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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Cornfed1980 on July 06, 2014, 12:46:00 AM
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Quit before I went to bed last night (July 4) for my 35th birthday..
After I first started, I kept the can around for fun times like races and cook-out. Then I started doing it alone. I liked the country boy aspect of it when I moved to the city. But really I just loved the nicotine juice in my mouth, throat and belly.
If it wasn't unhealthy, I'd never quit because dipping is great. But it is unhealthy. I think it is the main cause of my chronic heartburn and elevated pulse (I work out a lot and should have a nice low resting pulse). I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
I started Chantix 10 days ago and tapered down to last night. I think it really helped me get to today. It's off-label but for me, having dipped at least a can a day as recently as 12 days ago, I needed it.
Marcus.
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If it wasn't unhealthy, I'd never quit because dipping is great.
This sentence proves one thing to me...
You're not ready to quit yet. Not even close.
It still owns you.
Turn it around man.
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Quit before I went to bed last night (July 4) for my 35th birthday..
After I first started, I kept the can around for fun times like races and cook-out. Then I started doing it alone. I liked the country boy aspect of it when I moved to the city. But really I just loved the nicotine juice in my mouth, throat and belly.
If it wasn't unhealthy, I'd never quit because dipping is great. But it is unhealthy. I think it is the main cause of my chronic heartburn and elevated pulse (I work out a lot and should have a nice low resting pulse). I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
I started Chantix 10 days ago and tapered down to last night. I think it really helped me get to today. It's off-label but for me, having dipped at least a can a day as recently as 12 days ago, I needed it.
Marcus.
I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
Listen Cornhole, you pretty much already fucked that up. 1st off, Chantix? Do you know what it says on the label of that shit? Right under the Warning label, look for it. It says, "this product is for pussies who can't be real men and quit cold turkey" 2nd. You really chewed a whole can a day? Wow, this might not be the right place for you, that's some real hard core chewin' right there. 'no' 3rd. AJ is absolutely right. "I'd never quit because dipping is great." What the fuck kind of statement is that? If you come here with that kind of mentality you have failed already, do not waste anymore of our time. You should go back to the country, find your nuts and come back here when you have the mindset that "dipping is not great"
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Quit before I went to bed last night (July 4) for my 35th birthday..
After I first started, I kept the can around for fun times like races and cook-out. Then I started doing it alone. I liked the country boy aspect of it when I moved to the city. But really I just loved the nicotine juice in my mouth, throat and belly.
If it wasn't unhealthy, I'd never quit because dipping is great. But it is unhealthy. I think it is the main cause of my chronic heartburn and elevated pulse (I work out a lot and should have a nice low resting pulse). I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
I started Chantix 10 days ago and tapered down to last night. I think it really helped me get to today. It's off-label but for me, having dipped at least a can a day as recently as 12 days ago, I needed it.
Marcus.
I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
Listen Cornhole, you pretty much already fucked that up. 1st off, Chantix? Do you know what it says on the label of that shit? Right under the Warning label, look for it. It says, "this product is for pussies who can't be real men and quit cold turkey" 2nd. You really chewed a whole can a day? Wow, this might not be the right place for you, that's some real hard core chewin' right there. 'no' 3rd. AJ is absolutely right. "I'd never quit because dipping is great." What the fuck kind of statement is that? If you come here with that kind of mentality you have failed already, do not waste anymore of our time. You should go back to the country, find your nuts and come back here when you have the mindset that "dipping is not great"
25 years wasted
45 thousand dollars thrown away
High blood pressure, high cholesterol
Sitting alone in parking lots chewing while my family was home without me
Midnight frantic excuses to leave the house
Stained teeth
Terror every time I had a new sore in my mouth
Lying and sneaking around
This was my life. It was not great. It is now.
Worktowin - day 560
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Quit before I went to bed last night (July 4) for my 35th birthday..
After I first started, I kept the can around for fun times like races and cook-out. Then I started doing it alone. I liked the country boy aspect of it when I moved to the city. But really I just loved the nicotine juice in my mouth, throat and belly.
If it wasn't unhealthy, I'd never quit because dipping is great. But it is unhealthy. I think it is the main cause of my chronic heartburn and elevated pulse (I work out a lot and should have a nice low resting pulse). I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
I started Chantix 10 days ago and tapered down to last night. I think it really helped me get to today. It's off-label but for me, having dipped at least a can a day as recently as 12 days ago, I needed it.
Marcus.
I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
Listen Cornhole, you pretty much already fucked that up. 1st off, Chantix? Do you know what it says on the label of that shit? Right under the Warning label, look for it. It says, "this product is for pussies who can't be real men and quit cold turkey" 2nd. You really chewed a whole can a day? Wow, this might not be the right place for you, that's some real hard core chewin' right there. 'no' 3rd. AJ is absolutely right. "I'd never quit because dipping is great." What the fuck kind of statement is that? If you come here with that kind of mentality you have failed already, do not waste anymore of our time. You should go back to the country, find your nuts and come back here when you have the mindset that "dipping is not great"
25 years wasted
45 thousand dollars thrown away
High blood pressure, high cholesterol
Sitting alone in parking lots chewing while my family was home without me
Midnight frantic excuses to leave the house
Stained teeth
Terror every time I had a new sore in my mouth
Lying and sneaking around
This was my life. It was not great. It is now.
Worktowin - day 560
I hate the poison. I hate it this morning. I'll hate it at lunch. I'll hate it tonight after supper. I enjoy hating the poison so much i'll wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. Join me my friend!
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Quit before I went to bed last night (July 4) for my 35th birthday..
After I first started, I kept the can around for fun times like races and cook-out. Then I started doing it alone. I liked the country boy aspect of it when I moved to the city. But really I just loved the nicotine juice in my mouth, throat and belly.
If it wasn't unhealthy, I'd never quit because dipping is great. But it is unhealthy. I think it is the main cause of my chronic heartburn and elevated pulse (I work out a lot and should have a nice low resting pulse). I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
I started Chantix 10 days ago and tapered down to last night. I think it really helped me get to today. It's off-label but for me, having dipped at least a can a day as recently as 12 days ago, I needed it.
Marcus.
I'm here for the support and to encourage others.
Listen Cornhole, you pretty much already fucked that up. 1st off, Chantix? Do you know what it says on the label of that shit? Right under the Warning label, look for it. It says, "this product is for pussies who can't be real men and quit cold turkey" 2nd. You really chewed a whole can a day? Wow, this might not be the right place for you, that's some real hard core chewin' right there. 'no' 3rd. AJ is absolutely right. "I'd never quit because dipping is great." What the fuck kind of statement is that? If you come here with that kind of mentality you have failed already, do not waste anymore of our time. You should go back to the country, find your nuts and come back here when you have the mindset that "dipping is not great"
25 years wasted
45 thousand dollars thrown away
High blood pressure, high cholesterol
Sitting alone in parking lots chewing while my family was home without me
Midnight frantic excuses to leave the house
Stained teeth
Terror every time I had a new sore in my mouth
Lying and sneaking around
This was my life. It was not great. It is now.
Worktowin - day 560
I hate the poison. I hate it this morning. I'll hate it at lunch. I'll hate it tonight after supper. I enjoy hating the poison so much i'll wake up tomorrow and start over hating it. Join me my friend!
I think a lot of people have used chantix to quit. I won't disparage that at all. I do not think Grady should have either. The fact is you quit nicotine on the 4th. That is great.
The problem is, from your words, you seem to be lamenting the fact that you've quit. If that is the case it is not good. Here we educate ourselves on the truth regarding tobacco/nicotine. The truth will dissipate these feelings that your tobacco usage gave you "good times". The truth is it tastes like dog shit. The truth us it kills you. The truth is it's extremely addictive. The truth is it's completely repulsive to other people.
I am assuming you've posted roll in your quit group. I'm assuming you've honored your word. If so congrats on a great move for yourself. Failure is not an option and no excuse is acceptable here. I suggest you dig in to the resources here and read non stop to educate yourself. If you don't embrace the KTC formula your chance for failure is high and you'll receive no sympathy. If you do embrace Ktc you are guaranteed to succeed and you will receive more support than you can imagine.
I quit with you today.
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OK well so much for this group. Thanks for all the hateful responses guys. I've been quit over 36 hours, posted roll twice, but this group clearly ain't for me. I cut back from almost a can to less than 3 dips a day two weeks before completely quitting. Due to my legal of addiction, my doctor recommended Chantix and this group. I'll let him know this group is only for perfect angels who aren't allowed to share their real thought.
Marcus
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OK well so much for this group. Thanks for all the hateful responses guys. I've been quit over 36 hours, posted roll twice, but this group clearly ain't for me. I cut back from almost a can to less than 3 dips a day two weeks before completely quitting. Due to my legal of addiction, my doctor recommended Chantix and this group. I'll let him know this group is only for perfect angels who aren't allowed to share their real thought.
Marcus
Marcus I'm an old pussy and 2 years ago I used chantix and I got a reaming by a mod. Some people are total asses. If chantix works for you use it. I will say I did have the fucked up dreams, and I was already suicidal. A lot of quitters come and get pissed at comments by others. That's part of the rage that accompanies early withdrawal and quitting. The tough love is something that also makes some others deal with their quitting. Your comments about loving dip is bullshit; you love satisfying your addiction. As you succeed day by day you will begin to realize that much of the comments about quitting that you've been given are accurate. For some the hatred realization grows with your quit. I quit with you!
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OK well so much for this group. Thanks for all the hateful responses guys. I've been quit over 36 hours, posted roll twice, but this group clearly ain't for me. I cut back from almost a can to less than 3 dips a day two weeks before completely quitting. Due to my legal of addiction, my doctor recommended Chantix and this group. I'll let him know this group is only for perfect angels who aren't allowed to share their real thought.
Marcus
Marcus I'm an old pussy and 2 years ago I used chantix and I got a reaming by a mod. Some people are total asses. If chantix works for you use it. I will say I did have the fucked up dreams, and I was already suicidal. A lot of quitters come and get pissed at comments by others. That's part of the rage that accompanies early withdrawal and quitting. The tough love is something that also makes some others deal with their quitting. Your comments about loving dip is bullshit; you love satisfying your addiction. As you succeed day by day you will begin to realize that much of the comments about quitting that you've been given are accurate. For some the hatred realization grows with your quit. I quit with you!
Chantix is fine if it helps. Anything is fine. This is hard dude... Much harder than a non-addict can understand. The soonervthatbyou get over the "love" the better for your state of mind. We've all been in your shoes. Don't give up on this plan. It works when nothing else does.
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Yeah, if you're saying you would still be dipping if you were healthy, you don't hate dip enough to quit. You have to hate it. Hate the companies that make it, hate everything about it.
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OK well so much for this group. Thanks for all the hateful responses guys. I've been quit over 36 hours, posted roll twice, but this group clearly ain't for me. I cut back from almost a can to less than 3 dips a day two weeks before completely quitting. Due to my legal of addiction, my doctor recommended Chantix and this group. I'll let him know this group is only for perfect angels who aren't allowed to share their real thought.
Marcus
Hey Cornfed, buh bye. I haven't met many perfect angels on this site, but I know for a fact that little pussies don't last long here. When you talk to your doctor, tell him to only recommend this to people who are ready to quit. Tell him to give chantix to everyone who just wants to stop chewing.
Good luck!
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OK well so much for this group. Thanks for all the hateful responses guys. I've been quit over 36 hours, posted roll twice, but this group clearly ain't for me. I cut back from almost a can to less than 3 dips a day two weeks before completely quitting. Due to my legal of addiction, my doctor recommended Chantix and this group. I'll let him know this group is only for perfect angels who aren't allowed to share their real thought.
Marcus
Hey Cornfed, buh bye. I haven't met many perfect angels on this site, but I know for a fact that little pussies don't last long here. When you talk to your doctor, tell him to only recommend this to people who are ready to quit. Tell him to give chantix to everyone who just wants to stop chewing.
Good luck!
Nicotine free is nicotine free.
If you're quit, you're welcome to post any day with me bud. It doesn't matter how you got to the park, it's whether you had the courage to get on the rides.
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OK well so much for this group. Thanks for all the hateful responses guys. I've been quit over 36 hours, posted roll twice, but this group clearly ain't for me. I cut back from almost a can to less than 3 dips a day two weeks before completely quitting. Due to my legal of addiction, my doctor recommended Chantix and this group. I'll let him know this group is only for perfect angels who aren't allowed to share their real thought.
Marcus
Hey Cornfed, buh bye. I haven't met many perfect angels on this site, but I know for a fact that little pussies don't last long here. When you talk to your doctor, tell him to only recommend this to people who are ready to quit. Tell him to give chantix to everyone who just wants to stop chewing.
Good luck!
Nicotine free is nicotine free.
If you're quit, you're welcome to post any day with me bud. It doesn't matter how you got to the park, it's whether you had the courage to get on the rides.
Stay a while, make some friends. All I've seen is a bunch of quitters trying to get some hate for the poison out of u. Knowledge builds hate and hate breads quit.
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Thanks for the people who have replied with encouragement. What I don't get about the backlash from my post is that all I did was acknowledge that someone can love the psyochological aspects of dipping -- the action, carrying the can, the taste, the ritual; the venemous responses were that it's only my body loves the nicotene. That's totally bogus. Otherwise after the 5-7 days of physical withdrawal, we'd be all done guys.
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Thanks for the people who have replied with encouragement. What I don't get about the backlash from my post is that all I did was acknowledge that someone can love the psyochological aspects of dipping -- the action, carrying the can, the taste, the ritual; the venemous responses were that it's only my body loves the nicotene. That's totally bogus. Otherwise after the 5-7 days of physical withdrawal, we'd be all done guys.
Cornfed,
If using Chantix, please be sure to keep in touch with you doc and let him/her know how you are doing on it. Many have quit using it. Just realize that one day soon, you will need to quit it as well....Stay nic free and post here and in your group.....Tough love is tough some times ( 'winker' )....Strap tight for a fun ride.
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Thanks for the people who have replied with encouragement. What I don't get about the backlash from my post is that all I did was acknowledge that someone can love the psyochological aspects of dipping -- the action, carrying the can, the taste, the ritual; the venemous responses were that it's only my body loves the nicotene. That's totally bogus. Otherwise after the 5-7 days of physical withdrawal, we'd be all done guys.
Cornfed,
If using Chantix, please be sure to keep in touch with you doc and let him/her know how you are doing on it. Many have quit using it. Just realize that one day soon, you will need to quit it as well....Stay nic free and post here and in your group.....Tough love is tough some times ( 'winker' )....Strap tight for a fun ride.
Thanks man. I was dipping nearly a can a day. I tried cold turkey lots of times (congrats to all those who have succeeded that way). This time I'm using Chantix. I know the risks. It's worth it to me. Doc offered me 2mg twice a day. I am taking 1mg twice a day. I'm aware that I gotta quit that at some point, too. However, in the 7 days of tapering and now 3 days of being quit (looking forward to hearing guys say I'm not quit :) ) I have already enjoyed decreased pulse, increased sleep time, and less heartburn. So I think I'm on the right path for me for now. Thanks.
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Thanks for the people who have replied with encouragement. What I don't get about the backlash from my post is that all I did was acknowledge that someone can love the psyochological aspects of dipping -- the action, carrying the can, the taste, the ritual; the venemous responses were that it's only my body loves the nicotene. That's totally bogus. Otherwise after the 5-7 days of physical withdrawal, we'd be all done guys.
Ok corndog...I see you have met some of the gang. 'winker'
I want you to read the first couple of pages from my intro in 2010.
topic/1005638/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1005638/1/)
Because I started out here like you did. Pie in the sky. Hey these guys want to help me help them help me. I too was met with 'reality' in the form of some tough love as part of my corrective thinking process.
Don't sweat it. Post roll. Quit. Read. Quit. Learn. Quit. And did I mention quit?
Need a number pm me.
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Thanks for the people who have replied with encouragement. What I don't get about the backlash from my post is that all I did was acknowledge that someone can love the psyochological aspects of dipping -- the action, carrying the can, the taste, the ritual; the venemous responses were that it's only my body loves the nicotene. That's totally bogus. Otherwise after the 5-7 days of physical withdrawal, we'd be all done guys.
The ritual that you mention was simply your efficient method of feeding your nicotine addiction. The ritual was designed by yourself to feed your addiction. I hope, and believe, that you will come to develop a little disdain for the efficiency with which you got the nicotine into your body. From what we've learned here some hatred and disdain go along way in a successful quit. Especially when it's a hatred of poison the actions we took to slowly kill ourselves.
Glad you decided to stay and post roll with us. Hopefully as time moves forward you will see the brotherhood that exists here and you will embrace it. We are simply here to keep each other quit. That is it.
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Thanks for the people who have replied with encouragement. What I don't get about the backlash from my post is that all I did was acknowledge that someone can love the psyochological aspects of dipping -- the action, carrying the can, the taste, the ritual; the venemous responses were that it's only my body loves the nicotene. That's totally bogus. Otherwise after the 5-7 days of physical withdrawal, we'd be all done guys.
Cornfed,
If using Chantix, please be sure to keep in touch with you doc and let him/her know how you are doing on it. Many have quit using it. Just realize that one day soon, you will need to quit it as well....Stay nic free and post here and in your group.....Tough love is tough some times ( 'winker' )....Strap tight for a fun ride.
Thanks man. I was dipping nearly a can a day. I tried cold turkey lots of times (congrats to all those who have succeeded that way). This time I'm using Chantix. I know the risks. It's worth it to me. Doc offered me 2mg twice a day. I am taking 1mg twice a day. I'm aware that I gotta quit that at some point, too. However, in the 7 days of tapering and now 3 days of being quit (looking forward to hearing guys say I'm not quit :) ) I have already enjoyed decreased pulse, increased sleep time, and less heartburn. So I think I'm on the right path for me for now. Thanks.
It don't mean shit if you don't stay quit.
Write that down.
I don't care how you got here...you're here. Ain't no drug gonna keep you quit forever. You've got to man up and realize you decide your quit. I've seen people quit with chantix...I've seen people STOP with chantix. They rely on the drug, and think that's the only thing holding them to their quit. After a little time, they get bored.
Now, you can be badass and own your quit...or not. But the choice is yours. Post roll, and fucking lead.
I would suggest some herbal snuff (non tobacco). It's great for the empty lip feeling if you don't feel strong.
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I don't care if you are using Chantrix, or snapping mouse traps on your cock every time you have a crave, nic free is nic free, so gratz on the quit so far.
I'm too lazy to dig up my intro, but I came in here using a patch, so imagine the comments there when I posted a Day 2 on Roll. Seems funny to me now I am still here 95 days nic free and the assholes are now my friends, and I credit them with saving my life. There's gonna be tough love and blunt comments, but the freedom is worth the hurt feelings.
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Thanks for the people who have replied with encouragement. What I don't get about the backlash from my post is that all I did was acknowledge that someone can love the psyochological aspects of dipping -- the action, carrying the can, the taste, the ritual; the venemous responses were that it's only my body loves the nicotene. That's totally bogus. Otherwise after the 5-7 days of physical withdrawal, we'd be all done guys.
Cornfed,
If using Chantix, please be sure to keep in touch with you doc and let him/her know how you are doing on it. Many have quit using it. Just realize that one day soon, you will need to quit it as well....Stay nic free and post here and in your group.....Tough love is tough some times ( 'winker' )....Strap tight for a fun ride.
I've been where you are my friend. I know exactly what your saying. Glad your staying here. We've all been there my friend. Open your mind. Your in for a ride. We're here to help.
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Cornfed
Welcome to the Titans. Just take it one day at a time with all of us. As far as all of the comments... go through the website and read as much as you can. You will see each one of these guys only wants you to quit. Nothing else matters including your feelings.
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I don't know what the success rate on this site is compared to other methods; all I can say is that I am 3 weeks from the hall of fame (100 days quit) and I never imagined I would be here when I started. Does the tough talk have to be part of it? I don't know. I do know if you stick it out, take what works, and leave the rest, you can be quit--chantix or no chantix.
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I don't know what the success rate on this site is compared to other methods; all I can say is that I am 3 weeks from the hall of fame (100 days quit) and I never imagined I would be here when I started. Does the tough talk have to be part of it? I don't know. I do know if you stick it out, take what works, and leave the rest, you can be quit--chantix or no chantix.
Good job man -- I can't wait to be in your shoes . . . Day 4 here for me and still feeling pretty good. The cravings are changing -- now I don't immediately think dip but more like "something's wrong, can't put my finger on it . . ." Then I realize it's dip I'm craving. Then before too long I'm doing something else. It's funny where the cans are turning up -- pretty much everywhere. This morning it was my gym bag. I'm tossing them as I find them.
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I don't know what the success rate on this site is compared to other methods; all I can say is that I am 3 weeks from the hall of fame (100 days quit) and I never imagined I would be here when I started. Does the tough talk have to be part of it? I don't know. I do know if you stick it out, take what works, and leave the rest, you can be quit--chantix or no chantix.
Sorry guys, still learning the cut-and-paste thing.
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I don't know what the success rate on this site is compared to other methods; all I can say is that I am 3 weeks from the hall of fame (100 days quit) and I never imagined I would be here when I started. Does the tough talk have to be part of it? I don't know. I do know if you stick it out, take what works, and leave the rest, you can be quit--chantix or no chantix.
Good job man -- I can't wait to be in your shoes . . . Day 4 here for me and still feeling pretty good. The cravings are changing -- now I don't immediately think dip but more like "something's wrong, can't put my finger on it . . ." Then I realize it's dip I'm craving. Then before too long I'm doing something else. It's funny where the cans are turning up -- pretty much everywhere. This morning it was my gym bag. I'm tossing them as I find them.
Great job cornfed. You know what day 4 means? It means you are now poison free brother.
Take a good look out your front door. Have a good look at the world without the poison blurring your vision. Breath in that oxygen that was being stolen from you each and every day. Your body is thanking you my friend. It has been longing for this day for far to long. If you look carefully you'll see a difference in everything my friend. We weren't meant to be bound chained and gagged. If you get a chance read my hof speech down below. Hopefully it will inspire you. Need anything give a shout.
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I don't know what the success rate on this site is compared to other methods; all I can say is that I am 3 weeks from the hall of fame (100 days quit) and I never imagined I would be here when I started. Does the tough talk have to be part of it? I don't know. I do know if you stick it out, take what works, and leave the rest, you can be quit--chantix or no chantix.
Good job man -- I can't wait to be in your shoes . . . Day 4 here for me and still feeling pretty good. The cravings are changing -- now I don't immediately think dip but more like "something's wrong, can't put my finger on it . . ." Then I realize it's dip I'm craving. Then before too long I'm doing something else. It's funny where the cans are turning up -- pretty much everywhere. This morning it was my gym bag. I'm tossing them as I find them.
Great job cornfed. You know what day 4 means? It means you are now poison free brother.
Take a good look out your front door. Have a good look at the world without the poison blurring your vision. Breath in that oxygen that was being stolen from you each and every day. Your body is thanking you my friend. It has been longing for this day for far to long. If you look carefully you'll see a difference in everything my friend. We weren't meant to be bound chained and gagged. If you get a chance read my hof speech down below. Hopefully it will inspire you. Need anything give a shout.
Corfed as Srans pointed out today is the day that your body is free from nicotine. This will be a great day for you today. Celebrate this win, and stay focused on the lifetime of freedom. Just remember that you can only get that lifetime one day at a time, they add up quickly, be sure to keep all these little wins as fuel to keep you on track to the great goal.
If this was easy none of us would need KTC.
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You don't need a prescription to quit. I dipped for like 26 years. I quit cold turkey. It's all in your head bro. You have to simply tell yourself that you are done! Then quit. 1 hour at a time. 5 hours at a time. 1 day a time. You can quit and you don't need a drug to help you quit. You just need to hate dip. IT IS KILLING YOU !!!
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I don't know what the success rate on this site is compared to other methods; all I can say is that I am 3 weeks from the hall of fame (100 days quit) and I never imagined I would be here when I started. Does the tough talk have to be part of it? I don't know. I do know if you stick it out, take what works, and leave the rest, you can be quit--chantix or no chantix.
Good job man -- I can't wait to be in your shoes . . . Day 4 here for me and still feeling pretty good. The cravings are changing -- now I don't immediately think dip but more like "something's wrong, can't put my finger on it . . ." Then I realize it's dip I'm craving. Then before too long I'm doing something else. It's funny where the cans are turning up -- pretty much everywhere. This morning it was my gym bag. I'm tossing them as I find them.
Great job cornfed. You know what day 4 means? It means you are now poison free brother.
Take a good look out your front door. Have a good look at the world without the poison blurring your vision. Breath in that oxygen that was being stolen from you each and every day. Your body is thanking you my friend. It has been longing for this day for far to long. If you look carefully you'll see a difference in everything my friend. We weren't meant to be bound chained and gagged. If you get a chance read my hof speech down below. Hopefully it will inspire you. Need anything give a shout.
Corfed as Srans pointed out today is the day that your body is free from nicotine. This will be a great day for you today. Celebrate this win, and stay focused on the lifetime of freedom. Just remember that you can only get that lifetime one day at a time, they add up quickly, be sure to keep all these little wins as fuel to keep you on track to the great goal.
If this was easy none of us would need KTC.
Way to go Cornfed, you took some licks but have come around that's awesome. Never mistake the tough love here for anything other than it is, a bunch of guys who have been in your shoes and can help show you the way forward. We don't pull punches and we don't sugar coat shit, but there is a lot of quit in your corner already.
Don't sweat the Chantix, many guys here have struggled with anxiety and depression. The important thing is your now nicotine free and soon things will get better, I can't tell you how great your freedom is and will be, you'll just have to keep at it.... one day at a time with the rest of us crazy assholes.
I'll quit with you today, shoot me a PM if you need anything.
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I don't know what the success rate on this site is compared to other methods; all I can say is that I am 3 weeks from the hall of fame (100 days quit) and I never imagined I would be here when I started. Does the tough talk have to be part of it? I don't know. I do know if you stick it out, take what works, and leave the rest, you can be quit--chantix or no chantix.
Good job man -- I can't wait to be in your shoes . . . Day 4 here for me and still feeling pretty good. The cravings are changing -- now I don't immediately think dip but more like "something's wrong, can't put my finger on it . . ." Then I realize it's dip I'm craving. Then before too long I'm doing something else. It's funny where the cans are turning up -- pretty much everywhere. This morning it was my gym bag. I'm tossing them as I find them.
Great job cornfed. You know what day 4 means? It means you are now poison free brother.
Take a good look out your front door. Have a good look at the world without the poison blurring your vision. Breath in that oxygen that was being stolen from you each and every day. Your body is thanking you my friend. It has been longing for this day for far to long. If you look carefully you'll see a difference in everything my friend. We weren't meant to be bound chained and gagged. If you get a chance read my hof speech down below. Hopefully it will inspire you. Need anything give a shout.
Corfed as Srans pointed out today is the day that your body is free from nicotine. This will be a great day for you today. Celebrate this win, and stay focused on the lifetime of freedom. Just remember that you can only get that lifetime one day at a time, they add up quickly, be sure to keep all these little wins as fuel to keep you on track to the great goal.
If this was easy none of us would need KTC.
Way to go Cornfed, you took some licks but have come around that's awesome. Never mistake the tough love here for anything other than it is, a bunch of guys who have been in your shoes and can help show you the way forward. We don't pull punches and we don't sugar coat shit, but there is a lot of quit in your corner already.
Don't sweat the Chantix, many guys here have struggled with anxiety and depression. The important thing is your now nicotine free and soon things will get better, I can't tell you how great your freedom is and will be, you'll just have to keep at it.... one day at a time with the rest of us crazy assholes.
I'll quit with you today, shoot me a PM if you need anything.
HEY - Thanks for the support Jlud007. Had more time today. Met some cool guys on here. I'm starting to tell nondipper friends I quit -- help keep me accountable. As a science guy I like knowing that the nic will soon be outta my blood. I know the brain game is probably even harder.
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I know the brain game is probably even harder.
That's ^^^^ where this battle takes place. Sharpen your tools and you'll be surprised how easy this battle can become. Read everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Get to know your enemy, it knows you. Knowledge is power. With the information that is available on this site you should never be surprised again by the poison. Everything is layed out for you. Read other's intros and hof speeches. You'll see the same story over, over and over. Your's will be no different my friend. Your the same as all of us.
Start believing in this quit. Their is no other way. Quit is where you live my friend. Quit is where you work. Quit is your life!!!!
One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. ODAAT and NAFAR!
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I know the brain game is probably even harder.
That's ^^^^ where this battle takes place. Sharpen your tools and you'll be surprised how easy this battle can become. Read everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Get to know your enemy, it knows you. Knowledge is power. With the information that is available on this site you should never be surprised again by the poison. Everything is layed out for you. Read other's intros and hof speeches. You'll see the same story over, over and over. Your's will be no different my friend. Your the same as all of us.
Start believing in this quit. Their is no other way. Quit is where you live my friend. Quit is where you work. Quit is your life!!!!
One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. ODAAT and NAFAR!
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Cornfed - STOP with the cutting and pasting....Do it for roll call, but not when "quoting" someone else and responding to them...Simply type your reply in the empty dialog box and leave the part you are responding to (in the lower box) alone.....Try it...
How's the fog?
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Cornfed - STOP with the cutting and pasting....Do it for roll call, but not when "quoting" someone else and responding to them...Simply type your reply in the empty dialog box and leave the part you are responding to (in the lower box) alone.....Try it...
How's the fog?
Hmmm, how is this Remshot? This computer systems is kinda crazy but hope this is how I should do it. Thanks for the clarification between how to Roll Call and how to post.
I'm in Day 4 and the worst crave or fog just lifted. Sitting at work from about 2 until 4 pretty much just trying to not spin. (Spin eerily similar to first spin from the first lipper I ever did.) Thinking about taking doing some yard work and taking out the Challenger tonight is getting me through... Thanks for checking in and helping me learn how to post.
Nice rack, BTW :D
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Cornfed - STOP with the cutting and pasting....Do it for roll call, but not when "quoting" someone else and responding to them...Simply type your reply in the empty dialog box and leave the part you are responding to (in the lower box) alone.....Try it...
How's the fog?
Hmmm, how is this Remshot? This computer systems is kinda crazy but hope this is how I should do it. Thanks for the clarification between how to Roll Call and how to post.
I'm in Day 4 and the worst crave or fog just lifted. Sitting at work from about 2 until 4 pretty much just trying to not spin. (Spin eerily similar to first spin from the first lipper I ever did.) Thinking about taking doing some yard work and taking out the Challenger tonight is getting me through... Thanks for checking in and helping me learn how to post.
Nice rack, BTW :D
Looks good...You'll be expert in no time.
I was worthless at work for the first month (at least it seemed that long) or so...Damn fog sucks...Keep your head low when possible and get through it. Drink water, then more water, and then some more. Flush your system of the poisons. One day soon you will realize that the fog is gone.
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I know the brain game is probably even harder.
That's ^^^^ where this battle takes place. Sharpen your tools and you'll be surprised how easy this battle can become. Read everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Get to know your enemy, it knows you. Knowledge is power. With the information that is available on this site you should never be surprised again by the poison. Everything is layed out for you. Read other's intros and hof speeches. You'll see the same story over, over and over. Your's will be no different my friend. Your the same as all of us.
Start believing in this quit. Their is no other way. Quit is where you live my friend. Quit is where you work. Quit is your life!!!!
One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. ODAAT and NAFAR!
When you are doing your on site reading, check out the Words of Wisdom page also. I don't yet know how to put links into my posts, but there is a post put up by Jost2Brown "An Open Letter to New Quitters, Why are we dicks?; By: Per034" that addresses the tough love on this site.
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
Either turn and walk away shaking your head, or tell him about KTC....
You're going to see lots of situations that will make you feel better and better about not being a NIC slave anymore, and it only gets better.
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Yeah, that situation is an easy one. You are quit so dipping isn't even a possibility. You tell your "friend" that you are quit. when he offers up a dip you gladly take the can, open it, turn it upside down and dump all the poison on the ground. Next undo your fly, whip out your dick and piss on the can. If he has any questions he can bring them here to this forum. There are a few people here that will set him straight.
Mogul
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Yeah, that situation is an easy one. You are quit so dipping isn't even a possibility. You tell your "friend" that you are quit. when he offers up a dip you gladly take the can, open it, turn it upside down and dump all the poison on the ground. Next undo your fly, whip out your dick and piss on the can. If he has any questions he can bring them here to this forum. There are a few people here that will set him straight.
Mogul
One of the greatest Ktc stories ever...
Pauly dumps the can....
Well boys... great fuckin idea.
"Just take the fuckin can and dump it out"... what could possibly go fuckin wrong?
Fuckity fuck fuck fuck. Ever seen a 6' 220lb guy laughing like a mother fuckin hyena running away from a 5'6" about 140 lb guy who is full on Chugg raging at the loss of a $22 tin of cancer?
Did I mention that we got some late spring bullshit snow storm here last night?
Any of you fuckers stop to think that fuckin around at work is likely frowned upon by the big wigs?
So... the little bastard comes up and goes "Shit Pauly... you know you want some, you can't stay quit forever." Sure, i say, gimme a little dip.
then Pauly takes the tin, pulls the top off it, sticks the finger and thumb in, and then proceeds to make like he's gonna take a real big fuckin dip.
Pauly grabs a great big dip then flicks into the air like fuckin pixie dust. the Pauly puts the can down on the concrete floor and stomps on it with his work boot and begins to giggle like a school girl.
Then, the rage starts. This guy is so goddam mad that he is literally ranting incomprehensible sounds and snarling.
Of course, this is VERY amusing, so Pauly begins to laugh uncontrollably. Like, tears running down my face busting a fuckin gut HOWLING.
Ever try running away from an insane little man while unable to breathe you're laughing so fuckin hard? He's chasing me around the trucks and throwing random punches and kicks and I'm still giggling. He's getting madder and madder, so i round the corner at the front of one of the trucks and get fancy... BUTTON HOOK!!!
Well, Mr Angry chewer slips in a puddle on the concrete floor. Mr Angry Chewer's noggin goes thwack on the bumper and then the concrete.
This just keeps gettin funnier and funnier, so now I'm leaning on the hood trying to catch my breath howling and fucking laughin so hard I think I'm gonna die.
Then, Pauly's boss's boss comes out of the office to find out what the fuck is goin on. He looks even angrier... Ever try explaining that what I'm told looks like I laid a fuckin whuppin on this guy is the result of advice from a bunch of insane mother fuckers I've never met? And an "accident"?
Well... Pauly got sent home early today. I think the words were "I can't even fuckin deal with you right now... Get the fuck outta here... go home."
Is it bad that I'm still fuckin laughing typing this 7 hours later?
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
Ohio time. I was in Toledo for work this morning. Wonderful little city.
Anyway, seeing someone load up for the first time is tough no doubt, but something you're probably going to notice more often. Kind of like when you get a new car and all the sudden you start to notice others are driving the same car.
When I first quit it seemed like every asshole in the world was dipping or at least using nicotine of some kind whether it was cigarettes, cigars, pipes, snus, or even hookah Fucking pipes.
This bugged me, in fact I almost caved ONE time and it was because I saw all these people using and I was jealous and thought I was missing out on something "fun".
So, I texted a guy named Wedge and told him I was caving. I said everyone around me looked so happy with their nicotine and I couldn't take it anymore. I wanted to be happy again.
He texted back, "those people aren't having fun, they are addicted. Don't envy them feel sorry for them".
That made me think. Did I really need a lip full of chew to be happy? Is that want my life had come to? Some weeds in a can dictated my happiness? It didn't make sense. Some of my happiest times were in high school and college, when I had never touched chew. If I was happy then, why did I need chew to be happy now? What changed?
Nothing. Except that I was addicted to nicotine, more so I was dependant on it. That's a very sad fact. Nobody should be dependant on anything packed in a tin.
Bottom line I chewed for 15 years, near the end I was 2 cans of Kodiak a day. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I caught zero buzz anymore. The illusion that dip did anything other than drive me closer to the grave was just that, an illusion.
I see you struggling and I can relate, we all can. We all walked in your shoes and we all had our asses handed to us by someone on this site. It's nothing personal, just an attempt to get your attention and fire you up a bit.
If you need to use chantix, use it. If you need to slam your dick in a door, do that too. As long as you keep nicotine. out of your system that's all that matters. Chantix is not an nrt product. Not sure why your getting so.much guff over that, but don't let that bother you and don't let seeing some goofball pack a dip bother you.
You've made it 5 days, that is AWESOME. Keep it going. It gets sooo much better. I'm 765 days quit and if.I.told you how great I feel you wouldn't believe me. I can't even put into words how great I feel. Sure it sucks, but the suck is only small snapshot of suck in your life. You won't feel this way forever. If it didn't get better, I would.have been out of here long ago.
We are here to help. You need anything at all, hit me up any time. I'm here for you 24/7/365.
Quit on...
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
Ohio time. I was in Toledo for work this morning. Wonderful little city.
Anyway, seeing someone load up for the first time is tough no doubt, but something you're probably going to notice more often. Kind of like when you get a new car and all the sudden you start to notice others are driving the same car.
When I first quit it seemed like every asshole in the world was dipping or at least using nicotine of some kind whether it was cigarettes, cigars, pipes, snus, or even hookah Fucking pipes.
This bugged me, in fact I almost caved ONE time and it was because I saw all these people using and I was jealous and thought I was missing out on something "fun".
So, I texted a guy named Wedge and told him I was caving. I said everyone around me looked so happy with their nicotine and I couldn't take it anymore. I wanted to be happy again.
He texted back, "those people aren't having fun, they are addicted. Don't envy them feel sorry for them".
That made me think. Did I really need a lip full of chew to be happy? Is that want my life had come to? Some weeds in a can dictated my happiness? It didn't make sense. Some of my happiest times were in high school and college, when I had never touched chew. If I was happy then, why did I need chew to be happy now? What changed?
Nothing. Except that I was addicted to nicotine, more so I was dependant on it. That's a very sad fact. Nobody should be dependant on anything packed in a tin.
Bottom line I chewed for 15 years, near the end I was 2 cans of Kodiak a day. My jaw hurt, my tongue was numb, I caught zero buzz anymore. The illusion that dip did anything other than drive me closer to the grave was just that, an illusion.
I see you struggling and I can relate, we all can. We all walked in your shoes and we all had our asses handed to us by someone on this site. It's nothing personal, just an attempt to get your attention and fire you up a bit.
If you need to use chantix, use it. If you need to slam your dick in a door, do that too. As long as you keep nicotine. out of your system that's all that matters. Chantix is not an nrt product. Not sure why your getting so.much guff over that, but don't let that bother you and don't let seeing some goofball pack a dip bother you.
You've made it 5 days, that is AWESOME. Keep it going. It gets sooo much better. I'm 765 days quit and if.I.told you how great I feel you wouldn't believe me. I can't even put into words how great I feel. Sure it sucks right now, but the suck is only small snapshot in your life. You won't feel this way forever. If it didn't get better, I would.have been out of here long ago.
We are here to help. You need anything at all, hit me up any time. I'm here for you 24/7/365.
Quit on...
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
You may already be using fake chew, but that has been a great help to me when I am around dippers. Just like Chantix is not an issue, you can use as much fake stuff as you want. I don't spit when doing the herbal stuff and it's great to not have to deal with a spitter. (My friends appreciate it as well.)
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
Walk away (if you can) if it helps, but eventually you'll be in a situation where you'll be around a user and can't walk away. I have 2 brother in-laws that both dip. They live 4 hours away, and I only see them 2 or 3 times a year, and usually at a family event, so purposely ditching them is not an option. So when it came down to "the men retiring to watch the game", I re-read my texts to my KTC brothers for the last few days and simply choose not to dip. I knew I could have excused myself at any moment to make a call to my brothers here as well. This was around Day 45 or so.
I am now at Day 97, I know how to get a quitter on the phone ASAP, and I know I made a promise not to use nicotine today. Have a plan in every situation.
It does get easier with brother, just go ODAAT.
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
Pity them, don't be them.
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
Lots of great advice. I want to point you in a different direction. That buddy that you helped put the mulch down.
Look to him, a non user. I'll bet he's not going through the day worrying about his poison suckling buddies. I bet when he sees people using he don't give it another thought. He probably laughs at the idea of spending 1000's of dollars on an addiction that does nothing but take. I bet he doesn't give poison sucklers a second thought. That's the guy you need to envy. Those are the kind of individuals I wanted to be like.
The poison doesn't deserve our want and desire. It deserves our hate and disgust.
Next time you get a chance really take a good look at your poison suckling buddies. Life sucks being bound chained and gagged. Quit with you today.
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
Lots of great advice. I want to point you in a different direction. That buddy that you helped put the mulch down.
Look to him, a non user. I'll bet he's not going through the day worrying about his poison suckling buddies. I bet when he sees people using he don't give it another thought. He probably laughs at the idea of spending 1000's of dollars on an addiction that does nothing but take. I bet he doesn't give poison sucklers a second thought. That's the guy you need to envy. Those are the kind of individuals I wanted to be like.
The poison doesn't deserve our want and desire. It deserves our hate and disgust.
Next time you get a chance really take a good look at your poison suckling buddies. Life sucks being bound chained and gagged. Quit with you today.
Hey guys, I hung out with all non-poison sucking buddies tonight. Biggest realization today is I have to experience live both the good and bad -- no escaping into a nicotene cloud when the conversation lags or it's not fun being with these morons (friends) anymore. Other 2 things are physical -- super thirrsty no matter what I drink and my mouth has busted open into a canker sore hell today.
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Hey guys, checking in at 11:30 p.m. or so Ohio time. Almost to Day 5 here (by hours, I am now into Day 5 -- sad I'm still counting hours). I went over to help out with a non-dipping buddy tonight -- helped him put down mulch in his yard then we went a nearby tavern. I know drinking isn't suggested so I kept it to two beers so I didn't get off my game. I stayed dip-free I am proud to say. Something I haven't seen talked about yet (I haven't waded through all of the forums) is how do you deal with seeing a dipper for the first time after you quit? I kept to myself and with family until today. I saw an acquitance put in a big lipper and damn that hurt! I walked away. I'd love to hear how others deal with this. It's gonna happen eventually for all of us, right?
Lots of great advice. I want to point you in a different direction. That buddy that you helped put the mulch down.
Look to him, a non user. I'll bet he's not going through the day worrying about his poison suckling buddies. I bet when he sees people using he don't give it another thought. He probably laughs at the idea of spending 1000's of dollars on an addiction that does nothing but take. I bet he doesn't give poison sucklers a second thought. That's the guy you need to envy. Those are the kind of individuals I wanted to be like.
The poison doesn't deserve our want and desire. It deserves our hate and disgust.
Next time you get a chance really take a good look at your poison suckling buddies. Life sucks being bound chained and gagged. Quit with you today.
Hey guys, I hung out with all non-poison sucking buddies tonight. Biggest realization today is I have to experience live both the good and bad -- no escaping into a nicotene cloud when the conversation lags or it's not fun being with these morons (friends) anymore. Other 2 things are physical -- super thirrsty no matter what I drink and my mouth has busted open into a canker sore hell today.
Yeah, but you're quit. All the rest will disappear in a few days and you will still be quit. Big picture--small problem. You got this or you wouldn't be here. I quit with ya.
Mogul