time. I know this opinion might not be popular on this site as this is a cold turkey group, but being bed ridden or essentially paralyzed is not the answer either.
I don't think i would ever say that continued use of the poison is a good idea, ever. I also am no doctor. Given all the facts it is clear you have quite a decision to make. My prayers for you my friend. You have a tuff hill to climb. Your hill is a lot farther and steeper than mine was. Could i have made that climb? I don't know.
Quitting is one of the most difficult things for most of us. Couple that with medical problems such as yours and your battle is beyond imaginable. My prayers. If you need anything let me know.
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I thank everyone for the replies thus far.
And nice catch on the never dipped again. I should have said until that day at the little league game.
And as far as the doctor goes, I did question that theory a bit but I know why he urged me not to quit at this time. I have been dam near bed ridden for 4 years now with a blown out back. My mental state is in the whole so bad I wanted to step out in front of a freight train ...... if I could have got up off the bed long enough to do it. Now I get spinal injections and am in physical therapy and staring to loose the weight required before a surgeon will reconstruct my spine. Simply enough, he don't want any weight to become and issue for me at this point in time. I have 35 more lbs to go before they will even consider doing anything for me.
I weighed out my options and decided to go for it last night without talking to my wife. Talk about a fight from hell! She STRONGLY urges me to listen to the doctor. I strongly urge my self to listen to y'all instead.
They can toss out all the excuses they want! Mental, weight, snow, to sunny, I really don't care. It's that time.
Thanks gain everyone for being here and all the replies.
With more information provided I would actually go with your doctors advise. While I am here on this site and do not condone the use of smokeless tobacco, your potential debilitating back problem should be rectified first and foremost.
You will gain weight. That is not a question, that is a fact. The question is just how much. In your case especially, weight gain can be a huge problem. I have enjoyed getting out more and getting more exercise. Without it, I probably would be heavier. They say (and I don't have a source, but it is not too hard to believe) that nicotine alone in a heavy smoker/dipper can burn an additional 200-300 calories a day. Put on top the fact that as a former dipper I would rather have a dip in instead of food, we all know I was probably 10-15lbs lighter then I should have been.
Just to give you my experience at day 33. I started my quit day after a 3 months prep to get "better". Including getting some additional exercise and changing what I ate. I had lost 15lbs at that point. Day 20 of my quit, and I was up 20 lbs. I feel as if alot of it was water weight from a diet heavy in sodium. I was eating crap, and I know I have a sensitivity to sodium. I have since switched over to a diet of nothing processed. I can eat whatever it is I desire as long as it has not been processed. All the veges, fruits, meat. The only carb I take in is oatmeal (steel cut) for breakfast. It holds me over like a dip would until late lunch. That is unlike alot of other breakfast foods that would leave me chomping for a snack. Since switching I have lost 8 lbs in the 13 days. I feel amazing although still heavier, and I plan on continuing.
If you think you can do this, go for it. I applaud your commitment so far and hope to see you quit.
My only worry is your back. I would not do anything to sacrifice your back. Even if that meant switching to NRT (Nicotine replacement therapy) such as the gum/patch/lozenge of the herbal snuff with nicotine added, for a short period of time. I know this opinion might not be popular on this site as this is a cold turkey group, but being bed ridden or essentially paralyzed is not the answer either.
I don't think i would ever say that continued use of the poison is a good idea, ever. I also am no doctor. Given all the facts it is clear you have quite a decision to make. My prayers for you my friend. You have a tuff hill to climb. Your hill is a lot farther and steeper than mine was. Could i have made that climb? I don't know.
Quitting is one of the most difficult things for most of us. Couple that with medical problems such as yours and your battle is beyond imaginable. My prayers. If you need anything let me know.
413 days ago I was severely diabetic. High blood pressure like you wouldn't believe. And cholesterol levels like my veins were full of whipping cream. And I chewed a can a day.
I have to be honest with you... Any doctor in 2014 that wouldn't encourage a human being to quit I am suspicious of. It is a no brainier.
Watch the diet. Throw out the poison. Get some contacts on here. 413 days ago I, like you, faced a battery of challenges. For me, quitting nicotine made all of the other battles possible. This was one of, if not the, best... Hardest... And most surprisingly life altering things I've ever done. And it will be for you too.
You will feel like a new man. You will gain confidence. You will regain freedom. You will become more healthy and start making better decisions in other parts of your life. The men and women I communicate with in this site are some of the best people I've ever encountered.
Or you can keep poisoning yourself and being a slave.
I do have a favor to ask... Please relay the following message to your doctor from worktowin in Kansas City next time you see him. "Fuck off ." Thanks.
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I thank everyone for the replies thus far.
And nice catch on the never dipped again. I should have said until that day at the little league game.
And as far as the doctor goes, I did question that theory a bit but I know why he urged me not to quit at this time. I have been dam near bed ridden for 4 years now with a blown out back. My mental state is in the whole so bad I wanted to step out in front of a freight train ...... if I could have got up off the bed long enough to do it. Now I get spinal injections and am in physical therapy and staring to loose the weight required before a surgeon will reconstruct my spine. Simply enough, he don't want any weight to become and issue for me at this point in time. I have 35 more lbs to go before they will even consider doing anything for me.
I weighed out my options and decided to go for it last night without talking to my wife. Talk about a fight from hell! She STRONGLY urges me to listen to the doctor. I strongly urge my self to listen to y'all instead.
They can toss out all the excuses they want! Mental, weight, snow, to sunny, I really don't care. It's that time.
Thanks gain everyone for being here and all the replies.
With more information provided I would actually go with your doctors advise. While I am here on this site and do not condone the use of smokeless tobacco, your potential debilitating back problem should be rectified first and foremost.
You will gain weight. That is not a question, that is a fact. The question is just how much. In your case especially, weight gain can be a huge problem. I have enjoyed getting out more and getting more exercise. Without it, I probably would be heavier. They say (and I don't have a source, but it is not too hard to believe) that nicotine alone in a heavy smoker/dipper can burn an additional 200-300 calories a day. Put on top the fact that as a former dipper I would rather have a dip in instead of food, we all know I was probably 10-15lbs lighter then I should have been.
Just to give you my experience at day 33. I started my quit day after a 3 months prep to get "better". Including getting some additional exercise and changing what I ate. I had lost 15lbs at that point. Day 20 of my quit, and I was up 20 lbs. I feel as if alot of it was water weight from a diet heavy in sodium. I was eating crap, and I know I have a sensitivity to sodium. I have since switched over to a diet of nothing processed. I can eat whatever it is I desire as long as it has not been processed. All the veges, fruits, meat. The only carb I take in is oatmeal (steel cut) for breakfast. It holds me over like a dip would until late lunch. That is unlike alot of other breakfast foods that would leave me chomping for a snack. Since switching I have lost 8 lbs in the 13 days. I feel amazing although still heavier, and I plan on continuing.
If you think you can do this, go for it. I applaud your commitment so far and hope to see you quit.
My only worry is your back. I would not do anything to sacrifice your back. Even if that meant switching to NRT (Nicotine replacement therapy) such as the gum/patch/lozenge of the herbal snuff with nicotine added, for a short period of time. I know this opinion might not be popular on this site as this is a cold turkey group, but being bed ridden or essentially paralyzed is not the answer either.
I don't think i would ever say that continued use of the poison is a good idea, ever. I also am no doctor. Given all the facts it is clear you have quite a decision to make. My prayers for you my friend. You have a tuff hill to climb. Your hill is a lot farther and steeper than mine was. Could i have made that climb? I don't know.
Quitting is one of the most difficult things for most of us. Couple that with medical problems such as yours and your battle is beyond imaginable. My prayers. If you need anything let me know.
413 days ago I was severely diabetic. High blood pressure like you wouldn't believe. And cholesterol levels like my veins were full of whipping cream. And I chewed a can a day.
I have to be honest with you... Any doctor in 2014 that wouldn't encourage a human being to quit I am suspicious of. It is a no brainier.
Watch the diet. Throw out the poison. Get some contacts on here. 413 days ago I, like you, faced a battery of challenges. For me, quitting nicotine made all of the other battles possible. This was one of, if not the, best... Hardest... And most surprisingly life altering things I've ever done. And it will be for you too.
You will feel like a new man. You will gain confidence. You will regain freedom. You will become more healthy and start making better decisions in other parts of your life. The men and women I communicate with in this site are some of the best people I've ever encountered.
Or you can keep poisoning yourself and being a slave.
I do have a favor to ask... Please relay the following message to your doctor from worktowin in Kansas City next time you see him. "Fuck off ." Thanks.
I am glad you choose to go after your freedom! It is tough but so is the alternative. I do not envy your position. But I think you are choosing right. Its easier to lose weight then to lose cancer! And quitting chew does NOT mean you WILL gain weight. Worktowin and myself are two examples of people who LOST weight while quitting! I am 70 lbs lighter then I was last April, and Mike lost so much weight, they put him in the paper. I commend your choice and I will support you in any way I can! Quit on and eat healthy! You will be a better man in the end!
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Hello all.
Today was a rough day. Long day traveling most of the day just to turn around and go back home. I feel like crap and stomach is aching beyond belief with some shaking as well.
Back home now. back is aching like mad so I swallowed some much needed medicine and am going to hit the sack early and sleep it off.
Take care all and catch you in the morn for roll!
1 more day!!!
Ray
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Hello all.
Today was a rough day. Long day traveling most of the day just to turn around and go back home. I feel like crap and stomach is aching beyond belief with some shaking as well.
Back home now. back is aching like mad so I swallowed some much needed medicine and am going to hit the sack early and sleep it off.
Take care all and catch you in the morn for roll!
1 more day!!!
Ray
Glad to see your post. Hang in there. Things get better fast it just don't feel like it. Quit with you today.
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Hello all.
Today was a rough day. Long day traveling most of the day just to turn around and go back home. I feel like crap and stomach is aching beyond belief with some shaking as well.
Back home now. back is aching like mad so I swallowed some much needed medicine and am going to hit the sack early and sleep it off.
Take care all and catch you in the morn for roll!
1 more day!!!
Ray
Nice work posting roll, DJPC -- nothing wrong with trying to get some extra sleep in the early days (and in general). Look forward to seeing you up there again tomorrow, and hopefully you can jump into chat room if you have time. Hang tough.
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Hello all.
Today was a rough day. Long day traveling most of the day just to turn around and go back home. I feel like crap and stomach is aching beyond belief with some shaking as well.
Back home now. back is aching like mad so I swallowed some much needed medicine and am going to hit the sack early and sleep it off.
Take care all and catch you in the morn for roll!
1 more day!!!
Ray
Nice work posting roll, DJPC -- nothing wrong with trying to get some extra sleep in the early days (and in general). Look forward to seeing you up there again tomorrow, and hopefully you can jump into chat room if you have time. Hang tough.
DJ
There are a shitload of brother and sister quitters that were moved by your story. Keep us updated. I will quit every fucking day with you!
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Hello all.
Today was a rough day. Long day traveling most of the day just to turn around and go back home. I feel like crap and stomach is aching beyond belief with some shaking as well.
Back home now. back is aching like mad so I swallowed some much needed medicine and am going to hit the sack early and sleep it off.
Take care all and catch you in the morn for roll!
1 more day!!!
Ray
Nice work posting roll, DJPC -- nothing wrong with trying to get some extra sleep in the early days (and in general). Look forward to seeing you up there again tomorrow, and hopefully you can jump into chat room if you have time. Hang tough.
DJ
There are a shitload of brother and sister quitters that were moved by your story. Keep us updated. I will quit every fucking day with you!
Nice job dj. One day at a time. If you need another contact let me know. You are following a plan, the only plan, that works. Post roll, then be a man of your word. Glad you are here.
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Hello all.
Today was a rough day. Long day traveling most of the day just to turn around and go back home. I feel like crap and stomach is aching beyond belief with some shaking as well.
Back home now. back is aching like mad so I swallowed some much needed medicine and am going to hit the sack early and sleep it off.
Take care all and catch you in the morn for roll!
1 more day!!!
Ray
Nice work posting roll, DJPC -- nothing wrong with trying to get some extra sleep in the early days (and in general). Look forward to seeing you up there again tomorrow, and hopefully you can jump into chat room if you have time. Hang tough.
DJ
There are a shitload of brother and sister quitters that were moved by your story. Keep us updated. I will quit every fucking day with you!
Nice job dj. One day at a time. If you need another contact let me know. You are following a plan, the only plan, that works. Post roll, then be a man of your word. Glad you are here.
Thanks! I appreciate you all being here.
Today was another rough one to say the least. Went back to the doctor and am swallowing 4 more pills today than I was 5 days ago. Brain pills and more back pills. Great combo. I'm trying like hell though. I dam near broke down and at the right moment, I saw one of those quit smoking commercials with the lady that talked real horse and has a hole in her throat and passed away at 53. Needless to say, I changed my mind. The pain and bullshit is worth it to get to spend many more years with my wife and kids. I am not sure if the sick I am feeling now is the mix of pills or the poison exiting me.
By the way, my doctor that I was seeing, left the practice. I got a new lady dr now and she said PLEASE stay quit!!!!! I finally agree with a doctor.
Take care all and I quit with every dam one of you farkers!!!!!!
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Thanks! I appreciate you all being here.
Today was another rough one to say the least. Went back to the doctor and am swallowing 4 more pills today than I was 5 days ago. Brain pills and more back pills. Great combo. I'm trying like hell though. I dam near broke down and at the right moment, I saw one of those quit smoking commercials with the lady that talked real horse and has a hole in her throat and passed away at 53. Needless to say, I changed my mind. The pain and bullshit is worth it to get to spend many more years with my wife and kids. I am not sure if the sick I am feeling now is the mix of pills or the poison exiting me.
By the way, my doctor that I was seeing, left the practice. I got a new lady dr now and she said PLEASE stay quit!!!!! I finally agree with a doctor.
Take care all and I quit with every dam one of you farkers!!!!!!
Damn DJ, if your quit doesn't inspire the weakest willed person out there to take the first plunge -- or plow ahead for another day -- then there's little hope for humanity. I'm not taking away from anyone else's initial shitty days of quit, but the fact that you've got the nic bitch kicking screaming to not leave your system, some no-joke physical discomfort (to put it mildly), and meds sprinkled on top...I mean, you're dealing with a magnified suck. And you're being a man about it. Here's to your magnified quit, brotha. Stay strong.
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Great job porkchop. Glad you got a doctor that knows what she's talking about. I still don't know all there is to know about you portchop but i know nicotine has no benifits. It has no healing agents mixed in with all the cancer causing chemicals. The poison takes until their is nothing left to take.
Quitting will do nothing but benefit you in many ways. Go back and read worktowins post, it's the truth. Anyone who believes it will help, like the idiot doctor has not done their research. I'll have 1 year of quit tommorrow my friend. It's so worth it. I had no idea i would feel like this 364 days ago.
You keep climbing that mountain. I've seen people lose wives, jobs and minds while quitting. Now I'm watching one dude with the screen name porkchop put wantabe quitters to shame. . Glad to be quit with you today.
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Hello all.
Today was a rough day. Long day traveling most of the day just to turn around and go back home. I feel like crap and stomach is aching beyond belief with some shaking as well.
Back home now. back is aching like mad so I swallowed some much needed medicine and am going to hit the sack early and sleep it off.
Take care all and catch you in the morn for roll!
1 more day!!!
Ray
Nice work posting roll, DJPC -- nothing wrong with trying to get some extra sleep in the early days (and in general). Look forward to seeing you up there again tomorrow, and hopefully you can jump into chat room if you have time. Hang tough.
DJ
There are a shitload of brother and sister quitters that were moved by your story. Keep us updated. I will quit every fucking day with you!
Nice job dj. One day at a time. If you need another contact let me know. You are following a plan, the only plan, that works. Post roll, then be a man of your word. Glad you are here.
Thanks! I appreciate you all being here.
Today was another rough one to say the least. Went back to the doctor and am swallowing 4 more pills today than I was 5 days ago. Brain pills and more back pills. Great combo. I'm trying like hell though. I dam near broke down and at the right moment, I saw one of those quit smoking commercials with the lady that talked real horse and has a hole in her throat and passed away at 53. Needless to say, I changed my mind. The pain and bullshit is worth it to get to spend many more years with my wife and kids. I am not sure if the sick I am feeling now is the mix of pills or the poison exiting me.
By the way, my doctor that I was seeing, left the practice. I got a new lady dr now and she said PLEASE stay quit!!!!! I finally agree with a doctor.
Take care all and I quit with every dam one of you farkers!!!!!!
You, my fellow Monster of Mayhem, are going to be a prime example of 'no matter what, I quit'. You've got plenty of challenges and you chose to throw a solid quit on top of it all. Proud to stand with you every damn day!
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Sure would like to see movement here. To quite.
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Sure would like to see movement here. To quite.
Poof!
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Sure would like to see movement here. To quite.
Poof!
Yeah, given all the circumstances, was really hoping his quit had legs. Still holding out hope. Radio silence on threads, roll, and PM not encouraging however.
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Hello everyone. My name is Ray and I am an addict!
I started dipping back in 88 in high school and dipped for 4 years until I got out of school and just never did it again. Easy as could be really. Never even put a single thought to it. Fast forward to 2001....
I was a 3 pack per day smoker and I quit smoking one day because it was my time. It was rough but I did it. 6 months in my quit from smoking I was coaching C leauge baseball with my brother inlaw. He offered me a dip one day and then it started. That day I was at the store buying a tin of Kodiak. BIG mistake. I have been hooked ever since.
I decided after chewing for a year or two I was going to give it up. Ok so do it!! I did.... for 6 hours. In that 6 hours I had cold sweats, shakes, pukes, shits, laying on the couch all but in convulsions. Man did that suck really fucking suck!!! I caved and have been chewing til this day.
So I joined this site last year and gave it a try. I posted roll and all for about a week and then ended up in the hospital. No access to this site or anything. As soon as I got out of the hospital my wife had me a tin of Dak and off to the races I went yet again.
Fast forward to a few days ago....... So I decided to come back to KTC and check things out. I have a VERY strong desire not to dip today. Every time I put a dip in my mouth I feel pleasure but guilt all at the same time. I so badly want to quit. Actually, I can quit. It is easy to do. Ive done it millions of times. My issue is, I can't stop starting again. How do I not start again?
I tried it last night and made it 3 whole hours without a dip. Woke up this morn and decided to go for it and made it one whole hour. Man I seriously need help!!!! Why am I so weak?
Thanks for all the awesome people being here. You all are truly appreciated.
Ray
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I spit out the dip and flushed my tin worth. Valium on board. Day 1 begins!!!
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I spit out the dip and flushed my tin worth. Valium on board. Day 1 begins!!!
Post roll and get it done Porkchop. It's within your control to win this battle today. Do it.
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Roll Posted! Feels great! Ill be hitting the boards all night most likely looking for inspiration and support. I know this is gonna be rough. I made it 3 hours last night. I plan on it lasting for today then renew tomorrows promise.
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Roll Posted! Feels great! Ill be hitting the boards all night most likely looking for inspiration and support. I know this is gonna be rough. I made it 3 hours last night. I plan on it lasting for today then renew tomorrows promise.
Nice job posting roll Porkchop. Next step: you don't "plan" on staying quit the rest of the day. You ARE quit the rest of the day. If you give yourself an out, you'll take it. Know how I know? Because I'm an addict too, and I would take it if I had an out. I don't though. I posted my promise, end of story.
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Ahh good point (on the plan) Its wisdom like that that helps. Thanks!!
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Roll Posted! Feels great! Ill be hitting the boards all night most likely looking for inspiration and support. I know this is gonna be rough. I made it 3 hours last night. I plan on it lasting for today then renew tomorrows promise.
Nice job posting roll Porkchop. Next step: you don't "plan" on staying quit the rest of the day. You ARE quit the rest of the day. If you give yourself an out, you'll take it. Know how I know? Because I'm an addict too, and I would take it if I had an out. I don't though. I posted my promise, end of story.
Good start Porkchop. Now to stay quit minute by minute/ hour by hour until it gets better (it will get better) a review of tools.
1. Post your promise on roll. (Look at that promise as a reminder).
2. Get digits from December quitters, they are a strong support group
3. Live chat (good quitters that can help you get through the suck)
4. The emergency thread on the quit group page (good people monitor this)
5. Read, read , read: other Intros, Hall of Fame Speeches, Legend entries, any quit group from page one onwards (start with December 15).
Use these tools. I quit with you today.
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Hi NoMore
Appreciate the tips. Since i Posted roll a while ago I been refreshing the boards looking for new posts and then reading older posts as well. I do need to trade some didgits for sure. I know it is going to get rough on me. I have a valium on board as we speak so so far its not hitting me to hard. I do feel a bit fuzzy so to speak.
I quit with you also today brother!
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Hi NoMore
Appreciate the tips. Since i Posted roll a while ago I been refreshing the boards looking for new posts and then reading older posts as well. I do need to trade some didgits for sure. I know it is going to get rough on me. I have a valium on board as we speak so so far its not hitting me to hard. I do feel a bit fuzzy so to speak.
I quit with you also today brother!
Read intros, words of wisdom, and hall of fame speeches. I would start with the words of wisdom. There are some incredibly motivating posts in there to help you stay up for this battle.
Don't hesitate to reach out, there are a bunch of people that will jump at the chance to help.
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DJ. You posted roll and I posted roll today. That means we made a vow to ourselves and the brotherhood that we will not use nicotine today.
It is awesome that we made that promise and now we need to do what ever it takes to keep nicotine out of our mouths for the day. Use mints, gum, some have said cotton balls, I use raisins or Jake's mint chew.
One big help is to drink lots of water. Once you finish a sip, take another. Water will help quench the cravings and will also help flush the nic out of your system.
The fuzziness is the Fog. It is your brain getting use to functioning without the nic. It will suck but I promise you it will get better. Read words of wisdom and keep that promise.
I quit today with you and we are strong and will make it to roll tomorrow.
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Well my wife came home from work and I discussed quitting with her. She is on board with me. I also been reading a bunch here on site the last couple hours. Trying to keep my mind off the nic. So far so good. Valium is on board and helping out as well. I talked to doc today and he said my 5 mg was good to go for me.
Thanks for all the replies fellas. I really appreciate it!
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Well my wife came home from work and I discussed quitting with her. She is on board with me. I also been reading a bunch here on site the last couple hours. Trying to keep my mind off the nic. So far so good. Valium is on board and helping out as well. I talked to doc today and he said my 5 mg was good to go for me.
Thanks for all the replies fellas. I really appreciate it!
Dj how old are you? Come on brother, we're all addicts here and always will be. No one can quit for you, you have to look in the mirror and say I wanna live a better and longer life and I refuse to put that shit in my mouth! Whatever you have to do to keep nicotine out of your mouth do it. When craving hits,go over to dresser open drawer place nuts in it and slam 2-3 times usually gets rid of cravings! Seriously man this shits killing you daily, you gonna wait till they tell you that spot on your gums don't look good, before you quit? Remember post early and be a man of your word and you cannot fail! I quit with you today! Pm me for my digits but only if you man enough to have your balls busted if you screw up,because see,I take this shit for what it is,life or death! I care
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I would be 42 years old. I know no one can quit for me and I can't do it for anyone else but only for me. I spit my chew out today and dumped my can down the toilet and have not looked back. Yeah, I'm using Valium but only to keep me calm. No Nic replacement crap or fake chew. I quit with you today pab.
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I would be 42 years old. I know no one can quit for me and I can't do it for anyone else but only for me. I spit my chew out today and dumped my can down the toilet and have not looked back. Yeah, I'm using Valium but only to keep me calm. No Nic replacement crap or fake chew. I quit with you today pab.
Look my friend, your not getting any younger. Not trying to scare you but I had a heart attack at age 48 and was in better than average shape, doctor said dipping was major factor, so frigging bad of an addict took me almost 2 year's later to quit, that's damn pitiful. What I'm trying to say it's not just killing by cancer but numerous other ways. I looked at my grandkids and damn near cried thinking about how they would be scared of me without a lip, jaw ,see my point is you can do this and I will be on your side!
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I would be 42 years old. I know no one can quit for me and I can't do it for anyone else but only for me. I spit my chew out today and dumped my can down the toilet and have not looked back. Yeah, I'm using Valium but only to keep me calm. No Nic replacement crap or fake chew. I quit with you today pab.
Look my friend, your not getting any younger. Not trying to scare you but I had a heart attack at age 48 and was in better than average shape, doctor said dipping was major factor, so frigging bad of an addict took me almost 2 year's later to quit, that's damn pitiful. What I'm trying to say it's not just killing by cancer but numerous other ways. I looked at my grandkids and damn near cried thinking about how they would be scared of me without a lip, jaw ,see my point is you can do this and I will be on your side!
I see your point for sure. it is a scary thought to think of my self with a cancer or missing jaw. I knew I wanted to quit. When I was referring to the doctor earlier it was just to find out if it was ok for me to take valium, not to quit. I was quitting regarless of the fact. No one was changing my mind or making it up for me today. I made a promise to yall and I intend on staying quit today.
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I would be 42 years old. I know no one can quit for me and I can't do it for anyone else but only for me. I spit my chew out today and dumped my can down the toilet and have not looked back. Yeah, I'm using Valium but only to keep me calm. No Nic replacement crap or fake chew. I quit with you today pab.
Look my friend, your not getting any younger. Not trying to scare you but I had a heart attack at age 48 and was in better than average shape, doctor said dipping was major factor, so frigging bad of an addict took me almost 2 year's later to quit, that's damn pitiful. What I'm trying to say it's not just killing by cancer but numerous other ways. I looked at my grandkids and damn near cried thinking about how they would be scared of me without a lip, jaw ,see my point is you can do this and I will be on your side!
I see your point for sure. it is a scary thought to think of my self with a cancer or missing jaw. I knew I wanted to quit. When I was referring to the doctor earlier it was just to find out if it was ok for me to take valium, not to quit. I was quitting regarless of the fact. No one was changing my mind or making it up for me today. I made a promise to yall and I intend on staying quit today.
The promise is to yourself first. We can kick your ass here every day but in the end it is up to you to do it.
I quit with you today.
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Thx Stranger. I quit with you today as well bud.
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Day 2 ..... Never thought I would make a day 1 out of it. I am so glad I came and posted roll and read many many forums. Now on to day 2.
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Day 2 ..... Never thought I would make a day 1 out of it. I am so glad I came and posted roll and read many many forums. Now on to day 2.
You are a bad ass! I am a couple weeks ahead of you and I promise it gets a shit ton better. The craves are fleeting at best now and I have my life back. I was more of a ninja/ closet dipper. My wife thought I quit years ago (which is technically true, but I started a year later). She doesn't really know what I struggled with the past several weeks, in fact only y'all do.
Having your wife right there supporting and pushing you will be a huge assist. Just don't take your rage out on her (yeah its coming...). Stock up on some snacks, sunflower seeds, and gum. The 10-15 pounds you gain over the next few weeks are great, because the exercise you have to do later to lose them will also help strengthen your quit!
Basically the decision you made yesterday will only lead to a positive outcome. No poison in your mouth, healthier lifestyle, improved hydration, more exercise, new hobbies as a distraction, and even financial benefits. Remember, I know it has been said by many here before me, "Quitting won't kill you, but continuing to support your addiction will"
I quit with you today.
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Nice job posting up day 2 Porky. Now just keep that promise, and that's one step further into the grave for ol' nicotine.
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Here's more fuel for your fire...
I was a 25 year user. 2 to 2.5 cans a day. That's an insane amount of nicotine, man. I could easily stuff half a can in my face. At times... it made me sick enough to puke. It was just too damn much for my body. But... what did I do after it passed? Yep... packed another'n in my hole. Each day was a trip or 2 to the store. Ninja style too. Wife needed gas? I'll go! Need sugar? I'll go. Hell... I even picked up my daughter late from school because that trip to get dip NEEDED to get done. My life was a damn near constant planning session to fit in dip.
Holy. Hell.
The time and energy and money wasted is something I can't even think about. The all encompassing freedom of quitting is redemptive bro. Even close to 900 days quit I can find something new to appreciate every day because of that scary as hell "day 1" I typed April 17, 2013. You need to love your quit and revel in how bad this beginning sucks. It's you healing and it's you finding real freedom. That's... badass.
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Nice job posting up day 2 Porky. Now just keep that promise, and that's one step further into the grave for ol' nicotine.
Hi KingNothing
Nothing more I would rather do that to post a day 2 roll and go for another glorious day with out the nic bitch.
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Here's more fuel for your fire...
I was a 25 year user. 2 to 2.5 cans a day. That's an insane amount of nicotine, man. I could easily stuff half a can in my face. At times... it made me sick enough to puke. It was just too damn much for my body. But... what did I do after it passed? Yep... packed another'n in my hole. Each day was a trip or 2 to the store. Ninja style too. Wife needed gas? I'll go! Need sugar? I'll go. Hell... I even picked up my daughter late from school because that trip to get dip NEEDED to get done. My life was a damn near constant planning session to fit in dip.
Holy. Hell.
The time and energy and money wasted is something I can't even think about. The all encompassing freedom of quitting is redemptive bro. Even close to 900 days quit I can find something new to appreciate every day because of that scary as hell "day 1" I typed April 17, 2013. You need to love your quit and revel in how bad this beginning sucks. It's you healing and it's you finding real freedom. That's... badass.
Hi Applejack.
I had been chewing not 25 years but more like 19. I to would pack my lip so dam tight puking would set in. It was fucking rediculous and yet I still did it. I ued to chew an can and half a day then I decided If I could cut down to a can every 3 days I was golden!!! WRONG! I wasn't golden I was a fucking idiot.
Not sure if my trips were as in depth as yours but I do recall making excuses to go to town so I could get a can of dip without the wife knowing all though in all actuality she really did know. I just didnt think so.
So far on day 2 the suck is not so bad. Cravings are minimal at best. No rage or anger yet. What I do have is a headache and a nasty ass fucking taste in my mouth that wont go away even after brushing..... repeatedly.
So for not I sit here and read on and quit today with all you badasses!!!! Thanks for being here and having such words of wisdom. Take care and rock on!!!
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Here's more fuel for your fire...
I was a 25 year user. 2 to 2.5 cans a day. That's an insane amount of nicotine, man. I could easily stuff half a can in my face. At times... it made me sick enough to puke. It was just too damn much for my body. But... what did I do after it passed? Yep... packed another'n in my hole. Each day was a trip or 2 to the store. Ninja style too. Wife needed gas? I'll go! Need sugar? I'll go. Hell... I even picked up my daughter late from school because that trip to get dip NEEDED to get done. My life was a damn near constant planning session to fit in dip.
Holy. Hell.
The time and energy and money wasted is something I can't even think about. The all encompassing freedom of quitting is redemptive bro. Even close to 900 days quit I can find something new to appreciate every day because of that scary as hell "day 1" I typed April 17, 2013. You need to love your quit and revel in how bad this beginning sucks. It's you healing and it's you finding real freedom. That's... badass.
Hi Applejack.
I had been chewing not 25 years but more like 19. I to would pack my lip so dam tight puking would set in. It was fucking rediculous and yet I still did it. I ued to chew an can and half a day then I decided If I could cut down to a can every 3 days I was golden!!! WRONG! I wasn't golden I was a fucking idiot.
Not sure if my trips were as in depth as yours but I do recall making excuses to go to town so I could get a can of dip without the wife knowing all though in all actuality she really did know. I just didnt think so.
So far on day 2 the suck is not so bad. Cravings are minimal at best. No rage or anger yet. What I do have is a headache and a nasty ass fucking taste in my mouth that wont go away even after brushing..... repeatedly.
So for not I sit here and read on and quit today with all you badasses!!!! Thanks for being here and having such words of wisdom. Take care and rock on!!!
Dude... Atomic Fireballs.
Get some!
I did full on cold turkey... no fake or anything. I had to break that cycle. But... Atomic Fireballs were my bitch for a looooong ass time! I used them like it was my job.They burn and they last forever... if you don't try to chomp 'em like me. Chipped a tooth and had to call it good cuz they were becoming a crutch too! Whatever it takes, man. Rock on...
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Here's more fuel for your fire...
I was a 25 year user. 2 to 2.5 cans a day. That's an insane amount of nicotine, man. I could easily stuff half a can in my face. At times... it made me sick enough to puke. It was just too damn much for my body. But... what did I do after it passed? Yep... packed another'n in my hole. Each day was a trip or 2 to the store. Ninja style too. Wife needed gas? I'll go! Need sugar? I'll go. Hell... I even picked up my daughter late from school because that trip to get dip NEEDED to get done. My life was a damn near constant planning session to fit in dip.
Holy. Hell.
The time and energy and money wasted is something I can't even think about. The all encompassing freedom of quitting is redemptive bro. Even close to 900 days quit I can find something new to appreciate every day because of that scary as hell "day 1" I typed April 17, 2013. You need to love your quit and revel in how bad this beginning sucks. It's you healing and it's you finding real freedom. That's... badass.
Hi Applejack.
I had been chewing not 25 years but more like 19. I to would pack my lip so dam tight puking would set in. It was fucking rediculous and yet I still did it. I ued to chew an can and half a day then I decided If I could cut down to a can every 3 days I was golden!!! WRONG! I wasn't golden I was a fucking idiot.
Not sure if my trips were as in depth as yours but I do recall making excuses to go to town so I could get a can of dip without the wife knowing all though in all actuality she really did know. I just didnt think so.
So far on day 2 the suck is not so bad. Cravings are minimal at best. No rage or anger yet. What I do have is a headache and a nasty ass fucking taste in my mouth that wont go away even after brushing..... repeatedly.
So for not I sit here and read on and quit today with all you badasses!!!! Thanks for being here and having such words of wisdom. Take care and rock on!!!
Dude... Atomic Fireballs.
Get some!
I did full on cold turkey... no fake or anything. I had to break that cycle. But... Atomic Fireballs were my bitch for a looooong ass time! I used them like it was my job.They burn and they last forever... if you don't try to chomp 'em like me. Chipped a tooth and had to call it good cuz they were becoming a crutch too! Whatever it takes, man. Rock on...
Sunflower seeds and peanuts here. I do like atomic fireballs though. I might have to try them out. If anything just to try and get this funky ass taste from my mouth that even brushing wont take away.
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Try flossing with a mint flavored dental floss. :D
You are doing awesome DJ! Just think today you will have quit twice as many days as yesterday.
I quit with you and I can't wait to see your name in the roll with mine tomorrow.
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Try flossing with a mint flavored dental floss. :D
You are doing awesome DJ! Just think today you will have quit twice as many days as yesterday.
I quit with you and I can't wait to see your name in the roll with mine tomorrow.
Funny you should mention the floss. I have these little dentastick things for flossing that are mint as hell. Ive had one in my mouth dam near all day lol.
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Try flossing with a mint flavored dental floss. :D
You are doing awesome DJ! Just think today you will have quit twice as many days as yesterday.
I quit with you and I can't wait to see your name in the roll with mine tomorrow.
Funny you should mention the floss. I have these little dentastick things for flossing that are mint as hell. Ive had one in my mouth dam near all day lol.
It's the addiction trying to get you to put in a dip. Keeping fighting her, you got this.
I quit with you today.
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Its a little rougher today than it was yesterday I'm not even gonna lie. So far so good though. I just keep reading and working on this big ol bag of seeds that I have here. The fog is setting in for sure.
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Its a little rougher today than it was yesterday I'm not even gonna lie. So far so good though. I just keep reading and working on this big ol bag of seeds that I have here. The fog is setting in for sure.
Smells like some freedom up in here...
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Its a little rougher today than it was yesterday I'm not even gonna lie. So far so good though. I just keep reading and working on this big ol bag of seeds that I have here. The fog is setting in for sure.
Smells like some freedom up in here...
It's a constant battle for awhile but oh so worth it! I quit with you today my friend!
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Man I'm just gonna come right out and say it..... No other way to do it. Here goes....
This morning was a MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!!! So fucking bad this morn. I couldn't wait to get to my pc so I could jump on and make roll and post my promise to my self today. Holy fuck the cravings are so bad, but here I am on day 3 and no point in giving in now. Time to slam my balls in a dresser drawer a few times.
So I'm gonna take me some valiums and get ready for my brew club meeting today. I think today we are discussing the fine art of yeast reclomation.
Have a great day everyone!!
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Its a little rougher today than it was yesterday I'm not even gonna lie. So far so good though. I just keep reading and working on this big ol bag of seeds that I have here. The fog is setting in for sure.
Smells like some freedom up in here...
We can do this porkchop! We all know for a fact that we don't need the nic we just want it really bad. One day at a time then the next one. I feel pretty good today still little headache like you though. Let's go bro !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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well I made it through my meeting today with no dip. Drinking and dip just go together. I fought it off and did well. I just thought long and hard about my promise I made this morn.
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Day 4 folks. Today is starting out good. Not to bad. a little craving but not real bad. All the nic is now out of my body so now I think it is all mind games that are going to be played upon me. Now I need to watch my back more than ever.
Take care all and I quit with you all today!!!
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Day 4 folks. Today is starting out good. Not to bad. a little craving but not real bad. All the nic is now out of my body so now I think it is all mind games that are going to be played upon me. Now I need to watch my back more than ever.
Take care all and I quit with you all today!!!
Congrats DJ on making it through a hell of a day. You are a man of your word and you kept the promise of roll.
Keep fighting for today. Keep drinking the water, read, and post. You are strong and you have this.
I quit with you today my brother.
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Day 4 folks. Today is starting out good. Not to bad. a little craving but not real bad. All the nic is now out of my body so now I think it is all mind games that are going to be played upon me. Now I need to watch my back more than ever.
Take care all and I quit with you all today!!!
Congrats DJ on making it through a hell of a day. You are a man of your word and you kept the promise of roll.
Keep fighting for today. Keep drinking the water, read, and post. You are strong and you have this.
I quit with you today my brother.
It is truly mind games. You have learned the tools to win them,use them. Mind over matter you've got this and remember we're all here if you need us! Doing great! Damn proud of you! Quit on!
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Well it was a decent night tonight with minimal cravings. Went to my in-laws and watched some tv with them and then went and played with the horses all while nic free. I can't believe it!! Nic free! Woot!
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Well it was a decent night tonight with minimal cravings. Went to my in-laws and watched some tv with them and then went and played with the horses all while nic free. I can't believe it!! Nic free! Woot!
You're doing great Porkchop! Keep it up!
Day 4 or so was when the fog really started to drift in, but you've got this! Just keep posting in roll and keep your promise. B)B
I quit with you today and I will be honored to see your name next to mine in roll tomorrow.
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well folks, day 5 is here. Not really sure what to think today. Couple things I took notice to so far today.
1. I woke up this morn and had no crave for my morning dip what so ever. Hmmmm
2. I got out of bed, jumped up, got dressed and left home without even thinking of grabbing a can of dip. It was like I was on auto pilot. Not a thought at all. Normally before leaving home I had to make 100% sure my chew was in my pocket and how much I had and if I needed to stop and buy some or not before carrying out said plans. Not today!!!!
3. 2 doctors and 4 nurses expressed how proud they were of me today. That felt good.
Hey nic, 'Finger' I quit you today for the 5th day!!!!!!
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well folks, day 5 is here. Not really sure what to think today. Couple things I took notice to so far today.
1. I woke up this morn and had no crave for my morning dip what so ever. Hmmmm
2. I got out of bed, jumped up, got dressed and left home without even thinking of grabbing a can of dip. It was like I was on auto pilot. Not a thought at all. Normally before leaving home I had to make 100% sure my chew was in my pocket and how much I had and if I needed to stop and buy some or not before carrying out said plans. Not today!!!!
3. 2 doctors and 4 nurses expressed how proud they were of me today. That felt good.
Hey nic, 'Finger' I quit you today for the 5th day!!!!!!
It does get easier. Just keep an eye out. The last 24 hours(Day 12/13) have been the worst for me craving wise.
Keep strong and Quit on.
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well folks, day 5 is here. Not really sure what to think today. Couple things I took notice to so far today.
1. I woke up this morn and had no crave for my morning dip what so ever. Hmmmm
2. I got out of bed, jumped up, got dressed and left home without even thinking of grabbing a can of dip. It was like I was on auto pilot. Not a thought at all. Normally before leaving home I had to make 100% sure my chew was in my pocket and how much I had and if I needed to stop and buy some or not before carrying out said plans. Not today!!!!
3. 2 doctors and 4 nurses expressed how proud they were of me today. That felt good.
Hey nic, 'Finger' I quit you today for the 5th day!!!!!!
It does get easier. Just keep an eye out. The last 24 hours(Day 12/13) have been the worst for me craving wise.
Keep strong and Quit on.
The first few weeks are pretty unpredictable. My worst days were late 20's. Once you get the first month under your belts, the tide begins to even out and it's steady progress forward. Those first few weeks are anybody's guess, but I guarantee it will go away. Hang on tight to those quits brothers, you're winning everyday.
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well folks, day 5 is here. Not really sure what to think today. Couple things I took notice to so far today.
1. I woke up this morn and had no crave for my morning dip what so ever. Hmmmm
2. I got out of bed, jumped up, got dressed and left home without even thinking of grabbing a can of dip. It was like I was on auto pilot. Not a thought at all. Normally before leaving home I had to make 100% sure my chew was in my pocket and how much I had and if I needed to stop and buy some or not before carrying out said plans. Not today!!!!
3. 2 doctors and 4 nurses expressed how proud they were of me today. That felt good.
Hey nic, 'Finger' I quit you today for the 5th day!!!!!!
It does get easier. Just keep an eye out. The last 24 hours(Day 12/13) have been the worst for me craving wise.
Keep strong and Quit on.
The first few weeks are pretty unpredictable. My worst days were late 20's. Once you get the first month under your belts, the tide begins to even out and it's steady progress forward. Those first few weeks are anybody's guess, but I guarantee it will go away. Hang on tight to those quits brothers, you're winning everyday.
Look ,not trying to sound like a dick , but whatever the withdrawal symptoms are you can do this, it want kill you. Just be a man and sac up. I'm pretty sure that no one here enjoyed quitting but when a month or 2 goes by you will be damn proud of yourself and your family definitely will be! You're doing great, keep it up! Quit on!
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Well day 6 is here. So far so good today. Got some good chatting done in the chat room, posted some posts, got up got dish washer going and all that good shit. So far so good.
Is a symptom of quitting no symptoms at all because today feels....... normal. Due to that fact, Iam 100% on my guard today. I get a little leary at no symptoms.
So anyway, I quit with you all today now that I am sac'ed up and ready to roll.
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Day 7 is here today folks! I had a hard time seeing day 2 and 3 let alone day 7.
Not feeling bad at all really. just kind of going with the flow today. Coffee coffee and more coffee.
Anyhow, I'm gonna shut up now and go read some HOF speeches and words of wisdom. I'll catch up to ya'll later.
Swing by the chat room and say hello!
Ray
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Day 7 is here today folks! I had a hard time seeing day 2 and 3 let alone day 7.
Not feeling bad at all really. just kind of going with the flow today. Coffee coffee and more coffee.
Anyhow, I'm gonna shut up now and go read some HOF speeches and words of wisdom. I'll catch up to ya'll later.
Swing by the chat room and say hello!
Ray
Wow Porkchop, I just read your introduction post again and it is so much different than this last post. Almost like two different people...
Welcome to week 2!
I quit with you today my friend.
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Day 7 is here today folks! I had a hard time seeing day 2 and 3 let alone day 7.
Not feeling bad at all really. just kind of going with the flow today. Coffee coffee and more coffee.
Anyhow, I'm gonna shut up now and go read some HOF speeches and words of wisdom. I'll catch up to ya'll later.
Swing by the chat room and say hello!
Ray
Wow Porkchop, I just read your introduction post again and it is so much different than this last post. Almost like two different people...
Welcome to week 2!
I quit with you today my friend.
Welcome to a small taste of freedom! Stay smart, focused and involved as much as possible! Damn proud of you! Quit on!
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Solid first week under the books. Now, if I read your intro correctly, it was about this time last year you posted roll for a week, then upon discharging from the hospital you caved. Yea, I'm pretty sure, that's what I read. You caved...and you were posting roll up to said event.
Here you are today, 8-days in, and quit. Posting roll and keeping up a pretty tight intro page. Other quitters, including myself, are perusing your intro, reading, learning, and investing ourselves in you. Keep this in mind next time that nic bitch comes whispering in your ear...and she will whisper. You already have too many people invested, most notably yourself, to give in to her no matter what she whispers and tempts you with. If a can of "Dak" is put in front of you this time...I hope, for your sake, the outcome is different.
Keep quitting porkchop, I mean that, and I want the best for you. I only offer this blunt and direct post for your own benefit; don't be that guy from last year. Ever.
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Hi Steakbomb.
I got all the resources now that I need and very badly want it. I'm not gonna let it happen again. I got numbers to call/text live chat and the forums to post in. I make my daily promise not to let my self or anyone else down.
I quit with all of you today!!
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Hi Steakbomb.
I got all the resources now that I need and very badly want it. I'm not gonna let it happen again. I got numbers to call/text live chat and the forums to post in. I make my daily promise not to let my self or anyone else down.
I quit with all of you today!!
You have some bad ass quitters giving you some bad ass advice. We all tried to fight this battle alone. We all lost. With s team like the one you have assembled and the tools in your corner, as long as you keep your word you will win.
The reward is great. The feeling of freedom is indescribable. The money is good, the not killing yourself is good, the not hiding in shame is good, not scrambling to cover your tracks or make a run to the 7-11 is good... But let me tell you Sir... The freedom is life altering. One day at a time. Be aman of your word. You'll see.
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hey folks, what sup? Not a bunch here tonight. Chat is kinda of dead and not much else happening.
I just need to clear something up real quick. For some odd reason I was questioned about not posting roll but being all over the forum everywhere else. Lets be perfectly clear that I post either at midnight and end up first on the list, or I post within 10 minutes of me waking up and taking a piss and making coffee. Now there are days I dont get out of bed until 1 or 2 pm. kinda hard to post if I am still asleep. If 2 pm is just a status update for you by then, oh fucking well get over it I just woke up for christ sakes. I dont work and sometimes sleep all day and in to the afternoon.
Since I came back to this site I have faithfully posted roll and remain at 100% for 10 days. It dont get much better really. I hang out on live chat all day and all night. The only time you may not get ahold of me on chat is when I am eating lunch or dinner. other than, you will reach me. Want to check up on me otherwise, I am in the pre hof December 15 group the disciples. swing by and say hello to me. I would love to hear from you.
Anyhow, take care and protect your quit folks!
Ray
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Hi Steakbomb.
I got all the resources now that I need and very badly want it. I'm not gonna let it happen again. I got numbers to call/text live chat and the forums to post in. I make my daily promise not to let my self or anyone else down.
I quit with all of you today!!
You have some bad ass quitters giving you some bad ass advice. We all tried to fight this battle alone. We all lost. With s team like the one you have assembled and the tools in your corner, as long as you keep your word you will win.
The reward is great. The feeling of freedom is indescribable. The money is good, the not killing yourself is good, the not hiding in shame is good, not scrambling to cover your tracks or make a run to the 7-11 is good... But let me tell you Sir... The freedom is life altering. One day at a time. Be aman of your word. You'll see.
Hi Worktowin
yeah I do have some bad ass quitters in my corner and for that I am forever greatful. I am trying to do my part with new comers and these bad asses have/are doing for me. Swing b y chat sometime and say hello.
Take care!
Ray
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Well today was quite the little adventure. I had to travel out of state to go to my neurosurgeons office for spinal injections. I get steroid shots in my L5-S1 area. So when I got there and was checking in everything was cool and then I was filling out some paperwork and on the tobacco use I was actually able to check No!!!! YAHOO!!!! That is the first time in over 30 years I have been able to check no for tobacco use. Gave up smoking 3 packs per day 12 years ago and gave up the dip 13 days ago.
So all in all it was pretty dam cool answering no to tobacco use. I can actually do that now.
Take care all!
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Well today was quite the little adventure. I had to travel out of state to go to my neurosurgeons office for spinal injections. I get steroid shots in my L5-S1 area. So when I got there and was checking in everything was cool and then I was filling out some paperwork and on the tobacco use I was actually able to check No!!!! YAHOO!!!! That is the first time in over 30 years I have been able to check no for tobacco use. Gave up smoking 3 packs per day 12 years ago and gave up the dip 13 days ago.
So all in all it was pretty dam cool answering no to tobacco use. I can actually do that now.
Take care all!
It's called freedom bro, and it only gets better.
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Well well. Another day has gone by and no nic. I am free today!
So I had my first encounter with a heckler about my quit a couple days ago. I'm not sure if it was just smart ass or jealousy. I normally post of Facebook my day count and post a link to KTC and this someone says to me "hey all this talk makes me want to chew!". Nice. I didn't try to justify my self or my quit. I simply out witted him and make him look like an ass.
No for the bad news of it all, it was my very own brother! He is a real sarcastic , smart ass fucker by nature anyhow so it was to be expected. I felt good on the way I handled it and moved on.
Take care and protect your quit!!!
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Well here we go starting yet another day nic free. 22 days now. I can't believe I can honestly say that 22 dam days clean! Woot! Oh and by the way Cubs win! Cubs Win!!!!!
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Hello everyone. My name is Ray and I am an addict!
I started dipping back in 88 in high school and dipped for 4 years until I got out of school and just never did it again. Easy as could be really. Never even put a single thought to it. Fast forward to 2001....
I was a 3 pack per day smoker and I quit smoking one day because it was my time. It was rough but I did it. 6 months in my quit from smoking I was coaching C leauge baseball with my brother inlaw. He offered me a dip one day and then it started. That day I was at the store buying a tin of Kodiak. BIG mistake. I have been hooked ever since.
I decided after chewing for a year or two I was going to give it up. Ok so do it!! I did.... for 6 hours. In that 6 hours I had cold sweats, shakes, pukes, shits, laying on the couch all but in convulsions. Man did that suck really fucking suck!!! I caved and have been chewing til this day.
So I joined this site last year and gave it a try. I posted roll and all for about a week and then ended up in the hospital. No access to this site or anything. As soon as I got out of the hospital my wife had me a tin of Dak and off to the races I went yet again.
Fast forward to a few days ago....... So I decided to come back to KTC and check things out. I have a VERY strong desire not to dip today. Every time I put a dip in my mouth I feel pleasure but guilt all at the same time. I so badly want to quit. Actually, I can quit. It is easy to do. Ive done it millions of times. My issue is, I can't stop starting again. How do I not start again?
I tried it last night and made it 3 whole hours without a dip. Woke up this morn and decided to go for it and made it one whole hour. Man I seriously need help!!!! Why am I so weak?
Thanks for all the awesome people being here. You all are truly appreciated.
Ray
You are no different than any other addict. It's all the same and the good news is we all get it and can relate. Where you and I are different is that I was in the closet. My wife never would buy me a can. She always opened a can of whoop ass on me when she caught me.
You have to want to quit for you. Not for family, health, God or whoever. You and only you. Those other reasons are good motivation but not reasons an addict will quit using. When you are alone and nobody will know, because its you that wants to quit...you'll know to get help and not entertain those cravings.
You have to be humble (like you sound). You are weak and admitting you are weak and getting help...I can't explain it but that's what it takes to be strong.
Using addicts are the biggest liars I know. However, a humble addict who desires of himself to quit and change...that man can be a man of his word. Are you a man of your word? Can you keep a promise for 24 hours? Just 24 hours? I know you can quit nicotine for a day. So do it!
Also, flush everything...go to all your places you stash your cans and clean house and purify. Fumigate that nic bitch out of your life physically, mentally and spiritually.
You then Go post roll and keep your word today. When you wake up and it becomes today...do it. Post roll and go another 24.
Never miss roll. Sorry you were in the hospital but technology...you can text a quit brother to post roll for you but that promise keeps you from a knee jerk reaction and impulse. It gives you a second to seriously consider the consequences of caving. I personally wouldn't drink till you hit the Hall of fame. Most cave stories have drinking involved and you need your whits about you to stay on target!!!!
That's enough for today. Go post roll and do this. Fuck feeling guilty, rid yourself of the mistress and the blinders come off. You will be stunned at what a sham nicotine and UStobacco is. Your only regret in quitting and braking the chains of can humping is that you didn't do it sooner. Everyone has their moment of accepting truth. Right now is that moment for you. Are you going to embrace the suck for freedom or are you going back to your cell of addiction?
Its what you want, not me. I'm just telling you to jump into the pool and do it! If not, your that guy I feel sorry for. There still are 3% of Americans that are can humpers. You pay more in taxes and your money supports a domestic terrorist organization that doesn't give 2 shits about all the cancer related deaths caused by their product. You and your children are only dollar signs to them. KTC takes nothing from you. You pay them nothing for help but if you piss on that help, you deserve to hump that can and blow UStobacco. You gave them more and got NOTHING in return. YOU GOT NOTHING!
KTC takes nothing from you and you get your freedom from the strength you gain. Between the tow organizations...All have tools in them but one cares and the other kills...
Quit on.
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Well, as the days roll by I find my self thinking about dip less and less by the day. When i wake up now and start my day, dip don't even cross my mind. The only time it does is after I brew my coffee and then post roll. The same thing happened to me 12 years ago when I quit smoking. I noticed that one day the thought no longer even crossed my mind. Now that I am noticing this, this is the point in time when I make sure my guard is well in place. This is the position where bad things can happen. I have to stop and remind my self that I am an addict and to use my tools that I have available to me to use.
Anyway, I'm to the point of rambling now so I'll shut up. Take care everyone!
Ray
P.S. Anyone know where to stream MLB at? My satellite is getting shut in the morn and I have to catch the cubs game.
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
Hey -
threw a shout to you over on facebook. Yea I know some will say why not here, but wanted to send it there for what I call "Making it more real" where you can see my face in pics, you can see my wife and family.
Anyway one point I made there is give it time. As you are quitting a day at a time, each day you make a positive impact on that front. You are letting your system heal from the years of poisoning. You are letting your brain re-adjust to the new chemistry. You are taking it slow in this marathon to re-write yourself.
So take that lesson to other parts of your life. Life is not a sprint or quick fix, it is a marathon. So maybe start with the weight loss. Go for a short, leisurely walk each day. Do it by yourself to enjoy the outdoors, the sights, smells. Do it with your wife/family to enjoy it together. But let it be the first step in beating the guy who just sits on the couch each day. Then as it gets better build on that. But like quitting, give it the proper time.
You will do it if you put your mind to it, I have no doubt about that.
yell if you should need.
-
Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
Hey -
threw a shout to you over on facebook. Yea I know some will say why not here, but wanted to send it there for what I call "Making it more real" where you can see my face in pics, you can see my wife and family.
Anyway one point I made there is give it time. As you are quitting a day at a time, each day you make a positive impact on that front. You are letting your system heal from the years of poisoning. You are letting your brain re-adjust to the new chemistry. You are taking it slow in this marathon to re-write yourself.
So take that lesson to other parts of your life. Life is not a sprint or quick fix, it is a marathon. So maybe start with the weight loss. Go for a short, leisurely walk each day. Do it by yourself to enjoy the outdoors, the sights, smells. Do it with your wife/family to enjoy it together. But let it be the first step in beating the guy who just sits on the couch each day. Then as it gets better build on that. But like quitting, give it the proper time.
You will do it if you put your mind to it, I have no doubt about that.
yell if you should need.
There's some sound advice here. I know that I have turned a corner by hitting the sack either with or before my wife.
Now that I'm not waiting for everyone to hit the hay so I could dip freely. I would say maybe just start there. Get your internal clock back to a normal work
schedule. Bed early and Up early to get a walk in and plan the day ahead. Keep chin up dude. Quitting is a huge step in the right direction of good health. Both mental and
physical. Proud to quit with you today.
-
Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
Hey -
threw a shout to you over on facebook. Yea I know some will say why not here, but wanted to send it there for what I call "Making it more real" where you can see my face in pics, you can see my wife and family.
Anyway one point I made there is give it time. As you are quitting a day at a time, each day you make a positive impact on that front. You are letting your system heal from the years of poisoning. You are letting your brain re-adjust to the new chemistry. You are taking it slow in this marathon to re-write yourself.
So take that lesson to other parts of your life. Life is not a sprint or quick fix, it is a marathon. So maybe start with the weight loss. Go for a short, leisurely walk each day. Do it by yourself to enjoy the outdoors, the sights, smells. Do it with your wife/family to enjoy it together. But let it be the first step in beating the guy who just sits on the couch each day. Then as it gets better build on that. But like quitting, give it the proper time.
You will do it if you put your mind to it, I have no doubt about that.
yell if you should need.
There's some sound advice here. I know that I have turned a corner by hitting the sack either with or before my wife.
Now that I'm not waiting for everyone to hit the hay so I could dip freely. I would say maybe just start there. Get your internal clock back to a normal work
schedule. Bed early and Up early to get a walk in and plan the day ahead. Keep chin up dude. Quitting is a huge step in the right direction of good health. Both mental and
physical. Proud to quit with you today.
Agree with all this advice. I would especially encourage you to take W2W's advice about walking a couple times a day. Wake up in the morning, grab your cup of coffee, and head out and pound the pavement for a half hour. After dinner, take your wife on a romantic walk and show her some cool stuff you saw on your morning walk.
The bottom line is you have to change something if you want something to change.
-
Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
Hey -
threw a shout to you over on facebook. Yea I know some will say why not here, but wanted to send it there for what I call "Making it more real" where you can see my face in pics, you can see my wife and family.
Anyway one point I made there is give it time. As you are quitting a day at a time, each day you make a positive impact on that front. You are letting your system heal from the years of poisoning. You are letting your brain re-adjust to the new chemistry. You are taking it slow in this marathon to re-write yourself.
So take that lesson to other parts of your life. Life is not a sprint or quick fix, it is a marathon. So maybe start with the weight loss. Go for a short, leisurely walk each day. Do it by yourself to enjoy the outdoors, the sights, smells. Do it with your wife/family to enjoy it together. But let it be the first step in beating the guy who just sits on the couch each day. Then as it gets better build on that. But like quitting, give it the proper time.
You will do it if you put your mind to it, I have no doubt about that.
yell if you should need.
There's some sound advice here. I know that I have turned a corner by hitting the sack either with or before my wife.
Now that I'm not waiting for everyone to hit the hay so I could dip freely. I would say maybe just start there. Get your internal clock back to a normal work
schedule. Bed early and Up early to get a walk in and plan the day ahead. Keep chin up dude. Quitting is a huge step in the right direction of good health. Both mental and
physical. Proud to quit with you today.
Agree with all this advice. I would especially encourage you to take W2W's advice about walking a couple times a day. Wake up in the morning, grab your cup of coffee, and head out and pound the pavement for a half hour. After dinner, take your wife on a romantic walk and show her some cool stuff you saw on your morning walk.
The bottom line is you have to change something if you want something to change.
That is sound advice for sure. Contrary to popular believe, my doctor had me walking 3 miles per day. I did that for a good while until my back happened. I woke up one morning and could all but not walk. The years of abuse had finally caught up to me. Also, I had fallen off the back end of a combine which didnt help. I had an MRI done and got a 8 page report on how bad my back really was. When my doctor talked with me about it she said ray do you know how bad this is and what all this report means? I was like well no. Im not a doctor. In her exact words were, you are in trouble.
When I fell off the combine I blew 3 discs in my back and my spine shifted a half inch. As the old term goes you are off your rocker, I am literally off my rocker by 1/2 inch. That is where that old term comes from..... Spinal stenosis.
Another little tid bit as well. When I eat, it is out of a 3 chamber plate. I wish I could include a pic. It only allows for so much and that is it and I only eat one plate. Now it was pointed out that I was a food addict..... Nice ....... I like it. That is reaching for straws when you dont know the whole story. Truth be know I eat less than most people. MY issue is I can't get up and move to work it off. plain and simple. I know ...... I used to be there too. Fat person means he or she eats so fucking much their grocery bill must bankrupt them. Most of the time that is true but not always. So PLEASE understand ones story before assuming the worst.
My Neuro surgeon said he will do surgery on my back to get me back up and walking again if I can loose 80 lb. Ok liquid diet and weight loss surgery it is. So went to talk to weight loss specialist and they wont do weight loss surgery until I can get up and walk at least 1 mile. Catch 22. I'm fucking stuck!!!!! Now what? So now I am walking on my tread mill and it fucks up on me. I talk to the manufacturer and their is a 300 lb weight limit. REAL FUCKING GOOD.
I am real close to just saying fuck it and giving up. BUT I won't!!! That is what most people think I am doing or am going to do. I will find a way one way or the other. I quit smoking 3 packs per day and I quit dipping. 2 of the hardest things to do. Now on to the rest of my life which I refuse to give up on.
Ray AKA DjPorkchop day 93 ODAAT EDD WUPP FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
Hey -
threw a shout to you over on facebook. Yea I know some will say why not here, but wanted to send it there for what I call "Making it more real" where you can see my face in pics, you can see my wife and family.
Anyway one point I made there is give it time. As you are quitting a day at a time, each day you make a positive impact on that front. You are letting your system heal from the years of poisoning. You are letting your brain re-adjust to the new chemistry. You are taking it slow in this marathon to re-write yourself.
So take that lesson to other parts of your life. Life is not a sprint or quick fix, it is a marathon. So maybe start with the weight loss. Go for a short, leisurely walk each day. Do it by yourself to enjoy the outdoors, the sights, smells. Do it with your wife/family to enjoy it together. But let it be the first step in beating the guy who just sits on the couch each day. Then as it gets better build on that. But like quitting, give it the proper time.
You will do it if you put your mind to it, I have no doubt about that.
yell if you should need.
There's some sound advice here. I know that I have turned a corner by hitting the sack either with or before my wife.
Now that I'm not waiting for everyone to hit the hay so I could dip freely. I would say maybe just start there. Get your internal clock back to a normal work
schedule. Bed early and Up early to get a walk in and plan the day ahead. Keep chin up dude. Quitting is a huge step in the right direction of good health. Both mental and
physical. Proud to quit with you today.
Agree with all this advice. I would especially encourage you to take W2W's advice about walking a couple times a day. Wake up in the morning, grab your cup of coffee, and head out and pound the pavement for a half hour. After dinner, take your wife on a romantic walk and show her some cool stuff you saw on your morning walk.
The bottom line is you have to change something if you want something to change.
That is sound advice for sure. Contrary to popular believe, my doctor had me walking 3 miles per day. I did that for a good while until my back happened. I woke up one morning and could all but not walk. The years of abuse had finally caught up to me. Also, I had fallen off the back end of a combine which didnt help. I had an MRI done and got a 8 page report on how bad my back really was. When my doctor talked with me about it she said ray do you know how bad this is and what all this report means? I was like well no. Im not a doctor. In her exact words were, you are in trouble.
When I fell off the combine I blew 3 discs in my back and my spine shifted a half inch. As the old term goes you are off your rocker, I am literally off my rocker by 1/2 inch. That is where that old term comes from..... Spinal stenosis.
Another little tid bit as well. When I eat, it is out of a 3 chamber plate. I wish I could include a pic. It only allows for so much and that is it and I only eat one plate. Now it was pointed out that I was a food addict..... Nice ....... I like it. That is reaching for straws when you dont know the whole story. Truth be know I eat less than most people. MY issue is I can't get up and move to work it off. plain and simple. I know ...... I used to be there too. Fat person means he or she eats so fucking much their grocery bill must bankrupt them. Most of the time that is true but not always. So PLEASE understand ones story before assuming the worst.
My Neuro surgeon said he will do surgery on my back to get me back up and walking again if I can loose 80 lb. Ok liquid diet and weight loss surgery it is. So went to talk to weight loss specialist and they wont do weight loss surgery until I can get up and walk at least 1 mile. Catch 22. I'm fucking stuck!!!!! Now what? So now I am walking on my tread mill and it fucks up on me. I talk to the manufacturer and their is a 300 lb weight limit. REAL FUCKING GOOD.
I am real close to just saying fuck it and giving up. BUT I won't!!! That is what most people think I am doing or am going to do. I will find a way one way or the other. I quit smoking 3 packs per day and I quit dipping. 2 of the hardest things to do. Now on to the rest of my life which I refuse to give up on.
Ray AKA DjPorkchop day 93 ODAAT EDD WUPP FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!
Ray, sounds like time to get creative... not sure if any of this is practical for you but might spark an idea that will work. Thinking out loud, walking is good because it exercises large muscle groups ... swimming would as well, but problematic in winter. Do they make something like a recumbent exercise bicycle? (Or the exercise resistance unit attached to one). Can you do lots of things like arm curls (it would take a shitload of reps, but it is active)? I'm thinking any sustained activity that lasted half an hour a couple times a day would be helpful.
You have your goals to break the catch 22. Somewhere is a way to reach them.
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
Hey -
threw a shout to you over on facebook. Yea I know some will say why not here, but wanted to send it there for what I call "Making it more real" where you can see my face in pics, you can see my wife and family.
Anyway one point I made there is give it time. As you are quitting a day at a time, each day you make a positive impact on that front. You are letting your system heal from the years of poisoning. You are letting your brain re-adjust to the new chemistry. You are taking it slow in this marathon to re-write yourself.
So take that lesson to other parts of your life. Life is not a sprint or quick fix, it is a marathon. So maybe start with the weight loss. Go for a short, leisurely walk each day. Do it by yourself to enjoy the outdoors, the sights, smells. Do it with your wife/family to enjoy it together. But let it be the first step in beating the guy who just sits on the couch each day. Then as it gets better build on that. But like quitting, give it the proper time.
You will do it if you put your mind to it, I have no doubt about that.
yell if you should need.
There's some sound advice here. I know that I have turned a corner by hitting the sack either with or before my wife.
Now that I'm not waiting for everyone to hit the hay so I could dip freely. I would say maybe just start there. Get your internal clock back to a normal work
schedule. Bed early and Up early to get a walk in and plan the day ahead. Keep chin up dude. Quitting is a huge step in the right direction of good health. Both mental and
physical. Proud to quit with you today.
Agree with all this advice. I would especially encourage you to take W2W's advice about walking a couple times a day. Wake up in the morning, grab your cup of coffee, and head out and pound the pavement for a half hour. After dinner, take your wife on a romantic walk and show her some cool stuff you saw on your morning walk.
The bottom line is you have to change something if you want something to change.
That is sound advice for sure. Contrary to popular believe, my doctor had me walking 3 miles per day. I did that for a good while until my back happened. I woke up one morning and could all but not walk. The years of abuse had finally caught up to me. Also, I had fallen off the back end of a combine which didnt help. I had an MRI done and got a 8 page report on how bad my back really was. When my doctor talked with me about it she said ray do you know how bad this is and what all this report means? I was like well no. Im not a doctor. In her exact words were, you are in trouble.
When I fell off the combine I blew 3 discs in my back and my spine shifted a half inch. As the old term goes you are off your rocker, I am literally off my rocker by 1/2 inch. That is where that old term comes from..... Spinal stenosis.
Another little tid bit as well. When I eat, it is out of a 3 chamber plate. I wish I could include a pic. It only allows for so much and that is it and I only eat one plate. Now it was pointed out that I was a food addict..... Nice ....... I like it. That is reaching for straws when you dont know the whole story. Truth be know I eat less than most people. MY issue is I can't get up and move to work it off. plain and simple. I know ...... I used to be there too. Fat person means he or she eats so fucking much their grocery bill must bankrupt them. Most of the time that is true but not always. So PLEASE understand ones story before assuming the worst.
My Neuro surgeon said he will do surgery on my back to get me back up and walking again if I can loose 80 lb. Ok liquid diet and weight loss surgery it is. So went to talk to weight loss specialist and they wont do weight loss surgery until I can get up and walk at least 1 mile. Catch 22. I'm fucking stuck!!!!! Now what? So now I am walking on my tread mill and it fucks up on me. I talk to the manufacturer and their is a 300 lb weight limit. REAL FUCKING GOOD.
I am real close to just saying fuck it and giving up. BUT I won't!!! That is what most people think I am doing or am going to do. I will find a way one way or the other. I quit smoking 3 packs per day and I quit dipping. 2 of the hardest things to do. Now on to the rest of my life which I refuse to give up on.
Ray AKA DjPorkchop day 93 ODAAT EDD WUPP FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!
Ray, sounds like time to get creative... not sure if any of this is practical for you but might spark an idea that will work. Thinking out loud, walking is good because it exercises large muscle groups ... swimming would as well, but problematic in winter. Do they make something like a recumbent exercise bicycle? (Or the exercise resistance unit attached to one). Can you do lots of things like arm curls (it would take a shitload of reps, but it is active)? I'm thinking any sustained activity that lasted half an hour a couple times a day would be helpful.
You have your goals to break the catch 22. Somewhere is a way to reach them.
Wow Chop, that is some major life issues you are dealing with. But what i take from your attitude is you are bad ass, And have the attitude of a warrior. I'm proud of you, quit brother.
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
Hey -
threw a shout to you over on facebook. Yea I know some will say why not here, but wanted to send it there for what I call "Making it more real" where you can see my face in pics, you can see my wife and family.
Anyway one point I made there is give it time. As you are quitting a day at a time, each day you make a positive impact on that front. You are letting your system heal from the years of poisoning. You are letting your brain re-adjust to the new chemistry. You are taking it slow in this marathon to re-write yourself.
So take that lesson to other parts of your life. Life is not a sprint or quick fix, it is a marathon. So maybe start with the weight loss. Go for a short, leisurely walk each day. Do it by yourself to enjoy the outdoors, the sights, smells. Do it with your wife/family to enjoy it together. But let it be the first step in beating the guy who just sits on the couch each day. Then as it gets better build on that. But like quitting, give it the proper time.
You will do it if you put your mind to it, I have no doubt about that.
yell if you should need.
There's some sound advice here. I know that I have turned a corner by hitting the sack either with or before my wife.
Now that I'm not waiting for everyone to hit the hay so I could dip freely. I would say maybe just start there. Get your internal clock back to a normal work
schedule. Bed early and Up early to get a walk in and plan the day ahead. Keep chin up dude. Quitting is a huge step in the right direction of good health. Both mental and
physical. Proud to quit with you today.
Agree with all this advice. I would especially encourage you to take W2W's advice about walking a couple times a day. Wake up in the morning, grab your cup of coffee, and head out and pound the pavement for a half hour. After dinner, take your wife on a romantic walk and show her some cool stuff you saw on your morning walk.
The bottom line is you have to change something if you want something to change.
That is sound advice for sure. Contrary to popular believe, my doctor had me walking 3 miles per day. I did that for a good while until my back happened. I woke up one morning and could all but not walk. The years of abuse had finally caught up to me. Also, I had fallen off the back end of a combine which didnt help. I had an MRI done and got a 8 page report on how bad my back really was. When my doctor talked with me about it she said ray do you know how bad this is and what all this report means? I was like well no. Im not a doctor. In her exact words were, you are in trouble.
When I fell off the combine I blew 3 discs in my back and my spine shifted a half inch. As the old term goes you are off your rocker, I am literally off my rocker by 1/2 inch. That is where that old term comes from..... Spinal stenosis.
Another little tid bit as well. When I eat, it is out of a 3 chamber plate. I wish I could include a pic. It only allows for so much and that is it and I only eat one plate. Now it was pointed out that I was a food addict..... Nice ....... I like it. That is reaching for straws when you dont know the whole story. Truth be know I eat less than most people. MY issue is I can't get up and move to work it off. plain and simple. I know ...... I used to be there too. Fat person means he or she eats so fucking much their grocery bill must bankrupt them. Most of the time that is true but not always. So PLEASE understand ones story before assuming the worst.
My Neuro surgeon said he will do surgery on my back to get me back up and walking again if I can loose 80 lb. Ok liquid diet and weight loss surgery it is. So went to talk to weight loss specialist and they wont do weight loss surgery until I can get up and walk at least 1 mile. Catch 22. I'm fucking stuck!!!!! Now what? So now I am walking on my tread mill and it fucks up on me. I talk to the manufacturer and their is a 300 lb weight limit. REAL FUCKING GOOD.
I am real close to just saying fuck it and giving up. BUT I won't!!! That is what most people think I am doing or am going to do. I will find a way one way or the other. I quit smoking 3 packs per day and I quit dipping. 2 of the hardest things to do. Now on to the rest of my life which I refuse to give up on.
Ray AKA DjPorkchop day 93 ODAAT EDD WUPP FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!
Ray, sounds like time to get creative... not sure if any of this is practical for you but might spark an idea that will work. Thinking out loud, walking is good because it exercises large muscle groups ... swimming would as well, but problematic in winter. Do they make something like a recumbent exercise bicycle? (Or the exercise resistance unit attached to one). Can you do lots of things like arm curls (it would take a shitload of reps, but it is active)? I'm thinking any sustained activity that lasted half an hour a couple times a day would be helpful.
You have your goals to break the catch 22. Somewhere is a way to reach them.
Wow Chop, that is some major life issues you are dealing with. But what i take from your attitude is you are bad ass, And have the attitude of a warrior. I'm proud of you, quit brother.
Ray a.k.a. Chop,
Want to share something with you man. Maybe this can provide some additional motivation, maybe not. Either way, your mention about your situation took me back to a dark place...
My father started taking a turn for the worse and allowing himself to become stagnant when I was maybe 5 or so. By the time I was playing 12 and under baseball he was too large to get out of his vehicle to watch me play ball. So he parked that fucking Ford Ranger alongside the 3rd base line and watched from inside the cab. In 7-8 years, he had gone from 6'2'' 195lbs to 6'2'' 390lbs.
He pretty much has maintained that shape until about 6 months ago when he finally decided to get his shit under control. From my vantage point, I have hated my father since I was a boy... and it was a hatred based on the fact that despite my young age, I knew his weight was something he could control, and chose not too. All of the shit that I missed out on requiring his participation was particularly painful as I had some friends whose fathers were never in the picture or had passed away prematurely. Mine, on the other hand, other than being grossly obese, what completely healthy.
My dad and I went to the World Series to watch our Rangers play not 5 years ago and he never made it out of the parking lot. I walked into the Ballpark by myself with an $800 premium ticket in my pocket, had some drinks at a bar inside the stadium, and ended up upgrading a guy I met that was sitting in the outfield upper deck. I was never so fucking angry in my entire life. I was angry to the point I gave away an $800 ticket just because I knew I had wasted my money on my father. For really the first time in my life, I was finally in a financial position to do something for him, rather than him for me, and his fat ass couldn't even enjoy it.
Now, I hear what you're saying about how you practice portion control, but it is physically impossible to wind up 350+ if you're following a strict diet. It's anatomically impossible. So, I urge you to re-evaluate that. Not calling you out, but I know a thing or two about what kind of caloric intake is required to maintain a certain weight with no other factors considered. Your Basal Metabolic Rate (look it up), is the bare minimum of calories your body needs to take in just to stay alive... think of it as how many calories you would need if you were strapped to a bed 24/7.
My father finally decided to take his life back, and with the help of a FitBit, MyFitnessPal to track his food, and a bare minimum of physical activity (walking), he has dropped 75 lbs in 5 months. He's at a point now where he no longer has to have a C-pap machine strapped to his face while sleeping because his weight is no-longer suffocating him. That means he's sleeping better, which in turn means he has more energy, which in turn means his metabolism isn't the gutter, which in turn means he's more active, which in turn means he's burning more calories per day.... you get the point.
Now I know your back is fucked up proper and I cannot imagine that pain that is causing you... but that pain is a way of your body screaming at you to give in some help. Your frame was never meant to support that amount of weight. Start small, ANYTHING. Re-evaluate your portions, and more importantly, what is making up those portions. Eating healthy, although generally more expensive than not, does not have to break your bank. I know you feel like you're against the wall and in a place where "fuck it what's the point? it's too late" seems reasonable... but if you do not attack your weight problem with the same vigor you quit the Nic Bitch, none of this will matter. 385, unless you're 6'8" and above, will kill you dead. Just as cancer or any other terminal illness.
Where there is a will... there is a fucking way. Imagine the pride your wife and children will have as they see you kick the shit out of this weight problem and start to take back your life. I guarantee you spinal issues will begin to fade as your internal structure no longer has to bear such a load.
If this came across as harsh, I apologize. Watching my father in this state for the past 25 years of my life has had a big time negative effect on our relationship. A lot of years slipped away because dad couldn't move more than 200 feet without needing a 10 minute break. Don't let that shit happen with your kids.
-JP; and I quit with you today my friend
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Well it's been a while and I thought I would post today. I got some serious thoughts going on.
I was over a Facebook, yeah I know strike 1, and my buddy posts a post about how worthless he is. Now keep in mind this man has a job, has kids he supports, and lives a daily life.
This got me thinking about my self. I am 42 years old, 385 pounds, broken down, bad back beyond repair, no job, cant help (or dont know how) support kids, sit on the PC all day hoping for the best. Worthless........ That is a word I never used with myself as prior to my back injury I always had a well paying job, medical insurance, a good vehicle and life was pointed in the right direction. Now ....... Worthless...... All I am is a burden on my wife and kids. Oh but I did quit dipping so that saved my wife $60 a month and I don't smoke ciggs or cigars.
I have read several posts here about people taking back their lives one day at a time and living life to it's fullest now that they quit dipping. They are truly quit. Am I just stopped? I am not living life to it's fullest. I am like a dry drunk. A drunk that got dry but never sober. Every day is a dry drunk.
Braves360 asked me a question earlier today. HE asked me was I ready to quit saying "I can't". My answer wasn't the one he was looking for and off he went. Why should he worry about me if I'm not worried about me right? I don't blame him a bit for skipping out on me. Here we go again ........ Worthless....... Notice my trend?
When is enough enough? When am I going to be sick and tired of being sick and tired? Only time shall tell.
Until next time folks, take care of your selves ... and each other. (Jerry Springer)
Hmmm! DJ my friend I'd be willing to bet your children love you and your not useless! What you can do to take your life back is quit feeling sorry for yourself.Get up and take your life back. One thing that definitely helps me is always knowing there's plenty people out there that's a helluva lot worse off than I am but they get up everyday and take charge of there life and say I can do this. By the way there's a lot of jobs you can do on PC. My brother not trying to bust your balls but sometimes someone has to kick us in our nuts! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Yeah you are right bud, the best thing I can do for now is get up off the damn pitty pot and get back to it.
I have looked in to several "Jobs" that you can work from home on the PC but I never know what is legit and what is a scam. Most of them all say send us 100$ to get started..... No..... Fuck that. If it is a legit job then they wont do that. I tried telemarketing from home and suffered panic attacks and couldn't do it. it got so bad I took a trip to the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.
I just wish I could get my back fixed so I can go back to work doing something, anything to help support the wife and kids. I am feeling a bit better now than when I posted this earlier. Not 100% but solid.
You want some ball bustin? Here goes.
Dude you are a classic addict. 385 lbs is full on food addict. Losing 150 lbs would probably fix a hell of a lot of your back problems and God know what else. A real addict, which you are, goes all in on everything that they do. Right now you are all in on feeling down. Refocus. Get "myfitnesspal" and start logging every calorie that you eat. Every one. Make a goal and stick to it each day on how many calories you will eat. Make an exercise plan - even if it is just walking down the street 2x each day. Log it too.
Shift your addiction to WINNING. life is to short to let it run you down. Get yourself under control and take your life back.
Sitting at home on the computer eating Cheetos isn't winning. You know how to win my friend. The choice is yours. You are such a kick ass quitter - you can do this dude.
Hey -
threw a shout to you over on facebook. Yea I know some will say why not here, but wanted to send it there for what I call "Making it more real" where you can see my face in pics, you can see my wife and family.
Anyway one point I made there is give it time. As you are quitting a day at a time, each day you make a positive impact on that front. You are letting your system heal from the years of poisoning. You are letting your brain re-adjust to the new chemistry. You are taking it slow in this marathon to re-write yourself.
So take that lesson to other parts of your life. Life is not a sprint or quick fix, it is a marathon. So maybe start with the weight loss. Go for a short, leisurely walk each day. Do it by yourself to enjoy the outdoors, the sights, smells. Do it with your wife/family to enjoy it together. But let it be the first step in beating the guy who just sits on the couch each day. Then as it gets better build on that. But like quitting, give it the proper time.
You will do it if you put your mind to it, I have no doubt about that.
yell if you should need.
There's some sound advice here. I know that I have turned a corner by hitting the sack either with or before my wife.
Now that I'm not waiting for everyone to hit the hay so I could dip freely. I would say maybe just start there. Get your internal clock back to a normal work
schedule. Bed early and Up early to get a walk in and plan the day ahead. Keep chin up dude. Quitting is a huge step in the right direction of good health. Both mental and
physical. Proud to quit with you today.
Agree with all this advice. I would especially encourage you to take W2W's advice about walking a couple times a day. Wake up in the morning, grab your cup of coffee, and head out and pound the pavement for a half hour. After dinner, take your wife on a romantic walk and show her some cool stuff you saw on your morning walk.
The bottom line is you have to change something if you want something to change.
That is sound advice for sure. Contrary to popular believe, my doctor had me walking 3 miles per day. I did that for a good while until my back happened. I woke up one morning and could all but not walk. The years of abuse had finally caught up to me. Also, I had fallen off the back end of a combine which didnt help. I had an MRI done and got a 8 page report on how bad my back really was. When my doctor talked with me about it she said ray do you know how bad this is and what all this report means? I was like well no. Im not a doctor. In her exact words were, you are in trouble.
When I fell off the combine I blew 3 discs in my back and my spine shifted a half inch. As the old term goes you are off your rocker, I am literally off my rocker by 1/2 inch. That is where that old term comes from..... Spinal stenosis.
Another little tid bit as well. When I eat, it is out of a 3 chamber plate. I wish I could include a pic. It only allows for so much and that is it and I only eat one plate. Now it was pointed out that I was a food addict..... Nice ....... I like it. That is reaching for straws when you dont know the whole story. Truth be know I eat less than most people. MY issue is I can't get up and move to work it off. plain and simple. I know ...... I used to be there too. Fat person means he or she eats so fucking much their grocery bill must bankrupt them. Most of the time that is true but not always. So PLEASE understand ones story before assuming the worst.
My Neuro surgeon said he will do surgery on my back to get me back up and walking again if I can loose 80 lb. Ok liquid diet and weight loss surgery it is. So went to talk to weight loss specialist and they wont do weight loss surgery until I can get up and walk at least 1 mile. Catch 22. I'm fucking stuck!!!!! Now what? So now I am walking on my tread mill and it fucks up on me. I talk to the manufacturer and their is a 300 lb weight limit. REAL FUCKING GOOD.
I am real close to just saying fuck it and giving up. BUT I won't!!! That is what most people think I am doing or am going to do. I will find a way one way or the other. I quit smoking 3 packs per day and I quit dipping. 2 of the hardest things to do. Now on to the rest of my life which I refuse to give up on.
Ray AKA DjPorkchop day 93 ODAAT EDD WUPP FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!
Ray, sounds like time to get creative... not sure if any of this is practical for you but might spark an idea that will work. Thinking out loud, walking is good because it exercises large muscle groups ... swimming would as well, but problematic in winter. Do they make something like a recumbent exercise bicycle? (Or the exercise resistance unit attached to one). Can you do lots of things like arm curls (it would take a shitload of reps, but it is active)? I'm thinking any sustained activity that lasted half an hour a couple times a day would be helpful.
You have your goals to break the catch 22. Somewhere is a way to reach them.
Wow Chop, that is some major life issues you are dealing with. But what i take from your attitude is you are bad ass, And have the attitude of a warrior. I'm proud of you, quit brother.
Ray a.k.a. Chop,
Want to share something with you man. Maybe this can provide some additional motivation, maybe not. Either way, your mention about your situation took me back to a dark place...
My father started taking a turn for the worse and allowing himself to become stagnant when I was maybe 5 or so. By the time I was playing 12 and under baseball he was too large to get out of his vehicle to watch me play ball. So he parked that fucking Ford Ranger alongside the 3rd base line and watched from inside the cab. In 7-8 years, he had gone from 6'2'' 195lbs to 6'2'' 390lbs.
He pretty much has maintained that shape until about 6 months ago when he finally decided to get his shit under control. From my vantage point, I have hated my father since I was a boy... and it was a hatred based on the fact that despite my young age, I knew his weight was something he could control, and chose not too. All of the shit that I missed out on requiring his participation was particularly painful as I had some friends whose fathers were never in the picture or had passed away prematurely. Mine, on the other hand, other than being grossly obese, what completely healthy.
My dad and I went to the World Series to watch our Rangers play not 5 years ago and he never made it out of the parking lot. I walked into the Ballpark by myself with an $800 premium ticket in my pocket, had some drinks at a bar inside the stadium, and ended up upgrading a guy I met that was sitting in the outfield upper deck. I was never so fucking angry in my entire life. I was angry to the point I gave away an $800 ticket just because I knew I had wasted my money on my father. For really the first time in my life, I was finally in a financial position to do something for him, rather than him for me, and his fat ass couldn't even enjoy it.
Now, I hear what you're saying about how you practice portion control, but it is physically impossible to wind up 350+ if you're following a strict diet. It's anatomically impossible. So, I urge you to re-evaluate that. Not calling you out, but I know a thing or two about what kind of caloric intake is required to maintain a certain weight with no other factors considered. Your Basal Metabolic Rate (look it up), is the bare minimum of calories your body needs to take in just to stay alive... think of it as how many calories you would need if you were strapped to a bed 24/7.
My father finally decided to take his life back, and with the help of a FitBit, MyFitnessPal to track his food, and a bare minimum of physical activity (walking), he has dropped 75 lbs in 5 months. He's at a point now where he no longer has to have a C-pap machine strapped to his face while sleeping because his weight is no-longer suffocating him. That means he's sleeping better, which in turn means he has more energy, which in turn means his metabolism isn't the gutter, which in turn means he's more active, which in turn means he's burning more calories per day.... you get the point.
Now I know your back is fucked up proper and I cannot imagine that pain that is causing you... but that pain is a way of your body screaming at you to give in some help. Your frame was never meant to support that amount of weight. Start small, ANYTHING. Re-evaluate your portions, and more importantly, what is making up those portions. Eating healthy, although generally more expensive than not, does not have to break your bank. I know you feel like you're against the wall and in a place where "fuck it what's the point? it's too late" seems reasonable... but if you do not attack your weight problem with the same vigor you quit the Nic Bitch, none of this will matter. 385, unless you're 6'8" and above, will kill you dead. Just as cancer or any other terminal illness.
Where there is a will... there is a fucking way. Imagine the pride your wife and children will have as they see you kick the shit out of this weight problem and start to take back your life. I guarantee you spinal issues will begin to fade as your internal structure no longer has to bear such a load.
If this came across as harsh, I apologize. Watching my father in this state for the past 25 years of my life has had a big time negative effect on our relationship. A lot of years slipped away because dad couldn't move more than 200 feet without needing a 10 minute break. Don't let that shit happen with your kids.
-JP; and I quit with you today my friend
I quit with you today DJ.
I'm the one that called you a food addict. That doesn't mean that you eat 3 dozen eggs and a slab of bacon for breakfast in my mind. Food regulates our hormones and determines how we feel. It is the ultimate drug, because we cannot quit cold turkey and just say NAFAR. I'm a food addict too. Every day I struggle with food. This one is damn hard dude.
Winning at this takes time and a whole different approach. A few things... Set a calorie goal that is aggressive and log everything in myfitnesspal that you eat. Make sure it is balanced with protein and carbs making up the bulk of your calories. You can do it.
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A couple of hours early...
Merry Christmas and congratulations on HALL OF FAME!
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A couple of hours early...
Merry Christmas and congratulations on HALL OF FAME!
Hard to believe that worktowin would beat me to posting here on your HOF day. LOL
Quitting with you has been an honor each and every day. Watching you evolve here convinced me that I could really do it too. I look forward to posting my name with yours tomorrow and every day going forward. B)B
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A couple of hours early...
Merry Christmas and congratulations on HALL OF FAME!
Hard to believe that worktowin would beat me to posting here on your HOF day. LOL
Quitting with you has been an honor each and every day. Watching you evolve here convinced me that I could really do it too. I look forward to posting my name with yours tomorrow and every day going forward. B)B
Merry Christmas and Congratulations on Hall of Fame Ray!
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A couple of hours early...
Merry Christmas and congratulations on HALL OF FAME!
Hard to believe that worktowin would beat me to posting here on your HOF day. LOL
Quitting with you has been an honor each and every day. Watching you evolve here convinced me that I could really do it too. I look forward to posting my name with yours tomorrow and every day going forward. B)B
Merry Christmas and Congratulations on Hall of Fame Ray!
Merry Christmas and Congrats big man!!!!! Proud to quit with you!!!
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A couple of hours early...
Merry Christmas and congratulations on HALL OF FAME!
Hard to believe that worktowin would beat me to posting here on your HOF day. LOL
Quitting with you has been an honor each and every day. Watching you evolve here convinced me that I could really do it too. I look forward to posting my name with yours tomorrow and every day going forward. B)B
Merry Christmas and Congratulations on Hall of Fame Ray!
Merry Christmas and Congrats big man!!!!! Proud to quit with you!!!
That's it! 200 my friend you can do anything if you want it bad enough! Damn proud of you!
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A couple of hours early...
Merry Christmas and congratulations on HALL OF FAME!
Hard to believe that worktowin would beat me to posting here on your HOF day. LOL
Quitting with you has been an honor each and every day. Watching you evolve here convinced me that I could really do it too. I look forward to posting my name with yours tomorrow and every day going forward. B)B
Merry Christmas and Congratulations on Hall of Fame Ray!
Merry Christmas and Congrats big man!!!!! Proud to quit with you!!!
That's it! 200 my friend you can do anything if you want it bad enough! Damn proud of you!
Chop!
So proud of you...i will be proud to quit with you daily.
Merry Christmas...dip free my friend!
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A couple of hours early...
Merry Christmas and congratulations on HALL OF FAME!
Hard to believe that worktowin would beat me to posting here on your HOF day. LOL
Quitting with you has been an honor each and every day. Watching you evolve here convinced me that I could really do it too. I look forward to posting my name with yours tomorrow and every day going forward. B)B
Merry Christmas and Congratulations on Hall of Fame Ray!
Merry Christmas and Congrats big man!!!!! Proud to quit with you!!!
That's it! 200 my friend you can do anything if you want it bad enough! Damn proud of you!
Chop!
So proud of you...i will be proud to quit with you daily.
Merry Christmas...dip free my friend!
Late to the party here; forgive me missing your HoF Chop; congrats man you earned it... cannot wait to join you. Happy New Year
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Wonderful HOF Speech Ray, keep on winning!
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Wonderful HOF Speech Ray, keep on winning!
Love your speech Chop. StrongAss quitterman. Miss ya my buddies.
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Happy birthday Chop!!
'Birthday'
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Happy birthday Chop!!
'Birthday'
Happy Belated Birthday
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Congrats on 300 Chop!
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Congrats on 300 Chop!
Congrats Ray! You are one of the best I have seen at paying it forward. I hope you continue to do so and thanks for all that you do. Onward to that first lap!!
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Holy shit have I missed a load of posts! WOW! Thanks for all the kind words over the last few months folks. I genuinely appreciate it from the bottom of my heart! If not for all you bad ass quitters, I am not sure where I would be today. You all rock! I am so glad I came back for the 2nd go around and have stuck with it. I love drinking the Kool-aid daily and pouring glass fulls for others around me.
And to all the assholes over the last 9 months or so that talked shit to me, thank you so much! I understand why. I truly appreciate it. And I MUST give a shout out to old Norm Jr. lol Remember him folks? He texted me every single day and told me good morning and to have a great day no matter what. I know he burnt bridges with loads of folks but he was cool with me.
Chicky, ..... yep! I don't have enough words. It's so hard I'll just say thanks for everything. You have personally helped me more than you will ever know.
Bottom line is, once again, YOU ALL ROCK!!!!! Thanks!
Ray -302 baby!!
P.S. I really wasn't ignoring all the other congrats posts. I went in to a slump for a while and never looked at this thread. Days are getting brighter now and Im pouring kool aid glasses again!
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Holy shit have I missed a load of posts! WOW! Thanks for all the kind words over the last few months folks. I genuinely appreciate it from the bottom of my heart! If not for all you bad ass quitters, I am not sure where I would be today. You all rock! I am so glad I came back for the 2nd go around and have stuck with it. I love drinking the Kool-aid daily and pouring glass fulls for others around me.
And to all the assholes over the last 9 months or so that talked shit to me, thank you so much! I understand why. I truly appreciate it. And I MUST give a shout out to old Norm Jr. lol Remember him folks? He texted me every single day and told me good morning and to have a great day no matter what. I know he burnt bridges with loads of folks but he was cool with me.
Chicky, ..... yep! I don't have enough words. It's so hard I'll just say thanks for everything. You have personally helped me more than you will ever know.
Bottom line is, once again, YOU ALL ROCK!!!!! Thanks!
Ray -302 baby!!
P.S. I really wasn't ignoring all the other congrats posts. I went in to a slump for a while and never looked at this thread. Days are getting brighter now and Im pouring kool aid glasses again!
Congrats on the 3rd floor DJ!!!
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Holy shit have I missed a load of posts! WOW! Thanks for all the kind words over the last few months folks. I genuinely appreciate it from the bottom of my heart! If not for all you bad ass quitters, I am not sure where I would be today. You all rock! I am so glad I came back for the 2nd go around and have stuck with it. I love drinking the Kool-aid daily and pouring glass fulls for others around me.
And to all the assholes over the last 9 months or so that talked shit to me, thank you so much! I understand why. I truly appreciate it. And I MUST give a shout out to old Norm Jr. lol Remember him folks? He texted me every single day and told me good morning and to have a great day no matter what. I know he burnt bridges with loads of folks but he was cool with me.
Chicky, ..... yep! I don't have enough words. It's so hard I'll just say thanks for everything. You have personally helped me more than you will ever know.
Bottom line is, once again, YOU ALL ROCK!!!!! Thanks!
Ray -302 baby!!
P.S. I really wasn't ignoring all the other congrats posts. I went in to a slump for a while and never looked at this thread. Days are getting brighter now and Im pouring kool aid glasses again!
Congrats on the 3rd floor DJ!!!
Congratulations my friend on the 3rd floor, keep going,fighting EDD it's your quit!
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Holy shit have I missed a load of posts! WOW! Thanks for all the kind words over the last few months folks. I genuinely appreciate it from the bottom of my heart! If not for all you bad ass quitters, I am not sure where I would be today. You all rock! I am so glad I came back for the 2nd go around and have stuck with it. I love drinking the Kool-aid daily and pouring glass fulls for others around me.
And to all the assholes over the last 9 months or so that talked shit to me, thank you so much! I understand why. I truly appreciate it. And I MUST give a shout out to old Norm Jr. lol Remember him folks? He texted me every single day and told me good morning and to have a great day no matter what. I know he burnt bridges with loads of folks but he was cool with me.
Chicky, ..... yep! I don't have enough words. It's so hard I'll just say thanks for everything. You have personally helped me more than you will ever know.
Bottom line is, once again, YOU ALL ROCK!!!!! Thanks!
Ray -302 baby!!
P.S. I really wasn't ignoring all the other congrats posts. I went in to a slump for a while and never looked at this thread. Days are getting brighter now and Im pouring kool aid glasses again!
Congrats on the 3rd floor DJ!!!
Thanks Tj! Gotta toss a BIG shoutout to my Decembros!! You guys are freaking awesome and some bad ass quitters!
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Holy shit have I missed a load of posts! WOW! Thanks for all the kind words over the last few months folks. I genuinely appreciate it from the bottom of my heart! If not for all you bad ass quitters, I am not sure where I would be today. You all rock! I am so glad I came back for the 2nd go around and have stuck with it. I love drinking the Kool-aid daily and pouring glass fulls for others around me.
And to all the assholes over the last 9 months or so that talked shit to me, thank you so much! I understand why. I truly appreciate it. And I MUST give a shout out to old Norm Jr. lol Remember him folks? He texted me every single day and told me good morning and to have a great day no matter what. I know he burnt bridges with loads of folks but he was cool with me.
Chicky, ..... yep! I don't have enough words. It's so hard I'll just say thanks for everything. You have personally helped me more than you will ever know.
Bottom line is, once again, YOU ALL ROCK!!!!! Thanks!
Ray -302 baby!!
P.S. I really wasn't ignoring all the other congrats posts. I went in to a slump for a while and never looked at this thread. Days are getting brighter now and Im pouring kool aid glasses again!
Congrats on the 3rd floor DJ!!!
Thanks Tj! Gotta toss a BIG shoutout to my Decembros!! You guys are freaking awesome and some bad ass quitters!
Way to be Bro. 300 bad ass days kicking ass and taking names. Proud to quit with you!
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Holy shit have I missed a load of posts! WOW! Thanks for all the kind words over the last few months folks. I genuinely appreciate it from the bottom of my heart! If not for all you bad ass quitters, I am not sure where I would be today. You all rock! I am so glad I came back for the 2nd go around and have stuck with it. I love drinking the Kool-aid daily and pouring glass fulls for others around me.
And to all the assholes over the last 9 months or so that talked shit to me, thank you so much! I understand why. I truly appreciate it. And I MUST give a shout out to old Norm Jr. lol Remember him folks? He texted me every single day and told me good morning and to have a great day no matter what. I know he burnt bridges with loads of folks but he was cool with me.
Chicky, ..... yep! I don't have enough words. It's so hard I'll just say thanks for everything. You have personally helped me more than you will ever know.
Bottom line is, once again, YOU ALL ROCK!!!!! Thanks!
Ray -302 baby!!
P.S. I really wasn't ignoring all the other congrats posts. I went in to a slump for a while and never looked at this thread. Days are getting brighter now and Im pouring kool aid glasses again!
Congrats on the 3rd floor DJ!!!
Thanks Tj! Gotta toss a BIG shoutout to my Decembros!! You guys are freaking awesome and some bad ass quitters!
Way to be Bro. 300 bad ass days kicking ass and taking names. Proud to quit with you!
Thanks J. I really appreciate it bud!
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So with all the cavers coming back and joining up in October 16, it got the wife and I talking today. Oh and sorry I'm redundant as I posted this all but very same post in another thread. I just wanted to keep track of it here as well for future reference.
A fella caved with over 700 days quit. My wife asked me in a sort of way I guess what a guy with that many days quit needed to be on a site for anyway and then proceeded to tell me how crazy I was for getting up every day and making sure before I do anything that I get my self on the internet and post a promise to folks whom I really don't know from adam.
This is rather odd feeling to me to have this chat with her as she is a practicing smoker. She has the addict mentality still. She simply does not understand. But I decide to give it a shot anyhow.
Basically I explained to her that I come here daily and make a promise to everyone in my quit group as well as all the supporters of my quit group. I FULLY intend on keeping that promise for today. I'm not worried about tomorrow as it is not here yet and I have no control over it and I could give two shits about yesterday as it is gone and I can't do it over. All I have is today and my word. I have been here 100% for 304 days now. I treasure that. And a few days I WOULD have forgot if not for some brothers in quit that text me or groupme and asked was all ok because I was missing on roll.
The day I miss roll, I am in big trouble. I am an addict. I know how addicts think. I know me REAL well. If I don't promise you and you don't hold me accountable, my mind starts to wander and that is not good. So there for I show up here daily. Crazy as my wife said? Hmmm.
Now the other side of the story. I come here daily to make sure my brothers of quit in December of 15 are on roll. if not I go looking. I do care! We have come way to far together for me to say fuck you guys and flash the deuces sign! no, not how I operate. These guys let me in the group after I came back from a 2014 cave and I promised them daily and they accepted me and held me accountable so i am here to hold them accountable as well. Crazy yet? Hmmm
The moral of my story is no, it is not crazy. I am here because I need to be. I am here because others need me to be. I am hard and firm in most of my posts and come off as a dick. I hate to sound that way but it works. As I have told others recently, I would rather you hate me for the rest of your life, than to love me until the day you die of cancer or nicotine related illness. I get PM's often thanking me for being so up front and honest and keeping folks in check. That kind of makes me feel all fuzzy inside to be honest. I get a buzz from it. I am here every day so I know at the end of the day, I will make it nic free due a promise I made. Without accountability I am nothing. I have and will fail. I have done it all my life, why would now be any different.
So thanks to my Decembros 15 for allowing me to be part of the group and post my promise to them daily. These guys are my lifeline to freedom. And everyone else who has ever posted support for me or sent me a PM offering numbers and support, thank you very much!
I have rambled long enough so I will shut up now. Take care everyone and stay quit EDD!!! QLAMF boys and girls!!
Ray
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So with all the cavers coming back and joining up in October 16, it got the wife and I talking today. Oh and sorry I'm redundant as I posted this all but very same post in another thread. I just wanted to keep track of it here as well for future reference.
A fella caved with over 700 days quit. My wife asked me in a sort of way I guess what a guy with that many days quit needed to be on a site for anyway and then proceeded to tell me how crazy I was for getting up every day and making sure before I do anything that I get my self on the internet and post a promise to folks whom I really don't know from adam.
This is rather odd feeling to me to have this chat with her as she is a practicing smoker. She has the addict mentality still. She simply does not understand. But I decide to give it a shot anyhow.
Basically I explained to her that I come here daily and make a promise to everyone in my quit group as well as all the supporters of my quit group. I FULLY intend on keeping that promise for today. I'm not worried about tomorrow as it is not here yet and I have no control over it and I could give two shits about yesterday as it is gone and I can't do it over. All I have is today and my word. I have been here 100% for 304 days now. I treasure that. And a few days I WOULD have forgot if not for some brothers in quit that text me or groupme and asked was all ok because I was missing on roll.
The day I miss roll, I am in big trouble. I am an addict. I know how addicts think. I know me REAL well. If I don't promise you and you don't hold me accountable, my mind starts to wander and that is not good. So there for I show up here daily. Crazy as my wife said? Hmmm.
Now the other side of the story. I come here daily to make sure my brothers of quit in December of 15 are on roll. if not I go looking. I do care! We have come way to far together for me to say fuck you guys and flash the deuces sign! no, not how I operate. These guys let me in the group after I came back from a 2014 cave and I promised them daily and they accepted me and held me accountable so i am here to hold them accountable as well. Crazy yet? Hmmm
The moral of my story is no, it is not crazy. I am here because I need to be. I am here because others need me to be. I am hard and firm in most of my posts and come off as a dick. I hate to sound that way but it works. As I have told others recently, I would rather you hate me for the rest of your life, than to love me until the day you die of cancer or nicotine related illness. I get PM's often thanking me for being so up front and honest and keeping folks in check. That kind of makes me feel all fuzzy inside to be honest. I get a buzz from it. I am here every day so I know at the end of the day, I will make it nic free due a promise I made. Without accountability I am nothing. I have and will fail. I have done it all my life, why would now be any different.
So thanks to my Decembros 15 for allowing me to be part of the group and post my promise to them daily. These guys are my lifeline to freedom. And everyone else who has ever posted support for me or sent me a PM offering numbers and support, thank you very much!
I have rambled long enough so I will shut up now. Take care everyone and stay quit EDD!!! QLAMF boys and girls!!
Ray
This is a bad ass post DJ. You get it.
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Hey Ray - just wanted to tag your intro for a second to thank you for the outstanding job you are doing on the Intros. You've been posting some insane good shit in these parts lately - I mean the kind of stuff that newbies and old dudes alike can really benefit from, and grow from. Thanks for all of your efforts - you are saying good stuff in a way that makes a lot of sense.
Props for all that you do!
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Hey Ray - just wanted to tag your intro for a second to thank you for the outstanding job you are doing on the Intros. You've been posting some insane good shit in these parts lately - I mean the kind of stuff that newbies and old dudes alike can really benefit from, and grow from. Thanks for all of your efforts - you are saying good stuff in a way that makes a lot of sense.
Props for all that you do!
Hi Worktowin
Thanks for the kind words. I truly do appreciate it.
Essentially what is up is I got kind of complacent there for a bit. I was posting daily (and still a 100% poster) and doing my thing with Stranger as Feb FUCKERS Conductors and that was it. I had thoughts racing one day and immediately recognized it as stinking thinking (addict thoughts). I have come way to far to give in and MANY people here have free gave to me and invested loads of time in my quit. I can not let anyone down, especially my self.
I went to the intros and started posting because these new guys coming in remind me of where I once was and a place I wish not to be ever again. Feeling alone, scared, foggy, and out right shitty fighting the craves not even day by day. it was minute by minute.
In all of this, I simply am trying to give back what was so freely given to me. I know I have pissed some guys off as my inbox indicates, but they are still here and quit. That is fine by me and exactly what I was after. If they hate me, so be it as long as they are quit. 'Finger' big tobacco and every thing they stand for. And if I say anything at all that helps an old timer here, it humbles me very quickly. I read stories and comments from the old timers (vets ) here and think dang! That is great wisdom! I want that!! Look at that day count!! That is bad ass!! etc etc.
I may slack from day to day here and there, but for the most part, I am going to try and continue on with intros as long as my keyboard has a key stroke left in it.
Take care man and thanks again for the kind words. I truly do appreciate it!
Ray - 308
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I posted a post in October 16 to try and get a little chat going. it failed miserably as no one would post. lol Imagine that BUT what it was was good material.
I often heard folks say to NOT post at night and only in the morning after you wake up...or when ever it is you wake up to start your day, NOT before bed.
So I asked how many folks post after roll is flipped and if so, why. No responses so I replied to my own post, still not takers. here is my post. It is worthy of a quick read. Might be a shade funny but has some valuable info.
No one? Really? C'mon guys..... 'Crazy'
I know one guy who does it. he was the first on on todays quit list.
I am guilty as well. I have done it in the past. What did it do for me? Well it caused major stress and injured dog, pissed off wife, amongst a slew of other stuff.
Why did I do it? I am a late to bed late to rise guy. Sometimes I don't get up until 12 or so and by 1 my phone was going off left and right wanting to know where I was and was I ok. Ah hah!!! I'll be a wise guy and post the night before! That sure solved the phone issues. What damage or other did it do? 'bang head'
Well, I recall once that I did this, I got up that day and minded my own business. Did my thing. Got along with the day. Was outside in the garage when suddenly a crave hit me out of no where. OH SHIT!!! FUck I need to hit the website and do some reading. WAIT!!! FUCK I DIDNT POST ROLL TODAY!!!! So I take off running, get in the house to meet the dog half way, trip over her sending her little ass clean across the room yelping at the top of her lungs because my big ass just steam rolled her AND in the process of that happening, my left knee blows out on me like when my ACL tore and now I am on the ground rolling in severe pain, Wife trying to help me up to bed to check me, Im a VERY big boy so she can't get me up, pissed off at me because I just injured our dog that might now need to go to the vet, and while I am screaming in utter pain, I demand the laptop so I can post roll. Yeah by this time, that crave was a distant memory.
So I get the laptop hurry and log on, go to december 15 and there I am, RIGHT on top of the list! FUCK! All this for nothing. So what did I get out of posting the night before?
1. An injured knee that cost me a $35 deductible at the dr, X-rays at the hospital and the accompanying bill that my insurance won't cover part, a scheduled MRI that I have to pay no less than 40% of out of pocket, a REALLY pissed off wife, and a almost $100 bill at the vet for a dog that I inadvertently kicked in the process of my escapades.
But hey, I was on roll! AND my phone didn't blow up. Life is good!
Smh!!! Lesson learned and a very important one. WUPP EDD!!! Not the night before! Start the day out fresh thinking about your promise you just made to stay quit for today. Don't make it last night and sleep on it. Trust me!
So now that you all know how big of a fuck head I was / am, care to share now?
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I mentioned the word complacent in my roll post today and then made a post. Well I decided to copy and paste the post here so I didn't forget about it. Also I can come back later and revisit the situation and see if anything has changed.
I mentioned complacency in my post. I could have swore just a week or two ago i was in live chat talking about November 16 getting ready to open. So last night i was in live chat anad someone mentions heading over to December 16 and giving them support. Wait!!! WHAT?????? Hell November just opened you moron! WRONG!!! I went over and looked and sure enough.
Is that complacency on my behalf and forgetting about the site and not supporting or is it just busy life? I know I been busy building and designing websites for clients but I didn't think I was that busy. Kinda makes me feel like shit to be honest. here we have new groups that need all the support they can get and basically I have turned my self in to a ghost poster the last month ... Well couple months I guess.
How does one find the time to balance out the act? It seems as though when I am on site, I don't leave the site. When I'm not on site, man I am REALLY not on site. I struggle to find a balance. I have to live life, but also can not loose track of what has got me the freedom i am enjoying today.
Hmmmm. Am I at a new place in my quit or just thinking way to hard about it? Fellas, that literally shook me up I lost that much track of time on site. I felt like shit.
Anyone else ever hit this point?
Quote comes live to you today via December 15 Disciples Of Quit Thread.
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I mentioned the word complacent in my roll post today and then made a post. Well I decided to copy and paste the post here so I didn't forget about it. Also I can come back later and revisit the situation and see if anything has changed.
I mentioned complacency in my post. I could have swore just a week or two ago i was in live chat talking about November 16 getting ready to open. So last night i was in live chat anad someone mentions heading over to December 16 and giving them support. Wait!!! WHAT?????? Hell November just opened you moron! WRONG!!! I went over and looked and sure enough.
Is that complacency on my behalf and forgetting about the site and not supporting or is it just busy life? I know I been busy building and designing websites for clients but I didn't think I was that busy. Kinda makes me feel like shit to be honest. here we have new groups that need all the support they can get and basically I have turned my self in to a ghost poster the last month ... Well couple months I guess.
How does one find the time to balance out the act? It seems as though when I am on site, I don't leave the site. When I'm not on site, man I am REALLY not on site. I struggle to find a balance. I have to live life, but also can not loose track of what has got me the freedom i am enjoying today.
Hmmmm. Am I at a new place in my quit or just thinking way to hard about it? Fellas, that literally shook me up I lost that much track of time on site. I felt like shit.
Anyone else ever hit this point?
Quote comes live to you today via December 15 Disciples Of Quit Thread.
Ray, I hope you know that you really help my quit a lot. I admit, I was a doubter about you when you first showed up in December - I didn't think you'd make it to the next day let alone quit with me every day for almost a year. You are a true BAQ here! :)
I try to balance things here myself and it helps to prioritize.
1) I make sure I post roll first
2) Post roll with the other BAQs who are in my quit web
3) Check out the introductions and post when I think I might have something useful to say that will help that quitter
4) Check out Group Me - still new for me. :P
I'm not in Live Chat that often but I know that you are and I know that Live Chat brings a lot of new quitters into the forum and that is awesome.
All of those things together take up a lot of time. I make sure that I do #1 and usually #2. The rest I try to do when I have time.
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I mentioned the word complacent in my roll post today and then made a post. Well I decided to copy and paste the post here so I didn't forget about it. Also I can come back later and revisit the situation and see if anything has changed.
I mentioned complacency in my post. I could have swore just a week or two ago i was in live chat talking about November 16 getting ready to open. So last night i was in live chat anad someone mentions heading over to December 16 and giving them support. Wait!!! WHAT?????? Hell November just opened you moron! WRONG!!! I went over and looked and sure enough.
Is that complacency on my behalf and forgetting about the site and not supporting or is it just busy life? I know I been busy building and designing websites for clients but I didn't think I was that busy. Kinda makes me feel like shit to be honest. here we have new groups that need all the support they can get and basically I have turned my self in to a ghost poster the last month ... Well couple months I guess.
How does one find the time to balance out the act? It seems as though when I am on site, I don't leave the site. When I'm not on site, man I am REALLY not on site. I struggle to find a balance. I have to live life, but also can not loose track of what has got me the freedom i am enjoying today.
Hmmmm. Am I at a new place in my quit or just thinking way to hard about it? Fellas, that literally shook me up I lost that much track of time on site. I felt like shit.
Anyone else ever hit this point?
Quote comes live to you today via December 15 Disciples Of Quit Thread.
Ray, I hope you know that you really help my quit a lot. I admit, I was a doubter about you when you first showed up in December - I didn't think you'd make it to the next day let alone quit with me every day for almost a year. You are a true BAQ here! :)
I try to balance things here myself and it helps to prioritize.
1) I make sure I post roll first
2) Post roll with the other BAQs who are in my quit web
3) Check out the introductions and post when I think I might have something useful to say that will help that quitter
4) Check out Group Me - still new for me. :P
I'm not in Live Chat that often but I know that you are and I know that Live Chat brings a lot of new quitters into the forum and that is awesome.
All of those things together take up a lot of time. I make sure that I do #1 and usually #2. The rest I try to do when I have time.
You're one heck off a quitter. You've helped me.
I thank you for that and for helping new ones...
So glad you find the time to stay active here, Chop.
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Yeah Ray,
you posted some knowledge in my my intro... I think you found your calling.
Thank You
Smitty
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Congrats on 1 year quit, whether you celebrate it today or in 2 days, your a Badass CHOP. ??
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Congrats on 365 DJ!! You are a BAQ
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
thanks folks.
But it is with great sadness that I must report that I am out. It has been a slice. I'll catch you all sometime. I'm not sure where or when but I will catch you all on the flip side.
No, I have not caved nor do I plan to. I got ruled out and don't appreciate it. What is good for one should be good for the other but in my case it was not. No harm no foul, I just can't stick around and condone it.
You all rock!! Stay quit my friends!
Look me up on facebook if you wish to stay in touch. I'm Ray Browell. I think my friends button might be locked out. if so, send me a pm request and Ill reply and all that.
Love each and every one of you and thank you all for everything you have done for me and my quit. And chickdip, thank you for being you! You are an awesome person and I am so glad I got to meet you. take care of yourself girly!
Gotta run. take care all. I'm out. Duces!!
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
thanks folks.
But it is with great sadness that I must report that I am out. It has been a slice. I'll catch you all sometime. I'm not sure where or when but I will catch you all on the flip side.
No, I have not caved nor do I plan to. I got ruled out and don't appreciate it. What is good for one should be good for the other but in my case it was not. No harm no foul, I just can't stick around and condone it.
You all rock!! Stay quit my friends!
Look me up on facebook if you wish to stay in touch. I'm Ray Browell. I think my friends button might be locked out. if so, send me a pm request and Ill reply and all that.
Love each and every one of you and thank you all for everything you have done for me and my quit. And chickdip, thank you for being you! You are an awesome person and I am so glad I got to meet you. take care of yourself girly!
Gotta run. take care all. I'm out. Duces!!
No reason is good enough to leave.
It's your choice, but think of all the advice you've given others, then make that decision.
It doesn't compute.
I could have left. I didn't. If i didn't have this brotherhood of accountability, i could go but a tin, any time.....no one would know but me. That's why i stay. I want my quit. Badly.i know you do too.
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
thanks folks.
But it is with great sadness that I must report that I am out. It has been a slice. I'll catch you all sometime. I'm not sure where or when but I will catch you all on the flip side.
No, I have not caved nor do I plan to. I got ruled out and don't appreciate it. What is good for one should be good for the other but in my case it was not. No harm no foul, I just can't stick around and condone it.
You all rock!! Stay quit my friends!
Look me up on facebook if you wish to stay in touch. I'm Ray Browell. I think my friends button might be locked out. if so, send me a pm request and Ill reply and all that.
Love each and every one of you and thank you all for everything you have done for me and my quit. And chickdip, thank you for being you! You are an awesome person and I am so glad I got to meet you. take care of yourself girly!
Gotta run. take care all. I'm out. Duces!!
No reason is good enough to leave.
It's your choice, but think of all the advice you've given others, then make that decision.
It doesn't compute.
I could have left. I didn't. If i didn't have this brotherhood of accountability, i could go but a tin, any time.....no one would know but me. That's why i stay. I want my quit. Badly.i know you do too.
Don't let others rule your quit!
I almost let a complete idiot take my sanity and my quit from me.
You are stronger than that bro.
Im not gonna beg you, but i feel like kicking your ass.
Funks come and go , yes even after 1 year. And i know you have other things that you deal with, but the funks magnify those .
Think. Chill. Roll Up Daily, here.
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
thanks folks.
But it is with great sadness that I must report that I am out. It has been a slice. I'll catch you all sometime. I'm not sure where or when but I will catch you all on the flip side.
No, I have not caved nor do I plan to. I got ruled out and don't appreciate it. What is good for one should be good for the other but in my case it was not. No harm no foul, I just can't stick around and condone it.
You all rock!! Stay quit my friends!
Look me up on facebook if you wish to stay in touch. I'm Ray Browell. I think my friends button might be locked out. if so, send me a pm request and Ill reply and all that.
Love each and every one of you and thank you all for everything you have done for me and my quit. And chickdip, thank you for being you! You are an awesome person and I am so glad I got to meet you. take care of yourself girly!
Gotta run. take care all. I'm out. Duces!!
No reason is good enough to leave.
It's your choice, but think of all the advice you've given others, then make that decision.
It doesn't compute.
I could have left. I didn't. If i didn't have this brotherhood of accountability, i could go but a tin, any time.....no one would know but me. That's why i stay. I want my quit. Badly.i know you do too.
Don't let others rule your quit!
I almost let a complete idiot take my sanity and my quit from me.
You are stronger than that bro.
Im not gonna beg you, but i feel like kicking your ass.
Funks come and go , yes even after 1 year. And i know you have other things that you deal with, but the funks magnify those .
Think. Chill. Roll Up Daily, here.
Keep on keeping on my friend! Spread the quit knowledge. Proud to be quit with you!
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Good grief...
This is the Internet.
It's not "real" life.
Grow a pair and be bigger than this shit.
Be a real.boy...
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
thanks folks.
But it is with great sadness that I must report that I am out. It has been a slice. I'll catch you all sometime. I'm not sure where or when but I will catch you all on the flip side.
No, I have not caved nor do I plan to. I got ruled out and don't appreciate it. What is good for one should be good for the other but in my case it was not. No harm no foul, I just can't stick around and condone it.
You all rock!! Stay quit my friends!
Look me up on facebook if you wish to stay in touch. I'm Ray Browell. I think my friends button might be locked out. if so, send me a pm request and Ill reply and all that.
Love each and every one of you and thank you all for everything you have done for me and my quit. And chickdip, thank you for being you! You are an awesome person and I am so glad I got to meet you. take care of yourself girly!
Gotta run. take care all. I'm out. Duces!!
I think this is the lamest thing I have read on this forum. I never expected it from you Ray.
Think about this - you are leaving over the way we maintain a spreadsheet. Those formulas can be adjusted and all of those "m"s can be treated like "X"s. They probably should have been treated like that a long time ago.
I take extra time to pitch in and work on the SSOA but I am not great at spreadsheet formulas. At the end of every month I start freaking out because I can barely figure out how to add days for the next month. I do it because we should know who shows up every day and who doesn't show up every day. You posted a complete year and then missed a day. It happens and it is not the end of the world.
We are not perfect here. We are addicts trying to stay quit. Throwing accountability out the window is not going to help you stay quit.
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
thanks folks.
But it is with great sadness that I must report that I am out. It has been a slice. I'll catch you all sometime. I'm not sure where or when but I will catch you all on the flip side.
No, I have not caved nor do I plan to. I got ruled out and don't appreciate it. What is good for one should be good for the other but in my case it was not. No harm no foul, I just can't stick around and condone it.
You all rock!! Stay quit my friends!
Look me up on facebook if you wish to stay in touch. I'm Ray Browell. I think my friends button might be locked out. if so, send me a pm request and Ill reply and all that.
Love each and every one of you and thank you all for everything you have done for me and my quit. And chickdip, thank you for being you! You are an awesome person and I am so glad I got to meet you. take care of yourself girly!
Gotta run. take care all. I'm out. Duces!!
I think this is the lamest thing I have read on this forum. I never expected it from you Ray.
Think about this - you are leaving over the way we maintain a spreadsheet. Those formulas can be adjusted and all of those "m"s can be treated like "X"s. They probably should have been treated like that a long time ago.
I take extra time to pitch in and work on the SSOA but I am not great at spreadsheet formulas. At the end of every month I start freaking out because I can barely figure out how to add days for the next month. I do it because we should know who shows up every day and who doesn't show up every day. You posted a complete year and then missed a day. It happens and it is not the end of the world.
We are not perfect here. We are addicts trying to stay quit. Throwing accountability out the window is not going to help you stay quit.
Dude. Seriously. Your bailing because of a spread sheet issue. Come on man. We have tracked you a couple times for posting like you have tracked others. It's accountability. It's why this place
works. You know that. Get your ass on roll today. I expect you to post a 369 today. One year and leaving is a bad recipe. Look at the guys in Dec '16 posting day ones after 4 and 5 years. Let's go
get in Dec '15 and post roll!!!!
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
thanks folks.
But it is with great sadness that I must report that I am out. It has been a slice. I'll catch you all sometime. I'm not sure where or when but I will catch you all on the flip side.
No, I have not caved nor do I plan to. I got ruled out and don't appreciate it. What is good for one should be good for the other but in my case it was not. No harm no foul, I just can't stick around and condone it.
You all rock!! Stay quit my friends!
Look me up on facebook if you wish to stay in touch. I'm Ray Browell. I think my friends button might be locked out. if so, send me a pm request and Ill reply and all that.
Love each and every one of you and thank you all for everything you have done for me and my quit. And chickdip, thank you for being you! You are an awesome person and I am so glad I got to meet you. take care of yourself girly!
Gotta run. take care all. I'm out. Duces!!
I think this is the lamest thing I have read on this forum. I never expected it from you Ray.
Think about this - you are leaving over the way we maintain a spreadsheet. Those formulas can be adjusted and all of those "m"s can be treated like "X"s. They probably should have been treated like that a long time ago.
I take extra time to pitch in and work on the SSOA but I am not great at spreadsheet formulas. At the end of every month I start freaking out because I can barely figure out how to add days for the next month. I do it because we should know who shows up every day and who doesn't show up every day. You posted a complete year and then missed a day. It happens and it is not the end of the world.
We are not perfect here. We are addicts trying to stay quit. Throwing accountability out the window is not going to help you stay quit.
Dude. Seriously. Your bailing because of a spread sheet issue. Come on man. We have tracked you a couple times for posting like you have tracked others. It's accountability. It's why this place
works. You know that. Get your ass on roll today. I expect you to post a 369 today. One year and leaving is a bad recipe. Look at the guys in Dec '16 posting day ones after 4 and 5 years. Let's go
get in Dec '15 and post roll!!!!
Ray, I'm so glad to see you are staying. I'm in a text group with some BAQs, one of whom is Brettlees. Each of us has our own contributions to the group but Brett has really helped me by talking about healing and addict behavior. Ktc teaches us how to quit, no doubt about that. But quitting is just part of it. Frequently people replace nicotine with anger, booze, food, porn... Whatever... But true success comes about through healing.
I have tremendous respect for you, for TJ, bubba, my boy GB, for JGlav, for Stranger, for all of December.... I actually think you are one of the best groups on Ktc. But whatever happens, you do not let ANYTHING cause you to even consider or talk about abandoning your brothers. Nothing justifies that. Quitting is about you. Don't even consider talking about ditching relationships.
Pick up the tucking phone and hash it out man. Heal. You've quit, but there is more ahead. I know a year seems and sounds like a long time... But there is more healing ahead. I'm proud for you for seeing the error of your ways. Learn from this.
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Congrats on the year Ray! Good quit going on!
Damn proud to quit with you in Dec '15 brother. Keep takin' names and kicking the nic bitch's ass. Congrats on 1 year my friend!
WOW! I always knew that you would make it even when you didn't think you could! ;)
I'm proud to quit with you EDD Ray. Thanks for helping my quit!
Congratulations on a huge milestone sir!
Great quit DJ - great to see quitters like you who pave the way hit great milestones. Congratulations on winning every day for a year
Congratulations on the year buddy! Thanks for what you do here, I quit with you EDD!!
Great job on a year Ray
Congrats Ray! 1 year, man that's awesome!
Way to be DJ! You have fought as hard as anyone for this, Enjoy. You earned it brother. Well done. Keep going.
thanks folks.
But it is with great sadness that I must report that I am out. It has been a slice. I'll catch you all sometime. I'm not sure where or when but I will catch you all on the flip side.
No, I have not caved nor do I plan to. I got ruled out and don't appreciate it. What is good for one should be good for the other but in my case it was not. No harm no foul, I just can't stick around and condone it.
You all rock!! Stay quit my friends!
Look me up on facebook if you wish to stay in touch. I'm Ray Browell. I think my friends button might be locked out. if so, send me a pm request and Ill reply and all that.
Love each and every one of you and thank you all for everything you have done for me and my quit. And chickdip, thank you for being you! You are an awesome person and I am so glad I got to meet you. take care of yourself girly!
Gotta run. take care all. I'm out. Duces!!
I think this is the lamest thing I have read on this forum. I never expected it from you Ray.
Think about this - you are leaving over the way we maintain a spreadsheet. Those formulas can be adjusted and all of those "m"s can be treated like "X"s. They probably should have been treated like that a long time ago.
I take extra time to pitch in and work on the SSOA but I am not great at spreadsheet formulas. At the end of every month I start freaking out because I can barely figure out how to add days for the next month. I do it because we should know who shows up every day and who doesn't show up every day. You posted a complete year and then missed a day. It happens and it is not the end of the world.
We are not perfect here. We are addicts trying to stay quit. Throwing accountability out the window is not going to help you stay quit.
Dude. Seriously. Your bailing because of a spread sheet issue. Come on man. We have tracked you a couple times for posting like you have tracked others. It's accountability. It's why this place
works. You know that. Get your ass on roll today. I expect you to post a 369 today. One year and leaving is a bad recipe. Look at the guys in Dec '16 posting day ones after 4 and 5 years. Let's go
get in Dec '15 and post roll!!!!
Ray, I'm so glad to see you are staying. I'm in a text group with some BAQs, one of whom is Brettlees. Each of us has our own contributions to the group but Brett has really helped me by talking about healing and addict behavior. Ktc teaches us how to quit, no doubt about that. But quitting is just part of it. Frequently people replace nicotine with anger, booze, food, porn... Whatever... But true success comes about through healing.
I have tremendous respect for you, for TJ, bubba, my boy GB, for JGlav, for Stranger, for all of December.... I actually think you are one of the best groups on Ktc. But whatever happens, you do not let ANYTHING cause you to even consider or talk about abandoning your brothers. Nothing justifies that. Quitting is about you. Don't even consider talking about ditching relationships.
Pick up the tucking phone and hash it out man. Heal. You've quit, but there is more ahead. I know a year seems and sounds like a long time... But there is more healing ahead. I'm proud for you for seeing the error of your ways. Learn from this.
hmmm...I'm going to reserve any comment about the above transgression, because sometimes (as in this particular instance), I hoping my lack of comment speaks volumes about how I feel about what went down. And if you (DJ) are catching my drift, just know that I'm glad you ultimately made the right decision. This is life or death brother - and it will always be about that.
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Congrats on the 4th floor DJ you are a BAQ and I am glad you are one of my Decembros!!
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Congrats on the 4th floor DJ you are a BAQ and I am glad you are one of my Decembros!!
Congrats Ray. 400 days of beating back the nic bitch. It is an accomplishment so be proud.
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Congrats on the 4th floor DJ you are a BAQ and I am glad you are one of my Decembros!!
Congrats Ray. 400 days of beating back the nic bitch. It is an accomplishment so be proud.
Chop. Congrats on your 400 days?
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Congrats on the 4th floor DJ you are a BAQ and I am glad you are one of my Decembros!!
Congrats Ray. 400 days of beating back the nic bitch. It is an accomplishment so be proud.
Chop. Congrats on your 400 days?
Congrats on 400 Ray!
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Congrats on the 4th floor DJ you are a BAQ and I am glad you are one of my Decembros!!
Congrats Ray. 400 days of beating back the nic bitch. It is an accomplishment so be proud.
Chop. Congrats on your 400 days?
Congrats on 400 Ray!
Congratulations on the 400 my brother!
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late to the party..
Chop
congrats on your 500!!!
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late to the party..
Chop
congrats on your 500!!!
Awesome job DJ. Congrats on 500 bro! Great job taking back your life!
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late to the party..
Chop
congrats on your 500!!!
Awesome job DJ. Congrats on 500 bro! Great job taking back your life!
Attaboy DJ!! Fifth Flo!!!
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late to the party..
Chop
congrats on your 500!!!
Awesome job DJ. Congrats on 500 bro! Great job taking back your life!
Attaboy DJ!! Fifth Flo!!!
500 Ray, awesome!
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late to the party..
Chop
congrats on your 500!!!
Awesome job DJ. Congrats on 500 bro! Great job taking back your life!
Attaboy DJ!! Fifth Flo!!!
500 Ray, awesome!
I love seeing this thread bumped. I am glad that you are still here Ray and even more glad that you are still quit! Here's to another 500 days! 'Cheers'
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late to the party..
Chop
congrats on your 500!!!
Awesome job DJ. Congrats on 500 bro! Great job taking back your life!
Attaboy DJ!! Fifth Flo!!!
500 Ray, awesome!
I love seeing this thread bumped. I am glad that you are still here Ray and even more glad that you are still quit! Here's to another 500 days! 'Cheers'
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I'm really glad you stayed with us DJ! Congrats on your half comma. A well earned milestone. Keep going!
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'Birthday' Chop!!
IQWYT
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Hey Chop congrats on the comma!!