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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: GoboMaster007 on April 21, 2010, 11:04:00 PM
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Hello everyone,
I don't know if this is where I post this but I just wanted to introduce myself.
My name is Justin and I am a 21 1/2 year old college student in Kenosha, WI at University of Wisconsin-Parkside. I have been dipping since I turned 18. I used Skoal Edge normally but sometimes Grizzly Wintergreen. I decided it was time to stop dipping when I had to schedule my classes and my jobs around getting enough nic in a day and was hiding it from my family and girlfriend. I kept trying for the past year to quit cold turkey but I never could do it because the increase in anxiety levels was just too much for me. Now I am using Hooch and Young's Chew for the titration method. This week thus far I am at 25% Young's and 75% Skoal. I hope to be on 100% Herbal within 4 weeks. That's my plan....so I guess that's about it, although I would appreciate any words of advice or encouragement!
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Well welcome to the site. By cutting back all you are doing is dragging the withdrwals out. Dump your real stuff and lets get to quitting.
The first three days are all it takes to get the NIC out of your body, after that you are just fighting the habit. Get some seeds, gum, fake and get ready. I dipped a can a day for 23 years, posted my promise on here dumped my can and have never looked back.
I just wish I had been smart enought to quit at your age. Stop dragging it out, dump your can, post your promise and lets get this going.
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yea i know...the only reason I am not is owing to the fact that I have anxiety issues already( im on Lexapro for anxiety attacks and depression) Im kinda freaked out. and i have exams next week and the following. I know that it may sound like a cop out reason but Im just afraid that my anxieties would get the best of me and then I would fail some exams.....
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So Im sitting here(honestly doing a paper for school..yay.....) and I've just decided that tomorrow will be day 1! I'm done with this shit. I'm done waking up early to do a lip and everything else that goes with it. So here goes....I wake up at 7.30AM so about 8 hrs til go.....I figure if all these people on here who some have a lot more of a life than me can do it and deal with the anxieties, so can I!
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Excellent decision! We don't mess around here, so no nic means no nic. Period. Dump it all and don't look back.
I used to always be waiting for a more ideal time to quit, but it never came. 20+ years later here I am finally getting it done, and I guarantee I've got more stressful junk going on in my life right now than many other times I passed up the opportunity. Do it now. It will never get easier by waiting.
Read everything you can here, stay close to the site, post your promise tomorrow not to use nic every morning, and be a man of your word. Repeat daily. As many have said before me, not easy, but simple.
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hey so im going to bed soon but tomorrow when i wake ill post my promise and do "roll" but can someone help me find the post about how to do that? i found it earlier today but cant remember where. See you all in the morning!(or noon, no classes tomorrow!!)
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hey so im going to bed soon but tomorrow when i wake ill post my promise and do "roll" but can someone help me find the post about how to do that? i found it earlier today but cant remember where. See you all in the morning!(or noon, no classes tomorrow!!)
distructshuns for posting are here (http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp#roll). -- if you clicky on the under lined werd inter tubes majic happins.
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Here is also a link to the July class.
July HOF Class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3227)
I had Anxiety problems also. I found working out daily and mediation helped with that a TON. Try to get your heart rate up for 30-45 minutes a day. Kills craves, kills anxiety, and it will also help you sleep which will be difficult while you detox.
READ everything you can on this site. It helps keep the mind busy and it also helps you see whats coming. Get your mind right and you can do this....
Remember we do not TRY here... we DO !!
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ok so i posted rol, i believe...could some1 check it for me to make sure i did it correctly. the mind is kinda slow today. man...took me like an extra hour to get up and outta bed this morning....heres where i posted index.php?showtopic=3227 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3227)
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ok so i posted rol, i believe...could some1 check it for me to make sure i did it correctly. the mind is kinda slow today. man...took me like an extra hour to get up and outta bed this morning....heres where i posted index.php?showtopic=3227 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3227)
you got it. just focus on making it through 3 days...one day at a time. Then the nic is gone. glad to have you in july with me.
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yep imma just trying to take it day by day not think about what could happen tomorrow. although right now my chest feels pretty tight and im kinda dizzy....otherwise ok....
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yep imma just trying to take it day by day not think about what could happen tomorrow. although right now my chest feels pretty tight and im kinda dizzy....otherwise ok....
Just keep your head down and embrace the suck.
I felt the same way, chest tight, kind of buzzed, like I OD'd on uppers or something. The worst passes in those first few days. Just work through it hour by hour, minute by minute if you have to. Hang out at the site and go into the chat room as much as you can. It helps pass those early days with folks who understand.
Remember:
1. Quitting is the most important thing you'll do all day today.
2. Caving is not an option.
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just wanted to say.....AAAAAHHHHH!!!!!My head is screaming right now for it. I'm going back to school to lift some weights and run around the track for a while. Besides doing the herbal stuff and working out, any one have any helpful hints or anything? Ill be back later I just gotta go do something to stop thinking about it....does caffeine make any of this worse because being a student I tend to drink quite a few dews a day...
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I wish I would have quit in my early 20s also. You spoke about stress from school and exams and the anxiety factor. I gotta tell yah I went through college and grad school and always used that same excuse not to quit. In fact I have still used it in the past 8 years or so as a working professional. I always came up with some stress in my life not to quit, when I make more money, when my business takes off, when I get married, have kids... blah blah blah. You can always find a stress that will convince you to dip. Thats why I decided to do it for me no matter what stress there is and take it one day at a time.
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just wanted to say.....AAAAAHHHHH!!!!!My head is screaming right now for it. I'm going back to school to lift some weights and run around the track for a while. Besides doing the herbal stuff and working out, any one have any helpful hints or anything? Ill be back later I just gotta go do something to stop thinking about it....does caffeine make any of this worse because being a student I tend to drink quite a few dews a day...
Watch out for the caffine, you process it differently than you used to. You already mentioned anxiety is a problem for you and caffine tends to make anxiety worse.
There is no easy way to do this. Here is what has worked for me so far. I get up each day, post my promise and live up to my word. Simple, not easy but simple. You are an addict and you are going to have to re-claim your body and your mind. Quitting is hard work !!
Drink plenty of juices, water, when you think you have had all the water you can handle, drink another glass.
Get exercise every day, watch out for alcohol. I also found Yoga and meditation helped me quite a bit. Read, Read, Read.. post like crazy and spend time on the site.
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just wanted to say.....AAAAAHHHHH!!!!!My head is screaming right now for it. I'm going back to school to lift some weights and run around the track for a while. Besides doing the herbal stuff and working out, any one have any helpful hints or anything? Ill be back later I just gotta go do something to stop thinking about it....does caffeine make any of this worse because being a student I tend to drink quite a few dews a day...
Hey Gobo,
You can do this. Drink lots of water, stay away from the caffene or any other triggers you used to do with the shit in your mouth. Get through the first 3 days then it is all mental even though it will feel like it is physical.
The nick bitch will try every trick in the book so keep your head on a swivel and stay quit.
I quit 92 days ago after a 30 year habit of a can every other day. I have depression and anxiety, but believe me craving will only make those symptoms seem worse because you will beat the shit out of your self for not keeping your word.
I live in just outside of Milwaukee. If you ever want to talk or get together let me know. PM sent.
Stay quit Bro.
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just wanted to say.....AAAAAHHHHH!!!!!My head is screaming right now for it. I'm going back to school to lift some weights and run around the track for a while. Besides doing the herbal stuff and working out, any one have any helpful hints or anything? Ill be back later I just gotta go do something to stop thinking about it....does caffeine make any of this worse because being a student I tend to drink quite a few dews a day...
Hey Gobo,
You can do this. Drink lots of water, stay away from the caffene or any other triggers you used to do with the shit in your mouth. Get through the first 3 days then it is all mental even though it will feel like it is physical.
The nick bitch will try every trick in the book so keep your head on a swivel and stay quit.
I quit 92 days ago after a 30 year habit of a can every other day. I have depression and anxiety, but believe me craving will only make those symptoms seem worse because you will beat the shit out of your self for not keeping your word.
I live in just outside of Milwaukee. If you ever want to talk or get together let me know. PM sent.
Stay quit Bro.
Caffeine can actually make it worse: http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp)
Drink a TON of water... flush your system and remember one thing. You NEVER have to feel like this again... just don't dip.
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thanks guys. I feel a bit better after working out. I think imma watch something on my ps3 and do some woodworking. My girlfriend is moving into a new apartment and she wants all her sealed oak furniture to match the new cherryish mahogany colored wood floor. Time to start stripping! Hopefully not just the furniture....;-) sorry, sick sense of humor....
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ok...so i know nic speeds up your metabolism, but I'm actually more hungry than I was on it. Like A LOt more...any one else have this?
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ok...so i know nic speeds up your metabolism, but I'm actually more hungry than I was on it. Like A LOt more...any one else have this?
Increased appetite is pretty common. Your body knows it is missing something it's used to, and since you are denying it the nic (nice work!), it will take food instead. At least that's how I felt. Also, for me, dipping was the first thing I did after EVERYTHING I ever ate, so my body was conditioned to think that a dip signaled the end of a meal. With no signal, my body would want me to just keep eating.
You will break these cycles in due time, but for now, do whatever it takes to keep from dipping - eat, fake dip, seeds, gum, excercise, whatever. Don't recommend alcohol because that has been present for many a cave. If you want to up your excercise or try to control your appetite to manage weight and avoid gain, great. But remember, QUITTING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU WILL DO TODAY, so do what it takes to protect your quit.
Keep up the good work!
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ok cool. glad to know its not just me. After I was done eating my head was absolutly going nuts. Tried seeds, no luck, tried gum, nothin, finally tried Youngs Chew I have, quieted the brain down quite a bit. Is the brain that gullible that it thinks that just because something feels like dip that it is?
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so totally off the topic of quitting but has any one ever seen the documentary Sniper:Inside the crosshairs? There was an army sniper in Iraq that took out a target over 13 football fields away. Holy shit! Thats why you don't piss off the US Military!
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ok cool. glad to know its not just me. After I was done eating my head was absolutly going nuts. Tried seeds, no luck, tried gum, nothin, finally tried Youngs Chew I have, quieted the brain down quite a bit. Is the brain that gullible that it thinks that just because something feels like dip that it is?
word of advice.......
stay away from Reese Cups and Cold Milk after say.....10 o'clock...and eating 4 at a time can result in 60 effin lbs. of new ass to tote.....
just sayin.....
after 841 days i am within 12 lbs. of my pre-quit weight........one way of doing it...maybe not the best, but one way nonetheless.......
realize we all have "addictive" type personalities that doesn't always take into account what may be good for us......
at the same time.....i can speak from experience....the Reese Cup Quit works
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thanks totally needed that today. no offense but that was hilarious...
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Alright ladies and gents, the girlfriend just got home from rehearsal for the show shes running so Im gonna go lie down, watch some F.R.I.E.N.D.S. and hit the hay. I made it through day 1! Feel like crap physically but mentally I fell awesome that I made it!.....on a side not, anyone else watch Friends? See ya guys tomorrow.
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so totally off the topic of quitting but has any one ever seen the documentary Sniper:Inside the crosshairs? There was an army sniper in Iraq that took out a target over 13 football fields away. Holy shit! Thats why you don't piss off the US Military!
Didn't see the documentary, but I am a former Marine Scout Sniper. Long range shooting is very cool stuff. The round reaches the target before you can hear the shot.
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Cool! My grandpa is a Marine. 2nd Corporal. He was in Vietnam. The first Battalion into it as a matter of fact. I really respect everything you guys do. Semper fidelis.....
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Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that Im doing alright. Im tired as fuck, totally can't think straight, and my head feels like its in a vice grip But other than that im super! Ill post later tonight. But while I'm gone, is tea ok to drink or stick to water and juice and try to stay away from the dew as much as possible? thanks a lot guys. Later!
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Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that Im doing alright. Im tired as fuck, totally can't think straight, and my head feels like its in a vice grip But other than that im super! Ill post later tonight. But while I'm gone, is tea ok to drink or stick to water and juice and try to stay away from the dew as much as possible? thanks a lot guys. Later!
I started drinking a lot of green tea. I chose to drink decaffinated just to keep my anxiety down. Choice is yours.. just go easy on the booze.
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ok so now im starting to need some help guys. So im doing ok now, using sugarfree gum and herbal chew but every now and then, i think my brain is trying to kill me. It keeps saying like you cant do this and just give up now. no one will know....i keep beating it back down b/c I really want to live a "normal" life and actually live to have kids. I mean i've always dreamed of having kids so thats what I keep fighting for but my brain just randomly keeps piping in saying its ok, which i know there is no acceptable reason to cave and i REFUSE to but just some kind words of empathy would be nice....Yah! tell me this gets easier, Im craving so badly right now. Im going to run on the track, ill be back later, gotta go do somethin guys, im going NUTS!!!!
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I does get better. Nobody said this would be easy. Your body is getting the poison out, but the first few days suck. In a week, you will feel 100 times better, but you have to work through those first few days hour by hour, minute by minute. All you have to do is make that time pass. Doesn't matter how, as long as it doesn't involve nicotine (or alcohol for a while).
Take comfort in:
1. The fact that the worst of it only lasts three days. You just have to get through them and it starts getting significantly better.
2. The fact that by putting up this badass fight these first few tough days, you are investing in the future. Three tough days traded for thousands of better ones. I can't make you understand how much better the last 20 years of my life would have been without dip. You can do it now and save yourself the regrets so many of us have. Oh, and you are saving your life, your face, your teeth and your gums.
3. The fact that we all have done it, even guys who have dipped for 20 (me), 30, 40 years. We all went through those same three days cold turkey and gutted it out. Your mind isn't telling you you can't do this. That would be the lying whore, the nicbitch. Of course you can do it! We're all proof of that.
4. The fact that you don't have a choice. You promised me and all your brothers here that you would not use nicotine today. You are a man of your word. Your other brothers are fighting the same fight against dip that you are and they are keeping their word to you.
We're all here for you. You've made an incredibly good decision for your life. Keep it up, man up and make this happen. You are quit!
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Gobblegoomaster
your fine, everything you feel is normal. The headache is your brain freakin out that it is getting so much oxygen, (yes chew fucked with that too). Take a tylenol pm and go to bed.
Watch the caffiene intake
Keep your blood sugar stable- a sugar crash will lead to a crave
Keep up the exercise, it will help tremendously.
Go to chat if you need some help
Make sure you have some numbers
It does get better,I promise you it does. At 452 days I gotta tell you it is one hell of alot easier . Your "brain" is going to beg scream and cry for its nicotine fix. Acknowledge the crave take a deep breath and move on. Go read the Tom and Jenny Kern story, look at ODT's cancer surgery, Start reading the cancer and quitter stories, read the Hof speeches. Pick a group that has hit the Hof and read the first 100 days.
Your no different than the rest of us. Your an addict. Start treating yourself like one, a heroin addict makes up the same use rationalizations that you do. Think I'm full of it? Google heroin addiction and look for infor on relapse excuses. I bet you a rubber chicken you can find at least a dozen that match some of the " just one thoughts your having" Your earning your freedom, the suck is the price of admission, EMBRACE IT. Craves wont kill you but dip will.
Oh, as for the ball coddling you wanted? It's ok buttercup, it'll all be alright, bad ole nic bitch pickin on you.??? ahhhhww Sweet pea your ok..
Fuck that, get mean goobermiester this shit is hard so you better get tough
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Its only day 3 and I just woke up and im feeling the best i have in a long time. Plus its so nice not to have to get up early just to do a lip. Those days are fucking over! Hell yeah!
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Its only day 3 and I just woke up and im feeling the best i have in a long time. Plus its so nice not to have to get up early just to do a lip. Those days are fucking over! Hell yeah!
ONE DAY AT A TIME gobbler
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Its only day 3 and I just woke up and im feeling the best i have in a long time. Plus its so nice not to have to get up early just to do a lip. Those days are fucking over! Hell yeah!
ONE DAY AT A TIME gobbler
The fight has just begun.
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Its only day 3 and I just woke up and im feeling the best i have in a long time. Plus its so nice not to have to get up early just to do a lip. Those days are fucking over! Hell yeah!
ONE DAY AT A TIME gobbler
The fight has just begun.
I do believe a treat of true goodness has been earned....
Have a Reese Cup and a big ole glass of cold milk...yum yum
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Its only day 3 and I just woke up and im feeling the best i have in a long time. Plus its so nice not to have to get up early just to do a lip. Those days are fucking over! Hell yeah!
ONE DAY AT A TIME gobbler
The fight has just begun.
I do believe a treat of true goodness has been earned....
Have a Reese Cup and a big ole glass of cold milk...yum yum
You know MM's work good too. I like the peanut ones
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I didnt have MMs or Reeses. But I did have a Kit-Kat and peanut butter....