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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: tm8055 on February 03, 2010, 12:54:00 AM
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my name is Tim and i need to quit cope and stick with it. for the last 20 years nic has run my life. for the last 10 years i have gone through 2 to 4 cans a week and i think the worst of it is that for me, spitting is like smoking and not inhaling. i am addicted to swallowing this crap and it scares the hell out of me of what that does to my body. another thing that scares me is how much nic copenhagen contains, one time i gave a dip to a friend of mine who smoked camel nonfilters for 30 years and the dip gave HIM a nic rush! what kind of crap is that? my 33 bday is in 4 days and i have told my self and my family i am going to quit my bad habbits on the 6th but i am afraid that it will turn out to fizzle out like in the past. i have never REALLY tried to quit ao i am looking for some advice on how to start.
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my name is Tim and i need to quit cope and stick with it. for the last 20 years nic has run my life. for the last 10 years i have gone through 2 to 4 cans a week and i think the worst of it is that for me, spitting is like smoking and not inhaling. i am addicted to swallowing this crap and it scares the hell out of me of what that does to my body. another thing that scares me is how much nic copenhagen contains, one time i gave a dip to a friend of mine who smoked camel nonfilters for 30 years and the dip gave HIM a nic rush! what kind of crap is that? my 33 bday is in 4 days and i have told my self and my family i am going to quit my bad habbits on the 6th but i am afraid that it will turn out to fizzle out like in the past. i have never REALLY tried to quit ao i am looking for some advice on how to start.
Simple... make a decision: http://www.killthecan.org/facts/chewie01.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/chewie01.asp)
When you have... we'll be here.
Sounds like you're well on your way.
chewie
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just read that users need not post till a commitment is made. to say the least i was talking of quitting soon then read a post asking for members to quit before posts so i took the chaw out of my lip and flushed all dip thats on hand
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I'm right there with you. I took out my last chaw at 1030pm. Hang in there man, its going to be a rough ride. This is my second go at it.
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I'm right there with you. I took out my last chaw at 1030pm. Hang in there man, its going to be a rough ride. This is my second go at it.
Hell Ya, Okay step one, spit that crap out, vow to yourself that no matter what I will not put that crap in my pie hole ever again.
Step two- post roll in May quit qroup, That'll be the qroup that you hit a hundred days in.......Everyday while uttering to yoosef I will Not Put that crap in said Face!
Step three - repeat step two everyday, fell free to rant, rave, tell what you are feeling.
Drink lots of water to flush the nicotine, and to ward off the headaches. You will go through a foogy period, just scale back your expectations of the day. Get some sunflower seeds, candy, coconut......anything other than nicotine......
Three days is all you have to make it before the nicotine is out your body, the rest is just a mind game...... So put your big boy pants on. If I can make this, then you can make this....By the time this is over, it'll be the best birthday present you could ever give yourself........ So get your quit on..........welcome to the suck Tim And Chris
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We're here for you, brother! If you've made the commitment to stop, you've accomplished a lot already. The rough part is keeping that promise to yourself to not be a slave to nicotine anymore. We're here for you. You need someone to talk to, yell at, hit, cuss, etc., we're here for you. This is a terrific place and if you're ready, we're ready.
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just read that users need not post till a commitment is made. to say the least i was talking of quitting soon then read a post asking for members to quit before posts so i took the chaw out of my lip and flushed all dip thats on hand
If you are serious and your a man of your word.......join us and start quitting. I personally can tell you this is the best way. here's the link to give your word. You will be in May10.
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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Chris and Tim, glad to see you guys join, from a fellow May quitter. Hang in there for a wild ride, and remember the more you hurt, the more it just shows it's control over you. I'm on day 8 today, and it really does get better quickly. The craving and crap don't go away, but they do get less strong.
Remember, you ARE quit. The challenge is not quitting, the challenge is not starting again.
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First time posting about dipping and now seems as good a time as any. I've been dipping off and on for about 17 years. I'm 37 now. Otherwise a healthy person, the dipping is starting to take its toll. I go through a can about every 2 or 3 days and have wanted to quit for a while but can't even get through 1 day! My wife has always been cool as in she doesn't hound me but in a sense she has become a bit of an enabler (not to blame). My day always begins the same: wake up, decide today's the day, shower, kiss my wife, go work, put in my time and on my 20 mile drive home from work I begin to look forward to my chew when I get home. The second I walk in the door I go right for my can (of chew!) and have the first of probably 4-5 chews between the hours of say 5:00-11:00. Almost 1 per hour. This morning, I threw my 8 year old chew cup in the trash for the first time along with the 2 tins laying around the house. We'll see. I really want to quit. I do. I've tried Chantix but it didn't really work for me. It helped me cut down my intake some but ultimately just gave me the blues. So for anyone else out there that a) has quit or B) is in the process of quitting you have a friend in me and I will take your stories of struggle or success to heart. I know that I can use all of the help in the world cause this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
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First time posting about dipping and now seems as good a time as any. I've been dipping off and on for about 17 years. I'm 37 now. Otherwise a healthy person, the dipping is starting to take its toll. I go through a can about every 2 or 3 days and have wanted to quit for a while but can't even get through 1 day! My wife has always been cool as in she doesn't hound me but in a sense she has become a bit of an enabler (not to blame). My day always begins the same: wake up, decide today's the day, shower, kiss my wife, go work, put in my time and on my 20 mile drive home from work I begin to look forward to my chew when I get home. The second I walk in the door I go right for my can (of chew!) and have the first of probably 4-5 chews between the hours of say 5:00-11:00. Almost 1 per hour. This morning, I threw my 8 year old chew cup in the trash for the first time along with the 2 tins laying around the house. We'll see. I really want to quit. I do. I've tried Chantix but it didn't really work for me. It helped me cut down my intake some but ultimately just gave me the blues. So for anyone else out there that a) has quit or B) is in the process of quitting you have a friend in me and I will take your stories of struggle or success to heart. I know that I can use all of the help in the world cause this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You can do it Jude,
Post and use the site. 8 year old chew can though????????
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First time posting about dipping and now seems as good a time as any. I've been dipping off and on for about 17 years. I'm 37 now. Otherwise a healthy person, the dipping is starting to take its toll. I go through a can about every 2 or 3 days and have wanted to quit for a while but can't even get through 1 day! My wife has always been cool as in she doesn't hound me but in a sense she has become a bit of an enabler (not to blame). My day always begins the same: wake up, decide today's the day, shower, kiss my wife, go work, put in my time and on my 20 mile drive home from work I begin to look forward to my chew when I get home. The second I walk in the door I go right for my can (of chew!) and have the first of probably 4-5 chews between the hours of say 5:00-11:00. Almost 1 per hour. This morning, I threw my 8 year old chew cup in the trash for the first time along with the 2 tins laying around the house. We'll see. I really want to quit. I do. I've tried Chantix but it didn't really work for me. It helped me cut down my intake some but ultimately just gave me the blues. So for anyone else out there that a) has quit or B) is in the process of quitting you have a friend in me and I will take your stories of struggle or success to heart. I know that I can use all of the help in the world cause this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You can do it Jude,
Post and use the site. 8 year old chew can though????????
Seriously,
What does an 8 year old spitter look like? I had a friend in college who used one of those massive wine bottles as a spitter in his room. It was almost to the spilling point when he graduated.
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Haha. The current (8 year old cup) spit cup is the longest I've had just one cup. It's just an old slurpee cup from AM/PM or someplace. I dump it after each chew and rinse it (it's still pretty nasty even when it's "clean"). I'm sitting at work and the thought of it sitting in my trash can at home is almost heartbreaking! It's my cup!! That's how f'ing sick it is. I'm having sad feelings towards an inanimate object! Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm definitely going to be here a bunch.
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Haha. The current (8 year old cup) spit cup is the longest I've had just one cup. It's just an old slurpee cup from AM/PM or someplace. I dump it after each chew and rinse it (it's still pretty nasty even when it's "clean"). I'm sitting at work and the thought of it sitting in my trash can at home is almost heartbreaking! It's my cup!! That's how f'ing sick it is. I'm having sad feelings towards an inanimate object! Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm definitely going to be here a bunch.
I'm in day 30. I can't imagine anyone anymore addicted than me for 40+ years. I finished with a can of cope a day addiction. This IS NOT EASY!!!! But I have found it doable....one day/minute at a time. Once you get past the first few days w/o nic it gets a little less worse.
Hang in there it's worth it
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Haha. The current (8 year old cup) spit cup is the longest I've had just one cup. It's just an old slurpee cup from AM/PM or someplace. I dump it after each chew and rinse it (it's still pretty nasty even when it's "clean"). I'm sitting at work and the thought of it sitting in my trash can at home is almost heartbreaking! It's my cup!! That's how f'ing sick it is. I'm having sad feelings towards an inanimate object! Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm definitely going to be here a bunch.
I'm in day 30. I can't imagine anyone anymore addicted than me for 40+ years. I finished with a can of cope a day addiction. This IS NOT EASY!!!! But I have found it doable....one day/minute at a time. Once you get past the first few days w/o nic it gets a little less worse.
Hang in there it's worth it
Subtle Suggestion -
STOMP THE SHIT OUT OF THAT CUP. KILL IT. GET IT OUT OF YOUR LIFE. DESTROY EVERYTHING TOBACCO RELATED. CLEAN YOUR CAR. YOUR DESK. YOUR FINGERNAILS....
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Also, I was so appalled by your 8 year old spitter, I completely overlooked your need for a major attitude adjustment....
First time posting about dipping and now seems as good a time as any.
No, now is the best time. You are quit. In the past, you were a slave to the can.
I've been dipping off and on for about 17 years. I'm 37 now. Otherwise a healthy person, the dipping is starting to take its toll.
Congratulations on coming to your senses. Worry about ending the negative physical toll for now...then you can worry about the psychological/emotional toll.
I go through a can about every 2 or 3 days and have wanted to quit for a while but can't even get through 1 day!
What!? Why can I get through today and you can't? Are you that much more of an addict than me? Are you that much weaker of a person? No and no. You can make it through one day; you just chose not to in the past. You are in control.
My wife has always been cool as in she doesn't hound me but in a sense she has become a bit of an enabler (not to blame).
Bullshit. Show her you've got the balls to quit and she'll support you 100%. You were just such a pussy in the past, it was easier for the wife not to ruffle your tailfeathers.
My day always begins the same: wake up, decide today's the day, shower, kiss my wife, go work, put in my time and on my 20 mile drive home from work I begin to look forward to my chew when I get home. The second I walk in the door I go right for my can (of chew!) and have the first of probably 4-5 chews between the hours of say 5:00-11:00. Almost 1 per hour.
What does "decide today's the day" mean? Quittin' isn't easy. You need to work at it and you need resolve. You need support. You're not just going to stop being an addict. You need a plan. Not to quit on a whim and repeat failed patterns.
This morning, I threw my 8 year old chew cup in the trash for the first time along with the 2 tins laying around the house.
See my comment below.
We'll see. I really want to quit. I do.
"We'll see" opens a huge door for repeated failure. You've obviously wanted to quit for some reason for a long time...why? Do you have the balls to turn "We'll see" into "I promise I will not use nicotine today". That's really all that matters. Worry about tomorrow when it comes. Get through today.
I've tried Chantix but it didn't really work for me. It helped me cut down my intake some but ultimately just gave me the blues.
Don't rely on any external factors to quit for you. This needs to be for you and it needs to come from you.
So for anyone else out there that A. has quit or B. is in the process of quitting you have a friend in me and I will take your stories of struggle or success to heart.
Can you please explain the "the process of quitting"? Does the process of quitting mean waking up and saying "today's the day" only to return home to your can? Forget the process and just quit.
I know that I can use all of the help in the world cause this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it.
Picking your teeth is a habit. Chewing tobacco is an addiction. You are an addict. Addicts need support. Addicts need a plan. Addicts need to make a FIRM commitment one day at a time. I was once like you and I'm still alive. More alive today.
But i'm trying.
If you thought about what I wrote above, the bullshit of this statement will speak for itself.
But just in case you missed it - "Do, or do not. There is no try"
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First time posting about dipping and now seems as good a time as any. I've been dipping off and on for about 17 years. I'm 37 now. Otherwise a healthy person, the dipping is starting to take its toll. I go through a can about every 2 or 3 days and have wanted to quit for a while but can't even get through 1 day! My wife has always been cool as in she doesn't hound me but in a sense she has become a bit of an enabler (not to blame). My day always begins the same: wake up, decide today's the day, shower, kiss my wife, go work, put in my time and on my 20 mile drive home from work I begin to look forward to my chew when I get home. The second I walk in the door I go right for my can (of chew!) and have the first of probably 4-5 chews between the hours of say 5:00-11:00. Almost 1 per hour. This morning, I threw my 8 year old chew cup in the trash for the first time along with the 2 tins laying around the house. We'll see. I really want to quit. I do. I've tried Chantix but it didn't really work for me. It helped me cut down my intake some but ultimately just gave me the blues. So for anyone else out there that a) has quit or B) is in the process of quitting you have a friend in me and I will take your stories of struggle or success to heart. I know that I can use all of the help in the world cause this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
Trust Me I, and everyone else, knows exactly what you are talking about. I chewed for 26 or 27 years. I ate with it in, I slept with it in, hell at times i would even have sex with it in. Every morning I woke up I threw a chew in. I wouldn't spit it out very often...I would just keep adding a little to it all day. I tried Chantex also, I tried every drug the dr would give to quit. What I finally came to the conclusion was that the reason I kept going back was simply because I was quitting without feeling the pain on those drugs. When you take away the true pain and struggle in a quit, I truly believe you don't appriciate the quit and fall off the wagon way easier. Hell if I can do it you can too. Just get your mind wrapped around the idea that the pain and struggle is like the pain of starting to lift weights. At first it sucks big time, but then after a little while that burn starts to feel good and you embrace it. Trying to quit is like trying to make money. Only you can put the work in to get the reward, and only you can determine how much effort will go into your quit. Just remember we are here ready to help you anyway we can.
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First time posting about dipping and now seems as good a time as any. I've been dipping off and on for about 17 years. I'm 37 now. Otherwise a healthy person, the dipping is starting to take its toll. I go through a can about every 2 or 3 days and have wanted to quit for a while but can't even get through 1 day! My wife has always been cool as in she doesn't hound me but in a sense she has become a bit of an enabler (not to blame). My day always begins the same: wake up, decide today's the day, shower, kiss my wife, go work, put in my time and on my 20 mile drive home from work I begin to look forward to my chew when I get home. The second I walk in the door I go right for my can (of chew!) and have the first of probably 4-5 chews between the hours of say 5:00-11:00. Almost 1 per hour. This morning, I threw my 8 year old chew cup in the trash for the first time along with the 2 tins laying around the house. We'll see. I really want to quit. I do. I've tried Chantix but it didn't really work for me. It helped me cut down my intake some but ultimately just gave me the blues. So for anyone else out there that a) has quit or B) is in the process of quitting you have a friend in me and I will take your stories of struggle or success to heart. I know that I can use all of the help in the world cause this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You can do it Jude,
Post and use the site. 8 year old chew can though????????
Seriously,
What does an 8 year old spitter look like? I had a friend in college who used one of those massive wine bottles as a spitter in his room. It was almost to the spilling point when he graduated.
Wha? You mean he never cleaned it out?! 'yak'
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
Nice job judetree. How can watching football be a trigger. Is that one of the only times during the week you dipped?
Problem with dippers is, we dipped during everything from eating, sleeping and for some, even sex. So if we dipped during everything then everything is a trigger, and if everything is a trigger then nothing is a trigger..make sense.
You make it thorouh this game and it will prove that you can watch FB without dipping. Imagine that...bet you thought it could not happen.
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
Nice job judetree. How can watching football be a trigger. Is that one of the only times during the week you dipped?
Problem with dippers is, we dipped during everything from eating, sleeping and for some, even sex. So if we dipped during everything then everything is a trigger, and if everything is a trigger then nothing is a trigger..make sense.
You make it thorouh this game and it will prove that you can watch FB without dipping. Imagine that...bet you thought it could not happen.
True that, Mike. I can think of 100 or so other triggers for me, and judetree weird ones will pop up all the time at the beginning. They have these new anti-smoking commercials on here, I think they are NY state...and they are hilarious cause one shows this guy going outside for a cigarrette and he steals a car, and the caption is something like,"you don't have to drive everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drive?" and then there's another one where this chick is in her office getting ready for a cig break and she whips up like some fancy drink in a blender, "you don't drink everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drink?'
Something like that.
Point is you don't have to spit watching football. Or anything else.
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
Nice job judetree. How can watching football be a trigger. Is that one of the only times during the week you dipped?
Problem with dippers is, we dipped during everything from eating, sleeping and for some, even sex. So if we dipped during everything then everything is a trigger, and if everything is a trigger then nothing is a trigger..make sense.
You make it thorouh this game and it will prove that you can watch FB without dipping. Imagine that...bet you thought it could not happen.
True that, Mike. I can think of 100 or so other triggers for me, and judetree weird ones will pop up all the time at the beginning. They have these new anti-smoking commercials on here, I think they are NY state...and they are hilarious cause one shows this guy going outside for a cigarrette and he steals a car, and the caption is something like,"you don't have to drive everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drive?" and then there's another one where this chick is in her office getting ready for a cig break and she whips up like some fancy drink in a blender, "you don't drink everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drink?'
Something like that.
Point is you don't have to spit watching football. Or anything else.
Believe me I have a trigger for every letter in the alphabet. Sports, after dinner, watching a movie, working in the yard, after a workout, before a workout, when I get home to "relax", on and on and on. Football is just the worst. I'd guess between your average College Saturday and NFL Sunday I've had by Sunday night close to 20-25 chews, maybe more. The best thing I'm finding here on my 2nd day is how helpful it is being at work at a job where I cannot easily chew (and never have) as I work in an professional office environment. Going 8 hours without a chew when you are trying to quit is a blessing. I'm also finding that planning my evenings once I get home is helpful. Last night it was a ridiculously long walk, wife made an amazing dinner, chick flick (!) and early attempt to go to sleep (which failed). Tonight, it's tennis for an hour and a half and then early night sleep to make up for last night. Basically, skipping altogether the opportunity to even think about chewing. Anyway...for the record, I like the Colts (to cover as well...).
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
Nice job judetree. How can watching football be a trigger. Is that one of the only times during the week you dipped?
Problem with dippers is, we dipped during everything from eating, sleeping and for some, even sex. So if we dipped during everything then everything is a trigger, and if everything is a trigger then nothing is a trigger..make sense.
You make it thorouh this game and it will prove that you can watch FB without dipping. Imagine that...bet you thought it could not happen.
True that, Mike. I can think of 100 or so other triggers for me, and judetree weird ones will pop up all the time at the beginning. They have these new anti-smoking commercials on here, I think they are NY state...and they are hilarious cause one shows this guy going outside for a cigarrette and he steals a car, and the caption is something like,"you don't have to drive everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drive?" and then there's another one where this chick is in her office getting ready for a cig break and she whips up like some fancy drink in a blender, "you don't drink everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drink?'
Something like that.
Point is you don't have to spit watching football. Or anything else.
Believe me I have a trigger for every letter in the alphabet. Sports, after dinner, watching a movie, working in the yard, after a workout, before a workout, when I get home to "relax", on and on and on. Football is just the worst. I'd guess between your average College Saturday and NFL Sunday I've had by Sunday night close to 20-25 chews, maybe more. The best thing I'm finding here on my 2nd day is how helpful it is being at work at a job where I cannot easily chew (and never have) as I work in an professional office environment. Going 8 hours without a chew when you are trying to quit is a blessing. I'm also finding that planning my evenings once I get home is helpful. Last night it was a ridiculously long walk, wife made an amazing dinner, chick flick (!) and early attempt to go to sleep (which failed). Tonight, it's tennis for an hour and a half and then early night sleep to make up for last night. Basically, skipping altogether the opportunity to even think about chewing. Anyway...for the record, I like the Colts (to cover as well...).
Someone wiser than me once told me that he used to think things were made better by dip...aka fishing, hunting, movies, an after meal treat and so on. But the truth is he realized he sometimes was simply doing things just to justify dipping afterwards. Dip does not make things better and any thought that it does is just a junkies mind convincing you that you need it or that it serves a purpose.
Fact is everything you do is better without a cancer causing addiction and you do not need that shit.....period
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Day 1 is in the books...I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great.
Day 1 is an incredibly big deal.
Congratulations! That is HUGE!
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Day 1 is in the books...I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great.
Day 1 is an incredibly big deal.
Congratulations! That is HUGE!
All of us here are just 1 day quitters so 1 day is huge.
Nice job on 1 day smokeyg, judetree, rawaldem, nmc, skoalmonster, fthekodiak.
I will see ya all tomorrow
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
Nice job judetree. How can watching football be a trigger. Is that one of the only times during the week you dipped?
Problem with dippers is, we dipped during everything from eating, sleeping and for some, even sex. So if we dipped during everything then everything is a trigger, and if everything is a trigger then nothing is a trigger..make sense.
You make it thorouh this game and it will prove that you can watch FB without dipping. Imagine that...bet you thought it could not happen.
True that, Mike. I can think of 100 or so other triggers for me, and judetree weird ones will pop up all the time at the beginning. They have these new anti-smoking commercials on here, I think they are NY state...and they are hilarious cause one shows this guy going outside for a cigarrette and he steals a car, and the caption is something like,"you don't have to drive everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drive?" and then there's another one where this chick is in her office getting ready for a cig break and she whips up like some fancy drink in a blender, "you don't drink everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drink?'
Something like that.
Point is you don't have to spit watching football. Or anything else.
Believe me I have a trigger for every letter in the alphabet. Sports, after dinner, watching a movie, working in the yard, after a workout, before a workout, when I get home to "relax", on and on and on. Football is just the worst. I'd guess between your average College Saturday and NFL Sunday I've had by Sunday night close to 20-25 chews, maybe more. The best thing I'm finding here on my 2nd day is how helpful it is being at work at a job where I cannot easily chew (and never have) as I work in an professional office environment. Going 8 hours without a chew when you are trying to quit is a blessing. I'm also finding that planning my evenings once I get home is helpful. Last night it was a ridiculously long walk, wife made an amazing dinner, chick flick (!) and early attempt to go to sleep (which failed). Tonight, it's tennis for an hour and a half and then early night sleep to make up for last night. Basically, skipping altogether the opportunity to even think about chewing. Anyway...for the record, I like the Colts (to cover as well...).
Someone wiser than me once told me that he used to think things were made better by dip...aka fishing, hunting, movies, an after meal treat and so on. But the truth is he realized he sometimes was simply doing things just to justify dipping afterwards. Dip does not make things better and any thought that it does is just a junkies mind convincing you that you need it or that it serves a purpose.
Fact is everything you do is better without a cancer causing addiction and you do not need that shit.....period
Congrats on the first day fellas. One day at a time, one step at a time, no more than that.
Everyone here has your back. PM anyone for their phone number, always good to have if you need to talk.
After 3 days the nic is out of your system, then it is just mind games. I know you said you were not going to do the fake dip, but you might want to have one in the ready...better than the alternative.
Breathing was my biggest trigger, but in reality it was just the nic bitch needing a fix, now I am starving her fucking ass. 'Finger'
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
Nice job judetree. How can watching football be a trigger. Is that one of the only times during the week you dipped?
Problem with dippers is, we dipped during everything from eating, sleeping and for some, even sex. So if we dipped during everything then everything is a trigger, and if everything is a trigger then nothing is a trigger..make sense.
You make it thorouh this game and it will prove that you can watch FB without dipping. Imagine that...bet you thought it could not happen.
True that, Mike. I can think of 100 or so other triggers for me, and judetree weird ones will pop up all the time at the beginning. They have these new anti-smoking commercials on here, I think they are NY state...and they are hilarious cause one shows this guy going outside for a cigarrette and he steals a car, and the caption is something like,"you don't have to drive everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drive?" and then there's another one where this chick is in her office getting ready for a cig break and she whips up like some fancy drink in a blender, "you don't drink everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drink?'
Something like that.
Point is you don't have to spit watching football. Or anything else.
Believe me I have a trigger for every letter in the alphabet. Sports, after dinner, watching a movie, working in the yard, after a workout, before a workout, when I get home to "relax", on and on and on. Football is just the worst. I'd guess between your average College Saturday and NFL Sunday I've had by Sunday night close to 20-25 chews, maybe more. The best thing I'm finding here on my 2nd day is how helpful it is being at work at a job where I cannot easily chew (and never have) as I work in an professional office environment. Going 8 hours without a chew when you are trying to quit is a blessing. I'm also finding that planning my evenings once I get home is helpful. Last night it was a ridiculously long walk, wife made an amazing dinner, chick flick (!) and early attempt to go to sleep (which failed). Tonight, it's tennis for an hour and a half and then early night sleep to make up for last night. Basically, skipping altogether the opportunity to even think about chewing. Anyway...for the record, I like the Colts (to cover as well...).
Someone wiser than me once told me that he used to think things were made better by dip...aka fishing, hunting, movies, an after meal treat and so on. But the truth is he realized he sometimes was simply doing things just to justify dipping afterwards. Dip does not make things better and any thought that it does is just a junkies mind convincing you that you need it or that it serves a purpose.
Fact is everything you do is better without a cancer causing addiction and you do not need that shit.....period
Congrats on the first day fellas. One day at a time, one step at a time, no more than that.
Everyone here has your back. PM anyone for their phone number, always good to have if you need to talk.
After 3 days the nic is out of your system, then it is just mind games. I know you said you were not going to do the fake dip, but you might want to have one in the ready...better than the alternative.
Breathing was my biggest trigger, but in reality it was just the nic bitch needing a fix, now I am starving her fucking ass. 'Finger'
Something proven by the many quitters here: we can do ANYTHING, and do it without dip. Living life was everyone's trigger. The concept takes some getting used to. You've got to learn to live your life without the dip. Placate the oral craving with something other than tobacco, if necessary. Driving, hunting, golf, football, welding, mowing the lawn, fishing, etc......it can all be done without nicotine. Just stay quit, and little by little, you will re-train your brain.
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
Nice job judetree. How can watching football be a trigger. Is that one of the only times during the week you dipped?
Problem with dippers is, we dipped during everything from eating, sleeping and for some, even sex. So if we dipped during everything then everything is a trigger, and if everything is a trigger then nothing is a trigger..make sense.
You make it thorouh this game and it will prove that you can watch FB without dipping. Imagine that...bet you thought it could not happen.
True that, Mike. I can think of 100 or so other triggers for me, and judetree weird ones will pop up all the time at the beginning. They have these new anti-smoking commercials on here, I think they are NY state...and they are hilarious cause one shows this guy going outside for a cigarrette and he steals a car, and the caption is something like,"you don't have to drive everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drive?" and then there's another one where this chick is in her office getting ready for a cig break and she whips up like some fancy drink in a blender, "you don't drink everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drink?'
Something like that.
Point is you don't have to spit watching football. Or anything else.
Believe me I have a trigger for every letter in the alphabet. Sports, after dinner, watching a movie, working in the yard, after a workout, before a workout, when I get home to "relax", on and on and on. Football is just the worst. I'd guess between your average College Saturday and NFL Sunday I've had by Sunday night close to 20-25 chews, maybe more. The best thing I'm finding here on my 2nd day is how helpful it is being at work at a job where I cannot easily chew (and never have) as I work in an professional office environment. Going 8 hours without a chew when you are trying to quit is a blessing. I'm also finding that planning my evenings once I get home is helpful. Last night it was a ridiculously long walk, wife made an amazing dinner, chick flick (!) and early attempt to go to sleep (which failed). Tonight, it's tennis for an hour and a half and then early night sleep to make up for last night. Basically, skipping altogether the opportunity to even think about chewing. Anyway...for the record, I like the Colts (to cover as well...).
Someone wiser than me once told me that he used to think things were made better by dip...aka fishing, hunting, movies, an after meal treat and so on. But the truth is he realized he sometimes was simply doing things just to justify dipping afterwards. Dip does not make things better and any thought that it does is just a junkies mind convincing you that you need it or that it serves a purpose.
Fact is everything you do is better without a cancer causing addiction and you do not need that shit.....period
Congrats on the first day fellas. One day at a time, one step at a time, no more than that.
Everyone here has your back. PM anyone for their phone number, always good to have if you need to talk.
After 3 days the nic is out of your system, then it is just mind games. I know you said you were not going to do the fake dip, but you might want to have one in the ready...better than the alternative.
Breathing was my biggest trigger, but in reality it was just the nic bitch needing a fix, now I am starving her fucking ass. 'Finger'
Something proven by the many quitters here: we can do ANYTHING, and do it without dip. Living life was everyone's trigger. The concept takes some getting used to. You've got to learn to live your life without the dip. Placate the oral craving with something other than tobacco, if necessary. Driving, hunting, golf, football, welding, mowing the lawn, fishing, etc......it can all be done without nicotine. Just stay quit, and little by little, you will re-train your brain.
Damn, that's a manly list o' placation.
Whatever happened to antiquing, tittering, knitting, gossiping, not paying attention at traffic lights, fisting one's vagine?
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this habit has become such a love of mine that it's almost impossible to imagine life without it. But i'm trying.
You love it? are you sure? why?
seriously this will actually help you.
Tell me why you think you love it and I bet I can show you how your lying to yourself. This will be interesting, pretty arrogant on my part I agree but I just wanna see if you can come up with something new. I bet you can't.
Skoal Monster- slaps judetree silly with glove and issues the challenge
'stick'
Give me three reasons why you think you love it.
Give me any reason why you struggle to see yourself living without it.
The stakes
If you can stump the Skoal Monster, I'll buy you your Hof coin .....when you hit the Hof. Rules are I will prove without a doubt why your thinking is false on both topics. If I win you have to change your Avatar to a Skoal Monster and stay quit.
a bet?
You can't let that go unchallenged, judetree! You never know, you just might get a free coin out of the deal. Do it....DO IT!!
Day 1 is in the books...I was trying to remember the last time I went 1 single day without chewing and I think it's been 8 years. Didn't sleep much but all in all it wasn't too bad making it through one day/night. I have to say all of the words of encouragement from everyone on here were a huge help in getting me through the first day. So, thanks for that. Not sure what the consensus is on using replacement products (hooch, mint snuff, etc.) but I decided that I was going to just kick without replacing the fixation with anything else (other than Altoids and gum, which work okay for me). I know one day is no big deal but it's something and it feels great. A little worried about Sunday's big game cause watching FB is my biggest trigger but the more I think about it as I write this the more I know it's not going to get in my way. Thanks again all - will drop in w/ updates and to hear from others.
Nice job judetree. How can watching football be a trigger. Is that one of the only times during the week you dipped?
Problem with dippers is, we dipped during everything from eating, sleeping and for some, even sex. So if we dipped during everything then everything is a trigger, and if everything is a trigger then nothing is a trigger..make sense.
You make it thorouh this game and it will prove that you can watch FB without dipping. Imagine that...bet you thought it could not happen.
True that, Mike. I can think of 100 or so other triggers for me, and judetree weird ones will pop up all the time at the beginning. They have these new anti-smoking commercials on here, I think they are NY state...and they are hilarious cause one shows this guy going outside for a cigarrette and he steals a car, and the caption is something like,"you don't have to drive everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drive?" and then there's another one where this chick is in her office getting ready for a cig break and she whips up like some fancy drink in a blender, "you don't drink everytime you smoke, so why do you smoke everytime you drink?'
Something like that.
Point is you don't have to spit watching football. Or anything else.
Believe me I have a trigger for every letter in the alphabet. Sports, after dinner, watching a movie, working in the yard, after a workout, before a workout, when I get home to "relax", on and on and on. Football is just the worst. I'd guess between your average College Saturday and NFL Sunday I've had by Sunday night close to 20-25 chews, maybe more. The best thing I'm finding here on my 2nd day is how helpful it is being at work at a job where I cannot easily chew (and never have) as I work in an professional office environment. Going 8 hours without a chew when you are trying to quit is a blessing. I'm also finding that planning my evenings once I get home is helpful. Last night it was a ridiculously long walk, wife made an amazing dinner, chick flick (!) and early attempt to go to sleep (which failed). Tonight, it's tennis for an hour and a half and then early night sleep to make up for last night. Basically, skipping altogether the opportunity to even think about chewing. Anyway...for the record, I like the Colts (to cover as well...).
Someone wiser than me once told me that he used to think things were made better by dip...aka fishing, hunting, movies, an after meal treat and so on. But the truth is he realized he sometimes was simply doing things just to justify dipping afterwards. Dip does not make things better and any thought that it does is just a junkies mind convincing you that you need it or that it serves a purpose.
Fact is everything you do is better without a cancer causing addiction and you do not need that shit.....period
Congrats on the first day fellas. One day at a time, one step at a time, no more than that.
Everyone here has your back. PM anyone for their phone number, always good to have if you need to talk.
After 3 days the nic is out of your system, then it is just mind games. I know you said you were not going to do the fake dip, but you might want to have one in the ready...better than the alternative.
Breathing was my biggest trigger, but in reality it was just the nic bitch needing a fix, now I am starving her fucking ass. 'Finger'
Something proven by the many quitters here: we can do ANYTHING, and do it without dip. Living life was everyone's trigger. The concept takes some getting used to. You've got to learn to live your life without the dip. Placate the oral craving with something other than tobacco, if necessary. Driving, hunting, golf, football, welding, mowing the lawn, fishing, etc......it can all be done without nicotine. Just stay quit, and little by little, you will re-train your brain.
Damn, that's a manly list o' placation.
Whatever happened to antiquing, tittering, knitting, gossiping, not paying attention at traffic lights, fisting one's vagine?
My bad, Smokey. I'm not much for political correctness.
But sure, add that to the list, along with pedicures, manicures, pokeno, Avon parties...whatever floats your boat. ;)