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Title: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 05, 2011, 07:18:00 AM
I am 29 years old, originally from Cleveland, OH. I have been married for 8 years and I have three Children, Daughter (7), Daughter (4), Son (2). I am a Warrant Officer in the United States Army and a recent quitter.

I started smoking around Age 14 until I joined the Army at age 18. Switched to Skoal, mostly mint and then Berry Blend and finally to berry blend pouches in early 2002-2008. I even dipped the entire time I had braces! I put aside dip and switched to Commit Lozenges on January 5th, 2008. That was the day I thought I had "quit". Wrong! I am now deployed to Kuwait, and two weeks ago the inevitable happened: I ran out of lozenges. I made it 4 days thinking I could just beat this thing through starvation. On day 5, I walked into the PX and bought a can of Copenhagen Pouches...just like that, I was back to square one. I dipped one pouch that evening, 4 the next day and then tossed the can. After 1 day, I made a trip to another base in Kuwait in hopes of finding the lozenges. Low and behold they were all out. That very night when I returned I bought another can. Had 1 pouch that night, 3 the next day and then got up on KTC. I am now on day 6 and feeling confident. I think the biggest hurdle for me has been in making sure that in my mind, there is no "next time I get the chance". That hope of a fix is what drives my cravings. After promising to quit for my wife (our wedding day was my deadline), each of my kids birthdays was a deadline, it finally took me to put my foot down and KTC!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Gump on September 05, 2011, 08:10:00 AM
Glad to see you here Warrant Officer.

I just want to clarify something for you. I think you get it, but you haven't put it in concrete terms for yourself.

You don't crave because you are weak, or because you ran out of lozenges, or because you have been deployed overseas, or because you think there will be a better time to quit when you have all your ducks lined up, or because you don't respect your wife or your children or anything like that.

You crave NICOTINE because you are an ADDICT. That is the Alpha and the Omega of this thing.

We are all nicotine addicts here, and we all have to come to grips with that fact. The lozenges never worked because they fed your addiction, just as surely as the pouches did.

Promising us every day via roll that you won't use nicotine that day keeps you clean for that day. And we'll demand that you keep your promise to us. One day at a time.

Thanks for your service.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: azchief32 on September 05, 2011, 08:13:00 AM
Wo1miles,

Welcome to the December group...Being deployed sucks on its own and to have to jump balls deep into a quit...Good on you bro. My email is azchief32@mac.com (http://mailto:azchief32@mac.com) if you get bored and want to B.S. or vent. Good luck and stay strong. Eric
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Jaymodill on September 05, 2011, 06:20:00 PM
Welcome December brother. Let me just say first off, thank you for your service and the courage you have to face the things I want to ignore. I admire you and your willingness to serve our country. I truly hope you stick around with us here. Post roll every day and let us know that you will be nic free. You have spent years fighting for and defending our freedom - Today you fight for your freedom. If you don't mind, I will be praying for you.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Radman on September 06, 2011, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Gump
Glad to see you here Warrant Officer.

I just want to clarify something for you. I think you get it, but you haven't put it in concrete terms for yourself.

You don't crave because you are weak, or because you ran out of lozenges, or because you have been deployed overseas, or because you think there will be a better time to quit when you have all your ducks lined up, or because you don't respect your wife or your children or anything like that.

You crave NICOTINE because you are an ADDICT. That is the Alpha and the Omega of this thing.

We are all nicotine addicts here, and we all have to come to grips with that fact. The lozenges never worked because they fed your addiction, just as surely as the pouches did.

Promising us every day via roll that you won't use nicotine that day keeps you clean for that day. And we'll demand that you keep your promise to us. One day at a time.

Thanks for your service.
It don't get much plainer than that. Well said, Gump.

Wo1miles, you are an addict. Face it, embrace it, but you can't erase it. You can, however, win the battle today. Post, promise, honor, repeat. It's that simple. Notice I said simple, not easy.

From one addict to another, congratulations on being here. PM me if I can help you any way.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: whacko on September 07, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
WO1,
Congrats on the quit! I actually picked up my addiction (I used to call it a habbit) when I was deployed in 2009! I dipped for the deployment and promised I would quit when I redeployed! Yeah right.....a year after coming home I was still ninja dipping and 4 weeks ago that changed. I had enough! The guys here have helped me to realize that nic is not a habbit! I will be addicted to nicotene for the rest of my life! But being quit and free is awesome!

Come home safe......and quit!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 09, 2011, 08:42:00 AM
Just like to point out that a guy out here with me thought it funny to pop a giant fuckin plug right in front of my desk and then use my half empty bottle of water to spit. Fuckin Assholes...just strengthening my resolve to stay quit...TODAY!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Kdip on September 09, 2011, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Just like to point out that a guy out here with me thought it funny to pop a giant fuckin plug right in front of my desk and then use my half empty bottle of water to spit. Fuckin Assholes...just strengthening my resolve to stay quit...TODAY!
Nice work miles! He's the weak pansy ass that can't quit and he's scared of losing a fellow dipper that helps justify his addiction. You can DO this one day at a time!!! Good talking to you in chat yesterday brother! If you need anything or a phone # PM me.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: azchief32 on September 09, 2011, 04:03:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Just like to point out that a guy out here with me thought it funny to pop a giant fuckin plug right in front of my desk and then use my half empty bottle of water to spit. Fuckin Assholes...just strengthening my resolve to stay quit...TODAY!
w01miles...You realize you used to do that...lol.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 09, 2011, 04:54:00 PM
Day 10. Realizing how much of a dick I've been through the years. Stealing peoples beverage containers, fishing someone else's bottles out of the trash. Using half full, week old dip bottles that reek to shit.

I also see how persuasive others can be when they are married to the NIC Bitch. Luckily, I quit today...all day!

So far I've learned this lesson about the quit: I look at others who dip or smoke and feel bad for them, because they are not even on Day 1 of their quit. And they will be one day, either of their own doing, or because they can't physically hold a dip/inhale a cigarette anymore.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 10, 2011, 02:23:00 AM
Day 11- Feeling a little squirrley. The grogginess is getting much better. I've found that sleeping with transvestite hookers helps to alleviate the fog (pre-op only). I've also been drinking dark colored urine to cleanse out the system of all toxic remnants. Tomorrow I'm going to try my mom's homemade remedy. It involves fecal matter, a stuffed buffalo, and the pilot episode of Perfect Strangers. I hope it works, I can't take any more enemas or my colon might slip out and I'll need a team of professionals to wedge it back into the chute.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Gump on September 10, 2011, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 11- Feeling a little squirrley. The grogginess is getting much better. I've found that sleeping with transvestite hookers helps to alleviate the fog (pre-op only). I've also been drinking dark colored urine to cleanse out the system of all toxic remnants. Tomorrow I'm going to try my mom's homemade remedy. It involves fecal matter, a stuffed buffalo, and the pilot episode of Perfect Strangers. I hope it works, I can't take any more enemas or my colon might slip out and I'll need a team of professionals to wedge it back into the chute.
Um...Damn!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Souliman on September 10, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
Quote from: Gump
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 11- Feeling a little squirrley. The grogginess is getting much better. I've found that sleeping with transvestite hookers helps to alleviate the fog (pre-op only). I've also been drinking dark colored urine to cleanse out the system of all toxic remnants. Tomorrow I'm going to try my mom's homemade remedy. It involves fecal matter, a stuffed buffalo, and the pilot episode of Perfect Strangers. I hope it works, I can't take any more enemas or my colon might slip out and I'll need a team of professionals to wedge it back into the chute.
Um...Damn!
I like your style.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Scowick65 on September 10, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: Gump
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 11- Feeling a little squirrley. The grogginess is getting much better. I've found that sleeping with transvestite hookers helps to alleviate the fog (pre-op only). I've also been drinking dark colored urine to cleanse out the system of all toxic remnants. Tomorrow I'm going to try my mom's homemade remedy. It involves fecal matter, a stuffed buffalo, and the pilot episode of Perfect Strangers. I hope it works, I can't take any more enemas or my colon might slip out and I'll need a team of professionals to wedge it back into the chute.
Um...Damn!
I like your style.
Cream of Weasel Soup is good also. Keep the fight.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 11, 2011, 01:10:00 AM
Day 12- I do believe my fog is half-lifing itself. I woke up today without the urge to ram a giant stake into my cornea. I ran across a stray desert dog with a hopeless case of rabies yesterday, and before I could say anything to him he stopped me and said "Not today, asshole. I'm tired of your foggy ass fucking with me."
I ordered a sample pack of Hooch from the Hoochie website and didn't realize until the transaction was complete that it was substitute for snuff, not a sampling of promiscuous tramps like I thought. My quit serum for the day will consist of a shredded #2 Pencil without the eraser, 3 thin slices of pickle pimiento loaf and a bottle of Lysol Disenfectant. It only works if you're watching a season 2 episode of "Step By Step".

Remember Always 9-11-2001. THAT is why we are there!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Scowick65 on September 11, 2011, 02:29:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 12- I do believe my fog is half-lifing itself. I woke up today without the urge to ram a giant stake into my cornea. I ran across a stray desert dog with a hopeless case of rabies yesterday, and before I could say anything to him he stopped me and said "Not today, asshole. I'm tired of your foggy ass fucking with me."
I ordered a sample pack of Hooch from the Hoochie website and didn't realize until the transaction was complete that it was substitute for snuff, not a sampling of promiscuous tramps like I thought. My quit serum for the day will consist of a shredded #2 Pencil without the eraser, 3 thin slices of pickle pimiento loaf and a bottle of Lysol Disenfectant. It only works if you're watching a season 2 episode of "Step By Step".

Remember Always 9-11-2001. THAT is why we are there!
Remember all of your misery. Next time you want a dip replay the misery in your head. 1 day at a time.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 12, 2011, 01:04:00 AM
Day 13- I've been at sea for almost two weeks. Still no sign of land. The seagulls have begun eating my eyebrows and my supply of Funyuns is running dangerously low. The sharks that were circling my duckie float decided I wasn't good enough to fuck with and instead decided to devour buckshooter52. If I don't hit land soon, I will most certainly develop a very uncomfortable sunburn on my nose. Yes, it is that serious, my SPF 1,000 is empty. I find myself alone wondering why Screech from Saved By The Bell turned into a complete douchebag. No one will ever find me out here. This is the end. Excuse me while I play angry birds on my Iphone...
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Radman on September 12, 2011, 01:16:00 PM
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Day 13- I've been at sea for almost two weeks. Still no sign of land. The seagulls have begun eating my eyebrows and my supply of Funyuns is running dangerously low. The sharks that were circling my duckie float decided I wasn't good enough to fuck with and instead decided to devour buckshooter52. If I don't hit land soon, I will most certainly develop a very uncomfortable sunburn on my nose. Yes, it is that serious, my SPF 1,000 is empty. I find myself alone wondering why Screech from Saved By The Bell turned into a complete douchebag. No one will ever find me out here. This is the end. Excuse me while I play angry birds on my Iphone...
I absolutely love foggy new quitters. This is some twisted, but damn entertaining, shit right here.

Carry on, you crazy sumbitch. You remind us why we must never suffer another day one.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 13, 2011, 03:24:00 AM
Day 14- After the crash I was able to get my bearings and make it to the fuselage. There were bodies strewn about but I was able to find a few bag of peanuts and club soda. My worst fear was realized when I noticed that my shoes were untied. This was going to make getting to the coast to signal for help very difficult. After the peanuts and club soda were consumed, I started resorting to eating human buttocks. To my chagrin, he woke up and beat the living shit out of me when he realized what I was doing to him. My quit has me reminding myself that Tony Danza was not a believable housekeeper. We have made a pact to eat dead flesh and cans of congealed SPAM. I fear rescue crews will not be able to spot the wreckage and we will have to repopulate through asexual reproduction. I'm off to boil my pee and charge my ipod.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Gump on September 13, 2011, 08:20:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 14- After the crash I was able to get my bearings and make it to the fuselage. There were bodies strewn about but I was able to find a few bag of peanuts and club soda. My worst fear was realized when I noticed that my shoes were untied. This was going to make getting to the coast to signal for help very difficult. After the peanuts and club soda were consumed, I started resorting to eating human buttocks. To my chagrin, he woke up and beat the living shit out of me when he realized what I was doing to him. My quit has me reminding myself that Tony Danza was not a believable housekeeper. We have made a pact to eat dead flesh and cans of congealed SPAM. I fear rescue crews will not be able to spot the wreckage and we will have to repopulate through asexual reproduction. I'm off to boil my pee and charge my ipod.
Thanks a lot, now I have that Elton John song stuck in my head...

..."Hold me closer, Tony Danza"...
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Souliman on September 13, 2011, 09:50:00 PM
Quote from: Gump
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 14- After the crash I was able to get my bearings and make it to the fuselage. There were bodies strewn about but I was able to find a few bag of peanuts and club soda. My worst fear was realized when I noticed that my shoes were untied. This was going to make getting to the coast to signal for help very difficult. After the peanuts and club soda were consumed, I started resorting to eating human buttocks. To my chagrin, he woke up and beat the living shit out of me when he realized what I was doing to him. My quit has me reminding myself that Tony Danza was not a believable housekeeper. We have made a pact to eat dead flesh and cans of congealed SPAM. I fear rescue crews will not be able to spot the wreckage and we will have to repopulate through asexual reproduction. I'm off to boil my pee and charge my ipod.
Thanks a lot, now I have that Elton John song stuck in my head...

..."Hold me closer, Tony Danza"...
Holy shit gump...I sing those same lyrics every time I hear that song.

My other hits:

"You're insane...You probably think the monkeys surround you don't you...you're insane...you probably think the monkeys surround you don't you don't you".

"I think I'm eating too much cheese I think I'm eating too much cheese I really think so..."


PS. I don't know how many times I pleasured myself to Mona's cans in a tight sweater.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Scowick65 on September 13, 2011, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: Gump
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 14- After the crash I was able to get my bearings and make it to the fuselage. There were bodies strewn about but I was able to find a few bag of peanuts and club soda. My worst fear was realized when I noticed that my shoes were untied. This was going to make getting to the coast to signal for help very difficult. After the peanuts and club soda were consumed, I started resorting to eating human buttocks. To my chagrin, he woke up and beat the living shit out of me when he realized what I was doing to him. My quit has me reminding myself that Tony Danza was not a believable housekeeper. We have made a pact to eat dead flesh and cans of congealed SPAM. I fear rescue crews will not be able to spot the wreckage and we will have to repopulate through asexual reproduction. I'm off to boil my pee and charge my ipod.
Thanks a lot, now I have that Elton John song stuck in my head...

..."Hold me closer, Tony Danza"...
Holy shit gump...I sing those same lyrics every time I hear that song.

My other hits:

"You're insane...You probably think the monkeys surround you don't you...you're insane...you probably think the monkeys surround you don't you don't you".

"I think I'm eating too much cheese I think I'm eating too much cheese I really think so..."
I left my harp to Sam Frank's disco.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Gump on September 13, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: Gump
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 14- After the crash I was able to get my bearings and make it to the fuselage. There were bodies strewn about but I was able to find a few bag of peanuts and club soda. My worst fear was realized when I noticed that my shoes were untied. This was going to make getting to the coast to signal for help very difficult. After the peanuts and club soda were consumed, I started resorting to eating human buttocks. To my chagrin, he woke up and beat the living shit out of me when he realized what I was doing to him. My quit has me reminding myself that Tony Danza was not a believable housekeeper. We have made a pact to eat dead flesh and cans of congealed SPAM. I fear rescue crews will not be able to spot the wreckage and we will have to repopulate through asexual reproduction. I'm off to boil my pee and charge my ipod.
Thanks a lot, now I have that Elton John song stuck in my head...

..."Hold me closer, Tony Danza"...
Holy shit gump...I sing those same lyrics every time I hear that song.

My other hits:

"You're insane...You probably think the monkeys surround you don't you...you're insane...you probably think the monkeys surround you don't you don't you".

"I think I'm eating too much cheese I think I'm eating too much cheese I really think so..."
I left my harp to Sam Frank's disco.
"Purty little luuuuv song...10 feet long"

And of course, the classic

"There's a bathroom on the right"
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 14, 2011, 12:56:00 AM
Day 15- It's cold. With the blizzard outside I fear that if I leave my shelter I may die a horrible ghonnorea death. Food rations are depleted, and I am drawing faint and listless. Not sure if it's the malnutrition or the Clay Aiken CD I've been listening to since yesterday. My situation has gotten so dire even the fuckin penguins are drawing straws to determine who gets to eat my rotting carcass. It's at times like this when I wonder why Laura from Family Matters was such a snooty bitch to Urkel all those years. I fear the search party has turned away because of the horrible conditions. I just hope I can....oh, the Zoo is closing. Gotta Go.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Bowman on September 14, 2011, 01:26:00 AM
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Day 15- It's cold. With the blizzard outside I fear that if I leave my shelter I may die a horrible ghonnorea death. Food rations are depleted, and I am drawing faint and listless. Not sure if it's the malnutrition or the Clay Aiken CD I've been listening to since yesterday. My situation has gotten so dire even the fuckin penguins are drawing straws to determine who gets to eat my rotting carcass. It's at times like this when I wonder why Laura from Family Matters was such a snooty bitch to Urkel all those years. I fear the search party has turned away because of the horrible conditions. I just hope I can....oh, the Zoo is closing. Gotta Go.
What the hell ever happened to the youngest child from Family Matters? Judy, was it? She just disappeared without acknowledgment. It's bullshit, man. Bullshit. They could have at least had her commit suicide in a "very special episode of Family Matters." At least the show would have taught kids not to neglect their children to the point that they get depressed and off themselves.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 14, 2011, 01:30:00 AM
Quote from: Bowman

What the hell ever happened to the youngest child from Family Matters?  Judy, was it?
Judy was doing porn for a while. Saw her on Maury or something.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Bowman on September 14, 2011, 01:32:00 AM
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Quote from: Bowman

What the hell ever happened to the youngest child from Family Matters?  Judy, was it?
Judy was doing porn for a while. Saw her on Maury or something.
Real porn or Jessie Spano porn?
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 14, 2011, 01:42:00 AM
I believe it was real porn. Although Jessie Spano porn woulda been ok too.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Bowman on September 14, 2011, 01:47:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
I believe it was real porn. Although Jessie Spano porn woulda been ok too.
Yeah, I just looked it up. She did some movies for "Bang Bros." On a related note, I felt like a creep when I read that and thought "Hey, I've been to that site! I wonder if I saw her in anything!"

Ok, sorry for the interruption. Back to your regularly scheduled inane ramblings from wo1miles.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 15, 2011, 01:42:00 AM
Day 16- I'm writing this from under the desk. The alarm has sounded and it appears the commies have decided to unleash their Army of mutant female zombies. Luckily I brought my survival kit containing a Snickers Bar, 3 cans of original pringles, 2 soda can pull tabs and an empty box of kleenex. I should be able to hold them off for at least 6 minutes. That should be enough time for Splinter to summon the Ninja Turtles. Maybe not Donatello cuz he's slow as shit, but the other ones. In my haste to cower like a little sissy I forgot to lock the door to my office. Hopefully the zombies don't realize this and use me for brainless sexual experimentation. It's at times like these that I get to wondering if Joey from Full House was bisexual. The fog has lifted and revealed a whole new world of smelly addiction around me that causes me to laugh on my insides. I will enjoy today because today I wear no pants in celebration of Cinco De Mayo!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 16, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
Day 17- Yay, it's LIST day. Today I will list 20 things you can do without dip:

1- Fight off evil flying monkeys.
2- Collect unicorn horns in your basement.
3- Turn your pockets out so it's looks like you aint got no money.
4- Put up one of those old lady bending over things in your front yard
5- Fill up water balloons with dog poop and fling 'em at your neighbor.
6- Walk on Water
7- Drink Kool-Aid without getting the red mustache.
8- Get gas without drippin it all over the side of the car.
9- Go to the zoo and not suffer from multiple spontaneous erections/moistness.
10- Actually have it your way at Burger King...including Onions!
11- Walk counter-clockwise around your kitchen table.
12- Mow your neighbor's back porch.
13- Buy a Weird Al Yankovic CD
14- Eat broccoli without cheese and butter.
15- Ask that girl that's kinda attractive on a date.
16- Eat bacon without getting grease prints on your pants.
17-Go to the movies with your sister without thinking "she owes me"
18-Watch Growing Pains and not wonder what happened to Boner.
19-Brush your teeth and not still smell like Cherry or Mint Snausages
20-Whatever the fuck you want brotha...cuz you a bad ass quitter!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: LLCope on September 16, 2011, 03:42:00 PM
'crackup'
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Scowick65 on September 16, 2011, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 17- Yay, it's LIST day. Today I will list 20 things you can do without dip:

1- Fight off evil flying monkeys.
2- Collect unicorn horns in your basement.
3- Turn your pockets out so it's looks like you aint got no money.
4- Put up one of those old lady bending over things in your front yard
5- Fill up water balloons with dog poop and fling 'em at your neighbor.
6- Walk on Water
7- Drink Kool-Aid without getting the red mustache.
8- Get gas without drippin it all over the side of the car.
9- Go to the zoo and not suffer from multiple spontaneous erections/moistness.
10- Actually have it your way at Burger King...including Onions!
11- Walk counter-clockwise around your kitchen table.
12- Mow your neighbor's back porch.
13- Buy a Weird Al Yankovic CD
14- Eat broccoli without cheese and butter.
15- Ask that girl that's kinda attractive on a date.
16- Eat bacon without getting grease prints on your pants.
17-Go to the movies with your sister without thinking "she owes me"
18-Watch Growing Pains and not wonder what happened to Boner.
19-Brush your teeth and not still smell like Cherry or Mint Snausages
20-Whatever the fuck you want brotha...cuz you a bad ass quitter!
I like you. Shades of Hootie in the May 2011 group. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 17, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
Day 18- Due to laziness I found another list instead of posting sentences. This one is a list of people who use to dip but don't now

1- Bob Saget
2- Lewis (But not Clark)
3- Steve Buscemi
4- Elmo
5- Mikey Walsh
6- Christopher Columbus
7- Howard the Duck
8- Jonny Skoal
9- Brutus Buckeye
10- Alex Keaton
11- Gumby
12- Adolf Hitler
13- Ferris Buehler
14- Foul Phil (from Garbage Pail Kids)
15- Jerry (But not Ben)
16- Timmy the Tooth
17- John Kerry
18- Richard "Wild Thing" Vaughn
19- Gumby
20- Steven Hawking

-These are all unconfirmed and pretty much just uneducated guesses.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Gump on September 17, 2011, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 18- Due to laziness I found another list instead of posting sentences. This one is a list of people who use to dip but don't now

1- Bob Saget
2- Lewis (But not Clark)
3- Steve Buscemi
4- Elmo
5- Mikey Walsh
6- Christopher Columbus
7- Howard the Duck
8- Jonny Skoal
9- Brutus Buckeye
10- Alex Keaton
11- Gumby
12- Adolf Hitler
13- Ferris Buehler
14- Foul Phil (from Garbage Pail Kids)
15- Jerry (But not Ben)
16- Timmy the Tooth
17- John Kerry
18- Richard "Wild Thing" Vaughn
19- Gumby
20- Steven Hawking

-These are all unconfirmed and pretty much just uneducated guesses.
Did Gumby cave at some point? LOL. You have him listed twice!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 19, 2011, 04:50:00 AM
Quote from: Gump
Did Gumby cave at some point? LOL. You have him listed twice!
Gumby caved on day 1,841. Pokey never gave up the dip.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 19, 2011, 05:12:00 AM
Day 20- If anyone is wondering about the apparent randomness of my signature and avatars, I've actually hit upon a common theme to them. In each of my avatars over the last 10 days over so, there was plenty in common. For one, they obviously all 80's to early 90's sitcoms. Also, more importantly, the theme songs to these shows actually have strong ties to staying quit. Let's review shall we:

Who's The Boss- "Brand new life goes round the bend"
Growing Pains- "As long as we got each other"
Family Ties- "What would we do baby, without (tough)love"
Full House- "Everywhere you look there's a face, of somebody who needs you"
Step-By-Step- "Step by Step, day by day"
Family Matters- "Days go byyyy...it's the bigger love of the family"
Bosom Buddies- "I don't care what you say anymore cuz it's my life."
etc. etc. etc.

All these carry a common theme of taking life one step at a time, leaning on the comfort of others when the going gets tough, and that changing your life is never but a decision away. We have all made the choice to cut poison from our lives. Perhaps it's a stretch but to me finding these themes and posting them everyday is somewhat theraputic and reinforces my quit. It also amuses me in a giddy little school girl kinda way. By the way, I wasn't fooled by Tom Hanks and the other guy dressing as women. What a dumb landlord. Carry on.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 20, 2011, 01:55:00 PM
Day 21- Holy Moley monkey balls!!! It's 3 weeks already? The time really flies when you're grounded by fog. Well I got my Hooch shipment in yesterday. Holy shit did I feel guilty pinching this shit. It burns the shit out of your gum. What a mind blow! So far liking it a lot. I made an observation over the past three weeks: Dippers are fucking pigs. They will spit their wad out any where they see fit. It's all over the ground here on base in Kuwait, there is no regard whatsoever for using trash receptacles. Did I do the same shit when I was a dipper? Yep, I bet I did. Of course I'd never admit it then. Alas I am foggy today not because of the Nic Whore, but because I think I'm still recovering from my 13 mile brush with death this weekend. Of course, a bunch of people have decided to follow up the half-marathon with a 10K run on friday for Breast Cancer. Of course it's for a good cause and since my bloodflow is no longer constricted, bring that shit on. Anyway hope everyone is having an awesome Tuesday and if you need me I'll be over here fondling the camel. No, no, not that camel...the hot one.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: miles on September 20, 2011, 03:50:00 PM
Keep it up Miles. This thread will help you remember WHY you quit when those urges come on.

At least the camel will spit on it first right?!?
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 24, 2011, 12:34:00 AM
Day 25- Observation: I was going through the member list as found something interesting. Through the first 30 pages of member list names, I saw 1,500 member names. Of those, 219 had at least 100 posts (what would be the absolute minimum for HOF status).

This means 43 out of 50 members (in this sample) signed up and didn't make it to the HOF.

This is why when quitters come on here asking for help or telling us their grand plan, we need to reel them in and get them accountable. Most people have just a fleeting thought of quitting, and then they forget about it.

The faster we make them accountable, the stronger their quit will become. Join me in getting into these new introductions and getting these people roll posted. It will save their life, and strengthen your quit!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Scowick65 on September 24, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 25- Observation: I was going through the member list as found something interesting. Through the first 30 pages of member list names, I saw 1,500 member names. Of those, 219 had at least 100 posts (what would be the absolute minimum for HOF status).

This means 43 out of 50 members (in this sample) signed up and didn't make it to the HOF.

This is why when quitters come on here asking for help or telling us their grand plan, we need to reel them in and get them accountable. Most people have just a fleeting thought of quitting, and then they forget about it.

The faster we make them accountable, the stronger their quit will become. Join me in getting into these new introductions and getting these people roll posted. It will save their life, and strengthen your quit!
I see you are there for them. Thanks. I quit with you today.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on September 29, 2011, 04:45:00 AM
Day 30- As I was typing a reply under Mr. Skyhook's intro, it occurred to me. If NRT was so effective and temporary, why does Sams Club sell them in BULK? I spent 3.5 years buying huge packages of lozenges from Sams and rationalizing that "it's cheaper than Walgreen's."

Newsflash, NRT makers don't want you to quit after 12 weeks. You have to jump off the diving board and start your swim sometime. Make it now, without NRT. It doesn't help.

I was on the lozenge for 3.5 years and when I finally cuz loose from all nicotine, the withdrawal was just as bad as it would've been if I would have quit 3 and a half years ago off the can.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: nicofiend on September 29, 2011, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 30- As I was typing a reply under Mr. Skyhook's intro, it occurred to me. If NRT was so effective and temporary, why does Sams Club sell them in BULK? I spent 3.5 years buying huge packages of lozenges from Sams and rationalizing that "it's cheaper than Walgreen's."

Newsflash, NRT makers don't want you to quit after 12 weeks. You have to jump off the diving board and start your swim sometime. Make it now, without NRT. It doesn't help.

I was on the lozenge for 3.5 years and when I finally cuz loose from all nicotine, the withdrawal was just as bad as it would've been if I would have quit 3 and a half years ago off the can.
NIC is NIC , no matter what form!!!!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: G on September 29, 2011, 04:35:00 PM
Well, I was just reading your day 25 and day 30 posts. Excellent work in here, my friend. You're an asset around this place. Keep doing what you're doing.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on October 01, 2011, 01:37:00 AM
Day 32- A thought on quit weight gain. When we started dating the NIC bitch, we probably either lost some pounds, or were still very young. Over the years, our true natural weight was obscured by 10-20 lbs. by nicotine.

In other words, don't think of your post-quit weight gain as you gaining weight, think of it as you getting your 10-20 lbs. back that was owed to you by the NIC bitch.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on October 06, 2011, 06:19:00 AM
Day 37- I'm ass deep in a 3-day funk. This is a really really bad kind of funk. All I can think about right now is how many steps away from caving I am. I have gone to the store (which is exactly 154 steps from where I sleep) and stood there staring at the dip section. Picking up the cans, spinning them in their display case, reading the ingredients, the warning labels. All that keeps running through my mind is Skoal Peach, and I've never even fucking had Skoal Peach. WTF?!!!

For the last three days I've been able to leave the store empty handed. I head over to the movie tent, get some popcorn and go back to my room miserable as shit, and glad that I didn't cave for another day.

I made a promise today, and I will keep that promise regardless of how strong the urge is. I know that this, like the first three days, will pass. You can't get 37 days of quit back easily. I'm too far now to turn back, it's too much work. This is the longest I've gone without nicotine since basic training in 2001. 10 years, longest time quit. I can fucking do this.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: pokerleader on October 06, 2011, 08:40:00 AM
Wo1,
You are a strong person. You dont need that bitch. To use the words you once told me. She is nothing but a dirty whore. You can beat this man.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: lo sprk on October 06, 2011, 09:36:00 AM
wo1miles,

I know all quits are different but it seems like we both got on a similar path of the funk. It hit me the evening of 35 days-seems evenings are far worse. Anyway, Day 38 - when I woke up and started getting ready for the day I felt the fog lift and whole new clarity came about me. I was talking about this with Brothernomo, and how each time I see myself rising from the fog it makes my quit stronger and clearer.

Everytime we hit these phases, and they are a bitch, the foundation of what brought us here gets stronger as we rise above another battle with nicotine.

Hopefully we are on the same path and you will concur with me tomorrow. Until then, keep doing what you are doing, we've quit for today. -cas
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on October 08, 2011, 04:44:00 AM
Day 39- List Time

Things my mind has said to me since I quit and my interpretations of each:

1. You'll stop sweating if you put in a dip.A. Dip raises blood pressure and makes you sweat more.
2. Your mind will stop wandering if you suck on some dirt.
A. My mind will still wander AND feel guilty about caving.
3. You'll sleep nice and sound with a fat wad.A. You'll wake up feeling like shit, mouth tasting like shit, and dehydrated.
4. Your ADHD (self-diagnosed) will disappear if you suck the skoal.A. I don't fucking have ADHD and if I did, nicotine isn't the cure...stop googling it.
5. You have plenty of time to quit...you're in Kuwait, fuck it, pinch the Cope.A. Being away from the family is the best time to quit.
6. You think you feel bad now, just wait for 6 months from now..it'll just get worse.A. It can't possibly get worse, and if it does, it's still better than jaw removal.
7. You can pinch and post roll, who the fucks gonna know.A. I'm going to know...and I can't believe I'm actually thinking that.
8. Your wife doesn't care that you've quit, she's not paying attention.A. My wife is sick of me telling her I'm quit when I'm not...time to shut up and do it for me alone.
9. Now that you've been dip free a while, your healed. Your gums, your addiction are better now. A dip a day won't hurt. Look, your friends can handle a cigarette here and there.A. Those friends are either 1) headed toward addiction, or 2) Ninja Smoking/Dipping. Law of Addiction states one will never be enough. I can never go back. I must replace nicotine with things that better my mind, my body and my relationships.
10. Give it up already, you know you'll be back.A. I've only came back in the past because I was too weak in the mind to admit to myself that nicotine doesn't have to be a part of every one of life's decisions. I now have the tools to be successful. I have my quit brothers and sisters, I have plenty of information to remind me if I lose my way, and I have my word. My word every single day that for just today, if I do nothing else, I stay nicotine free.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: AgLawyer on October 08, 2011, 05:33:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles

8. Your wife doesn't care that you've quit, she's not paying attention.A. My wife is sick of me telling her I'm quit when I'm not...time to shut up and do it for me alone.
Dealt with same thing here. Told my wife so many times that I quit only for her to bust me in the lie. Now in my 70's and seeing me hop on the computer every morning to post roll she is starting to become a believer. Yours will too.

Good job staying quit - keep it up.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Scowick65 on October 08, 2011, 07:21:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 39- List Time

Things my mind has said to me since I quit and my interpretations of each:

1. You'll stop sweating if you put in a dip.A. Dip raises blood pressure and makes you sweat more.
2. Your mind will stop wandering if you suck on some dirt.
A. My mind will still wander AND feel guilty about caving.
3. You'll sleep nice and sound with a fat wad.A. You'll wake up feeling like shit, mouth tasting like shit, and dehydrated.
4. Your ADHD (self-diagnosed) will disappear if you suck the skoal.A. I don't fucking have ADHD and if I did, nicotine isn't the cure...stop googling it.
5. You have plenty of time to quit...you're in Kuwait, fuck it, pinch the Cope.A. Being away from the family is the best time to quit.
6. You think you feel bad now, just wait for 6 months from now..it'll just get worse.A. It can't possibly get worse, and if it does, it's still better than jaw removal.
7. You can pinch and post roll, who the fucks gonna know.A. I'm going to know...and I can't believe I'm actually thinking that.
8. Your wife doesn't care that you've quit, she's not paying attention.A. My wife is sick of me telling her I'm quit when I'm not...time to shut up and do it for me alone.
9. Now that you've been dip free a while, your healed. Your gums, your addiction are better now. A dip a day won't hurt. Look, your friends can handle a cigarette here and there.A. Those friends are either 1) headed toward addiction, or 2) Ninja Smoking/Dipping. Law of Addiction states one will never be enough. I can never go back. I must replace nicotine with things that better my mind, my body and my relationships.
10. Give it up already, you know you'll be back.A. I've only came back in the past because I was too weak in the mind to admit to myself that nicotine doesn't have to be a part of every one of life's decisions. I now have the tools to be successful. I have my quit brothers and sisters, I have plenty of information to remind me if I lose my way, and I have my word. My word every single day that for just today, if I do nothing else, I stay nicotine free.
You have the attitude of a quitter
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on October 08, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
Right now I feel like a fucking hipocrite. Trying to help others in their quit and I'm struggling mightily with my own. Day 39 and I feel like total shit. I can't concentrate. I haven't felt this bad in any of my quit days. The addict inside is giving me every excuse to cave. I'm hanging on by every inch of my being. Dammit, why did I ever introduce this shit to myself.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: seagems on October 08, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Right now I feel like a fucking hipocrite. Trying to help others in their quit and I'm struggling mightily with my own. Day 39 and I feel like total shit. I can't concentrate. I haven't felt this bad in any of my quit days. The addict inside is giving me every excuse to cave. I'm hanging on by every inch of my being. Dammit, why did I ever introduce this shit to myself.
Just get through today Wo1miles. This tough time will pass but the addiction won't if you give in. Just get through today. This will pass, but you won't forgive yourself if you give in and you'll just be right back going through the suck again soon if you cave. The toughest part is over, just get through today and do you best to drink water, exercise, chew gum, whatever will help. This will pass.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: steve1357 on October 08, 2011, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Right now I feel like a fucking hipocrite. Trying to help others in their quit and I'm struggling mightily with my own. Day 39 and I feel like total shit. I can't concentrate. I haven't felt this bad in any of my quit days. The addict inside is giving me every excuse to cave. I'm hanging on by every inch of my being. Dammit, why did I ever introduce this shit to myself.
Miles, I just dug out my Intro page and this is the last time I wrote on it:
Quote
Lots of stress and anixity today. Cravings are much higher then normal.

Caving is not an option. I just want to reconfirm my quit and my promise.
Guess what day that was on? Day 36. That was the last major funk I have had. I am sure that more will come. But I got hit hard to right around the same time you did. Just get through today. It gets better, I promise.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: kmm125 on October 08, 2011, 02:45:00 PM
Hang in there wo1miles. Pokerleader and I are here for you. Just stay strong today. You are a quitter. Send Jim a PM if u need anything. You got this!!!!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on October 08, 2011, 02:52:00 PM
To everyone reaching out to me, that is exactly what I needed. I've decided that this day is over and I'm going to worry about my school work tomorrow. I'm a grown ass Army Warrant Officer, reduced to tears over a drug from a leaf. How pathetic. I kept my promise today, but I'm ending this day and will worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Ready on October 08, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
Caving is NOT an Option.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: LLCope on October 08, 2011, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
Right now I feel like a fucking hipocrite. Trying to help others in their quit and I'm struggling mightily with my own. Day 39 and I feel like total shit. I can't concentrate. I haven't felt this bad in any of my quit days. The addict inside is giving me every excuse to cave. I'm hanging on by every inch of my being. Dammit, why did I ever introduce this shit to myself.
Wo1,

This is normal--this is called a funk. Around day 40 they can be tough. You will get through this. Just get through today.

Caving is NOT an option!

Pat yourself on the back for being quit! We are with you brother!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: AgLawyer on October 08, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
To everyone reaching out to me, that is exactly what I needed. I've decided that this day is over and I'm going to worry about my school work tomorrow. I'm a grown ass Army Warrant Officer, reduced to tears over a drug from a leaf. How pathetic. I kept my promise today, but I'm ending this day and will worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Thanks everyone.
Good job! As simplistic as it sounds, from my perspective, you just have to say fuck it and snap out of it. Caving is NEVER an option so why let it fuck with you. From this post, it sounds like you have done just that. - and that is dismiss it. I can relate to that lack of concentration - I can't remember the exact day but it was somewhere around the end of a month or so when FINALLY I was able to be productive at work. So here's the deal, that shit WILL GET BETTER. You don't want to relive those 39 days and it certainly sounds like you are strong enough to avoid that - just press on and this too shall pass.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on October 14, 2011, 04:29:00 AM
Day 45- Went to the doctor today because I haven't been able to concentrate on work or school hardly AT ALL the last few weeks. Having thoughts that I may have masked ADHD or ADD with nicotine for 14 years. Doc offered to give me a NIC patch with some Zyban. I'm cool with the Zyban, but the patch? WTF?!! I haven't had nic in my system for about 42 days. Anyways, taking the Zyban to see if my concentration comes back. I've really been screwing the pooch on work lately. Anything to keep my ass away from the nic bitch. I know some people on here may not agree with using welbutrin or zyban, but I like promotions and submitting quality work so I'll try anything to stay away from thoughts of "the nic will improve concentration" thoughts.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Souliman on October 14, 2011, 06:12:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 45- Went to the doctor today because I haven't been able to concentrate on work or school hardly AT ALL the last few weeks. Having thoughts that I may have masked ADHD or ADD with nicotine for 14 years. Doc offered to give me a NIC patch with some Zyban. I'm cool with the Zyban, but the patch? WTF?!! I haven't had nic in my system for about 42 days. Anyways, taking the Zyban to see if my concentration comes back. I've really been screwing the pooch on work lately. Anything to keep my ass away from the nic bitch. I know some people on here may not agree with using welbutrin or zyban, but I like promotions and submitting quality work so I'll try anything to stay away from thoughts of "the nic will improve concentration" thoughts.
Hang in there Miles. That's great being proactive to seek the help. Being offered nicotine as "medicinal" is a bit frightening though.

What about sleep? How's that working out for you since you have quit? And exercise and diet as well. Have you put any effort towards making solid healthy changes in these areas?
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: LLCope on October 14, 2011, 06:51:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 45- Went to the doctor today because I haven't been able to concentrate on work or school hardly AT ALL the last few weeks. Having thoughts that I may have masked ADHD or ADD with nicotine for 14 years. Doc offered to give me a NIC patch with some Zyban. I'm cool with the Zyban, but the patch? WTF?!! I haven't had nic in my system for about 42 days. Anyways, taking the Zyban to see if my concentration comes back. I've really been screwing the pooch on work lately. Anything to keep my ass away from the nic bitch. I know some people on here may not agree with using welbutrin or zyban, but I like promotions and submitting quality work so I'll try anything to stay away from thoughts of "the nic will improve concentration" thoughts.
I understand the idea of nicotine masking certain disorders or problems, and seek a dcotor's advice before mine, but nicotine withdrawal is a bitch. More often than not it is creating temporary problems not masking permenant problems! You are 45 days in and lack of concentration is normal. When I was around 45 days, I was a fucking mess, but it has improved 90%.----Give it time.

I am learning more and more that doctor's don't know shit about nicotine recovery. Obviously, since this doctor tried to re-establish the disease by offering the very thing that was causing the problem in the first place. Dude seriously, find a new doctor and get better advice. I would seek a second opinion before using Zyban. Time may be all you need.

just my opinion--take it for what it is worth. make your own informed choice.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: azchief32 on October 14, 2011, 12:31:00 PM
Quote from: LLCope
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 45- Went to the doctor today because I haven't been able to concentrate on work or school hardly AT ALL the last few weeks. Having thoughts that I may have masked ADHD or ADD with nicotine for 14 years. Doc offered to give me a NIC patch with some Zyban. I'm cool with the Zyban, but the patch? WTF?!! I haven't had nic in my system for about 42 days. Anyways, taking the Zyban to see if my concentration comes back. I've really been screwing the pooch on work lately. Anything to keep my ass away from the nic bitch. I know some people on here may not agree with using welbutrin or zyban, but I like promotions and submitting quality work so I'll try anything to stay away from thoughts of "the nic will improve concentration" thoughts.
I understand the idea of nicotine masking certain disorders or problems, and seek a dcotor's advice before mine, but nicotine withdrawal is a bitch. More often than not it is creating temporary problems not masking permenant problems! You are 45 days in and lack of concentration is normal. When I was around 45 days, I was a fucking mess, but it has improved 90%.----Give it time.

I am learning more and more that doctor's don't know shit about nicotine recovery. Obviously, since this doctor tried to re-establish the disease by offering the very thing that was causing the problem in the first place. Dude seriously, find a new doctor and get better advice. I would seek a second opinion before using Zyban. Time may be all you need.

just my opinion--take it for what it is worth. make your own informed choice.
LL...sometime the "Swear to God it will get betters" from the vets are some of the few things that keep me going. Like Miles, I feel I am screwing the pooch at work. My job isn't brain surgery but somebody else's safety is highly dependent on my being able to pay attention to detail. The fog is bending me over the table right now.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: azchief32 on October 14, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: LLCope
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 45- Went to the doctor today because I haven't been able to concentrate on work or school hardly AT ALL the last few weeks. Having thoughts that I may have masked ADHD or ADD with nicotine for 14 years. Doc offered to give me a NIC patch with some Zyban. I'm cool with the Zyban, but the patch? WTF?!! I haven't had nic in my system for about 42 days. Anyways, taking the Zyban to see if my concentration comes back. I've really been screwing the pooch on work lately. Anything to keep my ass away from the nic bitch. I know some people on here may not agree with using welbutrin or zyban, but I like promotions and submitting quality work so I'll try anything to stay away from thoughts of "the nic will improve concentration" thoughts.
I understand the idea of nicotine masking certain disorders or problems, and seek a dcotor's advice before mine, but nicotine withdrawal is a bitch. More often than not it is creating temporary problems not masking permenant problems! You are 45 days in and lack of concentration is normal. When I was around 45 days, I was a fucking mess, but it has improved 90%.----Give it time.

I am learning more and more that doctor's don't know shit about nicotine recovery. Obviously, since this doctor tried to re-establish the disease by offering the very thing that was causing the problem in the first place. Dude seriously, find a new doctor and get better advice. I would seek a second opinion before using Zyban. Time may be all you need.

just my opinion--take it for what it is worth. make your own informed choice.
Miles is in the military and xyban and others is all they know in relation to quitting. The fucker's off nicotine for 45 days and the bastard offers him the patch? For all of you who want single-payer healthcare, the military and their approach is what you'll get. How about giving the guy some sleeping pills so he can get 7 to 8 in a night. Just a thought as the last time I saw 8 hours was day 1. I am starting to get a mean-on and feel a healthy rant about to take a dump right now.

five minutes later

Miles...feel your pain as I am in the military too. Tell the Doc, or PA to go get fucked.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Souliman on October 14, 2011, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: azchief32
Quote from: LLCope
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 45- Went to the doctor today because I haven't been able to concentrate on work or school hardly AT ALL the last few weeks. Having thoughts that I may have masked ADHD or ADD with nicotine for 14 years. Doc offered to give me a NIC patch with some Zyban. I'm cool with the Zyban, but the patch? WTF?!! I haven't had nic in my system for about 42 days. Anyways, taking the Zyban to see if my concentration comes back. I've really been screwing the pooch on work lately. Anything to keep my ass away from the nic bitch. I know some people on here may not agree with using welbutrin or zyban, but I like promotions and submitting quality work so I'll try anything to stay away from thoughts of "the nic will improve concentration" thoughts.
I understand the idea of nicotine masking certain disorders or problems, and seek a dcotor's advice before mine, but nicotine withdrawal is a bitch. More often than not it is creating temporary problems not masking permenant problems! You are 45 days in and lack of concentration is normal. When I was around 45 days, I was a fucking mess, but it has improved 90%.----Give it time.

I am learning more and more that doctor's don't know shit about nicotine recovery. Obviously, since this doctor tried to re-establish the disease by offering the very thing that was causing the problem in the first place. Dude seriously, find a new doctor and get better advice. I would seek a second opinion before using Zyban. Time may be all you need.

just my opinion--take it for what it is worth. make your own informed choice.
LL...sometime the "Swear to God it will get betters" from the vets are some of the few things that keep me going. Like Miles, I feel I am screwing the pooch at work. My job isn't brain surgery but somebody else's safety is highly dependent on my being able to pay attention to detail. The fog is bending me over the table right now.
Chief once you get through this phase, you will be a fucking machine in terms of your focus. Not to mention the increase in stamina, or the more stable moods. The thing that I have most enjoyed is the ability to adapt to different sleep patterns. Shit happens in life and it always seemed to shit on my solid 8. Without the nic, I can role without issues now.

Hang in there brother. You're doing a heck of a job. Fight this. You're more powerful than some shitty little leaf. Own the fucker.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: LLCope on October 15, 2011, 07:20:00 AM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: azchief32
Quote from: LLCope
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 45- Went to the doctor today because I haven't been able to concentrate on work or school hardly AT ALL the last few weeks. Having thoughts that I may have masked ADHD or ADD with nicotine for 14 years. Doc offered to give me a NIC patch with some Zyban. I'm cool with the Zyban, but the patch? WTF?!! I haven't had nic in my system for about 42 days. Anyways, taking the Zyban to see if my concentration comes back. I've really been screwing the pooch on work lately. Anything to keep my ass away from the nic bitch. I know some people on here may not agree with using welbutrin or zyban, but I like promotions and submitting quality work so I'll try anything to stay away from thoughts of "the nic will improve concentration" thoughts.
I understand the idea of nicotine masking certain disorders or problems, and seek a dcotor's advice before mine, but nicotine withdrawal is a bitch. More often than not it is creating temporary problems not masking permenant problems! You are 45 days in and lack of concentration is normal. When I was around 45 days, I was a fucking mess, but it has improved 90%.----Give it time.

I am learning more and more that doctor's don't know shit about nicotine recovery. Obviously, since this doctor tried to re-establish the disease by offering the very thing that was causing the problem in the first place. Dude seriously, find a new doctor and get better advice. I would seek a second opinion before using Zyban. Time may be all you need.

just my opinion--take it for what it is worth. make your own informed choice.
LL...sometime the "Swear to God it will get betters" from the vets are some of the few things that keep me going. Like Miles, I feel I am screwing the pooch at work. My job isn't brain surgery but somebody else's safety is highly dependent on my being able to pay attention to detail. The fog is bending me over the table right now.
Chief once you get through this phase, you will be a fucking machine in terms of your focus. Not to mention the increase in stamina, or the more stable moods. The thing that I have most enjoyed is the ability to adapt to different sleep patterns. Shit happens in life and it always seemed to shit on my solid 8. Without the nic, I can role without issues now.

Hang in there brother. You're doing a heck of a job. Fight this. You're more powerful than some shitty little leaf. Own the fucker.
Chief,

I was just giving miles my opinion--I made it clear he can take it or leave it.

Each person's life situation is different. However, there is one constant. Don't allow your job to end your Quit. Early on, I had the thought, "man, I am going to get fired, because I am not getting shit done". I was unable to concentrate or focus and was barely getting by. I felt like I was going to throw away a 15 year career in marketing. Because of this lie (by the bitch) I was about to go to the store and start banging the can (this was around day 30 something). At that point, I stopped myself and said, "If I have to lose my career for my quit--I am OK with that----fuck it!". It turns out, however, that my boss never noticed my inability to concentrate and focus. Around day 70 normality started to return. Jobs come and go, once you lose your health, it's GONE.

Once again, this is my opinion--take or leave

Keep the good quit going! I am proud to be quit with you!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on October 22, 2011, 02:54:00 AM
Day 53- Feeling strong and not needing the Zyban on a daily basis, mainly just when doing intense detailed work tasks.

I did want to tell a little quit story in here.

I was going through my softball bag for a tournament a few days ago. The last time I played in a softball league was summer of 2007 when I lived in Hawaii. Then before I moved I switched to the Commit Lozenge. In 2008-2010 I was a drill sergeant and didn't really have time for softball. Well anyways, in the deep dark recesses of my softball bag, I found a sealed, glistening can of Skoal Wintergreen Pouches. How very vintage. To make matters worse, they don't sell any kind of skoal pouches out here, just copenhagen, so it was like having a bald eagle land on your erect member...it was rare. Anyway, without so much as a fleeting thought, that can was donated to a current slave and my quit prevales. Amazing how many places I've stashed that stuff over the years. I'm expecting to find more stashing places when we start moving next summer.

Oh well, I remain steadfast in my quit.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Souliman on October 22, 2011, 08:14:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 53- Feeling strong and not needing the Zyban on a daily basis, mainly just when doing intense detailed work tasks.

I did want to tell a little quit story in here.

I was going through my softball bag for a tournament a few days ago. The last time I played in a softball league was summer of 2007 when I lived in Hawaii. Then before I moved I switched to the Commit Lozenge. In 2008-2010 I was a drill sergeant and didn't really have time for softball. Well anyways, in the deep dark recesses of my softball bag, I found a sealed, glistening can of Skoal Wintergreen Pouches. How very vintage. To make matters worse, they don't sell any kind of skoal pouches out here, just copenhagen, so it was like having a bald eagle land on your erect member...it was rare. Anyway, without so much as a fleeting thought, that can was donated to a current slave and my quit prevales. Amazing how many places I've stashed that stuff over the years. I'm expecting to find more stashing places when we start moving next summer.

Oh well, I remain steadfast in my quit.
Glad to hear you stayed the course. Keep at it.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on November 08, 2011, 02:16:00 AM
Day 70- Feeling really good, and normal. I'm stacking the sand bags for the impending war because I know the funk is on its way. But I am prepared, moreso than I was at Day 39 when it hit me really hard. I know I have the tools to fight it, though. It's true that each battle you win against the NIC bitch gives you more weapons in your aresenal, and once you've won that decisisive D-Day-Style invasion, you know that no matter what you can get through anything. Anyone facing their first funk, probably around day 20, 30, 40 or so, you can do it. It's the first real test of your quit. You HAVE to tough it out. Build your aresenal and bust on through. NIC's lies are strongest at this time, resist and defend!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Scowick65 on November 08, 2011, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 70- Feeling really good, and normal. I'm stacking the sand bags for the impending war because I know the funk is on its way. But I am prepared, moreso than I was at Day 39 when it hit me really hard. I know I have the tools to fight it, though. It's true that each battle you win against the NIC bitch gives you more weapons in your aresenal, and once you've won that decisisive D-Day-Style invasion, you know that no matter what you can get through anything. Anyone facing their first funk, probably around day 20, 30, 40 or so, you can do it. It's the first real test of your quit. You HAVE to tough it out. Build your aresenal and bust on through. NIC's lies are strongest at this time, resist and defend!
:)
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: tarpon17 on November 08, 2011, 06:20:00 AM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 70- Feeling really good, and normal. I'm stacking the sand bags for the impending war because I know the funk is on its way. But I am prepared, moreso than I was at Day 39 when it hit me really hard. I know I have the tools to fight it, though. It's true that each battle you win against the NIC bitch gives you more weapons in your aresenal, and once you've won that decisisive D-Day-Style invasion, you know that no matter what you can get through anything. Anyone facing their first funk, probably around day 20, 30, 40 or so, you can do it. It's the first real test of your quit. You HAVE to tough it out. Build your aresenal and bust on through. NIC's lies are strongest at this time, resist and defend!
:)
the quit is strong in this one
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Souliman on November 08, 2011, 06:51:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 70- Feeling really good, and normal. I'm stacking the sand bags for the impending war because I know the funk is on its way. But I am prepared, moreso than I was at Day 39 when it hit me really hard. I know I have the tools to fight it, though. It's true that each battle you win against the NIC bitch gives you more weapons in your aresenal, and once you've won that decisisive D-Day-Style invasion, you know that no matter what you can get through anything. Anyone facing their first funk, probably around day 20, 30, 40 or so, you can do it. It's the first real test of your quit. You HAVE to tough it out. Build your aresenal and bust on through. NIC's lies are strongest at this time, resist and defend!
Outstanding. Pleasure to quit with you today bud.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on November 23, 2011, 12:29:00 AM
Day 85- Why this site works is that when you start your quit, it's the only thing on your mind pretty much every second of the day. You lean on the articles, HOF speeches and constant chatter about the forums. As you progress in your quit, you may become less dependent and only come into the forum to post roll and boogy. At some point, though, you hit a funk and again all you can think about is your quit hanging in the balance. That's when you bounce back hard and get back on KTC to ride out the storm. Then, that funk subsides and you again rely less on the site.

My point is this. This site isn't here to tell you that you need to log 10 posts a day, or have to spend an hour in chat. This site is here to help you and your quit, and people just like you. When you are feeling strong you are expected to reach out and help another person who is funking. That's the responsibility you hold and you must embrace it. There will be times when you need to lean on others and guard your quit, and don't feel guilty about needing the help. We all go through it and it is normal. My group is about to step into the spotlight as December creeps ever so slowly up upon us, and all I can say is that sometimes I was heavily involved on here, sometimes I was hanging on for dear quit, but always...ALWAYS...I stayed true to my word every day that I would not ingest nicotine, and I kept that word for the December Group, for all the quitters (and cavers) of KTC, for my family, but first, last and always, for myself.

Use KTC the way YOU need to in order to keep your quit.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: LLCope on November 23, 2011, 06:34:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 85- Why this site works is that when you start your quit, it's the only thing on your mind pretty much every second of the day. You lean on the articles, HOF speeches and constant chatter about the forums. As you progress in your quit, you may become less dependent and only come into the forum to post roll and boogy. At some point, though, you hit a funk and again all you can think about is your quit hanging in the balance. That's when you bounce back hard and get back on KTC to ride out the storm. Then, that funk subsides and you again rely less on the site.

My point is this. This site isn't here to tell you that you need to log 10 posts a day, or have to spend an hour in chat. This site is here to help you and your quit, and people just like you. When you are feeling strong you are expected to reach out and help another person who is funking. That's the responsibility you hold and you must embrace it. There will be times when you need to lean on others and guard your quit, and don't feel guilty about needing the help. We all go through it and it is normal. My group is about to step into the spotlight as December creeps ever so slowly up upon us, and all I can say is that sometimes I was heavily involved on here, sometimes I was hanging on for dear quit, but always...ALWAYS...I stayed true to my word every day that I would not ingest nicotine, and I kept that word for the December Group, for all the quitters (and cavers) of KTC, for my family, but first, last and always, for myself.

Use KTC the way YOU need to in order to keep your quit.
Well said!

'clap'
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Souliman on November 23, 2011, 06:40:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 85- Why this site works is that when you start your quit, it's the only thing on your mind pretty much every second of the day. You lean on the articles, HOF speeches and constant chatter about the forums. As you progress in your quit, you may become less dependent and only come into the forum to post roll and boogy. At some point, though, you hit a funk and again all you can think about is your quit hanging in the balance. That's when you bounce back hard and get back on KTC to ride out the storm. Then, that funk subsides and you again rely less on the site.

My point is this. This site isn't here to tell you that you need to log 10 posts a day, or have to spend an hour in chat. This site is here to help you and your quit, and people just like you. When you are feeling strong you are expected to reach out and help another person who is funking. That's the responsibility you hold and you must embrace it. There will be times when you need to lean on others and guard your quit, and don't feel guilty about needing the help. We all go through it and it is normal. My group is about to step into the spotlight as December creeps ever so slowly up upon us, and all I can say is that sometimes I was heavily involved on here, sometimes I was hanging on for dear quit, but always...ALWAYS...I stayed true to my word every day that I would not ingest nicotine, and I kept that word for the December Group, for all the quitters (and cavers) of KTC, for my family, but first, last and always, for myself.

Use KTC the way YOU need to in order to keep your quit.
Nice work WO. I appreciate your hard work getting some quit and the help you have given others.

I gladly swim in the quit pool with you brother.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on December 03, 2011, 04:01:00 AM
Day 95- Huge milestone on my road-a-quit. On Wednesday I traveled from my base in northern Kuwait to one in the southern region. The base I am currently located at has very little in the way of amenities. They don't sell things like COMMIT LOZENGES (The original reason for my quit), or good coffee. So I went down to Camp Arifjan for a meeting and stopped into the PX. Walked by the commit lozenges with nary a second glance (small crave though) and straight to the Seattle's Best coffee bags.

It's now official. I no longer feel the need to travel an hour and a half for nicotine. Nope, now I travel an hour and a half for good coffee. While I realize a coffee addiction isn't the best, it certainly pales in comparison to a cancer-causing super turd.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Souliman on December 03, 2011, 06:48:00 AM
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 95- Huge milestone on my road-a-quit. On Wednesday I traveled from my base in northern Kuwait to one in the southern region. The base I am currently located at has very little in the way of amenities. They don't sell things like COMMIT LOZENGES (The original reason for my quit), or good coffee. So I went down to Camp Arifjan for a meeting and stopped into the PX. Walked by the commit lozenges with nary a second glance (small crave though) and straight to the Seattle's Best coffee bags.

It's now official. I no longer feel the need to travel an hour and a half for nicotine. Nope, now I travel an hour and a half for good coffee. While I realize a coffee addiction isn't the best, it certainly pales in comparison to a cancer-causing super turd.
Nice work bro. Freedom is indeed the shit.

Way to bring it superquitter.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Scowick65 on December 03, 2011, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 95- Huge milestone  on my road-a-quit. On Wednesday I traveled from my base in northern Kuwait to one in the southern region. The base I am currently located at has very little in the way of amenities. They don't sell things like COMMIT LOZENGES (The original reason for my quit), or good coffee. So I went down to Camp Arifjan for a meeting and stopped into the PX. Walked by the commit lozenges with nary a second glance (small crave though) and straight to the Seattle's Best coffee bags.

It's now official. I no longer feel the need to travel an hour and a half for nicotine. Nope, now I travel an hour and a half for good coffee. While I realize a coffee addiction isn't the best, it certainly pales in comparison to a cancer-causing super turd.
Nice work bro. Freedom is indeed the shit.

Way to bring it superquitter.
:D
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Parputt on December 03, 2011, 09:59:00 AM
Amazing what you can do when your quit comes from your nut sack instead of some stupid little lozenge ain't it. Way to go bro!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Ready on December 03, 2011, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 95- Huge milestone  on my road-a-quit. On Wednesday I traveled from my base in northern Kuwait to one in the southern region. The base I am currently located at has very little in the way of amenities. They don't sell things like COMMIT LOZENGES (The original reason for my quit), or good coffee. So I went down to Camp Arifjan for a meeting and stopped into the PX. Walked by the commit lozenges with nary a second glance (small crave though) and straight to the Seattle's Best coffee bags.

It's now official. I no longer feel the need to travel an hour and a half for nicotine. Nope, now I travel an hour and a half for good coffee. While I realize a coffee addiction isn't the best, it certainly pales in comparison to a cancer-causing super turd.
Nice work bro. Freedom is indeed the shit.

Way to bring it superquitter.
:D
OUTSTANDING!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: Smokeyg on December 03, 2011, 11:59:00 AM
It's honesty and commitment like this that keeps me going.
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: tarpon17 on December 06, 2011, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 95- Huge milestone  on my road-a-quit. On Wednesday I traveled from my base in northern Kuwait to one in the southern region. The base I am currently located at has very little in the way of amenities. They don't sell things like COMMIT LOZENGES (The original reason for my quit), or good coffee. So I went down to Camp Arifjan for a meeting and stopped into the PX. Walked by the commit lozenges with nary a second glance (small crave though) and straight to the Seattle's Best coffee bags.

It's now official. I no longer feel the need to travel an hour and a half for nicotine. Nope, now I travel an hour and a half for good coffee. While I realize a coffee addiction isn't the best, it certainly pales in comparison to a cancer-causing super turd.
Nice work bro. Freedom is indeed the shit.

Way to bring it superquitter.
:D
OUTSTANDING!
Nice wo! I'll have a double shot and quit with you today!!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: whacko on December 06, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
Quote from: tarpon17
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wo1miles
Day 95- Huge milestone  on my road-a-quit. On Wednesday I traveled from my base in northern Kuwait to one in the southern region. The base I am currently located at has very little in the way of amenities. They don't sell things like COMMIT LOZENGES (The original reason for my quit), or good coffee. So I went down to Camp Arifjan for a meeting and stopped into the PX. Walked by the commit lozenges with nary a second glance (small crave though) and straight to the Seattle's Best coffee bags.

It's now official. I no longer feel the need to travel an hour and a half for nicotine. Nope, now I travel an hour and a half for good coffee. While I realize a coffee addiction isn't the best, it certainly pales in comparison to a cancer-causing super turd.
Nice work bro. Freedom is indeed the shit.

Way to bring it superquitter.
:D
OUTSTANDING!
Nice wo! I'll have a double shot and quit with you today!!
Arifjan huh?!?!?! Traveled in and out of that place a few times! Bought my harley at the AAFES vehicle sales there!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Whole Story
Post by: wo1miles on January 12, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
Day 135- During my last pre-KTC cave I wrote a list of things that I was feeling the morning after that first cave. It's really helped to put into perspective just what will happen if I cave. Yes, I may feel that buzz for a little while, but the side effects last for days with just ONE dip. Is that a good trade off? I don't think so.

Feeling constricted-Muscles feel tense and sore.
Headache- Feels like a hangover.
Dry Mouth- That stuff dries you out quickly
Sore Throat- Chemicals will do that
Aching and/or bleeding gums- Yep, I had 1 cope pouch and my mouth was bleeding like I was eating glass
Guilt- The mother of all.

these side effects physically go away in about 3 or 4 days, but the one thing that you can't get back is TIME. Time between you and the nic bitch. The more time you put between yourself and it, the less your body will yearn for it. The less susceptible you will be to it. Nothing can beat time. Every day that you quit for that day puts that much more TIME between you and it. The fog goes away, the triggers fade, and finding old tins in the garage sets more of a feeling of accomplishment than a triumph because "You just scored free dip!" The new you will need no excuses, time-outs, alone periods or trips to wash your mouth out.

The worse part of a cave is the TIME you've lost. The DISTANCE. The RENEWED, habit-free, you.

Don't waste time.

It's not worth the sore throat.