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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: JayDubya on September 13, 2013, 01:26:00 PM
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Hello, everyone. I have been addicted to nicotine since I was around 16-17 years old. I started out smoking, then dipped also, but in my recent history had too much asthma problems and completely got repulsed by cigarette smoke. So, I fell back on dipping even more so than I already did in my prior years.
I had gotten to the point where I kept a dip in my mouth. Even though I rotated where I put the dip, I still put a really big dip in my mouth and kept it there for at least an hour or more at a time. My teeth are yellow, and I have places that are sensitive to cold, but it's on the top teeth and inside, not the part the cheek covers.
I became nicotine free on September 11, 2013. I have had nicotine gum in my pocket, and I have been tempted to use it when the cravings were strong, I forced myself not to use it. I wanted to try this cold turkey/smart turkey approach.
I have quit before only to start back and some point after. I've tried nicotine gum...that won't work as a quit mechanism for me...it WILL work to appease me for the time, but that's it. I can chew 3-4 pieces of 4 mg nicotine gum without feeling the slightest bit nausea, blowing bubbles, etc. That's why I feel like I have to do this cold turkey/smart turkey to get any results. If I do relapse, I'm going to fall back on the gum and not the dip, but I'm planning against relapsing every day. Hopefully in the next couple weeks, the state funded nicotine cessation program will open up, and I can at least go to the counseling, group sessions, etc.
I am glad to have found this website. I don't understand the roll call thing, how it works, or how to post in it. Heck, I didn't even find a group with my 100 day mark, but that's not surprising--I'm not that great with computers and doing stuff like that.
I look forward to talking with anyone and being held and/or holding another accountable.
J
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Hello Jay,
Welcome to the site, check out the welcome center link above the forums. There is tons of great info on what to expect early on in your quit.
Then you need to get rid of the words, try and hope, stick around and you'll truly learn the beauty of what it is to be truly "quit".
I can walk through your first roll post if you need to, hit me up, I'll send you my phone digits via private message, check your inbox.
The most important thing we do here is post roll call and keep our word, one day at a time.
Proud to quit with you today!
P.S. I missed the nic gum on the first read (Thanks Pinched!) Throw that junk away ASAP.
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Jay,
My friend as an addict myself I welcome you here. Let me first straighten out that you never quit, you stopped before only. If you have stopped before you should know the first few days SUCK, then it gets better. You will get cravings, may affect your dreams and cause other visions to occur.
You sound like you need to quit and can. Now get rid of the Nic gum as we are a 100% nic free group.
I am here to help you and will be sending you a personal message on her with my phone number and other information in it. Use it all.
I am a quitter and will continue to do so until I can officially not be addicted. In other words I am not going anywhere in the near future.
Now drink lots of water, chew gum (unleaded gum), get Lifesaver mints, use fake dip if necessary, stretch out your mojo and be a bad ass quitter. I am right here with you brother.
Pinched
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Jay
Welcome. You have come to the right place my friend. Dude I've been dipping since elementary school. Was raised by smoking parents. Back in the day when people used to repaint the inside of their homes every 5 years to cover up the smoke tar stains. I've never quit. And never stopped. Man, with the support and poet of this site, I am 20 days quit today !!!!!!
You have to want it first. Then read all you can here. By reading, you will be gathering up all the tools you need. Some tools you won't know how to use. But if you reach out and take the support you are offered here, you will be able to learn to use all those new tools and you will succeed.
First, rid yourself, your home, your work, your truck/car, your gym bag, everything, of the nicotine. Leave not one remnant of nicotine. I know man. That's the first step. And it's scary as hell. But taking that first step sometimes is the biggest part of this fight. Man. I stand here today at 20 days, and I tell ya, you can do it. Come on and walk this out with us. Go post roll and join us. Bruit for today. Just worry about today. Then tomorrow......quit again with us.
I'm pm ing you my contact info. Get all the contacts you can. Lets roll buddy.
Gdubya
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Thanks, guys/gals! I will use the numbers until I can get a feel for the roll call. I haven't used any of the nicotine gum.
I'm not trying to be funny or crass, but I don't ever remember having this much gas before when I stopped using nicotine. This is like something out of a freaking ghost story!! lol Plus I've been unusually craving V8 juice. I've always liked it, but started craving it the morning I quit. I've been through 152 ounces/4.75 quarts of V8 in the last 24 hours or less.
While these physical withdrawal symptoms are running their course, I'm really thinking and planning on the future psychological withdrawals, as that's been my Achilles heel in the past, whether it was anger, hurt, disappointment, etc. I'm trying to figure out how to be a healthier "me" on the inside, so I can abstain from nicotine now and in the future.
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Thanks, guys/gals! I will use the numbers until I can get a feel for the roll call. I haven't used any of the nicotine gum.
I'm not trying to be funny or crass, but I don't ever remember having this much gas before when I stopped using nicotine. This is like something out of a freaking ghost story!! lol Plus I've been unusually craving V8 juice. I've always liked it, but started craving it the morning I quit. I've been through 152 ounces/4.75 quarts of V8 in the last 24 hours or less.
While these physical withdrawal symptoms are running their course, I'm really thinking and planning on the future psychological withdrawals, as that's been my Achilles heel in the past, whether it was anger, hurt, disappointment, etc. I'm trying to figure out how to be a healthier "me" on the inside, so I can abstain from nicotine now and in the future.
If you get angry and want to scream at someone during your quit, you have my number. I will be more than happy to oblige.
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Thanks, guys/gals! I will use the numbers until I can get a feel for the roll call. I haven't used any of the nicotine gum.
I'm not trying to be funny or crass, but I don't ever remember having this much gas before when I stopped using nicotine. This is like something out of a freaking ghost story!! lol Plus I've been unusually craving V8 juice. I've always liked it, but started craving it the morning I quit. I've been through 152 ounces/4.75 quarts of V8 in the last 24 hours or less.
While these physical withdrawal symptoms are running their course, I'm really thinking and planning on the future psychological withdrawals, as that's been my Achilles heel in the past, whether it was anger, hurt, disappointment, etc. I'm trying to figure out how to be a healthier "me" on the inside, so I can abstain from nicotine now and in the future.
If you get angry and want to scream at someone during your quit, you have my number. I will be more than happy to oblige.
As Pinched says, that is what we are all here for. When you get any of those feelings of anger or what-not, you get on the site here and type it out in your intro, throw it into the monthly thread or hop into the live chat and let it all hang out. We have all been there and used others as the same and now we are here to do that same for you.
Just yell when ever you need. And as you progress you will find the bond we all form here can extend far beyond to help keep you quit.
You can do this, it is not easy but with everyone here, it makes it as close to easy as possible.
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Thanks, guys/gals! I will use the numbers until I can get a feel for the roll call. I haven't used any of the nicotine gum.
I'm not trying to be funny or crass, but I don't ever remember having this much gas before when I stopped using nicotine. This is like something out of a freaking ghost story!! lol Plus I've been unusually craving V8 juice. I've always liked it, but started craving it the morning I quit. I've been through 152 ounces/4.75 quarts of V8 in the last 24 hours or less.
While these physical withdrawal symptoms are running their course, I'm really thinking and planning on the future psychological withdrawals, as that's been my Achilles heel in the past, whether it was anger, hurt, disappointment, etc. I'm trying to figure out how to be a healthier "me" on the inside, so I can abstain from nicotine now and in the future.
If you get angry and want to scream at someone during your quit, you have my number. I will be more than happy to oblige.
JW... you almost had the ROLL post... at least you were on the right page. I fixed it for you. Check out my post on that page now and see where your names is. You will get it. Keep trying. I will fix it again tomorrow if need be... I just want you staying quit today.
Forget about FUTURE withdrawal symptons or overthinking the "healthy you" right now. Bro, your only concern needs to be TODAY and staying quit today. Keep downing the V8 and do whatever it is you need to do to keep that poison out of your mouth. That needs to be your only priority. Too much thinking will stress you out. Focus on today, relax and stay quit. You are doing it and you can do this. Keep fighting bro! QLF!!!
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Jay,
Welcome and I'm glad you are here to save your life. Just like you I have been a dipper for many years. The gas is normal...my wife wanted to use my scott air pack my first week. 'arse'
We are all here to help and quit together!!! you will get numbers...use them..trust me it helps...
you are going into your first weekend quit - stock up on supliments...gum, candy, fake chew, seeds....find what works for you. The Smokey Mountain chew worked best my first couple weeks. Not using it alot now though. My first week started out pretty easy then the nic bitch hit me hard around day 3-4 and hung out for a solid week. The days are getting better, though I had a very realistic dream about dipping last night. I woke up PISSED!!!! I will send a PM with my contact info...
'oh yeah'
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I truly appreciate all of your replies! I will return to the favor to another person/new member when/as I can.
I will be going back home to my parents' house this weekend. My dad dips but he and I won't hang around that much. Almost none of my friends dip or smoke. I won't be around my dipping friend this weekend at all.
For me, getting through this week with all the other mountainous stressful events going on, loneliness, boredom, etc....I feel like this weekend and being around my friends and other people will help the cravings pass more gently. There are some undercurrents that I have not aired out here in my post...when I say a mountain of stress...that's exactly what I mean. I don't wish to go into details on such a public forum but I'll be glad to get away for a few days and get back home. Whew.
This does not involve me, but let's just say that I had an eye-opening experience that taught me "Addiction is just that--addiction; and, it doesn't matter what substance we choose to fill that need because it is still addiction." I began questioning how am I different that someone addicted to ___________(fill in the blank). My drug of choice is nicotine, while someone else's may be blah. Being an addict how am I any different than an addict for whatever their drug of choice is. That pissed me off to no end. Although, I wont get in a legal trouble for nicotine, my body functions the same as someone that is addicted to an illegal/unlawful substance, or a substance they lawfully obtain but unlawfully use.
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I truly appreciate all of your replies! I will return to the favor to another person/new member when/as I can.
I will be going back home to my parents' house this weekend. My dad dips but he and I won't hang around that much. Almost none of my friends dip or smoke. I won't be around my dipping friend this weekend at all.
For me, getting through this week with all the other mountainous stressful events going on, loneliness, boredom, etc....I feel like this weekend and being around my friends and other people will help the cravings pass more gently. There are some undercurrents that I have not aired out here in my post...when I say a mountain of stress...that's exactly what I mean. I don't wish to go into details on such a public forum but I'll be glad to get away for a few days and get back home. Whew.
This does not involve me, but let's just say that I had an eye-opening experience that taught me "Addiction is just that--addiction; and, it doesn't matter what substance we choose to fill that need because it is still addiction." I began questioning how am I different that someone addicted to ___________(fill in the blank). My drug of choice is nicotine, while someone else's may be blah. Being an addict how am I any different than an addict for whatever their drug of choice is. That pissed me off to no end. Although, I wont get in a legal trouble for nicotine, my body functions the same as someone that is addicted to an illegal/unlawful substance, or a substance they lawfully obtain but unlawfully use.
Weekends can be rough at first, be sure to get as many numbers into your phone as possible. Stay close to the site and read, read, read other peoples intro threads and hall of fame speeches.
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I truly appreciate all of your replies! I will return to the favor to another person/new member when/as I can.Â
I will be going back home to my parents' house this weekend. My dad dips but he and I won't hang around that much. Almost none of my friends dip or smoke. I won't be around my dipping friend this weekend at all.
For me, getting through this week with all the other mountainous stressful events going on, loneliness, boredom, etc....I feel like this weekend and being around my friends and other people will help the cravings pass more gently. There are some undercurrents that I have not aired out here in my post...when I say a mountain of stress...that's exactly what I mean. I don't wish to go into details on such a public forum but I'll be glad to get away for a few days and get back home. Whew.Â
This does not involve me, but let's just say that I had an eye-opening experience that taught me "Addiction is just that--addiction; and, it doesn't matter what substance we choose to fill that need because it is still addiction." I began questioning how am I different that someone addicted to ___________(fill in the blank). My drug of choice is nicotine, while someone else's may be blah. Being an addict how am I any different than an addict for whatever their drug of choice is. That pissed me off to no end. Although, I wont get in a legal trouble for nicotine, my body functions the same as someone that is addicted to an illegal/unlawful substance, or a substance they lawfully obtain but unlawfully use.
Weekends can be rough at first, be sure to get as many numbers into your phone as possible. Stay close to the site and read, read, read other peoples intro threads and hall of fame speeches.
stress isnt a good enough reason to cave... stay the course Jaydub
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I truly appreciate all of your replies! I will return to the favor to another person/new member when/as I can.Â
I will be going back home to my parents' house this weekend. My dad dips but he and I won't hang around that much. Almost none of my friends dip or smoke. I won't be around my dipping friend this weekend at all.
For me, getting through this week with all the other mountainous stressful events going on, loneliness, boredom, etc....I feel like this weekend and being around my friends and other people will help the cravings pass more gently. There are some undercurrents that I have not aired out here in my post...when I say a mountain of stress...that's exactly what I mean. I don't wish to go into details on such a public forum but I'll be glad to get away for a few days and get back home. Whew.Â
This does not involve me, but let's just say that I had an eye-opening experience that taught me "Addiction is just that--addiction; and, it doesn't matter what substance we choose to fill that need because it is still addiction." I began questioning how am I different that someone addicted to ___________(fill in the blank). My drug of choice is nicotine, while someone else's may be blah. Being an addict how am I any different than an addict for whatever their drug of choice is. That pissed me off to no end. Although, I wont get in a legal trouble for nicotine, my body functions the same as someone that is addicted to an illegal/unlawful substance, or a substance they lawfully obtain but unlawfully use.
Weekends can be rough at first, be sure to get as many numbers into your phone as possible. Stay close to the site and read, read, read other peoples intro threads and hall of fame speeches.
stress isnt a good enough reason to cave... stay the course Jaydub
Jaydub,
I hear you about the high stress level. But think about disfiguring jaw surgery, tounge/throat removal and feeding tubes. Think about what you might say to those who love your the most as you lay in your hospital bed and succumb to the effects of cancer. I mean, does that tend to increase or decrease your stress level?
NICOTINE will not make ANYTHING in your life better. It can only make your life exponetially worse.
YOU have made a great choice, Jaydub!!! Let's find an alternative way to deal with stress...exercise, reading, live chat, jerking off (or not...whatever...forget I mentioned that last thing).
Make sure your mindset is right...you're not quitting forever. Nobody is quitting forever. All you are doing is getting through one day nic free. Forget about tomorrow, next week, next month, or whatever. Just focus on today. Anybody can get through one day, right? That is all we ask...post roll and give your word that you won't dip today. We'll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.
YOU CAN DO THIS, BROTHER!!! YOU CAN STAY QUIT!!!
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Thanks, guys/gals! I will use the numbers until I can get a feel for the roll call. I haven't used any of the nicotine gum.
I'm not trying to be funny or crass, but I don't ever remember having this much gas before when I stopped using nicotine. This is like something out of a freaking ghost story!! lol Plus I've been unusually craving V8 juice. I've always liked it, but started craving it the morning I quit. I've been through 152 ounces/4.75 quarts of V8 in the last 24 hours or less.
While these physical withdrawal symptoms are running their course, I'm really thinking and planning on the future psychological withdrawals, as that's been my Achilles heel in the past, whether it was anger, hurt, disappointment, etc. I'm trying to figure out how to be a healthier "me" on the inside, so I can abstain from nicotine now and in the future.
I had so much gas my wife had to start sleeping in the guest bedroom, I my secretary kept my office door closed!!! Hang in there it gets better!!
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Stress isnt a reason to start...but I was discouraged from trying to quit right now with all the things going on. I said NOPE...and quit anyway. Ive been working my way through this one day at a time. I have kept nic gum in my pocket the entire time. I even keep my breath mints and my trident gum in the same pocket as my nic gum. I have to choose not to use the nic gum every time. I am forcing myself to choose an alternative to nic. So far it is working. Im hoping to build confidence, not arrogance. At times it has made my cravings even more intense knowing that I could reach in my pocket and satisfy it--somewhat. I just felt like I needed to do it this way so that if I was able to make it to the 3rd day and beyond with no nicotine, then I could prove to myself that I dont need to satisfy a craving at any point, especially if I can survive the days that the cravings are most intense. Hope all that makes sense?!
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Stress isnt a reason to start...but I was discouraged from trying to quit right now with all the things going on. I said NOPE...and quit anyway. Ive been working my way through this one day at a time. I have kept nic gum in my pocket the entire time. I even keep my breath mints and my trident gum in the same pocket as my nic gum. I have to choose not to use the nic gum every time. I am forcing myself to choose an alternative to nic. So far it is working. Im hoping to build confidence, not arrogance. At times it has made my cravings even more intense knowing that I could reach in my pocket and satisfy it--somewhat. I just felt like I needed to do it this way so that if I was able to make it to the 3rd day and beyond with no nicotine, then I could prove to myself that I dont need to satisfy a craving at any point, especially if I can survive the days that the cravings are most intense. Hope all that makes sense?!
Well Jaydubya I commend you on taking the step into freedom. I don't know about the whole nic gum thing, personally I wouldn't quit with that temptation right there. I'm proud of you for being strong enough to resist but I think you should ditch it. You have joined a brotherhood here and all the resources you need to quit are right here at your fingertips. I am sending you a message with my number if you ever need anything.
Bill
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Stress isnt a reason to start...but I was discouraged from trying to quit right now with all the things going on. I said NOPE...and quit anyway. Ive been working my way through this one day at a time. I have kept nic gum in my pocket the entire time. I even keep my breath mints and my trident gum in the same pocket as my nic gum. I have to choose not to use the nic gum every time. I am forcing myself to choose an alternative to nic. So far it is working. Im hoping to build confidence, not arrogance. At times it has made my cravings even more intense knowing that I could reach in my pocket and satisfy it--somewhat. I just felt like I needed to do it this way so that if I was able to make it to the 3rd day and beyond with no nicotine, then I could prove to myself that I dont need to satisfy a craving at any point, especially if I can survive the days that the cravings are most intense. Hope all that makes sense?!
I see you mentioned the nicotine gum again, this is a 100% nicotine free site. Posting roll means you are 100% quit of nicotine in ANY form. That's great if you have not used it but kindly THROW THAT SHIT OUT IMMEDIETELY!
We go or go home here Jay, all in, no excuses.
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Stress isnt a reason to start...but I was discouraged from trying to quit right now with all the things going on. I said NOPE...and quit anyway. Ive been working my way through this one day at a time. I have kept nic gum in my pocket the entire time. I even keep my breath mints and my trident gum in the same pocket as my nic gum. I have to choose not to use the nic gum every time. IÂ am forcing myself to choose an alternative to nic. So far it is working. Im hoping to build confidence, not arrogance. At times it has made my cravings even more intense knowing that I could reach in my pocket and satisfy it--somewhat. I just felt like I needed to do it this way so that if I was able to make it to the 3rd day and beyond with no nicotine, then I could prove to myself that I dont need to satisfy a craving at any point, especially if I can survive the days that the cravings are most intense. Hope all that makes sense?!
Well Jaydubya I commend you on taking the step into freedom. I don't know about the whole nic gum thing, personally I wouldn't quit with that temptation right there. I'm proud of you for being strong enough to resist but I think you should ditch it. You have joined a brotherhood here and all the resources you need to quit are right here at your fingertips. I am sending you a message with my number if you ever need anything.
Bill
Ya, toss the nic gum. You wouldn't carry around the can of skoal would you? it is just a bad idea to have nic in your pocket. Nic is the drug, and the addict part of us will try to find any way to convince us to get it in our system. If it has the chance to tell you to use nic to stop nic, it will. And even though it seems ludicrous, we will believe it. Heck, you already halfway do believe it or you wouldn't have it with you.
All of us have managed, you can too.
You've got this brother.
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Stress isnt a reason to start...but I was discouraged from trying to quit right now with all the things going on. I said NOPE...and quit anyway. Ive been working my way through this one day at a time. I have kept nic gum in my pocket the entire time. I even keep my breath mints and my trident gum in the same pocket as my nic gum. I have to choose not to use the nic gum every time. IÂ am forcing myself to choose an alternative to nic. So far it is working. Im hoping to build confidence, not arrogance. At times it has made my cravings even more intense knowing that I could reach in my pocket and satisfy it--somewhat. I just felt like I needed to do it this way so that if I was able to make it to the 3rd day and beyond with no nicotine, then I could prove to myself that I dont need to satisfy a craving at any point, especially if I can survive the days that the cravings are most intense. Hope all that makes sense?!
Well Jaydubya I commend you on taking the step into freedom. I don't know about the whole nic gum thing, personally I wouldn't quit with that temptation right there. I'm proud of you for being strong enough to resist but I think you should ditch it. You have joined a brotherhood here and all the resources you need to quit are right here at your fingertips. I am sending you a message with my number if you ever need anything.
Bill
Thanks. I don't plan on keeping the nic gum around long at all. It was mainly for the first few days.
I've used nic gum in the past and know that I can use it without dipping, but that still puts me buying expensive ass gum that has me addicted to the nicotine in it. I don't want to be addicted to the gum either. I want to be nicotine FREE. Period.
I counted up today that it has been 10 years since I have been nicotine free. The last time I went without nicotine, I was 28 years old, and that lasted for around 5 months, give or take. Since that time, I've had nicotine in my body whether through dipping, smoking a cig, or chewing gum. I'm looking forward to being nicotine free.
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Stress isnt a reason to start...but I was discouraged from trying to quit right now with all the things going on. I said NOPE...and quit anyway. Ive been working my way through this one day at a time. I have kept nic gum in my pocket the entire time. I even keep my breath mints and my trident gum in the same pocket as my nic gum. I have to choose not to use the nic gum every time. IÂ am forcing myself to choose an alternative to nic. So far it is working. Im hoping to build confidence, not arrogance. At times it has made my cravings even more intense knowing that I could reach in my pocket and satisfy it--somewhat. I just felt like I needed to do it this way so that if I was able to make it to the 3rd day and beyond with no nicotine, then I could prove to myself that I dont need to satisfy a craving at any point, especially if I can survive the days that the cravings are most intense. Hope all that makes sense?!
Well Jaydubya I commend you on taking the step into freedom. I don't know about the whole nic gum thing, personally I wouldn't quit with that temptation right there. I'm proud of you for being strong enough to resist but I think you should ditch it. You have joined a brotherhood here and all the resources you need to quit are right here at your fingertips. I am sending you a message with my number if you ever need anything.
Bill
Thanks. I don't plan on keeping the nic gum around long at all. It was mainly for the first few days.
I've used nic gum in the past and know that I can use it without dipping, but that still puts me buying expensive ass gum that has me addicted to the nicotine in it. I don't want to be addicted to the gum either. I want to be nicotine FREE. Period.
I counted up today that it has been 10 years since I have been nicotine free. The last time I went without nicotine, I was 28 years old, and that lasted for around 5 months, give or take. Since that time, I've had nicotine in my body whether through dipping, smoking a cig, or chewing gum. I'm looking forward to being nicotine free.
Ok.... I don't wanna be the asshat here but I don't think your catching on yet Jay. You posted roll with December, so you are Nicotine free already? If you aren't then you need to post Day 1 not 3. If you are Nic free great, quit jerking off about the gum, throw it out and start guzzling some KTC Kool-Aid.
Your getting some great advice thrown at you but I don't see you buying in yet.
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To clarify...I have had absolutely ZERO nicotine in my body since I spit out my last dip at 10:30 PM, Tuesday night on Sept 10, 2013. I began counting Sept 11, 2013 as my quit date. I still had one dip remaining and I emptied it out in the toilet first thing that morning.
I am not interested in a gradual cessation program at all. I think that drags it out and makes it worse.
With the nic gum in my pocket and not using it whatsoever, it has been my final 'Finger' to the nicotine.
I have had a TON of stressful things pressing on me outside of quitting, but I didn't let that deter me either...as in serious, life altering things...If I could stop using nicotine with those things going on, and also not use nicotine while having easy access to nic gum in my pocket, then my mindset and actions are in the right place. My mom tried to discourage me from quitting right now, as well as a couple close friends. (None of them have a nicotine addiction or dependency).
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To clarify...I have had absolutely ZERO nicotine in my body since I spit out my last dip at 10:30 PM, Tuesday night on Sept 10, 2013. I began counting Sept 11, 2013 as my quit date. I still had one dip remaining and I emptied it out in the toilet first thing that morning.
I am not interested in a gradual cessation program at all. I think that drags it out and makes it worse.
With the nic gum in my pocket and not using it whatsoever, it has been my final 'Finger' to the nicotine.
I have had a TON of stressful things pressing on me outside of quitting, but I didn't let that deter me either...as in serious, life altering things...If I could stop using nicotine with those things going on, and also not use nicotine while having easy access to nic gum in my pocket, then my mindset and actions are in the right place. My mom tried to discourage me from quitting right now, as well as a couple close friends. (None of them have a nicotine addiction or dependency).
I don't want to discourage you man.... but you still sound like someone who hasn't quite jumped in with both feet. I'm not sure what else to say....it's pretty well laid out by the quitters who have given you advice already.
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To clarify...I have had absolutely ZERO nicotine in my body since I spit out my last dip at 10:30 PM, Tuesday night on Sept 10, 2013. I began counting Sept 11, 2013 as my quit date. I still had one dip remaining and I emptied it out in the toilet first thing that morning.
I am not interested in a gradual cessation program at all. I think that drags it out and makes it worse.
With the nic gum in my pocket and not using it whatsoever, it has been my final 'Finger' to the nicotine.
I have had a TON of stressful things pressing on me outside of quitting, but I didn't let that deter me either...as in serious, life altering things...If I could stop using nicotine with those things going on, and also not use nicotine while having easy access to nic gum in my pocket, then my mindset and actions are in the right place. My mom tried to discourage me from quitting right now, as well as a couple close friends. (None of them have a nicotine addiction or dependency).
JLud007 is on point. You aren't seeing it.
You have a bunch of reasons why you need nic in your pocket, and why your own special way is better. That isn't you, that is the nicbitch talking, but you haven't been around here long enough to hear her voice yet. IT will come.
In the meantime, know this. . We are all quit because we took the advice of those that came before us on KTC. Once we truly understood it, we started passing it on ourselves.
This site has the path to quit. IF you walk it, you will be quit. IF you believe your own addict brain knows better, you probably won't be quit long.
The path... follow the path. it is well worn by 15000 KTC member and it leads directly to Quitsville.
I promise you that you are less likely to use nicotine if you have to make a conscious decision to go to the store and buy it that if you just have to reach in your pocket.
THe KTC way works... why not just trust it for a while. PM me if you need a number
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To clarify...I have had absolutely ZERO nicotine in my body since I spit out my last dip at 10:30 PM, Tuesday night on Sept 10, 2013. I began counting Sept 11, 2013 as my quit date. I still had one dip remaining and I emptied it out in the toilet first thing that morning.Â
I am not interested in a gradual cessation program at all. I think that drags it out and makes it worse.Â
With the nic gum in my pocket and not using it whatsoever, it has been my final 'Finger' to the nicotine.
I have had a TON of stressful things pressing on me outside of quitting, but I didn't let that deter me either...as in serious, life altering things...If I could stop using nicotine with those things going on, and also not use nicotine while having easy access to nic gum in my pocket, then my mindset and actions are in the right place. My mom tried to discourage me from quitting right now, as well as a couple close friends. (None of them have a nicotine addiction or dependency).
I don't want to discourage you man.... but you still sound like someone who hasn't quite jumped in with both feet. I'm not sure what else to say....it's pretty well laid out by the quitters who have given you advice already.
Fuck stress. You need to make a adult decision. Quit or no quit. There is no pussy footing around with nicotine. You know what happens with Nicotine gum? Your $15/week addiction turns into a $40/week addiction. First it is gum, then it's lozonges, then it's patches. It fucking doesn't work. Drink the KTC koolaid. I want to call you a brother and welcome you with open arms but you must now make a decision. Get rid of the gum and post roll with us or don't.
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To clarify...I have had absolutely ZERO nicotine in my body since I spit out my last dip at 10:30 PM, Tuesday night on Sept 10, 2013. I began counting Sept 11, 2013 as my quit date. I still had one dip remaining and I emptied it out in the toilet first thing that morning.Â
I am not interested in a gradual cessation program at all. I think that drags it out and makes it worse.Â
With the nic gum in my pocket and not using it whatsoever, it has been my final 'Finger' to the nicotine.
I have had a TON of stressful things pressing on me outside of quitting, but I didn't let that deter me either...as in serious, life altering things...If I could stop using nicotine with those things going on, and also not use nicotine while having easy access to nic gum in my pocket, then my mindset and actions are in the right place. My mom tried to discourage me from quitting right now, as well as a couple close friends. (None of them have a nicotine addiction or dependency).
I don't want to discourage you man.... but you still sound like someone who hasn't quite jumped in with both feet. I'm not sure what else to say....it's pretty well laid out by the quitters who have given you advice already.
All in. Just had to survive without nicotine while having easy access. If I couldn't cold turkey it with easy access then I couldn't have done cold turkey at all. That is just me and the way my quirky mind works. If my addict mind was in control, I would have caved in already. Plenty of excuses I could use to justify it in my mind....plenty of opportunity too, but it is a breakthrough for me to not have used the nic gum.
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To clarify...I have had absolutely ZERO nicotine in my body since I spit out my last dip at 10:30 PM, Tuesday night on Sept 10, 2013. I began counting Sept 11, 2013 as my quit date. I still had one dip remaining and I emptied it out in the toilet first thing that morning.Â
I am not interested in a gradual cessation program at all. I think that drags it out and makes it worse.Â
With the nic gum in my pocket and not using it whatsoever, it has been my final 'Finger' to the nicotine.
I have had a TON of stressful things pressing on me outside of quitting, but I didn't let that deter me either...as in serious, life altering things...If I could stop using nicotine with those things going on, and also not use nicotine while having easy access to nic gum in my pocket, then my mindset and actions are in the right place. My mom tried to discourage me from quitting right now, as well as a couple close friends. (None of them have a nicotine addiction or dependency).
I don't want to discourage you man.... but you still sound like someone who hasn't quite jumped in with both feet. I'm not sure what else to say....it's pretty well laid out by the quitters who have given you advice already.
All in. Just had to survive without nicotine while having easy access. If I couldn't cold turkey it with easy access then I couldn't have done cold turkey at all. That is just me and the way my quirky mind works. If my addict mind was in control, I would have caved in already. Plenty of excuses I could use to justify it in my mind....plenty of opportunity too, but it is a breakthrough for me to not have used the nic gum.
Some oral cancer pics (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/cancer-pictures/)
Just something to think about.
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To clarify...I have had absolutely ZERO nicotine in my body since I spit out my last dip at 10:30 PM, Tuesday night on Sept 10, 2013. I began counting Sept 11, 2013 as my quit date. I still had one dip remaining and I emptied it out in the toilet first thing that morning.Â
I am not interested in a gradual cessation program at all. I think that drags it out and makes it worse.Â
With the nic gum in my pocket and not using it whatsoever, it has been my final 'Finger' to the nicotine.
I have had a TON of stressful things pressing on me outside of quitting, but I didn't let that deter me either...as in serious, life altering things...If I could stop using nicotine with those things going on, and also not use nicotine while having easy access to nic gum in my pocket, then my mindset and actions are in the right place. My mom tried to discourage me from quitting right now, as well as a couple close friends. (None of them have a nicotine addiction or dependency).
I don't want to discourage you man.... but you still sound like someone who hasn't quite jumped in with both feet. I'm not sure what else to say....it's pretty well laid out by the quitters who have given you advice already.
Fuck stress. You need to make a adult decision. Quit or no quit. There is no pussy footing around with nicotine. You know what happens with Nicotine gum? Your $15/week addiction turns into a $40/week addiction. First it is gum, then it's lozonges, then it's patches. It fucking doesn't work. Drink the KTC koolaid. I want to call you a brother and welcome you with open arms but you must now make a decision. Get rid of the gum and post roll with us or don't.
I already know it doesn't work. That's why I have to break my 2nd go to source. Gum. Done it many times. Like I said in my first post...I can chew 3-4 4mg pieces and blow bubbles with it.
I HAVE to break the urge by having easy access. If y'all don't do it that way, ok...but I have to.
And, as far as stress....adult decision...whoever it was said that, doesn't have a clue what is going on. And, I did make an adult decision and quit regardless of what all else is going on, in addition to my mom saying not a good time, 2 close friends saying not a good time...I said I'm quitting and doing it regardless. I chose to quit even with this crap going on.
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I know it is hard. It is the hardest things you will ever do. Let me ask you a question. What if you instead of keeping nicotine in your pocket you swap it out with Smokey Mountain which is a non-tobbaco herbal chew? It looks and tastes the same. Wouldn't that be better having that in your pocket rather than Nicotine?
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To clarify...I have had absolutely ZERO nicotine in my body since I spit out my last dip at 10:30 PM, Tuesday night on Sept 10, 2013. I began counting Sept 11, 2013 as my quit date. I still had one dip remaining and I emptied it out in the toilet first thing that morning.Â
I am not interested in a gradual cessation program at all. I think that drags it out and makes it worse.Â
With the nic gum in my pocket and not using it whatsoever, it has been my final 'Finger' to the nicotine.
I have had a TON of stressful things pressing on me outside of quitting, but I didn't let that deter me either...as in serious, life altering things...If I could stop using nicotine with those things going on, and also not use nicotine while having easy access to nic gum in my pocket, then my mindset and actions are in the right place. My mom tried to discourage me from quitting right now, as well as a couple close friends. (None of them have a nicotine addiction or dependency).
I don't want to discourage you man.... but you still sound like someone who hasn't quite jumped in with both feet. I'm not sure what else to say....it's pretty well laid out by the quitters who have given you advice already.
Fuck stress. You need to make a adult decision. Quit or no quit. There is no pussy footing around with nicotine. You know what happens with Nicotine gum? Your $15/week addiction turns into a $40/week addiction. First it is gum, then it's lozonges, then it's patches. It fucking doesn't work. Drink the KTC koolaid. I want to call you a brother and welcome you with open arms but you must now make a decision. Get rid of the gum and post roll with us or don't.
I already know it doesn't work. That's why I have to break my 2nd go to source. Gum. Done it many times. Like I said in my first post...I can chew 3-4 4mg pieces and blow bubbles with it.
I HAVE to break the urge by having easy access. If y'all don't do it that way, ok...but I have to.
And, as far as stress....adult decision...whoever it was said that, doesn't have a clue what is going on. And, I did make an adult decision and quit regardless of what all else is going on, in addition to my mom saying not a good time, 2 close friends saying not a good time...I said I'm quitting and doing it regardless. I chose to quit even with this crap going on.
well done so far Jay -
what the concern is about is that nic gum that you have hanging around. You are right that you need to get rid of that dependence on nicotene in any form, so why not dispose of that gum and replace it with trident or another sugarfree variety (hell after almost 440 days I still carry a little sucrets tin around with some trident and sugarfree candy in it).
In the beginning it is do whatever it takes, trident, candy, seeds, toothpicks,....whatever to keep nicotene out of your body, and also remove any temptation....
And you have made the right decision as the only good time to quit is yesterday....and continue to quit today...and each and every day that follows.
I quit beside you today
SirDerek
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I know it is hard. It is the hardest things you will ever do. Let me ask you a question. What if you instead of keeping nicotine in your pocket you swap it out with Smokey Mountain which is a non-tobbaco herbal chew? It looks and tastes the same. Wouldn't that be better having that in your pocket rather than Nicotine?
The thought of something shaped like a can of snuff/dip in my pocket causes me to have anxiety in and of itself. That will be out for me. The nicotine gum was to be there during the hardest/highest peak of withdrawal symptoms, so I could push through or fail early on. I pushed through.
I understand the temptation, flirtation, etc....again, that was for during my peak times with my withdrawal symptoms at their worst. I made it through and feel encouraged. It makes me more proud and feel more confidence that I could go this long without taking any form of nicotine, although I had easy access to it in my pocket. I needed that for ME.
(Edited for minor grammatical correction)
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I know it is hard. It is the hardest things you will ever do. Let me ask you a question. What if you instead of keeping nicotine in your pocket you swap it out with Smokey Mountain which is a non-tobbaco herbal chew? It looks and tastes the same. Wouldn't that be better having that in your pocket rather than Nicotine?
The thought of something shaped like a can of snuff/dip in my pocket causes me to have anxiety in and of itself. That will be out for me. The nicotine gum was to be there during the hardest/highest peak of withdrawal symptoms, so I could push through or fail early on. I pushed through.
I understand the temptation, flirtation, etc....again, that was for during my peak times with my withdrawal symptoms at their worst. I made it through and feel encouraged. It makes me more proud and feel more confidence that I could go this long without taking any form of nicotine, although I had easy access to it in my pocket. I needed that for ME.
(Edited for minor grammatical correction)
:scowick:
I hope you prove other wise brother.
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I know it is hard. It is the hardest things you will ever do. Let me ask you a question. What if you instead of keeping nicotine in your pocket you swap it out with Smokey Mountain which is a non-tobbaco herbal chew? It looks and tastes the same. Wouldn't that be better having that in your pocket rather than Nicotine?
The thought of something shaped like a can of snuff/dip in my pocket causes me to have anxiety in and of itself. That will be out for me. The nicotine gum was to be there during the hardest/highest peak of withdrawal symptoms, so I could push through or fail early on. I pushed through.
I understand the temptation, flirtation, etc....again, that was for during my peak times with my withdrawal symptoms at their worst. I made it through and feel encouraged. It makes me more proud and feel more confidence that I could go this long without taking any form of nicotine, although I had easy access to it in my pocket. I needed that for ME.
(Edited for minor grammatical correction)
:scowick:
I hope you prove other wise brother.
Just to jump in, the actual withdrawal symptoms of nicotine (not the mental shit that goes on for a LOOOOONG time), but the physical withdrawal is gone when that last bit of nicotine is out of your system at 72 hours. If you spit out your last dip and havent touched nicotine since sept 10 @ 10:30, you are pretty damn close to the 72 hour mark now. Why not flush the gum, since you have already made it through the very worst of it all?
What you think is a life vest will very quickly become an anchor....
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I know it is hard. It is the hardest things you will ever do. Let me ask you a question. What if you instead of keeping nicotine in your pocket you swap it out with Smokey Mountain which is a non-tobbaco herbal chew? It looks and tastes the same. Wouldn't that be better having that in your pocket rather than Nicotine?
The thought of something shaped like a can of snuff/dip in my pocket causes me to have anxiety in and of itself. That will be out for me. The nicotine gum was to be there during the hardest/highest peak of withdrawal symptoms, so I could push through or fail early on. I pushed through.
I understand the temptation, flirtation, etc....again, that was for during my peak times with my withdrawal symptoms at their worst. I made it through and feel encouraged. It makes me more proud and feel more confidence that I could go this long without taking any form of nicotine, although I had easy access to it in my pocket. I needed that for ME.
(Edited for minor grammatical correction)
:scowick:
I hope you prove other wise brother.
Just to jump in, the actual withdrawal symptoms of nicotine (not the mental shit that goes on for a LOOOOONG time), but the physical withdrawal is gone when that last bit of nicotine is out of your system at 72 hours. If you spit out your last dip and havent touched nicotine since sept 10 @ 10:30, you are pretty damn close to the 72 hour mark now. Why not flush the gum, since you have already made it through the very worst of it all?
What you think is a life vest will very quickly become an anchor....
Exactly!!!!!!!
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Now that y'all mention the fartn thing. Yep. Just call me breezy.
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Now that y'all mention the fartn thing. Yep. Just call me breezy.
Hoping this gas stage passes quickly!
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Now that y'all mention the fartn thing. Yep. Just call me breezy.
Hoping this gas stage passes quickly!
oh boy.....I had the rootin tootin's for about 2 weeks early on in my quit.
never the stench but I gave a trumpet its run for the money...... 'crackup'
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Now that y'all mention the fartn thing. Yep. Just call me breezy.
Hoping this gas stage passes quickly!
oh boy.....I had the rootin tootin's for about 2 weeks early on in my quit.
never the stench but I gave a trumpet its run for the money...... 'crackup'
Hahaha!!! Ready for that phase to pass on by.
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Day 4 and no nicotine. Starting to see more support from my friends and family. That helps. One of my friends offered to punch me in the head if I even mention wanting a dip later...lol.
I am thankful for all who post, even when they talk about how bad they are feeling or how much better they feel. I know when I woke up this morning there was a difference in the intensity that my body craved nicotine. It was much less but still there.
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Jaydubya,
Congrats man. Keep hanging in there. You really are at the point where each day will be a bit better than the day before. At the least, if its not better, at least your body and system is getting adjusted to dealing with life without nicotine.
Hey, I still haven't seen you post roll. Roll call is important and can't be done without here. Think of it like this. It's not stepping up to a line for the day. Instead, it's stepping over a line. And promising yourself and the December quit group, that nothing on the face of Gods green earth will be able to push you backwards across it. That promise is only for one day. One.
Only you can make that promise. Find the info on how to post. Print it out. Stick it in your pocket. Get it out first thing in the morning and post roll. Making that promise to yourself and to all of us is one of the major keys in the success of the system of this site. Now go Get R Done bro !!!
Gdubya
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Glad to hear your quit today Jaydub, I hope you tossed the gum and all now......
Posting roll is at the heart of everything we do here and below is a link with step by step on how to do it. I'll quit with you today!
Posting Roll Instructions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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Gdubya,
Working on learning how to roll call. I will get on that Monday Morning at work.
Jludoo7,
Im not carrying any gum on me. I do have some in my overnight bag that is at my parents' house. I dont even have it with me here at my bud's house. I will toss that out. You have my word on it. I needed to have days of no nicotine while carrying it around with me. It was a personal thing since I have caved with the gum before. I had to beat the gum too. Now, I know the physical symptoms are way less and mostly in my mind.
Thanks for the encouragement!
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Gdubya,
Working on learning how to roll call. I will get on that Monday Morning at work.
Jludoo7,
Im not carrying any gum on me. I do have some in my overnight bag that is at my parents' house. I dont even have it with me here at my bud's house. I will toss that out. You have my word on it. I needed to have days of no nicotine while carrying it around with me. It was a personal thing since I have caved with the gum before. I had to beat the gum too. Now, I know the physical symptoms are way less and mostly in my mind.
Thanks for the encouragement!
Carrying nic gum around with you to prove a point is about the dumbest thing I have heard. Throw it out when you get back to your overnight bag. What are you trying to prove. Dump it and quit screwing around here. You are 4 days quit and the nicotine is out of your system. Why tempt fate. The nicotine gum is just another delivery system to keep you addicted. If you decide to throw one in you are back to square 1. Dump it!
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Gdubya,
Working on learning how to roll call. I will get on that Monday Morning at work.
Jludoo7,
Im not carrying any gum on me. I do have some in my overnight bag that is at my parents' house. I dont even have it with me here at my bud's house. I will toss that out. You have my word on it. I needed to have days of no nicotine while carrying it around with me. It was a personal thing since I have caved with the gum before. I had to beat the gum too. Now, I know the physical symptoms are way less and mostly in my mind.
Thanks for the encouragement!
Carrying nic gum around with you to prove a point is about the dumbest thing I have heard. Throw it out when you get back to your overnight bag. What are you trying to prove. Dump it and quit screwing around here. You are 4 days quit and the nicotine is out of your system. Why tempt fate. The nicotine gum is just another delivery system to keep you addicted. If you decide to throw one in you are back to square 1. Dump it!
Welcome friend. Been reading through your intro and i got to ask. How bad do you want this? Right now you got your feet dangling in the edge of the quit pool.
You rseeeeeaaaaallly want your life back you got to take it. Jump all the way in. Trash your stash, post roll and let's quit together. I got nothing better to do and neither does derk.
4 days,, you're doing it, no reason you can't do it today also. Glad to be quit with you.
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I saw your roll post. Nice!! Now your quitting bro. Way to jump all the way in the quit pool.
5 days of freedom. Here's what you need to do. Find the tallest building you can. Head to the top of that building. Now take a look around poison free. Freedom,,, smell it, taste it and feel it brother. Take a good look at the world without nicotine blurring your vision and desensitizing your emotions. Soak in the oxygen that your brain was being deprived.
ONE DAY AT A TIME and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON and you can keep it. You need a number let me know.
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I saw your roll post. Nice!! Now your quitting bro. Way to jump all the way in the quit pool.
5 days of freedom. Here's what you need to do. Find the tallest building you can. Head to the top of that building. Now take a look around poison free. Freedom,,, smell it, taste it and feel it brother. Take a good look at the world without nicotine blurring your vision and desensitizing your emotions. Soak in the oxygen that your brain was being deprived.
ONE DAY AT A TIME and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON and you can keep it. You need a number let me know.
Awesome job posting roll! Ur doing it. 5 days of freedom is great bro! Keep fighting today. Stay quit!
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That is great that you have been nicotine free for 5 days. I will quit with you everyday brother.
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
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That is great that you have been nicotine free for 5 days. I will quit with you everyday brother.
Btw, I love that Yoda quote and use it all the time!
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
6 days of quit is bada$$ brother! Way to dump that gum... u don't need it. That is not the way to quit. Cold turkey. I like how you did not just throw that hidden tin of poison away in the trash. You did to it what should have been done to it... flushed it right down the toilet. That is how you do it! If you find any other stash... do the exact same thing to it.
Keep reading on the site and keep learning. You can do this. You are early so be ready to fight today if the nic B rears her ugly hear.
QLF with you today!
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
6 days of quit is bada$$ brother! Way to dump that gum... u don't need it. That is not the way to quit. Cold turkey. I like how you did not just throw that hidden tin of poison away in the trash. You did to it what should have been done to it... flushed it right down the toilet. That is how you do it! If you find any other stash... do the exact same thing to it.
Keep reading on the site and keep learning. You can do this. You are early so be ready to fight today if the nic B rears her ugly hear.
QLF with you today!
Thanks! There has been a lot of stress today, so I fought fire with fire. I googled pics of mouth cancer and began shaking from the anxiety. Stress-induced dipping is out of my mind, to say the least.
Now, I've probably scared myself a little more than I should. I don't know.
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
6 days of quit is bada$$ brother! Way to dump that gum... u don't need it. That is not the way to quit. Cold turkey. I like how you did not just throw that hidden tin of poison away in the trash. You did to it what should have been done to it... flushed it right down the toilet. That is how you do it! If you find any other stash... do the exact same thing to it.
Keep reading on the site and keep learning. You can do this. You are early so be ready to fight today if the nic B rears her ugly hear.
QLF with you today!
Thanks! There has been a lot of stress today, so I fought fire with fire. I googled pics of mouth cancer and began shaking from the anxiety. Stress-induced dipping is out of my mind, to say the least.
Now, I've probably scared myself a little more than I should. I don't know.
Cancer pics... That is a good crave killer. And no you haven't scared yourself too much. That is what will happen to you! Dip will kill you. Know that. This is serious business and that is whey quitting is so important.
What else you using to help with craves... fake, gum, seeds, candy, food?, Exercise, push ups, a run and some sort of physical activity will help immensely. Use and do whatever it takes to stay quit today.
Keep fighting bro! All you have to do is stay quit today! You can do this!
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
6 days of quit is bada$$ brother! Way to dump that gum... u don't need it. That is not the way to quit. Cold turkey. I like how you did not just throw that hidden tin of poison away in the trash. You did to it what should have been done to it... flushed it right down the toilet. That is how you do it! If you find any other stash... do the exact same thing to it.
Keep reading on the site and keep learning. You can do this. You are early so be ready to fight today if the nic B rears her ugly hear.
QLF with you today!
Thanks! There has been a lot of stress today, so I fought fire with fire. I googled pics of mouth cancer and began shaking from the anxiety. Stress-induced dipping is out of my mind, to say the least.
Now, I've probably scared myself a little more than I should. I don't know.
Cancer pics... That is a good crave killer. And no you haven't scared yourself too much. That is what will happen to you! Dip will kill you. Know that. This is serious business and that is whey quitting is so important.
What else you using to help with craves... fake, gum, seeds, candy, food?, Exercise, push ups, a run and some sort of physical activity will help immensely. Use and do whatever it takes to stay quit today.
Keep fighting bro! All you have to do is stay quit today! You can do this!
Now I keep running to the freaking bathroom at work, using my phone as a flash light and looking in my mouth.
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
6 days of quit is bada$$ brother! Way to dump that gum... u don't need it. That is not the way to quit. Cold turkey. I like how you did not just throw that hidden tin of poison away in the trash. You did to it what should have been done to it... flushed it right down the toilet. That is how you do it! If you find any other stash... do the exact same thing to it.
Keep reading on the site and keep learning. You can do this. You are early so be ready to fight today if the nic B rears her ugly hear.
QLF with you today!
Thanks! There has been a lot of stress today, so I fought fire with fire. I googled pics of mouth cancer and began shaking from the anxiety. Stress-induced dipping is out of my mind, to say the least.
Now, I've probably scared myself a little more than I should. I don't know.
Cancer pics... That is a good crave killer. And no you haven't scared yourself too much. That is what will happen to you! Dip will kill you. Know that. This is serious business and that is whey quitting is so important.
What else you using to help with craves... fake, gum, seeds, candy, food?, Exercise, push ups, a run and some sort of physical activity will help immensely. Use and do whatever it takes to stay quit today.
Keep fighting bro! All you have to do is stay quit today! You can do this!
Now I keep running to the freaking bathroom at work, using my phone as a flash light and looking in my mouth.
Try to relax. The pictures are of what "would" happen to you. Not necessarily of what "is" happening to you.
If there is an issue, then go to the Dr. and have yourself checked out. But in the interim, stay quit today!
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
6 days of quit is bada$$ brother! Way to dump that gum... u don't need it. That is not the way to quit. Cold turkey. I like how you did not just throw that hidden tin of poison away in the trash. You did to it what should have been done to it... flushed it right down the toilet. That is how you do it! If you find any other stash... do the exact same thing to it.
Keep reading on the site and keep learning. You can do this. You are early so be ready to fight today if the nic B rears her ugly hear.
QLF with you today!
Thanks! There has been a lot of stress today, so I fought fire with fire. I googled pics of mouth cancer and began shaking from the anxiety. Stress-induced dipping is out of my mind, to say the least.
Now, I've probably scared myself a little more than I should. I don't know.
Cancer pics... That is a good crave killer. And no you haven't scared yourself too much. That is what will happen to you! Dip will kill you. Know that. This is serious business and that is whey quitting is so important.
What else you using to help with craves... fake, gum, seeds, candy, food?, Exercise, push ups, a run and some sort of physical activity will help immensely. Use and do whatever it takes to stay quit today.
Keep fighting bro! All you have to do is stay quit today! You can do this!
Now I keep running to the freaking bathroom at work, using my phone as a flash light and looking in my mouth.
Try to relax. The pictures are of what "would" happen to you. Not necessarily of what "is" happening to you.
If there is an issue, then go to the Dr. and have yourself checked out. But in the interim, stay quit today!
I'm staying quit. To do otherwise is not an option.
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
6 days of quit is bada$$ brother! Way to dump that gum... u don't need it. That is not the way to quit. Cold turkey. I like how you did not just throw that hidden tin of poison away in the trash. You did to it what should have been done to it... flushed it right down the toilet. That is how you do it! If you find any other stash... do the exact same thing to it.
Keep reading on the site and keep learning. You can do this. You are early so be ready to fight today if the nic B rears her ugly hear.
QLF with you today!
Thanks! There has been a lot of stress today, so I fought fire with fire. I googled pics of mouth cancer and began shaking from the anxiety. Stress-induced dipping is out of my mind, to say the least.
Now, I've probably scared myself a little more than I should. I don't know.
Cancer pics... That is a good crave killer. And no you haven't scared yourself too much. That is what will happen to you! Dip will kill you. Know that. This is serious business and that is whey quitting is so important.
What else you using to help with craves... fake, gum, seeds, candy, food?, Exercise, push ups, a run and some sort of physical activity will help immensely. Use and do whatever it takes to stay quit today.
Keep fighting bro! All you have to do is stay quit today! You can do this!
Now I keep running to the freaking bathroom at work, using my phone as a flash light and looking in my mouth.
Try to relax. The pictures are of what "would" happen to you. Not necessarily of what "is" happening to you.
If there is an issue, then go to the Dr. and have yourself checked out. But in the interim, stay quit today!
I'm staying quit. To do otherwise is not an option.
Those cans and gum laying around everywhere should be a stark reminder of how much the nic-bitch totally dictated your every action. A reminder of how you literally built your life around nicotine, and how you're done being led around by the nose. Think about why you keep finding cans damn near everywhere. Think about why you left that dusty ass can in the glove box instead of throwing out. Think about how you used to stop at the c-store even though your were late for _________, and what that said about your priorities.
Cancer is a great reason to quit. Just don't forget the other million reasons. And don't forget to keep your new nicotine-free eyes open...you will discover another reason every day. Congrats on your freedom JW, it's really sweet. Trust me.
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Thanks for the supportive an encouraging words. As promised, I tossed away my nicotine gum when I got to my gf's house. I had some in my overnight bag but also had more sitting out on her counter. I threw it all away. I cleaned out my bag...or so I thought....well, guess what I found in my bag right after I got out of the shower?!? (lol) Yep, you guessed it...a can of freaking DIP that I had packed away early last week. I obviosly had forotten about it! I calmly opened the can, emptied the remaining contents where they belong (in the toilet, not a mouth), then flushed.
I truly do appreciate everyone's effort and encouragement and hope I can pay it forward to someone else!!
6 days of quit is bada$$ brother! Way to dump that gum... u don't need it. That is not the way to quit. Cold turkey. I like how you did not just throw that hidden tin of poison away in the trash. You did to it what should have been done to it... flushed it right down the toilet. That is how you do it! If you find any other stash... do the exact same thing to it.
Keep reading on the site and keep learning. You can do this. You are early so be ready to fight today if the nic B rears her ugly hear.
QLF with you today!
Thanks! There has been a lot of stress today, so I fought fire with fire. I googled pics of mouth cancer and began shaking from the anxiety. Stress-induced dipping is out of my mind, to say the least.
Now, I've probably scared myself a little more than I should. I don't know.
Cancer pics... That is a good crave killer. And no you haven't scared yourself too much. That is what will happen to you! Dip will kill you. Know that. This is serious business and that is whey quitting is so important.
What else you using to help with craves... fake, gum, seeds, candy, food?, Exercise, push ups, a run and some sort of physical activity will help immensely. Use and do whatever it takes to stay quit today.
Keep fighting bro! All you have to do is stay quit today! You can do this!
Now I keep running to the freaking bathroom at work, using my phone as a flash light and looking in my mouth.
Try to relax. The pictures are of what "would" happen to you. Not necessarily of what "is" happening to you.
If there is an issue, then go to the Dr. and have yourself checked out. But in the interim, stay quit today!
I'm staying quit. To do otherwise is not an option.
Those cans and gum laying around everywhere should be a stark reminder of how much the nic-bitch totally dictated your every action. A reminder of how you literally built your life around nicotine, and how you're done being led around by the nose. Think about why you keep finding cans damn near everywhere. Think about why you left that dusty ass can in the glove box instead of throwing out. Think about how you used to stop at the c-store even though your were late for _________, and what that said about your priorities.
Cancer is a great reason to quit. Just don't forget the other million reasons. And don't forget to keep your new nicotine-free eyes open...you will discover another reason every day. Congrats on your freedom JW, it's really sweet. Trust me.
Thanks for your encouragement. I didn't stop because of any symptoms in my mouth. I actually didn't even think to look in my mouth until today. I have several reasons for quitting and look forward to adding to that list as time goes on.
There is NO doubt nicotine had a grasp on me. I dipped 1.5 to 2 cans in a day, and would leave my dips in for a long period at a time. If I was awake and not eating, I had a dip in my mouth.
This site has been helpful, and I've been overwhelmed by the generosity other members have shown through PM and texts. The texts have really added a personal touch to the support part.
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Just thought I'd update my thread:
Today is Day 13 without nicotine. I'm starting to feel better and better. While I still have some cravings, the cravings are not as frequent and not nearly as intense as it was the first days. The support that I have gotten from the members of this site has been unbelievable. I hope I am able to give back now and in the days to come.
Before I quit, I had made an appointment with my local hospital that offers a state funded nicotine cessation program. I went today to see if there was anything I could benefit from such as counseling, local support group, or if I would even be a viable candidate for their program because my mind was made up, and I had given all of you my word to be nicotine free one day at a time. I was very pleasantly surprised when my counselor had heard of KTC. He started smiling and nodding his head yes when I was telling him how we do things. He said he knew about KTC and said that the KTC way is the best way to quit smokeless tobacco. He also said that they primarily do NRT for smokers, and that smokeless tobacco users are rare in their program. He went to a workshop last month for smokeless tobacco users, and said that after discussing the differences between NRT therapy and cold turkey while there, he said for smokeless tobacco users that cold turkey/KTC way is the best way.
I am gonna check out a local support group, but posting roll here and all of you are my 1st priority for support. Anyway, just wanted to update my thread.
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Just thought I'd update my thread:
Today is Day 13 without nicotine. I'm starting to feel better and better. While I still have some cravings, the cravings are not as frequent and not nearly as intense as it was the first days. The support that I have gotten from the members of this site has been unbelievable. I hope I am able to give back now and in the days to come.
Before I quit, I had made an appointment with my local hospital that offers a state funded nicotine cessation program. I went today to see if there was anything I could benefit from such as counseling, local support group, or if I would even be a viable candidate for their program because my mind was made up, and I had given all of you my word to be nicotine free one day at a time. I was very pleasantly surprised when my counselor had heard of KTC. He started smiling and nodding his head yes when I was telling him how we do things. He said he knew about KTC and said that the KTC way is the best way to quit smokeless tobacco. He also said that they primarily do NRT for smokers, and that smokeless tobacco users are rare in their program. He went to a workshop last month for smokeless tobacco users, and said that after discussing the differences between NRT therapy and cold turkey while there, he said for smokeless tobacco users that cold turkey/KTC way is the best way.
I am gonna check out a local support group, but posting roll here and all of you are my 1st priority for support. Anyway, just wanted to update my thread.
THat is outstanding news!!! The gradual cessation is failure waiting to happen. My local hospital has some program that includes "planning" to quit. I saw a flyer in my doc's office a while back and just stood there shaking my head. Didn't get into it with him that day, but I intend to do that next trip.
Congrats on 13! Now, don't let your guard down. There will be the occasional bad day. It will kick your ass if you're not prepared for it.
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Just thought I'd update my thread:Â
Today is Day 13 without nicotine. I'm starting to feel better and better. While I still have some cravings, the cravings are not as frequent and not nearly as intense as it was the first days. The support that I have gotten from the members of this site has been unbelievable. I hope I am able to give back now and in the days to come.Â
Before I quit, I had made an appointment with my local hospital that offers a state funded nicotine cessation program. I went today to see if there was anything I could benefit from such as counseling, local support group, or if I would even be a viable candidate for their program because my mind was made up, and I had given all of you my word to be nicotine free one day at a time. I was very pleasantly surprised when my counselor had heard of KTC. He started smiling and nodding his head yes when I was telling him how we do things. He said he knew about KTC and said that the KTC way is the best way to quit smokeless tobacco. He also said that they primarily do NRT for smokers, and that smokeless tobacco users are rare in their program. He went to a workshop last month for smokeless tobacco users, and said that after discussing the differences between NRT therapy and cold turkey while there, he said for smokeless tobacco users that cold turkey/KTC way is the best way.
I am gonna check out a local support group, but posting roll here and all of you are my 1st priority for support. Anyway, just wanted to update my thread.
THat is outstanding news!!! The gradual cessation is failure waiting to happen. My local hospital has some program that includes "planning" to quit. I saw a flyer in my doc's office a while back and just stood there shaking my head. Didn't get into it with him that day, but I intend to do that next trip.
Congrats on 13! Now, don't let your guard down. There will be the occasional bad day. It will kick your ass if you're not prepared for it.
I definitely appreciate your encouragement and reminding me to keep my guard up. The accountability we have here is priceless.
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Congrats on day 13! Yeah as I look back on my unplanned quit, this really is the best way to do it, nothing like jumping right in making it happen! No excuses, just do it.
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Just thought I'd update my thread:Â
Today is Day 13 without nicotine. I'm starting to feel better and better. While I still have some cravings, the cravings are not as frequent and not nearly as intense as it was the first days. The support that I have gotten from the members of this site has been unbelievable. I hope I am able to give back now and in the days to come.Â
Before I quit, I had made an appointment with my local hospital that offers a state funded nicotine cessation program. I went today to see if there was anything I could benefit from such as counseling, local support group, or if I would even be a viable candidate for their program because my mind was made up, and I had given all of you my word to be nicotine free one day at a time. I was very pleasantly surprised when my counselor had heard of KTC. He started smiling and nodding his head yes when I was telling him how we do things. He said he knew about KTC and said that the KTC way is the best way to quit smokeless tobacco. He also said that they primarily do NRT for smokers, and that smokeless tobacco users are rare in their program. He went to a workshop last month for smokeless tobacco users, and said that after discussing the differences between NRT therapy and cold turkey while there, he said for smokeless tobacco users that cold turkey/KTC way is the best way.
I am gonna check out a local support group, but posting roll here and all of you are my 1st priority for support. Anyway, just wanted to update my thread.
THat is outstanding news!!! The gradual cessation is failure waiting to happen. My local hospital has some program that includes "planning" to quit. I saw a flyer in my doc's office a while back and just stood there shaking my head. Didn't get into it with him that day, but I intend to do that next trip.
Congrats on 13! Now, don't let your guard down. There will be the occasional bad day. It will kick your ass if you're not prepared for it.
I definitely appreciate your encouragement and reminding me to keep my guard up. The accountability we have here is priceless.
I sure am glad that's not a picture of a dodge or chevy up there. lol
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Just thought I'd update my thread:Â
Today is Day 13 without nicotine. I'm starting to feel better and better. While I still have some cravings, the cravings are not as frequent and not nearly as intense as it was the first days. The support that I have gotten from the members of this site has been unbelievable. I hope I am able to give back now and in the days to come.Â
Before I quit, I had made an appointment with my local hospital that offers a state funded nicotine cessation program. I went today to see if there was anything I could benefit from such as counseling, local support group, or if I would even be a viable candidate for their program because my mind was made up, and I had given all of you my word to be nicotine free one day at a time. I was very pleasantly surprised when my counselor had heard of KTC. He started smiling and nodding his head yes when I was telling him how we do things. He said he knew about KTC and said that the KTC way is the best way to quit smokeless tobacco. He also said that they primarily do NRT for smokers, and that smokeless tobacco users are rare in their program. He went to a workshop last month for smokeless tobacco users, and said that after discussing the differences between NRT therapy and cold turkey while there, he said for smokeless tobacco users that cold turkey/KTC way is the best way.
I am gonna check out a local support group, but posting roll here and all of you are my 1st priority for support. Anyway, just wanted to update my thread.
THat is outstanding news!!! The gradual cessation is failure waiting to happen. My local hospital has some program that includes "planning" to quit. I saw a flyer in my doc's office a while back and just stood there shaking my head. Didn't get into it with him that day, but I intend to do that next trip.
Congrats on 13! Now, don't let your guard down. There will be the occasional bad day. It will kick your ass if you're not prepared for it.
I definitely appreciate your encouragement and reminding me to keep my guard up. The accountability we have here is priceless.
I sure am glad that's not a picture of a dodge or chevy up there. lol
Ha! But it is a Chrysler....Chrysler Jeep, Dodge, Ram lol
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Update: Today is Day 23, and I will remember this day in my quit. It is the day I went to the oral surgeon.
About 6 days after I quit, I finally got my head out of the fog long enough to have a lucid thought, "Hey, dummy, you have been putting carcinogenic chemicals in your mouth for years, and it might be a good idea to go look in the mirror..." Well, I did, and I found a spot at the back of my mouth on the gum line. My anxiety kicked into overdrive. I've been freaked out about it since that day. Then I began noticing what I thought was white patches and white areas inside my cheeks, white lines down the side of my tongue, the dorsal/top part of my tongue was white. I freaked out yet again. I brushed my tongue until it was lightly raw in places, but got that white crap mostly gone.
Anyway, so I get to the oral surgeon (who extracted my wisdom teeth 17 years ago), and he looks around and said that he doesn't see anything scary. I specifically asked him about the spot and if it was a Fordyce granule or something else. He said he thinks it is a Fordyce granule (a rather large one). I also had some white tissue on the gums directly behind my back molar where the wisdom teeth would have protruded. He said that looked like callouses from my teeth hitting it and from chewing food. He said he didn't think it was necessary to biopsy anything, but he would if I wanted to because he knew how scared I have been. So, the spot and the tissue behind my bottom rear molars has been cut out and sent to the lab. Yep, I'm still nervous and will be until I know for sure. It is a little comforting that he said he didn't see anything scary. However, I'm waiting on the lab results before I breathe any sigh of relief.
I was disappointed to hear the Dr say that there isn't a direct scientific link between dipping and oral cancer. I told him I don't care and that I quit. I quit before I even considered looking in my mouth. Dang. The nic bitch had her claws deep in me!! I'm so ashamed.
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Update: Today is Day 23, and I will remember this day in my quit. It is the day I went to the oral surgeon.
About 6 days after I quit, I finally got my head out of the fog long enough to have a lucid thought, "Hey, dummy, you have been putting carcinogenic chemicals in your mouth for years, and it might be a good idea to go look in the mirror..." Well, I did, and I found a spot at the back of my mouth on the gum line. My anxiety kicked into overdrive. I've been freaked out about it since that day. Then I began noticing what I thought was white patches and white areas inside my cheeks, white lines down the side of my tongue, the dorsal/top part of my tongue was white. I freaked out yet again. I brushed my tongue until it was lightly raw in places, but got that white crap mostly gone.
Anyway, so I get to the oral surgeon (who extracted my wisdom teeth 17 years ago), and he looks around and said that he doesn't see anything scary. I specifically asked him about the spot and if it was a Fordyce granule or something else. He said he thinks it is a Fordyce granule (a rather large one). I also had some white tissue on the gums directly behind my back molar where the wisdom teeth would have protruded. He said that looked like callouses from my teeth hitting it and from chewing food. He said he didn't think it was necessary to biopsy anything, but he would if I wanted to because he knew how scared I have been. So, the spot and the tissue behind my bottom rear molars has been cut out and sent to the lab. Yep, I'm still nervous and will be until I know for sure. It is a little comforting that he said he didn't see anything scary. However, I'm waiting on the lab results before I breathe any sigh of relief.
I was disappointed to hear the Dr say that there isn't a direct scientific link between dipping and oral cancer. I told him I don't care and that I quit. I quit before I even considered looking in my mouth. Dang. The nic bitch had her claws deep in me!! I'm so ashamed.
You need not be ashamed today brother, you are quit and you have admitted your addiction. You should rejoice that you are quit and that your Oral Surgeon consult ended well.
I am glad that you wrote that note in your intro today, because it will serve as a reminder for you in the months and years to come. I quit with you today JW.
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Update: Today is Day 23, and I will remember this day in my quit. It is the day I went to the oral surgeon.Â
About 6 days after I quit, I finally got my head out of the fog long enough to have a lucid thought, "Hey, dummy, you have been putting carcinogenic chemicals in your mouth for years, and it might be a good idea to go look in the mirror..." Well, I did, and I found a spot at the back of my mouth on the gum line. My anxiety kicked into overdrive. I've been freaked out about it since that day. Then I began noticing what I thought was white patches and white areas inside my cheeks, white lines down the side of my tongue, the dorsal/top part of my tongue was white. I freaked out yet again. I brushed my tongue until it was lightly raw in places, but got that white crap mostly gone.Â
Anyway, so I get to the oral surgeon (who extracted my wisdom teeth 17 years ago), and he looks around and said that he doesn't see anything scary. I specifically asked him about the spot and if it was a Fordyce granule or something else. He said he thinks it is a Fordyce granule (a rather large one). I also had some white tissue on the gums directly behind my back molar where the wisdom teeth would have protruded. He said that looked like callouses from my teeth hitting it and from chewing food. He said he didn't think it was necessary to biopsy anything, but he would if I wanted to because he knew how scared I have been. So, the spot and the tissue behind my bottom rear molars has been cut out and sent to the lab. Yep, I'm still nervous and will be until I know for sure. It is a little comforting that he said he didn't see anything scary. However, I'm waiting on the lab results before I breathe any sigh of relief.
I was disappointed to hear the Dr say that there isn't a direct scientific link between dipping and oral cancer. I told him I don't care and that I quit. I quit before I even considered looking in my mouth. Dang. The nic bitch had her claws deep in me!! I'm so ashamed.
You need not be ashamed today brother, you are quit and you have admitted your addiction. You should rejoice that you are quit and that your Oral Surgeon consult ended well.
I am glad that you wrote that note in your intro today, because it will serve as a reminder for you in the months and years to come. I quit with you today JW.
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Thanks for the encouraging words. The brotherhood and accountability on KTC is unsurpassed. That's for sure!
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Congrats on getting a clean bill of health from the oral surgeon, there's nothing more relieving than that. Yet still there'll be some anxiety, so I hope pray the biopsy test results come back good. I know they will. Glad to see you're getting checked out so you can go forward in your quit with more confidence to keep up that clean bill of health!
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Congrats on getting a clean bill of health from the oral surgeon, there's nothing more relieving than that. Yet still there'll be some anxiety, so I hope pray the biopsy test results come back good. I know they will. Glad to see you're getting checked out so you can go forward in your quit with more confidence to keep up that clean bill of health!
Thanks, Mike. I appreciate the prayers.
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Congrats on getting a clean bill of health from the oral surgeon, there's nothing more relieving than that. Yet still there'll be some anxiety, so I hope pray the biopsy test results come back good. I know they will. Glad to see you're getting checked out so you can go forward in your quit with more confidence to keep up that clean bill of health!
Thanks, Mike. I appreciate the prayers.
Welcome. They're coming from a guy who got a clean bill of health on everything from the dentist who did a full on oral cancer screening ( I still worried after till I talked to him again had him take another look) to a doc who did blood work a full swallow test to check for throat cancer. I've had more anxiety over cancer this last while than I ever have over anything in my life. So I'm sure everything is good for you, but you still need to get checked out. Not necessarily because something might be seriously wrong, but to try to help put your mind at ease that it isn't. Every sensation that your brain usually ignores, as it should, you can now feel like you're dying. So if you at all have any worry, get things checked out go forward confident that you're quit can get through this won't have to ever again!
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Day 29, and I got the call from my Dr's office saying that the lab results for the biopsied tissue is callouses/hyperkeratosis. I'm thankful for that, no doubt! I've been freaked out and battling some harsh anxiety over this.
I know I responded already in the Dec 13 group thread, but I wanted to also update my Intro thread.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I want to enjoy this moment for sure, but I'm very angry with tobacco, tobacco companies, and myself for being such an idiot for 20+ years. I will not put those radioactive carcinogenic cat turds in my face. Not for any reason.
I know others have gotten results that wasn't what they had hoped for, and my heart goes out to them and their families.
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Day 29, and I got the call from my Dr's office saying that the lab results for the biopsied tissue is callouses/hyperkeratosis. I'm thankful for that, no doubt! I've been freaked out and battling some harsh anxiety over this.
I know I responded already in the Dec 13 group thread, but I wanted to also update my Intro thread.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I want to enjoy this moment for sure, but I'm very angry with tobacco, tobacco companies, and myself for being such an idiot for 20+ years. I will not put those radioactive carcinogenic cat turds in my face. Not for any reason.
I know others have gotten results that wasn't what they had hoped for, and my heart goes out to them and their families.
Your uncovering lie after lie j. It's one thing for me and others to tell you the truths but it's another to feel and see them first hand. Damn proud to be quit with you today.
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Day 29, and I got the call from my Dr's office saying that the lab results for the biopsied tissue is callouses/hyperkeratosis. I'm thankful for that, no doubt! I've been freaked out and battling some harsh anxiety over this.
I know I responded already in the Dec 13 group thread, but I wanted to also update my Intro thread.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I want to enjoy this moment for sure, but I'm very angry with tobacco, tobacco companies, and myself for being such an idiot for 20+ years. I will not put those radioactive carcinogenic cat turds in my face. Not for any reason.Â
I know others have gotten results that wasn't what they had hoped for, and my heart goes out to them and their families.
Your uncovering lie after lie j. It's one thing for me and others to tell you the truths but it's another to feel and see them first hand. Damn proud to be quit with you today.
Thanks. The results I got doesnt make me want to start back dipping. It makes me want to quit even more than I already did. I know I read threads where people went back to dipping after getting a good biopsy report and that can be a catalyst for caving, but it had the opposite effect on me.
Im thankful for my KTC brothers and sisters.
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Day 29, and I got the call from my Dr's office saying that the lab results for the biopsied tissue is callouses/hyperkeratosis. I'm thankful for that, no doubt! I've been freaked out and battling some harsh anxiety over this.
I know I responded already in the Dec 13 group thread, but I wanted to also update my Intro thread.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I want to enjoy this moment for sure, but I'm very angry with tobacco, tobacco companies, and myself for being such an idiot for 20+ years. I will not put those radioactive carcinogenic cat turds in my face. Not for any reason.Â
I know others have gotten results that wasn't what they had hoped for, and my heart goes out to them and their families.
Your uncovering lie after lie j. It's one thing for me and others to tell you the truths but it's another to feel and see them first hand. Damn proud to be quit with you today.
Thanks. The results I got doesnt make me want to start back dipping. It makes me want to quit even more than I already did. I know I read threads where people went back to dipping after getting a good biopsy report and that can be a catalyst for caving, but it had the opposite effect on me.
Im thankful for my KTC brothers and sisters.
You have come a long way, brother.
You really have a strong and inspiring quit going.
Glad to be quit with you.
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Day 29, and I got the call from my Dr's office saying that the lab results for the biopsied tissue is callouses/hyperkeratosis. I'm thankful for that, no doubt! I've been freaked out and battling some harsh anxiety over this.
I know I responded already in the Dec 13 group thread, but I wanted to also update my Intro thread.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I want to enjoy this moment for sure, but I'm very angry with tobacco, tobacco companies, and myself for being such an idiot for 20+ years. I will not put those radioactive carcinogenic cat turds in my face. Not for any reason.Â
I know others have gotten results that wasn't what they had hoped for, and my heart goes out to them and their families.
Your uncovering lie after lie j. It's one thing for me and others to tell you the truths but it's another to feel and see them first hand. Damn proud to be quit with you today.
Thanks. The results I got doesnt make me want to start back dipping. It makes me want to quit even more than I already did. I know I read threads where people went back to dipping after getting a good biopsy report and that can be a catalyst for caving, but it had the opposite effect on me.
Im thankful for my KTC brothers and sisters.
You have come a long way, brother.
You really have a strong and inspiring quit going.
Glad to be quit with you.
Glad it came back clear. Let that anger fuel your quit. Razd was one angry mofo for quite a while.
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Day 29, and I got the call from my Dr's office saying that the lab results for the biopsied tissue is callouses/hyperkeratosis. I'm thankful for that, no doubt! I've been freaked out and battling some harsh anxiety over this.
I know I responded already in the Dec 13 group thread, but I wanted to also update my Intro thread.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I want to enjoy this moment for sure, but I'm very angry with tobacco, tobacco companies, and myself for being such an idiot for 20+ years. I will not put those radioactive carcinogenic cat turds in my face. Not for any reason.Â
I know others have gotten results that wasn't what they had hoped for, and my heart goes out to them and their families.
Your uncovering lie after lie j. It's one thing for me and others to tell you the truths but it's another to feel and see them first hand. Damn proud to be quit with you today.
Thanks. The results I got doesnt make me want to start back dipping. It makes me want to quit even more than I already did. I know I read threads where people went back to dipping after getting a good biopsy report and that can be a catalyst for caving, but it had the opposite effect on me.
Im thankful for my KTC brothers and sisters.
Right on Jay! So happy for you today. I didn't have to go as far as biopsy, but I know for me, now that I've made the decision to quit, getting a clean bill of health was for me too motivation to add to my quit. I thought about a crave for sure right about then, but no way. There's nothing like getting a clean bill of health!!
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Day 29, and I got the call from my Dr's office saying that the lab results for the biopsied tissue is callouses/hyperkeratosis. I'm thankful for that, no doubt! I've been freaked out and battling some harsh anxiety over this.
I know I responded already in the Dec 13 group thread, but I wanted to also update my Intro thread.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, and I want to enjoy this moment for sure, but I'm very angry with tobacco, tobacco companies, and myself for being such an idiot for 20+ years. I will not put those radioactive carcinogenic cat turds in my face. Not for any reason.Â
I know others have gotten results that wasn't what they had hoped for, and my heart goes out to them and their families.
Your uncovering lie after lie j. It's one thing for me and others to tell you the truths but it's another to feel and see them first hand. Damn proud to be quit with you today.
Thanks. The results I got doesnt make me want to start back dipping. It makes me want to quit even more than I already did. I know I read threads where people went back to dipping after getting a good biopsy report and that can be a catalyst for caving, but it had the opposite effect on me.
Im thankful for my KTC brothers and sisters.
Right on Jay! So happy for you today. I didn't have to go as far as biopsy, but I know for me, now that I've made the decision to quit, getting a clean bill of health was for me too motivation to add to my quit. I thought about a crave for sure right about then, but no way. There's nothing like getting a clean bill of health!!
I was also glad to hear that. And when you sent me the pics of your mouth when I was having a crave, I stopped craving real fast. A good reminder of the risks we took and the bullets we dodged. Glad you are ok my man.
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Jonas congrats on reaching 100 days of freedom!
Proud to quit once again with you today!
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Nice 100 days brother! Congrats. Keep it going!
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Congrats brother. Who was that guy with the nic-gum in his pocket? He is long gone. You now stand strong in his place.
Great job on 100.
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Proud of you. I like the new you.
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Proud of you. I like the new you.
Awesome JayDubya! Simply Awesome!
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Thanks for the encouragement. All of you shared the heavy burden of getting through to me. I appreciate the input, example, and accountability each of you shared with me. I was going to update my intro a while back but decided to wait until my HOF speech to hash out everything that has been going on. Some days it has been just plain survival mode wading through the stress that life's unexpected curve balls can bring. Im already looking forward to roll call tomorrow.
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Oh damn. That's funny. The guy with the nic gum. Bahaha. At the start I was thinking wow, is this guy a tight wad or what. He isn't gonna quit till he chews all the nic gum that he bought. Honestly, I didn't think you would get started. But you did. So very proud of you. I know you have overcome more than a few difficulties to still be here today. And I'm very thankful you are healthy and made it through that scare. Congrats on HOF buddy. You have earned it. Here's to the next 100 !!! We will toast 200 with some Colt 45's. :-)
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You have gone from being the guy with the gum in his pocket to being a leader within our quit group. Your quit has been truly inspiring and serves as a example to all new quitters just beginning their journey.
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Congrats on the HOF. Keep going everyday by posting roll. You're not cured.
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It's been awhile since I've updated my thread, so just want to add a few things. Also, I've only had 1 dream about nicotine, so far, and that was around Day 20-30. BUT last night, I had the worst dream/nightmare ever. I dreamed that I caved. I didn't dream about the details of how or why. I just woke up in a sweat and panic when I dreamed having to tell all of you here on KTC, and realizing that meant I must have caved. Geez, what a horrible feeling! My heart goes out to those on KTC who have had to face that as a reality. I went back to sleep but still didn't sleep restfully for the remainder of the night/morning. Anyway, here is the update to my quit:
Day 30-55: not much different than my quit days in the 20's, except no more worrying about having oral cancer. That did help with some stress, obviously.
Day 55-75: This is when things became noticeably harder for me. This is also when my quit was gradually becoming harder and harder. I posted roll and still posted in other groups, but gradually posted less and less in other groups. By Day 75 I was in a full slump. During this time, I was dealing with stress, anger, worry, and fear of losing money because of a lemon vehicle. I had been trying to work out problems with Chrysler, instead of having to file a lawsuit on them. Additionally, I ended the relationship between my ex girlfriend and I. There were underlying problems with her that had been ongoing for some time, but I simply just reached the end of my rope with her. I moved out from my ex's house.
Day 75-100: I was definitely in the pre-HoF funk. I posted roll every day, but I stopped posting in other groups by this point. Maybe it was me being selfish or maybe it was just me in survival mode and doing whatever it took to stay quit. I remained in close contact with my quit brothers via texts. Also, during this time it became blatantly obvious I would have to file suit on Chrysler and engage in a legal fight that I really didn't want. More stress, frustration, worry, restlessness, etc. However, I was super proud when my 100 Days came to pass. I felt the sense of accomplishment but also knew that I needed more of that--that I will need KTC far beyond 100 days. I at least felt some stress relief after ending that relationship with the ex and moving out. I knew and still know it was the right choice.
Day 100-125: I was still in a slump/funk. This funk continued until around Day 125. Was this one continuous funk for this long? Did I experience back to back pre-and post Hof funks? Is that even possible? I don't know. What I do know is that around Day 125, I felt like I "woke up" on the inside and in my mind. I don't think I'm fixed. I never will be. I just felt more compelled to spend more time here on KTC, to be involved, to take interest in other members' quits, lives, friendships, etc. Also, serving as co-conductor has been a humbling learning experience. I know more funks are coming, but they are beatable ODAAT. Also filed lawsuit on Chrysler. I'm not going to discuss this any further until it has reached finality.
I am now at Day 139, and the thought of skipping roll sends a feeling of horror deep within, which is the same feeling I get when I think about trying to quit without KTC support, brotherhood, and accountability. I am thankful to be here quit with all of you. I may be an addict for life, but I'm a recovering addict for life, which means that I am clean.
Sorry this is so longwinded, but it's been awhile since updating.
JW
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JayDubya,
Thanks for the detailed reflection on your first 140 days of being quit. I think it is tremendously helpful for those newbies like me with less than 20 days under our belts. Although I'm feeling really good, and really good about my quit, it's important to know (and be prepared for) the tough days ahead.
Everyone's quit experience is a little different (in terms of the schedule of what happens in the first 100 days...and beyond) but if I take one thing away from your post (and in concurrence with advice from the vets) it is that it's important to stay vigilant, and not to expect your individual quit experience to follow the rough schedule laid out on the site verbatim. One day at a time and things will get better, when they get better. Just focus on the now and on you quit. It looks like you've got that down.
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It's been awhile since I've updated my thread, so just want to add a few things. Also, I've only had 1 dream about nicotine, so far, and that was around Day 20-30. BUT last night, I had the worst dream/nightmare ever. I dreamed that I caved. I didn't dream about the details of how or why. I just woke up in a sweat and panic when I dreamed having to tell all of you here on KTC, and realizing that meant I must have caved. Geez, what a horrible feeling! My heart goes out to those on KTC who have had to face that as a reality. I went back to sleep but still didn't sleep restfully for the remainder of the night/morning. Anyway, here is the update to my quit:
Day 30-55: not much different than my quit days in the 20's, except no more worrying about having oral cancer. That did help with some stress, obviously.
Day 55-75: This is when things became noticeably harder for me. This is also when my quit was gradually becoming harder and harder. I posted roll and still posted in other groups, but gradually posted less and less in other groups. By Day 75 I was in a full slump. During this time, I was dealing with stress, anger, worry, and fear of losing money because of a lemon vehicle. I had been trying to work out problems with Chrysler, instead of having to file a lawsuit on them. Additionally, I ended the relationship between my ex girlfriend and I. There were underlying problems with her that had been ongoing for some time, but I simply just reached the end of my rope with her. I moved out from my ex's house.
Day 75-100: I was definitely in the pre-HoF funk. I posted roll every day, but I stopped posting in other groups by this point. Maybe it was me being selfish or maybe it was just me in survival mode and doing whatever it took to stay quit. I remained in close contact with my quit brothers via texts. Also, during this time it became blatantly obvious I would have to file suit on Chrysler and engage in a legal fight that I really didn't want. More stress, frustration, worry, restlessness, etc. However, I was super proud when my 100 Days came to pass. I felt the sense of accomplishment but also knew that I needed more of that--that I will need KTC far beyond 100 days. I at least felt some stress relief after ending that relationship with the ex and moving out. I knew and still know it was the right choice.
Day 100-125: I was still in a slump/funk. This funk continued until around Day 125. Was this one continuous funk for this long? Did I experience back to back pre-and post Hof funks? Is that even possible? I don't know. What I do know is that around Day 125, I felt like I "woke up" on the inside and in my mind. I don't think I'm fixed. I never will be. I just felt more compelled to spend more time here on KTC, to be involved, to take interest in other members' quits, lives, friendships, etc. Also, serving as co-conductor has been a humbling learning experience. I know more funks are coming, but they are beatable ODAAT. Also filed lawsuit on Chrysler. I'm not going to discuss this any further until it has reached finality.
I am now at Day 139, and the thought of skipping roll sends a feeling of horror deep within, which is the same feeling I get when I think about trying to quit without KTC support, brotherhood, and accountability. I am thankful to be here quit with all of you. I may be an addict for life, but I'm a recovering addict for life, which means that I am clean.
Sorry this is so longwinded, but it's been awhile since updating.
JW
This is awesome...although I realize there is no cure, it does amaze me that quitting can suck for so long with snuff. I stopped smoking for almost five years in the 90's (yea, I was a dumb ass who thought I could have just one at my grad school graduation party), but I don't remember the first couple months of quitting smoking being nearly as bad. Perhaps it's that the lip stayed stuffed most of my waking hours and the higher doses of nic in snuff. Regardless, reading your post and others that are farther along helps me to be prepared for what will come and that it will indeed get better even if it ODAAT. That is extremely helpful. Thanks.
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IT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I TELL YOU THAT I AND DECEMBER 2013 HAVE LOST A GREAT QUIT BROTHER TODAY. JAYDUBYA WAS WITH ME IN DECEMBER 2013 UNTIL TODAY WHEN HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WOULD NO LONGER BE POSTING IN OUR GROUP OR ON KTC.
ME AND JAYDUB HIT IT OFF PRETTY WELL AS FELLOW QUITTERS EARLY ON. I TEXTED HIM A THOUSAND PLUS TIMES SINCE WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER(YEAH YOU TELL US TO GET A ROOM. FUCK YOU!!!) OFTEN TIMES HE TOLD ME HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WOULD DO IF ONE OF HIS CLOSE BROS IN DECEMBER CAVED OR LEFT KTC. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED A FEW DAYS TEXTING, BUT WE STAYED IN TOUCH PRETTY MUCH UP TIL RIGHT NOW(PROBABLY WILL STILL STAY IN TOUCH(JUST HEARD THE TEXT NOTIFYING THINGY)) ANYWAY THINGS HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF HAND LATELY ON KTC. AND TO THE SOMEONE WHO I WILL NOT MENTION, BUT HAS ALREADY DROPPED A NUKE IN INTROS THIS WEEK, I SAY YOU HAVE COST ME A GREAT QUIT BROTHER, AND MANY QUITS OLD AND NEW IN THE NIC FIGHTING WAR WILL SUFFER, AND I DON'T APPRECIATE ANY OF IT!!!.... THE OLD SAYING GOES "CURIOUSITY KILLED THE CAT" AND IN THIS CASE I HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN KILLED A QUIT(ANY QUIT)... KNOWING JAYDUB... HE WILL BE KICKING AROUND SOMEWHERE.
SO I WILL GO ON AND POST ROLL IN DECEMBER(TEARING UP NOW DAMNIT!) WITHOUT JAYDUBYA AND NOT A DAY WILL GO BY THAT I WON'T THINK ABOUT THE FRIEND I LOST, AND THE PATH HE CHOSE TO TAKE.... SO AS NOT TO MAKE THIS SOUND SO FUCKING DESPERATE(TOO LATE) I OFFER YOU, JAYDUBYA, A FREE PASS TO COME BACK AT ANY TIME AND POST(TEXT IT IN IF YOU HAVE TO) IN DECEMBER, IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO POST AGAIN AT KTC. I'LL ALWAYS MAKE SURE IT GETS ON THE LINE THAT DAY!!!
DOC2QUIT4GOOD - DALE C 'Sno'
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IT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I TELL YOU THAT I AND DECEMBER 2013 HAVE LOST A GREAT QUIT BROTHER TODAY. JAYDUBYA WAS WITH ME IN DECEMBER 2013 UNTIL TODAY WHEN HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WOULD NO LONGER BE POSTING IN OUR GROUP OR ON KTC.
ME AND JAYDUB HIT IT OFF PRETTY WELL AS FELLOW QUITTERS EARLY ON. I TEXTED HIM A THOUSAND PLUS TIMES SINCE WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER(YEAH YOU TELL US TO GET A ROOM. FUCK YOU!!!) OFTEN TIMES HE TOLD ME HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WOULD DO IF ONE OF HIS CLOSE BROS IN DECEMBER CAVED OR LEFT KTC. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED A FEW DAYS TEXTING, BUT WE STAYED IN TOUCH PRETTY MUCH UP TIL RIGHT NOW(PROBABLY WILL STILL STAY IN TOUCH(JUST HEARD THE TEXT NOTIFYING THINGY)) ANYWAY THINGS HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF HAND LATELY ON KTC. AND TO THE SOMEONE WHO I WILL NOT MENTION, BUT HAS ALREADY DROPPED A NUKE IN INTROS THIS WEEK, I SAY YOU HAVE COST ME A GREAT QUIT BROTHER, AND MANY QUITS OLD AND NEW IN THE NIC FIGHTING WAR WILL SUFFER, AND I DON'T APPRECIATE ANY OF IT!!!.... THE OLD SAYING GOES "CURIOUSITY KILLED THE CAT" AND IN THIS CASE I HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN KILLED A QUIT(ANY QUIT)... KNOWING JAYDUB... HE WILL BE KICKING AROUND SOMEWHERE.
SO I WILL GO ON AND POST ROLL IN DECEMBER(TEARING UP NOW DAMNIT!) WITHOUT JAYDUBYA AND NOT A DAY WILL GO BY THAT I WON'T THINK ABOUT THE FRIEND I LOST, AND THE PATH HE CHOSE TO TAKE.... SO AS NOT TO MAKE THIS SOUND SO FUCKING DESPERATE(TOO LATE) I OFFER YOU, JAYDUBYA, A FREE PASS TO COME BACK AT ANY TIME AND POST(TEXT IT IN IF YOU HAVE TO) IN DECEMBER, IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO POST AGAIN AT KTC. I'LL ALWAYS MAKE SURE IT GETS ON THE LINE THAT DAY!!!
DOC2QUIT4GOOD - DALE C
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Wow. Not sure what happened or who upset who, but that really sucks man. I hope you do stay in touch with your friend, and keep quitting for yourself.
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Out of respect that this is JW's intro page, he doesn't need any drama discussed in here. Let Doc's post settle and take this conversation to the Dec '13 quit group. If Jdub does decide to come back, let's not leave this discussion as a reminder as to what may or may not have happened (as I have no clue).
Please take this elsewhere. My own intro thread was hijacked by a jackass and I have no recourse to remove any of the crap that went on. So please, take this to your quit group.
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Out of respect that this is JW's intro page, he doesn't need any drama discussed in here. Let Doc's post settle and take this conversation to the Dec '13 quit group. If Jdub does decide to come back, let's not leave this discussion as a reminder as to what may or may not have happened (as I have no clue).
Please take this elsewhere. My own intro thread was hijacked by a jackass and I have no recourse to remove any of the crap that went on. So please, take this to your quit group.
IF THE TRUTH IS DRAMA SO BE IT!!!
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Out of respect that this is JW's intro page, he doesn't need any drama discussed in here. Let Doc's post settle and take this conversation to the Dec '13 quit group. If Jdub does decide to come back, let's not leave this discussion as a reminder as to what may or may not have happened (as I have no clue).
Please take this elsewhere. My own intro thread was hijacked by a jackass and I have no recourse to remove any of the crap that went on. So please, take this to your quit group.
IF THE TRUTH IS DRAMA SO BE IT!!!
As someone who's had pages and pages of their intro thread derailed, It's best to discuss the drama elsewhere. His own intro thread is not the place to do it.
Been there personally.
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Out of respect that this is JW's intro page, he doesn't need any drama discussed in here. Let Doc's post settle and take this conversation to the Dec '13 quit group. If Jdub does decide to come back, let's not leave this discussion as a reminder as to what may or may not have happened (as I have no clue).
Please take this elsewhere. My own intro thread was hijacked by a jackass and I have no recourse to remove any of the crap that went on. So please, take this to your quit group.
IF THE TRUTH IS DRAMA SO BE IT!!!
As someone who's had pages and pages of their intro thread derailed, It's best to discuss the drama elsewhere. His own intro thread is not the place to do it.
Been there personally.
Sorry Wedge... I had a judges ruling on it and I put it back in. Sorry if it didn't follow the rules. I really don't think Jaydub would care anyway...... 'Crazy' Just kiddin Jdub.....
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Gonna miss your posts JW. You have had a big impact on my quit. Quit on JW!