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Title: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 27, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
I started chewing about a year and a half ago when I was 16 years old. I have been wanting to quit for the last 6 months or so, but it has been so hard for me. I just recently have turned 18 and have been trying extremely hard not to just run to the gas station and pick up a new can for myself. The longest I have made it in my attempts is only 7 days before I crack and go back to a can a day.

Since I have turned 18 I have been experiencing really scary symtoms. I have done research on colon cancer and I am not really sure that I have it, but I am very freaked out about it and it is giving me even more of a drive to stop completely. During the last month or so I have had on and off diarrhea (I started drinking tea around this time and I have found that this could be the cause). During the last few days I have had a few normal BM's, but there has been a day that I had diarrhea that had a reddish tinge to it. This was after eating pizza, so I think it may just be the tomato sauce which caused it. Then today I have had a normal BM but it contained a lot of mucus which started to worry me again. I do have food allergies which maybe be the source. Either way I want to be tobacco free from now on and am doing whatever it takes to quit completely.

I have tried alternatives such as snus pouches, sunflower seeds, and jerky chew. None of which have helped me too much. I am wondering what I should do to help me along, without ordering the tobacco-free snuff online.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on August 27, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I started chewing about a year and a half ago when I was 16 years old. I have been wanting to quit for the last 6 months or so, but it has been so hard for me. I just recently have turned 18 and have been trying extremely hard not to just run to the gas station and pick up a new can for myself. The longest I have made it in my attempts is only 7 days before I crack and go back to a can a day.

Since I have turned 18 I have been experiencing really scary symtoms. I have done research on colon cancer and I am not really sure that I have it, but I am very freaked out about it and it is giving me even more of a drive to stop completely. During the last month or so I have had on and off diarrhea (I started drinking tea around this time and I have found that this could be the cause). During the last few days I have had a few normal BM's, but there has been a day that I had diarrhea that had a reddish tinge to it. This was after eating pizza, so I think it may just be the tomato sauce which caused it. Then today I have had a normal BM but it contained a lot of mucus which started to worry me again. I do have food allergies which maybe be the source. Either way I want to be tobacco free from now on and am doing whatever it takes to quit completely.

I have tried alternatives such as snus pouches, sunflower seeds, and jerky chew. None of which have helped me too much. I am wondering what I should do to help me along, without ordering the tobacco-free snuff online.
WOW 18 n bullet proof and you are here. Well welcome. go to the top of the page and check into the welcome center read read read. Find your group which is December post roll. When you post roll you give your word that you will quit chewing for today. Get up tomorrow and repeat. We quit one day at a time ODAAT.

I will not lie to you it is going to suck for you my friend are an addict like the 16000 strong here on this site. Do whatever you have to keep the poison out of your mouth like I have told others I don't care if you chew on a sac full of assholes just keep quit.

You will need to have a mindset change which is that no matter what the symptoms of withdrawal are nicotine is not more important than breathing. Embrace the suck remember how fucking awful you feel and know you wont have to do it again once you get through them.

PM me if you need digits...yes ask for numbers they will spread your network of accountability and will help keep you quit.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Minny on August 27, 2013, 12:38:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I started chewing about a year and a half ago when I was 16 years old. I have been wanting to quit for the last 6 months or so, but it has been so hard for me. I just recently have turned 18 and have been trying extremely hard not to just run to the gas station and pick up a new can for myself. The longest I have made it in my attempts is only 7 days before I crack and go back to a can a day.

Since I have turned 18 I have been experiencing really scary symtoms. I have done research on colon cancer and I am not really sure that I have it, but I am very freaked out about it and it is giving me even more of a drive to stop completely. During the last month or so I have had on and off diarrhea (I started drinking tea around this time and I have found that this could be the cause). During the last few days I have had a few normal BM's, but there has been a day that I had diarrhea that had a reddish tinge to it. This was after eating pizza, so I think it may just be the tomato sauce which caused it. Then today I have had a normal BM but it contained a lot of mucus which started to worry me again. I do have food allergies which maybe be the source. Either way I want to be tobacco free from now on and am doing whatever it takes to quit completely.

I have tried alternatives such as snus pouches, sunflower seeds, and jerky chew. None of which have helped me too much. I am wondering what I should do to help me along, without ordering the tobacco-free snuff online.
Trev,

It's great seeing such a young guy with such a good head on his shoulders. You've recognized your cancer causing addiction for what it is and have sought out some support.

A few things:

-Don't take anything too personal on KTC. Everyone means well but some of us have a hard time communicating without being a-holes.
-ANYTHING that contains nicotine (Snus, pouches, cigars, cigarettes, snuff, chew, patches, gum) will only HURT your quit. Once you commit to quitting, there's no going back. That's called "posting roll" and we will help you figure out how to do it.
-Get the word 'hope' out of your quit language. Hope only has to do with things we cannot control. Ex. I hope I win the lottery vs I hope I don't drink gasoline today... "I hope I don't chew today" can be easily replaced with "I will not chew today".
-Anything that does not contain nicotine but makes you feel better is okay, such as sunflower seeds, wrigley gum, pound cake, donuts, and so on. Disclaimer: I would stay away from illegal drugs.
-See a doctor about your stomach issues. In any case, nicotine is only going to hurt your system and you gotta quit NOW.

I'm glad you're here. I wish I would have been as smart as you at 18.

Check your Inbox (top right) for a Private Message.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on August 27, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I started chewing about a year and a half ago when I was 16 years old. I have been wanting to quit for the last 6 months or so, but it has been so hard for me. I just recently have turned 18 and have been trying extremely hard not to just run to the gas station and pick up a new can for myself. The longest I have made it in my attempts is only 7 days before I crack and go back to a can a day.

Since I have turned 18 I have been experiencing really scary symtoms. I have done research on colon cancer and I am not really sure that I have it, but I am very freaked out about it and it is giving me even more of a drive to stop completely. During the last month or so I have had on and off diarrhea (I started drinking tea around this time and I have found that this could be the cause). During the last few days I have had a few normal BM's, but there has been a day that I had diarrhea that had a reddish tinge to it. This was after eating pizza, so I think it may just be the tomato sauce which caused it. Then today I have had a normal BM but it contained a lot of mucus which started to worry me again. I do have food allergies which maybe be the source. Either way I want to be tobacco free from now on and am doing whatever it takes to quit completely.

I have tried alternatives such as snus pouches, sunflower seeds, and jerky chew. None of which have helped me too much. I am wondering what I should do to help me along, without ordering the tobacco-free snuff online.
Welcome to the site. Great decision to quit. FIrst, go to the pink "welcome center" button to the top left of the screen. Read everything in there. Read about quitting and posting roll, and why we do that.

Then dump every can of dip you have into the toilet and flush. Crush the cans with your feet and toss them.

This place can help you be quit, but you have to do it. We welcome use of anything that does not contain nicotine here. Seeds, gum, candy, coffee beans, fake dip, whatever. Just no nic patches, snus pouches, nic gum... Nothing with nicotine.

The reason is, you and I, and the rest of KTC are addicts. We are addicted to nicotine, so the first thing, and the goal is to get it out of our system and our lives.

So, quit right now, post roll in the December group, don't use for the rest of the day. You can do that. Then, do the same thing tomorrow. That is the KTC way, and it works.

As for the medical stuff, you are going to have to see a doctor
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Huzie1 on August 27, 2013, 01:37:00 PM
Congrats on making the move to join us here...We all have the same addiction as you do. If you don't get it stopped now, you will be no different than myself or any others on this site. What I mean is using for years and years and years. Myself I dipped for 27 years. Everyday until you quit will be thoughts of tobacco. It will run your life. Every aspect of your life will revolve around tobacco. There is no stopping it until you make the choice to stop!! You mention the things you have tried...well that can help curb the urges but it's not enough. You must make the commitment in your head to quit. You must be a part of this site and post roll everyday. The support is second to none. If you can't do it on your own then you need help and support. I am only on Day 9 but I am quit now and happy to be. We all know exactly what it feels like...We know it feels like shit everyday. We all have to relearn just about every aspect of life tobacco free. It is hard but can be done. Don't second guess yourself and say " I hope" You have to commit fully and wholeheartedly. It is the only way!!

Huzie1
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Evil_Won on August 27, 2013, 01:49:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I have tried alternatives such as snus pouches...
Those SNUS pouches or any other tobacco product is not an alternative. Those contain nicotine which is the highly addictive drug that kept us slaves. No nicotine allowed in these hallowed halls. No e-ciggs, no cigars, no pipes, no dip/snuff/chew/plugs, no patches, not nic gum.

Quitting cold turkey is allowed and so are any other tools to help you along that are tobacco and nicotine free.

Welcome to the site and get to a doctor (a real one, not Dr. Google) to get your ass checked out.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Mike from AB on August 27, 2013, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Huzie1
Congrats on making the move to join us here...We all have the same addiction as you do. If you don't get it stopped now, you will be no different than myself or any others on this site. What I mean is using for years and years and years. Myself I dipped for 27 years. Everyday until you quit will be thoughts of tobacco. It will run your life. Every aspect of your life will revolve around tobacco. There is no stopping it until you make the choice to stop!! You mention the things you have tried...well that can help curb the urges but it's not enough. You must make the commitment in your head to quit. You must be a part of this site and post roll everyday. The support is second to none. If you can't do it on your own then you need help and support. I am only on Day 9 but I am quit now and happy to be. We all know exactly what it feels like...We know it feels like shit everyday. We all have to relearn just about every aspect of life tobacco free. It is hard but can be done. Don't second guess yourself and say " I hope" You have to commit fully and wholeheartedly. It is the only way!!

Huzie1
+1. Lots of great advice already this morning. Welcome Trev! You've found a great Group of guys for help  support.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Greg5280 on August 27, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I just recently have turned 18
Wish I had been this smart at your age. I waited about 20 years longer.

Read everything you can here, quitting is possible!

Welcome to the site
Greg
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: KC_Guy on August 27, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
Drink the KTC Kool Aid. This place works. Welcome to freedom bro.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 27, 2013, 08:20:00 PM
Cracked within the first day :(
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: KC_Guy on August 27, 2013, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Cracked within the first day :(
You mean caved? Bro you gotta be shittin me. Quittin isn't easy. You gotta WANT it dude.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: worktowin on August 27, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Cracked within the first day  :(
You mean caved? Bro you gotta be shittin me. Quittin isn't easy. You gotta WANT it dude.
Hi trev,

Very disappointed to see your post. Unfortunately, and I'm not trying to be an ass here so please understand that I'm speaking from some experience, I'm not surprised. Because when I was 18 I thought I was pretty invincible. And bulletproof. And I really didn't understand integrity. Real men have integrity, and I have to be honest, it takes a real man (or woman) to beat this addiction.

I started around age 16. All the cool guys did it. Damn it felt good the first few times. That rush to the head - it was like a roller coaster. The first few times. Then... Nothing. Well, not exactly true. High blood pressure. Check. Low oxygen. Check. The fog. Check. Minus forty thousand dollars wasted. Check. Missed time with family and friends so I could get my fix. Check. I could go on all night.

Trev, this is no joke. Did you read your first post? You are 18 and worried about cancer! You should be busy doing unmentionable things that we all did at 18. Not worrying about cancer! But the choice, and this is a choice, is yours.

You can post roll and man up. Man up means that you have integrity. That you keep your word. Or you can spend the next 25 years, like I did, being scared every time my gums looked funny. And you can look forward to throwing a shitload of money away. Hopefully that is all that your continued dance with the cancer causing devil will cause you.

The time to man up is now. This can be done. But you have to chose to do it.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on August 27, 2013, 08:40:00 PM
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Cracked within the first day  :(
You mean caved? Bro you gotta be shittin me. Quittin isn't easy. You gotta WANT it dude.
You didn't toss it out did you? you had it sitting around just in case you were going to cave.... I am right aren't I?
You need to be all in, and cut all ties with the can, or it won't work. You need to post your promise, not to use nic, in the morning, and live up to that promise. You need to call or text one of your brothers on here if you are thinking about caving. If you don't have anyone's numbers, PM me and I will give you mine. Or get on this site and type out your misery, or get on the live chat and plenty of folks will be there to talk you off the edge.
The point is.... There are tools here. You didn't use them.

Others will tell you about the 3 questions, but given that you didn't really even get going, I am not sure it matters.

The real question is "DO YOU WANT THIS?" If the answer is yes, then get your ass active on this site, use your KTC library card and read eveything that is on here.

If you can get to a rink for 5:30 am hockey practice, you can damn sure stay quit one day.... If you want to.

Get quit with us, or come back when you are ready
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 27, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
I did toss it out, I got one from one of my buddies after class because everybody was sitting around with one in and I was just sitting there with them.

Its always the first two day's hump that really is the hardest for me. I want to quit just as bad as anybody else but day one and two are the worst. I feel like after the first week or so I will be able to control myself much better than I can now.

Also I need help on how to post roll, if somebody could help me with that that would be great
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Mike from AB on August 28, 2013, 12:00:00 AM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I did toss it out, I got one from one of my buddies after class because everybody was sitting around with one in and I was just sitting there with them.

Its always the first two day's hump that really is the hardest for me. I want to quit just as bad as anybody else but day one and two are the worst. I feel like after the first week or so I will be able to control myself much better than I can now.

Also I need help on how to post roll, if somebody could help me with that that would be great
Days 1 and 2 are about the worst. Pick a weekend even if you have to stay at home  do nothing with your friends. I picked a Monday/Tuesday that I had first aid training. If the fog hit, and when it did, I'd already taken the class 10 times so could pass the exam anyways for the ticket (I'm not an EMT  you don't want me to save your life anyways). But you can't even let your guard up after that as it stays hard. You can certainly try to help your chances of success through the first days, but even still no matter what, they're gonna suck. I can't think of any way around that. I even thought of the nic gum before I came on here, but like they say, all it's gonna do is prolong the withdrawls instead of getting them over.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 28, 2013, 12:49:00 AM
I'm thinking about maybe trying out getting 1 can of snus pouches just to get used to less nicotine for the first few days. Then go from there. I do still need help with roll when I do start officially.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Mike from AB on August 28, 2013, 01:03:00 AM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I'm thinking about maybe trying out getting 1 can of snus pouches just to get used to less nicotine for the first few days. Then go from there. I do still need help with roll when I do start officially.
I thought that might be a good idea too, just get used to less  even it out. Like cutting back, or maybe I'd try the gum. The first couple days are still gonna suck I think no matter what, hopefully that's the feeling that motivates me to stay quit  not have to go through it again.

But I think what happens is you end up getting less nic than you want anyway so it prolongs the number of days you're feeling withdrawls. I think it's like the bandaid. Do you try to peel it off little by little or do you just rip it off hair  all  be done with it? I might've even read that somewhere on here as a analogy.

Sent you a PM with the instructions I got (for mac/iphone) but no matter what you use, aside from the machine specific keys to cut/copy/paste I think the general idea is the same.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 28, 2013, 01:05:00 AM
Perfect, because I have a mac too
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on August 28, 2013, 01:39:00 AM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Perfect, because I have a mac too
You really want to quit do whatever you need to, but keep nicotine in any form out of you're system. 1 is to many and 1000 is never enough.

Your worth the withdraws. You're worth everything you have to go through to beat this addiction. Never again for any reason and you get life back. You go trying any other form of the poison your still a slave.
It gets easier one day at a time.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on August 28, 2013, 01:59:00 AM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I'm thinking about maybe trying out getting 1 can of snus pouches just to get used to less nicotine for the first few days. Then go from there. I do still need help with roll when I do start officially.
No SNUS, no nicotine. PERIOD.
We are nicotine addicts. We get nicotine out of our system. We keep it out. That is why we came here. We came from the can, but it is no better if it is a cigarette, a patch, SNUS, Nic GUm, e-cig, cigar..... it is all the same.

For you to succeed, you need to make some drastic changes in your thinking, and changes in your behavior. Friends dip- Stay away. Dip when drunk- don't drink. It takes a real dedication to truly stay quit.

Join us. Go into battle again, this time as a true warrior. Be quit. Take the steps to stay quit. Hit us up when you crave. PM me if you need another number.
As long as you don't have that SNUS shit, you can post day 1 today.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 28, 2013, 02:23:00 AM
Quote from: CaliforniaSlim
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I'm thinking about maybe trying out getting 1 can of snus pouches just to get used to less nicotine for the first few days. Then go from there. I do still need help with roll when I do start officially.
No SNUS, no nicotine. PERIOD.
We are nicotine addicts. We get nicotine out of our system. We keep it out. That is why we came here. We came from the can, but it is no better if it is a cigarette, a patch, SNUS, Nic GUm, e-cig, cigar..... it is all the same.

For you to succeed, you need to make some drastic changes in your thinking, and changes in your behavior. Friends dip- Stay away. Dip when drunk- don't drink. It takes a real dedication to truly stay quit.

Join us. Go into battle again, this time as a true warrior. Be quit. Take the steps to stay quit. Hit us up when you crave. PM me if you need another number.
As long as you don't have that SNUS shit, you can post day 1 today.
I'm just looking for a way to ease into the first few days from quitting. Going cold turkey is tough for me, I have tried it multiple times. I'm hoping that just 1 can of snus over a week or so will help me get used to less nicotine until for quitting completely.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on August 28, 2013, 02:29:00 AM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: CaliforniaSlim
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I'm thinking about maybe trying out getting 1 can of snus pouches just to get used to less nicotine for the first few days. Then go from there. I do still need help with roll when I do start officially.
No SNUS, no nicotine. PERIOD.
We are nicotine addicts. We get nicotine out of our system. We keep it out. That is why we came here. We came from the can, but it is no better if it is a cigarette, a patch, SNUS, Nic GUm, e-cig, cigar..... it is all the same.

For you to succeed, you need to make some drastic changes in your thinking, and changes in your behavior. Friends dip- Stay away. Dip when drunk- don't drink. It takes a real dedication to truly stay quit.

Join us. Go into battle again, this time as a true warrior. Be quit. Take the steps to stay quit. Hit us up when you crave. PM me if you need another number.
As long as you don't have that SNUS shit, you can post day 1 today.
I'm just looking for a way to ease into the first few days from quitting. Going cold turkey is tough for me, I have tried it multiple times. I'm hoping that just 1 can of snus over a week or so will help me get used to less nicotine until for quitting completely.
Wake up, we are telling you it won't. It is tough to quit at first but it gets easier. Read what we wrote. Dig deep you can do this.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Mike from AB on August 28, 2013, 03:03:00 AM
Trev, I admire you for coming on these boards, there are few at your age who would even think quitting might be an idea worth trying. At age 18 I was just getting started, I certainly wouldn't have even tried to hear the message you're at least still reading today. Now 20 years your senior, I'm thankful for a good dentist checkup  still I'd roll my best friend for a cigar right now.

What really makes this work is the day to day roll call promise you make that you won't use today. Tomorrow's a bright shiny new day  can take care of itself. You just have to worry about today because you promised an awesome group of guys that you could manage just that, guys who are counting on you  going through the same shit you are.

It does get easier day by day, but it's not easy no matter what you try. Should you try easing off for a week or so, I hope we see you back posting on the board where you can get all the help  support possible. Feel free to PM me for a cell # if you need too.

But beware. It's easy to put off  say I'm working it,  I don't doubt you are/will in your own way, but your 20s it can be hard to think about your own mortality then when your 30s come around they'll fly by. You could wind up middle aged before you know it.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on August 28, 2013, 09:12:00 AM
Quote from: Mike
Trev, I admire you for coming on these boards, there are few at your age who would even think quitting might be an idea worth trying. At age 18 I was just getting started, I certainly wouldn't have even tried to hear the message you're at least still reading today. Now 20 years your senior, I'm thankful for a good dentist checkup  still I'd roll my best friend for a cigar right now.

What really makes this work is the day to day roll call promise you make that you won't use today. Tomorrow's a bright shiny new day  can take care of itself. You just have to worry about today because you promised an awesome group of guys that you could manage just that, guys who are counting on you  going through the same shit you are.

It does get easier day by day, but it's not easy no matter what you try. Should you try easing off for a week or so, I hope we see you back posting on the board where you can get all the help  support possible. Feel free to PM me for a cell # if you need too.

But beware. It's easy to put off  say I'm working it,  I don't doubt you are/will in your own way, but your 20s it can be hard to think about your own mortality then when your 30s come around they'll fly by. You could wind up middle aged before you know it.
I admire mike from Alabama because a few days ago he quit and is nicotine free. You, not so much. I'll give props when you quit and stop using nicotine in any form. I'm a little harder to please. Come back when your ready to quit, we'll be here.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: miles on August 28, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Mike
Trev, I admire you for coming on these boards, there are few at your age who would even think quitting might be an idea worth trying.  At age 18 I was just getting started, I certainly wouldn't have even tried to hear the message you're at least still reading today.  Now 20 years your senior, I'm thankful for a good dentist checkup  still I'd roll my best friend for a cigar right now. 

What really makes this work is the day to day roll call promise you make that you won't use today.  Tomorrow's a bright shiny new day  can take care of itself.  You just have to worry about today because you promised an awesome group of guys that you could manage just that, guys who are counting on you  going through the same shit you are.

It does get easier day by day, but it's not easy no matter what you try.  Should you try easing off for a week or so, I hope we see you back posting on the board where you can get all the help  support possible.  Feel free to PM me for a cell # if you need too. 

But beware.  It's easy to put off  say I'm working it,  I don't doubt you are/will in your own way, but your 20s it can be hard to think about your own mortality then when your 30s come around they'll fly by.  You could wind up middle aged before you know it.
I admire mike from Alabama because a few days ago he quit and is nicotine free. You, not so much. I'll give props when you quit and stop using nicotine in any form. I'm a little harder to please. Come back when your ready to quit, we'll be here.
Quitting ain't EASY. There isn't an EASY way out!

This guys was looking for a magic pill or something...

It takes gumption and some accountability!

Come on back when your quit-balls drop!

Like Srans said, we'll be here!

I quit!
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on August 28, 2013, 03:29:00 PM
So is this guy quit or is he still sitting around all butt hurt in a pool of bloody shit. 18 dude really for you to quit now by 23 your odds for cancer are equal to that of a non tobacco user. Which means pretty close to zero. Brothers correct me if I am wrong on this. I have only had contact with one guy about your age that should make it on the train....
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 28, 2013, 05:21:00 PM
So everybody knows. Planning on starting the quit on saturday. I have received PM's to help me with posting roll. Cutting back to get used to the less nicotine. Cutting back is helping me because I am not constantly craving a new dip a half hour after I take one out. Starting saturday I plan on being 100% tobacco/nicotine free and will be posting roll once saturday comes.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on August 28, 2013, 05:38:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
So everybody knows. Planning on starting the quit on saturday. I have received PM's to help me with posting roll. Cutting back to get used to the less nicotine. Cutting back is helping me because I am not constantly craving a new dip a half hour after I take one out. Starting saturday I plan on being 100% tobacco/nicotine free and will be posting roll once saturday comes.
so slow pain over days versus just get it over with. Like has been stated here time and time again you don't switch to beer when you have been knocking back whiskey to quit.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Derk40 on August 28, 2013, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: Trev10hockey
So everybody knows. Planning on starting the quit on saturday. I have received PM's to help me with posting roll. Cutting back to get used to the less nicotine. Cutting back is helping me because I am not constantly craving a new dip a half hour after I take one out. Starting saturday I plan on being 100% tobacco/nicotine free and will be posting roll once saturday comes.
so slow pain over days versus just get it over with. Like has been stated here time and time again you don't switch to beer when you have been knocking back whiskey to quit.
Hey bro, just so you know... Those are hollow words until you man up and quit. We all said "I will quit Saturday" a thousand times and it is BS. Don't mean much to me. Hope you are a man of your word.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on August 28, 2013, 05:59:00 PM
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: Trev10hockey
So everybody knows. Planning on starting the quit on saturday. I have received PM's to help me with posting roll. Cutting back to get used to the less nicotine. Cutting back is helping me because I am not constantly craving a new dip a half hour after I take one out. Starting saturday I plan on being 100% tobacco/nicotine free and will be posting roll once saturday comes.
so slow pain over days versus just get it over with. Like has been stated here time and time again you don't switch to beer when you have been knocking back whiskey to quit.
Hey bro, just so you know... Those are hollow words until you man up and quit. We all said "I will quit Saturday" a thousand times and it is BS. Don't mean much to me. Hope you are a man of your word.
You cut back,, we are going to continue quitting today. Good luck.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 28, 2013, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
Hey bro, just so you know... Those are hollow words until you man up and quit.  We all said "I will quit Saturday" a thousand times and it is BS.  Don't mean much to me.  Hope you are a man of your word.

During the week I am surrounded by friends who dip, when I hit the weekend I will be able to overcome the hardest part for me without being surrounded by other kids with a dip in constantly
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Derk40 on August 28, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: traumagnet
Hey bro, just so you know... Those are hollow words until you man up and quit.  We all said "I will quit Saturday" a thousand times and it is BS.   Don't mean much to me.  Hope you are a man of your word.

During the week I am surrounded by friends who dip, when I hit the weekend I will be able to overcome the hardest part for me without being surrounded by other kids with a dip in constantly
Ok, Hope to see you Saturday!
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: worktowin on August 28, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: traumagnet
Hey bro, just so you know... Those are hollow words until you man up and quit.  We all said "I will quit Saturday" a thousand times and it is BS.   Don't mean much to me.  Hope you are a man of your word.

During the week I am surrounded by friends who dip, when I hit the weekend I will be able to overcome the hardest part for me without being surrounded by other kids with a dip in constantly
Ok, Hope to see you Saturday!
What happens on Monday when you are around your friends?
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 28, 2013, 07:05:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: traumagnet
Hey bro, just so you know... Those are hollow words until you man up and quit.  We all said "I will quit Saturday" a thousand times and it is BS.   Don't mean much to me.  Hope you are a man of your word.

During the week I am surrounded by friends who dip, when I hit the weekend I will be able to overcome the hardest part for me without being surrounded by other kids with a dip in constantly
Ok, Hope to see you Saturday!
What happens on Monday when you are around your friends?
Monday is Labor Day. Not going to be with them. After that I have the first three days under my belt, which are the hardest for me
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on August 28, 2013, 07:30:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: traumagnet
Hey bro, just so you know... Those are hollow words until you man up and quit.  We all said "I will quit Saturday" a thousand times and it is BS.   Don't mean much to me.  Hope you are a man of your word.

During the week I am surrounded by friends who dip, when I hit the weekend I will be able to overcome the hardest part for me without being surrounded by other kids with a dip in constantly
Ok, Hope to see you Saturday!
What happens on Monday when you are around your friends?
Ultimately, we all have more confidence in you than you do. We know you can do this, but, sadly, you don't. Gutless quit whimpers won't work. They will continually end in failure.

You need to ROAR. Say "I AM QUIT DAMN IT!!!" Out loud, with pride, say it. Even if it doesn't ring true at first, eventually, it will.

The scene ends one of two ways...

In the morning he comes back ... screaming... "I am quit, I am quit!!" and we all start the Rudy slow clap with tears of joy in our eyes, or,

He posts again on Saturday, but only makes it til lunch because it's oh so hard to watch sports without a dip.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: KC_Guy on August 28, 2013, 08:24:00 PM
So this guy has caved once and didnt make it a day. He's very young and most youngster's dont have the balls to quit. Now he's posting about quitting Saturday. Sounds like 3 strikes to me. Prove me wrong. SACK UP. Let's quit NOW.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on August 28, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
Friends hell every damn store has a resident nic bitch with her goods waving in the wind so unless your mom is going to lock you in the basement for 3 days temptation is everywhere I say what srans says u quit Saturday we will quit today. Like I said I only know of one anywhere near the hall as young as you. Read my HOF I trained myself how to tolerate dip. Horrible mistake
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: ERDVM on August 28, 2013, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
Friends hell every damn store has a resident nic bitch with her goods waving in the wind so unless your mom is going to lock you in the basement for 3 days temptation is everywhere I say what srans says u quit Saturday we will quit today. Like I said I only know of one anywhere near the hall as young as you. Read my HOF I trained myself how to tolerate dip. Horrible mistake
Hate seeing these younglings not get it. :sad
I once "weaned" back by alternating cans of Copenhagen with cans of skoal :dumbass
Trevy, I hope to see you Saturday. Good Luck :meh

;p
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 28, 2013, 10:10:00 PM
Hey Trev10, quitting is hard man. It is an addiction. You have programmed your mind and body to think that you NEED nicotine. YOU DONT. And you will not die without it, you only feel like you will. That hurts real real bad, but it only lasts a while. It wont be any easier to quit Sat than it is right now.

Dont fall for the trap man. Pretty soon you'll be telling yourself that you'll quit on NY day, or maybe when you start college, or maybe when you finish college. Shit before you know 10 years and 1000s of dollars have gone by. Be smarter than that.

Seize the moment Trev. The desire to quit can be fleeting, grasp it while you can and hold on tight. I will quit with you. Do it NOW, there is no tomorrow, only today.

Ryan
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 28, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Hey Trev10, quitting is hard man. It is an addiction. You have programmed your mind and body to think that you NEED nicotine. YOU DONT. And you will not die without it, you only feel like you will. That hurts real real bad, but it only lasts a while. It wont be any easier to quit Sat than it is right now.

Dont fall for the trap man. Pretty soon you'll be telling yourself that you'll quit on NY day, or maybe when you start college, or maybe when you finish college. Shit before you know 10 years and 1000s of dollars have gone by. Be smarter than that.

Seize the moment Trev. The desire to quit can be fleeting, grasp it while you can and hold on tight. I will quit with you. Do it NOW, there is no tomorrow, only today.

Ryan
Started college a while ago. I made it a week without a dip and it didn't bother me too much before I started school this summer. Then class started to stress me out and I began having problems with my family and girlfriend of two years all at the same time. I was stupid and jumped right back into it to ease the stress. I cut back quite a bit before I went that week. That's why I was easily able to make it. Now I was back up to a can or better a day, trying to cut back a little bit before I do officially quit will help me. I know all the guys on here are telling me I am wrong, but from last time I tried quitting, this is what helped me. Just like it helped to not be surrounded by other dippers all the time, which is my reason for waiting for this three-day weekend coming up to get over the worst hump.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Mike from AB on August 28, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Hey Trev10, quitting is hard man.  It is an addiction.  You have programmed your mind and body to think that you NEED nicotine.  YOU DONT.  And you will not die without it, you only feel like you will.  That hurts real real bad, but it only lasts a while.  It wont be any easier to quit Sat than it is right now. 

Dont fall for the trap man.  Pretty soon you'll be telling yourself that you'll quit on NY day, or maybe when you start college, or maybe when you finish college.  Shit before you know 10 years and 1000s of dollars have gone by.  Be smarter than that. 

Seize the moment Trev.  The desire to quit can be fleeting, grasp it while you can and hold on tight.  I will quit with you.  Do it NOW, there is no tomorrow, only today.

Ryan
Started college a while ago. I made it a week without a dip and it didn't bother me too much before I started school this summer. Then class started to stress me out and I began having problems with my family and girlfriend of two years all at the same time. I was stupid and jumped right back into it to ease the stress. I cut back quite a bit before I went that week. That's why I was easily able to make it. Now I was back up to a can or better a day, trying to cut back a little bit before I do officially quit will help me. I know all the guys on here are telling me I am wrong, but from last time I tried quitting, this is what helped me. Just like it helped to not be surrounded by other dippers all the time, which is my reason for waiting for this three-day weekend coming up to get over the worst hump.
Yes Srans is harder to please than I am, he makes sure to be hard on my thread too  we need that. Somebody with that strength of character is winning moreso when he helps to share it.

So lets see you back in here Saturday, after winding down your dose a bit,  picking a quiet weekend as a good place to start. Nothing wrong with planning it out to make the transition. But don't let it be an excuse to let t slide as I've said already  others have already. If you're truly ready now you've got huge piles of support on these boards from the ballsiest guys I've ever met. Don't lose the moment  a decade will be gone before you know it.

ERDVM's story is too true. Funny, sad, but true all at the same time. Alternating Cope vs. Skoal, dipping uppers, moving your placement around, taking a break by smoking, there's no end to the justification. KC said it somewhere that if quitting were easy everybody would do it. It's not.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: jake frawley on August 28, 2013, 11:28:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Hey Trev10, quitting is hard man.  It is an addiction.  You have programmed your mind and body to think that you NEED nicotine.  YOU DONT.  And you will not die without it, you only feel like you will.  That hurts real real bad, but it only lasts a while.  It wont be any easier to quit Sat than it is right now. 

Dont fall for the trap man.  Pretty soon you'll be telling yourself that you'll quit on NY day, or maybe when you start college, or maybe when you finish college.  Shit before you know 10 years and 1000s of dollars have gone by.  Be smarter than that. 

Seize the moment Trev.  The desire to quit can be fleeting, grasp it while you can and hold on tight.  I will quit with you.  Do it NOW, there is no tomorrow, only today.

Ryan
Started college a while ago. I made it a week without a dip and it didn't bother me too much before I started school this summer. Then class started to stress me out and I began having problems with my family and girlfriend of two years all at the same time. I was stupid and jumped right back into it to ease the stress. I cut back quite a bit before I went that week. That's why I was easily able to make it. Now I was back up to a can or better a day, trying to cut back a little bit before I do officially quit will help me. I know all the guys on here are telling me I am wrong, but from last time I tried quitting, this is what helped me. Just like it helped to not be surrounded by other dippers all the time, which is my reason for waiting for this three-day weekend coming up to get over the worst hump.
LAWS OF ADDICTION

whyquit.com/FFN/chapters/FFN_02_Law.pdf

Read the above link! ( you will have to copy it into a URL ) It explains why you are the way you are and why just one more never works. Also explains why tapering down is worthless! You are at the right place! Ever stop to think that maybe all the guys here say the same thing because it is right? You can do this. It is as simple as throwing out the chew!
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 29, 2013, 06:17:00 AM
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Hey Trev10, quitting is hard man.  It is an addiction.  You have programmed your mind and body to think that you NEED nicotine.  YOU DONT.  And you will not die without it, you only feel like you will.  That hurts real real bad, but it only lasts a while.  It wont be any easier to quit Sat than it is right now. 

Dont fall for the trap man.  Pretty soon you'll be telling yourself that you'll quit on NY day, or maybe when you start college, or maybe when you finish college.  Shit before you know 10 years and 1000s of dollars have gone by.  Be smarter than that. 

Seize the moment Trev.  The desire to quit can be fleeting, grasp it while you can and hold on tight.  I will quit with you.  Do it NOW, there is no tomorrow, only today.

Ryan
Started college a while ago. I made it a week without a dip and it didn't bother me too much before I started school this summer. Then class started to stress me out and I began having problems with my family and girlfriend of two years all at the same time. I was stupid and jumped right back into it to ease the stress. I cut back quite a bit before I went that week. That's why I was easily able to make it. Now I was back up to a can or better a day, trying to cut back a little bit before I do officially quit will help me. I know all the guys on here are telling me I am wrong, but from last time I tried quitting, this is what helped me. Just like it helped to not be surrounded by other dippers all the time, which is my reason for waiting for this three-day weekend coming up to get over the worst hump.
LAWS OF ADDICTION

whyquit.com/FFN/chapters/FFN_02_Law.pdf

Read the above link! ( you will have to copy it into a URL ) It explains why you are the way you are and why just one more never works. Also explains why tapering down is worthless! You are at the right place! Ever stop to think that maybe all the guys here say the same thing because it is right? You can do this. It is as simple as throwing out the chew!
OK then, I will see you on this magical saturday, when the stars are perfectly aligned, then angels are singing and fairy dust is in the air. Yes it is sure to be the greatest day to quit that there ever was. Funny how "tomorrow" seems to work that way.

If you want to quit, you will. There is no TRY, only do. You have all the support in the world if you are really gonna do this. I suggest that you learn all you can about what it means to have an addiction. There is only one way out, no nicotine today, one day at a time.

See you Saturday. Unless of course your addict mind rationalizes that some other magical date in the future might be even better than saturday.

Ryan
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Scowick65 on August 29, 2013, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Hey Trev10, quitting is hard man.  It is an addiction.  You have programmed your mind and body to think that you NEED nicotine.  YOU DONT.  And you will not die without it, you only feel like you will.  That hurts real real bad, but it only lasts a while.  It wont be any easier to quit Sat than it is right now. 

Dont fall for the trap man.  Pretty soon you'll be telling yourself that you'll quit on NY day, or maybe when you start college, or maybe when you finish college.  Shit before you know 10 years and 1000s of dollars have gone by.  Be smarter than that. 

Seize the moment Trev.  The desire to quit can be fleeting, grasp it while you can and hold on tight.  I will quit with you.  Do it NOW, there is no tomorrow, only today.

Ryan
Started college a while ago. I made it a week without a dip and it didn't bother me too much before I started school this summer. Then class started to stress me out and I began having problems with my family and girlfriend of two years all at the same time. I was stupid and jumped right back into it to ease the stress. I cut back quite a bit before I went that week. That's why I was easily able to make it. Now I was back up to a can or better a day, trying to cut back a little bit before I do officially quit will help me. I know all the guys on here are telling me I am wrong, but from last time I tried quitting, this is what helped me. Just like it helped to not be surrounded by other dippers all the time, which is my reason for waiting for this three-day weekend coming up to get over the worst hump.
LAWS OF ADDICTION

whyquit.com/FFN/chapters/FFN_02_Law.pdf

Read the above link! ( you will have to copy it into a URL ) It explains why you are the way you are and why just one more never works. Also explains why tapering down is worthless! You are at the right place! Ever stop to think that maybe all the guys here say the same thing because it is right? You can do this. It is as simple as throwing out the chew!
OK then, I will see you on this magical saturday, when the stars are perfectly aligned, then angels are singing and fairy dust is in the air. Yes it is sure to be the greatest day to quit that there ever was. Funny how "tomorrow" seems to work that way.

If you want to quit, you will. There is no TRY, only do. You have all the support in the world if you are really gonna do this. I suggest that you learn all you can about what it means to have an addiction. There is only one way out, no nicotine today, one day at a time.

See you Saturday. Unless of course your addict mind rationalizes that some other magical date in the future might be even better than saturday.

Ryan
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Greg5280 on August 29, 2013, 09:12:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Hey Trev10, quitting is hard man.  It is an addiction.  You have programmed your mind and body to think that you NEED nicotine.  YOU DONT.  And you will not die without it, you only feel like you will.  That hurts real real bad, but it only lasts a while.  It wont be any easier to quit Sat than it is right now. 

Dont fall for the trap man.  Pretty soon you'll be telling yourself that you'll quit on NY day, or maybe when you start college, or maybe when you finish college.  Shit before you know 10 years and 1000s of dollars have gone by.  Be smarter than that. 

Seize the moment Trev.  The desire to quit can be fleeting, grasp it while you can and hold on tight.  I will quit with you.  Do it NOW, there is no tomorrow, only today.

Ryan
Started college a while ago. I made it a week without a dip and it didn't bother me too much before I started school this summer. Then class started to stress me out and I began having problems with my family and girlfriend of two years all at the same time. I was stupid and jumped right back into it to ease the stress. I cut back quite a bit before I went that week. That's why I was easily able to make it. Now I was back up to a can or better a day, trying to cut back a little bit before I do officially quit will help me. I know all the guys on here are telling me I am wrong, but from last time I tried quitting, this is what helped me. Just like it helped to not be surrounded by other dippers all the time, which is my reason for waiting for this three-day weekend coming up to get over the worst hump.
LAWS OF ADDICTION

whyquit.com/FFN/chapters/FFN_02_Law.pdf

Read the above link! ( you will have to copy it into a URL ) It explains why you are the way you are and why just one more never works. Also explains why tapering down is worthless! You are at the right place! Ever stop to think that maybe all the guys here say the same thing because it is right? You can do this. It is as simple as throwing out the chew!
OK then, I will see you on this magical saturday, when the stars are perfectly aligned, then angels are singing and fairy dust is in the air. Yes it is sure to be the greatest day to quit that there ever was. Funny how "tomorrow" seems to work that way.

If you want to quit, you will. There is no TRY, only do. You have all the support in the world if you are really gonna do this. I suggest that you learn all you can about what it means to have an addiction. There is only one way out, no nicotine today, one day at a time.

See you Saturday. Unless of course your addict mind rationalizes that some other magical date in the future might be even better than saturday.

Ryan
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
Damn, I had high expectations for this I one! I guess we are on the tomorrow train in here?

Listen to these fine quitters, they will save your life if you just let them!

'bang head'
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 29, 2013, 10:37:00 PM
I'll be back here in a day.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Scowick65 on August 29, 2013, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I'll be back here in a day.
Man, if I could just transfer everything I have learned in 993 days. 'bang head' Man o man. You need her, the nic bitch. Funny thing, is ya really don't. 1 problem + nic bitch = 2 problems.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 30, 2013, 07:50:00 AM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I'll be back here in a day.
Man, if I could just transfer everything I have learned in 993 days. 'bang head' Man o man. You need her, the nic bitch. Funny thing, is ya really don't. 1 problem + nic bitch = 2 problems.
Hey Trev. I hope for your sake you will be here tomorrow. Words really mean nothing though, let's see the actions.

Kind of like scowick suggests, I also wish I could quit for you. But only YOU can do the work. Everyday YOU make the decision. YOU can choose to cram your lip full of nasty carcinogens or YOU can choose to take your life back.

See you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on August 30, 2013, 09:19:00 AM
Truth,,, this is why i'm 'bang head' with you.

A few days before I found ktc I decided I was going to TRY to quit. My new plan was to cut back to only two dips a day. What an idiot I was.

For three days I tortured myself. I would allow myself one dip in the morning and the next half way through the day. It was torture. It was not working. I remember having tears in my eyes when I was finally allowing those pinches. I was HOPING for a miracle. Later I found there is no hope or try in quit. That was my problem. I had to remove hope. There is only QUIT!!!

Do you know as soon as you put nicotine in any form you immediately FILL THE VOID that you've left from using smaller amounts. It doesn't matter how much you cut back,,, as soon as you use,,, it fills the void. You have done absolutely NO good. In other words,, you start the cycle over again as soon as you use. WAKE UP,, THINK ABOUT IT.

If you don't hear anything I've said,,, Which I doubt you have. I ask you to hear this.

The poison doesn't deserve your respect and admiration. That's what you are giving it. Right now you love the poison more than yourself, life and family. How about making a statement to the poison. Quit right effin now. How about slamming the door and adding bolt locks. If you do quit tomorrow,, I don't know if i'm going to even believe in your quit. You've said nothing to me that lets me know you reeeellllly want to quit. I don't think you have it in you to quit. Your still suckling with the poison right now, so that tells me all I need to know. MAKE THAT STATEMENT BROTHER!!!! Slam that door shut,, don't ease it shut,, SLAM IT!!!

I've given you to much of my time already. I don't know why!! Usually someone that is suckling with the poison does not get this much of my attention. Your getting attention from got2, me and others that you really don't deserve. Maybe it's because we see us in you. Maybe it's because we know you are using your brain to make decisions and we know your brain cannot be trusted. Maybe we are trying to get through to YOU!!!! The problem right now is YOUR not in charge,, the poison is. Reach deep my friend,, YOUR in there somewhere. Maybe Saturday the real YOU will suddenly emerge. Right now I think YOU might emerge, but YOU won't last. You've not proven anything to me and more importantly,,, YOURSELF!

Maybe, if your not listening, I haven't wasted my time and someone else right now sees this and wants to take there life back. Do it,, you won't be sorry. The poison wants to take everything from you,, it doesn't stop until your dead.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on August 30, 2013, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Truth,,, this is why i'm 'bang head' with you.

A few days before I found ktc I decided I was going to TRY to quit. My new plan was to cut back to only two dips a day. What an idiot I was.

For three days I tortured myself. I would allow myself one dip in the morning and the next half way through the day. It was torture. It was not working. I remember having tears in my eyes when I was finally allowing those pinches. I was HOPING for a miracle. Later I found there is no hope or try in quit. That was my problem. I had to remove hope. There is only QUIT!!!

Do you know as soon as you put nicotine in any form you immediately FILL THE VOID that you've left from using smaller amounts. It doesn't matter how much you cut back,,, as soon as you use,,, it fills the void. You have done absolutely NO good. In other words,, you start the cycle over again as start as you use. WAKE UP,, THINK ABOUT IT.

If you don't hear anything I've said,,, Which I doubt you have. I ask you to hear this.

The poison doesn't deserve your respect and admiration. That's what you are giving it. Right now you love the poison more than yourself, life and family. How about making a statement to the poison. Quit right effin now. How about slamming the door and adding bolt locks. If you do quit tomorrow,, I don't know if i'm going to even believe in your quit. You've said nothing to me that lets me know you reeeellllly want to quit. I don't think you have it in you to quit. Your still suckling with the poison right now, so that tells me all I need to know. MAKE THAT STATEMENT BROTHER!!!! Slam that door shut,, don't ease it shut,, SLAM IT!!!

I've given you to much of my time already. I don't know why!! Usually someone that is suckling with the poison does not get this much of my attention. Your getting attention from got2, me and others that you really don't deserve. Maybe it's because we see us in you. Maybe it's because we know you are using your brain to make decisions and we know your brain cannot be trusted. Maybe we are trying to get through to YOU!!!! The problem right now is YOUR not in charge,, the poison is. Reach deep my friend,, YOUR in there somewhere. Maybe Saturday the real YOU will suddenly emerge. Right now I think YOU might emerge, but YOU won't last. You've not proven anything to me and more importantly,,, YOURSELF!

Maybe, if your not listening, I haven't wasted my time and someone else right now sees this and wants to take there life back. Do it,, you won't be sorry. The poison wants to take everything from you,, it doesn't stop until your dead.
Shit dude if you cant do this you never will ever be able to you have 4 pages of bad asses reaching out to you sharing stories with you helping everyway they can and you still are stuck on this Saturday bullshit. How bout you sac up right now throw your can in the shitter do your school or whatever it is you do graduate from hurt vagina camp and get your quit started today....I mean like WTF already your thread is sucking up valuable quitter juice and you aren't even quit. At this point I will either see you on the other side or I wont.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 30, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
I'll see you all in a few hours when I wake up
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on August 31, 2013, 08:33:00 AM
its fucken Saturday lets see this blossoming quit.... I am here early for the grand opening....I heard they were serving cheese with the whine. Yep whine
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Mike from AB on August 31, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
its fucken Saturday lets see this blossoming quit.... I am here early for the grand opening....I heard they were serving cheese with the whine. Yep whine
'Popcorn'

Wondered who'd be the first to bump Trev's thread up this morning!
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on August 31, 2013, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
its fucken Saturday lets see this blossoming quit.... I am here early for the grand opening....I heard they were serving cheese with the whine. Yep whine
'wave' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'welcome' 'dance' 'dance' 'dance'

I say we get this quit started first thing. I wouldn't even get that morning fix. What do you say trev!! I've been looking forward to this day all week.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 31, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
I'll see you all in a few hours when I wake up
Reach out if need help Trev, read all you can on the site. The wisdom to quit lies within. You bring the balls.

There are many tools here, I needed them all, and often still do. I will send you a PM with some info once I see that you have posted roll. Posting roll is your promise not to use today. It is the backbone of this site. It offers the accountability that people need. I believe that an addict without accountability is a user. I tried to beat this bitch with only willpower so many times before. I could not do it. I did not have a plan. I did not have the right tools. I did not have support. When I found this site, I found all of those things. Now I am at 243 days clean. You can do the same. There are many people here that are willing to help you. But none of them can quit for you. The ball is in your court. Whats it gonna be??
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: KC_Guy on August 31, 2013, 09:21:00 AM
I'm watching myself to see if this kid is a man of his word. All week long we heard Saturday. Well sunshine, it's Saturday. Where are you? Quittin isn't easy or everybody would be doing it.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on August 31, 2013, 12:10:00 PM
Here for day one, I still am not totally sure how to post roll
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: RAZD611 on August 31, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Here for day one, I still am not totally sure how to post roll
Read this index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50).

Congrats on your decision. Put on your hard hat and try not to lick the windows. They were just cleaned yesterday for the weekend.

You can do this.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on August 31, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Here for day one, I still am not totally sure how to post roll
Bro,, welcome. You can find all the directions in the welcome center top left. Read up on how and why. Pay particular attention to why. When you post roll you are giving your word to us yourself and the whole world your not going to use for the day. Your group is the December hof group. If you mess it up it will get fixed, you'll get the hang of it.

Again, welcome. If you need anything give me a pm. Click on anyone's name and you'll see send a message in the box. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Mike from AB on August 31, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Here for day one, I still am not totally sure how to post roll
Welcome back  all the best to you for sticking to your plan to come back for Saturday day #1
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on August 31, 2013, 05:34:00 PM
Nice keep quit need help pm me
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Derk40 on August 31, 2013, 09:57:00 PM
Great decision bro! U said you would be back and here you are posting day 1. You can do this. Focus on this quit ODAAT! Quit with you today!
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on September 01, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
Days one and two have been pretty good so far. No really bad cravings or anything yet.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: KC_Guy on September 01, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Days one and two have been pretty good so far. No really bad cravings or anything yet.
Happy to see you onboard with quitting. Somedays are better than others. Keep posting roll and honoring your word.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Mike from AB on September 01, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Days one and two have been pretty good so far. No really bad cravings or anything yet.
Happy to see you onboard with quitting. Somedays are better than others. Keep posting roll and honoring your word.
Congrats on getting through the first 2 days! Awesome work!
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on September 01, 2013, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: Mike
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Days one and two have been pretty good so far. No really bad cravings or anything yet.
Happy to see you onboard with quitting. Somedays are better than others. Keep posting roll and honoring your word.
Congrats on getting through the first 2 days! Awesome work!
Glad to hear it. Stay alert, it will likely get worse before it gets better. You have made the right decision, stick with it.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Minny on September 03, 2013, 07:48:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mike
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Days one and two have been pretty good so far. No really bad cravings or anything yet.
Happy to see you onboard with quitting. Somedays are better than others. Keep posting roll and honoring your word.
Congrats on getting through the first 2 days! Awesome work!
Glad to hear it. Stay alert, it will likely get worse before it gets better. You have made the right decision, stick with it.
How's it going, Trev?
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on September 03, 2013, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mike
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Days one and two have been pretty good so far. No really bad cravings or anything yet.
Happy to see you onboard with quitting. Somedays are better than others. Keep posting roll and honoring your word.
Congrats on getting through the first 2 days! Awesome work!
Glad to hear it. Stay alert, it will likely get worse before it gets better. You have made the right decision, stick with it.
How's it going, Trev?
didn't see a roll post from you yet.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on September 03, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: KC_Guy on September 03, 2013, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
I hate to break it to you dude. Posting roll is the price of admission around here. Either do it and be a man or GET GONE. The program here works. We don't have special butterflies here. Let's get with the program. Post roll.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Derk40 on September 04, 2013, 08:36:00 AM
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
I hate to break it to you dude. Posting roll is the price of admission around here. Either do it and be a man or GET GONE. The program here works. We don't have special butterflies here. Let's get with the program. Post roll.
Dude, you are young and have a great opportunity here. Was seeing your buddies this week too much for you? I realize you thought you could quit starting on Saturday  ending Monday because that would be the "hardest part"... unfortunately it doesn't work that way. For you  the rest of us, the hardest part is today... because we need to stay quit today. This is not something you just snap your fingers for and it is all good. You need to put in the work. I'd recommend posting roll  keep your quit going. But it is your call though... you seem to think you have this all figured out. Sounds like me at your age.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on September 04, 2013, 08:51:00 AM
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
I hate to break it to you dude. Posting roll is the price of admission around here. Either do it and be a man or GET GONE. The program here works. We don't have special butterflies here. Let's get with the program. Post roll.
Dude, you are young and have a great opportunity here. Was seeing your buddies this week too much for you? I realize you thought you could quit starting on Saturday  ending Monday because that would be the "hardest part"... unfortunately it doesn't work that way. For you  the rest of us, the hardest part is today... because we need to stay quit today. This is not something you just snap your fingers for and it is all good. You need to put in the work. I'd recommend posting roll  keep your quit going. But it is your call though... you seem to think you have this all figured out. Sounds like me at your age.
You know what annoys me brother. People that don't think posting roll is important. You know why it's not important to you trev? Because quitting is not the most important thing in your life. If you don't make quitting the most important thing in your life then you will fail.

Nicotine is no joke my friend. The poison shows no mercy. Do you think we're idiots here? You not wanting to post roll means your addict mind is still giving the orders. Your still being controlled by the poison. Don't think for one second you own this quit. Right now your being owned.

You have to give this process a chance trev. I didn't like posting roll at the beginning either, but after a while I got use to it and now it's just something I have to do everyday.

Come on man,,, Wake up!!!! Post roll and stay quit,, it's that simple. Own it or be owned (cbird).....
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Minny on September 04, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: miles on September 04, 2013, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
KTC wasn't beating down your door, begging you to quit. No, you recognized that you need help and googled something along the lines of 'quit dip'. Posting roll is the single most important thing you can do for yourself on a daily basis. Don't discount the power of that promise that you make DAILY to your brothers and sisters. You better invest more into your quit or you will fail.

I have failed many times but 912 days ago I quit..for real quit. KTC has literally helped me save my life. The friendships I have made here will be lifelong. To pass on an opportunity to up your accountability is foolish my friend. Boggles my mind.

All of these people showed up on your intro thread because they (we) genuinely care about your well being. Imagine if they weren't 'too active on here' or found posting roll was 'annoying'. This place would be a ghost town.

Think it through. We all want you to succeed.

Miles - +1 with you
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: traumagnet on September 04, 2013, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: Miles
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
KTC wasn't beating down your door, begging you to quit. No, you recognized that you need help and googled something along the lines of 'quit dip'. Posting roll is the single most important thing you can do for yourself on a daily basis. Don't discount the power of that promise that you make DAILY to your brothers and sisters. You better invest more into your quit or you will fail.

I have failed many times but 912 days ago I quit..for real quit. KTC has literally helped me save my life. The friendships I have made here will be lifelong. To pass on an opportunity to up your accountability is foolish my friend. Boggles my mind.

All of these people showed up on your intro thread because they (we) genuinely care about your well being. Imagine if they weren't 'too active on here' or found posting roll was 'annoying'. This place would be a ghost town.

Think it through. We all want you to succeed.

Miles - +1 with you
Yep what all these quitters have said. Oh 18 I know everything about everything I got time I am only 18...blah blah the support has poured into your thread because everyone on your thread realizes that the 18 year old ship has sailed long ago. They are trying to reach you like Anne Sulivan did for Helen but like Helen you are blind and deaf. Good luck on your quit yes I said luck because that is the only thing you have...oh and hope that some magical quit fairy is gonna sprinkle some quit dust on your ass and your gonna be cured.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Pinched on September 04, 2013, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: Miles
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
KTC wasn't beating down your door, begging you to quit. No, you recognized that you need help and googled something along the lines of 'quit dip'. Posting roll is the single most important thing you can do for yourself on a daily basis. Don't discount the power of that promise that you make DAILY to your brothers and sisters. You better invest more into your quit or you will fail.

I have failed many times but 912 days ago I quit..for real quit. KTC has literally helped me save my life. The friendships I have made here will be lifelong. To pass on an opportunity to up your accountability is foolish my friend. Boggles my mind.

All of these people showed up on your intro thread because they (we) genuinely care about your well being. Imagine if they weren't 'too active on here' or found posting roll was 'annoying'. This place would be a ghost town.

Think it through. We all want you to succeed.

Miles - +1 with you
Yep what all these quitters have said. Oh 18 I know everything about everything I got time I am only 18...blah blah the support has poured into your thread because everyone on your thread realizes that the 18 year old ship has sailed long ago. They are trying to reach you like Anne Sulivan did for Helen but like Helen you are blind and deaf. Good luck on your quit yes I said luck because that is the only thing you have...oh and hope that some magical quit fairy is gonna sprinkle some quit dust on your ass and your gonna be cured.
None of us are here to be your friends so don't mistake the outpouring of support for a friend outreach program.

If you choose to go solo and do your own thing then best of luck, but the statistics show that without a sense of accountability you will succumb to that little part of your brain that pulls the Nic Bitch back.

If you decide to go solo, then please log back on at day 100, one year, and then each 100th day after that, come to my into spot and indicate that you are proving me wrong, because I don't think you will be successful on your own.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Trev10hockey on September 04, 2013, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: Miles
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
KTC wasn't beating down your door, begging you to quit. No, you recognized that you need help and googled something along the lines of 'quit dip'. Posting roll is the single most important thing you can do for yourself on a daily basis. Don't discount the power of that promise that you make DAILY to your brothers and sisters. You better invest more into your quit or you will fail.

I have failed many times but 912 days ago I quit..for real quit. KTC has literally helped me save my life. The friendships I have made here will be lifelong. To pass on an opportunity to up your accountability is foolish my friend. Boggles my mind.

All of these people showed up on your intro thread because they (we) genuinely care about your well being. Imagine if they weren't 'too active on here' or found posting roll was 'annoying'. This place would be a ghost town.

Think it through. We all want you to succeed.

Miles - +1 with you
I googled alternatives to chew and found this site, didn't know about roll when I found it.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: KC_Guy on September 04, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Miles
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
KTC wasn't beating down your door, begging you to quit. No, you recognized that you need help and googled something along the lines of 'quit dip'. Posting roll is the single most important thing you can do for yourself on a daily basis. Don't discount the power of that promise that you make DAILY to your brothers and sisters. You better invest more into your quit or you will fail.

I have failed many times but 912 days ago I quit..for real quit. KTC has literally helped me save my life. The friendships I have made here will be lifelong. To pass on an opportunity to up your accountability is foolish my friend. Boggles my mind.

All of these people showed up on your intro thread because they (we) genuinely care about your well being. Imagine if they weren't 'too active on here' or found posting roll was 'annoying'. This place would be a ghost town.

Think it through. We all want you to succeed.

Miles - +1 with you
I googled alternatives to chew and found this site, didn't know about roll when I found it.
Look bro you have alot of badass quitters in here that drank the ktc kool aid. We all posted roll, quit one day at a time and are straight up killin our quits. So......... why not join us and post roll. You do WANT to quit right? Use a method with proven success. The KTC method.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: JRizzle on September 04, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Miles
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
KTC wasn't beating down your door, begging you to quit. No, you recognized that you need help and googled something along the lines of 'quit dip'. Posting roll is the single most important thing you can do for yourself on a daily basis. Don't discount the power of that promise that you make DAILY to your brothers and sisters. You better invest more into your quit or you will fail.

I have failed many times but 912 days ago I quit..for real quit. KTC has literally helped me save my life. The friendships I have made here will be lifelong. To pass on an opportunity to up your accountability is foolish my friend. Boggles my mind.

All of these people showed up on your intro thread because they (we) genuinely care about your well being. Imagine if they weren't 'too active on here' or found posting roll was 'annoying'. This place would be a ghost town.

Think it through. We all want you to succeed.

Miles - +1 with you
I googled alternatives to chew and found this site, didn't know about roll when I found it.
Trev, I think you need to embrace it. Not everyone needs to quit this way, but if you're saying that posting roll is too much of a hassle then I do maybe question your resolve. I've gotta say that it's the best part of my day each and every day. I've been quit for 89 days and started posting roll on day 3. When I first started, if I were 2 hours late posting roll then I would have guys texting and calling me. For me the accountability and the opportunity to be apart of something bigger than myself, to be apart of a group that had stories similar to mine yet still distinct, guys that came from different walks of life but had all struggled with the same thing, that was what was most important. That might not be you, but rather than complain about posting roll I encourage you to swallow the drink to the bottom. It might scald at first, but by the bottom of the cup I think you'll be very satisfied.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: Evil_Won on September 05, 2013, 01:19:00 AM
Quote from: JRizzle
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Miles
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
KTC wasn't beating down your door, begging you to quit. No, you recognized that you need help and googled something along the lines of 'quit dip'. Posting roll is the single most important thing you can do for yourself on a daily basis. Don't discount the power of that promise that you make DAILY to your brothers and sisters. You better invest more into your quit or you will fail.

I have failed many times but 912 days ago I quit..for real quit. KTC has literally helped me save my life. The friendships I have made here will be lifelong. To pass on an opportunity to up your accountability is foolish my friend. Boggles my mind.

All of these people showed up on your intro thread because they (we) genuinely care about your well being. Imagine if they weren't 'too active on here' or found posting roll was 'annoying'. This place would be a ghost town.

Think it through. We all want you to succeed.

Miles - +1 with you
I googled alternatives to chew and found this site, didn't know about roll when I found it.
Trev, I think you need to embrace it. Not everyone needs to quit this way, but if you're saying that posting roll is too much of a hassle then I do maybe question your resolve. I've gotta say that it's the best part of my day each and every day. I've been quit for 89 days and started posting roll on day 3. When I first started, if I were 2 hours late posting roll then I would have guys texting and calling me. For me the accountability and the opportunity to be apart of something bigger than myself, to be apart of a group that had stories similar to mine yet still distinct, guys that came from different walks of life but had all struggled with the same thing, that was what was most important. That might not be you, but rather than complain about posting roll I encourage you to swallow the drink to the bottom. It might scald at first, but by the bottom of the cup I think you'll be very satisfied.
You can't take 15 seconds out of your day to post a promise? It's only 15 seconds but is HUGE. Don't underestimate the power of Posting Roll and the Accountability that it brings.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: srans on September 05, 2013, 07:59:00 AM
Trev,, truth time. You didn't make it past the first day did you?? I hope I'm wrong, but your whole thread spells out cave.

I hope you smarten up before it's to late. Now if you'll if you'll excuse me I've wasted enough time here. It's time to get back to real quitters. Let me know when your tired of being a slave to a filthy disgusting can of poison.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: DiplessinJax on September 05, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: JRizzle
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Quote from: Miles
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Trev10hockey
Doing fine, I like the support from here but just posting roll annoys me. I'll be fine quitting without posting roll or being too active on here
Good luck to ya. It never worked for me.
KTC wasn't beating down your door, begging you to quit. No, you recognized that you need help and googled something along the lines of 'quit dip'. Posting roll is the single most important thing you can do for yourself on a daily basis. Don't discount the power of that promise that you make DAILY to your brothers and sisters. You better invest more into your quit or you will fail.

I have failed many times but 912 days ago I quit..for real quit. KTC has literally helped me save my life. The friendships I have made here will be lifelong. To pass on an opportunity to up your accountability is foolish my friend. Boggles my mind.

All of these people showed up on your intro thread because they (we) genuinely care about your well being. Imagine if they weren't 'too active on here' or found posting roll was 'annoying'. This place would be a ghost town.

Think it through. We all want you to succeed.

Miles - +1 with you
I googled alternatives to chew and found this site, didn't know about roll when I found it.
Trev, I think you need to embrace it. Not everyone needs to quit this way, but if you're saying that posting roll is too much of a hassle then I do maybe question your resolve. I've gotta say that it's the best part of my day each and every day. I've been quit for 89 days and started posting roll on day 3. When I first started, if I were 2 hours late posting roll then I would have guys texting and calling me. For me the accountability and the opportunity to be apart of something bigger than myself, to be apart of a group that had stories similar to mine yet still distinct, guys that came from different walks of life but had all struggled with the same thing, that was what was most important. That might not be you, but rather than complain about posting roll I encourage you to swallow the drink to the bottom. It might scald at first, but by the bottom of the cup I think you'll be very satisfied.
You can't take 15 seconds out of your day to post a promise? It's only 15 seconds but is HUGE. Don't underestimate the power of Posting Roll and the Accountability that it brings.
Trev - There are thousands of guys that are on this site an have remained quit because posting every day works. There are twice as many that have failed because they thought they didn't have to post. The simple fact that you took the time to write that in you intro tells me that you are planning your cave and just aren't ready to quit. Seriously, "Posting roll just annoys me". How so? What is so annoying about it? I'm guessing you are or were an athlete. So was I and so were A LOT of the quitters on this site. Let me tell you, the camaraderie, support, brotherhood, fellowship, common bond and total ball busting that is what makes playing sports so special can be found right here. This is as close as it gets. If you don't recognize that, then you don't want to be quit. If you aren't blown away by the number of people that have taken time out of their day to write on your Intro to support you or give you a little tough love then you don't get it and are not ready.

It's your decision. Be quit or don't. Just make a decision.
Title: Re: Starting today
Post by: worktowin on September 08, 2013, 05:32:00 PM
There have been several posts by new members recently who haven't bought in to the daily roll call post requirement. I'm bumping this up to the top, because so many bad ass people on this board reached out to this dude... But he didn't want to quit. This system works - take a couple of minutes each morning and commit to yourself and others that for today you will be nicotine free. A couple of minutes.

And trev, I hope you see this post. Im 41 years old dude. 41. It took me 23 years longer than you to realize that I needed to quit. I went at it balls to the wall, and the quitters that reached out to help you... Many of the same ones walked me to the hall of fame and beyond. We all know that we dared cancer to come into our lives, to take us away from our family and friends too soon. Hopefully the quitters on here quit in time. You have a whole life ahead of you - you are at a crossroad... You can continue down this dangerous, dirty, and crazy expensive road of addiction. Or you can join us.

Please, please come back and follow the plan. Post roll first thing. Keep your word. Reach out with a text or a call to one of us if you find yourself in a situation where you feel vulnerable or just need some support. The people on ktc will do anything to help you. Let us help you.