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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: mnfish2 on March 06, 2013, 02:50:00 PM
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So, new to the site and on day 1 only. My question relates to oral fixation of chewing tobacco. I've never been addicted to the nicotine....I don't get shakes or irritable or anything when I'm off nicotine for days at a time. My problem is, I need the oral fixation...something in my lip. What products have you tried and what works best? I've tried the jerky which isn't bad...it's a little rough on the gums with the salt, same with seeds. The Mint Snuff non-tobacco product is alright but it's a fairly sticky product. So...anyway, just seeing what people have to say regarding their replacement method and what worked best for them.
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I am using Winter Ice gum by Wrigley's. 2-3 pieces chewed and stuffed in the back right corner of my jaw..where I used to keep my dip. May want to try a sugarless gum.
My 2 cents. I'm only on day 2 but it's helping with the oral fixation plus it has the mint flavor like the crap I used to use.
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Well this may be a tad crude, but since I liked fine cut I just toss spent coffee grounds into a mint tin (like normal mints not mint flavored dip). Kind of messy on the removal, but been keeping me on the level. I'm with ya there man, nicotine is only a very small part of the battle. So much is purely mind games. Not much of a gum user, and seeds tear my mouth up worse than dipping ever did. It's all about finding something to put in that lip pouch. Also planted a bed of mint plants and will be shredding those once they start producing. Ironically that's what I did as a kid when I wanted to imitate my role models who just so happened to dip. Me as a ten year old walking around with a huge lipper of mint leaves, seems as though I was screwed from the get-go.
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So, new to the site and on day 1 only. My question relates to oral fixation of chewing tobacco. I've never been addicted to the nicotine....I don't get shakes or irritable or anything when I'm off nicotine for days at a time. My problem is, I need the oral fixation...something in my lip. What products have you tried and what works best? I've tried the jerky which isn't bad...it's a little rough on the gums with the salt, same with seeds. The Mint Snuff non-tobacco product is alright but it's a fairly sticky product. So...anyway, just seeing what people have to say regarding their replacement method and what worked best for them.
You are a nicotine addict. You are experiencing withdrawal.
Withdrawal symptoms will vary from person to person. One significant withdrawal symptom - the most important one, because it's what keeps you hooked - is called "craving", or if you prefer, "oral fixation". If you were not a nicotine addict, it wouldn't matter what you put in your mouth.
If you are in denial about the basic fact of your addiction, you cannot beat your addiction.
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I've never been addicted to the nicotine....
This is not true. If you've consumed it, you're addicted. Different people suffer different symtoms, but it's addiction nonetheless. Some of my worst times were probably 50+ days into my quit. Just cause you don't get shakes, doesn't change anything. It will come. You gotta be ready for the withdrawals. If you kid yourself into thinking you're different than everybody else, you're setting yourself up for failure. Don't fall in that trap.
The biggest hurdle in this battle is being honest with yourself. Well, at least it was for me.
To answer your question: I chewed seeds and jerky. More seeds than I could carry, probably. Piles of them. Yeah, my gums hurt, but I wasn't giving myself cancer.
For me, fake snuff wasn't an option. I wanted to get completely away from everything related to tobacco. But, whatever works for you. I know some guys that saved their quits with fake.
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Gum, seeds fake chew, whatever you need to keep the real shit out of your mouth.
Smokey Mountain is my crutch, but nothing is going to "fix" you but determination, time.
Do it one day at a time.
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Coffee, gum, and seeds. To each their own however.
But I have to piggyback off 9reasons and Radman as well. Don't kid yourself, you ARE addicted. If you weren't, why would you even have joined this site? The first 3 days were some of the easiest craves looking back on my 213 days. In their own wierd way they were fun and exciting. Plus you had your month's full compliment of quitters to go through the crucible with. Wait until you're 80 days in without a hint of physical symptoms and it's you versus your own mind. All while your classmates are falling by the wayside. That's what you need to come to grips with.
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I've never been addicted to the nicotine....I don't get shakes or irritable or anything when I'm off nicotine for days at a time. My problem is, I need the oral fixation...something in my lip.
Stop kidding yourself. I said the same thing too and it's bullshit. If you are not addicted to nicotine then why would you put cancer causing crap in your mouth. I'm on day 8 quit and still a little bit irritable, so I am sorry if I am coming across as a dick. KC Bronco who is knocking on the HOF door recommended Dill Pickle sunflower seeds. I gave it a shot and it's not bad. They seem a little less salty and don't tear up my mouth as much as regular seeds. You will be ready to kick this once you own up to the fact that you are addicted to nicotine. I fooled myself for years saying I wasn't addicted so I just kept dipping away. That makes no sense at all. You can quit this! As for the oral fixation, just jam something nicotine free in your mouth
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Hell, just put a dick in your mouth.
That should satisfy your "oral fixation". 'Crazy' 'Crazy'
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Parputt............could I use yours?
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Parputt............could I use yours?
Open wide and say Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :wub: :wub:
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So, new to the site and on day 1 only. My question relates to oral fixation of chewing tobacco. I've never been addicted to the nicotine....I don't get shakes or irritable or anything when I'm off nicotine for days at a time. My problem is, I need the oral fixation...something in my lip. What products have you tried and what works best? I've tried the jerky which isn't bad...it's a little rough on the gums with the salt, same with seeds. The Mint Snuff non-tobacco product is alright but it's a fairly sticky product. So...anyway, just seeing what people have to say regarding their replacement method and what worked best for them.
No, you're addicted, you just don't realize it yet! In those days you have quit, you haven't hit the point yet where you really feel the "Nicotine Cravings". When you quit your body continue to releases adrenaline for days. When your brain begins to restrict the adrenaline and other chemicals it will hit you like a brick wall, but luckily the tools to break through that brick wall will be offered to you here! The support here is second to none!
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Parputt...........not as wide as you might like to think I'm sure.
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Glad you still here reading this crap...I had you down as a one and done type of guy..Anyway there is nothing that will replace the chew..Your mind will always find something wrong the replacement. Any replacement doesn't have nicotine in it and that's what you want.
Here is the deal..I will help you quit but you need to listen. Dump, destroy, clean out everyone that has to do with nicotine in your vehicle and home. Grab some seeds, gum, hard candy, fake chew, or toothpicks. Drink a lot of water and eat some good food.
Learn how to post role and make a daily promise to yourself and to me that you quit. I will send you my information and I will quit with you each and everyday. Read all that you can, ask question, and get into the chat.
I know you can do this! You want to do this! You need to do this! I will help you do this!
Waketech 177 I quit with you! Don't be a puss!
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Parputt...........not as wide as you might like to think I'm sure.
You gonna keep trying to sweet talk me or are you gonna get with the program and use the tools on this site to beat your addiction, or oral fixation as you so fondly referred to it?
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Parputt...........not as wide as you might like to think I'm sure.
You gonna keep trying to sweet talk me or are you gonna get with the program and use the tools on this site to beat your addiction, or oral fixation as you so fondly referred to it?
Agreed I see alot of funny haha bullshitting going on but not any posting roll yet today in over 12 hours. You gonna belly up to the bar fish or are you just fucking around wasting time? This site is about quitting not picking up dudes. Your move
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What is this shit? You got a guy claiming hes not addicted to nicotine, dudes talking about sucking eachother off...Jesus Christ.
Look fish lips. If you think your not addicted to nicotine..just putting stuff in your lip. You are out of your mind and need to move along.
This site helps people beat nic addiction not a "what should I put in my lip" site.
If you honestly believe you're not a nic addict then just stuff whatever the fuck you want in your lip. Take a dump in your hand and load up. I don't care. But when you've stuck everything you can get your hands on in your lip, and still find it doesn't match up to dip...perhaps it will dawn on you that you are an addict.
When that happens, come on back. We would be happy to help you.
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You are not an original fishstick, we had a guy here a year ago make the same exact claim index.php?showtopic=6091hl= (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6091&hl=) Ho Lee Shit, you are not copenope are you?
I ask because he quit, he ended up kicking ass and looking like a superstar. But then guess what, the nicotine that he wasn't addicted to found its way right back into his cock sucker and he slithered away silently without so much as a thanks for nothing.
I never got the shakes, never got the angry shit either (mostly because I am always an asshole) but I know that without a shadow of a doubt I was addicted to nicotine, it ruled my life for nearly 30 years and that didn't happen because I enjoyed it!
Do a little learning and reading around here, get serious and when you decide you are an addict let us know and we'll help you quit.
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Dude posted up a day one...I knew he was a quitter..Nice day one see you tomorrow!
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Bigwhitebeast....I'm an original first timer and it's already day 2..time for Roll Call
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That's how the game is played fish, good to see you posted up. Through all the bullshit there really is a proven program here. Just pick one of the many oral substitutes offered up by the guys here, I'd personally pass on a nice big helping of dick, but whatever floats your boat, and take that next step toward freedom. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Just be sure to remember that.
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That's how the game is played fish, good to see you posted up. Through all the bullshit there really is a proven program here. Just pick one of the many oral substitutes offered up by the guys here, I'd personally pass on a nice big helping of dick, but whatever floats your boat, and take that next step toward freedom. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Just be sure to remember that.
x2.
Very well said.
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What is this shit? You got a guy claiming hes not addicted to nicotine, dudes talking about sucking eachother off...Jesus Christ.
Look fish lips. If you think your not addicted to nicotine..just putting stuff in your lip. You are out of your mind and need to move along.
This site helps people beat nic addiction not a "what should I put in my lip" site.
If you honestly believe you're not a nic addict then just stuff whatever the fuck you want in your lip. Take a dump in your hand and load up. I don't care. But when you've stuck everything you can get your hands on in your lip, and still find it doesn't match up to dip...perhaps it will dawn on you that you are an addict.
When that happens, come on back. We would be happy to help you.
I fucking love when you get fired up!!
I read this earlier and as soon as I read it i could not wait for ole Diesel to ........................................................................................................................... 'B.S.'
I quit with you too Fish Lips!!
J