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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Airborne on January 09, 2017, 08:51:00 AM
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50 years old and started dipping when I was 15~16.
So this is the start of my 7th day... Been a "Ninja Dipper" at home for YEARS and pretty much dipped all day long at work, for what ever reason being in a professional office it is acceptable to dip however if you smoke you have to walk for 5 minutes to get to the designated smoking area.
This is the second time I am quitting, first time was back in the nineties for insurance purposes. Lasted several years then one night I had the brilliant idea to just buy a can so I could stay up late and drive... That was pretty stupid, the demon was back and twice as strong.
Not sure what sparked the quitting, I really like to dip (or at least that is what I tell myself). Nothing like a big dip after a meal, my mouth just watered...
Any rate, didn't think I would actually make it through the weekend but I did. Guess I got an advantage over most that nobody around me dips so it's not in my face. Craving is still there, but I noticed the fog is beginning to clear somewhat and my new fix is now coffee.
Hope y'all can hang in there, it does get better bit by bit, nothing drastic just bit by bit.
Mike
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Are you going to join the site and post roll call? We hate nicotine and it's many forms here. Also, you only stopped before, quit is forever. It's the little details like this you need to learn to be a quitter. I "stopped" dipping 30-40 times over 17 years, I have only quit once. Big difference.
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Are you going to join the site and post roll call? We hate nicotine and it's many forms here. Also, you only stopped before, quit is forever. It's the little details like this you need to learn to be a quitter. I "stopped" dipping 30-40 times over 17 years, I have only quit once. Big difference.
Like my man ^^^^ said... You need to join us.
Post Roll... And do it every day.
Go here, this is your new group.
topic/30106725/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30106725/)
If you need help.
Send me PM from your inbox.
Welcome aboard Airborne!
Rawls 783
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Yep trying to figure out the roll call thing. But right now I need to go home and put my dog down. Really sucks and I don't need this right now.
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Yep trying to figure out the roll call thing. But right now I need to go home and put my dog down. Really sucks and I don't need this right now.
I am truly sorry to hear that. Hang tough, life never stops.
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Yep trying to figure out the roll call thing. But right now I need to go home and put my dog down. Really sucks and I don't need this right now.
I am truly sorry to hear that. Hang tough, life never stops.
One problem + nicotine = 2 Problems
Lots of instructions and videos with posting roll.
You can do this.
Rawls 784
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Day 8. Putting your dog down really sucks (obviously). Several years ago I made the decision to do that task myself, had a dog put down at the vet and thought how much that fucking sucked only to get a big fat bill on the way out. Shit I'm burying the dog so what's the difference I'll take care of it myself. She was in a great deal of pain and didn't want to move from the spot she had been laying all morning in the backyard. Pretty sad considering she ruled the backyard for the past 10 years. Squirrels feared her name.
This really sucks, my mouth is watering for a dip. Just had a burger and fries and just wanted that sweet hit of Mint SKOAL... I switched to mint about 5 years ago from wintergreen, when I would go to the deer lease I'd pick up a can of several brands and flavors just because I could dip in the open. I'd run through 5 cans over the weekend. Good times I guess, probably had terrible breath ;-). I've read some post on here about the boredom being an initiator in starting back up. I can see that. Been keeping myself busy and home fiddling with this and that, I had a few beers after the whole dog thing. That made the craving worse. Luckily just before I happen to stop using I had cleared out all the cans in the house. Usually had one hid in the bathroom, one in my coat breast pocket, one in my reloading bench, and of course a can or two in the truck. They all got used up and on Jan 2nd I was sitting in a deer stand and sucked all the flavor out of a Mint pouch at around 07:30. It was kind of pathetic, it was one of those re-cycle jobs where I knew I was running low so I started putting the used pouches in an empty can. We used to do that back in the day on field exercises, when you ran out all together a "buddy" might let you bum a dip out of his re-cycle can... And you'd take it, full of his spit and all. Not my finer moments in life, at lease we all had our shots.
Anyway I don't believe I'll be bumming any re-cycle dip of anyone today, just sitting here thinking about how ridiculous it is to have let the SKOAL demon take over my life.
Peace
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Airborne, thank you for your service.
Congrats on the first week down. You are over the physical stuff and now it's a mental battle from here on. Reading your intro raises a big red flag for me, though. It sounds like you are still romanticizing nicotine. Can you tell me what it was about nicotine that you think you enjoyed? Don't say "the buzz" because we both know you weren't getting that buzz after 35 years of using. So what was it?
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KingNothing... No Buzz at all, that went away a long time ago didn't that last about a week into it? I don't know if was just a habit or what, but I like dipping. The last time I stopped using from about '97~'02 I thought about it quite a lot. I missed the shit in my mouth and the flavor the spitting... Right now I'm thinking how great it would be to have a dip in my mouth, a beer in my left hand and a spit can in my right. That sounds like a good time to me. With all that said what I don't like is the addictive part of it. I really didn't enjoy being out on the deer lease and being more worrying about when my dip was running out than hunting. So it pissed me off. If it wasn't addictive I'd be doing it right now.
So there you go, the addictive portion of dipping is what pissed me off enough to stop using. Not all the other stuff involved, I quite enjoyed all that stuff. Dentist said all my gums and stuff are ok, I did spend a bit of time cleaning gums and washing out with Listerine, flossed too daily. So I guess that paid off.
Peace
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Start of Day 10 (11JAN2016)- Not too bad this morning, rolled out of bed took shower, dressed, and ate. Started to drive into to work and that was the first thought of dipping, got to work and "Roll Called". Looked like a shit load of drama was happening on that roll call sheet. I'd say that is an improvement over the previous days, actually a big improvement. I am in the middle of a bunch of stress and for some strange reason I am a bit at ease with it all, hopefully it is not the calm before the storm. I've been staying away from alcohol, seems like I'll drink a few beers and the dip craving goes from a manageable level to feelings of day 1. When I say staying away I mean getting drunk, not having a beer, lets not get carried away.
I appreciate all the stories people post, helps keep things in perspective and I'm not alone.
Peace
PS: I've been real tired lately, at night I just crash hard. That seems to be a perk, I usually am up for hours and have a terrible time falling asleep. Guessing that nicotine has been really fucking with my sleep over the years.
Oh yea, I've been eating everything in sight. No problem, I can go on a diet in a month.
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KingNothing... No Buzz at all, that went away a long time ago didn't that last about a week into it? I don't know if was just a habit or what, but I like dipping. The last time I stopped using from about '97~'02 I thought about it quite a lot. I missed the shit in my mouth and the flavor the spitting... Right now I'm thinking how great it would be to have a dip in my mouth, a beer in my left hand and a spit can in my right. That sounds like a good time to me. With all that said what I don't like is the addictive part of it. I really didn't enjoy being out on the deer lease and being more worrying about when my dip was running out than hunting. So it pissed me off. If it wasn't addictive I'd be doing it right now.
So there you go, the addictive portion of dipping is what pissed me off enough to stop using. Not all the other stuff involved, I quite enjoyed all that stuff. Dentist said all my gums and stuff are ok, I did spend a bit of time cleaning gums and washing out with Listerine, flossed too daily. So I guess that paid off.
Peace
Air, I appreciate the honesty. First off, I'm glad the addiction (aka slavery) is what drove you to quit. That's what got me here too, and it is great motivation. Second, the reason I am asking you to dig a little deeper into why you "liked" to dip, was because you have to tackle that part head-on. If you allow the romantic aspects of dipping to creep in, it will start to consume all the good reasons you mentioned for quitting. It's not going to happen overnight, but to give yourself the best chance at this, you have to learn to hate nicotine and what it did to you. A spitter in one hand and a beer in the other is a "comfort zone" for you that you allowed to be entrenched into your brain for years. Nicotine slowly started to control the synapses in your brain and before you knew it, nicotine had you believing it was a sort of friend to you. It's bullshit. It's Big Tobacco's #1 trick to keeping you on a leash. If they can keep you believing that dip was your friend and will be there for you when no one else will, they win. They'll steal your hard-earned money to watch you kill yourself. One day you'll back on this intro and realize how deeply you were controlled by nicotine and it will disgust you to your core. The good news is, you will have piled up hundreds of days quit by that time and you will have put that part of you in the past. One day at a time (ODAAT) will get it done.
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Mid-Day 10 (11JAN2016)-So I'm getting laid off soon and have plenty of time to reflect and read quite a bit in the Roll Call for the April Group (no work to be done and I look busy) :-), I'm in a good place and am blessed so don't fret about the getting laid off shit. I plan on putting in some of that Pergo stuff while I'm laying around the house. Shit, better have something to do or I'll go crazy. Quite a bit of drama in the Roll Call Forum, and after reading and contemplating what was being said it seems to me that the last time I stopped using dip if there had been a group like this (not much was on the internet in those days) where you would check in daily and say I'm not using this shit today, I believe I would have never started up again. I think daily reminder is a necessity. What I can tell you is I was off the stuff for a couple of years, yea years and in one moment of stupidity it led to another 15 year stent. Times are approximate, don't bust my balls if I said 13 years in one post and 15 in another.
Some cat fell off the wagon, lied, what the fuck ever and is being called a "TROLL". What the fuck does that mean? You young feller's need to understand that a few old fucks are in here and trying to make heads or tails out your post is quite challenging. For now I have time to kind of dig around and tie the pieces together and come with a story. So perhaps a vocabulary section would be nice. I can't tell you how many times I have to ask all the young people at work what is that? what does this mean? what is that emoti's? and fucking abbreviations are endless.
I got side tracked there. So this is the second time I am really giving it an effort to stop using dip. I actually find it easier this time with this forum. I'll sit here and read stuff about guys going through some really tough symptoms and cravings and kind of think I've got easier than that guy so I have no excuse to start up.
The point in this rant is the time I stopped using I never lost the craving for a dip, don't get me wrong it wasn't everyday and constant and I wasn't in a fog. I'd be sitting around a fire and just hanging out and it would hit, and it was real and powerful. Just a pinch...
So who ever put this thing together thanks. I believe it will make this time easier and longer lasting, I believe the whole roll call thing will be essential in maintenance.
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Mid-Day 10 (11JAN2016)-So I'm getting laid off soon and have plenty of time to reflect and read quite a bit in the Roll Call for the April Group (no work to be done and I look busy) :-), I'm in a good place and am blessed so don't fret about the getting laid off shit. I plan on putting in some of that Pergo stuff while I'm laying around the house. Shit, better have something to do or I'll go crazy. Quite a bit of drama in the Roll Call Forum, and after reading and contemplating what was being said it seems to me that the last time I stopped using dip if there had been a group like this (not much was on the internet in those days) where you would check in daily and say I'm not using this shit today, I believe I would have never started up again. I think daily reminder is a necessity. What I can tell you is I was off the stuff for a couple of years, yea years and in one moment of stupidity it led to another 15 year stent. Times are approximate, don't bust my balls if I said 13 years in one post and 15 in another.
Some cat fell off the wagon, lied, what the fuck ever and is being called a "TROLL". What the fuck does that mean? You young feller's need to understand that a few old fucks are in here and trying to make heads or tails out your post is quite challenging. For now I have time to kind of dig around and tie the pieces together and come with a story. So perhaps a vocabulary section would be nice. I can't tell you how many times I have to ask all the young people at work what is that? what does this mean? what is that emoti's? and fucking abbreviations are endless.
I got side tracked there. So this is the second time I am really giving it an effort to stop using dip. I actually find it easier this time with this forum. I'll sit here and read stuff about guys going through some really tough symptoms and cravings and kind of think I've got easier than that guy so I have no excuse to start up.
The point in this rant is the time I stopped using I never lost the craving for a dip, don't get me wrong it wasn't everyday and constant and I wasn't in a fog. I'd be sitting around a fire and just hanging out and it would hit, and it was real and powerful. Just a pinch...
So who ever put this thing together thanks. I believe it will make this time easier and longer lasting, I believe the whole roll call thing will be essential in maintenance.
I was stopped for 5years. Did not know about KTC. One night on drive home I bought a tin. That was a couple years ago. I'm quit now because I make a promise to the guys in my Dec '15 group and all the other
friends I have made here. I would not let them down. That's why people take offense to those who cave. They are pissed that someone would promise one thing and do another, particularly given the tools KTC has in place.
I still get craves. I'm an addict and will always have them. But as long as I promise on roll first thing in the AM, the day is in the bag. I will stick with what works for me and for 495 days I have posted roll in the AM
or asked for help getting on roll if no internet coverage. Glad you are quit Airborne
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Mid-Day 10 (11JAN2016)-So I'm getting laid off soon and have plenty of time to reflect and read quite a bit in the Roll Call for the April Group (no work to be done and I look busy) :-), I'm in a good place and am blessed so don't fret about the getting laid off shit. I plan on putting in some of that Pergo stuff while I'm laying around the house. Shit, better have something to do or I'll go crazy. Quite a bit of drama in the Roll Call Forum, and after reading and contemplating what was being said it seems to me that the last time I stopped using dip if there had been a group like this (not much was on the internet in those days) where you would check in daily and say I'm not using this shit today, I believe I would have never started up again. I think daily reminder is a necessity. What I can tell you is I was off the stuff for a couple of years, yea years and in one moment of stupidity it led to another 15 year stent. Times are approximate, don't bust my balls if I said 13 years in one post and 15 in another.
Some cat fell off the wagon, lied, what the fuck ever and is being called a "TROLL". What the fuck does that mean? You young feller's need to understand that a few old fucks are in here and trying to make heads or tails out your post is quite challenging. For now I have time to kind of dig around and tie the pieces together and come with a story. So perhaps a vocabulary section would be nice. I can't tell you how many times I have to ask all the young people at work what is that? what does this mean? what is that emoti's? and fucking abbreviations are endless.
I got side tracked there. So this is the second time I am really giving it an effort to stop using dip. I actually find it easier this time with this forum. I'll sit here and read stuff about guys going through some really tough symptoms and cravings and kind of think I've got easier than that guy so I have no excuse to start up.
The point in this rant is the time I stopped using I never lost the craving for a dip, don't get me wrong it wasn't everyday and constant and I wasn't in a fog. I'd be sitting around a fire and just hanging out and it would hit, and it was real and powerful. Just a pinch...
So who ever put this thing together thanks. I believe it will make this time easier and longer lasting, I believe the whole roll call thing will be essential in maintenance.
The word Thumblewort mean "Man with Huge Donger" to anyone under 30. Tru dat homie!
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Airborne,
I've been reading through your intro, relating to just about everything you have said. I'm a few years younger, and maybe a little more computer savy, but other than that...I'm right there with you. I've been trying the fake snuff (Smokey Mountain) it has been helping a bunch. If you happen to text, send me a message on PM we can exchange numbers. It's good to have someone there to hold you to your word, shoot a text to for encouragement, etc. Hang in there, We can do this!
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Mid-Day 10 (11JAN2016)-So I'm getting laid off soon and have plenty of time to reflect and read quite a bit in the Roll Call for the April Group (no work to be done and I look busy) :-), I'm in a good place and am blessed so don't fret about the getting laid off shit. I plan on putting in some of that Pergo stuff while I'm laying around the house. Shit, better have something to do or I'll go crazy. Quite a bit of drama in the Roll Call Forum, and after reading and contemplating what was being said it seems to me that the last time I stopped using dip if there had been a group like this (not much was on the internet in those days) where you would check in daily and say I'm not using this shit today, I believe I would have never started up again. I think daily reminder is a necessity. What I can tell you is I was off the stuff for a couple of years, yea years and in one moment of stupidity it led to another 15 year stent. Times are approximate, don't bust my balls if I said 13 years in one post and 15 in another.
Some cat fell off the wagon, lied, what the fuck ever and is being called a "TROLL". What the fuck does that mean? You young feller's need to understand that a few old fucks are in here and trying to make heads or tails out your post is quite challenging. For now I have time to kind of dig around and tie the pieces together and come with a story. So perhaps a vocabulary section would be nice. I can't tell you how many times I have to ask all the young people at work what is that? what does this mean? what is that emoti's? and fucking abbreviations are endless.
I got side tracked there. So this is the second time I am really giving it an effort to stop using dip. I actually find it easier this time with this forum. I'll sit here and read stuff about guys going through some really tough symptoms and cravings and kind of think I've got easier than that guy so I have no excuse to start up.
The point in this rant is the time I stopped using I never lost the craving for a dip, don't get me wrong it wasn't everyday and constant and I wasn't in a fog. I'd be sitting around a fire and just hanging out and it would hit, and it was real and powerful. Just a pinch...
So who ever put this thing together thanks. I believe it will make this time easier and longer lasting, I believe the whole roll call thing will be essential in maintenance.
The word Thumblewort mean "Man with Huge Donger" to anyone under 30. Tru dat homie!
Really what he is referring to is his Dongle. To anyone over thirty that is known as " a small device " to connect a computer to. NOTE Small
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Airborne,
I've been reading through your intro, relating to just about everything you have said. I'm a few years younger, and maybe a little more computer savy, but other than that...I'm right there with you. I've been trying the fake snuff (Smokey Mountain) it has been helping a bunch. If you happen to text, send me a message on PM we can exchange numbers. It's good to have someone there to hold you to your word, shoot a text to for encouragement, etc. Hang in there, We can do this!
This ^^^. I don't tell you to exchange numbers with your fellow quitters willy-nilly. I know the resistance, especially in the geriatric crowd. However, these guys WILL have your back. If you give your number to a quitter, you best believe that quitter is going to blow your ass up if you don't post roll. THAT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY KTC IS PREMISED UPON. Whether you're the guy doing the blowing up or you're getting blown up, you're feeling the effects of KTC and that's why this place works. You will not fall through the cracks if you make the effort to be a part of this thing.
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What the fuck does "This ^^^" mean? I swear I think my writing is fucking clear, and there goes some fucking 20 year old typing shit that is meaningless to me. Yea sent digits, daughter taught me how to block fuckers.
So right now I feel like a total duche bag, I'm feeling all sorry for myself cuz I want to suck all the mint flavor out of a can of dip right now while my wife is having total stress gettng final plans made for her mom's funeral tomorrow, well the rosary is tomorrow. Funeral next day. We're catholic and that's the way we roll.
Fucking Big Tobaco.
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What the fuck does "This ^^^" mean? I swear I think my writing is fucking clear, and there goes some fucking 20 year old typing shit that is meaningless to me. Yea sent digits, daughter taught me how to block fuckers.
So right now I feel like a total duche bag, I'm feeling all sorry for myself cuz I want to suck all the mint flavor out of a can of dip right now while my wife is having total stress gettng final plans made for her mom's funeral tomorrow, well the rosary is tomorrow. Funeral next day. We're catholic and that's the way we roll.
Fucking Big Tobaco.
^^^^ is simply arrows pointing to whatever is above it, in that case, a post.
If I typed "what he said ^^^^!!!", I was referring to the guy above me. Thanks for your service. Glad to see you posted up and what you said about Walkers dog dying was good tough love.
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What the fuck does "This ^^^" mean? I swear I think my writing is fucking clear, and there goes some fucking 20 year old typing shit that is meaningless to me. Yea sent digits, daughter taught me how to block fuckers.
So right now I feel like a total duche bag, I'm feeling all sorry for myself cuz I want to suck all the mint flavor out of a can of dip right now while my wife is having total stress gettng final plans made for her mom's funeral tomorrow, well the rosary is tomorrow. Funeral next day. We're catholic and that's the way we roll.
Fucking Big Tobaco.
Agreed on Big Tobacco. Also, I'll circle the beads for your mother in law. Bottom line, this place is here for you. Use it. It's worth it, i promise.
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What the fuck does "This ^^^" mean? I swear I think my writing is fucking clear, and there goes some fucking 20 year old typing shit that is meaningless to me. Yea sent digits, daughter taught me how to block fuckers.
So right now I feel like a total duche bag, I'm feeling all sorry for myself cuz I want to suck all the mint flavor out of a can of dip right now while my wife is having total stress gettng final plans made for her mom's funeral tomorrow, well the rosary is tomorrow. Funeral next day. We're catholic and that's the way we roll.
Fucking Big Tobaco.
Agreed on Big Tobacco. Also, I'll circle the beads for your mother in law. Bottom line, this place is here for you. Use it. It's worth it, i promise.
I'm a bead rattler and I do a circle for your family as well.
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Well I went into a convienence store for the first time since Jan 2nd and managed to walk out without a can! I do roll call and it really helps, who wants to be a douche bag who can't keep his word for a day!
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Well I went into a convienence store for the first time since Jan 2nd and managed to walk out without a can! I do roll call and it really helps, who wants to be a douche bag who can't keep his word for a day!
Post roll early and keep your word. Great formula for success
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Well I went into a convienence store for the first time since Jan 2nd and managed to walk out without a can! I do roll call and it really helps, who wants to be a douche bag who can't keep his word for a day!
Post roll early and keep your word. Great formula for success
Congrats AB, these victories will pile up in no time. Every little victory is more distance between you and nicotine.
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Start of Day 16 - Made it through a second weekend with no dip. Not too tough since nobody I was around has any dip, that kind of makes it a bit easier. Can't seem to sit still anymore, used to have a dip and just chill out watching TV. I have had a hard time to sit and watch anything longer than 30 minutes. Typical???
Man I am eating everything in site! Chomp chomp chomp... Not sure if things just task better or what. So is there a sister website KTF.org (Kill The Food)? I'm going to be needing that one pretty soon ;-)
Guns have never been so clean.
Peace
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Start of Day 16 - Made it through a second weekend with no dip. Not too tough since nobody I was around has any dip, that kind of makes it a bit easier. Can't seem to sit still anymore, used to have a dip and just chill out watching TV. I have had a hard time to sit and watch anything longer than 30 minutes. Typical???
Man I am eating everything in site! Chomp chomp chomp... Not sure if things just task better or what. So is there a sister website KTF.org (Kill The Food)? I'm going to be needing that one pretty soon ;-)
Guns have never been so clean.
Peace
Finally! An army guy can clean a weapon!
You're right though - just sitting around without a dip is tough. It's those little things like that I hadn't planned on being a tough trigger but they are.
I'm also going through some fog today. It's been tough. But I quit.
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Start of Day 17 ¡V Taking my lunch break at work and going through some of the post. I¡¦ve noticed that when I initially stopped using I was fatigued and slept. Now I¡¦m getting a bit more anxious at night and am not sleeping as well. I also noticed I¡¦m getting joint pains, not sure if they are connected, pain none the less. The drive to have a dip is much more in control, it does have a psychological advantage that I said I would be a douche bag today and dip.
I tell you what my wife¡¦s cooking is really getting good since I quit. I¡¦m eating the shit out of it, you know when you¡¦re contemplating that last beer? And you say yea I can drink it, then five minutes later your trying to purge it back out. That¡¦s what I¡¦m doing with food. Yum yum chomp chomp. ƒº
Still struggling with Superman getting killed at the end of Batman vs Superman¡K. Why would you have Ben Afflicted live? I just don¡¦t get it.
So I¡¦ve been cleaning one of my barrels for a couple of days. Is there something better than Hoppe¡¦s BR#9 Solvent to get copper out? There is no telling how many rounds my dad put through that gun, but damn. Every patch is blue/green as shit. Just surprised how much is coming off.
I'm really having a hard time staying focused today. I hear a lot of voices....
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Hey Bro I just finished off a 1/2 chicken 'm1' , got me thinking about you so I dropped by your page. Thanks for ruining Batman vs Superman for me , is that free on Netflix yet?
Whens the Pergo project starting? I once worked for a company that was "probably laying me off next month" for like 5 years.
Keep up the good work and QLF, glad to be quit with you in April 'Cheers'
BTW I heard people who hear voices shouldn't handle guns. 'winker'
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Start of Day 17 ¡V Taking my lunch break at work and going through some of the post. I¡¦ve noticed that when I initially stopped using I was fatigued and slept. Now I¡¦m getting a bit more anxious at night and am not sleeping as well. I also noticed I¡¦m getting joint pains, not sure if they are connected, pain none the less. The drive to have a dip is much more in control, it does have a psychological advantage that I said I would be a douche bag today and dip.
I tell you what my wife¡¦s cooking is really getting good since I quit. I¡¦m eating the shit out of it, you know when you¡¦re contemplating that last beer? And you say yea I can drink it, then five minutes later your trying to purge it back out. That¡¦s what I¡¦m doing with food. Yum yum chomp chomp. ƒº
Still struggling with Superman getting killed at the end of Batman vs Superman¡K. Why would you have Ben Afflicted live? I just don¡¦t get it.
So I¡¦ve been cleaning one of my barrels for a couple of days. Is there something better than Hoppe¡¦s BR#9 Solvent to get copper out? There is no telling how many rounds my dad put through that gun, but damn. Every patch is blue/green as shit. Just surprised how much is coming off.
I'm really having a hard time staying focused today. I hear a lot of voices....
Brother, sounds like you are hitting that second fog. It happens to all of us. You'll make it out of it stronger than ever. Sounds like you are doing an amazing job getting on here and making your promise to your brothers. That's the only thing that has gotten me through. As a veteran you know that teamwork and small unit tactics are the backbone of any combat action. You are in combat with that Nic-bitch, utilize your team to close with and destroy the enemy.
As far as solvents, I prefer BreakFree CLP. It's always done me good.
AATW,
SAM
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Hey Bro I just finished off a 1/2 chicken 'm1' , got me thinking about you so I dropped by your page. Thanks for ruining Batman vs Superman for me , is that free on Netflix yet?
Whens the Pergo project starting? I once worked for a company that was "probably laying me off next month" for like 5 years.
Keep up the good work and QLF, glad to be quit with you in April 'Cheers'
BTW I heard people who hear voices shouldn't handle guns. 'winker'
Pergo project starts this Friday! Got all the kit, jut need to move all the stuff out of the room (that starts on Thursday). Should prove to be quite the "Goat Fuck" by the time we are done. Have to paint and all. Good times.
Sorry about the B vs S, thought I was always the last to see a movie, I think it's on HBO.
Don't worry about the voices, I've always heard them.
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It will get better Airborne. You have no idea how great things will get. I could try to explain it but I suspect you wouldn't believe me.
It is worth it.
You can do this.
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It will get better Airborne. You have no idea how great things will get. I could try to explain it but I suspect you wouldn't believe me.
It is worth it.
You can do this.
So it's true... your dick does get bigger. Nice :-)
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It will get better Airborne. You have no idea how great things will get. I could try to explain it but I suspect you wouldn't believe me.
It is worth it.
You can do this.
So it's true... your dick does get bigger. Nice :-)
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So I'm working on Day 23 right now. Had a dental appointment and that went real smooth, the lady who has cleaned my teeth the last few times asked how often I floss (I'm a big time flosser). Apparently they can tell when you floss. She also busted my balls last year at this time for High Blood Pressure, went to doctor and BAM on that shit since August. Man that stuff really make you thirsty. Just and FYI there is a diuretic in the med, really kicks your ass when you're drinking beer (that's two diuretics when your drinking, if you didn't know alcohol is a diuretic)... You're pissing like a MF!
I think I went off a little hard on some dude in the April Quit group today, kind of feel bad about it, but then again no.
Feeling pretty good about not dipping for the last three weeks. Not quite a note worthy benchmark, but I'm pretty happy about it.
I'm having a real hard time sleeping. Real hard time. Not like I'm laying there thinking about a dip, just laying there thinking WTF! Why can't I sleep. So tomorrow I'm going to cut out caffeine, well maybe lets not get crazy about all this quitting stuff. Might need to test the waters on that, might start listening to the voices if I quit that too. Just cut down to no more past 10:00am, not sure about what time zone yet.
Overall I have a slight jittery feeling, that I know a dip will cure in a heartbeat. I'm not even contemplating that, just archiving the feeling. Just a yearning, beckoning in the background throughout the day. Really makes you wonder what kind of shit the chemist at big tobacco put in those cans.
"As far as solvents, I prefer BreakFree CLP. It's always done me good."
Sam, I haven't used that stuff since Nov 3rd 1989 ;-)
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So I'm working on Day 23 right now. Had a dental appointment and that went real smooth, the lady who has cleaned my teeth the last few times asked how often I floss (I'm a big time flosser). Apparently they can tell when you floss. She also busted my balls last year at this time for High Blood Pressure, went to doctor and BAM on that shit since August. Man that stuff really make you thirsty. Just and FYI there is a diuretic in the med, really kicks your ass when you're drinking beer (that's two diuretics when your drinking, if you didn't know alcohol is a diuretic)... You're pissing like a MF!
I think I went off a little hard on some dude in the April Quit group today, kind of feel bad about it, but then again no.
Feeling pretty good about not dipping for the last three weeks. Not quite a note worthy benchmark, but I'm pretty happy about it.
I'm having a real hard time sleeping. Real hard time. Not like I'm laying there thinking about a dip, just laying there thinking WTF! Why can't I sleep. So tomorrow I'm going to cut out caffeine, well maybe lets not get crazy about all this quitting stuff. Might need to test the waters on that, might start listening to the voices if I quit that too. Just cut down to no more past 10:00am, not sure about what time zone yet.
Overall I have a slight jittery feeling, that I know a dip will cure in a heartbeat. I'm not even contemplating that, just archiving the feeling. Just a yearning, beckoning in the background throughout the day. Really makes you wonder what kind of shit the chemist at big tobacco put in those cans.
"As far as solvents, I prefer BreakFree CLP. It's always done me good."
Sam, I haven't used that stuff since Nov 3rd 1989 ;-)
Holy hell. I forgot about the "jitters". They were the worst. Climbing out of my skin type shit.
Remember how it feels.
It gets better?
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Airborne...
I can definitely remember the jitters and anxiety. Remember that nicotine causes caffeine to leave your system twice as fast. So you might want to cut back on caffeine a bit and it might help with the jitters. I only drink caff free Dt. Coke now and I drink my coffee half-caff. No caff after noonif I can help it. It helps.
Frankly, though, the sleeplessness and jitters are real common as your brain and body are healing from the poison you fed it all those years and you will probably have to deal with it a bit longer. Hang tight, things do get better. Between cutting out nic and reducing caff, I sleep better now than I ever did.
I wish I could tell you the achey joints get better, but mine still hurt. Not sure why. Nic does act as a pain killer so that may be it. In my case it could be the extra lbs I put on.
Anyway, keep quitting one day at a time. You are doing great.
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So right now I'm on day 31 and am having some crazy cravings. Not really sure what I'm craving though. Started that Paleo Diet in conjunction while quitting nicotine, not sure if that's such a great idea but all I've been doing is eating for the past month. My work pants are really getting tight! Am I craving bread or dip, bread or dip, bread or dip, bread or dip, bread or dip, bread or dip I don't know. Just want something now! A fucking Jack in the Box taco... man that sounds good!
I've been holding off on those non-nicotine things like back-off, but today am considering going down and picking up a can of that stuff.
Today fucking sucks!
And to top it off I was reading a bunch of stuff how dip is not that bad for you... WTF? Can we get some sort of consensus on this bull shit? If it's bad fine, if it's not WTF are all the labels on the can for? Makes you wonder when they put all that shit on back in the eighties if there was some sort of deal with tobacco where they (tobacco) switched to growing corn and the government agreed to buy it. Not sure of the time frame from the US basically going to a corn starch diet from pure sugar. You had better believe corn is not on the Palio diet... ahhhhhhhhhhh!
I'm sure some of you guys remember the labels being added to the cans of snuff. Shit that was basically when there was just SKOAL and COPE, both in cardboard cans. In those small towns they would keep them in the fridge so the dip would be ice cold when you bought. Fuck that sounds good right about now.
I'd rummage through the trash right now if there was some in there. Just saying.
Some ladies just came into the kitchen with left overs! Yea Baby! Brisket and Chicken... Feeling satisfied...
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Since I was going crazy with cravings I had two pieces of chicken, some brisket and sausage. Cravings are gone, like 25 minutes ago.
So guys and gals load up on some BBQ and lets get this quit on!
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Very long weekend and am starting day 36. Drank waaayy too much on Saturday, but luckily there was nobody there who dipped. That does make it a bit easier when nobody around dips. The fog and restlessness are easing up a bit and I am starting to see the beginning of clarity. Total clarity is not there yet it's about 75%, still wondering around a bit in my mind. I think the shoulder pain I am experiencing has nothing to do with the nicotine withdrawal, but some sort of damage done in the past. One thing I have noticed is my appetite has started to subside a bit, that's a good thing because I'm pretty sure I put on several pounds. From what I have read on this site it would appear there may be a storm brewing at a last ditch attempt of nicotine to regain control before I hit 3 months. Nice to be 1/3 of the way to the first milestone.