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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: hawkeyerunner on October 05, 2014, 05:46:00 PM
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Hi, I'm hawkeyerunner and I've been dipping Copenhagen long cut for 11 years. The last 10 years have been a can or more a day and I'm ready to stop being a slave to it.
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I am updating my quit on Reddit's sub for dipping tobacco. So far the support has been awesome and the experience has been...well, interesting.
I'm 2 days in so far and really just want to punch a bear in the face right about now.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DippingTobacco/ ... tentially/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/DippingTobacco/comments/2ia40w/quitting_and_posting_the_progressa_potentially/)
Welcome.
This has to be one of the most shithouse, attention whoring things I've ever seen on here. Get the fuck off of reddit (/r/DippingTobacco? really?) and get in here if you're serious about quitting. Based on the verbal diarrhea I saw in your AMA, this looks to be a temporary stop for you - not a quit.
And dump those tins.
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Well that was a warm welcome. Considering how offensive the users are on here, I'm not sure I want to use this website any more.
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Well that was a warm welcome. Considering how offensive the users are on here, I'm not sure I want to use this website any more.
You do what you need to stay quit...just take that quit seriously.
You're welcome to stay, but have you posted roll? Do you have a plan for quitting? What have you done to get you to this point?
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I am updating my quit on Reddit's sub for dipping tobacco. So far the support has been awesome and the experience has been...well, interesting.
I'm 2 days in so far and really just want to punch a bear in the face right about now.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DippingTobacco/ ... tentially/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/DippingTobacco/comments/2ia40w/quitting_and_posting_the_progressa_potentially/)
My quit is not an experiment. I think you are definitely in the wrong neck of the woods. "It's manly as fuck" ummmm. Ummmmm. As a woman I have never saw a guy dipping and thought it made him any more or less manly. And I'm glad you had a lady over for 3 hours and that ladies are good distractions from your experimental "quit" aka: stopping to see what happens so you can tell people about it.
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Here's some random replacement text because I was misinformed.
Now let me quit in peace, jerks.
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Here's some random replacement text because I was misinformed.
Now let me quit in peace, jerks.
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I don't think you got what I was trying to do, that sub-reddit is loaded with more than 4,000 dippers who will (hopefully) be quitting someday too. I thought it would be helpful to document what quitting feels like.
I kind of see what you're saying. But also I think if you are serious about quitting, a page with 4,000 dippers about dipping is probably not going to do anything but cause you to cave. If you really want to quit I would worry about myself and my quit first and then someday in the future I might rehash the experience. But if I could accurately describe the way my first week has felt, I am pretty sure nobody would voluntarily take it on. Lol
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Here's some random replacement text because I was misinformed.
Now let me quit in peace, jerks.
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Poof.
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Holy crap, what more do I need to do to prove to you people I'm quitting? Sacrifice a goat?
I haven't dipped in 2 days, my temper is short, my stomach hurts, I can't focus or sleep and I pretty much hate everything right now.
So far, this website has done nothing but piss me off, and losing my temper is the first step toward me dipping again. I've gone this far, and I'm not going back because I'll inevitably have to do it all over again and this would be for nothing.
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I agree with you, Cindy. Had I known it would be this horrible I wouldn't have started it - but I'm this far now and I know quitting will inevitably happen.
If you read the entire thing, you probably saw that I hate losing and not being in control so going back to dipping now would mean exactly that and I'm not going there.
I'm just saying if you're serious then use this site like it's intended. Post your intro here instead of us having to go to a page covered with snuff pics to read about you. Post roll. Read how the site works ect and I will quit with you
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I only posted it here because I was told to when I was in the chat room earlier today. I started Reddit because I didn't know where else to start.
Apparently that makes me scum.
If I wasn't serious about it, I would have thrown a big fat dip in the second this got hard. But if you read my Reddit post, you'd see that I've been having a pretty crappy time.
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I told him it would be a good idea to post this in his intro. I'll take the heat for that.
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Like I said. I kind of see what you're doing on reddit. And that's cool I guess. You're obviously going to describe it to people who haven't quit yet and maybe don't even really want to, but I would keep that project and this one seperate. People here are going to be offended by being directed to that site. I don't really know how else to explain it. I saw that page, saw cans of snuff and kind of wanted a dip. Not urgently. But it did make the thought cross my mind
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Yeah, thanks for that, thanks a lot. Because of it I got to spend all evening with this crap and I'm so pissed off that when I went to a website that is supposedly the best one to quit on, I get heckled instead. You guys all really suck, I'm making an honest effort here and instead I get treated like shit.
Thanks a lot.
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Yeah, thanks for that, thanks a lot. Because of it I got to spend all evening with this crap and I'm so pissed off that when I went to a website that is supposedly the best one to quit on, I get heckled instead. You guys all really suck, I'm making an honest effort here and instead I get treated like shit.
Thanks a lot.
Dude - Grow a sack. Know day 2 is tough. We have all been there. Cold turkey just like you. You're pissed right now, raging. The nic bitch is in your head and has you by the balls. You are 1 or 2 days away from nic being out of your system. You need to make it through those days then it's all head games.
I'm not gonna debate who what why. I get you right now. You need to understand this place works. Tough love. If you want to, you will succeed here.
My story: 25 years can a day 9100 days 35 thousand bucks 154 days quit.
I bought in and drank the kool aid.
Thirsty?
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Holy crap, what more do I need to do to prove to you people I'm quitting? Sacrifice a goat?
I haven't dipped in 2 days, my temper is short, my stomach hurts, I can't focus or sleep and I pretty much hate everything right now.
So far, this website has done nothing but piss me off, and losing my temper is the first step toward me dipping again. I've gone this far, and I'm not going back because I'll inevitably have to do it all over again and this would be for nothing.
Ahhh...honey. Buckle up then.
Like I said in my first post (that you slightly answered)....What do you know about us? I've read your AMA. Hell, I've visited that sub. Did you know that there is one specifically for quitting as well?
48 hours is a awesome, but it is a drop in the bucket to being quit. Don't ask addicts that are currently using how to quit. Listen to actual quitters and you'll know what you need to do. We don't respect tries here. We respect the act...the fight. I could give a shit less of attracting "4000 potential quitters". You are quit. You've posted roll. We can help you. Not everybody is saved, but anyone can be.
So, ask me (or any of the badass 21k members) how to stay quit today. We'll help you with that. Ask us to hold your hand through a craving. We'll help you with that. Ask us to act nice and dance for ya? 'Finger'
Now, we quit here through brotherhood. I got your back. You got mine. I need to trust that you have my back and that I can turn to you when my quit is in trouble. Because, honestly, quitting isn't all easy...but it is simple: Post roll, keep your word, and repeat. Quitting is a decision, and you back it up by continuing to make that decision. You are the only one that decide whether you'll stay quit. I don't care if you're keeping a diary of this process on the back of your dog...just don't ever forget how bad this sucks. The first few days are awful, and I never want to relive that again.
You aren't flaunting shit by doing this. We know how to quit. We do it every day.
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Hawkeyerunner, this site can be a slap in the face, kick in the balls, question your manhood etc. and at times piss you off but in the end it works. To be honest the quitters here don't care about all the other stuff, what they care about is you and your quit and will be there for you when you need it most. Where else are you going to get that kind of support? Nicotine has a hold on us all and we all know what it is like to quit, cold turkey and we can walk you through each and every day of your quit journey. We'll put up with your rage, your comments and your despair and will still be there on the other side as long as you promise to quit each and every day. It's like that shitty medicine you were given as a kid and you fought to take but in the end you knew it was what was best for you and would make you better in the end. In this case it's not just feeling better it's saving your life. You're quit and that's a start and now you want to stay quit and that is where this site and the people on it will help. Jump in, embrace the good and bad and end up living a long life.
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What a fucking pussy. Didn't you say "fuck those guys" in your little blog thingy when they told you to toss your can?
We aren't going to tell you what you want to hear. We are going to tell you what you need to hear. You have to wear you big boy pants in here, sunshine.
It's not us or our comments that are pissing you off. It's your body's reaction to NICOTINE withdrawal. NICOTINE is what you are addicted to.
You justify your years of use to being a shit kicking cowboy and a snuffin and a spittin is just part of that life. Like that's some defining trait of being a cowboy. That's Bullshit.
There are lawyers, doctors, dentists, etc...on here who chewed longer than your cowboy ass.
Why? Because they were ADDICTED to nicotine.
Your not addicted to a lifestyle, SCIENCE and CHEMISTRY have got your ass.
Do some reading on this site, or go off this site and learn how nicotine addiction really is.
I can tell by reading your diary that your setting yourself up to fail. You've got all the excuses already built in. That half a can in your toolbox being the biggest one. Dipping is manly? How so? I'd love to hear an answer for that one.
Quitting is tough. We don't coddle people here. We tell it like it is and use tough love.
If that's too much and you're too soft then this probably isn't the place for you and you probably won't make it.
I thought cowboys were tough, not a bunch of fucking pussy ass whinny babies. Guess I was wrong?
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Also, what the fuck site is your diary on?
There's fucking dip all over the place. There was even like a watermark dip advertisement as I was reading your diary.
Then I poked around a little bit and after more ads for dip, I read probably the dumbest exchange in the history of man.
Some guy was apologizing for asking questions about cancer and other dudes were forgiving him and saying that they were long time dippers and didn't need to be hearing that shit. One guy ended his response with "Happy Dipping"???? It's almost like that's the anti-KTC
You might want to get off that site if your really serious about quitting and if I were a mod I would eliminate th link to that shitball site. Wtf.
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Jcanquit - you're awesome, thanks.
Diesel - I was only being honest on what I was thinking at the time. So fuck you, and Michigan suck dick. ....but you are right, I am addicted to the chemicals. But those chemicals and their use is really really common where I live, work, and play. All of my friends and family do it, and as far as I can remember nobody I know has even tried to quit. So yeah, it's pretty wrapped up in my life and I don't know how to un-do that either.
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Jcanquit - you're awesome, thanks.
Diesel - I was only being honest on what I was thinking at the time. So fuck you, and Michigan suck dick.
So was I and yeah...my avi not looking so good nowadays. But I can handle the criticism because I'm not a cry baby little bitch.
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Jcanquit - you're awesome, thanks.
Diesel - I was only being honest on what I was thinking at the time. So fuck you, and Michigan suck dick. ....but you are right, I am addicted to the chemicals. But those chemicals and their use is really really common where I live, work, and play. All of my friends and family do it, and as far as I can remember nobody I know has even tried to quit. So yeah, it's pretty wrapped up in my life and I don't know how to un-do that either.
Well...if you follow the playbook here, you will learn how to UN-do it.
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Also, what the fuck site is your diary on?
There's fucking dip all over the place. There was even like a watermark dip advertisement as I was reading your diary.
Then I poked around a little bit and after more ads for dip, I read probably the dumbest exchange in the history of man.
Some guy was apologizing for asking questions about cancer and other dudes were forgiving him and saying that they were long time dippers and didn't need to be hearing that shit. One guy ended his response with "Happy Dipping"???? It's almost like that's the anti-KTC
You might want to get off that site if your really serious about quitting and if I were a mod I would eliminate th link to that shitball site. Wtf.
Diesel, bro. I told him to post the link... obviously an over site on my part. So if you're gonna give heat for that you should direct it my way. Shoulda looked at it closer before I told him to share.
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I'm not holding it against anyone, I didn't know what I was getting into. I can see that you're all very serious about quitting and that's awesome.
So, I'm going to leave this account for a few days and come back later this week with a new one, under a new name, so you little faggots will treat me decently from the get-go.
My quit was going so much better before I got on here.
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hawkeye, you are right, dipping is pretty manly (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/)
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Jcanquit - you're awesome, thanks.
Diesel - I was only being honest on what I was thinking at the time. So fuck you, and Michigan suck dick. ....but you are right, I am addicted to the chemicals. But those chemicals and their use is really really common where I live, work, and play. All of my friends and family do it, and as far as I can remember nobody I know has even tried to quit. So yeah, it's pretty wrapped up in my life and I don't know how to un-do that either.
Well...if you follow the playbook here, you will learn how to UN-do it.
Clemson 41 NCSU 0
Not a good day.
No crying here either.
Still a fan. Still quit.
If the Reddit subshit experiment doesn't work out, shift your attention over here 100%. But only if you truly want to quit.
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None reddit people should not go to reddit... It's worse culture shock than coming here... While other world....
It could work.... But that requires hawk to drink the koolaid... Then that sub reddit would get really interesting.
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I'm not holding it against anyone, I didn't know what I was getting into. I can see that you're all very serious about quitting and that's awesome.
So, I'm going to leave this account for a few days and come back later this week with a new one, under a new name, so you little faggots will treat me decently from the get-go.
My quit was going so much better before I got on here.
Nah, man. That's not how we do it.
You don't get to redo your birth. You don't get a new entrance. One of the few rules we have on this site is one profile (unlike reddit).
Sack up. Stay quit. See you in the morning.
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Yeah, I was told the reverse earlier. That it would be cool and appreciated. I haven't had any tobacco for almost exactly 48 hours now and everything is spazzing out.
My latest entry over there is this:
10/5 at 9:30 p.m.: I've spent the entire evening arguing with assholes on killthecan.com. I don't even feel human right now. My stomach hurts, I can't focus worth a shit and everything is extremely annoying. This fucking sucks!
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I'm not holding it against anyone, I didn't know what I was getting into. I can see that you're all very serious about quitting and that's awesome.
So, I'm going to leave this account for a few days and come back later this week with a new one, under a new name, so you little faggots will treat me decently from the get-go.
My quit was going so much better before I got on here.
Don't matter who suggested what, that site is straight up garbage. That's my main point.
Yes. We are very serious about quitting. That's what this site is built on. Last I checked if you REALLY want something, you need to put SERIOUS effort into it.
Come back as another person. Now THAT'S manly.
How about you just start posting roll, delete your account at that other site, and see how ktc really works.
Probably too scared to do that...
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Yeah, I was told the reverse earlier. That it would be cool and appreciated. I haven't had any tobacco for almost exactly 48 hours now and everything is spazzing out.
My latest entry over there is this:
10/5 at 9:30 p.m.: I've spent the entire evening arguing with assholes on killthecan.com. I don't even feel human right now. My stomach hurts, I can't focus worth a shit and everything is extremely annoying. This fucking sucks!
Yeah bro. That's nicotine withdrawl. It takes 3 days to purge that shit out of your system.
Try drinking mass quantities of water to help flush it out.
You've done a lot of damage to your brain by dipping all those years. We all did.
I was so fucked up when I quit I didn't know which way was up. I was so scared and riddled with anxiety I thought I was dieing...literally.
You have to re-wire your brain. It's not a quick or easy process, but one that thousands on this site have done. I'm willing to bet the same cannot be said for that other site.
Go all in over here. We've been in your shoes. We can help.
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Yeah, I was told the reverse earlier. That it would be cool and appreciated. I haven't had any tobacco for almost exactly 48 hours now and everything is spazzing out.
My latest entry over there is this:
10/5 at 9:30 p.m.: I've spent the entire evening arguing with assholes on killthecan.com. I don't even feel human right now. My stomach hurts, I can't focus worth a shit and everything is extremely annoying. This fucking sucks!
Yeah bro. That's nicotine withdrawl. It takes 3 days to purge that shit out of your system.
Try drinking mass quantities of water to help flush it out.
You've done a lot of damage to your brain by dipping all those years. We all did.
I was so fucked up when I quit I didn't know which way was up. I was so scared and riddled with anxiety I thought I was dieing...literally.
You have to re-wire your brain. It's not a quick or easy process, but one that thousands on this site have done. I'm willing to bet the same cannot be said for that other site.
Go all in over here. We've been in your shoes. We can help.
Word.
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Diesel - Fuck you, leave me alone and let me quit in peace. Dick.
Done4Me - you're awesome and I totally agree. For instance, I just caught myself thinking that I'd finish the night with some reading and a dip...umm, where the hell did that thought come from? I've been on rage mode all evening about not doing that and then I was all "hey, I should have a dip." It's in my fucking brain right now.
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Diesel - Fuck you, leave me alone and let me quit in peace. Dick.
Done4Me - you're awesome and I totally agree. For instance, I just caught myself thinking that I'd finish the night with some reading and a dip...umm, where the hell did that thought come from? I've been on rage mode all evening about not doing that and then I was all "hey, I should have a dip." It's in my fucking brain right now.
Thanks dude. Diesel and I are preaching the same message. You're just pissed because he's more direct.
I want to live. I want to be a father, a granddad. I want an extended life.
My guess... you want the same. Figure out how to make this place work for you.
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I'm motivated by two things, money and my hatred for not being in control of what's in my damn mouth. I announced I was quitting to everyone I know and I don't want to go back to it, it would mean admitting defeat and losing.
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Also, I deleted the entire post on Reddit since it offended so many of you fuckers.
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You could quit calling us names. That would be helpful. You don't act like a cowboy you act like a punk ass kid.
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I'll apologize for the name calling if you guys apologize for being jerks when I was trying to get help.
I'm really on edge right now, everything pisses me off so that's a thing too.
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I'll apologize for the name calling if you guys apologize for being jerks when I was trying to get help.
I'm really on edge right now, everything pisses me off so that's a thing too.
Call me every name in the book, I don't care.
I'll leave u alone to quit in peace, now.
Quit on...
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I'll apologize for the name calling if you guys apologize for being jerks when I was trying to get help.
I'm really on edge right now, everything pisses me off so that's a thing too.
Totally get it. Day 2 sucks. Hang tight here. I never thought I could quit, I'm over 5 months and just typing that makes my pants twitch.
You got this. Fuck reddit. This place will save your life.
No experiment.
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5 months is awesome dude! Are the cravings still there at that point?
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5 months is awesome dude! Are the cravings still there at that point?
Yes, but it lessens each month.
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5 months is awesome dude! Are the cravings still there at that point?
Yes, but it lessens each month.
Here's the deal: Reddit will not get and keep you quit.
KTC will. If you truly want to quit (THIS IS ON YOU) this is the place with the greatest probability of success.
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Actually, this website ticked me off so I'm never coming here again.
I was happier and doing better with my quit before getting pissed off by this website. (No offense, some of you are pretty helpful)
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I'll apologize for the name calling if you guys apologize for being jerks when I was trying to get help.
I'm really on edge right now, everything pisses me off so that's a thing too.
I won't apologize because I wasn't trying to be a jerk.. But I will quit with you. That's the thing here we support each other. We trust each other to be there when we need them and to come to us when they need it. We promise every day not to use nicotine. Then that day you keep your promise. To yourself and to the rest of us. Not to save money, to save our lives. Then post roll again the next day. Don't think about quitting forever. Quit one day at a time. You can do anything for a day. The first several days really really SUCK. The next days after that will suck not quite as bad for the most part. But they will suck too. But amidst all of the suck you will notice you start to feel better physically. You realize that the snuff you though was calming your nerves, was actually causing you anxiety because you were at varying stages of withdrawal many times a day. I have only been quit a week but I shit you not, I feel SO much better. I feel like I did when I was a kid, I feel normal. I didn't realize how messed up I was until I quit. And that realization was infuriating. It pissed me off at myself that I let something so stupid get such a hold on me and alter the real me so much. Drink a ton of water. That helps a lot. Read everything you can here about the addiction and withdrawal. I for one like to understand WHY exactly I feel like I do that day. Get numbers of people you can text if you think you are going to cave.
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I was reading your Reddit stuff. If you have a half can of dip on you flush that fucker. I am on 71 hours dip free. I flushed everything. I get your trying to use it as a "security net" or whatever that guy posted on Reddit. Its stupid, if you cave you have what you need to achieve it. Go get a can of the fake and use that as your security net. It works one in the same. I have a full can of fake in the freezer. I have opened it and smelled it a few times. Not one has touched my lip but if it does its not cheating. FLUSH IT trust me.
Also, I see you say you were quitting for the money. If you aren't doing this for yourself then I think you will fold. Reading your Reddit you are pretty weak but everyday free you will get stronger. 24 hours at a time man. I quit with you today.
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This IS support. Once you buy into it, you will be on your road to freedom. You will go through many stages during your quit. It's obvious what stage you are in now. Remember that everyone here has gone through what you are going through. Read their words of wisdom. I'm on day 220 today and yesterday was horrible but it was only one day. I got onto chat and a friend, yes someone who I have never met I call a friend, calmed me down. Quitting sucks. There is no easy way to do it but if you post roll here daily, honor your word, and be involved here you my friend will succeed.
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Much respect Raider. It would of been so easy for your addiction to say "Its been 220 days, You can go have just one". You are strong. I am excited and aspire to reach 220 days!
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Hate to thread jack but what is up with chat?
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Much respect Raider. It would of been so easy for your addiction to say "Its been 220 days, You can go have just one". You are strong. I am excited and aspire to reach 220 days!
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Hate to thread jack but what is up with chat?
I haven't missed a day of roll. Once I make the promise, I cannot cave. What kind of man would I be then? This shit really works hawkeye. Take what you need and leave the rest. Someone piss you off, well big effing deal. People piss me off all the time. DO NOT LET IT AFFECT YOUR QUIT!!!
In other words, don't leave because of a few comments. In a few weeks you will realize how silly this whole thing was.
GB: Looks like chat might be down
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I just read this thread ands then read your dipping forum over on reddit. You should make a clean break from that other website. Unless you're a pussy caver? Which, based on what I've read, is probably what you are. Good luck with your stupid method. It makes no sense. It's addict logic at its finest.
If I were in your shoes at this very moment. I would tell those dippers on your reddit site that you will no longer be posting there because you are a quitter.
Are you a quitter? Or are you just experimenting with a stop? And why on earth would you be keeping a can in your car?
This whole thing is crazy that you are doing. You need to get serious about quitting. This is life or death.
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Honestly-- WHO GIVES A FUCK?
The fact that you're giving this kid shit over his reddit posts is the height of retardation. This site is culty as fuck when it comes to chastising members who are misguided on what it means to be quit. It's as if you're more interested in fanning flames than actually having a conversation about nicotine addiction.
That's why all I do is this: I come here, I post roll, and I go about my nic-free day like a fucking man. How's that for some Brooklyn-based honesty for you fuckheads? 'Finger'
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Holy crap, what more do I need to do to prove to you people I'm quitting? Sacrifice a goat?
First, we don't sacrifice goats here. We keep them for the Train.
Next, you don't know what The Train is yet.
Finally, you can start by posting Roll.
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An interesting idea but it fell short.
1. First romanticizing chew, not ready to quit
2. Posting on a active chewer/dipping thread, no real support there
If you want to get serious, post roll and contact an admin we have blog capabilities through KTC.
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Honestly-- WHO GIVES A FUCK?
The fact that you're giving this kid shit over his reddit posts is the height of retardation. This site is culty as fuck when it comes to chastising members who are misguided on what it means to be quit. It's as if you're more interested in fanning flames than actually having a conversation about nicotine addiction.
That's why all I do is this: I come here, I post roll, and I go about my nic-free day like a fucking man. How's that for some Brooklyn-based honesty for you fuckheads? 'Finger'
The dude is keeping an emergency can in his car in case he needs it. I give a fuck about that. Are you okay with that??
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I hate it when the trolls post on the weekend.........
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Yeah, I ran into this guy in chat. He said his friend was keeping a can for him in a toolbox so that when he does cave, which according to him we all do, he will have a can. He's not quit. He's just an observer. Go away little boy. KTC is for men and women who have put the can down for good!
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
Dude. I could care less about some stupid AMA thread on Reddit, and I'm not complaining about that. THE GUY KEEPS AN EMERGENCY CAN!!! That's the problem. When you join KTC, you flush all of it, and you don't keep a can around for your planned cave. It's BS and we don't do it that way here. You flush it, and you never look back, and you post roll daily. End of story.
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
Dude. I could care less about some stupid AMA thread on Reddit, and I'm not complaining about that. THE GUY KEEPS AN EMERGENCY CAN!!! That's the problem. When you join KTC, you flush all of it, and you don't keep a can around for your planned cave. It's BS and we don't do it that way here. You flush it, and you never look back, and you post roll daily. End of story.
Plus, if you actually read that Dippit site you'll find that it's a bunch of guys who love dip talking to each other about their love of dip. Even planning dipper meet ups. It's basically the polar opposite of KTC. They bond with each other over their shared love of dip. If he's not a troll, then I think it would be wise for him to not engage in that particular online community. I don't hang out in tobacco shops and shoot the shit with tobacco lovers. Just doesn't seem like a smart move.
I hope he sincerely wants to quit and I hope he sees the light. I suppose we could just not say anything and let him cuddle with his "safety net" and his dipping buddies.
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
Dude. I could care less about some stupid AMA thread on Reddit, and I'm not complaining about that. THE GUY KEEPS AN EMERGENCY CAN!!! That's the problem. When you join KTC, you flush all of it, and you don't keep a can around for your planned cave. It's BS and we don't do it that way here. You flush it, and you never look back, and you post roll daily. End of story.
Plus, if you actually read that Dippit site you'll find that it's a bunch of guys who love dip talking to each other about their love of dip. Even planning dipper meet ups. It's basically the polar opposite of KTC. They bond with each other over their shared love of dip. If he's not a troll, then I think it would be wise for him to not engage in that particular online community. I don't hang out in tobacco shops and shoot the shit with tobacco lovers. Just doesn't seem like a smart move.
I hope he sincerely wants to quit and I hope he sees the light. I suppose we could just not say anything and let him cuddle with his "safety net" and his dipping buddies.
He lost me with all of the insults. Hell of a way to gain support.
I know when I want something, I usually call the person a faggoty asshole, or an assholy faggot because, hey, I'm above sexual orientation slurs, and where the fuck is my triple Whopper?
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
Dude. I could care less about some stupid AMA thread on Reddit, and I'm not complaining about that. THE GUY KEEPS AN EMERGENCY CAN!!! That's the problem. When you join KTC, you flush all of it, and you don't keep a can around for your planned cave. It's BS and we don't do it that way here. You flush it, and you never look back, and you post roll daily. End of story.
Plus, if you actually read that Dippit site you'll find that it's a bunch of guys who love dip talking to each other about their love of dip. Even planning dipper meet ups. It's basically the polar opposite of KTC. They bond with each other over their shared love of dip. If he's not a troll, then I think it would be wise for him to not engage in that particular online community. I don't hang out in tobacco shops and shoot the shit with tobacco lovers. Just doesn't seem like a smart move.
I hope he sincerely wants to quit and I hope he sees the light. I suppose we could just not say anything and let him cuddle with his "safety net" and his dipping buddies.
He lost me with all of the insults. Hell of a way to gain support.
I know when I want something, I usually call the person a faggoty asshole, or an assholy faggot because, hey, I'm above sexual orientation slurs, and where the fuck is my triple Whopper?
Do they make triple whoppers? I've only had a double whopper.
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
Dude. I could care less about some stupid AMA thread on Reddit, and I'm not complaining about that. THE GUY KEEPS AN EMERGENCY CAN!!! That's the problem. When you join KTC, you flush all of it, and you don't keep a can around for your planned cave. It's BS and we don't do it that way here. You flush it, and you never look back, and you post roll daily. End of story.
Plus, if you actually read that Dippit site you'll find that it's a bunch of guys who love dip talking to each other about their love of dip. Even planning dipper meet ups. It's basically the polar opposite of KTC. They bond with each other over their shared love of dip. If he's not a troll, then I think it would be wise for him to not engage in that particular online community. I don't hang out in tobacco shops and shoot the shit with tobacco lovers. Just doesn't seem like a smart move.
I hope he sincerely wants to quit and I hope he sees the light. I suppose we could just not say anything and let him cuddle with his "safety net" and his dipping buddies.
He lost me with all of the insults. Hell of a way to gain support.
I know when I want something, I usually call the person a faggoty asshole, or an assholy faggot because, hey, I'm above sexual orientation slurs, and where the fuck is my triple Whopper?
Do they make triple whoppers? I've only had a double whopper.
You order another burger and slide it in slowly.
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
Dude. I could care less about some stupid AMA thread on Reddit, and I'm not complaining about that. THE GUY KEEPS AN EMERGENCY CAN!!! That's the problem. When you join KTC, you flush all of it, and you don't keep a can around for your planned cave. It's BS and we don't do it that way here. You flush it, and you never look back, and you post roll daily. End of story.
Plus, if you actually read that Dippit site you'll find that it's a bunch of guys who love dip talking to each other about their love of dip. Even planning dipper meet ups. It's basically the polar opposite of KTC. They bond with each other over their shared love of dip. If he's not a troll, then I think it would be wise for him to not engage in that particular online community. I don't hang out in tobacco shops and shoot the shit with tobacco lovers. Just doesn't seem like a smart move.
I hope he sincerely wants to quit and I hope he sees the light. I suppose we could just not say anything and let him cuddle with his "safety net" and his dipping buddies.
He lost me with all of the insults. Hell of a way to gain support.
I know when I want something, I usually call the person a faggoty asshole, or an assholy faggot because, hey, I'm above sexual orientation slurs, and where the fuck is my triple Whopper?
Do they make triple whoppers? I've only had a double whopper.
You order another burger and slide it in slowly.
You lost me. But I don't want any further clarification, please.
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
Dude. I could care less about some stupid AMA thread on Reddit, and I'm not complaining about that. THE GUY KEEPS AN EMERGENCY CAN!!! That's the problem. When you join KTC, you flush all of it, and you don't keep a can around for your planned cave. It's BS and we don't do it that way here. You flush it, and you never look back, and you post roll daily. End of story.
Plus, if you actually read that Dippit site you'll find that it's a bunch of guys who love dip talking to each other about their love of dip. Even planning dipper meet ups. It's basically the polar opposite of KTC. They bond with each other over their shared love of dip. If he's not a troll, then I think it would be wise for him to not engage in that particular online community. I don't hang out in tobacco shops and shoot the shit with tobacco lovers. Just doesn't seem like a smart move.
I hope he sincerely wants to quit and I hope he sees the light. I suppose we could just not say anything and let him cuddle with his "safety net" and his dipping buddies.
He lost me with all of the insults. Hell of a way to gain support.
I know when I want something, I usually call the person a faggoty asshole, or an assholy faggot because, hey, I'm above sexual orientation slurs, and where the fuck is my triple Whopper?
Do they make triple whoppers? I've only had a double whopper.
You order another burger and slide it in slowly.
You lost me. But I don't want any further clarification, please.
You meat-blocked me bro, I thought you were the master meat smoker..... 'na na'
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Hi Hawkeyerunner,
I navigate through reddit often and I quit a week ago and am relatively new to this site. I like the AMA idea. I am at work or otherwise I would click on it. I have no problem with this.
Day 2-4 were easily the toughest so far for me.
It gets easier I promise. I'll bet that many of the comments didn't help much either.
Just keep signing in roll. If you need someone to talk to, PM ME. Chances are I am feeling the same things you are right this second. I am quitting cold ass turkey too. I feel better for it. The craves are a motherfucker though.
I will remain quit. I am here if you need to bitch about something. I will listen and then probably bitch too. It isn't by chance that we are all irritable.
Dude. I could care less about some stupid AMA thread on Reddit, and I'm not complaining about that. THE GUY KEEPS AN EMERGENCY CAN!!! That's the problem. When you join KTC, you flush all of it, and you don't keep a can around for your planned cave. It's BS and we don't do it that way here. You flush it, and you never look back, and you post roll daily. End of story.
Plus, if you actually read that Dippit site you'll find that it's a bunch of guys who love dip talking to each other about their love of dip. Even planning dipper meet ups. It's basically the polar opposite of KTC. They bond with each other over their shared love of dip. If he's not a troll, then I think it would be wise for him to not engage in that particular online community. I don't hang out in tobacco shops and shoot the shit with tobacco lovers. Just doesn't seem like a smart move.
I hope he sincerely wants to quit and I hope he sees the light. I suppose we could just not say anything and let him cuddle with his "safety net" and his dipping buddies.
He lost me with all of the insults. Hell of a way to gain support.
I know when I want something, I usually call the person a faggoty asshole, or an assholy faggot because, hey, I'm above sexual orientation slurs, and where the fuck is my triple Whopper?
Do they make triple whoppers? I've only had a double whopper.
You order another burger and slide it in slowly.
You lost me. But I don't want any further clarification, please.
You meat-blocked me bro, I thought you were the master meat smoker..... 'na na'
BK is flame broiled, not smoked. Big difference.
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Honestly-- WHO GIVES A FUCK?
The fact that you're giving this kid shit over his reddit posts is the height of retardation. This site is culty as fuck when it comes to chastising members who are misguided on what it means to be quit. It's as if you're more interested in fanning flames than actually having a conversation about nicotine addiction.
That's why all I do is this: I come here, I post roll, and I go about my nic-free day like a fucking man. How's that for some Brooklyn-based honesty for you fuckheads? 'Finger'
The dude is keeping an emergency can in his car in case he needs it. I give a fuck about that. Are you okay with that??
Per the emergency can-- IMO, if he is gonna cave, he's gonna fuckin cave. It's his life and if he wants to die, so be it. No emergency can will stop him. And let's be honest, when it comes to a cave, what is the difference between having it in your toolbox versus the 711 up the block? A cave is a cave is a cave.
And have you thought of the possibility that it is actually a successful coping mechanism for some people during the withdrawal process? My instagram newsfeed is full of clowns packing fattys (See: @Bishop_Dips), glorifying the can. I must follow over 50 people whose sole purpose is to post dip pics on their account. In some weird way which I can't explain, having my feed flooded by dippers has actually helped me in my quit.
Now, many people on here would burn me at the stake for such an ungodly act. Oh well.
That's why I keep my posts limited to roll and roll only.
Too many clowns on here jumping on the social bandwagon, as if you know this man and his struggle personally. We are just a collection of ones and zeros on a screen with a common goal, yet everyone here wants to act like they are the be-all-and-end-all of the psychology of nicotine addiction.
You wanna talk seriously about saving lives on this site? Then fucking do so in a constructive way. Not running people out of here the moment they don't conform to YOUR style of quit.
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Honestly-- WHO GIVES A FUCK?
The fact that you're giving this kid shit over his reddit posts is the height of retardation. This site is culty as fuck when it comes to chastising members who are misguided on what it means to be quit. It's as if you're more interested in fanning flames than actually having a conversation about nicotine addiction.
That's why all I do is this: I come here, I post roll, and I go about my nic-free day like a fucking man. How's that for some Brooklyn-based honesty for you fuckheads? 'Finger'
The dude is keeping an emergency can in his car in case he needs it. I give a fuck about that. Are you okay with that??
Per the emergency can-- IMO, if he is gonna cave, he's gonna fuckin cave. It's his life and if he wants to die, so be it. No emergency can will stop him. And let's be honest, when it comes to a cave, what is the difference between having it in your toolbox versus the 711 up the block? A cave is a cave is a cave.
And have you thought of the possibility that it is actually a successful coping mechanism for some people during the withdrawal process? My instagram newsfeed is full of clowns packing fattys (See: @Bishop_Dips), glorifying the can. I must follow over 50 people whose sole purpose is to post dip pics on their account. In some weird way which I can't explain, having my feed flooded by dippers has actually helped me in my quit.
Now, many people on here would burn me at the stake for such an ungodly act. Oh well.
That's why I keep my posts limited to roll and roll only.
Too many clowns on here jumping on the social bandwagon, as if you know this man and his struggle personally. We are just a collection of ones and zeros on a screen with a common goal, yet everyone here wants to act like they are the be-all-and-end-all of the psychology of nicotine addiction.
You wanna talk seriously about saving lives on this site? Then fucking do so in a constructive way. Not running people out of here the moment they don't conform to YOUR style of quit.
Do you think it's rude to ask questions?
I don't know. Seems like a smart thing to do, psychologically speaking, to get rid of your tobacco and to quit reading and posting on tobacco glorifying websites when one is embarking on a final quit. Maybe I'm stupid.
I guess some of us nicotine addicts are different. I guess I will cede you to your logic on this matter. I will keep my logic and I will continue to dole it to whoever the fuck I feel like other than you. Because I know for me personally that keeping emergency cans in my toolbox and in my glove compartment would not be good for my quit. Especially early in the quit. And I know after reading that nic head website, Dippit, that there is nothing productive to be had there, for me anyway. I guess for him it helps him stay quit to talk to a bunch of dippers who are talking about how much they love dip. Oh well. Hopefully if I ever spout off that I'm keeping emergency cans on hand and that I'm posting and reading on the Dippit forum, some of my KTC brothers will ask me what the hell I'm thinking. That's pretty much why I'm here, for the accountability.
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Honestly-- WHO GIVES A FUCK?
The fact that you're giving this kid shit over his reddit posts is the height of retardation. This site is culty as fuck when it comes to chastising members who are misguided on what it means to be quit. It's as if you're more interested in fanning flames than actually having a conversation about nicotine addiction.
That's why all I do is this: I come here, I post roll, and I go about my nic-free day like a fucking man. How's that for some Brooklyn-based honesty for you fuckheads? 'Finger'
The dude is keeping an emergency can in his car in case he needs it. I give a fuck about that. Are you okay with that??
Per the emergency can-- IMO, if he is gonna cave, he's gonna fuckin cave. It's his life and if he wants to die, so be it. No emergency can will stop him. And let's be honest, when it comes to a cave, what is the difference between having it in your toolbox versus the 711 up the block? A cave is a cave is a cave.
And have you thought of the possibility that it is actually a successful coping mechanism for some people during the withdrawal process? My instagram newsfeed is full of clowns packing fattys (See: @Bishop_Dips), glorifying the can. I must follow over 50 people whose sole purpose is to post dip pics on their account. In some weird way which I can't explain, having my feed flooded by dippers has actually helped me in my quit.
Now, many people on here would burn me at the stake for such an ungodly act. Oh well.
That's why I keep my posts limited to roll and roll only.
Too many clowns on here jumping on the social bandwagon, as if you know this man and his struggle personally. We are just a collection of ones and zeros on a screen with a common goal, yet everyone here wants to act like they are the be-all-and-end-all of the psychology of nicotine addiction.
You wanna talk seriously about saving lives on this site? Then fucking do so in a constructive way. Not running people out of here the moment they don't conform to YOUR style of quit.
Do you think it's rude to ask questions?
I don't know. Seems like a smart thing to do, psychologically speaking, to get rid of your tobacco and to quit reading and posting on tobacco glorifying websites when one is embarking on a final quit. Maybe I'm stupid.
I guess some of us nicotine addicts are different. I guess I will cede you to your logic on this matter. I will keep my logic and I will continue to dole it to whoever the fuck I feel like other than you. Because I know for me personally that keeping emergency cans in my toolbox and in my glove compartment would not be good for my quit. Especially early in the quit. And I know after reading that nic head website, Dippit, that there is nothing productive to be had there, for me anyway. I guess for him it helps him stay quit to talk to a bunch of dippers who are talking about how much they love dip. Oh well. Hopefully if I ever spout off that I'm keeping emergency cans on hand and that I'm posting and reading on the Dippit forum, some of my KTC brothers will ask me what the hell I'm thinking. That's pretty much why I'm here, for the accountability.
Agreed, but accountability should be gained - and end - with ROLL.
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
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Honestly-- WHO GIVES A FUCK?
The fact that you're giving this kid shit over his reddit posts is the height of retardation. This site is culty as fuck when it comes to chastising members who are misguided on what it means to be quit. It's as if you're more interested in fanning flames than actually having a conversation about nicotine addiction.
That's why all I do is this: I come here, I post roll, and I go about my nic-free day like a fucking man. How's that for some Brooklyn-based honesty for you fuckheads? 'Finger'
The dude is keeping an emergency can in his car in case he needs it. I give a fuck about that. Are you okay with that??
Per the emergency can-- IMO, if he is gonna cave, he's gonna fuckin cave. It's his life and if he wants to die, so be it. No emergency can will stop him. And let's be honest, when it comes to a cave, what is the difference between having it in your toolbox versus the 711 up the block? A cave is a cave is a cave.
And have you thought of the possibility that it is actually a successful coping mechanism for some people during the withdrawal process? My instagram newsfeed is full of clowns packing fattys (See: @Bishop_Dips), glorifying the can. I must follow over 50 people whose sole purpose is to post dip pics on their account. In some weird way which I can't explain, having my feed flooded by dippers has actually helped me in my quit.
Now, many people on here would burn me at the stake for such an ungodly act. Oh well.
That's why I keep my posts limited to roll and roll only.
Too many clowns on here jumping on the social bandwagon, as if you know this man and his struggle personally. We are just a collection of ones and zeros on a screen with a common goal, yet everyone here wants to act like they are the be-all-and-end-all of the psychology of nicotine addiction.
You wanna talk seriously about saving lives on this site? Then fucking do so in a constructive way. Not running people out of here the moment they don't conform to YOUR style of quit.
Do you think it's rude to ask questions?
I don't know. Seems like a smart thing to do, psychologically speaking, to get rid of your tobacco and to quit reading and posting on tobacco glorifying websites when one is embarking on a final quit. Maybe I'm stupid.
I guess some of us nicotine addicts are different. I guess I will cede you to your logic on this matter. I will keep my logic and I will continue to dole it to whoever the fuck I feel like other than you. Because I know for me personally that keeping emergency cans in my toolbox and in my glove compartment would not be good for my quit. Especially early in the quit. And I know after reading that nic head website, Dippit, that there is nothing productive to be had there, for me anyway. I guess for him it helps him stay quit to talk to a bunch of dippers who are talking about how much they love dip. Oh well. Hopefully if I ever spout off that I'm keeping emergency cans on hand and that I'm posting and reading on the Dippit forum, some of my KTC brothers will ask me what the hell I'm thinking. That's pretty much why I'm here, for the accountability.
Agreed, but accountability should be gained - and end - with ROLL.
I think its a mindset thing. I've seen badass quitters get hurt by curveballs from advertisers and users. I, myself, thrive on confrontation. Now, I don't follow those assholes on twitter or watch those horrible youtube videos where they shove an entire can in their mouth...but I reasonably attack flawed logic propagated by the tobacco industry.
In my opinion, Hawk thought he was badass in this because I was flaunting this very fragile quit in front of others that either don't want to or "can't" quit. They offer no advice. However, we're doing it here. The trophy can is very troubling. The difference between the car and the store is a few steps
Plan with cave (no trophy can)
Decide to cave
Go out door
get into truck
turn on truck
navigate to store
shut truck off
get out of truck
go inside store
ask for a can
pay for the can
go back to truck
open can
CAVE
Plan with cave (trophy can)
Decide to cave
Go out door
get into truck
open can
CAVE
Being quit is a series of decisions, and keeping as many steps to a cave between that initial thought and the act could make a difference between caving. Yeah...ultimately, he has to choose to do this but it's just simple logic: If you're quit, why hold onto the dried up stuff?
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Huh, sounds like RoyalCowboy, who I grilled for a trophy can, and who just hit the HoF and thanked me in his HoF roast. But what the fuck do I know about being quit...............
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
You do understand that this site is so that you can quit with somebody and not just beside them, right? Did you reach out to this unnamed gentleman?
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
You do understand that this site is so that you can quit with somebody and not just beside them, right? Did you reach out to this unnamed gentleman?
Nope. He was clearly already on his way out after the reaming he received here. At KTC. A community of support. Over a trophy tin.
Plus, I already mentioned in previous posts that I fundamentally disagree with much of the sociopolitical and, frankly, cult-like tactics employed on this site OTHER than posting roll and reading the positive intros for my own personal inspiration. There are people on here who have my number, they know who they are, and I have theirs. Aside from that, I keep my distance from the schoolgirl attitude I've observed all too often. Obviously, I'm not the first person to say it. But just felt like voicing my opinion in this thread due to the similarities of my own circumstances (following dippers on IG).
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Huh, sounds like RoyalCowboy, who I grilled for a trophy can, and who just hit the HoF and thanked me in his HoF roast. But what the fuck do I know about being quit...............
Unlikely. This was just a few weeks ago. Couldn't have hit HoF by now.
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
You do understand that this site is so that you can quit with somebody and not just beside them, right? Did you reach out to this unnamed gentleman?
Nope. He was clearly already on his way out after the reaming he received here. At KTC. A community of support. Over a trophy tin.
Plus, I already mentioned in previous posts that I fundamentally disagree with much of the sociopolitical and, frankly, cult-like tactics employed on this site OTHER than posting roll and reading the positive intros for my own personal inspiration. There are people on here who have my number, they know who they are, and I have theirs. Aside from that, I keep my distance from the schoolgirl attitude I've observed all too often. Obviously, I'm not the first person to say it. But just felt like voicing my opinion in this thread due to the similarities of my own circumstances (following dippers on IG).
About a month into my quit, I stumbled onto some dipshit on Youtube who glorifies dipping, and like an addict, I watched a couple, one in particular where a bunch of dippers stuffed a whole can into their mouths. I haven't been back since.
If I were a sex addict, should I be watching porn?
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Yeah well I've seen about 30 guys come on here with a trophy can, or a half empty can they keep for "comfort" disappear. They weren't run off either. They were full of shit when they said they were keeping the can around for "comfort". The proof is in the pudding. And if you see guys fail after doing this, wouldn't it be wise to advise against it? I mean if you read this dudes blog he says point blank that he's keeping the can so if and most likely when he caves (because most people fail their first time) that it will be better for him to only finish his can, as opposed to going to the store and buying a full can.
Do you not see the fault in that logic? I do and would be fool not to point it out. Are you familiar with the law of addiction? It takes only one PINCH to go from quit to full blown addict again. One pinch.
Say what you want about us or me and my ways. But I will says this...There is always a method to my madness. There is always a reason I sometimes use vinegar as opposed to honey. Sweet talk wouldn't have kept this guy around. Piss him off, get him to stay out of spite...thought maybe that would work. There were plenty of people "nice" to him. Did he stay for them? Nope he was going to leave regardless.
I'm not here to micromanage anyone's quit and I'm not a psychologist, but I am a quitter. I've been through a lot and have seen/read certain things that lead to failure and success. When I see the red flags of failure I will chime in every time. I won't always be snuggly wuggly about it but I will always do it because I always want to see that person quit.
Nicotine addiction is nasty. Probably the most underrated addiction on the planet. I do not wish it on my worst enemy. Anything I can do to help a person quit, I will do it. People dontike the way I do it...Too damn bad.
Quit on...
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Honestly-- WHO GIVES A FUCK?
The fact that you're giving this kid shit over his reddit posts is the height of retardation. This site is culty as fuck when it comes to chastising members who are misguided on what it means to be quit. It's as if you're more interested in fanning flames than actually having a conversation about nicotine addiction.
That's why all I do is this: I come here, I post roll, and I go about my nic-free day like a fucking man. How's that for some Brooklyn-based honesty for you fuckheads? 'Finger'
The dude is keeping an emergency can in his car in case he needs it. I give a fuck about that. Are you okay with that??
Per the emergency can-- IMO, if he is gonna cave, he's gonna fuckin cave. It's his life and if he wants to die, so be it. No emergency can will stop him. And let's be honest, when it comes to a cave, what is the difference between having it in your toolbox versus the 711 up the block? A cave is a cave is a cave.
And have you thought of the possibility that it is actually a successful coping mechanism for some people during the withdrawal process? My instagram newsfeed is full of clowns packing fattys (See: @Bishop_Dips), glorifying the can. I must follow over 50 people whose sole purpose is to post dip pics on their account. In some weird way which I can't explain, having my feed flooded by dippers has actually helped me in my quit.
Now, many people on here would burn me at the stake for such an ungodly act. Oh well.
That's why I keep my posts limited to roll and roll only.
Too many clowns on here jumping on the social bandwagon, as if you know this man and his struggle personally. We are just a collection of ones and zeros on a screen with a common goal, yet everyone here wants to act like they are the be-all-and-end-all of the psychology of nicotine addiction.
You wanna talk seriously about saving lives on this site? Then fucking do so in a constructive way. Not running people out of here the moment they don't conform to YOUR style of quit.
Do you think it's rude to ask questions?
I don't know. Seems like a smart thing to do, psychologically speaking, to get rid of your tobacco and to quit reading and posting on tobacco glorifying websites when one is embarking on a final quit. Maybe I'm stupid.
I guess some of us nicotine addicts are different. I guess I will cede you to your logic on this matter. I will keep my logic and I will continue to dole it to whoever the fuck I feel like other than you. Because I know for me personally that keeping emergency cans in my toolbox and in my glove compartment would not be good for my quit. Especially early in the quit. And I know after reading that nic head website, Dippit, that there is nothing productive to be had there, for me anyway. I guess for him it helps him stay quit to talk to a bunch of dippers who are talking about how much they love dip. Oh well. Hopefully if I ever spout off that I'm keeping emergency cans on hand and that I'm posting and reading on the Dippit forum, some of my KTC brothers will ask me what the hell I'm thinking. That's pretty much why I'm here, for the accountability.
Agreed, but accountability should be gained - and end - with ROLL.
I think the more accountability you can get the better. I've seen plenty of people who just post roll and do nothing else, who end up caving. It's like clockwork as a matter if fact. There's a difference between calling someone out by questioning their methods (trying to get them on the right path) and trying to drive someone ou of here. I'm more than happy to talk to hawk on the phone and try to set him up on the right path. If you want KTC to become more complacent when it comes To trophy cans and shit like that, then I guess that's your prerogative. I, on the other hand, prefer are hardcore place where shit like that isn't tolerated. And I'll take accountability in all forms not just roll, thank you very much.
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
You do understand that this site is so that you can quit with somebody and not just beside them, right? Did you reach out to this unnamed gentleman?
Nope. He was clearly already on his way out after the reaming he received here. At KTC. A community of support. Over a trophy tin.
Plus, I already mentioned in previous posts that I fundamentally disagree with much of the sociopolitical and, frankly, cult-like tactics employed on this site OTHER than posting roll and reading the positive intros for my own personal inspiration. There are people on here who have my number, they know who they are, and I have theirs. Aside from that, I keep my distance from the schoolgirl attitude I've observed all too often. Obviously, I'm not the first person to say it. But just felt like voicing my opinion in this thread due to the similarities of my own circumstances (following dippers on IG).
About a month into my quit, I stumbled onto some dipshit on Youtube who glorifies dipping, and like an addict, I watched a couple, one in particular where a bunch of dippers stuffed a whole can into their mouths. I haven't been back since.
If I were a sex addict, should I be watching porn?
Dude...early in my quit someone posted a link to some mudjug guy. I watched that shit and was jacked up for a month. I couldn't handle it. Could I now? Sure, but at that stage I simply didn't need to see it. You have to be mindful of waving stuff like that in people's face. The power of suggestion is real.
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Yeah well I've seen about 30 guys come on here with a trophy can, or a half empty can they keep for "comfort" disappear. They weren't run off either. They were full of shit when they said they were keeping the can around for "comfort". The proof is in the pudding. And if you see guys fail after doing this, wouldn't it be wise to advise against it? I mean if you read this dudes blog he says point blank that he's keeping the can so if and most likely when he caves (because most people fail their first time) that it will be better for him to only finish his can, as opposed to going to the store and buying a full can.
Do you not see the fault in that logic? I do and would be fool not to point it out. Are you familiar with the law of addiction? It takes only one PINCH to go from quit to full blown addict again. One pinch.
Say what you want about us or me and my ways. But I will says this...There is always a method to my madness. There is always a reason I sometimes use vinegar as opposed to honey. Sweet talk wouldn't have kept this guy around. Piss him off, get him to stay out of spite...thought maybe that would work. There were plenty of people "nice" to him. Did he stay for them? Nope he was going to leave regardless.
I'm not here to micromanage anyone's quit and I'm not a psychologist, but I am a quitter. I've been through a lot and have seen/read certain things that lead to failure and success. When I see the red flags of failure I will chime in every time. I won't always be snuggly wuggly about it but I will always do it because I always want to see that person quit.
Nicotine addiction is nasty. Probably the most underrated addiction on the planet. I do not wish it on my worst enemy. Anything I can do to help a person quit, I will do it. People dontike the way I do it...Too damn bad.
Quit on...
So what would you say to someone like me who is HoF bound with a 100% roll rating, but follows nearly 50 instagram accounts dedicated to dip and/or dip lifestyle?
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Yeah well I've seen about 30 guys come on here with a trophy can, or a half empty can they keep for "comfort" disappear. They weren't run off either. They were full of shit when they said they were keeping the can around for "comfort". The proof is in the pudding. And if you see guys fail after doing this, wouldn't it be wise to advise against it? I mean if you read this dudes blog he says point blank that he's keeping the can so if and most likely when he caves (because most people fail their first time) that it will be better for him to only finish his can, as opposed to going to the store and buying a full can.
Do you not see the fault in that logic? I do and would be fool not to point it out. Are you familiar with the law of addiction? It takes only one PINCH to go from quit to full blown addict again. One pinch.
Say what you want about us or me and my ways. But I will says this...There is always a method to my madness. There is always a reason I sometimes use vinegar as opposed to honey. Sweet talk wouldn't have kept this guy around. Piss him off, get him to stay out of spite...thought maybe that would work. There were plenty of people "nice" to him. Did he stay for them? Nope he was going to leave regardless.
I'm not here to micromanage anyone's quit and I'm not a psychologist, but I am a quitter. I've been through a lot and have seen/read certain things that lead to failure and success. When I see the red flags of failure I will chime in every time. I won't always be snuggly wuggly about it but I will always do it because I always want to see that person quit.
Nicotine addiction is nasty. Probably the most underrated addiction on the planet. I do not wish it on my worst enemy. Anything I can do to help a person quit, I will do it. People dontike the way I do it...Too damn bad.
Quit on...
So what would you say to someone like me who is HoF bound with a 100% roll rating, but follows nearly 50 instagram accounts dedicated to dip and/or dip lifestyle?
I would say "Why?".
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Yeah well I've seen about 30 guys come on here with a trophy can, or a half empty can they keep for "comfort" disappear. They weren't run off either. They were full of shit when they said they were keeping the can around for "comfort". The proof is in the pudding. And if you see guys fail after doing this, wouldn't it be wise to advise against it? I mean if you read this dudes blog he says point blank that he's keeping the can so if and most likely when he caves (because most people fail their first time) that it will be better for him to only finish his can, as opposed to going to the store and buying a full can.
Do you not see the fault in that logic? I do and would be fool not to point it out. Are you familiar with the law of addiction? It takes only one PINCH to go from quit to full blown addict again. One pinch.
Say what you want about us or me and my ways. But I will says this...There is always a method to my madness. There is always a reason I sometimes use vinegar as opposed to honey. Sweet talk wouldn't have kept this guy around. Piss him off, get him to stay out of spite...thought maybe that would work. There were plenty of people "nice" to him. Did he stay for them? Nope he was going to leave regardless.
I'm not here to micromanage anyone's quit and I'm not a psychologist, but I am a quitter. I've been through a lot and have seen/read certain things that lead to failure and success. When I see the red flags of failure I will chime in every time. I won't always be snuggly wuggly about it but I will always do it because I always want to see that person quit.
Nicotine addiction is nasty. Probably the most underrated addiction on the planet. I do not wish it on my worst enemy. Anything I can do to help a person quit, I will do it. People dontike the way I do it...Too damn bad.
Quit on...
So what would you say to someone like me who is HoF bound with a 100% roll rating, but follows nearly 50 instagram accounts dedicated to dip and/or dip lifestyle?
I would say "Why?".
I'd say good on you, but be careful man and stay quit.
Now if you stayed posting links to those pics on here...then that would cause a problem.
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Yeah well I've seen about 30 guys come on here with a trophy can, or a half empty can they keep for "comfort" disappear. They weren't run off either. They were full of shit when they said they were keeping the can around for "comfort". The proof is in the pudding. And if you see guys fail after doing this, wouldn't it be wise to advise against it? I mean if you read this dudes blog he says point blank that he's keeping the can so if and most likely when he caves (because most people fail their first time) that it will be better for him to only finish his can, as opposed to going to the store and buying a full can.
Do you not see the fault in that logic? I do and would be fool not to point it out. Are you familiar with the law of addiction? It takes only one PINCH to go from quit to full blown addict again. One pinch.
Say what you want about us or me and my ways. But I will says this...There is always a method to my madness. There is always a reason I sometimes use vinegar as opposed to honey. Sweet talk wouldn't have kept this guy around. Piss him off, get him to stay out of spite...thought maybe that would work. There were plenty of people "nice" to him. Did he stay for them? Nope he was going to leave regardless.
I'm not here to micromanage anyone's quit and I'm not a psychologist, but I am a quitter. I've been through a lot and have seen/read certain things that lead to failure and success. When I see the red flags of failure I will chime in every time. I won't always be snuggly wuggly about it but I will always do it because I always want to see that person quit.
Nicotine addiction is nasty. Probably the most underrated addiction on the planet. I do not wish it on my worst enemy. Anything I can do to help a person quit, I will do it. People dontike the way I do it...Too damn bad.
Quit on...
So what would you say to someone like me who is HoF bound with a 100% roll rating, but follows nearly 50 instagram accounts dedicated to dip and/or dip lifestyle?
I would say "Why?".
Because in some weird, inexplicable way it motivates my quit... arguably in the same fashion that an empty trophy can might provide for someone else.
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Yeah well I've seen about 30 guys come on here with a trophy can, or a half empty can they keep for "comfort" disappear. They weren't run off either. They were full of shit when they said they were keeping the can around for "comfort". The proof is in the pudding. And if you see guys fail after doing this, wouldn't it be wise to advise against it? I mean if you read this dudes blog he says point blank that he's keeping the can so if and most likely when he caves (because most people fail their first time) that it will be better for him to only finish his can, as opposed to going to the store and buying a full can.
Do you not see the fault in that logic? I do and would be fool not to point it out. Are you familiar with the law of addiction? It takes only one PINCH to go from quit to full blown addict again. One pinch.
Say what you want about us or me and my ways. But I will says this...There is always a method to my madness. There is always a reason I sometimes use vinegar as opposed to honey. Sweet talk wouldn't have kept this guy around. Piss him off, get him to stay out of spite...thought maybe that would work. There were plenty of people "nice" to him. Did he stay for them? Nope he was going to leave regardless.
I'm not here to micromanage anyone's quit and I'm not a psychologist, but I am a quitter. I've been through a lot and have seen/read certain things that lead to failure and success. When I see the red flags of failure I will chime in every time. I won't always be snuggly wuggly about it but I will always do it because I always want to see that person quit.
Nicotine addiction is nasty. Probably the most underrated addiction on the planet. I do not wish it on my worst enemy. Anything I can do to help a person quit, I will do it. People dontike the way I do it...Too damn bad.
Quit on...
So what would you say to someone like me who is HoF bound with a 100% roll rating, but follows nearly 50 instagram accounts dedicated to dip and/or dip lifestyle?
I would say "Why?".
Because in some weird, inexplicable way it motivates my quit... arguably in the same fashion that an empty trophy can might provide for someone else.
Whatever blows your hair back, I guess...I've never heard of that one but I have heard of dudes keeping a tin in the glove box of their car as "comfort" only to cave, lie about it, and get banned from the site.
Thus I highly warn against it.
Now if you some day just disappear, which I hope you do not. In the future I will rail against others who follow dippers on instagram.
Why do they post that stuff on there anyway? I dipped for 15 years. I never thought to take pics of myself doing it and brag about it, like it made me some tough guy. Odd.
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Now if you some day just disappear, which I hope you do not. In the future I will rail against others who follow dippers on instagram.
Odd.
Therein lies the problem- understanding the difference between cause and correlation.
If I were to cave and disappear, how are you to assume that it was my following dipping accounts on IG which caused my cave? Correlation, perhaps. But cause?
Would you acknowledge the notion that there could be other variables in ones life that, shockingly enough, you are not privy to? This is the internet, after all.
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While I'm at it, let me take it a step further.
I saw one dude come on here a few weeks back- motivated, seeking support, accountability.
Made the mistake of mentioning that he wanted to keep his final (albeit, EMPTY) tin of Skoal as a trophy of sorts, presumably to commemorate a turning point in his life.
Man, you guys sure tore him a new one for that. Doubtful he ever came back. Who knows if he went back to dipping or not.
The fact remains, I find this site useful in primarily two areas: reading intros (well, only the ones not controversial enough for the ideologues to spew their bullshit), and posting fucking roll. Other than that, I see a lot of 1) people here quick to pass judgement, 2) wannabe psychologists, and 3) those who want to micromanage modes of being quit. Quite hypocritical for a bunch of guys who - allegedly - are looking to save lives and subvert dip culture.
Yeah well I've seen about 30 guys come on here with a trophy can, or a half empty can they keep for "comfort" disappear. They weren't run off either. They were full of shit when they said they were keeping the can around for "comfort". The proof is in the pudding. And if you see guys fail after doing this, wouldn't it be wise to advise against it? I mean if you read this dudes blog he says point blank that he's keeping the can so if and most likely when he caves (because most people fail their first time) that it will be better for him to only finish his can, as opposed to going to the store and buying a full can.
Do you not see the fault in that logic? I do and would be fool not to point it out. Are you familiar with the law of addiction? It takes only one PINCH to go from quit to full blown addict again. One pinch.
Say what you want about us or me and my ways. But I will says this...There is always a method to my madness. There is always a reason I sometimes use vinegar as opposed to honey. Sweet talk wouldn't have kept this guy around. Piss him off, get him to stay out of spite...thought maybe that would work. There were plenty of people "nice" to him. Did he stay for them? Nope he was going to leave regardless.
I'm not here to micromanage anyone's quit and I'm not a psychologist, but I am a quitter. I've been through a lot and have seen/read certain things that lead to failure and success. When I see the red flags of failure I will chime in every time. I won't always be snuggly wuggly about it but I will always do it because I always want to see that person quit.
Nicotine addiction is nasty. Probably the most underrated addiction on the planet. I do not wish it on my worst enemy. Anything I can do to help a person quit, I will do it. People dontike the way I do it...Too damn bad.
Quit on...
So what would you say to someone like me who is HoF bound with a 100% roll rating, but follows nearly 50 instagram accounts dedicated to dip and/or dip lifestyle?
I would say "good. stay quit man."
What would you say to quitter with almost 1200 days that still remembers what lead to his failure last time?
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Now if you some day just disappear, which I hope you do not. In the future I will rail against others who follow dippers on instagram.
Odd.
Therein lies the problem- understanding the difference between cause and correlation.
If I were to cave and disappear, how are you to assume that it was my following dipping accounts on IG which caused my cave? Correlation, perhaps. But cause?
Would you acknowledge the notion that there could be other variables in ones life that, shockingly enough, you are not privy to? This is the internet, after all.
I find the age differences here at the KTC cause issues. I am 45, and remember when there weren't video games, and TV had 3-4 channels. So posting pics of me dipping would be horrifying, why post a pic of me in an act of shame. Might as well be a pic of me punching the clown again 'winker' . Being serious, the generational gap gets swekked here - I don't need social media in my life to be a person - I have no idea what instergram even is, and my FB and Twitter accounts aren't even in my real name. I just liked Mafia Wars 4 years ago. Now you can see the egg rolls I cooked yesterday.
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Now if you some day just disappear, which I hope you do not. In the future I will rail against others who follow dippers on instagram.
Odd.
Therein lies the problem- understanding the difference between cause and correlation.
If I were to cave and disappear, how are you to assume that it was my following dipping accounts on IG which caused my cave? Correlation, perhaps. But cause?
Would you acknowledge the notion that there could be other variables in ones life that, shockingly enough, you are not privy to? This is the internet, after all.
Because he would be right.
If you fail now, your words will haunt you. It means that your logic in this quit was faulty. You left the door open and you weren't doing everything in your power to stay quit. While maybe not specifically the causation of this hypothetical failure, your posts tell me that you are simply quitting here beside us and not with us.
So, what I'm saying is, I don't care how you use the site to stay quit. Prove me wrong? Fine. Go for it. That means the site is working. Prove me right? Sad for you, but there is a wealth of knowledge here and statistics and examples that support why we can be so adamant about certain acts in a quit.
What it ultimately comes down to is that we come here to help us quit. Do you need help quitting?
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Now if you some day just disappear, which I hope you do not. In the future I will rail against others who follow dippers on instagram.
Odd.
Therein lies the problem- understanding the difference between cause and correlation.
If I were to cave and disappear, how are you to assume that it was my following dipping accounts on IG which caused my cave? Correlation, perhaps. But cause?
Would you acknowledge the notion that there could be other variables in ones life that, shockingly enough, you are not privy to? This is the internet, after all.
Logic. Since you would be a fart in the wind I would be left to assume it would have been a factor. But...Since you were such a pussy and just bolted without a word there would be no way to know for sure. However, you bet your fucking ass if another guy came through here with the same story as yours, I would tell them about you.
I'm really not interested in arguing shit about you, that has not happened and I do not wish to happen.
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I'd suggest we move the convo to FkSkoal's intro and off of the troll's intro. FkSkoal is a bad ass quitter, and this thread - to quote another bad ass quitter - is a fart in the wind.
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Can anyone tell me if this guy caved? He hasn't updated his reddit whatever thing since 10/5
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I know I said I wasn't coming back here, but I figured I'd share my update - I haven't caved. Day #3 went awesome, between going to work and going to the gym I barely even noticed something was missing. I also joined a different quit website, but last night's experience really soured me from the whole online support thing anyway. Trolls are everywhere, and they're here too. Instead, I'm going to go old-school and rely on family and friends - people who actually know me.
I made an appointment with my state's Quit Line for some coaching sessions and info, apparently they've got a good record for helping people quit too. It was a very positive and motivational experience, a complete 180 from what dealing with you guys. (FkSkoal is rad though, I completely agreed with him on all the things he said.)
I kept tabs on this forum today and was really unimpressed. I was so angry last night that it was the closest I came to caving in. I use dip as a coping mechanism for when my emotions get out of check, so it's very important that I keep calm if I want to stay quit, particularly while I'm still new at quitting. I would be an idiot to expose myself to the garbage this site put me through last night.
Apparently I'm not the only person you guys have eaten alive, I feel bad for the guy with the trophy tin. I still have more than 500 empties I was storing up to build a beer-pong table out of or something like that. I can only imagine the reaction you guys would have to me keeping those around, even though I have no intention of actually keeping whatever I build out of them.
This will be the last you've heard from me.
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I know I said I wasn't coming back here, but I figured I'd share my update - I haven't caved. Day #3 went awesome, between going to work and going to the gym I barely even noticed something was missing. I also joined a different quit website, but last night's experience really soured me from the whole online support thing anyway. Trolls are everywhere, and they're here too. Instead, I'm going to go old-school and rely on family and friends - people who actually know me.
I made an appointment with my state's Quit Line for some coaching sessions and info, apparently they've got a good record for helping people quit too. It was a very positive and motivational experience, a complete 180 from what dealing with you guys. (FkSkoal is rad though, I completely agreed with him on all the things he said.)
I kept tabs on this forum today and was really unimpressed. I was so angry last night that it was the closest I came to caving in. I use dip as a coping mechanism for when my emotions get out of check, so it's very important that I keep calm if I want to stay quit, particularly while I'm still new at quitting. I would be an idiot to expose myself to the garbage this site put me through last night.
Apparently I'm not the only person you guys have eaten alive, I feel bad for the guy with the trophy tin. I still have more than 500 empties I was storing up to build a beer-pong table out of or something like that. I can only imagine the reaction you guys would have to me keeping those around, even though I have no intention of actually keeping whatever I build out of them.
This will be the last you've heard from me.
We get it. The approach didn't work for you. And some people may have been over the top. But stop turning this into a soap opera. Deal with it, life goes on, stop crying foul. Maybe FkSkoal is right, but the way things work around here have helped me along with a shit ton of other people. They preach what has worked for them and so many others - if it's not for you that's cool, but stop whining.
I'm glad you found a quit aid you feel will benefit you. I wish you the best in your quit, brother.
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I know I said I wasn't coming back here, but I figured I'd share my update - I haven't caved. Day #3 went awesome, between going to work and going to the gym I barely even noticed something was missing. I also joined a different quit website, but last night's experience really soured me from the whole online support thing anyway. Trolls are everywhere, and they're here too. Instead, I'm going to go old-school and rely on family and friends - people who actually know me.
I made an appointment with my state's Quit Line for some coaching sessions and info, apparently they've got a good record for helping people quit too. It was a very positive and motivational experience, a complete 180 from what dealing with you guys. (FkSkoal is rad though, I completely agreed with him on all the things he said.)
I kept tabs on this forum today and was really unimpressed. I was so angry last night that it was the closest I came to caving in. I use dip as a coping mechanism for when my emotions get out of check, so it's very important that I keep calm if I want to stay quit, particularly while I'm still new at quitting. I would be an idiot to expose myself to the garbage this site put me through last night.
Apparently I'm not the only person you guys have eaten alive, I feel bad for the guy with the trophy tin. I still have more than 500 empties I was storing up to build a beer-pong table out of or something like that. I can only imagine the reaction you guys would have to me keeping those around, even though I have no intention of actually keeping whatever I build out of them.
This will be the last you've heard from me.
I've never seen such a thin skinned pussy in my life.
Hey man, good luck with your quit. I hope your family and friends tell you exactly what you want to hear and you go the rest of your life without ever getting angry again.
I used the "quit line" here in Michigan. They are very positive. They also don't know dick about quitting chew.
Did you ever consider that rather than going "old school", where everybody knows and likes you, that maybe what you really need is to go new school where nobody knows you...YET. Maybe a little different perspective?
Nah...we're only 20,000 people going through the same shit as you. What do we know.
See ya, Sally
I'll bet money you'll be poking around here again. And you should.
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Diesel2112, your attitude is exactly why I'm not coming here again. You managed to tick me off in one post, right after I said keeping calm is important right now.
What was the point in that? Are you here to help or be a troll?
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Diesel2112, your attitude is exactly why I'm not coming here again. You managed to tick me off in one post, right after I said keeping calm is important right now.
What was the point in that? Are you here to help or be a troll?
What was the point in saying "This will be the last you've heard from me", and then sticking around to see what people wrote? Stop with the drama, go to your other site and stop seeking attention from people here. Nobody feels bad for you and nobody here is gonna coddle your balls. There are people on here who actually need and want the help of these people.
You said your piece now just go.
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You're still doing it. You're either a troll, hungry for attention, or a drama queen. Or all 3. Just give it up, bud. I'm done wasting my time on you and I hope for the love of god Diesel is too.
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Diesel2112, your attitude is exactly why I'm not coming here again. You managed to tick me off in one post, right after I said keeping calm is important right now.
What was the point in that? Are you here to help or be a troll?
Yeah dude, I'm a troll. I've been here for 855 days trolling people.
I'm actually trying to help you. Your ego just isn't allowing you to see it.
You're dogging this site and looking for every excuse to leave...YET you're still lurking. I think it's pretty obvious you see value in this place, you're just afraid fo admit it and buy in. Instead you have an alternate plan hatched that you know will be a soft landing if you fail.
Start posting roll. Try it for one month and see how it works.
I promise I won't say a word to you if you post roll.
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Woah dude, that was really impressive. I'll give it a shot. And yeah, I was lurking because I do see the value in it.
I may not like most of you, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend and I really want this enemy destroyed.
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Woah dude, that was really impressive. I'll give it a shot. And yeah, I was lurking because I do see the value in it.
I may not like most of you, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend and I really want this enemy destroyed.
You don't have to like us, or me. You just have to stay quit.
We all have one thing in common...we hate nicotine and want to be quit.
Post roll and give your promise not to use for the day. Takes about 2 minutes.
Then if you have questions, are raging, want to rant, call me a piece of shit, etc...come here and let it all out.
We can take it.
Quit on...
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I hope you post roll and quit with us. I think that's the bottom line is because everyone saw your posts on that other site and were afraid you were just setting yourself up for failure. I don't think anyone wants that. Did it get blown out of proportion? Yeah. Did we all get pissy and act like asses? Yeah. We're addicts. We have issues, withdrawals, headaches, ect. Anyway. I hope you stick around. I think now that you are serious or you wouldn't be here still hashing it out.
I quit with you too
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Because you are still here, I am assuming that you are going to post roll. If you decide to stick around, you will have a shitload of badass quitters here to support you through it. The KTC way is by far the BEST way to quit. It is extreme but it works.
Post Roll and make some friends.
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A beer pong table from empty cancer cans is all I need to know. Put it next to the discarded syringe coat rack bro.
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Do you still have that "emergency" can just in case?
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Woah dude, that was really impressive. I'll give it a shot. And yeah, I was lurking because I do see the value in it.
I may not like most of you, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend and I really want this enemy destroyed.
If you're really going to destroy your enemy. You can start by destroying your "emergency" can. Please let us know when that is done.
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Post roll and get this quit going man. is that 'Emergency" can disposed of? You can't have an emergency can. That is setting yourself up to fail. Its as if you already think your going to cave. Going in with that mindset will destroy you. I think its pretty obvious that you can simply empty it, which shouldn't bother you if your clean, or have people bitch at you on here for having it. It doesn't make sense to have and is counter-productive. Switch that can with a can of fake!
Try out some of the advice here instead of bucking the trends. Listen to the Vets. Some of these guys are hundreds of days to multiple years nicotine free. They aren't here to troll you, so drink the KTC Kool-Aid and stay awhile.
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Yeah, I gave it to a friend this morning. I'm on Day 4 now, from what I read the first 3 days were the roughest so I don't think I need it now.
i had some pretty intense dipping dreams last night, looking forward to those going away since I wake up doubting my decision for a while. No worries though, those doubt go away once reality sets in and the coffee kicks in.
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Just imagine how much time you spent on your addiction. Hiding it, going to buy cancer cans, finding excuses to finger fuck that poison can.
Put as much or more energy into your QUIT as you did your addiction and do it one day at a time, every damn day and you can kill the can.
Drink the KTC kook-aid. Follow the protocol here. It's a process and it works.
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I'm doing pretty good, thanks. Keeping busy is probably the biggest help.
I never hid my habit, it's extremely common where I live and among my friends and family. It looks like most of the people on here are from the east end of the country, so it will probably seem insane but dipping is really engrained into rodeos, which are a huge part of my life. Up until recently the PBR was sponsored by US Smokeless, free samples would be given out at competitions, and the list goes on. I'm not even joking, my ex-girlfriend makes earrings out of empty tin lids.
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Yeah, I gave it to a friend this morning.
K, this kinda bugs me. The reason? Because you told me 2 days ago in chat that you dumped it.
The fuck, man? Are you here to seriously quit or are you here to just say what you think people wanna hear so they can hold your hand?
I really hope you actually got rid of it this time and that you're not wasting peoples time here.
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I'm doing pretty good, thanks. Keeping busy is probably the biggest help.
I never hid my habit, it's extremely common where I live and among my friends and family. It looks like most of the people on here are from the east end of the country, so it will probably seem insane but dipping is really engrained into rodeos, which are a huge part of my life. Up until recently the PBR was sponsored by US Smokeless, free samples would be given out at competitions, and the list goes on. I'm not even joking, my ex-girlfriend makes earrings out of empty tin lids.
There are people from all over. Nicotine addicts are everywhere- and there are plenty of eastern BAQs here on KTC. Plenty of southern gentlemen and ladies on here. A lot of active military and veteran military personnel. We have active combat personnel in our quit group. Point is no matter what you think, you aren't a special case or have it harder then anyone else here. We are all addicts. We are QUIT and we are a couple of bad decisions away from being right back to bangin' a cancer can daily.
If you open your mind you might actually learn something from some of these BAQs
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Contrary to popular belief he is not the only "cowboy" here. He's just the only one that seems to think he has to point out his "cowboy" status every time he posts. Dipping doesn't make you a cowboy. If you think that then you are definitely NOT a cowboy. At all. Shit kicker? Maybe. Bull rider? Maybe. Cowboy? Probably not. A wouldn't sit here and lurk around and manipulate people into sympathizing for him only to turn around and call names at the end of every sentence that started to sound reasonable. Right before you called people little faggots or fuckers or assholes. Starving for attention much? Gonna have to try harder to get with the program because I for one am done concerning myslef with your quit until you start posting roll and drinking the kool-aid. Drop the bullshit excuses. Not all cowboys dip. Some don't want to die a premature, painful, and pointless death.
Edit: I stand corrected as apparently you did post roll. Still, your lifestyle is not a reason to dip.
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Hawk has yet to post roll today yet we are still here arguing about this on his intro.
Contrary to popular belief he is not the only "cowboy" here. He's just the only one that seems to think he has to point out his "cowboy" status every time he posts. Dipping doesn't make you a cowboy. If you think that then you are definitely NOT a cowboy. At all. Shit kicker? Maybe. Bull rider? Maybe. Cowboy? Probably not. A cowboy wouldn't sit here and lurk around and manipulate people into sympathizing for him only to turn around and call names at the end of every sentence that started to sound reasonable. Right before you called people little faggots or fuckers or assholes. Starving for attention much? Gonna have to try harder to get with the program because I for one am done concerning myslef with your quit until you start posting roll and drinking the kool-aid. Drop the bullshit excuses. Not all cowboys dip. Some don't want to die a premature, painful, and pointless death.
Hey Cindy, he did post roll this morning but he must have gotten bumped. He posted day 4
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I also apologize for how vehemently I lash out against this cowboys dip stereotype. My husband dips, and while he doesn't necessarily beleive it necessary for him to do so, he also doesn't have any desire to quit, like you said, friends all do it, parents do it, grandparents did it, ect, that's not my problem.. They lived long happy lives? Great! I don't want my husband to die from cancer. Which is a completely possible future for me. And it makes me angry.
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HIJACK - Sup Mother Fuckers,
Hawkeye - I don't like everyone on here. And the guy callin you a thin shinned pussy is probably just mad at his dumpster fire for a football program. O-H :)
But bet your ass I get on here everyday. I read every post nearly. I agree with most advise. There is a method to the madness. Takes a while through the post-snuff fog to see it.
Everything that has been said to you is based off of the 'oh I have seen this shit before' narration. We don't give a shit about you. We are all quitters just like you. These guys know what it takes to succeed.
Congratulations on your 3 days. They are the hardest. Hang around. Post Roll
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Day #4 went awesome with even fewer cravings than yesterday. I've heard quitting is harder for some than for others, is this true? If so, I think I got lucky and am having a really easy time.
That being said, I don't want attention, I don't my hand to be held, and I still hate most of you. But, having a common enemy has me here again tonight. ...Not all of you guys suck, guys like HipHopAnonymous are awesome.
Since you guys insist on acting like you know me and think my claims of being a cowboy aren't an issue, let me fill you in a bit - rodeos are what I live for and kinda part of my job too, but everyone I know who competes and most who come and watch dip a lot. It's really really common, and I'm nervous about the next one that I signed up for before I quit. There's going to be dip everywhere in an environment that I grew up dipping around. I'm hoping I don't fall off the wagon at it - it's why I keep bringing it up because every time I do anything that involves me getting in the saddle, it was also when I dipped the most.
I'd compare it to an alcoholic pool player going to a tournament at a bar right after quitting.
I definitely don't want to quit my hobby since it's a huge part of who I am, I need to dis-associate it with my addiction. I guess I wasn't clear on that.
Cindy - Get off your high horse and stop acting like you know me. I posted roll today, or were you too stupid to see it? Also, I'll say "fuckers" but never the other F-word, that one is just as bad as the N-word. I really want to call you some choice names, but would like to play nice since you seem like you'd be most likely to understand what I'm talking about even if we don't agree on all the parts too it.
***Edit - I forgot to apologize for lying in the chatroom on Day #2. I was spazzing out like a psycho, I probably would have told you the sky was green at that time.
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Woah! Typing the word cowboy makes the little pistol guy? This whole time I thought the emoticon for cowboy was being used as sarcasm and was getting annoyed.
Awesome!
cowboy bam bam bam!
Is anyone around here into shooting sports?
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Cindy - Get off your high horse and stop acting like you know me. I posted roll today, or were you too stupid to see it? Also, I'll say "fuckers" but never the other F-word, that one is just as bad as the N-word. I really want to call you some choice names, but would like to play nice since you seem like you'd be most likely to understand what I'm talking about even if we don't agree on all the parts too it.
Before you start calling Cindy stupid you need to realize that she did not see you on roll today because someone bumped your name off of it. It happens a lot in new groups. A bump is when two or more people post at the same time and yours got overwritten. I went back and saw what happened and fixed it for you. One day you will get the fact that people here want to help but you keep being an ass, they won't.
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Well that makes sense, thanks for fixing it. Anything I can do to avoid it tomorrow morning?
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Well that makes sense, thanks for fixing it. Anything I can do to avoid it tomorrow morning?
All you can do is post and try not to bump others.
(Pssst...we have other Cowboys here and even some professional rodeo cowboys.)
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Well that makes sense, thanks for fixing it. Anything I can do to avoid it tomorrow morning?
Watch the bottom of the page where you may or may not see people posting. It happens a lot in new groups just because of the large number of posters. Big thing is to recheck a couple times a day to be sure you weren't bumped. Build the web of accountability and people will watch out for you.
Basically you can't do much about getting bumped but you can avoid bumping others by checking to see if someone else if posting at the same time. F5 (refresh) your page before posting if you have been reading a bit
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Awesome, I'll definitely give it a shot!
I'd definitely like to meet the other rodeo guys on here, because I really do think our experience is different from the typical experience. Even if Cindy doesn't agree with the whole dipping cowboy stereotype, it's disturbingly accurate up here in Wyo. When I'm at the gym, there's not a whole lot of dipping happening there - but when I go to the arena or corral, it's everywhere.
It's a really weird subculture that literally has songs about dipping such as "Copenhagen Angel." Have you ever seen girls with dip tin lids for earrings? Well at rodeos you will.
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I'm not holding it against anyone, I didn't know what I was getting into. I can see that you're all very serious about quitting and that's awesome.
So, I'm going to leave this account for a few days and come back later this week with a new one, under a new name, so you little faggots will treat me decently from the get-go.
My quit was going so much better before I got on here.
^^ that F- word? You didn't say it... I'll be damned. My bad
Off my high horse. Also apologized earlier when I was informed that you had been bumped off roll. I don't really care what you think about me. A lot like you probably don't care what I think about you. I have tried to be supportive of you and all you do is talk shit. So I talk shit back. I'm weird like that. I'm sorry.
Quit on dude
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Woah! Typing the word cowboy makes the little pistol guy? This whole time I thought the emoticon for cowboy was being used as sarcasm and was getting annoyed.
Awesome!
cowboy bam bam bam!
Is anyone around here into shooting sports?
I shoot cowboy fast draw.
I also hunt and fish but I don't consider those sports.
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Woah! Typing the word cowboy makes the little pistol guy? This whole time I thought the emoticon for cowboy was being used as sarcasm and was getting annoyed.
Awesome!
cowboy bam bam bam!
Is anyone around here into shooting sports?
I shoot cowboy fast draw.
I also hunt and fish but I don't consider those sports.
And the emoji for COWBOY irritates the shit out of me
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Woah! I said that? This quit has got me acting totally crazy! I'm really sorry!
I think I'm using this website as a punching bag of sorts - I definitely can't rage at work and I live alone so there's nobody to rage with in person unless I call a friend or something....I'd rather have strangers pissed off at me than people in my actual life.
Anyways, quitting is going really well the last couple of days. Sunday was extremely painful, but today and yesterday were a walk in the park! How is yours going? I saw on your intro thread you bought some herbal snuff, I almost bought some but ended up going with jerky instead.
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Dude, I totally agree on the emoji thing being annoying.
I absolutely hate when people who don't know me and probably don't even know how to ride a horse say "that word."
I almost view it like the N-word. I can say it, you can say it....but someone from NYC should definitely not say it, ever. So annoying!
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Woah! I said that? This quit has got me acting totally crazy! I'm really sorry!
I think I'm using this website as a punching bag of sorts - I definitely can't rage at work and I live alone so there's nobody to rage with in person unless I call a friend or something....I'd rather have strangers pissed off at me than people in my actual life.
Anyways, quitting is going really well the last couple of days. Sunday was extremely painful, but today and yesterday were a walk in the park! How is yours going? I saw on your intro thread you bought some herbal snuff, I almost bought some but ended up going with jerky instead.
I'm doing good. Have a large assortment of fake that I am going to start weaning myself off of soon. I also chew gum and eat dark chocolate Hershey's kisses and werthers coffee caramel candy. I'm not a big candy person so I have been using fake that I can swallow. So at least I'm not sitting here spitting too. The Holt is made from alfalfa. It's kind of weird but it's good. And using smokey mountain mint pouches. I plan to start laying off the fake next week
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That's awesome! Do they taste good? I figured Copenhagen probably actually tastes like crap but I was/am too hooked to know it.
Getting over the oral fixation seems like it's going to be just as tricky as the tobacco part. I'm focusing on just the nicotine for now, but eventually I'd like to be able to not spend all day popping bubble gum and carrots like Pacman does with those dots. Chompa-chompa-chompa :D
Not spitting has been another thing I didn't expect to feel weird. I still spit constantly just out of habit, no reason needed.
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Forgot to add that Fast Draw is a lot of fun. Ever try Cowboy Mounted Shooting? It gets pretty crazy trying to hit those targets.
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That's awesome! Do they taste good? I figured Copenhagen probably actually tastes like crap but I was/am too hooked to know it.
Getting over the oral fixation seems like it's going to be just as tricky as the tobacco part. I'm focusing on just the nicotine for now, but eventually I'd like to be able to not spend all day popping bubble gum and carrots like Pacman does with those dots. Chompa-chompa-chompa :D
Not spitting has been another thing I didn't expect to feel weird. I still spit constantly just out of habit, no reason needed.
Everything I have is mint flavored. Even though I didn't dip mint. I dipped grizzly fine cut natural. I haven't really found any fake that tastes like snuff so I do the mint stuff. They say Hooch spitfire is pretty close but I haven't tried it yet
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That's awesome! Do they taste good? I figured Copenhagen probably actually tastes like crap but I was/am too hooked to know it.
Getting over the oral fixation seems like it's going to be just as tricky as the tobacco part. I'm focusing on just the nicotine for now, but eventually I'd like to be able to not spend all day popping bubble gum and carrots like Pacman does with those dots. Chompa-chompa-chompa :D
Not spitting has been another thing I didn't expect to feel weird. I still spit constantly just out of habit, no reason needed.
Everything I have is mint flavored. Even though I didn't dip mint. I dipped grizzly fine cut natural. I haven't really found any fake that tastes like snuff so I do the mint stuff. They say Hooch spitfire is pretty close but I haven't tried it yet
Oh and the Holt tastes like alfalfa. With peppermint. Lol
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Forgot to add that Fast Draw is a lot of fun. Ever try Cowboy Mounted Shooting? It gets pretty crazy trying to hit those targets.
I haven't tried the mounted shooting yet. I don't have the equipment. I have thought about it but am currently learning to heel for my husband and try to focus on one thing at a time. Lol
But yes I love shooting fast draw. It's a blast. (No pun intended.)
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I'm going to give you my 2 cents even if you don't want it. First off congrats on 4 days or whatever you are at now. You keep posting how easy it has been for you, but be cautious with that because the nicotine whore is sneaky. You need to learn to hate the f$%ing nicotine whore dude or you are going to fall flat on your face. You keep talking about being a cowboy and how everyone dips, like putting cat turds in your lip is romantic or something. I'm not a cowboy but I am an addict just like you and dipping 16-18 hours a day (read when I was awake) was as normal for me as eating and drinking. When I first came here, I glamorized dip as well and thought it was a love affair. I learned there is no love affair and all she wanted was my $$$$$$ and didn't care about anything else. As for easy, yesterday was easy. I am 322 in today and had a dip dream just the other night. The nicotine whore is patient and she will lurk and come at you when you least expect it. As for the hard core attitude on here, well that is because we, the collective KTC have seen every excuse, every BS story, etc. etc. that is known to mankind when it comes to dipping and BS will be called when it is needed. Stay the course, post roll, tighten the belt and get ready to ride the Bronc of your life Hawk, because this will be your toughest rodeo. I'll quit with you today. Lets do it again tomorrow.
Menace
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Whaaat? You're learning to heel too? I'm a lefty, so my friends roped me into it (pun totally intended). I'm really struggling with the whole hand-eye cordination thing, my aim is terrible so far. Working with a practice dummy helps, but once speed is added in, the aim goes out the window. How about for you?
I do saddle bronc as my main event, a little bit of bulldogging and bulls if I'm feeling crazy. But roping and sorting are going to be my "retirement" events, and that's not too far away.
I guess making the fake stuff mint flavored would be easier than trying to make fake tobacco flavoring. It would probably turn out like how artificial banana flavoring tastes - like crap!
Well, my horse Rocky loves alfalfa and he was definitely right about sugar cubes being awesome - so maybe alfalfa is tasty too?
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Whaaat? You're learning to heel too? I'm a lefty, so my friends roped me into it (pun totally intended). I'm really struggling with the whole hand-eye cordination thing, my aim is terrible so far. Working with a practice dummy helps, but once speed is added in, the aim goes out the window. How about for you?
I do saddle bronc as my main event, a little bit of bulldogging and bulls if I'm feeling crazy. But roping and sorting are going to be my "retirement" events, and that's not too far away.
I guess making the fake stuff mint flavored would be easier than trying to make fake tobacco flavoring. It would probably turn out like how artificial banana flavoring tastes - like crap!
Well, my horse Rocky loves alfalfa and he was definitely right about sugar cubes being awesome - so maybe alfalfa is tasty too?
My husband is a really good header so I want to be able to heel for him. I haven't got to practice in a few months due to finances and a broken trailer axle. My aim is ok as long as we aren't going super fast. But yeah it's definitely a work in progress. I have also done ranch rodeos a few times when I'm feeling froggy.
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Menace - Dip dreams almost a year later is crazy dude! I've had dip dreams every night since quitting and they are no fun at all, and the cold sweat is nasty. Yeah, I completely get what you're saying on romanticizing dipping - I've got five brothers and dipping was like a milestone for manhood or something between us and our friends...really stupid, but that's how my family, friends, and I act.
You bring up a really good point, I get cocky and I don't want to get it in my head that I can "have just one" a week, month, year later...I know I'll be back at a can a day. I really do need to learn to hate it, because right now I'm very happy to not be spending money on it and extremely proud of going 4 days without it....but part of me still wishes I could do it. I realize that I absolutely can't do it again, but the desire to dip is still there. I have every reason in the world to hate it, but I'm not there yet.
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Broken axels suck! That's really cool you're learning to heel for him, husband-wife teams do really well since you guys are on the same vibe. It really seems to help when you know the person well. Like, I heel better with my brothers since I don't need to really look at them to know what they're doing. But, newcomers in need of a heeler at the last minute don't fare as well with me.
Is there a way for you to practice from home? There's a really cool dummy target on wheels that can be pulled behind 4-wheelers that some of my friends have, the legs kick out and everything too. Those are excellent for practicing.
Forgot to add, ranch rodeos are a riot! Depending on the crowd they can be more fun than when there's big prizes on the line.
Speaking of prize money, it's going to be sweeeeet to win some and not go blow it on cigars afterwards.
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Broken axels suck! That's really cool you're learning to heel for him, husband-wife teams do really well since you guys are on the same vibe. It really seems to help when you know the person well. Like, I heel better with my brothers since I don't need to really look at them to know what they're doing. But, newcomers in need of a heeler at the last minute don't fare as well with me.
Is there a way for you to practice from home? There's a really cool dummy target on wheels that can be pulled behind 4-wheelers that some of my friends have, the legs kick out and everything too. Those are excellent for practicing.
Yeah we have been talking about trying to build a pen soon, but I don't know yet. Hubby got a new job so we should be able to get the trailer fixed and start hauling up and down the road again soon.
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Sweet! A pen at home is awesome to have, I got spoiled as a kid and had one right there. I've seen them posted for sale on my county's Facebook garage sale. Ever check there? Used gear is the best, already broken in and no worries if the paint gets scratched up.
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Sweet! A pen at home is awesome to have, I got spoiled as a kid and had one right there. I've seen them posted for sale on my county's Facebook garage sale. Ever check there? Used gear is the best, already broken in and no worries if the paint gets scratched up.
No we haven't really looked yet but that is a good idea
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There's also a rodeo gear page, but buying from people who are so far away that shipping is needed makes me nervous. I got a new helmet that way, someone with a head as big as mine only used it once and only wanted $75.
(Surprise, surprise, I've got a big head, eh?)
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There's also a rodeo gear page, but buying from people who are so far away that shipping is needed makes me nervous. I got a new helmet that way, someone with a head as big as mine only used it once and only wanted $75.
(Surprise, surprise, I've got a big head, eh?)
Yeah I would definitely make sure the seller used paypal or something similar. I have seen several cases where someone would send money and never receive their saddle or whatever it was. Normally saddles
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You're definitely not exaggerating there, saddles are a nightmare and are never how they're described. "Some wear and tear" = This leather's rotten!
I've only got one trophy saddle and it's never leaving the living room lol. I scored my show saddle at an auction and my everyday one was from Craigslist. How about yours?
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You're definitely not exaggerating there, saddles are a nightmare and are never how they're described. "Some wear and tear" = This leather's rotten!
I've only got one trophy saddle and it's never leaving the living room lol. I scored my show saddle at an auction and my everyday one was from Craigslist. How about yours?
I bought my saddle from a feed store, they had it on commission for a guy. It was custom made by a company called cowboy braidin' which I haven't been able to contact so I'm afraid the man may have passed away or something. I was wanting to get a braided rawhide headstall to match my saddle. I also have a few old saddles that were my grandpas and one A- fork from the 1800's. I need to have some work done on them so we don't use them right now.
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You're definitely not exaggerating there, saddles are a nightmare and are never how they're described. "Some wear and tear" = This leather's rotten!
I've only got one trophy saddle and it's never leaving the living room lol. I scored my show saddle at an auction and my everyday one was from Craigslist. How about yours?
Agghhhhh!!!! COWBOY BRAIDIN' Is the name of the company. Lol
Oh and I found my husband on Craigslist. Lmao
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Here I am bragging about scoring rodeo gear on Craigslist and you're bustin' out husbands from there.
I can't even pretend not to be jealous, because that's one seriously epic Craigslist score! lol
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Here I am bragging about scoring rodeo gear on Craigslist and you're bustin' out husbands from there.
I can't even pretend not to be jealous, because that's one seriously epic Craigslist score! lol
Haha!! Yeah everyone's like "weren't you scared to meet someone from there!?" And I tell them "no. He's the only one I talked to".... His post said " lonely bass fisherman looking for love" it sounded fairly safe. Lol!
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Here's some video of me doing some fast draw
http://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg (http://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg)
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No it's not. That guy is dead. :(
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No it's not. That guy is dead. :(
Well...if I did quick draw that would be me. Lol.
That guy's amazing!!!
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No it's not. That guy is dead. :(
Well...if I did quick draw that would be me. Lol.
That guy's amazing!!!
Lol! You actually had me going almost. Then I googled him.
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Here's some video of me doing some fast draw
http://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg (http://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg)
Diesel, That was crazy
Wife calls me quick draw but that's another story
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Here's some video of me doing some fast draw
http://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg (http://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg)
Diesel, That was crazy
Wife calls me quick draw but that's another story
Lmao.
I love how cocky the guy was. "Speed of light".
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Here's some video of me doing some fast draw
http://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg (http://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg)
Diesel, That was crazy
Wife calls me quick draw but that's another story
Lmao.
I love how cocky the guy was. "Speed of light".
Justified though
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Since he died about 6 months after you quit, that reverts you back to 6 months of quitting, right?
Or, it could mean you're a zombie?
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Cindy - I almost forgot to add about your Craiglist thing. That's like movie-script style adorable! Way to go!
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Since he died about 6 months after you quit, that reverts you back to 6 months of quitting, right?
Or, it could mean you're a zombie?
'zombie'
Sarcasm. Lol