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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Native94 on December 17, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
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Good afternoon fellas, I killed my last "Grizzly" bear last Night and today starts my 1st day of quitting. I first had my encounter with the bear 6 long years ago when I was 13. Yes I'm only 19 but I feel like I've quit 100 times already but hopefully with this site I'll start my quit for the last time. After reading some of the struggles of others on here I have really come to almost feel hypocritically. My family has been growing tobacco here in western Kentucky for generations. I've worked in the stuff since I was 6 years old, it's how I payed for my first truck and no tellin how many cans of Grizzly wintergreen throughout the last few years. I do feel bad now about helping to supply big tobacco companies, but I do think my family's days of growing it are comin to an end. My dad's getting older, I'm off at college (Murray State University but probably seminary in Indianapolis next year.. Yes I'm catholic and yes I'm considering a life without a woman.. Some of you may be jealous or may bust my balls over it but just keep it in good fun please.) and i could never see myself growing it for the rest of my life so I guess it's just a matter of time until my old man gives it up. These next few weeks of quiting will be the toughest for me and I'll need some help, because I'm home for Christmas break and I don't have a single close friend that doesn't dip. If I can make through this break though I do believe I can go the rest of my life without it. So I guess my first question is how do you stay quit when your surrounded by friends who are more than willing to give you a pinch?
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Good afternoon fellas, I killed my last "Grizzly" bear last Night and today starts my 1st day of quitting. I first had my encounter with the bear 6 long years ago when I was 13. Yes I'm only 19 but I feel like I've quit 100 times already but hopefully with this site I'll start my quit for the last time. After reading some of the struggles of others on here I have really come to almost feel hypocritically. My family has been growing tobacco here in western Kentucky for generations. I've worked in the stuff since I was 6 years old, it's how I payed for my first truck and no tellin how many cans of Grizzly wintergreen throughout the last few years. I do feel bad now about helping to supply big tobacco companies, but I do think my family's days of growing it are comin to an end. My dad's getting older, I'm off at college (Murray State University but probably seminary in Indianapolis next year.. Yes I'm catholic and yes I'm considering a life without a woman.. Some of you may be jealous or may bust my balls over it but just keep it in good fun please.) and i could never see myself growing it for the rest of my life so I guess it's just a matter of time until my old man gives it up. These next few weeks of quiting will be the toughest for me and I'll need some help, because I'm home for Christmas break and I don't have a single close friend that doesn't dip. If I can make through this break though I do believe I can go the rest of my life without it. So I guess my first question is how do you stay quit when your surrounded by friends who are more than willing to give you a pinch?
Welcome aboard Native! Nice job posting roll - you are in the March 2014 group. Once comment from your intro... We don't "hopefully" quit here. You either do, or you do not. Since you chose to post roll I see you as a DO. You can quit today. I am doing and so shall you.
Read up on the site. Get some alternatives to help you get thru this day. We quit ODAAT. That is the only way.
The key is do not put any form of nicotine in your piehole today! You are now quit and we keep our word once we post roll.
Quit with you today bro!
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Hi Native
First off, good job posting roll. It took me 4 days to get it right and I still mess it up sometimes. Posting roll and keeping your promise to not dip today are the foundation of success.
As for as staying quit around others who dip,,, It comes down to really wanting this shit OUT of our lives. Its the hardest thing I have ever done,so you have to really really really want it for yourself. This has to be a selfish thing as we are the ones who put it in out lips and we are the ones that decide not to. Read everything you can on this site. There are so many inspirational stories and victories here. Lean on those that came before us. They paved the way for you and me.
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Thanks guys, I'm committed to it and this is totally a selfish quit. I've been forced to quit twice before for a month long period (summer programs I decided to bring no dip to) and man do I miss how good that felt. I felt free, yes I was foggy but through that fog everything felt clearer somehow. What I really miss the most is the energy I had when I was quit. And the money as well. Being a broke ass college student I'm tired of digging through my cup holders for change to buy a can, and I sure as hell don't want to spend all of my money from selling my books back after finals on dip now. I'm going cold turkey, no alternatives I need the money and I don't need bandaids I'll just get addicted to. My Moms been quit cigarettes for 9 years but she still chews a pack and half of big red everyday. That's not gonna be me.
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My Moms been quit cigarettes for 9 years 'oh yeah' but she still chews a pack and half of big red everyday. That's not gonna be me.
Whatever it takes to keep it out of your face and however long it takes. Everyone here would chew a pack n a half of assholes a day to stay quit.
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My Moms been quit cigarettes for 9 years 'oh yeah' but she still chews a pack and half of big red everyday. That's not gonna be me.
Whatever it takes to keep it out of your face and however long it takes. Everyone here would chew a pack n a half of assholes a day to stay quit.
Fuckin' aye Raz...bring on the assholes, I'll chew 'em to stay quit!!
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So I guess my first question is how do you stay quit when your surrounded by friends who are more than willing to give you a pinch?
man i wrote this about coworkers, but it should work for you...
man your coworkers are fuckin with your quit? time to teach um the tryed and true ktc way that you and your quit are not to be fucked with. next time one a those fucks offers you a dip heres what you need to do:
1. take can with big smile
2. open can
3. rotate arm at the wrist 180 degrees, there by emptyin contents of can on ground
4. step on pile of worm shit
5. twist at knee and ankel to grind worm shit back in to ground
6. replace lid
7. hand can back to coworker with a smile
8. remind him that you will be willin to help him agin any time
9. repete as nessassary til no buddy will ever offer you a dip agin. evin if you ask for it.
ps if you can piss on the worm shit thats evin better then grindin it in to the ground.
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Welcome Native! One day at a time. That's all we can do. I've woken up every morning since finding this site I post roll before I even take a leak. Then all I have to do is keep my word the rest of the day.
I've found the fake dip has helped me out too. Holler if you need anything.
Jeff
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Good afternoon fellas, I killed my last "Grizzly" bear last Night and today starts my 1st day of quitting. I first had my encounter with the bear 6 long years ago when I was 13. Yes I'm only 19 but I feel like I've quit 100 times already but hopefully with this site I'll start my quit for the last time. After reading some of the struggles of others on here I have really come to almost feel hypocritically. My family has been growing tobacco here in western Kentucky for generations. I've worked in the stuff since I was 6 years old, it's how I payed for my first truck and no tellin how many cans of Grizzly wintergreen throughout the last few years. I do feel bad now about helping to supply big tobacco companies, but I do think my family's days of growing it are comin to an end. My dad's getting older, I'm off at college (Murray State University but probably seminary in Indianapolis next year.. Yes I'm catholic and yes I'm considering a life without a woman.. Some of you may be jealous or may bust my balls over it but just keep it in good fun please.) and i could never see myself growing it for the rest of my life so I guess it's just a matter of time until my old man gives it up. These next few weeks of quiting will be the toughest for me and I'll need some help, because I'm home for Christmas break and I don't have a single close friend that doesn't dip. If I can make through this break though I do believe I can go the rest of my life without it. So I guess my first question is how do you stay quit when your surrounded by friends who are more than willing to give you a pinch?
Welcome to the March 2014 group. I am new here as well but have gained a lot of insight from those have quit before us and those in the boat with us.
When you get back around your old friends let them know that you are done putting dog turds in your lip. If they are really your friends they will respect that and may quit with you.
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Hey native - when you are this early in your quit, you need to not be hanging around friends who would gladly give you a dip in a weak moment.
You also need to be avoiding alcohol, as that lowers your willpower and makes you think you can handle "just one".
I'd also recommend telling those friends that you are quit now, and that they are never to give you a chew no matter how much you beg. And just to test their loyalty, do as syndrome said below, before you ever get to a weak moment - ask them for a chew, and if they hand you their can, dump the shiit on the ground. They will stop giving you their can after that!
Welcome to the site, bro. I quit with you today!
Remember, one day at a time!
Rick
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Native, great choice to quit now. You're still young you certainly don't want to be quitting 20 or 30 years later when you can quit now. I too have a lot of friends that chew, but they have been very supportive. They try not to do it around me or ask me if it's going to be a problem.
Don't worry about becoming "addicted" to a crutch, be it gum, fake chew, etc. It's not nicotine it's not going to kill you. You put whatever you need to in your lip to keep the Grizz out!
Proud to be in the March group with you. I quit with you today.
Wintergreen
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Glad to have you on board here native. Look for a PM from me. Read all the stuff you can on this site and post with your group. Get some numbers from guys in your group and some ol dawgs around here who seem to have something that you want. I'll be looking forward to keeping an eye on your roll call and intro posts.
We can stay quit together.
Peace
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Native you have some strong quitters watching you, and some great "classmates" reaching out. That's exactly the start you need to create success for yourself. Follow their advice and make yourself at home on the site. You can do it, and now is the best time of all to give it your all!
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Welcome to the site. I'm in the March group with you.
Quitting with you my friend.
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A tobacco growing, former dipper who wants to become a man of the cloth.
We truly do get all kinds here!!!
However, no matter if your priest or a elephant dung picker upper, if you're here...you are family
We will watch your back through thick and thin.
You're right, these next few weeks are going to be hard for you. Not just because you're going to be home on Christmas break.
It would be hard if you were out in the middle of nowhere, in a fucking fallout shelter, in a hot air balloon, or on the moon.
Why? Because you're an addict.
You have been poisoning yourself to a point that your body has become dependant on you doing so. 1 pinch is too much and 100 would never be enough.
Even after 15 years of use I still used to overdose on dip. I would load and reload to the point of literal sickness and throw up. Didn't matter, I'd be dipping again in a couple hours, I would just "cool it a bit".
Even at that time, I never thought of myself as an addict. Just a guy with one bad vice. I often used to wonder "when will I stop this habbit?". Then I'd pop in a lip full and say "fuck it". It wasn't until I had a sore on my lip and I went into a full blown panic attack thinking I had the big C, did it dawn on me that maaaayyybeee I had a bit more of a problem than I realized.
I was an ADDICT. And I fucking HATED IT. Not me, no way, I was "better" than that. I wasn't. I couldn't fool myself with that nonsense any longer.
Luckily I found this place...its full of addicts, and they ain't half bad. In fact they are pretty fucking normal, hell a lot of them are just like me.
Were addicts, and so are you. Big fucking deal. I can think of about a million worse things to be. DEAD being at the top of the list.
You're a smart man for finding this site and deciding to quit at a young age.
I'm rambling on about this addict thing because many times I see young guys come through here with an arm full of good intentions, but fall off the map with a handful full of dick.
The main reason for that in my humble opinion is that they don't realize the seriousness of it all, and can't or won't admit they are controlled by weeds in can and are addicts.
If you can accept that fact, post your promise every day, and lean on those who have come before you as well as support those who walk with you. Then, you have everything you need to be quit...just like the rest of us addicts.
Welcome. If you need anything feel free to hit me up any time.
Quit on...
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A tobacco growing, former dipper who wants to become a man of the cloth.
We truly do get all kinds here!!!
However, no matter if your priest or a elephant dung picker upper, if you're here...you are family
We will watch your back through thick and thin.
You're right, these next few weeks are going to be hard for you. Not just because you're going to be home on Christmas break.
It would be hard if you were out in the middle of nowhere, in a fucking fallout shelter, in a hot air balloon, or on the moon.
Why? Because you're an addict.
You have been poisoning yourself to a point that your body has become dependant on you doing so. 1 pinch is too much and 100 would never be enough.
Even after 15 years of use I still used to overdose on dip. I would load and reload to the point of literal sickness and throw up. Didn't matter, I'd be dipping again in a couple hours, I would just "cool it a bit".
Even at that time, I never thought of myself as an addict. Just a guy with one bad vice. I often used to wonder "when will I stop this habbit?". Then I'd pop in a lip full and say "fuck it". It wasn't until I had a sore on my lip and I went into a full blown panic attack thinking I had the big C, did it dawn on me that maaaayyybeee I had a bit more of a problem than I realized.
I was an ADDICT. And I fucking HATED IT. Not me, no way, I was "better" than that. I wasn't. I couldn't fool myself with that nonsense any longer.
Luckily I found this place...its full of addicts, and they ain't half bad. In fact they are pretty fucking normal, hell a lot of them are just like me.
Were addicts, and so are you. Big fucking deal. I can think of about a million worse things to be. DEAD being at the top of the list.
You're a smart man for finding this site and deciding to quit at a young age.
I'm rambling on about this addict thing because many times I see young guys come through here with an arm full of good intentions, but fall off the map with a handful full of dick.
The main reason for that in my humble opinion is that they don't realize the seriousness of it all, and can't or won't admit they are controlled by weeds in can and are addicts.
If you can accept that fact, post your promise every day, and lean on those who have come before you as well as support those who walk with you. Then, you have everything you need to be quit...just like the rest of us addicts.
Welcome. If you need anything feel free to hit me up any time.
Quit on...
And this is just the kind of old fashioned cussing/ motivational speech/ bringing down to earth I needed. I did have a big head coming in here. But you sir just humbled me. And I can not thank you enough for that. Though I did not put the worm dirt in my lip tonight with my friends I accepted a few ciggarettes not thinking twice about it and thus caved already to some degree but I guess a cave is a cave(is that a cave though serious question just for clarification). Day 1 starts over tomorrow and I'm not gonna fall to tricks of nicotine, even if it means I have to call one of you boys crying like a baby. I feel a strong brotherhood of addicts and I'm glad I can begin my membership as a low man on the totem pole. Thanks for taking my cocky away diesel but thanks for truly helping a guy out because and that goes for all of y'all. I may have to try out the big red gum after all.
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No nicotine in any form.
Smoking is a cave.
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A tobacco growing, former dipper who wants to become a man of the cloth.
We truly do get all kinds here!!!
However, no matter if your priest or a elephant dung picker upper, if you're here...you are family
We will watch your back through thick and thin.
You're right, these next few weeks are going to be hard for you. Not just because you're going to be home on Christmas break.
It would be hard if you were out in the middle of nowhere, in a fucking fallout shelter, in a hot air balloon, or on the moon.
Why? Because you're an addict.
You have been poisoning yourself to a point that your body has become dependant on you doing so. 1 pinch is too much and 100 would never be enough.Â
Even after 15 years of use I still used to overdose on dip. I would load and reload to the point of literal sickness and throw up. Didn't matter, I'd be dipping again in a couple hours, I would just "cool it a bit". Â
Even at that time, I never thought of myself as an addict. Just a guy with one bad vice. I often used to wonder "when will I stop this habbit?". Then I'd pop in a lip full and say "fuck it". It wasn't until I had a sore on my lip and I went into a full blown panic attack thinking I had the big C, did it dawn on me that maaaayyybeee I had a bit more of a problem than I realized.
I was an ADDICT. And I fucking HATED IT. Not me, no way, I was "better" than that. I wasn't. I couldn't fool myself with that nonsense any longer.Â
Luckily I found this place...its full of addicts, and they ain't half bad. In fact they are pretty fucking normal, hell a lot of them are just like me.Â
Were addicts, and so are you. Big fucking deal. I can think of about a million worse things to be. DEAD being at the top of the list.
You're a smart man for finding this site and deciding to quit at a young age.
I'm rambling on about this addict thing because many times I see young guys come through here with an arm full of good intentions, but fall off the map with a handful full of dick.
The main reason for that in my humble opinion is that they don't realize the seriousness of it all, and can't or won't admit they are controlled by weeds in can and are addicts.
If you can accept that fact, post your promise every day, and lean on those who have come before you as well as support those who walk with you. Then, you have everything you need to be quit...just like the rest of us addicts.
Welcome. If you need anything feel free to hit me up any time.
Quit on...
And this is just the kind of old fashioned cussing/ motivational speech/ bringing down to earth I needed. I did have a big head coming in here. But you sir just humbled me. And I can not thank you enough for that. Though I did not put the worm dirt in my lip tonight with my friends I accepted a few ciggarettes not thinking twice about it and thus caved already to some degree but I guess a cave is a cave(is that a cave though serious question just for clarification). Day 1 starts over tomorrow and I'm not gonna fall to tricks of nicotine, even if it means I have to call one of you boys crying like a baby. I feel a strong brotherhood of addicts and I'm glad I can begin my membership as a low man on the totem pole. Thanks for taking my cocky away diesel but thanks for truly helping a guy out because and that goes for all of y'all. I may have to try out the big red gum after all.
Of course that's a cave. You're a nicotine addict, not just a dip addict.
Now just focus on making it through TODAY, without any nicotine.
Tomorrow...well we worry about that when if gets here. For now focus on today.
Start this by posting day 1 in the March 2014 quit group.
You CAN do this, if you WANT to and are going to take it serious.
If you are going to contunue to party with your boys and are unwilling to sacrifice some nights out, or give up drinking beers (a known quit killer) for awhile. Then you are destin to fail, and cannot be taken serious.
Up to you, sport.
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A tobacco growing, former dipper who wants to become a man of the cloth.
We truly do get all kinds here!!!
However, no matter if your priest or a elephant dung picker upper, if you're here...you are family
We will watch your back through thick and thin.
You're right, these next few weeks are going to be hard for you. Not just because you're going to be home on Christmas break.
It would be hard if you were out in the middle of nowhere, in a fucking fallout shelter, in a hot air balloon, or on the moon.
Why? Because you're an addict.
You have been poisoning yourself to a point that your body has become dependant on you doing so. 1 pinch is too much and 100 would never be enough.
Even after 15 years of use I still used to overdose on dip. I would load and reload to the point of literal sickness and throw up. Didn't matter, I'd be dipping again in a couple hours, I would just "cool it a bit".
Even at that time, I never thought of myself as an addict. Just a guy with one bad vice. I often used to wonder "when will I stop this habbit?". Then I'd pop in a lip full and say "fuck it". It wasn't until I had a sore on my lip and I went into a full blown panic attack thinking I had the big C, did it dawn on me that maaaayyybeee I had a bit more of a problem than I realized.
I was an ADDICT. And I fucking HATED IT. Not me, no way, I was "better" than that. I wasn't. I couldn't fool myself with that nonsense any longer.
Luckily I found this place...its full of addicts, and they ain't half bad. In fact they are pretty fucking normal, hell a lot of them are just like me.
Were addicts, and so are you. Big fucking deal. I can think of about a million worse things to be. DEAD being at the top of the list.
You're a smart man for finding this site and deciding to quit at a young age.
I'm rambling on about this addict thing because many times I see young guys come through here with an arm full of good intentions, but fall off the map with a handful full of dick.
The main reason for that in my humble opinion is that they don't realize the seriousness of it all, and can't or won't admit they are controlled by weeds in can and are addicts.
If you can accept that fact, post your promise every day, and lean on those who have come before you as well as support those who walk with you. Then, you have everything you need to be quit...just like the rest of us addicts.
Welcome. If you need anything feel free to hit me up any time.
Quit on...
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That's one of the best posts I've read here so far there are a LOT of good posts.
ODAAT
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A tobacco growing, former dipper who wants to become a man of the cloth.
We truly do get all kinds here!!!
However, no matter if your priest or a elephant dung picker upper, if you're here...you are family
We will watch your back through thick and thin.
You're right, these next few weeks are going to be hard for you. Not just because you're going to be home on Christmas break.
It would be hard if you were out in the middle of nowhere, in a fucking fallout shelter, in a hot air balloon, or on the moon.
Why? Because you're an addict.
You have been poisoning yourself to a point that your body has become dependant on you doing so. 1 pinch is too much and 100 would never be enough.Â
Even after 15 years of use I still used to overdose on dip. I would load and reload to the point of literal sickness and throw up. Didn't matter, I'd be dipping again in a couple hours, I would just "cool it a bit". Â
Even at that time, I never thought of myself as an addict. Just a guy with one bad vice. I often used to wonder "when will I stop this habbit?". Then I'd pop in a lip full and say "fuck it". It wasn't until I had a sore on my lip and I went into a full blown panic attack thinking I had the big C, did it dawn on me that maaaayyybeee I had a bit more of a problem than I realized.
I was an ADDICT. And I fucking HATED IT. Not me, no way, I was "better" than that. I wasn't. I couldn't fool myself with that nonsense any longer.Â
Luckily I found this place...its full of addicts, and they ain't half bad. In fact they are pretty fucking normal, hell a lot of them are just like me.Â
Were addicts, and so are you. Big fucking deal. I can think of about a million worse things to be. DEAD being at the top of the list.
You're a smart man for finding this site and deciding to quit at a young age.
I'm rambling on about this addict thing because many times I see young guys come through here with an arm full of good intentions, but fall off the map with a handful full of dick.
The main reason for that in my humble opinion is that they don't realize the seriousness of it all, and can't or won't admit they are controlled by weeds in can and are addicts.
If you can accept that fact, post your promise every day, and lean on those who have come before you as well as support those who walk with you. Then, you have everything you need to be quit...just like the rest of us addicts.
Welcome. If you need anything feel free to hit me up any time.
Quit on...
And this is just the kind of old fashioned cussing/ motivational speech/ bringing down to earth I needed. I did have a big head coming in here. But you sir just humbled me. And I can not thank you enough for that. Though I did not put the worm dirt in my lip tonight with my friends I accepted a few ciggarettes not thinking twice about it and thus caved already to some degree but I guess a cave is a cave(is that a cave though serious question just for clarification). Day 1 starts over tomorrow and I'm not gonna fall to tricks of nicotine, even if it means I have to call one of you boys crying like a baby. I feel a strong brotherhood of addicts and I'm glad I can begin my membership as a low man on the totem pole. Thanks for taking my cocky away diesel but thanks for truly helping a guy out because and that goes for all of y'all. I may have to try out the big red gum after all.
Sheesh, already a cave? Are you sure you want to quit? multiple people have given you the keys to stay quit in the early days - avoid alcohol, and avoid your friends who will give you nicotine and are NOT in your corner.
We can't quit for you, we can only help and provide support. you have to sack up and do it for yourself. if you aren't 100% committed to quitting, you're wasting everyone's time including your own.
Make a decision. I hope its the right one.
Rick
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I don't really have no excuses I just didn't really think too much about it last night. The alcohol ain't a problem because my friends don't really drink and I don't either except one or two once in a blue moon. Not last night when I caved either. I didn't read too much on here at all yesterday when I decided to start and kinda just skimmed over the no nicotine at all part so when offered a type of menthol I said yes. It wasn't until I got home a looked back over the roll call saw no nicotine at all and then said oh shit basically. I used to be a pack a day guy a few years ago but now I rarely smoke unless offered one. But today it's going to be no nicotine at all.
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I don't really have no excuses I just didn't really think too much about it last night. The alcohol ain't a problem because my friends don't really drink and I don't either except one or two once in a blue moon. Not last night when I caved either. I didn't read too much on here at all yesterday when I decided to start and kinda just skimmed over the no nicotine at all part so when offered a type of menthol I said yes. It wasn't until I got home a looked back over the roll call saw no nicotine at all and then said oh shit basically. I used to be a pack a day guy a few years ago but now I rarely smoke unless offered one. But today it's going to be no nicotine at all.
Ooops! No excuses! Really didn't think much about it last night.... My friends don't really drink, except last night when they gave me some nicotine......... I just skimmed over the site that said no nicotine at all........
Hey Native. I don't know you. But I know about being an addict. You will have to realize that you are one before you can really quit here. I have to say that I really don't think that you should post here and smoke or dip or do whatever your tobacco addiction calls for. Don't get me wrong. I want to see you quit. We all do. I just don't think anyone wants to hear about nicotine usage here while you are posting roll. The goal is to be quit here. Not post and cave! I quit with you today! And don't drink with nicotine packed friends during the holidays for sure!!!!!
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I don't really have no excuses I just didn't really think too much about it last night. The alcohol ain't a problem because my friends don't really drink and I don't either except one or two once in a blue moon. Not last night when I caved either. I didn't read too much on here at all yesterday when I decided to start and kinda just skimmed over the no nicotine at all part so when offered a type of menthol I said yes. It wasn't until I got home a looked back over the roll call saw no nicotine at all and then said oh shit basically. I used to be a pack a day guy a few years ago but now I rarely smoke unless offered one. But today it's going to be no nicotine at all.
Ooops! No excuses! Really didn't think much about it last night.... My friends don't really drink, except last night when they gave me some nicotine......... I just skimmed over the site that said no nicotine at all........
Hey Native. I don't know you. But I know about being an addict. You will have to realize that you are one before you can really quit here. I have to say that I really don't think that you should post here and smoke or dip or do whatever your tobacco addiction calls for. Don't get me wrong. I want to see you quit. We all do. I just don't think anyone wants to hear about nicotine usage here while you are posting roll. The goal is to be quit here. Not post and cave! I quit with you today! And don't drink with nicotine packed friends during the holidays for sure!!!!!
You have been given some very good advice. Take it and run. Remember, we were all dippers, but our addiction is to tobacco, and yes, that was a cave you had. If you block the chewing path, nicotine will tempt you with cigarettes, or a patch, or any other way it can find an unguarded path into your bloodstream.
As I was told, "keep your head on a swivel."
Fight the fight today. Get through today.
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(Murray State University but probably seminary in Indianapolis next year.. Yes I'm catholic and yes I'm considering a life without a woman.
dude...stay quit. There is no dip allowed in confessional
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I don't really have no excuses I just didn't really think too much about it last night. The alcohol ain't a problem because my friends don't really drink and I don't either except one or two once in a blue moon. Not last night when I caved either. I didn't read too much on here at all yesterday when I decided to start and kinda just skimmed over the no nicotine at all part so when offered a type of menthol I said yes. It wasn't until I got home a looked back over the roll call saw no nicotine at all and then said oh shit basically. I used to be a pack a day guy a few years ago but now I rarely smoke unless offered one. But today it's going to be no nicotine at all.
If you are committed to quitting, then cool - get back up on the horse and lets do this for real. Remember that your addiction is to nicotine, so quitting means no nicotine in any form - chew, smokes, nicorette gum, the patch, the lozenge, etc etc etc.
The key is to commit to being quit. Have a plan for weak moments, and a plan for every single moment early in your quit. Have candy, gum, fake/herbal chew, atomic fireballs, sunflower seeds, whatever your preference to occupy your mouth and mind.
You will experience moments of rage and anxiety in the first few weeks - have a plan for this also. Exercise is a great way to relieve this stress; some people use prayer, mediation, yoga - again, find something that works for you and use it often.
Hope that helps get you started. Any other things on your mind, things you're worried about that might ruin your quit? Lets talk about them and get a plan.
Rick
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Native... this is BS. When we post roll it means something. Read the Welcome Center and anyone with the ability to read knows this is a nicotine free site.
Coming back after smoking cigarettes and playing stupid doesn't work for me.
Figure out if you want to quit before you post roll. Everyone is being fairly nice to you right now, but you are on notice.
You don't get to just post a day 1, cave, come back for another day 1, cave, then another day 1, cave, then another day 1 cave... that is not how this works.
You either quit. Stay quit. Or get the F out and come back when you are ready.
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Do you want to quit? Really want to quit???
If you do really want to quit, then you have to take ownership of your quit.
You need to do everything you can to stay quit. READ everything on this website! Hit the salmon colored WELCOME CENTER button and read it like your life depends on it! Once you are done there read some random intro threads from start to finish. Read HOF speeches; read words of wisdom; hall of Legends. Go to the KillTheCan.org page and read some cancer stories; print out a contract to quit and wrap your purchasing power in it. Look at cancer photos. Learn all about your enemy: Nicotine...
Next step in ownership is taking all the advice and knowledge learned by reading and living it. Post roll and keep your word for 24 hours, and then repeat. Make friends with your quit brothers and sisters: get active with your quit-group, read and post on the intros. Get contact #s and use them (PM me and I'll give you mine). Get fake dip, seeds, gum, atomic fireballs, etc. to keep your mouth busy. Stay away from your nicotine using friends for a week or two to keep temptation down. The knowledge and support are here for you, but only if you own your quit.
Lots of bad assed quitters have given you all sorts of good advice in the last day and a half since you started this intro, but caving last night proves that all the knowledge and support in the world won't help you quit if you don't make use of it.
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19 years old and has the world by the balls...but can'f figure out what the meaning of quit is and how to go about it.
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I feel pretty shut down now after reading a lot of this. I'm sorry for messing up not to y'all but to myself I'm committed today I'm forgetting yesterday and I'm moving on.
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There's alot of "tough love" that happens on this site, Native. Just roll with it, and remember that successful quitters know that you need to have a zero tolerance policy in order to be successful. You have to drill that into your mind.
You messed up with the smokes, thinking you were still OK by not dipping - its a mistake, it happened, lets move on and start fresh today.
Posting roll is sacred on this site. It is our promise to each other that we will not use nicotine in any form, all day long. All we have on an online site like this is our word, our honesty. Without that, there is no point to the site. So people tend to get riled up about it when someone posts roll, and still has nicotine that day.
Just trying to explain the reactions of some of the quitters here. Hope you're still with us!
Rick
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I feel pretty shut down now after reading a lot of this. I'm sorry for messing up not to y'all but to myself I'm committed today I'm forgetting yesterday and I'm moving on.
Native,
As a guy that's only been here 31 days I don't know all the answers. The things I do know is I got beat up pretty good when I started posting 31 days ago. The main reason is I made the HOF in 2009 and then started chewing again about a year ago. I got beat up for disrespecting my old group, and for not coming in and reading how the site worked. For claiming I drank the kool-aid, when really I didn't. I got beat up for saying I was going to post when I felt like it. After lots of reading and discussion I figured out the system.
Anyway all I wanted to say was it wasn't easy taken the tongue lashing I got, but I took it (As I deserved it) and I think my final statement after the lashing was, "I'm done thinking about the past, all I can do is think about today". So with that said, don't forget the lashing, but don't let it scare ya away either.
I want to give you props for taking it and sticking around. Even in the short 31 days I've been here I've seen a handful of guys leave the site because they couldn't take a dose of reality, or someone talking harsh to them!
I'm quit with you today!
ScrewYouCope
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
This is Day 11 for me, I get it. It sucks and I want one really badly on pretty regular basis. I haven't done anything about it, though. I made a promise this morning and I will keep it. You posted roll today. You keep your promise too. Failure to keep promises makes for shitty quitters and shitty priests too. Think about that the next time you're about to cave. Then reach out if you still need help getting through. That's what this site is about.
Wintergreen
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
This is Day 11 for me, I get it. It sucks and I want one really badly on pretty regular basis. I haven't done anything about it, though. I made a promise this morning and I will keep it. You posted roll today. You keep your promise too. Failure to keep promises makes for shitty quitters and shitty priests too. Think about that the next time you're about to cave. Then reach out if you still need help getting through. That's what this site is about.
Wintergreen
Learn from the past.
Quit for today.
Fuck the future.
We can't do anything about any other time but this one. I got this moment...you got this moment. Plan to be quit, and you will be. Take your lumps. I did too.
But own this action and move forward. Never again (for ANY reason).
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
This is Day 11 for me, I get it. It sucks and I want one really badly on pretty regular basis. I haven't done anything about it, though. I made a promise this morning and I will keep it. You posted roll today. You keep your promise too. Failure to keep promises makes for shitty quitters and shitty priests too. Think about that the next time you're about to cave. Then reach out if you still need help getting through. That's what this site is about.
Wintergreen
Learn from the past.
Quit for today.
Fuck the future.
We can't do anything about any other time but this one. I got this moment...you got this moment. Plan to be quit, and you will be. Take your lumps. I did too.
But own this action and move forward. Never again (for ANY reason).
If this hillbilly can do it, then I know that YOU can TOO! All you have to do is "DECIDE". Do it for yourself and noone else. If you do it for yourself and make your quit very selfish (as selfish as your dipping was) you can BE QUIT.
It is real simple, but most likely the hardest thing you'll ever do in your life. You've got to get through hell to get to real living.
Believe me, there is a "real" difference between living and dipping.
Don't wait until your family is diagnosed with terminal cancer. Quit Today and I'll be Quit with YOU!
Post roll (the earlier the better)
Make it through the day (whatever it takes to "not" put the poison in your mouth) Get to bed.
Wake up and REPEAT.
Be free, be quit.
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Post role and Grind.
You fucked up. Learn from it and move on. Sometimes something awesome can come from a fuck up.
My Dad fucked up about 39 years ago...and I was born.
Nuff said.
Quit on..
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
I have an 8 and 10 year old. If I have to watch "Home Alone" one more fucking time, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose it!!!
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
I have an 8 and 10 year old. If I have to watch "Home Alone" one more fucking time, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose it!!!
I always cry at the end we he the old man hugs his granddaughter across the street.
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
I have an 8 and 10 year old. If I have to watch "Home Alone" one more fucking time, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose it!!!
I always cry at the end we he the old man hugs his granddaughter across the street.
Man up, the whole lot of you (except Diesel).
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
I have an 8 and 10 year old. If I have to watch "Home Alone" one more fucking time, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose it!!!
I always cry at the end we he the old man hugs his granddaughter across the street.
Man up, the whole lot of you (except Diesel).
My fault Evil. I won't quote Home Alone again! And Native94 get back to quitting now!
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
I have an 8 and 10 year old. If I have to watch "Home Alone" one more fucking time, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose it!!!
I always cry at the end we he the old man hugs his granddaughter across the street.
Man up, the whole lot of you (except Diesel).
My fault Evil. I won't quote Home Alone again! And Native94 get back to quitting now!
A real man is not ashamed to cry.
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
I have an 8 and 10 year old. If I have to watch "Home Alone" one more fucking time, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose it!!!
I always cry at the end we he the old man hugs his granddaughter across the street.
Man up, the whole lot of you (except Diesel).
My fault Evil. I won't quote Home Alone again! And Native94 get back to quitting now!
A real man is not ashamed to cry.
Speaking of Home Alone. I thought this (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/one-thing-that-youve-definitely-never-noticed-about-home-alo) was common knowledge.
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
I have an 8 and 10 year old. If I have to watch "Home Alone" one more fucking time, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose it!!!
I always cry at the end we he the old man hugs his granddaughter across the street.
Man up, the whole lot of you (except Diesel).
My fault Evil. I won't quote Home Alone again! And Native94 get back to quitting now!
A real man is not ashamed to cry.
Speaking of Home Alone. I thought this (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/one-thing-that-youve-definitely-never-noticed-about-home-alo) was common knowledge.
Watched part two last night cause nothing else was on.
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Don't forget to post roll today. If you need help reach out!!
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
We aren't trying to be mean native- Just remember "Santy don't visit the funeral homes, buddy!" We want to see you quit!!!
I have an 8 and 10 year old. If I have to watch "Home Alone" one more fucking time, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose it!!!
I always cry at the end we he the old man hugs his granddaughter across the street.
Man up, the whole lot of you (except Diesel).
My fault Evil. I won't quote Home Alone again! And Native94 get back to quitting now!
A real man is not ashamed to cry.
Speaking of Home Alone. I thought this (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/one-thing-that-youve-definitely-never-noticed-about-home-alo) was common knowledge.
Watched part two last night cause nothing else was on.
Part two...those parents should have been thrown in jail
and CPS should have taken Kevin away, after the first one.
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
This is Day 11 for me, I get it. It sucks and I want one really badly on pretty regular basis. I haven't done anything about it, though. I made a promise this morning and I will keep it. You posted roll today. You keep your promise too. Failure to keep promises makes for shitty quitters and shitty priests too. Think about that the next time you're about to cave. Then reach out if you still need help getting through. That's what this site is about.
Wintergreen
Y'all lost me with the home alone references haha but I made it through yesterday and the fog is beginning today so it's gonna be a tough one. Special thanks to wintergreen though what you said about shitty quitters and shitty priest is the only thing I could think about yesterday when craving. Thanks for helping me get through I'll be sure to always keep that in mind.
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
This is Day 11 for me, I get it. It sucks and I want one really badly on pretty regular basis. I haven't done anything about it, though. I made a promise this morning and I will keep it. You posted roll today. You keep your promise too. Failure to keep promises makes for shitty quitters and shitty priests too. Think about that the next time you're about to cave. Then reach out if you still need help getting through. That's what this site is about.
Wintergreen
Y'all lost me with the home alone references haha but I made it through yesterday and the fog is beginning today so it's gonna be a tough one. Special thanks to wintergreen though what you said about shitty quitters and shitty priest is the only thing I could think about yesterday when craving. Thanks for helping me get through I'll be sure to always keep that in mind.
That is great, Native!! you are kicking ass, bro, keep it up! You are in the worst of it now, I can promise you it gets better, but dont even worry about that - One day at a time. Just take care of today. Whatever it takes, whatever you need to do - no nicotine. I quit with you today.
Rick
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I'm still with y'all boys I made a bad first impression I can tell but I'll just have to prove my self not as big an idiot as I came across. My ass is a lil sore from the beating I got from y'all but I am not scared just motivated by it.
This is Day 11 for me, I get it. It sucks and I want one really badly on pretty regular basis. I haven't done anything about it, though. I made a promise this morning and I will keep it. You posted roll today. You keep your promise too. Failure to keep promises makes for shitty quitters and shitty priests too. Think about that the next time you're about to cave. Then reach out if you still need help getting through. That's what this site is about.
Wintergreen
Y'all lost me with the home alone references haha but I made it through yesterday and the fog is beginning today so it's gonna be a tough one. Special thanks to wintergreen though what you said about shitty quitters and shitty priest is the only thing I could think about yesterday when craving. Thanks for helping me get through I'll be sure to always keep that in mind.
That is great, Native!! you are kicking ass, bro, keep it up! You are in the worst of it now, I can promise you it gets better, but dont even worry about that - One day at a time. Just take care of today. Whatever it takes, whatever you need to do - no nicotine. I quit with you today.
Rick
OK native. I am glad you got through the day ok even with the Home Alone references. One day I'll tell you why I quoted the movie. Maybe you'll figure it out before I do. Quit on brother. We are in this with you!
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New question from me idk where to post it so I'm posting here in my intro, I finally read se cancer stories, Randy's story especially hit me hard. I don't want to see met friends die like that nor myself but I'm the kinda guy that cares more about other people than myself that finds my happiness in serving others, hints the priest thing with me. My friends are all 18-19 year old
Hard core dippers a can a day plus like I was. They've all tried to quit multiple times like I have. They all don't want to dip deep inside but it's just what we do together. It makes the get togethers we have since we all pretty much quit drinking a year or so ago still somewhat rebellious (what any young gun likes) these guys are great guys. All of em. If I was to get married and have a daughter one day if a boy like any of my closest friends would want to marry her id say yes in a heartbeat. I don't want to be at the bedside of one these guys dying with cancer begging God to give me one more day with them. How do I convince them fellas they are all convinced it's pretty much impossible, convinced they are young and invincible and cancer won't get them. Should I wait till I hit my HOF and have some backbone when I bring it up with them. Or go for it right now. It'd make my next few weeks of hell from breaking the physical addiction so much easier. Should I start with one on ones or talk with the whole group of guys at once. Give me some advice fellas I was about to cave tonight and read some of the cancer stories and now I'm close to shedding tears thinking about these my friends getting it. If I could convince atleast one of these guys to quit maybe. I'd even grow the balls to confront my Dad about his smoking even though we never really have had a great relationship.
I type all this on a tiny ass iPhone and it's 3 AM so sorry if I don't take the time to correct mistakes lol just incase there's any grammar nazis on here.
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New question from me idk where to post it so I'm posting here in my intro, I finally read se cancer stories, Randy's story especially hit me hard. I don't want to see met friends die like that nor myself but I'm the kinda guy that cares more about other people than myself that finds my happiness in serving others, hints the priest thing with me. My friends are all 18-19 year old
Hard core dippers a can a day plus like I was. They've all tried to quit multiple times like I have. They all don't want to dip deep inside but it's just what we do together. It makes the get togethers we have since we all pretty much quit drinking a year or so ago still somewhat rebellious (what any young gun likes) these guys are great guys. All of em. If I was to get married and have a daughter one day if a boy like any of my closest friends would want to marry her id say yes in a heartbeat. I don't want to be at the bedside of one these guys dying with cancer begging God to give me one more day with them. How do I convince them fellas they are all convinced it's pretty much impossible, convinced they are young and invincible and cancer won't get them. Should I wait till I hit my HOF and have some backbone when I bring it up with them. Or go for it right now. It'd make my next few weeks of hell from breaking the physical addiction so much easier. Should I start with one on ones or talk with the whole group of guys at once. Give me some advice fellas I was about to cave tonight and read some of the cancer stories and now I'm close to shedding tears thinking about these my friends getting it. If I could convince atleast one of these guys to quit maybe. I'd even grow the balls to confront my Dad about his smoking even though we never really have had a great relationship.
I type all this on a tiny ass iPhone and it's 3 AM so sorry if I don't take the time to correct mistakes lol just incase there's any grammar nazis on here.
Congrats on your quit bud, and the only back bone and foundation you need to have credibility with your friends is your heart and friendship... Live with no regrets I had deployments where when I came back I lost brothers to loved ones and memories to this day, wishing I had the balls to reach out about certain things.. But showing and PROVEING tomorrow's not guaranteed so go for it today bud. And sorry for misspells and punctuation I'm on here from my phone.. But lets right the food fight but right now I could use some sleeping pills lol tc
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New question from me idk where to post it so I'm posting here in my intro, I finally read se cancer stories, Randy's story especially hit me hard. I don't want to see met friends die like that nor myself but I'm the kinda guy that cares more about other people than myself that finds my happiness in serving others, hints the priest thing with me. My friends are all 18-19 year old
Hard core dippers a can a day plus like I was. They've all tried to quit multiple times like I have. They all don't want to dip deep inside but it's just what we do together. It makes the get togethers we have since we all pretty much quit drinking a year or so ago still somewhat rebellious (what any young gun likes) these guys are great guys. All of em. If I was to get married and have a daughter one day if a boy like any of my closest friends would want to marry her id say yes in a heartbeat. I don't want to be at the bedside of one these guys dying with cancer begging God to give me one more day with them. How do I convince them fellas they are all convinced it's pretty much impossible, convinced they are young and invincible and cancer won't get them. Should I wait till I hit my HOF and have some backbone when I bring it up with them. Or go for it right now. It'd make my next few weeks of hell from breaking the physical addiction so much easier. Should I start with one on ones or talk with the whole group of guys at once. Give me some advice fellas I was about to cave tonight and read some of the cancer stories and now I'm close to shedding tears thinking about these my friends getting it. If I could convince atleast one of these guys to quit maybe. I'd even grow the balls to confront my Dad about his smoking even though we never really have had a great relationship.
I type all this on a tiny ass iPhone and it's 3 AM so sorry if I don't take the time to correct mistakes lol just incase there's any grammar nazis on here.
Hey native. I'm not an old experienced quitter, but I do know a few things. First of all you need to protect your quit. Whatever that takes. You are going to have to get some days under your belt before you start worrying about everyone around you. I think you are on the right track thinking about waiting until you reach a milestone before you go saving your world of friends. It is just too much for you right now to think about your buds... Once you can show them you can quit it will be easier to convince them. AND I am seeing a major problem here in that if you continue to stick around dippers it will be much much harder to resist temptation. You really may have to ease off on the get togethers until you have the resolve to not dip ever again...
I get that you could be a priest. Quit on for today!!!!
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New question from me idk where to post it so I'm posting here in my intro, I finally read se cancer stories, Randy's story especially hit me hard. I don't want to see met friends die like that nor myself but I'm the kinda guy that cares more about other people than myself that finds my happiness in serving others, hints the priest thing with me. My friends are all 18-19 year old
Hard core dippers a can a day plus like I was. They've all tried to quit multiple times like I have. They all don't want to dip deep inside but it's just what we do together. It makes the get togethers we have since we all pretty much quit drinking a year or so ago still somewhat rebellious (what any young gun likes) these guys are great guys. All of em. If I was to get married and have a daughter one day if a boy like any of my closest friends would want to marry her id say yes in a heartbeat. I don't want to be at the bedside of one these guys dying with cancer begging God to give me one more day with them. How do I convince them fellas they are all convinced it's pretty much impossible, convinced they are young and invincible and cancer won't get them. Should I wait till I hit my HOF and have some backbone when I bring it up with them. Or go for it right now. It'd make my next few weeks of hell from breaking the physical addiction so much easier. Should I start with one on ones or talk with the whole group of guys at once. Give me some advice fellas I was about to cave tonight and read some of the cancer stories and now I'm close to shedding tears thinking about these my friends getting it. If I could convince atleast one of these guys to quit maybe. I'd even grow the balls to confront my Dad about his smoking even though we never really have had a great relationship.
I type all this on a tiny ass iPhone and it's 3 AM so sorry if I don't take the time to correct mistakes lol just incase there's any grammar nazis on here.
Hey native. I'm not an old experienced quitter, but I do know a few things. First of all you need to protect your quit. Whatever that takes. You are going to have to get some days under your belt before you start worrying about everyone around you. I think you are on the right track thinking about waiting until you reach a milestone before you go saving your world of friends. It is just too much for you right now to think about your buds... Once you can show them you can quit it will be easier to convince them. AND I am seeing a major problem here in that if you continue to stick around dippers it will be much much harder to resist temptation. You really may have to ease off on the get togethers until you have the resolve to not dip ever again...
I get that you could be a priest. Quit on for today!!!!
Congrats on your choice, I wish I was as smart as you at your age. My two cents, as much as you would love to drag your friends along the quit path with you, you can't. You can blaze the trial for them, show them the way, but you can't take them with you. This is your quit. The ones that want to quit will follow you.
God bless your journey.
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Focus on YOU right now. You have to be selfish. If not, you may not be around to be at your buddies bedside.
Get a strong grip on your own quit before you try to convert others. iI will tell you from eexperience that if they don't WANT to quit, there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Priest, Deacon, or Pope.
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New question from me idk where to post it so I'm posting here in my intro, I finally read se cancer stories, Randy's story especially hit me hard. I don't want to see met friends die like that nor myself but I'm the kinda guy that cares more about other people than myself that finds my happiness in serving others, hints the priest thing with me. My friends are all 18-19 year old
Hard core dippers a can a day plus like I was. They've all tried to quit multiple times like I have. They all don't want to dip deep inside but it's just what we do together. It makes the get togethers we have since we all pretty much quit drinking a year or so ago still somewhat rebellious (what any young gun likes) these guys are great guys. All of em. If I was to get married and have a daughter one day if a boy like any of my closest friends would want to marry her id say yes in a heartbeat. I don't want to be at the bedside of one these guys dying with cancer begging God to give me one more day with them. How do I convince them fellas they are all convinced it's pretty much impossible, convinced they are young and invincible and cancer won't get them. Should I wait till I hit my HOF and have some backbone when I bring it up with them. Or go for it right now. It'd make my next few weeks of hell from breaking the physical addiction so much easier. Should I start with one on ones or talk with the whole group of guys at once. Give me some advice fellas I was about to cave tonight and read some of the cancer stories and now I'm close to shedding tears thinking about these my friends getting it. If I could convince atleast one of these guys to quit maybe. I'd even grow the balls to confront my Dad about his smoking even though we never really have had a great relationship.
I type all this on a tiny ass iPhone and it's 3 AM so sorry if I don't take the time to correct mistakes lol just incase there's any grammar nazis on here.
Hey native. I'm not an old experienced quitter, but I do know a few things. First of all you need to protect your quit. Whatever that takes. You are going to have to get some days under your belt before you start worrying about everyone around you. I think you are on the right track thinking about waiting until you reach a milestone before you go saving your world of friends. It is just too much for you right now to think about your buds... Once you can show them you can quit it will be easier to convince them. AND I am seeing a major problem here in that if you continue to stick around dippers it will be much much harder to resist temptation. You really may have to ease off on the get togethers until you have the resolve to not dip ever again...
I get that you could be a priest. Quit on for today!!!!
Congrats on your choice, I wish I was as smart as you at your age. My two cents, as much as you would love to drag your friends along the quit path with you, you can't. You can blaze the trial for them, show them the way, but you can't take them with you. This is your quit. The ones that want to quit will follow you.
God bless your journey.
I would just like to say congrats on your quit . You have focus on your own quit I was like you I wanted to bring my friends along with me on my quit to . It was said to me like this you can lead them .Like the old saying goes you can lead horse to water but you cant force them to drink . I know that is hard to understand but get strong in your quit the ones that want to quit with you will. Remember it is done one day at a time also get you some friends on here to help when you are having some bad days or just want to chat with someone.
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New question from me idk where to post it so I'm posting here in my intro, I finally read se cancer stories, Randy's story especially hit me hard. I don't want to see met friends die like that nor myself but I'm the kinda guy that cares more about other people than myself that finds my happiness in serving others, hints the priest thing with me. My friends are all 18-19 year old
Hard core dippers a can a day plus like I was. They've all tried to quit multiple times like I have. They all don't want to dip deep inside but it's just what we do together. It makes the get togethers we have since we all pretty much quit drinking a year or so ago still somewhat rebellious (what any young gun likes) these guys are great guys. All of em. If I was to get married and have a daughter one day if a boy like any of my closest friends would want to marry her id say yes in a heartbeat. I don't want to be at the bedside of one these guys dying with cancer begging God to give me one more day with them. How do I convince them fellas they are all convinced it's pretty much impossible, convinced they are young and invincible and cancer won't get them. Should I wait till I hit my HOF and have some backbone when I bring it up with them. Or go for it right now. It'd make my next few weeks of hell from breaking the physical addiction so much easier. Should I start with one on ones or talk with the whole group of guys at once. Give me some advice fellas I was about to cave tonight and read some of the cancer stories and now I'm close to shedding tears thinking about these my friends getting it. If I could convince atleast one of these guys to quit maybe. I'd even grow the balls to confront my Dad about his smoking even though we never really have had a great relationship.
I type all this on a tiny ass iPhone and it's 3 AM so sorry if I don't take the time to correct mistakes lol just incase there's any grammar nazis on here.
Hey native. I'm not an old experienced quitter, but I do know a few things. First of all you need to protect your quit. Whatever that takes. You are going to have to get some days under your belt before you start worrying about everyone around you. I think you are on the right track thinking about waiting until you reach a milestone before you go saving your world of friends. It is just too much for you right now to think about your buds... Once you can show them you can quit it will be easier to convince them. AND I am seeing a major problem here in that if you continue to stick around dippers it will be much much harder to resist temptation. You really may have to ease off on the get togethers until you have the resolve to not dip ever again...
I get that you could be a priest. Quit on for today!!!!
Congrats on your choice, I wish I was as smart as you at your age. My two cents, as much as you would love to drag your friends along the quit path with you, you can't. You can blaze the trial for them, show them the way, but you can't take them with you. This is your quit. The ones that want to quit will follow you.
God bless your journey.
I would just like to say congrats on your quit . You have focus on your own quit I was like you I wanted to bring my friends along with me on my quit to . It was said to me like this you can lead them .Like the old saying goes you can lead horse to water but you cant force them to drink . I know that is hard to understand but get strong in your quit the ones that want to quit with you will. Remember it is done one day at a time also get you some friends on here to help when you are having some bad days or just want to chat with someone.
Good advice above. We focus on our quit ODAAT for a reason. We control OUR actions today. We don't control the past .. The future .. Or decisions of other people. You have to focus on making you right. Who knows... Maybe one of you buddies will come along for the ride at some point. For now, focus on what you control... Your quit! QLF today.
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Advice taken. Thanks fellas I'll wait definitely till my HOF probably. Last night I think the fog got me pretty emotional haha that's a side of me I guess I couldn't hide forever. But feeling those emotions last night made me sad but made me pissed. There was some empty cans in some of my drawers and when I went to throw em away I finally said the words fuck you I hate you. To the dip that I thought I loved even through my quit up until last night. I finally hate the stuff and my quit just got a whole lot more serious. Today's a rainy day and I'm stuck inside reading and watching the UK game switching it up between seeds and Grinds (coffee pouches my roommate bought me for my birthday a month ago being a smart ass but I'm actually needing them now.) as for hanging out with my dipping friends I don't think I can cut down on seeing them. I only have three weeks of break left and one of those I'll be in Dallas at a catholic thing but after these two weeks it'll prolly be a whole semester before I ever really get to see em all again. I'm just gonna hang tough and make it through. I love all y'all's advice but that part is just a lil to hard to listen to. I'm not trying to be cocky or anything but i ain't gonna tell y'all I'm gonna not hang out with them when I know I will every chance I get this break. I just gotta make it through till I get to college and none of my friends dip there until then it's ODAAT
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Advice taken. Thanks fellas I'll wait definitely till my HOF probably. Last night I think the fog got me pretty emotional haha that's a side of me I guess I couldn't hide forever. But feeling those emotions last night made me sad but made me pissed. There was some empty cans in some of my drawers and when I went to throw em away I finally said the words fuck you I hate you. To the dip that I thought I loved even through my quit up until last night. I finally hate the stuff and my quit just got a whole lot more serious. Today's a rainy day and I'm stuck inside reading and watching the UK game switching it up between seeds and Grinds (coffee pouches my roommate bought me for my birthday a month ago being a smart ass but I'm actually needing them now.) as for hanging out with my dipping friends I don't think I can cut down on seeing them. I only have three weeks of break left and one of those I'll be in Dallas at a catholic thing but after these two weeks it'll prolly be a whole semester before I ever really get to see em all again. I'm just gonna hang tough and make it through. I love all y'all's advice but that part is just a lil to hard to listen to. I'm not trying to be cocky or anything but i ain't gonna tell y'all I'm gonna not hang out with them when I know I will every chance I get this break. I just gotta make it through till I get to college and none of my friends dip there until then it's ODAAT
This is gonna sound harsh but ima say it anyway... You stay quit = life. You cave and start chewing again = death. This. Shit. Will. Kill. You.
Right now it's all about YOU staying quit. Stay strong.
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Advice taken. Thanks fellas I'll wait definitely till my HOF probably. Last night I think the fog got me pretty emotional haha that's a side of me I guess I couldn't hide forever. But feeling those emotions last night made me sad but made me pissed. There was some empty cans in some of my drawers and when I went to throw em away I finally said the words fuck you I hate you. To the dip that I thought I loved even through my quit up until last night. I finally hate the stuff and my quit just got a whole lot more serious. Today's a rainy day and I'm stuck inside reading and watching the UK game switching it up between seeds and Grinds (coffee pouches my roommate bought me for my birthday a month ago being a smart ass but I'm actually needing them now.) as for hanging out with my dipping friends I don't think I can cut down on seeing them. I only have three weeks of break left and one of those I'll be in Dallas at a catholic thing but after these two weeks it'll prolly be a whole semester before I ever really get to see em all again. I'm just gonna hang tough and make it through. I love all y'all's advice but that part is just a lil to hard to listen to. I'm not trying to be cocky or anything but i ain't gonna tell y'all I'm gonna not hang out with them when I know I will every chance I get this break. I just gotta make it through till I get to college and none of my friends dip there until then it's ODAAT
This is gonna sound harsh but ima say it anyway... You stay quit = life. You cave and start chewing again = death. This. Shit. Will. Kill. You.
Right now it's all about YOU staying quit. Stay strong.
This here is extremely well put AJ.
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You are getting great advice and support here, and you seem willing to drink the kool-aide. I cannot blame you for wanting to hang with your friends, but stay strong. I still have a groups of friends from my school days, and it is once a year if we are lucky that all of us get together, so enjoy your time with them. My friends all dip too. Some have quit, one stopped for years and then restarted, and my best friend does not believe anyone can truly quit... I hope to help them by being quit for x days when they are ready to quit. All of us addicts had people in our lives who wanted us to quit, but none of us are quit until we want it...
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Are you still quit native? If not get your ass back in here and get back on track