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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Letsgo14 on February 11, 2014, 11:51:00 PM
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I have reached the end of my dipping days. I've been dipping on and off for the past 10 years and the longest I've been quit is about a year. I need some extra help and that is why I joined this community. I've been reading a lot and the key seems to be taking it one day at a time and to post roll call.
For the past year or so, I keep promising myself that I will quit "tomorrow" and I wake up in the morning and first thing I do is buy a new can and dip to help with my pain. $6 a day and so much mental and physical energy has been devoted to this terrible addiction.
I am really suffering and my relationships, professional life, and personal well being have been negatively effected by my addiction. I will succeed in overcoming this and I am here to offer support to other quitters.
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You can do this and like you said posting roll is important. Even more important is understanding that it is pledge and requires you keeping your word. Being a man of honor will lead to success.
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I have reached the end of my dipping days. I've been dipping on and off for the past 10 years and the longest I've been quit is about a year. I need some extra help and that is why I joined this community. I've been reading a lot and the key seems to be taking it one day at a time and to post roll call.
For the past year or so, I keep promising myself that I will quit "tomorrow" and I wake up in the morning and first thing I do is buy a new can and dip to help with my pain. $6 a day and so much mental and physical energy has been devoted to this terrible addiction.
I am really suffering and my relationships, professional life, and personal well being have been negatively effected by my addiction. I will succeed in overcoming this and I am here to offer support to other quitters.
Congrats Letsgo, your in the right place. If you truly want to be quit, I promise that there is nothing standing in your way. You are correct. It's one day at a time. And posting roll is the key. Wake up early and post roll first thing. When you post roll it's your promise to your quit group and all those that support you and your group that for just that one day, you will not partake of any nicotine. You can do it. Taking that that first step and embarking on your first day of quit is the hardest step. After that, well heck, your walking with a great big group of supporters that are on the same journey. It's awesome. Taking our freedom back is the best thing that will ever happen to you. Hey, click on my name and send me a pm. I'll quit with you bro, every damn day !!!
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I have reached the end of my dipping days. I've been dipping on and off for the past 10 years and the longest I've been quit is about a year. I need some extra help and that is why I joined this community. I've been reading a lot and the key seems to be taking it one day at a time and to post roll call.
For the past year or so, I keep promising myself that I will quit "tomorrow" and I wake up in the morning and first thing I do is buy a new can and dip to help with my pain. $6 a day and so much mental and physical energy has been devoted to this terrible addiction.
I am really suffering and my relationships, professional life, and personal well being have been negatively effected by my addiction. I will succeed in overcoming this and I am here to offer support to other quitters.
Congrats Letsgo, your in the right place. If you truly want to be quit, I promise that there is nothing standing in your way. You are correct. It's one day at a time. And posting roll is the key. Wake up early and post roll first thing. When you post roll it's your promise to your quit group and all those that support you and your group that for just that one day, you will not partake of any nicotine. You can do it. Taking that that first step and embarking on your first day of quit is the hardest step. After that, well heck, your walking with a great big group of supporters that are on the same journey. It's awesome. Taking our freedom back is the best thing that will ever happen to you. Hey, click on my name and send me a pm. I'll quit with you bro, every damn day !!!
Heck yeah! Let's get it. Get fired up about it. It pissed me off to know I was wasting that money to more or less attempt to slowly kill myself and I know if you really get after it, blow the doors of the 1 yr mark. We are gonna help you knock it out day by day. There are some really great people on here that will be right there to help you.
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Thank you for the quick replies. It is comforting to know that I have support!
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Thank you for the quick replies. It is comforting to know that I have support!
were all in this together.. proud to be in may 2014 with you, quit on!
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Too many similar stories of daunting realization for us not to get each other's backs, especially in the newbie clan. Congrats on taking your life back, and welcome to Project Mayhem -- great to see you post roll. Take it one day at a time (ODAAT) and things will come together. It won't be easy, but you won't be alone, and it's all but certain that someone else has gone through similar struggles because of our shared addiction. Reach out, get some #s, and jump into the chat room when the fog is thick or you just need to rally. Look forward to quitting alongside you.
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Congrats on a great decision! Great job posting roll this morning!! Today is going yo be difficult, but spend time on the site, take a walk and remember you only have to quit today and you have a lot of folks quitting with you today. I'll be here to quit with you tomorrow when it gets here.
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I have reached the end of my dipping days. I've been dipping on and off for the past 10 years and the longest I've been quit is about a year. I need some extra help and that is why I joined this community. I've been reading a lot and the key seems to be taking it one day at a time and to post roll call.
For the past year or so, I keep promising myself that I will quit "tomorrow" and I wake up in the morning and first thing I do is buy a new can and dip to help with my pain. $6 a day and so much mental and physical energy has been devoted to this terrible addiction.
I am really suffering and my relationships, professional life, and personal well being have been negatively effected by my addiction. I will succeed in overcoming this and I am here to offer support to other quitters.
Congrats Letsgo on joining your May '14 quit group, and good job posting roll your very first day. I also offer my welcome alongside these other fine quitters. The first few days are a very difficult time...a living hell that we like to call "the big suck." Confusion, irritability, fog, massive cravings, and even some rage will make their way into your day. There's no easy way around these things, just embrace it and endure it. The good thing is that this toughest period last 3~4 days. After that it is just mind game control and crave management (!). A good antidote is to post messages here on the site, and read up on as many threads as you can. You will find a common bond with each and every quitter on board. Here's to you choosing life over dip. Glad to be quit with you today.
ZillahCowboy
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A little more $0.02 to help you cope. Drink lots of water and exercise, even if it's a walk around the block, it'll help. Read all you can on this site, tons of great advice sprinkled all over this place! Welcome aboard!
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Where are you going let's get going. Looks to me like your staying in the same hole you've lived in for years.
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According to your post in May today, there are three questions you need to answer.
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According to your post in May today, there are three questions you need to answer.
LetsGo
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What are you going to do different this time?
Don't gloss over your answers, this is as much for you as anyone else.
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According to your post in May today, there are three questions you need to answer.
LetsGo
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What are you going to do different this time?
Don't gloss over your answers, this is as much for you as anyone else.
You may get a do-over here, but you don't get a do-over with life. Don't you know that this is life or death? Keep the quit this time. Honor your word.
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According to your post in May today, there are three questions you need to answer.
LetsGo
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What are you going to do different this time?
Don't gloss over your answers, this is as much for you as anyone else.
You may get a do-over here, but you don't get a do-over with life. Don't you know that this is life or death? Keep the quit this time. Honor your word.
Letsgo -- A number of solid guys, both in Mayhem and quit groups long before ours, have posted comments to roll and your intro thread to find out what's going on. There's no lack of support here, and you're being summoned for a beat-down. We just want to understand your responses to the three questions so we know how big of a priority your quit is. Please let us know.
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
Your reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
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As long as you really believe that welcome back to May 14
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As long as you really believe that welcome back to May 14
It was a great exercise to read through dozens of HOF speeches and to pick out important lessons for quitting. I will keep adding more to my list and I will organize the list into a more coherent and beautiful HOF speech. I am just finishing day 1 and I am starting to slam that fucking door shut on tobacco.
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
Great job. Welcome and I am proud to be quit with you...
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Will anyone private message me their number? I would like to be able to text to add another layer of accountability.
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
bump, sorry, Emulator.
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accidental double post see above, lol
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As long as you really believe that welcome back to May 14
It was a great exercise to read through dozens of HOF speeches and to pick out important lessons for quitting. I will keep adding more to my list and I will organize the list into a more coherent and beautiful HOF speech. I am just finishing day 1 and I am starting to slam that fucking door shut on tobacco.
Don't start to slam the door, SHUT THAT DAMN THING NAIL IT SHUT, and as LOOT said WELD THE SEAMS!!! Gotta be all or nothing, words like, starting, want to, going to, do not help your quit. Hope you mean it dude, for yourself, I wish you luck and offer you support but don't make these guys regret it cause fool us once shame on you, fool us twice,,,,,,,,
Edit: Also glad you came back n posted that took a lot of guts, proud to quit with you in MAY.
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
bump, sorry, Emulator.
bump, folks are going to want to see this tomorrow morning.
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
bump, sorry, Emulator.
bump, folks are going to want to see this tomorrow morning.
I wanted to see this tonight. You are putting in the time, but please hone your skills daily and be preemptive. Outthink yourself. Dont give yourself any chance with nicotine and immediately send out texts for accountability. "Hey, dude...I just found old can of pouches/snuff/dip. Just letting you know. Feel free to text back anytime to hold me accountable." That reach out would have probably been the difference between Day 1 and +1. PM me if you want my digits for accountability. Im not here to judge you as strong or weak. I am here to help you in any way that I can. I wont think: dang...dude found pouches and gonna cave - how weak. No way! I think how smart and Im not going to let him down and will help my brother limp to the next safety zone, if need be. We can be here for you (and are) but we cant quit for you. We cant reach out for you. You're gonna do this!!
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
bump, sorry, Emulator.
bump, folks are going to want to see this tomorrow morning.
I wanted to see this tonight. You are putting in the time, but please hone your skills daily and be preemptive. Outthink yourself. Dont give yourself any chance with nicotine and immediately send out texts for accountability. "Hey, dude...I just found old can of pouches/snuff/dip. Just letting you know. Feel free to text back anytime to hold me accountable." That reach out would have probably been the difference between Day 1 and +1. PM me if you want my digits for accountability. Im not here to judge you as strong or weak. I am here to help you in any way that I can. I wont think: dang...dude found pouches and gonna cave - how weak. No way! I think how smart and Im not going to let him down and will help my brother limp to the next safety zone, if need be. We can be here for you (and are) but we cant quit for you. We cant reach out for you. You're gonna do this!!
Good follow-through, Letsgo. Clearly put some thought into this, and took advantage of the various resources of the site. Well done. Stay focused and re-read your list as the need arises. Better yet, reach out to your Mayhem brothers so you don't have to fight the craves / potential caves by yourself. We're here for you, welcome back to Mayhem.
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7. I woke up today and and am happy I didn't dip!
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7. I woke up today and and am happy I didn't dip!
You took your licks, Now im curious to see what your going to put in to your quit. 10% 50% 100%?? Always remember that what you put in to it, is what youll get out of it. Take it one day at a time and in my opinion, the only way to stay quit is to be involved with your quit. posting roll is the bare minimum, im all up in this site, if people havent seen me some where, its likely they are not on as much :). But like i said, i know for my quit i have to be up this sites ass for a while. Weather they like it or not. Stay quit bro, after all.......it is life or death.
Winter Green
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7. I woke up today and and am happy I didn't dip!
You took your licks, Now im curious to see what your going to put in to your quit. 10% 50% 100%?? Always remember that what you put in to it, is what youll get out of it. Take it one day at a time and in my opinion, the only way to stay quit is to be involved with your quit. posting roll is the bare minimum, im all up in this site, if people havent seen me some where, its likely they are not on as much :). But like i said, i know for my quit i have to be up this sites ass for a while. Weather they like it or not. Stay quit bro, after all.......it is life or death.
Winter Green
You are saying a lot of the right things... now it is time to walk the walk.
I know you can do it. You know what needs to be done. Quit today!
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
bump, sorry, Emulator.
bump, folks are going to want to see this tomorrow morning.
I wanted to see this tonight. You are putting in the time, but please hone your skills daily and be preemptive. Outthink yourself. Dont give yourself any chance with nicotine and immediately send out texts for accountability. "Hey, dude...I just found old can of pouches/snuff/dip. Just letting you know. Feel free to text back anytime to hold me accountable." That reach out would have probably been the difference between Day 1 and +1. PM me if you want my digits for accountability. Im not here to judge you as strong or weak. I am here to help you in any way that I can. I wont think: dang...dude found pouches and gonna cave - how weak. No way! I think how smart and Im not going to let him down and will help my brother limp to the next safety zone, if need be. We can be here for you (and are) but we cant quit for you. We cant reach out for you. You're gonna do this!!
Good follow-through, Letsgo. Clearly put some thought into this, and took advantage of the various resources of the site. Well done. Stay focused and re-read your list as the need arises. Better yet, reach out to your Mayhem brothers so you don't have to fight the craves / potential caves by yourself. We're here for you, welcome back to Mayhem.
You should post this in May if you have not done so.
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Hi everyone,
I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.
1. Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2. Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3. Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats. Blood is not flowing through my body.
4. Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5. Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6. All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7. I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8. I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9. I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10. Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11. Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12. Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13. Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14. Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15. Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16. Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17. IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18. I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19. I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20. The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21. By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22. My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23. When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
bump, sorry, Emulator.
bump, folks are going to want to see this tomorrow morning.
I wanted to see this tonight. You are putting in the time, but please hone your skills daily and be preemptive. Outthink yourself. Dont give yourself any chance with nicotine and immediately send out texts for accountability. "Hey, dude...I just found old can of pouches/snuff/dip. Just letting you know. Feel free to text back anytime to hold me accountable." That reach out would have probably been the difference between Day 1 and +1. PM me if you want my digits for accountability. Im not here to judge you as strong or weak. I am here to help you in any way that I can. I wont think: dang...dude found pouches and gonna cave - how weak. No way! I think how smart and Im not going to let him down and will help my brother limp to the next safety zone, if need be. We can be here for you (and are) but we cant quit for you. We cant reach out for you. You're gonna do this!!
Good follow-through, Letsgo. Clearly put some thought into this, and took advantage of the various resources of the site. Well done. Stay focused and re-read your list as the need arises. Better yet, reach out to your Mayhem brothers so you don't have to fight the craves / potential caves by yourself. We're here for you, welcome back to Mayhem.
You should post this in May if you have not done so.
So about #9.....I'm curious.....whose HOF speech did you glean that from?
'BanDog' 'crackup' 'BanDog'
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Well I am sad to see a cave but damn. I love the way you approached the answers.
Why did it happen...."I didn't Quit"
I see a ton of ownership and self evaluation. I really like that you can't control your addiction but you can control your choices.
No rage, no excuses. You acknowledge the problem, learned from it and taught me a few things in your responses.
I quit with you today. You are ready and can do this. We only need to be quit today. When tomorrow becomes today we repeat. That is the treatment for this addiction to keep your wits to chose wisely.
You just declared your freedom. Now its showtime! Take the pain and embrace it. The more it hurts and you win, the easier the next battle becomes.
Fignt and chose right.
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You should post this in your group. Couple things:
#9, Don't bite off more than you can chew. Ambition is great, but bearing too heavy a load will cause even a great man to stumble.
The overall tone seems like you just ripped shit from people's posts. Which is fine, lots of great quitters have come before you, but it lacks both cohesion and a personal touch.
PS, I would absolutely love for you to prove me wrong on any or all of these posts. Fake it until you make it.
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You should post this in your group. Couple things:
#9, Don't bite off more than you can chew. Ambition is great, but bearing too heavy a load will cause even a great man to stumble.
The overall tone seems like you just ripped shit from people's posts. Which is fine, lots of great quitters have come before you, but it lacks both cohesion and a personal touch.
PS, I would absolutely love for you to prove me wrong on any or all of these posts. Fake it until you make it.
You are right about biting off more than I can chew. It is important to take it one crave at a time and having the awareness that quitting dip is my top priority. If I can accomplish other things during the day, great! But if not, no need to get stressed. I can tackle other challenges as my confidence builds.
Isn't ripping "shit from other people's posts" what this support group is all about? People who have quit share what they have experienced and it is up to us to apply that knowledge to our quits. It does lack cohesion and personal touch but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew. :rolleyes: These ideas will be a starting point for my HOF speech.
What do you mean by "fake it until you make it?"
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You should post this in your group. Couple things:
#9, Don't bite off more than you can chew. Ambition is great, but bearing too heavy a load will cause even a great man to stumble.
The overall tone seems like you just ripped shit from people's posts. Which is fine, lots of great quitters have come before you, but it lacks both cohesion and a personal touch.
PS, I would absolutely love for you to prove me wrong on any or all of these posts. Fake it until you make it.
You are right about biting off more than I can chew. It is important to take it one crave at a time and having the awareness that quitting dip is my top priority. If I can accomplish other things during the day, great! But if not, no need to get stressed. I can tackle other challenges as my confidence builds.
Isn't ripping "shit from other people's posts" what this support group is all about? People who have quit share what they have experienced and it is up to us to apply that knowledge to our quits. It does lack cohesion and personal touch but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew. :rolleyes: These ideas will be a starting point for my HOF speech.
What do you mean by "fake it until you make it?"
Specifically that was in reference to you building a strong quit. When you start you're a newborn fawn and lots of things have the potential to knock you down, but it's up to you to build it to the point where it would be almost be impossible to knock you over. But between Bambi and Bambi-dozer there are a lot moments of uncertainty. When you're alone in the dark with a tin, ultimately the decision is yours.
tl;dr- Your quit is weak now. If you continue on your current track and work on it everyday it will become strong. In the meantime fake being strong until it's a reality.
This is not to say you shouldn't avail yourself of the resources available here. You definitely should, but what stopped you last time?
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:
1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.
Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.
1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.
I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.
Thanks,
Tim
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Nice feature that it puts my latest "introduction" with my previous intro from back in February. Imagine how much better off I would be if I would have kept with my quit from back in February. So much money and time wasted on dipping.
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:
1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.
Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.
1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.
I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.
Thanks,
Tim
Plenty of truisms on that list. Plenty more could be added. For example, "Serial cavers don't get it and KTC is not their pathway to success" comes to mind.
So, as someone who fits that bill by his own admission, what exactly is it that makes you think your third go around here on KTC will be any different from your first two? You know what it's like to get within spitting distance of the HoF and that the nic bitch still aggressively tries to coddle your balls at that point and for a long, long time after. So, what is it about this time that won't allow you to fall for her charms?
Finally, quitting isn't a "zone" that you get into or out of. You simply are either quit, or you aren't quit. I think that might be part of your problem.
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Nice feature that it puts my latest "introduction" with my previous intro from back in February. Imagine how much better off I would be if I would have kept with my quit from back in February. So much money and time wasted on dipping.
That's not a feature.
That's me.
And, yes...you would have kept with your quit had you stayed with me and the rest of the badasses on this site. The magic of the KTC is not a piece of software (thank God as I've had it up to here with software today). The magic of this place is the people here.
You're good at talking the talk upon return. You ain't so good at walking the walk though. What happened, why did you fail us twice, and what are you going to do differently this time? Most importantly, do you want to be quit?
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:
1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.
Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.
1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.
I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.
Thanks,
Tim
"Tim"Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
What in the fuck are you talking about? You made it to 200 days? When? Where?
Once an addict, always an addict? Fuck off. Just because you are an addict, doesn't mean you need to cave. Everyone here is an addict. You are a caver.
Don't talk about commitment on day 1. Talk about your shitty previous stoppage.
You bug me bro, mostly because if you had stayed with us, maybe you would have helped my quit. Maybe you would have helped the people in my group that I care about. Instead you chose to be selfish.
Why should we would invest in you?
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:
1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.
Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.
1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.
I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.
Thanks,
Tim
"Tim"Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
What in the fuck are you talking about? You made it to 200 days? When? Where?
Once an addict, always an addict? Fuck off. Just because you are an addict, doesn't mean you need to cave. Everyone here is an addict. You are a caver.
Don't talk about commitment on day 1. Talk about your shitty previous stoppage.
You bug me bro, mostly because if you had stayed with us, maybe you would have helped my quit. Maybe you would have helped the people in my group that I care about. Instead you chose to be selfish.
Why should we would invest in you?
190 days ago you posted your final day (day 83) in the May Group. You missed Roll 23 out of those 83 days. Most guys in May donÂ’t even remember you being around. You have had 89 posts this year, including those couple on this newest stop of yours. You really need to sack up and not be a little bitch this time. I doubt you will, though. History repeats. Whatever it is you need to do different, do it. I donÂ’t know because IÂ’m a quitter, my history repeats every damn day. Your history cycles, fades and then fails you.
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:
1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.
Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.
1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.
I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.
Thanks,
Tim
"Tim"Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
What in the fuck are you talking about? You made it to 200 days? When? Where?
Once an addict, always an addict? Fuck off. Just because you are an addict, doesn't mean you need to cave. Everyone here is an addict. You are a caver.
Don't talk about commitment on day 1. Talk about your shitty previous stoppage.
You bug me bro, mostly because if you had stayed with us, maybe you would have helped my quit. Maybe you would have helped the people in my group that I care about. Instead you chose to be selfish.
Why should we would invest in you?
190 days ago you posted your final day (day 83) in the May Group. You missed Roll 23 out of those 83 days. Most guys in May donÂ’t even remember you being around. You have had 89 posts this year, including those couple on this newest stop of yours. You really need to sack up and not be a little bitch this time. I doubt you will, though. History repeats. Whatever it is you need to do different, do it. I donÂ’t know because IÂ’m a quitter, my history repeats every damn day. Your history cycles, fades and then fails you.
14 you are not special and your lists are not worth shit. You still sound like a pure caver I checked your shit and you hardly ever posted anything other than roll then dropped off... pretty much the same story as every other losing caver. A true quitter said to me today, "I'm too quit too legit." There is so much more quit in that statement than in every sorry ass list you ever made in your life.
So you like to talk about how to quit once every few months after you cave. Try shutting your caving cave hole, if you STFU'd and listened you'd have quit right the first x times.
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ItÂ’s 11:00 on the East Coast, 8:00 out West. Why arenÂ’t you on roll? IsnÂ’t that on your list?
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What happened, why did you fail us twice, and what are you going to do differently this time? Most importantly, do you want to be quit?
Ok, I get it. I screwed up. Maybe I'm not man enough? Maybe I'm a little bitch? Maybe I'm just a bro? Some of you that have worked your asses off and been able to remain quit without caving deserve the right to get on us cavers. For all of you calling me out, how many times have you tried to quit? Have you ever caved before? Do you remember how hard it is to come back and make the decision to quit? Your tough love is working but compassion can also be effective. But maybe I don't deserve compassion because I'm selfish. I wonder how Jesus Christ would act?
You know what? I thought about just giving up and writing, you guys are right, this site doesn't work for me...have a nice day and not show up again. But that is my addiction talking and I can see from reading the HOF and Hall of Legends that this does work. Obviously the problem isn't the KTC method, the problem is me. I don't follow through. So typical of someone that dips. Don't you get it? I have been stuck as a slave to nicotine and I keep going back to it. And when I do try to quit, I don't follow through on posting every SINGLE FUCKING DAY. No other option for me.
Now to answer the original question...I had a day off of work, went to Applebee's, had some beer, stopped by the gas station, bought a can, and started dipping. It was that simple and happened so quick. I was hooked again and dipped very heavily. Sometimes 2-3 cans a day all up in my mouth. This time, I am going to private message every quitter in my HOF class, every day. I'm going to check in with each individual and help hold them accountable to their quit. Yes I want to be quit. The past month has been misery. I do not want to go through this bullshit again.
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ItÂ’s 11:00 on the East Coast, 8:00 out West. Why arenÂ’t you on roll? IsnÂ’t that on your list?
Roll is posted. I had trouble sleeping and I slept in.
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
It's bullshit. I'm putting it all out there. I'm a piece of shit but I'm getting better and that is what I'm here for. I am thankful for everyone here.
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.
He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.
But as you I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.
How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?
Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.
He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.
But as you I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.
How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?
Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
Then stop being a piece of shit and become a piece of quit.
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.
He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.
But as you I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.
How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?
Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
I don't understand shit. It is fucking hard to post roll every damn day and to keep this going. I hope I am not wasting everyone's time. Here is some advice: do not cave! Nicotine is waiting for you at every gas station in this country. I wouldn't drink alcohol either, that will get you in a cave. I am trying to warn all of you because it will happen to some. I want all of you HOFers to remember how shitty it is to be dipping again and to go through the first few days and to have to make that decision. If you do come back to ktc, people will come after you and offer no compassion. I am here to quit for myself and to help others quit.
Krusty, have you ever caved? Slug.go, have you ever caved? Or are you guys perfect on your first quit? I know wastepanel's story. I am here to remind you all that you are all addicts and that you need to keep your fucking guard up.
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.
He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.
But as you I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.
How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?
Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
I don't understand shit. It is fucking hard to post roll every damn day and to keep this going. I hope I am not wasting everyone's time. Here is some advice: do not cave! Nicotine is waiting for you at every gas station in this country. I wouldn't drink alcohol either, that will get you in a cave. I am trying to warn all of you because it will happen to some. I want all of you HOFers to remember how shitty it is to be dipping again and to go through the first few days and to have to make that decision. If you do come back to ktc, people will come after you and offer no compassion. I am here to quit for myself and to help others quit.
Krusty, have you ever caved? Slug.go, have you ever caved? Or are you guys perfect on your first quit? I know wastepanel's story. I am here to remind you all that you are all addicts and that you need to keep your fucking guard up.
No, letsgo, I have never caved while using KTC, started 299 days ago. I never really tried to quit in earnest before I got here, donÂ’t even remember if I had any stops in my 33 years of dipping. Since I got here, 100% quit and 100% roll. To preach you with less than those numbers would be hypocritical, does that answer your question?
You donÂ’t need to remind me what weakness looks like, i was once weak like you, but not any longer.
You want compassion? If I didnÂ’t give a tinkerÂ’s damn about you, I wouldnÂ’t have written a single thing about you. Compassion and pity are two distinct things, youÂ’ll never get my pity. Compassion? Look it up, thatÂ’s what this is. You might not like how itÂ’s worded, but thatÂ’s what this is.
And just why is it so hard to post roll every day? You live on Mars? You found a way to dip every day, didnÂ’t you?
Also, if you still have my phone #, delete it. I deleted yours when you chose not to answer my ‘where are you, man’ texts, trying to keep you from caving. If I want you to have it, I’ll re-send it when I choose to.
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.
He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.
But as you I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.
How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?
Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
I don't understand shit. It is fucking hard to post roll every damn day and to keep this going. I hope I am not wasting everyone's time. Here is some advice: do not cave! Nicotine is waiting for you at every gas station in this country. I wouldn't drink alcohol either, that will get you in a cave. I am trying to warn all of you because it will happen to some. I want all of you HOFers to remember how shitty it is to be dipping again and to go through the first few days and to have to make that decision. If you do come back to ktc, people will come after you and offer no compassion. I am here to quit for myself and to help others quit.
Krusty, have you ever caved? Slug.go, have you ever caved? Or are you guys perfect on your first quit? I know wastepanel's story. I am here to remind you all that you are all addicts and that you need to keep your fucking guard up.
No, letsgo, I have never caved while using KTC, started 299 days ago. I never really tried to quit in earnest before I got here, donÂ’t even remember if I had any stops in my 33 years of dipping. Since I got here, 100% quit and 100% roll. To preach you with less than those numbers would be hypocritical, does that answer your question?
You donÂ’t need to remind me what weakness looks like, i was once weak like you, but not any longer.
You want compassion? If I didnÂ’t give a tinkerÂ’s damn about you, I wouldnÂ’t have written a single thing about you. Compassion and pity are two distinct things, youÂ’ll never get my pity. Compassion? Look it up, thatÂ’s what this is. You might not like how itÂ’s worded, but thatÂ’s what this is.
And just why is it so hard to post roll every day? You live on Mars? You found a way to dip every day, didnÂ’t you?
Also, if you still have my phone #, delete it. I deleted yours when you chose not to answer my ‘where are you, man’ texts, trying to keep you from caving. If I want you to have it, I’ll re-send it when I choose to.
Unless you are in a biosphere bubble at the bottom of the Mariana Trence and have to tap into a shitty dial up line using a submersible for short high pressure dives, I find it difficult to believe it is any harder for you than anyone else that managers to be on roll every damn day.
FUCK EXCUSES. Either you ass is in with both feet in the water or you are just jerking yourself and the rest of us off.
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You PM'd me thanking me for my support in Feb '15. I don't recall specifically offering it to you, but I've also largely remained on the sidelines while your former quit brothers have held your feet to the fire for some sorely lacking accountability. That said, I think my response to you actually belongs here so that it cannot be erased or ignored.
Hi,
I'll be straight with you. My support for you is tepid at best right now. I've seen countless guys come back through that door after caving multiple times, only to disappoint once again. It's a certified cliché at this point. Based on what I've seen from you, you talk a big game, but once the sheer misery of the first few weeks wears off, it's the daily grind of being a +1 that ultimately does you in. Plus, you've said some things that really stick out at me, and not in a good way. You said you were getting into the quitting "zone" now. There is no zone. You are either quit or you are not. Then you said today that posting roll every day is hard. It isn't. It takes less than a minute to do and there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of us as 100% active posters to prove it. Frankly, that was one of the most personally insulting excuses I have ever read on this site. Posting is a privilege, not a chore, and it is something I take tremendous pride in doing first thing each day. To think of it in any terms other than that is disgraceful and a disservice to KTC.
I'm not trying to be harsh, but I just don't think you have the right mindset for this. Go ahead and give this thread a read: single/?p=8685610t=10254046 (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=8685610&t=10254046) Maybe there will be something that registers better for you.
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.
He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.
But as you I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.
How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?
Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
Then stop being a piece of shit and become a piece of quit.
Times a million.
Stop blaming your circumstances, and start taking responsibility.
I was sick of being a piece of shit too. When I came back in 2011, it was because my son came home and packed a can of beef jerky in front of me and my wife. I got a death look from her, and my heart fell from my chest. My boy was going to be just like me...
I didn't come back to sunshine and rainbows. I fucking fought hand in hand with my brothers until I earned respect. I had no right to demand it, and had to fucking tunnel vision my quit on occasion. It wasn't a walk in the park, but I had a good group of brothers beside me.
Honestly, man...fuck what we think about you. You can't change that. Worry about your quit first: get numbers. Use them. Help others. Stay quit. lead when you can and lean when you need to.
You can do this. That's the compassion you need. No excuses.
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Please stop formulating these well thought out lists of reasons you want to quit and just write down one, very manageable, and achievable reason like not wanting to die and quit once an for all. Don't look back and commit to you and a thousand basically invisible brothers that you will stay quit today then return tomorrow to do the same damn thing until you get it right.
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Please stop formulating these well thought out lists of reasons you want to quit and just write down one, very manageable, and achievable reason like not wanting to die and quit once an for all. Don't look back and commit to you and a thousand basically invisible brothers that you will stay quit today then return tomorrow to do the same damn thing until you get it right.
Yes, stop with the stupid fucking lists. They are meaningless. I have never struggled so hard to get through such simplistic crap. Because I kept wondering, "what the fuck is this guy talking about?". Just fucking quit! All this other crap is useless. But then I remembered, you can't quit, at least not here.I can see from reading the HOF and Hall of Legends that this does work
It works for people who give a shit, and have honor. It won't work for you.
If you gave a shit, you would be on here 24/7 until you had satisfied all the people asking things of you, instead, it seems to me like you've been a ghost, and then right above I see you arguing with Slug and Kruty? Are you kidding me?
Either submit to everything here, or GET THE FUCK OUT.
You seem like a real waste of time to me. 'Finger'
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Please stop formulating these well thought out lists of reasons you want to quit and just write down one, very manageable, and achievable reason like not wanting to die and quit once an for all. Don't look back and commit to you and a thousand basically invisible brothers that you will stay quit today then return tomorrow to do the same damn thing until you get it right.
Yes, stop with the stupid fucking lists. They are meaningless. I have never struggled so hard to get through such simplistic crap. Because I kept wondering, "what the fuck is this guy talking about?". Just fucking quit! All this other crap is useless. But then I remembered, you can't quit, at least not here.I can see from reading the HOF and Hall of Legends that this does work
It works for people who give a shit, and have honor. It won't work for you.
If you gave a shit, you would be on here 24/7 until you had satisfied all the people asking things of you, instead, it seems to me like you've been a ghost, and then right above I see you arguing with Slug and Kruty? Are you kidding me?
Either submit to everything here, or GET THE FUCK OUT.
You seem like a real waste of time to me. 'Finger'
You know, when you first came back I largely ignored you because I didn't remember you from Mayhem and I figured you were just another typical HAQ who pissed away an "attempt" and shit on your group. You wouldn't be the first. Now, I find out that not only are you a half-assed piece of shit, but you have caved at least three times. Not only that, I also hear you tried sneaking back in here like a fucking weasel acting like this was your first time. How fucking stupid do you think we all are? Then you go and talk shit to a couple of my brothers in May who are ten times the men you could ever be. Prepare yourself, because I am about to light you up like you deserve. And before you bring up "What would Jesus do?" or "Are you perfect?", let me get this out in the open so that you understand who you're dealing with. I was a caver. I was originally in the April 2013 group and made it almost 8 months before I caved. I came back here in February of this year and am a part of Mayhem '14. Notice how I said previously that I WAS a caver, because I am not that person anymore.
Now, where was I? You are such a cock sucker, moping around here for sympathy and "compassion." You deserve neither, because what you really need is a kick in the nuts. All I've heard from you since you've come back is a bunch of boo-hoo bullshit. Poor you, it's so hard to stay connected. It's so hard to post roll. It's so hard to not drift from the site. It's so hard to get to know your group. Well maybe if you gave a shit and made an actual effort it wouldn't be so fucking hard. You know what happened a couple weekends ago? The site was fucked up, and I had a new phone which I realized didn't have any quitters numbers in it, and being at deer camp I had no way to post roll. I felt like a pile of shit. You? Fuck, I doubt you would have even thought about posting roll in that situation. I'm sick and fucking tired of these lists and you saying how hard this is. The difference between me and you is that I pulled my head out of my ass and chose to quit instead of bitching and moaning and "trying."
Another thing. Quit with your fucking bitching for Christ's sake. Maybe instead of pissing and moaning you should think about all the people you have shit on by caving (x) number of times. You think that doesn't affect anyone when you consciously choose to go back on your word? It hurts everything this site stands for, you fuck. There is nothing hard about posting roll. There have been people aboard Navy ships who still manage to post roll, so we don't need to hear any bull shit from you. In fact, why are you even still here? All you've done is acted like some social pariah going around saying "Don't be like me! Stay strong! Don't cave!" If that's all you're going to do, why don't you just get the fuck out of here? Nobody should have to listen to your self-righteous bullshit.
I'm almost done, I promise. Fuck you. I admit I'm not perfect, I was a caver. But I realized where I went wrong, and I righted that ship in a big hurry. I still feel bad about shitting on my former group. If I could change it I would, but I'm in May now, and that's not changing. You might act like you know what you need to do, but all I hear from you is more caving bullshit. If you truly wanted to quit, posting roll wouldn't be hard. You are right about one thing. Fellow quitters, do not be like this fuck rag. He is a liar, a caver, a half-asser, and is not trustworthy in any way. Please see yourself to the door, Letscave.
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Please stop formulating these well thought out lists of reasons you want to quit and just write down one, very manageable, and achievable reason like not wanting to die and quit once an for all. Don't look back and commit to you and a thousand basically invisible brothers that you will stay quit today then return tomorrow to do the same damn thing until you get it right.
Yes, stop with the stupid fucking lists. They are meaningless. I have never struggled so hard to get through such simplistic crap. Because I kept wondering, "what the fuck is this guy talking about?". Just fucking quit! All this other crap is useless. But then I remembered, you can't quit, at least not here.I can see from reading the HOF and Hall of Legends that this does work
It works for people who give a shit, and have honor. It won't work for you.
If you gave a shit, you would be on here 24/7 until you had satisfied all the people asking things of you, instead, it seems to me like you've been a ghost, and then right above I see you arguing with Slug and Kruty? Are you kidding me?
Either submit to everything here, or GET THE FUCK OUT.
You seem like a real waste of time to me. 'Finger'
You know, when you first came back I largely ignored you because I didn't remember you from Mayhem and I figured you were just another typical HAQ who pissed away an "attempt" and shit on your group. You wouldn't be the first. Now, I find out that not only are you a half-assed piece of shit, but you have caved at least three times. Not only that, I also hear you tried sneaking back in here like a fucking weasel acting like this was your first time. How fucking stupid do you think we all are? Then you go and talk shit to a couple of my brothers in May who are ten times the men you could ever be. Prepare yourself, because I am about to light you up like you deserve. And before you bring up "What would Jesus do?" or "Are you perfect?", let me get this out in the open so that you understand who you're dealing with. I was a caver. I was originally in the April 2013 group and made it almost 8 months before I caved. I came back here in February of this year and am a part of Mayhem '14. Notice how I said previously that I WAS a caver, because I am not that person anymore.
Now, where was I? You are such a cock sucker, moping around here for sympathy and "compassion." You deserve neither, because what you really need is a kick in the nuts. All I've heard from you since you've come back is a bunch of boo-hoo bullshit. Poor you, it's so hard to stay connected. It's so hard to post roll. It's so hard to not drift from the site. It's so hard to get to know your group. Well maybe if you gave a shit and made an actual effort it wouldn't be so fucking hard. You know what happened a couple weekends ago? The site was fucked up, and I had a new phone which I realized didn't have any quitters numbers in it, and being at deer camp I had no way to post roll. I felt like a pile of shit. You? Fuck, I doubt you would have even thought about posting roll in that situation. I'm sick and fucking tired of these lists and you saying how hard this is. The difference between me and you is that I pulled my head out of my ass and chose to quit instead of bitching and moaning and "trying."
Another thing. Quit with your fucking bitching for Christ's sake. Maybe instead of pissing and moaning you should think about all the people you have shit on by caving (x) number of times. You think that doesn't affect anyone when you consciously choose to go back on your word? It hurts everything this site stands for, you fuck. There is nothing hard about posting roll. There have been people aboard Navy ships who still manage to post roll, so we don't need to hear any bull shit from you. In fact, why are you even still here? All you've done is acted like some social pariah going around saying "Don't be like me! Stay strong! Don't cave!" If that's all you're going to do, why don't you just get the fuck out of here? Nobody should have to listen to your self-righteous bullshit.
I'm almost done, I promise. Fuck you. I admit I'm not perfect, I was a caver. But I realized where I went wrong, and I righted that ship in a big hurry. I still feel bad about shitting on my former group. If I could change it I would, but I'm in May now, and that's not changing. You might act like you know what you need to do, but all I hear from you is more caving bullshit. If you truly wanted to quit, posting roll wouldn't be hard. You are right about one thing. Fellow quitters, do not be like this fuck rag. He is a liar, a caver, a half-asser, and is not trustworthy in any way. Please see yourself to the door, Letscave.
You say that you realize how the KTC methods work by reading HOF and hol speeches. Then you say posting roll is hard. I learned to post from my phone bc it was the easiest way for me to promise my brothers. I've posted 285/285 days. If you thought this place worked and u wanted to quit, you would find a way to post EDD.
You owe May 14 some heartfelt answers about your cave in May. It looks like you posted day 99 and then never came back. Must have woke up on 100 cured.....
You owe February some heartfelt answers for your cave on 11/12. Couldn't go a whole day? Spineless coward. Bet you love the person u see in the mirror.
You said u drank some beers at the world'a greatest bar, Applebee's, then stopped at a store, bought a can and started back. Why did you buy the can? Did you think about this site? Did any of your quit brothers come to mind? What went through your mind as you took the first pinch? What was that like? How did it feel? Did you drive yourself? Were you drunk? Do you normally drive drunk? Bottom line is the answers to these dont matter to me, but could save your life.
I suggest you fuck off. You don't get it. You're not ready for this. You are weak. You have no honor. You have no integrity. Your word means nothing. Either buy into this site, keep ur head down, build a web of accountability and quit or FUCK OFF.
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Well, LetsGo, you seem to want to teach people something about caving and quitting. What I learned from you was this I sure as shit don't want to be in your shoes ever.
pumps up quit there...that feels better...
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Give your god damn respect to your to be quit brethern. Post your three quality answers to them in roll, not hurried in your intro.
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0830 where you live and not on roll?
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Letsgo14, you posted Day 1 on 11/12 and 11/17? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Slug, you forgot Letscave's sacred rule number 12: "Failure is not an option, ever." Except, that is, the two (three? four? who knows?) other times that he's already failed. So that proclamation clearly holds water.
He has an admirable way of putting together lists and motivational self-help phrases that, at least in the past, inspired the masses with his hypothetical resolve, present company included.
But as you I can attest based on the countless texts and PMs that went ignored (presumably right around his latest cave), for as much as he claims to read innumerable pages of KTC and absorb valuable lessons, he doesn't understand shit.
How fucking hard is it to post roll every damn day, or use a phone number that's been offered to you to have someone do it for you?
Seriously Letscave: what is your fucking disconnect and why do you keep coming back to waste everyone's time?
I don't understand shit. It is fucking hard to post roll every damn day and to keep this going. I hope I am not wasting everyone's time. Here is some advice: do not cave! Nicotine is waiting for you at every gas station in this country. I wouldn't drink alcohol either, that will get you in a cave. I am trying to warn all of you because it will happen to some. I want all of you HOFers to remember how shitty it is to be dipping again and to go through the first few days and to have to make that decision. If you do come back to ktc, people will come after you and offer no compassion. I am here to quit for myself and to help others quit.
Krusty, have you ever caved? Slug.go, have you ever caved? Or are you guys perfect on your first quit? I know wastepanel's story. I am here to remind you all that you are all addicts and that you need to keep your fucking guard up.
Holy shit, you aren't here to remind me of shit and no one wants the advice of a loser. You fucking lucked into one of the best fucking quit groups on the site, and you still couldn't be fucking bothered. You're a douche, and this won't be your last new intro. When you prove something to someone, just one, on this entire site, then maybe you will have earned the right to spout some wisdom.
Like slug.go, I've never caved with the support of KTC. So fuck off with your misguided and self righteous preaching. This could be the single worst post I have ever seen in 300 days of quit
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I wanted compassion and an easy way to quit 230 days ago too, because what would Jesus do? Jesus led me here, where I got my ass kicked for using Lent as a method to quit. And after 30 days of being a hard-headed moron, I listened to what these quitters were telling me, and haven't looked back.
Your posts are screaming for help. You have to want to be quit more than anything right now. Your quit needs to consume you until it becomes who you are. It is scary as hell until it isn't.
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I wanted compassion and an easy way to quit 230 days ago too, because what would Jesus do? Jesus led me here, where I got my ass kicked for using Lent as a method to quit. And after 30 days of being a hard-headed moron, I listened to what these quitters were telling me, and haven't looked back.
Your posts are screaming for help. You have to want to be quit more than anything right now. Your quit needs to consume you until it becomes who you are. It is scary as hell until it isn't.
Damn Thumble. That was a great post. Too bad its wasted on this turd.
I was going to pile on, but the mushroom clouds in here make it clear that its not needed.
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I wanted compassion and an easy way to quit 230 days ago too, because what would Jesus do? Jesus led me here, where I got my ass kicked for using Lent as a method to quit. And after 30 days of being a hard-headed moron, I listened to what these quitters were telling me, and haven't looked back.
Your posts are screaming for help. You have to want to be quit more than anything right now. Your quit needs to consume you until it becomes who you are. It is scary as hell until it isn't.
Damn Thumble. That was a great post. Too bad its wasted on this turd.
I was going to pile on, but the mushroom clouds in here make it clear that its not needed.
My momma would always say mushroom clouds better that mushroom bruises.......maybe my words are wasted, maybe not. I was shown (again) what brotherhood means yesterday, so trying to pay some of it forward. We may get burned, but at least we tried.
Quitting is hard.
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We are still waiting for your real answers.
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We are still waiting for your real answers.
Did you take your ball and go home, Letscave?
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We are still waiting for your real answers.
Did you take your ball and go home, Letscave?
Inquiring minds want to know...
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We are still waiting for your real answers.
Did you take your ball and go home, Letscave?
Inquiring minds want to know...
I'm quitting one day at a time and that is your answer. I am tired of trying to explain myself in words. It doesn't work and I just get hammered by you guys. I am quitting for myself, posting roll with Feb 2015 each day, and am fighting for my life. My real answer comes each day that I'm quit.
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We are still waiting for your real answers.
Did you take your ball and go home, Letscave?
Inquiring minds want to know...
I'm quitting one day at a time and that is your answer. I am tired of trying to explain myself in words. It doesn't work and I just get hammered by you guys. I am quitting for myself, posting roll with Feb 2015 each day, and am fighting for my life. My real answer comes each day that I'm quit.
Then allow me to level set.
You are a 3 time caver. The last one was barely a week ago. Your word is as good as lawn fertilizer around here.
KTC is about support through accountability, not support through ball coddling and lists of quit mantras. If you want the latter, there are plenty of other homes for you, but KTC isn't one of them.
The fact is, the one being hardest on you should be you, but it isn't. It's clear you'd rather forgive and forget. That's not how it works.
Until you stop being a massive fucking pussy, stop making weak excuses, take a good long look in the mirror, and are ready to accept what you really are, this place has nothing to offer you.
Jesus, I've seen 5 year olds with more integrity than you.
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The following was written about you in your new group. Since you don't hang around after posting roll, I thought I would put it in your intro to make sure you read it. As you can see, there are more questions of you and the timing of your cave in may.
What happened, why did you fail us twice, and what are you going to do differently this time? Most importantly, do you want to be quit?
I've caved before. I was part of May 2014 and threw away a solid quit before reaching 100 days. I stopped by a bar after a long road trip by myself and had a few beers. To be honest, I just wanted a dip. I went to a convenience store, bought a can, and took a dip and then many dips. I didn't post roll that day and hadn't been posting for awhile. I also didn't reach out to any members of ktc via phone. The cave was in the making before that day because I drifted away from this site and stopped posting roll every day. I was back into a full blown addiction and it was far worse than before.
About 5 days before my quit, I posted a day 1 here in February 2015. I thought I could just post day 1 and like magic I would quit. That did not happen because I didn't put any effort into my quit. I didn't read or post on here and I just lasted a few hours and said fuck it, I can quit any time I want. Fortunately, I came back and posted in my introduction thread and I got my ass kicked by a lot of vets on ktc. Honestly, it hurt. I let down a lot of people and I didn't keep my word. I wasted another 6 months of my life being a slave to nicotine. $1000+ down the fucking hole. The hard asses in my introduction thread have motivated me to make this quit last for good. My integrity has been destroyed and people can't trust me.
This time, I am not going to miss a single day of roll call, no excuses. Yes, I want to be quit and I will demonstrate that by posting roll every day.
Honestly, what have you learned?
'Popcorn'
I've learned that posting roll every single day matters. I've learned that many members of ktc don't take this shit lightly (and they shouldn't) and that I abused this community before and I'm lucky to be coming back.
Did you cave on day 99? You said you caved before 100, but posted roll on 99.
search/?c=3mid=208805month=5year=2014 (http://forum.killthecan.org/search/?c=3&mid=208805&month=5&year=2014)
Edit: wrong link.
Why did it take you so long to post these answers?
Pretty sad that it took that long and this weak sauce is the best you got.
Letsgocave, look around at how caves are generally treated. You'll notice that the shit sandwich you ate and amount of harassment you received about not answering the questions was mild. It's because you meant so little to our group that nobody wants to waste their time on a lying loser that never bought into our group. Don't make the same mistake again.
So, lame answers and hazing aside... Nomore brings up a very important point.
Letsgo just claimed he caved prior to day 100. But he posted a day 99.
Nobody in the history of the world caves "just because" on day 99.
That roll post was a lie.
Poper gets the credit for that one, Lipi. He makes another great point too - If even you and I are ho-hum about this caver/haq, seems safe to say no one gives a shit. Let'sCave == HAQqani.
Hey guys. I am just a rookie, so I would never try and overstep my bounds with all of you vets. I respect you and what you are trying to do for me and the others here far too much. But I wanted to say that I didnt know LetsGo14 when you all did, and in an effort to be a part of this brotherhood, I reached out to him. I told him that I would be one to hold him accountable and responsible. I want to do my part for this forum to earn my place in it. I talk to him pretty regular, and will continue the fight. Thank you all for holding us to our work. It keeps me wanting to be quit everyday. I may only be 16 in, but I feel stronger than ever.
Bama: you feel stronger because you are. You are building a fortress of quit, one layer of accountability at a time.
We didn't know Letsgo14 either. That is part of why he caved. Be careful when you support known failures. They need the help but have a track record of shitting on their supporters. Be quick to cut the cord if he starts failing again.
16 days is awesome. You are winning! Keep up the good work!
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Congratulations on 300!
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Congratulations on One Year!!
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Congratulations on One Year!!
Way to go Letsgo! Congrats Brother.
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Congratulations on 400 days!
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Congratulations on 500 days!!!
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Congratulations on 600 days!
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Congratulations on 600 days!
Nice 600 Lets Go! Good solid quit you got going there!
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Congratulations on 700 days!
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Congratulations on 700 days!
What Kenny Said!!! Awesome job, brother!
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Congratulations on 2 years quit!
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Congratulations on 800 days!
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Congratulations on 800 days!
Way to Go..Letsgo!
Rawls 800
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Congratulations on 900 days!
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:
1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.
Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.
1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.
I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.
Thanks,
Tim
I dug this out of your what, 6 - 7 pages of excuse after excuse to show you why you failed, again, at 900. Tim, you have to understand that if you don't remain vigilant and use the tools this place provides, your addict brain will ALWAYS lead you back to caving. ALWAYS
I haven't looked yet to see if you posted your promise on the same day that you caved (any of those times). I sincerely hope that you didn't, because if you did, then we'd have to bring the whole concept of integrity up. I will go on record right here and tell you that if you don't have integrity, it almost certainly means that sooner or later, you're gonna fail again.
I'm not trying to be holier than thou....I'm trying to get you to pull your head out of your backside...
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:
1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.
Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.
1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.
I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.
Thanks,
Tim
I dug this out of your what, 6 - 7 pages of excuse after excuse to show you why you failed, again, at 900. Tim, you have to understand that if you don't remain vigilant and use the tools this place provides, your addict brain will ALWAYS lead you back to caving. ALWAYS
I haven't looked yet to see if you posted your promise on the same day that you caved (any of those times). I sincerely hope that you didn't, because if you did, then we'd have to bring the whole concept of integrity up. I will go on record right here and tell you that if you don't have integrity, it almost certainly means that sooner or later, you're gonna fail again.
I'm not trying to be holier than thou....I'm trying to get you to pull your head out of your backside...
Just as I suspected, you let the alcohol cloud your judgement to the point you let it get to your integrity. You posted 908 at 9:17 central yesterday. This morning at 2:18 central you posted your "this is so hard to write" BS.....
Quitting is HARD. You know that. It's damn near IMPOSSIBLE if you can't figure out a way to stop lying to your quit brothers and your self.
I also noted that you posted a day 99 on the 29th day of May, 2014 and then vanished off the face of KTC until November.... kind of makes me wonder if you ever got to 100 the first time.
Tim, you're gonna have to figure out a way to regain your honor or integrity. If you can't do that, I can't see you ever being successful in a quit. That may sound harsh, but it is the truth, near as I can reckon.
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:
1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.
Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.
1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.
I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.
Thanks,
Tim
I dug this out of your what, 6 - 7 pages of excuse after excuse to show you why you failed, again, at 900. Tim, you have to understand that if you don't remain vigilant and use the tools this place provides, your addict brain will ALWAYS lead you back to caving. [big][big][big][big][big]ALWAYS[/big][/big]
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I haven't looked yet to see if you posted your promise on the same day that you caved (any of those times). I sincerely hope that you didn't, because if you did, then we'd have to bring the whole concept of integrity up. I will go on record right here and tell you that if you don't have integrity, it almost certainly means that sooner or later, you're gonna fail again.
I'm not trying to be holier than thou....I'm trying to get you to pull your head out of your backside...
Just as I suspected, you let the alcohol cloud your judgement to the point you let it get to your integrity. You posted 908 at 9:17 central yesterday. This morning at 2:18 central you posted your "this is so hard to write" BS.....
Quitting is HARD. You know that. It's damn near IMPOSSIBLE if you can't figure out a way to stop lying to your quit brothers and your self.
I also noted that you posted a day 99 on the 29th day of May, 2014 and then vanished off the face of KTC until November.... kind of makes me wonder if you ever got to 100 the first time.
Tim, you're gonna have to figure out a way to regain your honor or integrity. If you can't do that, I can't see you ever being successful in a quit. That may sound harsh, but it is the truth, near as I can reckon.
And gone again...?