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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: JCR on April 05, 2012, 11:35:00 PM
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My name is Jeff,
I started dipping at age 15 when a buddy in high school gave me my first dip which was Kodiak mint (rough one to start on). I am now 26 years old and have been a loyal Copenhagen Wintergreen customer for some time now. I have easily been going through a can a day for the past 3 years. I dipped liked crazy through college, especially when studying and then was lucky enough to get a job that keeps me in the field most of the time, where I can dip all day, so this is going to suck. I have tried to quit in the past so many times that I have lost count and none of them lasted longer than 10 days (Super Addicted). I have come to this site a few times over the past few months and was skeptical but it seems like you all really help each other out and in all honesty I have tried everything. I want to quit.
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Your word...
Does it mean anything?
Give it. Then keep it.
Whatever it takes.
The rest will take care of itslef.
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I am ready to post and having some trouble figuring this out - any help?
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I am ready to post and having some trouble figuring this out - any help?
You are in the right place. Are you quit now? It will be rough but we are all going through the same thing. We don't have to look any further than today, 1 day at a time is possible if you are commited. I'll PM you right now and share my contact info.
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Are you quit now? It will be rough but we are all going through the same thing. We don't have to look any further than today, 1 day at a time is possible if you are commited. I'll PM you right now and share my contact info.
I am quit now, as of this evening. Tomorrow will be my first full day, I appreciate your help.
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Are you quit now? It will be rough but we are all going through the same thing. We don't have to look any further than today, 1 day at a time is possible if you are commited. I'll PM you right now and share my contact info.
I am quit now, as of this evening. Tomorrow will be my first full day, I appreciate your help.
I went ahead and checked if you posted right couldn't find it so I posted for you
Make sure everything is flushed get rid of all temptations. Stay strong I pm my phone# use it if your in trouble!!!
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I went ahead and checked if you posted right couldn't find it so I posted for you
OK - I went and looked at it. I will try to get it right tomorrow. Thanks for your help. My mind is going to be all over the place tomorrow without the Nic fix.
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I went ahead and checked if you posted right couldn't find it so I posted for you
OK - I went and looked at it. I will try to get it right tomorrow. Thanks for your help. My mind is going to be all over the place tomorrow without the Nic fix.
Be ready for trigger when or where you always chew, or where you stop to buy. Avoid if possible if not just prepare your self to keep your promise to yourself and brothers to stay quit. Post early in the day tomorrow. When you get pissed don't take it out on family and friends come here and blowup at us remember we're all crazy addicts we can take it and give it back too!
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Hey JCR, I just wanted to add to your welcome. Great decision. I was like you (most of us were): I had tried everything before I came here. These guys convinced me to stop trying, and start doing. So now I don't try to quit, I quit. Just for today. I have repeated that 73 times now.
Great job quitting TODAY!
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I went ahead and checked if you posted right couldn't find it so I posted for you
OK - I went and looked at it. I will try to get it right tomorrow. Thanks for your help. My mind is going to be all over the place tomorrow without the Nic fix.
You got it! Now just keep getting it right, every morning, for the rest of your life!
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How in the hell did this happen?
How in the hell did I allow a can of tobacco to make such an impact on me that now I have certain activities like...waking up, showering, long drives, working, hunting, fishing, college football season, after work out, anything that requires any concentration whatsoever that I associate it with needing my dip.
How in the hell did I allow dip to come between me and my fiancé as I tried to quit last year and she got involved (I was quitting for her more than for me and thats why it didn't work). To date fellas (we have been together 5 years) the only lie I have ever told her in those 5 years was with regard to dipping. One afternoon she left the house, I put in a dip and before she got back I tossed it in the toilet (Forgot to flush). She found it, and asked me if I was dipping again and I thought I flushed it so I said no (I lied/ and she caught me) The point is this, she now supports me in my quit but I am quitting for me and it is my decision, I wanted to leave her out of it because I didn't want to resent her for me having to give up something I love. How in the hell did this happen, one would think, if you find the one you want to spend the rest of your life that something like smokeless tobacco would take the backseat ---
Today is day 1 for me, and only half way through it now and the cravings are strong it makes me realize what a dumb ass I was for starting this shit in the first place. FK it... Going for run.
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How in the hell did this happen?
How in the hell did I allow a can of tobacco to make such an impact on me that now I have certain activities like...waking up, showering, long drives, working, hunting, fishing, college football season, after work out, anything that requires any concentration whatsoever that I associate it with needing my dip.
How in the hell did I allow dip to come between me and my fiancé as I tried to quit last year and she got involved (I was quitting for her more than for me and thats why it didn't work). To date fellas (we have been together 5 years) the only lie I have ever told her in those 5 years was with regard to dipping. One afternoon she left the house, I put in a dip and before she got back I tossed it in the toilet (Forgot to flush). She found it, and asked me if I was dipping again and I thought I flushed it so I said no (I lied/ and she caught me) The point is this, she now supports me in my quit but I am quitting for me and it is my decision, I wanted to leave her out of it because I didn't want to resent her for me having to give up something I love. How in the hell did this happen, one would think, if you find the one you want to spend the rest of your life that something like smokeless tobacco would take the backseat ---
Today is day 1 for me, and only half way through it now and the cravings are strong it makes me realize what a dumb ass I was for starting this shit in the first place. FK it... Going for run.
How the hell did this happen?
That's a damn good question! It's gonna suck, but you're on the right track. Lots of water, exercise and sex will help ease the first few days. Take it one day at a time, every crave will be weaker as you grow stronger.
Never let it happen again, never again! Take caving out as an option...you got this bro, pm me if you need anything
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Today is day 1 for me, and only half way through it now and the cravings are strong it makes me realize what a dumb ass I was for starting this shit in the first place. FK it... Going for run.
I'm confused. You joined in mid March but today is day one? Can you explain a little please?
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Maybe he lurked for a few days?
Dude, I'm on day 3 and its sucking ass. I wont fawk my quit if you dont. Hang with me. I'm gunna make it. PM me later if you need to chat. I'll be on tonight.
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day 3 really aint to bad for me but everyone s different
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That's one of the fucking great things about quitting. You find that you CAN take a shit without a dip, you CAN drive to work without a dip, you CAN watch a football game without a lipper, you CAN mow the grass without dip.
It is really amazing how many things we associated with dipping. Bunch of dumb ass addicts, all of us. How the hell did it happen? Great question - I got no good answer.
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Today is day 1 for me, and only half way through it now and the cravings are strong it makes me realize what a dumb ass I was for starting this shit in the first place. FK it... Going for run.
I'm confused. You joined in mid March but today is day one? Can you explain a little please?
I joined a long time ago and was just exploring different resources to help me quit. After reading different individuals comments I realized that posting roll was something taken serious which I respected. For that reason I never posted. I joined the site a while back but have just been reading around on it and did not commit to quitting until yesterday evening. Day 1 is coming to an end, I am sure sleeping will be impossible but I look forward to taking on day 2 tomorrow. I appreciate all of your help today and responses.
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Today is day 1 for me, and only half way through it now and the cravings are strong it makes me realize what a dumb ass I was for starting this shit in the first place. FK it... Going for run.
I'm confused. You joined in mid March but today is day one? Can you explain a little please?
I joined a long time ago and was just exploring different resources to help me quit. After reading different individuals comments I realized that posting roll was something taken serious which I respected. For that reason I never posted. I joined the site a while back but have just been reading around on it and did not commit to quitting until yesterday evening. Day 1 is coming to an end, I am sure sleeping will be impossible but I look forward to taking on day 2 tomorrow. I appreciate all of your help today and responses.
Roger that. Thanks for laying that out for me. Welcome to July, they are a great group of quitters. Make sure you post roll, keep your word and repeat. This is the hardest but the best thing you will ever go. The advantage here is you have a great group of brothers to keep you on track. PM me if you need numbers or anything else.
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You posted day 2. Well done! My advice is to take this 1 day at a time. Good job today. pm me if you need help.
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For those of you that have been quit for some time now when did it become to where you stopped associating certain activities with dipping?
For example, if I am going on a long drive, Im dipping more than I am not. I am curious to know when that wears off or if it ever does.
Another example, if I find myself in a stressful situation regarding work, life, pretty much anything, I truly feel like a dip will make me handle that situation more effectively (How crazy is that?) When does that go away?
I am on day 2 today and it was far more shitty than day 1 with regard to the cravings. With that said, I know I don't have a whole lot of room to talk and I know they say it takes 72 hours to get the nic out of your system so I am definitely not being impatient, nor am I allowing the cravings to win, I am staying strong but am just looking for some wisdom. I am just wondering if life is just always going to suck without dip, because I love dip and miss it like hell. But Im done and not turning back.
Any comments or information would be appreciated.
Just curious. Thanks for your time.
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For those of you that have been quit for some time now when did it become to where you stopped associating certain activities with dipping?
For example, if I am going on a long drive, Im dipping more than I am not. I am curious to know when that wears off or if it ever does.
Another example, if I find myself in a stressful situation regarding work, life, pretty much anything, I truly feel like a dip will make me handle that situation more effectively (How crazy is that?) When does that go away?
I am on day 2 today and it was far more shitty than day 1 with regard to the cravings. With that said, I know I don't have a whole lot of room to talk and I know they say it takes 72 hours to get the nic out of your system so I am definitely not being impatient, nor am I allowing the cravings to win, I am staying strong but am just looking for some wisdom. I am just wondering if life is just always going to suck without dip, because I love dip and miss it like hell. But Im done and not turning back.
Any comments or information would be appreciated.
Just curious. Thanks for your time.
Absolutely. When I first quit, everything I did I associated with my past dirty habit. For example, when I go to the driving range or golf course, it's really hard for me to not think about dip. The same thing applies to playing video games or drinking beer with my buddies.
These are called "triggers"...and for a damn good reason. Our mind has been wired to associate a particular habit in our lifestyle with our addiction. It's the nic bitch in and of itself.
If it weren't for "triggers," I would imagine that it would be a whole lot easier to put down the can for good. Unfortunately, that's not a luxury we have. Every time we are faced with a situation in which dipping is associate is a challenge. You have to either 1) avoid the trigger, which can be difficult because triggers are something we enjoy anyway....or 2) face the triggers and beat down the cravings using pure willpower.
It's all part of the struggle. Myself...I don't live my life any differently now than I did before I dipped for 9 years. But everyone is different.
Keep pressing on.
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I love dip and miss it like hell.
JCR -
Let me first congratulate you for choosing freedom and welcome you to our little corner of the web where we choose freedom from slavery, one day at a time.
Now, make no mistake. With regard to your comment, you DO NOT love dip nor do you miss it like hell. Take that shit out of your head. That is the addiction talking.
To your question. I think every individual is different. I dipped over a can a day for 21 years and after finding KTC have remained active here and just posted Day 256 of freedom. For me it is amazing. Since around day 110 I have had no craves. All of the things I used to do with dip don't bother me anymore like it did in the beginning. Bottom line, it gets so much better. However, I will be the first to admit and give credit that the key to my success is daily doses of KTC. I've gotten to know lots of folks here and have made some good friends. Embrace the principles and spend time here daily. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
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I love dip and miss it like hell.
JCR -
Let me first congratulate you for choosing freedom and welcome you to our little corner of the web where we choose freedom from slavery, one day at a time.
Now, make no mistake. With regard to your comment, you DO NOT love dip nor do you miss it like hell. Take that shit out of your head. That is the addiction talking.
To your question. I think every individual is different. I dipped over a can a day for 21 years and after finding KTC have remained active here and just posted Day 256 of freedom. For me it is amazing. Since around day 110 I have had no craves. All of the things I used to do with dip don't bother me anymore like it did in the beginning. Bottom line, it gets so much better. However, I will be the first to admit and give credit that the key to my success is daily doses of KTC. I've gotten to know lots of folks here and have made some good friends. Embrace the principles and spend time here daily. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
Thank you both for taking the time to respond-I appreciate it and have a lot of respect for you.
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For those of you that have been quit for some time now when did it become to where you stopped associating certain activities with dipping?
For example, if I am going on a long drive, Im dipping more than I am not. I am curious to know when that wears off or if it ever does.
Another example, if I find myself in a stressful situation regarding work, life, pretty much anything, I truly feel like a dip will make me handle that situation more effectively (How crazy is that?) When does that go away?
I am on day 2 today and it was far more shitty than day 1 with regard to the cravings. With that said, I know I don't have a whole lot of room to talk and I know they say it takes 72 hours to get the nic out of your system so I am definitely not being impatient, nor am I allowing the cravings to win, I am staying strong but am just looking for some wisdom. I am just wondering if life is just always going to suck without dip, because I love dip and miss it like hell. But Im done and not turning back.
Any comments or information would be appreciated.
Just curious. Thanks for your time.
Absolutely. When I first quit, everything I did I associated with my past dirty habit. For example, when I go to the driving range or golf course, it's really hard for me to not think about dip. The same thing applies to playing video games or drinking beer with my buddies.
These are called "triggers"...and for a damn good reason. Our mind has been wired to associate a particular habit in our lifestyle with our addiction. It's the nic bitch in and of itself.
If it weren't for "triggers," I would imagine that it would be a whole lot easier to put down the can for good. Unfortunately, that's not a luxury we have. Every time we are faced with a situation in which dipping is associate is a challenge. You have to either 1) avoid the trigger, which can be difficult because triggers are something we enjoy anyway....or 2) face the triggers and beat down the cravings using pure willpower.
It's all part of the struggle. Myself...I don't live my life any differently now than I did before I dipped for 9 years. But everyone is different.
Keep pressing on.
Do you want to know what my biggest trigger was?
Being awake
I would have a dip from the moment I woke up (sometimes with one in my mouth while I was sleeping). I'd wake up with shit strewn all over my face. My mouth would taste disgusting. My tongue and throat burned from swallowing most of it.
I'd get up, clean up my face, and pop another dip in.
I was Fucking pathetic.
I hought i loved dip. I thought i NEEDED it to be happy.
The other day at my oldest's baseball practice, we were teaching the boys how to swing the bat. Each boy was lining up at the plate, and each boy had a flaw in his swing. Some had jump steps when the ball came. Others stepped towards third base. Some didn't step at all. We gave them some exercises to do at home, and I can already see a difference in my son's swing after a few days.
A baseball swing is about muscle memory. After a few hundred times of doing the same shit over and over again, our bodies just do it. We don't have to think about it so much.
That's what quitting is about.
We learn how to hit life's pitches in proper form sans nicotine. It takes muscle memory to get the proper form. It might take a few times at the plate, or some work, but soon our bodies learn they can do it and actually do it without thinking.
You are on day 2, and that id badass.
Don't rush it. It will come with some practice.
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JCR, it's interesting as I just posted prior to checking the new posts. In several of my posts I note that I learned I could do ______ without dipping. Like the other day, we went to the movies with cousins from out of town. I normally have to buy my own soda so I can have a spit cup. I actually thought about that for an instant then laughed 'crackup' saying Oh yeah, I am quit!! I am on day 176 and every day gets better. Stay quit my friend.