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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: deepbrah on February 23, 2014, 09:06:00 AM
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Hey guys...I chewed for 16 years, am 32 and have a wife and son who is 4 and a half.
Anyway, I quit last Monday, 2/17 and the week's been tough for me.
I toss and turn pretty much all night.
My mouth is dry all night long and sometimes my gums and mouth hurt so bad (normally toward the end of the day).
I could literally cry on demand any time I get a little sad, although I obviously avoid doing that.
I haven't really eaten more than a meal a day in the past week.
Every morning when I wake up, it's because I have to go take a poop.
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The reason I quit was I felt a lump on the roof of my mouth a few weeks ago that never went away. Finally, I convinced myself i was dying, and I've just been a mental wreck since then. I went to the dentist last Thursday and he said everything was fine. He examined my whole mouth, and said there are a lot of ducts in the roofs of our mouths and that I have nothing to worry about.
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Any advice or thoughts?
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Hey guys...I chewed for 16 years, am 32 and have a wife and son who is 4 and a half.
Anyway, I quit last Monday, 2/17 and the week's been tough for me.
I toss and turn pretty much all night.
My mouth is dry all night long and sometimes my gums and mouth hurt so bad (normally toward the end of the day).
I could literally cry on demand any time I get a little sad, although I obviously avoid doing that.
I haven't really eaten more than a meal a day in the past week.
Every morning when I wake up, it's because I have to go take a poop.
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The reason I quit was I felt a lump on the roof of my mouth a few weeks ago that never went away. Finally, I convinced myself i was dying, and I've just been a mental wreck since then. I went to the dentist last Thursday and he said everything was fine. He examined my whole mouth, and said there are a lot of ducts in the roofs of our mouths and that I have nothing to worry about.
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Any advice or thoughts?
Your symptoms are totally natural, we've all been there. You won't die from quitting but who knows if you cave? When you feel like crying, let it out. I broke down several times. When you get pissed, vent here your family doesn't understand or deserve your emotions. One more real concern, now that you have the relief of knowing your mouth is ok the bitch will try to pull you back in for just a little more. Post roll daily. Your in the May 2014 group.
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Hey guys...I chewed for 16 years, am 32 and have a wife and son who is 4 and a half.
Anyway, I quit last Monday, 2/17 and the week's been tough for me.
I toss and turn pretty much all night.
My mouth is dry all night long and sometimes my gums and mouth hurt so bad (normally toward the end of the day).
I could literally cry on demand any time I get a little sad, although I obviously avoid doing that.
I haven't really eaten more than a meal a day in the past week.
Every morning when I wake up, it's because I have to go take a poop.
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The reason I quit was I felt a lump on the roof of my mouth a few weeks ago that never went away. Finally, I convinced myself i was dying, and I've just been a mental wreck since then. I went to the dentist last Thursday and he said everything was fine. He examined my whole mouth, and said there are a lot of ducts in the roofs of our mouths and that I have nothing to worry about.
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Any advice or thoughts?
Welcome. You seem to be going through just about everything i went through except for one which i'll discuss in a moment. My fear here is since you got the good bill of health that you will return to the poison in time.
It's time for you to begin taking this quit to a new level my friend. We post roll daily here. At the top left you'll see the welcome center. Click there and read the information on how and why we post roll. Pay particular attention to why. This is the backbone of this site. You've been on this journey alone for 6 days. Why not add some friends that know what your going through. Note: If you quit on the 17'th your on day 7.
I strongly recommend you begin reading all the information on nicotine/addiction that you can. Begin learning your enemy, it knows you. There is a lot of information on this site. Enough to keep you busy for days. Begin learning the truths about the poison. Knowledge is power. You'll also find a link that will tell you exactly what you'll be going through during this quit....
Now, one symptom you advised about I want to discuss. The symptom of sad/depression.
This one I didn't experience The first week in my quit. I did experience it a little after a few weeks. I'm going to throw out what I believe may be your problem. Could be wrong, so take what you need and leave the rest.
You are sad because you believe you gave up your true love. Whether you know it or not you loved the poison more than anything, including your family and self. Your sad because you feel your missing something.
If you begin reading the information on this site, post roll, get accountable and take this quit more serious than anything you will begin recovering. The poison was never your friend/true love. You will return to a fun and rewarding life in time. The most important rule for you to follow to get your life back is never again for any reason. One is to many and 1000 will never be enough. The longer you go without the poison the better you will feel. If you ever give into just one you will undue everything you have begun. Hope to see you on roll.
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Hey guys...I chewed for 16 years, am 32 and have a wife and son who is 4 and a half.
Anyway, I quit last Monday, 2/17 and the week's been tough for me.
I toss and turn pretty much all night.
My mouth is dry all night long and sometimes my gums and mouth hurt so bad (normally toward the end of the day).
I could literally cry on demand any time I get a little sad, although I obviously avoid doing that.
I haven't really eaten more than a meal a day in the past week.
Every morning when I wake up, it's because I have to go take a poop.
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The reason I quit was I felt a lump on the roof of my mouth a few weeks ago that never went away. Finally, I convinced myself i was dying, and I've just been a mental wreck since then. I went to the dentist last Thursday and he said everything was fine. He examined my whole mouth, and said there are a lot of ducts in the roofs of our mouths and that I have nothing to worry about.
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Any advice or thoughts?
Post roll, be a man of your word and we will support you.
You're experience...has been experienced. We get it. Take your seat in the June group. There is some excellent advice. Read, Read and vent, cry and write you feelings here.
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Hey guys...I chewed for 16 years, am 32 and have a wife and son who is 4 and a half.
Anyway, I quit last Monday, 2/17 and the week's been tough for me.
I toss and turn pretty much all night.
My mouth is dry all night long and sometimes my gums and mouth hurt so bad (normally toward the end of the day).
I could literally cry on demand any time I get a little sad, although I obviously avoid doing that.
I haven't really eaten more than a meal a day in the past week.
Every morning when I wake up, it's because I have to go take a poop.
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The reason I quit was I felt a lump on the roof of my mouth a few weeks ago that never went away. Finally, I convinced myself i was dying, and I've just been a mental wreck since then. I went to the dentist last Thursday and he said everything was fine. He examined my whole mouth, and said there are a lot of ducts in the roofs of our mouths and that I have nothing to worry about.
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Any advice or thoughts?
There is good news.
--it will get better
--one day is all that you need to worry about
--since you quit, you will never have to live through this hell again
You've got a great intro that a lot of us can relate to. You'll get a lot if replies from people that were in your shoes not so long ago (including me.). They are all gonna say the same thing...
Post roll first thing every day, before taking the dog out, feeding the kids, anything! Then keep your word for the day.
Read a lot on here. Learn your opponent. Understand that what you are experiencing is normal and is caused by the withdrawal from earths most addictive substance. By the way, a can has nicotine = 3 packs of cigarettes. Did you know that?
Make connections. Get phone numbers. And when you need a shoulder to lean on or feel like you are about to lose your shit, reach out. W
Everyone is gonna say the same thing, because it works. Nothing else does. Post your word. Keep your word. My number is in your inbox. Welcome aboard - you can do this!
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Hey guys...I chewed for 16 years, am 32 and have a wife and son who is 4 and a half.
Anyway, I quit last Monday, 2/17 and the week's been tough for me.
I toss and turn pretty much all night.
My mouth is dry all night long and sometimes my gums and mouth hurt so bad (normally toward the end of the day).
I could literally cry on demand any time I get a little sad, although I obviously avoid doing that.
I haven't really eaten more than a meal a day in the past week.
Every morning when I wake up, it's because I have to go take a poop.
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The reason I quit was I felt a lump on the roof of my mouth a few weeks ago that never went away. Finally, I convinced myself i was dying, and I've just been a mental wreck since then. I went to the dentist last Thursday and he said everything was fine. He examined my whole mouth, and said there are a lot of ducts in the roofs of our mouths and that I have nothing to worry about.
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Any advice or thoughts?
I had many scares with issues in my mouth I thought were from dipping. Each time the went away or after I got a clean bill of health, I continued to chew. I even spent the money to do a test for cancer at the dentist, I think it was over $100 bucks, I came back clean and literally put a dip in as I was walking out of the dentist office. I will tell you this and agree with all the KTC gang, it is a false sense of relief, nicotine will call you back again and again. Don't listen! I had all kinds of symptoms after I quit. I had heartburn so bad I thought it was a heart attack. I have never slept better since I quit so that's different for me.. As far as depression goes, make sure you keep talking about it to someone. It might be from quitting it or it might not. Go on and pst your role call everyday and read all the names of others who also. If we an do it, you can do it.
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Thanks guys. I'll check the roll call tonight and get in there. (edit: OK I posted up in the roll call -- my date is off because I'm on day 6 already when I signed up for the site)
I can honestly say that 100%, without a doubt, I'm never going to put a chew in my mouth ever again. There is no doubt in my mind.
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EDIT: One more thing -- I would chew 2-3 cans A DAY. I blame the whole Skoal 2-packs for that. I used to just stop at the store and get a can a day...then they conveniently came in packs of 2 to save a dollar. Toward the end there, it was completely out of control.
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The truth is, I thought I was dying so bad, and pictured my wife and son alone and it destroyed me. I'm crying as I write this. I would get in the shower and just cry. I honestly was convinced that I was dying.
I never had a father...and I've had friends who had bad fathers. I always considered myself lucky to have no father than a bad one. Since I had a son, I vowed to be the best Dad to my son that I could possibly be. I thought that through selfishly chewing I took that away from my innocent son. Any time that thought pops into my head, I could literally, and immediately, hit the ground in a full breakdown.
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So yes, I am not going to chew, ever, that is a given, 100%. My fear would be nicotine patches or Smoking or something similar.
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Something else I've noticed, if I get teary eyed, my mouth hurts...which I think it's always been like that, all my life. And of course it's nearly 60 degrees this week, which is playing havoc on my allergies. I've been a hypochondriac my entire life, so any time I get a symptom, I pretty much think I'm dying. The sad and brutally honest fact to that is even hypochondriac's get cancer and f'in die.
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One more thing -- How do we get the threads to show up like normal? I am getting the first post in a thread showing up at the end of the pages -- like on page 2, 3, 4, and so on. So the latest post is being displayed at the very top of page 1.
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I don't know how thread thing works. I'm not a tech guy, but I know this, i tried the gum and all it did was transfer my addiction from one delivery system to another. You are not quit while you are on gum or patches or whatever. That thought leaves an opening for full blown relapse to dip. Get pissed at the addiction, cry if you need to, but fight like Grizzly protecting her cubs to stay quit
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Brah, Since you enter the HOF in May, you're in the May 2014 group. Welcome aboard, no nicotine of any kind!
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I can honestly say that 100%, without a doubt, I'm never going to put a chew in my mouth ever again. There is no doubt in my mind.
Don't worry about anything but today, that is big enough of a challenge.
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Thanks guys. I'll check the roll call tonight and get in there. (edit: OK I posted up in the roll call -- my date is off because I'm on day 6 already when I signed up for the site)
I can honestly say that 100%, without a doubt, I'm never going to put a chew in my mouth ever again. There is no doubt in my mind.
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EDIT: One more thing -- I would chew 2-3 cans A DAY. I blame the whole Skoal 2-packs for that. I used to just stop at the store and get a can a day...then they conveniently came in packs of 2 to save a dollar. Toward the end there, it was completely out of control.
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The truth is, I thought I was dying so bad, and pictured my wife and son alone and it destroyed me. I'm crying as I write this. I would get in the shower and just cry. I honestly was convinced that I was dying.
I never had a father...and I've had friends who had bad fathers. I always considered myself lucky to have no father than a bad one. Since I had a son, I vowed to be the best Dad to my son that I could possibly be. I thought that through selfishly chewing I took that away from my innocent son. Any time that thought pops into my head, I could literally, and immediately, hit the ground in a full breakdown.
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So yes, I am not going to chew, ever, that is a given, 100%. My fear would be nicotine patches or Smoking or something similar.
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Something else I've noticed, if I get teary eyed, my mouth hurts...which I think it's always been like that, all my life. And of course it's nearly 60 degrees this week, which is playing havoc on my allergies. I've been a hypochondriac my entire life, so any time I get a symptom, I pretty much think I'm dying. The sad and brutally honest fact to that is even hypochondriac's get cancer and f'in die.
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One more thing -- How do we get the threads to show up like normal? I am getting the first post in a thread showing up at the end of the pages -- like on page 2, 3, 4, and so on. So the latest post is being displayed at the very top of page 1.
Post roll every day.Visit the welcome center... this is very important that you learn to use the tools here.
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One more thing -- How do we get the threads to show up like normal? I am getting the first post in a thread showing up at the end of the pages -- like on page 2, 3, 4, and so on. So the latest post is being displayed at the very top of page 1.
That is how it is supposed to work on this site. Welcome! READ!!!
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Thanks guys. I'm feeling a bit better already just from joining. Like-minded people always seem to help. Keep the support coming please.
If you had similar symptoms to mine, post something, anything so I can read through it when I'm struggling.
Thanks.
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My advice -
Stay quit .....
Get the sore in your mouth checked out .
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Thanks guys. I'm feeling a bit better already just from joining. Like-minded people always seem to help. Keep the support coming please.
If you had similar symptoms to mine, post something, anything so I can read through it when I'm struggling.
Thanks.
Well, you've obviously been on the website today, however, I don't see your name under the June roll call. Get over there, click on quote, cut/paste from the big box below to the big box on top, then add your name to the new quitters. Click 'add reply' and you're done. Do that every day and make it the most critical and important thing you do for that day. Why? because 1) it's the KTC creed 2) as silly as it seems, it works 3) you won't be only accountable to yourself, but thousands here at KTC. You may as well start wearing a "I Quit Dip" t-shirt for everyone to see because that is now the magnitude of your proclamation of quit. There are many reasons we post roll, it's importance differs for each, but we all agree on it's importance. Quit hard today. You'll never wake up the next day wishing you had caved (not my words).
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Thanks guys. I'm feeling a bit better already just from joining. Like-minded people always seem to help. Keep the support coming please.
If you had similar symptoms to mine, post something, anything so I can read through it when I'm struggling.
Thanks.
Lot to read on the site. Hof speeches, words of wisdom wild card section. You'll also find a lot of facts about the poison. I also recommend reading through other individuals intros, especially people that have been where you are. 1 year, 2 years and so on.
Don't let the poison surprise you anymore. It's time you got the upper hand. Glad to be quit with you.
Ps. If your on day 7 with no nic your in may group.
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Honestly, I think I've had such a hard time because I was coming down with something...My son won't eat now either and has a fever. He says his mouth hurts and throat hurts...and when I looked in his mouth with a flashlight, it looks like mine, like really "sensitive" looking or something.
He also had one of those little clear ball things under his tongue he was complaining about...I know everyone here has had one of those...so oddly enough it's like we're going through the same thing or something.
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Honestly, I think I've had such a hard time because I was coming down with something...My son won't eat now either and has a fever. He says his mouth hurts and throat hurts...and when I looked in his mouth with a flashlight, it looks like mine, like really "sensitive" looking or something.
He also had one of those little clear ball things under his tongue he was complaining about...I know everyone here has had one of those...so oddly enough it's like we're going through the same thing or something.
The illness might not be helping much, but you are having a hard time because you are battling an addiction to the most addictive substance on earth. You've fed the addiction to a powerful (and lethal) neurotoxin for years and now you are learning to live as a free man.
The sooner you accept this and get some anger under your belt for what this addiction has taken from you and your family, the better.
Get well soon, to you and your son!
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You are fine, your symptoms from the quit have been experienced by literally 100's -1000's of others here on KTC. Stay focused for the fight right now, don't worry about tomorrow or what happens next. You only worry about your quit, the rest will resolve itself in time. We quit ODAAT here at KTC. I quit with you today........
P.s. Unless you are a doctor quit diagnosing yours and your sons illnesses, let the pros handle that because it only causes you undue stress. Welcome aboard
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The day is dragging. I'm in bad shape today. Got up at 8...figured I could get some stuff done before I had to leave at 11:30 but I've done nothing but sit here.
I find myself just googling nicotine withdrawl and other random stuff...
This road is a rough one. I just want to feel normal again.
Thinking about being depressed is so depressing. I need to get my mind off this whole thing.
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The day is dragging. I'm in bad shape today. Got up at 8...figured I could get some stuff done before I had to leave at 11:30 but I've done nothing but sit here.
I find myself just googling nicotine withdrawl and other random stuff...
This road is a rough one. I just want to feel normal again.
Thinking about being depressed is so depressing. I need to get my mind off this whole thing.
Time goes glacial when you're in the suck. Get out and do something physical. Exercise, gym, push-ups, take a long walk. The nic bitch loves to prey on guys that sit idle. Beat her now with physical activity! You can do this man.
ZC
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The day is dragging. I'm in bad shape today. Got up at 8...figured I could get some stuff done before I had to leave at 11:30 but I've done nothing but sit here.
I find myself just googling nicotine withdrawl and other random stuff...
This road is a rough one. I just want to feel normal again.
Thinking about being depressed is so depressing. I need to get my mind off this whole thing.
You are in the heart of the SUCK. We have all been there, it will pass and start to get better....you have to push through and make it today! Just today!
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If you had similar symptoms to mine, post something, anything so I can read through it when I'm struggling.
First thing....it gets better. It's not always easy, especially at first, but it get better. It gets easier. But you have to keep on posting roll and keeping your word. IT GETS BETTER.
Second, it's always good to have people responding to your thread. But there's no reason to wait for those responses. Start digging into other threads, other intro's, other HOF speeches, etc. You will find a LOT of inspiration in what others have posted about their struggles and victories. If you read, you will find that EVERYONE has gone through exactly what you are going through. You will find that no one takes control of their addiction without effort, significant discomfort and mental struggle. You will find out that no one's addiction is beyond their ability to control. You will find out that it gets better, the fog does lift. That's good news.
Third, That lump in your throat will turn out to be nothing and go away. That flu will be over in less than a week. Why am I saying this? Because your mind will start saying "see, you were just being silly....you freaked out for nothing...you showed some restraint by cutting back for a few days...so why not celebrate with a chew?...You're not gonna go back full time...Just one. After all, you deserve it after all the stress you've been through." I know because I was you. We were all you. Be ready brother. It will get easier, but you have to be ready.
Post roll, and keep your word. Read, read, read. One day at a time.
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If you had similar symptoms to mine, post something, anything so I can read through it when I'm struggling.
First thing....it gets better. It's not always easy, especially at first, but it get better. It gets easier. But you have to keep on posting roll and keeping your word. IT GETS BETTER.
Second, it's always good to have people responding to your thread. But there's no reason to wait for those responses. Start digging into other threads, other intro's, other HOF speeches, etc. You will find a LOT of inspiration in what others have posted about their struggles and victories. If you read, you will find that EVERYONE has gone through exactly what you are going through. You will find that no one takes control of their addiction without effort, significant discomfort and mental struggle. You will find out that no one's addiction is beyond their ability to control. You will find out that it gets better, the fog does lift. That's good news.
Third, That lump in your throat will turn out to be nothing and go away. That flu will be over in less than a week. Why am I saying this? Because your mind will start saying "see, you were just being silly....you freaked out for nothing...you showed some restraint by cutting back for a few days...so why not celebrate with a chew?...You're not gonna go back full time...Just one. After all, you deserve it after all the stress you've been through." I know because I was you. We were all you. Be ready brother. It will get easier, but you have to be ready.
Post roll, and keep your word. Read, read, read. One day at a time.
What Zam said. And if one day at a time is too big of a bite to swallow, take it one hour or one minute at a time. You've got to get out of your own head sometimes.
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Get yourself some of the fake stuff -- smoakey mountain , gum , sun flower seeds
The first few days are the worst .. I am on day 6 and feel quite good at this point /// previously 3 to 5 cans a weeks - kodiak
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The day is dragging. I'm in bad shape today. Got up at 8...figured I could get some stuff done before I had to leave at 11:30 but I've done nothing but sit here.
I find myself just googling nicotine withdrawl and other random stuff...
This road is a rough one. I just want to feel normal again.
Thinking about being depressed is so depressing. I need to get my mind off this whole thing.
You want to feel normal keep the poison out. Normal people don't depend on this disgusting addiction to make it through the day. Reality,, we are not normal and probably will never be, but one day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. Keep your head pointed forward, nothing back there (Sm).
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The day is dragging. I'm in bad shape today. Got up at 8...figured I could get some stuff done before I had to leave at 11:30 but I've done nothing but sit here.
I find myself just googling nicotine withdrawl and other random stuff...
This road is a rough one. I just want to feel normal again.
Thinking about being depressed is so depressing. I need to get my mind off this whole thing.
You want to feel normal keep the poison out. Normal people don't depend on this disgusting addiction to make it through the day. Reality,, we are not normal and probably will never be, but one day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. Keep your head pointed forward, nothing back there (Sm).
Go get some exercise and report back. You will feel much better.
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The day is dragging. I'm in bad shape today. Got up at 8...figured I could get some stuff done before I had to leave at 11:30 but I've done nothing but sit here.
I find myself just googling nicotine withdrawl and other random stuff...
This road is a rough one. I just want to feel normal again.
Thinking about being depressed is so depressing. I need to get my mind off this whole thing.
You want to feel normal keep the poison out. Normal people don't depend on this disgusting addiction to make it through the day. Reality,, we are not normal and probably will never be, but one day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. Keep your head pointed forward, nothing back there (Sm).
Go get some exercise and report back. You will feel much better.
5,840 days of poisoning your brain versus 7 days of freedom. You are killing it man! Focus on getting through today only. The next minute. The next hour. You can do this. And you will never have to go through a day 7 again.
Use this site. There is a shitload of info. Keep your mind distracted by learning what you are battling and how you will win.
Have you reached out to anyone? Do you have any numbers saved in your phone? Build a winning game plan with as many layers if accountability as you possibly can. The more people on your team, and the more teams you are on... The better.
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The day is dragging. I'm in bad shape today. Got up at 8...figured I could get some stuff done before I had to leave at 11:30 but I've done nothing but sit here.
I find myself just googling nicotine withdrawl and other random stuff...
This road is a rough one. I just want to feel normal again.
Thinking about being depressed is so depressing. I need to get my mind off this whole thing.
You want to feel normal keep the poison out. Normal people don't depend on this disgusting addiction to make it through the day. Reality,, we are not normal and probably will never be, but one day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. Keep your head pointed forward, nothing back there (Sm).
Go get some exercise and report back. You will feel much better.
5,840 days of poisoning your brain versus 7 days of freedom. You are killing it man! Focus on getting through today only. The next minute. The next hour. You can do this. And you will never have to go through a day 7 again.
Use this site. There is a shitload of info. Keep your mind distracted by learning what you are battling and how you will win.
Have you reached out to anyone? Do you have any numbers saved in your phone? Build a winning game plan with as many layers if accountability as you possibly can. The more people on your team, and the more teams you are on... The better.
Stay in the game......going back to cancer dirt won't help.....we know it sucks we have all been there.....it will get better and it is so worth it!! I had a lot of your symptoms....developed a lump in my lip that I was sure was cancer.... My jaw hurt, mouth and gums hurt.....etc. yet I literally felt like a close friend had died....I wanted to be dip free when the cancer diagnosis came in.....it ended up the lump went away and I have a clean bill of health. By the I was pissed at nicotine and fought like hell with a lot of help from the people here. Today I'm healthy, happy and clean At day 127, and it gets better.....do not give up and take it one day at a time
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The day is dragging. I'm in bad shape today. Got up at 8...figured I could get some stuff done before I had to leave at 11:30 but I've done nothing but sit here.
I find myself just googling nicotine withdrawl and other random stuff...
This road is a rough one. I just want to feel normal again.
Thinking about being depressed is so depressing. I need to get my mind off this whole thing.
You want to feel normal keep the poison out. Normal people don't depend on this disgusting addiction to make it through the day. Reality,, we are not normal and probably will never be, but one day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. Keep your head pointed forward, nothing back there (Sm).
Go get some exercise and report back. You will feel much better.
5,840 days of poisoning your brain versus 7 days of freedom. You are killing it man! Focus on getting through today only. The next minute. The next hour. You can do this. And you will never have to go through a day 7 again.
Use this site. There is a shitload of info. Keep your mind distracted by learning what you are battling and how you will win.
Have you reached out to anyone? Do you have any numbers saved in your phone? Build a winning game plan with as many layers if accountability as you possibly can. The more people on your team, and the more teams you are on... The better.
Stay in the game......going back to cancer dirt won't help.....we know it sucks we have all been there.....it will get better and it is so worth it!!
deepbrah, hang in there buddy. ODAAT. You can do this. Things get so much better. Your little son deserves a free and clean Dad! ;Ironman:
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DB, how goes it?
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DB, how goes it?
It's going. I'm still stressing out about little things. Trying to keep myself busy. My digestive system is still a mess. But no nicotine...If I get my appetite back I'll start hitting the gym. But I'm afraid to burn calories I'm not even eating.
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DB, how goes it?
It's going. I'm still stressing out about little things. Trying to keep myself busy. My digestive system is still a mess. But no nicotine...If I get my appetite back I'll start hitting the gym. But I'm afraid to burn calories I'm not even eating.
Here is a brief timeline on how my quit is going, I'm not sure if it's helpful or not but I made it for another new quitter and he seemed to like it.
The good news is that you understand how to use your tools and you have some good fight in you. The better news is that it gets so much easier very quickly. Now, I realize that "quickly" is a very relative term- as when you are suffering minute to minute, 5 or 6 weeks seem like 100 years. In reality, 5 or 6 weeks is not a very long time.
Keep in mind, I am no expert and I am just going off of what I have experienced the past 218 days. My "suck scale" looked something like this:
Day 1-3: bad fog, my brain didn't work at all. Very little sleep and couldn't take a dump to save my life. I wanted a dip every second of each day.
Day 4-10: Pretty much out of the fog but bad, bad cravings and headache every second of the day
Day 11-14: My cruise control days, I didn't think about dipping much and craves were few and far between. Sleeping good but too much.
Day 15-21 Starting to get my energy level back up. Craves about 2-4 per day and short. The first thing every morning, I started to get an empty and sick feeling in my stomach when I thought about not being able to dip. Started losing my temper easily.
Day 22-25 No real changes, cruising along but feeling a little depressed. I started learning how to hate my addiction and was really mad about it.
Day 26- 30: Wow, I was starting to gain a lot of weight. Weird how I replaced Cope with Ice Cream and cake. I don't even eat sweets but here I am 10 lbs heavier. I don't care, I'm not dipping and the craves are mild.
Day 31-38: Freaking fog was back, some nasty craves and my temper way out of control. WTF!
Day 39-60: The roller coaster days. Mod craves followed by no craves, bad temper and mild depression. A difficult time but I was not giving up at this point.
Day 61-73: The best days by far. Seldom think about dip, temper is way better, sleeping like a normal person and just feeling pretty darn good. I am stacking up these good days to recharge my batteries and prepare for the next round of fights".
Day 74- 85: Really good days. Strong cravings when I have too many drinks so I have been careful with drinking. Normal days are now 0-1 crave. My temper has been completely under control for 2 weeks now.
Day 86-99: Zero craves, zero dip dreams and temper under control. The strong craves when I drink are also gone. I am disgusted when I see someone dip. Proudly watching my group hit HOF one at a time; which is just how we quit, one day at a time. My guard is still held high as I know the fight is far from over.
Day 100-135: I am on a high as I have reached my first goal. My guard is held the highest it has ever been in because I will not disappoint all those who have helped me.
Day 136-218: Zero, I mean nadda, zip, nothing as far as craves go. My cardio recovery time is amazing on the bike now and I just donÂ’t dip. I told my wife last night that this is the first time I have ever truly quit. Sure, I stopped for 262 days once but it didnÂ’t feel like this.
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Yeah that's pretty helpful actually. I wish I could explain how I feel, I mean I feel like I'm getting my appetite back but I still can't eat.
Nicotine is such a terrible thing, we all know that now.
I think the depression comes from knowing that I've poisoned my body for so many years and didn't really think about the health of myself or my mouth. I'm afraid that it might be too late. By the time I came to my senses, it would be too late. Imagine that.
Lots of praying, lots of crying, lots of trying to fill a void with something. I've asked God to fill the void. I've asked God to help me fill the void with my family.
At this point, I feel like I need depression help more than I need nicotine help.
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Yeah that's pretty helpful actually. I wish I could explain how I feel, I mean I feel like I'm getting my appetite back but I still can't eat.
Nicotine is such a terrible thing, we all know that now.
I think the depression comes from knowing that I've poisoned my body for so many years and didn't really think about the health of myself or my mouth. I'm afraid that it might be too late. By the time I came to my senses, it would be too late. Imagine that.
Lots of praying, lots of crying, lots of trying to fill a void with something. I've asked God to fill the void. I've asked God to help me fill the void with my family.
At this point, I feel like I need depression help more than I need nicotine help.
The emotional rollercoaster can really mess with you. It's going to take a while for your head to begin working properly. One minute at a time if you have to.
You're making your way to a door. This door is hard to get to and open, but you will get there. Settle in, sharpen your tools and keep your head pointed forward. Make your way to the door and don't let anything stop you. There is no returning to where you came from. Need some digits let me know. Quit with you.
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Yeah that's pretty helpful actually. I wish I could explain how I feel, I mean I feel like I'm getting my appetite back but I still can't eat.
Nicotine is such a terrible thing, we all know that now.
I think the depression comes from knowing that I've poisoned my body for so many years and didn't really think about the health of myself or my mouth. I'm afraid that it might be too late. By the time I came to my senses, it would be too late. Imagine that.
Lots of praying, lots of crying, lots of trying to fill a void with something. I've asked God to fill the void. I've asked God to help me fill the void with my family.
At this point, I feel like I need depression help more than I need nicotine help.
I would encourage you to make a timeline and keep it in your wallet. I had days where I had to read mine 10 times and it helped each time.
I have never had an ounce of depression in my life until my quit. It sucked but it went away too.
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Yeah that's pretty helpful actually. I wish I could explain how I feel, I mean I feel like I'm getting my appetite back but I still can't eat.
Nicotine is such a terrible thing, we all know that now.
I think the depression comes from knowing that I've poisoned my body for so many years and didn't really think about the health of myself or my mouth. I'm afraid that it might be too late. By the time I came to my senses, it would be too late. Imagine that.
Lots of praying, lots of crying, lots of trying to fill a void with something. I've asked God to fill the void. I've asked God to help me fill the void with my family.
At this point, I feel like I need depression help more than I need nicotine help.
I'm not a medical professional nor have I experienced depression like you're experiencing. But we're here to support each other. If you believe you need help with depression, please get professional assistance. Depression can be devastating, seeking help may be your best recourse.
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Yeah that's pretty helpful actually. I wish I could explain how I feel, I mean I feel like I'm getting my appetite back but I still can't eat.Â
Nicotine is such a terrible thing, we all know that now.
I think the depression comes from knowing that I've poisoned my body for so many years and didn't really think about the health of myself or my mouth. I'm afraid that it might be too late. By the time I came to my senses, it would be too late. Imagine that.
Lots of praying, lots of crying, lots of trying to fill a void with something. I've asked God to fill the void. I've asked God to help me fill the void with my family.
At this point, I feel like I need depression help more than I need nicotine help.
I'm not a medical professional nor have I experienced depression like you're experiencing. But we're here to support each other. If you believe you need help with depression, please get professional assistance. Depression can be devastating, seeking help may be your best recourse.
The depression is common. Very. A lot of members on this board get Wellbutrin. If you think it would help - go for it. You jacked up your brain for almost 6,000 days my friend. Day by day you are rewiring. It takes time. I promise that it gets better. One day at a time, do what you gotta do (nicotine free of course) and you will break through!
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Yeah that's pretty helpful actually. I wish I could explain how I feel, I mean I feel like I'm getting my appetite back but I still can't eat.Â
Nicotine is such a terrible thing, we all know that now.
I think the depression comes from knowing that I've poisoned my body for so many years and didn't really think about the health of myself or my mouth. I'm afraid that it might be too late. By the time I came to my senses, it would be too late. Imagine that.
Lots of praying, lots of crying, lots of trying to fill a void with something. I've asked God to fill the void. I've asked God to help me fill the void with my family.
At this point, I feel like I need depression help more than I need nicotine help.
I'm not a medical professional nor have I experienced depression like you're experiencing. But we're here to support each other. If you believe you need help with depression, please get professional assistance. Depression can be devastating, seeking help may be your best recourse.
The depression is common. Very. A lot of members on this board get Wellbutrin. If you think it would help - go for it. You jacked up your brain for almost 6,000 days my friend. Day by day you are rewiring. It takes time. I promise that it gets better. One day at a time, do what you gotta do (nicotine free of course) and you will break through!
Again, I'm def not a medical guy...but I had the blues/depression/funk or something Mon Tues of this week. I've felt better today. I would say that if you still have some stuff going on for more than a few days, go see someone. I had never experienced anything like that but now understand why antidepressants are praised so much. Get the help you need to be the man you were meant to be. You can do this. Quit with you today.
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Yeah that's pretty helpful actually. I wish I could explain how I feel, I mean I feel like I'm getting my appetite back but I still can't eat.
Nicotine is such a terrible thing, we all know that now.
I think the depression comes from knowing that I've poisoned my body for so many years and didn't really think about the health of myself or my mouth. I'm afraid that it might be too late. By the time I came to my senses, it would be too late. Imagine that.
Lots of praying, lots of crying, lots of trying to fill a void with something. I've asked God to fill the void. I've asked God to help me fill the void with my family.
At this point, I feel like I need depression help more than I need nicotine help.
Go to the doctor. Don't try and be a "tough guy" and gut it out.
I tried that. It did not work.
When you quit you need some assists. One is this site. Another may be medical help, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Not everyone gets hit with the depression or anxiety sledge hammer, but I sure the hell did, and it sounds like you are too.
Going to a doctor about it was the best thing I did.
He prescribed some pills to help with the depression, which I'm now off, and I also saw a counselor for some talk therapy. Both were life savers.
Many quitters have taken this path, so don't be ashamed.
Just my 2 cents on the matter...
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I hear you guys, and thanks for the support. Day 11.
I'm just trying to stay busy really...I mean I'm not sure what else I can do.
I go to the gym every day and do a medium to fast paced walk on 8-10% incline every day for about 20-25 minutes but haven't really lifted weights yet. I tried yesterday but after 2 medium sets on the bench press, I thought I was going to fall over, so I figured I'd leave while I was still standing.
I wanted to share a link to an article about Nicotine Withdrawal -- the good part of this isn't really the article (although it's ok), it's the 600+ comments of people going through what we are going through. It helps me to read through them and maybe it will help someone else, I don't know. But it helps me feel better.
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-are-sympto ... drawal.htm (http://www.wisegeek.org/what-are-symptoms-of-nicotine-withdrawal.htm)
(EDIT: the way I do it is this: bookmark the page, then when you're feeling down or abnormal, read through as many of the comments as you want. Then when you're done, click your bookmarks, properties, and change to the number of the post you stopped reading at. That way you can pick up where you left off.
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I picked up some bacc off Extra Wintergreen, which is made from tea leaves, which feels almost like cheating to use. I mean on one hand, I went so long without anything in my mouth, but on the other hand, I feel like I'm having a hard time, so why deal with multiple issues at once...chew on some tea leaves.
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Anyway, the days are still rough *IF I focus on that aspect. When I can distract myself and focus on other things, all seems normal.
The fog has lifted for the most part, although I still catch myself in bouts of fogginess from time to time.
My sleep schedule is still out of whack and my digestive system is NOT where it should be. I partially blame this on nicotine withdrawal and partially on the anxiety caused by the nicotine withdrawal.
And as far as depression goes, I wouldn't so much say my problem has been depression at all. I feel like it's more of an anxiety thing. I don't even know how my adult body handles anxiety to be honest. I started chewing when I was 16, and before that I smoked for a couple years, so I really have never been an adult and not been under the influence of nicotine, which could have been masking my anxiety. That's depressing.
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Oh well, I'm just hoping the weather becomes nicer soon. Nothing like some sunshine and 65 degree weather to make your troubles go away.
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Brah,
Do you have other quitters' contact info for your support network?
A middle of the day text can make a big difference!
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I completely forgot texting existed there. I would like that though...I'll have to go through my inbox when everyone goes to sleep and reply with my number so people can text me. I think 1 or 2 people gave me their numbers.
Feel free to give me yours now so I can add it tonight.
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Alright, I've got a texting crew established. Thanks guys.
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Day 12 (could be 13, can't remember)...I may have been counting incorrectly. It depends if you count Monday INTO Tuesday as a day or if you count Monday as a day, then Tuesday as a day, etc. Either way, I'm going to officially call today day 12.
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SMOKEY MOUNTAIN
So I've gone through 3 cans of Smokey Mountain Wintergreen.
The stuff is awesome. Like I go to buy it, double check that it's tobacco free before I buy it. Then get in the car, triple check to make sure it's tobacco free before I put one in. Then after I've had one in for a minute, I find myself checking again, just to make sure the clerk didn't slip me the wrong thing.
A couple things to note:
Before, I would chew CONSTANTLY -- at work...I had a coffee cup and I had a coffee cup -- one filled with coffee, the other was a spitter in disguise. Not a cheap one, mind you, a full on $20 coffee cup that was my spitter.
If it was 11:00 PM and I noticed I had one dip left, I ran to the store. If it was too late, I could not save that last dip til tomorrow, I would chew it, then put it back in the can so I had *something* for the morning.
If snow was in the forecast, you had better believe I had enough chew for the next 4 days, without a doubt, 100%, never failed I had a stock pile.
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Now, with the fake stuff, I ran out last night at like 9PM -- did my night time ritual, got up this morning, played with my son, went to his soccer game, came home, played more, and didn't get a chance to make it to the store until I went to the gym around 4:30PM -- so I stopped and grabbed a can so that I could relax tonight with my homework.
So yes, I find that using fake chew is a "crutch" if you will, but it's not an obsessive addiction like nicotine was. All those times I (we) say we're in control, we're not. The nic controls YOU. Believe that shit or not, it's 100% true.
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In closing, I just want to say I recommend Smokey Mountain (or another brand, I tried 3 and liked Smokey Mountain the best) to anyone quitting dip.
When you spend 16 years with pretty much a dip in your lip constantly, it's hard to deal with losing that and your body's physical withdrawal all at the same time. So use it as a crutch for as long as you need to...a week, a month, a year, the rest of your life...whatever you have to do.
The fact is I'm 12 days clean from nicotine and feeling good about it.
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PROGRESS
My appetite is back as of yesterday and my energy is getting there. I've noticed that while doing cardio at the gym, my heart rate seems to start much lower than it used to when I had nicotine flowing through my veins. I can still get it racing just the same, but it's a good 20 beats lower when I first hop on a machine.
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Alright, I've got a texting crew established. Thanks guys.
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Day 12 (could be 13, can't remember)...I may have been counting incorrectly. It depends if you count Monday INTO Tuesday as a day or if you count Monday as a day, then Tuesday as a day, etc. Either way, I'm going to officially call today day 12.
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SMOKEY MOUNTAIN
So I've gone through 3 cans of Smokey Mountain Wintergreen.
The stuff is awesome. Like I go to buy it, double check that it's tobacco free before I buy it. Then get in the car, triple check to make sure it's tobacco free before I put one in. Then after I've had one in for a minute, I find myself checking again, just to make sure the clerk didn't slip me the wrong thing.
A couple things to note:
Before, I would chew CONSTANTLY -- at work...I had a coffee cup and I had a coffee cup -- one filled with coffee, the other was a spitter in disguise. Not a cheap one, mind you, a full on $20 coffee cup that was my spitter.
If it was 11:00 PM and I noticed I had one dip left, I ran to the store. If it was too late, I could not save that last dip til tomorrow, I would chew it, then put it back in the can so I had *something* for the morning.
If snow was in the forecast, you had better believe I had enough chew for the next 4 days, without a doubt, 100%, never failed I had a stock pile.
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Now, with the fake stuff, I ran out last night at like 9PM -- did my night time ritual, got up this morning, played with my son, went to his soccer game, came home, played more, and didn't get a chance to make it to the store until I went to the gym around 4:30PM -- so I stopped and grabbed a can so that I could relax tonight with my homework.
So yes, I find that using fake chew is a "crutch" if you will, but it's not an obsessive addiction like nicotine was. All those times I (we) say we're in control, we're not. The nic controls YOU. Believe that shit or not, it's 100% true.
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In closing, I just want to say I recommend Smokey Mountain (or another brand, I tried 3 and liked Smokey Mountain the best) to anyone quitting dip.
When you spend 16 years with pretty much a dip in your lip constantly, it's hard to deal with losing that and your body's physical withdrawal all at the same time. So use it as a crutch for as long as you need to...a week, a month, a year, the rest of your life...whatever you have to do.
The fact is I'm 12 days clean from nicotine and feeling good about it.
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PROGRESS
My appetite is back as of yesterday and my energy is getting there. I've noticed that while doing cardio at the gym, my heart rate seems to start much lower than it used to when I had nicotine flowing through my veins. I can still get it racing just the same, but it's a good 20 beats lower when I first hop on a machine.
One day at a time, you will reach a greatness that you didn't know existed before. Go back and read day one... Day two... And see how far you've already come.
Today you should be a proud man. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride.
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Alright, I've got a texting crew established. Thanks guys.
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Day 12 (could be 13, can't remember)...I may have been counting incorrectly. It depends if you count Monday INTO Tuesday as a day or if you count Monday as a day, then Tuesday as a day, etc. Either way, I'm going to officially call today day 12.
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SMOKEY MOUNTAIN
So I've gone through 3 cans of Smokey Mountain Wintergreen.
The stuff is awesome. Like I go to buy it, double check that it's tobacco free before I buy it. Then get in the car, triple check to make sure it's tobacco free before I put one in. Then after I've had one in for a minute, I find myself checking again, just to make sure the clerk didn't slip me the wrong thing.
A couple things to note:
Before, I would chew CONSTANTLY -- at work...I had a coffee cup and I had a coffee cup -- one filled with coffee, the other was a spitter in disguise. Not a cheap one, mind you, a full on $20 coffee cup that was my spitter.
If it was 11:00 PM and I noticed I had one dip left, I ran to the store. If it was too late, I could not save that last dip til tomorrow, I would chew it, then put it back in the can so I had *something* for the morning.
If snow was in the forecast, you had better believe I had enough chew for the next 4 days, without a doubt, 100%, never failed I had a stock pile.
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Now, with the fake stuff, I ran out last night at like 9PM -- did my night time ritual, got up this morning, played with my son, went to his soccer game, came home, played more, and didn't get a chance to make it to the store until I went to the gym around 4:30PM -- so I stopped and grabbed a can so that I could relax tonight with my homework.
So yes, I find that using fake chew is a "crutch" if you will, but it's not an obsessive addiction like nicotine was. All those times I (we) say we're in control, we're not. The nic controls YOU. Believe that shit or not, it's 100% true.
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In closing, I just want to say I recommend Smokey Mountain (or another brand, I tried 3 and liked Smokey Mountain the best) to anyone quitting dip.
When you spend 16 years with pretty much a dip in your lip constantly, it's hard to deal with losing that and your body's physical withdrawal all at the same time. So use it as a crutch for as long as you need to...a week, a month, a year, the rest of your life...whatever you have to do.
The fact is I'm 12 days clean from nicotine and feeling good about it.
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PROGRESS
My appetite is back as of yesterday and my energy is getting there. I've noticed that while doing cardio at the gym, my heart rate seems to start much lower than it used to when I had nicotine flowing through my veins. I can still get it racing just the same, but it's a good 20 beats lower when I first hop on a machine.
One day at a time, you will reach a greatness that you didn't know existed before. Go back and read day one... Day two... And see how far you've already come.
Today you should be a proud man. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride.
Monday is a day. Tuesday is a day. We keep it simple. A day is a day.
You are doing great. Use smokey mt all you need. Totally safe. Use whatever u need as a crutch right now. All that matters is u stay quit today. That is it.
Keep at it. Quit with you all day long.
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Alright, I've got a texting crew established. Thanks guys.
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Day 12 (could be 13, can't remember)...I may have been counting incorrectly. It depends if you count Monday INTO Tuesday as a day or if you count Monday as a day, then Tuesday as a day, etc. Either way, I'm going to officially call today day 12.
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SMOKEY MOUNTAIN
So I've gone through 3 cans of Smokey Mountain Wintergreen.
The stuff is awesome. Like I go to buy it, double check that it's tobacco free before I buy it. Then get in the car, triple check to make sure it's tobacco free before I put one in. Then after I've had one in for a minute, I find myself checking again, just to make sure the clerk didn't slip me the wrong thing.
A couple things to note:
Before, I would chew CONSTANTLY -- at work...I had a coffee cup and I had a coffee cup -- one filled with coffee, the other was a spitter in disguise. Not a cheap one, mind you, a full on $20 coffee cup that was my spitter.
If it was 11:00 PM and I noticed I had one dip left, I ran to the store. If it was too late, I could not save that last dip til tomorrow, I would chew it, then put it back in the can so I had *something* for the morning.
If snow was in the forecast, you had better believe I had enough chew for the next 4 days, without a doubt, 100%, never failed I had a stock pile.
--
Now, with the fake stuff, I ran out last night at like 9PM -- did my night time ritual, got up this morning, played with my son, went to his soccer game, came home, played more, and didn't get a chance to make it to the store until I went to the gym around 4:30PM -- so I stopped and grabbed a can so that I could relax tonight with my homework.
So yes, I find that using fake chew is a "crutch" if you will, but it's not an obsessive addiction like nicotine was. All those times I (we) say we're in control, we're not. The nic controls YOU. Believe that shit or not, it's 100% true.
--
In closing, I just want to say I recommend Smokey Mountain (or another brand, I tried 3 and liked Smokey Mountain the best) to anyone quitting dip.
When you spend 16 years with pretty much a dip in your lip constantly, it's hard to deal with losing that and your body's physical withdrawal all at the same time. So use it as a crutch for as long as you need to...a week, a month, a year, the rest of your life...whatever you have to do.
The fact is I'm 12 days clean from nicotine and feeling good about it.
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PROGRESS
My appetite is back as of yesterday and my energy is getting there. I've noticed that while doing cardio at the gym, my heart rate seems to start much lower than it used to when I had nicotine flowing through my veins. I can still get it racing just the same, but it's a good 20 beats lower when I first hop on a machine.
One day at a time, you will reach a greatness that you didn't know existed before. Go back and read day one... Day two... And see how far you've already come.
Today you should be a proud man. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride.
Monday is a day. Tuesday is a day. And I think Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday are days as well.
Early fog can be rough and days of week get confusing. No worries that is why we are here.
You are doing great. Use smokey mt all you need. Totally safe. Use whatever u need as a crutch right now. All that matters is u stay quit today. That is it.
Keep at it. Quit with you all day long.
WOW !!! The dream team of Quit has assembled at your door. Many of them have been instrumental in my personal Quit success. Listen closely to them as they will guide you thru some of the pitfalls that we have all experienced. Do whatever it takes to stay quit and not use nicotine. Make quitting your number 1 priority. Congratulations on taking your life back .....
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Day 15
So I feel semi good overall, but I'm getting this clicking sound when I swallow. I'm starting to convince myself that I'm dying again. That whole first week, I thought I was dying, and I could barely eat.
My son had the same thing a week ago, so I know I shouldn't be panicking. I'm just trying to keep my mind focused on other things. I also looked it up, and it is something that can be caused by anxiety, which I feel like I was having, but was going away...until of course my throat started bothering me, and now the anxiety is returning. I just don't want to lose sleep or lose my appetite again.
It's very nice to be eating again though, my appetite is back in full swing, and the nausea has been gone for at least 5-6 days now. That whole first 10 days or so, I couldn't even drink coffee, but now it's tasting better than before. I use about half the cream I used to as well. Coffee has definitely improved a lot in taste.
My digestive system is back to normal. In fact it's better than it used to be. Maybe the week off of eating a lot cleaned me out, or maybe it's the nicotine being gone from the system, but the digestive system in general feels much much better than it ever has my entire adult life.
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Sometimes I have moments in the day where I just faze out and am in a fog. But for the most part, I'm feeling pretty normal again.
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Part of me keeps saying to just go buy a can and see if everything is back to normal tomorrow. But I can't go back after 15 days...I just can't do it. Honestly, if I didn't have a wife and a son, I'd chew until the day I died.
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Day 15
So I feel semi good overall, but I'm getting this clicking sound when I swallow. I'm starting to convince myself that I'm dying again. That whole first week, I thought I was dying, and I could barely eat.
My son had the same thing a week ago, so I know I shouldn't be panicking. I'm just trying to keep my mind focused on other things. I also looked it up, and it is something that can be caused by anxiety, which I feel like I was having, but was going away...until of course my throat started bothering me, and now the anxiety is returning. I just don't want to lose sleep or lose my appetite again.
It's very nice to be eating again though, my appetite is back in full swing, and the nausea has been gone for at least 5-6 days now. That whole first 10 days or so, I couldn't even drink coffee, but now it's tasting better than before. I use about half the cream I used to as well. Coffee has definitely improved a lot in taste.
My digestive system is back to normal. In fact it's better than it used to be. Maybe the week off of eating a lot cleaned me out, or maybe it's the nicotine being gone from the system, but the digestive system in general feels much much better than it ever has my entire adult life.
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Sometimes I have moments in the day where I just faze out and am in a fog. But for the most part, I'm feeling pretty normal again.
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Part of me keeps saying to just go buy a can and see if everything is back to normal tomorrow. But I can't go back after 15 days...I just can't do it. Honestly, if I didn't have a wife and a son, I'd chew until the day I died.
Day 15 is awesome man, don't throw that away. The fog will lift, it may take a couple more weeks but there are better days ahead. Those thoughts that a can just might make everything better is the nic bitch trying to wedge herself back into your life. Nicotine has lost it's physical grip on you but your mind and body are beginning to heal and rewire itself, that just takes some time.
I can assure you that buying a can will bring you nothing but disappointment and sorrow. Staying quit again today, keeping your promise to your group and the community here will add another brick to the foundation of your quit. Every victory will build on the last and pretty soon you will begin to understand just how powerful taking your freedom back from the poison will be to your entire life.
Keep up the good work and let me know if you need anything.
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Day 15
So I feel semi good overall, but I'm getting this clicking sound when I swallow. I'm starting to convince myself that I'm dying again. That whole first week, I thought I was dying, and I could barely eat.
My son had the same thing a week ago, so I know I shouldn't be panicking. I'm just trying to keep my mind focused on other things. I also looked it up, and it is something that can be caused by anxiety, which I feel like I was having, but was going away...until of course my throat started bothering me, and now the anxiety is returning. I just don't want to lose sleep or lose my appetite Iagain.
It's very nice to be eating again though, my appetite is back in full swing, and the nausea has been gone for at least 5-6 days now. That whole first 10 days or so, I couldn't even drink coffee, but now it's tasting better than before. I use about half the cream I used to as well. Coffee has definitely improved a lot in taste.
My digestive system is back to normal. In fact it's better than it used to be. Maybe the week off of eating a lot cleaned me out, or maybe it's the nicotine being gone from the system, but the digestive system in general feels much much better than it ever has my entire adult life.
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Sometimes I have moments in the day where I just faze out and am in a fog. But for the most part, I'm feeling pretty normal again.
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Part of me keeps saying to just go buy a can and see if everything is back to normal tomorrow. But I can't go back after 15 days...I just can't do it. Honestly, if I didn't have a wife and a son, I'd chew until the day I died.
Day 15 is awesome man, don't throw that away. The fog will lift, it may take a couple more weeks but there are better days ahead. Those thoughts that a can just might make everything better is the nic bitch trying to wedge herself back into your life. Nicotine has lost it's physical grip on you but your mind and body are beginning to heal and rewire itself, that just takes some time.
I can assure you that buying a can will bring you nothing but disappointment and sorrow. Staying quit again today, keeping your promise to your group and the community here will add another brick to the foundation of your quit. Every victory will build on the last and pretty soon you will begin to understand just how powerful taking your freedom back from the poison will be to your entire life.
Keep up the good work and let me know if you need anything.
Jlud said it all, listen and adhere. To add; after 385 days poison free you couldn't stick a gun to my head and make me suckle with the poison again. I hate the poison. It lied to me for to long. I believed it helped me, when all it ever did was take. It doesn't deserve your want and desire. Begin building a hatred because that's all the poison deserves.
It will help you to learn this enemy. Read all you can on nicotine/addiction. Learn your enemy, it knows you. Its time to build your quit knowledge and gain the advantage. Begin knowing what to expect.
SCREW the poison. I don't care if I'm married, divorced, got kids, don't got kids, who dies, throat clicking, wrist hurts or whatever else comes up or lies ahead. I will post roll and keep my word. My life belongs to the poison NO longer. Let's get some quit on brother. Let's take it to another level. The level of no return. Develop a better state of mind. Your in control my friend. Time to begin acting like it. Quit with you.
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Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
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Day 15
So I feel semi good overall, but I'm getting this clicking sound when I swallow. I'm starting to convince myself that I'm dying again. That whole first week, I thought I was dying, and I could barely eat.
My son had the same thing a week ago, so I know I shouldn't be panicking. I'm just trying to keep my mind focused on other things. I also looked it up, and it is something that can be caused by anxiety, which I feel like I was having, but was going away...until of course my throat started bothering me, and now the anxiety is returning. I just don't want to lose sleep or lose my appetite Iagain.
It's very nice to be eating again though, my appetite is back in full swing, and the nausea has been gone for at least 5-6 days now. That whole first 10 days or so, I couldn't even drink coffee, but now it's tasting better than before. I use about half the cream I used to as well. Coffee has definitely improved a lot in taste.
My digestive system is back to normal. In fact it's better than it used to be. Maybe the week off of eating a lot cleaned me out, or maybe it's the nicotine being gone from the system, but the digestive system in general feels much much better than it ever has my entire adult life.
--
Sometimes I have moments in the day where I just faze out and am in a fog. But for the most part, I'm feeling pretty normal again.
--
Part of me keeps saying to just go buy a can and see if everything is back to normal tomorrow. But I can't go back after 15 days...I just can't do it. Honestly, if I didn't have a wife and a son, I'd chew until the day I died.
Day 15 is awesome man, don't throw that away. The fog will lift, it may take a couple more weeks but there are better days ahead. Those thoughts that a can just might make everything better is the nic bitch trying to wedge herself back into your life. Nicotine has lost it's physical grip on you but your mind and body are beginning to heal and rewire itself, that just takes some time.
I can assure you that buying a can will bring you nothing but disappointment and sorrow. Staying quit again today, keeping your promise to your group and the community here will add another brick to the foundation of your quit. Every victory will build on the last and pretty soon you will begin to understand just how powerful taking your freedom back from the poison will be to your entire life.
Keep up the good work and let me know if you need anything.
Jlud said it all, listen and adhere. To add; after 385 days poison free you couldn't stick a gun to my head and make me suckle with the poison again. I hate the poison. It lied to me for to long. I believed it helped me, when all it ever did was take. It doesn't deserve your want and desire. Begin building a hatred because that's all the poison deserves.
It will help you to learn this enemy. Read all you can on nicotine/addiction. Learn your enemy, it knows you. Its time to build your quit knowledge and gain the advantage. Begin knowing what to expect.
SCREW the poison. I don't care if I'm married, divorced, got kids, don't got kids, who dies, throat clicking, wrist hurts or whatever else comes up or lies ahead. I will post roll and keep my word. My life belongs to the poison NO longer. Let's get some quit on brother. Let's take it to another level. The level of no return. Develop a better state of mind. Your in control my friend. Time to begin acting like it. Quit with you.
Hey deepbrah,
I'm in your quit group and can't stand by while your are talking cave. Breath deep, exercise. These guys have said it all. It doesn't make a shit if you have kids, wife, girlfriend, mama, puppies or what...you quit for you.
Going back to the nic bitch will only bring you grief. You have kicked her out, now stick to the quit. Hate nicotine and the dip that brought her.
Hang in brah!
I quit with you!
Let me know if you need anything.
Doc
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I can honestly say that 100%, without a doubt, I'm never going to put a chew in my mouth ever again. There is no doubt in my mind.
bump
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Day 15
So I feel semi good overall, but I'm getting this clicking sound when I swallow. I'm starting to convince myself that I'm dying again. That whole first week, I thought I was dying, and I could barely eat.
My son had the same thing a week ago, so I know I shouldn't be panicking. I'm just trying to keep my mind focused on other things. I also looked it up, and it is something that can be caused by anxiety, which I feel like I was having, but was going away...until of course my throat started bothering me, and now the anxiety is returning. I just don't want to lose sleep or lose my appetite Iagain.
It's very nice to be eating again though, my appetite is back in full swing, and the nausea has been gone for at least 5-6 days now. That whole first 10 days or so, I couldn't even drink coffee, but now it's tasting better than before. I use about half the cream I used to as well. Coffee has definitely improved a lot in taste.
My digestive system is back to normal. In fact it's better than it used to be. Maybe the week off of eating a lot cleaned me out, or maybe it's the nicotine being gone from the system, but the digestive system in general feels much much better than it ever has my entire adult life.
--
Sometimes I have moments in the day where I just faze out and am in a fog. But for the most part, I'm feeling pretty normal again.
--
Part of me keeps saying to just go buy a can and see if everything is back to normal tomorrow. But I can't go back after 15 days...I just can't do it. Honestly, if I didn't have a wife and a son, I'd chew until the day I died.
Day 15 is awesome man, don't throw that away. The fog will lift, it may take a couple more weeks but there are better days ahead. Those thoughts that a can just might make everything better is the nic bitch trying to wedge herself back into your life. Nicotine has lost it's physical grip on you but your mind and body are beginning to heal and rewire itself, that just takes some time.
I can assure you that buying a can will bring you nothing but disappointment and sorrow. Staying quit again today, keeping your promise to your group and the community here will add another brick to the foundation of your quit. Every victory will build on the last and pretty soon you will begin to understand just how powerful taking your freedom back from the poison will be to your entire life.
Keep up the good work and let me know if you need anything.
Jlud said it all, listen and adhere. To add; after 385 days poison free you couldn't stick a gun to my head and make me suckle with the poison again. I hate the poison. It lied to me for to long. I believed it helped me, when all it ever did was take. It doesn't deserve your want and desire. Begin building a hatred because that's all the poison deserves.
It will help you to learn this enemy. Read all you can on nicotine/addiction. Learn your enemy, it knows you. Its time to build your quit knowledge and gain the advantage. Begin knowing what to expect.
SCREW the poison. I don't care if I'm married, divorced, got kids, don't got kids, who dies, throat clicking, wrist hurts or whatever else comes up or lies ahead. I will post roll and keep my word. My life belongs to the poison NO longer. Let's get some quit on brother. Let's take it to another level. The level of no return. Develop a better state of mind. Your in control my friend. Time to begin acting like it. Quit with you.
Hey deepbrah,
I'm in your quit group and can't stand by while your are talking cave. Breath deep, exercise. These guys have said it all. It doesn't make a shit if you have kids, wife, girlfriend, mama, puppies or what...you quit for you.
Going back to the nic bitch will only bring you grief. You have kicked her out, now stick to the quit. Hate nicotine and the dip that brought her.
Hang in brah!
I quit with you!
Let me know if you need anything.
Doc
Hang tough!!!! Better days are coming and I can promise caving will make you miserable. It is a poison lie! Learn to hate the nic bitch and all her tricks. Keep taking your freedom back odaat!
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Day 15
So I feel semi good overall, but I'm getting this clicking sound when I swallow. I'm starting to convince myself that I'm dying again. That whole first week, I thought I was dying, and I could barely eat.
My son had the same thing a week ago, so I know I shouldn't be panicking. I'm just trying to keep my mind focused on other things. I also looked it up, and it is something that can be caused by anxiety, which I feel like I was having, but was going away...until of course my throat started bothering me, and now the anxiety is returning. I just don't want to lose sleep or lose my appetite Iagain.
It's very nice to be eating again though, my appetite is back in full swing, and the nausea has been gone for at least 5-6 days now. That whole first 10 days or so, I couldn't even drink coffee, but now it's tasting better than before. I use about half the cream I used to as well. Coffee has definitely improved a lot in taste.
My digestive system is back to normal. In fact it's better than it used to be. Maybe the week off of eating a lot cleaned me out, or maybe it's the nicotine being gone from the system, but the digestive system in general feels much much better than it ever has my entire adult life.
--
Sometimes I have moments in the day where I just faze out and am in a fog. But for the most part, I'm feeling pretty normal again.
--
Part of me keeps saying to just go buy a can and see if everything is back to normal tomorrow. But I can't go back after 15 days...I just can't do it. Honestly, if I didn't have a wife and a son, I'd chew until the day I died.
Day 15 is awesome man, don't throw that away. The fog will lift, it may take a couple more weeks but there are better days ahead. Those thoughts that a can just might make everything better is the nic bitch trying to wedge herself back into your life. Nicotine has lost it's physical grip on you but your mind and body are beginning to heal and rewire itself, that just takes some time.
I can assure you that buying a can will bring you nothing but disappointment and sorrow. Staying quit again today, keeping your promise to your group and the community here will add another brick to the foundation of your quit. Every victory will build on the last and pretty soon you will begin to understand just how powerful taking your freedom back from the poison will be to your entire life.
Keep up the good work and let me know if you need anything.
Jlud said it all, listen and adhere. To add; after 385 days poison free you couldn't stick a gun to my head and make me suckle with the poison again. I hate the poison. It lied to me for to long. I believed it helped me, when all it ever did was take. It doesn't deserve your want and desire. Begin building a hatred because that's all the poison deserves.
It will help you to learn this enemy. Read all you can on nicotine/addiction. Learn your enemy, it knows you. Its time to build your quit knowledge and gain the advantage. Begin knowing what to expect.
SCREW the poison. I don't care if I'm married, divorced, got kids, don't got kids, who dies, throat clicking, wrist hurts or whatever else comes up or lies ahead. I will post roll and keep my word. My life belongs to the poison NO longer. Let's get some quit on brother. Let's take it to another level. The level of no return. Develop a better state of mind. Your in control my friend. Time to begin acting like it. Quit with you.
Hey deepbrah,
I'm in your quit group and can't stand by while your are talking cave. Breath deep, exercise. These guys have said it all. It doesn't make a shit if you have kids, wife, girlfriend, mama, puppies or what...you quit for you.
Going back to the nic bitch will only bring you grief. You have kicked her out, now stick to the quit. Hate nicotine and the dip that brought her.
Hang in brah!
I quit with you!
Let me know if you need anything.
Doc
15 days in bro. That's a long time. Start owning this fucker. You won't stay quit for your wife and son - that's a fact. My recommendation is to turn this quit around starting today. Too much iffiness. Too much focusing on the struggles. Too much talk about fogs and funks and other negative shit. How about embracing the fact that you have kicked nic's ass every day for the last 15? Celebrate that shit bro. Look forward to posting 16 tomorrow. You are accomplishing something worthwhile - you should feel proud and strong in what you are doing. Take the bull by the horns dude - you can stomp queen Nikki into the dirt where she belong. A lying thieving controlling bitch - fuck her. YOU own you. YOU own your quit. Your a badass man - I know this because you haven't used tobacco in 15 days. Build on those 15 and lean on this site as you go. I want to see you be the aggressor. Fuck nic. PM me if you want a number.
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Keep on quitting bro. I know it's tough right now, it sucks dick, but I promise you it will get better. You are so close to being over the hump and you don't even know it. From now on you will only go up. Don't give up, and keep fighting, because you are almost through the fog.
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Keep on quitting bro. I know it's tough right now, it sucks dick, but I promise you it will get better. You are so close to being over the hump and you don't even know it. From now on you will only go up. Don't give up, and keep fighting, because you are almost through the fog.
^^^^^^ I will second that^^^^^ Quit with you!
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DUDE...WHERE ARE YOU?
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Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
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Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
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Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
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Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
I new things didn't look good. Boo hoo, if it wasn't for my wife and kids sob story.
From the great Cbird; own it or be owned.
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Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
I new things didn't look good. Boo hoo, if it wasn't for my wife and kids sob story.
From the great Cbird; own it or be owned.
That's a shame. If people aren't able to stay true to their quit with some of the great guys and gals on here to back them up, I'm fairly certain that they'll never be able to do it.
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Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
I new things didn't look good. Boo hoo, if it wasn't for my wife and kids sob story.
From the great Cbird; own it or be owned.
That's a shame. If people aren't able to stay true to their quit with some of the great guys and gals on here to back them up, I'm fairly certain that they'll never be able to do it.
I'm with him ^^^^. I can give you all the reasons why we fail before finding this site but I am happy to say, that once the tools were given to me, I had no reason to fail and I haven't - not one cave and there will never be that cave. I know what to do, how to do, and I get it done. If you can't get it here, there isn't a better option to run to. When he's ready to do it for him, he knows where to come now and that is important.
-
Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
I new things didn't look good. Boo hoo, if it wasn't for my wife and kids sob story.
From the great Cbird; own it or be owned.
That's a shame. If people aren't able to stay true to their quit with some of the great guys and gals on here to back them up, I'm fairly certain that they'll never be able to do it.
I'm with him ^^^^. I can give you all the reasons why we fail before finding this site but I am happy to say, that once the tools were given to me, I had no reason to fail and I haven't - not one cave and there will never be that cave. I know what to do, how to do, and I get it done. If you can't get it here, there isn't a better option to run to. When he's ready to do it for him, he knows where to come now and that is important.
0 for the last 3
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Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
I new things didn't look good. Boo hoo, if it wasn't for my wife and kids sob story.
From the great Cbird; own it or be owned.
That's a shame. If people aren't able to stay true to their quit with some of the great guys and gals on here to back them up, I'm fairly certain that they'll never be able to do it.
I'm with him ^^^^. I can give you all the reasons why we fail before finding this site but I am happy to say, that once the tools were given to me, I had no reason to fail and I haven't - not one cave and there will never be that cave. I know what to do, how to do, and I get it done. If you can't get it here, there isn't a better option to run to. When he's ready to do it for him, he knows where to come now and that is important.
0 for the last 3
Maybe he's just in a coma and not caved
-
Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
I new things didn't look good. Boo hoo, if it wasn't for my wife and kids sob story.
From the great Cbird; own it or be owned.
That's a shame. If people aren't able to stay true to their quit with some of the great guys and gals on here to back them up, I'm fairly certain that they'll never be able to do it.
I'm with him ^^^^. I can give you all the reasons why we fail before finding this site but I am happy to say, that once the tools were given to me, I had no reason to fail and I haven't - not one cave and there will never be that cave. I know what to do, how to do, and I get it done. If you can't get it here, there isn't a better option to run to. When he's ready to do it for him, he knows where to come now and that is important.
0 for the last 3
Maybe he's just in a coma and not caved
What a dickhole.
-
Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
I new things didn't look good. Boo hoo, if it wasn't for my wife and kids sob story.
From the great Cbird; own it or be owned.
That's a shame. If people aren't able to stay true to their quit with some of the great guys and gals on here to back them up, I'm fairly certain that they'll never be able to do it.
I'm with him ^^^^. I can give you all the reasons why we fail before finding this site but I am happy to say, that once the tools were given to me, I had no reason to fail and I haven't - not one cave and there will never be that cave. I know what to do, how to do, and I get it done. If you can't get it here, there isn't a better option to run to. When he's ready to do it for him, he knows where to come now and that is important.
0 for the last 3
Maybe he's just in a coma and not caved
What a dickhole.
"Thank your stars you're not that way, Turn your back and walk away"
-
Honestly if I didn't have a wife and a son, I' chew until the day I died."
Say what? This worries me greatly.
Basically what you are say that you aren't quitting because you WANT to, you are quitting because you feel you should. That's not going to cut it. Quitting for you faimily is a good starting point but ultimately if you don't quit for you, your chances at success deminish greatly. It's very tough to force yourself to do ANYTHING you really don't want to do.Â
You also are still glamourising dip. You think going back to the can will make things "normal" again. It won't, so get that shit out of your head. If you're going to do this, you have to be all in, not one foot in and one foot out.
Anxiety...I've been there and know what you're going through. In fact I know what your thinking before you think it. Anxiety is one big circle of shitty self defeating thinking.Â
The littlest things that wouldn't have bothered you in the past, now cause you to freak the fuck out and you can't stop your brain from thinking about it, then you can't stop thinking about not thinking about it, next you can't stop thinking about not thinking about not thinking about it. And so thy viscous cycle continues.
I was there. I once only ate chicken noodle soup for 10 days straight because I thought it made me feel better. I thought I had diabetes, I thought I had angina, I feel asleep with my neck cocked goofy one day and woke up and thought I had a stroke because my face was a little tingly.Â
All this goofy shit had me thinking there was something "wrong" with me or that I was "crazy".
I wasn't. Crazy people don't worry about being crazy. They are just fucking crazy and don't give a shit.
Anxiety was causing all these thoughts. Over time with some help I began to see anxiety for what it was. An over abundance of adrenaline produced because my body was THINKING it was in trouble. Fight or flight....
The thing that really helped me was the montra of "I don't fear anxiety" and letting these thoughts roll in and out without getting too fired up about them. The harder you try and fight anxiety the harder it fights back. Try and accept your thoughts for what they are...thoughts. Don't let them define you or take over your life.
Again, easier said than done, but hang in there, bro.Â
PM me anytime if you want to hear more.
Quit on...
Look likes he may have decided to die early.
I hope not but it looks bad.
0 for the last 2, Deepbrah. Where the hell are you?
No return of my text either.
I can live with the fact that people fall down but hell, at least respond and tell me that....
I new things didn't look good. Boo hoo, if it wasn't for my wife and kids sob story.
From the great Cbird; own it or be owned.
That's a shame. If people aren't able to stay true to their quit with some of the great guys and gals on here to back them up, I'm fairly certain that they'll never be able to do it.
I'm with him ^^^^. I can give you all the reasons why we fail before finding this site but I am happy to say, that once the tools were given to me, I had no reason to fail and I haven't - not one cave and there will never be that cave. I know what to do, how to do, and I get it done. If you can't get it here, there isn't a better option to run to. When he's ready to do it for him, he knows where to come now and that is important.
0 for the last 3
Maybe he's just in a coma and not caved
What a dickhole.
"Thank your stars you're not that way, Turn your back and walk away"
"Someone set a bad example, made surrender seem alright. The act of a noble warrior, who lost the will to fight."
Aka...this guys a pussy and bailed by going back to the can rather than manning up and fighting!!!