KillTheCan.org Accountability Forum
Community => Introductions => Topic started by: isaac on April 01, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
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Hello everyone. I have found your community helpful today. I pull it up on my iphone.. read a couple of things. Helps me on some of the rough times.
38yo dipping since i was in college. Skoal Man came to my Fraternity every Monday. As many bricks as we wanted, no charge. That's 20 years now.
I am a successful dipper. Not too many people know about it. I have my ways, I'm sure you can relate. My family doesn't see it. I own my own company. My employees know when to not come in and bother me during the day. They know not to talk to my wife or kids about it. It's a silent agreement. I've been a very good manipulator, to keep my can with me.
I'm a dipper, 1-2 cans a day. Straight Longcut. My peaceful place.
Saturday was the first full day that I can remember that I didn't have nicotine. I have failed at every attempt to quit within hours.
Could not handle it last night. Had half a can.
So far so good today. Not a pinch. No celebrating though. I feel like crap. Just hope I can fall asleep and get this day over.
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Click on the pink welcome center link in the banner above. Do what it says. welcome.
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So do you want to "try to quit" or do you want to quit? If you have the balls then throw the can away and start posting roll. If you just came here to tell us what a failure you have been in the past, then your work here is done. I dipped for 30 years and have been quit for 800+ days by following the lead of some great quitters here. If you really want to quit, I mean really really want to quit, we can help you.
Ball is in your court buttercup.
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You'll have to excuse me. I haven't read through your entire organization's material. If there are rules and common practices I might have missed it. I only found this place last night when I was pissed I dipped again.
I clicked the link. I'm not sure where you are directing me to. I see a link to buy what looks like poker chips. I assume you buy these when you reach certain milestones.
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You'll have to excuse me. I haven't read through your entire organization's material. If there are rules and common practices I might have missed it. I only found this place last night when I was pissed I dipped again.
I clicked the link. I'm not sure where you are directing me to. I see a link to buy what looks like poker chips. I assume you buy these when you reach certain milestones.
It's not pink. Pink is for milestone chips. I think somebody described it as salmon colored and it's on the upper left side of the screen. It says "Welcome Center." Click there and read each post. If you need help, PM me or any other person on this site. We'll help.
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And don't get pissed off. Think about it this way. When you're dipping, you're actually doing nothing but spitting. You're doing NOTHING. Whatever you're doing while you're dipping is something. Dipping is actually nothing. It's kind of like drinking. You're only renting dip for a little while. You can spit with dog vomit in your cheek and it's much cheaper.
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Sorry... I see now. had not reviewed that link thank you i did not see it.
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Sorry... I see now. had not reviewed that link thank you i did not see it.
Post roll, make your promise and keep your word. It's as simple as that. As a 40 year addict I can promise you if you want to be quit you can do it today and repeat it tomorrow. 100% commitment is required or the bitch will win!
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Sorry... I see now. had not reviewed that link thank you i did not see it.
Post roll, make your promise and keep your word. It's as simple as that. As a 40 year addict I can promise you if you want to be quit you can do it today and repeat it tomorrow. 100% commitment is required or the bitch will win!
post roll. keep your word for today. don't worry about tomorrow.
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I can't seem to get past your first steps. I have been looking for 30 minutes. I'm not sure why I can't figure this out. I'm stuck on step one. I don't know where this "roll call" is.
"1. Login, go to your quit page" - haven't figured out what a quit page is or where it is. A form? A specific forum? I'm lost
"Step 1 - find the last roll call" I can't find it.
Why am I missing this?
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I can't seem to get past your first steps. I have been looking for 30 minutes. I'm not sure why I can't figure this out. I'm stuck on step one. I don't know where this "roll call" is.
"1. Login, go to your quit page" - haven't figured out what a quit page is or where it is. A form? A specific forum? I'm lost
"Step 1 - find the last roll call" I can't find it.
Why am I missing this?
Hi Isaac, You would be part of the July group and you would go here to post roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025). You can find this by going to quit groups on the main forum page. Once you are there scroll almost all the way to the bottom and find the July Pre-HOF class. That is where you will post roll. It is a process, but you will get the hang of it. It all gets way better. Give a shout if you need anything else.
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OK gave it a shot I think I did it right. Sorry for the hand-holding.
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OK gave it a shot I think I did it right. Sorry for the hand-holding.
Isaac, you got it close bro. No worries fucking up roll is a right of passage. Fuck up roll just don't fuck up your quit.
Your foggy and pissy, but there are a few thousand of us here that have your back.
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OK gave it a shot I think I did it right. Sorry for the hand-holding.
Isaac, you got it close bro. No worries fucking up roll is a right of passage. Fuck up roll just don't fuck up your quit.
Your foggy and pissy, but there are a few thousand of us here that have your back.
You did fine... the simple mistake was noticed and it's expected, your on the books and your pledge has been made. When you make the easy mistake of messing up roll, we see it and take note of your effort to own this quit! If you need anything, PM me!
I quit with you!
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Way to go man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just remember, think in terms of 24hrs. If you have to break it down into 12 hr increments. "I will not dip until noon!" , "I will not get up at midnight and take a dip".
If you have to, take it one hour at a time. Think of each passing hour as a small victory over nicotine.
YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OK gave it a shot I think I did it right. Sorry for the hand-holding.
Isaac, you got it close bro. No worries fucking up roll is a right of passage. Fuck up roll just don't fuck up your quit.
Your foggy and pissy, but there are a few thousand of us here that have your back.
You did fine... the simple mistake was noticed and it's expected, your on the books and your pledge has been made. When you make the easy mistake of messing up roll, we see it and take note of your effort to own this quit! If you need anything, PM me!
I quit with you!
Good Job...Welcome to the most bad ass group you could ever be involved with... everyone here has been or is going through the same things you are so dont be a pussy... we all do this together... one day at a time.
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Welcome Isaac. I to was a 30+ year "ninja" dipper. Hid it from darn near everyone I loved. Now 306 days quit I realize what I was missing out on. It's great to be free from the tobacco but I will always be an addict. This brotherhood helps me to keep my word and keep the nicotine bitch at bay. I am quit with you!
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Still ok. Found some Hydrocodone. I'm not a pill kinda of guy at all but told the fam i wasn't feeling well, went upstairs and took one, put on the fishing channel. Thinking in my head was I want to go to sleep, this will help. Had to leave work early today.
It's not just dipping though, would smoke cigs to get in between the can. Haven't had a smoke either. FYI
You know you do something for so long you don't know what life is outside of that. I don't remember what life is like without the can? What do you do with yourself? How do you relax? How do you take a shit? How do you release stress? What do you take when you're anxious? How do you watch sports?
I'm going to have to figure something else out.
Just want to stop being a liar and a fuckup.
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Still ok. Found some Hydrocodone. I'm not a pill kinda of guy at all but told the fam i wasn't feeling well, went upstairs and took one, put on the fishing channel. Thinking in my head was I want to go to sleep, this will help. Had to leave work early today.
It's not just dipping though, would smoke cigs to get in between the can. Haven't had a smoke either. FYI
You know you do something for so long you don't know what life is outside of that. I don't remember what life is like without the can? What do you do with yourself? How do you relax? How do you take a shit? How do you release stress? What do you take when you're anxious? How do you watch sports?
I'm going to have to figure something else out.
Just want to stop being a liar and a fuckup.
You are well on your way. Those things will all seem normal to you in due time. It takes exactly that, time.
Keep up the good work.
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Isaac, NO Fucking nicotine. Period. No cigs, no chew, no gum, no patch. And lay off the friggin oxy. Replacing a nicotine addiction with an opiate addiction isn't going to help you much.
You gotta grit your teeth an accept the withdrawal symptoms. The only way out is through.
Sm
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Ugh....I glazed over the oxy.
SM is dead on as usual. No fucking oxy.
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There is no magic trick, Isaac. Just keep your word, get through the day. It can be a bitch. It WILL be a bitch often. But day 13 will be better than day 3. Day 23 better than 13, etc etc. Failing will be the result of a lot of decisions, not accidents or inevitabilities. Stay close to KTC, read to take your mind off the fog. Ask questions in your quit group. Rant, rave, whatever. PS - there are a TON of ex-ninja dippers like yourself on this site. Don't try to ninja-quit, though. Trust me.
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Still ok. Found some Hydrocodone. I'm not a pill kinda of guy at all but told the fam i wasn't feeling well, went upstairs and took one, put on the fishing channel. Thinking in my head was I want to go to sleep, this will help. Had to leave work early today.
It's not just dipping though, would smoke cigs to get in between the can. Haven't had a smoke either. FYI
You know you do something for so long you don't know what life is outside of that. I don't remember what life is like without the can? What do you do with yourself? How do you relax? How do you take a shit? How do you release stress? What do you take when you're anxious? How do you watch sports?
I'm going to have to figure something else out.
Just want to stop being a liar and a fuckup.
I think you need to get your family involved. If you cant tell your wife or family your quit, does that mean your ok if you fail? I shouted my shot from the roof tops. My wife my kids, my friends my priest. Hell I even told the guy behind the counter at the gym, low and behold, about every third day he will ask if I am still quit and for how many days.
Post roll with everyone, make your accountability circle huge.
Just my .02 KKLJINC, quitting with you.
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Still ok. Found some Hydrocodone. I'm not a pill kinda of guy at all but told the fam i wasn't feeling well, went upstairs and took one, put on the fishing channel. Thinking in my head was I want to go to sleep, this will help. Had to leave work early today.
It's not just dipping though, would smoke cigs to get in between the can. Haven't had a smoke either. FYI
You know you do something for so long you don't know what life is outside of that. I don't remember what life is like without the can? What do you do with yourself? How do you relax? How do you take a shit? How do you release stress? What do you take when you're anxious? How do you watch sports?
I'm going to have to figure something else out.
Just want to stop being a liar and a fuckup.
I think you need to get your family involved. If you cant tell your wife or family your quit, does that mean your ok if you fail? I shouted my shot from the roof tops. My wife my kids, my friends my priest. Hell I even told the guy behind the counter at the gym, low and behold, about every third day he will ask if I am still quit and for how many days.
Post roll with everyone, make your accountability circle huge.
Just my .02 KKLJINC, quitting with you.
Are you fucking shitting me! Replacing dip with pills? You are an addict, quit putting drugs in your mouth. Unfucking believable!!!!!!!!
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
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You know you do something for so long you don't know what life is outside of that. I don't remember what life is like without the can? What do you do with yourself? How do you relax? How do you take a shit? How do you release stress? What do you take when you're anxious? How do you watch sports?
Yes i know exactly what you mean, Isaac. I dipped copenhagen for 30 years, bro, I'm on day 88 and I can tell you it gets much much better. Your body will relearn how to do things without chew/nicotine. You just gotta get tough and get thru it. The early days are the worst, but as you can see on this site, it is absolutely possible to do it. Take it one day at a time, or 1 hour at a time if that works better for you. Dont think or worry about anything else right now.
And I would recommend NOT using alcohol or narcotics to get thru the suck. You're just replacing one addictive substance with another. Not a good idea.
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OK OK I hear you.
I posted roll today. I see it was modified. I deserve that.
I'll make it today you'll hear good news from me this time tomorrow.
Thx for the ass kick.
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You know you do something for so long you don't know what life is outside of that. I don't remember what life is like without the can? What do you do with yourself? How do you relax? How do you take a shit? How do you release stress? What do you take when you're anxious? How do you watch sports?
Yes i know exactly what you mean, Isaac. I dipped copenhagen for 30 years, bro, I'm on day 88 and I can tell you it gets much much better. Your body will relearn how to do things without chew/nicotine. You just gotta get tough and get thru it. The early days are the worst, but as you can see on this site, it is absolutely possible to do it. Take it one day at a time, or 1 hour at a time if that works better for you. Dont think or worry about anything else right now.
And I would recommend NOT using alcohol or narcotics to get thru the suck. You're just replacing one addictive substance with another. Not a good idea.
well done. You will find alot of us on here where when we quit it was a whole new ballgame. I mean for me, I started dipping at 18, did it for 23+ years, so I had no idea as an adult how to live life without it. But I learned as I went and with some great support here.
So a few of your answers - *disclaimer - some serious but will let you decide:
What do you do with yourself? picked up hobbies, (right now its leatherworking and paracord projects) but people say to keep yourself busy
How do you relax? wife was also so proud she provided some entertainment if no wife am sure there are a lot of numbers out there, or maybe polly palmster and her 5 sisters....
How do you take a shit? lots of bran, apple and cranberry juice along with water just keep inputting it and it will flow
How do you release stress? see relaxing above....also working out like a madman, or jumping into live chat and cussin up a storm
What do you take when you're anxious? am gonna leave this one as some may say a long piece of salami
How do you watch sports? through my eyes, and sometimes ears when on the radio
you got this, stay an even keel and you will be able to maintain this quit every day as you post up +1
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You know you do something for so long you don't know what life is outside of that. I don't remember what life is like without the can? What do you do with yourself? How do you relax? How do you take a shit? How do you release stress? What do you take when you're anxious? How do you watch sports?
Yes i know exactly what you mean, Isaac. I dipped copenhagen for 30 years, bro, I'm on day 88 and I can tell you it gets much much better. Your body will relearn how to do things without chew/nicotine. You just gotta get tough and get thru it. The early days are the worst, but as you can see on this site, it is absolutely possible to do it. Take it one day at a time, or 1 hour at a time if that works better for you. Dont think or worry about anything else right now.
And I would recommend NOT using alcohol or narcotics to get thru the suck. You're just replacing one addictive substance with another. Not a good idea.
well done. You will find alot of us on here where when we quit it was a whole new ballgame. I mean for me, I started dipping at 18, did it for 23+ years, so I had no idea as an adult how to live life without it. But I learned as I went and with some great support here.
So a few of your answers - *disclaimer - some serious but will let you decide:
What do you do with yourself? picked up hobbies, (right now its leatherworking and paracord projects) but people say to keep yourself busy
How do you relax? wife was also so proud she provided some entertainment if no wife am sure there are a lot of numbers out there, or maybe polly palmster and her 5 sisters....
How do you take a shit? lots of bran, apple and cranberry juice along with water just keep inputting it and it will flow
How do you release stress? see relaxing above....also working out like a madman, or jumping into live chat and cussin up a storm
What do you take when you're anxious? am gonna leave this one as some may say a long piece of salami
How do you watch sports? through my eyes, and sometimes ears when on the radio
you got this, stay an even keel and you will be able to maintain this quit every day as you post up +1
Hey isaac. Been catching up on all the problems you've had the last couple. First of all glad to see your taking your life back. As your finding out it hasn't been your life for a while. Your life had been ruled by the can. I also read where you decided to pop a peal. Listen man,,, Take your life back,,,,, no nicotine, drugs, alcohol, no nothing for a while. Give it two weeks, one day at a time and see how good you feel. You will be so surprised. I'm not saying that everything will be all fixed in two weeks but you will be amazed at how different you feel. TAKE YOUR LIFE BACK!!!!!! I've been quit for 48 days and I can't believe all I was missing out on because of the nicotine. I had a lipper in since the age of 16 and i'm 44 now. Do the math,,, If I can do it you can.
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Fucked up. Took another pill to get over the nic addiction. Listen. I know. I know I know I know. I fuckin' know.
I appreciate the help I have received in your community. But I asked myself a questionÂ….. why have I reached out to this community instead of other avenues?
I do know the answer. Because I am the authority, the husband, the provider, the boss, the paycheck, the father, and the mentor to everyone in my world. I'm the good guy with a very very bad secret. And man I am goodÂ…. if I was to die today, so may people would be surprised when they find out.
I have no friends really. I work. I make $, I spend $, I go back to work. I'm more comfortable talking to you in this chat room then I am talking to anyone else? I don't fucking know maybe I'm reaching out over a computer because I'm desperate.
I'm smart enough to know there is nobody out there that has a magic wand that can save me. Only I can do it.
I'm not sure who started this site, or who manages it, but I would like to thank that individual. This is the first time in my life I have been able to actually spill it out and say, I am an addict of all things. DIP is my #1 love. Alcohol my #2.
I didn't DIP or have a cig today.
I haven't told you the whole story.
I was supposed to have tests this week for "Key Man Insurance." Some of you might know what that is. In my deceitful ways, I got another week out of it to prepare. Investors, VC firms, etc. need to evaluate my health, to manage against it and "insurance" against it. Whatever that means. How I score will dictate how much it will cost these companies to insure my life. Or better way to say it.. how much it will cost them if I die. AlsoÂ… my secret is out!!!!!!!
Isn't it sick this is what I'm talking about, and I have a beautiful wife, a 3yo beautiful and smart little boy, another beautiful 2yo little boy, and I know I have threatened that, but the fact that I face Millions in expenses because of this addiction to DIP and alcohol.
Go ahead. I'm sure some of you guys that have made it clean can rip me apart. I envy you. I wish I knew your secret. Call me whatever you want. Today, yesterday, and the day before, I did not DIP. I need these small wins. This is very big for me. I didn't DIP today. I'm going to try and not DIP tomorrow, and not take a pill tomorrow.
It's like one foot in front of another.
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I wish I knew your secret.
I will be happy to ell you my secret...the way I quit.
I made a conscious/concerted/firm decision each and every single day not to put that shit in my mouth.
There is no ninja dip. A pinch is not going to magically jump it your mouth. No stealth form of nicotine exists. You and only you make the decision to use it.
I quit by not putting it in my mouth. That simple. Hard as hell; trust me I know. But it can be done.
Don't try tomorrow. Do tomorrow.
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Fucked up. Took another pill to get over the nic addiction. Listen. I know. I know I know I know. I fuckin' know.
I appreciate the help I have received in your community. But I asked myself a questionÂ….. why have I reached out to this community instead of other avenues?
I do know the answer. Because I am the authority, the husband, the provider, the boss, the paycheck, the father, and the mentor to everyone in my world. I'm the good guy with a very very bad secret. And man I am goodÂ…. if I was to die today, so may people would be surprised when they find out.
I have no friends. I work. I make a lot of $$, I spend $$, I go back to work. I'm more comfortable talking to you in this chat room then I am talking to anyone else? I don't fucking know maybe I'm reaching out over a computer because I'm desperate.
I'm smart enough to know there is nobody out there that has a magic wand that can save me. Only I can do it.
I'm not sure who started this site, or who manages it, but I would like to thank that individual. This is the first time in my life I have been able to actually spill it out and say, I am an addict of all things. DIP is my #1 love. Alcohol my #2.
I didn't DIP or have a cig today. I took 2 OXYs.
I have't told you the whole story.
I was supposed to have tests this week for "Key Man Insurance."Â Some of you might know what that is. In my deceitful ways, I got another week out of it to prepare. Investors, VC firms, etc. need to evaluate my health, to manage against it and "insurance" against it. Whatever that means. How I score will dictate how much it will cost these companies to insure my life. Or better way to say it.. how much it will cost them if I die. AlsoÂ… my secret is out!!!!!!!
Isn't it sick this is what I'm talking about, and I have a beautiful wife, a 3yo beautiful and smart little boy, another beautiful 2yo little boy, and I know I have threatened that, but the fact that I face Millions in expenses because of this addiction to DIP and alcohol.
Go ahead. I'm sure some of you guys that have made it clean can rip me apart. I envy you. I wish I knew your secret. Call me whatever you want. Today, yesterday, and the day before, I did not DIP. I need these small wins. This is very big for me. I didn't DIP today. I'm going to try and not DIP tomorrow, and not take a pill tomorrow.
It's like one foot in front of another.
I'll be honest you sound like that rich prick ass kid that get's everything they ask for, but doesn't want his toys to be taken away when he Fucks Up. Trading one bad habit for another doesn't solve or eliminate any problems. What you need to be able to do doesn't require any money, it doesn't even really require any outside help. You need to start owning your shit and feeling comfortable in your own skin. I'm not an expert at all but I have to think you have some more issues going on and you are abusing yourself to numb the feelings.Take care man..rinse and repeat...daily.
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jaynellie
I'm your age, please don't call me a kid again. I might be an abuser, but I'm not a prick.
Rich.. earning potential is a LOT different then "rich" I was concerned about bringing that up..... always changes everything.
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jaynellie
I'm your age, please don't call me a kid again. I might be an abuser, but I'm not a prick.
Rich.. earning potential is a LOT different then "rich" I was concerned about bringing that up..... always changes everything.
I guess I'll just assume that pill is so important. Your surrounded by 20 pkus year chewers that just manned the fuck up and quit with no OXY. I have to agree with Jay, get over your earning potential your self righteous shit and quit. Were all important and were all quit regardless, of what our 1099D or 1099I or K2's or W2's say. I quit like fuck, funny I earn like fuck too.
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I think I've gone too far. I'm sorry for taking everyone's time. I obviously have work to do.
I'm a lot of things but I'm not a pill popper. Tonight was my second pill ever. I honestly thought I was trying to treat the symptoms... I actually wikipedia'd hydocodene. I wasn't trying to pick up a new habit. I wanted to treat symptoms.
I was trying to be honest with my comments this evening.
I'm not a prick Jay. I hope I'm not a righteous shit KKL.
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jaynellie
I'm your age, please don't call me a kid again. I might be an abuser, but I'm not a prick.
Rich.. earning potential is a LOT different then "rich" I was concerned about bringing that up..... always changes everything.
I guess I'll just assume that pill is so important. Your surrounded by 20 pkus year chewers that just manned the fuck up and quit with no OXY. I have to agree with Jay, get over your earning potential your self righteous shit and quit. Were all important and were all quit regardless, of what our 1099D or 1099I or K2's or W2's say. I quit like fuck, funny I earn like fuck too.
'crackup' 'crackup'
Can't believe how funny it is to read you 'kids' chatting shit. To me 'rich' has nothing to do with anything monetary! Rich for me this past year has been enjoying my grandkids knowing that I won't get any more questions about what I'm eating! I will make one simple warning. Many of us upon quitting nicotine try to replace it with other addictions. The best replacement for nicotine use is 'honest living' and daily promises!
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I've mismanaged this support group.
I came to your community because dipping is is what I have done since 18yo and I want to quit. I've tried so many times, and failed.
I think I got a little too excited about the group honesty thing that I said some things that I should have left personal.
I have clouded my objective to quit dipping.
I have not had a dip since Sunday.
I should not have taken Hydrocodine yesterday or today
I will not have DIP or any pills tomorrow
Can we delete this forum string? can we remove this from the forum?
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I've mismanaged this support group.
I came to your community because dipping is is what I have done since 18yo and I want to quit. I've tried so many times, and failed.
I think I got a little too excited about the group honesty thing that I said some things that I should have left personal.
I have clouded my objective to quit dipping.
I have not had a dip since Sunday.
I should not have taken Hydrocodine yesterday or today
I will not have DIP or any pills tomorrow
Can we delete this forum string? can we remove this from the forum?
No one is judging you, but be we will be critical. Don't be ashamed, be proud that you put yourself out there! There are many others that are recovering addicts of other substances as well.
If you're concerned about your Hydrocodine use then I would definitely suggest seeing a local group and visiting the "Getting My Act Together" section and posting roll in "Drug Free Zone, Just Say No....".
I have a tremendous amount respect for you putting yourself out there. It's brave!
Again, be proud that you opened yourself up!
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I used getting a molar pulled as my impetus for quitting 32 days ago. They gave me Hydrocodone as a pain reliever for getting the tooth extracted (I didn't really have any pain). I took the pain killers for 4 days (how long they lasted). Right, wrong or indifferent it got me through the worst. Now I'm 32 days nicotine free.
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Alcohol.....rarely drink anymore, but back in the day they used to call me the Egyptian sponge. I was like a sponge that had been in the desert for 15 years and when it gets around liquid it would absorb any moisture in the vicinity.
Not sure how I never became a full blown alcoholic as I drank heavily every day for many years (cases of beer, bottles of booze, you name it...I was always the biggest drinker in any group I hung out with). You know the story. Met the love of my life 10 years ago at age 37 and just stopped for the most part. Now and again I'll have a couple of beers, but that's all I want. When I was drinking I would smoke packs of cigarettes in a sitting sometimes with a dip in also.
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I've mismanaged this support group.
I came to your community because dipping is is what I have done since 18yo and I want to quit. I've tried so many times, and failed.
I think I got a little too excited about the group honesty thing that I said some things that I should have left personal.
I have clouded my objective to quit dipping.
I have not had a dip since Sunday.
I should not have taken Hydrocodine yesterday or today
I will not have DIP or any pills tomorrow
Can we delete this forum string? can we remove this from the forum?
Not a fucking chance. You need to come back and read this often to remind you what an addict will do to get his fix. NEVER forget where you came from or you are bound to go back.
It's all about growth, painful or pain free.
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... I envy you. I wish I knew your secret. Call me whatever you want. Today, yesterday, and the day before, I did not DIP. I need these small wins. This is very big for me. I didn't DIP today. I'm going to try and not DIP tomorrow, and not take a pill tomorrow.
It's like one foot in front of another.
Dude, Listen. LISTEN. Others are trying to tell you something. I'm trying to tell you something. Lean in close...shhh...here it goes.......
There is no secret. And your story is not special. And there are hundreds of others here in your tax bracket, or potential tax bracket.
Outside my wife and older kids, VERY few people knew I went through 3-5 tins of cope every week for well over 20 years. I tried to ninja quit like I ninja dipped. Mis-Freak'in-stake. They need to know what the fuck you are trying to do, and why the hell you are a damned basket case. And I understand the job and insurance thing, but really, big flipping whoop-t-doo. They are adults. THEY know that there is shit other people do that they don't know about. 10:1 says 95% of your team didn't raise an eyebrow.
THERE IS NO SECRET to quitting.
PS - Your wife knows already. Don't sweat it.
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jaynellie
I'm your age, please don't call me a kid again. I might be an abuser, but I'm not a prick.
Rich.. earning potential is a LOT different then "rich" I was concerned about bringing that up..... always changes everything.
Isaac I wasn't calling you a "kid" to be disrespectful in anyway. I know alot of grown ass adults that when life starts getting to heavy and they don't like the direction it is heading they start acting like kids. If you can't come into Intros and dump a thread like that onto a boat load of addicts without expecting some constructive criticism then this is gonna be a long trip.99% of all the people on this site call a spade a spade.I was just trying to make a point that don't try and sugar coat your quit.The first week is called the "Suck" for a reason.Remember this week,embrace this week.Never want to FEEL this way again.Taking a prescription pain killer to deal with the crappy way you are feeling accomplishes shit.I'm glad you are quit,I'm glad I'm quit with you.
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I think I've gone too far. I'm sorry for taking everyone's time. I obviously have work to do.
I'm a lot of things but I'm not a pill popper. Tonight was my second pill ever. I honestly thought I was trying to treat the symptoms... I actually wikipedia'd hydocodene. I wasn't trying to pick up a new habit. I wanted to treat symptoms.
I was trying to be honest with my comments this evening.
I'm not a prick Jay. I hope I'm not a righteous shit KKL.
Isaac, let's just quit brother! I quit with you today! I remember the first days, and I keep that close to me, I want to remember those feelings of the suck, it's motivation to not have to do it again. NAFAR
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Issac, sounds like you are a very level headed guy but you are just using the addict talk to justify your behaviour. It seems that others see your potential, value, and aptitude or else they would not care to insure the "Key Man". Use the traits that make you the "Key Man" and own your quit. There is no secret here!
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I thought I was not going to come back to this site again. I didn't want to see and read the replies I was going to get. I tried to figure out a plan to remove myself from this environment without any trace that I had talked about things I would rather have not talked about. I had deleted all of the links I had bookmarked off of my iphone and laptop. Made sure i was using private emails, etc.
Please if I may give you some perspective.
I can't believe I'm the person out here on a message board that needs help. In my life, in my world, I am a provider and support to everyone around me. It's so uncomfortable for me to be any sort of focus that being the topic of a forum string I started a week ago to get help with my dipping addiction... It has been very awkward. It's like when I was dipping. If nobody knows it doesn't exist. That's what I think right?
Zam,
You are right. I know my wife knows. I'm sure she knows. But she has never said anything. Nobody is Ninja enough. I'm sure it's uncomfortable for her. The position I have put her in... It's unacceptable.
I go to church most Sundays of every month. Going to church is not a magical wand that makes you better, or kill your daemons. There is no.. If I do this... I will get better.
I was freaked out this week and I came to your community to vent. Scared shitless to be honest with you. I already said it so the cat is out of the bag. In my current job others make a lot of $ from me and I'm their investment, and they want to insure me. If I'm honest... I probably wouldn't have come here if this event wasn't coming up. I'm using this testing I have to go through as a motivation to finally get rid of this fucking crappy addiction. I needed an event.
Maybe i needed an event to kick me in the ass and maybe this is just what I needed to get straight.
I have dipped for the last 20 years. Straight Longcut. 2 tins a day. I can pack so much down that I can now put my index finger in my mouth and I can actually reach down and feel down and below my jaw to feel the underside of my jaw. Scares me to death.
I'm not sure what damage I have done that is UN-fixable.
I'm not a pill popper. Monday was bad, my fucking throat was KILLING ME. I asked my wife if we had any pain relievers. I don't have medicine she said look in the cabinet. I found hydocodine prescription from 2010. Didn't know what that actually was but after taking it made the pain go away. I thought it was an antibiotic. Maybe I had strep at the same time I was quitting. I thought "Oxy" was a generic term for antibiotics. That's what I was thinking.
I am a nicotine addict. Probably drink too much, but at least I only drink on weekends.
I'd like to not be scared any more and come back to this forum. I'm sorry for the things I've said. I haven't had a dip since Sunday. It hasn't been "better" each day. Wednesday was worse that Tuesday. Tonight was worse that Wednesday. Even this evening watching ESPN I still had cravings. I hoped that each day gets better but that hasn't been the case.
I really don't like the focus, but If I can plea to this community. I need an outlet. i need some place to to be honest. I need a place where I can say I made it, or I didn't make it.
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I thought I was not going to come back to this site again. I didn't want to see and read the replies I was going to get. I tried to figure out a plan to remove myself from this environment without any trace that I had talked about things I would rather have not talked about. I had deleted all of the links I had bookmarked off of my iphone and laptop. Made sure i was using private emails, etc.
Please if I may give you some perspective.Â
I can't believe I'm the person out here on a message board that needs help. In my life, in my world, I am a provider and support to everyone around me. It's so uncomfortable for me to be any sort of focus that being the topic of a forum string I started a week ago to get help with my dipping addiction... It has been very awkward. It's like when I was dipping. If nobody knows it doesn't exist. That's what I think right?
Zam,
You are right. I know my wife knows. I'm sure she knows. But she has never said anything. Nobody is Ninja enough. I'm sure it's uncomfortable for her. The position I have put her in... It's unacceptable.
I go to church most Sundays of every month. Going to church is not a magical wand that makes you better, or kill your daemons. There is no.. If I do this... I will get better.
I was freaked out this week and I came to your community to vent. Scared shitless to be honest with you. I already said it so the cat is out of the bag. In my current job others make a lot of $ from me and I'm their investment, and they want to insure me. If I'm honest... I probably wouldn't have come here if this event wasn't coming up. I'm using this testing I have to go through as a motivation to finally get rid of this fucking crappy addiction. I needed an event.
Maybe i needed an event to kick me in the ass and maybe this is just what I needed to get straight.
I have dipped for the last 20 years. Straight Longcut. 2 tins a day. I can pack so much down that I can now put my index finger in my mouth and I can actually reach down and feel down and below my jaw to feel the underside of my jaw. Scares me to death.
I'm not sure what damage I have done that is UN-fixable.
I'm not a pill popper. Monday was bad, my fucking throat was KILLING ME. I asked my wife if we had any pain relievers. I don't have medicine she said look in the cabinet. I found hydocodine prescription from 2010. Didn't know what that actually was but after taking it made the pain go away. I thought it was an antibiotic. Maybe I had strep at the same time I was quitting. I thought "Oxy" was a generic term for antibiotics. That's what I was thinking.
I am a nicotine addict. Probably drink too much, but at least I only drink on weekends.
I'd like to not be scared any more and come back to this forum. I'm sorry for the things I've said. I haven't had a dip since Sunday. It hasn't been "better" each day. Wednesday was worse that Tuesday. Tonight was worse that Wednesday. Even this evening watching ESPN I still had cravings. I hoped that each day gets better but that hasn't been the case.
I really don't like the focus, but If I can plea to this community. I need an outlet. i need some place to to be honest. I need a place where I can say I made it, or I didn't make it.
Isaac, just post your promise and honor it every single day.
We just quit here, that's it. No matter what.
Drink copious amounts of water so that you stay hydrated and the headaches will diminish. Exercise will keep your dopamine levels high so you don't feel so off kilter. Trident gum or sunflower seeds will give your mouth something to do while you contemplate your world.
Leave the excuses at the door.
Here's the thing Sir, your reason for being here seems purely monetary. You haven't had enough of the poison or the bondage to quit for you. Your kids aren't quite old enough to be discussed by your disease. Your wife would rather play nicey nice than call you out. Your employees have made it easy for you at work. Your dentists hasn't given you too much shit about the receding gums, tooth decay or legions because of the premium insurance. Your only incentive to quit is to save the share holders a boat load of money, it's not even your money. As soon as you pass the Insurance tests you'll be right back to ninja banging the can. Until you decide that you're done with nicotine, there is no amount of money that will keep you quit.
Most people, myself included will attest that the strength of their cravings diminish daily, becoming less frequent and less intense with each passing day. The control nicotine had over our lives decreases as well. After a couple weeks they are just a nuisance. After a couple of months they are hardly a thing. Be patient, decide that you will make it.
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I thought I was not going to come back to this site again. I didn't want to see and read the replies I was going to get. I tried to figure out a plan to remove myself from this environment without any trace that I had talked about things I would rather have not talked about. I had deleted all of the links I had bookmarked off of my iphone and laptop. Made sure i was using private emails, etc.
Please if I may give you some perspective.Â
I can't believe I'm the person out here on a message board that needs help. In my life, in my world, I am a provider and support to everyone around me. It's so uncomfortable for me to be any sort of focus that being the topic of a forum string I started a week ago to get help with my dipping addiction... It has been very awkward. It's like when I was dipping. If nobody knows it doesn't exist. That's what I think right?
Zam,
You are right. I know my wife knows. I'm sure she knows. But she has never said anything. Nobody is Ninja enough. I'm sure it's uncomfortable for her. The position I have put her in... It's unacceptable.
I go to church most Sundays of every month. Going to church is not a magical wand that makes you better, or kill your daemons. There is no.. If I do this... I will get better.
I was freaked out this week and I came to your community to vent. Scared shitless to be honest with you. I already said it so the cat is out of the bag. In my current job others make a lot of $ from me and I'm their investment, and they want to insure me. If I'm honest... I probably wouldn't have come here if this event wasn't coming up. I'm using this testing I have to go through as a motivation to finally get rid of this fucking crappy addiction. I needed an event.
Maybe i needed an event to kick me in the ass and maybe this is just what I needed to get straight.
I have dipped for the last 20 years. Straight Longcut. 2 tins a day. I can pack so much down that I can now put my index finger in my mouth and I can actually reach down and feel down and below my jaw to feel the underside of my jaw. Scares me to death.
I'm not sure what damage I have done that is UN-fixable.
I'm not a pill popper. Monday was bad, my fucking throat was KILLING ME. I asked my wife if we had any pain relievers. I don't have medicine she said look in the cabinet. I found hydocodine prescription from 2010. Didn't know what that actually was but after taking it made the pain go away. I thought it was an antibiotic. Maybe I had strep at the same time I was quitting. I thought "Oxy" was a generic term for antibiotics. That's what I was thinking.
I am a nicotine addict. Probably drink too much, but at least I only drink on weekends.
I'd like to not be scared any more and come back to this forum. I'm sorry for the things I've said. I haven't had a dip since Sunday. It hasn't been "better" each day. Wednesday was worse that Tuesday. Tonight was worse that Wednesday. Even this evening watching ESPN I still had cravings. I hoped that each day gets better but that hasn't been the case.
I really don't like the focus, but If I can plea to this community. I need an outlet. i need some place to to be honest. I need a place where I can say I made it, or I didn't make it.
Isaac, just post your promise and honor it every single day.
We just quit here, that's it. No matter what.
Drink copious amounts of water so that you stay hydrated and the headaches will diminish. Exercise will keep your dopamine levels high so you don't feel so off kilter. Trident gum or sunflower seeds will give your mouth something to do while you contemplate your world.
Leave the excuses at the door.
Here's the thing Sir, your reason for being here seems purely monetary. You haven't had enough of the poison or the bondage to quit for you. Your kids aren't quite old enough to be discussed by your disease. Your wife would rather play nicey nice than call you out. Your employees have made it easy for you at work. Your dentists hasn't given you too much shit about the receding gums, tooth decay or legions because of the premium insurance. Your only incentive to quit is to save the share holders a boat load of money, it's not even your money. As soon as you pass the Insurance tests you'll be right back to ninja banging the can. Until you decide that you're done with nicotine, there is no amount of money that will keep you quit.
Most people, myself included will attest that the strength of their cravings diminish daily, becoming less frequent and less intense with each passing day. The control nicotine had over our lives decreases as well. After a couple weeks they are just a nuisance. After a couple of months they are hardly a thing. Be patient, decide that you will make it.
Post Roll and lets move on Isaac. Your writing an essay to a bunch of guys that come here to do one thing. Quit nicotine and take they're life back. How about you? If that's what you are doing post roll and make a promise not to use and you have our support. Get some thick skin and be ready because these guys don't pussy foot around. They will tell you how it is. If you say something that gets they're attention you will hear about it. This forum is for people that have quit or quiting the nicotine. They're is a bunch of good people on here that know how to Quit. They also know how to help you quit. LJQLF ( LETS JUST QUIT LIKE FUCK Isaac).
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I thought I was not going to come back to this site again. I didn't want to see and read the replies I was going to get. I tried to figure out a plan to remove myself from this environment without any trace that I had talked about things I would rather have not talked about. I had deleted all of the links I had bookmarked off of my iphone and laptop. Made sure i was using private emails, etc.
Please if I may give you some perspective.Â
I can't believe I'm the person out here on a message board that needs help. In my life, in my world, I am a provider and support to everyone around me. It's so uncomfortable for me to be any sort of focus that being the topic of a forum string I started a week ago to get help with my dipping addiction... It has been very awkward. It's like when I was dipping. If nobody knows it doesn't exist. That's what I think right?
Zam,
You are right. I know my wife knows. I'm sure she knows. But she has never said anything. Nobody is Ninja enough. I'm sure it's uncomfortable for her. The position I have put her in... It's unacceptable.
I go to church most Sundays of every month. Going to church is not a magical wand that makes you better, or kill your daemons. There is no.. If I do this... I will get better.
I was freaked out this week and I came to your community to vent. Scared shitless to be honest with you. I already said it so the cat is out of the bag. In my current job others make a lot of $ from me and I'm their investment, and they want to insure me. If I'm honest... I probably wouldn't have come here if this event wasn't coming up. I'm using this testing I have to go through as a motivation to finally get rid of this fucking crappy addiction. I needed an event.
Maybe i needed an event to kick me in the ass and maybe this is just what I needed to get straight.
I have dipped for the last 20 years. Straight Longcut. 2 tins a day. I can pack so much down that I can now put my index finger in my mouth and I can actually reach down and feel down and below my jaw to feel the underside of my jaw. Scares me to death.
I'm not sure what damage I have done that is UN-fixable.
I'm not a pill popper. Monday was bad, my fucking throat was KILLING ME. I asked my wife if we had any pain relievers. I don't have medicine she said look in the cabinet. I found hydocodine prescription from 2010. Didn't know what that actually was but after taking it made the pain go away. I thought it was an antibiotic. Maybe I had strep at the same time I was quitting. I thought "Oxy" was a generic term for antibiotics. That's what I was thinking.
I am a nicotine addict. Probably drink too much, but at least I only drink on weekends.
I'd like to not be scared any more and come back to this forum. I'm sorry for the things I've said. I haven't had a dip since Sunday. It hasn't been "better" each day. Wednesday was worse that Tuesday. Tonight was worse that Wednesday. Even this evening watching ESPN I still had cravings. I hoped that each day gets better but that hasn't been the case.
I really don't like the focus, but If I can plea to this community. I need an outlet. i need some place to to be honest. I need a place where I can say I made it, or I didn't make it.
Isaac, just post your promise and honor it every single day.
We just quit here, that's it. No matter what.
Drink copious amounts of water so that you stay hydrated and the headaches will diminish. Exercise will keep your dopamine levels high so you don't feel so off kilter. Trident gum or sunflower seeds will give your mouth something to do while you contemplate your world.
Leave the excuses at the door.
Here's the thing Sir, your reason for being here seems purely monetary. You haven't had enough of the poison or the bondage to quit for you. Your kids aren't quite old enough to be discussed by your disease. Your wife would rather play nicey nice than call you out. Your employees have made it easy for you at work. Your dentists hasn't given you too much shit about the receding gums, tooth decay or legions because of the premium insurance. Your only incentive to quit is to save the share holders a boat load of money, it's not even your money. As soon as you pass the Insurance tests you'll be right back to ninja banging the can. Until you decide that you're done with nicotine, there is no amount of money that will keep you quit.
Most people, myself included will attest that the strength of their cravings diminish daily, becoming less frequent and less intense with each passing day. The control nicotine had over our lives decreases as well. After a couple weeks they are just a nuisance. After a couple of months they are hardly a thing. Be patient, decide that you will make it.
Post Roll and lets move on Isaac. Your writing an essay to a bunch of guys that come here to do one thing. Quit nicotine and take they're life back. How about you? If that's what you are doing post roll and make a promise not to use and you have our support. Get some thick skin and be ready because these guys don't pussy foot around. They will tell you how it is. If you say something that gets they're attention you will hear about it. This forum is for people that have quit or quiting the nicotine. They're is a bunch of good people on here that know how to Quit. They also know how to help you quit. LJQLF ( LETS JUST QUIT LIKE FUCK Isaac).
Post roll. Trade your phone number. Check your email - there is my number. It gets better. I will not say what I really want to say right now.......but just get in the fucking game and post roll.
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I thought I was not going to come back to this site again. I didn't want to see and read the replies I was going to get. I tried to figure out a plan to remove myself from this environment without any trace that I had talked about things I would rather have not talked about. I had deleted all of the links I had bookmarked off of my iphone and laptop. Made sure i was using private emails, etc.
Please if I may give you some perspective.Â
I can't believe I'm the person out here on a message board that needs help. In my life, in my world, I am a provider and support to everyone around me. It's so uncomfortable for me to be any sort of focus that being the topic of a forum string I started a week ago to get help with my dipping addiction... It has been very awkward. It's like when I was dipping. If nobody knows it doesn't exist. That's what I think right?
Zam,
You are right. I know my wife knows. I'm sure she knows. But she has never said anything. Nobody is Ninja enough. I'm sure it's uncomfortable for her. The position I have put her in... It's unacceptable.
I go to church most Sundays of every month. Going to church is not a magical wand that makes you better, or kill your daemons. There is no.. If I do this... I will get better.
I was freaked out this week and I came to your community to vent. Scared shitless to be honest with you. I already said it so the cat is out of the bag. In my current job others make a lot of $ from me and I'm their investment, and they want to insure me. If I'm honest... I probably wouldn't have come here if this event wasn't coming up. I'm using this testing I have to go through as a motivation to finally get rid of this fucking crappy addiction. I needed an event.
Maybe i needed an event to kick me in the ass and maybe this is just what I needed to get straight.
I have dipped for the last 20 years. Straight Longcut. 2 tins a day. I can pack so much down that I can now put my index finger in my mouth and I can actually reach down and feel down and below my jaw to feel the underside of my jaw. Scares me to death.
I'm not sure what damage I have done that is UN-fixable.
I'm not a pill popper. Monday was bad, my fucking throat was KILLING ME. I asked my wife if we had any pain relievers. I don't have medicine she said look in the cabinet. I found hydocodine prescription from 2010. Didn't know what that actually was but after taking it made the pain go away. I thought it was an antibiotic. Maybe I had strep at the same time I was quitting. I thought "Oxy" was a generic term for antibiotics. That's what I was thinking.
I am a nicotine addict. Probably drink too much, but at least I only drink on weekends.
I'd like to not be scared any more and come back to this forum. I'm sorry for the things I've said. I haven't had a dip since Sunday. It hasn't been "better" each day. Wednesday was worse that Tuesday. Tonight was worse that Wednesday. Even this evening watching ESPN I still had cravings. I hoped that each day gets better but that hasn't been the case.
I really don't like the focus, but If I can plea to this community. I need an outlet. i need some place to to be honest. I need a place where I can say I made it, or I didn't make it.
Isaac, just post your promise and honor it every single day.
We just quit here, that's it. No matter what.
Drink copious amounts of water so that you stay hydrated and the headaches will diminish. Exercise will keep your dopamine levels high so you don't feel so off kilter. Trident gum or sunflower seeds will give your mouth something to do while you contemplate your world.
Leave the excuses at the door.
Here's the thing Sir, your reason for being here seems purely monetary. You haven't had enough of the poison or the bondage to quit for you. Your kids aren't quite old enough to be discussed by your disease. Your wife would rather play nicey nice than call you out. Your employees have made it easy for you at work. Your dentists hasn't given you too much shit about the receding gums, tooth decay or legions because of the premium insurance. Your only incentive to quit is to save the share holders a boat load of money, it's not even your money. As soon as you pass the Insurance tests you'll be right back to ninja banging the can. Until you decide that you're done with nicotine, there is no amount of money that will keep you quit.
Most people, myself included will attest that the strength of their cravings diminish daily, becoming less frequent and less intense with each passing day. The control nicotine had over our lives decreases as well. After a couple weeks they are just a nuisance. After a couple of months they are hardly a thing. Be patient, decide that you will make it.
Post Roll and lets move on Isaac. Your writing an essay to a bunch of guys that come here to do one thing. Quit nicotine and take they're life back. How about you? If that's what you are doing post roll and make a promise not to use and you have our support. Get some thick skin and be ready because these guys don't pussy foot around. They will tell you how it is. If you say something that gets they're attention you will hear about it. This forum is for people that have quit or quiting the nicotine. They're is a bunch of good people on here that know how to Quit. They also know how to help you quit. LJQLF ( LETS JUST QUIT LIKE FUCK Isaac).
Post roll. Trade your phone number. Check your email - there is my number. It gets better. I will not say what I really want to say right now.......but just get in the fucking game and post roll.
The ball is in your court. We are here to help if you will accept it.
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I'm sorry. I have to start from zero tomorrow.
I know this is sick I have to say it to make it more real.
I don't even have any fresh cans. Found an old cup of old dip and sunflower seeds behind a computer. Dried up, all mixed together, had to sort through the whole mess picking out sunflower seeds. Don't even know how old it is. I'm sure you can imagine the rest.
Watching the final 4 with the legs kicked up and a beer. I collapsed and gave in.
Going to bed.... have to figure out how to start form zero again tomorrow.
Looking through these comments exchanged by me, I look like a fucking ass hole. I don't blame anyone here for calling me the spade a spade. I'm a wreck and talk too much.
I think I have realized one thing. Dipping is my way to "deal." whatever that deal is. Work, money, stress, reality....
I have to figure out a new way to "deal" with it.
My goal tomorrow is to not dip and figure out a new way to deal.
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I'm sorry. I have to start from zero tomorrow.
I know this is sick I have to say it to make it more real.
I don't even have any fresh cans. Found an old cup of old dip and sunflower seeds behind a computer. Dried up, all mixed together, had to sort through the whole mess picking out sunflower seeds. Don't even know how old it is. I'm sure you can imagine the rest.
Watching the final 4 with the legs kicked up and a beer. I collapsed and gave in.
Going to bed.... have to figure out how to start form zero again tomorrow.
Looking through these comments exchanged by me, I look like a fucking ass hole. I don't blame anyone here for calling me the spade a spade. I'm a wreck and talk too much.
I think I have realized one thing. Dipping is my way to "deal." whatever that deal is. Work, money, stress, reality....
I have to figure out a new way to "deal" with it.
My goal tomorrow is to not dip and figure out a new way to deal.
Dude really??? And you thought I was a punk for calling you "Kid".
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I'm sorry. I have to start from zero tomorrow.
I know this is sick I have to say it to make it more real.
I don't even have any fresh cans. Found an old cup of old dip and sunflower seeds behind a computer. Dried up, all mixed together, had to sort through the whole mess picking out sunflower seeds. Don't even know how old it is. I'm sure you can imagine the rest.
Watching the final 4 with the legs kicked up and a beer. I collapsed and gave in.
Going to bed.... have to figure out how to start form zero again tomorrow.
Looking through these comments exchanged by me, I look like a fucking ass hole. I don't blame anyone here for calling me the spade a spade. I'm a wreck and talk too much.
I think I have realized one thing. Dipping is my way to "deal." whatever that deal is. Work, money, stress, reality....
I have to figure out a new way to "deal" with it.
My goal tomorrow is to not dip and figure out a new way to deal.
Dude really??? And you thought I was a punk for calling you "Kid".
PM me if you need anything.I want you to be quit.I want to help you if you want my help.You don't have to do this alone,you have found a brotherhood.QLF
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I think I have realized one thing. Dipping is my way to "deal." whatever that deal is. Work, money, stress, reality....
So, when you are dieing of cancer how will you "deal" with that?
Do you have a family? Do you have kids? Do you want to see them grow up or are you so fucking selfish that you will leave them without a father just so you can "deal". Come on man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can do this! You have people here that dipped for 30+ years and are beating nicotine every day.
Let me ask you this? Today you meet a total stranger and he tells you he is going to beat the shit out of you just for the fuck of it. What are you going to do? You going to just stand there and take that beating or fight back?
Fight back mother fucker, please tell me you would fight back!
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You had my number, I've checked my phone and see I did not miss a text or call from you last night, I don't see your name on roll call for yesterday or today. Have you been posting roll and giving us your word? The tools are here, you need to use them. Either you want to quit or you don't, if you want it WORK for it, no one can do this for you. If you don't want it grab a can and stuff your face, watch porn or play games online. If you don't want it don't waste your time or ours, come back when you want to quit. I'm here to help if I can if you want this.
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I think I have realized one thing. Dipping is my way to "deal." whatever that deal is. Work, money, stress, reality....
So, when you are dieing of cancer how will you "deal" with that?
Do you have a family? Do you have kids? Do you want to see them grow up or are you so fucking selfish that you will leave them without a father just so you can "deal". Come on man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can do this! You have people here that dipped for 30+ years and are beating nicotine every day.
Let me ask you this? Today you meet a total stranger and he tells you he is going to beat the shit out of you just for the fuck of it. What are you going to do? You going to just stand there and take that beating or fight back?
Fight back mother fucker, please tell me you would fight back!
Reading his posts, it's pretty obvious he doesn't want to quit. He just doesn't want his handlers/clients who are going to insure him to find out.
Looks like he didn't even wait until after the insurance physical before going back to the can, which is when I was sure he would cave.
Issac, when you truly want to quit, you'll come back.
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Hey kid... where's your promise? :rolleyes: Fuck the shareholders, huh? Your wife's probably a trophy, she'll find someone else... the kids will be fine. Hey kid you know what's more fun then finger banging a can of poison while watching college basketball?'jerk' I'm willing to bet being knuckle deep in that trophy wife sporting a well glazed chin 'Y' comes fairly close. You should just quit now before someone else gets to find out. shocker
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Hey kid... where's your promise? :rolleyes: Fuck the shareholders, huh? Your wife's probably a trophy, she'll find someone else... the kids will be fine. Hey kid you know what's more fun then finger banging a can of poison while watching college basketball?'jerk'Â I'm willing to bet being knuckle deep in that trophy wife sporting a well glazed chin 'Y' comes fairly close. You should just quit now before someone else gets to find out. shocker
Outstanding copen. And u r 100% correct
Isaac, I sent u my number. Use it
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Last activity April 6th. Fucking looser! 'Finger'
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Last activity April 6th. Fucking looser! 'Finger'
naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.
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Last activity April 6th. Fucking looser! 'Finger'
naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.
Yeah - this hole thread has something weird about it.....
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Last activity April 6th. Fucking looser!  'Finger'
naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.
Yeah - this hole thread has something weird about it.....
I agree CleanFuel there is something weird about it.If I was a betting man I'd say that Isaac is such a douche-bag pussy that he bailed before he caved.He found out this wasn't the place to be (KTC) because he couldn't be "The Man". He made a couple limp dick comments on his own thread and got called out right from the beginning.The most honorable thing to do in his addict mind was to come up with this cope-out.One thing I've learned in 65 days here is you better have some thick skin if your gonna come out and play with some weak sauce like he did. Just my .02 anyhow.
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Made it on Sunday and today. Watched the game, didn't have anything. Will post roll tomorrow.... day 2 finished.
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Made it on Sunday and today. Watched the game, didn't have anything. Will post roll tomorrow.... day 2 finished.
Hey kid! Great to see you back... We make our mark here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) in our quit group every day. Just hit quote (upper right), highlight, copy and cut the text in the bottom box... Paste to the top box and add your name and number of days since your last cave (3). That's your promise to yourself and your underlings that you won't slowly kill yourself today. Then, just honor your promise...I've sent my number to your inbox, have your secretary give me a shout if you still have trouble posting roll.
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Last activity April 6th. Fucking looser!  'Finger'
naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.
Yeah - this hole thread has something weird about it.....
I agree CleanFuel there is something weird about it.If I was a betting man I'd say that Isaac is such a douche-bag pussy that he bailed before he caved.He found out this wasn't the place to be (KTC) because he couldn't be "The Man". He made a couple limp dick comments on his own thread and got called out right from the beginning.The most honorable thing to do in his addict mind was to come up with this cope-out.One thing I've learned in 65 days here is you better have some thick skin if your gonna come out and play with some weak sauce like he did. Just my .02 anyhow.
There is an old saying about coaching, criticize the play and not the player. I have been into it with several people before on this site and don't wish to get into it again, but would just like to point this out. When the jackels swarm and criticize the person, "fucking loser", "pussy douchebag", and "limp dick" they completely lose me and many on this site and often times lose the person they claim they are "trying" to help and frankly they look foolish themselves.
Please focus on the quit and not on insult the quitter. It turns off many here, a silent but large number of people who don't want to end up in your sights as they are trying to quit and help other quitters.
Best of luck Isaac and if you are serious we are here to support you all the way.
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Last activity April 6th. Fucking looser!  'Finger'
naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.
Yeah - this hole thread has something weird about it.....
I agree CleanFuel there is something weird about it.If I was a betting man I'd say that Isaac is such a douche-bag pussy that he bailed before he caved.He found out this wasn't the place to be (KTC) because he couldn't be "The Man". He made a couple limp dick comments on his own thread and got called out right from the beginning.The most honorable thing to do in his addict mind was to come up with this cope-out.One thing I've learned in 65 days here is you better have some thick skin if your gonna come out and play with some weak sauce like he did. Just my .02 anyhow.
There is an old saying about coaching, criticize the play and not the player. I have been into it with several people before on this site and don't wish to get into it again, but would just like to point this out. When the jackels swarm and criticize the person, "fucking loser", "pussy douchebag", and "limp dick" they completely lose me and many on this site and often times lose the person they claim they are "trying" to help and frankly they look foolish themselves.
Please focus on the quit and not on insult the quitter. It turns off many here, a silent but large number of people who don't want to end up in your sights as they are trying to quit and help other quitters.
Best of luck Isaac and if you are serious we are here to support you all the way.
Don't like it leave. There are many "softer" ways to quit. Our way works for us.
Why the fuck do new people insist on trying to change this site. 'bang head' 'bang head'
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Nice job posting up Isaac! Please don't let us down today, we'll do the same.
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Last activity April 6th. Fucking looser!  'Finger'
naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.
Yeah - this hole thread has something weird about it.....
I agree CleanFuel there is something weird about it.If I was a betting man I'd say that Isaac is such a douche-bag pussy that he bailed before he caved.He found out this wasn't the place to be (KTC) because he couldn't be "The Man". He made a couple limp dick comments on his own thread and got called out right from the beginning.The most honorable thing to do in his addict mind was to come up with this cope-out.One thing I've learned in 65 days here is you better have some thick skin if your gonna come out and play with some weak sauce like he did. Just my .02 anyhow.
There is an old saying about coaching, criticize the play and not the player. I have been into it with several people before on this site and don't wish to get into it again, but would just like to point this out. When the jackels swarm and criticize the person, "fucking loser", "pussy douchebag", and "limp dick" they completely lose me and many on this site and often times lose the person they claim they are "trying" to help and frankly they look foolish themselves.
Please focus on the quit and not on insult the quitter. It turns off many here, a silent but large number of people who don't want to end up in your sights as they are trying to quit and help other quitters.
Best of luck Isaac and if you are serious we are here to support you all the way.
Don't like it leave. There are many "softer" ways to quit. Our way works for us.
Why the fuck do new people insist on trying to change this site. 'bang head' 'bang head'
I am not trying to change anything at this site, just keep it focused on Isaac's quit and not Isaac as a person.
Let me know if you need support Isaac. The approach and the support here can help if/when you are ready for absolute commitment. No one is perfect, certainly none of the addicts here are or we wouldn't be here but keep your chin up and stay engaged and focused. Post roll daily as a promise to stay away from nicotine, one day at a time.
Toolshed
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I can understand the frustration everyone has toward the way this post has progressed. Isaac has been all over the board with his post's and he just needs to quit the "addict lingo" and own up to his own quit! Isaac, slow down and think before you hit the "add reply" button. Be the "Key Man" and inspire us!!
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I can understand as well McBee. I'm a mess and this post is a mess.
Your the man Parputt. I'm a fucking loser you are absolutely 110% right. I won't shy away from that because this stupid ass addiction that I would not wish upon anyone. I am here, if I'm honest, because I want to have a life with my family and children that I may have jeopardized. And it scares me shitless.
Hubrick, It's not obvious I want to quit.. I'm owning to that fact that for me. I wish all things that I "enjoy" weren't bad more me, my family, and my children. I admit I didn't come here without a precipice. 20 years of this shit. For me I needed an "event." I shared that with this community.
I'm ok with the backlash. The distraught I am feeling about this journey of mine to change my life, and I mean change my world from anything I can remember, is obviously difficult.
I read some of the other posts on this site. I read some of the date "joined" to this community. I really admire all of you. To be able to say "I beat this and I have the answer for you". I just want the answer. I want to know the secret, or the key.
If you are the get tough don't be a pussy kind of guy, I understand that, if you are the supportive guy, I understand that as well. I'm not sure what it will take....... I don't care what it will take, I just want it to be over.
It's obvious I don't know what will finally get this thing behind me. Or I wouldn't be here. Reaching out to total strangers.
Tomorrow is day 3 of 7,300. I need/want to tackle that.
Can I ask this community are there any other resources I can call upon? What avenues and resources have others used to beat this shit? Is there a prescription, a doctor, or a local group, or a minister, or a church, or some thing I should consider as well considering I am totally fucked by this addiction and I'm only on day 2 of trying to fix.
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I can understand as well McBee. I'm a mess and this post is a mess.Â
Your the man Parputt. I'm a fucking loser you are absolutely 110% right. I won't shy away from that because this stupid ass addiction that I would not wish upon anyone. I am here, if I'm honest, because I want to have a life with my family and children that I may have jeopardized. And it scares me shitless.
Hubrick, It's not obvious I want to quit.. I'm owning to that fact that for me. I wish all things that I "enjoy" weren't bad more me, my family, and my children. I admit I didn't come here without a precipice. 20 years of this shit. For me I needed an "event." I shared that with this community.
I'm ok with the backlash. The distraught I am feeling about this journey of mine to change my life, and I mean change my world from anything I can remember, is obviously difficult.
I read some of the other posts on this site. I read some of the date "joined" to this community. I really admire all of you. To be able to say "I beat this and I have the answer for you". I just want the answer. I want to know the secret, or the key.
If you are the get tough don't be a pussy kind of guy, I understand that, if you are the supportive guy, I understand that as well. I'm not sure what it will take....... I don't care what it will take, I just want it to be over.
It's obvious I don't know what will finally get this thing behind me. Or I wouldn't be here. Reaching out to total strangers.
Tomorrow is day 3 of 7,300. I need to tackle that.
Can I ask this community are there any other resources I can call upon? What avenues and resources have others used to beat this shit? Is there a prescription, a doctor, or a local group, or a minister, or a church, or some thing I should consider as well considering I am totally fucked by this addiction and I'm only on day 2 of trying to fix.
Isaac,
There's no secret, there's no potion, no snake oil elixir. It comes from inside, you reach deep down and you decide nothing will derail your quit. You come here every day and read. Make your promise to these perfect strangers early every morning and honor that promise. That's it.
It's a simple formula. Get to know the folks in your quit group. Call or text someone if you need to. Be there for someone else.
After 3 days the nicotine is out of your system and the mind games begin so fight back...(underlined text are links)
Take a look at these. (http://www.killthecan.org/pics/)
Then read this. (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/randys-story.asp)
If you're not yet motivated take a look at this. (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp)
Know thy enemy. (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/linksaaddiction.html) Knowledge is power.
Just worry about today. You can do anything for a day, right?
Make your promise, honor it every day then repeat. I will never tell you I've got this beat but it does get easier each day. It has to come from you.
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those all are great links by cw/oc. I do know guys here who have gone to the doctors office and I'm sure there are guys who have talked to clergy. IMHO the best way to beat this it to want to beat it, don't think it stays just like day 2 because it gets better man, Day 3 I was punching concrete and yelling at a tree. Tie a knot and hang on, power through. At this point you are almost through the physical addiction, get there - 24 more hours. From that point on it's mind games, it's still tough but look how many have done it before you, you don't think all of us are that much more bad ass than you are do you? Now get to work quitting.
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Hey Isaac, how is it going? Be sure and let us all know. The people here are with you, we can support you you just need to stay engaged. There is no secret man, just commitment fueled with knowledge and driven by hatred for this inanimate object that has controlled us all.
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Hey Isaac 'Finger'
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
I don't get it... No roll post for three days. I checked for bumps and didn't see any but I could be wrong. You were hanging around last night too but still no post.
Tell me Isaac, what will it take to unfuck your shit? Nobody can do this for you. You have to decide...
If your leggy assistant told you that you could reduce your risk of premature morbidity, that your trophy wife would take fewer tennis lessons, that you could actually be the hero your kids thought you were and oh yeah, your company will save a boatload of cash insuring your sorry ass if you simply decide to make a promise and stick to it each day, why wouldn't you do it?
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Hey Isaac 'Finger'
'bang head'Â 'bang head'Â 'bang head'
I don't get it... No roll post for three days. I checked for bumps and didn't see any but I could be wrong. You were hanging around last night too but still no post.
Tell me Isaac, what will it take to unfuck your shit? Nobody can do this for you. You have to decide...Â
If your leggy assistant told you that you could reduce your risk of premature morbidity, that your trophy wife would take fewer tennis lessons, that you could actually be the hero your kids thought you were and oh yeah, your company will save a boatload of cash insuring your sorry ass if you simply decide to make a promise and stick to it each day, why wouldn't you do it?
Get in the game BRO......I gave you my number and you have not even texted....
STEP UP
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Hey Isaac 'Finger'
'bang head'Â 'bang head'Â 'bang head'
I don't get it... No roll post for three days. I checked for bumps and didn't see any but I could be wrong. You were hanging around last night too but still no post.
Tell me Isaac, what will it take to unfuck your shit? Nobody can do this for you. You have to decide...Â
If your leggy assistant told you that you could reduce your risk of premature morbidity, that your trophy wife would take fewer tennis lessons, that you could actually be the hero your kids thought you were and oh yeah, your company will save a boatload of cash insuring your sorry ass if you simply decide to make a promise and stick to it each day, why wouldn't you do it?
Get in the game BRO......I gave you my number and you have not even texted....
STEP UP
All these pleas for 'help' and no response back in the thread at all. I actually Pm'ed you the morning after calling you out and I apologized.I told you I was just pissed at you for your weak ass decision to cave.I see you lurking but not posting still and it pisses me off again.Real quitters get vested with people and care about there quit.Real quitters are invaluable, real quitters save lives.I wish you luck Isaac if your not willing to listen and take notes.
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Hey Isaac 'Finger'
'bang head'Â 'bang head'Â 'bang head'
I don't get it... No roll post for three days. I checked for bumps and didn't see any but I could be wrong. You were hanging around last night too but still no post.
Tell me Isaac, what will it take to unfuck your shit? Nobody can do this for you. You have to decide...Â
If your leggy assistant told you that you could reduce your risk of premature morbidity, that your trophy wife would take fewer tennis lessons, that you could actually be the hero your kids thought you were and oh yeah, your company will save a boatload of cash insuring your sorry ass if you simply decide to make a promise and stick to it each day, why wouldn't you do it?
Get in the game BRO......I gave you my number and you have not even texted....
STEP UP
All these pleas for 'help' and no response back in the thread at all. I actually Pm'ed you the morning after calling you out and I apologized.I told you I was just pissed at you for your weak ass decision to cave.I see you lurking but not posting still and it pisses me off again.Real quitters get vested with people and care about there quit.Real quitters are invaluable, real quitters save lives.I wish you luck Isaac if your not willing to listen and take notes.
Can't save them all.
I didn't see anything in his posts that made be think he really wanted to quit for him. That's why he's back to the can.
He won't quit until he really wants it. I just hope he doesn't get cancer before he gets to that point.
Think about it Issac. You're a slave to nicotine. Wouldn't you rather be free? I can tell you it's far, far superior.
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Saw you reading you intro for quite a while tonight, kind of tells me you want some help but by reading through here I am guessing your pride won't let you ask for it again. I also see you weren't really given the basics so here is my standard intro reply:
Well here is the deal with KTC, we are basically a cold turkey program, we don't utilize nicotine replacement therapy such as nicorette gum.
We come in each day and promise to our brothers that we will remain quit for the rest of the day, the next day we come and do the same thing.
People come in here and bust balls, they go in the chat and talk about the issues they are having, they call fellow quit group members and ask for help. We remain quit one day at a time.
We have milestones, the biggest and the first is reaching 100 days quit without NRT, this is called the Hall of Fame, the time when you reach HOF is your quit group so if you quit today you would be in the October 2013 group.
When in your group you post roll call, this is your promise to quit today, tomorrow you come in and repeat. Remember, we are addicts, we are junkies to nicotine, it takes a strong will and assistance to stay quit.
Here is the welcome center
index.php?showforum=13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Here is how to post roll call
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
And a little video on how to post roll call
http://www.killthecan.org/roll/ (http://www.killthecan.org/roll/)
Here is the September quit group
index.php?showtopic=8419 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8419)
Welcome to our group, if you buy into the program it can save your life.
Stay quit my friend.
Bigwhitebeast
I sent you a PM when you were reading but you must have missed it, try hitting the chat room when you are around, on the right side up top in black "Live Chat"
Obviously you want this so come and get it, take some lumps because we got plenty of people with opinions about your bad decisions but most imp[ortantly come around and quit.
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Saw you reading you intro for quite a while tonight, kind of tells me you want some help but by reading through here I am guessing your pride won't let you ask for it again. I also see you weren't really given the basics so here is my standard intro reply:
Well here is the deal with KTC, we are basically a cold turkey program, we don't utilize nicotine replacement therapy such as nicorette gum.
We come in each day and promise to our brothers that we will remain quit for the rest of the day, the next day we come and do the same thing.
People come in here and bust balls, they go in the chat and talk about the issues they are having, they call fellow quit group members and ask for help. We remain quit one day at a time.
We have milestones, the biggest and the first is reaching 100 days quit without NRT, this is called the Hall of Fame, the time when you reach HOF is your quit group so if you quit today you would be in the October 2013 group.
When in your group you post roll call, this is your promise to quit today, tomorrow you come in and repeat. Remember, we are addicts, we are junkies to nicotine, it takes a strong will and assistance to stay quit.
Here is the welcome center
index.php?showforum=13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Here is how to post roll call
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
And a little video on how to post roll call
http://www.killthecan.org/roll/ (http://www.killthecan.org/roll/)
Here is the September quit group
index.php?showtopic=8419 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8419)
Welcome to our group, if you buy into the program it can save your life.
Stay quit my friend.
Bigwhitebeast
I sent you a PM when you were reading but you must have missed it, try hitting the chat room when you are around, on the right side up top in black "Live Chat"
Obviously you want this so come and get it, take some lumps because we got plenty of people with opinions about your bad decisions but most imp[ortantly come around and quit.
anything new here?