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Title: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on September 02, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
Friend called Wed, Aug 31. He has multiple stomach tumors. Might live 6 months. Maybe even 5 years. Not likely. He's 4 years younger than me. He chewed for 25 years. I've chewed for 38 years. Spit out my last dip at 1 pm Aug 31 while talking to my friend. I just don't "need" it anymore. I want to live. I pray my friend will too.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Scowick65 on September 02, 2011, 12:12:00 PM
This is why you belong here. NOW.

Quickly, you need to read this: http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp)
That is our mission and how we do it.

Come over and post roll here: index.php?showtopic=5162 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5162)

You are here for a reason. To quit and spread this story.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Wild_Bill on September 02, 2011, 12:17:00 PM
NDY,
Welcome to the quit. Yes, you'll be wanting to spend a lot of time here. Post roll. It will save your life.

Glad to be quit with you today.

whsii - 21
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Radman on September 02, 2011, 12:39:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
This is why you belong here. NOW.

Quickly, you need to read this: http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp)
That is our mission and how we do it.

Come over and post roll here: index.php?showtopic=5162 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5162)

You are here for a reason. To quit and spread this story.
Agreed. Sorry to hear about you friend. Truly terrible, but these are the kind of stories that need to be told. But first, find your way around here. Learn how this place works. Drink the Kool-Aid. First things first: stay quit. Get some contacts so you can reach out to a brother (or sister) when the hard times hit. PM me if I can help any way at all.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: LLCope on September 02, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
NDY,

We are here to support you. You can do this ONE DAY at a time. I am truly sorry about your friend.

Lean on this site--- I quit 128 days ago and it has made all the difference.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Leather Apron on September 02, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
Yo man, I'm a whopping day 3 now so, I'm in no way whatsoever qualified to give advice, but I've pretty much lived on here reading all kinds of support from guys and gals to guys and gals they've in most cases never met. Having this as a tool is a huge advantage. Use what you've got. You can do it. We'll help.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: whacko on September 02, 2011, 01:37:00 PM
Welcome! Sorry about your friend. It is why you need to be here! I am on day 22 and this site has saved my life! Highly recommend the live chat for your soon coming sleepless nights! Can't sugar coat it any other way my friend! The live chat got me through many nights!

Proud to be quit with you!
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Gump on September 02, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Friend called Wed, Aug 31. He has multiple stomach tumors. Might live 6 months. Maybe even 5 years. Not likely. He's 4 years younger than me. He chewed for 25 years. I've chewed for 38 years. Spit out my last dip at 1 pm Aug 31 while talking to my friend. I just don't "need" it anymore. I want to live. I pray my friend will too.
Real sorry about your friend man. But telling his story is going to save someone else's life, so keep telling it.

Nobody else mentioned it yet, so I will.

You need to COMMIT to your QUIT.

The way you do that is you go to the December 2011 Quit Group, and you post roll, which is your promise not to use nicotine in any form today.

It is just for today. 24 hours. We'll deal with tomorrow tomorrow.

But for today, I want you to promise all of these addicts that you're not going to use nicotine, by posting roll.

And then we'll hold you accountable, and expect you to do the same for us.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: magnum9 on September 02, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
Welcome notdeadyet!

BTW, you don't have to die because of this crap. I believe your right, it is now time to get this done. I quit with you today.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Scowick65 on September 02, 2011, 08:32:00 PM
Welcome. Thanks for joining our ranks against big tobacco. PM me if you need anything. You can count on me.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on September 29, 2011, 09:02:00 AM
Stopper: A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t. A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly. A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict. A stopper feels sorry for themself. A stopper thinks life is not fair. A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop. A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter: A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life. A quitterÂ’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity. A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word. A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again. A quitter is a free man or woman.
'party2'
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: whacko on September 29, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
NICE! 'worship' 'worship'
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Scowick65 on September 29, 2011, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Stopper: A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t. A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly. A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict. A stopper feels sorry for themself. A stopper thinks life is not fair. A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop. A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter: A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life. A quitterÂ’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity. A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word. A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again. A quitter is a free man or woman.
'party2'
Goo stuff
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: kbdavear on September 29, 2011, 10:32:00 AM
That Gave me an Erection....Very Nice
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on October 06, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
I’ve seen quite a few posts talking about depression and “the funk” that can hit off and on. Thought I would tell what I’ve gone through the first 37 days because I do not think my quit is unique.

First, some background. I am not a very emotional person. I do not have a lot of anxiety outside of what Nicotine induced in my pre-quit life. I have a life full of stresses like everyone else but normally do not seem to dwell on them. I am an engineer so I donÂ’t think the artsy side of my brain works very well.

The first week of my quit was rage. Pure and simple anger  hate. Had to focus it on the dip and KTC so I wouldnÂ’t kill anyone. Around day 10 I got a huge freedom high. It felt weird to be so artificially happy, but I sure liked it. I came back down to “normal me” then days ~16-23 I was extra peppy again. I was thinking this quitting shit is just awesome.

During the last 2 weeks I have had 3 or 4 weird days of depression. It comes when something triggers a huge crave that I cannot satisfy. I am depressed because I have eliminated dip as an option in my life but my brain is telling me I need a dip. I start slipping into that self-pity mode of “This is not fair. Why do I have to suffer, craving a dip. Why won’t it just go away.” Then rational, engineer me steps in, “It’s because you put that crap in your mouth for 38 years, Dumbass!”

When the depression hits, I go for a short run, lift weights, anything to stay busy. I go to the KTC site and read what everyone else is going through, especially the day 1-7 guys  gals. Then I realize that the current depression is nothing compared to what it was like just a few weeks ago. This makes me feel better because I know that it will continue to get better. I spent my entire life thinking about dip virtually every few minutes, but now I can spend several hours without a thought of dip!

I do not have to “man up” to get through the depression. I just have to hang on and try to distract myself. I just have to believe that it will get better. The KTC site is a great way to reaffirm that. When I worry that I might not be strong enough, I remember that I posted roll and I know I can be strong enough at least until tomorrow morning.

If you are depressed, you are not alone, but it will get better. Tons better.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: lo sprk on October 06, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
Well said NDY.

While I do think every quit is unique, I admit that maybe that's the artsy side in me, I don't think the symptoms of quitting nictone are unique. Distraction has been a key aspect for me. Even if I were to have a dip it's not like the problems or stresses go away magical. You still gotta deal with them.

Glad to have someone like you in the December quit group to remind me I don't have to be on the pity train, that's how i felt yesterday.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Radman on October 07, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
I have no artsy side. I'm an engineer as well. ME per education, but work in telecom. Go figure. Hang in there, man.... it willl all level out eventually. Timeframe may vary, but somewhere past HOF it will all come together. I had some great days before then, but don't be fooled... it was still up and down. The good periods will get longer and the funks will fade. During that first 150 days, I had times when I was an emotional basket case, and that is very very far from my normal personality. One minute I'd be totally pissed about something and the next I'd be a babbling sentimental idiot. My wife (a reliable source of reality checks throughout my quit) thought it was quite amusing, and it got to the point that I occassionally just laughed at myself. It's all good now, though. Embrace the process and let the artsy folks worry about the unique butterflies.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: imwhip on October 07, 2011, 04:55:00 PM
NotDead - you are spot on ...

from what I have read, my physical withdraw symptoms have been light - no mouth sores, no pains or cramps, headaches etc. Craves have been relatively light too. However the emotional symptoms have been crazy particularly around week 2 and 3. Emotional swings from anger and rage to depression and isolation. I've had to keep my distance from my wife and kids - not wanting to explode on them. The forum has helped considerably - just reading the posts helped my blood pressure return to normal adn settle the rage. The fire inside has quieted over the past week. Glad to know that worst is behind me at this point - motivation for remaining quit. Thanks for sharing - glad to be quit with you and the rest of December.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: AgLawyer on October 08, 2011, 05:44:00 AM
I've read some of your posts and you seem very confident and motivated in your quit - well done - stay that way. Nicely done.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on October 08, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Stopper: A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t. A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly. A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict. A stopper feels sorry for themself. A stopper thinks life is not fair. A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop. A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter: A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life. A quitterÂ’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity. A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word. A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again. A quitter is a free man or woman.
'party2'
Dear Cavers,

If you are just stopping, please go away. If you truly are committed to quit, then PM, email, post, chat room, text, or call, but you do not have permission to dip. This site is for quitters who support each other in their quit. Misery loves company, as long as they stay Nic free. Keep your fuckin word - it's all you got here.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Ready on October 08, 2011, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Stopper: A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t. A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly. A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict. A stopper feels sorry for themself. A stopper thinks life is not fair. A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop. A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter: A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life. A quitterÂ’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity. A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word. A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again. A quitter is a free man or woman.
'party2'
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: bubblehed668 on October 08, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Stopper:  A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t.  A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly.  A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict.  A stopper feels sorry for themself.  A stopper thinks life is not fair.  A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop.  A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter:  A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life.  A quitter’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity.  A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word.  A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again.  A quitter is a free man or woman.
'party2'
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
'oh yeah'
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on October 20, 2011, 11:17:00 AM
Day 51 – No more regrets

I wish I had quit again right away after failing 20 years ago, but I gave up on myself too soon. I wish I had the KTC site and had read the experiences of quitters. I wish my buddy had quit before he got stomach cancer. I wish I realized all I had to do was make being quit the top priority in my life, above everything else.

Too many "I wishes" for me - I want you to realize that you don't have to say "I wish" ever again. I sure the heck won't. It gets so much easier when you convince yourself that no matter what, dipping is not an option - your only choice is figuring out how to deal with the urges. I recently had 24+ hrs straight of craves but today is another day of glorious freedom for me! It just keeps getting easier, something that only time quit can accomplish. Today I am Nic-free and regret-free. I guess forgiving yourself for your stupidity is an important part of being quit.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: LLCope on October 20, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
I wish I realized all I had to do was make being quit the top priority in my life, above everything else.
That statement right there is the key. Posting roll means this: I WILL MAKE MY QUIT THE TOP PRIORITY.

That is the key----that is why you will make it!

Proud to be quit with you!
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on June 25, 2012, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Notdeadyet - day 3 - no nic today, tomorrow, forever  ever amen
No need to sweat tomorrow or forever. You just focus on keeping your word for today and we'll deal with tomorrow when that sum bitch gets here. Today is a mighty fine day to be quit, so I'm pulling up a chair and quitting with NDY, who's decided he'd like some of the freedom we're offering in here.

To all of you who've just joined today, make it your mission to read all you can here this weekend. It will keep your mind off the cravings and educate you for future battles.

If I can do this, you can do this. Good to be quit with you. Yell if you need anything.
297 days later this is still sound advice from Gspot. Enjoying my freedom every day. If you think about it, only today really matters. Enjoy it without withdrawals.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Scowick65 on June 25, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Notdeadyet - day 3 - no nic today, tomorrow, forever  ever amen
No need to sweat tomorrow or forever. You just focus on keeping your word for today and we'll deal with tomorrow when that sum bitch gets here. Today is a mighty fine day to be quit, so I'm pulling up a chair and quitting with NDY, who's decided he'd like some of the freedom we're offering in here.

To all of you who've just joined today, make it your mission to read all you can here this weekend. It will keep your mind off the cravings and educate you for future battles.

If I can do this, you can do this. Good to be quit with you. Yell if you need anything.
297 days later this is still sound advice from Gspot. Enjoying my freedom every day. If you think about it, only today really matters. Enjoy it without withdrawals.
Great job on your journey.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: 30yraddict on June 25, 2012, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Notdeadyet - day 3 - no nic today, tomorrow, forever  ever amen
No need to sweat tomorrow or forever. You just focus on keeping your word for today and we'll deal with tomorrow when that sum bitch gets here. Today is a mighty fine day to be quit, so I'm pulling up a chair and quitting with NDY, who's decided he'd like some of the freedom we're offering in here.

To all of you who've just joined today, make it your mission to read all you can here this weekend. It will keep your mind off the cravings and educate you for future battles.

If I can do this, you can do this. Good to be quit with you. Yell if you need anything.
297 days later this is still sound advice from Gspot. Enjoying my freedom every day. If you think about it, only today really matters. Enjoy it without withdrawals.
Great job on your journey.
Here, Here! 'clap'
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Nolaq on June 25, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Notdeadyet - day 3 - no nic today, tomorrow, forever  ever amen
No need to sweat tomorrow or forever. You just focus on keeping your word for today and we'll deal with tomorrow when that sum bitch gets here. Today is a mighty fine day to be quit, so I'm pulling up a chair and quitting with NDY, who's decided he'd like some of the freedom we're offering in here.

To all of you who've just joined today, make it your mission to read all you can here this weekend. It will keep your mind off the cravings and educate you for future battles.

If I can do this, you can do this. Good to be quit with you. Yell if you need anything.
297 days later this is still sound advice from Gspot. Enjoying my freedom every day. If you think about it, only today really matters. Enjoy it without withdrawals.
Great job on your journey.
Here, Here! 'clap'
Grats bro. Freedom rocks!
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on November 09, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
It's been a long time since I've posted in my introduction thread. 437 days ago I quit because a good friend and colleague was just diagnosed with stomach cancer. He gutted Grizzly. He is now 45 years old. He won't see 46. He probably won't see Thanksgiving. I have spared ya'll the sickening details of his treatment. I just got word yesterday that after a year plus of incredible torture they are throwing in the towel. Several operations. Several rounds of chemo. Radiation that felt like someone was blowtorching your guts from the inside out. Experimental crap. No feelings left in fingers or toes. He started out weighing 250 lbs and is down to 140 lbs. Hasn't eaten solid food for a long, long time.

For those of you reading this and thinking about drumming up enough courage to "try" to quit - do you really want to take the chance? Ya, you probably won't get cancer. I sure pray you don't win the cancer lotto like my buddy. Try explaining that one to your spouse and kids - "I am selfish and took a gamble and lost so you won't have a husband/wife/Daddy/Mommy anymore". Just grow a pair and dump that shit. Quit paying the tobacco industry to slowy kill you. Dumbass.

Sad thing is my buddy's cancer has saved my life. Even if I would never have gotten cancer. Freedom from nicotine addiction is a life saver. It took his life for me to stop being a dumbass. Never again. Not once.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: kana on November 09, 2012, 10:51:00 AM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
It's been a long time since I've posted in my introduction thread. 437 days ago I quit because a good friend and colleague was just diagnosed with stomach cancer. He gutted Grizzly. He is now 45 years old. He won't see 46. He probably won't see Thanksgiving. I have spared ya'll the sickening details of his treatment. I just got word yesterday that after a year plus of incredible torture they are throwing in the towel. Several operations. Several rounds of chemo. Radiation that felt like someone was blowtorching your guts from the inside out. Experimental crap. No feelings left in fingers or toes. He started out weighing 250 lbs and is down to 140 lbs. Hasn't eaten solid food for a long, long time.

For those of you reading this and thinking about drumming up enough courage to "try" to quit - do you really want to take the chance? Ya, you probably won't get cancer. I sure pray you don't win the cancer lotto like my buddy. Try explaining that one to your spouse and kids - "I am selfish and took a gamble and lost so you won't have a husband/wife/Daddy/Mommy anymore". Just grow a pair and dump that shit. Quit paying the tobacco industry to slowy kill you. Dumbass.

Sad thing is my buddy's cancer has saved my life. Even if I would never have gotten cancer. Freedom from nicotine addiction is a life saver. It took his life for me to stop being a dumbass. Never again. Not once.
Sorry for your friend bro..I'm the same age, so it really hits home. I quit with you and your buddy.. Never again..
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on November 25, 2012, 06:56:00 PM
Paul passed away yesterday. What a horrible way to die. So damn sad. So damn real. Tobacco is a killer.

I never believed I could quit dip until Paul told me about his stomach cancer. I refuse to ever be such a selfish, spineless, dumbass again.

Thank you Paul for saving my life. Who knows, maybe you saved a few others too.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: SirDerek on November 25, 2012, 07:06:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Paul passed away yesterday. What a horrible way to die. So damn sad. So damn real. Tobacco is a killer.

I never believed I could quit dip until Paul told me about his stomach cancer. I refuse to ever be such a selfish, spineless, dumbass again.

Thank you Paul for saving my life. Who knows, maybe you saved a few others too.
My condolences to his family, and to you and yours.

Appreciate you telling us about him and involving the rest of us in the hope that we may also find that silver lining that can help the rest of us in our quit as well.

Be strong my friend.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: dchogs on November 26, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Paul passed away yesterday. What a horrible way to die.  So damn sad.  So damn real.  Tobacco is a killer.

I never believed I could quit dip until Paul told me about his stomach cancer.  I refuse to ever be such a selfish, spineless, dumbass again. 

Thank you Paul for saving my life.  Who knows, maybe you saved a few others too.
My condolences to his family, and to you and yours.

Appreciate you telling us about him and involving the rest of us in the hope that we may also find that silver lining that can help the rest of us in our quit as well.

Be strong my friend.
sorry for your loss, NDY.

keep telling his story, and don't spare the details of his treatment. people on the fence need to hear their potential future with dip in their lives. take some time, really write up the story, and see if chewie and company will put it here for others to see. it might be cathartic for you, and i'm sure it would benefit others.

just an idea.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on May 08, 2013, 04:13:00 PM
I listened to a Chamber of Commerce youth leadership speech today at lunch. The speaker started off with a joke: “When I was in high school I told my Mom that I do not know what I want to be in life. My Mom told me that I will become whatever I think about all day and night. So I figured I would either become a girl or a can of beer!”

Sad thing is when I was in high school I would’ve added “or a can of Cope” to the punch line. But not today. After 617 days quit I will only become pussy or a beer.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: srans on May 08, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
I listened to a Chamber of Commerce youth leadership speech today at lunch. The speaker started off with a joke: “When I was in high school I told my Mom that I do not know what I want to be in life. My Mom told me that I will become whatever I think about all day and night. So I figured I would either become a girl or a can of beer!”

Sad thing is when I was in high school I would’ve added “or a can of Cope” to the punch line. But not today. After 617 days quit I will only become pussy or a beer.
I needed that today. Thanks.. 'crackup'
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on May 22, 2013, 01:22:00 PM
“This is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you.”

That’s what my Dad said right before he took the belt to my rear end. I didn’t believe him back then, but now I think he was sincere. He whooped my butt because he loved me. He did it so I would learn. He did it so I wouldn’t end up in prison. He did it so I would know there are consequences for breaking the rules. He did not coddle me in my transgressions and say it’s okay you are trying to be good but “slipped up”. He said if you break the rules you get your ass whooped. And I learned very quickly he meant it.

I have a friend who runs an oilfield service company. He had seven fatalities at his company in three years. All of them car wrecks. All of them were not wearing their seat belts (a company rule). He gathered up all his employees for the umpteenth time and told them they would be fired if they did not wear their seat belt. He then told his division manager to catch the next guy leaving their yard without his seat belt on and fire him on the spot. The next guy was his top employee, the operations manager. As instructed, the operations manager was fired on the spot for not wearing his seat belt.

He has not had a single fatality in the five years since then. Pretty sad that people wonÂ’t wear their seat belt to save their damn life but will to save their job.

In my company I went around to all of our field locations and told everyone that wearing a seat belt was just another piece of PPE (personal protective equipment, like a hardhat) and if they did not wear it they would be fired. A few months later an employee got in an accident and was cited for not wearing his seat belt. I fired him that day. I really, really did not want to fire him. Made me feel like shit.

I have not had a single fatality amongst the 3 dozen or so car accidents my guys have had since. Every single one was wearing their seat belt.

The rules on this site are pretty simple. Don’t use nicotine. Keep your word. Don’t use multiple aliases. If you break the rules, don’t be surprised at the consequences. There is no accountability without consequences. For those of you who want to award ribbons for “trying”, please remember there are many, many lives we are trying to save, not just the one that broke the rules. You do not help anyone if you do not hold them accountable.
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Mcbeevee on May 22, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Notdeadyet,
Your quitting experience is definitely not unique. Everyone goes thru the funk, headaches, naseau, depression, longing, and self-pity. It is definitely a minefield that each of us walk thru but we all saw the "warning" sign before we entered.
The best thing I can tell you about not being unique is that you will eventualy become free of the addiction and life takes a turn for the better. We all get there sooner or later but I cannot tell you how good it is when you get there. I am celebrating 706 days of Quit and wondering why it took me 30 years of slavery to a can to figure this out. Never again! Honor your word daily and own your Quit!!!!
Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Notdeadyet on June 06, 2013, 12:27:00 AM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
“This is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you.”

That’s what my Dad said right before he took the belt to my rear end. I didn’t believe him back then, but now I think he was sincere. He whooped my butt because he loved me. He did it so I would learn. He did it so I wouldn’t end up in prison. He did it so I would know there are consequences for breaking the rules. He did not coddle me in my transgressions and say it’s okay you are trying to be good but “slipped up”. He said if you break the rules you get your ass whooped. And I learned very quickly he meant it.

I have a friend who runs an oilfield service company. He had seven fatalities at his company in three years. All of them car wrecks. All of them were not wearing their seat belts (a company rule). He gathered up all his employees for the umpteenth time and told them they would be fired if they did not wear their seat belt. He then told his division manager to catch the next guy leaving their yard without his seat belt on and fire him on the spot. The next guy was his top employee, the operations manager. As instructed, the operations manager was fired on the spot for not wearing his seat belt.

He has not had a single fatality in the five years since then. Pretty sad that people wonÂ’t wear their seat belt to save their damn life but will to save their job.

In my company I went around to all of our field locations and told everyone that wearing a seat belt was just another piece of PPE (personal protective equipment, like a hardhat) and if they did not wear it they would be fired. A few months later an employee got in an accident and was cited for not wearing his seat belt. I fired him that day. I really, really did not want to fire him. Made me feel like shit.

I have not had a single fatality amongst the 3 dozen or so car accidents my guys have had since. Every single one was wearing their seat belt.

The rules on this site are pretty simple. Don’t use nicotine. Keep your word. Don’t use multiple aliases. If you break the rules, don’t be surprised at the consequences. There is no accountability without consequences. For those of you who want to award ribbons for “trying”, please remember there are many, many lives we are trying to save, not just the one that broke the rules. You do not help anyone if you do not hold them accountable.
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Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: cbird65 on February 11, 2014, 11:01:00 AM
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Stopper:  A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t.  A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly.  A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict.  A stopper feels sorry for themself.  A stopper thinks life is not fair.  A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop.  A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter:  A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life.  A quitter’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity.  A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word.  A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again.  A quitter is a free man or woman.
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Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on February 12, 2014, 06:36:00 AM
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Stopper:  A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t.  A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly.  A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict.  A stopper feels sorry for themself.  A stopper thinks life is not fair.  A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop.  A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter:  A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life.  A quitter’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity.  A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word.  A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again.  A quitter is a free man or woman.
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Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: T-Cell on February 12, 2014, 10:02:00 AM
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Stopper:  A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t.  A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly.  A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict.  A stopper feels sorry for themself.  A stopper thinks life is not fair.  A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop.  A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter:  A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life.  A quitter’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity.  A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word.  A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again.  A quitter is a free man or woman.
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Title: Re: Last chance
Post by: brettlees on February 12, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
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Stopper:  A stopper uses words like hope  try  want  canÂ’t.  A stopper thinks he or she is a special butterfly.  A stopper really does not understand or believe that they are an addict.  A stopper feels sorry for themself.  A stopper thinks life is not fair.  A stopper knows deep down inside that they will dip again even before they “attempt” to stop.  A stopper is a slave. 'cry'

Quitter:  A quitter eliminates the option of dipping from their life.  A quitter’s heart is filled with hate and disgust for nicotine and Big Tobacco; there is no room for self-pity.  A quitter is willing to suffer through every second for the next 24 hours because he or she has too much integrity to break their word.  A quitter knows that they are an addict and will do everything in their power to avoid ever putting that cancer-causing poison in their mouth again.  A quitter is a free man or woman.
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Perfect. Should be posted in every newbie group.
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