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Title: Scared
Post by: kms on December 09, 2010, 01:44:00 PM
I am a female that has been dipping for 22 years. I started in college to quit an eating disorder. Now, here I am 22 years later dipping almost all day. I used to run marathons but, due to time I'm down to half marathons. I'm scared of gaining weight, I'm scared to quit,  I'm scared to not quit. I keep thinking that I need to get a plan together but, I can't seem to think straight because it's too scary imaging not dipping. Is there hope for me to take the next step  join a quit group? I have read through the posts  have amazing respect for all of you  will not join until I'm on my first quit day.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Bean on December 09, 2010, 02:19:00 PM
Couple of thoughts...

1) Quit now and join up!!! There is no reason to delay...it won't get any better just cause it is your birthday, Christmas, a Friday or whatever....quit now.

2) It will suck...but embrace the suck. The pain is your body healing from years of putting poison in your lip.

3) Substitute working out, seeds, mints, really anything for dipping. I guess you've seen the posts about gaining weight...it didn't happen for me, but I know it can. Anyway, I'd rather struggle with losing a few pounds than have my face destroyed by surgery to remove my jaw.

4) Get professional help on the eating disorders. I don't really know anything about eating disorders, but I know that they are serious.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: chucklehead on December 09, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
You've gotta realize that the risk of not quitting is greater than the risk of quitting. The challenge of realizing that is due to the consequence of quitting being immediate whereas the consequence of not quitting is later in life.

It sounds like you're trying to justify quitting. If so, you've gotta think about it with a long term approach.

But honestly, the easiest way to do it is to believe me when I tell you that after 2 weeks of quitting you will no longer be scared, you will be able to think about the quit much more logically.

If I'm wrong, what's the downside? Realize that you can't be sure, you don't have control, jump in with both feet, throw the can out now and quit.

Just do it. Think about it as being impetuous.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: redyota on December 09, 2010, 03:21:00 PM
Withdrawal ain't fun, but the fear of it is worse than in really is.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Ready on December 09, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
It's gonna suck. No way around that.

Drink the Kool Aid here and keep your word. Soon enough you will be kicking yourself for not quitting years ago. Yup, it's that great when you are no longer a slave.

Check your (Inbox 1) upper right corner of your screen.

P.S. 1043 days ago I was scared shitless to quit as well.


You can do this.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: husky086 on December 09, 2010, 04:02:00 PM
Hi KMS-

I just want to echo some of the things the other guys on the board mentioned, namely: why wait to quit? There is never going to be a "good time" and if you are as hooked by the nicotine as I was, you'll find that there's always an excuse not to start your quit.

I've been clean for 9 days now. I also run. I understand the challenge of finding time to run during your day, but also the fear of what will happen to your body if you quit.

I think that you should turn it around and look at it from another perspective: what will happen if you DON'T quit.

Plus - think about nicotine and it's vascular constricting affects. I've already noticed a huge difference in my lung capacity and running abilities since I quit. It takes a while to get it all out of your system, but you will notice that when you do run, it's much easier.

PM any of us in the March group if you need support and, most importantly, jump into your quit now. What are you waiting for?
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: brianl on December 09, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
Quote from: kms
I am a female that has been dipping for 22 years. I started in college to quit an eating disorder. Now, here I am 22 years later dipping almost all day. I used to run marathons but, due to time I'm down to half marathons. I'm scared of gaining weight, I'm scared to quit,  I'm scared to not quit. I keep thinking that I need to get a plan together but, I can't seem to think straight because it's too scary imaging not dipping. Is there hope for me to take the next step  join a quit group? I have read through the posts  have amazing respect for all of you  will not join until I'm on my first quit day.
If you keep dipping you'll die a horrible death.
Let me say that again. If you keep dipping you'll die a horrible death.

You can do it. How do i know this? Because there are thousands on this site that have done it. Thousands that were just as scared, confused, and addicted as you.
Don't let this control your life anymore.
And as an FYI there are girls on this site too.
The hardest part is taking the first step. If you delay, then it wont happen. You will always have a million and one excuses why it isn't a good time to Quit. I will give you one reason to stop and it's how I started this post.
If you keep dipping you'll die a horrible death.

Feel free to PM me if I can be of any assistance to you.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Skoal Monster on December 09, 2010, 09:29:00 PM
You know whats scarier than quitting? dying

dipping doesn't help with eating disorders , and neither does nicotine.

There is no reason you need to gain weight when you quit dipping. Just don't replace chew with twinkies and slim jims and you oughtta be fine.

Kms, from my side of the fence imagining quitting isn't scary, imagining LOSING the freedom and health and sanity that my quit has given me FROM dipping is scary.

Dip isnt good for anything except keeping you addicted to dip. I will tell you first hand that if you choose to, you CAN quit, and its easier than you think.

What are you scared of?

come on in, the waters fine.

skoal monster 682
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 09, 2010, 10:58:00 PM
Thank you all for your comments  support. I thought about everything that was said  even cried a little. It's amazing how complete strangers can understand so well  care so much.

Although, my husband knows I hide it from him. I used my 14 year old daughter's bathroom so I could hide  dip. So, tonight I moved everything out of her bathroom  into our bathroom. I also let my daughter throw my full opened can in the trash since she said she has been wanting to do that for years. I will join my quit group first thing in the morning so that my day 1 will really be my first full day of no dipping.

I'm scared out of my mind but, I feel stronger knowing that I'm not alone anymore. I promise I will hold up  not let any of you down. I'm ready to be on the other end helping others save their lives like you have helped me save mine.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Greg5280 on December 09, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
KMS,
If you did not open your can when you tossed it I would suggest going to get it, open it, flush it, wash the can out then throw it away.

Do not leave any trace around that you can get ahold of. We all know we have dug through the trash before. There is nothing to be scared of.

Check your inbox (1 )

I quit with you !!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: redyota on December 09, 2010, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: kms
Thank you all for your comments  support. I thought about everything that was said  even cried a little. It's amazing how complete strangers can understand so well  care so much.

Although, my husband knows I hide it from him. I used my 14 year old daughter's bathroom so I could hide  dip. So, tonight I moved everything out of her bathroom  into our bathroom. I also let my daughter throw my full opened can in the trash since she said she has been wanting to do that for years. I will join my quit group first thing in the morning so that my day 1 will really be my first full day of no dipping.

I'm scared out of my mind but, I feel stronger knowing that I'm not alone anymore. I promise I will hold up  not let any of you down. I'm ready to be on the other end helping others save their lives like you have helped me save mine.
Congrats! But if I were you I'd post right now.

You made the decision today, therefore today is day 1.

And since you are now quit, withdrawal is gonna start soon. You may need to make the promise that roll call is to get you through the night.

Welcome to your quit.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 09, 2010, 11:42:00 PM
Done to both! I joined my quit group  think I did the roll call right. I also dug the can out of the trash  flushed it down the toilet. I had to laugh at that one because tonight I would be fine but tomorrow morning when everybody is still sleeping would be another story. God, you guys are good! You'd make good drill sgts. :D
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Seth on December 10, 2010, 01:03:00 AM
'You will not laugh. You will not cry. You will learn by the letter. We will teach you."

Sorry. Seeing the words 'drill seargant' made me think of Full Metal Jacket.

You are right on though. People around here have seen it all. You will not be able to pull the wool over anybody's eyes. But you also will be able to get from support from the only people who actually can understand what you will go through. It will suck, but it DOES get better. Much better. And fast.

If you're struggling, reach out. Hop into the chat room, get some numbers, people will give you the help you need. Because believe it or not, the vets need you and your word just as much as you need theirs.

I quit with Kelly today.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Bean on December 10, 2010, 07:27:00 AM
It's gonna suck. But remember...you're not alone!!! If you just post that you're struggling, your inbox will fill up. Also, there are no shortcuts to quitting. Everybody on here has been through it. So just embrace the suck, and enjoy clean living.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: redtrain14 on December 10, 2010, 08:44:00 AM
Way to go kms!

I promise you won't regret this.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: DeezNutzz on December 10, 2010, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: redtrain14
Way to go kms!

I promise you won't regret this.
Its tomorrow Morning KMS! I know what your going through. and thought I would just say ! YOU GOT THIS! keep that shit out you mouth today! You have a whole new family thats got back! Need a Number--Send me a PM!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Smokeyg on December 10, 2010, 09:31:00 AM
Of course you can make it 5 more minutes....

Of course you can make it 5 more minutes....

Of course you can make it 5 more minutes....
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: KTG on December 10, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
kms,

You are not alone in the way you are feeling. Everyone here thought they were more addicted than then next. Everyone was scared, no one thought they could do it. I was one of them. The fact you are here shows strength and courage, you may not even know you have. You've found the site, now flush your dip and join the fun. I used to live with a chew in, now I have been quit for 163 days. Believe me and I'm sure everyone else here feels the same, if I can do it so can you. There is a ton of info and support here. Use it, I promise you will love the site and you will love being quit. I also don't know a lot about eating disorders but I can see clearly enough to know it doesn't make sense to quit something that's going to kill you with another thing that will kill you. Get through the fog and stop letting nicotine control your reasoning and thoughts. I'll meet you at the other side.

ktg
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 10, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
God this does suck! Was fine until I come into my office this morning. It's just me so I don't think I have ever worked in my office without a dip. But, first thing was to flush the opened can I had here. I'm on my 3rd cup of coffee, along with an opened coke,  2 mints,  gum in my mouth right now... You all make me smile because it's like you read my mind at any given moment. Thank you all  will be strong with you.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: husky086 on December 10, 2010, 10:49:00 AM
KMS - you've taken the first step and that's one of the most important things in your battle against nic.

As hard as it sounds to go the whole day without any nicotine, you can do it. Break it down even further - if saying 24 hours is hard - break it down to hour increments. Tell yourself, "I can last the next hour without a dip." Last the hour, and then promise yourself for the next hour and so on.

If you are close to caving, jump on the chat, post, read, post. take a walk, take deep breaths. Do ANYTHING you can to keep the dip out of your lip.

It's hard, but I promise you, it WILL get better and you will see a huge difference.

Even if you don't think you are strong enough, KNOW that you are.

I was in your shoes 10 days ago. It was HELL, but I did it and I am here to tell you that it is possible!!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Greg5280 on December 10, 2010, 10:49:00 AM
KMS,
Watch out with caffine. Your body will process it differently now. Keep some candy, gum, seeds etc around you. Get some fake chew if you need to. Make sure you drink PLENTY of water. When you think you have had enough, go get some more. IT helps you detox.

Keep your sugar levels even. It will help with the mood swings. When it gets bad, just break your quit into smaller intervals of time. Smokeys advice of 5 more minutes works just fine. Anyone can quit for 5 minutes right ? Then just add another 5. It does work.

Remember every second of your first three days " the suck " and it will help you to remain quit. I suggest getting a journal and keeping track of all the things you go through.

You CAN do this !! Use the tools provided and you will be quit !!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Skoal Monster on December 10, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
You got this KMS, if I can so can you. Below is one of the posts that helped me flip the switch

the link below that is to the Tom and Jenny Kern Story, you owe it to yourself as a parent to read it
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What Price to Save Ourselves?

For over 2 decades, my best quit efforts lasted maybe 10 or so days. Finally, asking myself the right question changed my attitude and made it possible to quit. This quit is not easy, but it is finally in MY CONTROL and (I firmly believe) FINAL.

Previously, I always asked "how can I find the strength to break this addiction? In particular, how can I get through the crushing brain fog that always leads to my demise. I can't stay quit or start quitting right now because I get too brain-stupid to get any work done." THAT QUESTION ALWAYS LED ME TO FAIL because (a) it gave me the choice to fail, and ( it said I had other priorities that I would allow to interfere with quitting. This time, I asked myself a different question. "IS THERE ANYTHING I WILL NOT DO IN ORDER TO QUIT? IS ANY COST TOO HIGH?" Since nobody was asking me to give up my family, I decided the answer was "NO." I therefore decided that I WILL INCUR ANY COST WHATSOEVER TO QUIT. If I must, I will use up all my vacation time to get away from the office until the fog lifts. If I have no vacation time left, I'll call in sick (and I consider addiction withdrawal to be honestly sick). If I run out of vacation/sick time, I'll ask for unpaid leave until my head clears up and while I practice handling fewer stresses without opening a tin. If I can't get unpaid leave, I'll let that job go (and go find a new job AFTER I SAVED MY LIFE). If I can't afford being on unpaid leave or unemployment, I will swallow my pride and ask for help from family  friends, and I will sell my stupid car/house/stereo while I SAVE MY LIFE.

WOW, once I decided that NO COST WAS TOO HIGH TO SAVE MY LIFE, and that I would GLADLY INCUR THOSE COSTS, my whole mental attitude changed. No longer were there any impediments to quitting. Once that was my attitude, quitting was easier than I had experienced in prior efforts. I did have to cut back on my office time (and incur some temporary pay reduction), but nothing drastic. And in the long run, who gives a damn?

See, the real barrier wasn't quitting tobacco -- the real barrier had been what I had not CONSIDERED doing, or had not been WILLING to do, in order to make quitting the absolute #1 priority.

Another example: does quitting make being around the house unbearable? Negotiate leaving for 2 weeks!!! "Honey, I need these 2 weeks in order to give you the rest of my life. This isn't a vacation, this is the old 'stick with me in sickness and in health thing.' It's unfair to leave you with the kids, but I will make it up to you, and you will like the new me much better, and I won't go and get cancer on you.")

I came to this "At What Price" attitude after my wife died. She had been given a terminal diagnosis from hell with no hope whatsoever (Lou Gehrig's Disease). We had wished there was something/anything we could do, but there was not. And she had done nothing to deserve it (no smokes, barely drank, exercised regularly, young).

Now here I was, 14 months after she passed away, giving myself my own terminal sentence. But this was a sentence I had the power to stop. My wife had been denied any such power. So, every time I CHOSE to fill my lip, I insulted the memory of my wife. My wife and I would have paid ANY PRICE to save her: sacrificing job, house, friends, etc.

Once I asked "What Price" to save myself, the answers became rather obvious and easy. This quit is not easy, but now it is only a question of time. The fog still lingers some, but now I just ride it out rather than fight it or let it scare me back to the can.

Hey guys, don't fill the boards with condolences. It's been 15 months and I've come to terms with my loss. But I wanted to share this story to prompt you to ask yourselves, "Is Any Price Too High?" Are you putting artificial barriers (like the job, or conserving vacation days and sick leave, or keeping secrets from your wife) in the way of accomplishing THE MOST IMPORTANT GOAL in your life right now?

Would you quit your job, sell your house and move to a desolate place where you have no friends, all in order to save the life of your child, wife, or father? Of course you would. Now, do whatever you have to do, at whatever cost, to save your own life.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp)
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 10, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
I'm not sure if it's me or the withdrawls or even caffine. But, got very on edge  couldn't work or think straight. Read your post  went out to get some flavoring for my water  the fake stuff. Feel like a failure cause I didn't even go a day! I'm also writing everything down as I go. But, no nic  can at least focus on work. You are a lifesavor!

KMS,
Watch out with caffine. Your body will process it differently now. Keep some candy, gum, seeds etc around you. Get some fake chew if you need to. Make sure you drink PLENTY of water. When you think you have had enough, go get some more. IT helps you detox.

Keep your sugar levels even. It will help with the mood swings. When it gets bad, just break your quit into smaller intervals of time. Smokeys advice of 5 more minutes works just fine. Anyone can quit for 5 minutes right ? Then just add another 5. It does work.

Remember every second of your first three days " the suck " and it will help you to remain quit. I suggest getting a journal and keeping track of all the things you go through.

You CAN do this !! Use the tools provided and you will be quit !!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Greg5280 on December 10, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
You will go through a period of time called the fog. It will be difficult to concetrate, even the easy things will seem harder. You will have mood swings, especially if your sugar levels get out of whack. Your body is fighting to rid itself of the poisons you have been stuffing into it.

Read, read, read. Go to the welcome center and read every post in there. It will help keep your mind busy.

Using fake is not failing. Many quitters look at this addiction as two seperate battles. The first is the NIC addiction. The second is the oral fixation part of it. Get the Nicotine out of your system, then worry about stopping the oral fixation portion. I used fake early on and pretty steadily until about day 200. I still have a can with me everywhere I go. I have not used any in quite some time but if the need ever arsies you can bet your ass I will use the fake !!

You are doing fine... !! One hour at a time, you got this.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: nkt on December 10, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
Don't worry about the fake stuff. The battle isn't with the habit of chewing, it is with your addiction to nicotine. The habit will go away on its own as long as there isn't any nicotine to reinforce it.

My experience was just like Greg described: used the fake stuff a lot for the first 200 days, then the desire to have something in my lip just seemed to evaporate.

You're doing exactly the right thing: quitting minute by minute. Just remember that you only have to go through it once.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 10, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
I better only go through this once cause I won't make it a 2nd time! This is not a good feeling. But, I will make it. I have too - no other options this time.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: redtrain14 on December 10, 2010, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: kms
I better only go through this once cause I won't make it a 2nd time! This is not a good feeling. But, I will make it. I have too - no other options this time.
Remember how you feel now, remember it well and never go back.

Never again, for any reason.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Greg5280 on December 10, 2010, 02:54:00 PM
Kelly,
Here is a post I put in the new groups. Not sure if you are navigating around the site clearly yet so I will put it here for you.
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New foggy quitters,

I have a suggestion for all of you and I have found it to be helpful more than once during my quit. Starting today get a journal and keep track of your quit each day. How you feel, the struggles you are having, the night sweats, loss of appetite etc. Write it all down in vivid detail. When you want to rage get the journal out and write it all down. Even the days when you are so foggy you cannot get a clear thought need to be written in the journal. Hold nothing back. Why you say ?

Here is why; believe it or not there will be a day in the not too distant future, when you will be far removed from the NIC bitches recovery effects. A day when the pain of quitting has faded, you feel great. A day when the fear of physical damages done have subsided. A day when the reasons you quit are not so clear anymore. A day when the whisper of " I have this beaten, I deserve just one" starts playing in your head. "I have this thing licked, I do not need to post anymore" will be your next thought. " I no longer need the site or my brothers" and you wander away and eventually find yourself back in the arms of the bitch.

When those days arrive, and they will, go get your journal out and in your own words read about the misery you endured to get to where you are. Remember every miserable second of it, then get your asses lined back out, get in here and post your promise and stay quit. Always remember you are an addict and you are NEVER cured.


STAY QUIT
Greg
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: jcook on December 10, 2010, 06:05:00 PM
Quote from: NKT
Don't worry about the fake stuff. The battle isn't with the habit of chewing, it is with your addiction to nicotine. The habit will go away on its own as long as there isn't any nicotine to reinforce it.

My experience was just like Greg described: used the fake stuff a lot for the first 200 days, then the desire to have something in my lip just seemed to evaporate.

You're doing exactly the right thing: quitting minute by minute. Just remember that you only have to go through it once.
You are doing great, keep it up....... and yeah, it does suck. Do whatever you have to do not to use, the fake stuff is no big deal, use that, seeds, rocks, hell, whatever, just no dip.... you can do it! We are pulling for you!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Jeeper on December 10, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
Kelly, I am 207 days quit. I used the fake stuff, this website, the quitters (my brothers and sisters) and my family to quit.

Use any resources you can to stay quit. Like others on here I keep some fake stuff. I did not touch any fake from the middle of September until last week.
The holidays and some other crap stressed me out and I decided to use the fake so the cravings would go away. I will be honest, it does very little for me now.
It kicks the craving away but I found I didn't like the taste of it anymore nor did I like it being in that "old spot".

You came to a great place. Everyone on here knows what you are going through.
You can yell at us, cuss us out, do/say anything you want and we will take it as long as you stay quit.

Congrats on making the great decision to quit!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 11, 2010, 10:00:00 AM
I don't know how you guys did it! I'm going crazy. I have a horrible headache, tons of work to do, can't seem to focus,  I'm antsy  grumpy. This is not going as planned! I have my own fraud examination business with me as the only employee  I've got tons of data to analyze for a court date that is too soon - maybe I should have started after it was over.

I thought about getting drugs but, since I'm a female who has been in hiding I don't want anybody to know. We live in a small town where we know everybody  my father-in-law is also a dr. here. Thought about seeing if I could get some online but, I'm not sure I trust those online drug companies. Please tell me this will get better soon....
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Capt Kylos on December 11, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Hang in there it will get better quickly, I promise.....I'm not to far into this thing but I feel better than I have in three decades........I won't lie and say the first 4 days or so were pretty rough....but I figure radiation and chemo would be a lot rougher. PM me if you need a number and stay quit.
Kyle
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Ready on December 11, 2010, 10:21:00 AM
Quote from: kms
I don't know how you guys did it! I'm going crazy. I have a horrible headache, tons of work to do, can't seem to focus,  I'm antsy  grumpy. This is not going as planned! I have my own fraud examination business with me as the only employee  I've got tons of data to analyze for a court date that is too soon - maybe I should have started after it was over.

I thought about getting drugs but, since I'm a female who has been in hiding I don't want anybody to know. We live in a small town where we know everybody  my father-in-law is also a dr. here. Thought about seeing if I could get some online but, I'm not sure I trust those online drug companies. Please tell me this will get better soon....
First of all. Go post roll. Don't think I didn't notice. That will take dip off the table for today and we can deal with the the withdrawls.

It will get better. Guaranteed.

Your quit has to be the number one priority in your life right now. Everything else will have to take care of itself. YES. This is that important.

What helped me... I considered myself completely useless for the first week. I had no expectation of accomplishing anything but staying quit. Anything I did accomplish was gravy.

You can do this.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Jeeper on December 11, 2010, 10:45:00 AM
Drink plenty, I mean plenty of water. That really helped my headaches.

You can do this.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Ready on December 11, 2010, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: kms
I don't know how you guys did it!  I'm going crazy.  I have a horrible headache, tons of work to do, can't seem to focus,  I'm antsy  grumpy.  This is not going as planned!  I have my own fraud examination business with me as the only employee  I've got tons of data to analyze for a court date that is too soon - maybe I should have started after it was over. 

I thought about getting drugs but, since I'm a female who has been in hiding I don't want anybody to know.  We live in a small town where we know everybody  my father-in-law is also a dr. here.  Thought about seeing if I could get some online but, I'm not sure I trust those online drug companies.  Please tell me this will get better soon....
First of all. Go post roll. Don't think I didn't notice. That will take dip off the table for today and we can deal with the the withdrawls.

It will get better. Guaranteed.

Your quit has to be the number one priority in your life right now. Everything else will have to take care of itself. YES. This is that important.

What helped me... I considered myself completely useless for the first week. I had no expectation of accomplishing anything but staying quit. Anything I did accomplish was gravy.

You can do this.
Capt Kylos advised me that you pulled a fog post in January. I'll take that. You will get through the fog.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 11, 2010, 01:08:00 PM
Right now even chemo is looking good. I had no idea it would be like this. I posted roll so I'm sticking with it for today.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: davidf517 on December 11, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
kelly, focus on the fact that you are getting healthy and will live longer for your family AND you. you CAN do it. go run, scream, do anything but cave. IT DOES get better. Be proud of it. you WILL do it today and then post again and do it all over again tomorrow. PM me if you need a number to call or text for support.

davidf517
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: TootsiePopAddict on December 11, 2010, 02:26:00 PM
Kelly,

My doc prescribed chantix...actually works for me very well on the physical symptons and while it costs about the same as chew monthly, I'd willingly pay double. It satisfies the brain's chemical need for dopamine fix while making the nicotine fairly undesirable. I had quit many many times over three decades and this was the easiest physically and I'm now at one month (my longest.) My quit is so much more about the psycological side of dipping than the physical and I find that to be the more difficult but at least the chantix allows me a better fighting chance. jim
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: redyota on December 11, 2010, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: TootsiePopAddict
Kelly,

My doc prescribed chantix...actually works for me very well on the physical symptons and while it costs about the same as chew monthly, I'd willingly pay double. It satisfies the brain's chemical need for dopamine fix while making the nicotine fairly undesirable. I had quit many many times over three decades and this was the easiest physically and I'm now at one month (my longest.) My quit is so much more about the psycological side of dipping than the physical and I find that to be the more difficult but at least the chantix allows me a better fighting chance. jim
You could do that and still be worrying about your physical addiction a month later (and who knows how much longer really), like Jim has chosen to do. Or, you could hold out for two more days, and be done with it completely.

Not sure about you, but the reason I quit involved ridding my life of addictive substances, not just transferring to another one.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 11, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Right now, I'm so confused I can't think straight. I still haven't been able to finish work, make it to the shower, or finish laundry... I'm not sure what I want to do. All I know is that I posted roll call today so if I cave it has to wait until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Jeeper on December 11, 2010, 04:41:00 PM
Try not to think about it. You can do this. PM me if you need another number.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Maverick55 on December 11, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: kms
Right now, I'm so confused I can't think straight. I still haven't been able to finish work, make it to the shower, or finish laundry... I'm not sure what I want to do. All I know is that I posted roll call today so if I cave it has to wait until tomorrow.
5by5 KMS, 5by5 (5 minutes by 5 minutes). You can do this. There will ALWAYS be a reason to not quit - to wait just a little longer. To wait until:

- After the Holidays so you won't be stressed out by the family
- After that next big project at work so you're at your best
- After that big party you friend is having
- After **enter problem here** is resolved

Point being, you can muscle through this, you will muscle through this - because if you don't you will have to go though this again, and no one wants to go through what you're going through again.

Keep your head up, post call, come here and READ everything. I found a significant amount of support in what has been written in the past. If you need a number, PM me.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: brianl on December 11, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
Quote from: kms
Right now, I'm so confused I can't think straight. I still haven't been able to finish work, make it to the shower, or finish laundry... I'm not sure what I want to do. All I know is that I posted roll call today so if I cave it has to wait until tomorrow.
Fuck work. Fuck the shower. Fuck the laundry.
None of that shit matters. Get some sugar free gum, get some sunflower seeds, drink a lot of water. Go run around the block. Whatever it takes.
It can be done. We are proof of it. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
Trust us, it WILL get better.
Bottom line is you're saving your life. Chemo looks pretty good you say?
You won't be saying that when you look in the mirror and you're bald with no fucking lower jaw.

STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: minuteofangle on December 11, 2010, 04:52:00 PM
Quote from: kms
Right now, I'm so confused I can't think straight. I still haven't been able to finish work, make it to the shower, or finish laundry... I'm not sure what I want to do. All I know is that I posted roll call today so if I cave it has to wait until tomorrow.
Ya got BALLS girl! Hang in there!!! Get up early (If you can sleep) and post roll again as early as possible. That way you can not cave on Sunday either. Believe it or not the shit is about out of your system. In another day or two things start getting alot better. You will one day look back on this and know it was all worth it!

PS You have a lot of support and people offering you help and advice...DONT FUCK THEM OVER! Stay close to the site and stay involved for a few more days at least.

MOA
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 11, 2010, 05:08:00 PM
All I want to do is sleep! Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over. I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job! I'd take growing balls to get through this!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: minuteofangle on December 11, 2010, 05:34:00 PM
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep! Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over. I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job! I'd take growing balls to get through this!
Did you say 110 lbs and a boob job? You're growing on me girl :)

'boob' 'boob' 'boob'

Stay Strong

MOA
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 11, 2010, 05:53:00 PM
Yeah, nobody would have guessed that this little blonde could keep up with any man when it came to dipping. Feeling much stronger this afternoon - I can do this. Thank you for being there! But, don't go away yet... :D
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: rock642 on December 11, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: kms
Right now, I'm so confused I can't think straight.  I still haven't been able to finish work, make it to the shower, or finish laundry...  I'm not sure what I want to do.  All I know is that I posted roll call today so if I cave it has to wait until tomorrow.
Fuck work. Fuck the shower. Fuck the laundry.
None of that shit matters. Get some sugar free gum, get some sunflower seeds, drink a lot of water. Go run around the block. Whatever it takes.
It can be done. We are proof of it. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
Trust us, it WILL get better.
Bottom line is you're saving your life. Chemo looks pretty good you say?
You won't be saying that when you look in the mirror and you're bald with no fucking lower jaw.

STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT
Well said brian!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Greg5280 on December 11, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
KMS,
Make sure you read the what to expect page. All of this is normal. Remember I told you to journal all of this shit. Remember every miserable second of it, it will serve you well later in your quit.

Get up tomorrow and post roll. Take dip off the table again and then just ride it out. Soak in the tub, lay in bed, clean, whatever. I really lowered my expectations of myself early on. My main focus was my quit, nothing else was as important.

You will start to feel better soon. Just keep that shit outta your face and you NEVER have to do this again.

See you tomorrow !!

PS.. Boobs rock.. Just sayin !!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Skoal Monster on December 12, 2010, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: kms
Yeah, nobody would have guessed that this little blonde could keep up with any man when it came to dipping. Feeling much stronger this afternoon - I can do this. Thank you for being there! But, don't go away yet... :D
But can a little blonde keep up with quitting? we shall see grasshoppa
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: brianl on December 12, 2010, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep! Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over. I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job! I'd take growing balls to get through this!
I think I speak on behalf of the site when I say we are all behind you 100% in your Quit..........We also want a picture!! hahaha

Stay Quit girl, you can do it.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Fort on December 12, 2010, 08:48:00 PM
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep!  Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over.  I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job!  I'd take growing balls to get through this!
I think I speak on behalf of the site when I say we are all behind you 100% in your Quit..........We also want a picture!! hahaha

Stay Quit girl, you can do it.
Glad you asked for the pic first.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 12, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep!  Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over.  I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job!  I'd take growing balls to get through this!
I think I speak on behalf of the site when I say we are all behind you 100% in your Quit..........We also want a picture!! hahaha

Stay Quit girl, you can do it.
Glad you asked for the pic first.

I will attach one for you on my HOF speech! If I haven't gained 20 lbs by then!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: MikeA on December 12, 2010, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: kms
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep!  Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over.  I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job!  I'd take growing balls to get through this!
I think I speak on behalf of the site when I say we are all behind you 100% in your Quit..........We also want a picture!! hahaha

Stay Quit girl, you can do it.
Glad you asked for the pic first.

I will attach one for you on my HOF speech! If I haven't gained 20 lbs by then!
Please see April 2010, I can make you the Babe of the day!

Quit with you right now!!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 12, 2010, 11:36:00 PM
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: kms
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep!  Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over.  I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job!  I'd take growing balls to get through this!
I think I speak on behalf of the site when I say we are all behind you 100% in your Quit..........We also want a picture!! hahaha

Stay Quit girl, you can do it.
Glad you asked for the pic first.

I will attach one for you on my HOF speech! If I haven't gained 20 lbs by then!
Please see April 2010, I can make you the Babe of the day!

Quit with you right now!!

Too funny! You are on - give me until March 2011
'na na'
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: Jeeper on December 14, 2010, 08:16:00 PM
Very glad to see you are still hanging in there.
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: jcook on December 14, 2010, 09:14:00 PM
Great Job KMS! Proud to be quitting with you!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on December 14, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
Thank you! I know I will have some bad days but, I'm enjoying the feel of not craving the nic right now. Thank you for your support!
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: minuteofangle on February 28, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: kms
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: kms
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep!  Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over.  I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job!  I'd take growing balls to get through this!
I think I speak on behalf of the site when I say we are all behind you 100% in your Quit..........We also want a picture!! hahaha

Stay Quit girl, you can do it.
Glad you asked for the pic first.

I will attach one for you on my HOF speech! If I haven't gained 20 lbs by then!
Please see April 2010, I can make you the Babe of the day!

Quit with you right now!!

Too funny! You are on - give me until March 2011
'na na'
...And I believe it is March and we are looking foreward to the BOOBIES! 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob'

MOA
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: kms on March 04, 2011, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: kms
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: kms
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep!  Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over.  I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job!  I'd take growing balls to get through this!
I think I speak on behalf of the site when I say we are all behind you 100% in your Quit..........We also want a picture!! hahaha

Stay Quit girl, you can do it.
Glad you asked for the pic first.

I will attach one for you on my HOF speech! If I haven't gained 20 lbs by then!
Please see April 2010, I can make you the Babe of the day!

Quit with you right now!!

Too funny! You are on - give me until March 2011
'na na'
...And I believe it is March and we are looking foreward to the BOOBIES! 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob'

I still have 15 days left...
MOA
Title: Re: Scared
Post by: rhester03 on March 18, 2011, 04:36:00 PM
Quote from: kms
Quote from: kms
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: kms
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: kms
All I want to do is sleep!  Keep hoping I will wake up  everything will be over.  I always said I should have been born a guy - even though I'm 110 lbs with a boob job!  I'd take growing balls to get through this!
I think I speak on behalf of the site when I say we are all behind you 100% in your Quit..........We also want a picture!! hahaha

Stay Quit girl, you can do it.
Glad you asked for the pic first.

I will attach one for you on my HOF speech! If I haven't gained 20 lbs by then!
Please see April 2010, I can make you the Babe of the day!

Quit with you right now!!

Too funny! You are on - give me until March 2011
'na na'
...And I believe it is March and we are looking foreward to the BOOBIES! 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob' 'boob'

I still have 15 days left...
MOA
posted on the 4th, and was 15 days away...by my count tomorrow means boobies!