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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Pyro3256 on May 28, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
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so I came here on the recommendation of a friend who quit and has stayed that way. I have tried several times over the years and never made it this long. im @ 3 weeks in and I have not found a new way to "deal" with "life". I need help with that.
I wanted to quit for my family and all who tell me I should. personal I didn't want to quit, atleast not whole heartedly. I miss it! im past the "I need it" but since starting this quit, either my stress level has gone to new hieghts or I just can deal with it with out my "helper".
im NOT giving up beer!!!!! so that helps. I don't plan on alcohol as the next addiction, just to get my off the ledge now and then. but that doesn't help me at work which is one of the biggest stressors I have.
I have a lot on my plate and keep thinking "this was not a good time to quit". so am I missing something? is it just me? or did the world fall apart for everyone else too?
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so I came here on the recommendation of a friend who quit and has stayed that way. I have tried several times over the years and never made it this long. im @ 3 weeks in and I have not found a new way to "deal" with "life". I need help with that.
I wanted to quit for my family and all who tell me I should. personal I didn't want to quit, atleast not whole heartedly. I miss it! im past the "I need it" but since starting this quit, either my stress level has gone to new hieghts or I just can deal with it with out my "helper".
im NOT giving up beer!!!!! so that helps. I don't plan on alcohol as the next addiction, just to get my off the ledge now and then. but that doesn't help me at work which is one of the biggest stressors I have.
I have a lot on my plate and keep thinking "this was not a good time to quit". so am I missing something? is it just me? or did the world fall apart for everyone else too?
It's all bullshit. It's all a lie. It's all weak justifications.
The addiction is talking to you. It saying you need dip to work, talk to your boys or family, to cook on the grill, to drive your car, etc. none if it is true though dude. There is a saying on here and it goes like this-----1 problem + dip =2 problems
Get involved here. Read the forums and the intros. Most importantly you should read about and post roll. It is the cornerstone of our page. We take this shit serious and we do it together. There will be more posts after mine with some great info. Follow the lead.
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so I came here on the recommendation of a friend who quit and has stayed that way. I have tried several times over the years and never made it this long. im @ 3 weeks in and I have not found a new way to "deal" with "life". I need help with that.
I wanted to quit for my family and all who tell me I should. personal I didn't want to quit, atleast not whole heartedly. I miss it! im past the "I need it" but since starting this quit, either my stress level has gone to new hieghts or I just can deal with it with out my "helper".
im NOT giving up beer!!!!! so that helps. I don't plan on alcohol as the next addiction, just to get my off the ledge now and then. but that doesn't help me at work which is one of the biggest stressors I have.
I have a lot on my plate and keep thinking "this was not a good time to quit". so am I missing something? is it just me? or did the world fall apart for everyone else too?
It's all bullshit. It's all a lie. It's all weak justifications.
The addiction is talking to you. It saying you need dip to work, talk to your boys or family, to cook on the grill, to drive your car, etc. none if it is true though dude. There is a saying on here and it goes like this-----1 problem + dip =2 problems
Get involved here. Read the forums and the intros. Most importantly you should read about and post roll. It is the cornerstone of our page. We take this shit serious and we do it together. There will be more posts after mine with some great info. Follow the lead.
Listen, the fact that you're asking those specific questions means your a smart dude. The problem is, you're counting on emotional logic. When it comes to this type of logic, nicotine will always win.
Your on the right path. 3 weeks? That's hard. Don't fuck this up. Don't fool yourself into thinking "I did 3 weeks before. I can do it again. Just 1 dip." That's emotional logic.
Wanna show yourself how smart you are? Use cold logic. Hey mechanical on this shot. Step outside of yourself and take a look. Imagine yourself 6 months from now... or 3 years. You will regret caving. Look at the quotes in my signature. Words to live and die by.
Find the "introduction" for Minny. Go to page one and read at least the first 4 pages. Everything will make sense. Your emotional logic (we've all been suckers) will be replaced with cold logic.
Get smart, pyro. Don't fuck this up.
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so I came here on the recommendation of a friend who quit and has stayed that way. I have tried several times over the years and never made it this long. im @ 3 weeks in and I have not found a new way to "deal" with "life". I need help with that.
I wanted to quit for my family and all who tell me I should. personal I didn't want to quit, atleast not whole heartedly. I miss it! im past the "I need it" but since starting this quit, either my stress level has gone to new hieghts or I just can deal with it with out my "helper".
im NOT giving up beer!!!!! so that helps. I don't plan on alcohol as the next addiction, just to get my off the ledge now and then. but that doesn't help me at work which is one of the biggest stressors I have.
I have a lot on my plate and keep thinking "this was not a good time to quit". so am I missing something? is it just me? or did the world fall apart for everyone else too?
It's all bullshit. It's all a lie. It's all weak justifications.
The addiction is talking to you. It saying you need dip to work, talk to your boys or family, to cook on the grill, to drive your car, etc. none if it is true though dude. There is a saying on here and it goes like this-----1 problem + dip =2 problems
Get involved here. Read the forums and the intros. Most importantly you should read about and post roll. It is the cornerstone of our page. We take this shit serious and we do it together. There will be more posts after mine with some great info. Follow the lead.
1. you need to quit for you!
2. stop romancing the bitch, you do not miss her, i mean seriously you miss a poisonous addictive weed that steals your self respect?
3. "helper?" see the previous post by sixer...problem + nic= 2 problems.
4. alcohol is a depressant, and lowers inhibitions - traditionally its the biggest reason for caves so rethink you beer stance.
5. nic does not relieve stress, it only fills a void it creates. the relief you feel is the nic bitch feeling good about your lack of self respect.
6. a lot on your plate, eff that bs everybody is busy, everybody has issues, we quit so can you!
7. there is only 1 good time to quit TODAY! then repeat it tomorrow!
8. everybody has their world effed up by the quit you are no different. it does get better we promise!
to quit once and for all:
1. post roll every day first thing, no exceptions.
2. read everything on the site hof speeches, words of wisdom intros...learn the enemy knowledge is quit power.
3. get numbers build a support network of fellow quitters.
4. GO ALL THE FUCK IN! this is literally life and death! Do not half ass your quit!
5. Pass it on reach out to the next guy!
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My quit freight trained me. Was not ready for it at all, and I didn't know what to expect. My world fell apart too man. I came here at week four. It gets better and it is worth it. I had a baby, a few weeks ago, I almost died at work a week later ... Everyone has a lot on there plate. I can't remember the last time I said "man I don't have shit on my plate." I used that bullshit excuse just like everyone else here for years. Someone on here said all you have to do is quit today. You don't have anything better to do. Quit on brother
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Ok, I'll tell ya what you want to hear (not the truth)! I started using about 7 or 8 years before you were born and am a hard core addict. But, I just threw my can away and never looked back. It was a breeze, never missed it, never thought about using again. You are one fucked up addict you must need nicotine to survive the stress of life. I really think after reading your intro you should throw in the towel and keep on using. Forget everyone that wants you to quit. They just don't understand the help nicotine is to satisfy the craving you get when life sucks. Again for me I haven't thought of caving for 788 days!
3 weeks is your test to prove to everyone that your not a addict and that you are in control. I did that a number of times over 40+ years. Until you hit bottom and quit for yourself your fooling yourself and all those around you.
Now the truth, quitting is the hardest thing I have ever done. I had times that I broke down and cried, I needed my fix so bad I tried every rationalization I could think of but I remained quit! Why? I realized I was powerless to deal with my addiction and I wanted freedom. Posting roll and acquainting yourself with other quitters going through the same thing will give you the eye opening experience you need to begin quitting.
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You, sir, are an addict. I know because I was one too. All your thinking is the same shit we all faced. This place, if you follow the program, will help you quit. It's the only thing that has ever worked for thousands of us. You have to follow the program though, and you have to really want to do it for you.
Want some help deciding if you want to do it for you? Pay attention to what people say to you. And read up on the addiction. It's terrible, sneaky and evil how it works on your brain. Check out the resources here on the site, and other sources. You've been duped into sleepwalking through life to keep buying more and it's all perfectly legal. Should piss you off once you see the light. I hope now is your time- you've already come a long hard road being clean this long- we all know because we've all been there. It show that you can be strong enough to do this if you want. It gets so much better it's amazing- but you gotta earn it. Let us all help you!
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I had more shit happen to me during my first month of quit. I was also thinking what the hell is going on? The best thing I learned was to tell Nic, "Not today Bitch" and walk away. Hang in there but you gotta make it about you.
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Pyro, I just read this thread, and I want you to slowly read the entire thing again. You have some serious bad ass quitters throwing the quit gospel at you. You made it 3 weeks solo? Brother, you have the worse part done already. Join us on this site, learn how to post roll, and stop quitting the most addictive drug know to man by yourself. There isn't anything you are going through that one of these fine quitters hasn't been through already, so get on board and quit with us.
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Pyro, you are way ahead of the game it seems, but the game has a means of catching up to you fast. Remain vigilant. I cannot speak for everyone's quit, but I can share a quick experience about alcohol as it relates to my quit. The first couple of weeks in, I did decide (unknowingly) that I was going to switch the nic bitch for alcohol. If I was off work, I was drinking. Anything to make me forget how I was feeling. It took me bringing my wife to tears to realize what a drunk ass clown I was. I had not drank like that since I was in college. Luckily, I realized what I was doing, and started exercising. Now, I still like my cold beer, but I definitely don't let it get the best of me.
Moral of that story is, nicotine has a way of getting at you one way or another. Once you quit her, it can be a slippery slope. Every day is a challenge to be better than yesterday. I have no doubt that you can do it. Stay strong, stay responsible. Quitting with you today.
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A quick run down of some of the things I have personally had on my plate during my quit:
1) 1st born basically not sleeping because of reflux. Took 1.5 years to finally get him normalized.
2) birth of my 2nd.
3) 4 week plus hospitalizations of my 2nd for RAD. Couldnt eliminate CF until he was nearly 6 months old. Had to watch them put an IV into his head at 6 months old because he was so dehydrated from not being able to drink because of his breathing.
4) Working well over 70 hour weeks multiple times
5) Father being hospitalized in ICU 4 or 5 times (COPD)
6) Being forced into a POA / Medical POA / Executor for my father as he became more and more invalid.
7) Father dying.
8) Normal other shit called life.
I am not trying to say I am anything special; there are others on this site who have dealt with far more life events than me. Point is, life is gonna happen no matter what. You control whether it is with a monkey on your back or not. Yes, it will be hard and you will need to make some adjustments. Trust me when I say the small investment and struggles you are dealing with now will be paid back in spades the next time you stare a stressful situation in the face and deal with it without the need for some poison in your face. You will be thankful you spent the time and effort now instead of going through withdrawal while undergoing extensive jaw/throat/tongue surgeries and chemo.
The payback on investments in yourself is priceless.
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Crick - 4 years ago today I found KTC. After 29 years of putting the poison into my body, I finally found the tool which helped me quit. It's not easy, but KTC works. Make your promise everyday and read every moment you get.
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I wrote this a while back and it may be helpful:
Dealing With Craves The Concept Of Forever
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... f-forever/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/dealing-with-craves-the-concept-of-forever/)
Bottom line... hang in there. Things get better. I too was one that really LOVED dipping. Or I thought I did. As you get more time under your belt, you too will start to realize that you really didn't enjoy it... you just thought you did. It gets better - I promise. I wouldn't be here otherwise.
Chewie
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I wanted to quit for my family and all who tell me I should. personal I didn't want to quit, atleast not whole heartedly. I miss it!
I hate seeing you throw 3 weeks away but I'll repeat all I see is a start of a good "stop".
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Time to take back some dignity my friend. Your slap out right now. Start reading, knowledge is power.
No more crying like a little girl. Its time my friend. Your owned by a filthy disgusting poison that only does one thing well. It TAKES until there is nothing left. It's time you start taking. Today is yours,,, feel it, taste it and smell it.
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Time to take back some dignity my friend. Your slap out right now. Start reading, knowledge is power.
No more crying like a little girl. Its time my friend. Your owned by a filthy disgusting poison that only does one thing well. It TAKES until there is nothing left. It's time you start taking. Today is yours,,, feel it, taste it and smell it.
I ran out of time last post. This is additional rans knowledge and i hope it don't get wasted on some panzy caver.
Your three weeks in my friend. Three weeks from now you will feel so different. Shake yourself out of it. Your just about to turn the corner. I felt like crap where you are. It's just a speed bump.
You give in and you will regret it. This i promise. Quit with you today.
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Time to take back some dignity my friend. Your slap out right now. Start reading, knowledge is power.
No more crying like a little girl. Its time my friend. Your owned by a filthy disgusting poison that only does one thing well. It TAKES until there is nothing left. It's time you start taking. Today is yours,,, feel it, taste it and smell it.
I ran out of time last post. This is additional rans knowledge and i hope it don't get wasted on some panzy caver.
Your three weeks in my friend. Three weeks from now you will feel so different. Shake yourself out of it. Your just about to turn the corner. I felt like crap where you are. It's just a speed bump.
You give in and you will regret it. This i promise. Quit with you today.
You gotta learn to hate it for what it is. A cancerous weed that has nothing positive about it. Before KTC I never thought about what it was really doing to me and my family. I was being selfish when I was dipping. Selfish because of how it will shorten my life and drain my bank account all because I was a big pussy who didn't know how to quit.
The ball is in your court. Are you man enough to quit for today? Tomorrow we do it all over again.
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I just read through this, and holy crap do you have a ton of quit heavy hitters laying out the truth for you man! Read and learn. So much great knowledge right on this thread. Read everything on KTC and educate yourself. PM me if you need...
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Pyro - This sites up to 19.5k members. I guarantee you there are those that were in the same place as you the first three weeks. Everyone's quit is a touch different but we all share the same challenge. Quit. Each day. I see you're posting roll and that's all it takes. It gets easier.