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My husband and I are seriously considering quitting chewing. So I started looking online and found this website. We are open to suggestions regarding cold turkey vs tapering down before the "quit date" and does fake chew help? As many we have tried to quit on several different occasions, obviously and sadly to no avail, very frustrating to have a little can rule ur life:( Suggestions will be greatly appreciated.:) thank u for ur time
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My husband and I are seriously considering quitting chewing. So I started looking online and found this website. We are open to suggestions regarding cold turkey vs tapering down before the "quit date" and does fake chew help? As many we have tried to quit on several different occasions, obviously and sadly to no avail, very frustrating to have a little can rule ur life:( Suggestions will be greatly appreciated.:) thank u for ur time
She Hunter and He Hunter-- There is no tapering down. I've been that route it doesn't work the quit date never really comes. you can go and read what I did in my intro My good Cave (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6243&st=165) I had planned to do just that and in the process found this website and started reading. The more I read the more I realized the only way to quit was cold turkey and now!!! I quit 103 days ago after almost 40 yrs. of addiction.
Quitting has got to be something that you really want and it has to be for you and only you. If not you will fail! There are 1000's of quitters here that quit everyday and return the next day to do it again.
Go to the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50) read about posting roll. Read Words of Wisdom, HOF speechs and intro pages to see what is going on here and how much quit is taking place. You will see people posting day 1 and others posting days in the 1000's all supporting each other. Like you we all have tried to stop numerous times but the quit rate here is truely impressive for those that stick with daily promises and supporting their fellow quitters.
As far as Fake Dip you will find as many opinions about it as there are people here. Some avoid it completely and go for seeds, coffee grounds, hard candy, mints etc. Others like me have used fake dip and found it useful, I accually had a fake dip in my mouth most of the first 2 months of quit. Then I started noticing that I hardly every used it. Now at 103 days I probably average using it 1 -2 times a week.
I promise you if you really want to quit and are dedicated to the daily role posting and take your promise serious you will be overwelmed by the success and support you will find here.
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Wt57 is right. There is no "tapering down". That is just a marketable, although innacurate, terminology. All it actually does is prolong the agony. There is one fact: to beat this thing, and addict will first go through withdrawal symtoms. The duration of those withdrawal symtoms is strictly up to the addict.
There are two options:
1. Quit cold turkey. Research shows that nicotine will be flushed from your body in about 72 hours.
2. Use patches, etc that promise a "taper down". Dependent on which method or brand that is used, this can take weeks or even months. Your body will inflict some form of withdrawal symptoms on you for the entire duration of that process. Then, in the end, at the very core of that system, you still have to eventually take that last step to completely stop using nicotine. At that point, nicotine will be flushed from your body in about 72 hours.
You do the math. Either way, you will have to suffer that 3-day period. WIth option 2, there is just a whole lot of suffering prior to that. And, by the time you get to the end of the "taper down", you could be posting double or triple-digit numbers for your days quit. Quit cold turkey today so that your bodies can immediately start the healing process.
I've tried, but I can't resist commenting on your opening statement. The word "considering" indicates that you are not yet committed to saving your lives. You probably already know how tough this process is. The only way you will be successful is to be 100% comitted to quitting. It has to be the foremost thing in your lives for at least the first month. Getting the correct mindset was half the battle for me.
I'm not trying to be tough or difficult, I'm just very passionate about what the nicotine addiction entails. I'm proud of my quit and hope to see you posting roll today. NOTE: you can't post roll here until you are completely nicotine free. No taperers can post. Reach out if either of you have questions or need any help. Assistance is only a PM away.
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My husband and I are seriously considering quitting chewing. So I started looking online and found this website. We are open to suggestions regarding cold turkey vs tapering down before the "quit date" and does fake chew help? As many we have tried to quit on several different occasions, obviously and sadly to no avail, very frustrating to have a little can rule ur life:( Suggestions will be greatly appreciated.:) thank u for ur time
Flush the crap, post roll and start getting your life back today... There is no tapering down and today is your "Quit date". There is a ton of support on this site and you can do this. Read everything on this site and get to quitting...
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Hey there He and She
I was like you in contemplating, but then just dropped it in the toilet one afternoon. And to say that was only 11 days ago, but I am through the worst of the symptoms (so they say), and feeling so much better.
So take the advice that you are seeing, go ahead and both of you just quit. Don't try, don't hope, just throw the shit away and quit.
We will be here and ready for when you do to offer the support, the KTC way.
I'll promise you my quit, now want you both to do the same.
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I think most people chooses to "taper down" instead of quit cold turkey for one reason, and one reason only---tapering down means they get to have another dip. Youll pat yourself on the back for going 15 minutes without a dip, then celebrate your acomplishmnent by packing a fatty. You are now in the bizzaro world of depriving yourself of nicotine, then rewarding yourself for that act of depravation with what? You got it---more nicotine. Tapering down means you get to "quit" without having to quit. Of course it is all addict logic.
What happens when you've "tapered" like hell? You have to decide to QUIT.
Skip the BS, just quit.
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My husband and I are seriously considering quitting chewing. So I started looking online and found this website. We are open to suggestions regarding cold turkey vs tapering down before the "quit date" and does fake chew help? As many we have tried to quit on several different occasions, obviously and sadly to no avail, very frustrating to have a little can rule ur life:( Suggestions will be greatly appreciated.:) thank u for ur time
Hello I wanted to tell everyone that responded to me yesterday thank you for your time and your consideration and your words I also have no idea what I am doing I've looked all over the website and theres a lot here and it's very interesting but I'm not sure how I post to a quit group it says to find a quit group but I don't know if I just pick? I'm also feeling very scared which surprises me a little bit but I'm afraid of failing I'm afraid of what if I can't do it what if I let myself down and everyone else what if I can't hold my tongue with my kids when it's not their fault their mom is detoxing. When I read some of you guys' post seeing you talk about just flush it down the toilet it cracks me up because it makes me remember the other day my almost 2-year-old open my brand-new can and spilled all over the floor so what I do I was on my hands and knees picking it all up trying to pick it all up. Lol I don't know if anyone else has had these same fears I know I'm going to hear a lot of suck it up after this one lol but it's the truth
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My net is dipping tonight really messed up! You will be in Oct quit group , you will reach 100 days in October! Go to the welcome center and read how To post roll stick around some one will help you better than me soon.
Check your inbox I can help on the phone better than online!I'll send my #
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My net is dipping tonight really messed up! You will be in Oct quit group , you will reach 100 days in October! Go to the welcome center and read how To post roll stick around some one will help you better than me soon.
Check your inbox I can help on the phone better than online!I'll send my #
Ok thanks I did just open and read instructions for newbies posting roll but I didn't know that I would be in Octobers quit group which makes perfect sense now. :)
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My husband and I are seriously considering quitting chewing.
Take considering out of the equasion and be serious with us about quitting! Welcome to the site!
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Hello I wanted to tell everyone that responded to me yesterday thank you for your time and your consideration and your words I also have no idea what I am doing I've looked all over the website and theres a lot here and it's very interesting but I'm not sure how I post to a quit group it says to find a quit group but I don't know if I just pick? I'm also feeling very scared which surprises me a little bit but I'm afraid of failing I'm afraid of what if I can't do it what if I let myself down and everyone else what if I can't hold my tongue with my kids when it's not their fault their mom is detoxing. When I read some of you guys' post seeing you talk about just flush it down the toilet it cracks me up because it makes me remember the other day my almost 2-year-old open my brand-new can and spilled all over the floor so what I do I was on my hands and knees picking it all up trying to pick it all up. Lol I don't know if anyone else has had these same fears I know I'm going to hear a lot of suck it up after this one lol but it's the truth
We all had those fears and are facing them head on everyday!!!!!!!!!!! One day at a time is doable, I can do it and so can you and the Hubby. The question is, DO YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH??? When you decide to post roll and make that promise it is a sacred oath and we take it VERY SERIOUS. When you quit you need to start gathering as many #'s of contacts as possible so you have someone to contact to yell at instead of the kids.
Your story of the spilled dip isn't uncommon, I remember countless times spilling it in the dirt or on a tractor floor and scooping up dirt and all. (shit the dirt was probably better for me anyway)
No need to keep lurking around JUST QUIT!!!
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Hello I wanted to tell everyone that responded to me yesterday thank you for your time and your consideration and your words I also have no idea what I am doing I've looked all over the website and theres a lot here and it's very interesting but I'm not sure how I post to a quit group it says to find a quit group but I don't know if I just pick? I'm also feeling very scared which surprises me a little bit but I'm afraid of failing I'm afraid of what if I can't do it what if I let myself down and everyone else what if I can't hold my tongue with my kids when it's not their fault their mom is detoxing. When I read some of you guys' post seeing you talk about just flush it down the toilet it cracks me up because it makes me remember the other day my almost 2-year-old open my brand-new can and spilled all over the floor so what I do I was on my hands and knees picking it all up trying to pick it all up. Lol I don't know if anyone else has had these same fears I know I'm going to hear a lot of suck it up after this one lol but it's the truth
We all had those fears and are facing them head on everyday!!!!!!!!!!! One day at a time is doable, I can do it and so can you and the Hubby. The question is, DO YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH??? When you decide to post roll and make that promise it is a sacred oath and we take it VERY SERIOUS. When you quit you need to start gathering as many #'s of contacts as possible so you have someone to contact to yell at instead of the kids.
Your story of the spilled dip isn't uncommon, I remember countless times spilling it in the dirt or on a tractor floor and scooping up dirt and all. (shit the dirt was probably better for me anyway)
No need to keep lurking around JUST QUIT!!!
You and your husband have to quit for you. Meaning, you have to quit for you, he has to quit for him. It's not for the kids, for each other, for your marriage, or for whatever. This has to be completely selfish and just for you. It won't work if you are doing for someone other than yourself. This may sound jacked up but as you progress from day to day, you will see that by doing this for yourself, you are helping those around you. Invariably in life, we let our guard down when we are surrounded by those who love us unconditionally. In quitting nicotine, we cannot let our guard down or get comfortable. When you guys are ready to give it a run, hop on over to Oct 12 and post roll. We'll be waiting for you.
I'll quit with you today, if you want it bad enough, you'll quit with you today as well.
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Hello I wanted to tell everyone that responded to me yesterday thank you for your time and your consideration and your words I also have no idea what I am doing I've looked all over the website and theres a lot here and it's very interesting but I'm not sure how I post to a quit group it says to find a quit group but I don't know if I just pick? I'm also feeling very scared which surprises me a little bit but I'm afraid of failing I'm afraid of what if I can't do it what if I let myself down and everyone else what if I can't hold my tongue with my kids when it's not their fault their mom is detoxing. When I read some of you guys' post seeing you talk about just flush it down the toilet it cracks me up because it makes me remember the other day my almost 2-year-old open my brand-new can and spilled all over the floor so what I do I was on my hands and knees picking it all up trying to pick it all up. Lol I don't know if anyone else has had these same fears I know I'm going to hear a lot of suck it up after this one lol but it's the truth
We all had those fears and are facing them head on everyday!!!!!!!!!!! One day at a time is doable, I can do it and so can you and the Hubby. The question is, DO YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH??? When you decide to post roll and make that promise it is a sacred oath and we take it VERY SERIOUS. When you quit you need to start gathering as many #'s of contacts as possible so you have someone to contact to yell at instead of the kids.
Your story of the spilled dip isn't uncommon, I remember countless times spilling it in the dirt or on a tractor floor and scooping up dirt and all. (shit the dirt was probably better for me anyway)
No need to keep lurking around JUST QUIT!!!
You and your husband have to quit for you. Meaning, you have to quit for you, he has to quit for him. It's not for the kids, for each other, for your marriage, or for whatever. This has to be completely selfish and just for you. It won't work if you are doing for someone other than yourself. This may sound jacked up but as you progress from day to day, you will see that by doing this for yourself, you are helping those around you. Invariably in life, we let our guard down when we are surrounded by those who love us unconditionally. In quitting nicotine, we cannot let our guard down or get comfortable. When you guys are ready to give it a run, hop on over to Oct 12 and post roll. We'll be waiting for you.
I'll quit with you today, if you want it bad enough, you'll quit with you today as well.
I know Eric's statement is used a lot around here, but I don't completely agree. That's what makes this place great. Even though our opinions may differ, we are all here for the same reason. Take what you need to stay quit and leave the rest.
I should probably quantify my first statement above before I get questioned about it. I say that because I didn't quit for me. We each have to find the strongest, sharpest tool we have to keep ourselves quit. For me personally, that is my kids. They are the absolute top reason for the way I live my life. If I am not a successful father, provider, and role model for them, then I fail. Period. Everything else is just details. One of them gave me a reality check on September 15 2010 that caused me to realize they accepted my addiction as being OK. FAIL! I have never..... NEVER felt more like a failure as a parent. I took the can out of my pocket, threw it away, and that was the end. It's worked for 668 days, so I think I've proven that it can be done.
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Hello I wanted to tell everyone that responded to me yesterday thank you for your time and your consideration and your words I also have no idea what I am doing I've looked all over the website and theres a lot here and it's very interesting but I'm not sure how I post to a quit group it says to find a quit group but I don't know if I just pick? I'm also feeling very scared which surprises me a little bit but I'm afraid of failing I'm afraid of what if I can't do it what if I let myself down and everyone else what if I can't hold my tongue with my kids when it's not their fault their mom is detoxing. When I read some of you guys' post seeing you talk about just flush it down the toilet it cracks me up because it makes me remember the other day my almost 2-year-old open my brand-new can and spilled all over the floor so what I do I was on my hands and knees picking it all up trying to pick it all up. Lol I don't know if anyone else has had these same fears I know I'm going to hear a lot of suck it up after this one lol but it's the truth
We all had those fears and are facing them head on everyday!!!!!!!!!!! One day at a time is doable, I can do it and so can you and the Hubby. The question is, DO YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH??? When you decide to post roll and make that promise it is a sacred oath and we take it VERY SERIOUS. When you quit you need to start gathering as many #'s of contacts as possible so you have someone to contact to yell at instead of the kids.
Your story of the spilled dip isn't uncommon, I remember countless times spilling it in the dirt or on a tractor floor and scooping up dirt and all. (shit the dirt was probably better for me anyway)
No need to keep lurking around JUST QUIT!!!
You and your husband have to quit for you. Meaning, you have to quit for you, he has to quit for him. It's not for the kids, for each other, for your marriage, or for whatever. This has to be completely selfish and just for you. It won't work if you are doing for someone other than yourself. This may sound jacked up but as you progress from day to day, you will see that by doing this for yourself, you are helping those around you. Invariably in life, we let our guard down when we are surrounded by those who love us unconditionally. In quitting nicotine, we cannot let our guard down or get comfortable. When you guys are ready to give it a run, hop on over to Oct 12 and post roll. We'll be waiting for you.
I'll quit with you today, if you want it bad enough, you'll quit with you today as well.
I know Eric's statement is used a lot around here, but I don't completely agree. That's what makes this place great. Even though our opinions may differ, we are all here for the same reason. Take what you need to stay quit and leave the rest.
I should probably quantify my first statement above before I get questioned about it. I say that because I didn't quit for me. We each have to find the strongest, sharpest tool we have to keep ourselves quit. For me personally, that is my kids. They are the absolute top reason for the way I live my life. If I am not a successful father, provider, and role model for them, then I fail. Period. Everything else is just details. One of them gave me a reality check on September 15 2010 that caused me to realize they accepted my addiction as being OK. FAIL! I have never..... NEVER felt more like a failure as a parent. I took the can out of my pocket, threw it away, and that was the end. It's worked for 668 days, so I think I've proven that it can be done.
I tend to be in the same corner as Rad! I definitely had other reasons to quit other than just myself. That being said the personal responsibility I feel as a husband, father and grandfather never was enough to solidify a quit before (even when my wife got diagnosed with MS). Finally it still came down to the fact that I wanted this for me, I was tired of the slavery! The pain of being an addict and feeling helpless to do anything about it was slowly killing me! The freedom is so worth it!!
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Hello I wanted to tell everyone that responded to me yesterday thank you for your time and your consideration and your words I also have no idea what I am doing I've looked all over the website and theres a lot here and it's very interesting but I'm not sure how I post to a quit group it says to find a quit group but I don't know if I just pick? I'm also feeling very scared which surprises me a little bit but I'm afraid of failing I'm afraid of what if I can't do it what if I let myself down and everyone else what if I can't hold my tongue with my kids when it's not their fault their mom is detoxing. When I read some of you guys' post seeing you talk about just flush it down the toilet it cracks me up because it makes me remember the other day my almost 2-year-old open my brand-new can and spilled all over the floor so what I do I was on my hands and knees picking it all up trying to pick it all up. Lol I don't know if anyone else has had these same fears I know I'm going to hear a lot of suck it up after this one lol but it's the truth
We all had those fears and are facing them head on everyday!!!!!!!!!!! One day at a time is doable, I can do it and so can you and the Hubby. The question is, DO YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH??? When you decide to post roll and make that promise it is a sacred oath and we take it VERY SERIOUS. When you quit you need to start gathering as many #'s of contacts as possible so you have someone to contact to yell at instead of the kids.
Your story of the spilled dip isn't uncommon, I remember countless times spilling it in the dirt or on a tractor floor and scooping up dirt and all. (shit the dirt was probably better for me anyway)
No need to keep lurking around JUST QUIT!!!
You and your husband have to quit for you. Meaning, you have to quit for you, he has to quit for him. It's not for the kids, for each other, for your marriage, or for whatever. This has to be completely selfish and just for you. It won't work if you are doing for someone other than yourself. This may sound jacked up but as you progress from day to day, you will see that by doing this for yourself, you are helping those around you. Invariably in life, we let our guard down when we are surrounded by those who love us unconditionally. In quitting nicotine, we cannot let our guard down or get comfortable. When you guys are ready to give it a run, hop on over to Oct 12 and post roll. We'll be waiting for you.
I'll quit with you today, if you want it bad enough, you'll quit with you today as well.
I know Eric's statement is used a lot around here, but I don't completely agree. That's what makes this place great. Even though our opinions may differ, we are all here for the same reason. Take what you need to stay quit and leave the rest.
I should probably quantify my first statement above before I get questioned about it. I say that because I didn't quit for me. We each have to find the strongest, sharpest tool we have to keep ourselves quit. For me personally, that is my kids. They are the absolute top reason for the way I live my life. If I am not a successful father, provider, and role model for them, then I fail. Period. Everything else is just details. One of them gave me a reality check on September 15 2010 that caused me to realize they accepted my addiction as being OK. FAIL! I have never..... NEVER felt more like a failure as a parent. I took the can out of my pocket, threw it away, and that was the end. It's worked for 668 days, so I think I've proven that it can be done.
I tend to be in the same corner as Rad! I definitely had other reasons to quit other than just myself. That being said the personal responsibility I feel as a husband, father and grandfather never was enough to solidify a quit before (even when my wife got diagnosed with MS). Finally it still came down to the fact that I wanted this for me, I was tired of the slavery! The pain of being an addict and feeling helpless to do anything about it was slowly killing me! The freedom is so worth it!!
I think it comes down to more you have to want it than quit just for yourself. Once you want it (and you'll know when you do), you'll quit.
Personally, I just woke up on 3/24/2012 and said "I'm not dipping any more", there was no plan, no thinking about it, I was just sick of being a slave. Here I am 112 days later nicotine free!
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Omg! I just posted my first role call and it was like everything that could have gone wrong did! My computer kept jumping around with crazy pop ups I have never seen that many pop ups in my life and then as soon as I got to wear I post did the whole cut ad paste thing ready to reply it froze up! So I used my almost dead phone. The snares of the devil, Apparently he's on the nics side, just one more reason to quit in my opinion!
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Omg! I just posted my first role call and it was like everything that could have gone wrong did! My computer kept jumping around with crazy pop ups I have never seen that many pop ups in my life and then as soon as I got to wear I post did the whole cut ad paste thing ready to reply it froze up! So I used my almost dead phone. The snares of the devil, Apparently he's on the nics side, just one more reason to quit in my opinion!
Ok, well, show up everyday and do it again...it could save your life.
Posting roll is sacred, and is a proven method to quit. And like your quit, it does get easier with time
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Omg! I just posted my first role call and it was like everything that could have gone wrong did! My computer kept jumping around with crazy pop ups I have never seen that many pop ups in my life and then as soon as I got to wear I post did the whole cut ad paste thing ready to reply it froze up! So I used my almost dead phone. The snares of the devil, Apparently he's on the nics side, just one more reason to quit in my opinion!
Ok, well, show up everyday and do it again...it could save your life.
Posting roll is sacred, and is a proven method to quit. And like your quit, it does get easier with time
She hunter as I remember the hubby dips too! He not ready? If not that's gonna make it rough on you but you can do it!! Post that promise keep it and return the next day to repeat! Now don't you be kissing the hubby when he's dippin that would be considered introducing nicotine into your system..
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Omg! I just posted my first role call and it was like everything that could have gone wrong did! My computer kept jumping around with crazy pop ups I have never seen that many pop ups in my life and then as soon as I got to wear I post did the whole cut ad paste thing ready to reply it froze up! So I used my almost dead phone. The snares of the devil, Apparently he's on the nics side, just one more reason to quit in my opinion!
Ok, well, show up everyday and do it again...it could save your life.
Posting roll is sacred, and is a proven method to quit. And like your quit, it does get easier with time
She hunter as I remember the hubby dips too! He not ready? If not that's gonna make it rough on you but you can do it!! Post that promise keep it and return the next day to repeat! Now don't you be kissing the hubby when he's dippin that would be considered introducing nicotine into your system..
Yes you are right You rememered correctly, My husband did quit, the day before me and is doing well. He just doesn't know how ktc would work for him because is out of service on pack trips a lot In the summer and will be gone from aug thru oct with sheep and elk hunters, no service! So he's on his own sorta, I'm doing it to obviously, so that helps cuz Theres nobody can laying around.
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Omg! I just posted my first role call and it was like everything that could have gone wrong did! My computer kept jumping around with crazy pop ups I have never seen that many pop ups in my life and then as soon as I got to wear I post did the whole cut ad paste thing ready to reply it froze up! So I used my almost dead phone. The snares of the devil, Apparently he's on the nics side, just one more reason to quit in my opinion!
Ok, well, show up everyday and do it again...it could save your life.
Posting roll is sacred, and is a proven method to quit. And like your quit, it does get easier with time
She hunter as I remember the hubby dips too! He not ready? If not that's gonna make it rough on you but you can do it!! Post that promise keep it and return the next day to repeat! Now don't you be kissing the hubby when he's dippin that would be considered introducing nicotine into your system..
Yes you are right You rememered correctly, My husband did quit, the day before me and is doing well. He just doesn't know how ktc would work for him because is out of service on pack trips a lot In the summer and will be gone from aug thru oct with sheep and elk hunters, no service! So he's on his own sorta, I'm doing it to obviously, so that helps cuz Theres nobody can laying around.
Congrats on posting roll and congrats to the hubby as well. Just take it one day at a time. Glad to see you here, was wondering how it would work out for you both