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Title: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 11, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
38, married, one son. 1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993. I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family. I love dip but I love them more. Working through the triggers will be hard.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: mich 34 on February 11, 2013, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
38, married, one son. 1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993. I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family. I love dip but I love them more. Working through the triggers will be hard.
It's going to get worse than hard but you can do it - we're here to help. You need to get over your "love" of dip - you're addicted you don't love it, you just think you do - once you hit the hof look back on this post and tell me what you think then!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: zam on February 11, 2013, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
38, married, one son. 1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993. I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family. I love dip but I love them more. Working through the triggers will be hard.
Well, I'll put this nicely: There is no such thing as quit for real. There is only quit. What ou may have done before is pause dipping for a while.

Also, until you rethink that "love to dip" thing, I'm not so confident you're not just taking a little break from dipping. Why would you want to quit something you love?

Read everything you can on this site, starting with the welcome center. Post questions, call me out for my comments, whatever.. just put some thought into what you really mean when you say you "love dip". No way a quit is gonna stick until you have a different answer to that question.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: jaynellie on February 11, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: adam1974
38, married, one son.  1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993.  I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family.  I love dip but I love them more.  Working through the triggers will be hard.
It's going to get worse than hard but you can do it - we're here to help. You need to get over your "love" of dip - you're addicted you don't love it, you just think you do - once you hit the hof look back on this post and tell me what you think then!
I agree it does get worse before it gets better. You don't "love" dip, the nic bitch "loves" you. She wants you to think what she wants you to think. Post roll everyday, Quit today and come back tomorrow and do the same, one day at a time. I'm glad you are here and proud to be quit with you today. PM me if you need anything, my numbers yours if you want it.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 11, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
38, married, one son. 1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993. I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family. I love dip but I love them more. Working through the triggers will be hard.
You love dip...did you fucking bump your head???

Do you make sweet love to your can of kodiak? Do you tuck it in at night and read it a bedtime story? Do you let it tongue jack your sack? Are you gonna buy it some candy and flowers Thursday for Valentines day?

Seriously, tell me what you love about it. Im curious to know. And if you love it so much why are you quitting? Because it can kill you and take you away from your family, who you love more? Why the fuck would you love something that could do that in the first place??!!

You don't love that shit bro. You're fucking addicted to it. Big difference. How do I know this? Because I used to go through 1-2 cans of kodiak, A DAY. I THOUGHT I loved it too when I quit. Bullshit. I fucking HATE IT and always did.

Gotta change your attitude bro. You believe you're giving up something pleasurable, or something you "love", you're in for a hell of a time. You're not giving up a God Damn thing. Nic solves nothing. It fills no voids, it creates them.

Stick with the program on this site. We will help you realize you don't love it and never did. If you're a man with some balls, in 100 days you will tell me I was right. If you're a pussy, we'll never hear from you again.

What's it gonna be, sport?
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Wt57 on February 12, 2013, 12:10:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: adam1974
38, married, one son.  1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993.  I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family.  I love dip but I love them more.  Working through the triggers will be hard.
You love dip...did you fucking bump your head???

Do you make sweet love to your can of kodiak? Do you tuck it in at night and read it a bedtime story? Do you let it tongue jack your sack? Are you gonna buy it some candy and flowers Thursday for Valentines day?

Seriously, tell me what you love about it. Im curious to know. And if you love it so much why are you quitting? Because it can kill you and take you away from your family, who you love more? Why the fuck would you love something that could do that in the first place??!!

You don't love that shit bro. You're fucking addicted to it. Big difference. How do I know this? Because I used to go through 1-2 cans of kodiak, A DAY. I THOUGHT I loved it too when I quit. Bullshit. I fucking HATE IT and always did.

Gotta change your attitude bro. You believe you're giving up something pleasurable, or something you "love", you're in for a hell of a time. You're not giving up a God Damn thing. Nic solves nothing. It fills no voids, it creates them.

Stick with the program on this site. We will help you realize you don't love it and never did. If you're a man with some balls, in 100 days you will tell me I was right. If you're a pussy, we'll never hear from you again.

What's it gonna be, sport?
Everything diesel says is true but it is his time of the month so I'm gonna side with you and bet that you stick around! Now prove me right! Pm me if I can be of assistance.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Dlee3 on February 12, 2013, 12:35:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: adam1974
38, married, one son.  1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993.  I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family.  I love dip but I love them more.  Working through the triggers will be hard.
You love dip...did you fucking bump your head???

Do you make sweet love to your can of kodiak? Do you tuck it in at night and read it a bedtime story? Do you let it tongue jack your sack? Are you gonna buy it some candy and flowers Thursday for Valentines day?

Seriously, tell me what you love about it. Im curious to know. And if you love it so much why are you quitting? Because it can kill you and take you away from your family, who you love more? Why the fuck would you love something that could do that in the first place??!!

You don't love that shit bro. You're fucking addicted to it. Big difference. How do I know this? Because I used to go through 1-2 cans of kodiak, A DAY. I THOUGHT I loved it too when I quit. Bullshit. I fucking HATE IT and always did.

Gotta change your attitude bro. You believe you're giving up something pleasurable, or something you "love", you're in for a hell of a time. You're not giving up a God Damn thing. Nic solves nothing. It fills no voids, it creates them.

Stick with the program on this site. We will help you realize you don't love it and never did. If you're a man with some balls, in 100 days you will tell me I was right. If you're a pussy, we'll never hear from you again.

What's it gonna be, sport?
There are KTC rants that I love and there are those that I love but really freaking hit close to home. There are times (almost daily) that I remember the "love" I had for dip, and then somebody like Diesel or Loot or Fuel or Evil or WT or some brilliant vet (they all are) reminds me how much I hated the first time each day that I thought, "Hell, yeah, I'm going to love my life even more once I have a cancerous tobacco wad in my lip." I am as addicted as an addict can be, Adam, and I'm going to hit 30 days in a couple more roll calls. Don't think of it as hard, think of it as doable. I never thought it was, and I'm doing it. Carolina is playing Duke in a couple of nights and I'm going to watch the entire game without a dip. I will WANT to sit on my couch and pop one in, but I WON'T. What in the hell am I accomplishing with a dip anyway? GO HEELS!!!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Cyclops on February 12, 2013, 12:44:00 AM
Quote from: adam1974
38, married, one son. 1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993. I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family. I love dip but I love them more. Working through the triggers will be hard.
Bro, I'm 32 married with one son as well. Dipping since 1996. I love my wife and my son and I missed enough time with them just to sneak around and dip. 98 days quit today and my life with my family is the most fullfilling it has ever been for all of us. Quitting dip is awesome! You will love the quality time you gain with your family without worrying about your next fix. Stay strong Bro.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 12, 2013, 01:15:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: adam1974
38, married, one son.  1-2 tins of Kodiak a week since 1993.  I quit today for real; want to make sure I am around for my family.  I love dip but I love them more.  Working through the triggers will be hard.
You love dip...did you fucking bump your head???

Do you make sweet love to your can of kodiak? Do you tuck it in at night and read it a bedtime story? Do you let it tongue jack your sack? Are you gonna buy it some candy and flowers Thursday for Valentines day?

Seriously, tell me what you love about it. Im curious to know. And if you love it so much why are you quitting? Because it can kill you and take you away from your family, who you love more? Why the fuck would you love something that could do that in the first place??!!

You don't love that shit bro. You're fucking addicted to it. Big difference. How do I know this? Because I used to go through 1-2 cans of kodiak, A DAY. I THOUGHT I loved it too when I quit. Bullshit. I fucking HATE IT and always did.

Gotta change your attitude bro. You believe you're giving up something pleasurable, or something you "love", you're in for a hell of a time. You're not giving up a God Damn thing. Nic solves nothing. It fills no voids, it creates them.

Stick with the program on this site. We will help you realize you don't love it and never did. If you're a man with some balls, in 100 days you will tell me I was right. If you're a pussy, we'll never hear from you again.

What's it gonna be, sport?
Everything diesel says is true but it is his time of the month so I'm gonna side with you and bet that you stick around! Now prove me right! Pm me if I can be of assistance.
It must be my time of month. Very bitchy today. NOW GIVE ME SOME CHOCOLATE!!!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: KC Bronco on February 12, 2013, 09:49:00 AM
I'm 39 years old.....8 year old boy and 5 year old girl....and I'm one nicotine addicted degenerate. I chewed a can a day for 23 years. However I am now 74 days QUIT.

I would have never made it 74 days without this group. Guys like Diesel2112 helped me. I like the in your face...shut the fuck up and QUIT shit. There is none of this "I hope I can Quit...I'm going to try" here. Cold turkey....Old School QUIT!

You can do it. Trust me...If I can quit. YOU can too. Just don't put any nicotine in your body for the day. Post roll the next day and do it all over again.

You will feel great about yourself I promise. Do it NOW!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 12, 2013, 03:28:00 PM
You are all right; I don't love dip. I am just very very used to it. Day 2 isn't bad at all. I have a week of triggers ahead of me though.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 12, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
You are all right; I don't love dip. I am just very very used to it. Day 2 isn't bad at all. I have a week of triggers ahead of me though.
Good man.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 14, 2013, 01:01:00 PM
Day 4. Had the biggest test last night - Wednesday is hanging with the guys. Drinking, no dip, some sunflower seeds - no problem. I think my firm decision to quit is stronger than this. I'm pretty happy!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: SirDerek on February 14, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
Day 4. Had the biggest test last night - Wednesday is hanging with the guys. Drinking, no dip, some sunflower seeds - no problem. I think my firm decision to quit is stronger than this. I'm pretty happy!
well done as you have a victory but be careful with the drinking as it lowers the inhibitions and has ruined quite a few quits.

you got this
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: jhaenel23 on February 14, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
Day 4. Had the biggest test last night - Wednesday is hanging with the guys. Drinking, no dip, some sunflower seeds - no problem. I think my firm decision to quit is stronger than this. I'm pretty happy!
Thats what I like to hear!! It is good to take on things that are part of your normal day to day but heed our advice. Drinking will fuck up a solid quit faster than anything! I drank on day 2 and day 10 and they were the biggest mistakes I made. Next day was like I was back in the suck!! I didnt feel safe having a few beers till after day 25. Especially if is with a group of your boys that all chew etc etc......Drinky with caution!!


I quit with you bro!!


J
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 15, 2013, 09:19:00 AM
Quote from: jhaenel23
Quote from: adam1974
Day 4.  Had the biggest test last night - Wednesday is hanging with the guys.  Drinking, no dip, some sunflower seeds - no problem.  I think my firm decision to quit is stronger than this.  I'm pretty happy!
Thats what I like to hear!! It is good to take on things that are part of your normal day to day but heed our advice. Drinking will fuck up a solid quit faster than anything! I drank on day 2 and day 10 and they were the biggest mistakes I made. Next day was like I was back in the suck!! I didnt feel safe having a few beers till after day 25. Especially if is with a group of your boys that all chew etc etc......Drinky with caution!!


I quit with you bro!!


J
Hahahaha thanks guys, but giving up drinking at the same time as giving up Kodiak? Not happening. It's OK though - not a problem. I have never felt this strongly - the idea of slipping back into an old habit with such horrible consequences makes me ill. It is like I have been hypnotized somehow... seriously!

I have made my decision and it's great. Day 5.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: redtrain14 on February 15, 2013, 09:31:00 AM
I didn't take the back off on the booze advice early in my quit. About 4.5 years later I finally quit replacing one fix with another. I regret that decision. Just something for you to consider.

If you post roll, dip is off the table for the day no matter what....period, the end.

I won't be the guy to lecture about quitting and drinking but I will bust your ass if you post a day 1 after a night of dudes and wine coolers.

Know what I mean?
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: sdh23 on February 15, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
Quote from: adam1974
Quote from: jhaenel23
Quote from: adam1974
Day 4.  Had the biggest test last night - Wednesday is hanging with the guys.  Drinking, no dip, some sunflower seeds - no problem.  I think my firm decision to quit is stronger than this.  I'm pretty happy!
Thats what I like to hear!! It is good to take on things that are part of your normal day to day but heed our advice. Drinking will fuck up a solid quit faster than anything! I drank on day 2 and day 10 and they were the biggest mistakes I made. Next day was like I was back in the suck!! I didnt feel safe having a few beers till after day 25. Especially if is with a group of your boys that all chew etc etc......Drinky with caution!!


I quit with you bro!!


J
Hahahaha thanks guys, but giving up drinking at the same time as giving up Kodiak? Not happening. It's OK though - not a problem. I have never felt this strongly - the idea of slipping back into an old habit with such horrible consequences makes me ill. It is like I have been hypnotized somehow... seriously!

I have made my decision and it's great. Day 5.
Adam,

It's just my two cents, but I think you are playing with fire. Quitting is not easy and everybody knows that. For the majority of the people here, it takes a total focus to stay quit and a lot of people caved because of drinking early in their quit. In my mind, it's a small sacrifice to reinforce your quit. If you are going to keep drinking early in your quit, make sure you have a plan for when that nic bitch comes calling. I can guarantee that she will come knocking on your door at your weakest point of the night.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: CoachDoc on February 15, 2013, 10:14:00 AM
Quote from: adam1974
Hahahaha thanks guys, but giving up drinking at the same time as giving up Kodiak? Not happening.
Read what you posted, Adam. I bet those same words came out of your mouth regarding dip at some point or another, too.

Controlling desires, habits, impulses....addictions....is tough. made tougher when you have things changing the way your mind works.

You have a lot of people here giving you advice. Listen to what they are saying. Hear them and not the whispers from the nic and alcohol spirits....
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 15, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
Thanks for looking out for me guys, definitely. My big hanging out drinking day is Wednesday, and it went awesome. My friends will not offer me dip, and if I were to break down and ask for one, they will make me feel like shit (rightfully so.)

There will be not be a second Day 1. I am already too proud of myself.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 16, 2013, 12:04:00 AM
I bought some Hooch herbal fake dip because of the amount of sunflower seeds I was eating; the salt was too much and the extra calories aren't helping. Part of me feels that fake dip is cheating, but then I think: I could legitimately do this fake stuff FOREVER and not get cancer and die.

And then I realize that Day 5 isn't the day that the mental cravings and triggers stop. And it's OK to do fake dip, because for me it's working just fine. And in time, the oral fixation will stop. In the meantime, I'm putting broccoli or whatever this shit is made from in my mouth.

Still hiding it, of course, from my wife. She thinks I quit years ago. That sucks, but one thing at a time. I'm laughing at myself for hiding fake dip from my wife, and I'm embarassed that I have hid something from my wife for this long. What a dick.

I find myself coming to this forum several times a day; this is my favorite section because everyone posting here is in the same early stages, and it's all so familiar.

The best thing I read so far was Diesel's story in Aaron's thread about the windshield washer bottle. Oh man, thanks for that!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 16, 2013, 02:30:00 AM
Quote from: adam1974
I bought some Hooch herbal fake dip because of the amount of sunflower seeds I was eating; the salt was too much and the extra calories aren't helping. Part of me feels that fake dip is cheating, but then I think: I could legitimately do this fake stuff FOREVER and not get cancer and die.

And then I realize that Day 5 isn't the day that the mental cravings and triggers stop. And it's OK to do fake dip, because for me it's working just fine. And in time, the oral fixation will stop. In the meantime, I'm putting broccoli or whatever this shit is made from in my mouth.

Still hiding it, of course, from my wife. She thinks I quit years ago. That sucks, but one thing at a time. I'm laughing at myself for hiding fake dip from my wife, and I'm embarassed that I have hid something from my wife for this long. What a dick.

I find myself coming to this forum several times a day; this is my favorite section because everyone posting here is in the same early stages, and it's all so familiar.

The best thing I read so far was Diesel's story in Aaron's thread about the windshield washer bottle. Oh man, thanks for that!
Always glad I can provide comic relief for others. LOL.

Sounds like you're on the right track! Keep up the good work!!!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Kubrick on February 16, 2013, 09:57:00 AM
Quote from: adam1974
I bought some Hooch herbal fake dip because of the amount of sunflower seeds I was eating; the salt was too much and the extra calories aren't helping. Part of me feels that fake dip is cheating, but then I think: I could legitimately do this fake stuff FOREVER and not get cancer and die.

And then I realize that Day 5 isn't the day that the mental cravings and triggers stop. And it's OK to do fake dip, because for me it's working just fine. And in time, the oral fixation will stop. In the meantime, I'm putting broccoli or whatever this shit is made from in my mouth.

Still hiding it, of course, from my wife. She thinks I quit years ago. That sucks, but one thing at a time. I'm laughing at myself for hiding fake dip from my wife, and I'm embarassed that I have hid something from my wife for this long. What a dick.

I find myself coming to this forum several times a day; this is my favorite section because everyone posting here is in the same early stages, and it's all so familiar.

The best thing I read so far was Diesel's story in Aaron's thread about the windshield washer bottle. Oh man, thanks for that!
They don't disappear completely on day 330 either 'bang head'

I still pop a hooch dip in probably once a day. Nothing cheating about it. I am nic free and have been for 330 days. Put whatever you need to in your mouth to keep the nicotine out of it.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 16, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: Kubrick

They don't disappear completely on day 330 either 'bang head'

I still pop a hooch dip in probably once a day. Nothing cheating about it. I am nic free and have been for 330 days. Put whatever you need to in your mouth to keep the nicotine out of it.
Good to know! I had an extraordinarily hard time reading your post though, what with your avatar pic.

You are one good lookin lady Kubrick!! :lol:
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Coach Steve on February 17, 2013, 09:43:00 AM
Quote from: adam1974
Quote from: Kubrick

They don't disappear completely on day 330 either  'bang head'

I still pop a hooch dip in probably once a day. Nothing cheating about it. I am nic free and have been for 330 days. Put whatever you need to in your mouth to keep the nicotine out of it.
Good to know! I had an extraordinarily hard time reading your post though, what with your avatar pic.

You are one good lookin lady Kubrick!! :lol:
Something I find quite interesting is how we as addicts can shove cancer laced turds in our mouth for years and think nothing of it. Yet when we quit and start using fake dip, we begin analyzing the benefits and detriments of a non-carcinogenic ground up plant with sugar flavoring. I did the same thing. Just funny how that works....

The moral of the story is to keep shoving that fake dip in your pie hole if it keeps you quit.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Souliman on February 17, 2013, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: adam1974
Quote from: Kubrick

They don't disappear completely on day 330 either  'bang head'

I still pop a hooch dip in probably once a day. Nothing cheating about it. I am nic free and have been for 330 days. Put whatever you need to in your mouth to keep the nicotine out of it.
Good to know! I had an extraordinarily hard time reading your post though, what with your avatar pic.

You are one good lookin lady Kubrick!! :lol:
Something I find quite interesting is how we as addicts can shove cancer laced turds in our mouth for years and think nothing of it. Yet when we quit and start using fake dip, we begin analyzing the benefits and detriments of a non-carcinogenic ground up plant with sugar flavoring. I did the same thing. Just funny how that works....

The moral of the story is to keep shoving that fake dip in your pie hole if it keeps you quit.
Coach talking bible here folks. Listen to him:

"The moral of the story is to keep shoving that fake dip in your pie hole if it keeps you quit."
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 17, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: Coach
Something I find quite interesting is how we as addicts can shove cancer laced turds in our mouth for years and think nothing of it. Yet when we quit and start using fake dip, we begin analyzing the benefits and detriments of a non-carcinogenic ground up plant with sugar flavoring. I did the same thing. Just funny how that works....

The moral of the story is to keep shoving that fake dip in your pie hole if it keeps you quit.
Right? It's like eating broccoli or something. But I'm still 'dipping'; I'm just 'dipping' some ground up non tobacco substitute. Which won't cause cancer.

Anyway, that one fake dip a day is making this really easy. I'm really happy. Thanks everyone! I highly doubt that I would feel this good without this forum.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Wt57 on February 17, 2013, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
Quote from: Coach
Something I find quite interesting is how we as addicts can shove cancer laced turds in our mouth for years and think nothing of it. Yet when we quit and start using fake dip, we begin analyzing the benefits and detriments of a non-carcinogenic ground up plant with sugar flavoring. I did the same thing. Just funny how that works....

The moral of the story is to keep shoving that fake dip in your pie hole if it keeps you quit.
Right? It's like eating broccoli or something. But I'm still 'dipping'; I'm just 'dipping' some ground up non tobacco substitute. Which won't cause cancer.

Anyway, that one fake dip a day is making this really easy. I'm really happy. Thanks everyone! I highly doubt that I would feel this good without this forum.
My experience with fake dip was like a substitute love affair. It didn't fill all my needs or wants but it wasn't bad. The first few weeks of my separation from Copenhagen I couldn't get enough, tried every alternative. Finally I settled on a satisfying regular (smokey mountain wintergreen). I dipped the shit out of it. I indulged in it every bit as much as I had my long time lover. By about day 80 or 90 I started getting bored with it and started missing days. Then one day came that I realized I hadn't visited my substitute for over a week, then a month and I almost forgot where I left it (that would have never happened with the real thing, if it did I was frantic). I had a drawer with quite an assortment, one day I cleaned house and threw all but 1 can of smokey mountain out. I haven't checked for months now if its still there. I'm sure it is if I were to crave but I haven't, at least not bad enough to dig it out of hiding.
Adam, as long as you post roll and keep your promise the quit tools become sharper and you become more efficient in there use. I like comparing the tools to a 'straight razor'. Soon you will have learned to use that strop to maintain the sharpest edge and you will soon become proficient at getting the smoothest shave with no nicks! Quit on.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on February 19, 2013, 08:08:00 PM
Fuck; Day 9 today and I was in a client meeting just totally spaced out. First 'fog' episode. It sucked. However, the good news is my first thought was not 'I need a dip'. It was 'that what those guys on KTC were talking about... '

Thanks for the mental prep. I had a diet soda instead. It was delightful.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 19, 2013, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
Fuck; Day 9 today and I was in a client meeting just totally spaced out. First 'fog' episode. It sucked. However, the good news is my first thought was not 'I need a dip'. It was 'that what those guys on KTC were talking about... '

Thanks for the mental prep. I had a diet soda instead. It was delightful.
Nice victory man. I know exactly how you feel. I remember that exact shit during the 1st week or so. I really shouldnt have been driving a car. Keep it up man. Your winning!! 1 day at a time.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: matthewb51 on February 19, 2013, 10:37:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen



Nice victory man. I know exactly how you feel. I remember that exact shit during the 1st week or so. I really shouldnt have been driving a car. Keep it up man. Your winning!! 1 day at a time.
Quote from: adam1974
Fuck; Day 9 today and I was in a client meeting just totally spaced out.  First 'fog' episode.  It sucked.  However, the good news is my first thought was not 'I need a dip'.  It was 'that what those guys on KTC were talking about... 'Thanks for the mental prep.  I had a diet soda instead.  It was delightful.
I know exactly how you feel man, you and I are on the same days. Nice victory today. Keep it up bud. Glad to be quit with you!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on March 03, 2013, 12:37:00 AM
Day 21. It's all coming together.

I find that the things that got me through days 5-today (Hooch Fake Dip) are starting to draw me less. That's cool. I mean, I have a fat Hooch Wintergreen in right now, but I'm probably down to two a day.

I have been drinking with my friends many times, and never has the urge even hit me to put something in besides seeds or a Hooch. My dip friends have been trying the Hooch variety pack, and I think that the knowledge that something so close to the real thing exists is pushing them to the quit. My brother as well.

I'm past the point in my life of getting supremely drunk, so I'm not worried about waking up with a tin. I can enjoy drinks with the guys. They wouldn't let me dip anyways. But it doesn't come up. I am committed, and decided. It's a wonderful Zen feeling. I understand that it's one day at a time, and I can see that I'll have many one days in a row, because I'm really, really, really quit in my mind. I'm very happy and want to thank everyone here for getting me to the three week point.

Posting roll every day and will check back in here when it makes sense.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Tool shed on March 03, 2013, 08:22:00 AM
Quote from: adam1974
Day 21. It's all coming together.

I find that the things that got me through days 5-today (Hooch Fake Dip) are starting to draw me less. That's cool. I mean, I have a fat Hooch Wintergreen in right now, but I'm probably down to two a day.

I have been drinking with my friends many times, and never has the urge even hit me to put something in besides seeds or a Hooch. My dip friends have been trying the Hooch variety pack, and I think that the knowledge that something so close to the real thing exists is pushing them to the quit. My brother as well.

I'm past the point in my life of getting supremely drunk, so I'm not worried about waking up with a tin. I can enjoy drinks with the guys. They wouldn't let me dip anyways. But it doesn't come up. I am committed, and decided. It's a wonderful Zen feeling. I understand that it's one day at a time, and I can see that I'll have many one days in a row, because I'm really, really, really quit in my mind. I'm very happy and want to thank everyone here for getting me to the three week point.

Posting roll every day and will check back in here when it makes sense.
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Liberty, glad to see you are hanging in there.  No one ever said it was easy, but we all agree it is worth it.  Keep it up man.  You have my number, reach out anytime if you need anything.
Keep fighting brother.
Still going. Does everyone else have times of the day that are your hardest? For me my hardest times are after lunch and dinner as well as close before I go to bed. But like said, still doing it. Hooch is used at those times. Guess those three cravings a day are good for someone who used to have nasty crap in my mouth almost all the time with the exception of when I ate and slept.

Day 21 here as well and i agree, I feels a bit better everyday. Very nice work and let's be sure and help out those in the more troubling early stages, commit each day, and remember that even when we feel good a crave can hit and we need to be strong.

Tool Shed
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on March 12, 2013, 09:59:00 AM
Day 30! Who would have thought...

My use of Fake Dip is decreasing as well. I just bought my brother 6 tins of Hooch Wintergreen, and told him about this place. He was reluctant at first but I think he'll be joining.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: kkljinc on March 12, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: adam1974
Day 30! Who would have thought...

My use of Fake Dip is decreasing as well. I just bought my brother 6 tins of Hooch Wintergreen, and told him about this place. He was reluctant at first but I think he'll be joining.
Rock on!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: Radman on March 12, 2013, 11:04:00 AM
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Quote from: adam1974
Day 30!  Who would have thought...

My use of Fake Dip is decreasing as well.  I just bought my brother 6 tins of Hooch Wintergreen, and told him about this place.  He was reluctant at first but I think he'll be joining.
Rock on!!!!!!!
Badass! Paying it forward - that's how we roll.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on March 15, 2013, 11:49:00 PM
Day 33:

Sitting in a meeting today and the guy next to me is chomping a wintergreen life saver. The smell made me instinctively look to see if I knocked over my spitter. Then I had a massive crave... for the first time.

It surprised me, because it has been over a month and I haven't had any real craves.

Well, 33 days down. I'm proud (very proud.) My pride in this is my main motivator right now. That, and living to age 106. You see, I was too young to fully enjoy the 70's the first time...
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: jaynellie on March 16, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
That's awesome brother. May group is kicking ass and I'm proud to be part of this with you. Keep kicking her ass and keeping your word. NAFAR!!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on March 25, 2013, 12:02:00 PM
Day 43. Going well for the most part; starting to scale down on the Hooch. It's just not that much of a draw anymore. Some days I don't have any.

I was on the way to work today, when I had this strong desire for some Kodiak. Being in a traffic jam on a highway, I was in no danger, so I allowed myself to think about it. What was it that I was missing and craving? The taste? The burn? The mildest of stimulation? I couldn't figure it out.

I ended up laughing at myself. It was a great moment.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: kkljinc on March 25, 2013, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
Day 43. Going well for the most part; starting to scale down on the Hooch. It's just not that much of a draw anymore. Some days I don't have any.

I was on the way to work today, when I had this strong desire for some Kodiak. Being in a traffic jam on a highway, I was in no danger, so I allowed myself to think about it. What was it that I was missing and craving? The taste? The burn? The mildest of stimulation? I couldn't figure it out.

I ended up laughing at myself. It was a great moment.
I am still waiting for my ah-ha moments but I know they will come. Proud to quit with you today!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on April 09, 2013, 10:16:00 PM
So, after 58 days, even though I dipped Kodiak for 20 years, I don't think I can remember exactly what it tasted like. And here's how I know.

I ran out of Hooch (I have some cherry somewhere, but that tastes like a cupcake.) I haven't been using it much anyway. My new sunflower seed addiction is threatening to seize up my arteries though.

I stopped in at Walmart to get some Smokey Mountain, just to have. And I had one on the way home.

Holy fuck, it's just like Kodiak... at least as far as I can remember. Close enough that I feel like I'm cheating!

I have one in now and I swear I can feel a buzz.

Anyway, just wanted to have some fake dip on hand to combat the craves and cut down on my 90000mg of sodium a day the seeds are giving me.

Love,
Adam
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: robbie on April 09, 2013, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
So, after 58 days, even though I dipped Kodiak for 20 years, I don't think I can remember exactly what it tasted like. And here's how I know.

I ran out of Hooch (I have some cherry somewhere, but that tastes like a cupcake.) I haven't been using it much anyway. My new sunflower seed addiction is threatening to seize up my arteries though.

I stopped in at Walmart to get some Smokey Mountain, just to have. And I had one on the way home.

Holy fuck, it's just like Kodiak... at least as far as I can remember. Close enough that I feel like I'm cheating!

I have one in now and I swear I can feel a buzz.

Anyway, just wanted to have some fake dip on hand to combat the craves and cut down on my 90000mg of sodium a day the seeds are giving me.

Love,
Adam
I bought Golden Eagle a week or so back --first fake stuff since my quite. It's ok but the consistency is not quite there--also its too sweet. I chewed Skoal Straight looking for something closer

You recommend Smokey Mountain Straight? I've also heard a lot about Hooch--what do you recommend as best fake stuff?

By the way --seeds and fake shit--cheat on that stuff all you want. Keep Grinding it out one day at a time
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on April 09, 2013, 11:45:00 PM
Quote from: robbie
Quote from: adam1974
So, after 58 days, even though I dipped Kodiak for 20 years, I don't think I can remember exactly what it tasted like.  And here's how I know.

I ran out of Hooch (I have some cherry somewhere, but that tastes like a cupcake.)  I haven't been using it much anyway.  My new sunflower seed addiction is threatening to seize up my arteries though.

I stopped in at Walmart to get some Smokey Mountain, just to have.  And I had one on the way home.

Holy fuck, it's just like Kodiak...  at least as far as I can remember.  Close enough that I feel like I'm cheating!

I have one in now and I swear I can feel a buzz.

Anyway, just wanted to have some fake dip on hand to combat the craves and cut down on my 90000mg of sodium a day the seeds are giving me.

Love,
Adam
I bought Golden Eagle a week or so back --first fake stuff since my quite. It's ok but the consistency is not quite there--also its too sweet. I chewed Skoal Straight looking for something closer

You recommend Smokey Mountain Straight? I've also heard a lot about Hooch--what do you recommend as best fake stuff?

By the way --seeds and fake shit--cheat on that stuff all you want. Keep Grinding it out one day at a time
Hooch is finer cut, but the Classic flavor to me tasted like Straight. The only Smokey Mountain I have tried is the Wintergreen. I have one in now and I swear it's real dip. It burns, it's long cut, the wintergreen/tobacco flavors are there.
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: adam1974 on May 05, 2013, 08:42:00 PM
Day 84. My ability to change this part of my life has improved something within me, other than the obvious lip and gum health. My pride in being able to face and handle something that enslaved me for 20 years is extending to other portions of my life.

Now that I am steady in my quit, with my triggers taken care of, and the craves at a manageable level, I'm successfully working on exercise and calorie counting. Being smart about what I eat, not only in a nutrition sense, but in a natural sense. Avoiding chemicals wherever possible. Eating organic vegetables as much as possible. Buying meat and poultry that hasn't been loaded with antibiotics.

I know for a fact that Killing the Can was the first step in a much healthier Adam. Thanks to all for the support thusfar. Keep on being quit!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: robbie on May 06, 2013, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: adam1974
Day 84. My ability to change this part of my life has improved something within me, other than the obvious lip and gum health. My pride in being able to face and handle something that enslaved me for 20 years is extending to other portions of my life.

Now that I am steady in my quit, with my triggers taken care of, and the craves at a manageable level, I'm successfully working on exercise and calorie counting. Being smart about what I eat, not only in a nutrition sense, but in a natural sense. Avoiding chemicals wherever possible. Eating organic vegetables as much as possible. Buying meat and poultry that hasn't been loaded with antibiotics.

I know for a fact that Killing the Can was the first step in a much healthier Adam. Thanks to all for the support thusfar. Keep on being quit!
Keep on Keeping on quit brother!
Title: Re: Quitting for real this time
Post by: worktowin on November 07, 2015, 07:43:00 AM
Congratulations on hitting 1,000 today, brother!!!