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Title: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 09, 2014, 11:18:00 AM
I decided to quit this morning 6/9/14. I have actually been thinking about it for a while. I quit smoking a little over a year ago. I really only smoked when I drank, and it honestly didn't hurt that bad. I have been dipping now for 17 years. I quit a few years ago, but started back during hunting season. I usually go through a can a day. I get one in the morning, and don't take it out until lunch. I put one in as soon as I'm done with lunch, and then put one in on the ride home from work. I have a 19 month old baby girl and another one due in September. I have seen what cancer has done to some friends, and I just decided today was the day. I have been a little anxious this morning, but not that bad. I think reading all the withdrawal symptoms has made me a little more nervous than I was before. I have told myself that I was going to quit, but I always kept it to myself. I never told the wife I was quitting, so if i failed she wouldn't know about it. I told her that i was quitting this morning. I told the people in my office i was quitting too. Now I cannot fail. If I start dipping again, then everyone will know that I couldn't handle it. I know that might not be the best way to look at it, but I think it will help motivate me. Anyway, I guess I am done rambling. Thanks for having this site, and I will update my status as I continue.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Evil_Won on June 09, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
Welcome, I think. I sense a lot of uncertainty in your intro. Sure, there will be apprehension and fear when quitting as you face withdrawal and your brain has to completely rewire to function without a poison. The whole process sucks to be honest. But why are you really quitting? I read about trying, hiding, not wanting to look like a fool to your wife and coworkers if you fail, a daughter, another kid on the way, etc. But what about addiction? You didn't mention that. Are you an addict? Quitting is forever, one day at a time, otherwise you are just stopping again. Quitting doesn't get put on hold for hunting season, or when out drinking, or anything else. So why are you really here?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Raider on June 09, 2014, 11:29:00 AM
You have a great quit "started". Making yourself accountable to your family and friends is a HUGE step. Having the right quit attitude is the next. Here's how it works around here. The price for admission into the club is a three step process.

Post Roll Daily (See the Welcome Center to find out how)
Honor your word (This one is to yourself and to your new quit brothers and sisters on KTC)
Be active in the KTC community (Being active has helped me be and stay quit)

that's how it works. September 14 is your quit group. Now get in there and make some new friends.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Raider on June 09, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Welcome, I think. I sense a lot of uncertainty in your intro. Sure, there will be apprehension and fear when quitting as you face withdrawal and your brain has to completely rewire to function without a poison. The whole process sucks to be honest. But why are you really quitting? I read about trying, hiding, not wanting to look like a fool to your wife and coworkers if you fail, a daughter, another kid on the way, etc. But what about addiction? You didn't mention that. Are you an addict? Quitting is forever, one day at a time, otherwise you are just stopping again. Quitting doesn't get put on hold for hunting season, or when out drinking, or anything else. So why are you really here?
Great points Evil. I too had stopped before only to have "one" during hunting season. There are obviously some questions to be answered. Also noticed "as I continue". This is a daily responsibility/duty. One cannot expect to succeed by swinging through every now and then.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: J2thaZ on June 09, 2014, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: Raider
Quote from: Evil_Won
Welcome, I think. I sense a lot of uncertainty in your intro. Sure, there will be apprehension and fear when quitting as you face withdrawal and your brain has to completely rewire to function without a poison. The whole process sucks to be honest. But why are you really quitting? I read about trying, hiding, not wanting to look like a fool to your wife and coworkers if you fail, a daughter, another kid on the way, etc. But what about addiction? You didn't mention that. Are you an addict? Quitting is forever, one day at a time, otherwise you are just stopping again. Quitting doesn't get put on hold for hunting season, or when out drinking, or anything else. So why are you really here?
Great points Evil. I too had stopped before only to have "one" during hunting season. There are obviously some questions to be answered. Also noticed "as I continue". This is a daily responsibility/duty. One cannot expect to succeed by swinging through every now and then.
In addition: ODAAT (one day at a time). Don't worry about quitting tomorrow. Quit just for today and quit like your life depends on it (it does). Hunting season is a ways off and when you're 4 or 5 months quit at that point, you'll give the nic a big 'Finger'

Glad to have you aboard TG. Grit your teeth and get this done today.

J2thaZ
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 09, 2014, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Welcome, I think. I sense a lot of uncertainty in your intro. Sure, there will be apprehension and fear when quitting as you face withdrawal and your brain has to completely rewire to function without a poison. The whole process sucks to be honest. But why are you really quitting? I read about trying, hiding, not wanting to look like a fool to your wife and coworkers if you fail, a daughter, another kid on the way, etc. But what about addiction? You didn't mention that. Are you an addict? Quitting is forever, one day at a time, otherwise you are just stopping again. Quitting doesn't get put on hold for hunting season, or when out drinking, or anything else. So why are you really here?
I guess I was rambling a little before...Just trying to introduce, and tell a little about myself. I am quitting because I want to quit. I have wanted to quit forever. I realize I am addicted to the stuff. I think about it all the time. I feel like it helps me concentrate, it helps me focus on a project i'm working on, it helps me when driving...and so on and so on. I know it doesn't actually help me do any of that, but it is still something i think about. I know this isn't going to be easy, that is why I started looking for support. I also told people so I would feel accountable. I have eaten more this morning than I usually do in a week. I am nervous that I am going to fail. Also, I have never used a message board so I am trying to figure this out as well. I am just going to take it one day at a time, and make it happen.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Steakbomb18 on June 09, 2014, 12:08:00 PM
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Welcome, I think. I sense a lot of uncertainty in your intro. Sure, there will be apprehension and fear when quitting as you face withdrawal and your brain has to completely rewire to function without a poison. The whole process sucks to be honest. But why are you really quitting? I read about trying, hiding, not wanting to look like a fool to your wife and coworkers if you fail, a daughter, another kid on the way, etc. But what about addiction? You didn't mention that. Are you an addict? Quitting is forever, one day at a time, otherwise you are just stopping again. Quitting doesn't get put on hold for hunting season, or when out drinking, or anything else. So why are you really here?
I guess I was rambling a little before...Just trying to introduce, and tell a little about myself. I am quitting because I want to quit. I have wanted to quit forever. I realize I am addicted to the stuff. I think about it all the time. I feel like it helps me concentrate, it helps me focus on a project i'm working on, it helps me when driving...and so on and so on. I know it doesn't actually help me do any of that, but it is still something i think about. I know this isn't going to be easy, that is why I started looking for support. I also told people so I would feel accountable. I have eaten more this morning than I usually do in a week. I am nervous that I am going to fail. Also, I have never used a message board so I am trying to figure this out as well. I am just going to take it one day at a time, and make it happen.
Good answers. You recognize that 1) you are an addict 2) you want to quit for you 3) nicotine gives you a false sense of security and 4) you need accountability. With that said, welcome to Day 1. It's going to suck balls, but it needs to suck balls. You don't ever want to go through this again. With that said, keep checking the site, read, post roll, get involved and dive into this quit 100%. Evil hints at apprehension; prove to yourself and all of us that you are in it full throttle. Post roll and make a promise to your quit group (September) and all of us that you will not use nicotine for that day. Make friends, exchange numbers, join chat, what ever it takes. No longer will you be accountable only to yourself. There is only one way to go at this; we quit like fuck (QLF) and we'll QLF with you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Raider on June 09, 2014, 12:55:00 PM
Quote from: Steakbomb18
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Quote from: Evil_Won
Welcome, I think. I sense a lot of uncertainty in your intro. Sure, there will be apprehension and fear when quitting as you face withdrawal and your brain has to completely rewire to function without a poison. The whole process sucks to be honest. But why are you really quitting? I read about trying, hiding, not wanting to look like a fool to your wife and coworkers if you fail, a daughter, another kid on the way, etc. But what about addiction? You didn't mention that. Are you an addict? Quitting is forever, one day at a time, otherwise you are just stopping again. Quitting doesn't get put on hold for hunting season, or when out drinking, or anything else. So why are you really here?
I guess I was rambling a little before...Just trying to introduce, and tell a little about myself. I am quitting because I want to quit. I have wanted to quit forever. I realize I am addicted to the stuff. I think about it all the time. I feel like it helps me concentrate, it helps me focus on a project i'm working on, it helps me when driving...and so on and so on. I know it doesn't actually help me do any of that, but it is still something i think about. I know this isn't going to be easy, that is why I started looking for support. I also told people so I would feel accountable. I have eaten more this morning than I usually do in a week. I am nervous that I am going to fail. Also, I have never used a message board so I am trying to figure this out as well. I am just going to take it one day at a time, and make it happen.
Good answers. You recognize that 1) you are an addict 2) you want to quit for you 3) nicotine gives you a false sense of security and 4) you need accountability. With that said, welcome to Day 1. It's going to suck balls, but it needs to suck balls. You don't ever want to go through this again. With that said, keep checking the site, read, post roll, get involved and dive into this quit 100%. Evil hints at apprehension; prove to yourself and all of us that you are in it full throttle. Post roll and make a promise to your quit group (September) and all of us that you will not use nicotine for that day. Make friends, exchange numbers, join chat, what ever it takes. No longer will you be accountable only to yourself. There is only one way to go at this; we quit like fuck (QLF) and we'll QLF with you.
This place is amazing if you allow it to be. Intros are hard cause once they are done and posted for all to see......well that's it. If you are quick you can edit.

Welcome aboard. As Evil said, this is going to suck. It will suck for quite some time but if you use the site, your family, and your friends, you will succeed. Be sure to arm yourself with Nic Free Alternatives (gum, seeds, fake dip, etc). We are 100% nic free (no patches, smokes, etc). I noticed you commented on how much you ate this morning. I think we all did in the beginning but don't worry, weight is a lot easier to lose than cancer.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Thumblewort on June 09, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
Toogood, you sound a lot like me 97 days ago. You know it's gonna suck, and so did I. I even was such a masochist, I did a long term suck and used a nicotine patch for 30 day before these bad asses got through my thick skull. So instead of being nearly 100 days quit, I am 67 days. I was so scared of quitting I went through the suck twice.

The truth is that it will suck, and will be worse tomorrow and Wednesday. And we want you to remember how bad it is, so when you wake up on day 4 or 5, you will know you never have to do that again if you stay quit. Quitting is like visiting someplace cool that you have never been to, every couple of days I see a positive in my quit, something I have been blind to for the last 17 years. I have had exactly ZERO negative experiences in term of quitting.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: DaveKnight on June 13, 2014, 07:26:00 AM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Toogood, you sound a lot like me 97 days ago. You know it's gonna suck, and so did I. I even was such a masochist, I did a long term suck and used a nicotine patch for 30 day before these bad asses got through my thick skull. So instead of being nearly 100 days quit, I am 67 days. I was so scared of quitting I went through the suck twice.

The truth is that it will suck, and will be worse tomorrow and Wednesday. And we want you to remember how bad it is, so when you wake up on day 4 or 5, you will know you never have to do that again if you stay quit. Quitting is like visiting someplace cool that you have never been to, every couple of days I see a positive in my quit, something I have been blind to for the last 17 years. I have had exactly ZERO negative experiences in term of quitting.
So far I have had the same feeling. I am actually relieved to be quitting. It is not as scary or painful as I had anticipated, although I have stopped using before. I want this one to stick, just have to take it ODAAT!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: loot on June 13, 2014, 07:40:00 AM
Just exactly where the fuck is toogoodtoopostRoll?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CavMan83 on June 13, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
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Just exactly where the fuck is toogoodtoopostRoll?
My question exactly...that and he never answered ANY of the other responders. Don't look like he wants to quit as much as he claims.... feel a bit sorry for him, actually.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 16, 2014, 07:40:00 AM
I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on June 16, 2014, 09:17:00 AM
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I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Do you have a phone? No reason you can't phone a promise into a fellow quitter. Beware and listen to the advise you are given, we as addicts recognize the dangers that lead to caving because we've been there and seen it over and over. I remember one dude that while camping hiked 2 miles to get to the top of a Mountian in order to get a cell signal so he could send a text to a fellow quitter his promise. Over 2 years I've seen very few good excuses not to get your name on roll.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 16, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: toogoodootgr
I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Do you have a phone? No reason you can't phone a promise into a fellow quitter. Beware and listen to the advise you are given, we as addicts recognize the dangers that lead to caving because we've been there and seen it over and over. I remember one dude that while camping hiked 2 miles to get to the top of a Mountian in order to get a cell signal so he could send a text to a fellow quitter his promise. Over 2 years I've seen very few good excuses not to get your name on roll.
The only phone that we have is a satellite phone. No texting on a SAT phone. I am doing what I can, but not going to argue about it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Doc2quit4good on June 16, 2014, 11:58:00 AM
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Quote from: toogoodootgr
I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Do you have a phone? No reason you can't phone a promise into a fellow quitter. Beware and listen to the advise you are given, we as addicts recognize the dangers that lead to caving because we've been there and seen it over and over. I remember one dude that while camping hiked 2 miles to get to the top of a Mountian in order to get a cell signal so he could send a text to a fellow quitter his promise. Over 2 years I've seen very few good excuses not to get your name on roll.
The only phone that we have is a satellite phone. No texting on a SAT phone. I am doing what I can, but not going to argue about it.
I'm sorry man but how are we supposed to know you didn't dip out on the boat? How can we know you are committed to this when you say things like posting roll everyday just isn't gonna happen? Got to get a grip on why you are here.....
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: rdad on June 16, 2014, 12:05:00 PM
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Quote from: toogoodootgr
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: toogoodootgr
I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Do you have a phone? No reason you can't phone a promise into a fellow quitter. Beware and listen to the advise you are given, we as addicts recognize the dangers that lead to caving because we've been there and seen it over and over. I remember one dude that while camping hiked 2 miles to get to the top of a Mountian in order to get a cell signal so he could send a text to a fellow quitter his promise. Over 2 years I've seen very few good excuses not to get your name on roll.
The only phone that we have is a satellite phone. No texting on a SAT phone. I am doing what I can, but not going to argue about it.
I'm sorry man but how are we supposed to know you didn't dip out on the boat? How can we know you are committed to this when you say things like posting roll everyday just isn't gonna happen? Got to get a grip on why you are here.....
No texting on Sat phone. So What. Why don't you just call a brother and ask him to post for you. This is either important or its not. The, "I just cant post everyday" is weak. If you want to, you will find a way to do it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: UH60Chief107 on June 16, 2014, 12:38:00 PM
I can understand where you are coming from. In my job sometimes I have to leave at a moments notice and even I don't know how long or where I am going(or what shit I am going to get thrown in). For me it will be difficult to text because these locations are usually third world countries in the midst of turmoil so there is no cell service or internet. Just be sure, if you can, to send a message to a fellow roll poster to let them know you will be gone. For me, I can't even really do this because if the "man" finds out I am posting timelines on the internet, I could be in a lot of trouble. The whole program is based off of communication and accountability so we just have to roll with the house rules and make it work by any means available. If this cannot work for you then it might not be the program you need to go with.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: DaveKnight on June 16, 2014, 03:08:00 PM
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Quote from: toogoodootgr
I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Do you have a phone? No reason you can't phone a promise into a fellow quitter. Beware and listen to the advise you are given, we as addicts recognize the dangers that lead to caving because we've been there and seen it over and over. I remember one dude that while camping hiked 2 miles to get to the top of a Mountian in order to get a cell signal so he could send a text to a fellow quitter his promise. Over 2 years I've seen very few good excuses not to get your name on roll.
The only phone that we have is a satellite phone. No texting on a SAT phone. I am doing what I can, but not going to argue about it.
I understand the rules of the community quite well, but having been on Active Duty in the Marine Corps I can attest that there are some times and scenarios that a person would be unable to post roll. TooGoodToPostRoll may be a commercial fisherman, outside of tower range and only have an emergency use phone available (from what I gathered from his posts). However, he should let the community or a quit brother know of any extended absences so we can keep him in our thoughts and prayers as he fights the battle alone. I know posting roll is a big deal, but not everyone works a 9-5 and has consistent access to communication devices. It looks like 60 Chief understands as well. Unavailability is another struggle some of our brothers have to deal with, we need to be able to support them in that respect as well.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 16, 2014, 03:32:00 PM
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Quote from: toogoodootgr
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: toogoodootgr
I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Do you have a phone? No reason you can't phone a promise into a fellow quitter. Beware and listen to the advise you are given, we as addicts recognize the dangers that lead to caving because we've been there and seen it over and over. I remember one dude that while camping hiked 2 miles to get to the top of a Mountian in order to get a cell signal so he could send a text to a fellow quitter his promise. Over 2 years I've seen very few good excuses not to get your name on roll.
The only phone that we have is a satellite phone. No texting on a SAT phone. I am doing what I can, but not going to argue about it.
I understand the rules of the community quite well, but having been on Active Duty in the Marine Corps I can attest that there are some times and scenarios that a person would be unable to post roll. TooGoodToPostRoll may be a commercial fisherman, outside of tower range and only have an emergency use phone available (from what I gathered from his posts). However, he should let the community or a quit brother know of any extended absences so we can keep him in our thoughts and prayers as he fights the battle alone. I know posting roll is a big deal, but not everyone works a 9-5 and has consistent access to communication devices. It looks like 60 Chief understands as well. Unavailability is another struggle some of our brothers have to deal with, we need to be able to support them in that respect as well.
Apparently having a job and making a living isn't important. I think it should be pretty obvious that I do not spend a hell of a lot of time on message boards. I have posted in the wrong place a few times, and screwed up a few other things. I joined this group because I wanted to interact with people like me. i wanted to read and learn from people struggling to fight off an addiction that is very hard to control. I didn't join to have someone cuss or talk down to me. It is very easy to throw stones when you are not in my shoes. I work an office job 40-50 hours a week and fill in the gaps with commercial fishing. If you have never been offshore, then you wouldn't understand that you are cutoff from the outside world. You work in shifts and sleep. That is all. I didn't think about a quit brother because I have only been involved for a week. I have had one person offer me his number, and honestly I am still trying to figure this thing out. I am disappointed that I got on here this morning and have people dropping F bombs on me and trying to call me out. i guess it is pretty easy to do these things behind the comfort of a computer screen. I do appreciate the support that I have gotten from a few people. I am going out on another trip in the morning. I will be gone anywhere from 4-7 days. It depends on the fishing. I will not be able to do roll call. If this is going to be a problem, then fuck it. I am committed to quitting, and I would like your support. If the group doesn't agree with the way i am doing it, then I will accept whatever you have to say. I won't take some little bitch telling me that I am toogootoopostroll. I work my ass of, and if that isn't acceptable then you can kiss my ass.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Knockout on June 16, 2014, 03:51:00 PM
Perhaps you haven't taken a look around the site, but the catalyst of this program is posting roll...Every.Damn.Day.

If you won't have internet access, then text someone before you leave and ask them to post for you for "x" days, promising them that you will stay quit.

"I have had one person offer me his number". And how many people have you PM'd your number to? There are 40 active posters in September, reach out to them. They are new here too.

It's simple, you get your name on that roll every day, somehow, no matter what. If that's "not how you roll", and you want to bypass the methods which are the catalyst of this site, then you can piss off. Sorry, but you are not special. We are all addicts and this is the foundation of quit here.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Evil_Won on June 16, 2014, 04:29:00 PM
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Quote from: DaveKnight
Quote from: toogoodootgr
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I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Do you have a phone? No reason you can't phone a promise into a fellow quitter. Beware and listen to the advise you are given, we as addicts recognize the dangers that lead to caving because we've been there and seen it over and over. I remember one dude that while camping hiked 2 miles to get to the top of a Mountian in order to get a cell signal so he could send a text to a fellow quitter his promise. Over 2 years I've seen very few good excuses not to get your name on roll.
The only phone that we have is a satellite phone. No texting on a SAT phone. I am doing what I can, but not going to argue about it.
I understand the rules of the community quite well, but having been on Active Duty in the Marine Corps I can attest that there are some times and scenarios that a person would be unable to post roll. TooGoodToPostRoll may be a commercial fisherman, outside of tower range and only have an emergency use phone available (from what I gathered from his posts). However, he should let the community or a quit brother know of any extended absences so we can keep him in our thoughts and prayers as he fights the battle alone. I know posting roll is a big deal, but not everyone works a 9-5 and has consistent access to communication devices. It looks like 60 Chief understands as well. Unavailability is another struggle some of our brothers have to deal with, we need to be able to support them in that respect as well.
Apparently having a job and making a living isn't important. I think it should be pretty obvious that I do not spend a hell of a lot of time on message boards. I have posted in the wrong place a few times, and screwed up a few other things. I joined this group because I wanted to interact with people like me. i wanted to read and learn from people struggling to fight off an addiction that is very hard to control. I didn't join to have someone cuss or talk down to me. It is very easy to throw stones when you are not in my shoes. I work an office job 40-50 hours a week and fill in the gaps with commercial fishing. If you have never been offshore, then you wouldn't understand that you are cutoff from the outside world. You work in shifts and sleep. That is all. I didn't think about a quit brother because I have only been involved for a week. I have had one person offer me his number, and honestly I am still trying to figure this thing out. I am disappointed that I got on here this morning and have people dropping F bombs on me and trying to call me out. i guess it is pretty easy to do these things behind the comfort of a computer screen. I do appreciate the support that I have gotten from a few people. I am going out on another trip in the morning. I will be gone anywhere from 4-7 days. It depends on the fishing. I will not be able to do roll call. If this is going to be a problem, then fuck it. I am committed to quitting, and I would like your support. If the group doesn't agree with the way i am doing it, then I will accept whatever you have to say. I won't take some little bitch telling me that I am toogootoopostroll. I work my ass of, and if that isn't acceptable then you can kiss my ass.
Shoot a PM to Cmark (http://forum.killthecan.org/profile/201730/). He's in San Diego and spends more time fishing on boats then he does on land. Maybe he can provide some insight on how he has managed to get his name on July 2012 Roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008346/568/?x=50#new) for 804 days.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Derk40 on June 16, 2014, 04:47:00 PM
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I am sorry. i have been out a few days. I have stints where I have no access to internet for 3-4 days. It appears this may be an issue. I am still holding strong. If it is going to be a problem with me missing roll call every once in a while, then that is what it is. I am not sure about the animosity. I am still taking it one day at a time. I just returned from a 4 day trip about 150 KM off the SC coast. Two of the 4 on board dipped and 3 of the 4 smoked. I fought through it and managed to make it back without doing either. I feel like if I can make it through that, then i have made a big step. The bottom line is that I will not be able to post roll every day. It is just not going to happen. no matter how much i would like to, there really isn't a possibility of that happening.
Do you have a phone? No reason you can't phone a promise into a fellow quitter. Beware and listen to the advise you are given, we as addicts recognize the dangers that lead to caving because we've been there and seen it over and over. I remember one dude that while camping hiked 2 miles to get to the top of a Mountian in order to get a cell signal so he could send a text to a fellow quitter his promise. Over 2 years I've seen very few good excuses not to get your name on roll.
The only phone that we have is a satellite phone. No texting on a SAT phone. I am doing what I can, but not going to argue about it.
I understand the rules of the community quite well, but having been on Active Duty in the Marine Corps I can attest that there are some times and scenarios that a person would be unable to post roll. TooGoodToPostRoll may be a commercial fisherman, outside of tower range and only have an emergency use phone available (from what I gathered from his posts). However, he should let the community or a quit brother know of any extended absences so we can keep him in our thoughts and prayers as he fights the battle alone. I know posting roll is a big deal, but not everyone works a 9-5 and has consistent access to communication devices. It looks like 60 Chief understands as well. Unavailability is another struggle some of our brothers have to deal with, we need to be able to support them in that respect as well.
Apparently having a job and making a living isn't important. I think it should be pretty obvious that I do not spend a hell of a lot of time on message boards. I have posted in the wrong place a few times, and screwed up a few other things. I joined this group because I wanted to interact with people like me. i wanted to read and learn from people struggling to fight off an addiction that is very hard to control. I didn't join to have someone cuss or talk down to me. It is very easy to throw stones when you are not in my shoes. I work an office job 40-50 hours a week and fill in the gaps with commercial fishing. If you have never been offshore, then you wouldn't understand that you are cutoff from the outside world. You work in shifts and sleep. That is all. I didn't think about a quit brother because I have only been involved for a week. I have had one person offer me his number, and honestly I am still trying to figure this thing out. I am disappointed that I got on here this morning and have people dropping F bombs on me and trying to call me out. i guess it is pretty easy to do these things behind the comfort of a computer screen. I do appreciate the support that I have gotten from a few people. I am going out on another trip in the morning. I will be gone anywhere from 4-7 days. It depends on the fishing. I will not be able to do roll call. If this is going to be a problem, then fuck it. I am committed to quitting, and I would like your support. If the group doesn't agree with the way i am doing it, then I will accept whatever you have to say. I won't take some little bitch telling me that I am toogootoopostroll. I work my ass of, and if that isn't acceptable then you can kiss my ass.
Shoot a PM to Cmark (http://forum.killthecan.org/profile/201730/). He's in San Diego and spends more time fishing on boats then he does on land. Maybe he can provide some insight on how he has managed to get his name on July 2012 Roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008346/568/?x=50#new) for 804 days.
We all are in your shoes... so don't act like you are special. You are not. I walked 25 years in your shoes and I tossed them 359 days ago on June 23, 2013. That is the day I quit and took my life back.

Also, this is NOT Facebook, Instagram or one of those other BS sites where you go to "interact" with people like you. It is a lot more than that. Everyone that posted roll today has pledged that they are quit today. This is not a social hr... it is a quitter's website and forum.

I do understand that some jobs prohibit your ability to post roll from time to time, especially when in the military. Figure out if you can make this work and if you can... post roll and quit.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 18, 2014, 08:08:00 AM
Day 10 of my quit. Yesterday was by far the hardest day so far. I had the sweats, a headache, anxiety, and massive cravings. I have been having crazy dreams for the past few nights as well. i fought through it and feel a lot better this morning. Still QLF and going strong. This weekend is going to be tough as i will be around a group of smokers and dippers. I still got this, and just wanted to note this day to remember. i will look back on this day and recall how I MADE IT MY BITCH.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: UH60Chief107 on June 18, 2014, 08:11:00 AM
Way to go man. You are doing great. Bring some herbal fake chew with you when you are around other dippers. That is what I have been doing at work and it seems to help a LOT. Keep it up and stay QLF!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Derk40 on June 18, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Day 10 of my quit. Yesterday was by far the hardest day so far. I had the sweats, a headache, anxiety, and massive cravings. I have been having crazy dreams for the past few nights as well. i fought through it and feel a lot better this morning. Still QLF and going strong. This weekend is going to be tough as i will be around a group of smokers and dippers. I still got this, and just wanted to note this day to remember. i will look back on this day and recall how I MADE IT MY BITCH.
Stay focused on today. This weekend is still a ways off, so let's worry about that when it comes. You must own this day first and foremost! That is the ODAAT we all speak about.

The only thing you control is your actions right now. All the other things such as the past, the future only create stress. Push it aside and just worry about today. Live in the moment!

You can do this. Quit with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 24, 2014, 07:57:00 AM
After a long weekend with some old college buddies I am still quit. It was a struggle at first, but I got support from some old friends. I feel like if i made it though this past weekend, then I can make it through anything. I know it is one day at a time, and i am feeling better each day. Today is day 16 of my quit and it definitely seems to be getting easier for me.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: rdhawk05em on June 24, 2014, 08:10:00 AM
Today is 6/24/14 and is day 3 of my quit campaign. I am 31 years old and have chewed since i was 16. I have tried to quit a few times in the past, made it a few weeks and then came crawling back. This is the first time I have ever found this site and find it really encouraging. One question i have for everyone is in regards to the non-tobacco alternatives. I've always thought that going to something like that would just make it quite easy to transition back into the actual stuff and not serve me any purpose. Do most find that this is a good alternative to start with? And if so, at what point do most kick the fake stuff entirely? Thanks for listening, and am looking forward to this accountability helping me!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CavMan83 on June 24, 2014, 08:23:00 AM
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After a long weekend with some old college buddies I am still quit. It was a struggle at first, but I got support from some old friends. I feel like if i made it though this past weekend, then I can make it through anything. I know it is one day at a time, and i am feeling better each day. Today is day 16 of my quit and it definitely seems to be getting easier for me.
TooGood,

Looks like you're getting there....one small victory at a time. Proud to quit with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: UH60Chief107 on June 24, 2014, 08:27:00 AM
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Today is 6/24/14 and is day 3 of my quit campaign. I am 31 years old and have chewed since i was 16. I have tried to quit a few times in the past, made it a few weeks and then came crawling back. This is the first time I have ever found this site and find it really encouraging. One question i have for everyone is in regards to the non-tobacco alternatives. I've always thought that going to something like that would just make it quite easy to transition back into the actual stuff and not serve me any purpose. Do most find that this is a good alternative to start with? And if so, at what point do most kick the fake stuff entirely? Thanks for listening, and am looking forward to this accountability helping me!
Welcome rdhawk,


First and foremost, welcome to KTC. You will find this site a huge help to you on your quest for quit. You should start your own introduction thread so that others can chime in and help you along the way. If you are serious about quitting, head on over to the Welcome Center and read up forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)

To answer your question. . . . It all varies by person. I personally didn't use the herbal chew for the first week or so of my quit. Once the demons really started kicking, I used it when I had a strong urge. In the beginning of your quit there will be a lot of urges and strange feelings going on in your body and brain. These are fueled by not only your addiction to the actual nicotine, but also to the oral fixation of having a dip in your lip. By using the herbal chew, you can help alleviate the stress that accomodates the oral fixation so that you can focus solely on the nicotine withdrawal and cravings. Some people are able to just go through both withdrawals and not miss a beat. It all depends on your level of resilience. Once you get over the actual nicotine withdrawal, you can then focus on ditching the oral fixation. I personally only use the herbal chew when I feel a VERY strong craving, or when I am around other people that are dipping.

-Chief
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 25, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
Into Day 17 and struggling a bit. I have been sleeping well, but last night didn't go well. I kept waking up after dreaming about dip, or just waking up in sweats. This just reminds me that I have to take this one day at a time. i felt good all day yesterday, and was very happy to make it through a tough weekend. I guess this was just my old friend nic reminding me not to get too comfortable. I'm still QLF, and maybe the sleep will come today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on July 01, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
Into day 23 and it has been a tough day. I am still fighting the fight and taking one day at a time. Has anybody else noticed their teeth hurting? My front teeth don't hurt, but my molars have been hurting the last few days. I don't know if I have been grinding my teeth, or what. I have just noticed that my teeth have been having this dull throbbing for 4-5 days. Anyways, it is getting easier. I still get that urge to reach for the can before I begin basically anything. I just don't have the can in my pocket anymore, and the urge does go away.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on July 14, 2014, 02:33:00 PM
Day 36 and feeling very good about my quit. Just got back from Vacation for 11 days, and still QLF each day. I never had the huge craving I was worried about. I was at the beach and had different friends coming and going throughout the week. I actually craved a cig more than a dip, which was surprising. I never really smoked cig's, unless the occasional one while drinking a beer. I think the nic bitch was just trying to get me to cave in another way. Back to the grind today. I still crave a dip the first thing every morning. I get the craving as soon as I sit down at my desk. I don't get the craving long, and I feel like it is getting a little easier. I just wanted to put this milestone down, so I can draw from this later on. I made it through a tough week, and just patting myself on the back a little. QLF one day at a time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Thumblewort on July 14, 2014, 03:05:00 PM
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Day 36 and feeling very good about my quit. Just got back from Vacation for 11 days, and still QLF each day. I never had the huge craving I was worried about. I was at the beach and had different friends coming and going throughout the week. I actually craved a cig more than a dip, which was surprising. I never really smoked cig's, unless the occasional one while drinking a beer. I think the nic bitch was just trying to get me to cave in another way. Back to the grind today. I still crave a dip the first thing every morning. I get the craving as soon as I sit down at my desk. I don't get the craving long, and I feel like it is getting a little easier. I just wanted to put this milestone down, so I can draw from this later on. I made it through a tough week, and just patting myself on the back a little. QLF one day at a time.
You have a damn fine quit toogood, wasn't vacation fun w/o having to look for a spit cup every couple of hours?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on July 15, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
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Day 36 and feeling very good about my quit. Just got back from Vacation for 11 days, and still QLF each day. I never had the huge craving I was worried about. I was at the beach and had different friends coming and going throughout the week. I actually craved a cig more than a dip, which was surprising. I never really smoked cig's, unless the occasional one while drinking a beer. I think the nic bitch was just trying to get me to cave in another way. Back to the grind today. I still crave a dip the first thing every morning. I get the craving as soon as I sit down at my desk. I don't get the craving long, and I feel like it is getting a little easier. I just wanted to put this milestone down, so I can draw from this later on. I made it through a tough week, and just patting myself on the back a little. QLF one day at a time.
You have a damn fine quit toogood, wasn't vacation fun w/o having to look for a spit cup every couple of hours?
It sure was
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on August 04, 2014, 08:30:00 AM
Day 57 today, and feeling good. I just feel great, and have not had the desire for dip in a few weeks. I have gained a few pounds, but i am trying to change that as well. I have more money in the pocket, so I have joined the gym. I know the stress will be coming in the next month. I have a new girl due September 8th. I remember how stressful the first one was, and I hope this one is a little easier. Honestly, I can't believe it has been 57 days. The time has gone by quickly since the first few weeks. QLF EDD
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Thumblewort on August 04, 2014, 08:34:00 AM
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Day 57 today, and feeling good. I just feel great, and have not had the desire for dip in a few weeks. I have gained a few pounds, but i am trying to change that as well. I have more money in the pocket, so I have joined the gym. I know the stress will be coming in the next month. I have a new girl due September 8th. I remember how stressful the first one was, and I hope this one is a little easier. Honestly, I can't believe it has been 57 days. The time has gone by quickly since the first few weeks. QLF EDD
57 is bad ass brother, enjoy the freedom from nicotine with the new little one, she will never have to see her dad with a dip in!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on August 04, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
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Day 57 today, and feeling good. I just feel great, and have not had the desire for dip in a few weeks. I have gained a few pounds, but i am trying to change that as well. I have more money in the pocket, so I have joined the gym. I know the stress will be coming in the next month. I have a new girl due September 8th. I remember how stressful the first one was, and I hope this one is a little easier. Honestly, I can't believe it has been 57 days. The time has gone by quickly since the first few weeks. QLF EDD
57 is bad ass brother, enjoy the freedom from nicotine with the new little one, she will never have to see her dad with a dip in!
great job coming up on 2 months, and yes keep on the path here so that the little girl will never see daddy with poison in his mouth.

and yes, the benefits of quitting will start to reveal themselves as you go. I mean you saved the money to join the gym, a completely healthy alternative that has helped tons of us here. And yes the weight coming off will be the easier part.

keep up the great work

I will quit right beside you
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on August 14, 2014, 08:29:00 AM
Day 67 and fricking dip dreams. I have had dreams all week. I'm still QLF, but this week seems like starting all over again. I'm not sure what triggered it, but I have had cravings throughout the day....I know it will pass, but dang that nic bitch is working me hard. I do have some good news. I had always heard that your gums would never grow back because of all of the dipping. Mine look as good as I can ever remember. I have always taken care of my teeth, but I was ashamed of my gum-line. I wouldn't even let my wife see it because it looked so bad. I'm happy to say the gums are looking a hell of a lot better. Now if I could just get rid of the dreams.........QLF EDD
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CavMan83 on August 14, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
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Day 67 and fricking dip dreams. I have had dreams all week. I'm still QLF, but this week seems like starting all over again. I'm not sure what triggered it, but I have had cravings throughout the day....I know it will pass, but dang that nic bitch is working me hard. I do have some good news. I had always heard that your gums would never grow back because of all of the dipping. Mine look as good as I can ever remember. I have always taken care of my teeth, but I was ashamed of my gum-line. I wouldn't even let my wife see it because it looked so bad. I'm happy to say the gums are looking a hell of a lot better. Now if I could just get rid of the dreams.........QLF EDD
Toogood,

They'll pass....I haven't had but a few, and everytime I woke up in a cold sweat thinking I had f'd up. For whatever reason, I am using WAY more of the fake stuff (Bacc-Off) than I did earlier in the quit...I'm going through a can a day....and I still can't think with the clarity and precision that I used to. I talked with a quitter during my vacation (he hits 500 days today!!) and he told me that it'll come....there will be a moment when the funk/fog/haze/whatever lifts and the mental acuity returns....he said it was after the six month mark for him....we're a long way from the six month mark!

Glad to hear your gumline's looking good. Quit on, brother, quit on!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on August 14, 2014, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: CavMan83
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Day 67 and fricking dip dreams. I have had dreams all week. I'm still QLF, but this week seems like starting all over again. I'm not sure what triggered it, but I have had cravings throughout the day....I know it will pass, but dang that nic bitch is working me hard. I do have some good news. I had always heard that your gums would never grow back because of all of the dipping. Mine look as good as I can ever remember. I have always taken care of my teeth, but I was ashamed of my gum-line. I wouldn't even let my wife see it because it looked so bad. I'm happy to say the gums are looking a hell of a lot better. Now if I could just get rid of the dreams.........QLF EDD
Toogood,

They'll pass....I haven't had but a few, and everytime I woke up in a cold sweat thinking I had f'd up. For whatever reason, I am using WAY more of the fake stuff (Bacc-Off) than I did earlier in the quit...I'm going through a can a day....and I still can't think with the clarity and precision that I used to. I talked with a quitter during my vacation (he hits 500 days today!!) and he told me that it'll come....there will be a moment when the funk/fog/haze/whatever lifts and the mental acuity returns....he said it was after the six month mark for him....we're a long way from the six month mark!

Glad to hear your gumline's looking good. Quit on, brother, quit on!!
Yeah, I haven't used any of the fake stiff. i looked into it, and then never went and bought any. I had seeds for a while, but I was just making a mess of my office and truck. Thanks for the encouragement. I know we've got this. If it was easy, then everyone would do it. QLF
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on August 19, 2014, 08:28:00 AM
Day 72 and still QLF. Yesterday was one of the toughest days I have ever experienced. My mother has dementia and early onset Alzheimer's. She walked off Sunday afternoon and didn't come back. I didn't find out until about 5:00 am yesterday morning. I made the two hour trip home in less than an hour and a half. Police had mobile command and helicopters in the air when I arrived. She was found about 6 miles away from the house at an abandoned home off of a dirt road. It was amazing the man power and support that was around the area. I saw people I hadn't seen since high school that had been up all night looking. She was ok, just pissed at my father for making her stay in the woods all night. He catches the brunt of the disease because he is the one that has to live with her. Through all of this, the nic bitch did pop into my mind. She popped into my mind on the ride down. Honestly if there would have been a can in the truck, I can't say i wouldn't have taken a dip. I kept reminding myself that one problem doesn't solve another problem. Anyway, just wanted to show that if i can get through that stressful event without folding then i feel like i can get through anything. I saw several people dipping throughout the day, but I just kept the QLF mindset. It is so easy to fold. Temptation is everywhere, but I just didn't want to let myself and the sultans down. I didn't reach out for help, but I knew it was there if I really needed it. That was enough for me. Have a happy fricking Tuesday and QLF EDD
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CavMan83 on August 20, 2014, 11:40:00 AM
Glad your Mom's okay. Sorry you had to deal with that, and especially proud of the mindset you carried through it all. Quit on, man....quit on.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on October 01, 2014, 07:45:00 AM
Day 115 and still QLF. It has been a hell of a ride the past few weeks. I welcomed a new addition to the family, and we are all still trying to adjust to having another baby in the house. Thank god I have a male dog, because my wife and two daughters have definitely taken over the inside of the house. It is amazing how little sleep we actually need to survive. My new daughter has had some health issues, and she still hasn't been sleeping at night (or during the day for that matter). It is a struggle, but we are getting through it. All that being said, I am just very happy to be 115 days free of the nic bitch. The cravings still come and go, but they aren't as strong as they used to be. I am very thankful for the support i have gotten on this site. I appreciate the assholes that have harassed me when i have been late for roll. I am proud to be a Sultan and I quit with all my brothers today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Jenahen on October 01, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Toogoodootgr you are one hell of a quitter. All of these life changes you have endured make you stronger. So sorry about your mom. I'm glad she is safe.
I quit with you EDD!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on October 02, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: Jenahen
Toogoodootgr you are one hell of a quitter. All of these life changes you have endured make you stronger. So sorry about your mom. I'm glad she is safe.
I quit with you EDD!
Thanks Jen......Have a good one
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on November 13, 2014, 08:57:00 AM
Just a quick update.... It sure seems like a lot longer than 158 days since my last dip. I still get that craving occasionally. I normally get it when I am doing something that used to require a dip (hunting, fishing, cutting grass, breathing). We got some good news this week regarding our newborn. The MRI results showed no calcification of the brain, so that was huge. The newborn has decided to celebrate by not sleeping at all the past few nights. I will take the lack of sleep from crying over the lack of sleep from worrying any day. We still have some heart and hearing issues to deal with, but the brain and eyes are going to be fine. Through all of this my quit has gotten stronger. My faith has also gotten stronger, but i will leave that for another time. I wanted to thank all of the people who have PM'd, texted, and reached out to me. I appreciate the support. I quit with the entire KTC nation today. Thanks
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CavMan83 on November 13, 2014, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Just a quick update.... It sure seems like a lot longer than 158 days since my last dip. I still get that craving occasionally. I normally get it when I am doing something that used to require a dip (hunting, fishing, cutting grass, breathing). We got some good news this week regarding our newborn. The MRI results showed no calcification of the brain, so that was huge. The newborn has decided to celebrate by not sleeping at all the past few nights. I will take the lack of sleep from crying over the lack of sleep from worrying any day. We still have some heart and hearing issues to deal with, but the brain and eyes are going to be fine. Through all of this my quit has gotten stronger. My faith has also gotten stronger, but i will leave that for another time. I wanted to thank all of the people who have PM'd, texted, and reached out to me. I appreciate the support. I quit with the entire KTC nation today. Thanks
Continued prayers for your family brother.....know that He'll not lead you to something that He won't lead you through. Proud to be associated with you, proud to call you a Sultan brother!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on November 14, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: CavMan83
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Just a quick update.... It sure seems like a lot longer than 158 days since my last dip. I still get that craving occasionally. I normally get it when I am doing something that used to require a dip (hunting, fishing, cutting grass, breathing). We got some good news this week regarding our newborn. The MRI results showed no calcification of the brain, so that was huge. The newborn has decided to celebrate by not sleeping at all the past few nights. I will take the lack of sleep from crying over the lack of sleep from worrying any day. We still have some heart and hearing issues to deal with, but the brain and eyes are going to be fine. Through all of this my quit has gotten stronger. My faith has also gotten stronger, but i will leave that for another time. I wanted to thank all of the people who have PM'd, texted, and reached out to me. I appreciate the support. I quit with the entire KTC nation today. Thanks
Continued prayers for your family brother.....know that He'll not lead you to something that He won't lead you through. Proud to be associated with you, proud to call you a Sultan brother!
Thank you sir
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on December 31, 2014, 12:47:00 PM
Just wanted to take a moment to wish everyone a happy new year. Most of the Sultans have made it through 200 days and we are looking forward to 300. This has been the most difficult year of my life, and the nic bitch wasn't even close to the issues that have been dealt with. Through this all, my quit and faith have gotten stronger. I wanted to thank everyone for keeping us in their thoughts and prayers.The family is doing better. We do have some major obstacles to tackle in the next few months, but I know we will get through it. Thank you again to everyone with KTC that has shown their support, and I am especially thankful for my Sultan group. Here's to a great 2015. Take care
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on February 05, 2015, 02:09:00 PM
Well now officially one week away from my 5 month old's scheduled open heart surgery. She has a hole in her heart and they are going to open her up on the 13th. To say that it has been stressful would be an understatement. This is a fairly common heart defect, so that is the good news. They still have to open her up and stop her heart, and that is the bad news. She hasn't been able to gain any weight because her heart beats faster than normal, and that raises her metabolism. High metabolism means she needs to be fed every 2-3 hours, so that means no sleep for the past 5 months. Those with children know that tensions get a little high when you are running on fumes. Through this all, my wife has been a rock. She prays and really tries to keep a positive outlook. Our two year old girl really doesn't give us much of a break to think about anything else. It has been tough. I have thought about the nic biatch often. Most of the time I laugh it off, but sometimes she tries to bring me back in. I do not know if I will ever be completely free of her grasp. I do not think about dip like i used to. I only think about it when i am really stressed, and i feel like i am about to break. I still remind myself that it doesn't solve a problem, but just adds to it. I know that this group has really helped me in my times of need. I am glad that I joined KTC because I believe I would have caved without it. I thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers. I write because it just helps me think about things. Sometimes i need to put things into perspective. I am not looking for sympathy or attention. I am just using this as a little bit of therapy. Still going strong and still QLF. If I can do it, then anyone can.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: RAZD611 on February 05, 2015, 02:12:00 PM
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Well now officially one week away from my 5 month old's scheduled open heart surgery. She has a hole in her heart and they are going to open her up on the 13th. To say that it has been stressful would be an understatement. This is a fairly common heart defect, so that is the good news. They still have to open her up and stop her heart, and that is the bad news. She hasn't been able to gain any weight because her heart beats faster than normal, and that raises her metabolism. High metabolism means she needs to be fed every 2-3 hours, so that means no sleep for the past 5 months. Those with children know that tensions get a little high when you are running on fumes. Through this all, my wife has been a rock. She prays and really tries to keep a positive outlook. Our two year old girl really doesn't give us much of a break to think about anything else. It has been tough. I have thought about the nic biatch often. Most of the time I laugh it off, but sometimes she tries to bring me back in. I do not know if I will ever be completely free of her grasp. I do not think about dip like i used to. I only think about it when i am really stressed, and i feel like i am about to break. I still remind myself that it doesn't solve a problem, but just adds to it. I know that this group has really helped me in my times of need. I am glad that I joined KTC because I believe I would have caved without it. I thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers. I write because it just helps me think about things. Sometimes i need to put things into perspective. I am not looking for sympathy or attention. I am just using this as a little bit of therapy. Still going strong and still QLF. If I can do it, then anyone can.
Will say a prayer for you and your family. I hope the surgery is sucessful and will pray for a quick recovery.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Rawls on February 05, 2015, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Well now officially one week away from my 5 month old's scheduled open heart surgery. She has a hole in her heart and they are going to open her up on the 13th. To say that it has been stressful would be an understatement. This is a fairly common heart defect, so that is the good news. They still have to open her up and stop her heart, and that is the bad news. She hasn't been able to gain any weight because her heart beats faster than normal, and that raises her metabolism. High metabolism means she needs to be fed every 2-3 hours, so that means no sleep for the past 5 months. Those with children know that tensions get a little high when you are running on fumes. Through this all, my wife has been a rock. She prays and really tries to keep a positive outlook. Our two year old girl really doesn't give us much of a break to think about anything else. It has been tough. I have thought about the nic biatch often. Most of the time I laugh it off, but sometimes she tries to bring me back in. I do not know if I will ever be completely free of her grasp. I do not think about dip like i used to. I only think about it when i am really stressed, and i feel like i am about to break. I still remind myself that it doesn't solve a problem, but just adds to it. I know that this group has really helped me in my times of need. I am glad that I joined KTC because I believe I would have caved without it. I thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers. I write because it just helps me think about things. Sometimes i need to put things into perspective. I am not looking for sympathy or attention. I am just using this as a little bit of therapy. Still going strong and still QLF. If I can do it, then anyone can.
Will say a prayer for you and your family. I hope the surgery is sucessful and will pray for a quick recovery.
On it Bro.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: lighty7 on February 05, 2015, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: Rawls
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Well now officially one week away from my 5 month old's scheduled open heart surgery. She has a hole in her heart and they are going to open her up on the 13th. To say that it has been stressful would be an understatement. This is a fairly common heart defect, so that is the good news. They still have to open her up and stop her heart, and that is the bad news. She hasn't been able to gain any weight because her heart beats faster than normal, and that raises her metabolism. High metabolism means she needs to be fed every 2-3 hours, so that means no sleep for the past 5 months. Those with children know that tensions get a little high when you are running on fumes. Through this all, my wife has been a rock. She prays and really tries to keep a positive outlook. Our two year old girl really doesn't give us much of a break to think about anything else. It has been tough. I have thought about the nic biatch often. Most of the time I laugh it off, but sometimes she tries to bring me back in. I do not know if I will ever be completely free of her grasp. I do not think about dip like i used to. I only think about it when i am really stressed, and i feel like i am about to break. I still remind myself that it doesn't solve a problem, but just adds to it. I know that this group has really helped me in my times of need. I am glad that I joined KTC because I believe I would have caved without it. I thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers. I write because it just helps me think about things. Sometimes i need to put things into perspective. I am not looking for sympathy or attention. I am just using this as a little bit of therapy. Still going strong and still QLF. If I can do it, then anyone can.
Will say a prayer for you and your family. I hope the surgery is sucessful and will pray for a quick recovery.
On it Bro.


We all have our "everyday" problems as life/work/family stacks up and then you read something like this and shit gets very REAL.

Many prayers coming your way for successful surgery and quick recovery for your daughter. As a father of two kids under 5 I can't even imagine what you are going through.

Just know that your incredible strength has strengthened my quit and I'm proud to quit with you.

Lighty
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: rdad on February 05, 2015, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: lighty7
Quote from: Rawls
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: toogoodootgr
Well now officially one week away from my 5 month old's scheduled open heart surgery. She has a hole in her heart and they are going to open her up on the 13th. To say that it has been stressful would be an understatement. This is a fairly common heart defect, so that is the good news. They still have to open her up and stop her heart, and that is the bad news. She hasn't been able to gain any weight because her heart beats faster than normal, and that raises her metabolism. High metabolism means she needs to be fed every 2-3 hours, so that means no sleep for the past 5 months. Those with children know that tensions get a little high when you are running on fumes. Through this all, my wife has been a rock. She prays and really tries to keep a positive outlook. Our two year old girl really doesn't give us much of a break to think about anything else. It has been tough. I have thought about the nic biatch often. Most of the time I laugh it off, but sometimes she tries to bring me back in. I do not know if I will ever be completely free of her grasp. I do not think about dip like i used to. I only think about it when i am really stressed, and i feel like i am about to break. I still remind myself that it doesn't solve a problem, but just adds to it. I know that this group has really helped me in my times of need. I am glad that I joined KTC because I believe I would have caved without it. I thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers. I write because it just helps me think about things. Sometimes i need to put things into perspective. I am not looking for sympathy or attention. I am just using this as a little bit of therapy. Still going strong and still QLF. If I can do it, then anyone can.
Will say a prayer for you and your family. I hope the surgery is sucessful and will pray for a quick recovery.
On it Bro.


We all have our "everyday" problems as life/work/family stacks up and then you read something like this and shit gets very REAL.

Many prayers coming your way for successful surgery and quick recovery for your daughter. As a father of two kids under 5 I can't even imagine what you are going through.

Just know that your incredible strength has strengthened my quit and I'm proud to quit with you.

Lighty
I hope there are Newbies reading this. It shows what a real quitter does in the face of extreme stress. He just keeps quitting and using his tools learned here.
Prayers up for your daughter brother! Please keep us posted.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on February 06, 2015, 08:28:00 AM
Thank you all for the kind words and support. I am proud to quit with you all today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on March 03, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
Just a quick update on things. I copied and pasted this from a PM I replied to. I have had a few ask how my daughter is doing.

She is doing pretty good. She is gaining weight and eating a lot more. She has better color, and seems to be happier. The doctors warned us that it would be like having a newborn all over again, and they were right. She eats every two hours, and she has been up before 5:00 every morning. It has been brutal with no sleep for the past six months, but it will be a distant memory one day. The doctors have said everything looks fine, and we do not go back for another month. We just have to keep an eye on her, and make sure my 2 year old daughter doesn't try to pick her up (easier said than done). It takes around 6 weeks for the chest to fully heal where they split her open. So....short story long, things are going well. Now we tackle the next obstacle which will be her hearing. We have an appointment Friday to see if it has deteriorated any more. She is deaf in her right ear, and has moderate to severe loss in the left. We know she will eventually lose it, but there are cochlear implants that we will be looking into. Thanks to all for checking. The trip to the hospital really made me appreciate how good we have it. There were so many children in bad shape. There were so many families dealing with way more than I could imagine. It has completely change my outlook on life. I believe I am definitely better and stronger because of it. I am proud to be a part of this site. I was definitely humbled by all of your support and kind words. I do not really know how to thank you all, but I hope you all know that I appreciate it. This is a great group of people to be involved with.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on April 08, 2015, 12:24:00 PM
A few days past 300 and life is good. The family hasn't been sick in almost two weeks. That is a minor miracle in itself. I haven't had a craving for dip in ages. I went fishing with a friend the other day, and he dipped almost the entire time. I really didn't even think about the need for a dip. It is also turkey season in SC....This is when I used to pop one in a few minutes before daylight and keep a dip rolling until 10 or 11. Now, I just look at it as an afterthought. My baby girl is doing well and gaining weight after the heart surgery. The doctors have said everything is going perfectly. Next on the agenda will be cochlear implants, but that will be after she is a year old. It has been a hell of a year, but my quit is still strong. My motto is and will remain...Dip doesn't help the problem, but it just adds to it. Proud to quit with you all, and thank you for all the prayers and kind words.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 09, 2015, 08:28:00 AM
One year....I just went back and read my introduction, and all the stuff that has followed. It has definitely been the most stressful year of my life. Dip has really been the least of my worries. I have used this site to help me in many many ways over the year. I am sure that I would have caved had it not been for this site, and the sultans that I quit with every day. I just want to thank everyone for the support. I look forward to quitting with you all each and every day. If I can ever be of any help to anyone please just let me know.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Old Dog New Tricks on June 09, 2015, 11:43:00 AM
Very proud to quit with you and congrats on the 1 year. Equally important, I want to send some good vibes to you, your family and your daughter's health. Insurance should be easier to obtain after this year since you should now be considered disaster-proof. :) Congrats dude. ODNT - 13 Sept Samurai
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on June 09, 2015, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: Old
Very proud to quit with you and congrats on the 1 year. Equally important, I want to send some good vibes to you, your family and your daughter's health. Insurance should be easier to obtain after this year since you should now be considered disaster-proof. :) Congrats dude. ODNT - 13 Sept Samurai
Thanks bud, keep up the good work
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on September 23, 2015, 11:28:00 AM
It's been a while since I put anything on here. I am sitting on 472 days quit. I just wanted to pass a little story from yesterday. I had a stressful day yesterday. Nothing out of the ordinary, but just one of those days that piss you off. I was on the way home from work, and just got a huge craving for a dip. My mind was telling me that one dip wouldn't bother me. I have this habit kicked...Hell it's been nearly 500 days...what would one dip hurt? I managed to laugh it off, but I can honestly admit that I considered pulling into the gas station for "just one". Then, to top it off, I had a dip dream last night. I woke up about 4:00 a.m. covered in sweat. I just wanted to pass this along to anyone cruising the intro section. We are never really clear of the NIC bitch...she is hiding around every corner. I can't remember the last time I thought about dip, but something must have triggered it yesterday. All that being said, I am proud to quit with all of you today. Stay strong and QLF EDD.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CavMan83 on March 05, 2017, 08:37:00 AM
Man, you talk about musty old threads....had to dig a bit to find this!! But I digress....

ONE THOUSAND DAYS. FOUR DIGITS. A COMMA.

Any way you slice it, one seriously bad-assed accomplishment. Through all the ups and downs over the past 2.75 years, you've manned up on a daily basis, honored your promise, and stayed true to the Sultans. There should be a golf-clap emoji.....Nice work, Ed!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: toogoodootgr on March 08, 2017, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: CavMan83
Man, you talk about musty old threads....had to dig a bit to find this!! But I digress....

ONE THOUSAND DAYS. FOUR DIGITS. A COMMA.

Any way you slice it, one seriously bad-assed accomplishment. Through all the ups and downs over the past 2.75 years, you've manned up on a daily basis, honored your promise, and stayed true to the Sultans. There should be a golf-clap emoji.....Nice work, Ed!
Thank you for the kind words. I honestly couldn't have done it without you. Proud to be quit with you all