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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: auburn on January 12, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
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Well, I am exactly 34 hours into my first attempt to quit. Actually, let me rephrase...I am 34 hours into never dipping again.
I am Brian...from Iowa. I have been dipping Copenhagen Snuff and Skoal Wintergreen Finecut and Skoal Key for the past 19 years. I have always joked about quitting and how if I really wanted to, it would not be difficult. Well, to be honest, I have tried MANY times but never made it through 1 night. I would cave in and run to the gas station to buy another tin.
I was watching the biggest loser with my wife and kids the other day, and one of the contestants was a dipper. The doctor explained how bad it was and it got me thinking as well. I decided to quit cold turkey. 34 hours later, here i am.
I have DEFINITELY craved a dip. I actually miss doing it too. I didn't so much enjoy the flavor, but if not harmful, I would continue to dip. The joy of having something in my lip was nice for me. (I am hoping this feeling goes away after being away from it for longer periods of time).
I am not sure, but I would say I am in "the fog" currently. It feels like a mix between a headache and having water in your ears. Certain things seem to echo...it's hard to concentrate...and it's kind of a state of euphoria honestly. It's not a BAD feeling for me, except I will get the occasional sharp pain in my head. The actual feeling appears to be somewhat like being drunk..without being uncoordinated.
I am sure things will get tougher, but at the 34th hour of my quit, I am hanging in there. No real cravings yet today. I normally get a terrible craving at noon. Yesterday was very bad at this time.
From going to 1/2 - 1 can per day to nothing is very tough. Others told me I was crazy for not weening myself off. I call them crazy for thinking I couldn't do it :-)
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welcome aboard. we are all proof this can be done. quit minute by minute if you have to....you can do anything for a min.
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then head on over to April 2012 and post roll. keep your word. repeat.
holler if you need anything. there will be someone there to help.
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Great to have you here auburn. You sound like you are committed to this and have a pretty good understanding of what is ahead. Keep posting roll and reach out to your fellow quitters if you feel weak. Stay strong and congratulations on the best decision of your life.
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leave it to a bama fan to be the first to respond. Congrats on the title and thanks for the support :-)
WDE!
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Welcome to the fun, Auburn! If you need anything, just send me a PM.
Your life is worth fighting for!
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So 2 days in, I found that lunch time is the hardest for me. Right after eating lunch, I would toss a dip in and leave it there for the rest of the work day. Yesterday, 2 hours right after lunch was the hardest.
Today, I am not feeling it AS much as I did yesterday. Still foggy and craving, but not having the headaches and sharp pains.
After the 72 hours of being nicotine free is done, does it get easier? I have head that the first few days are the hardest while others have said what to follow is more difficult.
What will happen next?
Will I slowly get fewer cravings? Will I continue to want it for the next 100+ days?
Just curious what to expect next. I am a VERY strong willed person, so I look forward to kicking the addiction.
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So 2 days in, I found that lunch time is the hardest for me. Right after eating lunch, I would toss a dip in and leave it there for the rest of the work day. Yesterday, 2 hours right after lunch was the hardest.
Today, I am not feeling it AS much as I did yesterday. Still foggy and craving, but not having the headaches and sharp pains.
After the 72 hours of being nicotine free is done, does it get easier? I have head that the first few days are the hardest while others have said what to follow is more difficult.
What will happen next?
Will I slowly get fewer cravings? Will I continue to want it for the next 100+ days?
Just curious what to expect next. I am a VERY strong willed person, so I look forward to kicking the addiction.
After the first three days the battle takes a different turn. After the nic is out of your system, it becomes a "head game" fight with the craves.
Check out this link: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
You can do this!!!
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Would it be a bad idea to get a can of the smokey mountain or hooch HERBAL snuff? Would that be a step backwards for me? THere is no nicotine or tobacco, but wanted your thoughts on this. Would it bring too much need back?
What is everyone's thoughts on this?
I am very dedicated to beating this addiction. Especially after reading Tom Kern's story. Nothing like shedding tears at work. Next time I have to read from home. 250lb man crying like a baby!
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Would it be a bad idea to get a can of the smokey mountain or hooch HERBAL snuff? Would that be a step backwards for me? THere is no nicotine or tobacco, but wanted your thoughts on this. Would it bring too much need back?
What is everyone's thoughts on this?
I am very dedicated to beating this addiction. Especially after reading Tom Kern's story. Nothing like shedding tears at work. Next time I have to read from home. 250lb man crying like a baby!
You will probably hear both sides here. Some guys say the fake stuff is too much like the real stuff... Others day put what every you want in your mouth EXCEPT TOBACCO.
Personally, I have used the fake stuff some. I found Jake's Mint Chew to be the best (interestingly I never like flavored snuff, just Cope. Longcut). Jake's has a similar texture and feeling.
I have been quit for 87 days today. Along with sunflower seeds and beef jerky, Jake's mint helped me keep copenhagen out of my mouth and nicotine out of my veins. At first I was concerned it would be difficult to quit the fake stuff... but I'm almost out and the can I have now has lasted over a week. At first I was conforting just to have the can in my pocket, but now I don't carry it with me...
So, IMOH, I'm cool with it. It can help you get over some rough times and not cave.
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Would it be a bad idea to get a can of the smokey mountain or hooch HERBAL snuff? Would that be a step backwards for me? THere is no nicotine or tobacco, but wanted your thoughts on this. Would it bring too much need back?
What is everyone's thoughts on this?
I am very dedicated to beating this addiction. Especially after reading Tom Kern's story. Nothing like shedding tears at work. Next time I have to read from home. 250lb man crying like a baby!
You will probably hear both sides here. Some guys say the fake stuff is too much like the real stuff... Others day put what every you want in your mouth EXCEPT TOBACCO.
Personally, I have used the fake stuff some. I found Jake's Mint Chew to be the best (interestingly I never like flavored snuff, just Cope. Longcut). Jake's has a similar texture and feeling.
I have been quit for 87 days today. Along with sunflower seeds and beef jerky, Jake's mint helped me keep copenhagen out of my mouth and nicotine out of my veins. At first I was concerned it would be difficult to quit the fake stuff... but I'm almost out and the can I have now has lasted over a week. At first I was conforting just to have the can in my pocket, but now I don't carry it with me...
So, IMOH, I'm cool with it. It can help you get over some rough times and not cave.
For what this is worth, I used the fake stuff for the first 60-ish days, can't really remember. And I struggled mightily with cravings after I stopped using it. If I could do it again I would not have picked it up. But it did help ease the tension the first few days.
IMHO, if you have made the decision that you are done with dip, DONE, no more, I don't see a reason to use it.
By the way, Glad to see you here!
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the place I went didn't have it, so I can back to nothing. I did buy one of those cans of beef jerky and tossed some in my lip. I like the taste so much I can't keep it between my lip though. Can is about gone haha.
No more substitutions. I obviously don't need them. Made it 2 days without them.
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Yup, you absolutely can do it without a substitute.
At the end of tomorrow, or maybe even the start of Saturday you will really start to notice a difference in how you feel. You will be starting the mind games though.
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When you mention the mind games, can you give me a sense of what you mean? Is it completely different than any feeling I am currently feeling? Is it like your mind trying to trick you?
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When you mention the mind games, can you give me a sense of what you mean? Is it completely different than any feeling I am currently feeling? Is it like your mind trying to trick you?
Right now you are so deep in the physical withdrawal that your brains main focus is just getting its fix. That is the foggy feeling you have.
The way it worked for me and many others is that after this physical withdrawal from nicotine you will start to try rationalizing why you should start dipping again. In my case I was trying to convince myself that I couldn't possibly go to a movie without a dip, I couldn't possibly work on my car, fix something around the house, etc. without a dip.... but really I could do all those things.
Your brain will still be wired to complete the ritualistic parts of the addiction. And for some crazy reason the cravings during the mind games can often be worse for people than even those first 3 days.
For me the key was understanding what was coming. Luckily there were people here that knew what was going to be happening and they helped me through. Many of us had different experiences during this phase but it all comes down to determination and making one simple decision every day... Don't put it in your lip.
For the record. It gets a hell of a lot better than you can even imagine at this point. I don't even recall when my last craving was and I am not even to 1 year quit yet. But that is why I stick around here every day, to remind myself of what that experience was like. So thank you for helping me stay quit!
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Luckily there were people here that knew what was going to be happening and they helped me through.
That's why I am asking you the questions.
I have tried rationalizing things a bit today, but I am so adamant about not doing it that the feelings quickly passed. My wife and kids are being very supportive, which is nice. I haven't been exactly nice the last 2 days either. I am more irritable due to not dipping. I think I am more pissed at myself for wanting to dip when I know I shouldn't and won't. Having the cravings are humbling and piss me off.
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Luckily there were people here that knew what was going to be happening and they helped me through.
That's why I am asking you the questions.
I have tried rationalizing things a bit today, but I am so adamant about not doing it that the feelings quickly passed. My wife and kids are being very supportive, which is nice. I haven't been exactly nice the last 2 days either. I am more irritable due to not dipping. I think I am more pissed at myself for wanting to dip when I know I shouldn't and won't. Having the cravings are humbling and piss me off.
My advice, don't dwell on it when you are trying to rationalize. Getting upset is all part of this process, but getting upset at yourself for something you really are not in control of will only make it worse.
There is only one thing you have complete control of... whether or not you stay quit. Your brain is making you irrational and have dumb thoughts like plugging your lip. Make it your goal to focus on saying no, instead of focusing on those rationalizations.
It is almost a helpless feeling when you have the anxiety attacks about whether you can live your life without dip. I still remember those feelings well. Anxiety, fear, and stress do NOT have to get the better of you because all the strength you need is to say "no".
This site helps a lot. Stick around, read, chat, or whatever you need. Speaking of chat, did you find the live chat yet?
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I haven't found the live chat. I will dig around and see what I can find though.
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I haven't found the live chat. I will dig around and see what I can find though.
Right hand side up top. Look for the group of 5 colored links. Far right in black.
You will have to create another user name and password for it, make at least the user name the same as on here. It is an invaluable link for a lot of the newer folks!
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If this were a site about anything other than quitting, as a Georgia Bulldawg alum and supporter I'd be laughing at your ass. But since I'm also an addict and I'm here to support others, including Tiger fans, you can PM me, call me on my cell phone, or text me and I'm there whenever. Fortunately, however, you're not a Gator fan.
I'm 25 days in. First, your attitude will go a long way in determining how your quit goes. Keep up a good attitude. Laugh at the nicotine bitch as much as possible. Keep a good attitude and you'll be miles ahead of the game.
Second, you, like me, will have lots of the same symptoms, reactions, and other issues that many on this site have had. Some people have some symptoms and not others. I had mad insomnia and sleeplessness issues the first 14 to 17 days. And I'm talking about 4 or 5 hours of sleep that wasn't even that good. Night after night. THAT sucked. I had a dull headache about the first 10 days. That mildly sucked but it was better when I drank lots of water and if it was distracting enough to affect my work I took ibuprofen. But I didn't have awful craves, dreams about huge fat fox turds in my lip, or some of the other shit people on here have to deal with. You just gotta deal with whatever you get out of the bitch's bag of tricks. Again, try to keep a positive attitude. If it gets bad reach out to some quit brothers. Have a plan on how you are going to stay quit and how you are going to PROTECT your quit.
Third, you gotta be careful about your attitude with others. I know it is tough. My wife has had at least two come-to-Jesus meetings with me about my shortness with her or the kids in the last three weeks. I'm not depressed. But she made a point about one of her friends that is really depressed. One of the characteristics of depression is making everything in life revolve around you. Similarly, recovering addicts exhibit the same sorts of behavior. Just remember that you're quitting your addiction to nicotine. Your wife and family are not. Don't punish them for the shit you are going through. That is tough, but try to keep it in mind. And just as an aside, keeping that in mind means that you are focusing outward and not inward, which will ultimately help your quit.
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If this were a site about anything other than quitting, as a Georgia Bulldawg alum and supporter I'd be laughing at your ass. But since I'm also an addict and I'm here to support others, including Tiger fans, you can PM me, call me on my cell phone, or text me and I'm there whenever. Fortunately, however, you're not a Gator fan.
I'm 25 days in. First, your attitude will go a long way in determining how your quit goes. Keep up a good attitude. Laugh at the nicotine bitch as much as possible. Keep a good attitude and you'll be miles ahead of the game.
Second, you, like me, will have lots of the same symptoms, reactions, and other issues that many on this site have had. Some people have some symptoms and not others. I had mad insomnia and sleeplessness issues the first 14 to 17 days. And I'm talking about 4 or 5 hours of sleep that wasn't even that good. Night after night. THAT sucked. I had a dull headache about the first 10 days. That mildly sucked but it was better when I drank lots of water and if it was distracting enough to affect my work I took ibuprofen. But I didn't have awful craves, dreams about huge fat fox turds in my lip, or some of the other shit people on here have to deal with. You just gotta deal with whatever you get out of the bitch's bag of tricks. Again, try to keep a positive attitude. If it gets bad reach out to some quit brothers. Have a plan on how you are going to stay quit and how you are going to PROTECT your quit.
Third, you gotta be careful about your attitude with others. I know it is tough. My wife has had at least two come-to-Jesus meetings with me about my shortness with her or the kids in the last three weeks. I'm not depressed. But she made a point about one of her friends that is really depressed. One of the characteristics of depression is making everything in life revolve around you. Similarly, recovering addicts exhibit the same sorts of behavior. Just remember that you're quitting your addiction to nicotine. Your wife and family are not. Don't punish them for the shit you are going through. That is tough, but try to keep it in mind. And just as an aside, keeping that in mind means that you are focusing outward and not inward, which will ultimately help your quit.
Brilliant!!
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Ok so yes ive tried in the past and caved and tried and caved. But I dont want my kids growing up watching me dip and I would like to have money to go on vacation with etc. This quitting shit sucks and I feel like im taking it out on everyone around me. Its easy to not dip at work. How ironic that I work in a hospital. Its when im home and the wife is at work, I mean Im here alone at night and its been real tough not to cave. Im trying to keep busy by going back to the gym etc. Its also tough when im driving and after I eat. Sleep hasent been an issue but stress has been. I feel like im starting to over eat and thats not good but hey i guess its better than dipping right?? I just want this nightmare to be over so any positive input would be great. Thank you guys i know yall been in my shoes so give it to me straight. Im done with this nasty habit, finished.
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61 hours without chew. Feeling great too! As dumb as it may sounds, I view the 72 hours as the FIRST step on my ladder to success. In 11 hours, I will have my first main success of quitting. Granted, each minute is a minor success, but I am really looking forward to 11 hours from now!
No cravings yet today to speak up. Maybe a few minor thoughts, but not really a full on craving. While driving to work today I didn't reach for my can. I also slept like a BABY last night. For some reason is was unexpectedly really calm and nice last night.
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Wow....who would have thought i would be here 24 days later with no dip! I also hit 100 posts and figured I would give an update as my 101st post. Maybe this can be some motivation for the newbies.
33 years old....19 of those dipping. I quit cold turkey. I was going to get herbal chew but shied away and decided against it. I figured I was going to do it pure without any help. The first 3 days were hell. I was so foggy I could barely work. At day 4, the fog pretty much lifted and I have been coasting every since. By coasting, I don't mean taking it for granted. I focus on my quit at all hours of the day. I have just been lucky enough to not have any real cravings. There's no looking back for me. Those people that say "It gets better". They are right. It does get better. Each day is a small victory against the nic bitch. With each won battle, never forget about the never ending war.
I was the epitome of cool, at least I thought so. I was the high school and college jock, the guy everyone looked up to. The fighter that would take no crap from anyone(fought professionally for a couple years). If I set my mind to something I could always win out. I would never quit until I had won or accomplished my goal. 24 days ago, my goal was to QUIT. Something I knew nothing about. Well, here I am.....and here a THANK YOU to all of those I have relied on thus far. I have raged a few times, brought on some laughs I hope, but most of all...made some friends while staying QUIT.
I actually look forward to cruising 1 day at a time towards the HOF. I know that when the day comes, there will be a short pause to beat the pork sword in celebration
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Well Fucking Done, Sir!!! You're on your way. 24 is a great start, but as you know, that is all it is...a start. We get to live with this fight forever. But that's the good news...we GET to LIVE with this fight.
Posting roll is now part of your daily habit. The craves and urges will now sneak up on you...dip dreams, friends that don't know you're quit, etc. Keep your guard up.
Never take this freedom for granted. You earn it one day at a time. Congrats, bro!!!
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Day 77 and still chugging away with my April brothers and all others I have encountered..or entered!