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Title: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 18, 2014, 09:53:00 PM
hi everybody. its been 12 hours since my last chew and i decided today to quit dipping, but also nicotine entirely.
I started chewing when i was 25. i had plenty of chances to start smoking, even dated a couple girls that smoked,
but never started up the habit. then i made a couple of friends that dipped, started working with people that dipped,
and played balls with people that dipped. and before ya know it, one day i asked a good friend for a chew, got really
dizzy and lightheaded. that was the start. just one chew. i chewed a can and a half a day for 6.5 years. mostly skoal but
really anything.

i am married with a child on the way. my wife does nothing in the way of substance abuse. my father in law has been addicted
to nicotine for 45 years. i knew he was addicted to nicotine before i started, my wife warned me about it. so i found this site back in the
summer and made a comment about one of my many attempts, and of course failed half a day later. Then, on the cusp of a dentist appt, october 12,
i started perusing all the suptopics and found a great thread that was very inspiring"what to expect when you quit dipping" posting comments
with those guys, deepydeedont jeff and jayp. they helped and inspired me to quit nicotine in all forms for 36 days. i conquered alot of triggers,work,
softball, video games. But- i was consciously avoiding the bar, having only gone once since the 12th and had one beer. i had alot more last night, and
yeah i smoked a cigarette.bought a can of chew. Woke up this morning and puffed a couple off of this guys cig at work. around 10am i went into chat and
a couple of the guys convinced me to toss the can. so here i am.

this addiction has caused me alot of bullshit with the wife and finances and anxiety over my health.(had to go to doctors over summer because of strange lump in neck, which i of course thought was cancer). thats just scratching the surface, really. Its been a total mind game ever since she caught me 2 years ago and showed me mouth cancer pictures. now thats all i think about. im so done with this shit. but i need some help. i do not want to be a tobacco user anymore im so better than that.
quit date 11-18-14
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: soxfnnlansing on November 18, 2014, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
hi everybody. its been 12 hours since my last chew and i decided today to quit dipping, but also nicotine entirely.
I started chewing when i was 25. i had plenty of chances to start smoking, even dated a couple girls that smoked,
but never started up the habit. then i made a couple of friends that dipped, started working with people that dipped,
and played balls with people that dipped. and before ya know it, one day i asked a good friend for a chew, got really
dizzy and lightheaded. that was the start. just one chew. i chewed a can and a half a day for 6.5 years. mostly skoal but
really anything.

i am married with a child on the way. my wife does nothing in the way of substance abuse. my father in law has been addicted
to nicotine for 45 years. i knew he was addicted to nicotine before i started, my wife warned me about it. so i found this site back in the
summer and made a comment about one of my many attempts, and of course failed half a day later. Then, on the cusp of a dentist appt, october 12,
i started perusing all the suptopics and found a great thread that was very inspiring"what to expect when you quit dipping" posting comments
with those guys, deepydeedont jeff and jayp. they helped and inspired me to quit nicotine in all forms for 36 days. i conquered alot of triggers,work,
softball, video games. But- i was consciously avoiding the bar, having only gone once since the 12th and had one beer. i had alot more last night, and
yeah i smoked a cigarette.bought a can of chew. Woke up this morning and puffed a couple off of this guys cig at work. around 10am i went into chat and
a couple of the guys convinced me to toss the can. so here i am.

this addiction has caused me alot of bullshit with the wife and finances and anxiety over my health.(had to go to doctors over summer because of strange lump in neck, which i of course thought was cancer). thats just scratching the surface, really. Its been a total mind game ever since she caught me 2 years ago and showed me mouth cancer pictures. now thats all i think about. im so done with this shit. but i need some help. i do not want to be a tobacco user anymore im so better than that.
quit date 11-18-14

I quit with you brother
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Wt57 on November 19, 2014, 12:32:00 AM
Quote from: soxfnnlansing
Quote from: Vinmoore83
hi everybody. its been 12 hours since my last chew and i decided today to quit dipping, but also nicotine entirely.
I started chewing when i was 25. i had plenty of chances to start smoking, even dated a couple girls that smoked,
but never started up the habit. then i made a couple of friends that dipped, started working with people that dipped,
and played balls with people that dipped. and before ya know it, one day i asked a good friend for a chew, got really
dizzy and lightheaded. that was the start. just one chew. i chewed a can and a half a day for 6.5 years. mostly skoal but
really anything.

i am married with a child on the way. my wife does nothing in the way of substance abuse. my father in law has been addicted
to nicotine for 45 years. i knew he was addicted to nicotine before i started, my wife warned me about it. so i found this site back in the
summer and made a comment about one of my many attempts, and of course failed half a day later. Then, on the cusp of a dentist appt, october 12,
i started perusing all the suptopics and found a great thread that was very inspiring"what to expect when you quit dipping" posting comments
with those guys, deepydeedont jeff and jayp. they helped and inspired me to quit nicotine in all forms for 36 days. i conquered alot of triggers,work,
softball, video games. But- i was consciously avoiding the bar, having only gone once since the 12th and had one beer. i had alot more last night, and
yeah i smoked a cigarette.bought a can of chew. Woke up this morning and puffed a couple off of this guys cig at work. around 10am i went into chat and
a couple of the guys convinced me to toss the can. so here i am.

this addiction has caused me alot of bullshit with the wife and finances and anxiety over my health.(had to go to doctors over summer because of strange lump in neck, which i of course thought was cancer). thats just scratching the surface, really. Its been a total mind game ever since she caught me 2 years ago and showed me mouth cancer pictures. now thats all i think about. im so done with this shit. but i need some help. i do not want to be a tobacco user anymore im so better than that.
quit date 11-18-14

I quit with you brother
You gave us a great introduction and hit a lot of good points but your reason to quit is still a little weak. Take your life back by quitting nicotine everyday. The pictures and disappointed family won't be a lasting motivation. If quitting is what you want, do everything you can to be successful; commit to yourself, post roll daily and promise your group and this brotherhood, avoid those triggers that weaken your willpower. The ball is in your court, let's see what you have.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: slug.go on November 19, 2014, 09:35:00 AM
Posted Day 2 this morning, therefore nicotine is off the table today because you have given us your word that you wonÂ’t use today. Damn proud of you! Keep it rolling!!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: MN_Ben on November 19, 2014, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: slug.go
Posted Day 2 this morning, therefore nicotine is off the table today because you have given us your word that you wonÂ’t use today. Damn proud of you! Keep it rolling!!
Indeed.. Good job vin, and way to dive in and sign up and start posting your promise to us
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 19, 2014, 12:33:00 PM
Thanks guys for the kick in the ass
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: jonnyg on November 19, 2014, 12:52:00 PM
Quit on brother. I quit with you. Never walk alone.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 19, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
Thanks guys for the kick in the ass
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Thumblewort on November 19, 2014, 01:55:00 PM
Kicking quitters in the ass is what we do. Stay strong for the next couple of days because it does get easier.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Candoit on November 19, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
Great to have you here! Keep posting, keep reading, and keep your promise!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: 30isEnuff on November 19, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: soxfnnlansing
Quote from: Vinmoore83
hi everybody. its been 12 hours since my last chew and i decided today to quit dipping, but also nicotine entirely.
I started chewing when i was 25. i had plenty of chances to start smoking, even dated a couple girls that smoked,
but never started up the habit. then i made a couple of friends that dipped, started working with people that dipped,
and played balls with people that dipped. and before ya know it, one day i asked a good friend for a chew, got really
dizzy and lightheaded. that was the start. just one chew. i chewed a can and a half a day for 6.5 years. mostly skoal but
really anything.

i am married with a child on the way. my wife does nothing in the way of substance abuse. my father in law has been addicted
to nicotine for 45 years. i knew he was addicted to nicotine before i started, my wife warned me about it. so i found this site back in the
summer and made a comment about one of my many attempts, and of course failed half a day later. Then, on the cusp of a dentist appt, october 12,
i started perusing all the suptopics and found a great thread that was very inspiring"what to expect when you quit dipping" posting comments
with those guys, deepydeedont jeff and jayp. they helped and inspired me to quit nicotine in all forms for 36 days. i conquered alot of triggers,work,
softball, video games. But- i was consciously avoiding the bar, having only gone once since the 12th and had one beer. i had alot more last night, and
yeah i smoked a cigarette.bought a can of chew. Woke up this morning and puffed a couple off of this guys cig at work. around 10am i went into chat and
a couple of the guys convinced me to toss the can. so here i am.

this addiction has caused me alot of bullshit with the wife and finances and anxiety over my health.(had to go to doctors over summer because of strange lump in neck, which i of course thought was cancer). thats just scratching the surface, really. Its been a total mind game ever since she caught me 2 years ago and showed me mouth cancer pictures. now thats all i think about. im so done with this shit. but i need some help. i do not want to be a tobacco user anymore im so better than that.
quit date 11-18-14

I quit with you brother
You gave us a great introduction and hit a lot of good points but your reason to quit is still a little weak. Take your life back by quitting nicotine everyday. The pictures and disappointed family won't be a lasting motivation. If quitting is what you want, do everything you can to be successful; commit to yourself, post roll daily and promise your group and this brotherhood, avoid those triggers that weaken your willpower. The ball is in your court, let's see what you have.
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems. Who the hell needs more problems?
You quit Today. Awesome! You made WT57 happy! follow all the quitters in your intro and you too will "be quit".
Do this ODAAT for You! You're worth it. No matter what the voices in your head are saying.
No nic for YOU Today! NAFAR!
WElcome to the best of your life.
post roll
honor your word
wake and repeat
I did it 909 times in a row. YOU can TOO, I promise.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 19, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
So I'm getting close to 36 hours. I have enough energy to run through the wall and feel like crawling up the wall at the same time. I feel great about my decision though. I started to realize over the last 2 years and especially the last 6 months that if I didn't stop soon I'm sorry quit soon that I might never quit and that this would just go on forever and ever. So I had these crazy thoughts of wanting to quit while I continued to stuff stole in my face.(Skoal). I also feel it affected my self image. A respectablevperson does not use tobacco. I want to become respectable again. Thenks for the help.I'm chewing a lot of smokey mountain.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Thumblewort on November 20, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
So I'm getting close to 36 hours. I have enough energy to run through the wall and feel like crawling up the wall at the same time. I feel great about my decision though. I started to realize over the last 2 years and especially the last 6 months that if I didn't stop soon I'm sorry quit soon that I might never quit and that this would just go on forever and ever. So I had these crazy thoughts of wanting to quit while I continued to stuff stole in my face.(Skoal). I also feel it affected my self image. A respectablevperson does not use tobacco. I want to become respectable again. Thenks for the help.I'm chewing a lot of smokey mountain.
36 hours is bad ass! And crawling up walls means you are healing! Hang tough, and get in hear if you need to yell and scream.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 21, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
is this the right place to say I had a bad day today I thought about dipping all f****** day it just would not leave me I went for a jog when I got home and then a sprint and that seemed to help . I fuckin hate tobacco.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Thumblewort on November 21, 2014, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
is this the right place to say I had a bad day today I thought about dipping all f****** day it just would not leave me I went for a jog when I got home and then a sprint and that seemed to help . I fuckin hate tobacco.
It's the right place to rant and rage, as long as you are quit you can say what you want. Let it it out bro.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Raider on November 21, 2014, 05:03:00 PM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: Vinmoore83
is this the right place to say I had a bad day today I thought about dipping all f****** day it just would not leave me I went for a jog when I got home and then a sprint and that seemed to help . I fuckin hate tobacco.
It's the right place to rant and rage, as long as you are quit you can say what you want. Let it it out bro.
Chat is great for rage too. You did good if you got thru it without packing one in. Keep on quitting.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 21, 2014, 05:20:00 PM
thanks dude today was day 4 for meI don't have as much of the crazy nervous energy that I had before but the thought has been on my mind a lotI think I had a positive influence on some people at work today though .everybody I work with either smokes or chews tobacco and I think they are surprised that I havenot giving in. I stopped for awhile before my day 1 here. When I came in with can the Tuesday morning they were like "see told you so we knew you'd start again". I be been clean since I tossed that shit at 10am that day. I really just want to show them that it's possible to kick this joint Sorry junk. They are all under the impression that you do it forever Cuz that's what their friends dads and relatives all did. I want to be that guiding light that says it possible to quit. I said this before - I'd been trying to "stop" for 2 years. I've been QUIT for 4 days. Yeah!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Derk40 on November 21, 2014, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
thanks dude today was day 4 for meI don't have as much of the crazy nervous energy that I had before but the thought has been on my mind a lotI think I had a positive influence on some people at work today though .everybody I work with either smokes or chews tobacco and I think they are surprised that I havenot giving in. I stopped for awhile before my day 1 here. When I came in with can the Tuesday morning they were like "see told you so we knew you'd start again". I be been clean since I tossed that shit at 10am that day. I really just want to show them that it's possible to kick this joint Sorry junk. They are all under the impression that you do it forever Cuz that's what their friends dads and relatives all did. I want to be that guiding light that says it possible to quit. I said this before - I'd been trying to "stop" for 2 years. I've been QUIT for 4 days. Yeah!
4 days is bada$$! Well done. This is about you today. Stay focused on beating nicotine to the curb today. You can do it. I'm quit with you today.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 23, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
it's really amazes me how this stuff pokes at you sometimes. I was at a kids birthday party yesterday and had a great time there were no tobacco users there so I knew I wasn't going to have any issues or so I thought. As they are opening the presents the parents of the kid pushes this big box towards me which ends up being one of those cars that you push kids around in. And it needs put together and wouldn't you know that created a large craving in my mind for that s*** in a can. I actually had to go outside and breathe in the cold air and remind myself why I am doing all this. And son of a bitch the car got put together Without a dip in. I felt really good about it afterwards. I guess its about the little battles in this fight. Day 6!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: worktowin on November 23, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
it's really amazes me how this stuff pokes at you sometimes. I was at a kids birthday party yesterday and had a great time there were no tobacco users there so I knew I wasn't going to have any issues or so I thought. As they are opening the presents the parents of the kid pushes this big box towards me which ends up being one of those cars that you push kids around in. And it needs put together and wouldn't you know that created a large craving in my mind for that s*** in a can. I actually had to go outside and breathe in the cold air and remind myself why I am doing all this. And son of a bitch the car got put together Without a dip in. I felt really good about it afterwards. I guess its about the little battles in this fight. Day 6!
Pretty amazing what this stuff does to your mind. Putting together a kids toy = good reason to put a carcinogous plant in your mouth? Kinda crazy isn't it? Nocotine is as addictive as heroin. A can has as much nicotine as 3 packs of smokes... So you are gonna have done bumps along the way. But... Doesn't it feel good on a basal level to see those guys at work and know that you are winning at something they are losing at? Day after day after day? Something you slso list at, but which you are now winning?

The struggle gets easier. The sense of success grows. And freedom becomes sweet... One day at a time. Glad you are here. If you need another phone number send me a pm.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Derk40 on November 23, 2014, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Vinmoore83
it's really amazes me how this stuff pokes at you sometimes. I was at a kids birthday party yesterday and had a great time there were no tobacco users there so I knew I wasn't going to have any issues or so I thought. As they are opening the presents the parents of the kid pushes this big box towards me which ends up being one of those cars that you push kids around in. And it needs put together and wouldn't you know that created a large craving in my mind for that s*** in a can. I actually had to go outside and breathe in the cold air and remind myself why I am doing all this. And son of a bitch the car got put together Without a dip in. I felt really good about it afterwards. I guess its about the little battles in this fight. Day 6!
Pretty amazing what this stuff does to your mind. Putting together a kids toy = good reason to put a carcinogous plant in your mouth? Kinda crazy isn't it? Nocotine is as addictive as heroin. A can has as much nicotine as 3 packs of smokes... So you are gonna have done bumps along the way. But... Doesn't it feel good on a basal level to see those guys at work and know that you are winning at something they are losing at? Day after day after day? Something you slso list at, but which you are now winning?

The struggle gets easier. The sense of success grows. And freedom becomes sweet... One day at a time. Glad you are here. If you need another phone number send me a pm.
Nice win! Way to regroup and hold the quit. Thee heavy craves hit you out of nowhere sometimes. You just proved to yourself you could knock it down. Keep at it today!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 23, 2014, 03:15:00 PM
thanks guys I know this is the right thing for me. Something about this quit has been troubling me though and it is this I have been able to stop many times before but there is one thing that always makes me come back to it and that is playing softball now fortunately I just quit playing about a month ago and that kind of coincided with this whole thing but it does concern me because it is 4 months away I am hoping that by then I will have built up enough numbers and tools in my toolbox to combat the cravings because I know that they will be there. I suppose the answer to this is one day at a time because I really want to be done with this s*** . I'm tired of a can controlling when I can hang out with my family and how long I can do so. Yesterday was awesome because I could stay at the party for as long as I wanted to without the irritability really coming in and forcing the to leave to grab a fix. As I said it was a great feeling. I'm not going to lie though I was foggy as hell!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 23, 2014, 03:32:00 PM
You kno what screw that! I'll kick Nicotines ass when I hit the diamond in April! I feel like I was just rationalizing using tobacco when I started playing softball again and therefore maybe I should just have one today well that isn't going to happen and I am NOT going to let my mind go down those paths again. Holy s*** the thoughts come fast sometimes I'm really glad I have this website to fall back on. Ok enough rambling
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: worktowin on November 23, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
thanks guys I know this is the right thing for me. Something about this quit has been troubling me though and it is this I have been able to stop many times before but there is one thing that always makes me come back to it and that is playing softball now fortunately I just quit playing about a month ago and that kind of coincided with this whole thing but it does concern me because it is 4 months away I am hoping that by then I will have built up enough numbers and tools in my toolbox to combat the cravings because I know that they will be there. I suppose the answer to this is one day at a time because I really want to be done with this s*** . I'm tired of a can controlling when I can hang out with my family and how long I can do so. Yesterday was awesome because I could stay at the party for as long as I wanted to without the irritability really coming in and forcing the to leave to grab a fix. As I said it was a great feeling. I'm not going to lie though I was foggy as hell!
Softball is still fun without nicotine. Your brain is gonna get more oxygen and your limbs are gonna benefit from better blood flow, so you can hit more out of the park.

What you are going through now sucks..one day at a time freedom will be yours. The next softball is a long ways away. You have a lot of days of winning between now and then. Enjoy them one day at a time.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Thumblewort on November 23, 2014, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Vinmoore83
thanks guys I know this is the right thing for me. Something about this quit has been troubling me though and it is this I have been able to stop many times before but there is one thing that always makes me come back to it and that is playing softball now fortunately I just quit playing about a month ago and that kind of coincided with this whole thing but it does concern me because it is 4 months away I am hoping that by then I will have built up enough numbers and tools in my toolbox to combat the cravings because I know that they will be there. I suppose the answer to this is one day at a time because I really want to be done with this s*** . I'm tired of a can controlling when I can hang out with my family and how long I can do so. Yesterday was awesome because I could stay at the party for as long as I wanted to without the irritability really coming in and forcing the to leave to grab a fix. As I said it was a great feeling. I'm not going to lie though I was foggy as hell!
Softball is still fun without nicotine. Your brain is gonna get more oxygen and your limbs are gonna benefit from better blood flow, so you can hit more out of the park.

What you are going through now sucks..one day at a time freedom will be yours. The next softball is a long ways away. You have a lot of days of winning between now and then. Enjoy them one day at a time.
I never thought I could be the best double bogey golfer in the world without Skoal. I was wrong, I can double bogey from the white tees all day long without dip!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: worktowin on November 23, 2014, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Vinmoore83
thanks guys I know this is the right thing for me. Something about this quit has been troubling me though and it is this I have been able to stop many times before but there is one thing that always makes me come back to it and that is playing softball now fortunately I just quit playing about a month ago and that kind of coincided with this whole thing but it does concern me because it is 4 months away I am hoping that by then I will have built up enough numbers and tools in my toolbox to combat the cravings because I know that they will be there. I suppose the answer to this is one day at a time because I really want to be done with this s*** . I'm tired of a can controlling when I can hang out with my family and how long I can do so. Yesterday was awesome because I could stay at the party for as long as I wanted to without the irritability really coming in and forcing the to leave to grab a fix. As I said it was a great feeling. I'm not going to lie though I was foggy as hell!
Softball is still fun without nicotine. Your brain is gonna get more oxygen and your limbs are gonna benefit from better blood flow, so you can hit more out of the park.

What you are going through now sucks..one day at a time freedom will be yours. The next softball is a long ways away. You have a lot of days of winning between now and then. Enjoy them one day at a time.
I never thought I could be the best double bogey golfer in the world without Skoal. I was wrong, I can double bogey from the white tees all day long without dip!
By the way... I missed your reference to the fog!

That fog is straight up bullshit! Here's the part that blows my mind... It is your brain trying to rewire to getting the amount of oxygen it is supposed to get!!! It will pass. Keep writing in your intro about what you are experiencing, because as life gets great it is good to look back at what nicotine put you through. And remember, this fog is a one time deal... You'll never have to relive this again, because you are quit!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 23, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
just curious. How does chewing tobacco affect the amount of oxygen going to your brain? I could understand with smoking but it's weird to think about with dipping. I do believe you I'm just curious on the answer Thanks and thanks for the comments they sure do help!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Thumblewort on November 23, 2014, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
just curious. How does chewing tobacco affect the amount of oxygen going to your brain? I could understand with smoking but it's weird to think about with dipping. I do believe you I'm just curious on the answer Thanks and thanks for the comments they sure do help!
I don't know the chemistry behind it, all I know is that after a couple of weeks my vision seemed to improve, and I had quite a few euphoric moments.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: worktowin on November 23, 2014, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: Vinmoore83
just curious. How does chewing tobacco affect the amount of oxygen going to your brain? I could understand with smoking but it's weird to think about with dipping. I do believe you I'm just curious on the answer Thanks and thanks for the comments they sure do help!
I don't know the chemistry behind it, all I know is that after a couple of weeks my vision seemed to improve, and I had quite a few euphoric moments.
Same. Not a doctor here. But I've seen lots of references to it on this site and can attest that my blood O2 levels are way higher. I speculate thst it has something to do with blood vessel restriction, which also results in high blood pressure.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: 30isEnuff on November 23, 2014, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: Vinmoore83
just curious. How does chewing tobacco affect the amount of oxygen going to your brain? I could understand with smoking but it's weird to think about with dipping. I do believe you I'm just curious on the answer Thanks and thanks for the comments they sure do help!
I don't know the chemistry behind it, all I know is that after a couple of weeks my vision seemed to improve, and I had quite a few euphoric moments.
Same. Not a doctor here. But I've seen lots of references to it on this site and can attest that my blood O2 levels are way higher. I speculate thst it has something to do with blood vessel restriction, which also results in high blood pressure.
VinMoore, take this quit as serious as you can. This is your life, jaw, the only body you get. You don't need the poison to survive. You need to quit to live longer and live your life as it was meant to be lived.
Drink the koolaid of quit:
post roll
honor your word
wake and repeat
This has worked for me 913 days in a row. If I can do this, then YOU can TOO.
ODAAT and NAFAR (one day at a time and Never again for any reason)
Read everything in here twice. Make some quit friends and learn all you can about the "poison".
Welcome to the best days of your life. You'll never regret "being quit". Noone feels the surgeons knife except for the patient. Don't be a patient, be a quitter today!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Derk40 on November 23, 2014, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Vinmoore83
thanks guys I know this is the right thing for me. Something about this quit has been troubling me though and it is this I have been able to stop many times before but there is one thing that always makes me come back to it and that is playing softball now fortunately I just quit playing about a month ago and that kind of coincided with this whole thing but it does concern me because it is 4 months away I am hoping that by then I will have built up enough numbers and tools in my toolbox to combat the cravings because I know that they will be there. I suppose the answer to this is one day at a time because I really want to be done with this s*** . I'm tired of a can controlling when I can hang out with my family and how long I can do so. Yesterday was awesome because I could stay at the party for as long as I wanted to without the irritability really coming in and forcing the to leave to grab a fix. As I said it was a great feeling. I'm not going to lie though I was foggy as hell!
Softball is still fun without nicotine. Your brain is gonna get more oxygen and your limbs are gonna benefit from better blood flow, so you can hit more out of the park.

What you are going through now sucks..one day at a time freedom will be yours. The next softball is a long ways away. You have a lot of days of winning between now and then. Enjoy them one day at a time.
This is something that is 4 months away!!! Let's not worry about this now. We can cross that bridge when we get to it. ODAAT... means just that - worry about today. If we worry about the past, the future - we miss what is sitting right here before us. Forget about it. Today is all that counts!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 25, 2014, 08:38:00 PM
man I had a close call today fellas. As I've said before everybody I work with uses tobacco in one form or another. It was a really f****** busy day at work today just the usual nonstop one thing after the other and wouldn't you know it the fella next to me pulls out a fresh can and cracks it.and that's when the rationalization began in my head. Already felt really freaking foggy it's really busy I used to always dip at work and it felt natural to ask him for one.I told the same guy last week that I quitand I am NOT going to go back on my word.and then I thought about everybody here working hard going through the same s*** that I'm going throughand I can't let them down. so just shook it off and went back to work.
For a second I forgot how much it really sucked to be addicted to chew. the constant need to always have it. Always looking forward to using it. Having to chew more because I was depressed about life and whatever I was dealing with. Looking at my monthly statement and seeing 30 charges for $2.19. Having to hide from my wife and family because tobacco is looked down upon . And finally having to chew more because I WAS chewing more. More more more more. Throwing chew into a bottomless pit.
It fuckin sucked!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Thumblewort on November 25, 2014, 08:44:00 PM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
man I had a close call today fellas. As I've said before everybody I work with uses tobacco in one form or another. It was a really f****** busy day at work today just the usual nonstop one thing after the other and wouldn't you know it the fella next to me pulls out a fresh can and cracks it.and that's when the rationalization began in my head. Already felt really freaking foggy it's really busy I used to always dip at work and it felt natural to ask him for one.I told the same guy last week that I quitand I am NOT going to go back on my word.and then I thought about everybody here working hard going through the same s*** that I'm going throughand I can't let them down. so just shook it off and went back to work.
For a second I forgot how much it really sucked to be addicted to chew. the constant need to always have it. Always looking forward to using it. Having to chew more because I was depressed about life and whatever I was dealing with. Looking at my monthly statement and seeing 30 charges for $2.19. Having to hide from my wife and family because tobacco is looked down upon . And finally having to chew more because I WAS chewing more. More more more more. Throwing chew into a bottomless pit.
It fuckin sucked!
It didn't suck, you kicked the nic bitch in the tits and won. You are my hero today because you manned up and won.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Scowick65 on November 26, 2014, 12:35:00 PM
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Quote from: Vinmoore83
man I had a close call today fellas. As I've said before everybody I work with uses tobacco in one form or another. It was a really f****** busy day at work today just the usual nonstop one thing after the other and wouldn't you know it the fella next to me pulls out a fresh can and cracks it.and that's when the rationalization began in my head. Already felt really freaking foggy it's really busy I used to always dip at work and it felt natural to ask him for one.I told the same guy last week that I quitand I am NOT going to go back on my word.and then I thought about everybody here working hard going through the same s*** that I'm going throughand I can't let them down. so just shook it off and went back to work.
For a second I forgot how much it really sucked to be addicted to chew. the constant need to always have it. Always looking forward to using it. Having to chew more because I was depressed about life and whatever I was dealing with. Looking at my monthly statement and seeing 30 charges for $2.19. Having to hide from my wife and family because tobacco is looked down upon . And finally having to chew more because I WAS chewing more. More more more more. Throwing chew into a bottomless pit.
It fuckin sucked!
It didn't suck, you kicked the nic bitch in the tits and won. You are my hero today because you manned up and won.
...a new way of living. a better way of living. Way to piss of the nic bitch.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on November 26, 2014, 08:54:00 PM
I just read your Hall of Fame speech Scowick. there has been many times in the last 2 years that I felt like a unique special butterfly. Perhaps because nicotine is so addictive that at times it seems or seemed impossible to get away from. I have felt like a butterfly at times but today I feel like a man because I kicked that f****** bitch in the nuts.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on December 05, 2014, 05:41:00 PM
I got a big night guys. My first trip to a bar since my last night of nicotine use. My band I s playing a show otherwise I would not be going given my track record. I am going to stay strong and stay away from the alcohol I promise that. But I know there will be tons of tobacco use theiR and I'm just going to grind through it. I made my promise no nicotine...I will keep that promise I just kno its gonna suck for a couple hours.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: worktowin on December 05, 2014, 08:16:00 PM
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I got a big night guys. My first trip to a bar since my last night of nicotine use. My band I s playing a show otherwise I would not be going given my track record. I am going to stay strong and stay away from the alcohol I promise that. But I know there will be tons of tobacco use theiR and I'm just going to grind through it. I made my promise no nicotine...I will keep that promise I just kno its gonna suck for a couple hours.
You will have a great night. Bands don't sound better with nicotine. Nothing is better with nicotine.

Enjoy your night, and enjoy another night of winning. You lost for years, tonight is a win.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: worktowin on December 24, 2014, 06:05:00 PM
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is this the right place to say I had a bad day today I thought about dipping all f****** day it just would not leave me I went for a jog when I got home and then a sprint and that seemed to help . I fuckin hate tobacco.
It's the right place to rant and rage, as long as you are quit you can say what you want. Let it it out bro.
This is the best gift you have ever given yourself and your family.

Merry Christmas! Tomorrow I hope you take a minute to pause and savor the freedom that you are earning one day at a time.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on January 22, 2015, 07:23:00 AM
it's been a while since I posted in my introduction. I went in to "my store" for the first time since sometime in October. when I walk in the fellow behind the counter asked me if I want A can of Skoal. He remembered me!!!Rather than reach across the counter and pull his throat out I simply said No thank you just the gum. I half expected to hear trumpets play or to see the clouds part and somebody throw a big partybut nothing happened.before I quit I probably bought a thousand cans there. No more. I quit today.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: canless2014 on January 22, 2015, 07:49:00 AM
Nice job Vinmoore. I remember when I did the same — I bought a juice and the woman behind the counter said, "Nothing else?" It was probably me being delusional but I could have sworn there was some surprise in her voice. Either way, it felt good to say no and get out.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: LA Kevin on January 22, 2015, 12:25:00 PM
Ha. Yeah, my first four or five post-quit visits to the 7-11 near my house, the little Indian dude would move out of the way so I could see the Skoal display and make my selection. I used to switch up my flavors a little bit and he always seemed low on his supply so I'd eyeball the display and say "OK, give me a Skoal Peach/Mint/Cherry/Wintergreen" etc.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: worktowin on February 25, 2015, 05:35:00 AM
Welcome to a great day - HOF! Been watching you post a lot in the intros and have watched you help a lot of others fight the fight. Well done! Today sit back, enjoy (from the sounds of your HOF speech Mrs V is gonna help with this) and take just a minute to look back at your first week. You will never have to relive that again! Greatness is ahead one day at a time - and the milestones keep getting better!

Congratulations amd thank you!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: KennyZ on February 25, 2015, 05:49:00 AM
Welcome to the train! Thank you for helping me quit!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: pab1964 on February 25, 2015, 07:48:00 AM
100 proud day's! Welcome, hope the ride wasn't to rough! Congrats and keep helping others make your quit stronger!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on February 25, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
Thanks so much guys 100 days ago today I tossed tobacco out of my life. I'm privileged to fight this fight along side of you guys each and every day. Thank you for your kind and encouraging words they mean so much. Quit on!!!!!!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Chargers on February 26, 2015, 09:21:00 PM
I just finished reading this thread. Great job buddy. Keep up the good fight!
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on March 12, 2015, 09:19:00 AM
Had a dip dream last night. I walked up to the store i used yo always go to right up the street. I bought a can (Kodiak) and stuffed it in my lip. Felt really guilty and mad but part of me felt good too.I'm done with this shit! Why's it in my dreams! When I woke up I felt guilty and kind of ashamed that I even dreamnt about. I've been in a shit mood all morning. I guess I just wanted to come in here and throw out all that garbage. it just pisses me off because after a hundred and fifteen days this s*** is still affecting me. arrggghhh! 'bang head'
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: worktowin on March 12, 2015, 01:28:00 PM
Quote from: Vinmoore83
Had a dip dream last night. I walked up to the store i used yo always go to right up the street. I bought a can (Kodiak) and stuffed it in my lip. Felt really guilty and mad but part of me felt good too.I'm done with this shit! Why's it in my dreams! When I woke up I felt guilty and kind of ashamed that I even dreamnt about. I've been in a shit mood all morning. I guess I just wanted to come in here and throw out all that garbage. it just pisses me off because after a hundred and fifteen days this s*** is still affecting me. arrggghhh! 'bang head'
Those dreams are excellent reminders that you are winning.
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: pab1964 on March 12, 2015, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Vinmoore83
Had a dip dream last night. I walked up to the store i used yo always go to right up the street. I bought a can (Kodiak) and stuffed it in my lip. Felt really guilty and mad but part of me felt good too.I'm done with this shit! Why's it in my dreams! When I woke up I felt guilty and kind of ashamed that I even dreamnt about. I've been in a shit mood all morning. I guess I just wanted to come in here and throw out all that garbage. it just pisses me off because after a hundred and fifteen days this s*** is still affecting me. arrggghhh! 'bang head'
Those dreams are excellent reminders that you are winning.
Remember brother she's not dead and will always be raring her ugly ass head when we least expect it. 1,50 or 5000 she don't discriminate, put what you've learned from all your brothers and sisters here to use and never give the bitch an inch! Damn proud to be quit with you my brother! Laugh at the whore it helps
Title: Re: ready to move on
Post by: Vinmoore83 on March 13, 2015, 08:52:00 AM
Thanks fellas. This experience Has been up and down. Yesterdays was definetly down. But I didn't give in and feel much better today! Sometimes its hard to tell if I'm in a "nic" funk or a "life" funk. Its easy to use nic as an excuse for feeling shitty but I'm doing my best to own that. I did this to myself. Kicking ass today day 116!