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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Brandonlear on November 23, 2015, 12:39:00 AM
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So as I'm sitting here watching Law and Order, it hits me for the second week in a row, I AM going to quit. This will be the third time I've tried although the past two times haven't been much of an effort. I had my first dip when I Camel Snus pouch when I was 13, first long cut pinch at 16, and a month before my 18th birthday, I started my habit. I've now been on it for two and a half years and its time to kick it. I struggled with anxiety severely in the past and I believe that's why I turned to tobacco/nicotine. Anyways, my name is Brandon and I'm from Southeastern Ohio. I look forward to speaking with many of you and making some friendships as well. Tomorrow will be day one, Hooch Herbal Snuff will be my daily until my Grinds gets here. I also plan on doing a daily VLOG on YouTube for at least the first 30 days. My channel name is Lear216, feel free to subscribe and have a laugh or two. The newly bough can of Cope Straight Cancer Blend is going in the trash. I'm finally going to kick it!
I AM STRONG!
I AM DETERMINED!
I AM QUIT!! 'Remshot'
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Congratulations! A couple thoughts.
You, like me, are an addict. Nicotine is not a habit. That is why such a simple thing as not stuffing your face with tobacco is so hard to do.
Anxiety can be part of the symptoms you face when you quit... be aware of that. It is normal. See a doctor and get help if needed.
Join the February 2016 quit group and post roll there. Roll is your daily promise to use no nicotine for 24 hours. Post roll every day.
Exchange digits with those quitters, make sure eachother post roll and support eachother on craves.
Use the tools on KTC, read everything, use the live chat, and get through today without nicotine.
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Welcome Brandon! You can do this and you seem ready. The first thing to do is to flush that poison that you threw in the trash. Your mind is going to play tricks on you as begin your quit journey and the nic bitch has had many a young quitter sort through the trash to retrieve a can for "just one more". That's not you! She still whispers to me form time to time, but I promise you and all my KTC family that I am quit for the day. Get on roll and make your promise Brandon.
Like Nomore recommended - read as much as you can on the site
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Brandon awesome decision to quit. I think many people, myself included, wish they had found this site and decided to stop this addiction at such a young age. You sir are doing yourself a huge favor and will never look back and regret quitting this habit so early in life. I see you found your quit group and have posted up.
Remember posting roll daily is a requirement. It is your reminder to yourself of the commitment you have made. It is a pledge to this in quit with you that you are quit with them and have their back just as their roll says they have yours.
Odd as it may sound, get digits of those quitting with you (seemed weird to me at first but my month got a groupme rolling and it's helped out as well as provides some laughs).
Battle through this one day at a time (ODAAT) and forever isn't such a daunting task.
It is going to suck, that part I won't deny. Have a plan. Use seeds, fake dip, paper towel, grass clippings.... Whatever you need to get through a crave (yes those last two have been put in a lip to pass a crave by some).
Lastly drink a lot of water, flush that poison from your system.
I quit with you and welcome!
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Good choice Brandon,
I am also in your February quit group. I am on day 22, and feel better than I have in years. The first week is really bad. stick with it, it does get better. I am by no means through the woods yet, but I can definitely see the light at the end of the tunnel. For the first week my anxiety was through the roof. This is normal. Lean on this community, and make sure you are open with your friends and family about your struggle. You will probably be on edge, and turn into a bit of an ass for the first week It helps a lot if people know why, and can help you through it. For years I would try to quit by myself because I was hiding my addiction from my wife. This time it feels completely different. I have my wife and this community in my corner. I don't have to do it alone. Post role every day. It is amazing how making that commitment works to keep us accountable.
You are going to kill it!
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I appreciate the warm welcome fellas! Just woke up here in Ohio, so everyone knows what they do first thing in the morning- pack a big ole chaw. Only this time I'm going to be packing some Hooch herbal snuff. I really hope I can get used to the texture as the last time i tried it I nearly threw up.
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I struggled with anxiety severely in the past and I believe that's why I turned to tobacco/nicotine.
Anxiety is not why you started tobacco. You started tobacco like most of us: you were a little middle school kid who got introduced to a legal drug (probably by some other little kid) that is as addictive as heroin and then you became an addict. All of us have anxiety, some have it worse than others. But nicotine is not the solution for long term handling of anxiety. It only makes it worse, because every time your nicotine levels drop you get anxious and crave the drug.
It will take 6-8 weeks for your brain chemistry to get to normal levels of neurotransmitters, and you may have lots of anxiety during this time. You need to find another way to cope with anxiety. The world is full of ex-smokers and ex-dippers who have figured out how to handle anxiety without turning to an evil addictive drug like nicotine. You can too.
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Might want to keep some seeds handy as well, I couldn't stomach the herbal chew but the seeds really pull me through those triggering times.
I made myself a grid on excel with the hours broken down by every 15 minutes, helped me see I was making progress, stay quit man.
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Some really great advice already Brandon so I'll say welcome, and reiterate that you read everything you possibly can on here. It will solidify why you are here and why you don't want to ever go back to that slavery. I'm quit with you. Kick nicotine's ass today.
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Welcome to freedom brandon. You will never regret quitting. Reach out if you need anything.
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Thought you was ready my friend. Get your ass in here and post Roll, that's what real quitters do first thing in the morning! Damn a fat lip that shits for candy asses. We won't you here learn to post roll, early! Odaat! We will worry about this 24hours,hour by hour , minute by minute, second by second, whatever it takes to keep the poison out of our mouths! I quit with you today!
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Thought you was ready my friend. Get your ass in here and post Roll, that's what real quitters do first thing in the morning! Damn a fat lip that shits for candy asses. We won't you here learn to post roll, early! Odaat! We will worry about this 24hours,hour by hour , minute by minute, second by second, whatever it takes to keep the poison out of our mouths! I quit with you today!
He posted up early this morning Pab: single/?p=9440176t=11424456 (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9440176&t=11424456)
Good looking out though!
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Thought you was ready my friend. Get your ass in here and post Roll, that's what real quitters do first thing in the morning! Damn a fat lip that shits for candy asses. We won't you here learn to post roll, early! Odaat! We will worry about this 24hours,hour by hour , minute by minute, second by second, whatever it takes to keep the poison out of our mouths! I quit with you today!
He posted up early this morning Pab: single/?p=9440176t=11424456 (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9440176&t=11424456)
Good looking out though!
Sorry my friend! Glad to have you! Welcome aboard the quit train!
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I just started to quit yesterday. My philosophy is to not be a bitch to the can. Just think, every time you give in and go pack a lip an inanimate object has just made you to something you didn't want to. This way of thinking doesn't work for everyone but it has kept me in check the last 36 hours.
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I quit with you today Brother! Keep the herbal close and along with this website. Read as much as you can, knowledge is power when it comes quitting the nic bitch!
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I just started to quit yesterday. My philosophy is to not be a bitch to the can. Just think, every time you give in and go pack a lip an inanimate object has just made you to something you didn't want to. This way of thinking doesn't work for everyone but it has kept me in check the last 36 hours.
Post roll in March '16 and let's get to this.
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38 hours nicotine/tobacco free and actually feeling really good! Slight headache, slight lightheadedness, not nearly as bad as I expected. Herbal snuff and sunflower seeds have been a lifesaver. I don't think i really need the nicotine, I KNOW i need something in my lip, thats where seeds or herbal comes in. This has been really easy thus far. Will tomorrow be harder, easier.. Does it get harder after the first 3 days or only easier? Other than the headache and being pissy I feel good. I'm actually doing a vlog for the first 30 days quit or so. You can check it out on youtube @lear216 It is my first time doing a blog/vlog of any kind so I'm excited.
One last question. Is posting roll a daily thing?
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38 hours nicotine/tobacco free and actually feeling really good! Slight headache, slight lightheadedness, not nearly as bad as I expected. Herbal snuff and sunflower seeds have been a lifesaver. I don't think i really need the nicotine, I KNOW i need something in my lip, thats where seeds or herbal comes in. This has been really easy thus far. Will tomorrow be harder, easier.. Does it get harder after the first 3 days or only easier? Other than the headache and being pissy I feel good. I'm actually doing a vlog for the first 30 days quit or so. You can check it out on youtube @lear216 It is my first time doing a blog/vlog of any kind so I'm excited.
One last question. Is posting roll a daily thing?
Yes Brandon, we post roll every day as early as we can. This works best if you make connections with the other members of your group and get their digits. After you have posted roll come back later in the day and look to see if anyone is missing. Shoot them a text message if they are not on the list. People here will do the same for you if they have digits.
Brotherhood + Accountability = Success
I know personally I had some pretty rough days after day 3. Always stay on guard for that sudden crave.
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And I saw that some vets gave you a hard time on the March thread for posting late before you knew that this was an "every day thing". Don't worry about that - just do whatever you need to do to stay off nicotine and come back to post here every morning.
You can do this Brandon! If I can you can, and I was mighty messed up by the nicotine bitch before I got here. :P
I quit with you today.
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Hey Brandon, where have you been? I hope you haven't gone crawling back to that damn can again. I know what its like. It whispers in your ear that you can just have one dip, get that feeling again, then put it back down. Every time i would listen to that voice I would be back n the shit until the next time I tried another half assed quit. I would never have been able to get this far if it I didn't stay accountable with this community. We care about your quit!
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So a few months ago, (around Thanksgiving) I decided to quit cold turkey. It lasted 4 days until I was at Thanksgiving dinner and someone offered me a pouch. I gave in, and bought a can on my way home that same evening. I've been dipping for almost three years now, so I'm no where near where some of you guys were when you quit. I found what feels like a swollen gland deep down in the left side of my mouth about the size of a pea, maybe smaller. It doesn't hurt, it moves around fairly easily too. That freaked me out to the point of quitting again. I also have a sore on the inside of my bottom jaw on the right side sorta where my tongue sits, that freaked me out too. I don't know if I have anything to worry about or not. I suffer from anxiety and I'm also a hypochondriac. The first time I had an anxiety attack, I diagnosed myself with diabetes, then the next day it happened again, and i thought I was having a heart attack, so I actually went to the hospital and they said it was anxiety. Now, I've diagnosed myself with oral cancer.. I don't know if only two and a half years puts me at a significant risk or not. Am I crazy, overreacting, what?! But anyways, here I am again finally ready to quit, I ditched my can out the window of my truck last night because even though I knew I wanted to quit, if i only threw it away, I'd dig through the trash and get it back out. Well I went all morning with no dip, 3 o clock came and when I got off work, I bought a can and gave in. So far today I've had two dips which is great compared to my normal 7/8's of a can. Tomorrow I'm going to go all day without one and kick the habit from there on out. I just have a couple of questions, one.. should I get these spots in my mouth checked out or am I overreacting? I have a dentist appointment Friday morning anyways, but its not for a cleaning, only an examination, x ray, etc. I hate to think that my parents spent $5000 on braces only for me to f**k up my teeth. I'm about to ditch this can out my bedroom window as far as I can get it to go.. I want to be done. Why did I ever start? Why is it so easy to start, yet so hard to quit? What do you guys do to occupy your time so you don't think about it? I have Grinds pouches that really help, but nothing has the sweet taste or same texture as Copenhagen Straight. Now we have Copenhagen Mint coming out next week and its going to be so hard not to pick up a can of that. I need to get some mountain dew to keep at home so I can avoid gas stations. Im sorry guys, I know this post is all over the place as far as thoughts go but I'm trying to get everything out. Anybody like lifted trucks? Anyone drive a diesel? Anybody want to email or text and talk about trucks and quitting in general. It's almost like I need a support group to text me each morning to say they're proud and make sure I stay on track, but I know thats a lot to ask. Look, I just want to be done, but its so hard. Tomorrows the day, anybody have an words of wisdom or advice so I don't give in again? I told a kid at work today that i quit and he said "Hell yeah, bro. That's what I'm talking about." Then I went back to to work later and told him I gave in and he almost seemed disappointed. I just need to shake this habit, this addiction, before it kills me.
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I wish I would have quit with only 3 years in. I kept using for 22 long wasted years. I went thru several "tomorrow is a good day to quit" dates as well. The best advice I can give you is to just quit now. Don't wait until tomorrow. You are addicted to nicotine and you will find a reason to keep using tomorrow.
You have an addiction, not a habit.
Yes, you should see a dentist/doctor. See what is going on. I guarantee, you will go to the dentist, and as soon as you leave, throw a dip in your mouth if your "visit" is good. I did it a million times.....it was just another reason to keep using. "I'm good. I'll quit eventually" "He didn't say anything so I'm fine". Damn addiction.
Nicotine never solved a damn thing. Nothing positive can come from it.
This place works if you let it. You just have to quit. No stoppages here.
Get some seeds, gum, fireballs, ice cubes, straws, fake....whatever works. Just keep that shit out of your mouth.
We get it. We have all been where you are but you need to get serious and quit.
Oh, just to help you sleep tonight, remember, chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws.
Lady G day 802.
Bring it dude.
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I wish I would have quit with only 3 years in. I kept using for 22 long wasted years. I went thru several "tomorrow is a good day to quit" dates as well. The best advice I can give you is to just quit now. Don't wait until tomorrow. You are addicted to nicotine and you will find a reason to keep using tomorrow.
You have an addiction, not a habit.
Yes, you should see a dentist/doctor. See what is going on. I guarantee, you will go to the dentist, and as soon as you leave, throw a dip in your mouth if your "visit" is good. I did it a million times.....it was just another reason to keep using. "I'm good. I'll quit eventually" "He didn't say anything so I'm fine". Damn addiction.
Nicotine never solved a damn thing. Nothing positive can come from it.
This place works if you let it. You just have to quit. No stoppages here.
Get some seeds, gum, fireballs, ice cubes, straws, fake....whatever works. Just keep that shit out of your mouth.
We get it. We have all been where you are but you need to get serious and quit.
Oh, just to help you sleep tonight, remember, chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws.
Lady G day 802.
Bring it dude.
Joined in Nov 2015? Where the hell have you been? Stuffing your jaw with that shit and "thinking about quitting". You dipping now? Paaaaaaleeeease!!
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I wish I would have quit with only 3 years in. I kept using for 22 long wasted years. I went thru several "tomorrow is a good day to quit" dates as well. The best advice I can give you is to just quit now. Don't wait until tomorrow. You are addicted to nicotine and you will find a reason to keep using tomorrow.
You have an addiction, not a habit.
Yes, you should see a dentist/doctor. See what is going on. I guarantee, you will go to the dentist, and as soon as you leave, throw a dip in your mouth if your "visit" is good. I did it a million times.....it was just another reason to keep using. "I'm good. I'll quit eventually" "He didn't say anything so I'm fine". Damn addiction.
Nicotine never solved a damn thing. Nothing positive can come from it.
This place works if you let it. You just have to quit. No stoppages here.
Get some seeds, gum, fireballs, ice cubes, straws, fake....whatever works. Just keep that shit out of your mouth.
We get it. We have all been where you are but you need to get serious and quit.
Oh, just to help you sleep tonight, remember, chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws.
Lady G day 802.
Bring it dude.
Joined in Nov 2015? Where the hell have you been? Stuffing your jaw with that shit and "thinking about quitting". You dipping now? Paaaaaaleeeease!!
November of 15 would've been just over a year of dipping.. Why I didn't quit then, I don't know.. I just flushed my can down the toilet and it felt pretty good. I'm here now, all out balls to the wall ready to quit. You have my word! I'm really hoping everything at the dentist checks out. Some reassurance would be nice.. As far as posting roll goes, do I wait until the start of a new day, the day I quit, etc? Do I post everyday?
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I wish I would have quit with only 3 years in. I kept using for 22 long wasted years. I went thru several "tomorrow is a good day to quit" dates as well. The best advice I can give you is to just quit now. Don't wait until tomorrow. You are addicted to nicotine and you will find a reason to keep using tomorrow.
You have an addiction, not a habit.
Yes, you should see a dentist/doctor. See what is going on. I guarantee, you will go to the dentist, and as soon as you leave, throw a dip in your mouth if your "visit" is good. I did it a million times.....it was just another reason to keep using. "I'm good. I'll quit eventually" "He didn't say anything so I'm fine". Damn addiction.
Nicotine never solved a damn thing. Nothing positive can come from it.
This place works if you let it. You just have to quit. No stoppages here.
Get some seeds, gum, fireballs, ice cubes, straws, fake....whatever works. Just keep that shit out of your mouth.
We get it. We have all been where you are but you need to get serious and quit.
Oh, just to help you sleep tonight, remember, chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws.
Lady G day 802.
Bring it dude.
Joined in Nov 2015? Where the hell have you been? Stuffing your jaw with that shit and "thinking about quitting". You dipping now? Paaaaaaleeeease!!
November of 15 would've been just over a year of dipping.. Why I didn't quit then, I don't know.. I just flushed my can down the toilet and it felt pretty good. I'm here now, all out balls to the wall ready to quit. You have my word! I'm really hoping everything at the dentist checks out. Some reassurance would be nice.. As far as posting roll goes, do I wait until the start of a new day, the day I quit, etc? Do I post everyday?
Yes. You post now. You post every day because that is the only way this works. Then, you only worry about today. Need help posting roll?
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I wish I would have quit with only 3 years in. I kept using for 22 long wasted years. I went thru several "tomorrow is a good day to quit" dates as well. The best advice I can give you is to just quit now. Don't wait until tomorrow. You are addicted to nicotine and you will find a reason to keep using tomorrow.
You have an addiction, not a habit.
Yes, you should see a dentist/doctor. See what is going on. I guarantee, you will go to the dentist, and as soon as you leave, throw a dip in your mouth if your "visit" is good. I did it a million times.....it was just another reason to keep using. "I'm good. I'll quit eventually" "He didn't say anything so I'm fine". Damn addiction.
Nicotine never solved a damn thing. Nothing positive can come from it.
This place works if you let it. You just have to quit. No stoppages here.
Get some seeds, gum, fireballs, ice cubes, straws, fake....whatever works. Just keep that shit out of your mouth.
We get it. We have all been where you are but you need to get serious and quit.
Oh, just to help you sleep tonight, remember, chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws.
Lady G day 802.
Bring it dude.
Joined in Nov 2015? Where the hell have you been? Stuffing your jaw with that shit and "thinking about quitting". You dipping now? Paaaaaaleeeease!!
November of 15 would've been just over a year of dipping.. Why I didn't quit then, I don't know.. I just flushed my can down the toilet and it felt pretty good. I'm here now, all out balls to the wall ready to quit. You have my word! I'm really hoping everything at the dentist checks out. Some reassurance would be nice.. As far as posting roll goes, do I wait until the start of a new day, the day I quit, etc? Do I post everyday?
Yes. You post now. You post every day because that is the only way this works. Then, you only worry about today. Need help posting roll?
Yeah, I can't completely remember how to do it. Damn nicotine took over my thoughts and put me in a fog.
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I wish I would have quit with only 3 years in. I kept using for 22 long wasted years. I went thru several "tomorrow is a good day to quit" dates as well. The best advice I can give you is to just quit now. Don't wait until tomorrow. You are addicted to nicotine and you will find a reason to keep using tomorrow.
You have an addiction, not a habit.
Yes, you should see a dentist/doctor. See what is going on. I guarantee, you will go to the dentist, and as soon as you leave, throw a dip in your mouth if your "visit" is good. I did it a million times.....it was just another reason to keep using. "I'm good. I'll quit eventually" "He didn't say anything so I'm fine". Damn addiction.
Nicotine never solved a damn thing. Nothing positive can come from it.
This place works if you let it. You just have to quit. No stoppages here.
Get some seeds, gum, fireballs, ice cubes, straws, fake....whatever works. Just keep that shit out of your mouth.
We get it. We have all been where you are but you need to get serious and quit.
Oh, just to help you sleep tonight, remember, chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws.
Lady G day 802.
Bring it dude.
Joined in Nov 2015? Where the hell have you been? Stuffing your jaw with that shit and "thinking about quitting". You dipping now? Paaaaaaleeeease!!
November of 15 would've been just over a year of dipping.. Why I didn't quit then, I don't know.. I just flushed my can down the toilet and it felt pretty good. I'm here now, all out balls to the wall ready to quit. You have my word! I'm really hoping everything at the dentist checks out. Some reassurance would be nice.. As far as posting roll goes, do I wait until the start of a new day, the day I quit, etc? Do I post everyday?
Yes. You post now. You post every day because that is the only way this works. Then, you only worry about today. Need help posting roll?
Yeah, I can't completely remember how to do it. Damn nicotine took over my thoughts and put me in a fog.
Clarify "remember"
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I wish I would have quit with only 3 years in. I kept using for 22 long wasted years. I went thru several "tomorrow is a good day to quit" dates as well. The best advice I can give you is to just quit now. Don't wait until tomorrow. You are addicted to nicotine and you will find a reason to keep using tomorrow.
You have an addiction, not a habit.
Yes, you should see a dentist/doctor. See what is going on. I guarantee, you will go to the dentist, and as soon as you leave, throw a dip in your mouth if your "visit" is good. I did it a million times.....it was just another reason to keep using. "I'm good. I'll quit eventually" "He didn't say anything so I'm fine". Damn addiction.
Nicotine never solved a damn thing. Nothing positive can come from it.
This place works if you let it. You just have to quit. No stoppages here.
Get some seeds, gum, fireballs, ice cubes, straws, fake....whatever works. Just keep that shit out of your mouth.
We get it. We have all been where you are but you need to get serious and quit.
Oh, just to help you sleep tonight, remember, chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws.
Lady G day 802.
Bring it dude.
Joined in Nov 2015? Where the hell have you been? Stuffing your jaw with that shit and "thinking about quitting". You dipping now? Paaaaaaleeeease!!
November of 15 would've been just over a year of dipping.. Why I didn't quit then, I don't know.. I just flushed my can down the toilet and it felt pretty good. I'm here now, all out balls to the wall ready to quit. You have my word! I'm really hoping everything at the dentist checks out. Some reassurance would be nice.. As far as posting roll goes, do I wait until the start of a new day, the day I quit, etc? Do I post everyday?
Yes. You post now. You post every day because that is the only way this works. Then, you only worry about today. Need help posting roll?
Yeah, I can't completely remember how to do it. Damn nicotine took over my thoughts and put me in a fog.
Clarify "remember"
Hey everyone, Drewski here. I joined this site today and this is my first post. I'm 21 years young and have dipped for 4 years. I quit two days ago and I must say, I'm a little shocked at how it's been going thus far. I dipped about 5 times a day, primarily when I do specific things... Like driving, after a meal or work out, and before I go to bed while watching Netflix lol. I've tried to quit in the past by using fake chew, jerky, seeds, regular bubble gum... You name it I tried it, and didn't see any progress. The other day it really just dawned on me and I recently got an excellent job in law enforcement, and I plan on being a husband and a father one day. I don't want to waste my life away for a green can, I wanna spend it with my family and friends, living it up, all that b.s lol. I expected quitting to be absolutely horrendous (it sucks, don't get me wrong) but I have done well so far, and credit goes to y'all too because you're quitting At my side as well! It's a long ways to go but I'm happy and feel great. I'm worried a bit though because I have a small bump on my lip, and it's been there for about a week. Will get it checked out soon to be safe, can someone please tell me if they've experienced bumping, and if so how did you handle it? I'm here for y'all, and would be more than happy to exhange emails or possibly text if you need the support. Thanks again everyone, you're the best????
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Alright, so I'm about 17 hours nicotine free, tobacco free, dip free.. I'm dizzy as hell, can't hardly keep my eyes opened, I keep dropping shit. My eyes are having a hard time focusing on the computer screen. I've been through it before. Tomorrow I'll feel completely different, but still feel terrible in one way or another. I feel like quitting dip has kinda been like giving up part of my life. The hardest part will be being around my friends when they do it.
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Alright, so I'm about 17 hours nicotine free, tobacco free, dip free.. I'm dizzy as hell, can't hardly keep my eyes opened, I keep dropping shit. My eyes are having a hard time focusing on the computer screen. I've been through it before. Tomorrow I'll feel completely different, but still feel terrible in one way or another. I feel like quitting dip has kinda been like giving up part of my life. The hardest part will be being around my friends when they do it.
What's up, another young gun on the site! I'm 22, grats on also being ahead of the quit curve-- as long as you stick with it. If you've not done so already, go ahead and post roll in the June HOF group.
Also, and I say this with love, you've got it ass-backwards. By quitting tobacco, you're giving up death. You've forgotten how much time in your daily life you set aside for tobacco that you will reclaim, and that doesn't even touch all the other ways you will feel better and healthier. Stay the course man. You don't want to be looking back in two decades with a tumor in your throat wishing you'd stuck with the quit you're flirting with today.
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Bump
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It appears we have someone who caved, has admitted it, and is now trying again. Hence the two different intros. I will say welcome back, but there is a process to be followed. Sorry to be blunt but you have too much drama queen in ya for me to go any further. There will be others here to help.
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Yesterday I caved, and ended up having two dips. I know the exact reason why and how to prevent it next time. The reason? I couldn't keep my eyes opened and felt slightly dizzy. Next time, I'll just take a nap. Today was much better, I woke up and didn't feel that morning need, although I was starving until lunch time because a pinch is normally my breakfast. I did have another two dips today, once right after work and the other after dinner, but I dumped my can and printed out the contract to give up and hung them together in my room. It'll be a friendly reminder not to open a can again. Also I'm going to order a KTC wristband and t-shirt, so that way when I'm away from the computer, I can look at the wrist band and when I feel an urge, I can just snap it and move on. I had a sore on the inside of my bottom gum, under my tongue. It didn't seem to be healing as fast as other sores in my mouth typically do and it didn't hurt after the first day either. It freaked me out to the point to start my quit. This morning when I woke up, it was significantly better but still there. I've been swishing with warm salt water this evening with hopes that it's help and it seems like it has a bit. I think the reason for this one taking so long to heal is that its directly under my tongue, so I sit there and play with it all day to see how it's doing lol. The weekend is now here. Typically I don't dip as much on the weekends anyways because I know my parents aren't too fond of it, so this weekend I should be able to shake a lot of the weird feelings and stop completely just in time for the work week to start again. I just need to figure out something else to occupy my time because I feel like half of my dips were thrown in because I was bored. I guess I'll try gum and see how that works out, or maybe the beef jerky route.
Anyways, I only dipped for about 2 and a half years, so this shouldn't be too difficult now that I know what to expect. Also, I don't think I should endure too many long term side effects and I know quitting now also makes the oral cancer risk almost as minimal as if I'd never dipped in my life. Today though, I had this weird thought about buying a pack of cigarettes :blink: which I have never done before... ever. Why would I think something like this? Any advice heading into day 3, and making it the first full day? Also, what about this slow healing non painful sore? It's not completely painless, but the pain is easily bearable as with normal mouth sore I can't eat, talk, or anything.
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It appears we have someone who caved, has admitted it, and is now trying again. Hence the two different intros. I will say welcome back, but there is a process to be followed. Sorry to be blunt but you have too much drama queen in ya for me to go any further. There will be others here to help.
Yes, I did cave. I caved again yesterday, and today. I'm young, dumb, and senseless. A "drama queen" though? That's not me.
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Poof
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Damn.
Nicotine is such a horrible thing. It tricks you, particularly when you are young, into believing that you need it. Then the addiction takes hold. You don't need it, but quitting is hard. When you are young, it is so easy to fall into... I'll just have one after thanksgiving dinner... Then buy a new can... Then go out in your truck to a friends and play video games...dip at their house... And the whole cycle repeats.
It is so easy to get scared and go to the dentist in a flurry of panic only to get good news and say FUCK YEAH and buy just one can to celebrate. Ginet lines this scenario out perfectly.
It is easy to feel anxious and believe that nicotine helps/heals this. It doesn't. It can't. It won't. Nicotine creates anxiety. Try running out and going from store to store late at night looking for your brand. Or frantically hiding you cans/spitters from a new girlfriend. Try waking up with a big swollen gland in your neck.
I've seen a couple of young guys come on and post YouTube videos about their quit journey. I call it bravado. Both had a series of caves... But you know, I get it.
See, 1,175 days ago I quit. I joined Ktc and I went all in with the site. I exchanged phone numbers. I posted roll as soon as my eyes open. And by God I kept my word to my brothers. Now, for 9,000 days before that (that's 25 years, Brandon) I told myself daily that I was gonna quit today. Threw out thousands of unempty cans. Bought a new one the next day. But no more!
My parents spent thousands on braces for me. My dad died of a heart attack at 52 which I'm certain nicotine helped cause. My grandpa died of colon cancer which tobacco caused. I've had giant swollen glands in my neck. I've wasted 45,000 dollars. I've lied to myself and my family/friends about my addiction.
But... I will not lie to the KTC community. These guys/gals are like you and me. If you don't wanna quit, don't quit. It is hard. No question. It isn't as hard as taking chemo or losing a jaw. But it is hard. And if you aren't ready for the journey, stop fucking around and don't take the journey. Keep buying cans and spitting in your Dasani bottle. But don't waste your time on here until you really mean it. It is frustrating and pointless.
I just hope that you make the decision earlier than my dad. Or my grandpa. Or me.
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Anyways, I only dipped for about 2 and a half years, so this shouldn't be too difficult now that I know what to expect. Also, I don't think I should endure too many long term side effects and I know quitting now also makes the oral cancer risk almost as minimal as if I'd never dipped in my life. Today though, I had this weird thought about buying a pack of cigarettes
This is why you will cave again. This will be really, really, really difficult. It will be as difficult as fuck. Two and a half years? That's plenty, plenty of time for full-on full of denial addiction. That is exactly where you are my friend. The nicotine is speaking through you. It has control of your body like a bad 1970s B movie.
Long term side effects? Are you kidding me? Your next dip will be the dip that leads directly to lots of long term side effects, because unless you change your mindset, your next dip will lead to lots and lots of next dips.
The risk of oral cancer is huge. Why did you think about buying cigarettes? It's not weird, and it's not a mystery. You are an addict. You are a big time, huge nicotine addict. That addiction is getting a sense that you are flirting around with quitting nicotine. That nicotine addiction has one objective - survival at any cost.
Get serious about this shit. Because this shit is serious about you. You are addicted, and the addiction requires your respect.
Get active on this site. Post roll ever damn day. Get your head out of your ass.
I hope like fuck that I didn't just waste my time typing all of this out.
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Anyways, I only dipped for about 2 and a half years, so this shouldn't be too difficult now that I know what to expect.
Today though, I had this weird thought about buying a pack of cigarettes :blink: which I have never done before... ever. Why would I think something like this?
This may be more difficult than you think.
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Combined intro threads. You're only allowed one. Own your failure.
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Anyways, I only dipped for about 2 and a half years, so this shouldn't be too difficult now that I know what to expect.
Today though, I had this weird thought about buying a pack of cigarettes :blink: which I have never done before... ever. Why would I think something like this?
This may be more difficult than you think.
2 year will quickly turn into 4, 10, 16 and then you will think, have I really chewed for that long...
you shit all over your quit group, you don't want it yet. see you in 8 years.
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I cave one fucking day and suddenly I'm a disgrace to my group? Its the guys like you that make me not want to be on this site, that drive me to pack another chaw. I've had a lot of kind words, but I feel like there are more dickheads (yourself included) on this site than anything else.
worktowin and RDB, thank you guys.
Idaho Spuds, you're an ass, simple as that.
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The hardest part is just picking a random day to quit that doesn't have any meaning. I've decided to pick my half birthday on March 19th, one week from today. It'll give me time to prepare and it'll also mark 2 and a half years right on the day. I'll also be able to build a few friendships on the site hopefully and get a YouTube VLOG going for the journey. Now, just isn't the right time.. you can't jump into something and half ass it. I'm not going to half ass my quit and let people down. I'll wean myself off of it throughout this week as I have been doing, that way when I do cave, I don't break any promises. I'll make ya'll one promise! You'll see me post roll at midnight on March 19th. That day has a meaning and it'll also give me a reason to celebrate my 6 month mark which also occurs on my 21st birthday. I feel like it'll be the perfect combination.
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Don't post here again until you are actually ready to quit. Every person here did the same "pick a future quit day" countless times before coming here. If you wait, then you're vulnerable addict mind will justify reasons to say "fuck these guys, they don't know me" and bail for months just like you did last year.
We have a saying here - "there are no special butterflies". I want you to read the following statement and look inward: who do you think knows the best approach to this? The guys here who are quit and have seen thousands of people come to this site? Or you, the guy who is shoving his mouth full of cat shit because he couldn't keep his word?
And you are catching hell because there are other people here who are taking this seriously, going through the exact same shit you were (if not more) and didn't crack. Leniency on you would take away from what they are going through and accomplishing.
Seriously, don't post again until you actually want to quit. We are here to quit, not hear excuses for why you can't.
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The hardest part is just picking a random day to quit that doesn't have any meaning. I've decided to pick my half birthday on March 19th, one week from today. It'll give me time to prepare and it'll also mark 2 and a half years right on the day. I'll also be able to build a few friendships on the site hopefully and get a YouTube VLOG going for the journey. Now, just isn't the right time.. you can't jump into something and half ass it. I'm not going to half ass my quit and let people down. I'll wean myself off of it throughout this week as I have been doing, that way when I do cave, I don't break any promises. I'll make ya'll one promise! You'll see me post roll at midnight on March 19th. That day has a meaning and it'll also give me a reason to celebrate my 6 month mark which also occurs on my 21st birthday. I feel like it'll be the perfect combination.
Dude, you've been dipping for 2-1/2 years. There is NO FOCKING WAY that you have developed cancer in that short amount of time. I've been dipping for 38 FOCKING YEARS, FROM THE TIME I WAKE UP TO THE TIME I GO TO BED, EVERY FOCKING DAY!!
And I don't have cancer.
If you want to quit, then quit. That means quit now. Otherwise, you just focking play mind games with yourself for the next 35-1/2 years. If you want to stay around this site, then quit. Otherwise, go away until you're ready.
This site is for serious quitters. You say "The hardest part is just picking a random day...", no, the hardest part is just focking quitting. It's also the easiest part.
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The hardest part is just picking a random day to quit that doesn't have any meaning. I've decided to pick my half birthday on March 19th, one week from today. It'll give me time to prepare and it'll also mark 2 and a half years right on the day. I'll also be able to build a few friendships on the site hopefully and get a YouTube VLOG going for the journey. Now, just isn't the right time.. you can't jump into something and half ass it. I'm not going to half ass my quit and let people down. I'll wean myself off of it throughout this week as I have been doing, that way when I do cave, I don't break any promises. I'll make ya'll one promise! You'll see me post roll at midnight on March 19th. That day has a meaning and it'll also give me a reason to celebrate my 6 month mark which also occurs on my 21st birthday. I feel like it'll be the perfect combination.
Dude, you've been dipping for 2-1/2 years. There is NO FOCKING WAY that you have developed cancer in that short amount of time. I've been dipping for 38 FOCKING YEARS, FROM THE TIME I WAKE UP TO THE TIME I GO TO BED, EVERY FOCKING DAY!!
And I don't have cancer.
If you want to quit, then quit. That means quit now. Otherwise, you just focking play mind games with yourself for the next 35-1/2 years. If you want to stay around this site, then quit. Otherwise, go away until you're ready.
This site is for serious quitters. You say "The hardest part is just picking a random day...", no, the hardest part is just focking quitting. It's also the easiest part.
Hey son you're young but young people get cancer to! Get your shit together and grab your balls and post roll tomorrow, because this day or that day will turn into 10 years before you know it. Like it or not you're an addict just like me, just as bad, and I used 38 year's, if it was as easy as you seem to think you would have succeeded on your own! Idaho spuds is a badass quitter, might wanna listen to some of these vet's, trust me regardless of what you think you don't know it all. Quit kud while your young, if not you will be an old man!
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Really? You are going to wait another week to quit? :blink:
waiting*
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Really? You are going to wait another week to quit? :blink:
waiting*
If you are not Quit, then don't fucking post roll in the forums. You have posted 3 days and have failed. Do not post again until you actually have no intention of putting dip in your mouth.
Does this make you a Drama Queen? Nope. It makes you young, dumb, and a man who cannot keep his word. Figure that out before you post roll. I would do everything to heed RT's warning yesterday if I were in your shoes.
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The hardest part is just picking a random day to quit that doesn't have any meaning. I've decided to pick my half birthday on March 19th, one week from today. It'll give me time to prepare and it'll also mark 2 and a half years right on the day. I'll also be able to build a few friendships on the site hopefully and get a YouTube VLOG going for the journey. Now, just isn't the right time.. you can't jump into something and half ass it. I'm not going to half ass my quit and let people down. I'll wean myself off of it throughout this week as I have been doing, that way when I do cave, I don't break any promises. I'll make ya'll one promise! You'll see me post roll at midnight on March 19th. That day has a meaning and it'll also give me a reason to celebrate my 6 month mark which also occurs on my 21st birthday. I feel like it'll be the perfect combination.
What a fucking jack ass.
Your HALF birthday? What the fuck is a HALF birthday???
The best time to quit is today. The worst time to quit is tomorrow.
You're a fucking pussy ass bitch who is wasting everyone's time. Get busy quitting or get the fuck out of here.
Seriously, find your fucking sack and man the fuck up!!! HALF birthday...what a fucking joke.
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The hardest part is just picking a random day to quit that doesn't have any meaning. I've decided to pick my half birthday on March 19th, one week from today. It'll give me time to prepare and it'll also mark 2 and a half years right on the day. I'll also be able to build a few friendships on the site hopefully and get a YouTube VLOG going for the journey. Now, just isn't the right time.. you can't jump into something and half ass it. I'm not going to half ass my quit and let people down. I'll wean myself off of it throughout this week as I have been doing, that way when I do cave, I don't break any promises. I'll make ya'll one promise! You'll see me post roll at midnight on March 19th. That day has a meaning and it'll also give me a reason to celebrate my 6 month mark which also occurs on my 21st birthday. I feel like it'll be the perfect combination.
What a fucking jack ass.
Your HALF birthday? What the fuck is a HALF birthday???
The best time to quit is today. The worst time to quit is tomorrow.
You're a fucking pussy ass bitch who is wasting everyone's time. Get busy quitting or get the fuck out of here.
Seriously, find your fucking sack and man the fuck up!!! HALF birthday...what a fucking joke.
Just read your entire intro. You're a habitual liar.
So add that to being a pussy. Nice combo, Sally.
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The hardest part is just picking a random day to quit that doesn't have any meaning. I've decided to pick my half birthday on March 19th, one week from today. It'll give me time to prepare and it'll also mark 2 and a half years right on the day. I'll also be able to build a few friendships on the site hopefully and get a YouTube VLOG going for the journey. Now, just isn't the right time.. you can't jump into something and half ass it. I'm not going to half ass my quit and let people down. I'll wean myself off of it throughout this week as I have been doing, that way when I do cave, I don't break any promises. I'll make ya'll one promise! You'll see me post roll at midnight on March 19th. That day has a meaning and it'll also give me a reason to celebrate my 6 month mark which also occurs on my 21st birthday. I feel like it'll be the perfect combination.
What a fucking jack ass.
Your HALF birthday? What the fuck is a HALF birthday???
The best time to quit is today. The worst time to quit is tomorrow.
You're a fucking pussy ass bitch who is wasting everyone's time. Get busy quitting or get the fuck out of here.
Seriously, find your fucking sack and man the fuck up!!! HALF birthday...what a fucking joke.
Just read your entire intro. You're a habitual liar.
So add that to being a pussy. Nice combo, Sally.
I'd like to see this blossom into a real quit, but I don't really think that it is going to happen either. I don't think that Brandon is really ready to quit. Quitting takes some stones.
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The hardest part is just picking a random day to quit that doesn't have any meaning. I've decided to pick my half birthday on March 19th, one week from today. It'll give me time to prepare and it'll also mark 2 and a half years right on the day. I'll also be able to build a few friendships on the site hopefully and get a YouTube VLOG going for the journey. Now, just isn't the right time.. you can't jump into something and half ass it. I'm not going to half ass my quit and let people down. I'll wean myself off of it throughout this week as I have been doing, that way when I do cave, I don't break any promises. I'll make ya'll one promise! You'll see me post roll at midnight on March 19th. That day has a meaning and it'll also give me a reason to celebrate my 6 month mark which also occurs on my 21st birthday. I feel like it'll be the perfect combination.
It's the 19th. HAPPY HALF BIRTHDAY!!!!
Didn't see you post roll at midnight...didn't see you do ANY of the things you said you were going to do.
Did see you add another lie to your pathetic "attempts" to quit.
What a complete bitch.
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I really can't see how a competent human being could write such dribble. Maybe someone that was Borderline Personality Disorder or Histrionic Personality Disorder.
So, if you are a really serious about quitting then answer the three questions until everyone is satisfied with them.
Also, if you are sincere why do you think all these other people are giving you the metaphorical jabbing you are getting.
If you aren't serious now, come back when you are.
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Checked out his March 16 video. Had to kind of laugh, as it contains all the same bullshit addict excuses we all used for years/decades. At the same time, it is sad, because it reminded me of how those excuses dictated my every action for 2.5 decades. Here is a review of the video:
-my gums are f'd up so I had to put it in my upper lip (spit in red solo cup)
-I've waited 2 years for this Copenhagen mint to come out to Ohio (spit in red solo cup)
-I always knew the day would come when I would have to quit (spit in red solo cup)
-I bought a log of this mint but only opened this can,I'll just finish this can (spit in red solo cup)
-I might finish the log and then quit...
That was when I stopped watching the train wreck. And that is what this story is. I can say that, Diesel can say that... Because both of us lived our own versions of this train wreck. Brandon won't quit until he wants to quit. Nicotine has its hooks in him bad.
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Checked out his March 16 video. Had to kind of laugh, as it contains all the same bullshit addict excuses we all used for years/decades. At the same time, it is sad, because it reminded me of how those excuses dictated my every action for 2.5 decades. Here is a review of the video:
-my gums are f'd up so I had to put it in my upper lip (spit in red solo cup)
-I've waited 2 years for this Copenhagen mint to come out to Ohio (spit in red solo cup)
-I always knew the day would come when I would have to quit (spit in red solo cup)
-I bought a log of this mint but only opened this can,I'll just finish this can (spit in red solo cup)
-I might finish the log and then quit...
That was when I stopped watching the train wreck. And that is what this story is. I can say that, Diesel can say that... Because both of us lived our own versions of this train wreck. Brandon won't quit until he wants to quit. Nicotine has its hooks in him bad.
Probably waiting until Monday. You know, start the week off right.
I realize the power this shit has over you. TRUST ME, I know!!!
Just don't come on here talking all big and bad and not following through on ANYTHING you say.
The cocky talk with empty promises hasn't worked. How about you try a humble, one day at a time approach?
Any doosh can talk big and bad but a real man backs it up. Its obvious we aren't dealing with a man here. We are dealing with a scared little boy.
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Checked out his March 16 video. Had to kind of laugh, as it contains all the same bullshit addict excuses we all used for years/decades. At the same time, it is sad, because it reminded me of how those excuses dictated my every action for 2.5 decades. Here is a review of the video:
-my gums are f'd up so I had to put it in my upper lip (spit in red solo cup)
-I've waited 2 years for this Copenhagen mint to come out to Ohio (spit in red solo cup)
-I always knew the day would come when I would have to quit (spit in red solo cup)
-I bought a log of this mint but only opened this can,I'll just finish this can (spit in red solo cup)
-I might finish the log and then quit...
That was when I stopped watching the train wreck. And that is what this story is. I can say that, Diesel can say that... Because both of us lived our own versions of this train wreck. Brandon won't quit until he wants to quit. Nicotine has its hooks in him bad.
Probably waiting until Monday. You know, start the week off right.
I realize the power this shit has over you. TRUST ME, I know!!!
Just don't come on here talking all big and bad and not following through on ANYTHING you say.
The cocky talk with empty promises hasn't worked. How about you try a humble, one day at a time approach?
Any doosh can talk big and bad but a real man backs it up. Its obvious we aren't dealing with a man here. We are dealing with a scared little boy.
He now says this site is stupid because all your doing is trading your addiction to nicotine for an addiction to this site
Also, none of us will ever be free because we'll always be addicted to this site.
Pretty sound logic...
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Checked out his March 16 video. Had to kind of laugh, as it contains all the same bullshit addict excuses we all used for years/decades. At the same time, it is sad, because it reminded me of how those excuses dictated my every action for 2.5 decades. Here is a review of the video:
-my gums are f'd up so I had to put it in my upper lip (spit in red solo cup)
-I've waited 2 years for this Copenhagen mint to come out to Ohio (spit in red solo cup)
-I always knew the day would come when I would have to quit (spit in red solo cup)
-I bought a log of this mint but only opened this can,I'll just finish this can (spit in red solo cup)
-I might finish the log and then quit...
That was when I stopped watching the train wreck. And that is what this story is. I can say that, Diesel can say that... Because both of us lived our own versions of this train wreck. Brandon won't quit until he wants to quit. Nicotine has its hooks in him bad.
Probably waiting until Monday. You know, start the week off right.
I realize the power this shit has over you. TRUST ME, I know!!!
Just don't come on here talking all big and bad and not following through on ANYTHING you say.
The cocky talk with empty promises hasn't worked. How about you try a humble, one day at a time approach?
Any doosh can talk big and bad but a real man backs it up. Its obvious we aren't dealing with a man here. We are dealing with a scared little boy.
He now says this site is stupid because all your doing is trading your addiction to nicotine for an addiction to this site
Also, none of us will ever be free because we'll always be addicted to this site.
Pretty sound logic...
I hope he realizes just how fucking stupid that statement is. Just goes to show he doesn't even know what an addiction is. I have fought a losing battle with this shit for 30 years. This is the ONLY way I can keep that bitch off my back, not because I am addicted to the site (I feel stupid even repeating that dumb statement) but because you guys hold me accountable. It's sad but I hope one day, before its too late, he'll figure out his error and come back. Until that day I ain't gonna 'bang head' over some candy ass pussy who can't even sack up to show up.
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Checked out his March 16 video. Had to kind of laugh, as it contains all the same bullshit addict excuses we all used for years/decades. At the same time, it is sad, because it reminded me of how those excuses dictated my every action for 2.5 decades. Here is a review of the video:
-my gums are f'd up so I had to put it in my upper lip (spit in red solo cup)
-I've waited 2 years for this Copenhagen mint to come out to Ohio (spit in red solo cup)
-I always knew the day would come when I would have to quit (spit in red solo cup)
-I bought a log of this mint but only opened this can,I'll just finish this can (spit in red solo cup)
-I might finish the log and then quit...
That was when I stopped watching the train wreck. And that is what this story is. I can say that, Diesel can say that... Because both of us lived our own versions of this train wreck. Brandon won't quit until he wants to quit. Nicotine has its hooks in him bad.
Probably waiting until Monday. You know, start the week off right.
I realize the power this shit has over you. TRUST ME, I know!!!
Just don't come on here talking all big and bad and not following through on ANYTHING you say.
The cocky talk with empty promises hasn't worked. How about you try a humble, one day at a time approach?
Any doosh can talk big and bad but a real man backs it up. Its obvious we aren't dealing with a man here. We are dealing with a scared little boy.
He now says this site is stupid because all your doing is trading your addiction to nicotine for an addiction to this site
Also, none of us will ever be free because we'll always be addicted to this site.
Pretty sound logic...
I hope he realizes just how fucking stupid that statement is. Just goes to show he doesn't even know what an addiction is. I have fought a losing battle with this shit for 30 years. This is the ONLY way I can keep that bitch off my back, not because I am addicted to the site (I feel stupid even repeating that dumb statement) but because you guys hold me accountable. It's sad but I hope one day, before its too late, he'll figure out his error and come back. Until that day I ain't gonna 'bang head' over some candy ass pussy who can't even sack up to show up.
So, we are at the point where we decide to quit giving him what he wants and that is attention in any form her can get it OR stop right here. His behaviour is no different than other Borderline Personality Disorder people I have met and treated. BPD and Histrionic Personality Disorder are the attention seekers. Mountains out of Mole Hill people. They seek drama and attention. Me. I am done.
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You are a drama queen Brandon. You think none of us have bad days? You think we just danced through the fog like it was a parade? You do not actually WANT to quit. If you WANTED to quit you would have kept your word to us and stayed quit for more than 24 hours. I can completely believe that you caved 3 times in less than a week.
You want stress? I'm 24 years old, have to have back surgery next week and got denied for disability coverage because my back was a pre-existing condition. I'll be off work with no pay and we will have to make it through a month or two with just my wife's pay. I'm not trying to one up you or anything but the point that I am trying to make is everyone here has stress in their life. Everyone here could give you 99 reasons that they should pack can and lip... but the real badasses can give you 100 reasons why they shouldn't.
I hope you'll quit because the longer you go without quitting, the harder quitting will get. Nut up or shut up, quit or stop wasting people's time.
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This is unfortunate. With your line of thinking Brandon you won't quit. I can guarantee you everyone on this site had the same thoughts you are having. While I don't agree with all the words being used. I do agree with the sentiment being transmitted. You will not quit until you man up and just do it. I always said I dipped for a year and quit for twelve. It wasn't until I decide to make a commitment to myself, to God, and ton this site that I actually made the quit real. There will always be a tomorrow when you put off quitting.
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Ehh, not weak. That website is fucked yo in so many ways. All they're trying to do there is replace your nicotine addiction with being addicted to the forum. Quitting the cab is all about being free, but that website is far from being free. It is a great tool, I love some people there, but most of them are dickheads. I shouldn't have to post everyday first thing in the morning that I won't use nicotine. It's stupid. It should be more about helping people quit, questions and answers. Simply having someone post their name and what day they're on everyday for the rest of their life isn't how you quit. It does no good, it's simply replacing one addiction with another. With that being said, you're weak. You had to replace your addiction as where I can live free without having people jumping down my throat with one missed post or whatever bullshit. So with that being said, fuck off and enjoy your newly acquired addiction, dick head.
^^^ That was Brandon's response to someone on his youtube channel.
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Ehh, not weak. That website is fucked yo in so many ways. All they're trying to do there is replace your nicotine addiction with being addicted to the forum. Quitting the cab is all about being free, but that website is far from being free. It is a great tool, I love some people there, but most of them are dickheads. I shouldn't have to post everyday first thing in the morning that I won't use nicotine. It's stupid. It should be more about helping people quit, questions and answers. Simply having someone post their name and what day they're on everyday for the rest of their life isn't how you quit. It does no good, it's simply replacing one addiction with another. With that being said, you're weak. You had to replace your addiction as where I can live free without having people jumping down my throat with one missed post or whatever bullshit. So with that being said, fuck off and enjoy your newly acquired addiction, dick head.
^^^ That was Brandon's response to someone on his youtube channel.
Is he 12 cause my teenager has more sound logic then that. if he is an adult by age only, then before he tries to quit Dip, he might want to visit the psych center and get his meds adjusted and regulated first.
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Ehh, not weak. That website is fucked yo in so many ways. All they're trying to do there is replace your nicotine addiction with being addicted to the forum. Quitting the cab is all about being free, but that website is far from being free. It is a great tool, I love some people there, but most of them are dickheads. I shouldn't have to post everyday first thing in the morning that I won't use nicotine. It's stupid. It should be more about helping people quit, questions and answers. Simply having someone post their name and what day they're on everyday for the rest of their life isn't how you quit. It does no good, it's simply replacing one addiction with another. With that being said, you're weak. You had to replace your addiction as where I can live free without having people jumping down my throat with one missed post or whatever bullshit. So with that being said, fuck off and enjoy your newly acquired addiction, dick head.
^^^ That was Brandon's response to someone on his youtube channel.
Is he 12 cause my teenager has more sound logic then that. if he is an adult by age only, then before he tries to quit Dip, he might want to visit the psych center and get his meds adjusted and regulated first.
Sad. Just sad. Watch the videos and you'll understand.
Unfortunately, I think almost all of us were that 18 year old kid once. We can stop any time. We will just finish this can. OK, this roll. Hey, buddy, I'm out can I just have a pinch? Yeah, it might cause cancer, but fuck man I'm just 18. It only kills old guys. Makes me tough. I look better in my truck (OK, in my case my little car) with this shit in my lip. I gotta have it to play baseball. It makes me play my video games better...
Brandon can't come up with one reason (aka excuse) that I and the others posting on this train wreck of a thread haven't already come up with. It sucks that he is going down the same stupid road all of us went down, but hey... somebody's gotta pay for all of those private jets that Altria UST have. They don't run on food stamps, folks.
Worktowin 1,185 (and if typing that makes me a stupid forum addict - I'm good with that)
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Ehh, not weak. That website is fucked yo in so many ways. All they're trying to do there is replace your nicotine addiction with being addicted to the forum. Quitting the cab is all about being free, but that website is far from being free. It is a great tool, I love some people there, but most of them are dickheads. I shouldn't have to post everyday first thing in the morning that I won't use nicotine. It's stupid. It should be more about helping people quit, questions and answers. Simply having someone post their name and what day they're on everyday for the rest of their life isn't how you quit. It does no good, it's simply replacing one addiction with another. With that being said, you're weak. You had to replace your addiction as where I can live free without having people jumping down my throat with one missed post or whatever bullshit. So with that being said, fuck off and enjoy your newly acquired addiction, dick head.
^^^ That was Brandon's response to someone on his youtube channel.
He does not know the first thing about addiction and recovery. He has no idea how many people have benefited from a program like this or a 12 step program. He is clueless and is wanting attention. He wants people on his side so he doesn't feel so bad about caving. If it is so easy to quit then his first time quitting should have been his last. To call us week is a pathetic gesture at compensating for his attitude and his true lack of righteousness. The inability to to grasp this concept is a total lack of acceptance of whom he is. Furthermore, his reaction is the same reaction you get from all addicts who failed at there attempt to quit. Blame the counselor, the 12 step program, blame there mom, blame the judge, the cops....whomever. It is about others and not their failure. I know this for a fact. This is stereotypical addict blaming behavior. Any viewing of his channel is considered a win for him. just like as a counselor if I was to listen to why an addict failed so many times before they came through my door or I visited them in a jailhouse. listening to them validates how they feel no matter what I say after listening to them. Addict behavior.
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Ehh, not weak. That website is fucked yo in so many ways. All they're trying to do there is replace your nicotine addiction with being addicted to the forum. Quitting the cab is all about being free, but that website is far from being free. It is a great tool, I love some people there, but most of them are dickheads. I shouldn't have to post everyday first thing in the morning that I won't use nicotine. It's stupid. It should be more about helping people quit, questions and answers. Simply having someone post their name and what day they're on everyday for the rest of their life isn't how you quit. It does no good, it's simply replacing one addiction with another. With that being said, you're weak. You had to replace your addiction as where I can live free without having people jumping down my throat with one missed post or whatever bullshit. So with that being said, fuck off and enjoy your newly acquired addiction, dick head.
^^^ That was Brandon's response to someone on his youtube channel.
He does not know the first thing about addiction and recovery. He has no idea how many people have benefited from a program like this or a 12 step program. He is clueless and is wanting attention. He wants people on his side so he doesn't feel so bad about caving. If it is so easy to quit then his first time quitting should have been his last. To call us week is a pathetic gesture at compensating for his attitude and his true lack of righteousness. The inability to to grasp this concept is a total lack of acceptance of whom he is. Furthermore, his reaction is the same reaction you get from all addicts who failed at there attempt to quit. Blame the counselor, the 12 step program, blame there mom, blame the judge, the cops....whomever. It is about others and not their failure. I know this for a fact. This is stereotypical addict blaming behavior. Any viewing of his channel is considered a win for him. just like as a counselor if I was to listen to why an addict failed so many times before they came through my door or I visited them in a jailhouse. listening to them validates how they feel no matter what I say after listening to them. Addict behavior.
The really odd part to me was that in the video he talked so highly about the site. Then when that one studly looking hunk guy asked him why he didn't post role he went polar opposite.
At least cope mint is in Ohio now. He had been waiting 2 years for that shit.
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Ehh, not weak. That website is fucked yo in so many ways. All they're trying to do there is replace your nicotine addiction with being addicted to the forum. Quitting the cab is all about being free, but that website is far from being free. It is a great tool, I love some people there, but most of them are dickheads. I shouldn't have to post everyday first thing in the morning that I won't use nicotine. It's stupid. It should be more about helping people quit, questions and answers. Simply having someone post their name and what day they're on everyday for the rest of their life isn't how you quit. It does no good, it's simply replacing one addiction with another. With that being said, you're weak. You had to replace your addiction as where I can live free without having people jumping down my throat with one missed post or whatever bullshit. So with that being said, fuck off and enjoy your newly acquired addiction, dick head.
^^^ That was Brandon's response to someone on his youtube channel.
He does not know the first thing about addiction and recovery. He has no idea how many people have benefited from a program like this or a 12 step program. He is clueless and is wanting attention. He wants people on his side so he doesn't feel so bad about caving. If it is so easy to quit then his first time quitting should have been his last. To call us week is a pathetic gesture at compensating for his attitude and his true lack of righteousness. The inability to to grasp this concept is a total lack of acceptance of whom he is. Furthermore, his reaction is the same reaction you get from all addicts who failed at there attempt to quit. Blame the counselor, the 12 step program, blame there mom, blame the judge, the cops....whomever. It is about others and not their failure. I know this for a fact. This is stereotypical addict blaming behavior. Any viewing of his channel is considered a win for him. just like as a counselor if I was to listen to why an addict failed so many times before they came through my door or I visited them in a jailhouse. listening to them validates how they feel no matter what I say after listening to them. Addict behavior.
The really odd part to me was that in the video he talked so highly about the site. Then when that one studly looking hunk guy asked him why he didn't post role he went polar opposite.
At least cope mint is in Ohio now. He had been waiting 2 years for that shit.
Good point Diesel. At least he's happy.
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Damn.
Nicotine is such a horrible thing. It tricks you, particularly when you are young, into believing that you need it. Then the addiction takes hold. You don't need it, but quitting is hard. When you are young, it is so easy to fall into... I'll just have one after thanksgiving dinner... Then buy a new can... Then go out in your truck to a friends and play video games...dip at their house... And the whole cycle repeats.
It is so easy to get scared and go to the dentist in a flurry of panic only to get good news and say FUCK YEAH and buy just one can to celebrate. Ginet lines this scenario out perfectly.
It is easy to feel anxious and believe that nicotine helps/heals this. It doesn't. It can't. It won't. Nicotine creates anxiety. Try running out and going from store to store late at night looking for your brand. Or frantically hiding you cans/spitters from a new girlfriend. Try waking up with a big swollen gland in your neck.
I've seen a couple of young guys come on and post YouTube videos about their quit journey. I call it bravado. Both had a series of caves... But you know, I get it.
See, 1,175 days ago I quit. I joined Ktc and I went all in with the site. I exchanged phone numbers. I posted roll as soon as my eyes open. And by God I kept my word to my brothers. Now, for 9,000 days before that (that's 25 years, Brandon) I told myself daily that I was gonna quit today. Threw out thousands of unempty cans. Bought a new one the next day. But no more!
My parents spent thousands on braces for me. My dad died of a heart attack at 52 which I'm certain nicotine helped cause. My grandpa died of colon cancer which tobacco caused. I've had giant swollen glands in my neck. I've wasted 45,000 dollars. I've lied to myself and my family/friends about my addiction.
But... I will not lie to the KTC community. These guys/gals are like you and me. If you don't wanna quit, don't quit. It is hard. No question. It isn't as hard as taking chemo or losing a jaw. But it is hard. And if you aren't ready for the journey, stop fucking around and don't take the journey. Keep buying cans and spitting in your Dasani bottle. But don't waste your time on here until you really mean it. It is frustrating and pointless.
I just hope that you make the decision earlier than my dad. Or my grandpa. Or me.
Pure ass truth. Good gosh I'm jacked up right now. Feel like I could lift a freakin car. hahah
Folks like worktowin are what make this site so special. So helpful.
Proud to quit with you today, Worktowin.
Sincerely,
Proud Stupid Forum Addict