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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Bigdave on July 28, 2012, 06:03:00 AM
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Well..I've been wanting to quit for a long time! I go through those days of buying individual cans instead of rolls because I think I'm quitting..then back to buying rolls. I coach football, and our first official day we can practice is Monday. Two other coaches on my staff dip, and I know it's going to be hard trying to quit around them let alone quitting at the beginning of the season...been promising my wife for the last few years..after season. There's so much time after practice in the coaches office planning, on the field, driving to games, during games, victory dip, got our butt kicked dip, need something to get me going this morning because we just played Week night game and I have to get up early and teach dip...and so on..don't like etc... Any recommendations? I'm a big guy and I read about some people who get foggy or have hot flashes..don't wanna have hot flashes while I'm in 100+ degree Mississippi heat during two-a-days. Really wanna kick this though.
Dave
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Well..I've been wanting to quit for a long time! I go through those days of buying individual cans instead of rolls because I think I'm quitting..then back to buying rolls. I coach football, and our first official day we can practice is Monday. Two other coaches on my staff dip, and I know it's going to be hard trying to quit around them let alone quitting at the beginning of the season...been promising my wife for the last few years..after season. There's so much time after practice in the coaches office planning, on the field, driving to games, during games, victory dip, got our butt kicked dip, need something to get me going this morning because we just played Week night game and I have to get up early and teach dip...and so on..don't like etc... Any recommendations? I'm a big guy and I read about some people who get foggy or have hot flashes..don't wanna have hot flashes while I'm in 100+ degree Mississippi heat during two-a-days. Really wanna kick this though.
Dave
You've come to the right place Dave if you want to kick this bitch. This is the beginning of your season of QUIT. Throw out all your stashes, look deep inside yourself and all we ask here is that you make that promise to quit for 1 day. The honor that promise. Then tommorrow when you wake, make that same promise again.
You will have 72 hours of hard times as the nic bitch leaves your system. Tons of water and exercise will help alleviate symptoms of withdrawal. I really never got the hot's, so have no experience there.
Get ready for a great game coach and remember when you are here at this site you are one of our team members as well.
yell if ya have any questions
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Well..I've been wanting to quit for a long time! I go through those days of buying individual cans instead of rolls because I think I'm quitting..then back to buying rolls. I coach football, and our first official day we can practice is Monday. Two other coaches on my staff dip, and I know it's going to be hard trying to quit around them let alone quitting at the beginning of the season...been promising my wife for the last few years..after season. There's so much time after practice in the coaches office planning, on the field, driving to games, during games, victory dip, got our butt kicked dip, need something to get me going this morning because we just played Week night game and I have to get up early and teach dip...and so on..don't like etc... Any recommendations? I'm a big guy and I read about some people who get foggy or have hot flashes..don't wanna have hot flashes while I'm in 100+ degree Mississippi heat during two-a-days. Really wanna kick this though.
Dave
Dave I've been setting here waiting for you to post! I don't know why I couldn't sleep, saw you register then come here and started posting. So I've just been waiting for you. There is always excuses believe me we've heard them all. If you want to quit (I mean want more than anything you have ever wanted) you can quit! You are an addict if you don't already know it! This is no habit, it is a addiction very similar to heroine or cocaine. That's right you are a fucking drug addict!!! I quit 119 days ago and have done the same thing every morning since! You can too! We all come here early every day post a promise in our roll call to our group to not use nicotine in any form for that day! If you quit now you will be in theNovember Pre HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6793) go there and post roll and begin your journey and know you are not alone you have a army of support here to help you through the daily or hourly battles! We all are doing the same thing! Check your inbox(1) upper right.
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As a football coach, I'm sure you use words like accountability and honor all the time. I bet you give pre-game speeches that include stuff about having each other's back and watching out for you teammates on the field. You teach your players the value of things like determination and hard work. You ask them to look inside and dig deep when the odds are against them....
Apply all of the things you do every day to your quit. Post roll every day and honor it. It's a simple process. You can quit for 1 day right? That's all we do here. We quit today. Then tomorrow we post roll and quit again for 1 day.
Anyone can keep dipping brother - it takes a bad mfer to quit. You are no different than anyone else here. Dipped for 30 years? seen it. Dip 3 cans a day? seen it. Coach football? seen it. Had trouble quitting because of your environment and triggers? seen it. You have the power to take control. Only you can do it.
The hardest step is the first one. I never believed that I could quit. Here I am 61 days later. A walking breathing example of how this site works.
If your fellow coaches want to keep dipping, thats 's their business - you aren't them. You are you. Take control man - you will never regret it.
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Dave, your intro really hit a cord with me. Just replace football with baseball. I dipped a can a day for 32 years. For the last 10 years it was always going to be my last can for a lot of reasons. I am not 58 days into my quit and feeling great. I am amazed at how that nic bitch controlled my time and my life. Quit for you, use this site. It works when everything else seemed to fail. Personal accountability and a network of badass quitters to hold you accountable is a great thing. I am quit with you today !!
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Dave,
Look at the number of people reaching out to you already and all you did was post I think I want to quit. Where else will you ever hope to find this type of support. On top of that you will be getting help from people who have walked the road you want to be on.
Freedom can be yours if you want it. You just have to dump your stash, post your word and keep it. The offers have been extended.... Choice is yours.
Never Again !!
Greg
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Dave,
Click on the link that says Randy's Story at the bottom of this post.
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Dave -
Kicking this shit is hard. You gotta want it more than anything else in your life. I just don't get the feeling you are at that point yet. Maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds like you want to quit but only if it is not going to cause you any discomfort.
Well...it ain't going to be that way. Quitting is hard and it sucks. No way around it. Quitting is a painful up and down roller coaster of emotions. Did I mention that it sucks?
So, if you are ready....and I really hope that you are...it'd make me feel real good to hear how much you really want this, how much you really hate big tobacco, how you hate being a drug addict, and how you want to quit for one reason --- for you.
Anything less is leaving yourself open to failure.
And that sucks.
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Thanks guys for all the support..I guess the one mistake I made was leaving one pinch left...should have thrown it away, but I figure I would have gone to the store anyway. KTB..you're right..I'm not ready I guess..but when I am, I'll be back..i think this forum and network of people can help me when I get in the shit.
Dave
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Okay Dave. About 12 hours have passed, a whole bunch of support has been offered and I don't see post in November 12. I've been hanging around this place for a little bit. And I happen to know the very secret to getting this done. My secret voodoo magic will show you light: its the power inside you. Its that voice that says you're strong enough. Its the voice that says you can accomplish anything. Its the guy looking back at you in the mirror who you know so well but don't want to trust enough to believe he can do it. Be that guy. Put your word down that you are quit today. Let's stop fucking around and get on the path to owning your life again.
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Thanks soulman. I'll start posting roll when I'm serious..don't wanna waste yalls time. Won't be today cause I got a big juicy in right now..but when I post roll I want to be sure I'm committed to kicking it. Thanks for the support man!
Dave
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Serious? When you're serious? Dave...you know how many dips it takes to get cancer? How many it takes to start the chain reaction that's puts you down the path to having your face removed? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvpFJ6QEYdU&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL745C682F9B0523C8)
If you don't think what you are doing is serious, then you are being a fool. Do you want freedom? You didn't come here for the scenery you came here for the help. God dammit. Fight. It can start today. Fight. Make a fucking step towards freedom. Towards no longer consciously stuffing poison in your mouth. You are worth more. Yes. Believe that. Tell yourself that. You are worth more. Now take back your life and spit that shit out of your mouth and start walking the path with the rest of us addicts. Yeah. We're all addicts. You are not special. I know you can do this. That is a truth. I know because I was just like you 607 days ago. Then I switched my panties for boxer shorts and grabbed the nic bitch by the throat and started shaping myself into the man I am today. One step at a time. One day at a time. If there is quit in your at all, there is quit in you now. Not a month from now. Not a week. Not an hour. NOW. This moment. If you can do it at all, you can do it now.
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Thanks soulman. I'll start posting roll when I'm serious..don't wanna waste yalls time. Won't be today cause I got a big juicy in right now..but when I post roll I want to be sure I'm committed to kicking it. Thanks for the support man!
Dave
Really? Big bad football coach can't man up? Maybe your team should tell you to take your two a days and shove m up your ass - until they get ready to do something. What's scarier is the fucked up role model you are for those kids.
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So you coach powderpuff football huh!! No balls was the 1st clue!!
Becareful one of the real men you coach doesnt nail you.
Seriously I really had hoped you were for real. If you man up I'm still quitting with you!!
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Do you really mean that your life is not worth fighting for? Anything in life that is hard takes effort. That's one of the messages you ought to be preaching to the kids you coach.
Too bad you aren't willing to walk the walk.
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Pussy. Yep, I called you a pussy. Prove me wrong. Step up, man up, throw that shit away and fucking quit. None of us thought we could do it. It sucks for every fucking one of us. But we get each other though the day. That's it. Today. We will worry about getting through tomorrow when we wake up.
You CAN do this. Stop telling lies to your wife and to your team. They deserve a better you. You do, too.
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Thanks soulman. I'll start posting roll when I'm serious..don't wanna waste yalls time. Won't be today cause I got a big juicy in right now..but when I post roll I want to be sure I'm committed to kicking it. Thanks for the support man!
Dave
What the fuck? You come in here asking us to help you quit and man after man line up to help you along the way only to have you step back and spit in their faces.
Then you have the audacity to come back in here saying you have your face stuffed with a dip? So not only do you spit in our faces for trying too help, you piss on everything this site stands for. I suppose you would be the kind of guy to bring a six pack to an AA meeting.
You are right, you are not ready. You do not deserve to be on the same pages with these men. When/if you decide you are ready come back and show us you mean what you say we will be here free from the little weed you suck on daily.
Until then I ask you to stop posting anything here while you have your face
stuffed with tobacco.
UNFUCKINGREAL....
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Thanks soulman. I'll start posting roll when I'm serious..don't wanna waste yalls time. Won't be today cause I got a big juicy in right now..but when I post roll I want to be sure I'm committed to kicking it. Thanks for the support man!
Dave
What the fuck? You come in here asking us to help you quit and man after man line up to help you along the way only to have you step back and spit in their faces.
Then you have the audacity to come back in here saying you have your face stuffed with a dip? So not only do you spit in our faces for trying too help, you piss on everything this site stands for. I suppose you would be the kind of guy to bring a six pack to an AA meeting.
You are right, you are not ready. You do not deserve to be on the same pages with these men. When/if you decide you are ready come back and show us you mean what you say we will be here free from the little weed you suck on daily.
Until then I ask you to stop posting anything here while you have your face
stuffed with tobacco.
UNFUCKINGREAL....
You have a big fat one in right now? What a fucking d bag. I assume you coach hs football? Nice example to set for those kids. One of my hs football coaches dipped too...I thought he was cool as hell yelling at us with a lip full of shit. After hs I realized he was a total ass clown. Also he had to have skin taken from the roof of his mouth sewn to his lower lip. You're not serious about quitting so to use a football term, punt your ass out of here and quit wasting everyones time. Hope you don't tell your team to "dig deep" this season when you're a Pusey ass bitch digging nothing more than your eventual grave. Read the Kern family story if you think nothing bad can happen to big bad football "men".
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Thanks soulman. I'll start posting roll when I'm serious..don't wanna waste yalls time. Won't be today cause I got a big juicy in right now..but when I post roll I want to be sure I'm committed to kicking it. Thanks for the support man!
Dave
What the fuck? You come in here asking us to help you quit and man after man line up to help you along the way only to have you step back and spit in their faces.
Then you have the audacity to come back in here saying you have your face stuffed with a dip? So not only do you spit in our faces for trying too help, you piss on everything this site stands for. I suppose you would be the kind of guy to bring a six pack to an AA meeting.
You are right, you are not ready. You do not deserve to be on the same pages with these men. When/if you decide you are ready come back and show us you mean what you say we will be here free from the little weed you suck on daily.
Until then I ask you to stop posting anything here while you have your face
stuffed with tobacco.
UNFUCKINGREAL....
You have a big fat one in right now? What a fucking d bag. I assume you coach hs football? Nice example to set for those kids. One of my hs football coaches dipped too...I thought he was cool as hell yelling at us with a lip full of shit. After hs I realized he was a total ass clown. Also he had to have skin taken from the roof of his mouth sewn to his lower lip. You're not serious about quitting so to use a football term, punt your ass out of here and quit wasting everyones time. Hope you don't tell your team to "dig deep" this season when you're a Pusey ass bitch digging nothing more than your eventual grave. Read the Kern family story if you think nothing bad can happen to big bad football "men".
I was not going to comment on this because I'm not totally convinced Dave is for real! If you are and you come here and tell us all this shit I see very little difference between you and coach Jerry Sandusky, who was convicted of 45 counts of sexual abuse of children. You are abusing these young men you coach in a different way but just as harmful of a way. You are introducing and glamorizing a lifestyle of drug usage. You coach are encouraging this killing lifestyle!
Show you have some balls! Coach Dave (sandusky) either flush that poisonous drug and join us in quitting nicotine or for the love of God and these young men quit coaching and abusing these guys that look up to you as a role model! I would go one step further besides quitting tabacco you should campaign against it use in your school, doing everything you can to put your influence to work to prevent young people from ever starting!! You will not find anyone of us addicts that wouldn't give anything not to have taken that first dip, and most of those first dips were in High School!!
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Not comparable.
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Post roll now!! Why wait!! And fuck me!! I don't give a shit what you think of me as long as you quit and you quit being a killer role model to young men!! Man up and not only quit but do something positive to kill tabacco use among the-boys that Look up to you! I put my hand out there and it is still there if you quit. Rage before you quit??? Just wait!!!
It's not you saying you had a mouth full that set me off
Keep reading, see how many of us started dipping during high school sports! If coaches reached out and discouraged it and actually taught the dangers maybe some of us and countless others would have spared a life of addiction. How many Tom and Jenny Kerns or Randy's stories could be prevented! Fuck me again! I'm old I could die now and I've lived a long miserable addicted life I really don't give a shit! But when I do die I will tell you one thing. I can say never have I let an opportunity go by to talk the evils of tabacco, even though I wasn't forth coming and honest about my own use!
I really hesitate to do this but I'm going to: to begin my story I am not seeking sympathy in telling my story. I have never spoken openly about this but as a young lad I was repeatedly sexually abused by a family friend and role model!! My life was ruined because of this abuse! I have lived with that skeleton in my closet for over 50 years, my wife was the first person I told and that was the first week of my quit. Just as I was learning to cope with life in high school I was again attact by another adult role model a high school teacher and wresting coach! This attack wasn't sexual in nature, it was a combination of emotional, physical abuse combined with using my peers to attact me, but was equally distructve and left me with emotionally scars. These two life altering series of events lead me into a life of depression. I was introduced to nicotine and alcohol during this difficult time and I associate my addictions to these events. I wasn't trying to one up anyone! Rather I was trying to make a point you don't have to stick your dick in the young men to do permanent damage to them!! A poor example that leads to deadly distructve behavior may have lasting effects that are just as distructve! For me I honestly can't say which abuse had the more distructve effect. Over 100 days ago I had to deal with my abuse. I had to face the demons they were trying to derail my quit. I ceremonially had to flush all of those events down the toilet like I had my last 3 cans of Copenhagen a couple weeks earlier. I successfully did rid myself of this. Then tonight I read this thread and memories, anger, hatred and everything about my high school abuse came rushing back! I have aquired tools here to help me cope with life and will move on now but I will not back down on the comments I made, abuse comes in many forms! There was more that came out of this tread that I have to deal with but now is not the time.
Dave you can continue to tell me to fuck off I really am not hurt by that! If you were here you could beat my fucking eyes in I'd still say the same thing. My hand is still extended your quit is important to me. But even more important your example to the team!!
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Fucking BRAVO Wt. I admire the determination and the quest that you are on. Proud to be a part of ANY thing you are a part of.
Big Dave, before you re-post or respond to anything today, read back through this thread. The things you have said and the things we have said. I hope you get it this time around. We are not trying to bully you into quitting. We genuinely want you to quit. For your sake, not ours. This site and these people will save your life, and ask nothing in return.
Post Roll this morning, and begin the journey. You will be glad you did. Reach out, let us show you there is a better life! Use the pm, contact some of us. It doesn't have to be Wt. But one day, if you quit with us, I promise you will go back to him and thank him. This IS the most important thing you can do right now.
QLAFM
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Big Dave - I'm also a 30 year dipper and a football coach. Like you I am getting ready to start camp for the first time (ever - coach or player) without nicotine. Today is day 45 for me so the fear of engaging in activities where we ceremoniously dipped is subsiding - I have done many things this year that I never thought could be done without dip (fighting wildfires, backpacking, fishing, a family week in the Outer Banks, hanging around my chainsmoking brother, etc.). The truth is that "thinking" about doing certain things without dip is scarier than actually doing it. In fact, you may find you enjoy them even more without dip.
I always used football, fishing, and my chew-addicted friends as crutches to avoid quitting. The truth is - nothing makes you chew except yourself- nobody throws you on the ground and shoves a pound of copenhagen down your throat. You wake up every day and make the same choice you have every day of your life: chew or no chew.
These guys are pounding on you because they know you are still choosing to use.
Quit with me and we'll get through camp together - we'll come out on the other side with healthy gums and well-deserved pride in having the courage to wade through hell with the rest of the quiiters.
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The truth is that "thinking" about doing certain things without dip is scarier than actually doing it. In fact, you may find you enjoy them even more without dip.
Knowledge is power.
Nice work Swede.
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The truth is that "thinking" about doing certain things without dip is scarier than actually doing it. In fact, you may find you enjoy them even more without dip.
Knowledge is power.
Nice work Swede.
Nice job posting roll this morning Dave. PM me if there is anything you need. I just started myself, so we are in this together. BE STRONG!!!
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Great job Dave on posting a Day 1! You have promised that you will not use nicotine in any form today. And every quitter on this site supports you. And all of that support costs you nothing more than promising to not put cancer candy in your lip. That's a mighty fine fucking deal, if you ask me.
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Nice work bro. You have made a tremendous decision. You got to know that you are not alone in this. There are a ton of folks here that can and will help if you let them know. So in your hour of need, reach out. Get on the boards. Text a quit brother. Let someone know.
I quit with you.
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Great Decision. Make sure you spend time reading what we do here and how we do it.
Knowledge is power and there is more knowledge here than you could every hope to find somewhere else.
Welcome to the party
Greg
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Great Decision. Make sure you spend time reading what we do here and how we do it.
Knowledge is power and there is more knowledge here than you could every hope to find somewhere else.
Welcome to the party
Greg
Congrats Dave.
Now follow the advice of ALL the vets, don't give a shit if you like WT or not. Dude is rock solid in his quit. Get involved and stay active in the site, it will only increase your odds of staying quit. Discount people all you want, just don't discount what they say if they've walked further on the trail than you. There are plenty of people here who would walk through hell to see one of their brothers through an intense cave moment, that's why our intensity is as high as it is. Your respect, just like every other newbies, will be earned over time, it is not granted when you pass through the door. Glad to see you posted roll, now let's get your quit kicked into high gear.
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Awesome, now let see what you are made of! Promise us today, we will give you everything we have! Quit beside you Bro!
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
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Thanks to all the guys that sent their support today. I didn't post today after roll but I thought about some guys on the forum today as the day went on. The hay's in the barn and no nicotine. We'll see how things go tomorrow. Again, thanks for the support.
Dave
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Thanks to all the guys that sent their support today. I didn't post today after roll but I thought about some guys on the forum today as the day went on. The hay's in the barn and no nicotine. We'll see how things go tomorrow. Again, thanks for the support.
Dave
Dave,
Good on you making through. Know thiis: The days are going to get MUCH easier real soon. The craves will stop being as intense, they won't last as long, and they will get further and further apart. Freedom is yours for the taking.
The first three days are sucky, but you never have to repeat them.
Be looking for your roll post today.
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Thanks to all the guys that sent their support today. I didn't post today after roll but I thought about some guys on the forum today as the day went on. The hay's in the barn and no nicotine. We'll see how things go tomorrow. Again, thanks for the support.
Dave
Dave,
Congratulations on making the right choice. First three are the toughest, then every day after gets better and better. See you on November roll.
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.
Agreed Coach.....
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.
Agreed Coach.....
After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.
Agreed Coach.....
After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.
He doesn't owe WT an apology. He's in the midst of some serious battles with his nic-bitch master. Just thinking about not getting the next fix is cause for a nic-rage. BigDave will need to do a lot more nic-raging. I've been there. Most all of us have been there.
BigDave, just quit today. Keep your word. Don't worry about an apology. Just keep reading, and drinking the koolaide. You worry about keeping your word.
In a few weeks, re-read this thread and see how you feel about WT (who is right, BTW). For now, just keep quitting every minute, hour, etc. Rage like hell on this forum. Call everyone an asshole, whatever. Just keep quit. I seriously doubt WT expects or gives a rats ass about an apology. He (like me) just wants you to understand better how the addict mind works, which is key to staying quit.
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.
Agreed Coach.....
After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.
He doesn't owe WT an apology. He's in the midst of some serious battles with his nic-bitch master. Just thinking about not getting the next fix is cause for a nic-rage. BigDave will need to do a lot more nic-raging. I've been there. Most all of us have been there.
BigDave, just quit today. Keep your word. Don't worry about an apology. Just keep reading, and drinking the koolaide. You worry about keeping your word.
In a few weeks, re-read this thread and see how you feel about WT (who is right, BTW). For now, just keep quitting every minute, hour, etc. Rage like hell on this forum. Call everyone an asshole, whatever. Just keep quit. I seriously doubt WT expects or gives a rats ass about an apology. He (like me) just wants you to understand better how the addict mind works, which is key to staying quit.
Agree he doesn't owe any apology. The point WT was making was a good one, but the analogy was a bad one. Comparing a guy who dips, whether in front of kids or not, to a convicted child molester who raped defenseless kids for at least 15 years is over the top. I'd be pissed too.
The same point could have been made 100 different ways without using Sandusky's name.
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Amen, Zam.
BigDave needs to focus on BigDave right now and get through the grinder the same as we all did.
There were plenty of people I pissed off that first week - people I love and cherish, namely, my wife and kids. They knew it was time to give me space and let me slide on bad behavior. Once I came out on the other side, I have had plenty of time to apologize and express my appreciation for their unconditional support.
Christ, let BigDave get through the day and start over tomorrow.
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.
Agreed Coach.....
After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.
He doesn't owe WT an apology. He's in the midst of some serious battles with his nic-bitch master. Just thinking about not getting the next fix is cause for a nic-rage. BigDave will need to do a lot more nic-raging. I've been there. Most all of us have been there.
BigDave, just quit today. Keep your word. Don't worry about an apology. Just keep reading, and drinking the koolaide. You worry about keeping your word.
In a few weeks, re-read this thread and see how you feel about WT (who is right, BTW). For now, just keep quitting every minute, hour, etc. Rage like hell on this forum. Call everyone an asshole, whatever. Just keep quit. I seriously doubt WT expects or gives a rats ass about an apology. He (like me) just wants you to understand better how the addict mind works, which is key to staying quit.
Agree he doesn't owe any apology. The point WT was making was a good one, but the analogy was a bad one. Comparing a guy who dips, whether in front of kids or not, to a convicted child molester who raped defenseless kids for at least 15 years is over the top. I'd be pissed too.
The same point could have been made 100 different ways without using Sandusky's name.
Soooooooo sorry guys. Didn't know people get a free pass after telling a quitter to fuck off while he admittedly has a juicy one tucked in his lip. My bad. You get to rage all you want once you quit, not while your sucking cat turds. For the record, that's where I draw the distinction. However, I suppose we'll just have to leave this one alone since he did finally quit. Not like he was going to apologize anyways......
Now which one of you peacemakers is going to volunteer to be Big Dave's mentor?
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.
Agreed Coach.....
After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.
He doesn't owe WT an apology. He's in the midst of some serious battles with his nic-bitch master. Just thinking about not getting the next fix is cause for a nic-rage. BigDave will need to do a lot more nic-raging. I've been there. Most all of us have been there.
BigDave, just quit today. Keep your word. Don't worry about an apology. Just keep reading, and drinking the koolaide. You worry about keeping your word.
In a few weeks, re-read this thread and see how you feel about WT (who is right, BTW). For now, just keep quitting every minute, hour, etc. Rage like hell on this forum. Call everyone an asshole, whatever. Just keep quit. I seriously doubt WT expects or gives a rats ass about an apology. He (like me) just wants you to understand better how the addict mind works, which is key to staying quit.
Agree he doesn't owe any apology. The point WT was making was a good one, but the analogy was a bad one. Comparing a guy who dips, whether in front of kids or not, to a convicted child molester who raped defenseless kids for at least 15 years is over the top. I'd be pissed too.
The same point could have been made 100 different ways without using Sandusky's name.
Soooooooo sorry guys. Didn't know people get a free pass after telling a quitter to fuck off while he admittedly has a juicy one tucked in his lip. My bad. You get to rage all you want once you quit, not while your sucking cat turds. For the record, that's where I draw the distinction. However, I suppose we'll just have to leave this one alone since he did finally quit. Not like he was going to apologize anyways......
Now which one of you peacemakers is going to volunteer to be Big Dave's mentor?
Didn't realize that quitting and apologizing were mutually exclusive.
We teach the rules and regs of this site, including how to post, when to post, why to post, where to post. We tell them to exchange numbers, read the site, ask questions, participate, jump on live chat. The seem to be able to do all those things and quit at the same time. I guess acting like a decent human being is out of the question.
I'm sorry but an uncalled for verbal assault doesn't get a pass in my book.
That's just me.
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I understand I shouldn't have said I had a dip in..i apologize for typing that..but I'm honest.
I get the whole tough love thing but what I don't get is being compared to sandusky. Idipped snuff..i didn't rape young boys. Go fuck yourself wt57.You're the same one who wanted to swap phone numbers in my inbox..fuck off and fuck you. Sounded like you just wanted to one up all the other guys that jumped on my ass. I know you wouldn't say that shit to my face without me beating your fuckin eyes out.
To all you other guys who jumped on my ass...I'll take it like a fuckin man. I shouldn't have said I had a dip in. I get it. I plan on tomorrow being day 1 of my quit. There's no snuff in the house, truck, or fieldhouse. I hope to post roll when I wake up.
and again wt57..fuck you
Big Dave you got KTO'd Pal. I got slapped around a little too when I first got on here. If you got thin skin - move along because you're probably gonna cave or pussy out! I almost did myself! I almost said FU to the site and everybody here.. I caved after one day! Had I done that, I'd still be dipping! 30 years worth here! In the morning I will have 50 days.. WT has helped more folks than anybody I know here. You talk a big game Pal.. If you want to quit get on board we will all help you.. if you don't - don't talk shit about the real fucking quitters! Gooch
The man put his word down today that's he quit.
Great, good for him. He still owes WT a fucking apology for being a giant douche.
Agreed Coach.....
After reading the thread, yeah...he does owe WT an apology whether he's quit or not. The analogy that he was making was plain as day and wasn't meant to piss you off or insult you. Quitting nic makes you angry, Nic rage is very real. But you going off on someone who's sticking their hand out to help you in an evident way is not the way to start off your journey here.
He doesn't owe WT an apology. He's in the midst of some serious battles with his nic-bitch master. Just thinking about not getting the next fix is cause for a nic-rage. BigDave will need to do a lot more nic-raging. I've been there. Most all of us have been there.
BigDave, just quit today. Keep your word. Don't worry about an apology. Just keep reading, and drinking the koolaide. You worry about keeping your word.
In a few weeks, re-read this thread and see how you feel about WT (who is right, BTW). For now, just keep quitting every minute, hour, etc. Rage like hell on this forum. Call everyone an asshole, whatever. Just keep quit. I seriously doubt WT expects or gives a rats ass about an apology. He (like me) just wants you to understand better how the addict mind works, which is key to staying quit.
Agree he doesn't owe any apology. The point WT was making was a good one, but the analogy was a bad one. Comparing a guy who dips, whether in front of kids or not, to a convicted child molester who raped defenseless kids for at least 15 years is over the top. I'd be pissed too.
The same point could have been made 100 different ways without using Sandusky's name.
Soooooooo sorry guys. Didn't know people get a free pass after telling a quitter to fuck off while he admittedly has a juicy one tucked in his lip. My bad. You get to rage all you want once you quit, not while your sucking cat turds. For the record, that's where I draw the distinction. However, I suppose we'll just have to leave this one alone since he did finally quit. Not like he was going to apologize anyways......
Now which one of you peacemakers is going to volunteer to be Big Dave's mentor?
Didn't realize that quitting and apologizing were mutually exclusive.
We teach the rules and regs of this site, including how to post, when to post, why to post, where to post. We tell them to exchange numbers, read the site, ask questions, participate, jump on live chat. The seem to be able to do all those things and quit at the same time. I guess acting like a decent human being is out of the question.
I'm sorry but an uncalled for verbal assault doesn't get a pass in my book.
That's just me.
I agree with Wedge.... the Sandusky comment was over the top.
And I'll volunteer to be his mentor.
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Day 2 is in the books...finding it hard to stay awake if I sit idle. I just stayed busy today with two-a-days..hot as shit outside. During practice I'll start thinking about the routine like I used to do once I get back in the AC in the coaches office get me a fat one while we discuss the day's practice and plan tomorrow's, but I got my mind off it and keep telling myself that I can't go back to it. Steadfast today..hope for the same tomorrow. Thanks to all you guys that threw some support my way and for quitting with me on the roll. It means a lot.
Dave
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Day 2 is in the books...finding it hard to stay awake if I sit idle. I just stayed busy today with two-a-days..hot as shit outside. During practice I'll start thinking about the routine like I used to do once I get back in the AC in the coaches office get me a fat one while we discuss the day's practice and plan tomorrow's, but I got my mind off it and keep telling myself that I can't go back to it. Steadfast today..hope for the same tomorrow. Thanks to all you guys that threw some support my way and for quitting with me on the roll. It means a lot.
Dave
Much respect man. I busted your balls but I know that shit cant be easy. I'm sure you are a hell of a coach. Just remember dip did/does not define you. Dip did not make you a good coach. Hell it could have been holding you back from your max potential.
You were not born with nic in your blood, you don't need it. I know that's easy to say as I too still struggle with triggers where I THINK a dip would relax me. But its simply not true. Dip doesn't do that. All u do is fill your nic urge and the minute you spit that shit out the clock starts ticking again. Not a clock for you to relax again but a fucking time bomb clock til the nic gets your lip loaded up again. You keep feeding the clock thinking your relaxing and rewarding yourself til one day you're fucking teeth are shit black, your gums are shredded, your teeth are all but gone, and you have cancer and fucking die or end up looking like a freak show.
Your a bad ass football coach. What if one of your players was in your head telling you.what to do. You'd be in that kids shit busting his balls til he barfed every day. Don't let a can full of posion leaves lead you around either. I know its gonna be hard but son of a bitch it will be worth it!!!!
Good luck, Coach!
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Day 2 is in the books...finding it hard to stay awake if I sit idle. I just stayed busy today with two-a-days..hot as shit outside. During practice I'll start thinking about the routine like I used to do once I get back in the AC in the coaches office get me a fat one while we discuss the day's practice and plan tomorrow's, but I got my mind off it and keep telling myself that I can't go back to it. Steadfast today..hope for the same tomorrow. Thanks to all you guys that threw some support my way and for quitting with me on the roll. It means a lot.
Dave
Much respect man. I busted your balls but I know that shit cant be easy. I'm sure you are a hell of a coach. Just remember dip did/does not define you. Dip did not make you a good coach. Hell it could have been holding you back from your max potential.
You were not born with nic in your blood, you don't need it. I know that's easy to say as I too still struggle with triggers where I THINK a dip would relax me. But its simply not true. Dip doesn't do that. All u do is fill your nic urge and the minute you spit that shit out the clock starts ticking again. Not a clock for you to relax again but a fucking time bomb clock til the nic gets your lip loaded up again. You keep feeding the clock thinking your relaxing and rewarding yourself til one day you're fucking teeth are shit black, your gums are shredded, your teeth are all but gone, and you have cancer and fucking die or end up looking like a freak show.
Your a bad ass football coach. What if one of your players was in your head telling you.what to do. You'd be in that kids shit busting his balls til he barfed every day. Don't let a can full of posion leaves lead you around either. I know its gonna be hard but son of a bitch it will be worth it!!!!
Good luck, Coach!
Never underestimate the power of one day of quit. I idolized my high school football coach. I bummed my first dip from him. Looking back on it he might as well have given me a loaded gun and told me Russian roulette was cool. Your doing the right thing, don't hope just do. Quit two days , you can make it three. Infact it is a proven truth that after the third day of quit your penis increases in size by three inches. I swear I'm not lying ask anybody. Prove me wrong , I dare ya.
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Day 2 is in the books...finding it hard to stay awake if I sit idle. I just stayed busy today with two-a-days..hot as shit outside. During practice I'll start thinking about the routine like I used to do once I get back in the AC in the coaches office get me a fat one while we discuss the day's practice and plan tomorrow's, but I got my mind off it and keep telling myself that I can't go back to it. Steadfast today..hope for the same tomorrow. Thanks to all you guys that threw some support my way and for quitting with me on the roll. It means a lot.
Dave
Much respect man. I busted your balls but I know that shit cant be easy. I'm sure you are a hell of a coach. Just remember dip did/does not define you. Dip did not make you a good coach. Hell it could have been holding you back from your max potential.
You were not born with nic in your blood, you don't need it. I know that's easy to say as I too still struggle with triggers where I THINK a dip would relax me. But its simply not true. Dip doesn't do that. All u do is fill your nic urge and the minute you spit that shit out the clock starts ticking again. Not a clock for you to relax again but a fucking time bomb clock til the nic gets your lip loaded up again. You keep feeding the clock thinking your relaxing and rewarding yourself til one day you're fucking teeth are shit black, your gums are shredded, your teeth are all but gone, and you have cancer and fucking die or end up looking like a freak show.
Your a bad ass football coach. What if one of your players was in your head telling you.what to do. You'd be in that kids shit busting his balls til he barfed every day. Don't let a can full of posion leaves lead you around either. I know its gonna be hard but son of a bitch it will be worth it!!!!
Good luck, Coach!
Never underestimate the power of one day of quit. I idolized my high school football coach. I bummed my first dip from him. Looking back on it he might as well have given me a loaded gun and told me Russian roulette was cool. Your doing the right thing, don't hope just do. Quit two days , you can make it three. Infact it is a proven truth that after the third day of quit your penis increases in size by three inches. I swear I'm not lying ask anybody. Prove me wrong , I dare ya.
Sm
Skoal Monster is correct. For the average man it's 3.25", Of course I've never been average, so I got 4". Some stats say that at 100 days you get another 3".
Seriously though, keep tagging your thoughts in here. It'll be nice to take a walk down memory lane some day. It'll also serve as reinforcement when the going gets tough. No hope can get you through. Faith and accountability, 2 factors that make up any good team.
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Day 2 is in the books...finding it hard to stay awake if I sit idle. I just stayed busy today with two-a-days..hot as shit outside. During practice I'll start thinking about the routine like I used to do once I get back in the AC in the coaches office get me a fat one while we discuss the day's practice and plan tomorrow's, but I got my mind off it and keep telling myself that I can't go back to it. Steadfast today..hope for the same tomorrow. Thanks to all you guys that threw some support my way and for quitting with me on the roll.
It means a lot.
Dave
Much respect man. I busted your balls but I know that shit cant be easy. I'm sure you are a hell of a coach. Just remember dip did/does not define you. Dip did not make you a good coach. Hell it could have been holding you back from your max potential.
You were not born with nic in your blood, you don't need it. I know that's easy to say as I too still struggle with triggers where I THINK a dip would relax me. But its simply not true. Dip doesn't do that. All u do is fill your nic urge and the minute you spit that shit out the clock starts ticking again. Not a clock for you to relax again but a fucking time bomb clock til the nic gets your lip loaded up again. You keep feeding the clock thinking your relaxing and rewarding yourself til one day you're fucking teeth are shit black, your gums are shredded, your teeth are all but gone, and you have cancer and fucking die or end up looking like a freak show.
Your a bad ass football coach. What if one of your players was in your head telling you.what to do. You'd be in that kids shit busting his balls til he barfed every day. Don't let a can full of posion leaves lead you around either. I know its gonna be hard but son of a bitch it will be worth it!!!!
Good luck, Coach!
Never underestimate the power of one day of quit. I idolized my high school football coach. I bummed my first dip from him. Looking back on it he might as well have given me a loaded gun and told me Russian roulette was cool. Your doing the right thing, don't hope just do. Quit two days , you can make it three. Infact it is a proven truth that after the third day of quit your penis increases in size by three inches. I swear I'm not lying ask anybody. Prove me wrong , I dare ya.
Sm
Skoal Monster is correct. For the average man it's 3.25", Of course I've never been average, so I got 4". Some stats say that at 100 days you get another 3".
Seriously though, keep tagging your thoughts in here. It'll be nice to take a walk down memory lane some day. It'll also serve as reinforcement when the going gets tough. No hope can get you through. Faith and accountability, 2 factors that make up any good team.
3 inches of girth or length..sure haven't noticed any change yet...beginning to think you guys are fuckin with me, but regardless I'm still nicotine free. And to be honest adding 3 inches would probably cause me to blackout...because that slab is already taking a third of my body's blood to operate. Yeah that's right..he said slab.
Almost made a huge fuckin mistake today...i was thinking about getting some bacc off, but I didn't because I've made it almost 3 days without anything tucked in there...i don't even wanna feel that sensation of packing the can and getting a pinch even though it's that herbal stuff.
Thanks for the kind words guys and support.
Dave
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Day 2 is in the books...finding it hard to stay awake if I sit idle. I just stayed busy today with two-a-days..hot as shit outside. During practice I'll start thinking about the routine like I used to do once I get back in the AC in the coaches office get me a fat one while we discuss the day's practice and plan tomorrow's, but I got my mind off it and keep telling myself that I can't go back to it. Steadfast today..hope for the same tomorrow. Thanks to all you guys that threw some support my way and for quitting with me on the roll.
It means a lot.
Dave
Much respect man. I busted your balls but I know that shit cant be easy. I'm sure you are a hell of a coach. Just remember dip did/does not define you. Dip did not make you a good coach. Hell it could have been holding you back from your max potential.
You were not born with nic in your blood, you don't need it. I know that's easy to say as I too still struggle with triggers where I THINK a dip would relax me. But its simply not true. Dip doesn't do that. All u do is fill your nic urge and the minute you spit that shit out the clock starts ticking again. Not a clock for you to relax again but a fucking time bomb clock til the nic gets your lip loaded up again. You keep feeding the clock thinking your relaxing and rewarding yourself til one day you're fucking teeth are shit black, your gums are shredded, your teeth are all but gone, and you have cancer and fucking die or end up looking like a freak show.
Your a bad ass football coach. What if one of your players was in your head telling you.what to do. You'd be in that kids shit busting his balls til he barfed every day. Don't let a can full of posion leaves lead you around either. I know its gonna be hard but son of a bitch it will be worth it!!!!
Good luck, Coach!
Never underestimate the power of one day of quit. I idolized my high school football coach. I bummed my first dip from him. Looking back on it he might as well have given me a loaded gun and told me Russian roulette was cool. Your doing the right thing, don't hope just do. Quit two days , you can make it three. Infact it is a proven truth that after the third day of quit your penis increases in size by three inches. I swear I'm not lying ask anybody. Prove me wrong , I dare ya.
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Skoal Monster is correct. For the average man it's 3.25", Of course I've never been average, so I got 4". Some stats say that at 100 days you get another 3".
Seriously though, keep tagging your thoughts in here. It'll be nice to take a walk down memory lane some day. It'll also serve as reinforcement when the going gets tough. No hope can get you through. Faith and accountability, 2 factors that make up any good team.
3 inches of girth or length..sure haven't noticed any change yet...beginning to think you guys are fuckin with me, but regardless I'm still nicotine free. And to be honest adding 3 inches would probably cause me to blackout...because that slab is already taking a third of my body's blood to operate. Yeah that's right..he said slab.
Almost made a huge fuckin mistake today...i was thinking about getting some bacc off, but I didn't because I've made it almost 3 days without anything tucked in there...i don't even wanna feel that sensation of packing the can and getting a pinch even though it's that herbal stuff.
Thanks for the kind words guys and support.
Dave
Don't make that mistake Dave...way to fight through it....you've already come a long way. I swear to you the first 3 days are the hardest. Anyone will attest to that. I'm not saying it gets easy, but it gets EASIER. Keep fighting the good fight and keep your shit wired.... You're gonna be a badass quitter!!
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Day 2 is in the books...finding it hard to stay awake if I sit idle. I just stayed busy today with two-a-days..hot as shit outside. During practice I'll start thinking about the routine like I used to do once I get back in the AC in the coaches office get me a fat one while we discuss the day's practice and plan tomorrow's, but I got my mind off it and keep telling myself that I can't go back to it. Steadfast today..hope for the same tomorrow. Thanks to all you guys that threw some support my way and for quitting with me on the roll.
It means a lot.
Dave
Much respect man. I busted your balls but I know that shit cant be easy. I'm sure you are a hell of a coach. Just remember dip did/does not define you. Dip did not make you a good coach. Hell it could have been holding you back from your max potential.
You were not born with nic in your blood, you don't need it. I know that's easy to say as I too still struggle with triggers where I THINK a dip would relax me. But its simply not true. Dip doesn't do that. All u do is fill your nic urge and the minute you spit that shit out the clock starts ticking again. Not a clock for you to relax again but a fucking time bomb clock til the nic gets your lip loaded up again. You keep feeding the clock thinking your relaxing and rewarding yourself til one day you're fucking teeth are shit black, your gums are shredded, your teeth are all but gone, and you have cancer and fucking die or end up looking like a freak show.
Your a bad ass football coach. What if one of your players was in your head telling you.what to do. You'd be in that kids shit busting his balls til he barfed every day. Don't let a can full of posion leaves lead you around either. I know its gonna be hard but son of a bitch it will be worth it!!!!
Good luck, Coach!
Never underestimate the power of one day of quit. I idolized my high school football coach. I bummed my first dip from him. Looking back on it he might as well have given me a loaded gun and told me Russian roulette was cool. Your doing the right thing, don't hope just do. Quit two days , you can make it three. Infact it is a proven truth that after the third day of quit your penis increases in size by three inches. I swear I'm not lying ask anybody. Prove me wrong , I dare ya.
Sm
Skoal Monster is correct. For the average man it's 3.25", Of course I've never been average, so I got 4". Some stats say that at 100 days you get another 3".
Seriously though, keep tagging your thoughts in here. It'll be nice to take a walk down memory lane some day. It'll also serve as reinforcement when the going gets tough. No hope can get you through. Faith and accountability, 2 factors that make up any good team.
3 inches of girth or length..sure haven't noticed any change yet...beginning to think you guys are fuckin with me, but regardless I'm still nicotine free. And to be honest adding 3 inches would probably cause me to blackout...because that slab is already taking a third of my body's blood to operate. Yeah that's right..he said slab.
Almost made a huge fuckin mistake today...i was thinking about getting some bacc off, but I didn't because I've made it almost 3 days without anything tucked in there...i don't even wanna feel that sensation of packing the can and getting a pinch even though it's that herbal stuff.
Thanks for the kind words guys and support.
Dave
Don't make that mistake Dave...way to fight through it....you've already come a long way. I swear to you the first 3 days are the hardest. Anyone will attest to that. I'm not saying it gets easy, but it gets EASIER. Keep fighting the good fight and keep your shit wired.... You're gonna be a badass quitter!!
Congrats coach! keep it up. I quit with you today too! Let's do it again in the morning.
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
It takes a while for the body to settle down and make the adjustments, hang in there.
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
During my first couple of weeks I would take a book to bed and read until I fell asleep. It helped get my mind off of it and I was able to relax. Stay strong, it will get better.
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
During my first couple of weeks I would take a book to bed and read until I fell asleep. It helped get my mind off of it and I was able to relax. Stay strong, it will get better.
Dave,
My first two weeks were absolute hell. I couldn't sleep at night and would fall asleep driving while at work. Angry as a hornet and ready to pounce at the slightest thing. I've come to see that it is all part of the suck. I've seen it written that the harder the original suck, the stronger and more committed the quit. That's what we talk about when we say, "Embrace the suck" , really pull that fucker in, own it, relish in its pain and turmoil. Sadistic, yeah it is, but well worth it when you come out on the other side. I am enjoying life and am seeing my kids and family so much more because I spend no time hiding myself in a far away place with a fucking spit bottle and a pile of cancer in my lip. How fucking selfish and ridiculous was that? What person of high morals, ethics, and integrity would put an inanimate, poisonous carcinogen ahead of their own flesh, blood, and love?
When we look at it how it truly is, not through the rose colored lenses of addiction, we see how an addictive mind set can truly rob us of the lives we work so hard to obtain. I'm here to say, not here, not now, not me.
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
During my first couple of weeks I would take a book to bed and read until I fell asleep. It helped get my mind off of it and I was able to relax. Stay strong, it will get better.
Dave,
My first two weeks were absolute hell. I couldn't sleep at night and would fall asleep driving while at work. Angry as a hornet and ready to pounce at the slightest thing. I've come to see that it is all part of the suck. I've seen it written that the harder the original suck, the stronger and more committed the quit. That's what we talk about when we say, "Embrace the suck" , really pull that fucker in, own it, relish in its pain and turmoil. Sadistic, yeah it is, but well worth it when you come out on the other side. I am enjoying life and am seeing my kids and family so much more because I spend no time hiding myself in a far away place with a fucking spit bottle and a pile of cancer in my lip. How fucking selfish and ridiculous was that? What person of high morals, ethics, and integrity would put an inanimate, poisonous carcinogen ahead of their own flesh, blood, and love?
When we look at it how it truly is, not through the rose colored lenses of addiction, we see how an addictive mind set can truly rob us of the lives we work so hard to obtain. I'm here to say, not here, not now, not me.
Quitting the most addictive substance on the planet takes some work! I did not sleep well for a long time. I took NyQuil or Tylenol PM to help and even then I did not sleep like I did pre quit.
I listened to those before me who constantly told me to "just stay clean" it gets better than you can imagine. So my advice to you is this. Do whatever you must to stay clean, you cannot imagine how good you are going to feel! just remember you dipped for a very long time, you cannot undo a lifetime of dipping in a week.
Freedom is an amazing thing and well worth fighting for!
Congrats on the week! Huge !
STAY QUIT
Greg
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
Your normal sleep pattern will return. I can't say when, but I sleep better now than I ever did when I chewed.
I used to stay up for hours reading or surfing the web just to keep stuffing that crap in my mouth. Now, I crash as soon as I hit the sack. It's great.
Hang in there, it will only get better.
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
Nyquil
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
Nyquil
Out of your system, yes or maybe. Is your body adjusted...Nope.
Your mind and body have to rewire. It is like folding your arms opposite of what you are used to.
It is soooo much better but the adjusting phase is what you are experiencing.
Bravo for making it a week. I'll be honest, I though you were a tobacco humper. You are kicking ass. Just see it to 100 and then look back.
Stay quit and on day 100 look back and you will smile and say, "That hell was worth it. I love being quit and I won't go back to hump that can. NEVER!" Freedom is so worth the price you have to pay right now.
I am 144 Wins and zero Loses since KTC became my coach. I love being undefeated with the nic bitch. I plan to stay undefeated by only worrying about beating my opponent today. I don't care about tomorrow. I must win today so tomorrow I can still remain undefeated.
It sucks. Love every minute of it! I know I sound like a dick. I am one but I am quit and I hope you stay quit. Hate me because I won't accept your surrender to that cat turd.
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
Nyquil
Out of your system, yes or maybe. Is your body adjusted...Nope.
Your mind and body have to rewire. It is like folding your arms opposite of what you are used to.
It is soooo much better but the adjusting phase is what you are experiencing.
Bravo for making it a week. I'll be honest, I though you were a tobacco humper. You are kicking ass. Just see it to 100 and then look back.
Stay quit and on day 100 look back and you will smile and say, "That hell was worth it. I love being quit and I won't go back to hump that can. NEVER!" Freedom is so worth the price you have to pay right now.
I am 144 Wins and zero Loses since KTC became my coach. I love being undefeated with the nic bitch. I plan to stay undefeated by only worrying about beating my opponent today. I don't care about tomorrow. I must win today so tomorrow I can still remain undefeated.
It sucks. Love every minute of it! I know I sound like a dick. I am one but I am quit and I hope you stay quit. Hate me because I won't accept your surrender to that cat turd.
Big Dave.. I feel you Bro.. the following was a post i made on day 8.. In the morning will be day 56.. some nights i now sleep better than ever.. some nights still not so much.. I was up at 3:30 this morning.. It's all in day's quit..
Day 8.. Life of a Quitter.. Bitching like hell!
I need some help today... I thought day 5 was bad! Day 8 was a nightmare! I guess I have been maybe sleeping 3 to 4 hours a night. it's pretty shitty sleep.. even with melatonin and some other sleep aids. Yesterday I had to spend quite a bit of time in my truck driving. I had about a 2 hour road trip, each way.. The entire fucking time I was fighting sleep! I was so sleepy.. I would yell and sing and roll the window down.. roll it up.. stick my head out the window.. the entire trip was a struggle to stay awake.. I knew that if only I had some dip... all this would go away.. well I did not cave! I get home last night.. my girlfriend came over she was suppose to be here at 7.. she was late of course and I let her fucking have it! (she is always late, last night just chapped my ass more than usual).. so we got into pretty much a knock down! This morning after about 3 or 4 hours of shitty sleep I am here.. thinking is it really worth it?? I am getting depressed.. I am very tired.. if i get to the point if I really think I am going to drink over this.. I will dip! If i drink all bets are off for me in life in general! I will be doing much more than dipping. Dip will be the least of my worries if I start drinking again after 9 years.. I need some real experience..strength.. hope today.. not this "be a man horse shit!" I am a fucking man.. I have manned up showed up and fought more days in my life than you can imagine..
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I can't fucking sleep....one week with no nicotine...it should be out of my system right? I just wake up all the time and get restless..i should be asleep right now but I can't. I used to sleep like a machine. Doing that shit like it was my job son.
Nyquil
Out of your system, yes or maybe. Is your body adjusted...Nope.
Your mind and body have to rewire. It is like folding your arms opposite of what you are used to.
It is soooo much better but the adjusting phase is what you are experiencing.
Bravo for making it a week. I'll be honest, I though you were a tobacco humper. You are kicking ass. Just see it to 100 and then look back.
Stay quit and on day 100 look back and you will smile and say, "That hell was worth it. I love being quit and I won't go back to hump that can. NEVER!" Freedom is so worth the price you have to pay right now.
I am 144 Wins and zero Loses since KTC became my coach. I love being undefeated with the nic bitch. I plan to stay undefeated by only worrying about beating my opponent today. I don't care about tomorrow. I must win today so tomorrow I can still remain undefeated.
It sucks. Love every minute of it! I know I sound like a dick. I am one but I am quit and I hope you stay quit. Hate me because I won't accept your surrender to that cat turd.
Big Dave.. I feel you Bro.. the following was a post i made on day 8.. In the morning will be day 56.. some nights i now sleep better than ever.. some nights still not so much.. I was up at 3:30 this morning.. It's all in day's quit..
Day 8.. Life of a Quitter.. Bitching like hell!
I need some help today... I thought day 5 was bad! Day 8 was a nightmare! I guess I have been maybe sleeping 3 to 4 hours a night. it's pretty shitty sleep.. even with melatonin and some other sleep aids. Yesterday I had to spend quite a bit of time in my truck driving. I had about a 2 hour road trip, each way.. The entire fucking time I was fighting sleep! I was so sleepy.. I would yell and sing and roll the window down.. roll it up.. stick my head out the window.. the entire trip was a struggle to stay awake.. I knew that if only I had some dip... all this would go away.. well I did not cave! I get home last night.. my girlfriend came over she was suppose to be here at 7.. she was late of course and I let her fucking have it! (she is always late, last night just chapped my ass more than usual).. so we got into pretty much a knock down! This morning after about 3 or 4 hours of shitty sleep I am here.. thinking is it really worth it?? I am getting depressed.. I am very tired.. if i get to the point if I really think I am going to drink over this.. I will dip! If i drink all bets are off for me in life in general! I will be doing much more than dipping. Dip will be the least of my worries if I start drinking again after 9 years.. I need some real experience..strength.. hope today.. not this "be a man horse shit!" I am a fucking man.. I have manned up showed up and fought more days in my life than you can imagine..
dude....i feel you.....awwwww......the early days.......so important.....now here is some advice you wont hear a lot around here.....but i actually drank more than usual in the early days.....it was not a trigger for me and did not make me weak - but absolutely helped me sleep.........be careful tho - for a lot of guys drinking is a trigger......
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I appreciate all you guys' advice and guidance...i need it everyday. Funny you mentioned alcohol clean fuel because today I smashed 10 beers, played 18 holes and didn't dip. I'm not a big drinker just do it every now and then.
Mike..i appreciate you posting your day 8 story..it's good to see that someone has gone through the same and worse than me and is still going strong.
I tell you guys...i guess I didn't realize how nicotine worked...i always thought of snuff as something little..just a bad habit that could cause gum loss and tooth decay..i always thought the cancer thing was a long shot. I'm amazed at how my body and mind is adjusting to not having it...kinda like Brooks in Shawshank Redemption.
I'm staying quit though..can't go back to the red seal state of mind.
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I appreciate all you guys' advice and guidance...i need it everyday. Funny you mentioned alcohol clean fuel because today I smashed 10 beers, played 18 holes and didn't dip. I'm not a big drinker just do it every now and then.
Mike..i appreciate you posting your day 8 story..it's good to see that someone has gone through the same and worse than me and is still going strong.
I tell you guys...i guess I didn't realize how nicotine worked...i always thought of snuff as something little..just a bad habit that could cause gum loss and tooth decay..i always thought the cancer thing was a long shot. I'm amazed at how my body and mind is adjusting to not having it...kinda like Brooks in Shawshank Redemption.
I'm staying quit though..can't go back to the red seal state of mind.
Thought the same thing bro. I NEVER thought the MENTAL part of the addiction wad so strong. They ought to put that shit on the can!!!! Fuck it though. I am full life living proof that it does get better. I spent the early days of my quit convinced I would never feel "normal" again.
I could not sleep, I cried almost every morning as I drug myself out of bed (yeah I'm a big pussy), I questioned EVERYTHING about my life and if everything I built up over the past 15 yrs was fake and only SEEMED great because of dip. I quit believing in myself. I lost all confidence in who I was and literally felt hopeless.
Well guess what mother fucker's. 63 days later with some help from the Doc and after continuing to live my life day after day and doing shit without dip (and not dyeing)along with support from cats on this site my confidence began to grow and grow and my attitude changed dramatically.
Now I KNOW I can live without dip. I haven't "won" and the battles not over but God Dammit it feels great to go from hopeless to HOPEFULL!
You may not be as bad as me but hang in there man. Things get better. When I first quit I NEVER thought that was true even though peeps told me they would. I'm shooting straight from the hip here, as one of the biggest negative Nancy's ktc has ever seen. Shit will get better!
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I appreciate all you guys' advice and guidance...i need it everyday. Funny you mentioned alcohol clean fuel because today I smashed 10 beers, played 18 holes and didn't dip. I'm not a big drinker just do it every now and then.
Mike..i appreciate you posting your day 8 story..it's good to see that someone has gone through the same and worse than me and is still going strong.
I tell you guys...i guess I didn't realize how nicotine worked...i always thought of snuff as something little..just a bad habit that could cause gum loss and tooth decay..i always thought the cancer thing was a long shot. I'm amazed at how my body and mind is adjusting to not having it...kinda like Brooks in Shawshank Redemption.
I'm staying quit though..can't go back to the red seal state of mind.
Thought the same thing bro. I NEVER thought the MENTAL part of the addiction wad so strong. They ought to put that shit on the can!!!! Fuck it though. I am full life living proof that it does get better. I spent the early days of my quit convinced I would never feel "normal" again.
I could not sleep, I cried almost every morning as I drug myself out of bed (yeah I'm a big pussy), I questioned EVERYTHING about my life and if everything I built up over the past 15 yrs was fake and only SEEMED great because of dip. I quit believing in myself. I lost all confidence in who I was and literally felt hopeless.
Well guess what mother fucker's. 63 days later with some help from the Doc and after continuing to live my life day after day and doing shit without dip (and not dyeing)along with support from cats on this site my confidence began to grow and grow and my attitude changed dramatically.
Now I KNOW I can live without dip. I haven't "won" and the battles not over but God Dammit it feels great to go from hopeless to HOPEFULL!
You may not be as bad as me but hang in there man. Things get better. When I first quit I NEVER thought that was true even though peeps told me they would. I'm shooting straight from the hip here, as one of the biggest negative Nancy's ktc has ever seen. Shit will get better!
Diesel. Great, great read.
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Last night was our first game of the season--first time coaching a game without a dip in my mouth--chewed so much gum my mouth hurts.
Today is 3 weeks with no nicotine. Was craving so bad last night and today. Feel like I cheated. I bought a can of Bacc Off. I don't wanna make that a habit, but I've been wanting to try some fake snuff out, just didn't think I was strong enough during that first week or so to even walk in the tobacco store..because that's the only place I can find that sells the stuff..kinda ironic.
Thanks to all the guys who've been posting support on roll in the November 12 group. I'm quit and it feels great. My family is so supportive of me. Glad to be freed from bondage..however, I know that I'm an addict. Failure is not an option for me..I have so much invested in this 21 days, kids, wife, mother, players, coaches, you guys--can't go back on my word with all that accountability and eyes watching.
Oh yeah...we were up 36-6 at the half..JV played the entire 2nd half and we won 49-26.
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Last night was our first game of the season--first time coaching a game without a dip in my mouth--chewed so much gum my mouth hurts.
Today is 3 weeks with no nicotine. Was craving so bad last night and today. Feel like I cheated. I bought a can of Bacc Off. I don't wanna make that a habit, but I've been wanting to try some fake snuff out, just didn't think I was strong enough during that first week or so to even walk in the tobacco store..because that's the only place I can find that sells the stuff..kinda ironic.
Thanks to all the guys who've been posting support on roll in the November 12 group. I'm quit and it feels great. My family is so supportive of me. Glad to be freed from bondage..however, I know that I'm an addict. Failure is not an option for me..I have so much invested in this 21 days, kids, wife, mother, players, coaches, you guys--can't go back on my word with all that accountability and eyes watching.
Oh yeah...we were up 36-6 at the half..JV played the entire 2nd half and we won 49-26.
Hey BigDave - a little different coaching without it in isn't it???
I went through the same for 2 weekends as I coach baseball and when I decided it was in the middle of tournament season, so 1 of the weekends was a regualr tournament and the other was the states tournament (10 and under).
At the time I had bought the Hooch and Smokey mountain and do not believe I would have made it through with out them. But It was not the nicotene so it was a victory for me, so from what you say a victory for you too.
nice job coach for setting the 'new' example for the players.
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Dave I am very proud to be quit with you! Congrats on winning both the game and the battle you
Are 21-0 and you've done that!
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Great job Bigdave. LOVE hearing positive stories like yours. You are a true bad ass. Keep up the great work and congrats on the W.
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Bigdave...nice job man. Where do you keep the wheelbarrow you use to carry your balls around in? Do you take it everywhere with you? I guess you have to... What a hassle!!! HAHAHAAHA... Your quit is fuckin badass man and I love it. You inspire me everyday. Thanks for the inspiration and thanks for keeping your word everyday. I know it isn't always easy but you make it seem that way.
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Bigdave...nice job man. Where do you keep the wheelbarrow you use to carry your balls around in? Do you take it everywhere with you? I guess you have to... What a hassle!!! HAHAHAAHA... Your quit is fuckin badass man and I love it. You inspire me everyday. Thanks for the inspiration and thanks for keeping your word everyday. I know it isn't always easy but you make it seem that way.
My nuts ride shotgun son! Kidding aside...thanks Morgan and WT you guys are people I look up to around here and are an encouragement to me. SirDerek..coaching is a lot different, but so is life in general...so be it. I may have to do like you did..put that smokey mountain in.
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Now I KNOW I can live without dip. I haven't "won" and the battles not over but God Dammit it feels great to go from hopeless to HOPEFULL!
beeyootiful words man.......
Feeling hopeless sucks. KTC brings hope.
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Hit day 60 today. Been real busy with football lately. Haven't had time to do anything on here except to post roll. No looking back for me..pressing on. I carry my condoms in a big ass sack..slingin this dick like a new jack.
Gents...keep your cocks to the grindstone