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Title: One more time...
Post by: drew88 on April 08, 2014, 09:51:00 PM
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: drew88 on April 08, 2014, 09:51:00 PM
I know that I am going to get lectured and catch shit from everyone, but i need help quitting. It is too hard on my own. I was here, back in 2009. I did really well, even hit my HOF. But that didn't last. I caved, for 4 years. I disappointed my friends and family. I let down everyone on this site who offered help, and for that I am sorry. I am back though and this is my last attempt at quitting. I refuse to be anything but successful this go around. I hate wasting money and am not happy with the condition my health and mouth is in and I am changing it. Today is my day 3. Now, go ahead and let me have it. I know it is coming....
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: adam1974 on April 08, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
I don't think you should put your HOF in your signature until you make it there.

1. How did you fail last time?
2. What are you going to do differently this time?
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: drew88 on April 08, 2014, 10:01:00 PM
I distanced myself from the group and other people in my life who were cheering me on in my quit. I knew they wouldn't approve, but did it anyway.

Not only did I come back here, knowing the ass chewing I would get, but I also live in a different city than before, closer to some family and friends that would rather beat me than see me go back to that stuff. I need to rely on those around me to help.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Evil_Won on April 09, 2014, 02:00:00 AM
That answer sucks

Hmmmm. I am getting mixed vibes here... Half "poor me" and half "poor me". Am I wrong?

You had a HOF Speech (which I moved to the trash), but no introduction until this brief "woe is me". Aside from the money and condition of your mouth do you really want to quit? Maybe stop for a month or so until you'll mouth stops hurting then imagine the rush of that first dip. Heaven?

No? You want to quit and not stop? Well, what is your plan? Stop staring at your shoes and kicking rocks. Look up, hold your head high, and fucking quit once. Now. You need a plan and the plan starts with figuring out what went wrong last time.

1) What happened?
2) How did it happen?
3) What are you going to do different this time?

Don't just give some cookie-cutter bullshit answers either. Stop and think. Search deep down into your very being and figure this shit out. The answers are you you so that you don't repeat them, but also for those in your new group, July 2014 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9756). Maybe you can save one of them with your past failure.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: B-loMatt on April 09, 2014, 08:16:00 AM
Do you want to quit for you or your family and friends? If you want to quit for yourself get active on this site and with your new quit group, and follow the path. If you are quitting for anyone other than yourself, then good luck...
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: E&C's Dad on April 09, 2014, 09:04:00 AM
Quote from: Evil_Won
That answer sucks

Hmmmm. I am getting mixed vibes here... Half "poor me" and half "poor me". Am I wrong?

You had a HOF Speech (which I moved to the trash), but no introduction until this brief "woe is me". Aside from the money and condition of your mouth do you really want to quit? Maybe stop for a month or so until you'll mouth stops hurting then imagine the rush of that first dip. Heaven?

No? You want to quit and not stop? Well, what is your plan? Stop staring at your shoes and kicking rocks. Look up, hold your head high, and fucking quit once. Now. You need a plan and the plan starts with figuring out what went wrong last time.

1) What happened?
2) How did it happen?
3) What are you going to do different this time?

Don't just give some cookie-cutter bullshit answers either. Stop and think. Search deep down into your very being and figure this shit out. The answers are you you so that you don't repeat them, but also for those in your new group, July 2014 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9756). Maybe you can save one of them with your past failure.
^^^^This

I feel woe is me as well. That fact that you live somewhere else doesn't mean shit. Its just another excuse when you fail will it be their fault. Moving Does Not Solve Your Problems!
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Kjstout on April 09, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
I agree with Evil that the entire "intro" is garbage. I want to quit for my family and friends, I want to quit because I'm tired of wasting money, blah blah blah! To me it doesn't seem as if you are prepared to attempt another quit. WTF does moving to a different city have to do with anything? Is it a nicotine free city? Is it a trigger free city? It ultimately comes down to only one thing, your resolve and integrity to quit with us on a daily basis.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: drew88 on April 09, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
Those are the reasons I am quitting. I don't have a wife, no kids. Don't even have a girlfriend. If quitting for my friends and family is a bullshit excuse, than obviously nothing is going to be good enough. I understand being pissed at me caving and wanting to come back. But if my reasons for quitting aren't good enough for yall or you think I am full of crap, than I will leave and quit on my own. Giving me crap is understandable, but obviously no one here believes anything I have to say so what is the point of me even being here? I will come back in 100 days and prove everyone single person here wrong. Maybe then I will be good enough to be apart of this group...
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Etxaggie on April 09, 2014, 10:37:00 PM
Quote from: drew88
Those are the reasons I am quitting. I don't have a wife, no kids. Don't even have a girlfriend. If quitting for my friends and family is a bullshit excuse, than obviously nothing is going to be good enough. I understand being pissed at me caving and wanting to come back. But if my reasons for quitting aren't good enough for yall or you think I am full of crap, than I will leave and quit on my own. Giving me crap is understandable, but obviously no one here believes anything I have to say so what is the point of me even being here? I will come back in 100 days and prove everyone single person here wrong. Maybe then I will be good enough to be apart of this group...
Drew-

I think everyone wants to know how/where your quit is rooted. You have to understand that we see a lot of people come through here  the "vets" have a pretty good idea of the red flags to look for. I'm by no means a "vet", but quitting for family/friends normally doesn't work. YOU are important, so quit for YOU. It starts w/ a decision to quit because YOU want to quit. As a result, your family/friends will be grateful.

It may seem to be a small difference, but the difference is HUGE.

If you need a contact, shoot me a PM. I'll quit w/ you.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: drew88 on April 09, 2014, 11:19:00 PM
Moving to a new city is a positive for me. It gets me away from all my friends back home that dip. being around dippers makes it 10 times more difficult when trying to quit. I am quitting because my mouth is always hurting. I am quitting because girls dont want a man in his 20s with missing teeth. I am trying to better my life and make sure I have a long life to live. Dying of cancer is not something I want to do, especially because of something I could have prevented, so I quit. I quit today, and I will quit tomorrow. My family and friends are behind me and I dont want to let them down either. If that still isn't a good enough reason, let me know and I will quietly leave. With or without this group, I will quit for good. Just always easier when you have a group of people behind you to push you when you need it.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Mogul on April 10, 2014, 12:27:00 AM
Quote from: drew88
Moving to a new city is a positive for me. It gets me away from all my friends back home that dip. being around dippers makes it 10 times more difficult when trying to quit. I am quitting because my mouth is always hurting. I am quitting because girls dont want a man in his 20s with missing teeth. I am trying to better my life and make sure I have a long life to live. Dying of cancer is not something I want to do, especially because of something I could have prevented, so I quit. I quit today, and I will quit tomorrow. My family and friends are behind me and I dont want to let them down either. If that still isn't a good enough reason, let me know and I will quietly leave. With or without this group, I will quit for good. Just always easier when you have a group of people behind you to push you when you need it.
OK, I will be the asshole. Quit with your family and leave us the fuck alone. YOu have no desire to quit for the reasons that can sustain that quit. I will be the dirtbag that calls you out.. You are not for real. bye.

Mogul (asshole)..
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: drew88 on April 10, 2014, 12:33:00 AM
Obviously you couldnt read the real reasons behind my quit and not letting down my family was a plus. But fine, I will leave. good luck to everyone.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Mogul on April 10, 2014, 12:45:00 AM
Quote from: drew88
Obviously you couldnt read the real reasons behind my quit and not letting down my family was a plus. But fine, I will leave. good luck to everyone.
bye, just remember "it was all Mogul's fault". He is the reason you are such a failure. God, knows we cannot stand on our own feet, we must meet everyone's approval before we can do that. Let's just tip our hands in gay fashion and blow it all off to the government. "they" did it.

Give me a break douche bag. If you want to quit, grab your fucking ball sack and be a fucking man and quit. Maybe you should run out and buy a box of tampons instead. Got your feeling's hurt? sorry, I aint got time for that, the rent is too damn high.


Mogul
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: LK16 on April 10, 2014, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: drew88
Obviously you couldnt read the real reasons behind my quit and not letting down my family was a plus. But fine, I will leave. good luck to everyone.
Hope you don't quit on your quit when things get tough. Kinda like your quitting on KTC when some people give you a little heat.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Diesel2112 on April 10, 2014, 01:02:00 AM
Quote from: drew88
I know that I am going to get lectured and catch shit from everyone, but i need help quitting. It is too hard on my own. I was here, back in 2009. I did really well, even hit my HOF. But that didn't last. I caved, for 4 years. I disappointed my friends and family. I let down everyone on this site who offered help, and for that I am sorry. I am back though and this is my last attempt at quitting. I refuse to be anything but successful this go around. I hate wasting money and am not happy with the condition my health and mouth is in and I am changing it. Today is my day 3. Now, go ahead and let me have it. I know it is coming....
You did "really well"? you've been on a 4 year bender....

Of course it's too hard on your own, so pull your head out of your ass and stop threatening to leave and to come back in 100 days to "prove us wrong". Even if you did, I think you've shown that 100 days isn't a cure mark.

Fuck your family, fuck your friends, fuck your dirty feeling mouth, fuck quitting because chicks don't dig guys who dip, blah blah blah...

Quit because you WANT to. Quit for YOU.

Your friends and family will still be that, even if you fail. Stop using them as a status quo reason to quit, and start making this more about YOU.

Yo need us. You're momma ain't gonna kick you in the balls if you cave, but we will. Your best butt buddy who doesn't know the pains of addiction won't be able to help you through a funk or tremendous crave, but we will. Some 20 year old hottie isn't going to know if you skipped roll and hold your ass to the fire for it, but we will.

We are addicts, bro....just like you. We can see right through your addict rationale. Quitting for others doesn't cut the mustard. You gotta do it for you.

And if you threaten to leave...someone here will call your ass out. Mogul did, and what you really are going to leave because of ONE guy????

Where's your fucking balls??? Where's your WANT???

Stop spouting off and start posting roll and +1's.

That's the only real way to show you WANT to quit. Anything else is just talk.

Don't be bitch and leave. Because you know damn well you won't make it. You said so yourself.

Enough talk. Just fucking quit.

Quit on...
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: drew88 on April 10, 2014, 01:08:00 AM
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Mogul on April 10, 2014, 01:20:00 AM
Quote from: drew88
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
bye, good luck.. you are definitely better on your own. Because with that kind of attitude, no one here can help you. door, ass, you get the picture.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Diesel2112 on April 10, 2014, 01:20:00 AM
Quote from: drew88
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
Look. Nobody wants to see you boomerang like you did before. We just want to make sure you get your head straight before you do this again.

Actions speak louder than words. So how about you just post role and get the ball rolling.

Do that and I'm here for you 24/7/365 and so will many others.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Mogul on April 10, 2014, 01:35:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: drew88
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
Look. Nobody wants to see you boomerang like you did before. We just want to make sure you get your head straight before you do this again.

Actions speak louder than words. So how about you just post role and get the ball rolling.

Do that and I'm here for you 24/7/365 and so will many others.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Mogul on April 10, 2014, 01:58:00 AM
Quote from: mogul
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: drew88
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
Look. Nobody wants to see you boomerang like you did before. We just want to make sure you get your head straight before you do this again.

Actions speak louder than words. So how about you just post role and get the ball rolling.

Do that and I'm here for you 24/7/365 and so will many others.
ok, you gonna quit or do you want to make enemies?/ Or both? Quit is a state of mind that we enter that no one, not even family, not even pussy can take away. they have pussy, we have fortitude. Yes, we are outmatched, but we can beat dip. what say yoyu???
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: adam1974 on April 10, 2014, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: drew88
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
You said it yourself. You know you are going to take some shit. Stop fucking crying for one second and think.

You are going to get shit until you post roll, engage in your group, and start the road to quit.

You got to HOF before? Great; help your group get there again.

Then I have a really good idea: Don't stop posting roll, EVER. You can't be trusted. You're an addict. And at this stage, a whiny one too. But that will probably pass if you be a man and stick to the program.

Coming back in 100 days to prove us wrong is the most juvenile thing I have ever heard.

How about posting 100 days in a row to prove yourself right? And then post the next 100 days in a row. And repeat. Until you die nicotine free in 80 years. That's the 290th floor.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: Diesel2112 on April 10, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
Quote from: drew88
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
You said it yourself. You know you are going to take some shit. Stop fucking crying for one second and think.

You are going to get shit until you post roll, engage in your group, and start the road to quit.

You got to HOF before? Great; help your group get there again.

Then I have a really good idea: Don't stop posting roll, EVER. You can't be trusted. You're an addict. And at this stage, a whiny one too. But that will probably pass if you be a man and stick to the program.

Coming back in 100 days to prove us wrong is the most juvenile thing I have ever heard.

How about posting 100 days in a row to prove yourself right? And then post the next 100 days in a row. And repeat. Until you die nicotine free in 80 years. That's the 290th floor.
Didn't see his name on roll today. Probably still feeling sorry for himself.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: slinger on April 11, 2014, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: adam1974
Quote from: drew88
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
You said it yourself. You know you are going to take some shit. Stop fucking crying for one second and think.

You are going to get shit until you post roll, engage in your group, and start the road to quit.

You got to HOF before? Great; help your group get there again.

Then I have a really good idea: Don't stop posting roll, EVER. You can't be trusted. You're an addict. And at this stage, a whiny one too. But that will probably pass if you be a man and stick to the program.

Coming back in 100 days to prove us wrong is the most juvenile thing I have ever heard.

How about posting 100 days in a row to prove yourself right? And then post the next 100 days in a row. And repeat. Until you die nicotine free in 80 years. That's the 290th floor.
Didn't see his name on roll today. Probably still feeling sorry for himself.
Sounds like this fella has a little growing up to do.
Title: Re: One more time...
Post by: SirDerek on April 11, 2014, 07:20:00 AM
Quote from: slinger
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: adam1974
Quote from: drew88
I can have as many fucking reasons to quit as I want to. Do you think my friends and family would be the only thing that would make me give up Cope? Hell no! I had a better relationship with snuff than I did with a lot of family. I wouldnt be here if I DIDNT WANT TO. No one made me come back to this site. None of my friends or family even know about this site full of some of the biggest assholes I have met. Quitting is for me, but why can't all those other things be even more encouragement to quit?? When I have a craving, why cant I text one of yall and think, do I really want to let everyone down (family, friends, and you guys included)

Obviously I did a poor job explaining my rationale. For some people, maybe I should have used smaller words. But if after reading this, you still think I am full of shit, then screw off, Im better on my own.
You said it yourself. You know you are going to take some shit. Stop fucking crying for one second and think.

You are going to get shit until you post roll, engage in your group, and start the road to quit.

You got to HOF before? Great; help your group get there again.

Then I have a really good idea: Don't stop posting roll, EVER. You can't be trusted. You're an addict. And at this stage, a whiny one too. But that will probably pass if you be a man and stick to the program.

Coming back in 100 days to prove us wrong is the most juvenile thing I have ever heard.

How about posting 100 days in a row to prove yourself right? And then post the next 100 days in a row. And repeat. Until you die nicotine free in 80 years. That's the 290th floor.
Didn't see his name on roll today. Probably still feeling sorry for himself.
Sounds like this fella has a little growing up to do.
better on his own?????? then why here in the first place????

no one is better on their own when it comes to this serious life or death addiction. Bud there are thousands who have gone before you here and hundreds that are here with their hands out-stretched offering their help to you, the first of which is getting the mentality in the right frame to fight this marathon for quit.

But it all starts with giving your promise, so get on that roll, DAILY.