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People develop habits and living patterns that may go unnoticed. These patterns develop within our brains over years of practice and repetition. These patterns consist of three main parts that form a mental addiction or as I would like to call it, "Mental Games". The first is the trigger or cue. The second is the action itself, in our case the use of nicotine regardless of delivery type. The third part and final piece is a "reward" your body receives as a result of the habit. I feel like we need to understand this part of the mental addiction in order to continue to stay quit and reach our goals. We must consciously replace the habit with something else. This would allow for our mind to recognize positive triggers and positive "rewards". Physical addiction to nicotine last on the average for 72 hours. The physical withdrawal symptoms begin to lessen during this time. We are not physically addicted at this point and must re-wire our brains to replace our superficial "need" for nicotine.
I have used nicotine in some form since i played freshman football. My usage escalated when I turned 23. During the past ten years, I have dipped a full can of dip and between 5-10 cigs per day depending on how many beers I was crushing, work hours, etc. I used when I woke up, when i drove, after I ate, bathroom, sporting events, golf, yard work, drank booze, played cards (you get the picture). Recently however, I realized that I did not use nicotine around 1-2 hours before bed. This was usually the time I spent with the woman. Due to the fact that I never used during this time period, I looked forward to this time during the 3-present days of my quit. This was the ONLY time I did not think about dipping. Why did I not think about it during this time? My mind was not used to receiving nicotine during this time of the day for the past ten years. I began looking forward to this time of the day. I would be thinking about skoal every five seconds outside of this short period of time.
Fast forward to yesterday (day 8 lol)....I am standing in line at the store staring at the varieties of dip behind the counter. I begin to laugh out loud. The lady begins to look at me like "is this guy OK?". I was laughing because that nic bitch was not going to mind fuck me yesterday and it is not today either. I then looked down to see the Smokey Mountain. I was tempted to buy a can of the fake, but then I realized what I have been thinking about since my quit began. How can I break free of the mental addiction to dip when I am having fake dipping sessions after I eat and when I wake up? I'm not knocking people that use it, just not for me. Quite honestly, it scares the shit out of me.
I have one goal and one goal only during this quit. My goal is not to make the HOF, to make 200 days, 500 days, or a 1000 days. My goal is to use the tools, accountability, and brotherhood here on KTC to end the mental games that this drug plays with us after the first 3-4 days. I need the support of our members and friends to stay away from nicotine while I RETRAIN my mind ODAAT. After weeks, months, or years, my mind will adjust to chewing this Trident White after meals rather than using nicotine. I am not delusional. I know I will always be addicted to nicotine and their is no such thing as controlling it. But it will get easier, I am sure of it.
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People develop habits and living patterns that may go unnoticed. These patterns develop within our brains over years of practice and repetition. These patterns consist of three main parts that form a mental addiction or as I would like to call it, "Mental Games". The first is the trigger or cue. The second is the action itself, in our case the use of nicotine regardless of delivery type. The third part and final piece is a "reward" your body receives as a result of the habit. I feel like we need to understand this part of the mental addiction in order to continue to stay quit and reach our goals. We must consciously replace the habit with something else. This would allow for our mind to recognize positive triggers and positive "rewards". Physical addiction to nicotine last on the average for 72 hours. The physical withdrawal symptoms begin to lessen during this time. We are not physically addicted at this point and must re-wire our brains to replace our superficial "need" for nicotine.
I have used nicotine in some form since i played freshman football. My usage escalated when I turned 23. During the past ten years, I have dipped a full can of dip and between 5-10 cigs per day depending on how many beers I was crushing, work hours, etc. I used when I woke up, when i drove, after I ate, bathroom, sporting events, golf, yard work, drank booze, played cards (you get the picture). Recently however, I realized that I did not use nicotine around 1-2 hours before bed. This was usually the time I spent with the woman. Due to the fact that I never used during this time period, I looked forward to this time during the 3-present days of my quit. This was the ONLY time I did not think about dipping. Why did I not think about it during this time? My mind was not used to receiving nicotine during this time of the day for the past ten years. I began looking forward to this time of the day. I would be thinking about skoal every five seconds outside of this short period of time.
Fast forward to yesterday (day 8 lol)....I am standing in line at the store staring at the varieties of dip behind the counter. I begin to laugh out loud. The lady begins to look at me like "is this guy OK?". I was laughing because that nic bitch was not going to mind fuck me yesterday and it is not today either. I then looked down to see the Smokey Mountain. I was tempted to buy a can of the fake, but then I realized what I have been thinking about since my quit began. How can I break free of the mental addiction to dip when I am having fake dipping sessions after I eat and when I wake up? I'm not knocking people that use it, just not for me. Quite honestly, it scares the shit out of me.
I have one goal and one goal only during this quit. My goal is not to make the HOF, to make 200 days, 500 days, or a 1000 days. My goal is to use the tools, accountability, and brotherhood here on KTC to end the mental games that this drug plays with us after the first 3-4 days. I need the support of our members and friends to stay away from nicotine while I RETRAIN my mind ODAAT. After weeks, months, or years, my mind will adjust to chewing this Trident White after meals rather than using nicotine. I am not delusional. I know I will always be addicted to nicotine and their is no such thing as controlling it. But it will get easier, I am sure of it.
Well, I wanted to be the first to reply to your thread, because I feel like your a good bet man. Im putting my money on you, you are winning and are shaping up to be quite the quitter! Now I also need to put this on here so that you can hold me to it, yes the deal we made. So here it is again-
IF YOU :
1.) Post roll EDD 100% Posting
2.)Make it to 100 ( which I know you will )
3.) Sign up for 200
I will buy your KTC HOF Coin, you got my word, now I want you to keep yours EDD
Winter Green ;Ironman:
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People develop habits and living patterns that may go unnoticed. These patterns develop within our brains over years of practice and repetition. These patterns consist of three main parts that form a mental addiction or as I would like to call it, "Mental Games". The first is the trigger or cue. The second is the action itself, in our case the use of nicotine regardless of delivery type. The third part and final piece is a "reward" your body receives as a result of the habit. I feel like we need to understand this part of the mental addiction in order to continue to stay quit and reach our goals. We must consciously replace the habit with something else. This would allow for our mind to recognize positive triggers and positive "rewards". Physical addiction to nicotine last on the average for 72 hours. The physical withdrawal symptoms begin to lessen during this time. We are not physically addicted at this point and must re-wire our brains to replace our superficial "need" for nicotine.
I have used nicotine in some form since i played freshman football. My usage escalated when I turned 23. During the past ten years, I have dipped a full can of dip and between 5-10 cigs per day depending on how many beers I was crushing, work hours, etc. I used when I woke up, when i drove, after I ate, bathroom, sporting events, golf, yard work, drank booze, played cards (you get the picture). Recently however, I realized that I did not use nicotine around 1-2 hours before bed. This was usually the time I spent with the woman. Due to the fact that I never used during this time period, I looked forward to this time during the 3-present days of my quit. This was the ONLY time I did not think about dipping. Why did I not think about it during this time? My mind was not used to receiving nicotine during this time of the day for the past ten years. I began looking forward to this time of the day. I would be thinking about skoal every five seconds outside of this short period of time.
Fast forward to yesterday (day 8 lol)....I am standing in line at the store staring at the varieties of dip behind the counter. I begin to laugh out loud. The lady begins to look at me like "is this guy OK?". I was laughing because that nic bitch was not going to mind fuck me yesterday and it is not today either. I then looked down to see the Smokey Mountain. I was tempted to buy a can of the fake, but then I realized what I have been thinking about since my quit began. How can I break free of the mental addiction to dip when I am having fake dipping sessions after I eat and when I wake up? I'm not knocking people that use it, just not for me. Quite honestly, it scares the shit out of me. Â
I have one goal and one goal only during this quit. My goal is not to make the HOF, to make 200 days, 500 days, or a 1000 days. My goal is to use the tools, accountability, and brotherhood here on KTC to end the mental games that this drug plays with us after the first 3-4 days. I need the support of our members and friends to stay away from nicotine while I RETRAIN my mind ODAAT. After weeks, months, or years, my mind will adjust to chewing this Trident White after meals rather than using nicotine. I am not delusional. I know I will always be addicted to nicotine and their is no such thing as controlling it. But it will get easier, I am sure of it.
Well, I wanted to be the first to reply to your thread, because I feel like your a good bet man. Im putting my money on you, you are winning and are shaping up to be quite the quitter! Now I also need to put this on here so that you can hold me to it, yes the deal we made. So here it is again-
IF YOU :
1.) Post roll EDD 100% Posting
2.)Make it to 100 ( which I know you will )
3.) Sign up for 200
I will buy your KTC HOF Coin, you got my word, now I want you to keep yours EDD
Winter Green ;Ironman:
Well said, bro. It's gonna be awesome quitting with you every day.
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Were you in May 11 quit group? Is this your only intro thread? Paging Larry Drummer!
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We're you in May 11 quit group? Is this your only intro thread? Paging Larry Drummer!
no i wasnt.....i was in may 2011.....same name though
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You sound like a hell of a quitter. Keep that shit up.
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We're you in May 11 quit group? Is this your only intro thread? Paging Larry Drummer!
no i wasnt.....i was in may 2011.....same name though
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1) What happened?
2) Why did it happen?
3) What are you going to do differently this time?
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We're you in May 11 quit group? Is this your only intro thread? Paging Larry Drummer!
no i wasnt.....i was in may 2011.....same name though
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1) What happened?
2) Why did it happen?
3) What are you going to do differently this time?
I have posted up my answers and explanations.....I posted them in May 2011 and June 2014 prior to posting my day one roll call. I have learned from the causes of my previous cave and try to avoid them every day.
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From May 11:
hey people, ummmm....well looking at your days, i feel like an even bigger loser and caver. i joined and i was in your group in 2011. i made it 50 something days and caved. i dont really know what to do but didnt feel like it was appropriate to just post roll. reasons for cave: it was a long time ago but i remember when it happened like it was yesterday. i was golfing and was urging bad. i had the smokey mountain but kept thinking "this s**T sucks!!" and kept making excuses in my head that were saying "its ok. its just one dip" and "you can control it this time" and the worst one was "your more addicted to this than all those people". people obviously referring to those i made friends with on this page. well needless to say i put a pinch in. it sucked. i wished i never did it. and the obvious one was, i could not control it.......obvious lies and excuses that i have made many times before. well here i am, 3 years later, dipping over a tin a day and half a pack of butts when i cant dip. im looking at these names thinking about how i not only let them down, but that could be me if i weren't such an excuse maker. things i didnt do: the way to not make the same mistake again will be to use the tools available. even though i made friends on here, i never bought into the whole calling or messaging people when i was hurting. i think it made me feel vulnerable or maybe it was because i am just someone that hates asking people for help. i dont know. i dont want to be a slave anymore, but i have caved so many times before. can i really do this? im 33 and have been dipping since i was 18. im tired of this bulls**t!!! what do i do now?
I hate seeing someone crawl back after caving but I hate a 1000X worse the hundreds of those that lacked the balls to follow through on their quit or come back after caving. For those newbies reading this, this is a reason that we are tough at times. We know that quitting isn't a walk in the park.
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You can solve all the problems by posting roll EVERY DAMN DAY, keeping your promise for that 24 hours, wake up and repeat. Do NOT plan for the next day, next week, or longer. Around here we take it one day at a time.....we worry about tomorrow when it comes. It gets easier as the days add up, and it's wonderful to be free, but you will always be an addict. If you stop following these simple principles, your rate of failure goes way up. I'll quit with you today
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I went 180 days and caved out from March 2012. Stopped posting after 115 days and figured I was cured. Came back dragging ass June 5, 2013. You will see that June 2014 is where you should be anyway. Thats your family. Don't look back at 2011 anymore. Get to know June 2014 they will save your life.
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Sixer,
Takes some big balls to come back in here and for that I give you props. From reading your intro I believe the light finally switched on and that is the beacon stating: ADDICT-ADDICT-ADDICT. Prior to finding KTC myself, I never thought about my Copenhagen use for 20+ years as an addiction. Duh it was obviously an addiction but try telling an addict that! After I found KTC and started reading the site and drinking the koolaid the light went on for me as well. I then took the advice of the long time quitters in here that most of us need to remain a KTC contributor long term to have success, so here I am only a 113 days into my quit still posting roll and trying to contribute. Even if my contributions don't amount to much...'flush' ....I don't fear the Nic Bitch anymore though because I have my toolbox (KTC) to beat her down now, so I can't leave here because then I lose the toolbox. Welcome back and I quit with you today.
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6r,
Don't think you need to dwell on the cave, just learn from it and go on. What matters is that you quit today and EDD!
As a wise oldtimer told me, we are all $5 and one dip away from day 1.
You are no different than any of us here. You and I are addicts. You acted like an addict and that is why it is important to be accountable.
I am sending you my digits and before you cave again, you have to ask my permission, which will never be granted.
QLF!
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The addiction seems to sense tiny openings of vulnerability and does its best to exploit it.
Has anyone noticed how few people had a nicotine habit while we are using? I remember the feeling of loneliness that nicotine gave me when i was standing out in the rain smoking a cigarette or leaving a conversation because I had to spit and I couldn't hold it anymore. Today, I have nicotine radar. I am like the security detector at the airport that is used by TSA. I can sense someone smoking from a mile away. I could have eyes like Stevie Wonder and know Jason Dufner (pro golfer) had a dip in when I was watching this Sunday. Seems like everyone either smokes or dips. Now during suck times, I say to myself, "Wow, everyone uses nicotine. What is the big deal?"
I am doing some info searching on the web today. I am attempted to solidify my quit. I come across an article. In the comments section, some hating ass troll piece of shit is downplaying the cause of cancer by smokeless tobacco. I begin reading more information. I think my mind sensed another moment of vulnerability. I continue to pursue information that would allow for the piece of shit troll's argument to hold water. One of the articles states that "smokeless tobacco doubles your chances of getting cancer". My addicted ass is thinking, "Whoa, only doubles? that is not so bad." I immediately grounded myself. I wrote down reasons for my quit. Dying is undeniably the number one reason. I hop into chat and begin talking to my new quitting friends. I asked them to answer one question with one answer. The question was "why are you quit?". The answers I received helped me get out of my funk. I too want to go my daughters wedding. I would also like to not be a slave, be a better family member, and be able to do something else when im older lol. I quit today with all of you quitters. Thank you.
(I hope you dont think this is super corny lol. It helps me out a lot. I guess I could write it down and keep it to myself but screw it.)
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The addiction seems to sense tiny openings of vulnerability and does its best to exploit it.
Has anyone noticed how few people had a nicotine habit while we are using? I remember the feeling of loneliness that nicotine gave me when i was standing out in the rain smoking a cigarette or leaving a conversation because I had to spit and I couldn't hold it anymore. Today, I have nicotine radar. I am like the security detector at the airport that is used by TSA. I can sense someone smoking from a mile away. I could have eyes like Stevie Wonder and know Jason Dufner (pro golfer) had a dip in when I was watching this Sunday. Seems like everyone either smokes or dips. Now during suck times, I say to myself, "Wow, everyone uses nicotine. What is the big deal?"
I am doing some info searching on the web today. I am attempted to solidify my quit. I come across an article. In the comments section, some hating ass troll piece of shit is downplaying the cause of cancer by smokeless tobacco. I begin reading more information. I think my mind sensed another moment of vulnerability. I continue to pursue information that would allow for the piece of shit troll's argument to hold water. One of the articles states that "smokeless tobacco doubles your chances of getting cancer". My addicted ass is thinking, "Whoa, only doubles? that is not so bad." I immediately grounded myself. I wrote down reasons for my quit. Dying is undeniably the number one reason. I hop into chat and begin talking to my new quitting friends. I asked them to answer one question with one answer. The question was "why are you quit?". The answers I received helped me get out of my funk. I too want to go my daughters wedding. I would also like to not be a slave, be a better family member, and be able to do something else when im older lol. I quit today with all of you quitters. Thank you.
(I hope you dont think this is super corny lol. It helps me out a lot. I guess I could write it down and keep it to myself but screw it.)
This is also your journal to record your thought abourt your quit. Nothing corny. Just reality at its finest.
keep up the good work.
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The addiction seems to sense tiny openings of vulnerability and does its best to exploit it.
Has anyone noticed how few people had a nicotine habit while we are using? I remember the feeling of loneliness that nicotine gave me when i was standing out in the rain smoking a cigarette or leaving a conversation because I had to spit and I couldn't hold it anymore. Today, I have nicotine radar. I am like the security detector at the airport that is used by TSA. I can sense someone smoking from a mile away. I could have eyes like Stevie Wonder and know Jason Dufner (pro golfer) had a dip in when I was watching this Sunday. Seems like everyone either smokes or dips. Now during suck times, I say to myself, "Wow, everyone uses nicotine. What is the big deal?"
I am doing some info searching on the web today. I am attempted to solidify my quit. I come across an article. In the comments section, some hating ass troll piece of shit is downplaying the cause of cancer by smokeless tobacco. I begin reading more information. I think my mind sensed another moment of vulnerability. I continue to pursue information that would allow for the piece of shit troll's argument to hold water. One of the articles states that "smokeless tobacco doubles your chances of getting cancer". My addicted ass is thinking, "Whoa, only doubles? that is not so bad." I immediately grounded myself. I wrote down reasons for my quit. Dying is undeniably the number one reason. I hop into chat and begin talking to my new quitting friends. I asked them to answer one question with one answer. The question was "why are you quit?". The answers I received helped me get out of my funk. I too want to go my daughters wedding. I would also like to not be a slave, be a better family member, and be able to do something else when im older lol. I quit today with all of you quitters. Thank you.
(I hope you dont think this is super corny lol. It helps me out a lot. I guess I could write it down and keep it to myself but screw it.)
This is also your journal to record your thought abourt your quit. Nothing corny. Just reality at its finest.
keep up the good work.
I record in my Intro page daily what I am feeling. Nothing corny about it. It's good to have to look back on and see where you have been. Keep on quitting.
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The addiction seems to sense tiny openings of vulnerability and does its best to exploit it.
Has anyone noticed how few people had a nicotine habit while we are using? I remember the feeling of loneliness that nicotine gave me when i was standing out in the rain smoking a cigarette or leaving a conversation because I had to spit and I couldn't hold it anymore. Today, I have nicotine radar. I am like the security detector at the airport that is used by TSA. I can sense someone smoking from a mile away. I could have eyes like Stevie Wonder and know Jason Dufner (pro golfer) had a dip in when I was watching this Sunday. Seems like everyone either smokes or dips. Now during suck times, I say to myself, "Wow, everyone uses nicotine. What is the big deal?"
I am doing some info searching on the web today. I am attempted to solidify my quit. I come across an article. In the comments section, some hating ass troll piece of shit is downplaying the cause of cancer by smokeless tobacco. I begin reading more information. I think my mind sensed another moment of vulnerability. I continue to pursue information that would allow for the piece of shit troll's argument to hold water. One of the articles states that "smokeless tobacco doubles your chances of getting cancer". My addicted ass is thinking, "Whoa, only doubles? that is not so bad." I immediately grounded myself. I wrote down reasons for my quit. Dying is undeniably the number one reason. I hop into chat and begin talking to my new quitting friends. I asked them to answer one question with one answer. The question was "why are you quit?". The answers I received helped me get out of my funk. I too want to go my daughters wedding. I would also like to not be a slave, be a better family member, and be able to do something else when im older lol. I quit today with all of you quitters. Thank you.
(I hope you dont think this is super corny lol. It helps me out a lot. I guess I could write it down and keep it to myself but screw it.)
This is also your journal to record your thought abourt your quit. Nothing corny. Just reality at its finest.
keep up the good work.
I record in my Intro page daily what I am feeling. Nothing corny about it. It's good to have to look back on and see where you have been. Keep on quitting.
I think it's a good idea to post what you're feeling and going through with your quit. I've been doing it on my intro page, too. Seems to help keep my sane by typing it out and getting feedback/support from the guys in here.
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The addiction seems to sense tiny openings of vulnerability and does its best to exploit it.
Has anyone noticed how few people had a nicotine habit while we are using? I remember the feeling of loneliness that nicotine gave me when i was standing out in the rain smoking a cigarette or leaving a conversation because I had to spit and I couldn't hold it anymore. Today, I have nicotine radar. I am like the security detector at the airport that is used by TSA. I can sense someone smoking from a mile away. I could have eyes like Stevie Wonder and know Jason Dufner (pro golfer) had a dip in when I was watching this Sunday. Seems like everyone either smokes or dips. Now during suck times, I say to myself, "Wow, everyone uses nicotine. What is the big deal?"
I am doing some info searching on the web today. I am attempted to solidify my quit. I come across an article. In the comments section, some hating ass troll piece of shit is downplaying the cause of cancer by smokeless tobacco. I begin reading more information. I think my mind sensed another moment of vulnerability. I continue to pursue information that would allow for the piece of shit troll's argument to hold water. One of the articles states that "smokeless tobacco doubles your chances of getting cancer". My addicted ass is thinking, "Whoa, only doubles? that is not so bad." I immediately grounded myself. I wrote down reasons for my quit. Dying is undeniably the number one reason. I hop into chat and begin talking to my new quitting friends. I asked them to answer one question with one answer. The question was "why are you quit?". The answers I received helped me get out of my funk. I too want to go my daughters wedding. I would also like to not be a slave, be a better family member, and be able to do something else when im older lol. I quit today with all of you quitters. Thank you.
(I hope you dont think this is super corny lol. It helps me out a lot. I guess I could write it down and keep it to myself but screw it.)
Not corny at all my friend. If it helps you stay quit...do it in spades. If you keep it to yourself, it loses some of its power and can't help someone else. Proud to be quit with you.
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Each quitter must identify the personal reasons of why the quit for themselves. Each will have differing reasons but make sure yours in 100% about you. Not based on fear or for someone else's appeasement. Once you have pinpointed those foundation reasons, start building the walls of your quit. Good to see you in chat yesterday trying to flesh out the quit process and to see you personalizing your quit. The more you engage with other quitters and pull from their strength the stronger your quit becomes and then you will find your quit zone. Finding that sweet spot after the fog is reassuring but don't be fooled that you have this whipped! We are addicts and are one dumb-ass decision away from being slaves again.
Keep learning how to identify the potential pitfalls, temptations and triggers. Steer clear of these or use the buddy system to help you protect your quit.
It is your quit to protect so OWN IT!
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Hey Sixer (and apologies if the quote transfer is messed up, I suck at this),
I am guessing more guys will post up and respond to this in the morning when they see it, many with far more consulting experience than I have. But figured I would toss in my two cents. First, I am sure you feel like shit, so one positive to focus on is that you are back here and facing the music. Hats off for that. Second, I don't have much experience in this realm, but more seasoned vets seem to ask people that cave what will be different this time? Surely you can't just stop playing golf, and even if you did, she will always be around and looming in the corner. Absolutely using the tools provided by the site will help and definitely having someone's number handy will too, but most of it will come down to you. Like you mention, it is scary as hell to be vulnerable in thinking that this little can of killer-dirt is bigger and stronger than you, that you are a slave to your addiction. I think that is something everyone eventually realizes and is key to strengthening your quit. Of course, after this many days the quit walls are strong, but speaking for myself, I feel just as vulnerable as I did Day 1. To be perfectly honest, I am not sure how, but I strongly believe that if I touch nicotine again I will immediately begin a slow, painful death.
I wish I had some secret answer to your "what do I do know" question, but I don't, because it isn't a secret. It is chanted over and over again here because it works, quit.post.keep your word.repeat. That being said, it all starts with you making the decision that you can't do this ever again, for any reason. You are an addict and it will destroy you and everyone you love. So, in closing, what do you do now? You quit now.
Freedom is an amazing thing and hope to see you posting up day 1,
Maineguy
sixercountry
hey people,
ummmm....well looking at your days, i feel like an even bigger loser and caver. i joined and i was in your group in 2011. i made it 50 something days and caved. i dont really know what to do but didnt feel like it was appropriate to just post roll.
reasons for cave: it was a long time ago but i remember when it happened like it was yesterday. i was golfing and was urging bad. i had the smokey mountain but kept thinking "this s**T sucks!!" and kept making excuses in my head that were saying "its ok. its just one dip" and "you can control it this time" and the worst one was "your more addicted to this than all those people". people obviously referring to those i made friends with on this page. well needless to say i put a pinch in. it sucked. i wished i never did it. and the obvious one was, i could not control it.......obvious lies and excuses that i have made many times before. well here i am, 3 years later, dipping over a tin a day and half a pack of butts when i cant dip. im looking at these names thinking about how i not only let them down, but that could be me if i weren't such an excuse maker.
things i didnt do: the way to not make the same mistake again will be to use the tools available. even though i made friends on here, i never bought into the whole calling or messaging people when i was hurting. i think it made me feel vulnerable or maybe it was because i am just someone that hates asking people for help. i dont know.
i dont want to be a slave anymore, but i have caved so many times before. can i really do this? im 33 and have been dipping since i was 18. im tired of this bulls**t!!!
what do i do now?
Sixer, if you're really that tired of it this is what you do. First thing in the morning YOU gotta post up. You gotta realize that is a conscious promise you are making to a group of dudes doing the same thing you are. All day, simply keep your promise. Then repeat.
It starts with you dude.
Sixer, Quitters find a way to quit, cavers find a way to cave. If you are truly tired of the life of an addict, you will be a quitter. Not to be a jerk, but until your word means more than your addiction, you will not succeed.
The roll post is not negotiable. A roll post means you are QUIT for that day, no matter what. No urge, no crave, no fog is going to cause you to cave because you made a promise. This group and your new quit group can help, but you have to bring the balls and the integrity.
Decision Time, my friend. Pick a life- Quit or Not Quit. We chose quit. What will you choose?
Not much I can really add to this, except the following - this site has saved my life. Based on conversations I have had with other quitters it has done the same for them. The number one thing you must do is look in the mirror and honestly tell yourself the following:
1) I AM an addict.
2) I will ALWAYS be an addict.
3) I will NOT be a slave to my addiction any longer.
I say look in the mirror because anyone can type a bunch of fancy words on an anonymous message board (texting and calling is a bit more personal, but can still be fake) but it is very difficult to look yourself in the eye and lie.
You must decide to quit, come hell or high water. Like maineguy said - you arent going to stop golfing, hunting, etc. The point of quitting is to regain your life and make sure you live it. As you know, this site demands answers to the following questions when you cave and come back:
1) What happened (your answer): it was a long time ago but i remember when it happened like it was yesterday. i was golfing and was urging bad. i had the smokey mountain but kept thinking "this s**T sucks!!" and kept making excuses in my head that were saying "its ok. its just one dip" and "you can control it this time" and the worst one was "your more addicted to this than all those people". people obviously referring to those i made friends with on this page. well needless to say i put a pinch in. it sucked. i wished i never did it. and the obvious one was, i could not control it.......obvious lies and excuses that i have made many times before. well here i am, 3 years later, dipping over a tin a day and half a pack of butts when i cant dip. im looking at these names thinking about how i not only let them down, but that could be me if i weren't such an excuse maker.
2) Why did it happen (your answer): things i didnt do: the way to not make the same mistake again will be to use the tools available. even though i made friends on here, i never bought into the whole calling or messaging people when i was hurting. i think it made me feel vulnerable or maybe it was because i am just someone that hates asking people for help. i dont know.
3) What will you do differently this time? You need to answer this one. My friend, there was nothing more awkward than reaching out to random dudes for help. But to put it in perspective, I still have my jaw, my tongue, most of my teeth, my vocal chords, and my life. I never have to worry about sneaking off to dip, hiding spitters and cans from my kids, carrying toothpaste and tooth brushes everywhere I go, etc. What I am willing to do to defend my quit is endless.
i dont want to be a slave anymore, but i have caved so many times before. can i really do this? im 33 and have been dipping since i was 18. im tired of this bulls**t!!!
what do i do now?
I am 33, and I started using tobacco products at 14. I broke my chains at 29. I am damn proud to say I am a quitter. If you are really tired of the bullshit, join us. Post roll and invest in your own quit. Do NOT be ashamed of quitting. Caving is shameful and embarrassing. Quitting is like a weight being lifted and allows you to hold your head up high. Own your cave, remember the shame and helpless feeling you had to a small tin of weeds.
What do I do now? Quit. Thats what.
Not quite sure why you have chosen not to post with us in May 11, but that is your call to make. Also wanted to make sure you got to see the entire discussion about your post, since you really haven't been back in May 11 since your return.
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I am getting a divorce and its final. This is going to be a tough time in my life. I have been with her since high school. She was on the sidelines while I played high school football. She was with me when I went to my prom. When I reached college, we took a break. I wanted to see "what else is out there". I met her at a bar two years removed from college. The year was 2003. We began spending time together in the coming days, weeks, and months. Before you know it, we were doing everything together. We even shared living arrangements pretty quickly. I remember our sharing of birthdays, Christmases, and family vacations together. Through all the difficult and stressful times in life, we always made time throughout the week to relax and block out the problems of the day. The years passed and things became rocky. I realized she did not match the obsession I had of her. I began to feel vulnerable about our relationship and its future.
I met some different people in January 2011. I had never met these people before. They began telling stories related to their treatment by their partners. After this meeting, I finally gained enough courage to call it off. The separation lasted for 58 days. After nearly two months I lose my resolve. We spent an afternoon together. This afternoon turned into full days. Those full days turned into 3 full years. I return to my miserable mindset.
Fast forward to March 3, 2014,.............I'm fed up with the situation. I kick the bitch out. I flush and discard any remnants of her existence. I return to my friends from 2011. They forgive me and accept me back. I finally feel strong. I am ready to respect myself and those around me. It has now been eleven days without that selfish bitch and I feel liberated. Today has been pretty rough but I will not dip today. I have spent half of my life married to that bitch. This quit is the one.....
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I am getting a divorce and its final. This is going to be a tough time in my life. I have been with her since high school. She was on the sidelines while I played high school football. She was with me when I went to my prom. When I reached college, we took a break. I wanted to see "what else is out there". I met her at a bar two years removed from college. The year was 2003. We began spending time together in the coming days, weeks, and months. Before you know it, we were doing everything together. We even shared living arrangements pretty quickly. I remember our sharing of birthdays, Christmases, and family vacations together. Through all the difficult and stressful times in life, we always made time throughout the week to relax and block out the problems of the day. The years passed and things became rocky. I realized she did not match the obsession I had of her. I began to feel vulnerable about our relationship and its future.
I met some different people in January 2011. I had never met these people before. They began telling stories related to their treatment by their partners. After this meeting, I finally gained enough courage to call it off. The separation lasted for 58 days. After nearly two months I lose my resolve. We spent an afternoon together. This afternoon turned into full days. Those full days turned into 3 full years. I return to my miserable mindset.
Fast forward to March 3, 2014,.............I'm fed up with the situation. I kick the bitch out. I flush and discard any remnants of her existence. I return to my friends from 2011. They forgive me and accept me back. I finally feel strong. I am ready to respect myself and those around me. It has now been eleven days without that selfish bitch and I feel liberated. Today has been pretty rough but I will not dip today. I have spent half of my life married to that bitch. This quit is the one.....
Great post sixer!! You're crazy bitch of a wife will still nag you for a long time to come, unfortunately. Just make sure you tell her to fuck off every morning when you wake up.
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I am getting a divorce and its final. This is going to be a tough time in my life. I have been with her since high school. She was on the sidelines while I played high school football. She was with me when I went to my prom. When I reached college, we took a break. I wanted to see "what else is out there". I met her at a bar two years removed from college. The year was 2003. We began spending time together in the coming days, weeks, and months. Before you know it, we were doing everything together. We even shared living arrangements pretty quickly. I remember our sharing of birthdays, Christmases, and family vacations together. Through all the difficult and stressful times in life, we always made time throughout the week to relax and block out the problems of the day. The years passed and things became rocky. I realized she did not match the obsession I had of her. I began to feel vulnerable about our relationship and its future.
I met some different people in January 2011. I had never met these people before. They began telling stories related to their treatment by their partners. After this meeting, I finally gained enough courage to call it off. The separation lasted for 58 days. After nearly two months I lose my resolve. We spent an afternoon together. This afternoon turned into full days. Those full days turned into 3 full years. I return to my miserable mindset.
Fast forward to March 3, 2014,.............I'm fed up with the situation. I kick the bitch out. I flush and discard any remnants of her existence. I return to my friends from 2011. They forgive me and accept me back. I finally feel strong. I am ready to respect myself and those around me. It has now been eleven days without that selfish bitch and I feel liberated. Today has been pretty rough but I will not dip today. I have spent half of my life married to that bitch. This quit is the one.....
Dude, I Think You've Been Watching Too Much Telemundo.
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I am getting a divorce and its final. This is going to be a tough time in my life. I have been with her since high school. She was on the sidelines while I played high school football. She was with me when I went to my prom. When I reached college, we took a break. I wanted to see "what else is out there". I met her at a bar two years removed from college. The year was 2003. We began spending time together in the coming days, weeks, and months. Before you know it, we were doing everything together. We even shared living arrangements pretty quickly. I remember our sharing of birthdays, Christmases, and family vacations together. Through all the difficult and stressful times in life, we always made time throughout the week to relax and block out the problems of the day. The years passed and things became rocky. I realized she did not match the obsession I had of her. I began to feel vulnerable about our relationship and its future.
I met some different people in January 2011. I had never met these people before. They began telling stories related to their treatment by their partners. After this meeting, I finally gained enough courage to call it off. The separation lasted for 58 days. After nearly two months I lose my resolve. We spent an afternoon together. This afternoon turned into full days. Those full days turned into 3 full years. I return to my miserable mindset.
Fast forward to March 3, 2014,.............I'm fed up with the situation. I kick the bitch out. I flush and discard any remnants of her existence. I return to my friends from 2011. They forgive me and accept me back. I finally feel strong. I am ready to respect myself and those around me. It has now been eleven days without that selfish bitch and I feel liberated. Today has been pretty rough but I will not dip today. I have spent half of my life married to that bitch. This quit is the one.....
Great post sixer!! You're crazy bitch of a wife will still nag you for a long time to come, unfortunately. Just make sure you tell her to fuck off every morning when you wake up.
Funny as hell! I had to read this twice before I got it. I was thinking you were a dick. :D
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I am getting a divorce and its final. This is going to be a tough time in my life. I have been with her since high school. She was on the sidelines while I played high school football. She was with me when I went to my prom. When I reached college, we took a break. I wanted to see "what else is out there". I met her at a bar two years removed from college. The year was 2003. We began spending time together in the coming days, weeks, and months. Before you know it, we were doing everything together. We even shared living arrangements pretty quickly. I remember our sharing of birthdays, Christmases, and family vacations together. Through all the difficult and stressful times in life, we always made time throughout the week to relax and block out the problems of the day. The years passed and things became rocky. I realized she did not match the obsession I had of her. I began to feel vulnerable about our relationship and its future.
I met some different people in January 2011. I had never met these people before. They began telling stories related to their treatment by their partners. After this meeting, I finally gained enough courage to call it off. The separation lasted for 58 days. After nearly two months I lose my resolve. We spent an afternoon together. This afternoon turned into full days. Those full days turned into 3 full years. I return to my miserable mindset.
Fast forward to March 3, 2014,.............I'm fed up with the situation. I kick the bitch out. I flush and discard any remnants of her existence. I return to my friends from 2011. They forgive me and accept me back. I finally feel strong. I am ready to respect myself and those around me. It has now been eleven days without that selfish bitch and I feel liberated. Today has been pretty rough but I will not dip today. I have spent half of my life married to that bitch. This quit is the one.....
Great post sixer!! You're crazy bitch of a wife will still nag you for a long time to come, unfortunately. Just make sure you tell her to fuck off every morning when you wake up.
Funny as hell! I had to read this twice before I got it. I was thinking you were a dick. :D
Great post, hope all the newbs get to read this!
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I am getting a divorce and its final. This is going to be a tough time in my life. I have been with her since high school. She was on the sidelines while I played high school football. She was with me when I went to my prom. When I reached college, we took a break. I wanted to see "what else is out there". I met her at a bar two years removed from college. The year was 2003. We began spending time together in the coming days, weeks, and months. Before you know it, we were doing everything together. We even shared living arrangements pretty quickly. I remember our sharing of birthdays, Christmases, and family vacations together. Through all the difficult and stressful times in life, we always made time throughout the week to relax and block out the problems of the day. The years passed and things became rocky. I realized she did not match the obsession I had of her. I began to feel vulnerable about our relationship and its future.
I met some different people in January 2011. I had never met these people before. They began telling stories related to their treatment by their partners. After this meeting, I finally gained enough courage to call it off. The separation lasted for 58 days. After nearly two months I lose my resolve. We spent an afternoon together. This afternoon turned into full days. Those full days turned into 3 full years. I return to my miserable mindset.
Fast forward to March 3, 2014,.............I'm fed up with the situation. I kick the bitch out. I flush and discard any remnants of her existence. I return to my friends from 2011. They forgive me and accept me back. I finally feel strong. I am ready to respect myself and those around me. It has now been eleven days without that selfish bitch and I feel liberated. Today has been pretty rough but I will not dip today. I have spent half of my life married to that bitch. This quit is the one.....
Great post sixer!! You're crazy bitch of a wife will still nag you for a long time to come, unfortunately. Just make sure you tell her to fuck off every morning when you wake up.
Funny as hell! I had to read this twice before I got it. I was thinking you were a dick. :D
Great post, hope all the newbs get to read this!
Lightbulb
Also, go find Minny's intro and see what B-Lo Matt thinks of the nic bitch. 'Popcorn'
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wow.....holy shit.....on day 22....feeling like crap for 3 days. i have been foggy, depressed, and displaying super potential rage characteristics. I have neglected this introduction section because I started to feel so good since my last post. But here it goes, again....
For the first time, I would not consider my quit "new". In the beginning, people prepare themselves for the quit. They are actually excited to start a new chapter in their lives. They are tired of being a slave to the bitch. This powers them through the first 3-4 days. They begin to feel "clean" as they surround themselves with quitter materials and sponsors. After the 3-4 days they may begin to feel impenetrable. Then a funk hits, they hold their quit tight to their vests. The funk then subsides. After the funk subsides, due to living in chat with other quitters or in the forums, they begin to realize they must live their lives again. They run out there and become super productive. More productive than they have ever been while using the piece of shit nicotine. They begin to feel free again......
I get to around 19 days. I'm mentally and physically tired. I feel like i can not withstand this level of productivity. I feel another funk. I am not "excited" about my quit anymore. I begin to feel hopeless and for the first time consider the option that this may be "too difficult" for me to accomplish. I utilize my numbers. I talk to people. I explain in texts that "I cant do this forever" and "I have felt like this for 3 days. If i feel like this for the next 6 months. I am a goner. I am a guaranteed caver." More ODAAT is relayed to me from my text savior. I get talked off the ledge. I start getting fucking pissed off. I begin to feel like I am fuckin sick of hearing ODAAT. I am sick of hearing the fuckin word "quit. I am sick of reading and sitting in chat. I continued to text. I began to feel better but still remained in a fog and some state of depression (I guess you would call it.)
March 24, 2014
Wake up.....still feeling like shit. I am pretty much raging. I walk outside to get the barrel (trash day today) and to warm my car. As I step into my car I am saying "Almost April first and it is still fuckin 20 degrees out". I attempt to start my car. Does not start. Try again. Does not start.....Lucky me, im out of gas. I am 33 years old. I am in a fucking fog so bad that I ran out of gas? I lose it. I slam my door. I grab my trash barrel and gave it a 45 foot, one armed shot put throw against the side of the garage while I am yelling "fucks". My neighbors must think I am a damn maniac. I go grab a pair of gloves and a gas can and begin my 1.5 mile trek to the gas station. After about a hundred yards, I am freezing and grab the gloves. I grabbed two fucking left handed gloves!! I am so fuckin pissed. I must be walking 15 miles an hour and freezing.....
I arrive at the store and think about dip. For the first time in my quit, I actually take responsibility for my quit and feel like I meet it head-on. I begin getting pissed at how I feel. I say to myself, "What the fuck is a dip gonna do? absolutely fucking nothing. All its going to do is maybe calm me down for 5 minutes. Then ill be thinking about it again and ill be craving in an hour....i'll dip more.....then fuckin craving for another....i'll dip more....then crave another hour. when does it fucking end? never!!!....I have came to realization that I will be fuckin miserable without dip. And miserable with it. So fuck it. why kill myself in the process?.....All I hear is that it "gets better". i better feel better in the coming days because i may run out of fuckin trash barrels around here......out
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wow.....holy shit.....on day 22....feeling like crap for 3 days. i have been foggy, depressed, and displaying super potential rage characteristics. I have neglected this introduction section because I started to feel so good since my last post. But here it goes, again....
For the first time, I would not consider my quit "new". In the beginning, people prepare themselves for the quit. They are actually excited to start a new chapter in their lives. They are tired of being a slave to the bitch. This powers them through the first 3-4 days. They begin to feel "clean" as they surround themselves with quitter materials and sponsors. After the 3-4 days they may begin to feel impenetrable. Then a funk hits, they hold their quit tight to their vests. The funk then subsides. After the funk subsides, due to living in chat with other quitters or in the forums, they begin to realize they must live their lives again. They run out there and become super productive. More productive than they have ever been while using the piece of shit nicotine. They begin to feel free again......
I get to around 19 days. I'm mentally and physically tired. I feel like i can not withstand this level of productivity. I feel another funk. I am not "excited" about my quit anymore. I begin to feel hopeless and for the first time consider the option that this may be "too difficult" for me to accomplish. I utilize my numbers. I talk to people. I explain in texts that "I cant do this forever" and "I have felt like this for 3 days. If i feel like this for the next 6 months. I am a goner. I am a guaranteed caver." More ODAAT is relayed to me from my text savior. I get talked off the ledge. I start getting fucking pissed off. I begin to feel like I am fuckin sick of hearing ODAAT. I am sick of hearing the fuckin word "quit. I am sick of reading and sitting in chat. I continued to text. I began to feel better but still remained in a fog and some state of depression (I guess you would call it.)
March 24, 2014
Wake up.....still feeling like shit. I am pretty much raging. I walk outside to get the barrel (trash day today) and to warm my car. As I step into my car I am saying "Almost April first and it is still fuckin 20 degrees out". I attempt to start my car. Does not start. Try again. Does not start.....Lucky me, im out of gas. I am 33 years old. I am in a fucking fog so bad that I ran out of gas? I lose it. I slam my door. I grab my trash barrel and gave it a 45 foot, one armed shot put throw against the side of the garage while I am yelling "fucks". My neighbors must think I am a damn maniac. I go grab a pair of gloves and a gas can and begin my 1.5 mile trek to the gas station. After about a hundred yards, I am freezing and grab the gloves. I grabbed two fucking left handed gloves!! I am so fuckin pissed. I must be walking 15 miles an hour and freezing.....
I arrive at the store and think about dip. For the first time in my quit, I actually take responsibility for my quit and feel like I meet it head-on. I begin getting pissed at how I feel. I say to myself, "What the fuck is a dip gonna do? absolutely fucking nothing. All its going to do is maybe calm me down for 5 minutes. Then ill be thinking about it again and ill be craving in an hour....i'll dip more.....then fuckin craving for another....i'll dip more....then crave another hour. when does it fucking end? never!!!....I have came to realization that I will be fuckin miserable without dip. And miserable with it. So fuck it. why kill myself in the process?.....All I hear is that it "gets better". i better feel better in the coming days because i may run out of fuckin trash barrels around here......out
I started to feel better around 40 days in. You'll start feeling better intime also.
There is one thing that will change the game. Commit to the quit. After 20 days it's time bro. There is no cave. I don't care if you feel like crap for i don't care how long. Take caving off the table. There is one thing you got to realize. As long as your addicted brain thinks there is a chance it will not relent. It's time bro! Get pissed at what the poison has done to you, what it is causing now.
The poison sucks. I hated it this morning, i hated it at noon and i hate it tonight. I enjoy hating it so much I'm going to wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. When i began hating what had took so much from me things changed. My outlook changed. My quit became real! It's time my friend. Join me in the hate. It will keep you quit and begin healing what it has destroyed.
Besides all this. You gave your word. We expect you to keep that word. See you tomorrow at roll. There's some new digits coming your way. You call if you need to.
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(Advanced apologies for the language)
wow.....holy shit.....on day 22....feeling like crap for 3 days. i have been foggy, depressed, and displaying super potential rage characteristics. I have neglected this introduction section because I started to feel so good since my last post. But here it goes, again....
For the first time, I would not consider my quit "new". In the beginning, people prepare themselves for the quit. They are actually excited to start a new chapter in their lives. They are tired of being a slave to the bitch. This powers them through the first 3-4 days. They begin to feel "clean" as they surround themselves with quitter materials and sponsors. After the 3-4 days they may begin to feel impenetrable. Then a funk hits, they hold their quit tight to their vests. The funk then subsides. After the funk subsides, due to living in chat with other quitters or in the forums, they begin to realize they must live their lives again. They run out there and become super productive. More productive than they have ever been while using the piece of shit nicotine. They begin to feel free again......
I get to around 19 days. I'm mentally and physically tired. I feel like i can not withstand this level of productivity. I feel another funk. I am not "excited" about my quit anymore. I begin to feel hopeless and for the first time consider the option that this may be "too difficult" for me to accomplish. I utilize my numbers. I talk to people. I explain in texts that "I cant do this forever" and "I have felt like this for 3 days. If i feel like this for the next 6 months. I am a goner. I am a guaranteed caver." More ODAAT is relayed to me from my text savior. I get talked off the ledge. I start getting fucking pissed off. I begin to feel like I am fuckin sick of hearing ODAAT. I am sick of hearing the fuckin word "quit. I am sick of reading and sitting in chat. I continued to text. I began to feel better but still remained in a fog and some state of depression (I guess you would call it.)
March 24, 2014
Wake up.....still feeling like shit. I am pretty much raging. I walk outside to get the barrel (trash day today) and to warm my car. As I step into my car I am saying "Almost April first and it is still fuckin 20 degrees out". I attempt to start my car. Does not start. Try again. Does not start.....Lucky me, im out of gas. I am 33 years old. I am in a fucking fog so bad that I ran out of gas? I lose it. I slam my door. I grab my trash barrel and gave it a 45 foot, one armed shot put throw against the side of the garage while I am yelling "fucks". My neighbors must think I am a damn maniac. I go grab a pair of gloves and a gas can and begin my 1.5 mile trek to the gas station. After about a hundred yards, I am freezing and grab the gloves. I grabbed two fucking left handed gloves!! I am so fuckin pissed. I must be walking 15 miles an hour and freezing.....
I arrive at the store and think about dip. For the first time in my quit, I actually take responsibility for my quit and feel like I meet it head-on. I begin getting pissed at how I feel. I say to myself, "What the fuck is a dip gonna do? absolutely fucking nothing. All its going to do is maybe calm me down for 5 minutes. Then ill be thinking about it again and ill be craving in an hour....i'll dip more.....then fuckin craving for another....i'll dip more....then crave another hour. when does it fucking end? never!!!....I have came to realization that I will be fuckin miserable without dip. And miserable with it. So fuck it. why kill myself in the process?.....All I hear is that it "gets better". i better feel better in the coming days because i may run out of fuckin trash barrels around here......out
I started to feel better around 40 days in. You'll start feeling better intime also.
There is one thing that will change the game. Commit to the quit. After 20 days it's time bro. There is no cave. I don't care if you feel like crap for i don't care how long. Take caving off the table. There is one thing you got to realize. As long as your addicted brain thinks there is a chance it will not relent. It's time bro! Get pissed at what the poison has done to you, what it is causing now.
The poison sucks. I hated it this morning, i hated it at noon and i hate it tonight. I enjoy hating it so much I'm going to wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. When i began hating what had took so much from me things changed. My outlook changed. My quit became real! It's time my friend. Join me in the hate. It will keep you quit and begin healing what it has destroyed.
Besides all this. You gave your word. We expect you to keep that word. See you tomorrow at roll. There's some new digits coming your way. You call if you need to.
Thank you dude
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wow.....holy shit.....on day 22....feeling like crap for 3 days. i have been foggy, depressed, and displaying super potential rage characteristics. I have neglected this introduction section because I started to feel so good since my last post. But here it goes, again....
For the first time, I would not consider my quit "new". In the beginning, people prepare themselves for the quit. They are actually excited to start a new chapter in their lives. They are tired of being a slave to the bitch. This powers them through the first 3-4 days. They begin to feel "clean" as they surround themselves with quitter materials and sponsors. After the 3-4 days they may begin to feel impenetrable. Then a funk hits, they hold their quit tight to their vests. The funk then subsides. After the funk subsides, due to living in chat with other quitters or in the forums, they begin to realize they must live their lives again. They run out there and become super productive. More productive than they have ever been while using the piece of shit nicotine. They begin to feel free again......
I get to around 19 days. I'm mentally and physically tired. I feel like i can not withstand this level of productivity. I feel another funk. I am not "excited" about my quit anymore. I begin to feel hopeless and for the first time consider the option that this may be "too difficult" for me to accomplish. I utilize my numbers. I talk to people. I explain in texts that "I cant do this forever" and "I have felt like this for 3 days. If i feel like this for the next 6 months. I am a goner. I am a guaranteed caver." More ODAAT is relayed to me from my text savior. I get talked off the ledge. I start getting fucking pissed off. I begin to feel like I am fuckin sick of hearing ODAAT. I am sick of hearing the fuckin word "quit. I am sick of reading and sitting in chat. I continued to text. I began to feel better but still remained in a fog and some state of depression (I guess you would call it.)
March 24, 2014
Wake up.....still feeling like shit. I am pretty much raging. I walk outside to get the barrel (trash day today) and to warm my car. As I step into my car I am saying "Almost April first and it is still fuckin 20 degrees out". I attempt to start my car. Does not start. Try again. Does not start.....Lucky me, im out of gas. I am 33 years old. I am in a fucking fog so bad that I ran out of gas? I lose it. I slam my door. I grab my trash barrel and gave it a 45 foot, one armed shot put throw against the side of the garage while I am yelling "fucks". My neighbors must think I am a damn maniac. I go grab a pair of gloves and a gas can and begin my 1.5 mile trek to the gas station. After about a hundred yards, I am freezing and grab the gloves. I grabbed two fucking left handed gloves!! I am so fuckin pissed. I must be walking 15 miles an hour and freezing.....
I arrive at the store and think about dip. For the first time in my quit, I actually take responsibility for my quit and feel like I meet it head-on. I begin getting pissed at how I feel. I say to myself, "What the fuck is a dip gonna do? absolutely fucking nothing. All its going to do is maybe calm me down for 5 minutes. Then ill be thinking about it again and ill be craving in an hour....i'll dip more.....then fuckin craving for another....i'll dip more....then crave another hour. when does it fucking end? never!!!....I have came to realization that I will be fuckin miserable without dip. And miserable with it. So fuck it. why kill myself in the process?.....All I hear is that it "gets better". i better feel better in the coming days because i may run out of fuckin trash barrels around here......out
I started to feel better around 40 days in. You'll start feeling better intime also.
There is one thing that will change the game. Commit to the quit. After 20 days it's time bro. There is no cave. I don't care if you feel like crap for i don't care how long. Take caving off the table. There is one thing you got to realize. As long as your addicted brain thinks there is a chance it will not relent. It's time bro! Get pissed at what the poison has done to you, what it is causing now.
The poison sucks. I hated it this morning, i hated it at noon and i hate it tonight. I enjoy hating it so much I'm going to wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. When i began hating what had took so much from me things changed. My outlook changed. My quit became real! It's time my friend. Join me in the hate. It will keep you quit and begin healing what it has destroyed.
Besides all this. You gave your word. We expect you to keep that word. See you tomorrow at roll. There's some new digits coming your way. You call if you need to.
Thank you dude
Hey Sixer, thank you for this post. Thank you for being so open and honest about what you are going through. That takes balls, and I appreciate it. It's not easy to admit when you are struggling. Don't think for one minute that you are alone in some of the things you're going thru. I think I quit the day after you did, so I can relate. Stay strong and hang in there, bro. If you need anything, get a hold of me.
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(Advanced apologies for the language)
wow.....holy shit.....on day 22....feeling like crap for 3 days. i have been foggy, depressed, and displaying super potential rage characteristics. I have neglected this introduction section because I started to feel so good since my last post. But here it goes, again....
For the first time, I would not consider my quit "new". In the beginning, people prepare themselves for the quit. They are actually excited to start a new chapter in their lives. They are tired of being a slave to the bitch. This powers them through the first 3-4 days. They begin to feel "clean" as they surround themselves with quitter materials and sponsors. After the 3-4 days they may begin to feel impenetrable. Then a funk hits, they hold their quit tight to their vests. The funk then subsides. After the funk subsides, due to living in chat with other quitters or in the forums, they begin to realize they must live their lives again. They run out there and become super productive. More productive than they have ever been while using the piece of shit nicotine. They begin to feel free again......
I get to around 19 days. I'm mentally and physically tired. I feel like i can not withstand this level of productivity. I feel another funk. I am not "excited" about my quit anymore. I begin to feel hopeless and for the first time consider the option that this may be "too difficult" for me to accomplish. I utilize my numbers. I talk to people. I explain in texts that "I cant do this forever" and "I have felt like this for 3 days. If i feel like this for the next 6 months. I am a goner. I am a guaranteed caver." More ODAAT is relayed to me from my text savior. I get talked off the ledge. I start getting fucking pissed off. I begin to feel like I am fuckin sick of hearing ODAAT. I am sick of hearing the fuckin word "quit. I am sick of reading and sitting in chat. I continued to text. I began to feel better but still remained in a fog and some state of depression (I guess you would call it.)
March 24, 2014
Wake up.....still feeling like shit. I am pretty much raging. I walk outside to get the barrel (trash day today) and to warm my car. As I step into my car I am saying "Almost April first and it is still fuckin 20 degrees out". I attempt to start my car. Does not start. Try again. Does not start.....Lucky me, im out of gas. I am 33 years old. I am in a fucking fog so bad that I ran out of gas? I lose it. I slam my door. I grab my trash barrel and gave it a 45 foot, one armed shot put throw against the side of the garage while I am yelling "fucks". My neighbors must think I am a damn maniac. I go grab a pair of gloves and a gas can and begin my 1.5 mile trek to the gas station. After about a hundred yards, I am freezing and grab the gloves. I grabbed two fucking left handed gloves!! I am so fuckin pissed. I must be walking 15 miles an hour and freezing.....
I arrive at the store and think about dip. For the first time in my quit, I actually take responsibility for my quit and feel like I meet it head-on. I begin getting pissed at how I feel. I say to myself, "What the fuck is a dip gonna do? absolutely fucking nothing. All its going to do is maybe calm me down for 5 minutes. Then ill be thinking about it again and ill be craving in an hour....i'll dip more.....then fuckin craving for another....i'll dip more....then crave another hour. when does it fucking end? never!!!....I have came to realization that I will be fuckin miserable without dip. And miserable with it. So fuck it. why kill myself in the process?.....All I hear is that it "gets better". i better feel better in the coming days because i may run out of fuckin trash barrels around here......out
I started to feel better around 40 days in. You'll start feeling better intime also.
There is one thing that will change the game. Commit to the quit. After 20 days it's time bro. There is no cave. I don't care if you feel like crap for i don't care how long. Take caving off the table. There is one thing you got to realize. As long as your addicted brain thinks there is a chance it will not relent. It's time bro! Get pissed at what the poison has done to you, what it is causing now.
The poison sucks. I hated it this morning, i hated it at noon and i hate it tonight. I enjoy hating it so much I'm going to wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. When i began hating what had took so much from me things changed. My outlook changed. My quit became real! It's time my friend. Join me in the hate. It will keep you quit and begin healing what it has destroyed.
Besides all this. You gave your word. We expect you to keep that word. See you tomorrow at roll. There's some new digits coming your way. You call if you need to.
Thank you dude
That's about the same time in my quit where I came down off my "high" of my new found freedom called "quit".
My rage was a bitch during this time. I increased my workouts that helped some. I also spent a ton of time reading KTC.
I got down during this period also. It helped to jump over to the "Wildcard" section read some jokes, etc.
Just remember these feelings/thoughts/cravings/etc will improve with time.
Proud to be quit w/ you.
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(Advanced apologies for the language)
wow.....holy shit.....on day 22....feeling like crap for 3 days. i have been foggy, depressed, and displaying super potential rage characteristics. I have neglected this introduction section because I started to feel so good since my last post. But here it goes, again....
For the first time, I would not consider my quit "new". In the beginning, people prepare themselves for the quit. They are actually excited to start a new chapter in their lives. They are tired of being a slave to the bitch. This powers them through the first 3-4 days. They begin to feel "clean" as they surround themselves with quitter materials and sponsors. After the 3-4 days they may begin to feel impenetrable. Then a funk hits, they hold their quit tight to their vests. The funk then subsides. After the funk subsides, due to living in chat with other quitters or in the forums, they begin to realize they must live their lives again. They run out there and become super productive. More productive than they have ever been while using the piece of shit nicotine. They begin to feel free again......
I get to around 19 days. I'm mentally and physically tired. I feel like i can not withstand this level of productivity. I feel another funk. I am not "excited" about my quit anymore. I begin to feel hopeless and for the first time consider the option that this may be "too difficult" for me to accomplish. I utilize my numbers. I talk to people. I explain in texts that "I cant do this forever" and "I have felt like this for 3 days. If i feel like this for the next 6 months. I am a goner. I am a guaranteed caver." More ODAAT is relayed to me from my text savior. I get talked off the ledge. I start getting fucking pissed off. I begin to feel like I am fuckin sick of hearing ODAAT. I am sick of hearing the fuckin word "quit. I am sick of reading and sitting in chat. I continued to text. I began to feel better but still remained in a fog and some state of depression (I guess you would call it.)
March 24, 2014
Wake up.....still feeling like shit. I am pretty much raging. I walk outside to get the barrel (trash day today) and to warm my car. As I step into my car I am saying "Almost April first and it is still fuckin 20 degrees out". I attempt to start my car. Does not start. Try again. Does not start.....Lucky me, im out of gas. I am 33 years old. I am in a fucking fog so bad that I ran out of gas? I lose it. I slam my door. I grab my trash barrel and gave it a 45 foot, one armed shot put throw against the side of the garage while I am yelling "fucks". My neighbors must think I am a damn maniac. I go grab a pair of gloves and a gas can and begin my 1.5 mile trek to the gas station. After about a hundred yards, I am freezing and grab the gloves. I grabbed two fucking left handed gloves!! I am so fuckin pissed. I must be walking 15 miles an hour and freezing.....
I arrive at the store and think about dip. For the first time in my quit, I actually take responsibility for my quit and feel like I meet it head-on. I begin getting pissed at how I feel. I say to myself, "What the fuck is a dip gonna do? absolutely fucking nothing. All its going to do is maybe calm me down for 5 minutes. Then ill be thinking about it again and ill be craving in an hour....i'll dip more.....then fuckin craving for another....i'll dip more....then crave another hour. when does it fucking end? never!!!....I have came to realization that I will be fuckin miserable without dip. And miserable with it. So fuck it. why kill myself in the process?.....All I hear is that it "gets better". i better feel better in the coming days because i may run out of fuckin trash barrels around here......out
I started to feel better around 40 days in. You'll start feeling better intime also.
There is one thing that will change the game. Commit to the quit. After 20 days it's time bro. There is no cave. I don't care if you feel like crap for i don't care how long. Take caving off the table. There is one thing you got to realize. As long as your addicted brain thinks there is a chance it will not relent. It's time bro! Get pissed at what the poison has done to you, what it is causing now.
The poison sucks. I hated it this morning, i hated it at noon and i hate it tonight. I enjoy hating it so much I'm going to wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. When i began hating what had took so much from me things changed. My outlook changed. My quit became real! It's time my friend. Join me in the hate. It will keep you quit and begin healing what it has destroyed.
Besides all this. You gave your word. We expect you to keep that word. See you tomorrow at roll. There's some new digits coming your way. You call if you need to.
Thank you dude
Being foggy and raged up is natural.
ODAAT.... You may think you are tired of hearing it, but that fucking term will save your ass. It is hard as he'll to do, but you have to forget about forever. You have to forget about the past. All you need to worry about is today. I felt just like you around day 20 and so has just about every person on here. If you did not feel that way I would bet you didn't care about your quit and you were going to fold up tent. People who say this is ez are full of shit. You got to come out swinging every damn day. You can do it!
Look what nicotine has done to you! You are throwing trash cans at YOUR house! You aren't crazy... You are battling. F nicotine.
Believe this... It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it just won't. Good times lie ahead, but you need to stay on your quit today.
Next time you walk into the c-store I want you to give the NIC B the 'Finger' .... The hell with dip. You are free today brother. You are fogged the hell up but we have your back. You can and will get thru today!
Believe it or not I see your day as a victory. Know why?... You are still quit!
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I have to agree with Derk here, Six. You may feel like shit...but you won today. You've got to hold on to that. We are fighting a war here. In war, people get hurt and shit gets broke...but winning cures everything. Keep winning the war and it will all turn out.
I quit with you today. My number is on the way. Holler if you need anything.
We are June, and we are going to kick ass.
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(Advanced apologies for the language)
wow.....holy shit.....on day 22....feeling like crap for 3 days. i have been foggy, depressed, and displaying super potential rage characteristics. I have neglected this introduction section because I started to feel so good since my last post. But here it goes, again....
For the first time, I would not consider my quit "new". In the beginning, people prepare themselves for the quit. They are actually excited to start a new chapter in their lives. They are tired of being a slave to the bitch. This powers them through the first 3-4 days. They begin to feel "clean" as they surround themselves with quitter materials and sponsors. After the 3-4 days they may begin to feel impenetrable. Then a funk hits, they hold their quit tight to their vests. The funk then subsides. After the funk subsides, due to living in chat with other quitters or in the forums, they begin to realize they must live their lives again. They run out there and become super productive. More productive than they have ever been while using the piece of shit nicotine. They begin to feel free again......
I get to around 19 days. I'm mentally and physically tired. I feel like i can not withstand this level of productivity. I feel another funk. I am not "excited" about my quit anymore. I begin to feel hopeless and for the first time consider the option that this may be "too difficult" for me to accomplish. I utilize my numbers. I talk to people. I explain in texts that "I cant do this forever" and "I have felt like this for 3 days. If i feel like this for the next 6 months. I am a goner. I am a guaranteed caver." More ODAAT is relayed to me from my text savior. I get talked off the ledge. I start getting fucking pissed off. I begin to feel like I am fuckin sick of hearing ODAAT. I am sick of hearing the fuckin word "quit. I am sick of reading and sitting in chat. I continued to text. I began to feel better but still remained in a fog and some state of depression (I guess you would call it.)
March 24, 2014
Wake up.....still feeling like shit. I am pretty much raging. I walk outside to get the barrel (trash day today) and to warm my car. As I step into my car I am saying "Almost April first and it is still fuckin 20 degrees out". I attempt to start my car. Does not start. Try again. Does not start.....Lucky me, im out of gas. I am 33 years old. I am in a fucking fog so bad that I ran out of gas? I lose it. I slam my door. I grab my trash barrel and gave it a 45 foot, one armed shot put throw against the side of the garage while I am yelling "fucks". My neighbors must think I am a damn maniac. I go grab a pair of gloves and a gas can and begin my 1.5 mile trek to the gas station. After about a hundred yards, I am freezing and grab the gloves. I grabbed two fucking left handed gloves!! I am so fuckin pissed. I must be walking 15 miles an hour and freezing.....
I arrive at the store and think about dip. For the first time in my quit, I actually take responsibility for my quit and feel like I meet it head-on. I begin getting pissed at how I feel. I say to myself, "What the fuck is a dip gonna do? absolutely fucking nothing. All its going to do is maybe calm me down for 5 minutes. Then ill be thinking about it again and ill be craving in an hour....i'll dip more.....then fuckin craving for another....i'll dip more....then crave another hour. when does it fucking end? never!!!....I have came to realization that I will be fuckin miserable without dip. And miserable with it. So fuck it. why kill myself in the process?.....All I hear is that it "gets better". i better feel better in the coming days because i may run out of fuckin trash barrels around here......out
I started to feel better around 40 days in. You'll start feeling better intime also.
There is one thing that will change the game. Commit to the quit. After 20 days it's time bro. There is no cave. I don't care if you feel like crap for i don't care how long. Take caving off the table. There is one thing you got to realize. As long as your addicted brain thinks there is a chance it will not relent. It's time bro! Get pissed at what the poison has done to you, what it is causing now.
The poison sucks. I hated it this morning, i hated it at noon and i hate it tonight. I enjoy hating it so much I'm going to wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. When i began hating what had took so much from me things changed. My outlook changed. My quit became real! It's time my friend. Join me in the hate. It will keep you quit and begin healing what it has destroyed.
Besides all this. You gave your word. We expect you to keep that word. See you tomorrow at roll. There's some new digits coming your way. You call if you need to.
Thank you dude
Being foggy and raged up is natural.
ODAAT.... You may think you are tired of hearing it, but that fucking term will save your ass. It is hard as he'll to do, but you have to forget about forever. You have to forget about the past. All you need to worry about is today. I felt just like you around day 20 and so has just about every person on here. If you did not feel that way I would bet you didn't care about your quit and you were going to fold up tent. People who say this is ez are full of shit. You got to come out swinging every damn day. You can do it!
Look what nicotine has done to you! You are throwing trash cans at YOUR house! You aren't crazy... You are battling. F nicotine.
Believe this... It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it just won't. Good times lie ahead, but you need to stay on your quit today.
Next time you walk into the c-store I want you to give the NIC B the 'Finger' .... The hell with dip. You are free today brother. You are fogged the hell up but we have your back. You can and will get thru today!
Believe it or not I see your day as a victory. Know why?... You are still quit!
Way to go 6r. Rage against the cunt! She is mind fucking you and your rage will set you free!
You are winning. You proved that today. Just keep +1ing and I'll be right with you.
QLF!
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Dial the digits because you know I"m here. Hell I'd even let you throw me around if you run out of trash barrells! Super proud to be quit with you Six!
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(Advanced apologies for the language)
wow.....holy shit.....on day 22....feeling like crap for 3 days. i have been foggy, depressed, and displaying super potential rage characteristics. I have neglected this introduction section because I started to feel so good since my last post. But here it goes, again....
For the first time, I would not consider my quit "new". In the beginning, people prepare themselves for the quit. They are actually excited to start a new chapter in their lives. They are tired of being a slave to the bitch. This powers them through the first 3-4 days. They begin to feel "clean" as they surround themselves with quitter materials and sponsors. After the 3-4 days they may begin to feel impenetrable. Then a funk hits, they hold their quit tight to their vests. The funk then subsides. After the funk subsides, due to living in chat with other quitters or in the forums, they begin to realize they must live their lives again. They run out there and become super productive. More productive than they have ever been while using the piece of shit nicotine. They begin to feel free again......
I get to around 19 days. I'm mentally and physically tired. I feel like i can not withstand this level of productivity. I feel another funk. I am not "excited" about my quit anymore. I begin to feel hopeless and for the first time consider the option that this may be "too difficult" for me to accomplish. I utilize my numbers. I talk to people. I explain in texts that "I cant do this forever" and "I have felt like this for 3 days. If i feel like this for the next 6 months. I am a goner. I am a guaranteed caver." More ODAAT is relayed to me from my text savior. I get talked off the ledge. I start getting fucking pissed off. I begin to feel like I am fuckin sick of hearing ODAAT. I am sick of hearing the fuckin word "quit. I am sick of reading and sitting in chat. I continued to text. I began to feel better but still remained in a fog and some state of depression (I guess you would call it.)
March 24, 2014
Wake up.....still feeling like shit. I am pretty much raging. I walk outside to get the barrel (trash day today) and to warm my car. As I step into my car I am saying "Almost April first and it is still fuckin 20 degrees out". I attempt to start my car. Does not start. Try again. Does not start.....Lucky me, im out of gas. I am 33 years old. I am in a fucking fog so bad that I ran out of gas? I lose it. I slam my door. I grab my trash barrel and gave it a 45 foot, one armed shot put throw against the side of the garage while I am yelling "fucks". My neighbors must think I am a damn maniac. I go grab a pair of gloves and a gas can and begin my 1.5 mile trek to the gas station. After about a hundred yards, I am freezing and grab the gloves. I grabbed two fucking left handed gloves!! I am so fuckin pissed. I must be walking 15 miles an hour and freezing.....
I arrive at the store and think about dip. For the first time in my quit, I actually take responsibility for my quit and feel like I meet it head-on. I begin getting pissed at how I feel. I say to myself, "What the fuck is a dip gonna do? absolutely fucking nothing. All its going to do is maybe calm me down for 5 minutes. Then ill be thinking about it again and ill be craving in an hour....i'll dip more.....then fuckin craving for another....i'll dip more....then crave another hour. when does it fucking end? never!!!....I have came to realization that I will be fuckin miserable without dip. And miserable with it. So fuck it. why kill myself in the process?.....All I hear is that it "gets better". i better feel better in the coming days because i may run out of fuckin trash barrels around here......out
I started to feel better around 40 days in. You'll start feeling better intime also.
There is one thing that will change the game. Commit to the quit. After 20 days it's time bro. There is no cave. I don't care if you feel like crap for i don't care how long. Take caving off the table. There is one thing you got to realize. As long as your addicted brain thinks there is a chance it will not relent. It's time bro! Get pissed at what the poison has done to you, what it is causing now.
The poison sucks. I hated it this morning, i hated it at noon and i hate it tonight. I enjoy hating it so much I'm going to wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. When i began hating what had took so much from me things changed. My outlook changed. My quit became real! It's time my friend. Join me in the hate. It will keep you quit and begin healing what it has destroyed.
Besides all this. You gave your word. We expect you to keep that word. See you tomorrow at roll. There's some new digits coming your way. You call if you need to.
Thank you dude
Being foggy and raged up is natural.
ODAAT.... You may think you are tired of hearing it, but that fucking term will save your ass. It is hard as he'll to do, but you have to forget about forever. You have to forget about the past. All you need to worry about is today. I felt just like you around day 20 and so has just about every person on here. If you did not feel that way I would bet you didn't care about your quit and you were going to fold up tent. People who say this is ez are full of shit. You got to come out swinging every damn day. You can do it!
Look what nicotine has done to you! You are throwing trash cans at YOUR house! You aren't crazy... You are battling. F nicotine.
Believe this... It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it just won't. Good times lie ahead, but you need to stay on your quit today.
Next time you walk into the c-store I want you to give the NIC B the 'Finger' .... The hell with dip. You are free today brother. You are fogged the hell up but we have your back. You can and will get thru today!
Believe it or not I see your day as a victory. Know why?... You are still quit!
Way to go 6r. Rage against the cunt! She is mind fucking you and your rage will set you free!
You are winning. You proved that today. Just keep +1ing and I'll be right with you.
QLF!
Tobacco is pure evil dog shit.
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While I sit here residing in my never ending funk, I begin to take solace in many parts of my quit. Yes, I am miserable. Yes, I feel worse than day 2. Yes, I have thought about dip 5,432 times today. These feelings however are not endangering my quit. I have never felt like a cave was imminent. I have sort of brushed them away during times I could have proceeded to get in my car and go to the store. It doesn't make sense. I honestly feel like I am beginning to hate nicotine. I recognize that caving would only delay the inevitable. This would be the endless craves after the completion of every single dip. I recognize I can not control this habit. I get pissed off when I think about Jim Kelly. I get pissed off when i think about the Kerns. I get pissed off when i think about how this product is BANNED (yes, it is illegal) in most of Europe and Australia. Many people throughout Europe drink wine at the dinner table at the age of 9 or 10. Europeans are very tolerant in many different areas including cigarette usage, sexuality, and drinking among many others. How the hell can smokeless tobacco be banned in these nations? Why is it so readily available here in America? These are the things that fill my brain as I rage against my funk. The funk might as well go away because the nic bitch will not win. I will not be a pawn to anyone. I refuse to be a slave and a sucker to corporate greed and big tobacco. Tomorrow will be day 24 and I will continue to be on my way. Out.
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While I sit here residing in my never ending funk, I begin to take solace in many parts of my quit. Yes, I am miserable. Yes, I feel worse than day 2. Yes, I have thought about dip 5,432 times today. These feelings however are not endangering my quit. I have never felt like a cave was imminent. I have sort of brushed them away during times I could have proceeded to get in my car and go to the store. It doesn't make sense. I honestly feel like I am beginning to hate nicotine. I recognize that caving would only delay the inevitable. This would be the endless craves after the completion of every single dip. I recognize I can not control this habit. I get pissed off when I think about Jim Kelly. I get pissed off when i think about the Kerns. I get pissed off when i think about how this product is BANNED (yes, it is illegal) in most of Europe and Australia. Many people throughout Europe drink wine at the dinner table at the age of 9 or 10. Europeans are very tolerant in many different areas including cigarette usage, sexuality, and drinking among many others. How the hell can smokeless tobacco be banned in these nations? Why is it so readily available here in America? These are the things that fill my brain as I rage against my funk. The funk might as well go away because the nic bitch will not win. I will not be a pawn to anyone. I refuse to be a slave and a sucker to corporate greed and big tobacco. Tomorrow will be day 24 and I will continue to be on my way. Out.
Sixer your coming to a real turning point in your quit. The first month can really be a bruiser. You will come to a point soon where it really starts to click for you, this first month "fog" that most of us experience becomes a very important memory.
We all come in knowing or hearing that it only takes 72 hours to get nicotine out of our system. But the effect of depriving our bodies of the poison we supplied it for so long takes more time to heal. This funk or fog whatever you want to call it is your brain beginning to heal. The war is never over with the nic bitch, she will always scratch and claw trying to wedge herself back into your life, but you're winning these tough early battles a day at time Sixer.
I'm proud to quit with you today and know that better times are ahead!
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Compulsion-an irresistible urge to behave in a certain way, especially against one's conscious wishes
A compulsion can develop in a very short period of time. One in three youth that have tried tobacco products 3 and no more than 4 times have inhibited characteristics of compulsion. I have realized and researched that there are three different phases of compulsion. These are wanting, craving, and needing. Needing is obviously the highest stage of the addiction process. I have realized that it is important for us as addicts to recognize our minds entering the different phases of compulsion. This is imperative because we are at an increasingly higher risk of giving in to our urges as we enter escalated levels of the three phases. I have tried during my current quit to utilize numbers, bang out push-ups, and use other techniques while in the "want" and "craving" phase. I have felt like if I can re-focus my mind on something other than nicotine during these initial levels, then I can be more successful.
I have done much more research on addiction during this hopefully final quit. As I have mentioned many times, I caved after 58 days in 2011. I have also seen many people cave, come back to the site for a short period of time, and then be gone into years of addiction. I take the answers to the three questions seriously. This is kind of my own way of stating "what I will differently this time to avoid the previous cave". Maybe my continued reflection on these answers can solidify my quit and be the final time I have to go through this bullshit.
The use of tobacco will kill over 1 billion people in the coming century. It is the highest fatal condition of those introduced to humans at the early stages of life. I was almost guaranteed to be one of these billion people. This changed when I found this site and began to understand nicotine, my addiction, and specifics on how to win the battle each day. out.
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Compulsion-an irresistible urge to behave in a certain way, especially against one's conscious wishes
A compulsion can develop in a very short period of time. One in three youth that have tried tobacco products 3 and no more than 4 times have inhibited characteristics of compulsion. I have realized and researched that there are three different phases of compulsion. These are wanting, craving, and needing. Needing is obviously the highest stage of the addiction process. I have realized that it is important for us as addicts to recognize our minds entering the different phases of compulsion. This is imperative because we are at an increasingly higher risk of giving in to our urges as we enter escalated levels of the three phases. I have tried during my current quit to utilize numbers, bang out push-ups, and use other techniques while in the "want" and "craving" phase. I have felt like if I can re-focus my mind on something other than nicotine during these initial levels, then I can be more successful.
I have done much more research on addiction during this hopefully final quit. As I have mentioned many times, I caved after 58 days in 2011. I have also seen many people cave, come back to the site for a short period of time, and then be gone into years of addiction. I take the answers to the three questions seriously. This is kind of my own way of stating "what I will differently this time to avoid the previous cave". Maybe my continued reflection on these answers can solidify my quit and be the final time I have to go through this bullshit.
The use of tobacco will kill over 1 billion people in the coming century. It is the highest fatal condition of those introduced to humans at the early stages of life. I was almost guaranteed to be one of these billion people. This changed when I found this site and began to understand nicotine, my addiction, and specifics on how to win the battle each day. out.
One day at a time. Post your word and vs a man of integrity. There is no need for hope... You've got some bad ass quitters on your team. You are winning. Keep posting and you will keep winning.
Only losers (not winners) I've seen are peeps that stop posting.
By the way... None of us "need" nicotine, though I sure as fuck thought I did for 25 years. All lies.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. I can not however help but think of this Saturday night. I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze. I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation. I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends. This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1. My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. I can not however help but think of this Saturday night. I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze. I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation. I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends. This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1. My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
You got this bro. Remind yourself how much you hate nicotine, keep that fear of caving, and you'll make it through.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. I can not however help but think of this Saturday night. I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze. I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation. I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends. This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1. My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
You got this bro. Remind yourself how much you hate nicotine, keep that fear of caving, and you'll make it through.
Put something in the front pocket of your pants, piece of bubble gum, lemon drop, chapstick, even a small rock. That is your talisman. Reach for it whenever you're not on 100% solid ground with your quit. It is your back door into the KTC community. Use it.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. I can not however help but think of this Saturday night. I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze. I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation. I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends. This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1. My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
You got this bro. Remind yourself how much you hate nicotine, keep that fear of caving, and you'll make it through.
Put something in the front pocket of your pants, piece of bubble gum, lemon drop, chapstick, even a small rock. That is your talisman. Reach for it whenever you're not on 100% solid ground with your quit. It is your back door into the KTC community. Use it.
That sounds like a good plan, Dude. You got this.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. I can not however help but think of this Saturday night. I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze. I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation. I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends. This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1. My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
You got this bro. Remind yourself how much you hate nicotine, keep that fear of caving, and you'll make it through.
Put something in the front pocket of your pants, piece of bubble gum, lemon drop, chapstick, even a small rock. That is your talisman. Reach for it whenever you're not on 100% solid ground with your quit. It is your back door into the KTC community. Use it.
That sounds like a good plan, Dude. You got this.
6r,
You have already made your plan to succeed and I am sure you will. Just keep the nic bitch at bay while you play with your alky friend.
You can do it....just be careful.
Cheers!
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. I can not however help but think of this Saturday night. I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze. I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation. I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends. This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1. My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
You got this bro. Remind yourself how much you hate nicotine, keep that fear of caving, and you'll make it through.
Put something in the front pocket of your pants, piece of bubble gum, lemon drop, chapstick, even a small rock. That is your talisman. Reach for it whenever you're not on 100% solid ground with your quit. It is your back door into the KTC community. Use it.
That sounds like a good plan, Dude. You got this.
6r,
You have already made your plan to succeed and I am sure you will. Just keep the nic bitch at bay while you play with your alky friend.
You can do it....just be careful.
Cheers!
I feel you sixer and I remember that day for me. I like your planning but be cautious. Alcohol can bring on a case of the "fuck its" real fast.
I remember getting some fake and loading up on sunflower seeds just in case. I am also remember talking to a few quitters that night which really helped a ton. If you need another number, send me a PM.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. I can not however help but think of this Saturday night. I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze. I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation. I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends. This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1. My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
You got this bro. Remind yourself how much you hate nicotine, keep that fear of caving, and you'll make it through.
Put something in the front pocket of your pants, piece of bubble gum, lemon drop, chapstick, even a small rock. That is your talisman. Reach for it whenever you're not on 100% solid ground with your quit. It is your back door into the KTC community. Use it.
That sounds like a good plan, Dude. You got this.
6r,
You have already made your plan to succeed and I am sure you will. Just keep the nic bitch at bay while you play with your alky friend.
You can do it....just be careful.
Cheers!
I feel you sixer and I remember that day for me. I like your planning but be cautious. Alcohol can bring on a case of the "fuck its" real fast.
I remember getting some fake and loading up on sunflower seeds just in case. I am also remember talking to a few quitters that night which really helped a ton. If you need another number, send me a PM.
Damn son, looks like some intentional quit going on in here!
'clap'
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. I can not however help but think of this Saturday night. I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze. I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation. I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends. This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1. My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
Can I just ask a question?
Why?
Why chance it? Are you hurting without it? Do you really NEED to drink this weekend? What will happen if you don't?
I only ask becuase you have a very complete, complex and elaborate plan in place to help you while you drink. Doesn't that bother you?
I'm not against drinking, mind you, I was just struck by this complexity for you to prepare for something. If it's that big of a deal, and that big of a risk, why not skip it this weekend, stay home and not chance it?
Just a thought.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes.� I can not however help but think of this Saturday night.� I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze.� I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation.� I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends.� This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1.� My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
Can I just ask a question?
Why?
Why chance it? Are you hurting without it? Do you really NEED to drink this weekend? What will happen if you don't?
I only ask becuase you have a very complete, complex and elaborate plan in place to help you while you drink. Doesn't that bother you?
I'm not against drinking, mind you, I was just struck by this complexity for you to prepare for something. If it's that big of a deal, and that big of a risk, why not skip it this weekend, stay home and not chance it?
Just a thought.
I totally agree with this ^^^^ fine quitter. Why all the plans? It sounds to me like you are making plans because you have no choice, but to drink this weekend. You have a choice my friend. You can choose to drink just like you choose whether to put the poison in your pie hole.
Your not out of the woods yet, not by far. YOUR decision!
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes.� I can not however help but think of this Saturday night.� I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze.� I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation.� I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends.� This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1.� My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
Can I just ask a question?
Why?
Why chance it? Are you hurting without it? Do you really NEED to drink this weekend? What will happen if you don't?
I only ask becuase you have a very complete, complex and elaborate plan in place to help you while you drink. Doesn't that bother you?
I'm not against drinking, mind you, I was just struck by this complexity for you to prepare for something. If it's that big of a deal, and that big of a risk, why not skip it this weekend, stay home and not chance it?
Just a thought.
I totally agree with this ^^^^ fine quitter. Why all the plans? It sounds to me like you are making plans because you have no choice, but to drink this weekend. You have a choice my friend. You can choose to drink just like you choose whether to put the poison in your pie hole.
Your not out of the woods yet, not by far. YOUR decision!
My suggestion(s) to you mr. sixer is to just understand your limits...i remember early in my first go around where i got so drunk that i had to ask someone the next day if i had chewed or smoked because i really couldn't remember....that was scary. luckily at the time i had not. anyways...drink slow..enjoy the night...if there is a rash of people there smoking and dipping then just stay clear of the group that is doing those things when they are doing them. Anyhow...don't let quitting get in front of your life, but don't let life get in front of you quit...if that makes any sense...quit on my friend
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes.� I can not however help but think of this Saturday night.� I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze.� I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation.� I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends.� This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1.� My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
Can I just ask a question?
Why?
Why chance it? Are you hurting without it? Do you really NEED to drink this weekend? What will happen if you don't?
I only ask becuase you have a very complete, complex and elaborate plan in place to help you while you drink. Doesn't that bother you?
I'm not against drinking, mind you, I was just struck by this complexity for you to prepare for something. If it's that big of a deal, and that big of a risk, why not skip it this weekend, stay home and not chance it?
Just a thought.
I totally agree with this ^^^^ fine quitter. Why all the plans? It sounds to me like you are making plans because you have no choice, but to drink this weekend. You have a choice my friend. You can choose to drink just like you choose whether to put the poison in your pie hole.
Your not out of the woods yet, not by far. YOUR decision!
My suggestion(s) to you mr. sixer is to just understand your limits...i remember early in my first go around where i got so drunk that i had to ask someone the next day if i had chewed or smoked because i really couldn't remember....that was scary. luckily at the time i had not. anyways...drink slow..enjoy the night...if there is a rash of people there smoking and dipping then just stay clear of the group that is doing those things when they are doing them. Anyhow...don't let quitting get in front of your life, but don't let life get in front of you quit...if that makes any sense...quit on my friend
At some point it needs to happen. I am not going to go the rest of my life without a drink. At 30
Days I expect to be free. Not free from cravings and urges. But free to live my life away from a chatroom, a forum, and at a party having a drink or two. I look at it the other way. I have a plan in place as a precaution. I don't expect it to be necessary but if it is then that's what I am going to do. I'm sick of dip controlling my decisions in life and this is going to be a moment where I am going to take responsibility and say fuck it. There are are millions of people that drink without nic and this fucking weekend, I will be one of them.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes.� I can not however help but think of this Saturday night.� I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze.� I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation.� I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends.� This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1.� My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
Can I just ask a question?
Why?
Why chance it? Are you hurting without it? Do you really NEED to drink this weekend? What will happen if you don't?
I only ask becuase you have a very complete, complex and elaborate plan in place to help you while you drink. Doesn't that bother you?
I'm not against drinking, mind you, I was just struck by this complexity for you to prepare for something. If it's that big of a deal, and that big of a risk, why not skip it this weekend, stay home and not chance it?
Just a thought.
I totally agree with this ^^^^ fine quitter. Why all the plans? It sounds to me like you are making plans because you have no choice, but to drink this weekend. You have a choice my friend. You can choose to drink just like you choose whether to put the poison in your pie hole.
Your not out of the woods yet, not by far. YOUR decision!
My suggestion(s) to you mr. sixer is to just understand your limits...i remember early in my first go around where i got so drunk that i had to ask someone the next day if i had chewed or smoked because i really couldn't remember....that was scary. luckily at the time i had not. anyways...drink slow..enjoy the night...if there is a rash of people there smoking and dipping then just stay clear of the group that is doing those things when they are doing them. Anyhow...don't let quitting get in front of your life, but don't let life get in front of you quit...if that makes any sense...quit on my friend
don't let quitting get in front of your life
I disagree with this ^^^^. Make quitting the most important thing in your life, or you will fail. Proven by the writer.
Do whatever you have to to ensure you don't fail my friend. If you have to stop drinking for a while then do so. Like I stated before. Your decision. Choose wisely.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes.� I can not however help but think of this Saturday night.� I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze.� I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation.� I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends.� This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1.� My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
Can I just ask a question?
Why?
Why chance it? Are you hurting without it? Do you really NEED to drink this weekend? What will happen if you don't?
I only ask becuase you have a very complete, complex and elaborate plan in place to help you while you drink. Doesn't that bother you?
I'm not against drinking, mind you, I was just struck by this complexity for you to prepare for something. If it's that big of a deal, and that big of a risk, why not skip it this weekend, stay home and not chance it?
Just a thought.
I totally agree with this ^^^^ fine quitter. Why all the plans? It sounds to me like you are making plans because you have no choice, but to drink this weekend. You have a choice my friend. You can choose to drink just like you choose whether to put the poison in your pie hole.
Your not out of the woods yet, not by far. YOUR decision!
My suggestion(s) to you mr. sixer is to just understand your limits...i remember early in my first go around where i got so drunk that i had to ask someone the next day if i had chewed or smoked because i really couldn't remember....that was scary. luckily at the time i had not. anyways...drink slow..enjoy the night...if there is a rash of people there smoking and dipping then just stay clear of the group that is doing those things when they are doing them. Anyhow...don't let quitting get in front of your life, but don't let life get in front of you quit...if that makes any sense...quit on my friend
At some point it needs to happen. I am not going to go the rest of my life without a drink. At 30
Days I expect to be free. Not free from cravings and urges. But free to live my life away from a chatroom, a forum, and at a party having a drink or two. I look at it the other way. I have a plan in place as a precaution. I don't expect it to be necessary but if it is then that's what I am going to do. I'm sick of dip controlling my decisions in life and this is going to be a moment where I am going to take responsibility and say fuck it. There are are millions of people that drink without nic and this fucking weekend, I will be one of them.
I'm not making my point clear, and for that, I'm sorry.
This is not a 'You should quit drinking' mantra. Not my place to say.
What I am saying is, you are not even 30 days into your Quit and you are planning to go out, get trashed with your buds (who probably dip and/or smoke) and celebrate your 30 days Quit.
Bad fucking idea, I don't care how many pieces of paper you have in your pocket, phone numbers, or sticks of gum you have.
You are going to tear it up, by your own admission. You are going to jump tits deep into a situation where your ability to make conscious, wise decisions will be purposefully impaired. The chances of you posting a Day 1 on Monday are rising exponentially.
All I'm saying is, what is so important about this weekend? You said it yourself - it's going to happen eventually, why not let that eventuality happen when you are much stronger in your Quit?
This is a dangerous plan. That's all I'm saying.
If you don't think I speak the troof, just read about a million Intro pages of guys who go out, get hammered, and wind up with a lip turd in the morning.
Be smart.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes.� I can not however help but think of this Saturday night.� I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze.� I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation.� I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends.� This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1.� My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
Can I just ask a question?
Why?
Why chance it? Are you hurting without it? Do you really NEED to drink this weekend? What will happen if you don't?
I only ask becuase you have a very complete, complex and elaborate plan in place to help you while you drink. Doesn't that bother you?
I'm not against drinking, mind you, I was just struck by this complexity for you to prepare for something. If it's that big of a deal, and that big of a risk, why not skip it this weekend, stay home and not chance it?
Just a thought.
I totally agree with this ^^^^ fine quitter. Why all the plans? It sounds to me like you are making plans because you have no choice, but to drink this weekend. You have a choice my friend. You can choose to drink just like you choose whether to put the poison in your pie hole.
Your not out of the woods yet, not by far. YOUR decision!
My suggestion(s) to you mr. sixer is to just understand your limits...i remember early in my first go around where i got so drunk that i had to ask someone the next day if i had chewed or smoked because i really couldn't remember....that was scary. luckily at the time i had not. anyways...drink slow..enjoy the night...if there is a rash of people there smoking and dipping then just stay clear of the group that is doing those things when they are doing them. Anyhow...don't let quitting get in front of your life, but don't let life get in front of you quit...if that makes any sense...quit on my friend
don't let quitting get in front of your life
I disagree with this ^^^^. Make quitting the most important thing in your life, or you will fail. Proven by the writer.
Do whatever you have to to ensure you don't fail my friend. If you have to stop drinking for a while then do so. Like I stated before. Your decision. Choose wisely.
If you're worried about it... you're not ready.
Take it off the table. Surprise!... Many a good time has been had without booze.
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i understand the importance of the whole ODAAT model for KTC and for addicts as a whole. Promise to not dip today and worry about tomorrow when it comes.� I can not however help but think of this Saturday night.� I have a specific plan in place. This Saturday night will not only be my 27th day of quit, but it will be my 29th day without the booze.� I have enjoyed drinking on weekends for the majority of my adult life. I have made it a point to be sober throughout my initial quit and have been able to follow through with that obligation.� I told on day 1 of my quit that I would wait 30 days before I had a drop of alcohol. I also promised myself that I would ease my way into drinking in a progressive manner throughout the following weekends.� This Saturday is my sister-in-laws surprise 30th bday party. I have come up with a plan and here it is:
1) Post roll in the AM
2) go to work
3) go to gym
4) charge cell phone
5) check in on website
6) re-print contract
7) re-print a page from the kern story
8) place both in wallet
9) make a promise to use contract, page, and the multiple numbers I have in my phone
10) drink socially (pack buzz, no more)
11) conquer first day of drinking
This whole thing may sound dramatic, but I have been worried about this day since day 1.� My guard is up and I will not fail. thank you. out.
Can I just ask a question?
Why?
Why chance it? Are you hurting without it? Do you really NEED to drink this weekend? What will happen if you don't?
I only ask becuase you have a very complete, complex and elaborate plan in place to help you while you drink. Doesn't that bother you?
I'm not against drinking, mind you, I was just struck by this complexity for you to prepare for something. If it's that big of a deal, and that big of a risk, why not skip it this weekend, stay home and not chance it?
Just a thought.
I totally agree with this ^^^^ fine quitter. Why all the plans? It sounds to me like you are making plans because you have no choice, but to drink this weekend. You have a choice my friend. You can choose to drink just like you choose whether to put the poison in your pie hole.
Your not out of the woods yet, not by far. YOUR decision!
My suggestion(s) to you mr. sixer is to just understand your limits...i remember early in my first go around where i got so drunk that i had to ask someone the next day if i had chewed or smoked because i really couldn't remember....that was scary. luckily at the time i had not. anyways...drink slow..enjoy the night...if there is a rash of people there smoking and dipping then just stay clear of the group that is doing those things when they are doing them. Anyhow...don't let quitting get in front of your life, but don't let life get in front of you quit...if that makes any sense...quit on my friend
At some point it needs to happen. I am not going to go the rest of my life without a drink. At 30
Days I expect to be free. Not free from cravings and urges. But free to live my life away from a chatroom, a forum, and at a party having a drink or two. I look at it the other way. I have a plan in place as a precaution. I don't expect it to be necessary but if it is then that's what I am going to do. I'm sick of dip controlling my decisions in life and this is going to be a moment where I am going to take responsibility and say fuck it. There are are millions of people that drink without nic and this fucking weekend, I will be one of them.
I'm not making my point clear, and for that, I'm sorry.
This is not a 'You should quit drinking' mantra. Not my place to say.
What I am saying is, you are not even 30 days into your Quit and you are planning to go out, get trashed with your buds (who probably dip and/or smoke) and celebrate your 30 days Quit.
Bad fucking idea, I don't care how many pieces of paper you have in your pocket, phone numbers, or sticks of gum you have.
You are going to tear it up, by your own admission. You are going to jump tits deep into a situation where your ability to make conscious, wise decisions will be purposefully impaired. The chances of you posting a Day 1 on Monday are rising exponentially.
All I'm saying is, what is so important about this weekend? You said it yourself - it's going to happen eventually, why not let that eventuality happen when you are much stronger in your Quit?
This is a dangerous plan. That's all I'm saying.
If you don't think I speak the troof, just read about a million Intro pages of guys who go out, get hammered, and wind up with a lip turd in the morning.
Be smart.
my .02 - life happens. Unless you plan on quitting drinking entirely, you are going to eventually have to face the lowered inhibitions it brings. Does it have to be this weekend, still in the first month of your quit? Only you can decide that. My approach was to have my initial drinks in a "safe" environment - at home, with my wife and no access to tobacco or nicotine. Yes, the craves were vicious. I do not know if I would have succumbed to them if it was available, I would like to believe I would be strong enough to resist.
In either case its irrelevant - I had a plan for dealing with this part of life. I believe it was about day 30 or 40 of my quit. One of the main reasons for this is that I had a planned family vacation - brothers, sisters, father (RIP), nieces, nephews, kids, etc - that started about day 70 and knew there would be drinking. I let everyone there know I had just quit, and since my sister and BIL were also quitters (smoking) they had an understanding of what I was going through. There were still craves during the vacation drinking, but I was ready for them because I had tested myself in a "safe environment."
Your quit should be one of the most important, guarded things right now. Taking your first sips of alcohol since quitting while you are around a bunch of dippers and smokers in a party environment may not be the best idea, and unless you plan on having just one or two beers over a couple of hours (social sipping, i.e. no buzz) those papers aint gonna save you if you get to the brink and a can is in your face. Do you enjoy the people's company you are going to party with? If so, alcohol is probably not a must have to be at the party. If you decide not to risk it, I suggest volunteering to be a DD and taking some kind of non-alcoholic beverage of your choice. I did that a number of times when my wife and friends wanted to go out.
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You have received some good advice here and some advice that I don't agree with (which is why I am not copying it again).
No one here can be your parent and tell you what to do, nor are they trying to. You are an adult so taking advice can cause your guard to come up.
My advice is commit to your quit and understand that many of us have seen caves happen because other stoppers didn't properly prepare for situations like you are being warned about.
I myself have gotten torn ass drunk since my quit started but I waited until I knew I was ready to face any circumstances.
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You have received some good advice here and some advice that I don't agree with (which is why I am not copying it again).
No one here can be your parent and tell you what to do, nor are they trying to. You are an adult so taking advice can cause your guard to come up.
My advice is commit to your quit and understand that many of us have seen caves happen because other stoppers didn't properly prepare for situations like you are being warned about.
I myself have gotten torn ass drunk since my quit started but I waited until I knew I was ready to face any circumstances.
Some sound advice there! Don't risk your quit if you're not ready. You have plenty of time to get drunk in the future. If you are still tempted when you see other dippers or smokers when you drink like probably 98% of the folks in here were at 30 days quit, its best to avoid drinking with them for now. But, its your quit and you are free to to whatever you want.
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I see lots of sound advice from quitters that I respect in this thread in regards to drinking. Generally speaking, I agree that drinking puts a quit in danger be it at day 30, 300, or 3000. The reason is because alcohol impairs judgement. Now having said that, I believe wholeheartedly in the theory of "nic is still controlling my life if I can't have a drink (or whatever) when I want it". I made a similar post as you have early into my quit - the first week I believe - and I caught a lot of flak for it. Of course I didn't cave because I posted roll that day and I was ready to tackle it head on. I looked at it as a test of sorts that I had no choice but to pass. People thought me foolish to risk it but I knew I could handle it. That's the real question here - do you KNOW you can handle it? If this answer is yes then enjoy. If there is any doubt or anxiety you may want to wait. Day one would be crushing knowing that you put yourself to the test and failed. On the other hand, blowing through the night without tobacco will feel so fucking good that you will feed off of it and continue to grow stronger in your quit everyday. For me, I fed off of every little success I had - every little milestone. All of them made my quit a little more secure. I believe in being aggressive and owning the quit. If you own it, you can do whatever you want. Don't forget to post roll the day you plan on drinking - if you do that and you take roll as the sacred oath that it is, then you'll be golden. Posting roll supersedes any challenge or obstacle including alcohol if you believe with your whole being in it (like I do). No excuse is good enough if you posted roll that day. If you have that mentality you can't lose. And you sure as hell can't cave.
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I see lots of sound advice from quitters that I respect in this thread in regards to drinking. Generally speaking, I agree that drinking puts a quit in danger be it at day 30, 300, or 3000. The reason is because alcohol impairs judgement. Now having said that, I believe wholeheartedly in the theory of "nic is still controlling my life if I can't have a drink (or whatever) when I want it". I made a similar post as you have early into my quit - the first week I believe - and I caught a lot of flak for it. Of course I didn't cave because I posted roll that day and I was ready to tackle it head on. I looked at it as a test of sorts that I had no choice but to pass. People thought me foolish to risk it but I knew I could handle it. That's the real question here - do you KNOW you can handle it? If this answer is yes then enjoy. If there is any doubt or anxiety you may want to wait. Day one would be crushing knowing that you put yourself to the test and failed. On the other hand, blowing through the night without tobacco will feel so fucking good that you will feed off of it and continue to grow stronger in your quit everyday. For me, I fed off of every little success I had - every little milestone. All of them made my quit a little more secure. I believe in being aggressive and owning the quit. If you own it, you can do whatever you want. Don't forget to post roll the day you plan on drinking - if you do that and you take roll as the sacred oath that it is, then you'll be golden. Posting roll supersedes any challenge or obstacle including alcohol if you believe with your whole being in it (like I do). No excuse is good enough if you posted roll that day. If you have that mentality you can't lose. And you sure as hell can't cave.
I always follow the immortal words of John "Bluto" Blutarsky: "My advice to you is to start drinking heavily."
Good discussion here on this topic and advice from both sides. Bottom line is everything you do during your quit is your call. This is your quit and you own it. I chose to not and that worked for me.
Whatever you do this weekend... Post roll and stay quit. Keep the quit you have fought for already. Don't give in. You do that and all is good in the world.
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You will know when you are ready. I don't think this early is that time but that is just my 2 pennies. I drank where you are and it made the craves flow like a raging river. Until I went to sleep. So when I say it is not a goo idea, yes, I have been there.
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I don't want other quitters jumping into using alcohol right away after reading this intro post. I want you to remember that I thought about last night for 30 straight days. I prepared myself for this day for a long time. It definitely effected the outcome.
Last night I walked into the bar and ordered a beer. It had been 30 days since having a sip of alcohol. The last time I had a beer, my taste buds were shot to shit from dip and cigarettes. I had the best sip of beer last night in over ten years. The taste was fantastic and something I did not remember. I drank the first beer and the following 5 like they had a nipple on it. I guarded my quit almost too cautiously. I refused to allow myself to pack anything more than a buzz in fear that I would hinder my resolve. I was so excited when I got home. I posted roll for the following day and exchanged texts with some quitters. I am using last night as a stepping stone. This is all a work in progress and I refuse to let my guard down. Day 28 today. One month. Thank you everyone. out
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I don't want other quitters jumping into using alcohol right away after reading this intro post. I want you to remember that I thought about last night for 30 straight days. I prepared myself for this day for a long time. It definitely effected the outcome.
Last night I walked into the bar and ordered a beer. It had been 30 days since having a sip of alcohol. The last time I had a beer, my taste buds were shot to shit from dip and cigarettes. I had the best sip of beer last night in over ten years. The taste was fantastic and something I did not remember. I drank the first beer and the following 5 like they had a nipple on it. I guarded my quit almost too cautiously. I refused to allow myself to pack anything more than a buzz in fear that I would hinder my resolve. I was so excited when I got home. I posted roll for the following day and exchanged texts with some quitters. I am using last night as a stepping stone. This is all a work in progress and I refuse to let my guard down. Day 28 today. One month. Thank you everyone. out
Cheers bro. You protect that quit like that, and you will never regret a beer or 5.
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If you're able to enjoy a beer, or several, have at it. The fact that it's even more enjoyable now that your taste buds aren't being destroyed by dip is awesome!
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Well done, you seem to have taken the advice well. Congrats and you are spot on beer is much better when full flavored.
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I don't want other quitters jumping into using alcohol right away after reading this intro post. I want you to remember that I thought about last night for 30 straight days. I prepared myself for this day for a long time. It definitely effected the outcome.
Last night I walked into the bar and ordered a beer. It had been 30 days since having a sip of alcohol. The last time I had a beer, my taste buds were shot to shit from dip and cigarettes. I had the best sip of beer last night in over ten years. The taste was fantastic and something I did not remember. I drank the first beer and the following 5 like they had a nipple on it. I guarded my quit almost too cautiously. I refused to allow myself to pack anything more than a buzz in fear that I would hinder my resolve. I was so excited when I got home. I posted roll for the following day and exchanged texts with some quitters. I am using last night as a stepping stone. This is all a work in progress and I refuse to let my guard down. Day 28 today. One month. Thank you everyone. out
Cheers bro. You protect that quit like that, and you will never regret a beer or 5.
Nice way to own your quit. Show that NB the door!
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I don't want other quitters jumping into using alcohol right away after reading this intro post. I want you to remember that I thought about last night for 30 straight days. I prepared myself for this day for a long time. It definitely effected the outcome.
Last night I walked into the bar and ordered a beer. It had been 30 days since having a sip of alcohol. The last time I had a beer, my taste buds were shot to shit from dip and cigarettes. I had the best sip of beer last night in over ten years. The taste was fantastic and something I did not remember. I drank the first beer and the following 5 like they had a nipple on it. I guarded my quit almost too cautiously. I refused to allow myself to pack anything more than a buzz in fear that I would hinder my resolve. I was so excited when I got home. I posted roll for the following day and exchanged texts with some quitters. I am using last night as a stepping stone. This is all a work in progress and I refuse to let my guard down. Day 28 today. One month. Thank you everyone. out
Cheers bro. You protect that quit like that, and you will never regret a beer or 5.
Nice way to own your quit. Show that NB the door!
Good news bro. I'm glad it worked out.
Way to go bro.
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I don't want other quitters jumping into using alcohol right away after reading this intro post. I want you to remember that I thought about last night for 30 straight days. I prepared myself for this day for a long time. It definitely effected the outcome.
Last night I walked into the bar and ordered a beer. It had been 30 days since having a sip of alcohol. The last time I had a beer, my taste buds were shot to shit from dip and cigarettes. I had the best sip of beer last night in over ten years. The taste was fantastic and something I did not remember. I drank the first beer and the following 5 like they had a nipple on it. I guarded my quit almost too cautiously. I refused to allow myself to pack anything more than a buzz in fear that I would hinder my resolve. I was so excited when I got home. I posted roll for the following day and exchanged texts with some quitters. I am using last night as a stepping stone. This is all a work in progress and I refuse to let my guard down. Day 28 today. One month. Thank you everyone. out
Cheers bro. You protect that quit like that, and you will never regret a beer or 5.
Nice way to own your quit. Show that NB the door!
Good news bro. I'm glad it worked out.
Way to go bro.
congrats on making it through...glad you had a good time without the nic bitch.
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I don't want other quitters jumping into using alcohol right away after reading this intro post. I want you to remember that I thought about last night for 30 straight days. I prepared myself for this day for a long time. It definitely effected the outcome.
Last night I walked into the bar and ordered a beer. It had been 30 days since having a sip of alcohol. The last time I had a beer, my taste buds were shot to shit from dip and cigarettes. I had the best sip of beer last night in over ten years. The taste was fantastic and something I did not remember. I drank the first beer and the following 5 like they had a nipple on it. I guarded my quit almost too cautiously. I refused to allow myself to pack anything more than a buzz in fear that I would hinder my resolve. I was so excited when I got home. I posted roll for the following day and exchanged texts with some quitters. I am using last night as a stepping stone. This is all a work in progress and I refuse to let my guard down. Day 28 today. One month. Thank you everyone. out
Cheers bro. You protect that quit like that, and you will never regret a beer or 5.
Nice way to own your quit. Show that NB the door!
Good news bro. I'm glad it worked out.
Way to go bro.
congrats on making it through...glad you had a good time without the nic bitch.
Props 6r
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I don't want other quitters jumping into using alcohol right away after reading this intro post. I want you to remember that I thought about last night for 30 straight days. I prepared myself for this day for a long time. It definitely effected the outcome.
Last night I walked into the bar and ordered a beer. It had been 30 days since having a sip of alcohol. The last time I had a beer, my taste buds were shot to shit from dip and cigarettes. I had the best sip of beer last night in over ten years. The taste was fantastic and something I did not remember. I drank the first beer and the following 5 like they had a nipple on it. I guarded my quit almost too cautiously. I refused to allow myself to pack anything more than a buzz in fear that I would hinder my resolve. I was so excited when I got home. I posted roll for the following day and exchanged texts with some quitters. I am using last night as a stepping stone. This is all a work in progress and I refuse to let my guard down. Day 28 today. One month. Thank you everyone. out
Cheers bro. You protect that quit like that, and you will never regret a beer or 5.
Nice way to own your quit. Show that NB the door!
Good news bro. I'm glad it worked out.
Way to go bro.
congrats on making it through...glad you had a good time without the nic bitch.
Props 6r
Looks like you are taking the road to freedom and have the right mindset. Nice resolve.
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(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head. None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip. Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away. I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years. Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc. I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today. I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take. I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program. It is a fact! Done wasting energy on you.
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(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head. None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip. Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away. I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years. Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc. I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today. I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take. I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program. It is a fact! Done wasting energy on you.
Sixer... Breathe. Breathe.
We say it will get better because we are asking you to trust us. There is no magical day this will happen. It just will. It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't. These words are so true.
The most important thing you can do right now is just worry about TODAY and staying quit TODAY. You can do this. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Remember this. You are 39 days quit. You are winning. You are owning your quit. You are not a slave today. Keep at it!
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(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head. None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip. Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away. I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years. Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc. I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today. I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take. I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program. It is a fact! Done wasting energy on you.
Sixer... Breathe. Breathe.
We say it will get better because we are asking you to trust us. There is no magical day this will happen. It just will. It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't. These words are so true.
The most important thing you can do right now is just worry about TODAY and staying quit TODAY. You can do this. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Remember this. You are 39 days quit. You are winning. You are owning your quit. You are not a slave today. Keep at it!
Listen to Derk, sixer. 39 days is a mere blip. You poisoned yourself for how many years? It will get better!!! I'm day 162 after 23 years of poisoning myself and feeling pretty damn good. It didn't happen overnight but I feel 100 times better than I did on day 39. Keep quittin badass style.
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(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head. None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip. Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away. I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years. Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc. I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today. I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take. I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program. It is a fact! Done wasting energy on you.
Sixer... Breathe. Breathe.
We say it will get better because we are asking you to trust us. There is no magical day this will happen. It just will. It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't. These words are so true.
The most important thing you can do right now is just worry about TODAY and staying quit TODAY. You can do this. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Remember this. You are 39 days quit. You are winning. You are owning your quit. You are not a slave today. Keep at it!
Listen to Derk, sixer. 39 days is a mere blip. You poisoned yourself for how many years? It will get better!!! I'm day 162 after 23 years of poisoning myself and feeling pretty damn good. It didn't happen overnight but I feel 100 times better than I did on day 39. Keep quittin badass style.
Because you came on here and posted this means you are winning. The Nic Bitch is crafty and her sultry words seem to be bouncing off of you. I remember during some of my "stops" before that I would hear those same words that you are thinking. I began to gain weight and actually convinced myself that if dipping kept me from getting heart disease that it was worth it. WTF was I thinking? Yes quitting is hard as hell but in the end it is so damn worth it. I am only 3 days ahead of you and still get the "urge" every now and then. Is will get easier. Each persons reaction is different. Stay strong and you will overcome these feelings. Keep it one day at a time and the main person you need to worry about is YOU.
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(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head. None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip. Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away. I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years. Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc. I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today. I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take. I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program. It is a fact! Done wasting energy on you.
Sixer... Breathe. Breathe.
We say it will get better because we are asking you to trust us. There is no magical day this will happen. It just will. It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't. These words are so true.
The most important thing you can do right now is just worry about TODAY and staying quit TODAY. You can do this. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Remember this. You are 39 days quit. You are winning. You are owning your quit. You are not a slave today. Keep at it!
Listen to Derk, sixer. 39 days is a mere blip. You poisoned yourself for how many years? It will get better!!! I'm day 162 after 23 years of poisoning myself and feeling pretty damn good. It didn't happen overnight but I feel 100 times better than I did on day 39. Keep quittin badass style.
Because you came on here and posted this means you are winning. The Nic Bitch is crafty and her sultry words seem to be bouncing off of you. I remember during some of my "stops" before that I would hear those same words that you are thinking. I began to gain weight and actually convinced myself that if dipping kept me from getting heart disease that it was worth it. WTF was I thinking? Yes quitting is hard as hell but in the end it is so damn worth it. I am only 3 days ahead of you and still get the "urge" every now and then. Is will get easier. Each persons reaction is different. Stay strong and you will overcome these feelings. Keep it one day at a time and the main person you need to worry about is YOU.
That a boy 6r! Barf that shit out of your head. You are winning. Keep drinking the Kool-aid. It is already better...the nic bitch just keeps telling you that it isn't. You are 39 days quit! That is huge!
Just mind games dude.
PM me if you need anything and keep using this to rant, if you need!
Quit on.
-
(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head.� None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip.� Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away.� I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years.� Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc.� I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today.� I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take.� I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program.� It is a fact!� Done wasting energy on you.
Sixer... Breathe. Breathe.
We say it will get better because we are asking you to trust us. There is no magical day this will happen. It just will. It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't. These words are so true.
The most important thing you can do right now is just worry about TODAY and staying quit TODAY. You can do this. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Remember this. You are 39 days quit. You are winning. You are owning your quit. You are not a slave today. Keep at it!
Listen to Derk, sixer. 39 days is a mere blip. You poisoned yourself for how many years? It will get better!!! I'm day 162 after 23 years of poisoning myself and feeling pretty damn good. It didn't happen overnight but I feel 100 times better than I did on day 39. Keep quittin badass style.
Because you came on here and posted this means you are winning. The Nic Bitch is crafty and her sultry words seem to be bouncing off of you. I remember during some of my "stops" before that I would hear those same words that you are thinking. I began to gain weight and actually convinced myself that if dipping kept me from getting heart disease that it was worth it. WTF was I thinking? Yes quitting is hard as hell but in the end it is so damn worth it. I am only 3 days ahead of you and still get the "urge" every now and then. Is will get easier. Each persons reaction is different. Stay strong and you will overcome these feelings. Keep it one day at a time and the main person you need to worry about is YOU.
That a boy 6r! Barf that shit out of your head. You are winning. Keep drinking the Kool-aid. It is already better...the nic bitch just keeps telling you that it isn't. You are 39 days quit! That is huge!
Just mind games dude.
PM me if you need anything and keep using this to rant, if you need!
Quit on.
Great job sixer. That first funk sucks. I remember thinking,, what is going on? I've never experienced anxiety and depression until quitting. It gave me a whole new perspective on life. Now I know a little of what people with depression and anxiety go through. My wife actually deals with anxiety regularly. Now I'm able to help her through it with a little more of an understanding of what she's going through.
It will pass sixer. You'll go through these once in a while. They will become few and farther between as your quit becomes stronger. Your doing it man. Keep racking up them days. ODAAT and NAFAR
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(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head.� None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip.� Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away.� I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years.� Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc.� I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today.� I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take.� I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program.� It is a fact!� Done wasting energy on you.
Sixer... Breathe. Breathe.
We say it will get better because we are asking you to trust us. There is no magical day this will happen. It just will. It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't. These words are so true.
The most important thing you can do right now is just worry about TODAY and staying quit TODAY. You can do this. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Remember this. You are 39 days quit. You are winning. You are owning your quit. You are not a slave today. Keep at it!
Listen to Derk, sixer. 39 days is a mere blip. You poisoned yourself for how many years? It will get better!!! I'm day 162 after 23 years of poisoning myself and feeling pretty damn good. It didn't happen overnight but I feel 100 times better than I did on day 39. Keep quittin badass style.
Because you came on here and posted this means you are winning. The Nic Bitch is crafty and her sultry words seem to be bouncing off of you. I remember during some of my "stops" before that I would hear those same words that you are thinking. I began to gain weight and actually convinced myself that if dipping kept me from getting heart disease that it was worth it. WTF was I thinking? Yes quitting is hard as hell but in the end it is so damn worth it. I am only 3 days ahead of you and still get the "urge" every now and then. Is will get easier. Each persons reaction is different. Stay strong and you will overcome these feelings. Keep it one day at a time and the main person you need to worry about is YOU.
That a boy 6r! Barf that shit out of your head. You are winning. Keep drinking the Kool-aid. It is already better...the nic bitch just keeps telling you that it isn't. You are 39 days quit! That is huge!
Just mind games dude.
PM me if you need anything and keep using this to rant, if you need!
Quit on.
Great job sixer. That first funk sucks. I remember thinking,, what is going on? I've never experienced anxiety and depression until quitting. It gave me a whole new perspective on life. Now I know a little of what people with depression and anxiety go through. My wife actually deals with anxiety regularly. Now I'm able to help her through it with a little more of an understanding of what she's going through.
It will pass sixer. You'll go through these once in a while. They will become few and farther between as your quit becomes stronger. Your doing it man. Keep racking up them days. ODAAT and NAFAR
I totally agree with everything said ^^^^. I know I have heard some guys discuss and read some articles on here that acknowledge that funks are one thing and clinical anxiety and depression are another. I have gone through some funks in the last few months for sure, but I have had a sense of improvement (only incremental for the first month or so). If you are not feeling any relief, please consider confiding in your personal doctor. There is no shame in seeking medical help. Sometimes we need some help to get over rough spots in our lives, and a lot of times the help is only needed for a short period of time. I think Diesel (I apologize if I am incorrect) has posted openly on this topic and his own experience. Perhaps seek this brother out on this matter. YOU SHOULD BE CONFIDENT THAT YOU ARE WINNING!
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(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head.� None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip.� Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away.� I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years.� Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc.� I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today.� I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take.� I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program.� It is a fact!� Done wasting energy on you.
Sixer... Breathe. Breathe.
We say it will get better because we are asking you to trust us. There is no magical day this will happen. It just will. It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't. These words are so true.
The most important thing you can do right now is just worry about TODAY and staying quit TODAY. You can do this. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Remember this. You are 39 days quit. You are winning. You are owning your quit. You are not a slave today. Keep at it!
Listen to Derk, sixer. 39 days is a mere blip. You poisoned yourself for how many years? It will get better!!! I'm day 162 after 23 years of poisoning myself and feeling pretty damn good. It didn't happen overnight but I feel 100 times better than I did on day 39. Keep quittin badass style.
Because you came on here and posted this means you are winning. The Nic Bitch is crafty and her sultry words seem to be bouncing off of you. I remember during some of my "stops" before that I would hear those same words that you are thinking. I began to gain weight and actually convinced myself that if dipping kept me from getting heart disease that it was worth it. WTF was I thinking? Yes quitting is hard as hell but in the end it is so damn worth it. I am only 3 days ahead of you and still get the "urge" every now and then. Is will get easier. Each persons reaction is different. Stay strong and you will overcome these feelings. Keep it one day at a time and the main person you need to worry about is YOU.
That a boy 6r! Barf that shit out of your head. You are winning. Keep drinking the Kool-aid. It is already better...the nic bitch just keeps telling you that it isn't. You are 39 days quit! That is huge!
Just mind games dude.
PM me if you need anything and keep using this to rant, if you need!
Quit on.
Great job sixer. That first funk sucks. I remember thinking,, what is going on? I've never experienced anxiety and depression until quitting. It gave me a whole new perspective on life. Now I know a little of what people with depression and anxiety go through. My wife actually deals with anxiety regularly. Now I'm able to help her through it with a little more of an understanding of what she's going through.
It will pass sixer. You'll go through these once in a while. They will become few and farther between as your quit becomes stronger. Your doing it man. Keep racking up them days. ODAAT and NAFAR
I totally agree with everything said ^^^^. I know I have heard some guys discuss and read some articles on here that acknowledge that funks are one thing and clinical anxiety and depression are another. I have gone through some funks in the last few months for sure, but I have had a sense of improvement (only incremental for the first month or so). If you are not feeling any relief, please consider confiding in your personal doctor. There is no shame in seeking medical help. Sometimes we need some help to get over rough spots in our lives, and a lot of times the help is only needed for a short period of time. I think Diesel (I apologize if I am incorrect) has posted openly on this topic and his own experience. Perhaps seek this brother out on this matter. YOU SHOULD BE CONFIDENT THAT YOU ARE WINNING!
Congrats on another victory, Sixer. Thank you for being so open and honest about what you are going through. I'm proud to be quit with you today, brother.
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(Disclaimer: I recognize that everything I am about to say is not my true thoughts and just addict speak. I am not blaming anyone for the position I have placed myself. It is all my doing.)
Today is 39 days. Another funk is upon me. The funks seem to last 4-5 days and I am only on day 3. I have a lot of thoughts running through my head.� None of these thoughts and urges have been strong enough to put me inside a car on my way to buy a tin of dip.� Here is goes with some of the ridiculous things I have been thinking:
"All these fuckers have said it gets easier. This is all I hear over and over again. It does not get easier!!! On the 39th day it has consumed my thoughts. I have thought that I am just meant to die earlier than others, if dip actually causes death like many say. I would rather live another 20 years happily than 40 miserable because these urges do not seem like they will ever go away.� I am only 33 years old. These people on this site are much older than me and have been dipping many more years.� Even if I dipped and continued to dip, I still have many years to catch up to many people that I know. I can afford to still dip for a few more years until I am ready to quit. I am sick of seeds, gum, chatrooms, forums, typing the url for this fuckin website, fighting back against this bullshit every day, etc.� I am sick of going to the gym, doing pushups, going running, and every other stress reliever/mind occupier that I have tried over the past 5 weeks. I am fuckin tired of everything."
I am sitting here gathering the thoughts I have collected throughout the day today.� I actually can say most days are easier. I can also say that no one knows when their time is up. The next dip could be the end for me or it could take 20 years. This is not a chance I am willing to take.� I have heard the "slave" thing over and over but never fully understood it until now. For 39 days, I have not given in for 3 reasons. 1) The site and the people I have became friends with that I have made promises to 2) myself 3) I do not want to be a slave. I know if i were to go back, I would just be prolonging the never ending feeling of craving that next dip and being a whore to that pimp nic......I need to get it together and do it quick. Maybe I feel this way because I am having a pity party for myself and feeling bad for how I feel, I dont know. I do know I am stronger than I am acting and need to man up.
I am sorry for some of my language in the forums but some of these weak ass quitters (very few) just piss me the fuck off. I have no time for them. They say, "take what you want from the site, leave the rest". I am leaving these people that think this shit is a joke and I am taking the rest of you. I will save 1 WG, wedge KO, PP, SLUG, West, Bronc, Brad, Tls, Lk, Maino, Braves, 224, sport, bird, mark, and the rest of you fuckers that I forgot over 10 of you soft ass excuse making cavers. You will be here for another 20 days or 110 days but you will cave again unless you buy in to the program.� It is a fact!� Done wasting energy on you.
Sixer... Breathe. Breathe.
We say it will get better because we are asking you to trust us. There is no magical day this will happen. It just will. It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't. These words are so true.
The most important thing you can do right now is just worry about TODAY and staying quit TODAY. You can do this. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Remember this. You are 39 days quit. You are winning. You are owning your quit. You are not a slave today. Keep at it!
Listen to Derk, sixer. 39 days is a mere blip. You poisoned yourself for how many years? It will get better!!! I'm day 162 after 23 years of poisoning myself and feeling pretty damn good. It didn't happen overnight but I feel 100 times better than I did on day 39. Keep quittin badass style.
Because you came on here and posted this means you are winning. The Nic Bitch is crafty and her sultry words seem to be bouncing off of you. I remember during some of my "stops" before that I would hear those same words that you are thinking. I began to gain weight and actually convinced myself that if dipping kept me from getting heart disease that it was worth it. WTF was I thinking? Yes quitting is hard as hell but in the end it is so damn worth it. I am only 3 days ahead of you and still get the "urge" every now and then. Is will get easier. Each persons reaction is different. Stay strong and you will overcome these feelings. Keep it one day at a time and the main person you need to worry about is YOU.
That a boy 6r! Barf that shit out of your head. You are winning. Keep drinking the Kool-aid. It is already better...the nic bitch just keeps telling you that it isn't. You are 39 days quit! That is huge!
Just mind games dude.
PM me if you need anything and keep using this to rant, if you need!
Quit on.
Great job sixer. That first funk sucks. I remember thinking,, what is going on? I've never experienced anxiety and depression until quitting. It gave me a whole new perspective on life. Now I know a little of what people with depression and anxiety go through. My wife actually deals with anxiety regularly. Now I'm able to help her through it with a little more of an understanding of what she's going through.
It will pass sixer. You'll go through these once in a while. They will become few and farther between as your quit becomes stronger. Your doing it man. Keep racking up them days. ODAAT and NAFAR
I totally agree with everything said ^^^^. I know I have heard some guys discuss and read some articles on here that acknowledge that funks are one thing and clinical anxiety and depression are another. I have gone through some funks in the last few months for sure, but I have had a sense of improvement (only incremental for the first month or so). If you are not feeling any relief, please consider confiding in your personal doctor. There is no shame in seeking medical help. Sometimes we need some help to get over rough spots in our lives, and a lot of times the help is only needed for a short period of time. I think Diesel (I apologize if I am incorrect) has posted openly on this topic and his own experience. Perhaps seek this brother out on this matter. YOU SHOULD BE CONFIDENT THAT YOU ARE WINNING!
Congrats on another victory, Sixer. Thank you for being so open and honest about what you are going through. I'm proud to be quit with you today, brother.
Keep hanging in there and chalking up these victories. It does get better. I remember wondering if it ever really would. I had some pretty fierce fogs and funks in my double digit days for sure. Luckily some other guys posted on my thread that they had similar times. You know, when you get thru something hard like you keep doing, each one is a lesson you teach the addiction- no more nicotine in that situation. You are retraining your mind and it takes work because the addiction really is entrenched. Feels so good when things start clicking at times tho, you won't believe how good freedom is gonna feel. Keep it up, you're doing it right. Keep recording here for yourself later too, but it also helps others. Read others stories too and you see pieces of your own quit all over.
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It has now been 3 days of constant thoughts about dip. I have no idea what to do. I feel sick and mentally drained. I know I made a promise today but I do not
Know how much further beyond today I can do this. I know a dip will not help and it will be back to being a slave. I also know however that one dip may give me the ten minutes of
Mental normalcy I have been searching for for three days and beyond. I know the things I am saying sound "trollish" and blasphemous, but I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless and pissed off and tired. I'm out.
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It has now been 3 days of constant thoughts about dip. I have no idea what to do. I feel sick and mentally drained. I know I made a promise today but I do not
Know how much further beyond today I can do this. I know a dip will not help and it will be back to being a slave. I also know however that one dip may give me the ten minutes of
Mental normalcy I have been searching for for three days and beyond. I know the things I am saying sound "trollish" and blasphemous, but I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless and pissed off and tired. I'm out.
Bro keep it up. Fuck tobacco it won't do shit for you but this.. http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_ht ... neck-2.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_html/jaw_tongue_neck-2.htm)
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It has now been 3 days of constant thoughts about dip. I have no idea what to do. I feel sick and mentally drained. I know I made a promise today but I do not
Know how much further beyond today I can do this. I know a dip will not help and it will be back to being a slave. I also know however that one dip may give me the ten minutes of
Mental normalcy I have been searching for for three days and beyond. I know the things I am saying sound "trollish" and blasphemous, but I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless and pissed off and tired. I'm out.
Bro keep it up. Fuck tobacco it won't do shit for you but this.. http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_ht ... neck-2.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_html/jaw_tongue_neck-2.htm)
Hey sixer. Get on the phone and call your brothers. Text, talk, whatever you have to do. One thing for sure tho, you better find a way to believe you are better than addiction or the bitch will own you for a long time. You are worth more brother
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It has now been 3 days of constant thoughts about dip. I have no idea what to do. I feel sick and mentally drained. I know I made a promise today but I do not
Know how much further beyond today I can do this. I know a dip will not help and it will be back to being a slave. I also know however that one dip may give me the ten minutes of
Mental normalcy I have been searching for for three days and beyond. I know the things I am saying sound "trollish" and blasphemous, but I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless and pissed off and tired. I'm out.
Bro keep it up. Fuck tobacco it won't do shit for you but this.. http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_ht ... neck-2.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_html/jaw_tongue_neck-2.htm)
Hey sixer. Get on the phone and call your brothers. Text, talk, whatever you have to do. One thing for sure tho, you better find a way to believe you are better than addiction or the bitch will own you for a long time. You are worth more brother
Just, posted this for mcgregor. Good post for you as well. These days will not last forever. The new you will be one bad dude. The new you will not be :( . The new you will be proud of what he's accomplished. The new you will get through a day without giving the poison a second thought. This is well worth it. You got my word on that.
Right now you are making your way to a door. This door is hard to get to and open. Settle in, keep your head pointed forward and make your way to the door. You will get there one day at a time and you will love what's on the other side. Keep your chin up and :( will turn to :D .
Beautiful day to be free my friend. If you made it 3 you can damn sure make it 4. I recommend a steak and ice cream on this fine Saturday evening.
Sixer, if you need to go get some fake, fireballs or whatever you need. There is 1000's here that have done this and your no different. You keep that word bro. I don't care how bad it gets for i don't care how long. You keep that word. This is the frame of mind you need.
Start reading everything you can on addiction/nicotine. Lot of information on this site. Time to begin building that arsenal with knowledge and accountability. How bad do you want this? No more talk of cave. YOU TOOK CAVE OFF THE TABLE WHEN YOU POSTED ROLL! KEEP YOUR WORD!
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It has now been 3 days of constant thoughts about dip. I have no idea what to do. I feel sick and mentally drained. I know I made a promise today but I do not
Know how much further beyond today I can do this. I know a dip will not help and it will be back to being a slave. I also know however that one dip may give me the ten minutes of
Mental normalcy I have been searching for for three days and beyond. I know the things I am saying sound "trollish" and blasphemous, but I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless and pissed off and tired. I'm out.
Bro keep it up. Fuck tobacco it won't do shit for you but this.. http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_ht ... neck-2.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_html/jaw_tongue_neck-2.htm)
Hey sixer. Get on the phone and call your brothers. Text, talk, whatever you have to do. One thing for sure tho, you better find a way to believe you are better than addiction or the bitch will own you for a long time. You are worth more brother
Just, posted this for mcgregor. Good post for you as well. These days will not last forever. The new you will be one bad dude. The new you will not be :( . The new you will be proud of what he's accomplished. The new you will get through a day without giving the poison a second thought. This is well worth it. You got my word on that.
Right now you are making your way to a door. This door is hard to get to and open. Settle in, keep your head pointed forward and make your way to the door. You will get there one day at a time and you will love what's on the other side. Keep your chin up and :( will turn to :D .
Beautiful day to be free my friend. If you made it 3 you can damn sure make it 4. I recommend a steak and ice cream on this fine Saturday evening.
Sixer, if you need to go get some fake, fireballs or whatever you need. There is 1000's here that have done this and your no different. You keep that word bro. I don't care how bad it gets for i don't care how long. You keep that word. This is the frame of mind you need.
Start reading everything you can on addiction/nicotine. Lot of information on this site. Time to begin building that arsenal with knowledge and accountability. How bad do you want this? No more talk of cave. YOU TOOK CAVE OFF THE TABLE WHEN YOU POSTED ROLL! KEEP YOUR WORD!
Hey Sixer, you've come to far to crack now. You keep your head down and plow through this. I'm quitting with you today. You have my number.
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It has now been 3 days of constant thoughts about dip. I have no idea what to do. I feel sick and mentally drained. I know I made a promise today but I do not
Know how much further beyond today I can do this. I know a dip will not help and it will be back to being a slave. I also know however that one dip may give me the ten minutes of
Mental normalcy I have been searching for for three days and beyond. I know the things I am saying sound "trollish" and blasphemous, but I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless and pissed off and tired. I'm out.
Bro keep it up. Fuck tobacco it won't do shit for you but this.. http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_ht ... neck-2.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_html/jaw_tongue_neck-2.htm)
Hey sixer. Get on the phone and call your brothers. Text, talk, whatever you have to do. One thing for sure tho, you better find a way to believe you are better than addiction or the bitch will own you for a long time. You are worth more brother
Just, posted this for mcgregor. Good post for you as well. These days will not last forever. The new you will be one bad dude. The new you will not be :( . The new you will be proud of what he's accomplished. The new you will get through a day without giving the poison a second thought. This is well worth it. You got my word on that.
Right now you are making your way to a door. This door is hard to get to and open. Settle in, keep your head pointed forward and make your way to the door. You will get there one day at a time and you will love what's on the other side. Keep your chin up and :( will turn to :D .
Beautiful day to be free my friend. If you made it 3 you can damn sure make it 4. I recommend a steak and ice cream on this fine Saturday evening.
Sixer, if you need to go get some fake, fireballs or whatever you need. There is 1000's here that have done this and your no different. You keep that word bro. I don't care how bad it gets for i don't care how long. You keep that word. This is the frame of mind you need.
Start reading everything you can on addiction/nicotine. Lot of information on this site. Time to begin building that arsenal with knowledge and accountability. How bad do you want this? No more talk of cave. YOU TOOK CAVE OFF THE TABLE WHEN YOU POSTED ROLL! KEEP YOUR WORD!
Hey Sixer, you've come to far to crack now. You keep your head down and plow through this. I'm quitting with you today. You have my number.
One day at a time Sixer. One day at a time.
Yesterday is over. Tomorrow we can't control. But today you are winning. What you are experiencing, unfortunately, is part of the fight. Remember "no pain no gain?" Well, you've experienced quite a bit of pain as a result of the addiction since you quit. The memories of the bullshit you have experienced should fuel some hatred and build resolve that you'll never have to relive this.
If some weak ass like me ( or mogul haha ) can make it one day at a time, you sure as hell can.
If I can help let me know. You've got some bad asses cheering you on. Don't try to do this alone, brother. There is no need for that.
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It has now been 3 days of constant thoughts about dip. I have no idea what to do. I feel sick and mentally drained. I know I made a promise today but I do not
Know how much further beyond today I can do this. I know a dip will not help and it will be back to being a slave. I also know however that one dip may give me the ten minutes of
Mental normalcy I have been searching for for three days and beyond. I know the things I am saying sound "trollish" and blasphemous, but I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless and pissed off and tired. I'm out.
Bro keep it up. Fuck tobacco it won't do shit for you but this.. http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_ht ... neck-2.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_html/jaw_tongue_neck-2.htm)
Hey sixer. Get on the phone and call your brothers. Text, talk, whatever you have to do. One thing for sure tho, you better find a way to believe you are better than addiction or the bitch will own you for a long time. You are worth more brother
Just, posted this for mcgregor. Good post for you as well. These days will not last forever. The new you will be one bad dude. The new you will not be :( . The new you will be proud of what he's accomplished. The new you will get through a day without giving the poison a second thought. This is well worth it. You got my word on that.
Right now you are making your way to a door. This door is hard to get to and open. Settle in, keep your head pointed forward and make your way to the door. You will get there one day at a time and you will love what's on the other side. Keep your chin up and :( will turn to :D .
Beautiful day to be free my friend. If you made it 3 you can damn sure make it 4. I recommend a steak and ice cream on this fine Saturday evening.
Sixer, if you need to go get some fake, fireballs or whatever you need. There is 1000's here that have done this and your no different. You keep that word bro. I don't care how bad it gets for i don't care how long. You keep that word. This is the frame of mind you need.
Start reading everything you can on addiction/nicotine. Lot of information on this site. Time to begin building that arsenal with knowledge and accountability. How bad do you want this? No more talk of cave. YOU TOOK CAVE OFF THE TABLE WHEN YOU POSTED ROLL! KEEP YOUR WORD!
Hey Sixer, you've come to far to crack now. You keep your head down and plow through this. I'm quitting with you today. You have my number.
One day at a time Sixer. One day at a time.
Yesterday is over. Tomorrow we can't control. But today you are winning. What you are experiencing, unfortunately, is part of the fight. Remember "no pain no gain?" Well, you've experienced quite a bit of pain as a result of the addiction since you quit. The memories of the bullshit you have experienced should fuel some hatred and build resolve that you'll never have to relive this.
If some weak ass like me ( or mogul haha ) can make it one day at a time, you sure as hell can.
If I can help let me know. You've got some bad asses cheering you on. Don't try to do this alone, brother. There is no need for that.
Like worktowin said. ODAAT. The past 3 days dont really mean crap. Just today bro.
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It has now been 3 days of constant thoughts about dip. I have no idea what to do. I feel sick and mentally drained. I know I made a promise today but I do not
Know how much further beyond today I can do this. I know a dip will not help and it will be back to being a slave. I also know however that one dip may give me the ten minutes of
Mental normalcy I have been searching for for three days and beyond. I know the things I am saying sound "trollish" and blasphemous, but I don't know what to do. I feel hopeless and pissed off and tired. I'm out.
Bro keep it up. Fuck tobacco it won't do shit for you but this.. http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_ht ... neck-2.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/images_html/jaw_tongue_neck-2.htm)
Hey sixer. Get on the phone and call your brothers. Text, talk, whatever you have to do. One thing for sure tho, you better find a way to believe you are better than addiction or the bitch will own you for a long time. You are worth more brother
Just, posted this for mcgregor. Good post for you as well. These days will not last forever. The new you will be one bad dude. The new you will not be :( . The new you will be proud of what he's accomplished. The new you will get through a day without giving the poison a second thought. This is well worth it. You got my word on that.
Right now you are making your way to a door. This door is hard to get to and open. Settle in, keep your head pointed forward and make your way to the door. You will get there one day at a time and you will love what's on the other side. Keep your chin up and :( will turn to :D .
Beautiful day to be free my friend. If you made it 3 you can damn sure make it 4. I recommend a steak and ice cream on this fine Saturday evening.
Sixer, if you need to go get some fake, fireballs or whatever you need. There is 1000's here that have done this and your no different. You keep that word bro. I don't care how bad it gets for i don't care how long. You keep that word. This is the frame of mind you need.
Start reading everything you can on addiction/nicotine. Lot of information on this site. Time to begin building that arsenal with knowledge and accountability. How bad do you want this? No more talk of cave. YOU TOOK CAVE OFF THE TABLE WHEN YOU POSTED ROLL! KEEP YOUR WORD!
Hey Sixer, you've come to far to crack now. You keep your head down and plow through this. I'm quitting with you today. You have my number.
One day at a time Sixer. One day at a time.
Yesterday is over. Tomorrow we can't control. But today you are winning. What you are experiencing, unfortunately, is part of the fight. Remember "no pain no gain?" Well, you've experienced quite a bit of pain as a result of the addiction since you quit. The memories of the bullshit you have experienced should fuel some hatred and build resolve that you'll never have to relive this.
If some weak ass like me ( or mogul haha ) can make it one day at a time, you sure as hell can.
If I can help let me know. You've got some bad asses cheering you on. Don't try to do this alone, brother. There is no need for that.
Like worktowin said. ODAAT. The past 3 days dont really mean crap. Just today bro.
I am glad that these others are encouraging you, and each and every one is giving sound advice.
Let me be the prick. You started with me, maybe 10 days behind if I remember right. I had days like you early on. hell, I had at least a week straight. You know what? I posted 1174 this morning. You posted 40? bro, at some point you need to stop letting the bitch run your life. Recognize that this is a funk, they happen to all of us, and it will pass. Do whatever it takes to get past this - fake, yard work, candy, lots of water, exercise, etc. Do it now - stop dwelling on what you think you are missing or what you think tobacco/nicotine will do "for" you and realize what it has done to you. You would trade a few seconds of the mirage of mental normalcy for a potentially life threatening disease? Think about how fucking stupid that is. You want to poison yourself into "feeling better." Fact is you need to wake the fuck up, find out where you put your balls, and decide you want this freedom.
Your brain is physically rewiring, but you need to do the mental work to change your thinking if you want to be free. You know what I did after I posted this morning? Did yard work, had a soccer meeting for the 9 "pre-k" kids I will try and mold into a soccer team this spring, and then went shopping for yard stuff. All of these things would have been a trigger 1100 days ago. You know how many times I "wanted" a dip or even thought about it? none. You need to change your mindset. Are all the words you have typed in this intro hollow, or do you mean it?
You are glamorizing what you think dip can do for you. Spend some time reading the facts about what it did, and will continue to do, to you. Cancer, blood pressure, loss of taste, dependency on a poison to feel "normal" due to fucked up brain chemistry, not to mention the money pissed away.
Thousands have been where you are and failed because they didnt do the mental part. Nicotine will not just let you go. Its an addiction, not a habit you can just drop. You have to fight. You better get pissed off, but not at your lack of having a dip. Get pissed at what this bullshit has done to you. It enslaved you. it runs your life so much that 40 days free and you still think you need it feel normal.
The ball is in your court sixer - at some point, you WILL quit. Whether you do it now, by choice or when they are removing your tongue, jaw, or larynx is up to you. Just remember, as shitty as the last 3 days have been day 1 was even shittier. Now imagine day 1 plus chemo and massive surgery to remove major portions of your face and neck.
Are you mad yet? Have you fucking decided to man up and push through yet? oh, and this:
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Warning: If you get easily offended, do not bother reading.
I am going to get right to the point. Addicts like ourselves will make up any excuse to not follow the path of victory. The staple of OUR website is to post roll and be accountable to our quit. Yes, I said OUR website. I am saying this because the founders of this site have not made a career out of this fabulous idea called KTC. We all all own our quits together and we all have a piece of KTC. This being said, stop the constant self-pity bitching and crying about the website. Changes had to be made. I am assuming it was a volume issue. No one said, "hey lets find a way to fuck up the website to ruin their quits". It has been days since the changes. If you do not post correctly (mistakes happen i understand) and are still complaining, you are either a fucktard, you have been in jail for the past week and unable to get to a computer, or you have been what most of you are and that is the "I have this quit covered" post and runners. You not being able to post roll yet probably just tells me you are not active enough, you are not supporting other groups like they have supported you, and that you probably do not give a shit about any one else quit or OUR website. Repetition breeds understanding and learning. After a week, you should get it. If you are a post and runner, no one cares about your bitching and your crying. You haven't earned the right to complain so just continue coming on here for you 6 seconds a week and have fun running back with day ones someday when "forum changes" hopefully are not happening.
Thank you for everyone making decisions for the better of the website. We appreciate all your hard work and basically volunteering to solidify the quits of everyone on KTC. Happy Easter everyone.
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Warning: If you get easily offended, do not bother reading.
I am going to get right to the point. Addicts like ourselves will make up any excuse to not follow the path of victory. The staple of OUR website is to post roll and be accountable to our quit. Yes, I said OUR website. I am saying this because the founders of this site have not made a career out of this fabulous idea called KTC. We all all own our quits together and we all have a piece of KTC. This being said, stop the constant self-pity bitching and crying about the website. Changes had to be made. I am assuming it was a volume issue. No one said, "hey lets find a way to fuck up the website to ruin their quits". It has been days since the changes. If you do not post correctly (mistakes happen i understand) and are still complaining, you are either a fucktard, you have been in jail for the past week and unable to get to a computer, or you have been what most of you are and that is the "I have this quit covered" post and runners. You not being able to post roll yet probably just tells me you are not active enough, you are not supporting other groups like they have supported you, and that you probably do not give a shit about any one else quit or OUR website. Repetition breeds understanding and learning. After a week, you should get it. If you are a post and runner, no one cares about your bitching and your crying. You haven't earned the right to complain so just continue coming on here for you 6 seconds a week and have fun running back with day ones someday when "forum changes" hopefully are not happening.
Thank you for everyone making decisions for the better of the website. We appreciate all your hard work and basically volunteering to solidify the quits of everyone on KTC. Happy Easter everyone.
Dude, what the fuck is your point? I too think people need to just figure out how to use the new updated site and deal with it, but why do YOU feel so compelled to bitch and moan back to these people. Your last 3 posts are about bitching and moaning; and now your bitching back to people you think are bitching. Typically these type of sob stories with "I don't mean to be a dick" undertones aren't worth my time, but your complete lack of positivity sucks. How are you making other's quits on (in your words) "our" site better? I'm not seeing it and bitch sessions like this just don't cut it for me.
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Warning: If you get easily offended, do not bother reading.
I am going to get right to the point. Addicts like ourselves will make up any excuse to not follow the path of victory. The staple of OUR website is to post roll and be accountable to our quit. Yes, I said OUR website. I am saying this because the founders of this site have not made a career out of this fabulous idea called KTC. We all all own our quits together and we all have a piece of KTC. This being said, stop the constant self-pity bitching and crying about the website. Changes had to be made. I am assuming it was a volume issue. No one said, "hey lets find a way to fuck up the website to ruin their quits". It has been days since the changes. If you do not post correctly (mistakes happen i understand) and are still complaining, you are either a fucktard, you have been in jail for the past week and unable to get to a computer, or you have been what most of you are and that is the "I have this quit covered" post and runners. You not being able to post roll yet probably just tells me you are not active enough, you are not supporting other groups like they have supported you, and that you probably do not give a shit about any one else quit or OUR website. Repetition breeds understanding and learning. After a week, you should get it. If you are a post and runner, no one cares about your bitching and your crying. You haven't earned the right to complain so just continue coming on here for you 6 seconds a week and have fun running back with day ones someday when "forum changes" hopefully are not happening.
Thank you for everyone making decisions for the better of the website. We appreciate all your hard work and basically volunteering to solidify the quits of everyone on KTC. Happy Easter everyone.
Dude, what the fuck is your point? I too think people need to just figure out how to use the new updated site and deal with it, but why do YOU feel so compelled to bitch and moan back to these people. Your last 3 posts are about bitching and moaning; and now your bitching back to people you think are bitching. Typically these type of sob stories with "I don't mean to be a dick" undertones aren't worth my time, but your complete lack of positivity sucks. How are you making other's quits on (in your words) "our" site better? I'm not seeing it and bitch sessions like this just don't cut it for me.
If you don't like this or the last three posts then stop reading my fuckin intro because I don't give a shit what you have to say dude. The point is that people on this site are making any excuse not to be active....check the percentage of roll posts. I didn't post it in my group or yours. I do this shit for me, not you or anyone else. If it is not worth your time, then stop trolling my intro.
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Warning: If you get easily offended, do not bother reading.
I am going to get right to the point. Addicts like ourselves will make up any excuse to not follow the path of victory. The staple of OUR website is to post roll and be accountable to our quit. Yes, I said OUR website. I am saying this because the founders of this site have not made a career out of this fabulous idea called KTC. We all all own our quits together and we all have a piece of KTC. This being said, stop the constant self-pity bitching and crying about the website. Changes had to be made. I am assuming it was a volume issue. No one said, "hey lets find a way to fuck up the website to ruin their quits". It has been days since the changes. If you do not post correctly (mistakes happen i understand) and are still complaining, you are either a fucktard, you have been in jail for the past week and unable to get to a computer, or you have been what most of you are and that is the "I have this quit covered" post and runners. You not being able to post roll yet probably just tells me you are not active enough, you are not supporting other groups like they have supported you, and that you probably do not give a shit about any one else quit or OUR website. Repetition breeds understanding and learning. After a week, you should get it. If you are a post and runner, no one cares about your bitching and your crying. You haven't earned the right to complain so just continue coming on here for you 6 seconds a week and have fun running back with day ones someday when "forum changes" hopefully are not happening.
Thank you for everyone making decisions for the better of the website. We appreciate all your hard work and basically volunteering to solidify the quits of everyone on KTC. Happy Easter everyone.
Dude, what the fuck is your point? I too think people need to just figure out how to use the new updated site and deal with it, but why do YOU feel so compelled to bitch and moan back to these people. Your last 3 posts are about bitching and moaning; and now your bitching back to people you think are bitching. Typically these type of sob stories with "I don't mean to be a dick" undertones aren't worth my time, but your complete lack of positivity sucks. How are you making other's quits on (in your words) "our" site better? I'm not seeing it and bitch sessions like this just don't cut it for me.
If you don't like this or the last three posts then stop reading my fuckin intro because I don't give a shit what you have to say dude. The point is that people on this site are making any excuse not to be active....check the percentage of roll posts. I didn't post it in my group or yours. I do this shit for me, not you or anyone else. If it is not worth your time, then stop trolling my intro.
Happy Easter Fellas. Quit with ya'll today. ;)
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Warning: If you get easily offended, do not bother reading.
I am going to get right to the point. Addicts like ourselves will make up any excuse to not follow the path of victory. The staple of OUR website is to post roll and be accountable to our quit. Yes, I said OUR website. I am saying this because the founders of this site have not made a career out of this fabulous idea called KTC. We all all own our quits together and we all have a piece of KTC. This being said, stop the constant self-pity bitching and crying about the website. Changes had to be made. I am assuming it was a volume issue. No one said, "hey lets find a way to fuck up the website to ruin their quits". It has been days since the changes. If you do not post correctly (mistakes happen i understand) and are still complaining, you are either a fucktard, you have been in jail for the past week and unable to get to a computer, or you have been what most of you are and that is the "I have this quit covered" post and runners. You not being able to post roll yet probably just tells me you are not active enough, you are not supporting other groups like they have supported you, and that you probably do not give a shit about any one else quit or OUR website. Repetition breeds understanding and learning. After a week, you should get it. If you are a post and runner, no one cares about your bitching and your crying. You haven't earned the right to complain so just continue coming on here for you 6 seconds a week and have fun running back with day ones someday when "forum changes" hopefully are not happening.
Thank you for everyone making decisions for the better of the website. We appreciate all your hard work and basically volunteering to solidify the quits of everyone on KTC. Happy Easter everyone.
Dude, what the fuck is your point? I too think people need to just figure out how to use the new updated site and deal with it, but why do YOU feel so compelled to bitch and moan back to these people. Your last 3 posts are about bitching and moaning; and now your bitching back to people you think are bitching. Typically these type of sob stories with "I don't mean to be a dick" undertones aren't worth my time, but your complete lack of positivity sucks. How are you making other's quits on (in your words) "our" site better? I'm not seeing it and bitch sessions like this just don't cut it for me.
If you don't like this or the last three posts then stop reading my fuckin intro because I don't give a shit what you have to say dude. The point is that people on this site are making any excuse not to be active....check the percentage of roll posts. I didn't post it in my group or yours. I do this shit for me, not you or anyone else. If it is not worth your time, then stop trolling my intro.
Happy Easter Fellas. Quit with ya'll today. ;)
Sixer! I've been wondering about you and tried to find your intro but haven't figured out how to find individual intros yet. Not that I'm complaining hahaha.
Change tends to bring out the worst in some people. Leaders control what they can control and let the rest go. Forget about the bitching of others and bask in the beauty of your first nicotine day holiday. You should be damn proud of where you are... But never forget where you were. The holidays really will keep getting better.
Best wishes for a beautiful Easter for you and your family.
-w2w
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Warning: If you get easily offended, do not bother reading.
I am going to get right to the point. Addicts like ourselves will make up any excuse to not follow the path of victory. The staple of OUR website is to post roll and be accountable to our quit. Yes, I said OUR website. I am saying this because the founders of this site have not made a career out of this fabulous idea called KTC. We all all own our quits together and we all have a piece of KTC. This being said, stop the constant self-pity bitching and crying about the website. Changes had to be made. I am assuming it was a volume issue. No one said, "hey lets find a way to fuck up the website to ruin their quits". It has been days since the changes. If you do not post correctly (mistakes happen i understand) and are still complaining, you are either a fucktard, you have been in jail for the past week and unable to get to a computer, or you have been what most of you are and that is the "I have this quit covered" post and runners. You not being able to post roll yet probably just tells me you are not active enough, you are not supporting other groups like they have supported you, and that you probably do not give a shit about any one else quit or OUR website. Repetition breeds understanding and learning. After a week, you should get it. If you are a post and runner, no one cares about your bitching and your crying. You haven't earned the right to complain so just continue coming on here for you 6 seconds a week and have fun running back with day ones someday when "forum changes" hopefully are not happening.
Thank you for everyone making decisions for the better of the website. We appreciate all your hard work and basically volunteering to solidify the quits of everyone on KTC. Happy Easter everyone.
Dude, what the fuck is your point? I too think people need to just figure out how to use the new updated site and deal with it, but why do YOU feel so compelled to bitch and moan back to these people. Your last 3 posts are about bitching and moaning; and now your bitching back to people you think are bitching. Typically these type of sob stories with "I don't mean to be a dick" undertones aren't worth my time, but your complete lack of positivity sucks. How are you making other's quits on (in your words) "our" site better? I'm not seeing it and bitch sessions like this just don't cut it for me.
If you don't like this or the last three posts then stop reading my fuckin intro because I don't give a shit what you have to say dude. The point is that people on this site are making any excuse not to be active....check the percentage of roll posts. I didn't post it in my group or yours. I do this shit for me, not you or anyone else. If it is not worth your time, then stop trolling my intro.
Happy Easter Fellas. Quit with ya'll today. ;)
Sixer! I've been wondering about you and tried to find your intro but haven't figured out how to find individual intros yet. Not that I'm complaining hahaha.
Change tends to bring out the worst in some people. Leaders control what they can control and let the rest go. Forget about the bitching of others and bask in the beauty of your first nicotine day holiday. You should be damn proud of where you are... But never forget where you were. The holidays really will keep getting better.
Best wishes for a beautiful Easter for you and your family.
-w2w
When someone gets that intro thing figured out id like to know. If your subscribed to an intro ie. your own it can be found in your preferences. There has to be another way. Maybe this half red neck is just not smart enough. I'm not complaining though. If i was this intro would definitely be the best place for it. Lol quit with you any day sixer.
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Warning: If you get easily offended, do not bother reading.
I am going to get right to the point. Addicts like ourselves will make up any excuse to not follow the path of victory. The staple of OUR website is to post roll and be accountable to our quit. Yes, I said OUR website. I am saying this because the founders of this site have not made a career out of this fabulous idea called KTC. We all all own our quits together and we all have a piece of KTC. This being said, stop the constant self-pity bitching and crying about the website. Changes had to be made. I am assuming it was a volume issue. No one said, "hey lets find a way to fuck up the website to ruin their quits". It has been days since the changes. If you do not post correctly (mistakes happen i understand) and are still complaining, you are either a fucktard, you have been in jail for the past week and unable to get to a computer, or you have been what most of you are and that is the "I have this quit covered" post and runners. You not being able to post roll yet probably just tells me you are not active enough, you are not supporting other groups like they have supported you, and that you probably do not give a shit about any one else quit or OUR website. Repetition breeds understanding and learning. After a week, you should get it. If you are a post and runner, no one cares about your bitching and your crying. You haven't earned the right to complain so just continue coming on here for you 6 seconds a week and have fun running back with day ones someday when "forum changes" hopefully are not happening.
Thank you for everyone making decisions for the better of the website. We appreciate all your hard work and basically volunteering to solidify the quits of everyone on KTC. Happy Easter everyone.
Dude, what the fuck is your point? I too think people need to just figure out how to use the new updated site and deal with it, but why do YOU feel so compelled to bitch and moan back to these people. Your last 3 posts are about bitching and moaning; and now your bitching back to people you think are bitching. Typically these type of sob stories with "I don't mean to be a dick" undertones aren't worth my time, but your complete lack of positivity sucks. How are you making other's quits on (in your words) "our" site better? I'm not seeing it and bitch sessions like this just don't cut it for me.
If you don't like this or the last three posts then stop reading my fuckin intro because I don't give a shit what you have to say dude. The point is that people on this site are making any excuse not to be active....check the percentage of roll posts. I didn't post it in my group or yours. I do this shit for me, not you or anyone else. If it is not worth your time, then stop trolling my intro.
Happy Easter Fellas. Quit with ya'll today. ;)
Sixer! I've been wondering about you and tried to find your intro but haven't figured out how to find individual intros yet. Not that I'm complaining hahaha.
Change tends to bring out the worst in some people. Leaders control what they can control and let the rest go. Forget about the bitching of others and bask in the beauty of your first nicotine day holiday. You should be damn proud of where you are... But never forget where you were. The holidays really will keep getting better.
Best wishes for a beautiful Easter for you and your family.
-w2w
When someone gets that intro thing figured out id like to know. If your subscribed to an intro ie. your own it can be found in your preferences. There has to be another way. Maybe this half red neck is just not smart enough. I'm not complaining though. If i was this intro would definitely be the best place for it. Lol quit with you any day sixer.
To find an into, click on the user name, then profile options, then members topics. You can then "track topic"
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After recent occurrences on this site, I have doing a lot of thinking. Trying not to hurt myself......
A chipper is someone that can use an addictive substance relatively often while not becoming addicted. Even though I would label my personality addictive, I am in many ways a "chipper" with many substances other than the nic bitch. I won't get into specifics on a forum board, but let's just say I have let loose a few times. I somehow graduated from college and hold decent employment......
I have always enjoyed drinking. Ever since I was 16, I have been drinking one or two times per week. I have however been able to also stop for weeks without feeling any effects from stopping. It was always a never ending cycle. "I can't quit nic because I drink too much and I can't not have a cig or a dip when I'm drinking". This led to a night out 56 days ago. A night I lost control and got hammered. Luckily I did not hurt anyone physically but I got pretty nasty. I woke up the next day and I was tired of the bullshit. I made a decision to stop drinking. This decision also helped make a decision to quit nic because now I thought I could because I had nothing attached to my nic addiction.....
This is going to sound kind of crazy I know, but here it goes. After being quit 54 days I now think I "enjoyed"!drinking all these years because I delivered more nicotine to my system the more I drank. I think my drinking (which I assumed was borderline if not full blown alcoholic) was being dictated by my addiction to nic........ I didn't have a drink for the first 30 days of my quit. I felt no ill effects from this. I have not been drunk once in 56 days. I have been able to drink a soda without feeling pressure to drink and I have been able to drink 5 beers in an hour and shut myself off. I am a chipper when it comes to alcohol. With nicotine, I am definitely the opposite. I guess I am lucky. Lucky to have this site. Thanks for your help guys. QLF every day. I'm out.
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I am going to be accused of being "negative" again or some other bullshit but I don't care.......
Are we as a community going to bounce back after the revamping of the website?
I knew activity was very low. I and a few others have attempted to call cavers and sneaky bastards out on their shady bullshit. We have received very few answers and the level of accountability has dropped significantly since before the website changes. This website has probably saved my life and I feel like if the involvement then reflected the present, then I probably would not have made it 56 days quit.
The changes on the website took place on the 13th and 14th of April. People were exempt for the most part from missing roll on those days. I gathered information from seven days PRIOR to the April 13th and seven days AFTER April 14th. Here are some stats from and numbers that I have relied upon while forming the above thoughts:
Total Number of Roll Calls Missed Prior: 59
Total Number of Roll Calls Missed After: 173
Number Missed Prior Per Month (August Exempt):
July- 11
June- 21
May- 17
April- 17
Number Missed After Per Month (August Exempt):
July- 41
June- 48
May- 67
April- 17
-The total number of missed roll calls rose 293 percent in the seven days after compared with the seven days before.
Is a lack of understanding the new site to blame for lack of roll posts like many have proclaimed?
If so, then why did the total number of prior vs post for April remain the same??? Is the month of April more computer savvy??
Is the lessened activity in chat due to a change in the site?
I feel like people probably use the new website as a reason to weaken their quits because they are addicts. April's numbers look so well because they have longer quits that are being kept closer to the vest. The people of April have been quit longer and probably better understand the importance of posting roll and being active members of KTC. It is a great job by the month as a whole.
Either way, the numbers show that less lives will be save unless we return to our past level of activity and accountability.
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I am going to be accused of being "negative" again or some other bullshit but I don't care.......
Are we as a community going to bounce back after the revamping of the website?
I knew activity was very low. I and a few others have attempted to call cavers and sneaky bastards out on their shady bullshit. We have received very few answers and the level of accountability has dropped significantly since before the website changes. This website has probably saved my life and I feel like if the involvement then reflected the present, then I probably would not have made it 56 days quit.
The changes on the website took place on the 13th and 14th of April. People were exempt for the most part from missing roll on those days. I gathered information from seven days PRIOR to the April 13th and seven days AFTER April 14th. Here are some stats from and numbers that I have relied upon while forming the above thoughts:
Total Number of Roll Calls Missed Prior: 59
Total Number of Roll Calls Missed After: 173
Number Missed Prior Per Month (August Exempt):
July- 11
June- 21
May- 17
April- 17
Number Missed After Per Month (August Exempt):
July- 41
June- 48
May- 67
April- 17
-The total number of missed roll calls rose 293 percent in the seven days after compared with the seven days before.
Is a lack of understanding the new site to blame for lack of roll posts like many have proclaimed?
If so, then why did the total number of prior vs post for April remain the same??? Is the month of April more computer savvy??
Is the lessened activity in chat due to a change in the site?
I feel like people probably use the new website as a reason to weaken their quits because they are addicts. April's numbers look so well because they have longer quits that are being kept closer to the vest. The people of April have been quit longer and probably better understand the importance of posting roll and being active members of KTC. It is a great job by the month as a whole.
Either way, the numbers show that less lives will be save unless we return to our past level of activity and accountability.
MY OPINION ONLY- April did not change because simply because of psychosocial reasons.... we were right in the middle of HOF and I for one, come hell or high water, was going to post roll if I had to crawl to get it done. I had, like all of April at that point had too much invested to miss a day excused or not. The increase in other classes same psychosocial problem but they were also handed a free excuse because the website became more difficult to navigate and post etc. especially if you were still getting used to it...Robbie
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Day 57- Legacy
question my methods.....question my over thinking.....question my approach as it may be "softer" than others.....question what I am about to post....
but you cant question my tenacity......you cant question my genuine feelings as it relates to your your life, your quit, and your battle.....you cant question my willingness to fight today.....
Quitting for just myself??? that is the KTC slogan. A slogan I generally believe in and have preached to new quitters. I am quitting for myself. I quit being a slave. I quit not gaining the respect from others because I am an addict. Most importantly however, I quit for my legacy. I quit for those closer to me in a different way. Children of nicotine users are 15 times more likely to use nicotine. Younger siblings are 6 times more likely to smoke if their older siblings use nicotine. Not only am I winning every day for everyone I have become friends with on KTC, but I am fighting for my future children and younger brother. Not because I may pass on and not be able to be with them, but because I am making nicotine disgusting and not optional. Part of the legacy I am passing on, is quitting like fuck today so maybe they do not have to quit tomorrow. I am ending the cycle of family nicotine abuse.
I believe fully in the mottos of this program. The quitting for yourself motto is correct. You would probably throw a dip in right now if a tin costed 20 bucks or it would upset your wife. But would you dip TODAY if you knew that dip had the potential to kill your child or younger brother/sister sometime in the future????
Fuck Nic. Fuck the haters. I QLF with you all, Today.
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Day 57- Legacy
question my methods.....question my over thinking.....question my approach as it may be "softer" than others.....question what I am about to post....
but you cant question my tenacity......you cant question my genuine feelings as it relates to your your life, your quit, and your battle.....you cant question my willingness to fight today.....
Quitting for just myself??? that is the KTC slogan. A slogan I generally believe in and have preached to new quitters. I am quitting for myself. I quit being a slave. I quit not gaining the respect from others because I am an addict. Most importantly however, I quit for my legacy. I quit for those closer to me in a different way. Children of nicotine users are 15 times more likely to use nicotine. Younger siblings are 6 times more likely to smoke if their older siblings use nicotine. Not only am I winning every day for everyone I have become friends with on KTC, but I am fighting for my future children and younger brother. Not because I may pass on and not be able to be with them, but because I am making nicotine disgusting and not optional. Part of the legacy I am passing on, is quitting like fuck today so maybe they do not have to quit tomorrow. I am ending the cycle of family nicotine abuse.
I believe fully in the mottos of this program. The quitting for yourself motto is correct. You would probably throw a dip in right now if a tin costed 20 bucks or it would upset your wife. But would you dip TODAY if you knew that dip had the potential to kill your child or younger brother/sister sometime in the future????
Fuck Nic. Fuck the haters. I QLF with you all, Today.
Amnen! Nicotine, Nic supporter, those that profit off nicontine can piss up wind! 'Finger' For all the haters, I hate you too. Nicotine and USTobacco terrorizes families around the world. You can suck it!!!!
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Day 57- Legacy
question my methods.....question my over thinking.....question my approach as it may be "softer" than others.....question what I am about to post....
but you cant question my tenacity......you cant question my genuine feelings as it relates to your your life, your quit, and your battle.....you cant question my willingness to fight today.....
Quitting for just myself??? that is the KTC slogan. A slogan I generally believe in and have preached to new quitters. I am quitting for myself. I quit being a slave. I quit not gaining the respect from others because I am an addict. Most importantly however, I quit for my legacy. I quit for those closer to me in a different way. Children of nicotine users are 15 times more likely to use nicotine. Younger siblings are 6 times more likely to smoke if their older siblings use nicotine. Not only am I winning every day for everyone I have become friends with on KTC, but I am fighting for my future children and younger brother. Not because I may pass on and not be able to be with them, but because I am making nicotine disgusting and not optional. Part of the legacy I am passing on, is quitting like fuck today so maybe they do not have to quit tomorrow. I am ending the cycle of family nicotine abuse.
I believe fully in the mottos of this program. The quitting for yourself motto is correct. You would probably throw a dip in right now if a tin costed 20 bucks or it would upset your wife. But would you dip TODAY if you knew that dip had the potential to kill your child or younger brother/sister sometime in the future????
Fuck Nic. Fuck the haters. I QLF with you all, Today.
Amnen! Nicotine, Nic supporter, those that profit off nicontine can piss up wind! 'Finger' For all the haters, I hate you too. Nicotine and USTobacco terrorizes families around the world. You can suck it!!!!
Amen Brother! Quit with you all day long. I could not agree more the cycle stops with me!
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Day 57- Legacy
question my methods.....question my over thinking.....question my approach as it may be "softer" than others.....question what I am about to post....
but you cant question my tenacity......you cant question my genuine feelings as it relates to your your life, your quit, and your battle.....you cant question my willingness to fight today.....
Quitting for just myself??? that is the KTC slogan. A slogan I generally believe in and have preached to new quitters. I am quitting for myself. I quit being a slave. I quit not gaining the respect from others because I am an addict. Most importantly however, I quit for my legacy. I quit for those closer to me in a different way. Children of nicotine users are 15 times more likely to use nicotine. Younger siblings are 6 times more likely to smoke if their older siblings use nicotine. Not only am I winning every day for everyone I have become friends with on KTC, but I am fighting for my future children and younger brother. Not because I may pass on and not be able to be with them, but because I am making nicotine disgusting and not optional. Part of the legacy I am passing on, is quitting like fuck today so maybe they do not have to quit tomorrow. I am ending the cycle of family nicotine abuse.
I believe fully in the mottos of this program. The quitting for yourself motto is correct. You would probably throw a dip in right now if a tin costed 20 bucks or it would upset your wife. But would you dip TODAY if you knew that dip had the potential to kill your child or younger brother/sister sometime in the future????
Fuck Nic. Fuck the haters. I QLF with you all, Today.
Amnen! Nicotine, Nic supporter, those that profit off nicontine can piss up wind! 'Finger' For all the haters, I hate you too. Nicotine and USTobacco terrorizes families around the world. You can suck it!!!!
Amen Brother! Quit with you all day long. I could not agree more the cycle stops with me!
Hell yes!! Good stuff!
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day 59- Stoppages
The term is often used to refer to a labor union issue or the minutes added to the end of a soccer match. For me however, it refers to failure. Multiple instances of failure during the last 15 years. I have attempted to quit this bitch too many times. Many of these stoppages lasted 3 hours, 5 hours, or 1 day. I lost count and do not remember many of these stoppages. There are two that stand out in my memory. The first stoppage lasted 2 years. I was 23 years old.....went to a bar....thought I could have one....You know the story. The second was on KTC in 2011. I lasted 54 days (thought it was 58, I looked it up) I honestly spent much of my current quit thinking about day 54. I knew I learned from the all the stoppages, but I was scared. "Last time I felt so good but still failed"....That shit was not going to happen again. Today, I am on day 59. Dipping fake dip maybe a little too much but fuck it, I'm still quit. Maybe I am Preaching a little too much, maybe being a little too harsh on weak quitters, or maybe taking it too serious but I dont give a fuck because I finally know what I am doing. This is not a stoppage. I am killing this bitch every day. This is my quit. Owning it.
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day 59- Stoppages
The term is often used to refer to a labor union issue or the minutes added to the end of a soccer match. For me however, it refers to failure. Multiple instances of failure during the last 15 years. I have attempted to quit this bitch too many times. Many of these stoppages lasted 3 hours, 5 hours, or 1 day. I lost count and do not remember many of these stoppages. There are two that stand out in my memory. The first stoppage lasted 2 years. I was 23 years old.....went to a bar....thought I could have one....You know the story. The second was on KTC in 2011. I lasted 54 days (thought it was 58, I looked it up) I honestly spent much of my current quit thinking about day 54. I knew I learned from the all the stoppages, but I was scared. "Last time I felt so good but still failed"....That shit was not going to happen again. Today, I am on day 59. Dipping fake dip maybe a little too much but fuck it, I'm still quit. Maybe I am Preaching a little too much, maybe being a little too harsh on weak quitters, or maybe taking it too serious but I dont give a fuck because I finally know what I am doing. This is not a stoppage. I am killing this bitch every day. This is my quit. Owning it.
Fuck yeah!! Balls to the wall quit. Keep it up.
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day 59- Stoppages
The term is often used to refer to a labor union issue or the minutes added to the end of a soccer match. For me however, it refers to failure. Multiple instances of failure during the last 15 years. I have attempted to quit this bitch too many times. Many of these stoppages lasted 3 hours, 5 hours, or 1 day. I lost count and do not remember many of these stoppages. There are two that stand out in my memory. The first stoppage lasted 2 years. I was 23 years old.....went to a bar....thought I could have one....You know the story. The second was on KTC in 2011. I lasted 54 days (thought it was 58, I looked it up) I honestly spent much of my current quit thinking about day 54. I knew I learned from the all the stoppages, but I was scared. "Last time I felt so good but still failed"....That shit was not going to happen again. Today, I am on day 59. Dipping fake dip maybe a little too much but fuck it, I'm still quit. Maybe I am Preaching a little too much, maybe being a little too harsh on weak quitters, or maybe taking it too serious but I dont give a fuck because I finally know what I am doing. This is not a stoppage. I am killing this bitch every day. This is my quit. Owning it.
i use the fake stuff..and i don't feel bad about it...it's not going to cause me to lose a jaw or tongue or my life. Weak ass quitters can learn from you sixer, being a retread myself i know how hard it is to come back after a failure. You keep preachin man...you'll save one
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day 59- Stoppages
The term is often used to refer to a labor union issue or the minutes added to the end of a soccer match. For me however, it refers to failure. Multiple instances of failure during the last 15 years. I have attempted to quit this bitch too many times. Many of these stoppages lasted 3 hours, 5 hours, or 1 day. I lost count and do not remember many of these stoppages. There are two that stand out in my memory. The first stoppage lasted 2 years. I was 23 years old.....went to a bar....thought I could have one....You know the story. The second was on KTC in 2011. I lasted 54 days (thought it was 58, I looked it up) I honestly spent much of my current quit thinking about day 54. I knew I learned from the all the stoppages, but I was scared. "Last time I felt so good but still failed"....That shit was not going to happen again. Today, I am on day 59. Dipping fake dip maybe a little too much but fuck it, I'm still quit. Maybe I am Preaching a little too much, maybe being a little too harsh on weak quitters, or maybe taking it too serious but I dont give a fuck because I finally know what I am doing. This is not a stoppage. I am killing this bitch every day. This is my quit. Owning it.
i use the fake stuff..and i don't feel bad about it...it's not going to cause me to lose a jaw or tongue or my life. Weak ass quitters can learn from you sixer, being a retread myself i know how hard it is to come back after a failure. You keep preachin man...you'll save one
Third time is the charm, 6r!
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Day 62 Weekend Warrior
I like to look for some added incentive (as if dying isnt enough) on the weekends. This is the time when the site has the least activity and when the quit of our members is the most vulnerable. Today is day 62. I am a member of the June 2014 group. As of today, we have had 75 people that have caved or are missing in action since the beginning of our group. We currently have 58 bad ass members that are fighting. Im not writing this to be negative or to discourage people. I am hoping that writing this will allow us to be aware of the reasons not to let our guard down. I am sure there were many people among the 75 people that were strong quitters. Some of these people may have thought they had this under control or that they could have just one. I feel like these 75 people scare us all. The 75 people potentially represent one of us. That is of course of we are arrogant enough to think "we got this"......I do not want to see another member of our group on that list. I dont want the number to rise to 76. 58 of us will make it 100. I quit today. out
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Day 62 Weekend Warrior
I like to look for some added incentive (as if dying isnt enough) on the weekends. This is the time when the site has the least activity and when the quit of our members is the most vulnerable. Today is day 62. I am a member of the June 2014 group. As of today, we have had 75 people that have caved or are missing in action since the beginning of our group. We currently have 58 bad ass members that are fighting. Im not writing this to be negative or to discourage people. I am hoping that writing this will allow us to be aware of the reasons not to let our guard down. I am sure there were many people among the 75 people that were strong quitters. Some of these people may have thought they had this under control or that they could have just one. I feel like these 75 people scare us all. The 75 people potentially represent one of us. That is of course of we are arrogant enough to think "we got this"......I do not want to see another member of our group on that list. I dont want the number to rise to 76. 58 of us will make it 100. I quit today. out
What frightens us the most is we are all just one bad decision away from being one of those 75.
That is why we can never let our guard down today, tomorrow, 1000, or 10,102 Days from now.
That is why I put my name and my promise on that sacred roll every day. Our word is what we have to keep us from making that one bad decision.
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Day 62 Weekend Warrior
I like to look for some added incentive (as if dying isnt enough) on the weekends. This is the time when the site has the least activity and when the quit of our members is the most vulnerable. Today is day 62. I am a member of the June 2014 group. As of today, we have had 75 people that have caved or are missing in action since the beginning of our group. We currently have 58 bad ass members that are fighting. Im not writing this to be negative or to discourage people. I am hoping that writing this will allow us to be aware of the reasons not to let our guard down. I am sure there were many people among the 75 people that were strong quitters. Some of these people may have thought they had this under control or that they could have just one. I feel like these 75 people scare us all. The 75 people potentially represent one of us. That is of course of we are arrogant enough to think "we got this"......I do not want to see another member of our group on that list. I dont want the number to rise to 76. 58 of us will make it 100. I quit today. out
What frightens us the most is we are all just one bad decision away from being one of those 75.
That is why we can never let our guard down today, tomorrow, 1000, or 10,102 Days from now.
That is why I put my name and my promise on that sacred roll every day. Our word is what we have to keep us from making that one bad decision.
Good stuff, Sixer. I know everybody has their own routine, but I need to post roll every day before my feet even hit the floor. This is not a jab at people who post later in the day. I'm just saying that it's important for me to do it that way. I know me, and I don't trust me without putting my quit armor on first thing in the morning. Quitting with you and the rest of the bad ass June '14 quitters.
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Day 65
You are not "all set"......You are not "barely craving" anymore....You surely are not "cured"......
I have always been the type of person to explore anything and become infatuated with that thing, idea, or activity. It has its positives and negatives I guess. I feel like I am a well rounded dude (a little more since I have quit) that has done a little bit of a lot of things. I feel like this is probably a negative when it comes to my quit. The negative of becoming infatuated with things is that I burn out and quickly get sick of them. I begin to quickly lose interest and need different stimulation. I think that is why I get resounding "funks" every 15 days. That so called "70-80" funk?? yeah I got that shit now at 65. When you are feeling like you have the bitch beat.....When you feel so good that you start talking about certainty in the future regarding the unlikelihood that you will ever touch dip again....Just remember you will feel like I am....I think so many things for just a few seconds all day long. These include, "I am sick of typing www.killthefuckincan.org"....."I am tired of this fuckin fake fuckin dip that does nothing."...."all those so called smart vet fucks told me it gets better..."...."Why do I still feel foggy?".....
Those are the negatives of course. I also think about how I was a slave....About how I have made friendships on here....About how I am actually healthier today than 65 days ago..
We never have this beat....We can never get complacent....We will probably have thoughts or craves for a long time into the future even though they are less often. How are we going to deal with it when it happens??...Dip more fake, stick nuts in drawer, dip more fake, feel like shit but know you are winning, help new quitters, dip more fake, take advice, stay close to KTC...QLF. Day 66 tomorrow. It will get better. Fuck funks. Im out.
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Day 65
You are not "all set"......You are not "barely craving" anymore....You surely are not "cured"......
I have always been the type of person to explore anything and become infatuated with that thing, idea, or activity. It has its positives and negatives I guess. I feel like I am a well rounded dude (a little more since I have quit) that has done a little bit of a lot of things. I feel like this is probably a negative when it comes to my quit. The negative of becoming infatuated with things is that I burn out and quickly get sick of them. I begin to quickly lose interest and need different stimulation. I think that is why I get resounding "funks" every 15 days. That so called "70-80" funk?? yeah I got that shit now at 65. When you are feeling like you have the bitch beat.....When you feel so good that you start talking about certainty in the future regarding the unlikelihood that you will ever touch dip again....Just remember you will feel like I am....I think so many things for just a few seconds all day long. These include, "I am sick of typing www.killthefuckincan.org"....."I am tired of this fuckin fake fuckin dip that does nothing."...."all those so called smart vet fucks told me it gets better..."...."Why do I still feel foggy?".....
Those are the negatives of course. I also think about how I was a slave....About how I have made friendships on here....About how I am actually healthier today than 65 days ago..
We never have this beat....We can never get complacent....We will probably have thoughts or craves for a long time into the future even though they are less often. How are we going to deal with it when it happens??...Dip more fake, stick nuts in drawer, dip more fake, feel like shit but know you are winning, help new quitters, dip more fake, take advice, stay close to KTC...QLF. Day 66 tomorrow. It will get better. Fuck funks. Im out.
quit with you today and everyday sixer. you are winning even when it feels like you are not.
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Day 65
You are not "all set"......You are not "barely craving" anymore....You surely are not "cured"......
I have always been the type of person to explore anything and become infatuated with that thing, idea, or activity. It has its positives and negatives I guess. I feel like I am a well rounded dude (a little more since I have quit) that has done a little bit of a lot of things. I feel like this is probably a negative when it comes to my quit. The negative of becoming infatuated with things is that I burn out and quickly get sick of them. I begin to quickly lose interest and need different stimulation. I think that is why I get resounding "funks" every 15 days. That so called "70-80" funk?? yeah I got that shit now at 65. When you are feeling like you have the bitch beat.....When you feel so good that you start talking about certainty in the future regarding the unlikelihood that you will ever touch dip again....Just remember you will feel like I am....I think so many things for just a few seconds all day long. These include, "I am sick of typing www.killthefuckincan.org"....."I am tired of this fuckin fake fuckin dip that does nothing."...."all those so called smart vet fucks told me it gets better..."...."Why do I still feel foggy?".....
Those are the negatives of course. I also think about how I was a slave....About how I have made friendships on here....About how I am actually healthier today than 65 days ago..
We never have this beat....We can never get complacent....We will probably have thoughts or craves for a long time into the future even though they are less often. How are we going to deal with it when it happens??...Dip more fake, stick nuts in drawer, dip more fake, feel like shit but know you are winning, help new quitters, dip more fake, take advice, stay close to KTC...QLF. Day 66 tomorrow. It will get better. Fuck funks. Im out.
It'll get better. Stamp that shit guaranteed. Stay the course.
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Day 65
You are not "all set"......You are not "barely craving" anymore....You surely are not "cured"......
I have always been the type of person to explore anything and become infatuated with that thing, idea, or activity. It has its positives and negatives I guess. I feel like I am a well rounded dude (a little more since I have quit) that has done a little bit of a lot of things. I feel like this is probably a negative when it comes to my quit. The negative of becoming infatuated with things is that I burn out and quickly get sick of them. I begin to quickly lose interest and need different stimulation. I think that is why I get resounding "funks" every 15 days. That so called "70-80" funk?? yeah I got that shit now at 65. When you are feeling like you have the bitch beat.....When you feel so good that you start talking about certainty in the future regarding the unlikelihood that you will ever touch dip again....Just remember you will feel like I am....I think so many things for just a few seconds all day long. These include, "I am sick of typing www.killthefuckincan.org"....."I am tired of this fuckin fake fuckin dip that does nothing."...."all those so called smart vet fucks told me it gets better..."...."Why do I still feel foggy?".....
Those are the negatives of course. I also think about how I was a slave....About how I have made friendships on here....About how I am actually healthier today than 65 days ago..
We never have this beat....We can never get complacent....We will probably have thoughts or craves for a long time into the future even though they are less often. How are we going to deal with it when it happens??...Dip more fake, stick nuts in drawer, dip more fake, feel like shit but know you are winning, help new quitters, dip more fake, take advice, stay close to KTC...QLF. Day 66 tomorrow. It will get better. Fuck funks. Im out.
"It will get better" "You got this " .........sixcountry, I felt the exact same around the same date of 65
Here is my 65 day post...."Oh My God Help me I dipped..... I was clawing at my mouth and lips spitting and cursing trying to get it out. My poor wife scared to death abruptly awakened to screams and curses and me exclaiming how will I tell them and rambling strange names and begging forgiveness, James , sluggo, ginet EXnuke and a miriad of others which I had to explain........ when I woke up.... Day 65 like a teen aged boy and his first wet dream... I had my first dip dream. I had heard others talk but didnt think much of it never having experienced one, i didnt think they could be that bad. The realness, feeling of textures as the three fingered loaded dip enters your lip at just the right spot. then the taste.. it started to make me gag... it was a stale taste. That taste when you expect a really good dip and the can is a little dry... horrible. The feeling of guilt was the worst, for some reason I saw Evil's and srans avatar and though Oh shit they saw me... and I was trying to hide but I couldnt..... Days 60-65 have brought a new kinda funk before the dream came around, I experienced some depression for a few days and didnt care about much but thanks again to a few good peeps we made it through One Day At A Time.... Ginet thanks for being a pathfinder (Ask slug military term) and warning me of things to come and cutting the path through the quit... :)". It will get better six.. for that I am sure and I am not that many days ahead of you so keep on keeping on, Im at 126 and still crave a bit some day worse than others but it is much better than day 65...You are a bad ass quitter... you own your quit and do not need to suckle at the saggy, tobacco stained, foul smelling teat of the Nic bitch. ever again....Robbie
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Day 65
You are not "all set"......You are not "barely craving" anymore....You surely are not "cured"......
I have always been the type of person to explore anything and become infatuated with that thing, idea, or activity. It has its positives and negatives I guess. I feel like I am a well rounded dude (a little more since I have quit) that has done a little bit of a lot of things. I feel like this is probably a negative when it comes to my quit. The negative of becoming infatuated with things is that I burn out and quickly get sick of them. I begin to quickly lose interest and need different stimulation. I think that is why I get resounding "funks" every 15 days. That so called "70-80" funk?? yeah I got that shit now at 65. When you are feeling like you have the bitch beat.....When you feel so good that you start talking about certainty in the future regarding the unlikelihood that you will ever touch dip again....Just remember you will feel like I am....I think so many things for just a few seconds all day long. These include, "I am sick of typing www.killthefuckincan.org"....."I am tired of this fuckin fake fuckin dip that does nothing."...."all those so called smart vet fucks told me it gets better..."...."Why do I still feel foggy?".....
Those are the negatives of course. I also think about how I was a slave....About how I have made friendships on here....About how I am actually healthier today than 65 days ago..
We never have this beat....We can never get complacent....We will probably have thoughts or craves for a long time into the future even though they are less often. How are we going to deal with it when it happens??...Dip more fake, stick nuts in drawer, dip more fake, feel like shit but know you are winning, help new quitters, dip more fake, take advice, stay close to KTC...QLF. Day 66 tomorrow. It will get better. Fuck funks. Im out.
"It will get better" "You got this " .........sixcountry, I felt the exact same around the same date of 65
Here is my 65 day post...."Oh My God Help me I dipped..... I was clawing at my mouth and lips spitting and cursing trying to get it out. My poor wife scared to death abruptly awakened to screams and curses and me exclaiming how will I tell them and rambling strange names and begging forgiveness, James , sluggo, ginet EXnuke and a miriad of others which I had to explain........ when I woke up.... Day 65 like a teen aged boy and his first wet dream... I had my first dip dream. I had heard others talk but didnt think much of it never having experienced one, i didnt think they could be that bad. The realness, feeling of textures as the three fingered loaded dip enters your lip at just the right spot. then the taste.. it started to make me gag... it was a stale taste. That taste when you expect a really good dip and the can is a little dry... horrible. The feeling of guilt was the worst, for some reason I saw Evil's and srans avatar and though Oh shit they saw me... and I was trying to hide but I couldnt..... Days 60-65 have brought a new kinda funk before the dream came around, I experienced some depression for a few days and didnt care about much but thanks again to a few good peeps we made it through One Day At A Time.... Ginet thanks for being a pathfinder (Ask slug military term) and warning me of things to come and cutting the path through the quit... :)". It will get better six.. for that I am sure and I am not that many days ahead of you so keep on keeping on, Im at 126 and still crave a bit some day worse than others but it is much better than day 65...You are a bad ass quitter... you own your quit and do not need to suckle at the saggy, tobacco stained, foul smelling teat of the Nic bitch. ever again....Robbie
Thank you to all u dudes.....would never be quit without you.
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I have heard many stories about "dip dreams" like the one above. They are explained as pretty horrific episodes involving our addiction. I do not know if I had a dip dream last night. But I do think it was probably a good thing for myself. I have been going through a pretty significant funk, as you know. Last night I had a dream about all the things I used to think I enjoyed but have now realized I strongly disliked.....
The dream begins with a golf outing with an acquaintance (that I have never golfed with but is a known tobacco user). This person offers me a dip and I accept the invitation. I have some of the same feelings as the dip dream mentioned above. The taste and the physical feeling is very similar. The next part of the dream is me drinking with some buddies and me smoking a cigarette outside some bar. This is similar to the scene of my previous cave in 2011. I remember smoking half and hated it. I also remember that I am smoking and drinking with my ex gf of many years that I pretty much hate now. She was with me during the height of my nicotine addiction. (Luckily, I have a much more supportive gf now.) The dream continues with us banging, me hating it, me ending it, and then smoking another cigarette that I throw out after two hauls. The dream finally ends with me sitting in front of a computer and saying to myself "I could be posting 60 something days right now but I fucked up and used that bitch nicotine."...I feel better this morning knowing I truly hate nicotine and would regret using it moments after if I was ever a weak ass retread caver....have a good day. Day 66
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it happens once every 20 days of so....
my body starts screaming for nicotine.....
originally it was for a dip.....
tonight, mistake fuck that....all day TODAY it has consumed my mind. I had a very stressful day at work and naturally my addict self wanted to rely upon nicotine to make me feel better. I am on KTC now at 11:15 PM and I must admit that I am embarrassed. I feel guilty and I am sorry.
It is weird that I now feel guilty for allowing nicotine to remain in my thoughts. Before, anything short of a cave was complete happiness. I expect more of myself. Tonight and today was by far my most difficult night. I came up with every excuse in my head to use but I refused.....
Thanks to ktc and my gf for the support....Day 68 and still fuckin killing it. QLF
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it happens once every 20 days of so....
my body starts screaming for nicotine.....
originally it was for a dip.....
tonight, mistake fuck that....all day TODAY it has consumed my mind. I had a very stressful day at work and naturally my addict self wanted to rely upon nicotine to make me feel better. I am on KTC now at 11:15 PM and I must admit that I am embarrassed. I feel guilty and I am sorry.
It is weird that I now feel guilty for allowing nicotine to remain in my thoughts. Before, anything short of a cave was complete happiness. I expect more of myself. Tonight and today was by far my most difficult night. I came up with every excuse in my head to use but I refused.....
Thanks to ktc and my gf for the support....Day 68 and still fuckin killing it. QLF
Don't be embarrassed. This is totally normal. You're not "allowing" nicotine to remain in your thoughts. It's a tough crutch to eliminate, the lies will pop into your head from time to time. As long as you keep the thoughts in your head and nic out your lip, you will be fine.
Try not believe the lies the she is whispering.
You had a stressful day at work, the sneaky little nic whore is whispering to you that a lip full will somehow make
Your day a little better. It will take some of the stress away.
You know that's a lie. Stufffing your lip full of poison will do nothing but increase your stress level and add another problem to your plate.
You don't need that shit, and you never did.
Don't be embarrassed when she comes back to try and convince you otherwise. Just grind it out and send her packing. Every time you do, you win and makes it that much easier to smack the bitch around, the next time she comes whispering bullshit in your ear.
You got this. Tomorrow will be a better day.
Quit on...
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Sixcountry, This is normal feelings and attacks by the nic bitch. As the big "D" said it will lessen with time for as long as you remain resolute in your efforts. I know you will remain true ..She still attacks and will attack but her strength becomes less and less and you can just flick her away like a bug soon. It is important to place the quit above most things today so you can look back tomorrow and tell the Nic bitch to "Suck it". When I crave I think of the nic bitches nasty tobacco stained tit, Thus far and for ever more, I have not wanted to wrap my lips around the nasty tit and suckle.... kinda disgusting ya know but dipping is that disgusting and even more dangerous the diseases you could get. Suck the tit =get cancer. I quit with you today sixcountry. Be strong, Never Again For Any Reason.......Robbie
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it happens once every 20 days of so....
my body starts screaming for nicotine.....
originally it was for a dip.....
tonight, mistake fuck that....all day TODAY it has consumed my mind. I had a very stressful day at work and naturally my addict self wanted to rely upon nicotine to make me feel better. I am on KTC now at 11:15 PM and I must admit that I am embarrassed. I feel guilty and I am sorry.
It is weird that I now feel guilty for allowing nicotine to remain in my thoughts. Before, anything short of a cave was complete happiness. I expect more of myself. Tonight and today was by far my most difficult night. I came up with every excuse in my head to use but I refused.....
Thanks to ktc and my gf for the support....Day 68 and still fuckin killing it. QLF
Don't be embarrassed. This is totally normal. You're not "allowing" nicotine to remain in your thoughts. It's a tough crutch to eliminate, the lies will pop into your head from time to time. As long as you keep the thoughts in your head and nic out your lip, you will be fine.
Try not believe the lies the she is whispering.
You had a stressful day at work, the sneaky little nic whore is whispering to you that a lip full will somehow make
Your day a little better. It will take some of the stress away.
You know that's a lie. Stufffing your lip full of poison will do nothing but increase your stress level and add another problem to your plate.
You don't need that shit, and you never did.
Don't be embarrassed when she comes back to try and convince you otherwise. Just grind it out and send her packing. Every time you do, you win and makes it that much easier to smack the bitch around, the next time she comes whispering bullshit in your ear.
You got this. Tomorrow will be a better day.
Quit on...
Hang strong sixer.
You are actually just experiencing life without nicotine for the first time in years. You are no longer a slave to a can.
We were not put on this earth to be a slave. Freedom is one of your God given rights. Don't let these moments slow you one bit... power thru them and get out there and enjoy life.
Over time it gets easier to handle these moments, but you have to own this day.
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it happens once every 20 days of so....
my body starts screaming for nicotine.....
originally it was for a dip.....
tonight, mistake fuck that....all day TODAY it has consumed my mind. I had a very stressful day at work and naturally my addict self wanted to rely upon nicotine to make me feel better. I am on KTC now at 11:15 PM and I must admit that I am embarrassed. I feel guilty and I am sorry.
It is weird that I now feel guilty for allowing nicotine to remain in my thoughts. Before, anything short of a cave was complete happiness. I expect more of myself. Tonight and today was by far my most difficult night. I came up with every excuse in my head to use but I refused.....
Thanks to ktc and my gf for the support....Day 68 and still fuckin killing it. QLF
Don't be embarrassed. This is totally normal. You're not "allowing" nicotine to remain in your thoughts. It's a tough crutch to eliminate, the lies will pop into your head from time to time. As long as you keep the thoughts in your head and nic out your lip, you will be fine.
Try not believe the lies the she is whispering.
You had a stressful day at work, the sneaky little nic whore is whispering to you that a lip full will somehow make
Your day a little better. It will take some of the stress away.
You know that's a lie. Stufffing your lip full of poison will do nothing but increase your stress level and add another problem to your plate.
You don't need that shit, and you never did.
Don't be embarrassed when she comes back to try and convince you otherwise. Just grind it out and send her packing. Every time you do, you win and makes it that much easier to smack the bitch around, the next time she comes whispering bullshit in your ear.
You got this. Tomorrow will be a better day.
Quit on...
Hang strong sixer.
You are actually just experiencing life without nicotine for the first time in years. You are no longer a slave to a can.
We were not put on this earth to be a slave. Freedom is one of your God given rights. Don't let these moments slow you one bit... power thru them and get out there and enjoy life.
Over time it gets easier to handle these moments, but you have to own this day.
Hang in there 6r. Let me know if you need anything. You've got this!
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I quit like fuck just like "Sid the Kid" in the Stanley Cup Playoffs......yesssah!!
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I quit like fuck just like "Sid the Kid" in the Stanley Cup Playoffs......yesssah!!
I quit with you today.
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A 16 year old teenager was interviewed by reporters. The teen explained that he works 12 hour days. Oftentimes he works until he vomits, suffers from nausea, and/or being lightheaded. "I didn't feel well, but I still kept working. I started throwing up," said one 16-year-old The sixteen year old goes on to tell the reporter that he works in order to pay for school supplies and his book bag for the next school year.
Thirteen year old Elena is the next to be interviewed. “I would barely eat anything because I wouldn’t get hungry,” a 13-year-old named Elena told Human Rights Watch in May 2013. “Sometimes I felt like I needed to throw up. I felt like I was going to faint. I would stop and try to hold myself up".
These two examples are not young people from a third world country. These are just two examples of many young people that work on tobacco fields during the summer months when school has ended. Many are part of a family owned farm. Some are making money to help support the household. Children as young as 12 can legally work unlimited hours on these fields. Most are from the states of North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia where 90 percent of the tobacco in the United States is grown. Workers are oftentimes exposed to as much as 54 milligrams of dissolved nicotine. This is equivalent to 50 cigarettes and is absorbed in ways that are similar to nicotine patches.
Thank you Big Tobacco for lobbying to enslave our children legally. Piece of shit scumbags.
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A 16 year old teenager was interviewed by reporters. The teen explained that he works 12 hour days. Oftentimes he works until he vomits, suffers from nausea, and/or being lightheaded. "I didn't feel well, but I still kept working. I started throwing up," said one 16-year-old The sixteen year old goes on to tell the reporter that he works in order to pay for school supplies and his book bag for the next school year.
Thirteen year old Elena is the next to be interviewed. “I would barely eat anything because I wouldn’t get hungry,” a 13-year-old named Elena told Human Rights Watch in May 2013. “Sometimes I felt like I needed to throw up. I felt like I was going to faint. I would stop and try to hold myself up".
These two examples are not young people from a third world country. These are just two examples of many young people that work on tobacco fields during the summer months when school has ended. Many are part of a family owned farm. Some are making money to help support the household. Children as young as 12 can legally work unlimited hours on these fields. Most are from the states of North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia where 90 percent of the tobacco in the United States is grown. Workers are oftentimes exposed to as much as 54 milligrams of dissolved nicotine. This is equivalent to 50 cigarettes and is absorbed in ways that are similar to nicotine patches.
Thank you Big Tobacco for lobbying to enslave our children legally. Piece of shit scumbags.
this fuckin weed gets more impressive every day
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A 16 year old teenager was interviewed by reporters. The teen explained that he works 12 hour days. Oftentimes he works until he vomits, suffers from nausea, and/or being lightheaded. "I didn't feel well, but I still kept working. I started throwing up," said one 16-year-old The sixteen year old goes on to tell the reporter that he works in order to pay for school supplies and his book bag for the next school year.
Thirteen year old Elena is the next to be interviewed. “I would barely eat anything because I wouldn’t get hungry,” a 13-year-old named Elena told Human Rights Watch in May 2013. “Sometimes I felt like I needed to throw up. I felt like I was going to faint. I would stop and try to hold myself up".
These two examples are not young people from a third world country. These are just two examples of many young people that work on tobacco fields during the summer months when school has ended. Many are part of a family owned farm. Some are making money to help support the household. Children as young as 12 can legally work unlimited hours on these fields. Most are from the states of North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia where 90 percent of the tobacco in the United States is grown. Workers are oftentimes exposed to as much as 54 milligrams of dissolved nicotine. This is equivalent to 50 cigarettes and is absorbed in ways that are similar to nicotine patches.
Thank you Big Tobacco for lobbying to enslave our children legally. Piece of shit scumbags.
this fuckin weed gets more impressive every day
Do a li'l more research on it... it's deadly scary!
Around WWII we used nicotine as an insecticide. Not long after it was deemed too harmful for most wildlife that came into contact with it so they banned its use...
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A 16 year old teenager was interviewed by reporters. The teen explained that he works 12 hour days. Oftentimes he works until he vomits, suffers from nausea, and/or being lightheaded. "I didn't feel well, but I still kept working. I started throwing up," said one 16-year-old The sixteen year old goes on to tell the reporter that he works in order to pay for school supplies and his book bag for the next school year.
Thirteen year old Elena is the next to be interviewed. “I would barely eat anything because I wouldn’t get hungry,” a 13-year-old named Elena told Human Rights Watch in May 2013. “Sometimes I felt like I needed to throw up. I felt like I was going to faint. I would stop and try to hold myself up".
These two examples are not young people from a third world country. These are just two examples of many young people that work on tobacco fields during the summer months when school has ended. Many are part of a family owned farm. Some are making money to help support the household. Children as young as 12 can legally work unlimited hours on these fields. Most are from the states of North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia where 90 percent of the tobacco in the United States is grown. Workers are oftentimes exposed to as much as 54 milligrams of dissolved nicotine. This is equivalent to 50 cigarettes and is absorbed in ways that are similar to nicotine patches.
Thank you Big Tobacco for lobbying to enslave our children legally. Piece of shit scumbags.
this fuckin weed gets more impressive every day
Do a li'l more research on it... it's deadly scary!
Around WWII we used nicotine as an insecticide. Not long after it was deemed too harmful for most wildlife that came into contact with it so they banned its use...
I try not to source wikipedia, but allow an exception: Nicotine as an insecticide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine#As_an_insecticide)
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A 16 year old teenager was interviewed by reporters. The teen explained that he works 12 hour days. Oftentimes he works until he vomits, suffers from nausea, and/or being lightheaded. "I didn't feel well, but I still kept working. I started throwing up," said one 16-year-old The sixteen year old goes on to tell the reporter that he works in order to pay for school supplies and his book bag for the next school year.
Thirteen year old Elena is the next to be interviewed. “I would barely eat anything because I wouldn’t get hungry,” a 13-year-old named Elena told Human Rights Watch in May 2013. “Sometimes I felt like I needed to throw up. I felt like I was going to faint. I would stop and try to hold myself up".
These two examples are not young people from a third world country. These are just two examples of many young people that work on tobacco fields during the summer months when school has ended. Many are part of a family owned farm. Some are making money to help support the household. Children as young as 12 can legally work unlimited hours on these fields. Most are from the states of North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia where 90 percent of the tobacco in the United States is grown. Workers are oftentimes exposed to as much as 54 milligrams of dissolved nicotine. This is equivalent to 50 cigarettes and is absorbed in ways that are similar to nicotine patches.
Thank you Big Tobacco for lobbying to enslave our children legally. Piece of shit scumbags.
this fuckin weed gets more impressive every day
Do a li'l more research on it... it's deadly scary!
Around WWII we used nicotine as an insecticide. Not long after it was deemed too harmful for most wildlife that came into contact with it so they banned its use...
I try not to source wikipedia, but allow an exception: Nicotine as an insecticide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine#As_an_insecticide)
Sixer, you and me have forged a solid bond since I first invaded your thread and called you out for Â…I'll categorize it as "griping". Well, to come full circle I wanted to follow-up on your thread and say that I was completely wrong about you. Nobody can question how deeply involved in quitting you are. Your log of personal quit experiences and learnings of nicotine (such as this) inspire. Good stuff brother.
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I am actually very proud of myself right now. I am writing this in my intro because I feel like the things I have to say may reflect my asshole tendencies. I know many of the people that see my intro are just my supporters that I wouldn't be quit without, so I decided to write them here. I just have to vent about a certain topic......
I am growing really fuckin tired of the seemingly societal norm that can be best explained as "Pussification". Stop your damn whining and crying. We all notice your issues and problems and have more respect for you when you try to let them go unnoticed. That respect is deep as hell. When you make a mistake, you are supposed to hear it. Everyone doesnt get a fuckin trophy on KTC. Chewie and the gang are not going to invent coins for 10 day increments of quit. If you can not take members getting on you for fuckin up then how the hell are you going to fight off that bitch of a crave that we are all familiar with??? One of the Top five things in my life that piss me off???? People that complain that people care too much. Yes, that is us. We dont show it by patting each other on our asses. I hope the new guys are understanding how it works.......
Thanks for your support everyone.....I cant fuckin wait til tomorrow morning so I can make another promise to you bad ass dudes that I will not use nicotine. out.
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I am actually very proud of myself right now. I am writing this in my intro because I feel like the things I have to say may reflect my asshole tendencies. I know many of the people that see my intro are just my supporters that I wouldn't be quit without, so I decided to write them here. I just have to vent about a certain topic......
I am growing really fuckin tired of the seemingly societal norm that can be best explained as "Pussification". Stop your damn whining and crying. We all notice your issues and problems and have more respect for you when you try to let them go unnoticed. That respect is deep as hell. When you make a mistake, you are supposed to hear it. Everyone doesnt get a fuckin trophy on KTC. Chewie and the gang are not going to invent coins for 10 day increments of quit. If you can not take members getting on you for fuckin up then how the hell are you going to fight off that bitch of a crave that we are all familiar with??? One of the Top five things in my life that piss me off???? People that complain that people care too much. Yes, that is us. We dont show it by patting each other on our asses. I hope the new guys are understanding how it works.......
Thanks for your support everyone.....I cant fuckin wait til tomorrow morning so I can make another promise to you bad ass dudes that I will not use nicotine. out.
I quit with your bad ass, 6r. I just wish you didn't care so much 'winker'
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I am actually very proud of myself right now. I am writing this in my intro because I feel like the things I have to say may reflect my asshole tendencies. I know many of the people that see my intro are just my supporters that I wouldn't be quit without, so I decided to write them here. I just have to vent about a certain topic......
I am growing really fuckin tired of the seemingly societal norm that can be best explained as "Pussification". Stop your damn whining and crying. We all notice your issues and problems and have more respect for you when you try to let them go unnoticed. That respect is deep as hell. When you make a mistake, you are supposed to hear it. Everyone doesnt get a fuckin trophy on KTC. Chewie and the gang are not going to invent coins for 10 day increments of quit. If you can not take members getting on you for fuckin up then how the hell are you going to fight off that bitch of a crave that we are all familiar with??? One of the Top five things in my life that piss me off???? People that complain that people care too much. Yes, that is us. We dont show it by patting each other on our asses. I hope the new guys are understanding how it works.......
Thanks for your support everyone.....I cant fuckin wait til tomorrow morning so I can make another promise to you bad ass dudes that I will not use nicotine. out.
I quit with your bad ass, 6r. I just wish you didn't care so much 'winker'
I care about yours and everyone's quit on here. But i care and voice my opinion so much because the more I care, the more I refuse to be the caving loudmouth with no balls. Care too much to cave. Thank u doc
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I am actually very proud of myself right now. I am writing this in my intro because I feel like the things I have to say may reflect my asshole tendencies. I know many of the people that see my intro are just my supporters that I wouldn't be quit without, so I decided to write them here. I just have to vent about a certain topic......
I am growing really fuckin tired of the seemingly societal norm that can be best explained as "Pussification". Stop your damn whining and crying. We all notice your issues and problems and have more respect for you when you try to let them go unnoticed. That respect is deep as hell. When you make a mistake, you are supposed to hear it. Everyone doesnt get a fuckin trophy on KTC. Chewie and the gang are not going to invent coins for 10 day increments of quit. If you can not take members getting on you for fuckin up then how the hell are you going to fight off that bitch of a crave that we are all familiar with??? One of the Top five things in my life that piss me off???? People that complain that people care too much. Yes, that is us. We dont show it by patting each other on our asses. I hope the new guys are understanding how it works.......
Thanks for your support everyone.....I cant fuckin wait til tomorrow morning so I can make another promise to you bad ass dudes that I will not use nicotine. out.
I quit with your bad ass, 6r. I just wish you didn't care so much 'winker'
I care about yours and everyone's quit on here. But i care and voice my opinion so much because the more I care, the more I refuse to be the caving loudmouth with no balls. Care too much to cave. Thank u doc
Sixer, I am damn proud of the quitter you have become.
Any newbies that may not get why being involved and invested works would read this intro. If sixer had bought in/sold out like this before he would be on the 12th floor right now. Do not be a wallflower! Get involved, get mad, and get quit!
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It is important to acknowledge that we are all in some ways addicted to something, be it only money, shopping, success, promotion, food or sex. People who are addicted to something have become too solidly locked into a love of pleasure and are reaping the consequences of that lifestyle. It also means that their sense of identity is rewarded only when they indulge whatever they crave, and this has thus become dependent upon their addiction. A firm sense of self-identity is based solely upon their habit, and without it, they feel invisible and non-existent. This is often termed an ‘addictive personality’ – they believe that life without ‘their fix’ is unfaceable, not worth living and sad and boring. Such people have identified so strongly or solidly with the source of their pleasure that they believe life without it is not possible or is unthinkable. To at least some degree, we had lost control of our life.
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It is important to acknowledge that we are all in some ways addicted to something, be it only money, shopping, success, promotion, food or sex. People who are addicted to something have become too solidly locked into a love of pleasure and are reaping the consequences of that lifestyle. It also means that their sense of identity is rewarded only when they indulge whatever they crave, and this has thus become dependent upon their addiction. A firm sense of self-identity is based solely upon their habit, and without it, they feel invisible and non-existent. This is often termed an ‘addictive personality’ – they believe that life without ‘their fix’ is unfaceable, not worth living and sad and boring. Such people have identified so strongly or solidly with the source of their pleasure that they believe life without it is not possible or is unthinkable. To at least some degree, we had lost control of our life.
Liking where your going in these recent posts. THis one brought to mind---
Every time I try to stick my head in the sand about this addiction stuff, it turns out I end up looking into the rabbit hole!
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A 16 year old teenager was interviewed by reporters. The teen explained that he works 12 hour days. Oftentimes he works until he vomits, suffers from nausea, and/or being lightheaded. "I didn't feel well, but I still kept working. I started throwing up," said one 16-year-old The sixteen year old goes on to tell the reporter that he works in order to pay for school supplies and his book bag for the next school year.
Thirteen year old Elena is the next to be interviewed. “I would barely eat anything because I wouldn’t get hungry,” a 13-year-old named Elena told Human Rights Watch in May 2013. “Sometimes I felt like I needed to throw up. I felt like I was going to faint. I would stop and try to hold myself up".
These two examples are not young people from a third world country. These are just two examples of many young people that work on tobacco fields during the summer months when school has ended. Many are part of a family owned farm. Some are making money to help support the household. Children as young as 12 can legally work unlimited hours on these fields. Most are from the states of North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia where 90 percent of the tobacco in the United States is grown. Workers are oftentimes exposed to as much as 54 milligrams of dissolved nicotine. This is equivalent to 50 cigarettes and is absorbed in ways that are similar to nicotine patches.
Thank you Big Tobacco for lobbying to enslave our children legally. Piece of shit scumbags.
this fuckin weed gets more impressive every day
Do a li'l more research on it... it's deadly scary!
Around WWII we used nicotine as an insecticide. Not long after it was deemed too harmful for most wildlife that came into contact with it so they banned its use...
Yep, we used to put this shit happily into our bodies everyday. Glad that's finally over for us. I hate it and I hate the pushers of it! Thanks for the fuel Sixer! Quit On Brother!
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Good posts Sixer, proud to be quit with you today.
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A 16 year old teenager was interviewed by reporters. The teen explained that he works 12 hour days. Oftentimes he works until he vomits, suffers from nausea, and/or being lightheaded. "I didn't feel well, but I still kept working. I started throwing up," said one 16-year-old The sixteen year old goes on to tell the reporter that he works in order to pay for school supplies and his book bag for the next school year.
Thirteen year old Elena is the next to be interviewed. “I would barely eat anything because I wouldn’t get hungry,” a 13-year-old named Elena told Human Rights Watch in May 2013. “Sometimes I felt like I needed to throw up. I felt like I was going to faint. I would stop and try to hold myself up".
These two examples are not young people from a third world country. These are just two examples of many young people that work on tobacco fields during the summer months when school has ended. Many are part of a family owned farm. Some are making money to help support the household. Children as young as 12 can legally work unlimited hours on these fields. Most are from the states of North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Virginia where 90 percent of the tobacco in the United States is grown. Workers are oftentimes exposed to as much as 54 milligrams of dissolved nicotine. This is equivalent to 50 cigarettes and is absorbed in ways that are similar to nicotine patches.
Thank you Big Tobacco for lobbying to enslave our children legally. Piece of shit scumbags.
this fuckin weed gets more impressive every day
Do a li'l more research on it... it's deadly scary!
Around WWII we used nicotine as an insecticide. Not long after it was deemed too harmful for most wildlife that came into contact with it so they banned its use...
Yep, we used to put this shit happily into our bodies everyday. Glad that's finally over for us. I hate it and I hate the pushers of it! Thanks for the fuel Sixer! Quit On Brother!
thanks for posting- it helps to keep some facts rolling in here. It's a crime against humanity what big tobacco does. we need to see it to keep the hatred for the poison and the poisoners stoked.
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It has been a while since I consistently contributed to the intros on this website. I usually used these pages when I was raging as a tool to keep it away from those around me and others on these boards. While I must admit I know I will never be out of the woods, I feel like some symptoms like rage as a result of nic and "the fog" are behind me. I just want to send a big "don't worry" to those that have read my intro and feel as if they will not longer be able to hear my negative comments on here. I refuse to disappoint so here it goes....
I have been doing a lot of thinking lately about the question: "Are you signing up for 200?"
I have thought the following:
Is that even a serious question?
Why the fuck would I quit now?
I mean really, not signing up for 200 is like you dropping your kid off at a college campus after their baptism, leaving the Frank Reich game in the second quarter, or leaving the wedding reception when the open bar starts. Why would anyone with over 6,000 days of nic bitch use quit such a successful community after 100 days?
I am going to take it even further and I may piss people off. If you are not signing up for 200 then let us know. You are setting up a cave. You are already adopting thoughts that "you can do this alone.". You are untrustworthy with my quit as well as your own. I will say fuck off and I will see in 10 years when you come back to posting day 1. To everyone in June- Slinger, MCO, LK, Bronc, Raider, Hansen, LT, Herman, Spence, Reese-Let's make some KTC records. Let's be that group that still has a few dozen members 2 years later. People are going to say "damn, that is a badass group." lets keep it going. Thanks everyone for your support. Lata
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It has been a while since I consistently contributed to the intros on this website. I usually used these pages when I was raging as a tool to keep it away from those around me and others on these boards. While I must admit I know I will never be out of the woods, I feel like some symptoms like rage as a result of nic and "the fog" are behind me. I just want to send a big "don't worry" to those that have read my intro and feel as if they will not longer be able to hear my negative comments on here. I refuse to disappoint so here it goes....
I have been doing a lot of thinking lately about the question: "Are you signing up for 200?"
I have thought the following:
Is that even a serious question?
Why the fuck would I quit now?
I mean really, not signing up for 200 is like you dropping your kid off at a college campus after their baptism, leaving the Frank Reich game in the second quarter, or leaving the wedding reception when the open bar starts. Why would anyone with over 6,000 days of nic bitch use quit such a successful community after 100 days?
I am going to take it even further and I may piss people off. If you are not signing up for 200 then let us know. You are setting up a cave. You are already adopting thoughts that "you can do this alone.". You are untrustworthy with my quit as well as your own. I will say fuck off and I will see in 10 years when you come back to posting day 1. To everyone in June- Slinger, MCO, LK, Bronc, Raider, Hansen, LT, Herman, Spence, Reese-Let's make some KTC records. Let's be that group that still has a few dozen members 2 years later. People are going to say "damn, that is a badass group." lets keep it going. Thanks everyone for your support. Lata
Hell yes Sixer! This post was the highlight of my day!!
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It has been a while since I consistently contributed to the intros on this website. I usually used these pages when I was raging as a tool to keep it away from those around me and others on these boards. While I must admit I know I will never be out of the woods, I feel like some symptoms like rage as a result of nic and "the fog" are behind me. I just want to send a big "don't worry" to those that have read my intro and feel as if they will not longer be able to hear my negative comments on here. I refuse to disappoint so here it goes....
I have been doing a lot of thinking lately about the question: "Are you signing up for 200?"
I have thought the following:
Is that even a serious question?
Why the fuck would I quit now?
I mean really, not signing up for 200 is like you dropping your kid off at a college campus after their baptism, leaving the Frank Reich game in the second quarter, or leaving the wedding reception when the open bar starts. Why would anyone with over 6,000 days of nic bitch use quit such a successful community after 100 days?
I am going to take it even further and I may piss people off. If you are not signing up for 200 then let us know. You are setting up a cave. You are already adopting thoughts that "you can do this alone.". You are untrustworthy with my quit as well as your own. I will say fuck off and I will see in 10 years when you come back to posting day 1. To everyone in June- Slinger, MCO, LK, Bronc, Raider, Hansen, LT, Herman, Spence, Reese-Let's make some KTC records. Let's be that group that still has a few dozen members 2 years later. People are going to say "damn, that is a badass group." lets keep it going. Thanks everyone for your support. Lata
Hell yes Sixer! This post was the highlight of my day!!
Great post, Sixer. You can count me in. If my name fails to show up on roll, you can safely assume that I'm dead. Other than that, I can't think of any reason that I would be too busy to do this simple thing that could very well save my life. Damn proud to quit with you.
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It has been a while since I consistently contributed to the intros on this website. I usually used these pages when I was raging as a tool to keep it away from those around me and others on these boards. While I must admit I know I will never be out of the woods, I feel like some symptoms like rage as a result of nic and "the fog" are behind me. I just want to send a big "don't worry" to those that have read my intro and feel as if they will not longer be able to hear my negative comments on here. I refuse to disappoint so here it goes....
I have been doing a lot of thinking lately about the question: "Are you signing up for 200?"
I have thought the following:
Is that even a serious question?
Why the fuck would I quit now?
I mean really, not signing up for 200 is like you dropping your kid off at a college campus after their baptism, leaving the Frank Reich game in the second quarter, or leaving the wedding reception when the open bar starts. Why would anyone with over 6,000 days of nic bitch use quit such a successful community after 100 days?
I am going to take it even further and I may piss people off. If you are not signing up for 200 then let us know. You are setting up a cave. You are already adopting thoughts that "you can do this alone.". You are untrustworthy with my quit as well as your own. I will say fuck off and I will see in 10 years when you come back to posting day 1. To everyone in June- Slinger, MCO, LK, Bronc, Raider, Hansen, LT, Herman, Spence, Reese-Let's make some KTC records. Let's be that group that still has a few dozen members 2 years later. People are going to say "damn, that is a badass group." lets keep it going. Thanks everyone for your support. Lata
Hell yes Sixer! This post was the highlight of my day!!
Great post, Sixer. You can count me in. If my name fails to show up on roll, you can safely assume that I'm dead. Other than that, I can't think of any reason that I would be too busy to do this simple thing that could very well save my life. Damn proud to quit with you.
Love it. Those who leave have forgotten the hold nic had on them and the seriousness of this quit. It's crazy to see folks turn away from a 10 second post each day and risk their lives. Glad you aren't one of them bud. Killin it with you EDD.
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You will never wake up tomorrow and regret that you didn't cave today.........
Slinger, bronc, and Jesse, thank you for everything.
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QLF sixer!! Congrats on the completion of the first leg of your quit... You take everything seriously, do it by the book, and utilize the tools found here at KTC.. A model quitter! Have a great day man, enjoy!
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QLF sixer!! Congrats on the completion of the first leg of your quit... You take everything seriously, do it by the book, and utilize the tools found here at KTC.. A model quitter! Have a great day man, enjoy!
Today is a milestone day. A day to celebrate a great achievement. To be proud. To be thankful. But also a day to take a glimpse back at where you were. You have a great intro to reflect on. One day at a time, you will never relive the misery of the past.
Greatness ahead Sixer! Congratulations and welcome to a club full of nothing but bad asses!
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Well done, my friend. You are a bad ass quitter. Congrats, and thanks for being such a huge part of my quit.
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Great Job!
You're absolutely correct. As soon as you think you don't have to remain accountable, you are setting a cave in motion. Might not be this week, month, or even year, but it will certainly be much more likely to happen.
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QLF sixer!! Congrats on the completion of the first leg of your quit... You take everything seriously, do it by the book, and utilize the tools found here at KTC.. A model quitter! Have a great day man, enjoy!
Today is a milestone day. A day to celebrate a great achievement. To be proud. To be thankful. But also a day to take a glimpse back at where you were. You have a great intro to reflect on. One day at a time, you will never relive the misery of the past.
Greatness ahead Sixer! Congratulations and welcome to a club full of nothing but bad asses!
You're one helluva badass quitter, one whom is respected by many, and inspires many others. Congrats and thanks for showing us how to QLF EDD.
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Welcome and congrats to the HOF. This party's just getting started. As for your question regarding signing up for 200. I'm in this till the end. I feel like my number keeps coming up at the roulette table. Why stop now. For now, enjoy this day. Enjoy this small step for we have many more steps to go.
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Sixer - Congrats on 100 and more importantly, thanks for supporting the newer quitters.
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Thanks you Sixer for the support, and happy HoF to ya!
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Congrats on HoF sixer!! 'oh yeah'
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BOOM baby. Congrats Sixer. Keep setting that pace. Proud to quit with you today.
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Way to be Sixer! Congrats. Celebrate and enjoy today. Its a bid deal. Then do it again to 200!
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the hall - outstanding job sixer!
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the hall - outstanding job sixer!
Congrats sixer! This is a great accomplishment and you should be extremely proud. Enjoy your day and come back here tomorrow to kick some more ass.
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the hall - outstanding job sixer!
Congrats sixer! This is a great accomplishment and you should be extremely proud. Enjoy your day and come back here tomorrow to kick some more ass.
Congrats bro. Great to see the light bulb go off with us freaking retreads. Keep rocking this quit EDD.
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the hall - outstanding job sixer!
Congrats sixer! This is a great accomplishment and you should be extremely proud. Enjoy your day and come back here tomorrow to kick some more ass.
Congrats bro. Great to see the light bulb go off with us freaking retreads. Keep rocking this quit EDD.
Congrats sixer! Keep it up today.
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the hall - outstanding job sixer!
Congrats sixer! This is a great accomplishment and you should be extremely proud. Enjoy your day and come back here tomorrow to kick some more ass.
Congrats bro. Great to see the light bulb go off with us freaking retreads. Keep rocking this quit EDD.
Congrats sixer! Keep it up today.
Hey bro. Outstanding job reaching 100 days. I told you when you did, I'd pay for your HOF Coin. Shoot me a PM with some shipping info, and which coin you want and Ill getter ordered. Great job dude
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the hall - outstanding job sixer!
Congrats sixer! This is a great accomplishment and you should be extremely proud. Enjoy your day and come back here tomorrow to kick some more ass.
Congrats bro. Great to see the light bulb go off with us freaking retreads. Keep rocking this quit EDD.
Congrats sixer! Keep it up today.
Hey bro. Outstanding job reaching 100 days. I told you when you did, I'd pay for your HOF Coin. Shoot me a PM with some shipping info, and which coin you want and Ill getter ordered. Great job dude
Well done. Now repeat every 100 days.
QLF!
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Thank you everyone for your support
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KTC has a special section for political conversations and I understand the importance of these separate sections. Many topics may be passionate subjects for many and some others may not like to engage in these types of conversations altogether due to lack of interest or other causes. I have been doing some thinking lately about KTC as it relates to a current political issue. I will not be mentioning any party affiliation as it relates to this issue (party sides is a media fabrication). I will simply refer to one side of the issue as being that of QuitSmokeless aka "lite" and the other obviously being KTC. I am relating this issue to KTC because I feel like many people including myself have been too lovey dovey. I think these may be my simple quit principles from this point forward. Here it goes.....
The hot button issue will be Entitlements. KTC unsurprisingly stands on the side of "Sixer's Easy Steps to Welfare reform". Lite lies on the opposite end. Many of us have been faced with difficult issues within our quits. We may have became in some ways involuntarily addicted to a drug. Many of us thought we would never become addicted. Others simply didn't care. We "liked" the effects the drug had on us and did not realize the ramifications until much later. We became hooked and needed help. We became victims to Big Tobacco. In the analogy, we became members of the population that now had to rely upon government assistance due to a life threatening event or occurrence. "Lite's" approach from this point forward would be to provide you with housing, cell phones, cash, food stamps, etc indefinitely. Just live off of other people. Have no self-respect or accountability to yourself or others. You want to cave?? It must have been someone else s fault. You want to not post?? its ok, here is a trophy for being the 57th best poster in your group. KTC has and should continue to have a much different approach. We understand that we all need help to overcome the issue. We provide support for our people. We are there to help on holidays or at 3 in the morning. KTC will provide you with the tools and services to get back on your feet. We only ask that you give full effort in return. At some point in time however, you must become accountable to yourself as well as others. KTC will not coddle you and continue to permanently give you things you have not earned. We understand that this feeling of entitlement is infectious to others and our future. We will not have others be negatively affected by your continued lack of respect for the process. This is why I stick with KTC and the bad ass quitters on this site that refuse to pat people on their ass and reward shitty and soft ass behavior.
I understand everyone needs an opportunity for a second and sometimes third chance. But the question of cutting dead weight is often discussed. I simply say, get rid of the weight after 2-3-5 chances to change. The half ass attitude of half ass quitters is infectious to everyone. I am simply tired of sob stories and excuses. Quit on. The support in this place is so awesome. The people and members of this site have been so instrumental to my quit. I am very grateful. Out
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KTC has a special section for political conversations and I understand the importance of these separate sections. Many topics may be passionate subjects for many and some others may not like to engage in these types of conversations altogether due to lack of interest or other causes. I have been doing some thinking lately about KTC as it relates to a current political issue. I will not be mentioning any party affiliation as it relates to this issue (party sides is a media fabrication). I will simply refer to one side of the issue as being that of QuitSmokeless aka "lite" and the other obviously being KTC. I am relating this issue to KTC because I feel like many people including myself have been too lovey dovey. I think these may be my simple quit principles from this point forward. Here it goes.....
The hot button issue will be Entitlements. KTC unsurprisingly stands on the side of "Sixer's Easy Steps to Welfare reform". Lite lies on the opposite end. Many of us have been faced with difficult issues within our quits. We may have became in some ways involuntarily addicted to a drug. Many of us thought we would never become addicted. Others simply didn't care. We "liked" the effects the drug had on us and did not realize the ramifications until much later. We became hooked and needed help. We became victims to Big Tobacco. In the analogy, we became members of the population that now had to rely upon government assistance due to a life threatening event or occurrence. "Lite's" approach from this point forward would be to provide you with housing, cell phones, cash, food stamps, etc indefinitely. Just live off of other people. Have no self-respect or accountability to yourself or others. You want to cave?? It must have been someone else s fault. You want to not post?? its ok, here is a trophy for being the 57th best poster in your group. KTC has and should continue to have a much different approach. We understand that we all need help to overcome the issue. We provide support for our people. We are there to help on holidays or at 3 in the morning. KTC will provide you with the tools and services to get back on your feet. We only ask that you give full effort in return. At some point in time however, you must become accountable to yourself as well as others. KTC will not coddle you and continue to permanently give you things you have not earned. We understand that this feeling of entitlement is infectious to others and our future. We will not have others be negatively affected by your continued lack of respect for the process. This is why I stick with KTC and the bad ass quitters on this site that refuse to pat people on their ass and reward shitty and soft ass behavior.
I understand everyone needs an opportunity for a second and sometimes third chance. But the question of cutting dead weight is often discussed. I simply say, get rid of the weight after 2-3-5 chances to change. The half ass attitude of half ass quitters is infectious to everyone. I am simply tired of sob stories and excuses. Quit on. The support in this place is so awesome. The people and members of this site have been so instrumental to my quit. I am very grateful. Out
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KTC has a special section for political conversations and I understand the importance of these separate sections. Many topics may be passionate subjects for many and some others may not like to engage in these types of conversations altogether due to lack of interest or other causes. I have been doing some thinking lately about KTC as it relates to a current political issue. I will not be mentioning any party affiliation as it relates to this issue (party sides is a media fabrication). I will simply refer to one side of the issue as being that of QuitSmokeless aka "lite" and the other obviously being KTC. I am relating this issue to KTC because I feel like many people including myself have been too lovey dovey. I think these may be my simple quit principles from this point forward. Here it goes.....
The hot button issue will be Entitlements. KTC unsurprisingly stands on the side of "Sixer's Easy Steps to Welfare reform". Lite lies on the opposite end. Many of us have been faced with difficult issues within our quits. We may have became in some ways involuntarily addicted to a drug. Many of us thought we would never become addicted. Others simply didn't care. We "liked" the effects the drug had on us and did not realize the ramifications until much later. We became hooked and needed help. We became victims to Big Tobacco. In the analogy, we became members of the population that now had to rely upon government assistance due to a life threatening event or occurrence. "Lite's" approach from this point forward would be to provide you with housing, cell phones, cash, food stamps, etc indefinitely. Just live off of other people. Have no self-respect or accountability to yourself or others. You want to cave?? It must have been someone else s fault. You want to not post?? its ok, here is a trophy for being the 57th best poster in your group. KTC has and should continue to have a much different approach. We understand that we all need help to overcome the issue. We provide support for our people. We are there to help on holidays or at 3 in the morning. KTC will provide you with the tools and services to get back on your feet. We only ask that you give full effort in return. At some point in time however, you must become accountable to yourself as well as others. KTC will not coddle you and continue to permanently give you things you have not earned. We understand that this feeling of entitlement is infectious to others and our future. We will not have others be negatively affected by your continued lack of respect for the process. This is why I stick with KTC and the bad ass quitters on this site that refuse to pat people on their ass and reward shitty and soft ass behavior.
I understand everyone needs an opportunity for a second and sometimes third chance. But the question of cutting dead weight is often discussed. I simply say, get rid of the weight after 2-3-5 chances to change. The half ass attitude of half ass quitters is infectious to everyone. I am simply tired of sob stories and excuses. Quit on. The support in this place is so awesome. The people and members of this site have been so instrumental to my quit. I am very grateful. Out
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Well stated sixer,
those have to understand that here at KTC we hate failure and do not accept it as an alternative. There are some that may fail in the task but what is wrong is that they fail in the understanding of what to do and of what it takes not to allow the fail back into their lives, so they keep repeating it. And there lies the issue.
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I am not attempting to knock anyone down from their highest quit pedestal. I guess you can call me a pessimist but I would probably see myself falling under the category of a realist. I am also a victim of the subject in this intro post. The post on my 103rd day quit.....
When we are feeling great about anything, it makes it so much easier. When we are healthy, engaging in enjoyable activities, and/or feel that unstoppable adrenaline rush when performing a task, things are much easier. I feel like we all have a little bit of front runner in us. This can be seen in the mental well being (of lack there of) during any period of our roller coaster quits. We naturally feel invincible when we are Seattle's defense, up by 2 touchdowns with 5 minutes left. These are the easy times. The times when we are prepared for any challenges related to our quit.....
What happens when there is a lull or a letdown??? What happens when we wake up sick of posting in 15 different HOF months, saying the lingo, and/or feel a little vulnerable??? What happens if we get sick??? What happens when a family member gets sick??? What happens when we lose our job???
I think the answer is to have balance. Maybe we need to engage in a level of involvement that is sustainable for the long haul. Maybe we need to work on the bonds we have made with our close friends on KTC. Either way, we need to translate the invincible times into every moment. Complacency is a bitch. I know I can avoid it together with you all and those in my support network. QLF. Out.
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I am not attempting to knock anyone down from their highest quit pedestal. I guess you can call me a pessimist but I would probably see myself falling under the category of a realist. I am also a victim of the subject in this intro post. The post on my 103rd day quit.....
When we are feeling great about anything, it makes it so much easier. When we are healthy, engaging in enjoyable activities, and/or feel that unstoppable adrenaline rush when performing a task, things are much easier. I feel like we all have a little bit of front runner in us. This can be seen in the mental well being (of lack there of) during any period of our roller coaster quits. We naturally feel invincible when we are Seattle's defense, up by 2 touchdowns with 5 minutes left. These are the easy times. The times when we are prepared for any challenges related to our quit.....
What happens when there is a lull or a letdown??? What happens when we wake up sick of posting in 15 different HOF months, saying the lingo, and/or feel a little vulnerable??? What happens if we get sick??? What happens when a family member gets sick??? What happens when we lose our job???
I think the answer is to have balance. Maybe we need to engage in a level of involvement that is sustainable for the long haul. Maybe we need to work on the bonds we have made with our close friends on KTC. Either way, we need to translate the invincible times into every moment. Complacency is a bitch. I know I can avoid it together with you all and those in my support network. QLF. Out.
While there is some truth there, let me tell you what has worked for me - post roll first. Then engage in life as it needs you.
Work to do? Do it.
Kids/wife/gf/etc wants to play? Go play.
Need a break? Take one.
Need to engage? engage.
Take what you need and leave the rest. Everybody needs to recharge the battery and we all have varying ways of doing that. That is not saying to not post roll, but if you find it impossible to do what you need to do because you cannot disengage, text your roll in. Use the tools. Pasting it forward us great and this site and all of our success is predicated on it. However, there is a saying - always pay yourself first.
This is first and foremost your quit. You cannot be here to pay it forward if you cave or if you flame out. You owe it to yourself, your family, and your brothers to manage your involvement so neither of those happen.
The whole point of quit is to take back what is yours - your life. So do it.
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I am not attempting to knock anyone down from their highest quit pedestal. I guess you can call me a pessimist but I would probably see myself falling under the category of a realist. I am also a victim of the subject in this intro post. The post on my 103rd day quit.....
When we are feeling great about anything, it makes it so much easier. When we are healthy, engaging in enjoyable activities, and/or feel that unstoppable adrenaline rush when performing a task, things are much easier. I feel like we all have a little bit of front runner in us. This can be seen in the mental well being (of lack there of) during any period of our roller coaster quits. We naturally feel invincible when we are Seattle's defense, up by 2 touchdowns with 5 minutes left. These are the easy times. The times when we are prepared for any challenges related to our quit.....
What happens when there is a lull or a letdown??? What happens when we wake up sick of posting in 15 different HOF months, saying the lingo, and/or feel a little vulnerable??? What happens if we get sick??? What happens when a family member gets sick??? What happens when we lose our job???
I think the answer is to have balance. Maybe we need to engage in a level of involvement that is sustainable for the long haul. Maybe we need to work on the bonds we have made with our close friends on KTC. Either way, we need to translate the invincible times into every moment. Complacency is a bitch. I know I can avoid it together with you all and those in my support network. QLF. Out.
While there is some truth there, let me tell you what has worked for me - post roll first. Then engage in life as it needs you.
Work to do? Do it.
Kids/wife/gf/etc wants to play? Go play.
Need a break? Take one.
Need to engage? engage.
Take what you need and leave the rest. Everybody needs to recharge the battery and we all have varying ways of doing that. That is not saying to not post roll, but if you find it impossible to do what you need to do because you cannot disengage, text your roll in. Use the tools. Pasting it forward us great and this site and all of our success is predicated on it. However, there is a saying - always pay yourself first.
This is first and foremost your quit. You cannot be here to pay it forward if you cave or if you flame out. You owe it to yourself, your family, and your brothers to manage your involvement so neither of those happen.
The whole point of quit is to take back what is yours - your life. So do it.
One thing I'm hearing after reading your first and second post and, subsequently J2B's post is that Freedom is paramount. You either want it or you don't. If after the Xth number of attempts to quit with KTC, if you find yourself back at day one so many times, then at the end of the day...you just don't want it bad enough. When you get that freedom, it's time to act like you have your freedom again. Live and do. No longer is it, have a dip and hope to live, and maybe I'll do this after I make sure I have a dip in.
These posts are incredible Sixer.
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First off, I am not writing this to discourage any new quitters. I had trouble with this concept during the beginning of my quit. Many other quitters helped me wrap my head around this idea when I began justifying my monster craves. Let's just put it this way. How would you feel if you believed in Santa Clause, found out he was part of young people's imagination, but then found evidence that he was indeed real? This is what happened...........
If you have not heard, Tony Gwynn died today at the age of 54. This story was broadcast throughout the media today. Many mainstream media outlets as well as those that predominantly report on athletics informed the public of his death. Many of these media outlets explained that he had a career average of .338 or that he had over 3100 career hits. Very limited news reports explained stories about his son accidentally drinking from "spitters" when he was a child, how Gwynn left his house at 2 AM to buy tins of dip at the convenient store after attempted to quit cold turkey, and/or about how he dipped over a tin and a half per day for over 30 years. I did not hear however on a SINGLE news report that he died from using smokeless tobacco. News reports simply called it "cancer".
Earlier in my quit I was under the impression that every single person, organization, or health care affiliate on this earth explained to the public that dip causes cancer which in turn causes death. After countless research, I began understanding many doctors will not "go on record" as stating smokeless causes cancer. I found this to be absurd. I began to realize that many of these above mentioned groups or people had agendas. Many worked for politicians, big tobacco, or were justifying their own habit or dipping. After hearing and reading about how many could not go on record as to cause and effect for dip, I began to justify a cave based upon these bogus assumptions. I spoke with many quitters and they helped re-focus my attention on the truth and the causation and the slavery aspect. Here we are, 106 days today.
The Comprehensive Smokeless Tobacco Health Education Act was passed in 1986. This act required all smokeless companies to put "this product may cause mouth cancer" on the side of tins in a three warning rotation. "Warning Labels" are the middle labels and indicate a "potentially hazardous situation that, if not avoided, could result in death or serious injury." These warnings began to get entrenched in my mind. How many lawyers does big tobacco have? How many lobbyists does big tobacco have? How many politicians does big tobacco have in their pocket? Warning labels can not be good for business, correct? Big tobacco must have fought this in the early 80's. The battle must have been ferocious between Congress and Big Tobacco. The fact that Warning Labels were in fact placed on tins of dip is in fact a "go on record" moment. I do not see too many "this product may cause cancer" on many products. These products INCLUDE those that doctors have "gone on record" as saying they cause cancer lol. This is reason enough to think the product does indeed cause cancer....The other reason is that (not reported) Tony Gwynn himself said his years of dipping caused his death!!!
We know we have the resolve to do this. We will not allow those with agendas to kill us off for money. When you are thinking about justifying a cave because "it doesn't even cause cancer" just remember it does and will be you. Thank everyone. Stay quit. Out.
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Where the F are you!???
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Where the F are you!???
Dominican Republic. He'll be back today (:
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Where the F are you!???
Dominican Republic. He'll be back today (:
lucky b'tard!
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Where the F are you!???
Dominican Republic. He'll be back today (:
lucky b'tard!
let's hope he leaves the sand outside and does not mess the floor.
of course if its in the wrong place.....yikes
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I feel like the guy that would get tired of waking up to Jennifer Lopez every morning. Feeling this way because being quit is one of the best things that has ever happened to me....
Most of the funks i have had since my first day have involved heavy craving and urges. Many times my stale attitude about my quit was just an excuse my mind was developing in an attempt to get me to use again. Funks, for the noobs, are small periods of time in our quit when we feel low, frustrated, or some lack of motivation. We may get tired of logging into our accounts, talking in chat, listening to the "lingo" like "QLF", fighting a battle that seems endless, etc. During these times I have used this intro to vent and force myself to understand, be proactive with the funks, and remain vigilant with my quit. These stupid ass posts I have written have kept me grounded and out of the roller coaster ride that mixes the euphoric feeling of invincibility with the downtrodden emotion of vulnerability. On day 122, my funks are not accompanied by strong craves or urges to use nicotine. These funks are attempting to tell myself that I do not need KTC anymore and that I can now fight this battle alone. I have gotten tired of posting and tired of the "kool-aid". ..
Recently, I have quit posting in groups other than my own....
I have lessened my texting and PMing with other strong ass quitters...
I have lessened my availability in the live chat.....
I have lessened my duties involving the spreadsheet to about 25 percent....
I have allowed non-factors that have recently occurred on this website to legitimize my inactivity.....
I understand that the above mentioned issues will attribute to my demise...
It is too early in my quit (if ever) to lessen my involvement...
I have way too many people to help beat this addiction....
There is no such thing as being "burnt out" when referring to saving my own life...
So this is a warning.
A warning that I will be more active in newer groups.
A warning that I will be setting the groundwork for accountability.
You will be called out for behavior resembling the "planned cave" and for not posting roll.
Thank you everyone for your help. Couldn't have done it without your help. Out
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I feel like the guy that would get tired of waking up to Jennifer Lopez every morning. Feeling this way because being quit is one of the best things that has ever happened to me....
Most of the funks i have had since my first day have involved heavy craving and urges. Many times my stale attitude about my quit was just an excuse my mind was developing in an attempt to get me to use again. Funks, for the noobs, are small periods of time in our quit when we feel low, frustrated, or some lack of motivation. We may get tired of logging into our accounts, talking in chat, listening to the "lingo" like "QLF", fighting a battle that seems endless, etc. During these times I have used this intro to vent and force myself to understand, be proactive with the funks, and remain vigilant with my quit. These stupid ass posts I have written have kept me grounded and out of the roller coaster ride that mixes the euphoric feeling of invincibility with the downtrodden emotion of vulnerability. On day 122, my funks are not accompanied by strong craves or urges to use nicotine. These funks are attempting to tell myself that I do not need KTC anymore and that I can now fight this battle alone. I have gotten tired of posting and tired of the "kool-aid". ..
Recently, I have quit posting in groups other than my own....
I have lessened my texting and PMing with other strong ass quitters...
I have lessened my availability in the live chat.....
I have lessened my duties involving the spreadsheet to about 25 percent....
I have allowed non-factors that have recently occurred on this website to legitimize my inactivity.....
I understand that the above mentioned issues will attribute to my demise...
It is too early in my quit (if ever) to lessen my involvement...
I have way too many people to help beat this addiction....
There is no such thing as being "burnt out" when referring to saving my own life...
So this is a warning.
A warning that I will be more active in newer groups.
A warning that I will be setting the groundwork for accountability.
You will be called out for behavior resembling the "planned cave" and for not posting roll.
Thank you everyone for your help. Couldn't have done it without your help. Out
There have been lots of posts about funks and burn-outs. But this post is different. Others will talk about coming in and out of KTC, participating / not participating. Some will speak of sporadically not posting roll for periods of time. I'm ok with people getting burnt out. I'm ok with chilling out for a while...as long as they do one thing. POST ROLL! Sixer, despite his funk, is still a 100% roll poster. He still promised every day to stay quit. And he is still quit.
I will add that KTC is a better place when this badass is active. This guy knows how to Q.L.F!
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I feel like the guy that would get tired of waking up to Jennifer Lopez every morning. Feeling this way because being quit is one of the best things that has ever happened to me....
Most of the funks i have had since my first day have involved heavy craving and urges. Many times my stale attitude about my quit was just an excuse my mind was developing in an attempt to get me to use again. Funks, for the noobs, are small periods of time in our quit when we feel low, frustrated, or some lack of motivation. We may get tired of logging into our accounts, talking in chat, listening to the "lingo" like "QLF", fighting a battle that seems endless, etc. During these times I have used this intro to vent and force myself to understand, be proactive with the funks, and remain vigilant with my quit. These stupid ass posts I have written have kept me grounded and out of the roller coaster ride that mixes the euphoric feeling of invincibility with the downtrodden emotion of vulnerability. On day 122, my funks are not accompanied by strong craves or urges to use nicotine. These funks are attempting to tell myself that I do not need KTC anymore and that I can now fight this battle alone. I have gotten tired of posting and tired of the "kool-aid". ..
Recently, I have quit posting in groups other than my own....
I have lessened my texting and PMing with other strong ass quitters...
I have lessened my availability in the live chat.....
I have lessened my duties involving the spreadsheet to about 25 percent....
I have allowed non-factors that have recently occurred on this website to legitimize my inactivity.....
I understand that the above mentioned issues will attribute to my demise...
It is too early in my quit (if ever) to lessen my involvement...
I have way too many people to help beat this addiction....
There is no such thing as being "burnt out" when referring to saving my own life...
So this is a warning.
A warning that I will be more active in newer groups.
A warning that I will be setting the groundwork for accountability.
You will be called out for behavior resembling the "planned cave" and for not posting roll.
Thank you everyone for your help. Couldn't have done it without your help. Out
There have been lots of posts about funks and burn-outs. But this post is different. Others will talk about coming in and out of KTC, participating / not participating. Some will speak of sporadically not posting roll for periods of time. I'm ok with people getting burnt out. I'm ok with chilling out for a while...as long as they do one thing. POST ROLL! Sixer, despite his funk, is still a 100% roll poster. He still promised every day to stay quit. And he is still quit.
I will add that KTC is a better place when this badass is active. This guy knows how to Q.L.F!
Thank you for this post sixer.
Get em.
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I feel like the guy that would get tired of waking up to Jennifer Lopez every morning. Feeling this way because being quit is one of the best things that has ever happened to me....
Most of the funks i have had since my first day have involved heavy craving and urges. Many times my stale attitude about my quit was just an excuse my mind was developing in an attempt to get me to use again. Funks, for the noobs, are small periods of time in our quit when we feel low, frustrated, or some lack of motivation. We may get tired of logging into our accounts, talking in chat, listening to the "lingo" like "QLF", fighting a battle that seems endless, etc. During these times I have used this intro to vent and force myself to understand, be proactive with the funks, and remain vigilant with my quit. These stupid ass posts I have written have kept me grounded and out of the roller coaster ride that mixes the euphoric feeling of invincibility with the downtrodden emotion of vulnerability. On day 122, my funks are not accompanied by strong craves or urges to use nicotine. These funks are attempting to tell myself that I do not need KTC anymore and that I can now fight this battle alone. I have gotten tired of posting and tired of the "kool-aid". ..
Recently, I have quit posting in groups other than my own....
I have lessened my texting and PMing with other strong ass quitters...
I have lessened my availability in the live chat.....
I have lessened my duties involving the spreadsheet to about 25 percent....
I have allowed non-factors that have recently occurred on this website to legitimize my inactivity.....
I understand that the above mentioned issues will attribute to my demise...
It is too early in my quit (if ever) to lessen my involvement...
I have way too many people to help beat this addiction....
There is no such thing as being "burnt out" when referring to saving my own life...
So this is a warning.
A warning that I will be more active in newer groups.
A warning that I will be setting the groundwork for accountability.
You will be called out for behavior resembling the "planned cave" and for not posting roll.
Thank you everyone for your help. Couldn't have done it without your help. Out
There have been lots of posts about funks and burn-outs. But this post is different. Others will talk about coming in and out of KTC, participating / not participating. Some will speak of sporadically not posting roll for periods of time. I'm ok with people getting burnt out. I'm ok with chilling out for a while...as long as they do one thing. POST ROLL! Sixer, despite his funk, is still a 100% roll poster. He still promised every day to stay quit. And he is still quit.
I will add that KTC is a better place when this badass is active. This guy knows how to Q.L.F!
I would echo the same words about this guy. You will find new wind in your sails, reread your intro thread it will help.
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I feel like the guy that would get tired of waking up to Jennifer Lopez every morning. Feeling this way because being quit is one of the best things that has ever happened to me....
Most of the funks i have had since my first day have involved heavy craving and urges. Many times my stale attitude about my quit was just an excuse my mind was developing in an attempt to get me to use again. Funks, for the noobs, are small periods of time in our quit when we feel low, frustrated, or some lack of motivation. We may get tired of logging into our accounts, talking in chat, listening to the "lingo" like "QLF", fighting a battle that seems endless, etc. During these times I have used this intro to vent and force myself to understand, be proactive with the funks, and remain vigilant with my quit. These stupid ass posts I have written have kept me grounded and out of the roller coaster ride that mixes the euphoric feeling of invincibility with the downtrodden emotion of vulnerability. On day 122, my funks are not accompanied by strong craves or urges to use nicotine. These funks are attempting to tell myself that I do not need KTC anymore and that I can now fight this battle alone. I have gotten tired of posting and tired of the "kool-aid". ..
Recently, I have quit posting in groups other than my own....
I have lessened my texting and PMing with other strong ass quitters...
I have lessened my availability in the live chat.....
I have lessened my duties involving the spreadsheet to about 25 percent....
I have allowed non-factors that have recently occurred on this website to legitimize my inactivity.....
I understand that the above mentioned issues will attribute to my demise...
It is too early in my quit (if ever) to lessen my involvement...
I have way too many people to help beat this addiction....
There is no such thing as being "burnt out" when referring to saving my own life...
So this is a warning.
A warning that I will be more active in newer groups.
A warning that I will be setting the groundwork for accountability.
You will be called out for behavior resembling the "planned cave" and for not posting roll.
Thank you everyone for your help. Couldn't have done it without your help. Out
There have been lots of posts about funks and burn-outs. But this post is different. Others will talk about coming in and out of KTC, participating / not participating. Some will speak of sporadically not posting roll for periods of time. I'm ok with people getting burnt out. I'm ok with chilling out for a while...as long as they do one thing. POST ROLL! Sixer, despite his funk, is still a 100% roll poster. He still promised every day to stay quit. And he is still quit.
I will add that KTC is a better place when this badass is active. This guy knows how to Q.L.F!
I would echo the same words about this guy. You will find new wind in your sails, reread your intro thread it will help.
I like how you ended this post. Rock on!!
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I feel like the guy that would get tired of waking up to Jennifer Lopez every morning. Feeling this way because being quit is one of the best things that has ever happened to me....
Most of the funks i have had since my first day have involved heavy craving and urges. Many times my stale attitude about my quit was just an excuse my mind was developing in an attempt to get me to use again. Funks, for the noobs, are small periods of time in our quit when we feel low, frustrated, or some lack of motivation. We may get tired of logging into our accounts, talking in chat, listening to the "lingo" like "QLF", fighting a battle that seems endless, etc. During these times I have used this intro to vent and force myself to understand, be proactive with the funks, and remain vigilant with my quit. These stupid ass posts I have written have kept me grounded and out of the roller coaster ride that mixes the euphoric feeling of invincibility with the downtrodden emotion of vulnerability. On day 122, my funks are not accompanied by strong craves or urges to use nicotine. These funks are attempting to tell myself that I do not need KTC anymore and that I can now fight this battle alone. I have gotten tired of posting and tired of the "kool-aid". ..
Recently, I have quit posting in groups other than my own....
I have lessened my texting and PMing with other strong ass quitters...
I have lessened my availability in the live chat.....
I have lessened my duties involving the spreadsheet to about 25 percent....
I have allowed non-factors that have recently occurred on this website to legitimize my inactivity.....
I understand that the above mentioned issues will attribute to my demise...
It is too early in my quit (if ever) to lessen my involvement...
I have way too many people to help beat this addiction....
There is no such thing as being "burnt out" when referring to saving my own life...
So this is a warning.
A warning that I will be more active in newer groups.
A warning that I will be setting the groundwork for accountability.
You will be called out for behavior resembling the "planned cave" and for not posting roll.
Thank you everyone for your help. Couldn't have done it without your help. Out
There have been lots of posts about funks and burn-outs. But this post is different. Others will talk about coming in and out of KTC, participating / not participating. Some will speak of sporadically not posting roll for periods of time. I'm ok with people getting burnt out. I'm ok with chilling out for a while...as long as they do one thing. POST ROLL! Sixer, despite his funk, is still a 100% roll poster. He still promised every day to stay quit. And he is still quit.
I will add that KTC is a better place when this badass is active. This guy knows how to Q.L.F!
I would echo the same words about this guy. You will find new wind in your sails, reread your intro thread it will help.
I like how you ended this post. Rock on!!
Glad you took time to put down these thoughts you had in chat last night. A lot of people are vulnerable at your number of days quit. They feel they can do this on their own, fade away and bingo, we see a new day 1 because they thought they could have just have one for old time sake.
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Awesome, as usual, Brother. Damn proud to be quitting with you today.
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The tennis match is on today....
I have to go build a bench....
My girlfriends father's best friend's pet goat died....
I am going on vacation in 2017. You have to dip on vacation so why bother quitting?...
They said fuck and I don't like such language....
They made a "ghey" comment. That is just bigotry....
I think my penis was a quarter inch longer when I was dipping....
We make up excuses to use nicotine. Some excuses are just more believable. The truth is that I hate benches, tennis, and goats. Every day is a fuckin vacation. I love the word fuck. I know gay people and many of them would laugh at the usage if the word "ghey". (Only democrats that are heterosexual take offense) and finally it only looks like my penis has gotten smaller because my balls have grown since 142 days ago...
#stopplanningcaves
#stopmakingpussyexcuses
#iquitwithyouall
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The tennis match is on today....
I have to go build a bench....
My girlfriends father's best friend's pet goat died....
I am going on vacation in 2017. You have to dip on vacation so why bother quitting?...
They said fuck and I don't like such language....
They made a "ghey" comment. That is just bigotry....
I think my penis was a quarter inch longer when I was dipping....
We make up excuses to use nicotine. Some excuses are just more believable. The truth is that I hate benches, tennis, and goats. Every day is a fuckin vacation. I love the word fuck. I know gay people and many of them would laugh at the usage if the word "ghey". (Only democrats that are heterosexual take offense) and finally it only looks like my penis has gotten smaller because my balls have grown since 142 days ago...
#stopplanningcaves
#stopmakingpussyexcuses
#iquitwithyouall
Quite possibly the Gheyest, fucking post I have ever read. Only kidding, bro. Great post and perspective.
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The tennis match is on today....
I have to go build a bench....
My girlfriends father's best friend's pet goat died....
I am going on vacation in 2017. You have to dip on vacation so why bother quitting?...
They said fuck and I don't like such language....
They made a "ghey" comment. That is just bigotry....
I think my penis was a quarter inch longer when I was dipping....
We make up excuses to use nicotine. Some excuses are just more believable. The truth is that I hate benches, tennis, and goats. Every day is a fuckin vacation. I love the word fuck. I know gay people and many of them would laugh at the usage if the word "ghey". (Only democrats that are heterosexual take offense) and finally it only looks like my penis has gotten smaller because my balls have grown since 142 days ago...
#stopplanningcaves
#stopmakingpussyexcuses
#iquitwithyouall
Quite possibly the Gheyest, fucking post I have ever read. Only kidding, bro. Great post and perspective.
Impressive ... several gems in there to add to the toolbox. Thanks for that my small-dicked compared to my balls brother. 'winker'
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The tennis match is on today....
I have to go build a bench....
My girlfriends father's best friend's pet goat died....
I am going on vacation in 2017. You have to dip on vacation so why bother quitting?...
They said fuck and I don't like such language....
They made a "ghey" comment. That is just bigotry....
I think my penis was a quarter inch longer when I was dipping....
We make up excuses to use nicotine. Some excuses are just more believable. The truth is that I hate benches, tennis, and goats. Every day is a fuckin vacation. I love the word fuck. I know gay people and many of them would laugh at the usage if the word "ghey". (Only democrats that are heterosexual take offense) and finally it only looks like my penis has gotten smaller because my balls have grown since 142 days ago...
#stopplanningcaves
#stopmakingpussyexcuses
#iquitwithyouall
Quite possibly the Gheyest, fucking post I have ever read. Only kidding, bro. Great post and perspective.
Impressive ... several gems in there to add to the toolbox. Thanks for that my small-dicked compared to my balls brother. 'winker'
But these Goats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnVv0RkiG4U) are really cool...
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The tennis match is on today....
I have to go build a bench....
My girlfriends father's best friend's pet goat died....
I am going on vacation in 2017. You have to dip on vacation so why bother quitting?...
They said fuck and I don't like such language....
They made a "ghey" comment. That is just bigotry....
I think my penis was a quarter inch longer when I was dipping....
We make up excuses to use nicotine. Some excuses are just more believable. The truth is that I hate benches, tennis, and goats. Every day is a fuckin vacation. I love the word fuck. I know gay people and many of them would laugh at the usage if the word "ghey". (Only democrats that are heterosexual take offense) and finally it only looks like my penis has gotten smaller because my balls have grown since 142 days ago...
#stopplanningcaves
#stopmakingpussyexcuses
#iquitwithyouall
Quite possibly the Gheyest, fucking post I have ever read. Only kidding, bro. Great post and perspective.
Impressive ... several gems in there to add to the toolbox. Thanks for that my small-dicked compared to my balls brother. 'winker'
But these Goats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnVv0RkiG4U) are really cool...
just friggin hilarious.....oh my god hahahha
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Some may think we are too harsh....
Or act like "tough guys"...
Or too aggressive....
Or over the top....
Or need to give people that fuck up a "break"....
Or we are scaring away new quitters....
Well if people are going to get offended so easily then they probably will not be able to beat this addiction. That means they are a weak link. Quitters need to feel like KTC is the only program that will keep them quit. Quitters need to feel like their inner circle of quitters are the only support that will ever help them quit. Quitters need to feel like if they were to cave, they would be unwelcome back to KTC and into this support group. Trust is built over time. In closing, we act "harsh" because we want quitters to feel like if they choose to abandon their support network and KTC, then there is a good chance they will never be able to quit the bitch. We are a selected group. We accept mistakes when people ask for forgiveness, but they are limited. I for one understand this. I will not back down and become soft. I will not abandon my ktc crew and all it's members. This is truly my last chance. Stay quit brothers. Thanks again.
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Some may think we are too harsh....
Or act like "tough guys"...
Or too aggressive....
Or over the top....
Or need to give people that fuck up a "break"....
Or we are scaring away new quitters....
Well if people are going to get offended so easily then they probably will not be able to beat this addiction. That means they are a weak link. Quitters need to feel like KTC is the only program that will keep them quit. Quitters need to feel like their inner circle of quitters are the only support that will ever help them quit. Quitters need to feel like if they were to cave, they would be unwelcome back to KTC and into this support group. Trust is built over time. In closing, we act "harsh" because we want quitters to feel like if they choose to abandon their support network and KTC, then there is a good chance they will never be able to quit the bitch. We are a selected group. We accept mistakes when people ask for forgiveness, but they are limited. I for one understand this. I will not back down and become soft. I will not abandon my ktc crew and all it's members. This is truly my last chance. Stay quit brothers. Thanks again.
good post, sixer, thank you.
Complacency was something I battled from very early in my quit and to a degree I still do. push through it. Keep up the good work
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Some may think we are too harsh....
Or act like "tough guys"...
Or too aggressive....
Or over the top....
Or need to give people that fuck up a "break"....
Or we are scaring away new quitters....
Well if people are going to get offended so easily then they probably will not be able to beat this addiction. That means they are a weak link. Quitters need to feel like KTC is the only program that will keep them quit. Quitters need to feel like their inner circle of quitters are the only support that will ever help them quit. Quitters need to feel like if they were to cave, they would be unwelcome back to KTC and into this support group. Trust is built over time. In closing, we act "harsh" because we want quitters to feel like if they choose to abandon their support network and KTC, then there is a good chance they will never be able to quit the bitch. We are a selected group. We accept mistakes when people ask for forgiveness, but they are limited. I for one understand this. I will not back down and become soft. I will not abandon my ktc crew and all it's members. This is truly my last chance. Stay quit brothers. Thanks again.
good post, sixer, thank you.
Complacency was something I battled from very early in my quit and to a degree I still do. push through it. Keep up the good work
Good stuff, Six. As usual.
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Some may think we are too harsh....
Or act like "tough guys"...
Or too aggressive....
Or over the top....
Or need to give people that fuck up a "break"....
Or we are scaring away new quitters....
Well if people are going to get offended so easily then they probably will not be able to beat this addiction. That means they are a weak link. Quitters need to feel like KTC is the only program that will keep them quit. Quitters need to feel like their inner circle of quitters are the only support that will ever help them quit. Quitters need to feel like if they were to cave, they would be unwelcome back to KTC and into this support group. Trust is built over time. In closing, we act "harsh" because we want quitters to feel like if they choose to abandon their support network and KTC, then there is a good chance they will never be able to quit the bitch. We are a selected group. We accept mistakes when people ask for forgiveness, but they are limited. I for one understand this. I will not back down and become soft. I will not abandon my ktc crew and all it's members. This is truly my last chance. Stay quit brothers. Thanks again.
good post, sixer, thank you.
Complacency was something I battled from very early in my quit and to a degree I still do. push through it. Keep up the good work
Good stuff, Six. As usual.
Spot on friend. Keep spreading the "word".
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My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.
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My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.
Great idea Sixer! Thank you for caring so much about everyone else's quit.
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My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.
Great idea Sixer! Thank you for caring so much about everyone else's quit.
Agreed, me likey! Would you be alright with me quoting this in July 2014? Would be great to polarize the group, and give us a thing to focus on. We're in our HOF month, and I've read too many stories of people fading away after 100. This takes on some huge meaning moving forwards Sixer ... I feel it could be some additional glue to bind groups together, both new and "cagey". Thanks bro ... No warning track power here, out of the PARK!
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My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.
Great idea Sixer! Thank you for caring so much about everyone else's quit.
Agreed, me likey! Would you be alright with me quoting this in July 2014? Would be great to polarize the group, and give us a thing to focus on. We're in our HOF month, and I've read too many stories of people fading away after 100. This takes on some huge meaning moving forwards Sixer ... I feel it could be some additional glue to bind groups together, both new and "cagey". Thanks bro ... No warning track power here, out of the PARK!
Do whatever you think will help people stay quit dude. Thanks...
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My hall of fame coin came in the mail two weeks ago. The coin was purchased by Wintergreen. WG is a member of March and has been instrumental to my quit. There were many people that helped me during my early days. I would stay in live chat for hour, write in this intro, and just soak up the info from other members. WG must have saw some sort of positive trait early on and informed me that he was going to buy my HOF coin and have it sent it to my home if I fulfilled two expectations. The first being that I remained quit through the first 100 days and the other was to a 100 percent poster through the century mark. I knew these arrangements were commonplace on KTC. I did not however understand the effect this pact would have on my continued dedication to the fight. It gave me extra motivation and accountability. I once again thank you WG for your help through the tough days.......
After recent developments in October, a tight group of June quitters began exploring ways to help new quitters sustain the vigor throughout the shitty days and into those that are not only bearable, but enjoyable. I could help but about the pact with the coin. We have decided to initiate a KTC program that is expected to be sustainable by successive groups in the future. Seven members of June will be selected to stand on review team for a competition. This review team will observe members of October. Upon reaching the HOF, this team will select two or three members (TBA) of October that will be awarded HOF coins courtesy of our group. The parameters for this contest would reflect the characteristics of KTC. These would be accountability, brotherhood, roll percentage, activity within the site, and overall citizenship involved with being a mentor within the group. Hopefully the July group would then continue the trend for November. August for December and so on. As mentioned before, the promise to purchase a coin for myself had a positive impact on my single quit. If this was opened up to an entire group as part of a reward, everyone could be positively affected by it. We could also have a James Gordon worst member of the group lol but I think that may reward fucktard behavior. Maybe this is a good idea, Maybe it isn't. I would like people's opinion on it. I welcome criticism and your thoughts so please let them rip. Thanks.
Great idea Sixer! Thank you for caring so much about everyone else's quit.
Agreed, me likey! Would you be alright with me quoting this in July 2014? Would be great to polarize the group, and give us a thing to focus on. We're in our HOF month, and I've read too many stories of people fading away after 100. This takes on some huge meaning moving forwards Sixer ... I feel it could be some additional glue to bind groups together, both new and "cagey". Thanks bro ... No warning track power here, out of the PARK!
Do whatever you think will help people stay quit dude. Thanks...
Six, you are the MAN, Man. Im happy to reignite the coin trend. I could tell from the beginning that you where going to play an important role here at KTC. Thanks for the recognition too brother, you strengthened my quit with this post. Keep on keepin on my friend.
Winter Green~~237
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The month of July is coming to a close. I have many close quitters sprinkled throughout July and the months to follow. I can't help but remember when our month of June was in the above "pre" hof" entries. We were among the first groups that were viewed. Veterans and newcomers alike post support roll in many of the pre hof groups. Members of current pre hof groups: what are you going to do when your group name is on the bottom? What are you going to do when your group is placed among the hundred other groups on the site? What are you going to do when YOU are the ones that are Relied upon to just simply support the new groups?.....
It is easy to get complacent. To not post roll anymore. To not lend your support to others. To forget about what got you here. Stay as vigilant as ever. Stay supportive without expecting anything in return. You are now the role models of KTC. Let's get ready for 200 and beyond.
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I feel like being accountable for our actions and the labeling of a disease are very different. Diseases can obviously be self-inflicted and victimless or can affect those innocent or without fault. I doubt either is deserved. I also doubt people even think they suffer from a disease until they are within the quitting stage of addiction. Many "people smoking while on oxygen" probably always thought it wouldnt happen to them and woke up one day with not only a big fuckin surprise, but an addiction that spiraled out of control and could not be stopped under their own power and will. Addiction to drugs and chemicals is much different than that of food or habitual actions such as banging hookers or jerking off. I doubt I will get the sweats, not be able to take a shit/shit too much, not being able to sleep, not be able to concentrate while I stare at a computer screen in a fog, not be able to digest a meal, etc if I was a serial fapper that got his hands cut off after stealing a pack of gum in Libya. Anyway, if it were simply a choice to not dip, then I wouldnt need KTC or the great friends like you guys to help me out. Without that, I highly doubt I would be quit today and would be labeled as some excuse maker with a lack of accountability.
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I'm so grateful for you friendship, brotherhood and the example you set for quitters. So frickin proud to be part of your quitwork!
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I'm so grateful for you friendship, brotherhood and the example you set for quitters. So frickin proud to be part of your quitwork!
Quitwork is an awesome word! Proud to be here with you Sixer, you are a hell of a quitter!
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This may cause a stir but I would like to know some honest opinions. I understand this is predominantly a dip site but here it goes...
I grew up around multiple generations of smokers. This included father, mother, gmom and gdads, aunts and uncles, and friends of the family. This history and my lasting 2 week funk at around a buck and a half, has made me think deeply (maybe too deep) about being around smokers. Recently, I have craved smoking much more than dip. Maybe I have my guard up from dip....maybe my heavy involvement in ktc (a dip site) has taken dip off the table and my addict mind is trying to nic anyway it can...maybe it's because of other reasons....
If someone caves like a pussy, their mind and physical addiction goes back to day one. They go through the suck again. They revisit the days of "suck". Cigarettes have much less nic than dip. According to the Canadian lung association (I know it's canada....it's for Jubella), second hand smoke has two times as much tar and NIC than the smoke that is inhaled by the smoker. Has this been the reason behind my awful funks around day buck fifty and 60??? Have I been around second smoke too much and have actually inadvertently inhaled nic? I know it's reaching, bu I'm tired of this funk bullshit. Quit on and quit hard fuckers....out
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This may cause a stir but I would like to know some honest opinions. I understand this is predominantly a dip site but here it goes...
I grew up around multiple generations of smokers. This included father, mother, gmom and gdads, aunts and uncles, and friends of the family. This history and my lasting 2 week funk at around a buck and a half, has made me think deeply (maybe too deep) about being around smokers. Recently, I have craved smoking much more than dip. Maybe I have my guard up from dip....maybe my heavy involvement in ktc (a dip site) has taken dip off the table and my addict mind is trying to nic anyway it can...maybe it's because of other reasons....
If someone caves like a pussy, their mind and physical addiction goes back to day one. They go through the suck again. They revisit the days of "suck". Cigarettes have much less nic than dip. According to the Canadian lung association (I know it's canada....it's for Jubella), second hand smoke has two times as much tar and NIC than the smoke that is inhaled by the smoker. Has this been the reason behind my awful funks around day buck fifty and 60??? Have I been around second smoke too much and have actually inadvertently inhaled nic? I know it's reaching, bu I'm tired of this funk bullshit. Quit on and quit hard fuckers....out
If you're in a smoked filled area for an extended period then you're getting nic and you're having withdrawals, IMHO.
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This may cause a stir but I would like to know some honest opinions. I understand this is predominantly a dip site but here it goes...
I grew up around multiple generations of smokers. This included father, mother, gmom and gdads, aunts and uncles, and friends of the family. This history and my lasting 2 week funk at around a buck and a half, has made me think deeply (maybe too deep) about being around smokers. Recently, I have craved smoking much more than dip. Maybe I have my guard up from dip....maybe my heavy involvement in ktc (a dip site) has taken dip off the table and my addict mind is trying to nic anyway it can...maybe it's because of other reasons....
If someone caves like a pussy, their mind and physical addiction goes back to day one. They go through the suck again. They revisit the days of "suck". Cigarettes have much less nic than dip. According to the Canadian lung association (I know it's canada....it's for Jubella), second hand smoke has two times as much tar and NIC than the smoke that is inhaled by the smoker. Has this been the reason behind my awful funks around day buck fifty and 60??? Have I been around second smoke too much and have actually inadvertently inhaled nic? I know it's reaching, bu I'm tired of this funk bullshit. Quit on and quit hard fuckers....out
If you're in a smoked filled area for an extended period then you're getting nic and you're having withdrawals, IMHO.
Trust me man...
The same thing happens to me when I hang out with the in-laws or with my friends. I get random white knuckle moments. They aren't much, but they do exist.
It passes man. You can do this.
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I have the same problems on the rigs I work on. I used to smoke a pack of reds and chew a can a day and when I get "smoked out" by these oilfield guys, I find I get some withdrawal headaches, fog, and a pretty decent sized craving for a smoke (this one becomes less frequent even at day 36).
I also sometimes focus so much on dip that I forget I was a smoker too. But I know that if I cave, I'm going right back to a pack and can a day. And for me that is scary enough to keep my guard up 24/7.
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This post has no intentions of glorifying the tobacco plant itself. It does however explain the amazing potential benefits of the plant while spreading our hatred for big tobacco and its immoral choke-hold on its usage. Tobacco is one of the most pliable species on earth. It is considered the crown jewel of artificial engineering. Tobacco plants can be "factories for therapeutic proteins and other useful substances". Scientists have consistently utilized tobacco plants as ways to produce helpful by-products for human and non-human usage. Scientists are able to insert different types of genes into tobacco plants. Tobacco plants then conform the proteins of these genes and duplicate this conformation quicker than any other plant on the planet. The final product is then extracted from the tobacco plant after it is mutated. Scientists hope to one day use this process in potential cures for cancer and other deadly diseases.
This topic is being written about because tobacco is once again in the news. Just in case you live under a rock, two health professionals that have been infected with the Ebola virus have been transported to a American hospital. These two patients have been administered an experimental drug called Zmapp. This drug has been in a trial phase with primates with sizable "success". The drug is manufactured through the above mentioned process by Reynolds Tobacco, one of the first major tobacco companies in the United States. These tobacco companies are aware of the potential "doctoring" of the plant. It has been widely known that laboratories have been able to remove nicotine from the roots of the plant (Nicotine is derived from the root and spreads throughout the leaves of the plant.) and effectively manufacture tobacco products that are nicotine free but surprisingly not available to the public. In closing, it is pretty fucked up that the plant that we used for years and decades, can potentially kill one of the worst viruses on the face of the planet. Either that, or Big Tobacco is once again lying to the public about the effects of this new "wonder drug". Stay quit.
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This post has no intentions of glorifying the tobacco plant itself. It does however explain the amazing potential benefits of the plant while spreading our hatred for big tobacco and its immoral choke-hold on its usage. Tobacco is one of the most pliable species on earth. It is considered the crown jewel of artificial engineering. Tobacco plants can be "factories for therapeutic proteins and other useful substances". Scientists have consistently utilized tobacco plants as ways to produce helpful by-products for human and non-human usage. Scientists are able to insert different types of genes into tobacco plants. Tobacco plants then conform the proteins of these genes and duplicate this conformation quicker than any other plant on the planet. The final product is then extracted from the tobacco plant after it is mutated. Scientists hope to one day use this process in potential cures for cancer and other deadly diseases.
This topic is being written about because tobacco is once again in the news. Just in case you live under a rock, two health professionals that have been infected with the Ebola virus have been transported to a American hospital. These two patients have been administered an experimental drug called Zmapp. This drug has been in a trial phase with primates with sizable "success". The drug is manufactured through the above mentioned process by Reynolds Tobacco, one of the first major tobacco companies in the United States. These tobacco companies are aware of the potential "doctoring" of the plant. It has been widely known that laboratories have been able to remove nicotine from the roots of the plant (Nicotine is derived from the root and spreads throughout the leaves of the plant.) and effectively manufacture tobacco products that are nicotine free but surprisingly not available to the public. In closing, it is pretty fucked up that the plant that we used for years and decades, can potentially kill one of the worst viruses on the face of the planet. Either that, or Big Tobacco is once again lying to the public about the effects of this new "wonder drug". Stay quit.
Interesting stuff Sixer.
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.
Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.
Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.
I agree Steak. These words are golden
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.
Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.
I agree Steak. These words are golden
'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.
Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.
I agree Steak. These words are golden
'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Love it.
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.
Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.
I agree Steak. These words are golden
'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Love it.
add this to your Labor Day reading list
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.
Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.
I agree Steak. These words are golden
'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Love it.
add this to your Labor Day reading list
Once again 6er knocks it into the left field bleachers.
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To All New Members:
When you clicked on the register button on the site or the chat room, you took a big step towards regaining your freedom. This is the first step in strengthening your final quit. We have some non-negotiable expectations that must be fulfilled. You must post roll, honor your word, and take responsibility for your actions. We will never claim to have all the answers and we will never have the ability to quit for you. You must want this and be willing do do whatever it takes to succeed. We will however lend you "support" utilizing two different methods. These two methods have been tested over time and have proven to be effective in dealing with nicotine addiction. The first is the obvious support. We help you along through your quit with empathetic advice, re-focus, and other methods that are helpful when related to your quit. These oftentimes help while in the moment of urging and craving. It allows you to learn from others that have traveled the path you are on and for you to one day help others. Prior to the second method, first a little background information about the community you are about to join. The website is an offspring that was formed to direct attention to serious quitters. KTC is also known in older circles as Quit Smokeless Extreme. This name was given because it is just that- Extreme. We are an uncensored brand of accountability. This is the first method of support. We have zero tolerance for weak resolve that lacks self-accountability. Your web of accountability is built through relationships on the site with individual members/groups. The accountability aspect will force you to stay quit during tough times by you thinking "I cant let down my boys/girls" and/or "If I throw this dip in, I will be rejected from the group and be scorned forever". Be forewarned, you may hear some language and approaches that you may not expect. This "tough love" approach works. You will understand this as your quit grows. When someone does not fulfill expectations such as posting roll, self-accountability, lack of entitlement, and characteristics such as remaining humble, you should expect for other members to publicly voice displeasure in a variety of different ways. I will see you on roll call. Take what you want, leave the rest. We quit with you today.
Good stuff. Hopefully some new guy reads this and it helps him/her.
Attention admins and mods, this needs to go on the welcome page of the main site.
I agree Steak. These words are golden
'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Love it.
add this to your Labor Day reading list
Once again 6er knocks it into the left field bleachers.
Awesome Stuff. Pure sweet KTC kook-aid.
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Drama is not a new concept to KTC. It comes and it goes. Unfortunately, people continue to fan the fire. On the record there have been 3-4 four people voicing their dissenting opinion regarding "the app" (cant say the name). I was a member of the four that thought WE needed balance between the two, not total abolition of one or the other.
I personally made a mistake that I can admit. In October, someone asked a question about a hacker and I ASSUMED the negative. I responded to it in that fashion and I was wrong. Even if I privately believe it, I shouldn't publicly state it because I too can be wrong.
I dont usually speak for people. But I will in this situation. We are all parts of different HOF groups. These groups have young "know it alls" and "old dinosaurs". We are parts of these groups because we all go through the same emotional and physical issues around the same time period as a result of our addiction. We can relate to each other, share experiences, and methods of quitting. Make no mistake, We are all however MEMBERS of the same KTC community. Not one SINGLE FUCKING PERSON on here wishes anyone to fail. I dont care about the differences. Or the attacks. Or the speech in private messages on the boards. You may feel certain members dislike you, but I am 100 % percent certain that they hate nicotine more than you. So lets not repeat my mistakes continuously. Let's not assume every post regarding activity or KTC is a shot below the belt at "the app". Let's stop assuming that someone's harsh public words mean they want your to cave. Let's pull up our big boy pants and move on. Day 203. I quit with all of you today.
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Drama is not a new concept to KTC. It comes and it goes. Unfortunately, people continue to fan the fire. On the record there have been 3-4 four people voicing their dissenting opinion regarding "the app" (cant say the name). I was a member of the four that thought WE needed balance between the two, not total abolition of one or the other.
I personally made a mistake that I can admit. In October, someone asked a question about a hacker and I ASSUMED the negative. I responded to it in that fashion and I was wrong. Even if I privately believe it, I shouldn't publicly state it because I too can be wrong.
I dont usually speak for people. But I will in this situation. We are all parts of different HOF groups. These groups have young "know it alls" and "old dinosaurs". We are parts of these groups because we all go through the same emotional and physical issues around the same time period as a result of our addiction. We can relate to each other, share experiences, and methods of quitting. Make no mistake, We are all however MEMBERS of the same KTC community. Not one SINGLE FUCKING PERSON on here wishes anyone to fail. I dont care about the differences. Or the attacks. Or the speech in private messages on the boards. You may feel certain members dislike you, but I am 100 % percent certain that they hate nicotine more than you. So lets not repeat my mistakes continuously. Let's not assume every post regarding activity or KTC is a shot below the belt at "the app". Let's stop assuming that someone's harsh public words mean they want your to cave. Let's pull up our big boy pants and move on. Day 203. I quit with all of you today.
Nice nugget here, Six. I took away things from this post.. so thank you.
Just a few of my favorite points:
1. "the app" is great. But if not for KTC, would any of us be on "the app" ? Balance
2. Are there members who are "dicks". For sure. I'm probably viewed as one by a few. Great. I quit today with you and will help you stay quit however. Perspective
We are here for a common goal, to quit and stay quit. Our enemy is not one another... it's nicotine. I'm guilty of forgetting why I came here in the first place, also. You take it for granted. That is something I will change in my next 100 days here. I need to go back to my roots.
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Happy birthday!
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It has been a while.....
Last summer, I was walking into a supermarket, when a pickup truck sped through the parking lot and quickly stopped in the front of the store. I thought I was in a scene from "The Town" and was about to witness my first robbery. The man that jumped out of the passenger seat of the pickup ran towards the entrance. He stopped at the stand alone cylinder ash trays that stand outside the doors. The man two hand scooped the used cigarettes and ran into the truck. The driver then quickly drove off.
Not only is the story funny and pathetic, it helps me relate to KTC and our quits. You can not quit for your wife. You can not quit for your kids. You can not quit because you have a sore in your mouth. You can not quit because you want to buy a new truck and you need more money. You can not quit because you are embarrassed to dip. You can not quit because tobacco is going to kill you. The sore will go away. You have tried to quit for your family before. You will come across a surplus of cash someday. You have been successful at ninja dipping before. Something happening years from now will not effect you today. People walk around with oxygen tanks while smoking butts. People get teeth pulled and still dip. People have lost jaws and still attempt to dip. People pull up to stores and steal used butts from strangers that are in ash trays.
We need quit for ourselves. We need to quit because we are sick of being tied to something that controls us, makes us feel like shit every day, and prohibits some of you from scoring with females. Now that I look back, the purpose of my life used to be to get my nicotine fix all day, every day. I live for more today. I didnt quit for my family but today I am living with them as one of my main purposes. Stay quit all. Day 249 and counting.
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It has been a while.....
Last summer, I was walking into a supermarket, when a pickup truck sped through the parking lot and quickly stopped in the front of the store. I thought I was in a scene from "The Town" and was about to witness my first robbery. The man that jumped out of the passenger seat of the pickup ran towards the entrance. He stopped at the stand alone cylinder ash trays that stand outside the doors. The man two hand scooped the used cigarettes and ran into the truck. The driver then quickly drove off.
Not only is the story funny and pathetic, it helps me relate to KTC and our quits. You can not quit for your wife. You can not quit for your kids. You can not quit because you have a sore in your mouth. You can not quit because you want to buy a new truck and you need more money. You can not quit because you are embarrassed to dip. You can not quit because tobacco is going to kill you. The sore will go away. You have tried to quit for your family before. You will come across a surplus of cash someday. You have been successful at ninja dipping before. Something happening years from now will not effect you today. People walk around with oxygen tanks while smoking butts. People get teeth pulled and still dip. People have lost jaws and still attempt to dip. People pull up to stores and steal used butts from strangers that are in ash trays.
We need quit for ourselves. We need to quit because we are sick of being tied to something that controls us, makes us feel like shit every day, and prohibits some of you from scoring with females. Now that I look back, the purpose of my life used to be to get my nicotine fix all day, every day. I live for more today. I didnt quit for my family but today I am living with them as one of my main purposes. Stay quit all. Day 249 and counting.
Nice story. The lows we have endured just to get a unit of nicotine. Pathetic.
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300 Fucking days!! Way to go bro!! 'oh yeah' 'Sing and Drink' 'Cheers'
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300 Fucking days!! Way to go bro!! 'oh yeah' 'Sing and Drink' 'Cheers'
Nice work Sixer! 300 is a great milestone! Proud to quit with you today!
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300 Fucking days!! Way to go bro!! 'oh yeah' 'Sing and Drink' 'Cheers'
Nice work Sixer! 300 is a great milestone! Proud to quit with you today!
Congrats on the big 3-0-0! Next stop, one year.
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300 Fucking days!! Way to go bro!! 'oh yeah' 'Sing and Drink' 'Cheers'
Nice work Sixer! 300 is a great milestone! Proud to quit with you today!
Congrats on the big 3-0-0! Next stop, one year.
Congrats, 6r! Welcome to the 3rd floor.
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Thank you everyone
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Congrats on 500!!!
Very nice!
Glad to quit with you today.
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Nice 500 brother. Thanks for helping kick out June Goon asses into shape.
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BAAAADDDDASSSSSS you are. Damn proud to be a member of June 14 with ya
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I used to be a complete disaster when I first quit lol. I will.never return to the suck.
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Maybe I am the wrong person to bring it up but...
It has been a long time since I posted in the Introduction section. I have still posted roll every day and support in some other groups but I guess I was leaving some of the outspoken quit comments to those that have been more active. I cant help but throw my 2 cents in about some of the on-goings in the new quit groups. There seems to be an influx in the amount of people returning to the site after using nicotine. Some recently active and others returning from a hiatus as long as years. It seems to be occurring on a daily basis. While in chat and June's group text, I realized that this may be sending catastrophic messages to those that are fighting the bitch every day. There are highs and lows to every quit. Those in a "funk" may look at the returning "cavers" and think that it is acceptable to use nicotine and just return to post a day 1. I have a message and a promise to those that may be feeling this way:
It is completely unacceptable to lie to those that care about you and fight each day together with you against nicotine. I can not describe the shitty lonely and desolate feeling that you will have if you choose to be a pussy. After about 30 seconds, you will feel defeated and wish you never went back. Those that are fighting every day have their integrity intact. You may never regain the trust of people in your NEW group or by those on KTC. This means that you would be fucked. You would be back to quitting on your own, which probably would mean going back to dying on your own. Craves will pass. Funks will go get fucked. Stop thinking about dip next week, next year, when you are 70, etc, but think about today. Wake up and repeat.
Listen to the message: Caving is not acceptable. You would have to be a lucky fuck to return to the site and be welcomed as an equal.
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Maybe I am the wrong person to bring it up but...
It has been a long time since I posted in the Introduction section. I have still posted roll every day and support in some other groups but I guess I was leaving some of the outspoken quit comments to those that have been more active. I cant help but throw my 2 cents in about some of the on-goings in the new quit groups. There seems to be an influx in the amount of people returning to the site after using nicotine. Some recently active and others returning from a hiatus as long as years. It seems to be occurring on a daily basis. While in chat and June's group text, I realized that this may be sending catastrophic messages to those that are fighting the bitch every day. There are highs and lows to every quit. Those in a "funk" may look at the returning "cavers" and think that it is acceptable to use nicotine and just return to post a day 1. I have a message and a promise to those that may be feeling this way:
It is completely unacceptable to lie to those that care about you and fight each day together with you against nicotine. I can not describe the shitty lonely and desolate feeling that you will have if you choose to be a pussy. After about 30 seconds, you will feel defeated and wish you never went back. Those that are fighting every day have their integrity intact. You may never regain the trust of people in your NEW group or by those on KTC. This means that you would be fucked. You would be back to quitting on your own, which probably would mean going back to dying on your own. Craves will pass. Funks will go get fucked. Stop thinking about dip next week, next year, when you are 70, etc, but think about today. Wake up and repeat.
Listen to the message: Caving is not acceptable. You would have to be a lucky fuck to return to the site and be welcomed as an equal.
Fuckin' A Sixer! Well said!