KillTheCan.org Accountability Forum
Community => Introductions => Topic started by: rootboyslim on May 16, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
-
I thought I had it all beat up. For three years I quit. The support forum I used to peruse went away. Life was great. Three years. Then, I broke.
It was New Years Eve about five years ago. My car broke down, yet under warranty. The problem is, I was 450 miles from home. I put the family in a rental car, paid for by Dodge, and drove home. The next week I had to drive back up to return the rental and pick up my fixe dvehincle. It was night, I was tired, so I thought I would just get me some cherry skoal to keep me awake.
It has been a constant battle since then. I quit for five months, and start back. Quit for three weeks, then start back.
Well, I can't take it anymore. I hide it from my family, co workers, commnity board members. Each sore that comes up, I only think of how I am ripping off my kids. So here I am, 48, and probably used about two to three cans a week. not a lot by the standards of many here, but enough to kill me one day. I just hope it is not too late. I knwo I am serious, becasue I am on here. Currently, I have some cinnamon mint snuff in my mouth. It's not bad. I just hope it's not bad for you.
Wish me luck. The rootboy has officiallyl quit-----AGAIN!
P-S I knwo it is real this time. Every other time I quit, I did not solicit a support board, only on that three year stint.
-
Welcome.
Check your (Inbox 1) upper right corner of your screen.
Keep your word.
-
I thought I had it all beat up. For three years I quit. The support forum I used to peruse went away. Life was great. Three years. Then, I broke.
It was New Years Eve about five years ago. My car broke down, yet under warranty. The problem is, I was 450 miles from home. I put the family in a rental car, paid for by Dodge, and drove home. The next week I had to drive back up to return the rental and pick up my fixe dvehincle. It was night, I was tired, so I thought I would just get me some cherry skoal to keep me awake.
It has been a constant battle since then. I quit for five months, and start back. Quit for three weeks, then start back.
Well, I can't take it anymore. I hide it from my family, co workers, commnity board members. Each sore that comes up, I only think of how I am ripping off my kids. So here I am, 48, and probably used about two to three cans a week. not a lot by the standards of many here, but enough to kill me one day. I just hope it is not too late. I knwo I am serious, becasue I am on here. Currently, I have some cinnamon mint snuff in my mouth. It's not bad. I just hope it's not bad for you.
Wish me luck. The rootboy has officiallyl quit-----AGAIN!
P-S I knwo it is real this time. Every other time I quit, I did not solicit a support board, only on that three year stint.
Welcome rootboy,
As per custom on this forum we point things out that are potentially troubling.
I think you have the right attitude but having failed many times before you must make sure you know what you will do different this time. Often, simply being an active participant and roll calling every day are enough of a change.
Second, we don't wish people luck here because luck is not what you need to quit. Quitting is simply a choice. Today, I chose to not use tobacco. Tomorrow I will do the same. There is not and never was any luck involve, just a decision.
Again, I think you have the right attitude, make this official quit your last official quit.
-
I thought I had it all beat up. For three years I quit. The support forum I used to peruse went away. Life was great. Three years. Then, I broke.
It was New Years Eve about five years ago. My car broke down, yet under warranty. The problem is, I was 450 miles from home. I put the family in a rental car, paid for by Dodge, and drove home. The next week I had to drive back up to return the rental and pick up my fixe dvehincle. It was night, I was tired, so I thought I would just get me some cherry skoal to keep me awake.
It has been a constant battle since then. I quit for five months, and start back. Quit for three weeks, then start back.
Well, I can't take it anymore. I hide it from my family, co workers, commnity board members. Each sore that comes up, I only think of how I am ripping off my kids. So here I am, 48, and probably used about two to three cans a week. not a lot by the standards of many here, but enough to kill me one day. I just hope it is not too late. I knwo I am serious, becasue I am on here. Currently, I have some cinnamon mint snuff in my mouth. It's not bad. I just hope it's not bad for you.
Wish me luck. The rootboy has officiallyl quit-----AGAIN!
P-SÂ I knwo it is real this time. Every other time I quit, I did not solicit a support board, only on that three year stint.
Welcome rootboy,
As per custom on this forum we point things out that are potentially troubling.
I think you have the right attitude but having failed many times before you must make sure you know what you will do different this time. Often, simply being an active participant and roll calling every day are enough of a change.
Second, we don't wish people luck here because luck is not what you need to quit. Quitting is simply a choice. Today, I chose to not use tobacco. Tomorrow I will do the same. There is not and never was any luck involve, just a decision.
Again, I think you have the right attitude, make this official quit your last official quit.
First of all, what is this snuff you speak of? Non-Nic containing I'll go ahead and assume.
Now, welcome to our little world. I hope you like what we've done with the place!
Keep that crap out of your face today :)
-
I thought I had it all beat up. For three years I quit. The support forum I used to peruse went away. Life was great. Three years. Then, I broke.
It was New Years Eve about five years ago. My car broke down, yet under warranty. The problem is, I was 450 miles from home. I put the family in a rental car, paid for by Dodge, and drove home. The next week I had to drive back up to return the rental and pick up my fixe dvehincle. It was night, I was tired, so I thought I would just get me some cherry skoal to keep me awake.
It has been a constant battle since then. I quit for five months, and start back. Quit for three weeks, then start back.
Well, I can't take it anymore. I hide it from my family, co workers, commnity board members. Each sore that comes up, I only think of how I am ripping off my kids. So here I am, 48, and probably used about two to three cans a week. not a lot by the standards of many here, but enough to kill me one day. I just hope it is not too late. I knwo I am serious, becasue I am on here. Currently, I have some cinnamon mint snuff in my mouth. It's not bad. I just hope it's not bad for you.
Wish me luck. The rootboy has officiallyl quit-----AGAIN!
P-SÂ I knwo it is real this time. Every other time I quit, I did not solicit a support board, only on that three year stint.
Welcome rootboy,
As per custom on this forum we point things out that are potentially troubling.
I think you have the right attitude but having failed many times before you must make sure you know what you will do different this time. Often, simply being an active participant and roll calling every day are enough of a change.
Second, we don't wish people luck here because luck is not what you need to quit. Quitting is simply a choice. Today, I chose to not use tobacco. Tomorrow I will do the same. There is not and never was any luck involve, just a decision.
Again, I think you have the right attitude, make this official quit your last official quit.
First of all, what is this snuff you speak of? Non-Nic containing I'll go ahead and assume.
Now, welcome to our little world. I hope you like what we've done with the place!
Keep that crap out of your face today :)
Yep. Non-nicotine. Is that OK? or is it like eating food with splenda as opposed to sugar?
-
I thought I had it all beat up. For three years I quit. The support forum I used to peruse went away. Life was great. Three years. Then, I broke.
It was New Years Eve about five years ago. My car broke down, yet under warranty. The problem is, I was 450 miles from home. I put the family in a rental car, paid for by Dodge, and drove home. The next week I had to drive back up to return the rental and pick up my fixe dvehincle. It was night, I was tired, so I thought I would just get me some cherry skoal to keep me awake.
It has been a constant battle since then. I quit for five months, and start back. Quit for three weeks, then start back.
Well, I can't take it anymore. I hide it from my family, co workers, commnity board members. Each sore that comes up, I only think of how I am ripping off my kids. So here I am, 48, and probably used about two to three cans a week. not a lot by the standards of many here, but enough to kill me one day. I just hope it is not too late. I knwo I am serious, becasue I am on here. Currently, I have some cinnamon mint snuff in my mouth. It's not bad. I just hope it's not bad for you.
Wish me luck. The rootboy has officiallyl quit-----AGAIN!
P-SÂ I knwo it is real this time. Every other time I quit, I did not solicit a support board, only on that three year stint.
Welcome rootboy,
As per custom on this forum we point things out that are potentially troubling.
I think you have the right attitude but having failed many times before you must make sure you know what you will do different this time. Often, simply being an active participant and roll calling every day are enough of a change.
Second, we don't wish people luck here because luck is not what you need to quit. Quitting is simply a choice. Today, I chose to not use tobacco. Tomorrow I will do the same. There is not and never was any luck involve, just a decision.
Again, I think you have the right attitude, make this official quit your last official quit.
First of all, what is this snuff you speak of? Non-Nic containing I'll go ahead and assume.
Now, welcome to our little world. I hope you like what we've done with the place!
Keep that crap out of your face today :)
Yep. Non-nicotine. Is that OK? or is it like eating food with splenda as opposed to sugar?
As long as it doesn't contain tobacco or nicotine, it's fine. Posting roll here means that you aren't using nicotine in any form, i.e.; gum, patches, lozenges.
Good to be quit with you.
-
Welcome! Post Roll Call, then keep your word that you will not use nic in any form for that day. Hour by hour, minute by minute if that's what it takes. Proud to be Quit with you. Let me know if you need anything. Today I posted Roll Call and today I am Quit. Peace
-
I am concerned on day 23 that this latest quit has been too easy. All of the reasons to get me to "re-dip" are there. I am at the baseball fields all the time. I have a lot of alone time. I want to lose weight and dipping helped speed my meatbolism in the past, etc... yet the urge is not there.
I have tried to quit in the past and ten days in I feel so good, I go back to dipping. I have no desire, no cravings this time. What the heck is up? Will it hit me like a ton of bricks soon? What do I need to look out for?
Did the praying I did asking for a real quit this time prove to be the difference?
-
I am concerned on day 23 that this latest quit has been too easy. All of the reasons to get me to "re-dip" are there. I am at the baseball fields all the time. I have a lot of alone time. I want to lose weight and dipping helped speed my meatbolism in the past, etc... yet the urge is not there.
I have tried to quit in the past and ten days in I feel so good, I go back to dipping. I have no desire, no cravings this time. What the heck is up? Will it hit me like a ton of bricks soon? What do I need to look out for?
Did the praying I did asking for a real quit this time prove to be the difference?
The decision to stay quit is entirely up to you so maybe you had your mind right going into this. I would just focus on the here and now and not try to make sense out of why it seems easier to you. Quit today...rinse and repeat. Let those quit days stack up.
All of those reasons to cave are just addict talk. Tune that shit out.
I had some pretty tough craves at certain times after rolling on cruise control for a few weeks....and they did hit me like a ton of bricks.
Stay quit brother and you keep posting stuff like this. Therapy is good for all.
EDIT - and start posting roll every day fucker. You're just hanging by a damn thread! You need to build some accountability!
-
I am concerned on day 23 that this latest quit has been too easy. All of the reasons to get me to "re-dip" are there. I am at the baseball fields all the time. I have a lot of alone time. I want to lose weight and dipping helped speed my meatbolism in the past, etc... yet the urge is not there.
I have tried to quit in the past and ten days in I feel so good, I go back to dipping. I have no desire, no cravings this time. What the heck is up? Will it hit me like a ton of bricks soon? What do I need to look out for?
Did the praying I did asking for a real quit this time prove to be the difference?
If your quit is easy, be thankful, but remain vigilant no matter what. ALWAYS post roll every day, first thing and stay active. There were more than a few people in my group who thought it was easy early on, only to have a day 40 or 60 post along the lines of "WTF?! Having major craves and rage out of nowhere. This is tougher than week 1!"
It's different for everybody, but it will hit you and you better be prepared (not cocky) when it comes.
It almost worries me more to hear someone say quitting is easy than to hear someone tell me how hard it's been. The guy that thinks it's easy is sometimes the same guy that ends up thinking he can handle just one, or just one weekend, or just one vacation. Those are just the lies of the addicted mind. If quitting every day is so easy, why wouldn't you just keep doing it, right?
I'm not saying that's you, but I've seen guys fail that exact same way (it's the way I usually failed before I came to this site...).
Stay vigilant and stick to your plan to post roll daily. Enjoy the easy days...and grind out the tough ones when they come. You never know when they'll hit you, but as long as you're ready, you'll make it through.
-
I am concerned on day 23 that this latest quit has been too easy. All of the reasons to get me to "re-dip" are there. I am at the baseball fields all the time. I have a lot of alone time. I want to lose weight and dipping helped speed my meatbolism in the past, etc... yet the urge is not there.
I have tried to quit in the past and ten days in I feel so good, I go back to dipping. I have no desire, no cravings this time. What the heck is up? Will it hit me like a ton of bricks soon? What do I need to look out for?
Did the praying I did asking for a real quit this time prove to be the difference?
Could be the praying, or it could be that you "flipped the switch", or it could be none of the above. I hope it is one of the first two, but I doubt it. Not to rain on your parade, but just to keep it real, I thought I'd share a bit out my quit. I didn't find and join KTC until 50+ days into my quit. I had enough determination that I thought I could make it on my own. I was wrong. I hit a wall at that point and started searching the internet for answers. Had I not found this place, I would have failed.
With all that said, my advice to you is to keep your guard way up. Eventually something will give you grief. Make sure you have plenty of numbers to call/text and a plan in place when that happens.
-
I hope this doesn't discourage anyone, but I have heard of several people who described the '2nd' 100 days as tougher than the '1st' 100 days. This wasn't the case for me, but for some people the quit can be difficult after the 'new-ness' or the excitement wears off. That is where posting roll is important....it is a constant reminder of what we are fighting for, what we have to lose and most importantly what we have to gain.
I'm a stats guy by nature. I enjoy breaking down the probabilities of things and the probability or likelihood of you remaining quit is not so much determined by how many days you have 'under your belt'...but rather by whether or not you post roll DAILY. The odds of you caving if you post roll EVERYDAY are almost nil.
The guys that post roll daily historically don't cave.
-
I am concerned on day 23 that this latest quit has been too easy. All of the reasons to get me to "re-dip" are there. I am at the baseball fields all the time. I have a lot of alone time. I want to lose weight and dipping helped speed my meatbolism in the past, etc... yet the urge is not there.
I have tried to quit in the past and ten days in I feel so good, I go back to dipping. I have no desire, no cravings this time. What the heck is up? Will it hit me like a ton of bricks soon? What do I need to look out for?
Did the praying I did asking for a real quit this time prove to be the difference?
I am very glad for you that your quit is going so easy, but my concern is do you have the backbone to not dip "this time". You seem to have a history of taking a dip just cause you are feeling good about being quit. You have already proven to yourself that you can not just take a dip and walk away. You quit then start dipping again. Grow a fucking pair of balls and quit already.
-
The rodeo is nowhere close to over. That bull comming outa shoot 5 will flatten your ass if you aren't looking and don't stay viligant. Bitch is lurking and waiting for you to become complacent.
-
Did the praying help? Who knows. Once you push all the praying, luck, universe being aligned, butterfly flapping its wings in China off the table and look down, all you're left with is you. I'm not challenging your faith but I think you need to grab a hold of YOUR quit. Its not a piece of laundry out on the line you enjoy watching blow in the wind from the safety of your kitchen table. You got to protect it and keep yourself on target. Its not a question of when will you crave, its a question of what will your approach be this time when you crave. Will you embrace the suck or cave?
Glad to quit with you.
-
The guys that post roll daily historically don't cave.
This right here sums it up perfectly... all you need to know.
-
Some posters are a bit too negative. Grow a pair etc.... WTF? Why do you think I am asking? There has been some good sound advice and for that, thank you very much.
If I don't post roll everyday, it is becasue I am on the road with no access. I try to get on every day for a few minutes at least. Posting roll does help. But it is a pain in the rear. I have to go to an original email to find it everyday. Is there an easier way?
-
Posting roll does help. But it is a pain in the rear. I have to go to an original email to find it everyday. Is there an easier way?
Posting roll is what makes this way of quitting work. You want an easier way, this place ain't for you. Post roll like everyone else or move along. Excuses are like assholes, etc, etc.....................
-
Some posters are a bit too negative. Grow a pair etc.... WTF? Why do you think I am asking? There has been some good sound advice and for that, thank you very much.
If I don't post roll everyday, it is becasue I am on the road with no access. I try to get on every day for a few minutes at least. Posting roll does help. But it is a pain in the rear. I have to go to an original email to find it everyday. Is there an easier way?
I understand being busy, I really do. I've got a full-time job, a wife, 3 small kids, and I'm also a volly firefighter, so sometimes it's tough to post roll. But, especially during the early days of my quit, I made a point to spend the couple of minutes to post EVERY DAY. Even now, at 268 days, I make the promise every morning so that nicotine is not an option for the rest of the day. If I can't get to a computer for some reason, I'll send a text to one or two of the folks in my HOF group. They will add that promise to the roll for me. I sometimes return the favor for them. That's how it works, and that's part of what the numbers are for. Any way you do it, the outcome is the same: you are obligated for the next 24 hours. So, don't TRY. Make it happen. Hope this helps.
As far as making it easy: I have my HOF group saved as a "Favorite" on every computer I use. I even have it saved as a shortcut on my desktop on one computer. That way, one double-click throws me right into my roll call screen. Then just cut/paste/type and it's done. Takes less than 2 minutes total.
-
Some posters are a bit too negative. Grow a pair etc.... WTF? Why do you think I am asking? There has been some good sound advice and for that, thank you very much.
If I don't post roll everyday, it is becasue I am on the road with no access. I try to get on every day for a few minutes at least. Posting roll does help. But it is a pain in the rear. I have to go to an original email to find it everyday. Is there an easier way?
You must be the only busy person on this entire site. What is it like to be busy? How do you do it? Please enlighten me on this thing called "busy".
Like teaka said, and iuchewie reiterated, those who post roll daily are far less likely to cave. Stop making excuses for why you can't post roll. You are playing with fire if you continue the path you are on. Get a couple phone numbers and have somebody post for you if you are that busy. PM me and I'd be glad to exchange digits and post for you.
-
Some posters are a bit too negative. Grow a pair etc.... WTF? Why do you think I am asking? There has been some good sound advice and for that, thank you very much.
If I don't post roll everyday, it is becasue I am on the road with no access. I try to get on every day for a few minutes at least. Posting roll does help. But it is a pain in the rear. I have to go to an original email to find it everyday. Is there an easier way?
Why post everyday?
I think the clinical reason it works is found in this:
Neuro-linguistic Programming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming)
NLP is "a model of interpersonal communication chiefly concerned with the relationship between successful patterns of behavior and the subjective experiences (esp. patterns of thought) underlying them".
i would think you'd be totally psyched to get up each morning and have a place to put your name down for yourself and as an example to others that you're conquering the NB one day at a time.
-
Some posters are a bit too negative. Grow a pair etc.... WTF? Why do you think I am asking? There has been some good sound advice and for that, thank you very much.
If I don't post roll everyday, it is becasue I am on the road with no access. I try to get on every day for a few minutes at least. Posting roll does help. But it is a pain in the rear. I have to go to an original email to find it everyday. Is there an easier way?
Why post everyday?
I think the clinical reason it works is found in this:
Neuro-linguistic Programming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming)
NLP is "a model of interpersonal communication chiefly concerned with the relationship between successful patterns of behavior and the subjective experiences (esp. patterns of thought) underlying them".
i would think you'd be totally psyched to get up each morning and have a place to put your name down for yourself and as an example to others that you're conquering the NB one day at a time.
POSTING ROLL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN YOUR QUIT. Teaka nice saying. Man there are tons of ways to get your roll posted. Call or text a quit brother or sister. Email one dam make smokes signals. Not posting roll gives you an out. After I post I feel relieved knowing I made my promise to me and my quit brothers and sisters. Pain in the ass to post roll huh REALLY how serious are you. I post roll like my life depends on it. This is our lives we are fighting for isnt it???
Luke
-
I hope this doesn't discourage anyone, but I have heard of several people who described the '2nd' 100 days as tougher than the '1st' 100 days. This wasn't the case for me, but for some people the quit can be difficult after the 'new-ness' or the excitement wears off. That is where posting roll is important....it is a constant reminder of what we are fighting for, what we have to lose and most importantly what we have to gain.
I'm a stats guy by nature. I enjoy breaking down the probabilities of things and the probability or likelihood of you remaining quit is not so much determined by how many days you have 'under your belt'...but rather by whether or not you post roll DAILY. The odds of you caving if you post roll EVERYDAY are almost nil.
The guys that post roll daily historically don't cave.
I admit that the struggles since day 100 have been greater for me than before (minus the first 2 weeks) from a mental side. The quit now is easy, but going back to being a using addict is also easy--constant battle.
I shared in my group, I think it may have been on St Patty's Day, that I would've used on day had it not been for posting roll. I had just done so about a half hour before and was in the process of getting my shoes on for a drive up to a local gas station to have a quick lipper for old times sake when the reality of lying to my KTC family kept me quit that day. And I realized at that point by my own experience that I'll never know which moment I'll need that pledge to the KTC family to keep me quit for another day.
Enjoy it when it is easy and be ready for when it is a battle.
-
Well, he ain't posting roll so I guess our way is too hard for him. Moving on to the next quitter. Fuck the weak 'Finger'
-
Well, he ain't posting roll so I guess our way is too hard for him. Moving on to the next quitter. Fuck the weak 'Finger'
Two words : Triple Fish
To those who hang around here and continue to do it 'their' way : 'FU'
-
POSTING IS OUR COMMITMENT FOR THE DAY!! Very important! SO POST UP AND GET ON WITH YOUR QUIT!!! Nicotine addiction goes with the SUCK!! 'bang head' Nico
-
gimme a fucking break. Posted two days in a row, saying' Day 23 both times. Then fucking disappears again. What a douche.
-
gimme a fucking break. Posted two days in a row, saying' Day 23 both times. Then fucking disappears again. What a douche.
I saw that too.
Looks like we got a cowboy on our hands fellas. We've led this horse to water, and he sure as hell ain't drinkin'.
Some people don't want to be saved. IMHO, use your time and energy on someone else.
CC
-
gimme a fucking break. Posted two days in a row, saying' Day 23 both times. Then fucking disappears again. What a douche.
I saw that too.
Looks like we got a cowboy on our hands fellas. We've led this horse to water, and he sure as hell ain't drinkin'.
Some people don't want to be saved. IMHO, use your time and energy on someone else.
CC
You're right. You need to post every day, if not for any other reason than to know your quit day. I am still quit and will keep it up.
-
Rootboy, look at your spreadsheet in August. You are a joke. The question is not "if" you will cave, it's "when". I hope you prove me wrong, but at the rate you are posting roll, it is highly unlikely. Why don't you just cut your losses now OR decide to get serious and give your quit brothers and sisters the respect they deserve and post roll every morning...
-
Rootboy, look at your spreadsheet in August. You are a joke. The question is not "if" you will cave, it's "when". I hope you prove me wrong, but at the rate you are posting roll, it is highly unlikely. Why don't you just cut your losses now OR decide to get serious and give your quit brothers and sisters the respect they deserve and post roll every morning...
I guess you missed my last answer. New folks on here aren't as familiar as you long timers are. Less hostility and more support is an option. I confessed perhasp posting daily is the way and I would make that a priority. Nortmally I don't open my computer on weekends. I don't like to be held slave to work. So I will just have to change that. I show no disrespect to the folks on this board. I'm not sure where that comes from.
-
Rootboy, look at your spreadsheet in August. You are a joke. The question is not "if" you will cave, it's "when". I hope you prove me wrong, but at the rate you are posting roll, it is highly unlikely. Why don't you just cut your losses now OR decide to get serious and give your quit brothers and sisters the respect they deserve and post roll every morning...
I guess you missed my last answer. New folks on here aren't as familiar as you long timers are. Less hostility and more support is an option. I confessed perhasp posting daily is the way and I would make that a priority. Nortmally I don't open my computer on weekends. I don't like to be held slave to work. So I will just have to change that. I show no disrespect to the folks on this board. I'm not sure where that comes from.
I apologize if my seriousness and commitment to quit comes off as hostility. If you are serious about not getting on a computer on weekends, perhaps you could text a group member and have them post roll for you.
I think you fail to understand and appreciate the beauty of this site. It works because people receive support AND give out support. Somebody a day ahead of you could help you today, and tomorrow you might help someone a day behind you. I think that is the ideal concept here at KTC. At the minimum, you should post roll everyday and show your quit brothers and sisters you are serious and that you are around to hold them accountable.
-
Nortmally I don't open my computer on weekends. I don't like to be held slave to work.
What good is having a job if you have jaw cancer and have to have your head amputated. It takes less than 5min. to post roll. It will help you and us. JUST DO IT! (not just a Nike slogan)
-
Rootboy, look at your spreadsheet in August. You are a joke. The question is not "if" you will cave, it's "when". I hope you prove me wrong, but at the rate you are posting roll, it is highly unlikely. Why don't you just cut your losses now OR decide to get serious and give your quit brothers and sisters the respect they deserve and post roll every morning...
I guess you missed my last answer. New folks on here aren't as familiar as you long timers are. Less hostility and more support is an option. I confessed perhasp posting daily is the way and I would make that a priority. Nortmally I don't open my computer on weekends. I don't like to be held slave to work. So I will just have to change that. I show no disrespect to the folks on this board. I'm not sure where that comes from.
Parry joined 3 days AFTER you, so you can't really call him a long-timer. He's just a bad-ass quittin motherfucker, that's all.
I'll take you at your word - you say you'll post more regularly now, I assume that's what you'll do. But the point remains (and maybe this isn't the right point, but it's what I believe), your quit is nearly as important to me as my quit.
Tomorrow I'm at day 50 in a quit group of 50+ people. I gain strength from each and every one of those folks in our group. Now imagine EVERY OTHER PERSON in this quit group posted roll like you did. I wouldn't gain any strength from that. I wouldn't post roll every day. If it was 2pm on a saturday and I hadn't posted roll, I wouldn't care all that much. And by now, I'd probably have a big fat juicy digger of cope hangin' outa my bottom lip.
But that's not how it is. We're in this together. We're not just 50 random people quitting at, coincidentally, the same time. We're brothers and sister in the quit. Whether you embrace that or not, once you came to this site and posted your day one, that's what you've bargained for. It's not just your quit. It's our quit. That's what this site represents. Solidarity.
I'll take you at your word and I'll see you at roll. I agree, sometimes the "fuck you" attitude can get tired. But it works for many. Find the voice that matters to you. I hope you don't disappoint because we need more ballsac in August. If you need a number, PM me. If you need inspiration, read some HOFs. If you need to understand a little more what this site is about.... then post this question in chat and see what your response will be.
-
When I decided I was going to quit, I looked for a support site. The last time I quit I went to a site similar to this. It was a freakin' great support group. Then I got notice the site was retiring. Then I caved after more than 1000 days. No clue why. Pretty good suspicions though.
So I ran a google search and ended up here. Let me tell you something, this place is a freakin' boot camp for us newbies. And that is what I am, a newbie once again. Drop and give me 100 dude. People are rude and relentless. They treat your questions as stupid. They ridicule what you write. Their way is the only way.
Then a light goes off. Maybe drill seargent has a point. Maybe he knows what he says.
Post roll everyday. If boot camp teaches you anything, it is that a daily reminder of why you are doing this comes from a little bit of work.
Thank you drill seargant.
-
And that is what I am, a newbie once again.
not to be a dick and question you, but does this mean that you caved?
or are you just speaking metaphorically?
-
And that is what I am, a newbie once again.
not to be a dick and question you, but does this mean that you caved?
or are you just speaking metaphorically?
Sorry, to clarify, I quit for three years in the mid 2000s, and caved about three years ago. I am on day 30 and though I had quit for a while all those years ago, I am a 30 day newbie. No caving since I stopped in May.
-
You seem like an atention whore and I hate responding, but it kills me not to. You say you are going to post roll, then you don't because you are "too busy". Just get with the program, dude, and you won't have people getting on to you. Simple as that.
-
You seem like an atention whore and I hate responding, but it kills me not to. You say you are going to post roll, then you don't because you are "too busy". Just get with the program, dude, and you won't have people getting on to you. Simple as that.
Don't respond then. I am posting role and planning to do so, which is why I posted this. I am simply trying to help the new folks coming on board understand. I didn't quite understand from the start. There are no directions, sign up and go. Just trying to help and keep conversations going. It helps keep the quit on.
-
You seem like an atention whore and I hate responding, but it kills me not to. You say you are going to post roll, then you don't because you are "too busy". Just get with the program, dude, and you won't have people getting on to you. Simple as that.
Don't respond then. I am posting role and planning to do so, which is why I posted this. I am simply trying to help the new folks coming on board understand. I didn't quite understand from the start. There are no directions, sign up and go. Just trying to help and keep conversations going. It helps keep the quit on.
I don't think we have an attention whore here. I think a light went on.
See you at roll again tomorrow Root.
-
When I decided I was going to quit, I looked for a support site. The last time I quit I went to a site similar to this. It was a freakin' great support group. Then I got notice the site was retiring. Then I caved after more than 1000 days. No clue why. Pretty good suspicions though.
So I ran a google search and ended up here. Let me tell you something, this place is a freakin' boot camp for us newbies. And that is what I am, a newbie once again. Drop and give me 100 dude. People are rude and relentless. They treat your questions as stupid. They ridicule what you write. Their way is the only way.
Then a light goes off. Maybe drill seargent has a point. Maybe he knows what he says.
Post roll everyday. If boot camp teaches you anything, it is that a daily reminder of why you are doing this comes from a little bit of work.
Thank you drill seargant.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... 3MsI#gid=0 (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av6AiGhdbs3tdGllcUVaaUlhaG92RTMyNUtqSnhMQXc&hl=en_US&authkey=COHT3MsI#gid=0)
I hope you truly plan on posting roll EVERY DAY. You need to build that accountability. It will save your quit one day.
-
I saw you post day 30. Nice. 1 day at a time.
-
Think I'm seeing something here rootboy...like I said privately, if you need anything let me know
-
Think I'm seeing something here rootboy...like I said privately, if you need anything let me know
Yep. You are. Day 31 and posted before leaving for the day.
-
Glad to be quit with you root. Keep up the good work.
-
Glad to be quit with you root.
-
I'll quit with you Root!
-
happy to see you more active here, root. proud to be quit with you!
pm me if you want to exchange numbers...
-
So, after all this shit index.php?showtopic=4813st=0 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4813&st=0) are you now saying you understand the method to our madness, or are you just playing nice to get along? You seemed pretty hell bent on trying to destroy our way of doing things. Have you come around that easy? Please enlighten me.
-
So, after all this shit index.php?showtopic=4813st=0 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4813&st=0) are you now saying you understand the method to our madness, or are you just playing nice to get along? You seemed pretty hell bent on trying to destroy our way of doing things. Have you come around that easy? Please enlighten me.
I am saying I understand the method to the madness.
The last site I used to quit, as I recall, had the same roll call method. The site was put to sleep. I wonder if this is the resurrected site. I didn't remember roll call as mandatory then.
-
Many of you have read my story how I quit for years, and that I have referred to another site that helped me quit. They had roll call as well. It went down in May of '06. I went to some old emails and found some of my old quit brothers from my class. I apologized for falling off the wagon.
The site was quitsmokeless.org. Are any of you gradautes of that program? It was very similar to this site.
-
So, after all this shit index.php?showtopic=4813st=0 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4813&st=0) are you now saying you understand the method to our madness, or are you just playing nice to get along? You seemed pretty hell bent on trying to destroy our way of doing things. Have you come around that easy? Please enlighten me.
I am saying I understand the method to the madness.
The last site I used to quit, as I recall, had the same roll call method. The site was put to sleep. I wonder if this is the resurrected site. I didn't remember roll call as mandatory then.
Nothing is mandatory but death. We just ask you to respect our way of doing things.
-
poof
-
Quitsmokeless.org is still alive and kicking. In fact, we have a link to it on one of our Resource pages.
It is a different mentality, and there are a number of solid bad ass quitters that have been and still are active on both of these sites.
Some people here refer to the other site as 'The other site' or the 'Lite' site.
This is Quit Smokeless Extreme. It's in our fucking name. If you don't like the Extreme part, you are more than welcome to go quit with the Lite site. They have their successes.
But don't come in our house and try to change what works for thousands of us.
-
Quitsmokeless.org is still alive and kicking. In fact, we have a link to it on one of our Resource pages.
It is a different mentality, and there are a number of solid bad ass quitters that have been and still are active on both of these sites.
Some people here refer to the other site as 'The other site' or the 'Lite' site.
This is Quit Smokeless Extreme. It's in our fucking name. If you don't like the Extreme part, you are more than welcome to go quit with the Lite site. They have their successes.
But don't come in our house and try to change what works for thousands of us.
-
If it must be done...Do it here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=210)
This thread is locked.
It will be deleted tomorrow.
Rootboyslim....LOOT knows May 06 well, very well. Who were you on Lite? Respond via PM
-
ANyone else get some weight gain following the intial quit? I think I may have gained about 15 lbs since May 16. Yes, exercise more, eat less.... I get the notion. It just ain't workin' right now.
But I'm still quit MFers!!!
-
Dude Im so with ya...I think I am starting to sound like a woman to my wife..."hey honey does this make me look fat? I feel bloated" I need to get my ass in gear
-
Do not worry about weight gain at this point. Quit weight happens. The most important thing at this point is for you to focus all energy on your quit. You can worry about taking off the lbs in your 200's or so.
-
Don't worry about it dude! I gained between 10 and 15 pounds during the first 100 days. I will get it back off again, and so will you. Your quit is more important than anything else right now. Stay Strong. Stay quit.
-
ANyone else get some weight gain following the intial quit? I think I may have gained about 15 lbs since May 16. Yes, exercise more, eat less.... I get the notion. It just ain't workin' right now.
But I'm still quit MFers!!!
Here is where I am expert...during my quit I ate everything that didn't move...and by God if I could run it down I ate that, too. Do Not worry about it...shoot 15 pounds?!?...I gained 74. I just decided my quit was more important, and so I stayed quit.
About 1 1/2 months ago I decided it was time to worry about the weight...I've lost 22 of those pounds and I just attack my weight loss the same way I attacked my quit. Don't worry about the weight now, worry about the quit...I'll help keep you accountable in the weight loss later.
-
Keep a glass, cup or bottle of water with you at all times. I drink 3-4 32oz cups a day. It addresses two issues:
1) oral fixation
2) water makes you feel full.
-
As you probably know, you're replacing the fix you got with nicotine with food. Exercise is extremely important in a quit imo. It helps address the extra anxiety/stress you are experiencing, keeps weight gain at bay, and just makes you feel better overall. I am doing a strength gaining program (5x5) during mine, so at least some of those extra cals are going toward muscle. I've only gone up from 205 to about 215 and now back down to 211 or so and I'm significantly stronger than when I started (about 75 days ago).
Anyway, it's better to eat something than to cave but try to keep it in check. Also, keep better alternatives around (gum, seeds, toothpicks) versus sweets and other high carb/fat shit. If you want info on 5x5 or nutrition/exercise/etc let me know.
-
Keep a glass, cup or bottle of water with you at all times. I drink 3-4 32oz cups a day. It addresses two issues:
1) oral fixation
2) water makes you feel full.
Very good advise. I drink water like crazy now. Water and excercise are the key for me. Exercise is the best way to fight anxiety. If I go a few days without running, I turn into a huge asshole. If I run a few miles, I'm the most well adjusted guy on the planet. Not sure why that is, but I just feel so much better about myself after a nice long run.
If you can, I highly suggest running. I went from barely being able to run 10 minutes slowly, to running 3-4 miles daily.
-
Check out Scooby.... (http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/)
...Huge dork, Great info! Sound nutrition advise, great workouts (Beginning - Advanced), and will try and sell you NOTHING. Just loves fitness and body building so much that he gets excited about sharing it with others.
He is very Quirky, you've been warned :) But an amazing fella who's got mad fitness skills and advice.
-
Thanks to all. My problem is exercise is limited. I was a catcher for nearly 30 years and have had four surgeries on my left knee. The next one will be to replace it. I am confined to swimming, which I was doing a mile each time four days a week. I, too, was a more well adjusted man on those days. Swimming is the easiest exercise to makes excuses to skip. I find them all the time. I used to say to myself, "if you swim today, you will lower your BP and then you can dip." Always justifying the poison.
Now I need to adjust and say "if you swim today, and burn 600 calories, you can have that 300 calorie candy bar."
It's good to be quit.
-
Thanks to all. My problem is exercise is limited. I was a catcher for nearly 30 years and have had four surgeries on my left knee. The next one will be to replace it. I am confined to swimming, which I was doing a mile each time four days a week. I, too, was a more well adjusted man on those days. Swimming is the easiest exercise to makes excuses to skip. I find them all the time. I used to say to myself, "if you swim today, you will lower your BP and then you can dip." Always justifying the poison.
Now I need to adjust and say "if you swim today, and burn 600 calories, you can have that 300 calorie candy bar."
It's good to be quit.
No excuse not to do something. I am 43 and just knocked out 120 situps, 120 pushups and 36 curls with my 20lb dumb bells. Doing ANYTHING is better than doing nothing. Tonight I will go for a walk while my girls ride their bikes. Can't run right now cause I funked up my knee.
Anyway, my point is just do SOMETHING. Hell go walk circles in your yard if you have to.
-
My fat clothes are now tight. OMG!! POed!
-
My fat clothes are now tight. OMG!! POed!
Ha! This is what happened to me. I do believe people are correct when they say not to worry about diet for at least 100 days, but I just can't go out and get new fat suits. Especially since I lost 60 lbs 2 years ago and have some pride at stake to make sure it stays off.
So I started low carb last Thursday. Between that and my quit it made for a damn depressing weekend, but I'm turning the corner on that too. I remember how well Atkins worked for me before. Just get through the 1st 3-4 weeks of suck and my brain chemistry changes. Once that happens I'm no longer hungry and food is less important.
Just gotta keep on keepin on.
-
My fat clothes are now tight. OMG!! POed!
Hang in there brother. I turned my world upside when I stopped using. I did the eat like king, prince, pauper deal where I eat my huge meal in the morning and smaller meals as the day goes on. I get up every morning starving and will rip into anything I want. Why did I do this? To change my using patterns around my dips and food. I used to dip later in the day and the craves were pretty much around food. I turned it upside down to minimize it. Makes my family nuts but I also have lost 35 lbs since Feb. 1.
PS. I should add that is combined with daily exercise of cardio and strength training. Not just diet alone.
The other approach I considered was Riding the Snake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQYVRr0EYBA)
-
My fat clothes are now tight. OMG!! POed!
Hang in there brother. I turned my world upside when I stopped using. I did the eat like king, prince, pauper deal where I eat my huge meal in the morning and smaller meals as the day goes on. I get every morning starving and will rip into anything I want. Why did I do this? To change my using patterns around my dips and food. I used to dip later in the day and the craves were pretty much around food. I turned it upside down to minimize it. Makes my family nuts but I also have lost 35 lbs since Feb. 1.
The other approach I considered was Riding the Snake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQYVRr0EYBA)
I love to ride the snake. :wub:
-
My fat clothes are now tight. OMG!! POed!
Ha! This is what happened to me. I do believe people are correct when they say not to worry about diet for at least 100 days, but I just can't go out and get new fat suits. Especially since I lost 60 lbs 2 years ago and have some pride at stake to make sure it stays off.
So I started low carb last Thursday. Between that and my quit it made for a damn depressing weekend, but I'm turning the corner on that too. I remember how well Atkins worked for me before. Just get through the 1st 3-4 weeks of suck and my brain chemistry changes. Once that happens I'm no longer hungry and food is less important.
Just gotta keep on keepin on.
Yep. Atkins works great. I try to eat that way, but with less fatty meats. Still a lardo at this point.
-
Yes, this quit dipping is a double whammy. All I want to do is eat. Haven't had a dip since last Monday 6/13/11. Been dipping since 1976 for 35 freaking years been packing that lip. Been eating so many sunflower seeds I'm afraid I'll grow feathers and turn into a bird. Anyway I feel yalls pain about the weight gain. It's happening to me. The carb thing has worked in the past before and is a great way to loose weight fast but I don't want to do it for life. Anyway this is a great support site. The 1st 3 days were megga hell, but it's better. Trying to hang.
-
Nine days since you saw the light. You haven't missed roll once.
Thank you. Proud to be quit with you.
-
Yes, this quit dipping is a double whammy. All I want to do is eat. Haven't had a dip since last Monday 6/13/11. Been dipping since 1976 for 35 freaking years been packing that lip. Been eating so many sunflower seeds I'm afraid I'll grow feathers and turn into a bird. Anyway I feel yalls pain about the weight gain. It's happening to me. The carb thing has worked in the past before and is a great way to loose weight fast but I don't want to do it for life. Anyway this is a great support site. The 1st 3 days were megga hell, but it's better. Trying to hang.
If you really think about the low carb thing, it is very healthy. You eat meat and veggies, just skip the bread, potatos and sugar. You don't need any of it. If it is naturla, eat it. If it is refined, skip it. No one needs white flour.
the misnomer with Atkins and low carb diets is you don't eat bacon every day. I suppose you could, but you still need to cut back on the fatty meats.
And for me, my stomach and acid reflux only kicks up when I eat simple carbs, bread, cake, cookies.
The quit pushed me back to that crap. now I am sugar free and dip free. Woo Hoo!
-
Nine days since you saw the light. You haven't missed roll once.
Thank you. Proud to be quit with you.
Back at ya. It is getting tougher. As I gain weight, sit through tons of baseball games, cut the grass, it all comes back to me. then I remember I made a promise this morning.
-
Yes, this quit dipping is a double whammy. All I want to do is eat. Haven't had a dip since last Monday 6/13/11. Been dipping since 1976 for 35 freaking years been packing that lip. Been eating so many sunflower seeds I'm afraid I'll grow feathers and turn into a bird. Anyway I feel yalls pain about the weight gain. It's happening to me. The carb thing has worked in the past before and is a great way to loose weight fast but I don't want to do it for life. Anyway this is a great support site. The 1st 3 days were megga hell, but it's better. Trying to hang.
Welcome, Oliver. Any particular reason you aren't posting roll?
-
Nine days since you saw the light. You haven't missed roll once.
Thank you. Proud to be quit with you.
Back at ya. It is getting tougher. As I gain weight, sit through tons of baseball games, cut the grass, it all comes back to me. then I remember I made a promise this morning.
The power of this site. Stay quit my friend. PM me if you need a number.
-
Nine days since you saw the light. You haven't missed roll once.
Thank you. Proud to be quit with you.
Back at ya. It is getting tougher. As I gain weight, sit through tons of baseball games, cut the grass, it all comes back to me. then I remember I made a promise this morning.
The power of this site. Stay quit my friend. PM me if you need a number.
Nice work rootboyslim!!! Don't worry about the weight gain! You can deal with that later. Do what it takes to get that crap out of you life first!
-
So last night I had a dream going into day 92 that I caved and dipped. My dilemma was do I start at day 1 again or lie to these people and just put day 92?
WTF is with that?
-
Last week I had a dream that I wanted to put in a fake chew, but actually threw in a real dip. I realized right away, and tried to spit it out but my friend was sitting accross the table just shaking his head in disappointment.
When I woke up the next morning I actually thought, "Did I have a chew last night", and was so relieved when I realized that it was just a dream.
-
Been there, and yeah.... it sucks.
On one hand, I hate those damn dreams.
On the other hand, I love them... because they illustrate how bad an actual cave would feel. They keep the fight in focus.
-
i've only had one cave dream, and it SUCKED waking up. i was in a near panic for the first 5 minutes, and felt off/guilty for the rest of the day. you know the feeling when you wake up from a blackout with an eerie feeling that you did something you were going to really regret... that's how i felt.
-
I had many failed quits before mainly because I was concentrating on too much at one time. Let's facfe it, dip helped me maintain and even lose weight. It kept me from eating, suppressed appetite and sped up my metabolism, along with my blood pressure.
So I gained weight when I decided I had to stop or die. Folks on here offered me this advice: concentrate on the quit now and the weight gain later. So I did. I gained about 15-20 lbs. starting 83 days ago. At day 83 I felt the self control to start the diet. I tried low carbing before but failed. This time, I am feelign success. I am down eight lbs. since last Monday.
Best advice: concentrate on the quit now, worry about the other stuff down the road. It's not that far down the road, all.
Rootboy out.... just five days from HOF 100
-
Maybe we can alter that old saying, " I may be fat, but you're ugly. Atleast I can go on a diet."
to:
"I may be fat, but I don't have a big hole in the side of my face. Atleast I can go on a diet."
Congratz on your quit.
-
nice work, root. food discipline is something i lack. i go in fits and spurts with eating healthy (never a "diet" officially, just trying to put better fuel in the machine). i've started exercising more- still not enough- which i think has kept my weight roughly the same as pre-quit.
like you, i'm feeling strong enough in my quit discipline to think about taking some more on. the quit, though, is the most important thing. you can always diet and exercise.
congrats on the 8lbs. that's some nice work. what diet are you using? the real key to weight loss is diet AND exercise... diet is huge though.
proud to be quit with you, buddy.
-
I have had the same problem, and this is great advice. You can lose the weight later, and it is much easier to focus on battling the addiction first. This guy wrote a great article on this exact topic:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/sub3.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/sub3.htm)
-
And the reason I have no speech is I have been here before. I quit for three years and for some reason caved. I thought I could have on tin to keep me awake driving home late at night. It was a bad idea. It was one of the worst ideas I have ever had, and I made plenty of bad decisions.
Like an alcoholic, if you quit and then fall off the wagon, you fall harder and harder each time. From a few dips a day to a can a day.
So maybe I will check back in in a year here and reply to my post. Until then, I remain an addict and pray I stay fully fastened in my wagon seatbelt.
-
...but I didn't. I have been quit 127 days now, and in 2003, I quit for three years before caving. So why am I suprised I wanted to cave after quitting yet again?
I always will be an addict. The toughest times for me are when I travel. That's what I am doing now. I am on the west coast for the week, spend a lot of time in the hotel room and always found dipping to be a comfort.
I didn't cave. I wanted to. Then came the message. I go to the door, pick up USA Today and the cover story is on majnor league baseball looking to ban chewing tobacco. Very interesting read. PLayers talk about wanting to quit, but they cannot, too addicted. I beat it and won't be in thier shoes again. Plus, some health stuff in there that is very scary, even for us quitters.
If you have any thoughts of caving, read today's USA Today article. It is a sign for all of us.
-
That's Awesome! Stay Quit!
-
She's a sneaky bitch. A day at a time and be always on your guard.
-
In that article Brad Peacock of the Washington Nationals said he doesn't dip in front of his kids. So his kids don't watch his games? What about the millions of other kids who watch him spit all over the pitcher's mound? Addict speak all over this article.
-
In that article Brad Peacock of the Washington Nationals said he doesn't dip in front of his kids. So his kids don't watch his games? What about the millions of other kids who watch him spit all over the pitcher's mound? Addict speak all over this article.
Yep. I don't remember a single one of them calling it anything other than a "habit." It just makes you shake your head.
-
In that article Brad Peacock of the Washington Nationals said he doesn't dip in front of his kids. So his kids don't watch his games? What about the millions of other kids who watch him spit all over the pitcher's mound? Addict speak all over this article.
Yep. I don't remember a single one of them calling it anything other than a "habit." It just makes you shake your head.
I guess I give a pass to calling it a habit while you are using, whether its dip, or heroin, or meth or whatever. Identifying yourself as an addict compels you to do something about it. If you are not ready to do something about it, you have to identify yourself a different way...like someone who "has a bad habit".
I'm not saying it's right, rather it is the way our addicted brains apparently work.
You probably won't hear a crack head call himself a crackhead until he gets himself in recovery. I guess I don't see nicotine any different than crack....except you can by it in the store and use it at work if you want to.
That's what I like and respect about you guys and KTC philosophy....call a spade a spade and speak the gospel truth about this nasty shit we all loved so much and the companies and industries that push it to make money.
-
I go with my buddies for a long weekend to the NC coast once a year to play golf. THis is the first year of my quit while down there with these guys. I never dipped in front of them. But we did smoke cigars during a round and on the back deck popping some cold ones.
I don't even like cigars, but it seemed like the thing to do. So if I were to puff on a couple Cubans next month when away on this golf trip, will that nicotine feeling send me down the wrong path?
-
I go with my buddies for a long weekend to the NC coast once a year to play golf. THis is the first year of my quit while down there with these guys. I never dipped in front of them. But we did smoke cigars during a round and on the back deck popping some cold ones.
I don't even like cigars, but it seemed like the thing to do. So if I were to puff on a couple Cubans next month when away on this golf trip, will that nicotine feeling send me down the wrong path?
Any nicotine = cave. Not worth it, just pass on the cigar and enjoy your golf trip free of nicotine.
-
I go with my buddies for a long weekend to the NC coast once a year to play golf. THis is the first year of my quit while down there with these guys. I never dipped in front of them. But we did smoke cigars during a round and on the back deck popping some cold ones.
I don't even like cigars, but it seemed like the thing to do. So if I were to puff on a couple Cubans next month when away on this golf trip, will that nicotine feeling send me down the wrong path?
First, you would be ingesting nicotine. Here, we call that a cave and a Day 1 post.
Second, I wish I could find the posts quickly, but I've read several folks talk about smoking one cigar and then slowly smoking more and more cigars and then realizing they were using nic again and they might as well go hit the can. I've heard several variations of this story.
I know a military guy who always has Cubans. When we golf, no more cubans for me. It's not worth the risk. Also, I closed the door on nicotine.
-
I go with my buddies for a long weekend to the NC coast once a year to play golf. THis is the first year of my quit while down there with these guys. I never dipped in front of them. But we did smoke cigars during a round and on the back deck popping some cold ones.
I don't even like cigars, but it seemed like the thing to do. So if I were to puff on a couple Cubans next month when away on this golf trip, will that nicotine feeling send me down the wrong path?
Any nicotine = cave. Not worth it, just pass on the cigar and enjoy your golf trip free of nicotine.
the wrong path....... SERIOUSLY??????
You need to have your Damn head checked.
One Puff = FAIL = CAVE!!!
-
I go with my buddies for a long weekend to the NC coast once a year to play golf. THis is the first year of my quit while down there with these guys. I never dipped in front of them. But we did smoke cigars during a round and on the back deck popping some cold ones.
I don't even like cigars, but it seemed like the thing to do. So if I were to puff on a couple Cubans next month when away on this golf trip, will that nicotine feeling send me down the wrong path?
Any nicotine = cave. Not worth it, just pass on the cigar and enjoy your golf trip free of nicotine.
the wrong path....... SERIOUSLY??????
You need to have your Damn head checked.
One Puff = FAIL = CAVE!!!
Root, you already know the answer or you wouldn't be asking. I'm with the others...One Puff = FAIL.
-
I go with my buddies for a long weekend to the NC coast once a year to play golf. THis is the first year of my quit while down there with these guys. I never dipped in front of them. But we did smoke cigars during a round and on the back deck popping some cold ones.
I don't even like cigars, but it seemed like the thing to do. So if I were to puff on a couple Cubans next month when away on this golf trip, will that nicotine feeling send me down the wrong path?
Any nicotine = cave. Not worth it, just pass on the cigar and enjoy your golf trip free of nicotine.
the wrong path....... SERIOUSLY??????
You need to have your Damn head checked.
One Puff = FAIL = CAVE!!!
Root, you already know the answer or you wouldn't be asking. I'm with the others...One Puff = FAIL.
So your out on a boys weekend.
Let's say you have a couple zimas.
Catch a little buzz.
You get offered a cigar.
You ask yourself "what's one cigar?"
You smoke said cigar.
The next day you feel that crave...
You tell yourself, "Hey, I can bum one dip"
The next day that craves a little stronger.
You buy a can because "Im out of town, I'll stop before I get home!"
Your back to square one.
Your addicted to nicotine.
Not just dip.
No cigars.
-
I go with my buddies for a long weekend to the NC coast once a year to play golf. THis is the first year of my quit while down there with these guys. I never dipped in front of them. But we did smoke cigars during a round and on the back deck popping some cold ones.
I don't even like cigars, but it seemed like the thing to do. So if I were to puff on a couple Cubans next month when away on this golf trip, will that nicotine feeling send me down the wrong path?
Any nicotine = cave. Not worth it, just pass on the cigar and enjoy your golf trip free of nicotine.
the wrong path....... SERIOUSLY??????
You need to have your Damn head checked.
One Puff = FAIL = CAVE!!!
Root, you already know the answer or you wouldn't be asking. I'm with the others...One Puff = FAIL.
So your out on a boys weekend.
Let's say you have a couple zimas.
Catch a little buzz.
You get offered a cigar.
You ask yourself "what's one cigar?"
You smoke said cigar.
The next day you feel that crave...
You tell yourself, "Hey, I can bum one dip"
The next day that craves a little stronger.
You buy a can because "Im out of town, I'll stop before I get home!"
Your back to square one.
Your addicted to nicotine.
Not just dip.
No cigars.
Oh stop it!!!! You are making me crave!!!! Gad damn it!!!!
Now I'm going to have to find the money for it!!!!
God, I miss golf since getting divorced!!!!
-
Let's say you have a couple zimas.
He going to GMann's for the weekend?
-
Let's say you have a couple zimas.
He going to GMann's for the weekend?
'crackup'
-
I got it. That's why I ask those here. Plus, your breath stinks for like three days and the taste is awful.
Thanks all.
-
Today is day 418 and I still have dreams that I can have just one dip. I wake up with relief. You all do the same. Quit forever. I quit for three years once and then had THAT one. Five years later and I am on day 418.
Stay Quit my friends, stay quit.
-
Today is day 418 and I still have dreams that I can have just one dip. I wake up with relief. You all do the same. Quit forever. I quit for three years once and then had THAT one. Five years later and I am on day 418.
Stay Quit my friends, stay quit.
I'll be honest. I hate this post. Not because it was bad but because it forces me to face reality.
Fact is that sometimes truth is a hard pill to swallow. I tell myself everyday that I am an addict. My head tells me I am cured.
I read this and understand that I must keep my guard up every day I live.
I have said that I am at war for life. I think I am starting to understand what that means.
If nic wants a fight, I'm game. Thanks for the thoughts, It woke me up today.
Piss on tobacco. Dreams, Funks, Depression? I'll take it and hate nic more!
-
Today is day 418 and I still have dreams that I can have just one dip. I wake up with relief. You all do the same. Quit forever. I quit for three years once and then had THAT one. Five years later and I am on day 418.Â
Stay Quit my friends, stay quit.
I'll be honest. I hate this post. Not because it was bad but because it forces me to face reality.
Fact is that sometimes truth is a hard pill to swallow. I tell myself everyday that I am an addict. My head tells me I am cured.
I read this and understand that I must keep my guard up every day I live.
I have said that I am at war for life. I think I am starting to understand what that means.
If nic wants a fight, I'm game. Thanks for the thoughts, It woke me up today.
Piss on tobacco. Dreams, Funks, Depression? I'll take it and hate nic more!
To answer your question, yes I have dreams like that. I had a dip dream last week that fuct with me the whole next day. I look at it this way; I stuffed that shit in my body daily for 30 years. Whatever pain I have to endure to stay quit.. I earned.
Great Post. Keep fighting
STAY QUIT
Greg
-
This weekend I will hit day 700. Next month will be two years. I feel like I've never dipped before. I gave it up once for nearly three years and then caved. So odd. This quit feels different. So I ask myself, why did I quit THIS time?
Chewing tobacco was ruling every decision of my life. It controlled my emotions, from fear of cancer and dying to relaxation. I wanted to take the control back.
Why did you quit?
-
I actually didn't even plan to quit, I had wanted to but was always a big pussy and thought I could never do it. Like so many others on here; I was tired of being controlled by a can and I wanted to get rid of the thoughts of dipping taking me away from my loving family so; one day I was out of cash and my wife had my debit card and I wasn't able to buy a can, so I went to work without any and while I was at work I started surfing the internet about quitting dipping and stumbled upon this site and I read the intro's and the hall of fame speeches and realized right then that I could quit, so I registered on KTC, made some great friends and haven't looked back since.
-
This weekend I will hit day 700. Next month will be two years. I feel like I've never dipped before. I gave it up once for nearly three years and then caved. So odd. This quit feels different. So I ask myself, why did I quit THIS time?
Chewing tobacco was ruling every decision of my life. It controlled my emotions, from fear of cancer and dying to relaxation. I wanted to take the control back.
Why did you quit?
Because of bad ass quiters like you that told me how much better life would be without it. Thank you for going before me and paving the way, so that when I didn't know what the future held, people like you were able to enlighten me. The circle continues.
-
I finally matured enough to understand that I lacked control over my life. By giving power to my addiction, I was harming myself and others.
And then came the meaningful accountability called KTC.
-
This weekend I will hit day 700. Next month will be two years. I feel like I've never dipped before. I gave it up once for nearly three years and then caved. So odd. This quit feels different. So I ask myself, why did I quit THIS time?
Chewing tobacco was ruling every decision of my life. It controlled my emotions, from fear of cancer and dying to relaxation. I wanted to take the control back.
Why did you quit?
*poof* I got nothin
-
If felt like the right time. I wanted to own my quit vs. just "quitting" like before. I have never felt better about this decision!
Congrats on your quit!
-
I hit two years quit recently, you can do it. Keep at it. POST ROLL EVERY SINGLE DAY!!
-
I hit two years quit recently, you can do it. Keep at it. POST ROLL EVERY SINGLE DAY!!
Damn, thats awesome Root, congrats! you are a badass quitter!
-
I hit two years quit recently, you can do it. Keep at it. POST ROLL EVERY SINGLE DAY!!
Damn, thats awesome Root, congrats! you are a badass quitter!
Badass bro. Bad. Ass!
-
I hit two years quit recently, you can do it. Keep at it. POST ROLL EVERY SINGLE DAY!!
Damn, thats awesome Root, congrats! you are a badass quitter!
Badass bro. Bad. Ass!
I am glad to see you at 2 years rootboy, and I second the sentiment of posting every day.
how is it that you offer such sage advice and dont follow it? 2 years = equals 730 days. You have 337 posts.
I wholeheartedly support your quit and endorse your advice of posting roll every day. It just sounds hollow coming out of a hypocrite.
-
I hit two years quit recently, you can do it. Keep at it. POST ROLL EVERY SINGLE DAY!!
Damn, thats awesome Root, congrats! you are a badass quitter!
Badass bro. Bad. Ass!
I am glad to see you at 2 years rootboy, and I second the sentiment of posting every day.
how is it that you offer such sage advice and dont follow it? 2 years = equals 730 days. You have 337 posts.
I wholeheartedly support your quit and endorse your advice of posting roll every day. It just sounds hollow coming out of a hypocrite.
Damn. Touche'.
-
I hit two years quit recently, you can do it. Keep at it. POST ROLL EVERY SINGLE DAY!!
Damn, thats awesome Root, congrats! you are a badass quitter!
Badass bro. Bad. Ass!
I am glad to see you at 2 years rootboy, and I second the sentiment of posting every day.
how is it that you offer such sage advice and dont follow it? 2 years = equals 730 days. You have 337 posts.
I wholeheartedly support your quit and endorse your advice of posting roll every day. It just sounds hollow coming out of a hypocrite.
You noticed too, huh?
It IS great advice though.
-
Why did you start a new intro? I was reading your old one and you came in here with some controversy. I think some of the newer quitters would benefit from reading it. You had stopped for 3 years and were on the lite site before you came here. You used to be quite active and have come a long way since this statement in June of 2011...what happened? Why did you disappear? Congrats on 2 years though.
" Some posters are a bit too negative. Grow a pair etc.... WTF? Why do you think I am asking? There has been some good sound advice and for that, thank you very much.
If I don't post roll everyday, it is becasue I am on the road with no access. I try to get on every day for a few minutes at least. Posting roll does help. But it is a pain in the rear."
-
I hit two years quit recently, you can do it. Keep at it. POST ROLL EVERY SINGLE DAY!!
Damn, thats awesome Root, congrats! you are a badass quitter!
Badass bro. Bad. Ass!
I am glad to see you at 2 years rootboy, and I second the sentiment of posting every day.
how is it that you offer such sage advice and dont follow it? 2 years = equals 730 days. You have 337 posts.
I wholeheartedly support your quit and endorse your advice of posting roll every day. It just sounds hollow coming out of a hypocrite.
Damn. Touche'.
I can guess what he did with the other 390 days where he wasn't posting roll.
Let me ask you a couple of questions, douche bag:
Do you keep in touch with your quit group?
Do you have any mechanism for support?
Have you posted roll since you created your second introduction? I see that you have not.
And most importantly:
What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?
There is some of the strongest quit in your group. You fucked them by not supporting them. Here are the rules, as you so eloquently stated:
1. Wake Up.
2. Post roll.
3. Rinse.
4. Repeat.
Why is this such a fucking hard concept to people? And for the people who do get it, why on earth would you not follow the recipe for success here?
Hit and run, waste of time. Nothing to see here folks...just move along.
-
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
-
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it#146;ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
-
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
Hey Diesel - I know you weren't ripping him. I wrote what I wrote more in response to Frazzled and Jost. I have a lot of respect for what you do and your level of involvement with the site. I know you can get as, um, "lively" as anyone here, but I generally interpret your comments as coming from a place where the goal is to help (not to degrade). The language may be colorful, and the style may be more direct than some would like, but I feel like you're on point and you truly have the ultimate goal of keeping people quit. I never see just random, counterproductive invective hurling and name calling outta you :) Not that that is illegal by any means - free speech and all - I'm not the goddamn grammar police. It's just, if this is a "support" group, and people are going to post, maybe try to have a nugget of wisdom (or support!) somewhere in the post, you know. Anyway, yeah, not aimed at you Diesel. I've got nothing but respect (and a boner?) for what you do here.
-
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
Hey Diesel - I know you weren't ripping him. I wrote what I wrote more in response to Frazzled and Jost. I have a lot of respect for what you do and your level of involvement with the site. I know you can get as, um, "lively" as anyone here, but I generally interpret your comments as coming from a place where the goal is to help (not to degrade). The language may be colorful, and the style may be more direct than some would like, but I feel like you're on point and you truly have the ultimate goal of keeping people quit. I never see just random, counterproductive invective hurling and name calling outta you :) Not that that is illegal by any means - free speech and all - I'm not the goddamn grammar police. It's just, if this is a "support" group, and people are going to post, maybe try to have a nugget of wisdom (or support!) somewhere in the post, you know. Anyway, yeah, not aimed at you Diesel. I've got nothing but respect (and a boner?) for what you do here.
The recipe here does not end after Day 100. While we understand that others have many other ways of quitting, our recipe stands and a success story a ton of people.
I'm on day 886. I post every day - before I shit, shower and shave.
I watch out for my brothers and sisters to make sure they are posting, or look for signs in their posts that sound like the nic bitch is lurking. I have people's digits, use them regularly, and also communicate with them in other ways - PM, Wildcard, any other place I can.
My question is this - if you quit, and then disappear - what good did you do for the group you quit with? Did you help a brother who was considering a cave? Did you offer prayers when they were asked for in Wildcard? Did you do anything other than post for 1/2 your time and then take a shit on everybody?
Get this through your heads - this site is about brotherhood.
If you think you can just breeze by and say "I've just quit for two years" and you have no daily evidence to prove it, then perhaps you need to question whether you want to support others or be a lone wolf. Lone wolves often come back and post Day 1 or never come back at all.
Get your shit straight. This is what we do, and how we do it. Don't wanna do iit...
...get the fuck out and congratulate with someone you actually know.
-
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
Hey Diesel - I know you weren't ripping him. I wrote what I wrote more in response to Frazzled and Jost. I have a lot of respect for what you do and your level of involvement with the site. I know you can get as, um, "lively" as anyone here, but I generally interpret your comments as coming from a place where the goal is to help (not to degrade). The language may be colorful, and the style may be more direct than some would like, but I feel like you're on point and you truly have the ultimate goal of keeping people quit. I never see just random, counterproductive invective hurling and name calling outta you :) Not that that is illegal by any means - free speech and all - I'm not the goddamn grammar police. It's just, if this is a "support" group, and people are going to post, maybe try to have a nugget of wisdom (or support!) somewhere in the post, you know. Anyway, yeah, not aimed at you Diesel. I've got nothing but respect (and a boner?) for what you do here.
The recipe here does not end after Day 100. While we understand that others have many other ways of quitting, our recipe stands and a success story a ton of people.
I'm on day 886. I post every day - before I shit, shower and shave.
I watch out for my brothers and sisters to make sure they are posting, or look for signs in their posts that sound like the nic bitch is lurking. I have people's digits, use them regularly, and also communicate with them in other ways - PM, Wildcard, any other place I can.
My question is this - if you quit, and then disappear - what good did you do for the group you quit with? Did you help a brother who was considering a cave? Did you offer prayers when they were asked for in Wildcard? Did you do anything other than post for 1/2 your time and then take a shit on everybody?
Get this through your heads - this site is about brotherhood.
If you think you can just breeze by and say "I've just quit for two years" and you have no daily evidence to prove it, then perhaps you need to question whether you want to support others or be a lone wolf. Lone wolves often come back and post Day 1 or never come back at all.
Get your shit straight. This is what we do, and how we do it. Don't wanna do iit...
...get the fuck out and congratulate with someone you actually know.
I'll make this easier for you...
Past HOF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=123)
Why We Are Here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7568)
Brotherhood is an Investment (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6718)
Brotherhood (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4308)
See a pattern here? This site is filled with examples of the need for brotherhood. 340 posts in 730 days doesn't match up to that.
So...do you wish to support those who actually give a shit and support you?
Or...do you not care enough about anyone other than yourself, and let others fall off roll (perhaps without you even knowing)?
That is why 340 posts in 2 years make us give you shit. I just happen to go nuclear because I don't accept excuses or fancy rationalizations. Some o fmy brothers deal with this differently.
Quit on.
~Frazz
-
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
Hey Diesel - I know you weren't ripping him. I wrote what I wrote more in response to Frazzled and Jost. I have a lot of respect for what you do and your level of involvement with the site. I know you can get as, um, "lively" as anyone here, but I generally interpret your comments as coming from a place where the goal is to help (not to degrade). The language may be colorful, and the style may be more direct than some would like, but I feel like you're on point and you truly have the ultimate goal of keeping people quit. I never see just random, counterproductive invective hurling and name calling outta you :) Not that that is illegal by any means - free speech and all - I'm not the goddamn grammar police. It's just, if this is a "support" group, and people are going to post, maybe try to have a nugget of wisdom (or support!) somewhere in the post, you know. Anyway, yeah, not aimed at you Diesel. I've got nothing but respect (and a boner?) for what you do here.
The recipe here does not end after Day 100. While we understand that others have many other ways of quitting, our recipe stands and a success story a ton of people.
I'm on day 886. I post every day - before I shit, shower and shave.
I watch out for my brothers and sisters to make sure they are posting, or look for signs in their posts that sound like the nic bitch is lurking. I have people's digits, use them regularly, and also communicate with them in other ways - PM, Wildcard, any other place I can.
My question is this - if you quit, and then disappear - what good did you do for the group you quit with? Did you help a brother who was considering a cave? Did you offer prayers when they were asked for in Wildcard? Did you do anything other than post for 1/2 your time and then take a shit on everybody?
Get this through your heads - this site is about brotherhood.
If you think you can just breeze by and say "I've just quit for two years" and you have no daily evidence to prove it, then perhaps you need to question whether you want to support others or be a lone wolf. Lone wolves often come back and post Day 1 or never come back at all.
Get your shit straight. This is what we do, and how we do it. Don't wanna do iit...
...get the fuck out and congratulate with someone you actually know.
I'll make this easier for you...
Past HOF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=123)
Why We Are Here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7568)
Brotherhood is an Investment (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6718)
Brotherhood (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4308)
See a pattern here? This site is filled with examples of the need for brotherhood. 340 posts in 730 days doesn't match up to that.
So...do you wish to support those who actually give a shit and support you?
Or...do you not care enough about anyone other than yourself, and let others fall off roll (perhaps without you even knowing)?
That is why 340 posts in 2 years make us give you shit. I just happen to go nuclear because I don't accept excuses or fancy rationalizations. Some o fmy brothers deal with this differently.
Quit on.
~Frazz
Day 1,179 here. Know this - I am $8.00 and a bad decision away from a can and a half a day. I am no more 'cured' here than the guy reading this who is on Day 1.
Yes, it's easier.
Yes, it's worth it.
Yes, it is very, very hard.
Yes, I post roll EVERY damn day.
Out of respect for the guys who came before, and after. Out of respect for my June 2010 bros. out of respect for those who will read this in two years and are wondering if they can make it through Day 4.
I posted in here out of respect for Frazzled. He asked me to.
Frazz gives a fuck. About you. That's why he's here. That's why he's taking his time and spending it on you.
I don't know what is going on, but I'll bet root came back and waved his dick at everybody and left again. Root may be a good guy, but he's not the biggest supporter. Good friend of mine Quit here. Made his 100 days, never came back. I see him every day. I don't depend on him when I have a crave. And while I think he's Quit, I don't KNOW he's Quit.
It takes 45 seconds for me to post on my phone while I'm on the shitter. Easy enough.
If you want support, look to those who are here every damn day. That's why we are here. Even if I don't post all over the place, and my new job locks this site out, Frazz asked, and here I am.
That's how we do.
Not some random, drive by bullshit.
-
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
Hey Diesel - I know you weren't ripping him. I wrote what I wrote more in response to Frazzled and Jost. I have a lot of respect for what you do and your level of involvement with the site. I know you can get as, um, "lively" as anyone here, but I generally interpret your comments as coming from a place where the goal is to help (not to degrade). The language may be colorful, and the style may be more direct than some would like, but I feel like you're on point and you truly have the ultimate goal of keeping people quit. I never see just random, counterproductive invective hurling and name calling outta you :) Not that that is illegal by any means - free speech and all - I'm not the goddamn grammar police. It's just, if this is a "support" group, and people are going to post, maybe try to have a nugget of wisdom (or support!) somewhere in the post, you know. Anyway, yeah, not aimed at you Diesel. I've got nothing but respect (and a boner?) for what you do here.
The recipe here does not end after Day 100. While we understand that others have many other ways of quitting, our recipe stands and a success story a ton of people.
I'm on day 886. I post every day - before I shit, shower and shave.
I watch out for my brothers and sisters to make sure they are posting, or look for signs in their posts that sound like the nic bitch is lurking. I have people's digits, use them regularly, and also communicate with them in other ways - PM, Wildcard, any other place I can.
My question is this - if you quit, and then disappear - what good did you do for the group you quit with? Did you help a brother who was considering a cave? Did you offer prayers when they were asked for in Wildcard? Did you do anything other than post for 1/2 your time and then take a shit on everybody?
Get this through your heads - this site is about brotherhood.
If you think you can just breeze by and say "I've just quit for two years" and you have no daily evidence to prove it, then perhaps you need to question whether you want to support others or be a lone wolf. Lone wolves often come back and post Day 1 or never come back at all.
Get your shit straight. This is what we do, and how we do it. Don't wanna do iit...
...get the fuck out and congratulate with someone you actually know.
I'll make this easier for you...
Past HOF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=123)
Why We Are Here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7568)
Brotherhood is an Investment (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6718)
Brotherhood (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4308)
See a pattern here? This site is filled with examples of the need for brotherhood. 340 posts in 730 days doesn't match up to that.
So...do you wish to support those who actually give a shit and support you?
Or...do you not care enough about anyone other than yourself, and let others fall off roll (perhaps without you even knowing)?
That is why 340 posts in 2 years make us give you shit. I just happen to go nuclear because I don't accept excuses or fancy rationalizations. Some o fmy brothers deal with this differently.
Quit on.
~Frazz
Day 1,179 here. Know this - I am $8.00 and a bad decision away from a can and a half a day. I am no more 'cured' here than the guy reading this who is on Day 1.
Yes, it's easier.
Yes, it's worth it.
Yes, it is very, very hard.
Yes, I post roll EVERY damn day.
Out of respect for the guys who came before, and after. Out of respect for my June 2010 bros. out of respect for those who will read this in two years and are wondering if they can make it through Day 4.
I posted in here out of respect for Frazzled. He asked me to.
Frazz gives a fuck. About you. That's why he's here. That's why he's taking his time and spending it on you.
I don't know what is going on, but I'll bet root came back and waved his dick at everybody and left again. Root may be a good guy, but he's not the biggest supporter. Good friend of mine Quit here. Made his 100 days, never came back. I see him every day. I don't depend on him when I have a crave. And while I think he's Quit, I don't KNOW he's Quit.
It takes 45 seconds for me to post on my phone while I'm on the shitter. Easy enough.
If you want support, look to those who are here every damn day. That's why we are here. Even if I don't post all over the place, and my new job locks this site out, Frazz asked, and here I am.
That's how we do.
Not some random, drive by bullshit.
Two things
1) he didn't post roll today
2) pre-HOF he posted 67% of the time. He was one of the two worst posters in his quit group who reached the hall.
His drive-by is insulting. But then again, I flamed out of August 2011 and he's still a "regular" so what the fuck do I know.
-
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
The title of the post is “Hey Newcomers”, meaning the intended audience is people who are new to the site (maybe they’re quit one day, or two, or twenty – whatever). But certainly after 100 days (when Hall of Fame status is reached), and definitely after one year, one can no longer be considered a “newcomer”, right? So, I don’t know that rootboyslim is saying “post every day for the rest of your life”, I think he’s saying something closer to “post every day while you’re a newcomer” (whatever his definition of newcomer is). I don’t know how to go look at posting statistics or whatever, but my guess would be that he posted frequently during the early part of his quit, and has tailed off (or completely left) since. I personally see no crime in that. After two years, does everyone from his group post every day? I seriously doubt it. But he is the only one being called a hypocrite and a douche bag because he had the audacity to create a post - aimed at “newcomers” - showing them that no matter what kind of hell they’re going through now, it is actually possible to get to the two year mark.
And I guess I don’t understand the question, “What the fuck have you done to support your fellow quitters from your last post to the two-year mark?” Looks to me like he posted in his intro on April 11, which was around day 700 for him. Are you asking what he’s done between April 11 and yesterday to support the people in his group? What does that mean? Are you asking if he has posted roll in the last two months? And if the answer is “no”, that means he’s “fucking” his fellow group members? How many guys, quit for more than 21 months, started dipping again because they didn’t see rootboyslim’s name on the roll every day? None – and if someone did, his/her quit was weak as hell to begin with (which would contradict the notion that “there is some of the strongest quit” in that group). And what “support” are his group members missing out on by him not logging in and spending two minutes posting every morning? I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who else’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day). This is my quit. If someone caves and/or stops posting, my quit gets stronger. And I hope to hell that after two years it’ll be damn near invincible. If people stop posting and/or cave, it is instructive for me (not destructive), because it allows me to see how close to the edge we all are. And if some in my group choose not to post daily, I won’t cry myself to sleep at night, and I sure as hell won’t cave. If I require daily interaction with quitters on this site, and my roll buddies ain’t cutting it, I’ll go into chat or peruse the introductions. It seems to me like a lot of veterans here derive strength from helping/supporting others (usually the newbies). And that’s great, it helps us all. But two years from now, if I’m not best friends with everyone in my quit group, and I’m not “keeping in touch” with them (it would be great, however, if we were all best friends and had weekly orgies), it’s not going to affect my quit. I will be helping newbies like everyone else.
After a certain point (100 days, a year, whatever), if someone wants to post every day, fine. If not, fine. EveryoneÂ’s quit is different. This isnÂ’t a cult (that I know of).Â
I don’t know. I’m on day 67, I guess I don’t know shit. But to rip an accomplished quitter like that, when all he was doing was offering words of encouragement/advice to newcomers, just seems mean spirited, and in the end, who is it helping? Maybe it’s supposed to come across as “tough love” or something. But if everyone here needs this “support” you speak of, I think you’re going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion. Not a “fucking hard concept” at all.
I pointed out I wished he would have continued from his original intro as their was some good info in there. And in the beginning he wasn't posting roll, that quote is from him in his early days", but that he had come a long way since then.
Perhaps his post was sarcastic? I don't know, I don't follow Sept 2011 group.
I wasn't ripping him.
Hey Diesel - I know you weren't ripping him. I wrote what I wrote more in response to Frazzled and Jost. I have a lot of respect for what you do and your level of involvement with the site. I know you can get as, um, "lively" as anyone here, but I generally interpret your comments as coming from a place where the goal is to help (not to degrade). The language may be colorful, and the style may be more direct than some would like, but I feel like you're on point and you truly have the ultimate goal of keeping people quit. I never see just random, counterproductive invective hurling and name calling outta you :) Not that that is illegal by any means - free speech and all - I'm not the goddamn grammar police. It's just, if this is a "support" group, and people are going to post, maybe try to have a nugget of wisdom (or support!) somewhere in the post, you know. Anyway, yeah, not aimed at you Diesel. I've got nothing but respect (and a boner?) for what you do here.
The recipe here does not end after Day 100. While we understand that others have many other ways of quitting, our recipe stands and a success story a ton of people.
I'm on day 886. I post every day - before I shit, shower and shave.
I watch out for my brothers and sisters to make sure they are posting, or look for signs in their posts that sound like the nic bitch is lurking. I have people's digits, use them regularly, and also communicate with them in other ways - PM, Wildcard, any other place I can.
My question is this - if you quit, and then disappear - what good did you do for the group you quit with? Did you help a brother who was considering a cave? Did you offer prayers when they were asked for in Wildcard? Did you do anything other than post for 1/2 your time and then take a shit on everybody?
Get this through your heads - this site is about brotherhood.
If you think you can just breeze by and say "I've just quit for two years" and you have no daily evidence to prove it, then perhaps you need to question whether you want to support others or be a lone wolf. Lone wolves often come back and post Day 1 or never come back at all.
Get your shit straight. This is what we do, and how we do it. Don't wanna do iit...
...get the fuck out and congratulate with someone you actually know.
I'll make this easier for you...
Past HOF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=123)
Why We Are Here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7568)
Brotherhood is an Investment (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6718)
Brotherhood (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4308)
See a pattern here? This site is filled with examples of the need for brotherhood. 340 posts in 730 days doesn't match up to that.
So...do you wish to support those who actually give a shit and support you?
Or...do you not care enough about anyone other than yourself, and let others fall off roll (perhaps without you even knowing)?
That is why 340 posts in 2 years make us give you shit. I just happen to go nuclear because I don't accept excuses or fancy rationalizations. Some o fmy brothers deal with this differently.
Quit on.
~Frazz
Day 1,179 here. Know this - I am $8.00 and a bad decision away from a can and a half a day. I am no more 'cured' here than the guy reading this who is on Day 1.
Yes, it's easier.
Yes, it's worth it.
Yes, it is very, very hard.
Yes, I post roll EVERY damn day.
Out of respect for the guys who came before, and after. Out of respect for my June 2010 bros. out of respect for those who will read this in two years and are wondering if they can make it through Day 4.
I posted in here out of respect for Frazzled. He asked me to.
Frazz gives a fuck. About you. That's why he's here. That's why he's taking his time and spending it on you.
I don't know what is going on, but I'll bet root came back and waved his dick at everybody and left again. Root may be a good guy, but he's not the biggest supporter. Good friend of mine Quit here. Made his 100 days, never came back. I see him every day. I don't depend on him when I have a crave. And while I think he's Quit, I don't KNOW he's Quit.
It takes 45 seconds for me to post on my phone while I'm on the shitter. Easy enough.
If you want support, look to those who are here every damn day. That's why we are here. Even if I don't post all over the place, and my new job locks this site out, Frazz asked, and here I am.
That's how we do.
Not some random, drive by bullshit.
Two things
1) he didn't post roll today
2) pre-HOF he posted 67% of the time. He was one of the two worst posters in his quit group who reached the hall.
His drive-by is insulting. But then again, I flamed out of August 2011 and he's still a "regular" so what the fuck do I know.
 I wrote what I wrote more in response to Frazzled and Jost.
You have an issue with two stalwarts of quit who helped 1000s of guys along the way calling out this quitter? Back that truck up there ...
You want to be an island until yourself I know for me personally, I could give a fuck who elseÂ’s name is posted when I post (for the record, I post every single day
where is the brotherhood and accountability in that statement and how the FRICK are you going to 'pay it forward and teach the new guys" if you haven't learned the concept of posting every damn day, looking out for your brothers so we all stay clean???
'bang head'
-
Can't we all just get along? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0)
Look, the KTC program is to:
Post roll
Keep your word
Repeat.
We all know that.
This dude is 2 years quit and is averaging a post every 2 days. If he wants to chance that his way (which has a success rate of 5%), then fine. I'll shrug my shoulders and move on. I don't suggest it over this site's method (which sees nearly 4 times success rate of that and 100% success for those following the steps above).
Shrug your shoulders and move on.
He's quit, and that's all that matters. I hate nicotine.
Let's focus our energy on those that need it most and give them a fighting chance rather than bitch about some dude that may read this in February 2014.
-
Can't we all just get along? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0)
Look, the KTC program is to:
Post roll
Keep your word
Repeat.
We all know that.
This dude is 2 years quit and is averaging a post every 2 days. If he wants to chance that his way (which has a success rate of 5%), then fine. I'll shrug my shoulders and move on. I don't suggest it over this site's method (which sees nearly 4 times success rate of that and 100% success for those following the steps above).
Shrug your shoulders and move on.
He's quit, and that's all that matters. I hate nicotine.
Let's focus our energy on those that need it most and give them a fighting chance rather than bitch about some dude that may read this in February 2014.
Nah, he's reading it now. I tried to look back and find it multiple times but it was apparenlty melded into this. I started a new thread, and now it is with an old thread. Good to know so I won't spend time searching other ways.
Not sure whats up with the post count. Seems to me I post most days. THough parry got after me when I missed a weekend. Glad to know folks are still watching over us and holding us accountable. I can say I'm busy, and so is everyone else. I can say I have other obligations, and so does everyone else. I suppose the post count doesn't lie, but dang it seems not accurate. Glad to now the dicks are still here. Maybe we/I need that. The fact of the matter is I will try and post as often as I can, and I hope that means every day. ANd for what it may be worth, I never received a single PM through the first two years from my biggest "supporters" on here. Just some of my quit brothers, and to them, cheers.
'fireman'
-
Can't we all just get along? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0)
Look, the KTC program is to:
Post roll
Keep your word
Repeat.
We all know that.
This dude is 2 years quit and is averaging a post every 2 days. If he wants to chance that his way (which has a success rate of 5%), then fine. I'll shrug my shoulders and move on. I don't suggest it over this site's method (which sees nearly 4 times success rate of that and 100% success for those following the steps above).
Shrug your shoulders and move on.
He's quit, and that's all that matters. I hate nicotine.
Let's focus our energy on those that need it most and give them a fighting chance rather than bitch about some dude that may read this in February 2014.
Nah, he's reading it now. I tried to look back and find it multiple times but it was apparenlty melded into this. I started a new thread, and now it is with an old thread. Good to know so I won't spend time searching other ways.
Not sure whats up with the post count. Seems to me I post most days. THough parry got after me when I missed a weekend. Glad to know folks are still watching over us and holding us accountable. I can say I'm busy, and so is everyone else. I can say I have other obligations, and so does everyone else. I suppose the post count doesn't lie, but dang it seems not accurate. Glad to now the dicks are still here. Maybe we/I need that. The fact of the matter is I will try and post as often as I can, and I hope that means every day. ANd for what it may be worth, I never received a single PM through the first two years from my biggest "supporters" on here. Just some of my quit brothers, and to them, cheers.
'fireman'
Here's the deal, root:
Post roll every day
Reach out to new brothers and sisters
Serve as an example to others.
Don't come in here with a "Hey, Newbies" post that shows a way that is different from how we do things here.
We're all busy, we're all tired, we're all you name it. But the way we do things here is sacred and not to be messed with. If you want to post every other day, go to Lite and post there.
That's all I ask.
-
[[Here's the deal, root:
Post roll every day
Reach out to new brothers and sisters
Serve as an example to others.
Don't come in here with a "Hey, Newbies" post that shows a way that is different from how we do things here.
We're all busy, we're all tired, we're all you name it. But the way we do things here is sacred and not to be messed with. If you want to post every other day, go to Lite and post there.
That's all I ask. ]]
Thought I was doing that. Offering support to new quitters with a word of encouragement. Didn't write anything to imply a different way of doing things. Then people look up stats and try to make a deal of the past. I'm not exactly sure why they did that. I'm quit. I post when I have access to the net. I don't have a smartphone, iphone, droid. I have easiest access to the net at work---Monday thru Friday. I did not try and mess with anything here. If you show me where I did, I would be glad to reverse it.
The bottom line is this. This site helped me quit. My quit bros helped me quit. Posting each day when physically possible helped me quit. That is the message I sent.
-
I HAD A DREAM
Once again it happened. On day 786 of my quit, I vividly recall having very little spit in my mouth and a huge dip in. I recall pushing my lip hard agains tthe gum to get some of that nic out and spit. I then remembered, what are you doing, you quit? So I thought, I will finish this dip, spit it out and go back and post roll as if nothing happened. I had an inner fight with my self. Could I lie to my quit partners like that? No, I concluded. I must start back from the beginning with new quit partners.
Then I woke up. Thank, the Lord above. It wasn't true. I had to convince myself but soon I realized I was all good.
Dreams still happen. Fight it off. Keep up the good fight peeps. Today is day 788. I ain't throwing that away.