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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Screw_the_Chew on March 03, 2013, 05:06:00 PM
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Hi All,
Well its day 1 and hell on earth. I have chewed mostly Copenhagen for the last 22 years and this is not the first time I have tried to quit. I feel as though I have just lost my best friend and closest companion again; in fact I have. ItÂ’s like being in an abusive relationship where IÂ’m the victim. She makes you feel great when youÂ’re together but she plays mind games. She makes you depend upon her and soon she runs your lifeÂ…Â…all the while slowly stabbing you. Who needs that? I sure donÂ’t? ItÂ’s timeÂ…..you BITCH!
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Hi All,
Well its day 1 and hell on earth. I have chewed mostly Copenhagen for the last 22 years and this is not the first time I have tried to quit. I feel as though I have just lost my best friend and closest companion again; in fact I have. ItÂ’s like being in an abusive relationship where IÂ’m the victim. She makes you feel great when youÂ’re together but she plays mind games. She makes you depend upon her and soon she runs your lifeÂ…Â…all the while slowly stabbing you. Who needs that? I sure donÂ’t? ItÂ’s timeÂ…..you BITCH!
In FACTC you have NOT lost your best friend or a friend at all.
Anyone that kept me as a slave, tried to give me cancer, tried to take my teeth, jaw, tounge, emptied my pockets, take me away from my loved ones and tried to kill me daily by helping me commit suicide...I would not consider a "friend".
I would consider that a fucked face enemy.
Get your head on straight and lets battle this beat together. We are your new friends.
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Hi All,
Well its day 1 and hell on earth. I have chewed mostly Copenhagen for the last 22 years and this is not the first time I have tried to quit. I feel as though I have just lost my best friend and closest companion again; in fact I have. ItÂ’s like being in an abusive relationship where IÂ’m the victim. She makes you feel great when youÂ’re together but she plays mind games. She makes you depend upon her and soon she runs your lifeÂ…Â…all the while slowly stabbing you. Who needs that? I sure donÂ’t? ItÂ’s timeÂ…..you BITCH!
You keep shitty company my new friend, hell we all did. No longer though! It will get better on a daily basis. Get on over to the Welcome Center and get acquianted with your Group and post roll. Repeat everday. Like Diesel said, we are your new friends. We promise to not use one day at a time and we expect you to do the same. PM me if you need anything. Glad to be quit with you today!
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First things first Screw Boo...that friend tried to kill you daily for over two decades. You need to get your head straight my friend. That's the enemy not some old girl friend you used to grind under the bleachers. You should feel pissed. You should feel cheated. You should feel fucking aggravated as hell that you paid to put poison in your body. Fuck. It pisses me off to think about it. You are worth more than a few bucks in some suit's pocket. That's the romance they manufactured. Cancer in a can.
Stick to the program here and we'll rewire those fond memories to see what they actually were: you sucking on the nipple of cancer.
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Thank you all for your support. You are absolutely right about the tin not being a friend but an enemy that was slowly killing me each day. This is GREAT to have a place where you can go for support from people who have been where I am right now. Day 1 almost over. Thank you all for the welcome!
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Outstanding ScrewTheChew I see that you posted roll Finally today. I personally would recommend posting as early as you can in the day so that you don't get a chance to mind fuck yourself. Read all you can on this site, it is truly amazing how much you can learn about yourself. I have read "Tend your Garden" so many times I can recite it in German, (Not really but it's that fucking good). Like everyone has already pointed out the "friend" thing is bullshit and the longer you are on this site and involved in this site the more you will realize that. Proud to be quit with you today. QLF
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Chew is an enemy that has hijacked your fucking mind, i should know, its had mine for a long time. Im new to this quitting game, but i will tell you this.....If you put tobacco on a pedestal and pretend it is doing anything positive for you it will be nearly impossible to quit. Once you accept that tobacco does absolutely nothing good for you it makes it much easier to walk away. I just finished my first week cold turkey, when a craving hits I take deep breaths and remind myself that chew gives me nothing and robs me of health and wealth. Talk to the vets on this site, guys who have been quit for a year or so. The insight they have to give is solid gold.
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Chew is an enemy that has hijacked your fucking mind, i should know, its had mine for a long time. Im new to this quitting game, but i will tell you this.....If you put tobacco on a pedestal and pretend it is doing anything positive for you it will be nearly impossible to quit. Once you accept that tobacco does absolutely nothing good for you it makes it much easier to walk away. I just finished my first week cold turkey, when a craving hits I take deep breaths and remind myself that chew gives me nothing and robs me of health and wealth. Talk to the vets on this site, guys who have been quit for a year or so. The insight they have to give is solid gold.
Well stated Cannaday. The insight you just provided is solid gold. 1 year or month quit you can take that to the bank Screw. Sounds like you got that "best friend" bullshit out of your head in a big hurry. That is just a bullshit addict lie that UST wants us to believe.
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Chew is an enemy that has hijacked your fucking mind, i should know, its had mine for a long time. Im new to this quitting game, but i will tell you this.....If you put tobacco on a pedestal and pretend it is doing anything positive for you it will be nearly impossible to quit. Once you accept that tobacco does absolutely nothing good for you it makes it much easier to walk away. I just finished my first week cold turkey, when a craving hits I take deep breaths and remind myself that chew gives me nothing and robs me of health and wealth. Talk to the vets on this site, guys who have been quit for a year or so. The insight they have to give is solid gold.
Well stated Cannaday. The insight you just provided is solid gold. 1 year or month quit you can take that to the bank Screw. Sounds like you got that "best friend" bullshit out of your head in a big hurry. That is just a bullshit addict lie that UST wants us to believe.
hey Screw, Welcome to the hardest thing you've ever done in your life. Being Quit.
You have not quit before. You were on a break.
We do this daily by quitting every a.m. and posting roll giving our word to ourself and our brothers that we will NOT put the poison in our mouths TODAY. You can do anything for a day, right?
We are a "no nic" group of addicts. We don't use pussy patches, goofy nic gum, smelly cigars or any other form of nictotine. We don't trade the big nic bitch for a little one! We don't try, we do!
It is a simple process:
1. post roll early in the a.m. promising not to use TODAY. (the earlier the better for your quit)
2. Honor/Keep your word to yourself and your brothers here on KTC
3. Get to bed, wake and REPEAT
Thousands have done this before us. YOU can TOO. One day at a time. We are nicotine addicts for life. But we are freedom loving addicts one today at a time.
Like the brothers said already...read, read, chat, read, share, give (when you can), take what you need and leave the rest behind and your days will stack up quicker than you'll realize. It does get MUCH better. LIFE gets more real and clearer. It is the most wonderful thing to be QUIT of Nictotine. The sun is brighter, food taste better, the air is cleaner. No more hiding, just pure living! Cheers brother! You got this...One day at a time 'zombie'
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Superman's Abusive Relationship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPB4-EW2Fck)
You can only take so much before you fucking snap. Don't leave the door open.
Your "Copenhagen" was a low down dirty slut that was running train with every guy here. Sometimes, she used a different name but that didn't change you she is. She promised all of us happiness and she was quite fun.
But then she started cleaning out our bank accounts. She started stalking us every moment of the day. She fucking got us sick.
We all tired of her, and passive aggressively tried to rid ourselves of her. She told us she could change. That we would be "in charge". But then, we'd go right back to her.
To rid yourself of this bitch, you need to shut the fucking door and realize that she is no good for you. We have. We will remind you of it as well. Every fucking day. But you've got to be the one that stays away from her.
Soil her name.
See her vagina for what it is: A disease filled cavern of lies.
Kick her to the curb.
No regrets.
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Hi All,
Well its day 1 and hell on earth. I have chewed mostly Copenhagen for the last 22 years and this is not the first time I have tried to quit. I feel as though I have just lost my best friend and closest companion again; in fact I have. ItÂ’s like being in an abusive relationship where IÂ’m the victim. She makes you feel great when youÂ’re together but she plays mind games. She makes you depend upon her and soon she runs your lifeÂ…Â…all the while slowly stabbing you. Who needs that? I sure donÂ’t? ItÂ’s timeÂ…..you BITCH!
Yep. I tended to romanticize my relationships with nicotine. I was wrong. I thought it might be some kinda fountain of youth, as I identified with the good times I was having with my friends in our teens. Those friends are not in my life, many died, and the snuff and bugler cigarettes have stopped. I am quit with you today. Nicotine is a savage whore. It halps to say it and write it.
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Superman's Abusive Relationship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPB4-EW2Fck)
You can only take so much before you fucking snap. Don't leave the door open.
Your "Copenhagen" was a low down dirty slut that was running train with every guy here. Sometimes, she used a different name but that didn't change you she is. She promised all of us happiness and she was quite fun.
But then she started cleaning out our bank accounts. She started stalking us every moment of the day. She fucking got us sick.
We all tired of her, and passive aggressively tried to rid ourselves of her. She told us she could change. That we would be "in charge". But then, we'd go right back to her.
To rid yourself of this bitch, you need to shut the fucking door and realize that she is no good for you. We have. We will remind you of it as well. Every fucking day. But you've got to be the one that stays away from her.
Soil her name.
See her vagina for what it is: A disease filled cavern of lies.
Kick her to the curb.
No regrets.
Officially kicked to the curb.......I know it's only day 2 but no coming back this time! Thanks man
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Chew is an enemy that has hijacked your fucking mind, i should know, its had mine for a long time. Im new to this quitting game, but i will tell you this.....If you put tobacco on a pedestal and pretend it is doing anything positive for you it will be nearly impossible to quit. Once you accept that tobacco does absolutely nothing good for you it makes it much easier to walk away. I just finished my first week cold turkey, when a craving hits I take deep breaths and remind myself that chew gives me nothing and robs me of health and wealth. Talk to the vets on this site, guys who have been quit for a year or so. The insight they have to give is solid gold.
Well stated Cannaday. The insight you just provided is solid gold. 1 year or month quit you can take that to the bank Screw. Sounds like you got that "best friend" bullshit out of your head in a big hurry. That is just a bullshit addict lie that UST wants us to believe.
hey Screw, Welcome to the hardest thing you've ever done in your life. Being Quit.
You have not quit before. You were on a break.
We do this daily by quitting every a.m. and posting roll giving our word to ourself and our brothers that we will NOT put the poison in our mouths TODAY. You can do anything for a day, right?
We are a "no nic" group of addicts. We don't use pussy patches, goofy nic gum, smelly cigars or any other form of nictotine. We don't trade the big nic bitch for a little one! We don't try, we do!
It is a simple process:
1. post roll early in the a.m. promising not to use TODAY. (the earlier the better for your quit)
2. Honor/Keep your word to yourself and your brothers here on KTC
3. Get to bed, wake and REPEAT
Thousands have done this before us. YOU can TOO. One day at a time. We are nicotine addicts for life. But we are freedom loving addicts one today at a time.
Like the brothers said already...read, read, chat, read, share, give (when you can), take what you need and leave the rest behind and your days will stack up quicker than you'll realize. It does get MUCH better. LIFE gets more real and clearer. It is the most wonderful thing to be QUIT of Nictotine. The sun is brighter, food taste better, the air is cleaner. No more hiding, just pure living! Cheers brother! You got this...One day at a time 'zombie'
It is the hardest thing I've ever done and yesterday was one of the worst. Yesterday I felt like I was literally suffocating but I kept telling myself it will pass, it will pass as I pounded my fist against the wall. Today though, what a difference. I know its only day two but wow. Now I'm starting to realize how much of a complete moron I have been for the past 22 years dipping this stuff......fucking stupid.
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Chew is an enemy that has hijacked your fucking mind, i should know, its had mine for a long time. Im new to this quitting game, but i will tell you this.....If you put tobacco on a pedestal and pretend it is doing anything positive for you it will be nearly impossible to quit. Once you accept that tobacco does absolutely nothing good for you it makes it much easier to walk away. I just finished my first week cold turkey, when a craving hits I take deep breaths and remind myself that chew gives me nothing and robs me of health and wealth. Talk to the vets on this site, guys who have been quit for a year or so. The insight they have to give is solid gold.
Cannaday, congrats to you on going cold turkey for a week now. I think you're absolutely right about not putting tobacco on a pedestal. This shit has most definitely hijacked my mind long enough; now it's my turn.......and yours too!
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Congrats of a great choice, Screw. You're right...it will pass. Just when you get used to the suck, you'll notice that it lifted...a little. Each passing moment without nicotine makes you better.
You got this, brother!
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Congrats of a great choice, Screw. You're right...it will pass. Just when you get used to the suck, you'll notice that it lifted...a little. Each passing moment without nicotine makes you better.
You got this, brother!
Thanks for the support man....means a lot bro!
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You're half way through the physical part. That only gets better from here.
Now the head game really starts. Be ready. Stay close. It's going to get worse for a while.
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You're half way through the physical part. That only gets better from here.
Now the head game really starts. Be ready. Stay close. It's going to get worse for a while.
Oh the head games are hitting me hard. For many years, I would have a dip in every single time I would do certain tasks......now I feel unmotivated and don't think I can accomplish the same tasks without a dip. I now fear I am going to fail at certain things because I can't dip. I fear I will fail at my work and lose my job too!
Dip has always gotten me through difficult and daunting tasks not to meantion helping greatly deal with stress. I have always said for years "just as long as I have my dip, I can do and get through anything". Now what do I have to turn to?.....yoga, meditation, fucking staring at walls? I'm not going to lie; I want my dip back....my friend. Life sucks without it. I know it was killing me but it helped me through so much.
But I made a pledge to myself, my family, and all of you.....and I'm not going to let down! This SUCKS!!
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You're half way through the physical part. That only gets better from here.
Now the head game really starts. Be ready. Stay close. It's going to get worse for a while.
Oh the head games are hitting me hard. For many years, I would have a dip in every single time I would do certain tasks......now I feel unmotivated and don't think I can accomplish the same tasks without a dip. I now fear I am going to fail at certain things because I can't dip. I fear I will fail at my work and lose my job too!
Dip has always gotten me through difficult and daunting tasks not to meantion helping greatly deal with stress. I have always said for years "just as long as I have my dip, I can do and get through anything". Now what do I have to turn to?.....yoga, meditation, fucking staring at walls? I'm not going to lie; I want my dip back....my friend. Life sucks without it. I know it was killing me but it helped me through so much.
But I made a pledge to myself, my family, and all of you.....and I'm not going to let down! This SUCKS!!
The only way to beat the head game is to stay on top of how you think.
Dip has never, EVER helped you to do anything except to feed your addiction to nicotine. It was sucking on you, feeding on you, taking from you your health and money and dignity and freedom.
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You're half way through the physical part. That only gets better from here.
Now the head game really starts. Be ready. Stay close. It's going to get worse for a while.
Oh the head games are hitting me hard. For many years, I would have a dip in every single time I would do certain tasks......now I feel unmotivated and don't think I can accomplish the same tasks without a dip. I now fear I am going to fail at certain things because I can't dip. I fear I will fail at my work and lose my job too!
Dip has always gotten me through difficult and daunting tasks not to meantion helping greatly deal with stress. I have always said for years "just as long as I have my dip, I can do and get through anything". Now what do I have to turn to?.....yoga, meditation, fucking staring at walls? I'm not going to lie; I want my dip back....my friend. Life sucks without it. I know it was killing me but it helped me through so much.
But I made a pledge to myself, my family, and all of you.....and I'm not going to let down! This SUCKS!!
Oh you just wait until I get home!!!!!!!
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STC,
Just keep on venting to this site, read others stories, take a good look at the cancer photos, read, read, read.....
Do it one day at a time.
Chew ran your life, time for you to take that control back. You can do this, just know its going to be a knock down drag out fight.
Do whatever it takes to keep that shit out of your mouth today. Repeat tomorrow.
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You're half way through the physical part. That only gets better from here.
Now the head game really starts. Be ready. Stay close. It's going to get worse for a while.
Oh the head games are hitting me hard. For many years, I would have a dip in every single time I would do certain tasks......now I feel unmotivated and don't think I can accomplish the same tasks without a dip. I now fear I am going to fail at certain things because I can't dip. I fear I will fail at my work and lose my job too!
Dip has always gotten me through difficult and daunting tasks not to meantion helping greatly deal with stress. I have always said for years "just as long as I have my dip, I can do and get through anything". Now what do I have to turn to?.....yoga, meditation, fucking staring at walls? I'm not going to lie; I want my dip back....my friend. Life sucks without it. I know it was killing me but it helped me through so much.
But I made a pledge to myself, my family, and all of you.....and I'm not going to let down! This SUCKS!!
I bet the tip of your Dick is stained brown from all the times you fucked your can of posion. Did you dress it up and take it out on the town too? Buy it gifts, get it cards and candy on valentine's day? Did you ever propose to your tin? Sounds like you're still in LOOOOVVVVEEE.
Of course you can accomplish every task you did with dip, without it. Mother fuckers have landed on the moon without it. I'm sure you can make it through your day without it. A ton of people do it everyday.
You just need time and faith.
Time is self explanatory. You're not going to unravel all those years of posioning yourself in less than a week. They say time heals all wounds. The carnage dip has done to you're brain is no exception.
Faith is a little more difficult. You have to have faith in yourself. Faith in this site, faith in your quit group, those supporting you, and faith that you can live your life without dip...and that it wont suck. Your quality of life in no way should be determined by weather you posion yourself or not.
I know the beginning is tough. I was there too. Lost without a trace, no hope at all. But I kept faith in myself and this site. Over TIME my faith turned into confidence and confidence turned to belief and belief turned into KNOW...I KNEW I could live my life and do allllll the shit I used to do with dip...and still enjoy it.
I and the thousands of others on this site are proof that it can be done. If a pussy like me can do it, anybody can. You just need to give yourself some time and faith in the process.
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Not to pigpile on what you've certainly been told (LOOT didnt read the intro)...but you did not lose your best friend, you gained thousands of new best friends bro.
Enjoy.
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You're half way through the physical part. That only gets better from here.
Now the head game really starts. Be ready. Stay close. It's going to get worse for a while.
Oh the head games are hitting me hard. For many years, I would have a dip in every single time I would do certain tasks......now I feel unmotivated and don't think I can accomplish the same tasks without a dip. I now fear I am going to fail at certain things because I can't dip. I fear I will fail at my work and lose my job too!
Dip has always gotten me through difficult and daunting tasks not to meantion helping greatly deal with stress. I have always said for years "just as long as I have my dip, I can do and get through anything". Now what do I have to turn to?.....yoga, meditation, fucking staring at walls? I'm not going to lie; I want my dip back....my friend. Life sucks without it. I know it was killing me but it helped me through so much.
But I made a pledge to myself, my family, and all of you.....and I'm not going to let down! This SUCKS!!
I bet the tip of your Dick is stained brown from all the times you fucked your can of posion. Did you dress it up and take it out on the town too? Buy it gifts, get it cards and candy on valentine's day? Did you ever propose to your tin? Sounds like you're still in LOOOOVVVVEEE.
Of course you can accomplish every task you did with dip, without it. Mother fuckers have landed on the moon without it. I'm sure you can make it through your day without it. A ton of people do it everyday.
You just need time and faith.
Time is self explanatory. You're not going to unravel all those years of posioning yourself in less than a week. They say time heals all wounds. The carnage dip has done to you're brain is no exception.
Faith is a little more difficult. You have to have faith in yourself. Faith in this site, faith in your quit group, those supporting you, and faith that you can live your life without dip...and that it wont suck. Your quality of life in no way should be determined by weather you posion yourself or not.
I know the beginning is tough. I was there too. Lost without a trace, no hope at all. But I kept faith in myself and this site. Over TIME my faith turned into confidence and confidence turned to belief and belief turned into KNOW...I KNEW I could live my life and do allllll the shit I used to do with dip...and still enjoy it.
I and the thousands of others on this site are proof that it can be done. If a pussy like me can do it, anybody can. You just need to give yourself some time and faith in the process.
Hey Screw, I second that. I thought Diesel was full of shit about 50 days ago. I am on day 65 today and I have an entirely different outlook. I am healing 1 day at a time and I am started to live my life without dip. A month or 2 ago I was writing things exactly as you wrote them today. I was thinking exactly as you are today. And now I am slowly returning to doing all the things I used to do. Only now I am doing them without dip. The truth is I never needed it, I only thought I did. the same is true for you. You will see, hang in there man. You dont have to be a slave any longer. Stay the course, you will see.
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You're half way through the physical part. That only gets better from here.
Now the head game really starts. Be ready. Stay close. It's going to get worse for a while.
Oh the head games are hitting me hard. For many years, I would have a dip in every single time I would do certain tasks......now I feel unmotivated and don't think I can accomplish the same tasks without a dip. I now fear I am going to fail at certain things because I can't dip. I fear I will fail at my work and lose my job too!
Dip has always gotten me through difficult and daunting tasks not to meantion helping greatly deal with stress. I have always said for years "just as long as I have my dip, I can do and get through anything". Now what do I have to turn to?.....yoga, meditation, fucking staring at walls? I'm not going to lie; I want my dip back....my friend. Life sucks without it. I know it was killing me but it helped me through so much.
But I made a pledge to myself, my family, and all of you.....and I'm not going to let down! This SUCKS!!
I bet the tip of your Dick is stained brown from all the times you fucked your can of posion. Did you dress it up and take it out on the town too? Buy it gifts, get it cards and candy on valentine's day? Did you ever propose to your tin? Sounds like you're still in LOOOOVVVVEEE.
Of course you can accomplish every task you did with dip, without it. Mother fuckers have landed on the moon without it. I'm sure you can make it through your day without it. A ton of people do it everyday.
You just need time and faith.
Time is self explanatory. You're not going to unravel all those years of posioning yourself in less than a week. They say time heals all wounds. The carnage dip has done to you're brain is no exception.
Faith is a little more difficult. You have to have faith in yourself. Faith in this site, faith in your quit group, those supporting you, and faith that you can live your life without dip...and that it wont suck. Your quality of life in no way should be determined by weather you posion yourself or not.
I know the beginning is tough. I was there too. Lost without a trace, no hope at all. But I kept faith in myself and this site. Over TIME my faith turned into confidence and confidence turned to belief and belief turned into KNOW...I KNEW I could live my life and do allllll the shit I used to do with dip...and still enjoy it.
I and the thousands of others on this site are proof that it can be done. If a pussy like me can do it, anybody can. You just need to give yourself some time and faith in the process.
Hey Screw, I second that. I thought Diesel was full of shit about 50 days ago. I am on day 65 today and I have an entirely different outlook. I am healing 1 day at a time and I am started to live my life without dip. A month or 2 ago I was writing things exactly as you wrote them today. I was thinking exactly as you are today. And now I am slowly returning to doing all the things I used to do. Only now I am doing them without dip. The truth is I never needed it, I only thought I did. the same is true for you. You will see, hang in there man. You dont have to be a slave any longer. Stay the course, you will see.
I am full of shit. Been bound up lately. Too much cheese I think...
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"Mother fuckers have landed on the moon without it."
LOL, well aint that the fucking truth when you but it like that.
I'm trying like hell to get this shit out of my mind. YouÂ’re right though it will take time and hard work. One positive thing I am constantly reminded of, which you mentioned briefly, is that many millions of people go about their everyday activities without chew or even any tobacco.....hell we all used to before that Bitch got us.
Whenever I start talking this shit I need a good bitch slap....it helps.
Thanks for the support dude.
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You're half way through the physical part. That only gets better from here.
Now the head game really starts. Be ready. Stay close. It's going to get worse for a while.
Oh the head games are hitting me hard. For many years, I would have a dip in every single time I would do certain tasks......now I feel unmotivated and don't think I can accomplish the same tasks without a dip. I now fear I am going to fail at certain things because I can't dip. I fear I will fail at my work and lose my job too!
Dip has always gotten me through difficult and daunting tasks not to meantion helping greatly deal with stress. I have always said for years "just as long as I have my dip, I can do and get through anything". Now what do I have to turn to?.....yoga, meditation, fucking staring at walls? I'm not going to lie; I want my dip back....my friend. Life sucks without it. I know it was killing me but it helped me through so much.
But I made a pledge to myself, my family, and all of you.....and I'm not going to let down! This SUCKS!!
I bet the tip of your Dick is stained brown from all the times you fucked your can of posion. Did you dress it up and take it out on the town too? Buy it gifts, get it cards and candy on valentine's day? Did you ever propose to your tin? Sounds like you're still in LOOOOVVVVEEE.
Of course you can accomplish every task you did with dip, without it. Mother fuckers have landed on the moon without it. I'm sure you can make it through your day without it. A ton of people do it everyday.
You just need time and faith.
Time is self explanatory. You're not going to unravel all those years of posioning yourself in less than a week. They say time heals all wounds. The carnage dip has done to you're brain is no exception.
Faith is a little more difficult. You have to have faith in yourself. Faith in this site, faith in your quit group, those supporting you, and faith that you can live your life without dip...and that it wont suck. Your quality of life in no way should be determined by weather you posion yourself or not.
I know the beginning is tough. I was there too. Lost without a trace, no hope at all. But I kept faith in myself and this site. Over TIME my faith turned into confidence and confidence turned to belief and belief turned into KNOW...I KNEW I could live my life and do allllll the shit I used to do with dip...and still enjoy it.
I and the thousands of others on this site are proof that it can be done. If a pussy like me can do it, anybody can. You just need to give yourself some time and faith in the process.
Hey Screw, I second that. I thought Diesel was full of shit about 50 days ago. I am on day 65 today and I have an entirely different outlook. I am healing 1 day at a time and I am started to live my life without dip. A month or 2 ago I was writing things exactly as you wrote them today. I was thinking exactly as you are today. And now I am slowly returning to doing all the things I used to do. Only now I am doing them without dip. The truth is I never needed it, I only thought I did. the same is true for you. You will see, hang in there man. You dont have to be a slave any longer. Stay the course, you will see.
Yeah I know it's my brainwashed mind thinking I need the tobacco in order to do things. I think the hard part is overcoming and believing that isnÂ’t true so that it doesnÂ’t turn into a self-fulfilling prophesy. Thanks man.
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You're doing right. I'm not a Dick, i swear. I just want you to keep with it and feel the freedom I now feel
I went through two cans of kodiak a day. The day I quit the phone wrang at work and my heart started to beat through my chest. Even though I had answered that bitch a million times...I was scared shitless. Went on a few weeks like that. Over time it got easier. I remember at about the 3 week mark I got thrown into a conference call with a PISSED OFF customer, my national sales manager, and the CEO of the company I Rep for. Had no idea the call was coming. Literally thrown into the fire. I started wheeling and dealing like a champ. I had all the answers, solutions and was witty at the same time. When the call ended all parties were happy and satisfied.
BOOM. After that call I never feared the phone again. It was dumb I did to begin with. But...that's addiction. It can make you think dumb shit.
Today I drove for 6 hrs, came home to an empty house, ate a huge dinner, drove 45 minutes to play basketball and 45 more minutes home...dip was a non factor. The thought of it makes me sick to be honest. I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable. You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.
Stay quit my friend.
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You're doing right. I'm not a Dick, i swear. I just want you to keep with it and feel the freedom I now feel
I went through two cans of kodiak a day. The day I quit the phone wrang at work and my heart started to beat through my chest. Even though I had answered that bitch a million times...I was scared shitless. Went on a few weeks like that. Over time it got easier. I remember at about the 3 week mark I got thrown into a conference call with a PISSED OFF customer, my national sales manager, and the CEO of the company I Rep for. Had no idea the call was coming. Literally thrown into the fire. I started wheeling and dealing like a champ. I had all the answers, solutions and was witty at the same time. When the call ended all parties were happy and satisfied.
BOOM. After that call I never feared the phone again. It was dumb I did to begin with. But...that's addiction. It can make you think dumb shit.
Today I drove for 6 hrs, came home to an empty house, ate a huge dinner, drove 45 minutes to play basketball and 45 more minutes home...dip was a non factor. The thought of it makes me sick to be honest. I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable. You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.
Stay quit my friend.
Sometimes I say some fucked up things here but that's me just expressing how I feel at the moment. I have many moments when I feel lost without my tobacco; like I can't do anything or even think without it......but you've been there and eventually you got over your fear and self-confidence issues and pulled through like a champ. That's exactly what I have to do.....get over the fear and realize it REALLY was me doing it NOT the damn tobacco somehow guiding me. Easier said than done of course so expect to see some nonsense posts until I finally get over it......and in return please continue to knock the bullshit out of me.
I honestly appreciate the support from you and everyone else on here. I'm telling everyone about this site and how we can have a no hold barred discussions to support one another. We're not afraid to offend and/or beat the shit out of each other if need be in order to break the addiction......that's what it takes!
I'll keep it up and you guys keep it up.....
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You're doing right. I'm not a Dick, i swear. I just want you to keep with it and feel the freedom I now feel
I went through two cans of kodiak a day. The day I quit the phone wrang at work and my heart started to beat through my chest. Even though I had answered that bitch a million times...I was scared shitless. Went on a few weeks like that. Over time it got easier. I remember at about the 3 week mark I got thrown into a conference call with a PISSED OFF customer, my national sales manager, and the CEO of the company I Rep for. Had no idea the call was coming. Literally thrown into the fire. I started wheeling and dealing like a champ.  I had all the answers, solutions and was witty at the same time. When the call ended all parties were happy and satisfied.
BOOM. After that call I never feared the phone again. It was dumb I did to begin with. But...that's addiction. It can make you think dumb shit.
Today I drove for 6 hrs, came home to an empty house, ate a huge dinner, drove 45 minutes to play basketball and 45 more minutes home...dip was a non factor. The thought of it makes me sick to be honest.  I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Stay quit my friend.
Sometimes I say some fucked up things here but that's me just expressing how I feel at the moment. I have many moments when I feel lost without my tobacco; like I can't do anything or even think without it......but you've been there and eventually you got over your fear and self-confidence issues and pulled through like a champ. That's exactly what I have to do.....get over the fear and realize it REALLY was me doing it NOT the damn tobacco somehow guiding me. Easier said than done of course so expect to see some nonsense posts until I finally get over it......and in return please continue to knock the bullshit out of me.
I honestly appreciate the support from you and everyone else on here. I'm telling everyone about this site and how we can have a no hold barred discussions to support one another. We're not afraid to offend and/or beat the shit out of each other if need be in order to break the addiction......that's what it takes!
I'll keep it up and you guys keep it up.....
Absolutely. Anytime you feel rage, feel beat down, have a question, or even if you feel great and want to pop your collar about it...come here. We will support you.
Sometimes I think I try and be too hard, but I really do want to see you quit. Mainly because I went from feeling like I had zero shot of quitting and ever rising up from the emotional dumpster to feeling freedom beyond beliefe. I cannot believe how great I feel now.
I'm not trying to toot my own horn, their are quitters 1000 times more bad ass than me on this site. I just want you to feel the same freedom, its beyond words. I do not wish nic addiction on my worst enemy.
You got this shiznit, bro. We are here for you anytime. Use us.
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You're doing right. I'm not a Dick, i swear. I just want you to keep with it and feel the freedom I now feel
I went through two cans of kodiak a day. The day I quit the phone wrang at work and my heart started to beat through my chest. Even though I had answered that bitch a million times...I was scared shitless. Went on a few weeks like that. Over time it got easier. I remember at about the 3 week mark I got thrown into a conference call with a PISSED OFF customer, my national sales manager, and the CEO of the company I Rep for. Had no idea the call was coming. Literally thrown into the fire. I started wheeling and dealing like a champ.  I had all the answers, solutions and was witty at the same time. When the call ended all parties were happy and satisfied.
BOOM. After that call I never feared the phone again. It was dumb I did to begin with. But...that's addiction. It can make you think dumb shit.
Today I drove for 6 hrs, came home to an empty house, ate a huge dinner, drove 45 minutes to play basketball and 45 more minutes home...dip was a non factor. The thought of it makes me sick to be honest.  I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Stay quit my friend.
Sometimes I say some fucked up things here but that's me just expressing how I feel at the moment. I have many moments when I feel lost without my tobacco; like I can't do anything or even think without it......but you've been there and eventually you got over your fear and self-confidence issues and pulled through like a champ. That's exactly what I have to do.....get over the fear and realize it REALLY was me doing it NOT the damn tobacco somehow guiding me. Easier said than done of course so expect to see some nonsense posts until I finally get over it......and in return please continue to knock the bullshit out of me.
I honestly appreciate the support from you and everyone else on here. I'm telling everyone about this site and how we can have a no hold barred discussions to support one another. We're not afraid to offend and/or beat the shit out of each other if need be in order to break the addiction......that's what it takes!
I'll keep it up and you guys keep it up.....
Absolutely. Anytime you feel rage, feel beat down, have a question, or even if you feel great and want to pop your collar about it...come here. We will support you.
Sometimes I think I try and be too hard, but I really do want to see you quit. Mainly because I went from feeling like I had zero shot of quitting and ever rising up from the emotional dumpster to feeling freedom beyond beliefe. I cannot believe how great I feel now.
I'm not trying to toot my own horn, their are quitters 1000 times more bad ass than me on this site. I just want you to feel the same freedom, its beyond words. I do not wish nic addiction on my worst enemy.
You got this shiznit, bro. We are here for you anytime. Use us.
Your doing right and just keep doing. Diesel is great help, but it will come down to you. I know the emotions and I am there now as well which has kept me from posting much. The last week has been like sleep walking, like I will never wake up. I am working through it and you are to. Nice work and let folks know if you need help.
Shed
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable. You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable. You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
Have at it bro! There's no intellectual property rights associated to it. I'm not intellectual, I'm a dumb ass!!! LOL
Stay Quit!!!
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
Have at it bro! There's no intellectual property rights associated to it. I'm not intellectual, I'm a dumb ass!!! LOL
Stay Quit!!!
Yep. Summed up nicely. When addiction becomes a full time unpleasurable job you know it is time. Time for freedom.
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
Have at it bro! There's no intellectual property rights associated to it. I'm not intellectual, I'm a dumb ass!!! LOL
Stay Quit!!!
Yep. Summed up nicely. When addiction becomes a full time unpleasurable job you know it is time. Time for freedom.
Fucking eh yes! Freedom is like your soul going commando.
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
Have at it bro! There's no intellectual property rights associated to it. I'm not intellectual, I'm a dumb ass!!! LOL
Stay Quit!!!
Yep. Summed up nicely. When addiction becomes a full time unpleasurable job you know it is time. Time for freedom.
Fucking eh yes! Freedom is like your soul going commando.
Says it like it is. Thanks for making my quit stronger today. iquitchewing 72 days
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
Have at it bro! There's no intellectual property rights associated to it. I'm not intellectual, I'm a dumb ass!!! LOL
Stay Quit!!!
Yep. Summed up nicely. When addiction becomes a full time unpleasurable job you know it is time. Time for freedom.
Fucking eh yes! Freedom is like your soul going commando.
Says it like it is. Thanks for making my quit stronger today. iquitchewing 72 days
I've had a stressful day and came so close to caving in. You want to know what stopped me from caving? My daughter, wife, and my family. I don't want my daughter to not have a dad or my wife a husband. No way I'm going to let tobacco take away my family. Fuck You, you're MY bitch now nic!
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There may have been threads about this in the past but I wanted to have a discussion about triggers because this seems to be one of the keys. IÂ’m not sure if avoiding triggers is necessarily the answer more than it is identifying your triggers and learning how to overcome them. I think it would help a great deal if people could share their experiences and how they overcame their particular triggers.
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Any and every excuse your addict brain can come up with (good, bad or indifferent) as an 'reason to dip' is a trigger.
Start by going to the last page of the intros and reading forward then ask that question again
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There may have been threads about this in the past but I wanted to have a discussion about triggers because this seems to be one of the keys. IÂ’m not sure if avoiding triggers is necessarily the answer more than it is identifying your triggers and learning how to overcome them. I think it would help a great deal if people could share their experiences and how they overcame their particular triggers.
I was thinking about this last week and continue to struggle getting my arms around triggers and caves. After dipping for over 20 years and only having 2+ months quit, my brain is still wired funny.
Here was my post: index.php?showtopic=7629 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7629)
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Triggers are different for everybody. What helped me cope with some of these triggers was picking up an exercise regime. Specifically, p90x. My body and brain were focused on exercising and what I was eating. In other words, this is how I distracted myself for 90 days. I am now in the middle of an insanity cycle.
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There may have been threads about this in the past but I wanted to have a discussion about triggers because this seems to be one of the keys. IÂ’m not sure if avoiding triggers is necessarily the answer more than it is identifying your triggers and learning how to overcome them. I think it would help a great deal if people could share their experiences and how they overcame their particular triggers.
I posted this back on June 17
QUOTE (CleanFuel @ Jun 17, 2012, 10:47 pm)
Here are my TRIGGERS WON...and TRIGGERS LEFT TO CONQUER....
Wake up Dip...DONE
After sex Dip...DONE
After breakfast Dip...DONE
After lunch Dip...DONE
Stress Dip...DONE
Flight Dip...DONE
Long flight Dip...DONE
Drive to Airport Dip...DONE
Check in to hotel Dip...DONE
After dinner Dip...DONE
Drunk dip...DONE
Video Gaming Dip...DONE
After workout Dip...DONE
I have two more to face
Movie Dip
Long Drive Dip
any other triggers I am missing??
Shower dip, hunting/fishing/outdoor dip, summer dip, game day dip
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There may have been threads about this in the past but I wanted to have a discussion about triggers because this seems to be one of the keys. IÂ’m not sure if avoiding triggers is necessarily the answer more than it is identifying your triggers and learning how to overcome them. I think it would help a great deal if people could share their experiences and how they overcame their particular triggers.
I posted this back on June 17
QUOTE (CleanFuel @ Jun 17, 2012, 10:47 pm)
Here are my TRIGGERS WON...and TRIGGERS LEFT TO CONQUER....
Wake up Dip...DONE
After sex Dip...DONE
After breakfast Dip...DONE
After lunch Dip...DONE
Stress Dip...DONE
Flight Dip...DONE
Long flight Dip...DONE
Drive to Airport Dip...DONE
Check in to hotel Dip...DONE
After dinner Dip...DONE
Drunk dip...DONE
Video Gaming Dip...DONE
After workout Dip...DONE
I have two more to face
Movie Dip
Long Drive Dip
any other triggers I am missing??
Shower dip, hunting/fishing/outdoor dip, summer dip, game day dip
Personally, I like to conquer the triggers - thats what the first year is all about. Because for a year who will face things that you forgot about (wrapping Christmas presents dip, etc, etc)
Have about 20 days left and will have faced a year of annual triggers....then I get to face them all again for a second time....one day at a time of course.
QUIT
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
Read jdalrymple's intro page and his cancer scare. Imagine having to go through that. Luckily, he got good news. You might not. Take it from me, a cave is not worth it and it will be only that more difficult next time. Stay strong brother. I'll PM you my number and feel free to call.
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Please divide the days you've spent on this kickass quit by the number of days you poisoned yourself. I'll wait
That's a lot of zeroes at the beginning isn't it?
.
This pain is temporary. It will pass. Like every muscle in our body, it must be built up stronger and stronger every day. you aren't Arnold overnight.
I'm watching.
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Please divide the days you've spent on this kickass quit by the number of days you poisoned yourself. I'll wait
That's a lot of zeroes at the beginning isn't it?
.
This pain is temporary. It will pass. Like every muscle in our body, it must be built up stronger and stronger every day. you aren't Arnold overnight.
I'm watching.
WP speaks
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
Have at it bro! There's no intellectual property rights associated to it. I'm not intellectual, I'm a dumb ass!!! LOL
Stay Quit!!!
Yep. Summed up nicely. When addiction becomes a full time unpleasurable job you know it is time. Time for freedom.
Fucking eh yes! Freedom is like your soul going commando.
Says it like it is. Thanks for making my quit stronger today. iquitchewing 72 days
I've had a stressful day and came so close to caving in. You want to know what stopped me from caving? My daughter, wife, and my family. I don't want my daughter to not have a dad or my wife a husband. No way I'm going to let tobacco take away my family. Fuck You, you're MY bitch now nic!
You are a weak addict....admit it brother.....step up and defy the odds......you have 2 intros going on and the both suck
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was a weak and stupid fucking post but that was how I was feeling at the time and the thoughts going through my head you douchebag. My crave has passed and I stayed clean so fuck you cunt.
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was a weak and stupid fucking post but that was how I was feeling at the time and the thoughts going through my head you douchebag. My crave has passed and I stayed clean so fuck you cunt.
Yeah, I am a douchebag and a cunt and bitchy mother fucking quitter.....And now I am officially inserting my foot in your ass...you get me?
you are an addict. you are weak. I am quit with you.......dont ever make another post like that
be your own voice and defy the odds....step the fuck up....bitch
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
I listen and I care otherwise I wouldn't be on this site spending so much time reading everything and trying to rewire my brain. I say stupid shit at the time I'm having a crave, that's why I need help from family, friends, whoever....so it doesn't turn into a cave. At 12:00 am I'm going to post roll. Thanks for being strong with me.
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Please divide the days you've spent on this kickass quit by the number of days you poisoned yourself. I'll wait
That's a lot of zeroes at the beginning isn't it?
.
This pain is temporary. It will pass. Like every muscle in our body, it must be built up stronger and stronger every day. you aren't Arnold overnight.
I'm watching.
The pain was the most intense I have ever felt but luckily it was short lived. I made a stupid post I know that but there's nothing logical about an addict like me. Yes please watch, the more eyes the better. Thanks man.
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
Have at it bro! There's no intellectual property rights associated to it. I'm not intellectual, I'm a dumb ass!!! LOL
Stay Quit!!!
Yep. Summed up nicely. When addiction becomes a full time unpleasurable job you know it is time. Time for freedom.
Fucking eh yes! Freedom is like your soul going commando.
Says it like it is. Thanks for making my quit stronger today. iquitchewing 72 days
I've had a stressful day and came so close to caving in. You want to know what stopped me from caving? My daughter, wife, and my family. I don't want my daughter to not have a dad or my wife a husband. No way I'm going to let tobacco take away my family. Fuck You, you're MY bitch now nic!
You are a weak addict....admit it brother.....step up and defy the odds......you have 2 intros going on and the both suck
I admit I am a weak addict. I'm stepping and not backing down again. About the 2 intros sucking..... 'Finger'
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I can remember driving home from hoops with my lip full of kodiak. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I got no buzz, my spitter was skanky...it was all just a mess. Those are the times I dwell on when I THINK I miss that crap. Not every dip was some euphoric, stress releasing expierence. In fact most times it sucked when I really think about it.
You are not giving up anything pleasurable.  You are freeing yourself from one of the most disgusting addictions known to mankind. Dip fills no voids in your life. It creates them.Â
Diesel, this post really hit home with me. You're exactly right, most times it sucked. And for a ninja dipper, it was like a second job but more stressful. Thank you for this. I might quote it in some way in my sig line if you don't mind.
Have at it bro! There's no intellectual property rights associated to it. I'm not intellectual, I'm a dumb ass!!! LOL
Stay Quit!!!
Yep. Summed up nicely. When addiction becomes a full time unpleasurable job you know it is time. Time for freedom.
Fucking eh yes! Freedom is like your soul going commando.
Says it like it is. Thanks for making my quit stronger today. iquitchewing 72 days
I've had a stressful day and came so close to caving in. You want to know what stopped me from caving? My daughter, wife, and my family. I don't want my daughter to not have a dad or my wife a husband. No way I'm going to let tobacco take away my family. Fuck You, you're MY bitch now nic!
You are a weak addict....admit it brother.....step up and defy the odds......you have 2 intros going on and the both suck
I admit I am a weak addict. I'm stepping and not backing down again. About the 2 intros sucking..... 'Finger'
love you too....
but am quit with you....even after you planned cave post
are you ready for this????????
I mean really ready????
Are you your own voice????
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
Thanks for your post Mike. It is helpful....unlike some others. I'm past my crave and I have most of you to tank along with my wife and family who have me some positive encouragement. Thanks for the #!
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
Thanks for your post Mike. It is helpful....unlike some others. I'm past my crave and I have most of you to tank along with my wife and family who have me some positive encouragement. Thanks for the #!
Unlike some others??? like mine??? just wondering.....I am not here to comb your hair and tell you bedtime stories.....
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was a weak and stupid fucking post but that was how I was feeling at the time and the thoughts going through my head you douchebag. My crave has passed and I stayed clean so fuck you cunt.
Yeah, I am a douchebag and a cunt and bitchy mother fucking quitter.....And now I am officially inserting my foot in your ass...you get me?
you are an addict. you are weak. I am quit with you.......dont ever make another post like that
be your own voice and defy the odds....step the fuck up....bitch
Oh I got you. Don't tell me what I can and can't post you fuck. I don't give a shit what you say, the only thing I care about is staying quit. I'll focus on those who are interested in helping rather than trying show that they're some bad ass fuck sticking things up guy's asses.
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was a weak and stupid fucking post but that was how I was feeling at the time and the thoughts going through my head you douchebag. My crave has passed and I stayed clean so fuck you cunt.
Yeah, I am a douchebag and a cunt and bitchy mother fucking quitter.....And now I am officially inserting my foot in your ass...you get me?
you are an addict. you are weak. I am quit with you.......dont ever make another post like that
be your own voice and defy the odds....step the fuck up....bitch
Oh I got you. Don't tell me what I can and can't post you fuck. I don't give a shit what you say, the only thing I care about is staying quit. I'll focus on those who are interested in helping rather than trying show that they're some bad ass fuck sticking things up guy's asses.
You are not getting me....at all....I am your best friend right now....you just don't like my tone or the reality of it...........check you inbox....there is my number.....you can not cave without texting me first.....
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Glad to see you're still here! It's times like these where having numbers to text or call come in handy!
I'd like you go back, take a look at your original wanting to cave post. Then I want you replace nicotine with cocaine or heroin. It's the voice of an addict trying to justify their addiction. I was reading comments on youtube from people trying to justify dipping because the cancer percentages are lower than smoker. But it all causes cancer.
Even with a "clean bill of health" you can still have the beginnings of carcinoma... how many people out there are wrongfully diagnosed or diagnosed late because of a bad doctor or radiologists reading? How many are diagnosed because they are a fucking moron and keep doing this shit?
Listen up, I am ending Day 15... I can guarantee you that this will pass after your first week. My brain is beginning to rewire itself and I haven;t craved after a meal in 3 days. Same with at work... any craving was a simple as just stopping, deep breath and saying "no". Then it passed. Just like your brain was used to dipping during certain times, your brain will begin to get used to not dipping during those same times. I have passed huge hurdles at work, which is where I dipped a lot!
I know I have more challenges ahead of me, but my determination to push through these first two weeks and remain optimistic has allowed my outcome to be much better. Now sack up with the rest of us June group quitters and let's make it to the HOF together!
If you need anything, PM me and I can give you my number!
:ph43r:
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was a weak and stupid fucking post but that was how I was feeling at the time and the thoughts going through my head you douchebag. My crave has passed and I stayed clean so fuck you cunt.
Yeah, I am a douchebag and a cunt and bitchy mother fucking quitter.....And now I am officially inserting my foot in your ass...you get me?
you are an addict. you are weak. I am quit with you.......dont ever make another post like that
be your own voice and defy the odds....step the fuck up....bitch
Oh I got you. Don't tell me what I can and can't post you fuck. I don't give a shit what you say, the only thing I care about is staying quit. I'll focus on those who are interested in helping rather than trying show that they're some bad ass fuck sticking things up guy's asses.
You are not getting me....at all....I am your best friend right now....you just don't like my tone or the reality of it...........check you inbox....there is my number.....you can not cave without texting me first.....
Alright man.....I know your trying to help. I'll look for you number, thanks. I need brothers....I do....not enemies. I'm posting roll at 12:00 am sharp and looking forward to tomorrow being a much better day. But your still a fuck
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was a weak and stupid fucking post but that was how I was feeling at the time and the thoughts going through my head you douchebag. My crave has passed and I stayed clean so fuck you cunt.
Yeah, I am a douchebag and a cunt and bitchy mother fucking quitter.....And now I am officially inserting my foot in your ass...you get me?
you are an addict. you are weak. I am quit with you.......dont ever make another post like that
be your own voice and defy the odds....step the fuck up....bitch
Oh I got you. Don't tell me what I can and can't post you fuck. I don't give a shit what you say, the only thing I care about is staying quit. I'll focus on those who are interested in helping rather than trying show that they're some bad ass fuck sticking things up guy's asses.
You are not getting me....at all....I am your best friend right now....you just don't like my tone or the reality of it...........check you inbox....there is my number.....you can not cave without texting me first.....
Alright man.....I know your trying to help. I'll look for you number, thanks. I need brothers....I do....not enemies. I'm posting roll at 12:00 am sharp and looking forward to tomorrow being a much better day. But your still a fuck
I promise to be your favorite fuck when you hit HOF....deal????
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Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was a weak and stupid fucking post but that was how I was feeling at the time and the thoughts going through my head you douchebag. My crave has passed and I stayed clean so fuck you cunt.
Yeah, I am a douchebag and a cunt and bitchy mother fucking quitter.....And now I am officially inserting my foot in your ass...you get me?
you are an addict. you are weak. I am quit with you.......dont ever make another post like that
be your own voice and defy the odds....step the fuck up....bitch
Oh I got you. Don't tell me what I can and can't post you fuck. I don't give a shit what you say, the only thing I care about is staying quit. I'll focus on those who are interested in helping rather than trying show that they're some bad ass fuck sticking things up guy's asses.
You are not getting me....at all....I am your best friend right now....you just don't like my tone or the reality of it...........check you inbox....there is my number.....you can not cave without texting me first.....
Alright man.....I know your trying to help. I'll look for you number, thanks. I need brothers....I do....not enemies. I'm posting roll at 12:00 am sharp and looking forward to tomorrow being a much better day. But your still a fuck
I promise to be your favorite fuck when you hit HOF....deal????
That's what it's all about. Amazing couple hours to be involved in. KTC kicks the Nic bitches ass again. QLF
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Glad to see you're still here! It's times like these where having numbers to text or call come in handy!
I'd like you go back, take a look at your original wanting to cave post. Then I want you replace nicotine with cocaine or heroin. It's the voice of an addict trying to justify their addiction. I was reading comments on youtube from people trying to justify dipping because the cancer percentages are lower than smoker. But it all causes cancer.
Even with a "clean bill of health" you can still have the beginnings of carcinoma... how many people out there are wrongfully diagnosed or diagnosed late because of a bad doctor or radiologists reading? How many are diagnosed because they are a fucking moron and keep doing this shit?
Listen up, I am ending Day 15... I can guarantee you that this will pass after your first week. My brain is beginning to rewire itself and I haven;t craved after a meal in 3 days. Same with at work... any craving was a simple as just stopping, deep breath and saying "no". Then it passed. Just like your brain was used to dipping during certain times, your brain will begin to get used to not dipping during those same times. I have passed huge hurdles at work, which is where I dipped a lot!
I know I have more challenges ahead of me, but my determination to push through these first two weeks and remain optimistic has allowed my outcome to be much better. Now sack up with the rest of us June group quitters and let's make it to the HOF together!
If you need anything, PM me and I can give you my number!
:ph43r:
The truth is I have been making excuses for many years and the one I used the most was studies showing chewing tobacco has lower cancer risks and smoking. I admit the one I used tonight about the stress of quitting being worse for you than dipping was pretty pathetic.....you're 100% right, it was just me desperately trying to make excuses. My wife told me the same thing tonight.
I give you my word I am going to stay quit with you and the rest of the June group.....and you do the same. Let's do this!
-
Great, this is some good stuff. I'm having a trigger right now. The family cane over and we all had a big dinner plus kids running around screaming and crying. I'm hardwired to have a huge dip right now. I did have a dip but it was Smokey Mountain and I came in the room to post about it. If only I could have a real dip.
Maybe it's the wrong time to quit? Maybe I could dip for the rest of my life and still be healthy like iquitchewing. My dentist said I don't have any signs of oral cancer, had an EDG 2 years ago, CT scan of heart and stomach 2 years ago and all is OK. I think all the stress of quitting is worse than dipping to be honest. I'll probably die young just worrying and stressing about not having tobacco. I don't know. I have some rethinking to do and need to talk to some family and close friends about this. I won't dip today because I promised but 12:00 am is a different day.
Why would you want to gamble your life on something like this? The key word in what you said was "maybe". Maybe you won't die from this. Maybe you will. Do you really want to take that chance? How long have you been quit? This sounds like a first week quitter to me. I promise that it will get better. But you chose to start using this shit in the first place. Now you have to pay the consequences to quit. Part of that is fighting through the withdrawls, The SUCK as we like to call it here at KTC. You are getting a good dose of what the SUCK means. I encourage you to embrace it and remember what it feels like. In a few more days it will start to subside. You will still have craves off and on but they will become less frequent and less severe as time goes on.
Please dont' give up. There are alot of people here to help support you. I encourage you to reach out to people on this site. Check your in box. I have sent you my numbers. feel free to call me or text me at any time. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.
mike
I'll be honest with you STC this whole damn thread sounds like a set up for a cave. It sounds to me like you have been taking in all this info but not really listening or caring. Like you are just going through the motions of a person who "wants" to be quit. WTF would you have to talk to your family or friends about starting up the disgusting habit again?? Man the fuck up and spit in the Nic bitches face at 12:01 and 1 second brother. Stay strong and don't give her the power ever again. PM me and I got your back on this man. QLF today
Are you fucking kidding me?
The Nic Bitch is so in your fucking head its ridiculous....that is the bitch talking, not you, you dumb fuck....
You are a fucking addict. You are addicted to nicotine. There is no skill you can acquire to beat nicotine....do you hear me? It's not like golf.....where you practice, take lessons, get a coach and get really good at golf.
Can you do that with Nicotine???? CAN YOU?
Can you take lessons on how not to get cancer? Can you get a coach to teach how to not get cancer???
The post you just made is the dumbest, most nicotine addicted, stupid, ridiculous fucking post I have ever seen.....
Here is what I want you to imagine....imagine your wife fucking another guy because you are dead, because you believe the dumb fucking post you just made.
You are in heaven....or hell (who knows) but you see your wife riding this guy....doing shit she never did with you.......kissing him (cuz he doesn't dip and have to brush his teeth) and while she is about to cum, all she can think about is how great it is to fuck a guy that doesn't dip.....
then imagine this....your kids, graduating from college....you are not there because you are dead....but that guy (you know the one, the one that just made your wife cum like a maniac) yeah, that guy, he is there with a suit on and there for the entire graduation ceremony...your kids run up to him and hug him and say "I am glad you stayed for the whole ceremony, my other dad couldn't....he would have had to leave to grab a dip"
This is the weakest fucking post I have ever read.....
Get in the game.....step up and be a fucking man....
Don't let your addicted fucking head make decisions for you....
Don't let the bitch be your voice.....
BE YOUR OWN VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was a weak and stupid fucking post but that was how I was feeling at the time and the thoughts going through my head you douchebag. My crave has passed and I stayed clean so fuck you cunt.
Yeah, I am a douchebag and a cunt and bitchy mother fucking quitter.....And now I am officially inserting my foot in your ass...you get me?
you are an addict. you are weak. I am quit with you.......dont ever make another post like that
be your own voice and defy the odds....step the fuck up....bitch
Oh I got you. Don't tell me what I can and can't post you fuck. I don't give a shit what you say, the only thing I care about is staying quit. I'll focus on those who are interested in helping rather than trying show that they're some bad ass fuck sticking things up guy's asses.
You are not getting me....at all....I am your best friend right now....you just don't like my tone or the reality of it...........check you inbox....there is my number.....you can not cave without texting me first.....
Alright man.....I know your trying to help. I'll look for you number, thanks. I need brothers....I do....not enemies. I'm posting roll at 12:00 am sharp and looking forward to tomorrow being a much better day. But your still a fuck
I promise to be your favorite fuck when you hit HOF....deal????
Deal
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Glad to see you're still here! It's times like these where having numbers to text or call come in handy!
I'd like you go back, take a look at your original wanting to cave post. Then I want you replace nicotine with cocaine or heroin. It's the voice of an addict trying to justify their addiction. I was reading comments on youtube from people trying to justify dipping because the cancer percentages are lower than smoker. But it all causes cancer.
Even with a "clean bill of health" you can still have the beginnings of carcinoma... how many people out there are wrongfully diagnosed or diagnosed late because of a bad doctor or radiologists reading? How many are diagnosed because they are a fucking moron and keep doing this shit?
Listen up, I am ending Day 15... I can guarantee you that this will pass after your first week. My brain is beginning to rewire itself and I haven;t craved after a meal in 3 days. Same with at work... any craving was a simple as just stopping, deep breath and saying "no". Then it passed. Just like your brain was used to dipping during certain times, your brain will begin to get used to not dipping during those same times. I have passed huge hurdles at work, which is where I dipped a lot!
I know I have more challenges ahead of me, but my determination to push through these first two weeks and remain optimistic has allowed my outcome to be much better. Now sack up with the rest of us June group quitters and let's make it to the HOF together!
If you need anything, PM me and I can give you my number!
 :ph43r:
The truth is I have been making excuses for many years and the one I used the most was studies showing chewing tobacco has lower cancer risks and smoking. I admit the one I used tonight about the stress of quitting being worse for you than dipping was pretty pathetic.....you're 100% right, it was just me desperately trying to make excuses. My wife told me the same thing tonight.
I give you my word I am going to stay quit with you and the rest of the June group.....and you do the same. Let's do this!
Staying quit with you!
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Glad to see you're still here! It's times like these where having numbers to text or call come in handy!
I'd like you go back, take a look at your original wanting to cave post. Then I want you replace nicotine with cocaine or heroin. It's the voice of an addict trying to justify their addiction. I was reading comments on youtube from people trying to justify dipping because the cancer percentages are lower than smoker. But it all causes cancer.
Even with a "clean bill of health" you can still have the beginnings of carcinoma... how many people out there are wrongfully diagnosed or diagnosed late because of a bad doctor or radiologists reading? How many are diagnosed because they are a fucking moron and keep doing this shit?
Listen up, I am ending Day 15... I can guarantee you that this will pass after your first week. My brain is beginning to rewire itself and I haven;t craved after a meal in 3 days. Same with at work... any craving was a simple as just stopping, deep breath and saying "no". Then it passed. Just like your brain was used to dipping during certain times, your brain will begin to get used to not dipping during those same times. I have passed huge hurdles at work, which is where I dipped a lot!
I know I have more challenges ahead of me, but my determination to push through these first two weeks and remain optimistic has allowed my outcome to be much better. Now sack up with the rest of us June group quitters and let's make it to the HOF together!
If you need anything, PM me and I can give you my number!
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The truth is I have been making excuses for many years and the one I used the most was studies showing chewing tobacco has lower cancer risks and smoking. I admit the one I used tonight about the stress of quitting being worse for you than dipping was pretty pathetic.....you're 100% right, it was just me desperately trying to make excuses. My wife told me the same thing tonight.
I give you my word I am going to stay quit with you and the rest of the June group.....and you do the same. Let's do this!
Staying quit with you!
Just a thought and y'all can tell me to defecate in my hat but IMO when we "stay quit" or when you are "staying quit", you leave the door open to the possibility of not staying quit at some future time. Conversely, when you are Quit the door has been closed, the possibility has been taken off the table and you've "burned your bridges" for that day.
We don't stay quit, we're just quit... no matter what.
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
tobacco will not help you screw the chew,, you know this.
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
tobacco will not help you screw the chew,, you know this.
i'm on day 43 and you are feeling what i felt about a week ago,, it goes away in a couple day.
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
tobacco will not help you screw the chew,, you know this.
you would give anything??? where I live all I'd have to give is 5 bucks, 5 bucks to piss away all the days quit I've stacked up, 5 bucks to shit on my quit and my word, 5 bucks to shit on my brothers and sisters here. I wouldn't take a dip if you paid me, screw giving my hard earned money to hurt myself and my family here. As for what takes the place of the pride in youself that you think chew used to give you - yourself man, be proud of yourself, you can do anything you did with a dip without one, except look like a tool with a cat turd in his face...
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
This mindset needs to go bro! You need to find another way of relieving stress.
There are two things I don't miss about dipping... the hole in my wallet and that feeling of a first dip. I prefer my hard earned cash go towards other things. I never enjoyed the buzz of dipping. I dipped to reduce the anxiety of my crave for nicotine.
Now that I no longer crave the nicotine, I feel great! The physical cravings are thwarted with a mint or a piece of gum. The triggers for a crave are avoided by finding activities that reduce the trigger. Over the past month I have developed ways to divert my thinking away from a crave and before I knew it I have forgotten all about the craving. Now when I get a crave I often forget about before I can act. Feels great to have come this far.
I tell you what, if you've come this far and then you decide to throw it all away... we in June will be thoroughly upset.
Never Again For Any Reason!
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
It gets better.
However, you're letting the nic bitch whisper her lies to you. Nicotine didn't give you confidence or any other positive things.
All that dip did was curb the withdrawl you were feeling since the last dip. That's it, nothing more than that.
Years of feeding that addiction makes you think it's some wonder drug, but all it is slavery. You know that. You don't really want one. Tell that nic bitch to go to hell and take control.
Fuck slavery. Never again.
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
It gets better.
However, you're letting the nic bitch whisper her lies to you. Nicotine didn't give you confidence or any other positive things.
All that dip did was curb the withdrawl you were feeling since the last dip. That's it, nothing more than that.
Years of feeding that addiction makes you think it's some wonder drug, but all it is slavery. You know that. You don't really want one. Tell that nic bitch to go to hell and take control.
Fuck slavery. Never again.
STC your bullshitting yourself right now you know that right? When was the last time you got that "ahhh" feeling you speak of?? Years and years and years ago! Your 28 days into this quit so it all mental brother. Now is the time you reach down in those drawers, grab them fuckers,and tell the Nic Bitch to get bent.You are right quitting does suck at times, but it's also the most rewarding,most satisfying feeling I have felt since the birth of my daughter 17 years ago.You want to talk about self confidence, why in the fuck do you think sticking that worm shit in your face makes you anymore of a man?The rewiring process of your quit takes months and months not days and days man.Slow down and worry about what matters "today".Stay quit today and worry about tomorrow then. PM me if you need anything.OOh Yea......QLF today!!!
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
It gets better.
However, you're letting the nic bitch whisper her lies to you. Nicotine didn't give you confidence or any other positive things.
All that dip did was curb the withdrawl you were feeling since the last dip. That's it, nothing more than that.
Years of feeding that addiction makes you think it's some wonder drug, but all it is slavery. You know that. You don't really want one. Tell that nic bitch to go to hell and take control.
Fuck slavery. Never again.
STC your bullshitting yourself right now you know that right? When was the last time you got that "ahhh" feeling you speak of?? Years and years and years ago! Your 28 days into this quit so it all mental brother. Now is the time you reach down in those drawers, grab them fuckers,and tell the Nic Bitch to get bent.You are right quitting does suck at times, but it's also the most rewarding,most satisfying feeling I have felt since the birth of my daughter 17 years ago.You want to talk about self confidence, why in the fuck do you think sticking that worm shit in your face makes you anymore of a man?The rewiring process of your quit takes months and months not days and days man.Slow down and worry about what matters "today".Stay quit today and worry about tomorrow then. PM me if you need anything.OOh Yea......QLF today!!!
Hey Screw, I know exactly where you are man. When I go back to my intro on that 30 day mark I was crying out with the same wonder that you express today. Your words sound like my words exactly. Your addict mind is trying deparately to convince you that "you need it", "you want it", etc. It gets better man, keep fighting. You only have to win today, trust me, trust all these guys.
Lets get this straight, when you were dipping you wanted to quit. Now that your quit you want to use. Only one of those things can be the TRUTH, the other is a big fat LIE. I think it is pretty easy to figure out which is which. Call me man, anytime. I have been right where you are today. I will PM you my number.
Ryan
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
Do you know why you're not going to take a dip? Because you're not a pussy. Because you don't want to be hooked on a chemical that will kill you in one of the slowest, most agonizing ways possible, in front of your loved ones who will sit there watching you die. Because you want to wake up tomorrow and be happy...so happy...that you didn't cave. Remember, you quit. No option for opening the door again.
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
It gets better.
However, you're letting the nic bitch whisper her lies to you. Nicotine didn't give you confidence or any other positive things.
All that dip did was curb the withdrawl you were feeling since the last dip. That's it, nothing more than that.
Years of feeding that addiction makes you think it's some wonder drug, but all it is slavery. You know that. You don't really want one. Tell that nic bitch to go to hell and take control.
Fuck slavery. Never again.
STC your bullshitting yourself right now you know that right? When was the last time you got that "ahhh" feeling you speak of?? Years and years and years ago! Your 28 days into this quit so it all mental brother. Now is the time you reach down in those drawers, grab them fuckers,and tell the Nic Bitch to get bent.You are right quitting does suck at times, but it's also the most rewarding,most satisfying feeling I have felt since the birth of my daughter 17 years ago.You want to talk about self confidence, why in the fuck do you think sticking that worm shit in your face makes you anymore of a man?The rewiring process of your quit takes months and months not days and days man.Slow down and worry about what matters "today".Stay quit today and worry about tomorrow then. PM me if you need anything.OOh Yea......QLF today!!!
Hey Screw, I know exactly where you are man. When I go back to my intro on that 30 day mark I was crying out with the same wonder that you express today. Your words sound like my words exactly. Your addict mind is trying deparately to convince you that "you need it", "you want it", etc. It gets better man, keep fighting. You only have to win today, trust me, trust all these guys.
Lets get this straight, when you were dipping you wanted to quit. Now that your quit you want to use. Only one of those things can be the TRUTH, the other is a big fat LIE. I think it is pretty easy to figure out which is which. Call me man, anytime. I have been right where you are today. I will PM you my number.
Ryan
Ryan, thanks man.....I really appreciate it!
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I would give anything for a dip right now. Life has been extremely stressful lately and IÂ’ve always had my tobacco to help me through these timesÂ….know IÂ’m not alone on this one. There's nothing like that euphoria-like "ahhhhh" feeling of when you firs put a dip in and that self-confidence that you can take on the world and win. What takes the place of that? Anyone? I'm resisting with all my power but it fucking SUCKS....and life SUCKS without it! It's been 28 days.....when does the treachery and torture end? Does it ever end? Anyone? Fuck!
Do you know why you're not going to take a dip? Because you're not a pussy. Because you don't want to be hooked on a chemical that will kill you in one of the slowest, most agonizing ways possible, in front of your loved ones who will sit there watching you die. Because you want to wake up tomorrow and be happy...so happy...that you didn't cave. Remember, you quit. No option for opening the door again.
I know your right man. Thanks
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You guys really saved me again. I will remain nic free. This site works and all of you have come selflessly to my aid when I need it most. I will never forget. When I'm in a better place mentally with this addiction I want to give back.....be there for you all sharing my experiences and helping others.
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You guys really saved me again. I will remain nic free. This site works and all of you have come selflessly to my aid when I need it most. I will never forget. When I'm in a better place mentally with this addiction I want to give back.....be there for you all sharing my experiences and helping others.
June bros! We are here for you! shocker
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You guys really saved me again. I will remain nic free. This site works and all of you have come selflessly to my aid when I need it most. I will never forget. When I'm in a better place mentally with this addiction I want to give back.....be there for you all sharing my experiences and helping others.
June bros! We are here for you! shocker
Glad to see your out of the woods STC. What you were feeling yesterday was so much like I was feeling a week ago. When I hit the 30 mark I don't know what happened,, I felt good before that. All the sudden, baaaaam. The nic bitch came out of no where and dangeled that shit right in front of me. She gave me a dream all about it with smell, taste and memory. I had a rough couple of days and it gradually tapered off. You have a badass quit going on,, keep it up! We are taking this all the way to the house STC.
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You guys really saved me again. I will remain nic free. This site works and all of you have come selflessly to my aid when I need it most. I will never forget. When I'm in a better place mentally with this addiction I want to give back.....be there for you all sharing my experiences and helping others.
Im quit like fuck with you Screw! Now quit again, and move on. Own your quit.
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You guys really saved me again. I will remain nic free. This site works and all of you have come selflessly to my aid when I need it most. I will never forget. When I'm in a better place mentally with this addiction I want to give back.....be there for you all sharing my experiences and helping others.
No thank you is required. That is how this site works, its called Brotherhood. Just focus on you right now. Post roll, keep your promise. Be selfish with your quit, it is OK. In fact it is even advised, at least for the first 100 days. Help out where you can, but only if it helps you. Guard this quit with your life friend. It is very probable that your very life depends upon it. This is serious shit bro. You scared me yesterday. Keep putting up +1s.
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You guys really saved me again. I will remain nic free. This site works and all of you have come selflessly to my aid when I need it most. I will never forget. When I'm in a better place mentally with this addiction I want to give back.....be there for you all sharing my experiences and helping others.
No thank you is required. That is how this site works, its called Brotherhood. Just focus on you right now. Post roll, keep your promise. Be selfish with your quit, it is OK. In fact it is even advised, at least for the first 100 days. Help out where you can, but only if it helps you. Guard this quit with your life friend. It is very probable that your very life depends upon it. This is serious shit bro. You scared me yesterday. Keep putting up +1s.
BOOOOM!!!
Nice work...
got some quit wood going on over here...
QLAFM with STC
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Yeah, the craves are so bad lately. It's like out of nowhere the ex-Bitch (or was it the other way around?) is whispering evil cave thoughts into my head. It's probably stress. My wife had a biopsy and we had to wait all week to find out if she had cancer or not......thank God it was benign. That coped with work stress, family issues, etc. BUT I did NOT cave.
I was so fucking addicted for years like nothing you could imagine. If I was Native American, my nickname would be "One with bump in lip"!
Christ, this sucks so fucking bad man.
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Yeah, the craves are so bad lately. It's like out of nowhere the ex-Bitch (or was it the other way around?) is whispering evil cave thoughts into my head. It's probably stress. My wife had a biopsy and we had to wait all week to find out if she had cancer or not......thank God it was benign. That coped with work stress, family issues, etc. BUT I did NOT cave.
I was so fucking addicted for years like nothing you could imagine. If I was Native American, my nickname would be "One with bump in lip"!
Christ, this sucks so fucking bad man.
as I have said before....the spite cave and anxiety cave are the most dangerous
change your voice
if you were a native american, your name would be "badass mother fucking quitter!!!!"
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Yeah, the craves are so bad lately. It's like out of nowhere the ex-Bitch (or was it the other way around?) is whispering evil cave thoughts into my head. It's probably stress. My wife had a biopsy and we had to wait all week to find out if she had cancer or not......thank God it was benign. That coped with work stress, family issues, etc. BUT I did NOT cave.
I was so fucking addicted for years like nothing you could imagine. If I was Native American, my nickname would be "One with bump in lip"!
Christ, this sucks so fucking bad man.
as I have said before....the spite cave and anxiety cave are the most dangerous
change your voice
if you were a native american, your name would be "badass mother fucking quitter!!!!"
Fuck an A dude! They should add a "like" button to posts!
Some may have seen this already but check out this link man....funny as shit. Watch the video too.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... efid=85508 (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuck&defid=85508)
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
What the heck are you saying brother? Look at this site, look at all of the quitters that are on this site, and you do think it can be done? I think the better part is you dont want to do it?
You have done it once a day for 33 days, now you don't think you can do it anymore? You made a promise to me and a bunch of others that you would not have nic today, keep that promise.
Dont let her win, dont be another cave, who will come back here as a re-tread. Grab your nuts and suck it up and quit. Quit for you, for your family for everyone. Man it has not been easy, but I am so committed to this, I am not going to lose. You dont have permission to cave
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
What the heck are you saying brother? Look at this site, look at all of the quitters that are on this site, and you do think it can be done? I think the better part is you dont want to do it?
You have done it once a day for 33 days, now you don't think you can do it anymore? You made a promise to me and a bunch of others that you would not have nic today, keep that promise.
Dont let her win, dont be another cave, who will come back here as a re-tread. Grab your nuts and suck it up and quit. Quit for you, for your family for everyone. Man it has not been easy, but I am so committed to this, I am not going to lose. You dont have permission to cave
Come on stc. You got this man... I told you I had this happen to me around day 30. Im on day 49 and feel so much better. The nic bitch is trying real hard this time because she knows she's going to lose you for good. Don't you give in stc. Man up and lets take this to the house.
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
What the heck are you saying brother? Look at this site, look at all of the quitters that are on this site, and you do think it can be done? I think the better part is you dont want to do it?
You have done it once a day for 33 days, now you don't think you can do it anymore? You made a promise to me and a bunch of others that you would not have nic today, keep that promise.
Dont let her win, dont be another cave, who will come back here as a re-tread. Grab your nuts and suck it up and quit. Quit for you, for your family for everyone. Man it has not been easy, but I am so committed to this, I am not going to lose. You dont have permission to cave
Come on stc. You got this man... I told you I had this happen to me around day 30. Im on day 49 and feel so much better. The nic bitch is trying real hard this time because she knows she's going to lose you for good. Don't you give in stc. Man up and lets take this to the house.
STC on 3/3: "ItÂ’s like being in an abusive relationship where IÂ’m the victim. She makes you feel great when youÂ’re together but she plays mind games. She makes you depend upon her and soon she runs your lifeÂ…Â…all the while slowly stabbing you. Who needs that? I sure donÂ’t? ItÂ’s timeÂ…..you BITCH!"
These are your words. You see that you knew what you were talking about then. You'll get through this today. Let's post again tomorrow. You got this.
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
What the heck are you saying brother? Look at this site, look at all of the quitters that are on this site, and you do think it can be done? I think the better part is you dont want to do it?
You have done it once a day for 33 days, now you don't think you can do it anymore? You made a promise to me and a bunch of others that you would not have nic today, keep that promise.
Dont let her win, dont be another cave, who will come back here as a re-tread. Grab your nuts and suck it up and quit. Quit for you, for your family for everyone. Man it has not been easy, but I am so committed to this, I am not going to lose. You dont have permission to cave
Come on stc. You got this man... I told you I had this happen to me around day 30. Im on day 49 and feel so much better. The nic bitch is trying real hard this time because she knows she's going to lose you for good. Don't you give in stc. Man up and lets take this to the house.
STC on 3/3: "ItÂ’s like being in an abusive relationship where IÂ’m the victim. She makes you feel great when youÂ’re together but she plays mind games. She makes you depend upon her and soon she runs your lifeÂ…Â…all the while slowly stabbing you. Who needs that? I sure donÂ’t? ItÂ’s timeÂ…..you BITCH!"
These are your words. You see that you knew what you were talking about then. You'll get through this today. Let's post again tomorrow. You got this.
I get it. I really do. When I quit, it was like cutting off a limb.
It will get so much better.
It is 1000% worth it.
You can do this.
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
What the heck are you saying brother? Look at this site, look at all of the quitters that are on this site, and you do think it can be done? I think the better part is you dont want to do it?
You have done it once a day for 33 days, now you don't think you can do it anymore? You made a promise to me and a bunch of others that you would not have nic today, keep that promise.
Dont let her win, dont be another cave, who will come back here as a re-tread. Grab your nuts and suck it up and quit. Quit for you, for your family for everyone. Man it has not been easy, but I am so committed to this, I am not going to lose. You dont have permission to cave
10-4 Brother. I'm hanging in there.....barely hanging. I'm tapping into all the will power I have at this point.
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
What the heck are you saying brother? Look at this site, look at all of the quitters that are on this site, and you do think it can be done? I think the better part is you dont want to do it?
You have done it once a day for 33 days, now you don't think you can do it anymore? You made a promise to me and a bunch of others that you would not have nic today, keep that promise.
Dont let her win, dont be another cave, who will come back here as a re-tread. Grab your nuts and suck it up and quit. Quit for you, for your family for everyone. Man it has not been easy, but I am so committed to this, I am not going to lose. You dont have permission to cave
Come on stc. You got this man... I told you I had this happen to me around day 30. Im on day 49 and feel so much better. The nic bitch is trying real hard this time because she knows she's going to lose you for good. Don't you give in stc. Man up and lets take this to the house.
That's right, forgot about that srans. I'll take your word for it man. I'm holding on.
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Thanks everyone. I'm having a very tough time and didn't predict this would happen at day 30 or 33. I wish to God tobacco was good for you and dipping had health benes. I have to get my mind in the right place here, keep plugging at it, and hope that it will someday get better.
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Just like a lot of the guys said below me, It does get so much better. we all have had those tough times but you just have to hang in there and kick the bitch as hard as you can. If you ever need to vent or just talk feel free to pm me.
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
What the heck are you saying brother? Look at this site, look at all of the quitters that are on this site, and you do think it can be done? I think the better part is you dont want to do it?
You have done it once a day for 33 days, now you don't think you can do it anymore? You made a promise to me and a bunch of others that you would not have nic today, keep that promise.
Dont let her win, dont be another cave, who will come back here as a re-tread. Grab your nuts and suck it up and quit. Quit for you, for your family for everyone. Man it has not been easy, but I am so committed to this, I am not going to lose. You dont have permission to cave
Come on stc. You got this man... I told you I had this happen to me around day 30. Im on day 49 and feel so much better. The nic bitch is trying real hard this time because she knows she's going to lose you for good. Don't you give in stc. Man up and lets take this to the house.
That's right, forgot about that srans. I'll take your word for it man. I'm holding on.
Little story. I have a friend,, He quit with me same day and everything. I advised him I was using ktc and maybe he should. He said he would be fine. He's back to dipping and i'm not. I can see that he's wishing he would have stuck it out, I see it on his face everytime I talk to him. FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION MY FRIEND!!!! I don't know about you, but I wanted my life back and I know you do to,,, or you wouldn't be on day 33......
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I'm starting to think that quitting may be vertually impossible. I know this sounds weak and pathetic but do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit? I'm saying this because I don't know how much longer I can take this.....day 33 and it seems to be getting harder not better. The craves are becoming more pronounced, I'm irritable most of the time, and my overall productivity is lapsing. I don't want to be irritable, impatient, and short all the time to my wife and daughter. I know chewing causes cancer and could kill me and that's the main reason but shit man the stress and pain is getting worse.
I'm trying like hell to remain quit and not let myself, my family, and you all down. Trying like hell.
What the heck are you saying brother? Look at this site, look at all of the quitters that are on this site, and you do think it can be done? I think the better part is you dont want to do it?
You have done it once a day for 33 days, now you don't think you can do it anymore? You made a promise to me and a bunch of others that you would not have nic today, keep that promise.
Dont let her win, dont be another cave, who will come back here as a re-tread. Grab your nuts and suck it up and quit. Quit for you, for your family for everyone. Man it has not been easy, but I am so committed to this, I am not going to lose. You dont have permission to cave
Come on stc. You got this man... I told you I had this happen to me around day 30. Im on day 49 and feel so much better. The nic bitch is trying real hard this time because she knows she's going to lose you for good. Don't you give in stc. Man up and lets take this to the house.
That's right, forgot about that srans. I'll take your word for it man. I'm holding on.
Little story. I have a friend,, He quit with me same day and everything. I advised him I was using ktc and maybe he should. He said he would be fine. He's back to dipping and i'm not. I can see that he's wishing he would have stuck it out, I see it on his face everytime I talk to him. FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION MY FRIEND!!!! I don't know about you, but I wanted my life back and I know you do to,,, or you wouldn't be on day 33......
STC hey brother I know you are having some problems with this quit. I personally have made a few posts in your threads already,so why stop now. Right to your question then "do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes impossible to remain quit"? The obvious answer is No.You make a choice everyday to remain quit,the more days you can string together being quit the farther you should be from ever wanting to cave or use Nicotine again.This shit isn't easy,if it was there wouldn't be a site like KTC because everyone would stay quit.Nothing worth having or doing is ever easy.I'm not cured,hell I only have 60 days under my belt but I would put my 60 up against anyone's time that It is all a fucking mental game now.The physical part is done, it has been done.Stay strong brother,keep kicking that bitch right square in the face.QLF today.
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Thanks everyone. I'm having a very tough time and didn't predict this would happen at day 30 or 33. I wish to God tobacco was good for you and dipping had health benes. I have to get my mind in the right place here, keep plugging at it, and hope that it will someday get better.
First off, take the HOPE out of it because it WILL get better.
Second, your pretty sly with two pretty big intros. Had to do some searching as I was almost positive you're original intro was something about you losing a "friend".
I found it and dude...you chewed for 22 years...that's 8,030 days.
You have been quit for 33 days. The ratio of good to bad is still very fucked up. You can't beat, or even get comfortably away from an EIGHT THOUSAND day routine, in 33 days.
I know you want to. I did as well, but it's just not a reasonable expectation.
"do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit?"
FUCK NO. That is bullshit talk right there and you need to get that shit the fuck out your head.
You're funking, HARD! I get it. We have all been there. Part of me wants to tear you a new asshole, but I don't think that will do much good today.
You're down and filled with doubt. Fuck, you're wishing dip was somehow GOOD for you. Your shit is jacked UP.
You just have to grind it out my friend. You fucked yourself up for over 8,000 days. You have a lot of unraveling to do. We all did. 33 days is not enough time.
In the grand scheme, this is just a tiny snapshot of suck in your life. Things WILL get better. They have done so for ALL of us. You are not special or cursed. They will for you too.
Hang tough bro. We are here for you.
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Thanks everyone. I'm having a very tough time and didn't predict this would happen at day 30 or 33. I wish to God tobacco was good for you and dipping had health benes. I have to get my mind in the right place here, keep plugging at it, and hope that it will someday get better.
First off, take the HOPE out of it because it WILL get better.
Second, your pretty sly with two pretty big intros. Had to do some searching as I was almost positive you're original intro was something about you losing a "friend".
I found it and dude...you chewed for 22 years...that's 8,030 days.
You have been quit for 33 days. The ratio of good to bad is still very fucked up. You can't beat, or even get comfortably away from an EIGHT THOUSAND day routine, in 33 days.
I know you want to. I did as well, but it's just not a reasonable expectation.
"do you think there is a point a person crosses when using tobacco where it becomes next to impossible to remain quit?"
FUCK NO. That is bullshit talk right there and you need to get that shit the fuck out your head.
You're funking, HARD! I get it. We have all been there. Part of me wants to tear you a new asshole, but I don't think that will do much good today.
You're down and filled with doubt. Fuck, you're wishing dip was somehow GOOD for you. Your shit is jacked UP.
You just have to grind it out my friend. You fucked yourself up for over 8,000 days. You have a lot of unraveling to do. We all did. 33 days is not enough time.
In the grand scheme, this is just a tiny snapshot of suck in your life. Things WILL get better. They have done so for ALL of us. You are not special or cursed. They will for you too.
Hang tough bro. We are here for you.
Listen to Diesel, he speaks the truth. When you get like this, it is probably a funk. I have been through a couple of doozies and my advice to you is keep your eyes on your goal. Quit for today! If you have to force yourself to post roll. Put your head down and push through this shit, it might even get to the point where you think it will never get better. You know what, it does get better. One day you will wake up and all of a sudden things arent so bad. get your ass into chat, those guys will set you straight. We can't help if you don't use the tools available, chat, numbers (how many of those do you have?), and venting here are all great ways to get through a funk. You need help, pm me and I will do what I can.
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I know what you guys speak is the truth and nothing but the truth. You're right.....the truth is I've been a huge addict for 22 years and I can't expect it all to go away in 34 days.
I really do believe the tobacco companies intentionally put a chemical in tobacco that greatly enhances the addiction....it's so fucked up what big corporations, lobbies, and of course money will buy you. I know it's my fault for doing this shit in the first place but these fuckers need to be exposed for the poisons they create, promote, and sell.
I feel beetr today and hopefully the FUNK in gone for now. Maybe a was just hurdling over a milestone mentally or something.
In the past month since quitting, I have been unmotivated, lazy, depressed, irritable, and not really working out and playing sports; I gained three pounds. Today I feel motivated like I havenÂ’t felt in a long time. I know in my mind that it is time for me to get myself out of this lazy, weak, self-absorbed slump and start getting my life backÂ….my way!
I'm not saying this will be the last time I need help (I'm sure it won't) but thanks for being there and helping everyone
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I know what you guys speak is the truth and nothing but the truth. You're right.....the truth is I've been a huge addict for 22 years and I can't expect it all to go away in 34 days.
I really do believe the tobacco companies intentionally put a chemical in tobacco that greatly enhances the addiction....it's so fucked up what big corporations, lobbies, and of course money will buy you. I know it's my fault for doing this shit in the first place but these fuckers need to be exposed for the poisons they create, promote, and sell.
I feel beetr today and hopefully the FUNK in gone for now. Maybe a was just hurdling over a milestone mentally or something.
In the past month since quitting, I have been unmotivated, lazy, depressed, irritable, and not really working out and playing sports; I gained three pounds. Today I feel motivated like I havenÂ’t felt in a long time. I know in my mind that it is time for me to get myself out of this lazy, weak, self-absorbed slump and start getting my life backÂ….my way!
I'm not saying this will be the last time I need help (I'm sure it won't) but thanks for being there and helping everyone
I sent you a text today, brother! Ill do it everyday if you want. I may do it everyday just to bug the ever living shit out of you.
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I know what you guys speak is the truth and nothing but the truth. You're right.....the truth is I've been a huge addict for 22 years and I can't expect it all to go away in 34 days.
I really do believe the tobacco companies intentionally put a chemical in tobacco that greatly enhances the addiction....it's so fucked up what big corporations, lobbies, and of course money will buy you. I know it's my fault for doing this shit in the first place but these fuckers need to be exposed for the poisons they create, promote, and sell.
I feel beetr today and hopefully the FUNK in gone for now. Maybe a was just hurdling over a milestone mentally or something.
In the past month since quitting, I have been unmotivated, lazy, depressed, irritable, and not really working out and playing sports; I gained three pounds. Today I feel motivated like I havenÂ’t felt in a long time. I know in my mind that it is time for me to get myself out of this lazy, weak, self-absorbed slump and start getting my life backÂ….my way!
I'm not saying this will be the last time I need help (I'm sure it won't) but thanks for being there and helping everyone
You will go through many funk periods, and many craves, but it will get better. Just take it one day, one hour or one minute at a time.
Give big tobacco the finger today, that's all you need to do. Do not let them win. I too dipped for 22 years, and now I have been nic free for 379 days. If my addicted butt can do it, then so can yours. Your addiction isn't any worse than mine was. Just post roll and quit each day. That's all it takes.
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http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
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I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
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http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
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http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Naah, no doubt in my mind. After listening to what you said, I do agree that this kind of link should not exist on this site, so I removed my re-link.
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http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Naah, no doubt in my mind. After listening to what you said, I do agree that this kind of link should not exist on this site, so I removed my re-link.
Someone posted a similar site last year I think. Turns out the "research" on that particular site was funded by none other than the big tobacco companies!
Go figure, the big tobacco companies don't want people to stop using their products, so they come up with this bullshit called "Tobacco Harm Reduction". Well I call it "Keep buying our products so we can make more money!"
If you're quit you know cold turkey works and you know this garbage funded by big tobacco is pure BS.
'B.S.'
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http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Naah, no doubt in my mind. After listening to what you said, I do agree that this kind of link should not exist on this site, so I removed my re-link.
Someone posted a similar site last year I think. Turns out the "research" on that particular site was funded by none other than the big tobacco companies!
Go figure, the big tobacco companies don't want people to stop using their products, so they come up with this bullshit called "Tobacco Harm Reduction". Well I call it "Keep buying our products so we can make more money!"
If you're quit you know cold turkey works and you know this garbage funded by big tobacco is pure BS.
'B.S.'
Screw, I know you have been having a hard time. But, listen man, if your going to go around looking for research that says it's ok to proceed with a cancer causing habit, your going down the wrong road.
Hell pick up the phone and call 10 dentists and see what they say. Dont plan for a cave, this shit did not become cancer free overnight.
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http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Naah, no doubt in my mind. After listening to what you said, I do agree that this kind of link should not exist on this site, so I removed my re-link.
Someone posted a similar site last year I think. Turns out the "research" on that particular site was funded by none other than the big tobacco companies!
Go figure, the big tobacco companies don't want people to stop using their products, so they come up with this bullshit called "Tobacco Harm Reduction". Well I call it "Keep buying our products so we can make more money!"
If you're quit you know cold turkey works and you know this garbage funded by big tobacco is pure BS.
'B.S.'
Screw, I know you have been having a hard time. But, listen man, if your going to go around looking for research that says it's ok to proceed with a cancer causing habit, your going down the wrong road.
Hell pick up the phone and call 10 dentists and see what they say. Dont plan for a cave, this shit did not become cancer free overnight.
I emailed back and forth with the Dr. Radu dude a year or so ago. Y
Yes...I am THAT guy. The guy admits tobacco can fuck your shit up and says he does not promote use of any kind
Rodu,Brad brad.rodu@louisville.edu (http://mailto:brad.rodu@louisville.edu)
11/12/12
to me
Dear Craig,
Thanks for your message. First and foremost, I do not promote tobacco use of any kind.
Then he tries to say big tobacco really isn't to blame...
I have never swept nicotine and tobacco addiction under the rug. On the contrary, it is the most powerful of human addictions, which is why tobacco harm reduction is so critical for people who are unwilling or unable to achieve abstinence. The addictive power of tobacco is illustrated by this: it was originally cultivated only in the Western Hemisphere and was used by native Americans for thousands of years. In 1492 Columbus discovered the new world, and he also discovered tobacco. In the short space of 100 years, tobacco was being consumed by people in nearly every corner of the globe. This phenomenal explosion happened at a time when a trans-oceanic voyage took months. In the 16th Century Big Tobacco did not exist; consumption was driven then – as consumption is largely driven now – by the human brain’s powerful affinity for tobacco and nicotine.
Brad Rodu
Professor of Medicine
Endowed Chair, Tobacco Harm Reduction Research
School of Medicine
University of Louisville
505 South Hancock Street
Louisville, KY 40204
Phone 502-852-7793
Fax 502-852-7979
Email brad.rodu@louisville.edu (http://mailto:brad.rodu@louisville.edu)
www.smokersonly.org (http://www.smokersonly.org)
rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com
It's not wonder he defends big tobacco. Look at this 5 year unlimited grant he got from them...
From 1999 to 2004 the University of Alabama at Birmingham received a five-year unrestricted research grant from the United States Smokeless Tobacco Company of Greenwich, Connecticut. The award supported the UAB Tobacco Research Fund, and the principal investigator was Brad Rodu. The agreement between USSTC and UAB broke new ground with regard to industry-sponsored university research. The award was completely unrestricted; the agreement specified that UAB had no obligation to USSTC regarding consequential work products. The grantor had no scientific input or other influence regarding the nature of the research projects or activities and did not have access to research reports prior to their publication. In other words, the structure of this agreement exceeded UAB guidelines with regard to financial support from external sources, and it imposed absolutely no restrictions on academic freedom in the undertaking and communication of funded research. A scientific advisory board oversaw the program. Publications or other work on this Web site supported by the UAB Tobacco Research Fund are clearly marked by the notation (UAB TRF).
In 2005 Dr. Rodu joined the University of Louisville as a professor of medicine and the first holder of an endowed chair in tobacco harm reduction research. Financial support for the endowed chair and research activities was made possible by grants from USSTC and Swedish Match (based in Stockholm, Sweden with North American operations based in Richmond, Virginia). In 2009, U of L received separate grants from Reynolds American Inc. Services Company and Altria Client Services. All U of L grants are unrestricted, which ensures the scientific independence and integrity of research projects and activities.
Bottom line though, is who gives a fuck. It doesnt take a Doctor to figure out chew is fucking bad for you.
I quit for ME and ME only and I will help any other mother fucker on this site to help break free from the chains of nicotine addiction.
In fact reading all this shit cements my quit even further as the right thing to do.
Fuck Dr. Rodu, Fuck chew, fuck nicotine, fuck being a slave, fuck anyone who is against us, and fuck nicotine harm reduction. What a fucking oxymoron that is.
I choose Tobacco Harm ELIMINATION.
Anyone else care to join me?
Quit with every swinging dick and vag on this site. Even trannys if we have any. Ahh, who am I kidding we have some. I quit with you fuckers too.
-
http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Naah, no doubt in my mind. After listening to what you said, I do agree that this kind of link should not exist on this site, so I removed my re-link.
Someone posted a similar site last year I think. Turns out the "research" on that particular site was funded by none other than the big tobacco companies!
Go figure, the big tobacco companies don't want people to stop using their products, so they come up with this bullshit called "Tobacco Harm Reduction". Well I call it "Keep buying our products so we can make more money!"
If you're quit you know cold turkey works and you know this garbage funded by big tobacco is pure BS.
'B.S.'
Screw, I know you have been having a hard time. But, listen man, if your going to go around looking for research that says it's ok to proceed with a cancer causing habit, your going down the wrong road.
Hell pick up the phone and call 10 dentists and see what they say. Dont plan for a cave, this shit did not become cancer free overnight.
I emailed back and forth with the Dr. Radu dude a year or so ago. Y
Yes...I am THAT guy. The guy admits tobacco can fuck your shit up and says he does not promote use of any kind
Rodu,Brad brad.rodu@louisville.edu (http://mailto:brad.rodu@louisville.edu)
11/12/12
to me
Dear Craig,
Thanks for your message. First and foremost, I do not promote tobacco use of any kind.
Then he tries to say big tobacco really isn't to blame...
I have never swept nicotine and tobacco addiction under the rug. On the contrary, it is the most powerful of human addictions, which is why tobacco harm reduction is so critical for people who are unwilling or unable to achieve abstinence. The addictive power of tobacco is illustrated by this: it was originally cultivated only in the Western Hemisphere and was used by native Americans for thousands of years. In 1492 Columbus discovered the new world, and he also discovered tobacco. In the short space of 100 years, tobacco was being consumed by people in nearly every corner of the globe. This phenomenal explosion happened at a time when a trans-oceanic voyage took months. In the 16th Century Big Tobacco did not exist; consumption was driven then – as consumption is largely driven now – by the human brain’s powerful affinity for tobacco and nicotine.
Brad Rodu
Professor of Medicine
Endowed Chair, Tobacco Harm Reduction Research
School of Medicine
University of Louisville
505 South Hancock Street
Louisville, KY 40204
Phone 502-852-7793
Fax 502-852-7979
Email brad.rodu@louisville.edu (http://mailto:brad.rodu@louisville.edu)
www.smokersonly.org (http://www.smokersonly.org)
rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com
It's not wonder he defends big tobacco. Look at this 5 year unlimited grant he got from them...
From 1999 to 2004 the University of Alabama at Birmingham received a five-year unrestricted research grant from the United States Smokeless Tobacco Company of Greenwich, Connecticut. The award supported the UAB Tobacco Research Fund, and the principal investigator was Brad Rodu. The agreement between USSTC and UAB broke new ground with regard to industry-sponsored university research. The award was completely unrestricted; the agreement specified that UAB had no obligation to USSTC regarding consequential work products. The grantor had no scientific input or other influence regarding the nature of the research projects or activities and did not have access to research reports prior to their publication. In other words, the structure of this agreement exceeded UAB guidelines with regard to financial support from external sources, and it imposed absolutely no restrictions on academic freedom in the undertaking and communication of funded research. A scientific advisory board oversaw the program. Publications or other work on this Web site supported by the UAB Tobacco Research Fund are clearly marked by the notation (UAB TRF).
In 2005 Dr. Rodu joined the University of Louisville as a professor of medicine and the first holder of an endowed chair in tobacco harm reduction research. Financial support for the endowed chair and research activities was made possible by grants from USSTC and Swedish Match (based in Stockholm, Sweden with North American operations based in Richmond, Virginia). In 2009, U of L received separate grants from Reynolds American Inc. Services Company and Altria Client Services. All U of L grants are unrestricted, which ensures the scientific independence and integrity of research projects and activities.
Bottom line though, is who gives a fuck. It doesnt take a Doctor to figure out chew is fucking bad for you.
I quit for ME and ME only and I will help any other mother fucker on this site to help break free from the chains of nicotine addiction.
In fact reading all this shit cements my quit even further as the right thing to do.
Fuck Dr. Rodu, Fuck chew, fuck nicotine, fuck being a slave, fuck anyone who is against us, and fuck nicotine harm reduction. What a fucking oxymoron that is.
I choose Tobacco Harm ELIMINATION.
Anyone else care to join me?
Quit with every swinging dick and vag on this site. Even trannys if we have any. Ahh, who am I kidding we have some. I quit with you fuckers too.
STC, I see this along with your post today in Buc2's intro. I hope you aren't just planning a cave. Let me know if you need anything. Stay strong.
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http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Naah, no doubt in my mind. After listening to what you said, I do agree that this kind of link should not exist on this site, so I removed my re-link.
Someone posted a similar site last year I think. Turns out the "research" on that particular site was funded by none other than the big tobacco companies!
Go figure, the big tobacco companies don't want people to stop using their products, so they come up with this bullshit called "Tobacco Harm Reduction". Well I call it "Keep buying our products so we can make more money!"
If you're quit you know cold turkey works and you know this garbage funded by big tobacco is pure BS.
'B.S.'
Screw, I know you have been having a hard time. But, listen man, if your going to go around looking for research that says it's ok to proceed with a cancer causing habit, your going down the wrong road.
Hell pick up the phone and call 10 dentists and see what they say. Dont plan for a cave, this shit did not become cancer free overnight.
I emailed back and forth with the Dr. Radu dude a year or so ago. Y
Yes...I am THAT guy. The guy admits tobacco can fuck your shit up and says he does not promote use of any kind
Rodu,Brad brad.rodu@louisville.edu (http://mailto:brad.rodu@louisville.edu)
11/12/12
to me
Dear Craig,
Thanks for your message. First and foremost, I do not promote tobacco use of any kind.
Then he tries to say big tobacco really isn't to blame...
I have never swept nicotine and tobacco addiction under the rug. On the contrary, it is the most powerful of human addictions, which is why tobacco harm reduction is so critical for people who are unwilling or unable to achieve abstinence. The addictive power of tobacco is illustrated by this: it was originally cultivated only in the Western Hemisphere and was used by native Americans for thousands of years. In 1492 Columbus discovered the new world, and he also discovered tobacco. In the short space of 100 years, tobacco was being consumed by people in nearly every corner of the globe. This phenomenal explosion happened at a time when a trans-oceanic voyage took months. In the 16th Century Big Tobacco did not exist; consumption was driven then – as consumption is largely driven now – by the human brain’s powerful affinity for tobacco and nicotine.
Brad Rodu
Professor of Medicine
Endowed Chair, Tobacco Harm Reduction Research
School of Medicine
University of Louisville
505 South Hancock Street
Louisville, KY 40204
Phone 502-852-7793
Fax 502-852-7979
Email brad.rodu@louisville.edu (http://mailto:brad.rodu@louisville.edu)
www.smokersonly.org (http://www.smokersonly.org)
rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com
It's not wonder he defends big tobacco. Look at this 5 year unlimited grant he got from them...
From 1999 to 2004 the University of Alabama at Birmingham received a five-year unrestricted research grant from the United States Smokeless Tobacco Company of Greenwich, Connecticut. The award supported the UAB Tobacco Research Fund, and the principal investigator was Brad Rodu. The agreement between USSTC and UAB broke new ground with regard to industry-sponsored university research. The award was completely unrestricted; the agreement specified that UAB had no obligation to USSTC regarding consequential work products. The grantor had no scientific input or other influence regarding the nature of the research projects or activities and did not have access to research reports prior to their publication. In other words, the structure of this agreement exceeded UAB guidelines with regard to financial support from external sources, and it imposed absolutely no restrictions on academic freedom in the undertaking and communication of funded research. A scientific advisory board oversaw the program. Publications or other work on this Web site supported by the UAB Tobacco Research Fund are clearly marked by the notation (UAB TRF).
In 2005 Dr. Rodu joined the University of Louisville as a professor of medicine and the first holder of an endowed chair in tobacco harm reduction research. Financial support for the endowed chair and research activities was made possible by grants from USSTC and Swedish Match (based in Stockholm, Sweden with North American operations based in Richmond, Virginia). In 2009, U of L received separate grants from Reynolds American Inc. Services Company and Altria Client Services. All U of L grants are unrestricted, which ensures the scientific independence and integrity of research projects and activities.
Bottom line though, is who gives a fuck. It doesnt take a Doctor to figure out chew is fucking bad for you.
I quit for ME and ME only and I will help any other mother fucker on this site to help break free from the chains of nicotine addiction.
In fact reading all this shit cements my quit even further as the right thing to do.
Fuck Dr. Rodu, Fuck chew, fuck nicotine, fuck being a slave, fuck anyone who is against us, and fuck nicotine harm reduction. What a fucking oxymoron that is.
I choose Tobacco Harm ELIMINATION.
Anyone else care to join me?
Quit with every swinging dick and vag on this site. Even trannys if we have any. Ahh, who am I kidding we have some. I quit with you fuckers too.
FUCK YES!! I love it, I am with you.
-
http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Naah, no doubt in my mind. After listening to what you said, I do agree that this kind of link should not exist on this site, so I removed my re-link.
Someone posted a similar site last year I think. Turns out the "research" on that particular site was funded by none other than the big tobacco companies!
Go figure, the big tobacco companies don't want people to stop using their products, so they come up with this bullshit called "Tobacco Harm Reduction". Well I call it "Keep buying our products so we can make more money!"
If you're quit you know cold turkey works and you know this garbage funded by big tobacco is pure BS.
'B.S.'
Screw, I know you have been having a hard time. But, listen man, if your going to go around looking for research that says it's ok to proceed with a cancer causing habit, your going down the wrong road.
Hell pick up the phone and call 10 dentists and see what they say. Dont plan for a cave, this shit did not become cancer free overnight.
I emailed back and forth with the Dr. Radu dude a year or so ago. Y
Yes...I am THAT guy. The guy admits tobacco can fuck your shit up and says he does not promote use of any kind
Rodu,Brad brad.rodu@louisville.edu (http://mailto:brad.rodu@louisville.edu)
11/12/12
to me
Dear Craig,
Thanks for your message. First and foremost, I do not promote tobacco use of any kind.
Then he tries to say big tobacco really isn't to blame...
I have never swept nicotine and tobacco addiction under the rug. On the contrary, it is the most powerful of human addictions, which is why tobacco harm reduction is so critical for people who are unwilling or unable to achieve abstinence. The addictive power of tobacco is illustrated by this: it was originally cultivated only in the Western Hemisphere and was used by native Americans for thousands of years. In 1492 Columbus discovered the new world, and he also discovered tobacco. In the short space of 100 years, tobacco was being consumed by people in nearly every corner of the globe. This phenomenal explosion happened at a time when a trans-oceanic voyage took months. In the 16th Century Big Tobacco did not exist; consumption was driven then – as consumption is largely driven now – by the human brain’s powerful affinity for tobacco and nicotine.
Brad Rodu
Professor of Medicine
Endowed Chair, Tobacco Harm Reduction Research
School of Medicine
University of Louisville
505 South Hancock Street
Louisville, KY 40204
Phone 502-852-7793
Fax 502-852-7979
Email brad.rodu@louisville.edu (http://mailto:brad.rodu@louisville.edu)
www.smokersonly.org (http://www.smokersonly.org)
rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com
It's not wonder he defends big tobacco. Look at this 5 year unlimited grant he got from them...
From 1999 to 2004 the University of Alabama at Birmingham received a five-year unrestricted research grant from the United States Smokeless Tobacco Company of Greenwich, Connecticut. The award supported the UAB Tobacco Research Fund, and the principal investigator was Brad Rodu. The agreement between USSTC and UAB broke new ground with regard to industry-sponsored university research. The award was completely unrestricted; the agreement specified that UAB had no obligation to USSTC regarding consequential work products. The grantor had no scientific input or other influence regarding the nature of the research projects or activities and did not have access to research reports prior to their publication. In other words, the structure of this agreement exceeded UAB guidelines with regard to financial support from external sources, and it imposed absolutely no restrictions on academic freedom in the undertaking and communication of funded research. A scientific advisory board oversaw the program. Publications or other work on this Web site supported by the UAB Tobacco Research Fund are clearly marked by the notation (UAB TRF).
In 2005 Dr. Rodu joined the University of Louisville as a professor of medicine and the first holder of an endowed chair in tobacco harm reduction research. Financial support for the endowed chair and research activities was made possible by grants from USSTC and Swedish Match (based in Stockholm, Sweden with North American operations based in Richmond, Virginia). In 2009, U of L received separate grants from Reynolds American Inc. Services Company and Altria Client Services. All U of L grants are unrestricted, which ensures the scientific independence and integrity of research projects and activities.
Bottom line though, is who gives a fuck. It doesnt take a Doctor to figure out chew is fucking bad for you.
I quit for ME and ME only and I will help any other mother fucker on this site to help break free from the chains of nicotine addiction.
In fact reading all this shit cements my quit even further as the right thing to do.
Fuck Dr. Rodu, Fuck chew, fuck nicotine, fuck being a slave, fuck anyone who is against us, and fuck nicotine harm reduction. What a fucking oxymoron that is.
I choose Tobacco Harm ELIMINATION.
Anyone else care to join me?
Quit with every swinging dick and vag on this site. Even trannys if we have any. Ahh, who am I kidding we have some. I quit with you fuckers too.
FUCK YES!! I love it, I am with you.
Diesel is a ROCK-GOD OF QUIT!!!! Fuck man....total quit wood....!!!
-
http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Relax Diesel. I actual typed in "smokeless tobacco", "harm", "health" in Google originally looking for just the opposite of what you think and happened to see this site and found it interesting. Interesting because it contradicts everything I've ever read about tobacco use so wanted to see how they justify what they are saying.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs if we can't have an open discussions about things like this........didn't you yourself have an email discussion with Brad Rodu? (thanks for posting that by the way).
Yes I am having a hard time with my quit but isn't that why we are all here in the first place? To be honest I HAVE looked for justification to start using again. How many addicts on this site can honestly say they themselves never did? That's the addiction...it's a fucking struggle and I realize it for what it is.
The cancer aside, the honest truth is chew causes so many other symptoms and disease such as high blood pressure/heart rate, gastric issues, poor circulation, and cardiovascular/heart diseases just to name a few. Knowing this, reading and discussing a site like the one I posted does not persuade me nor would I expect it with any of you.
I'm not sure why I'm telling you all of this anyway. I'm all for being passionate about a quit but lighten up and stop being such a fucking drama king about everything.
-
http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Relax Diesel. I actual typed in "smokeless tobacco", "harm", "health" in Google originally looking for just the opposite of what you think and happened to see this site and found it interesting. Interesting because it contradicts everything I've ever read about tobacco use so wanted to see how they justify what they are saying.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs if we can't have an open discussions about things like this........didn't you yourself have an email discussion with Brad Rodu? (thanks for posting that by the way).
Yes I am having a hard time with my quit but isn't that why we are all here in the first place? To be honest I HAVE looked for justification to start using again. How many addicts on this site can honestly say they themselves never did? That's the addiction...it's a fucking struggle and I realize it for what it is.
The cancer aside, the honest truth is chew causes so many other symptoms and disease such as high blood pressure/heart rate, gastric issues, poor circulation, and cardiovascular/heart diseases just to name a few. Knowing this, reading and discussing a site like the one I posted does not persuade me nor would I expect it with any of you.
I'm not sure why I'm telling you all of this anyway. I'm all for being passionate about a quit but lighten up and stop being such a fucking drama king about everything.
No dude. I won't relax. I careed about your quit. You seemed to be teetering on the edge for awhile now. I read this and immediately though, "this dude's looking to go back to the can".
I would hate to see anyone do that.
Im very passionate about this stuff.
But if you think I need to lighten up and stop being a drama king about everything.
Well...fuck you. I don't do it for the "drama" I do it becaused I cared and hoped to help you with some tough love and actual dialogue with the guy who wrote the page you had the link to.
I thought you needed a kick in the pants. But I guess I'm just a drama king about EVERYTHING.
I will give you your wish. Ill stop following your quit and you can forget I even exist.
Ill lighten up and take my drama elsewhere.
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http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq ... obacco.htm (http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/smokelesstobacco.htm)
I'm not promoting or saying I agree but check out this website above.
How much bullshit is this? But It has references to recent studies and is written by what looks like a well established dentist and a researcher.
Read through this and it contradicts almost everything I have ever read about smokeless tobacco. I guess I will just put this one in the category that you can not believe everything you read on the internet.
What is this shit? You fucking put a link to some tobacco harm reduction site on KTC? Are you fucking stupid?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
Thus may be all a young quittter needs to see to justify going back to the can. Look at newbie, Quit. His statement is very telling. I believe you put doubt into his mind.
Why?
Sounds like soimeone is looking for a reason to cave? Maybe a little justification? Or did you just watch a fucking mudjug video on youtube? I believe this is that idiots Bible.
You REALLY want to pracrice tobacco harm reduction...fucking don't use any at all. How about that.
Throw cancer the the fuck out the window too. I mean its an obvious risk factor to using but lets just forget that, for now.
What about NICOTINE, you know, "The Bitch"
Shes the one that will have you by the balls. Controlling your life, draining you wallet, making you think you cant do the simplest task without her. Shes the one that caused me to have panic attacks, anxiety attacks, become depressed, have unthinkable thoughts when I tired to quit her. They don't really mention her too much. Shes the one who caused me to miss countless moments with my kids as I had to sneak away to be alone with her.
No MAN should be controlled like that by ANYTHING.
For me, that's what quitting was ultimately about. And I think that's what its about for most who come here. They are tired of it all. They are sick of being a slave to a can of weeds. And despite what you posted here, health risks from dip is very real. I'm sure you could find a million pages on that.
Again, not sure what hour fucking point is by posting this shit. My best guess is your pussy ass is getting weak and looking for reasons to go back to the can.
Go back if its so safe. Nobody here has you hand cuffed to a jail cell. But if you do go back the nic bitch will be laughing and rolling a blunt as another victim comes crawling back. Big tobacco will be thankful too.
Keep this fucking shit out of here.
Relax Diesel. I actual typed in "smokeless tobacco", "harm", "health" in Google originally looking for just the opposite of what you think and happened to see this site and found it interesting. Interesting because it contradicts everything I've ever read about tobacco use so wanted to see how they justify what they are saying.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs if we can't have an open discussions about things like this........didn't you yourself have an email discussion with Brad Rodu? (thanks for posting that by the way).
Yes I am having a hard time with my quit but isn't that why we are all here in the first place? To be honest I HAVE looked for justification to start using again. How many addicts on this site can honestly say they themselves never did? That's the addiction...it's a fucking struggle and I realize it for what it is.
The cancer aside, the honest truth is chew causes so many other symptoms and disease such as high blood pressure/heart rate, gastric issues, poor circulation, and cardiovascular/heart diseases just to name a few. Knowing this, reading and discussing a site like the one I posted does not persuade me nor would I expect it with any of you.
I'm not sure why I'm telling you all of this anyway. I'm all for being passionate about a quit but lighten up and stop being such a fucking drama king about everything.
No dude. I won't relax. I careed about your quit. You seemed to be teetering on the edge for awhile now. I read this and immediately though, "this dude's looking to go back to the can".
I would hate to see anyone do that.
Im very passionate about this stuff.
But if you think I need to lighten up and stop being a drama king about everything.
Well...fuck you. I don't do it for the "drama" I do it becaused I cared and hoped to help you with some tough love and actual dialogue with the guy who wrote the page you had the link to.
I thought you needed a kick in the pants. But I guess I'm just a drama king about EVERYTHING.
I will give you your wish. Ill stop following your quit and you can forget I even exist.
Ill lighten up and take my drama elsewhere.
I love the drama king. I want Diesel in my corner every day that ends with a y. Period!!!
Mr. Screw, in the future if you're still quit and have learned to hate tobacco and what it really does and will do to us, then you'll humbly apologize to the drama king who cares about your tongue and jaw.
Keep reading Mr. Screw, learn all you can. Better yet, take a stroll down the cancer ward halls at your local hospital. Bet you don't know what floor it is on. Cancer from nictotine is real. It took my parents and all of my moms people.
The poison is real. Guzzle the quit kool-aid brother and live longer and healthier.
ODAAT
NAFAR
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it.
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it.
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
First of all, there's only one quit God, his name is Chewie and he lives in a magical land where the quit flows freely (Ohio). Second, there will always be drama, this is where addicts go to blow steam, wtf do you expect? Lastly, I saw the post when you first posted it, sounded like addict talk. I don't put up with addict talk so I choose not to read it all the way thru. Being blinded by hatred of nicotine is a bad thing? These gheys may have gone full ghey....er, but they mean well. Immaturity? Fuck yea! You sitting on a throne? Just take what you need, leave the rest. Post roll, text your brothers, and STAY QUIT, that's what's important.
I hope you're not saying you're leaving, over drama...seriously, who the fuck does that (inside joke, pm me for details).
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it.
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
Ill take that bet and every cent you have.
Also I have come to terms with my addiction and my hatred has not subsided. Why would it? You think I'm fake? well im not.
Im no "quit God" and I don't constantly use immature language and belittle people.
But I don't want you to leave the site so I will apologize for hurting your feelings and stay off your intro.
Stay quit.
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it.
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
It's funny. Every quit group has at least one stopper who uses the o'le pompous "I'm better than you" planned cave excuse to take his ball and go home. We are addicts and we know what you are trying to do. Hopefully you can see this before it is too late.
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it.Â
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
It's funny. Every quit group has at least one stopper who uses the o'le pompous "I'm better than you" planned cave excuse to take his ball and go home. We are addicts and we know what you are trying to do. Hopefully you can see this before it is too late.
anyone know where this pussy went?
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it. Â
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
It's funny. Every quit group has at least one stopper who uses the o'le pompous "I'm better than you" planned cave excuse to take his ball and go home. We are addicts and we know what you are trying to do. Hopefully you can see this before it is too late.
anyone know where this pussy went?
Maybe he really did buy into thst tobacco harm reduction shit he posted, or maybe he's finger banging and chin dipping like a fool, or maybe he's quit? (Doubt it)
Either way, I'M an asshole for jumping in his shit after seeing he was looking for justification for using again.
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it. Â
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
It's funny. Every quit group has at least one stopper who uses the o'le pompous "I'm better than you" planned cave excuse to take his ball and go home. We are addicts and we know what you are trying to do. Hopefully you can see this before it is too late.
anyone know where this pussy went?
Maybe he really did buy into thst tobacco harm reduction shit he posted, or maybe he's finger banging and chin dipping like a fool, or maybe he's quit? (Doubt it)
Either way, I'M an asshole for jumping in his shit after seeing he was looking for justification for using again.
Diesel....you da man bro....and I love you.....fuck this guy
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it. Â
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
It's funny. Every quit group has at least one stopper who uses the o'le pompous "I'm better than you" planned cave excuse to take his ball and go home. We are addicts and we know what you are trying to do. Hopefully you can see this before it is too late.
anyone know where this pussy went?
Maybe he really did buy into thst tobacco harm reduction shit he posted, or maybe he's finger banging and chin dipping like a fool, or maybe he's quit? (Doubt it)
Either way, I'M an asshole for jumping in his shit after seeing he was looking for justification for using again.
Diesel....you da man bro....and I love you.....fuck this guy
newbies....read this thread.........classic caver...........CLASSIC.......don't be this guy..........POWWWWWW
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it. Â
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
It's funny. Every quit group has at least one stopper who uses the o'le pompous "I'm better than you" planned cave excuse to take his ball and go home. We are addicts and we know what you are trying to do. Hopefully you can see this before it is too late.
anyone know where this pussy went?
Maybe he really did buy into thst tobacco harm reduction shit he posted, or maybe he's finger banging and chin dipping like a fool, or maybe he's quit? (Doubt it)
Either way, I'M an asshole for jumping in his shit after seeing he was looking for justification for using again.
Diesel....you da man bro....and I love you.....fuck this guy
newbies....read this thread.........classic caver...........CLASSIC.......don't be this guy..........POWWWWWW
Put on some tall rubber boots first, because their is a TON of bullshit.
This cat was heading for a cave for a long time.
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30,
JC what is wrong with you people? I clearly said in my post that I know tobacco causes many other diseases besides cancer........after me saying that, how does this constitute a lecture about how bad tobacco is?
I honestly think many of you are so blinded by your hatred for tobacco that sometimes it impedes your ability to converse or think normally. I'll bet money that most all of you are really good people who just care but the extreme hatred you hold appears to turn you into something you really are not. I believe this is most people's own self-defense mechanism fighting the addiction. We all have our own ways in dealing with addiction.
In my opinion when one has overcome/accepted an addition (albeit never fully), this immense animosity at the mere mention of tobacco in a way other than with equal resentment will finally subside. Maybe for some it never will.
While I respect and agree with the quit methods of this site, I do not agree with the constant immature language and character assassinations in the forum. Yet the people who do these things are considered "Quit Gods". I agree that every addict needs a kick in the ass....but come on. It seems I am in the vast minority with my views about this and will humbly concede and let you all have at it. Â
Thank you all for helping me with my quit and I wish you all the best with yours.
-Chris
It's funny. Every quit group has at least one stopper who uses the o'le pompous "I'm better than you" planned cave excuse to take his ball and go home. We are addicts and we know what you are trying to do. Hopefully you can see this before it is too late.
anyone know where this pussy went?
Maybe he really did buy into thst tobacco harm reduction shit he posted, or maybe he's finger banging and chin dipping like a fool, or maybe he's quit? (Doubt it)
Either way, I'M an asshole for jumping in his shit after seeing he was looking for justification for using again.
Diesel....you da man bro....and I love you.....fuck this guy
newbies....read this thread.........classic caver...........CLASSIC.......don't be this guy..........POWWWWWW
Put on some tall rubber boots first, because their is a TON of bullshit.
This cat was heading for a cave for a long time.
Truthfully I think he was bound for a cave before he really ever started. STC was never willing to take any criticism or advice. You have got to have stones to do this but also the ability to bend and not break.
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Damn that was an interesting read. I learned a couple things if I feel like caving post about it so someone gets on my ass.
Wonder why he had such a struggle a month in? Did he never believe in quitting and was looking for the easy way out?
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Damn that was an interesting read. I learned a couple things if I feel like caving post about it so someone gets on my ass.
Wonder why he had such a struggle a month in? Did he never believe in quitting and was looking for the easy way out?
He had two intros.
index.php?showtopic=7949st=30 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7949&st=30)
You can tell in the first one he didn't really want to quit. Or at least may have not been fully committed.
Read if you wish...
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Damn that was an interesting read. I learned a couple things if I feel like caving post about it so someone gets on my ass.Â
Wonder why he had such a struggle a month in? Did he never believe in quitting and was looking for the easy way out?
He had two intros.
index.php?showtopic=7949st=30 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7949&st=30)
You can tell in the first one he didn't really want to quit. Or at least may have not been fully committed.
Read if you wish...
Yeah I agree with you there. I hate chewing it felt like a chore and my mouth started to hurt and it wasn't worth it. Never getting that head buzz you got when you first started and thinking why the hell am I even doing this I don't enjoy the feeling and it isn't benefiting me at all.
Really glad I found this forum and decided to quit that moment. I appreciate everyone who has posted on my intro and pm'd me during this time of need I/others are in. Really appreciate you guys!