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Title: Myself
Post by: almondj1191 on January 05, 2014, 12:45:00 PM
Hello all, my name is Justin, I have been dipping for 4 years, since I was able to buy a can. Dipping is something that has consumed my life and I want to be able to kick the habit. I have tried quitting in the past with obvious failure, most of the time it has been because of a girlfriend which makes me not want to dip, but now being single and not having anyone to push me through it is hard. I work in a shop where everyone dips, which has made quitting cold turkey very hard. Seeing everyone packing their lip just makes me want to grab another one. I want to quit for myself because I want to have a healthier lifestyle. Also our college campus is going tobacco free and that is even more of a reason for me to quit. I came here because I saw that I really could get that support that I need!

-Justin
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: cbird65 on January 05, 2014, 12:55:00 PM
This site can help you kick your nicotine addiction (not a habit) to the curb. We don't use words like try or hope as they are just another excuse for our addictive brains to tell us another lie. There are no short cuts, but here are some links that will help you navigate this site.

This a NO NICOTINE site. End of discussion. Why this Site Works (http://www.killthecan.org/about/why.asp)

Best thing to do is get familiar with this site and start building your quit defense.

Highly recommend you go here: Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13), Getting Acclimated (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614),  What to Expect (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)   Top Ten List  (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8382)

Your quit  Decision  (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1791&view=findpost&p=4771433) MUST be 100% about you. Anything short of that sets you up for failure by allowing your addict brain to blame a given situation as reason for you to go back to the can. Quitting out of fear, based on a medical issue, will fade as soon as the doctor or dentist gives you a clean bill of health.

Post Roll every day or communicate with someone and have them post via text, email or call. Get as many number of your group as you can and use them frequently. Keep in touch with your quit brothers. Send them a PM, text or call every few days just to keep an open line of communication. Give them your email address. Make it IMPOSSIBLE for you to go a day without several people contacting you all day if you don't post roll.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Mogul on January 05, 2014, 01:53:00 PM
I want to quit for myself because I want to have a healthier lifestyle

That was the only thing I saw in your intro that is making me post. You have to quit for yourself. Not some piece of ass or your campus, or your......... Just you. You have to respect yourself enough and realize that it is damn selfish to kill yourself on this poison when your family and/or loved ones depend on you. Just quit today, one day at a time.

Mogul
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: ScrewYouCope on January 05, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
Hey Justin,

Welcome to KTC! I would look into Smokey Mountain Tobacco/Nicotine free chew. I used it the first few weeks to get through the cravings. If you work in a shop where you are surrounded by it you could easily throw in some Smokey Mountain until you are strong enough to be around it. That may take some time! I actually had an old buddy over last night and he busted his can of Cope out and threw a fat dip in. I instantly was tempted. I went back to my room and grabbed my Smokey Mountain and threw it in! It got me through the temptation and preserved my 49 day quit!

PM me if you need a phone number for support! I'm always up for checking in via text!

ScrewYouCope~Josh
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Sharsky on January 06, 2014, 11:38:00 AM
Welcome Justin???? I think??? You have only one post, from yesterday, so your name cannot be on any roll call promising you wont dip today....so whatcha waiting for???

You must have known right away that dipping was bad for you? Your Intro states you've been dipping for 4 years, and you've been a member here on KTC for almost 4 years too.........

But only one post to date.

C'mon....Toss/flush your stash(es), post your promise not to use, and get your QUIT started. Then, and only then, will you get the support of ALL of these fine QUITTERS here on KTC....
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Wt57 on January 07, 2014, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: Sharsky
Welcome Justin???? I think??? You have only one post, from yesterday, so your name cannot be on any roll call promising you wont dip today....so whatcha waiting for???

You must have known right away that dipping was bad for you? Your Intro states you've been dipping for 4 years, and you've been a member here on KTC for almost 4 years too.........

But only one post to date.

C'mon....Toss/flush your stash(es), post your promise not to use, and get your QUIT started. Then, and only then, will you get the support of ALL of these fine QUITTERS here on KTC....
Can't see it happen! Prove me wrong Justin.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: wmcatty on January 07, 2014, 12:20:00 PM
Two days and still one intro post. Sounds like this guy needs someone to coddle his little nuts and wipe his nasty ass...but I doubt he will get that here. Maybe he will come back when he grows the hell up and realizes what nicotine is doing to his body. Until then, best regards.


PS-Early in my quit I was told by some vets not to waste too much time on the new quitters younger than 25, as they are so friggin smart that they could not be told anything...and their failure rate was really high...and it was usually just a waste of time trying to help them along.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 07, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: almondj1191
Hello all, my name is Justin, I have been dipping for 4 years, since I was able to buy a can. Dipping is something that has consumed my life and I want to be able to kick the habit.  I have tried quitting in the past with obvious failure, most of the time it has been because of a girlfriend which makes me not want to dip, but now being single and not having anyone to push me through it is hard.  I work in a shop where everyone dips, which has made quitting cold turkey very hard. Seeing everyone packing their lip just makes me want to grab another one. I want to quit for myself because I want to have a healthier lifestyle. Also our college campus is going tobacco free and that is even more of a reason for me to quit.  I came here because I saw that I really could get that support that I need!

-Justin
Almond sorry to single you out. This is not only geared toward you but to all that miss the mistress or fear being quit.

You are better when you have a girlfriend to quit? I have a wife of 22 years, I have kids. I was caught, embarrassed and ashamed. I would look into the eyes of those who loved me and feel so much shame that I vowed to be done.

Never happened. I always caved. I think what you mean is that you like accountability and that is good. However, anyone quitting for God, Friends, Family, Work, insurance etc is missing the one thing that must be realized.

I looked at the final can I bought 665 days ago and I just had this hatred for it. How could I let a can beat me? I quit over and over only to cave. I always thought I was poor in willpower. I wrestled and to make weight, I went two days without eating and one day without water. (Unhealthy yes) That's willpower, especially when I was still practicing and burning so many calories! So how could a can of cancer beat my willpower?

A-ha this must be what people mean by addiction! I am addicted and no matter how I try, like breathing, my addiction falsely tells me I need this as much as food and breathing!

So I became very sad and humble. With hat in hand, I went looking for help. I was lead and thank God for KTC.

I craved big time and it was difficult for the first year. Each 100 days got easier though. I say this because even though nicotine is my enemy, she stills seduces me and I understand cravings.

Here is what I don't understand

The glamorization of the Royal Can OF Misery and Lies!!!

Nicotine addiction is so evil because it is just as addictive as heroine but socially it is looked treated like a lessor drug or more accepted. Addiction is addiction no matter the product you use. Nicotine was my false God. Nicotine was my false Idol. Oh I said I would put my wife and children above anything. "I would give my life for my family!" What a crock of shit I was. No wait, my addiction caused me to be a crock of shit and lie.

I hate nicotine. I despise it. If nicotine was a person, I would hunt her down, knock her out, cut her throat, Kick her some more while she bleeds. Lift up her dress and cut off her penis. (She is a deceiver and is really a guy) Then dump gas on the body and light a match. While she sat there burning I would pee on her/him! I would report that I killed her and I would plead, "Not Guilty". I would be judged by a jury of my peers. My defense: USTobacco is a terrorist organization that doesn't give a shit about people, they value profits over human life. They are in bed with the US Government and the Government accepted lunch money to offer this organization protection. If I went to prison, so be it but nicotine would be dead and my children will never have to have this demon to fight anymore because she is dead!

(I guess I needed to Rant)

Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Fake chew is better than the real thing and if you must...you must. For me I hated her so much that I didn't even want to have the appearance of dipping. I was done. Not for anyone but for me. I drank the kool-aid and I LOVE BEING QUIT!!!!!!

Bottom line, I quit 100% for me. Everyone I associate with gets the benefit of an addict in recovery. Meaning I am a man of my word, I put my family first. I don't worship a false god or idol. I am Quit. I protect that quit by coming here daily to post roll and get therapy.

Do this or Don't. Luck and trying isn't part of the equation. In short, you are in for a battle. Embrace the suck and get your fucking game face on. You are fighting for freedom and its a battle well worth it.

I'm at war every damn day. You never go to war unless you plan to win. If you quit today, I quit with you but quit to win and do what the vets tell you to do.

You will not fail if you do this daily and repeat.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: jzzyzag01 on January 07, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: mogul
I want to quit for myself because I want to have a healthier lifestyle

That was the only thing I saw in your intro that is making me post. You have to quit for yourself. Not some piece of ass or your campus, or your......... Just you. You have to respect yourself enough and realize that it is damn selfish to kill yourself on this poison when your family and/or loved ones depend on you. Just quit today, one day at a time.

Mogul
--------^ Nuff said. Stay quit for you and you alone. The benefits will trickle down to others in time. Quit like hell today and own it.

I'll quit with you everyday that you'll put your life ahead of carcinogenic poison.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: almondj1191 on January 07, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
After coming back to this after missing yesterday I see that this is a strong community and that also I was not as clear as I should have been when I said I wanted to quit. The reason I never made a post yesterday was because I did not know what to do and never had a chance to check, and for that I apologize. As one person pointed out, yes I have been on here for 4 years, then I thought I wanted to quit, but instead let this addiction take back control. Now, as I have grown as a person I have found that I do want to quit, and yes the biggest reason is for myself, I hate how I am at this moment. Consumed by this addiction to the point that at times its all I think about "When can I get my next dip?" As I near graduation and enter the real world I want to change this person, I dont want people to see the guy with the dip in his mouth consumed by the addiction, I want them to see me for me and what I can bring to the table as an individual not just be the guy who comes in and is only gonna get stuff done with his lip packed full of dip (if that makes any sense at all). The reason I have never posted before the other day is like I said, I thought I wanted to quit, now I DO want to quit, and then I damn sure did not deserve to post on this site when I knew that I would not quit.

-Justin
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: ScrewYouCope on January 07, 2014, 03:55:00 PM
Justin,

Congrats on your day 1 posting roll! Just remember that is your promise to yourself and to everyone here that you will in no way, shape, or form use nicotine! It's our way to know that you have made that commitment to us, and when we post roll we have made the commitment to you! Now all you have to do is worry about keeping your promise today! Then get up tomorrow and make the same promise! There you have KTC in a nutshell!

FYI I dropped my phone number in a PM. Reach out if you need anything along the way! Also re-read MThomas's post below! He is one bad ass quitter! I text with him and some other guys damn near daily. He has a great perspective on the topic and is a pretty funny ass bastard!

I'm quit with you today!

Josh
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Sharsky on January 07, 2014, 06:25:00 PM
way to go Justin...i do gotta say i am surprised that you came back, but glad to see you post up. sounds like you have finally found the 'want' necessary to get your quit going...dig deep, you're gonna need the 'want' necessary to KEEP your quit going too.

Hopefully you've done some reading on here....shiite ton of info. Spend as much time as you can reading and learning about this lil addiction. She can be tricky. The more you know...the more you can be prepared. You'll find drinking water, water, water, and exercising excessively will both help. Keep yourself as distracted as you can with the reading, the drinking water, and whatever exercising you enjoy....

Ill quit with you today...buckle up, focus on doing whatever you need to these coming days to remain QUIT.

sent ya my digits if you need more for your toolkit.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 08, 2014, 01:00:00 AM
Bravo!!! 'clap'

I think your last post is...brilliant. Nice declaration of independence! I'm ready and excited to kick some nicotine ass with you. Follow the plan every day
and nicotine loses.

Going to be a war but you can win this and be free from her. You have allies to support you and the plan is fail proof if you follow it with exactness.

What do you need right now? How are you and withdrawals. We've been there and got through it. We get it and can help you stay focused if you write and express you thoughts and feelings. Yeah kind of ghey sounding but it works.

Welcome friend. I quit with you. My word and my promise is more important than humping a can.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 08, 2014, 01:25:00 AM
"Almond J's got nuts"

Way to post role and quit this shit at an early age.

It aint always gonna be easy, but its always gonna be worth it.

Welcome!!!
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: MN_Ben on January 08, 2014, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
"Almond J's got nuts"

Way to post role and quit this shit at an early age.

It aint always gonna be easy, but its always gonna be worth it.

Welcome!!!
^^ What he said!!

Congrats on deciding to quit this young.. I quit with you today Almond
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: almondj1191 on January 08, 2014, 09:49:00 AM
Day 2 I gotta say started off a little rough. The effect of my little morning ritual of breakfast and then a dip kicked in and I wanted one real bad but thanks to a can of Smokey Mountain I got past that crap. Spent several hours in the gym the past few days for who knows why, but I like it, its nice to only be focusing on pre-workout and protein consumption instead of nicotine.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: wmcatty on January 08, 2014, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: almondj1191
Day 2 I gotta say started off a little rough. The effect of my little morning ritual of breakfast and then a dip kicked in and I wanted one real bad but thanks to a can of Smokey Mountain I got past that crap. Spent several hours in the gym the past few days for who knows why, but I like it, its nice to only be focusing on pre-workout and protein consumption instead of nicotine.
Nice job of beating back the craves. Stay focused, drink plenty of liquids, carry on with the work outs and continue to prove me wrong about you. Wayne
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: almondj1191 on January 09, 2014, 01:20:00 PM
Day 3- the morning nic craving was not near as bad, still making the main focus just go to they gym. I think that is helping alot with the nic cravings, also today is the first day that I dont have anything to do other than go to the gym so this should be interesting, but I am not gonna touch the shit today.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: AppleJack on January 09, 2014, 01:28:00 PM
Quote from: almondj1191
Day 3- the morning nic craving was not near as bad, still making the main focus just go to they gym. I think that is helping alot with the nic cravings, also today is the first day that I dont have anything to do other than go to the gym so this should be interesting, but I am not gonna touch the shit today.

Staying active is key man! It keeps your mind of the craves and it helps you sleep. Make sure you're keeping the water flowing. Day 3... that nasty poison is outa your system in 3 days bro. Huge win for you today! Keep that in mind. Every +1 is a victory. Rock on...
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 09, 2014, 03:46:00 PM
Hey!!!! Your are already 3 - 0 with nicotine. Stay undefeated by winning and worrying about your match today. Who and why give two shits on what tomorrow brings? You are in today. Put your heart and soul into winning your match today.

Tomorrow will come soon enough but remaining undefeated...Don't lose site of today.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: almondj1191 on January 10, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
Day4-- OUT OF THE FOG!!! It sucked but I am thankful that it was not as bad as it could have been. Loving the feeling of no nicotine even though it may suck at times especially knowing that people aren't seeing me with a can of dip in my pocket and looking at me like "ewww he dips". Last night I had some bad cravings, the other two days I was very active with work, but having off yesterday I had nothing to do. I think my remedy is the gym actually, went and busted out some sets of squats in the weight room at our apartments and never once thought about nicotine after that. I keep telling myself, I am doing this for me no one else, because I know if I do it for me then others will reap the benefits of a non nicotine addicted me! I CAN DO THIS!!!!
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: almondj1191 on January 13, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
ONE WEEK DOWN! Gotta say other than a few rough patches with some cravings, mostly while being stressed out, I am feeling great! I feel like I have more energy than usual. I know its only been one week and there is still a long road ahead but gonna keep rollin one step at a time not letting the NB come back into my life.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: kana on January 13, 2014, 09:56:00 AM
Quote from: almondj1191
ONE WEEK DOWN! Gotta say other than a few rough patches with some cravings, mostly while being stressed out, I am feeling great! I feel like I have more energy than usual. I know its only been one week and there is still a long road ahead but gonna keep rollin one step at a time not letting the NB come back into my life.
odaat will set you free..
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: jzzyzag01 on January 13, 2014, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: almondj1191
ONE WEEK DOWN! Gotta say other than a few rough patches with some cravings, mostly while being stressed out, I am feeling great! I feel like I have more energy than usual. I know its only been one week and there is still a long road ahead but gonna keep rollin one step at a time not letting the NB come back into my life.
Nicely done. Keep piling up the wins, you'll be amazed what it looks like in no time at all. Congrats, but stay vigilant. You're still vulnerable to the NB, but you've got the tools to throat-punch her if she tries to talk to you. Proud to quit with you today.
Title: Re: Myself
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 13, 2014, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: jzzyzag01
Quote from: almondj1191
ONE WEEK DOWN! Gotta say other than a few rough patches with some cravings, mostly while being stressed out, I am feeling great! I feel like I have more energy than usual. I know its only been one week and there is still a long road ahead but gonna keep rollin one step at a time not letting the NB come back into my life.
Nicely done. Keep piling up the wins, you'll be amazed what it looks like in no time at all. Congrats, but stay vigilant. You're still vulnerable to the NB, but you've got the tools to throat-punch her if she tries to talk to you. Proud to quit with you today.
'clap'

Enjoy the good days....The shitty ones sneak up on you. When they do, remember that the days get better after a true battle won.