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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: bigduke45123 on August 12, 2010, 03:28:00 AM
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I have been chewwing for 13+ years and I am only 28 years old. I have decided to try the patch and am on day two of the program but I have been having a very hard time with not having anything in the spot my dip used to be in. Have an empty feeling there. I work nite shift in a factory and almost cracked tonite but didn't.
I would really like to quit this time it will be my second attemp on quitting the first time I went ten days and went back but my hopes are a lot higher this time around. Does anyone know what I can use to substitute that spot in my mouth where my dip use to be. I tryed a big bunch of chewwing gum but that doesn't really help me any.
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I have been chewwing for 13+ years and I am only 28 years old. I have decided to try the patch and am on day two of the program but I have been having a very hard time with not having anything in the spot my dip used to be in. Have an empty feeling there. I work nite shift in a factory and almost cracked tonite but didn't.
I would really like to quit this time it will be my second attemp on quitting the first time I went ten days and went back but my hopes are a lot higher this time around. Does anyone know what I can use to substitute that spot in my mouth where my dip use to be. I tryed a big bunch of chewwing gum but that doesn't really help me any.
Mr. Big Duke:
I suggest you spend a little more time reading around the site. When you do, it'll become purty obvious that:
a. We don't believe in "trying" around here...only "doing",
b. NRT (the patch) was used by a few of us, but most will embrace 'cold turkey' as the way to go,
c. if you think quitting is hard now, just wait til you get the training wheels off (stop the patch). That's when it gets real nasty.
d. there are plenty of replacements for the oral fixation. Many guys will embrace fake snuff. Others will suggest sunflower seeds. Nothing wrong with either,
e. its time for you to man up, post roll, and give your word that you're not gonna use dip during tonight's shift.
Your move bro.
...theo
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I have been chewwing for 13+ years and I am only 28 years old. I have decided to try the patch and am on day two of the program but I have been having a very hard time with not having anything in the spot my dip used to be in. Have an empty feeling there. I work nite shift in a factory and almost cracked tonite but didn't.
  I would really like to quit this time it will be my second attemp on quitting the first time I went ten days and went back but my hopes are a lot higher this time around. Does anyone know what I can use to substitute that spot in my mouth where my dip use to be. I tryed a big bunch of chewwing gum but that doesn't really help me any.
Mr. Big Duke:
I suggest you spend a little more time reading around the site. When you do, it'll become purty obvious that:
a. We don't believe in "trying" around here...only "doing",
b. NRT (the patch) was used by a few of us, but most will embrace 'cold turkey' as the way to go,
c. if you think quitting is hard now, just wait til you get the training wheels off (stop the patch). That's when it gets real nasty.
d. there are plenty of replacements for the oral fixation. Many guys will embrace fake snuff. Others will suggest sunflower seeds. Nothing wrong with either,
e. its time for you to man up, post roll, and give your word that you're not gonna use dip during tonight's shift.
Your move bro.
...theo
Using of the patch makes it hurt a little for a long time (however long you use it) then hurt a lot once your off it for about three days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
Cold turkey make its hurt a whole lot for 3 days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
Everyone is capable of option two, so its beyond me why option 1 of prolonging the pain seems better to anyone. I'm betting its because half don't know the truth (because the pharma companies aren't exactly honest) and the other half are pusses that aren't gonna make it anyways.
You succeed at quitting because of you and a choice you make, not because of some trick, technique, or drug.
Don't put it in your mouth. It gets better faster than you realize. Reintroducing nicotine (with dip, smoke, patch, enema, etc.) starts the process over.
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I have decided to try the patch and am on day two of the program but I have been having a very hard time with not having anything in the spot my dip used to be in.
Don't post until you are quit. Posting with a patch isn't quit. This is no nic site. As the others said, "try" don't "fly" here.
Are you pissed because YOU have been doing something so stupid for so many years? Are you pissed because YOU haven't been able to quit? Are YOU ready to really quit for good?
Why are you quiting, what is your plan, what are you doing to keep from caving? Do you have seeds, are you reading everything on this site, are you a man of your word, do you have fake stuff, are you drinking lots of water, going for a run....
When you are quit, post up and then keep your word. Once posted, no nic for the day. then just like groundhogs day, come back next day, post up ....
So what's your next move? If you commit to this site, you will be surprised by how many guys will walk the journey with you.
You need a number, PM me. I'm a 30 year idiot that found his way 60 days ago.
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duke, these guys have it covered. read ALL their responses again and again until you finally get it. nicotine replacement just makes it harder. i was using the gum until the guys here set me straight. quit cold turkey NOW. if you really do need oral substitution there are many non-carcinogenic things you can use as already mentioned. but stop feeling sorry for yourself. yeah we know it's hard and we know at first it's like somebody killed your best friend. it's not true, that little feeling in your head is the Nic Bitch fucking with you.
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Using of the patch makes it hurt a little for a long time (however long you use it) then hurt a lot once your off it for about three days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
Cold turkey make its hurt a whole lot for 3 days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
I like this yota. Kinda like the difference between cutting a rotting, puss infected finger off with a dull butter knife or sharp axe.
Just get it over with.
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Using of the patch makes it hurt a little for a long time (however long you use it) then hurt a lot once your off it for about three days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
Cold turkey make its hurt a whole lot for 3 days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
I like this yota. Kinda like the difference between cutting a rotting, puss infected finger off with a dull butter knife or sharp axe.
Just get it over with.
1 more vote for ice cold turkey. I did it and I was a 2 can a day dipper for 23 years. Went cold turkey and never looked back.
Did it suck, hell yes it did, but it is awesome today!!
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Using of the patch makes it hurt a little for a long time (however long you use it) then hurt a lot once your off it for about three days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
Cold turkey make its hurt a whole lot for 3 days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
I like this yota. Kinda like the difference between cutting a rotting, puss infected finger off with a dull butter knife or sharp axe.
Just get it over with.
1 more vote for ice cold turkey. I did it and I was a 2 can a day dipper for 23 years. Went cold turkey and never looked back.
Did it suck, hell yes it did, but it is awesome today!!
Cold Turkey is the ONLY way to go!!! Rip that damn thing off your arm right now!!! Get it over with in the shortest amount of time!!! Like Yota says, the patch only delays the pain!!! Use fake dip to satisfly that empty feeling in your lip!
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Don't post until you are quit. Posting with a patch isn't quit. This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
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Using of the patch makes it hurt a little for a long time (however long you use it) then hurt a lot once your off it for about three days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
Cold turkey make its hurt a whole lot for 3 days. Then you begin to get a little better each day.
I like this yota. Kinda like the difference between cutting a rotting, puss infected finger off with a dull butter knife or sharp axe.
Just get it over with.
1 more vote for ice cold turkey. I did it and I was a 2 can a day dipper for 23 years. Went cold turkey and never looked back.
Did it suck, hell yes it did, but it is awesome today!!
Cold Turkey is the ONLY way to go!!! Rip that damn thing off your arm right now!!! Get it over with in the shortest amount of time!!! Like Yota says, the patch only delays the pain!!! Use fake dip to satisfly that empty feeling in your lip!
I will agree with all of this. Cold turkey is the only way to go. I was a can to a can and a half a day guy for 23 years. Quit cold turkey 286 days ago. Just wish I had been smart enought to do it a long time ago.
It sucks serious ass for awhile, but the feeling on the other side is soooo much better. You CAN do this if you want to. We are all proof of that.
Now get rid of the NRT's and lets get this quit rolling !!
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Don't post until you are quit. Posting with a patch isn't quit. This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
bman i guess you or i didnt get the memo of the new rules here Big Duke congrats on quitting
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
It is just fine to post in the intro section until you are ready to quit. The quitters roll call are for those who have quit.
There have been many guys post in the intro section about a planned quit date and they are shown a better way. Just like we are trying to do here. Why would anyone advise people to prolong the suck by using nicotine?
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
It is just fine to post in the intro section until you are ready to quit. The quitters roll call are for those who have quit.
There have been many guys post in the intro section about a planned quit date and they are shown a better way. Just like we are trying to do here. Why would anyone advise people to prolong the suck by using nicotine?
Beg to differ, mikey. NOBODY in this thread has advised the fresh quitter to use NRT. We've unanimously suggested that it is a bad idea. Accepted? Yes. Good idea? Frick, NO!
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
It is just fine to post in the intro section until you are ready to quit. The quitters roll call are for those who have quit.
There have been many guys post in the intro section about a planned quit date and they are shown a better way. Just like we are trying to do here. Why would anyone advise people to prolong the suck by using nicotine?
I advise people to quit by using any means necessary. For me it was cold turkey and leaning on my brothers.
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
It is just fine to post in the intro section until you are ready to quit. The quitters roll call are for those who have quit.
There have been many guys post in the intro section about a planned quit date and they are shown a better way. Just like we are trying to do here. Why would anyone advise people to prolong the suck by using nicotine?
Beg to differ, mikey. NOBODY in this thread has advised the fresh quitter to use NRT. We've unanimously suggested that it is a bad idea. Accepted? Yes. Good idea? Frick, NO!
any means necessary? Well that leaves the door wide open.
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
It is just fine to post in the intro section until you are ready to quit. The quitters roll call are for those who have quit.
There have been many guys post in the intro section about a planned quit date and they are shown a better way. Just like we are trying to do here. Why would anyone advise people to prolong the suck by using nicotine?
Beg to differ, mikey. NOBODY in this thread has advised the fresh quitter to use NRT. We've unanimously suggested that it is a bad idea. Accepted? Yes. Good idea? Frick, NO!
any means necessary? Well that leaves the door wide open.
Well reading thru all the Vet answers, makes me wonder why I was confused in the first place... Seems pretty clear as mud to me. :D
I think the quit tag line should be:
Post up, give your word that you will not use dip. We understand that you might be a weak ass MF and need to use other methods to continue to injest the nic. So no dip, but feel free to shoot up, snort nic, smoke it -but only second hand, drink from a spit cup as long as you didn't produce it, lick an ash tray, eat cig butts, wear a patch and chew nic gum... JUST DON'T DIP.
Or if you want to succeed, use this site and stop putting any kind of nic poison into your body via any method.
Acutally it's a good debate that was had and as someone that's only been here for 60 days it's helpful to see input for you all. I do like the idea of - if you post in the quit zone, you should post and indicate your patch days (or days left). Might help the fellow quiters know how to support you better.
Quit long and prosper!
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
It is just fine to post in the intro section until you are ready to quit. The quitters roll call are for those who have quit.
There have been many guys post in the intro section about a planned quit date and they are shown a better way. Just like we are trying to do here. Why would anyone advise people to prolong the suck by using nicotine?
Beg to differ, mikey. NOBODY in this thread has advised the fresh quitter to use NRT. We've unanimously suggested that it is a bad idea. Accepted? Yes. Good idea? Frick, NO!
any means necessary? Well that leaves the door wide open.
Well reading thru all the Vet answers, makes me wonder why I was confused in the first place... Seems pretty clear as mud to me. :D
I think the quit tag line should be:
Post up, give your word that you will not use dip. We understand that you might be a weak ass MF and need to use other methods to continue to injest the nic. So no dip, but feel free to shoot up, snort nic, smoke it -but only second hand, drink from a spit cup as long as you didn't produce it, lick an ash tray, eat cig butts, wear a patch and chew nic gum... JUST DON'T DIP.
Or if you want to succeed, use this site and stop putting any kind of nic poison into your body via any method.
Acutally it's a good debate that was had and as someone that's only been here for 60 days it's helpful to see input for you all. I do like the idea of - if you post in the quit zone, you should post and indicate your patch days (or days left). Might help the fellow quiters know how to support you better.
Quit long and prosper!
This debate is far from new...
index.php?showtopic=2072 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2072)
Ready runs like hell after knocking down the hornets nest
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Don't post until you are quit.  Posting with a patch isn't quit.  This is no nic site.
man i see this way to much round here. and its not true. NRT is excepted here but only if you use it exactly the way its perscribed. not using it when ever you feel like it witch wood be more of a gum thing then the patch thing.
on the flip side most of us also will tell you it aint the way to go and theres plenty in this here thred. and i aint gonna argue a bit with the rest a the avice here.
i tell you now i was erly on the "imbrace the suck. remember the suck. dont repete the suck" band wagon.
The deranged one is correct here. As 44 used to put it..."using NRT EXACTLY as prescribed" is allowed, BUT...
...if you're supposed to chew three pieces a day, and you so much as lick the candy coating of a fourth, that's a cave."
Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date". I, like many others, used the gum for a couple weeks before listening to others on this site, and finally realizing how stupid it was.
theo I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If it's three pieces and three pieces only why spend the extra money, just have 3 dips a day. I mean, it's still nicotine and you are cutting down.
From the welcome center: Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
Did that ideology change?
ya theo, old theory. New breed of quitters these days. 100% cold fucking turkey now days. That's what we did and that's what we expect,
That ideology has not changed. Roll Call is the most important thing we do.....Our word is our bond. Though last time I checked, the introduction section wasn't exactly the place you posted roll.
There have been some quitters in here that have used NRT and posted in the intro-section to respect those that are completely nic free. Though I agree that cold-turkey is the way to go, I will still support someone who is trying to quit with NRT as long as they are using it properly.
BigDuke, you gotta do what is best for you. Make a plan and stick to it.
It is just fine to post in the intro section until you are ready to quit. The quitters roll call are for those who have quit.
There have been many guys post in the intro section about a planned quit date and they are shown a better way. Just like we are trying to do here. Why would anyone advise people to prolong the suck by using nicotine?
Beg to differ, mikey. NOBODY in this thread has advised the fresh quitter to use NRT. We've unanimously suggested that it is a bad idea. Accepted? Yes. Good idea? Frick, NO!
any means necessary? Well that leaves the door wide open.
Well reading thru all the Vet answers, makes me wonder why I was confused in the first place... Seems pretty clear as mud to me. :D
I think the quit tag line should be:
Post up, give your word that you will not use dip. We understand that you might be a weak ass MF and need to use other methods to continue to injest the nic. So no dip, but feel free to shoot up, snort nic, smoke it -but only second hand, drink from a spit cup as long as you didn't produce it, lick an ash tray, eat cig butts, wear a patch and chew nic gum... JUST DON'T DIP.
Or if you want to succeed, use this site and stop putting any kind of nic poison into your body via any method.
Acutally it's a good debate that was had and as someone that's only been here for 60 days it's helpful to see input for you all. I do like the idea of - if you post in the quit zone, you should post and indicate your patch days (or days left). Might help the fellow quiters know how to support you better.
Quit long and prosper!
This debate is far from new...
index.php?showtopic=2072 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2072)
Ready runs like hell after knocking down the hornets nest
If there is a debate then I would ask the moderating team to take this out of the welcome center because apparently to half of you this doesn't mean shit.
Taken Directly from the Welcome Center, remember this WHY we do it
Roll Call - Why we do it... - back to top
Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day.
We require a simple "one day at a time" philosophy. Make roll call, concentrate on today and today only. We'll work through the troubles of today with you. We'll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.
Roll call will build accountability with your brothers. You know that the man next to you in line is going through or has dealt with the exact same things you are. Lean on the knowledge of those who have walked that road. Develop relationships with them and especially the guys in your home group. These people will save your life if you let them.
If you follow this simple advice you'll be amazed. You have lied to, cheated on, and stole time from every single person you hold dear. You take roll call seriously, and you will find that total strangers will give your quit more accountability than any "real" person in your world.
If you want to quit, deep down, really want to quit... roll call is the cornerstone you will build your quit house on. Be loyal to yourself, your group, and ultimately to QSX as a whole and you shall have the freedom you desire. Guaranteed.
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and just so it does not get lost, here is the quote again from the welcome center in the topic "Roll call, why we do it"
"Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day."
It says nothing about mostly nicotine free or 99% nicotine free or this kind of nicotine delivery system free.....it says nicotine free and there should be no argument what that means.
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Hehe, it is a good conversation! One that I can easily see both sides of. Part of me says that the only way to quit is to just do it and quit cold turkey....the other part says not everyone can do it. I respect and can support that as long as there end game is quitting. So if you use and NRT plan, be serious and don't waste our time.
Make no mistake though, I don't support posting roll in the quit groups unless you are nic free though. In here is fine, but not the groups.
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and just so it does not get lost, here is the quote again from the welcome center in the topic "Roll call, why we do it"
"Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day."
It says nothing about mostly nicotine free or 99% nicotine free or this kind of nicotine delivery system free.....it says nicotine free and there should be no argument what that means.
Nobody will disagree with you on that. Posting in the quit groups is disrespectful and not allowed.
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Let me see if this clears it up Duke.
In my almost 400 days here I have yet to see someone successfully quit because they used NRT.
A few have quit in spite of their use, and each one I know of will tell you that it was a mistake and they'd never go that route again. They eventually went through a hellish day 1-3 when they gave up the NRT. Its just that they had to go through a kinda sorta hellish pre-30, 60, whatever before they got to the bad days.
Most who used the NRT though, never got in the right mind set to actually quit. They disappeared forever, unsuccessful once again.
You may think you're different, but you're not. You have the strength within you to succeed. Decide to do so.That's really all it takes.
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and just so it does not get lost, here is the quote again from the welcome center in the topic "Roll call, why we do it"
"Roll call is the most important thing you will do here. That one simple act will be what makes this quit different than any other attempt. Roll call, quite simply, is a promise to your brothers that you will be Nicotine Free for that day."
It says nothing about mostly nicotine free or 99% nicotine free or this kind of nicotine delivery system free.....it says nicotine free and there should be no argument what that means.
Nobody will disagree with you on that. Posting in the quit groups is disrespectful and not allowed.
ummm, theo disagrees. Read below.
he says
"Some guys have posted two dates "no dip date", and "no nic date""
I assume he meant that they post roll with 2 dates which is BS.
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Hehe, it is a good conversation! One that I can easily see both sides of. Part of me says that the only way to quit is to just do it and quit cold turkey....the other part says not everyone can do it. I respect and can support that as long as there end game is quitting. So if you use and NRT plan, be serious and don't waste our time.
Make no mistake though, I don't support posting roll in the quit groups unless you are nic free though. In here is fine, but not the groups.
Why is it a conversation at all? No nicotine, end of story. We don't allow people in chat when they are dipping, smoking, etc. so please tell me how that is different than posting in intorductions. How about we tell them its ok, we will coddle you through this.
Wait, they already have a site of people who can't man up and quit.
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Mr. BigDuke,
If you followed the conversation ensuing from your initial post, your head is spinning. Let LOOT clear it up.
1. Get rid of the wishy washy language. Recovering nicotine addicts have no place in their quit vocabulary for words like "hope" and "try". Those words kill addicts. We use "do" and "will". Positive words lead to positive outcomes.
2. Some people will break you over the seriousness of roll call. Some guys get real quirky about roll call. Please understand what it is and why we do it before you partake.
3. Most people here are cold turkey kinda guys for the reasons they outlined.
4. NRT and it's use are sorta frowned up because of reason #3. While we generally allow people to post in the intro thread on NRT and in some cases...with fatties (from ignorance)...we generally like to remind those people that the overwhelming majority of people reading your posts are fighting their addiction tooth and nail. Respect for that is appreciated. Follow the NRT step down program to the letter and you are welcome to post about your journey here...in your very own introduction page. When you complete the program we will accept nothing less than a Day 1 post in the appropriate group.
5. These people will watch you. They will hold you accountable. They will make sure you follow the program. They will save your life...but only if you let them.
Your call bro. Make post #2 a Day #1. You don't need NRT. We both know it. NRT is simply leaving the door ajar. Slam the motherfucker shut and get on with the suck. No way around it. It is coming one way or the other.
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Do you recall cjs2006? She was in March 2010 and had a world of issues that resulted from her quitting cold turkey - eventually neccesitating hospitalization. I can think of at least 3 others off the top of my head and I am sure all of you have encountered people on this site who had SERIOUS medical issues as a direct result of the immediate cessation of all nicotine. Most of us are lucky and do not suffer much beyond the fog, lack of sleep, headaches and rage. But to say there is no place for NRT is rather silly actually. This is not a testosterone contest. Should they post roll with a pre-HOF group? No. Should they be castigated, turned out and made to feel the leper? For fuck sake no way. If you are going to use NRT make damn certain you have a medical reason to do so. If you do use it, use it exactly as prescribed. If you don't need to use NRT do NOT use it because you will only prolong the suck. Like tearing a band aid off. Sure the height of pain if you do it slowly is less but the duration of that pain makes the ordeal much worse. The odds are very, very good you do not need NRT.
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Castigation is a bad approach. We agree.
It is a funny word, but contrary to the mission.
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Castigation is a bad approach. We agree.
It is a funny word, but contrary to the mission.
'crackup' Loot you f'en crack me up. 'crackup'
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As a matter of clarification...LOOT only recalls a "two day" approach to roll call being implemented a select few times. None were here. Those debates were over when this site was created. Nicotine free is the price of admission to Roll Call on QSX.
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As a matter of clarification...LOOT only recalls a "two day" approach to roll call being implemented a select few times. None were here. Those debates were over when this site was created. Nicotine free is the price of admission to Roll Call on QSX.
Werd !!
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Duke, I have not read all of the posts in this thread, because it's the same debate that pops up from time to time. I don't need to read it all to boil it down for you, real simple-like.
NRT or not, if you want to quit nicotine, in all of its deadly delivery forms, you will one day have to face and deal with nicotine withdrawal. Quitting is not fun for those first few days....it sucks. NRT's will only prolong that inevitability. You cannot escape THE SUCK. But you can struggle and fight your way through it, and come out clean on the other side. And you will have a ton of support along the way.
As a comparison, would you rather pass away quickly from a massive heart attack, or would you prefer to die a slow death, such as starvation/thirst over the course of days?? Quick or slow, it ends the same.
Go cold turkey, and get that shit over with quickly. Or use the NRT's, and prolong the pain and suffering, only to have to face the same end.
I would wish you good luck, but luck isn't involved here. It's a conscious decision that you have to make every single day. You have to want this more than anything else in order to get to a better place. Your freedom from this addiction is there for you to have. But you will have to earn it. Trust us...it's worth it.
You can do this.
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Um...I'm new to this place, (150 days quit today). I know that I've tried the patch...I've tried Welbutrin, I've tried Chantix. The only thing that worked for ME was this place...cold turkey. I was on Chantix when I found this place and I stopped taking it. When I found assholes like me...who quit like that...that's all it took.
My opinion (ain't worth much) is that if you're not Nicotine Free, this is not your place.
This site is for no-shit white knuckle cold turkey quitters. As far as I have seen.
C'mon back when you're off the patch. The patch just prolongs the inevitable.
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This debate is far from new...
index.php?showtopic=2072 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2072)
Ready runs like hell after knocking down the hornets nest
Wow...quitnow is the douchiest of douchebags...WFT!!!
Skoal Monster = my hero
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Just so all of you know I haven't posted roll call and won't until the day that I am fully nicotine free. I also understand that most people here have quit cold turkey and I have tryed that but apparently it didn't work and I am here asking for support not a lot of assholes that are pissed off because I am using a step down approch to it.
I haven't had tabbaco for three days now and thoughs who have quit cold turkey don't know that the urge for wanting to put a dip in your mouth is still there the mental aspect of quitting is still in my head.
I do not plan on using the patch forever hell not even as long as it says to use it. I am going to stop usin it in two weeks so for all the non supporters that this sight isnt supposed to have this is for you 'Finger' .
For everyone else that has shown me supp support THANK YOU and I do hope to keep you updated and show you that I can stop nic and dip.
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Just so all of you know I haven't posted roll call and won't until the day that I am fully nicotine free. I also understand that most people here have quit cold turkey and I have tryed that but apparently it didn't work and I am here asking for support not a lot of assholes that are pissed off because I am using a step down approch to it.
I haven't had tabbaco for three days now and thoughs who have quit cold turkey don't know that the urge for wanting to put a dip in your mouth is still there the mental aspect of quitting is still in my head.
I do not plan on using the patch forever hell not even as long as it says to use it. I am going to stop usin it in two weeks so for all the non supporters that this sight isnt supposed to have this is for you 'Finger' .
For everyone else that has shown me supp support THANK YOU and I do hope to keep you updated and show you that I can stop nic and dip.
It is your quit......look forward to you joining roll call when you are nic-free.
Speaking from experience of trying everything over the past 30 years.....
Posting roll first thing each morning, committing that today...i will not give in to my addiction...under any circumstances....standing shoulder to shoulder fighting the same battle as brothers i have come to love and respect, realizing they have my back and vice versa, getting involved with others quits and building some of the greatest friendships with folks i've never met.....
this works....every single day for 954 days in a row.
We're not going anywhere.....when you get ready to drink the kool-aide and join our merry band....post roll.
It matters greatly.....and will change the way you approach quitting if you invest enough to truely "get it"
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Just so all of you know I haven't posted roll call and won't until the day that I am fully nicotine free. I also understand that most people here have quit cold turkey and I have tryed that but apparently it didn't work and I am here asking for support not a lot of assholes that are pissed off because I am using a step down approch to it.
  I haven't had tabbaco for three days now and thoughs who have quit cold turkey don't know that the urge for wanting to put a dip in your mouth is still there the mental aspect of quitting is still in my head.
  I do not plan on using the patch forever hell not even as long as it says to use it. I am going to stop usin it in two weeks so for all the non supporters that this sight isnt supposed to have this is for you 'Finger' .
  For everyone else that has shown me supp support THANK YOU and I do hope to keep you updated and show you that I can stop nic and dip.
It is your quit......look forward to you joining roll call when you are nic-free.
Speaking from experience of trying everything over the past 30 years.....
Posting roll first thing each morning, committing that today...i will not give in to my addiction...under any circumstances....standing shoulder to shoulder fighting the same battle as brothers i have come to love and respect, realizing they have my back and vice versa, getting involved with others quits and building some of the greatest friendships with folks i've never met.....
this works....every single day for 954 days in a row.
We're not going anywhere.....when you get ready to drink the kool-aide and join our merry band....post roll.
It matters greatly.....and will change the way you approach quitting if you invest enough to truely "get it"
NOBODY is attacking or being a nonsupporter, everyone here is trying their hardest to get you to quit. Most here quit cold turkey and I know that we all hardcore when it comes to quitting, but we have to be. If any of us put our guard down or have any self doubt....even just a little, it opens up the door for the nic bitch to return to our lives. None of us want that.
Duke, some badass quitters in here giving good advice. Hell you gotta be impressed by how many people responded to you. Make sure you also understand that once you are nic free everyone who has posted in this thread will give you the shirt of his back.
Now you gotta decision to make. Sounds to me like you wanna quit. Why don't you lay out your plan for us. I am curious.
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Bman my plan for quitting nic actually starts now the patch is off. Every place I have put the patch (4) places it has felt like a big charly horse. I haven't really been craving to feel the spot where my dip was in my mouth over the last day ant that is what I have been waiting for over the last few days. I am impressed by all of the resopnces on here and do look forward to posting roll call.
There was one or two that did say this wasn't the site for me because I hadn't quit yet. But when I joined I joined for support trying to quit a few days ago not trying to stay quit. I can say now that I am ready to stay quit and hope that I will get the support to stay quit.
But I can say at 8:05 am 8-13-2010 I quit nic forever and I will keep that promise. I will be memorable being Friday the 13th :D .
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I was just catching up with this thread and wondering if you would return or not. This is one of the better conversations regarding NRT on this site, and its in your intro thread.
Congratulations on the decision to toss your can and the patches. Find your group, post roll, get involved, read everything you can.
I can guarantee you that you will not regret this. Welcome!
'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party'
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Bman my plan for quitting nic actually starts now the patch is off. Every place I have put the patch (4) places it has felt like a big charly horse. I haven't really been craving to feel the spot where my dip was in my mouth over the last day ant that is what I have been waiting for over the last few days. I am impressed by all of the resopnces on here and do look forward to posting roll call.
There was one or two that did say this wasn't the site for me because I hadn't quit yet. But when I joined I joined for support trying to quit a few days ago not trying to stay quit. I can say now that I am ready to stay quit and hope that I will get the support to stay quit.
But I can say at 8:05 am 8-13-2010 I quit nic forever and I will keep that promise. I will be memorable being Friday the 13th :D .
Right on my friend. Congrats on a great decision. These next few days are gonna suck, but battle through it. There are so many resources here....use them. Need a number, just ask. Most importantly, post roll and give your word that you won't use today. All of us make that committment to each other daily. So post up in your group and you can post in mine as well.
November 2010 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3664)
March 2008 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=904)
Remember...this battle isn't a quick or easy one. Just fight todays battles and we will worry about tomorrow when it gets here.
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UHHHH...Who let the dogs out!!!
Way to go, BigDuke! Quit up!!
ahfull - 343 days cold turkey
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There was one or two that did say this wasn't the site for me because I hadn't quit yet. But when I joined I joined for support trying to quit a few days ago not trying to stay quit. I can say now that I am ready to stay quit and hope that I will get the support to stay quit.
BigDuke - I'm glad you are quit and done with the patch. Also keep in mind that debate really wasn't about you, but about the belief system of the site. As others stated, you've been surrounded by support since you first posted in the intro section. You need a number, PM me.
You can already see the magic of this place happening. You've gone from try to quit with a patch, to quit for good no nic mentality.
The quit force is strong in you young jedi
Be ready for the weekend, triggers will hit.
Rob
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I was just catching up with this thread and wondering if you would return or not. This is one of the better conversations regarding NRT on this site, and its in your intro thread.
Congratulations on the decision to toss your can and the patches. Find your group, post roll, get involved, read everything you can.
I can guarantee you that you will not regret this. Welcome!
'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party' 'party'
It's not that easy for a few hard asses to get rid of me my mind was made up when I joined. I am a western slope Coloradan livin in Ohio makin a living besides farming. I put my mind to that when I turned 21 moved 1500 miles away from family and accomplished it and my mind is set to this so I know I can do it. People might not like the way I have gone about the quit but that is to bad for them I had a plan and when the patches started hurting where I put them on that sped it up that much faster.
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Now that we have all that out of the way, lets make sure you have a plan for the weekend.
Avoid the booze, drink lots of water, get some gum, seeds, get to know of few of your quit brothers, check out live chat, maybe exchange a number or two, and most importantly......stay close to this website.
Its gonna be a bumpy ride, but you'll feel much better come Monday.
Don't be afraid to shout out if you need anything, people here will be tripping over each other to help.
Colorado and Ohio? Must be something in the water........ ;)
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Well that sounds like a great idea getting to know people. I don't drink Redtrain so that won't be an issue. I have touched alcohol in two years and can not wait until I can post that about nic.
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Well that sounds like a great idea getting to know people. I don't drink Redtrain so that won't be an issue. I have touched alcohol in two years and can not wait until I can post that about nic.
Well in that case, you can hang out with these cool dudes too.
index.php?showtopic=93 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=93)
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Bigduke, you've made the best decision you could ever make. You will have a rough road for the next few days but considering what you've already accomplished you can do this as well! You have got to stay close to the site and post roll call everyday. Get phone numbers, if you can't post roll send a text to a quit buddy and have them post for you. If you want my number, PM me.
I dipped for 15 years before quitting. I mainly used chewing gum and drinking lots of water to help fight my cravings. I also did the occassional mint snuff when I needed it. You can do this, just hang in there because the roller coaster ride is starting but everything will be alright. Welcome aboard!
Dave
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Duke, you have made the RIGHT decision!!!! Endure the pain and get it over with!!! It will be a toughroad but once you are quit, you will NEVER wake up in the morning wishing you had caved!!! 30+ year nic addict here, cold turkey and never want to go back to being a slave to that shit!!! You can DO this, one day at a time!!! You are STRONGER than that can! PM if you need a number and welcome to the suck!
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Your bloodsugar is going to drop like a stone. Drink plenty of juices for the next few days. Also, if you have a woman nearby, make sweet love...like a cave man.
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Bman my plan for quitting nic actually starts now the patch is off. Every place I have put the patch (4) places it has felt like a big charly horse. I haven't really been craving to feel the spot where my dip was in my mouth over the last day ant that is what I have been waiting for over the last few days. I am impressed by all of the resopnces on here and do look forward to posting roll call.
There was one or two that did say this wasn't the site for me because I hadn't quit yet. But when I joined I joined for support trying to quit a few days ago not trying to stay quit. I can say now that I am ready to stay quit and hope that I will get the support to stay quit.
But I can say at 8:05 am 8-13-2010 I quit nic forever and I will keep that promise. I will be memorable being Friday the 13th :D .
FRIDAY THE 13TH, VOLUME XXIX
killkillkillkill.....nicnicnicnic
killkillkillkill.....nicnicnicnic
welcome.
You sound like my kinda guy.....i gots me a bit of a stubborn thang goin as well once i make my mind up bout sumpin....
post roll...first thing...every morning....never miss...never compromise....for any reason.
realize posting roll is the same as shaking my hand, looking me square in the eyes and giving me your word. I will expect you to keep it. You can expect/require the same from me.
Sing out if i can help you...you WILL get this done.
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Well last nite was my first nite no nic at all. Wasn't that bad because I had to work and it is a tabbaco free factory. When I got off work I cam strait home and went right to bed around 12:30 am. So now I start day two and feeling good about it.
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Well last nite was my first nite no nic at all. Wasn't that bad because I had to work and it is a tabbaco free factory. When I got off work I cam strait home and went right to bed around 12:30 am. So now I start day two and feeling good about it.
gonna be a good day
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Very cranky so far today but that can be expected of a man. Yeah it is gonna be a good day. Gonna be a hot day also be inside tryin to stay cool.
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Day two is about over hasn't been very fun at all. I went and got ten packs of doublemint gum a lot of big red gum.
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Welcome to the suck Duke. It is called the suck for a reason..But you are doing great...get some gum, seeds, fake snuff (available at some wal-marts and tobacco speciality stores amoung other places). Stay close to the site. Live Chat is a good place to be if you are in need of someone to talk you off a ledge. Another cuple of days and it gets better. We have all been through what you are going through right now...If we can then so can you...we will help...if you need a number pm me and i will send you mine...Failure is notan option
MOA
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Hey mule thanks for supportin my quite been a good day so far not to many cravings so far tonite and finally rained up here to cool shit down a little. roll call will be bright and early around five or six in the morning so I can go and get food for the week after that. anyway thanks again for the support and great job on your quite a few years I will be at that many days
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Hey mule thanks for supportin my quite been a good day so far not to many cravings so far tonite and finally rained up here to cool shit down a little. roll call will be bright and early around five or six in the morning so I can go and get food for the week after that. anyway thanks again for the support and great job on your quite a few years I will be at that many days
i'll post up with you again in the morning......i give you my word sir.
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Day three of my quit is finally here. What should I be getting ready for today? Yesterday wasn't that fun had a lot of cravings and read that day three is even worse than day two.
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Day three of my quit is finally here. What should I be getting ready for today? Yesterday wasn't that fun had a lot of cravings and read that day three is even worse than day two.
Day three is the last day of the suck. After today, most of the nic is outta your system....specially if you have been drinking lots of "non-alchoholic" fluids. I drank a gallon of cranberry juice my first 3 days....makes you piss like a racehorse, but good at cleansing out your system.
After today, it really becomes a mind thang. Read, Read, Read and read some more. We got a lil' bit of everything here. HOF speeches, good quitting info, what to expect, go thru some older threads and watch grown men act like lil bitty girls.....read thru wild card, we even have a titty hid here or there for your viewing pleasure and to keep you mind occupied.
It really does get better after today......you have 2 huge victories in 2 days.....they were hard won.....do not give them back....ever.
Today is your last day 3. Congratulations.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
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Well mule day three hasn't been bad at all again today. It was better then day two was just had to have a lot of gum and gatoraid. Stayed nice and busy mowed two yards, got food for the week at walmart, washed all clothes, an done the dishes. Other than that not a whole lot else is happening.
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Well mule day three hasn't been bad at all again today. It was better then day two was just had to have a lot of gum and gatoraid. Stayed nice and busy mowed two yards, got food for the week at walmart, washed all clothes, an done the dishes. Other than that not a whole lot else is happening.
Keep up the good work duke
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Well mule day three hasn't been bad at all again today. It was better then day two was just had to have a lot of gum and gatoraid. Stayed nice and busy mowed two yards, got food for the week at walmart, washed all clothes, an done the dishes. Other than that not a whole lot else is happening.
Keep up the good work duke
Enjoy all of the good days you get early on. Us them to study up on the site and rest. There will be bad days ahead. Just remember how good this feels and think about how nice it is going to be when you feel great every day. Each day gets better.
STAY QUIT
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Well day four of the quit is here. Day three was ok glad to have it done and over with. Had about five cravings yesterday but found plenty of ways to keep my self occupied when they hit. have got more sleep in the last couple of days than I ever thought that I would be getting. Hell I can't ride passenger in a vehicle with out shutting my eyes and waiting for the craving to end and not fall asleep.
Today is going to be any easy day for me on my journey to hit 950+ days like mule21. I think he is the person that I look up to the most on here seems like a great person but then most all seem like great people. I would like to thank you all and sorry if I did get a little offensive about the patch and I would like to take back my 'Finger' I was just being an asshole and I am sorry for that. I know most all you guys that tryed to advice me off of the patch have many more years dealing with this than I do and I respect all of you.
Have a good day time to get some sleep so that second shift doesnt kick my ass tonite talk to you all late and keep up the good fight against the quit
Dan
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Today is going to be any easy day for me on my journey to hit 950+ days like mule21. I think he is the person that I look up to the most on here seems like a great person but then most all seem like great people.
I tought him everything he knows! :)
Keep your guard up, Day 4 was the toughest day of my quit.
Don't be sorry for being an asshole. Better to be one in here around us that are used to it.
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    Today is going to be any easy day for me on my journey to hit 950+ days like mule21. I think he is the person that I look up to the most on here seems like a great person but then most all seem like great people.
I tought him everything he knows! :)
Keep your guard up, Day 4 was the toughest day of my quit.
Don't be sorry for being an asshole. Better to be one in here around us that are used to it.
Just another quitter up in here that couldn't get-er-done by myself. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other....build a strong foundation here and in your group.
Ole mule'll let you in on a little secret.......you are helping me stay quit today just as much as I am you. That's what this place is all about.....keeping a bunch of conniving, justifying, procrastinatin, self-destructive, addicted idjets on the straight and narrow by utilizing integrity and accountability.
Today...we have posted roll....no way, no how i break my word. It would dishonor those that gave a shit bout me and took an interest in helping me, it would adversely affect those i have tried to pass it on to....and it would give victory to UST.
It just ain't worth it.
Congrats on bustin thru the suck.....now, it is a mind thang. 'Crazy'
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I think the hardest part about my quit has to be family members not beleiving that I can do it. I have an uncle that smokes and has smoked for many years and he says there is no way that I can do it. He is not a strong and determened man that could ever quit cigs he has tryed but he won't do it no matter how hard you try to get him to.
People that are weak mined like him don't want you to do it and quit. They want you to keep killing yourself with them not knowwing that you or I would offer to help them in any way that we can if they would just take the help.
My uncle told me this morning as a matter of a fact " I know that you haven't Quit because you have been to calm." He doesn't know about this great site and the people on here helping me get through it day by day.
Mentally I can do this because every morning i get on here and post up so that all my brothers and peers know that I am with them in this fight for the rest of our lives. Anyway so for rambling on just blabbing befor heading to work.
Dan
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I think the hardest part about my quit has to be family members not beleiving that I can do it. I have an uncle that smokes and has smoked for many years and he says there is no way that I can do it. He is not a strong and determened man that could ever quit cigs he has tryed but he won't do it no matter how hard you try to get him to.
People that are weak mined like him don't want you to do it and quit. They want you to keep killing yourself with them not knowwing that you or I would offer to help them in any way that we can if they would just take the help.
My uncle told me this morning as a matter of a fact " I know that you haven't Quit because you have been to calm." He doesn't know about this great site and the people on here helping me get through it day by day.
Mentally I can do this because every morning i get on here and post up so that all my brothers and peers know that I am with them in this fight for the rest of our lives. Anyway so for rambling on just blabbing befor heading to work.
Dan
Mr. Duke:
Your uncle is pretty much just like every other active nicotine addict. He wishes he could quit, but he's resolved for himself that he can't. The fact that you're quit is just too mindblowing form him to grasp. AND worse yet, it reminds him of how weak he is. When you quit, he lost a fellow user, and that hurts him.
Keep up the good work, and be grateful that you're not in your uncle's shoes anymore.
...theo
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Thanks Theo for the support I really appreciate it. And the thing with my uncle not being very supportive is the fact that last summer we both tried to stop nic use together. The docs told him to quit and I said I would quit with and for him. We caved aroung the same time. He went first and then pissed me off and I caved with him.
This go around though I am mainly quitting for me. Not for anyone else this time but for myself. I have mor support then I ever have had and am very humbled by how they treat me on here and tell them thanks everyday. I have other family well some that are not legal family yet (my brothers girlfriend) that help a lot to.
Anyway thanks for the support keep up the fight
Dan
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Thanks Theo for the support I really appreciate it. And the thing with my uncle not being very supportive is the fact that last summer we both tried to stop nic use together. The docs told him to quit and I said I would quit with and for him. We caved aroung the same time. He went first and then pissed me off and I caved with him.
  This go around though I am mainly quitting for me. Not for anyone else this time but for myself. I have mor support then I ever have had and am very humbled by how they treat me on here and tell them thanks everyday. I have other family well some that are not legal family yet (my brothers girlfriend) that help a lot to.
Anyway thanks for the support keep up the fight
Dan
Here's a "nugget".....
While i would stop a bullet for my wife or kids....gladly and without any hesitation...
I would not stop dipping Copenhagen for them.....I committed slow suicide for almost 30 years. I tried and failed time and again.....until i found this site.
Here's what made the difference for me.....
I realized i was not alone....i was not the only doomass that got sold a bill of goods by UST. I realized there was a lot of folks that struggled with this addiction and had/were stood/standing in my shoes.....and they truly "got it".
I couldn't stop chewing for my family.....but i will stop for Buckfever36, Jpine, LooT, Quittintime, Chewie, Remshot, Ldiddy, Skoalmonster, Rockymountainman, Ready, Bman, Fal....(and the list goes on and on)....most of whom i've never met and will prolly never meet.
I know they have looked the same devil in the eye that i do every day......and make the choice to win.
Do this for yourself bro......knowing you have the full strength of every quitter on this site backing you up. Nobody else in your life (family friends etc...) may get this.....and they may try to discourage you and bring you down to thier level....do not allow this to happen.
We got your back.....and expect you to have ours. Don't just "sip" the kool-aide.....
Chug that shit.
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Thanks Theo for the support I really appreciate it. And the thing with my uncle not being very supportive is the fact that last summer we both tried to stop nic use together. The docs told him to quit and I said I would quit with and for him. We caved aroung the same time. He went first and then pissed me off and I caved with him.
   This go around though I am mainly quitting for me. Not for anyone else this time but for myself. I have mor support then I ever have had and am very humbled by how they treat me on here and tell them thanks everyday. I have other family well some that are not legal family yet (my brothers girlfriend) that help a lot to.
Anyway thanks for the support keep up the fight
Dan
Here's a "nugget".....
While i would stop a bullet for my wife or kids....gladly and without any hesitation...
I would not stop dipping Copenhagen for them.....I committed slow suicide for almost 30 years. I tried and failed time and again.....until i found this site.
Here's what made the difference for me.....
I realized i was not alone....i was not the only doomass that got sold a bill of goods by UST. I realized there was a lot of folks that struggled with this addiction and had/were stood/standing in my shoes.....and they truly "got it".
I couldn't stop chewing for my family.....but i will stop for Buckfever36, Jpine, LooT, Quittintime, Chewie, Remshot, Ldiddy, Skoalmonster, Rockymountainman, Ready, Bman, Fal....(and the list goes on and on)....most of whom i've never met and will prolly never meet.
I know they have looked the same devil in the eye that i do every day......and make the choice to win.
Do this for yourself bro......knowing you have the full strength of every quitter on this site backing you up. Nobody else in your life (family friends etc...) may get this.....and they may try to discourage you and bring you down to thier level....do not allow this to happen.
We got your back.....and expect you to have ours. Don't just "sip" the kool-aide.....
Chug that shit.
'clap'
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Hey Mule or anyone else reading this why do some people crave a lot more than others. I know when I tryed to quit a few years back I couldn't go no time without craving. But for some reason this time around I haven't had that many cravings at all. Could it be because I was thinking of quitting everyday for the last three months and finally done it last week with support from ya all?
Just can't understand why so many people in here with the support that they have can't get a grip on quitting. Hell it only took two days of saying that I was using the patch and you all had me quit that and go nic free.
Are people so weak minded that they can't see that we are all here to support them even a newbie like myself I am always around to listin might not be able to give the best advice but still willing to try.
If anyone needs someone to talk to just pm me always answer emails back. I don't like talking on the phone but always answer emails back. If any of my Nov bros or sisters need an ear to listin just let me know. I have read that we have a lot of cavers in my group lets try and stop that and get back on track.
Dan
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Hey Mule or anyone else reading this why do some people crave a lot more than others. I know when I tryed to quit a few years back I couldn't go no time without craving. But for some reason this time around I haven't had that many cravings at all. Could it be because I was thinking of quitting everyday for the last three months and finally done it last week with support from ya all?
Just can't understand why so many people in here with the support that they have can't get a grip on quitting. Hell it only took two days of saying that I was using the patch and you all had me quit that and go nic free.
Are people so weak minded that they can't see that we are all here to support them even a newbie like myself I am always around to listin might not be able to give the best advice but still willing to try.
If anyone needs someone to talk to just pm me always answer emails back. I don't like talking on the phone but always answer emails back. If any of my Nov bros or sisters need an ear to listin just let me know. I have read that we have a lot of cavers in my group lets try and stop that and get back on track.
Dan
Good post. You need to post thots like this in your group as well. Here's a word of caution....
you will go thru peaks and valleys. There will be times when, yeah, this is easy.
There will be other times when you will have what you believe to be the worst case of the "dontgivashits" known to man.
They are all just phases. REALIZE the addiction (nic bitch) is and will always be there.....this site will teach you how to deal with her, but make no mistake....she will always be there waiting to "win" you back over.
The number one cause of caving on this site is complacency. If you post roll every morning, buy into it's sacredness, never forget how hard fought every victory is, determine that once a day is won, you will not give it back.....ever.....then complacency will be kept at bay. There will come a time when you will think you are cured and there will be days when you don't even think about it. I'm there.....but for me, posting roll is still something i must do....it just takes it off the table....and allows me to truly say....Today, I am Quit.
Again, the site will give you the tools.....it is up to you to individually use them every day.
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Well to day will mark day 11 for me and I have been trying to make some good friends along the way. Been ok on the craving so far day 8 and 9 was kinda hard but made it through them. Had a pissing match with gator last week but think I came out of that one with a friend, so never be afraid to tell people what you think. In the end we are all here for the same reason and if we all understand that then there ain't any reason to hate each other.
Also been trying to get involved with some of the new people below me. proud of Fort and Wilderjjay for making it through their first week end. Keep up the good work boys.
I have also seen a great thing happen over the weekend SOMEONE GOT THERE COMMA good job bman. Mule you are next on my list to hit it. Well I am done just wanted to let people know what was going on with me over the past week.
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Well to day will mark day 11 for me and I have been trying to make some good friends along the way. Been ok on the craving so far day 8 and 9 was kinda hard but made it through them. Had a pissing match with gator last week but think I came out of that one with a friend, so never be afraid to tell people what you think. In the end we are all here for the same reason and if we all understand that then there ain't any reason to hate each other.
Also been trying to get involved with some of the new people below me. proud of Fort and Wilderjjay for making it through their first week end. Keep up the good work boys.
I have also seen a great thing happen over the weekend SOMEONE GOT THERE COMMA good job bman. Mule you are next on my list to hit it. Well I am done just wanted to let people know what was going on with me over the past week.
Duke its all a mind game from here on out. Just stay focused and keep setting 'em up and knocking 'em down.
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Well there is that damned header ( trying to quit using the patch) again. Figure I will update and let people know how much I appreciate their support and how my quit is going. I have seen April of 08 hit there commas great job. Been supporting May of 08 on their way to 1000. I am supporting a very bad ass quitter in December named Emily. In my group of shitbags I have some real good support from my quit bros.
Now on the flip side I am on day 57 and the blahs are kicking in. It feels a lot like day 3. Can't hardly sleep, on edge really bad lately. Haven't really been physically craving more mentally. This sucks but I know that I will get through it with the help of great people around me.
There will be no caving and no turning back. This is my quit and I am going to stay quit no matter how bad these damn blahs hit.
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Well there is that damned header ( trying to quit using the patch) again. Figure I will update and let people know how much I appreciate their support and how my quit is going. I have seen April of 08 hit there commas great job. Been supporting May of 08 on their way to 1000. I am supporting a very bad ass quitter in December named Emily. In my group of shitbags I have some real good support from my quit bros.
Now on the flip side I am on day 57 and the blahs are kicking in. It feels a lot like day 3. Can't hardly sleep, on edge really bad lately. Haven't really been physically craving more mentally. This sucks but I know that I will get through it with the help of great people around me.
There will be no caving and no turning back. This is my quit and I am going to stay quit no matter how bad these damn blahs hit.
nice work, and the blahs or the funk are normal and suck balls many times but they get shorter and come less often, just a rhetorical question, didn't we get the blahs or go through funky periods when we used? maybe it is some come of natural body rhythm we have masked or covered by using nicotine
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Some damn fine quitting in here duke.
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Well there is that damned header ( trying to quit using the patch) again. Figure I will update and let people know how much I appreciate their support and how my quit is going. I have seen April of 08 hit there commas great job. Been supporting May of 08 on their way to 1000. I am supporting a very bad ass quitter in December named Emily. In my group of shitbags I have some real good support from my quit bros.
Now on the flip side I am on day 57 and the blahs are kicking in. It feels a lot like day 3. Can't hardly sleep, on edge really bad lately. Haven't really been physically craving more mentally. This sucks but I know that I will get through it with the help of great people around me.
There will be no caving and no turning back. This is my quit and I am going to stay quit no matter how bad these damn blahs hit.
WHo would have thunk it? Right BD? What progress we have all made banding up as brothers. Thanks for all the support - keep hacking the legs off that miserable nick bitch one day at a time. WE are HOF bound.