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Title: Intro
Post by: RotPres on November 17, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
Hello All,
I am new to this site. New to forums as well. I am 20 hours dip free. I am really worried about taken out verbal aggression on my family. Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: Wt57 on November 17, 2013, 11:52:00 PM
Quote from: RotPres
Hello All,
I am new to this site. New to forums as well. I am 20 hours dip free. I am really worried about taken out verbal aggression on my family. Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Bring your aggression here! There's a shit load of aggression going on. Rage with us, but make sure you post roll and make a promise 1st!
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: wmcatty on November 18, 2013, 01:25:00 AM
Welcome to the KTC quit train Rotpres. We are over 17,000 members strong and will support you all the way. What we do is provide you with the tools to quit and help you along that rough patch of track. We will be there for you every step of the way to freedom. We will be there when you are hurting, when you are in the suck, when you feel like raging, venting or just talking to someone on the phone. Around here, we call that Brotherhood.

Joining us means you will do a few things. First and foremost, you will post Roll. Roll is your daily promise to yourself and all of your new brothers and sisters that you will not use tobacco in any form that day. You will post your name and the number of days you are quit each day in the February 2014 quit group. Each and every day you will post your promise. No exceptions. That is the price of admission to KTC. Nothing more and nothing less. The reason you are put in February is that will be the month that you will celebrate being 100 days free of nicotineÂ…your Hall of Fame date.

Now that you know the basics, it is time to read all you can on this site. Go to the welcome center and that will get you started. Post roll and look up at your inbox (1). That is a personal message from me with my telephone number. You will need lots of telephone numbers, as your quit brothers are your life line. We expect you to vent and rage in the beginning. Another tool is Live Chat...you can rage, vent and let it all hang out for hours...we expect it in the beginning. Remember, it is better to vent here and at us than at home and at your loved ones. Congrats on taking control of your life. Wayne
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: MN_Ben on November 18, 2013, 01:50:00 AM
Quote from: RotPres
Hello All,
I am new to this site. New to forums as well. I am 20 hours dip free. I am really worried about taken out verbal aggression on my family. Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Also warn them.. Like I did

Warn them that this time isn't like any other time you "tried" and that you have actually quit this time.. Let them know what you are going through..

Be Honest

Dip made all of us dirty liars. I was.. I am just guessing you were too..

I quit with you
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: zam on November 18, 2013, 10:21:00 AM
Congrats on a great decision. I saw you posted up a day 1, so you've taken nicotine off the table for today. And you CAN do today. Guaranteed. Hang tough brother, it's worth it.

I suggest you spend a LOT of time reading the stuff on this site. You'll find gems all over. This stuff will open your eyes to the lies and BS you've told yourself about nicotine. Make sure you read the SPOUSAL SUPPORT information,  (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/)and ask your wife to read it. Vent in your quit group, or here, whenever your anxiety starts to build.
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: Scowick65 on November 18, 2013, 10:51:00 AM
Quote from: Zam
Congrats on a great decision. I saw you posted up a day 1, so you've taken nicotine off the table for today. And you CAN do today. Guaranteed. Hang tough brother, it's worth it.

I suggest you spend a LOT of time reading the stuff on this site. You'll find gems all over. This stuff will open your eyes to the lies and BS you've told yourself about nicotine. Make sure you read the SPOUSAL SUPPORT information,  (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/)and ask your wife to read it. Vent in your quit group, or here, whenever your anxiety starts to build.
'clap'
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: Mthomas3824 on November 18, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
You are going to need to rage, vent and sometimes your issues are irrational.

Your family doesn't deserve the fight you wage on nicotine. They need to see and feel the new improved man.

Rage and fight here. You will get so much aggression out. Some people call this site a bunch of cyber bullies.

I think it is group therapy. We all are fighting the same demon and some people I raged and battled here are now my angels.

Use this site so you can be nicer and a better person in your real world.
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: iizphilister on November 18, 2013, 01:26:00 PM
Welcome to the family!

My advise? Get your spouse on the site, let her look around. Let her know what you are going to be going through.

Quit hard, and QUIT for Life!
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: Pinched on November 18, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
You have been given great advice. Your question about rage has forced me to respond specifically to that.

See I have always been first to fight and ask questions later, I am a retired Marine, I have always had rage problems my entire life.

I quit 127 days ago and no one has been physically harmed in the making of this quit.

I use a heavy bag to hit when I get real mad, I exercise, and I use the tools on here (text, chat, etc...).

Vent on here, use the people here to help you daily. Never ever rage someone who had no bearing on your becoming an addict. Get pissed at Big Tobacco and the Nicotine Bitch and all their fucking ads. Say fuck you to the people that got you started.

Then turn around and say "I Love You" to those who love you unconditionally and help support your quit.

My favorite vent that I did was dumping a buddy's can when he decided to offer me a dip knowing I was quitting.

Pinched
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: wmcatty on November 19, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
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RotPres - day 3 - I've been hiding from my family to avoid displaying aggression, My 4 year daughter told my wife that they should buy me some dip after school. - - - A 4 year old knows I am addicted and how I act without it. I am 35 and ashamed
You posted the quoted statement above in your quit group today. I thought it would also be appropriate to post it here in your intro thread as a lifelong reminder of how insightful a 4 year old child can be and how she perceives her Dadddy's addiction. Stay as focused and committed as possible and remember the fog will lift soon. Direct that rage at us and not your loved ones. Pinched set forth a pretty solid program for helping with the anger and rage that works for him...have you given it any thought in lieu of the alternative? This quit program will work for you if you use all the tools available. We are here to help but you must sack up and follow through on implementing your quit plan. There is no shame in seeking help for a problem that needs help to overcome. Give that little girl a big kiss from all of your brothers at KTC.
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: Jlud007 on November 19, 2013, 01:27:00 PM
Quote from: wmcatty
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RotPres - day 3 - I've been hiding from my family to avoid displaying aggression, My 4 year daughter told my wife that they should buy me some dip after school. - - - A 4 year old knows I am addicted and how I act without it. I am 35 and ashamed
You posted the quoted statement above in your quit group today. I thought it would also be appropriate to post it here in your intro thread as a lifelong reminder of how insightful a 4 year old child can be and how she perceives her Dadddy's addiction. Stay as focused and committed as possible and remember the fog will lift soon. Direct that rage at us and not your loved ones. Pinched set forth a pretty solid program for helping with the anger and rage that works for him...have you given it any thought in lieu of the alternative? This quit program will work for you if you use all the tools available. We are here to help but you must sack up and follow through on implementing your quit plan. There is no shame in seeking help for a problem that needs help to overcome. Give that little girl a big kiss from all of your brothers at KTC.
I can't add a whole lot besides you've been pointed in the right direction already. Get on the site here to rage and vent, get your spouse involved, let her know you've got an army of quitters behind you. Most importantly treat your loved ones with care while you're defogging, focus your anger on the vile poisonous weed that got you into this mess.

I'll quit with you all damn day!
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: traumagnet on November 19, 2013, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: wmcatty
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RotPres - day 3 - I've been hiding from my family to avoid displaying aggression, My 4 year daughter told my wife that they should buy me some dip after school. - - - A 4 year old knows I am addicted and how I act without it. I am 35 and ashamed
You posted the quoted statement above in your quit group today. I thought it would also be appropriate to post it here in your intro thread as a lifelong reminder of how insightful a 4 year old child can be and how she perceives her Dadddy's addiction. Stay as focused and committed as possible and remember the fog will lift soon. Direct that rage at us and not your loved ones. Pinched set forth a pretty solid program for helping with the anger and rage that works for him...have you given it any thought in lieu of the alternative? This quit program will work for you if you use all the tools available. We are here to help but you must sack up and follow through on implementing your quit plan. There is no shame in seeking help for a problem that needs help to overcome. Give that little girl a big kiss from all of your brothers at KTC.
I can't add a whole lot besides you've been pointed in the right direction already. Get on the site here to rage and vent, get your spouse involved, let her know you've got an army of quitters behind you. Most importantly treat your loved ones with care while you're defogging, focus your anger on the vile poisonous weed that got you into this mess.

I'll quit with you all damn day!
Check your inbox
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: zam on November 19, 2013, 02:05:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: wmcatty
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RotPres - day 3 - I've been hiding from my family to avoid displaying aggression, My 4 year daughter told my wife that they should buy me some dip after school. - - - A 4 year old knows I am addicted and how I act without it. I am 35 and ashamed
You posted the quoted statement above in your quit group today. I thought it would also be appropriate to post it here in your intro thread as a lifelong reminder of how insightful a 4 year old child can be and how she perceives her Dadddy's addiction. Stay as focused and committed as possible and remember the fog will lift soon. Direct that rage at us and not your loved ones. Pinched set forth a pretty solid program for helping with the anger and rage that works for him...have you given it any thought in lieu of the alternative? This quit program will work for you if you use all the tools available. We are here to help but you must sack up and follow through on implementing your quit plan. There is no shame in seeking help for a problem that needs help to overcome. Give that little girl a big kiss from all of your brothers at KTC.
I can't add a whole lot besides you've been pointed in the right direction already. Get on the site here to rage and vent, get your spouse involved, let her know you've got an army of quitters behind you. Most importantly treat your loved ones with care while you're defogging, focus your anger on the vile poisonous weed that got you into this mess.

I'll quit with you all damn day!
Check your inbox
Damn...yea...that's tough to face. But turn it around and think about what a 24-year-old would think (but wouldn't say) when they realize that you: Sat in the back of the auditorium at recital so you could sneak a dip....or the reason you didn't play board games with her and her friends in because you couldn't go that long without a dip...or that you were in the bathroom "taking a dump" when she was nervous and needed support before the wedding. etc etc.
You have changed your future...it's sad to look back at times, but don't forget to look forward. As for you being "out of sorts", talk to them. Or point them to the SPOUSE SUPPORT PAGE (see below). It's not fair to not tell them what's going on and why this is worth it. Your current "symptoms" will pass. RAGE here. VENT here. Your anxiety will pass. Your rage will pass. It gets better. What you are doing is worth it. STAY THE COURSE. Take it from someone who didn't "get it" until the kids were out of the house. Stay quit brother. And thanks for that post.

PM me if you need a number. you can text obscenities and rage via text to get it out of you system.
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: Scowick65 on November 19, 2013, 02:24:00 PM
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: wmcatty
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RotPres - day 3 - I've been hiding from my family to avoid displaying aggression, My 4 year daughter told my wife that they should buy me some dip after school. - - - A 4 year old knows I am addicted and how I act without it. I am 35 and ashamed
You posted the quoted statement above in your quit group today. I thought it would also be appropriate to post it here in your intro thread as a lifelong reminder of how insightful a 4 year old child can be and how she perceives her Dadddy's addiction. Stay as focused and committed as possible and remember the fog will lift soon. Direct that rage at us and not your loved ones. Pinched set forth a pretty solid program for helping with the anger and rage that works for him...have you given it any thought in lieu of the alternative? This quit program will work for you if you use all the tools available. We are here to help but you must sack up and follow through on implementing your quit plan. There is no shame in seeking help for a problem that needs help to overcome. Give that little girl a big kiss from all of your brothers at KTC.
I can't add a whole lot besides you've been pointed in the right direction already. Get on the site here to rage and vent, get your spouse involved, let her know you've got an army of quitters behind you. Most importantly treat your loved ones with care while you're defogging, focus your anger on the vile poisonous weed that got you into this mess.

I'll quit with you all damn day!
Check your inbox
Damn...yea...that's tough to face. But turn it around and think about what a 24-year-old would think (but wouldn't say) when they realize that you: Sat in the back of the auditorium at recital so you could sneak a dip....or the reason you didn't play board games with her and her friends in because you couldn't go that long without a dip...or that you were in the bathroom "taking a dump" when she was nervous and needed support before the wedding. etc etc.
You have changed your future...it's sad to look back at times, but don't forget to look forward. As for you being "out of sorts", talk to them. Or point them to the SPOUSE SUPPORT PAGE (see below). It's not fair to not tell them what's going on and why this is worth it. Your current "symptoms" will pass. RAGE here. VENT here. Your anxiety will pass. Your rage will pass. It gets better. What you are doing is worth it. STAY THE COURSE. Take it from someone who didn't "get it" until the kids were out of the house. Stay quit brother. And thanks for that post.

PM me if you need a number. you can text obscenities and rage via text to get it out of you system.
No reason to be ashamed any longer. You are a quitter. Soon, other nicotine users will be looking to you for guidance.

Your future is simple. Focus on today. One day at a time. Everything else will fall into place.
Title: Re: Intro
Post by: Dougie on November 19, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: wmcatty
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RotPres - day 3 - I've been hiding from my family to avoid displaying aggression, My 4 year daughter told my wife that they should buy me some dip after school. - - - A 4 year old knows I am addicted and how I act without it. I am 35 and ashamed
You posted the quoted statement above in your quit group today. I thought it would also be appropriate to post it here in your intro thread as a lifelong reminder of how insightful a 4 year old child can be and how she perceives her Dadddy's addiction. Stay as focused and committed as possible and remember the fog will lift soon. Direct that rage at us and not your loved ones. Pinched set forth a pretty solid program for helping with the anger and rage that works for him...have you given it any thought in lieu of the alternative? This quit program will work for you if you use all the tools available. We are here to help but you must sack up and follow through on implementing your quit plan. There is no shame in seeking help for a problem that needs help to overcome. Give that little girl a big kiss from all of your brothers at KTC.
I can't add a whole lot besides you've been pointed in the right direction already. Get on the site here to rage and vent, get your spouse involved, let her know you've got an army of quitters behind you. Most importantly treat your loved ones with care while you're defogging, focus your anger on the vile poisonous weed that got you into this mess.

I'll quit with you all damn day!
Check your inbox
Damn...yea...that's tough to face. But turn it around and think about what a 24-year-old would think (but wouldn't say) when they realize that you: Sat in the back of the auditorium at recital so you could sneak a dip....or the reason you didn't play board games with her and her friends in because you couldn't go that long without a dip...or that you were in the bathroom "taking a dump" when she was nervous and needed support before the wedding. etc etc.
You have changed your future...it's sad to look back at times, but don't forget to look forward. As for you being "out of sorts", talk to them. Or point them to the SPOUSE SUPPORT PAGE (see below). It's not fair to not tell them what's going on and why this is worth it. Your current "symptoms" will pass. RAGE here. VENT here. Your anxiety will pass. Your rage will pass. It gets better. What you are doing is worth it. STAY THE COURSE. Take it from someone who didn't "get it" until the kids were out of the house. Stay quit brother. And thanks for that post.

PM me if you need a number. you can text obscenities and rage via text to get it out of you system.
No reason to be ashamed any longer. You are a quitter. Soon, other nicotine users will be looking to you for guidance.

Your future is simple. Focus on today. One day at a time. Everything else will fall into place.
The only thing that I can add to this is:

Thousands of other quitters have had to deal with the quit rage, myself included. I am not special but I got through that stage of quit by doing it one day at a time. Constantly remind yourself to stay on top of your anger and you will get through it. If it becomes too much get on here and vent- go to live chat and vent- go outside and have yourself a good ole primal scream!

Nicotine will not help you. Time without Nicotine is the cure. This is a stage of the quit and it will pass.

If you want a number PM me.