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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: jdubthe2nd on November 24, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
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I feel crazy! I am constipated. I am having trouble sleeping. I have recently learned that coffee does not help as far as the dehydration goes. I feel like someone else is trying to "check in" or "log in" to my mind. I don't want to replace chew with anything because I don't want to develop any other bad habitsÂ… but I need help with the mental clarity. I feel CRAZY! Any help with that?
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The nicotine bitch is fucking with you. You are much stronger than a can of poison. You are doing the right thing by quitting. Congrats!! Now you have to be tough and stick with it.
Do not give in tonight. Read this entire website if you have to. You are 100% in the right place if you want to quit. And it sounds like you do. So do it!!!!
You can quit. The next few days will be hell. But it is so worth it. You will get some messages from some very helpful long term quit vets soon. They will guide you through this. Just hang tough. You can do it. It will be better soon. Do not cave and make sure to flush all your nicotine now if you have any. Quit Sherpas, get in here and help this new quit soldier please
Your body has to get rid of the nicotine. You are healing. Emrace it. Let your body expel the poison.
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Crazy's fun dude. It makes things much more interesting.
Bad news... You're gonna feel this way for a little while. It sucks. We call it The Suck. We're very clever that way. This is you healing and getting rid of the poison you put in your body for, well, I don't know how long you chewed but for some of us it was years and years. Nicotine is nasty... Your body is getting rid of it. Remember this because you don't want to do it again. This is your only quit, got it? No trying... Just doing. Learn to enjoy how bad you feel... It's you healing.
Good news... This, too, shall pass and it gets better. Way better. I promise. Get yourself up to the Welcome Center link at the top of the page. Learn about joining your quit group... Brothers and sisters who are quitting around the same time as you. Learn about posting for roll call each day... Your daily promise to NOT be a user today. Just for today. Learn WHY we do it this way. Read. All of it. This is your new life saving manual. This is your path to freedom and... It's very damn cool. Pm me and I'll help you in any way. Rock on...
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Quitting is really simple.
Read everything on here, post roll call each morning and don't dip. Wow....that sounds so easy, doesn't it?
If you read through the other intro's you may see some of my same words on them but they always hold true so I will just repeat them...
You are in for one nasty fight but you have the tools here to make it.
Go load yourself up with gum, mints, fake chew, seeds and beef jerky. Also get some member phone numbers right now, they will help you through the rough parts.
Next, exercise to exhaustion every single day and drink so much water that you feel like you may bust. Both of these will help.
Make sure your wife reads about what you are going through. 99% chance that you are going to be a short fussed dick for the next 3-4 weeks. Try not to take it out on her and the kids. Get on here and take it out on us, we will be fine.
I quit with you.
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An unpleasant side effect of nicotine, it is a laxative. An even more unpleasant fact is that when you quit using it, your body is so use to it you may get constipated.
Drink (sip) water all day, and get some cardio in. Anything to get your body flowing again on it's own.
Believe me, this too shall pass.
Sleep can be an issue also. It took me a couple of months before I really settled down. But when I finally did, I slept with the dead.
Take heed and warning on all you experience now. Poison is leaving your body and it will be a difficult time physically, mentally, and emotionally. Your body has been assaulted by this poison for some time now and it will take time to recover. Even after the poison has left you. Don't forget the ride out of hell, you got yourself into it, now you must pay the piper. Realize that what is happening to you is caused by an outside source, one that does not occur in you naturally and causes harm. If you go back to it, this will all happen again.
As difficult as it may seem, and it is we have all been through it. That is the gist of this site. Any question or concerns are welcome as we are here to help you. If you find yourself irritable, don't take it out on your family and friends, rage on the page if it were, or as I said go out and get physical at the gym.
MJ
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Best choice ever! Quitting is not easy, but it is so worth it. Read everything on KTC and get the answers to all your questions about quitting this filthy stinking poison. You will find answers to the questions you don't even know you have yet.
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Welcome to KTC Jdub. You have been given some sound advice so far and you should take it to heart. The only thing I would add is that apple and cranberry juice are also very helpful, but dont overdue them because of the sugar content...they will keep you up if you load up on them before bed. Hang in there, follow your quit plan, and perservere to freedom.
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This the best choice you could make it is going to have its rough days but you are going to have good days that make you say hells yeah this what I want and if you continue post roll ,make some friends,and quit one day at a time you will get rid of the nic bitch.
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I'm on day 6 now. No falters or replacements or whatever. I fell out of my bed last night and my wife says I have been talking im my sleep. My head is killing me and my body aches. Its odd, that at one moment I feel awake and alert and the next my head is lolling and my eyes close.
I know this is neither a short nor easy process, I'm just scared to make the drive to work now with my body trying to go to sleep on me. I had to yell at myself on the way there to stay up. I'm so exhausted.
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I'm on day 6 now. No falters or replacements or whatever. I fell out of my bed last night and my wife says I have been talking im my sleep. My head is killing me and my body aches. Its odd, that at one moment I feel awake and alert and the next my head is lolling and my eyes close.
I know this is neither a short nor easy process, I'm just scared to make the drive to work now with my body trying to go to sleep on me. I had to yell at myself on the way there to stay up. I'm so exhausted.
Day 6, what an achievement! Brother i hear you. All of us went through this. It's rough for while, but just know its worth It. Your worth the process my friend. Your worth the sleepless nights. Your worth the withdraws. Your worth everything you have to go through for this freedom. Screw the poison.
I used anger to fuel my quit. Look at what the poison has done to you. Think of how much you think about this poison when your not allowing yourself to suckle with it. Think of these sleepless nights that it's caused you. Think of how many times you shared precious time with it instead of your family. Think of all the lies it caused you to tell. Think of all the lies it has made you believe. Think of all the money you have given for a filthy disgusting can of dirt that has done nothing but take.
To be fair let me make a list of good things it's done for you.
I'm sorry, I got nothing! If you think long and hard you will think of nothing either. YOU GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO TODAY THAN STAY QUIT! Job or no job. Bed or no bed. Whatever it takes. Quit with you brother.
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Here is a brief timeline on how my quit is going, I'm not sure if it's helpful or not but I made it for another new quitter and he seemed to like it.
The nic is out of your system so it's all fun and games now...right? Well F...guess what? Your body is use to living with nic and now it's mad and is about to really fight you.
The good news is that you understand how to use your tools and you have some good fight in you. The better news is that it gets so much easier very quickly. Now, I realize that "quickly" is a very relative term- as when you are suffering minute to minute, 5 or 6 weeks seem like 100 years. In reality, 5 or 6 weeks is not a very long time.
Keep in mind, I am no expert and I am just going off of what I have experienced the past 73 days. My "suck scale" looked something like this:
Day 1-3: bad fog, my brain didn't work at all. Very little sleep and couldn't take a dump to save my life. I wanted a dip every second of each day.
Day 4-10: Pretty much out of the fog but bad, bad cravings and headache every second of the day
Day 11-14: My cruise control days, I didn't think about dipping much and craves were few and far between. Sleeping good but too much.
Day 15-21 Starting to get my energy level back up. Craves about 2-4 per day and short. The first thing every morning, I started to get an empty and sick feeling in my stomach when I thought about not being able to dip. Started losing my temper easily.
Day 22-25 No real changes, cruising along but feeling a little depressed. I started learning how to hate my addiction and was really mad about it.
Day 26- 30: Wow, I was starting to gain a lot of weight. Weird how I replaced Cope with Ice Cream and cake. I don't even eat sweets but here I am 10 lbs heavier. I don't care, I'm not dipping and the craves are mild.
Day 31-38: Freaking fog was back, some nasty craves and my temper way out of control. WTF!
Day 39-60: The roller coaster days. Mod craves followed by no craves, bad temper and mild depression. A difficult time but I was not giving up at this point.
Day 61-73: The best days by far. Seldom think about dip, temper is way better, sleeping like a normal person and just feeling pretty darn good. I am stacking up these good days to recharge my batteries and prepare for the next round of fights".
Day 74- 85: Really good days. Strong cravings when I have too many drinks so I have been careful with drinking. Normal days are now 0-1 crave. My temper has been completely under control for 2 weeks now.
Day 86-99: Zero craves, zero dip dreams and temper under control. The strong craves when I drink are also gone. I am disgusted when I see someone dip. Proudly watching my group hit HOF one at a time; which is just how we quit, one day at a time. My guard is still held high as I know the fight is far from over.
Day 100-126: I am on a high as I have reached my first goal. My guard is held the highest it has ever been in because I will not disappoint all those who have helped me.
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Here is a brief timeline on how my quit is going, I'm not sure if it's helpful or not but I made it for another new quitter and he seemed to like it.
The nic is out of your system so it's all fun and games now...right? Well F...guess what? Your body is use to living with nic and now it's mad and is about to really fight you.
The good news is that you understand how to use your tools and you have some good fight in you. The better news is that it gets so much easier very quickly. Now, I realize that "quickly" is a very relative term- as when you are suffering minute to minute, 5 or 6 weeks seem like 100 years. In reality, 5 or 6 weeks is not a very long time.
Keep in mind, I am no expert and I am just going off of what I have experienced the past 73 days. My "suck scale" looked something like this:
Day 1-3: bad fog, my brain didn't work at all. Very little sleep and couldn't take a dump to save my life. I wanted a dip every second of each day.
Day 4-10: Pretty much out of the fog but bad, bad cravings and headache every second of the day
Day 11-14: My cruise control days, I didn't think about dipping much and craves were few and far between. Sleeping good but too much.
Day 15-21 Starting to get my energy level back up. Craves about 2-4 per day and short. The first thing every morning, I started to get an empty and sick feeling in my stomach when I thought about not being able to dip. Started losing my temper easily.
Day 22-25 No real changes, cruising along but feeling a little depressed. I started learning how to hate my addiction and was really mad about it.
Day 26- 30: Wow, I was starting to gain a lot of weight. Weird how I replaced Cope with Ice Cream and cake. I don't even eat sweets but here I am 10 lbs heavier. I don't care, I'm not dipping and the craves are mild.
Day 31-38: Freaking fog was back, some nasty craves and my temper way out of control. WTF!
Day 39-60: The roller coaster days. Mod craves followed by no craves, bad temper and mild depression. A difficult time but I was not giving up at this point.
Day 61-73: The best days by far. Seldom think about dip, temper is way better, sleeping like a normal person and just feeling pretty darn good. I am stacking up these good days to recharge my batteries and prepare for the next round of fights".
Day 74- 85: Really good days. Strong cravings when I have too many drinks so I have been careful with drinking. Normal days are now 0-1 crave. My temper has been completely under control for 2 weeks now.
Day 86-99: Zero craves, zero dip dreams and temper under control. The strong craves when I drink are also gone. I am disgusted when I see someone dip. Proudly watching my group hit HOF one at a time; which is just how we quit, one day at a time. My guard is still held high as I know the fight is far from over.
Day 100-126: I am on a high as I have reached my first goal. My guard is held the highest it has ever been in because I will not disappoint all those who have helped me.
Thanks for sharing, PD!!! You have a ton to be proud of, but my favorite part is that is that there is no "finish line" in there. Great lesson for newbies!!! PD is under control now, but vigilant...constantly vigilant!!!
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Here is a brief timeline on how my quit is going, I'm not sure if it's helpful or not but I made it for another new quitter and he seemed to like it.
The nic is out of your system so it's all fun and games now...right? Well F...guess what? Your body is use to living with nic and now it's mad and is about to really fight you.
The good news is that you understand how to use your tools and you have some good fight in you. The better news is that it gets so much easier very quickly. Now, I realize that "quickly" is a very relative term- as when you are suffering minute to minute, 5 or 6 weeks seem like 100 years. In reality, 5 or 6 weeks is not a very long time.
Keep in mind, I am no expert and I am just going off of what I have experienced the past 73 days. My "suck scale" looked something like this:
Day 1-3: bad fog, my brain didn't work at all. Very little sleep and couldn't take a dump to save my life. I wanted a dip every second of each day.
Day 4-10: Pretty much out of the fog but bad, bad cravings and headache every second of the day
Day 11-14: My cruise control days, I didn't think about dipping much and craves were few and far between. Sleeping good but too much.
Day 15-21 Starting to get my energy level back up. Craves about 2-4 per day and short. The first thing every morning, I started to get an empty and sick feeling in my stomach when I thought about not being able to dip. Started losing my temper easily.
Day 22-25 No real changes, cruising along but feeling a little depressed. I started learning how to hate my addiction and was really mad about it.
Day 26- 30: Wow, I was starting to gain a lot of weight. Weird how I replaced Cope with Ice Cream and cake. I don't even eat sweets but here I am 10 lbs heavier. I don't care, I'm not dipping and the craves are mild.
Day 31-38: Freaking fog was back, some nasty craves and my temper way out of control. WTF!
Day 39-60: The roller coaster days. Mod craves followed by no craves, bad temper and mild depression. A difficult time but I was not giving up at this point.
Day 61-73: The best days by far. Seldom think about dip, temper is way better, sleeping like a normal person and just feeling pretty darn good. I am stacking up these good days to recharge my batteries and prepare for the next round of fights".Â
Day 74- 85: Really good days. Strong cravings when I have too many drinks so I have been careful with drinking. Normal days are now 0-1 crave. My temper has been completely under control for 2 weeks now.
Day 86-99: Zero craves, zero dip dreams and temper under control. The strong craves when I drink are also gone. I am disgusted when I see someone dip. Proudly watching my group hit HOF one at a time; which is just how we quit, one day at a time. My guard is still held high as I know the fight is far from over.
Day 100-126: I am on a high as I have reached my first goal. My guard is held the highest it has ever been in because I will not disappoint all those who have helped me.
Thanks for sharing, PD!!! You have a ton to be proud of, but my favorite part is that is that there is no "finish line" in there. Great lesson for newbies!!! PD is under control now, but vigilant...constantly vigilant!!!
Nice work and good record keeping. As time goes on the "suck" is hard to remember. This is good to go back and recall the journey from time to time.
Always good to remember what it took to claim your freedom so that you protect it and stand on guard against any enemies trying to enslave you again.
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I just had a question for all of you out there. At some points in the day i go from being alert and aware and then all of the sudden its like ive been hit with sleeping gas. Is this common? it happened to me today while driving to work, i felt like my eyes were just too heavy. i pulled over for a few minutes but it didnt help. i just yelled "wake up!" at myself until i got to base.
also, i plan on joining a hof group or whatever as soon as i can think straight and read all this info. my head hurts too much right now to go through all the roll call stuff. thanks for your support guys. 6 days cold turkey down. goodnight all.
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also, i plan on joining a hof group or whatever as soon as i can think straight and read all this info. my head hurts too much right now to go through all the roll call stuff. thanks for your support guys. 6 days cold turkey down. goodnight all.
Damned...I thought we had done a pretty good job of explaining how this quitting program worked...guess not. Whenever you start feeling better, can devote some time to reading about this stuff without your head hurting and decide to join a HOF group or whatever, let us know how we can help.
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also, i plan on joining a hof group or whatever as soon as i can think straight and read all this info. my head hurts too much right now to go through all the roll call stuff. thanks for your support guys. 6 days cold turkey down. goodnight all.
Damned...I thought we had done a pretty good job of explaining how this quitting program worked...guess not. Whenever you start feeling better, can devote some time to reading about this stuff without your head hurting and decide to join a HOF group or whatever, let us know how we can help.
The first time I tried to post roll I was in the midst of the fog, and I swear it took 2 hours. Best 2 hours I ever spent. Now, I can do it on my phone in 30 seconds. Go do it- it is a privilege and an opportunity, not the pain in the ass you are viewing it as.
There is big holiday coming up, days off, football, all kinds of triggers waiting. Use the next couple days to get some accountability going on and your quit in order.
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Damned...I thought we had done a pretty good job of explaining how this quitting program worked...guess not. Whenever you start feeling better, can devote some time to reading about this stuff without your head hurting and decide to join a HOF group or whatever, let us know how we can help.
Well, I'm am now trying to figure out what HOF I'm in and how it all works. Yes, I want to be done. 7 days now still havent touched it. But your reply came off as rude. Of course I should (and will) read all of this info, but in the midst of the "Fog" and with having my duties at home as well as at work, I didn't read everything on the first visit of the site. I've been on here a few times. I thank you all for your support and will find my quit group. I should be sleeping right now, but am on here. I have work in less than 6 hours that I drive an hour to. So, I am taking the time to learn this. I'm just having a rough time sorting through it all, there's a lot here. So I quit on Nov 20 2013, what group am I falling in, and can someone just help me find it? Thank you.
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Community/Quit groups/February 2014 Freedom Fighters.
When you see the 2013 HOF headlines, scroll down and you will find the 2014 ones.
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Damned...I thought we had done a pretty good job of explaining how this quitting program worked...guess not. Whenever you start feeling better, can devote some time to reading about this stuff without your head hurting and decide to join a HOF group or whatever, let us know how we can help.
Well, I'm am now trying to figure out what HOF I'm in and how it all works. Yes, I want to be done. 7 days now still havent touched it. But your reply came off as rude. Of course I should (and will) read all of this info, but in the midst of the "Fog" and with having my duties at home as well as at work, I didn't read everything on the first visit of the site. I've been on here a few times. I thank you all for your support and will find my quit group. I should be sleeping right now, but am on here. I have work in less than 6 hours that I drive an hour to. So, I am taking the time to learn this. I'm just having a rough time sorting through it all, there's a lot here. So I quit on Nov 20 2013, what group am I falling in, and can someone just help me find it? Thank you.
Nobody is "RUDE" and you are not a Special :scowick: .....We know what you are feeling right now and we can take the rage. Bring it here let us have it. We Just need commitment, effort, and you daily promise. Without that we can no help you.... No one will powder your ass here but we can help you quit.
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Community/Quit groups/February 2014 Freedom Fighters.
When you see the 2013 HOF headlines, scroll down and you will find the 2014 ones.
Thank you all for your help. I've found it and posted roll call. And as soon as I get the opportunity after my 10 hour drive today, I will scour this site. Again, thanks to all, and I know nobody can do this for me, but I know that I am not alone.
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Jdub, nice job of posting roll this morning. We post roll dailyÂ…every day, rain or shine. That is our promise to ourselves and our quit brothers we will not use nicotine that day. That is the price of admission to KTC, nothing more. We go to bed, wake up and do it all over the next day. Remember, it is one day at a time around here. Now that you know the basics, send out a few private messages (Inbox (1) on the top right hand side of the screen) to the boys listed as quitters in your quit group asking for telephone numbers. They will respond enthusiastically, I assure you. You see, that is our lifeline. When you donÂ’t post roll, someone in your group will notice and either text or call you wanting to know what the hell the problem is. We call that accountability. You are accountable to your quit group just as much as they are accountable to you. Simple. Stay the course, stay strong and quit whining about me being rudeÂ…I am just trying to help you by shaming you into doing what you know you need to do. I have also sent you a PM with my cell number in it. Call me 24/7 with any questions, when things feel shitty or you just need to vent. But remember, that telephone call is REQUIRED before you are allowed to use nicotine in a moment of weakness. Agreed Buttercup? Welcome aboard.
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JDub,
You have been given great advice from some of the best quitters this site as seen. I don't have a whole hell of a lot to add but I do have a couple of quick notes:
1 - Understand that Accountability, Brotherhood and Commitment that KTC entails or the ABCs of quitting. Once you fully understand these words you will start to see what that means to all of your fellow quitters (new and old).
2 - Make your daily promise, and notice that although you are quitting for yourself, you are giving your word to many others. If you do fall or falter you will let them down as well as yourself. You are a quitter in this group, a part of the structure. If one column falls the structure is weaker, it doesn't mean it will fall but it does mean that others will have to band together to carry more than their original weight.
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My name is Josh or Jdub if you prefer. I'm 23 years old and a Corporal in the Marines. I've been dipping cope and grizzly since i was about 15, started off slow, but by my first year in the Corps, working from 0400 til 2200, i was at 3 cans a day. Depressed, inside the Armory walls with no natural light or windows. My work schedule is much different now thanks to being in a better unit, and on Nov 20 I made the decision to finally quit, for me, not because it was expensive or because my wife wants me to, though I do take those things into consideration. I decided that I was nobody's bitch, and that I wouldn't let some bullshit I'm paying for kill me, or make my life hell one day down the road or God forbid, take my life. So, the Fog, I don't know how severe some of yours were, but i was in a full hallucination. My wife told me I was walking around the house talking to people who weren't there, falling out of bed, talking in my sleep, falling, completely disconnected from reality. I'm currently on day 14 of my quit and have not missed a day on roll call and don't plan on it.
If you're a serious and committed quitter, I want your phone number, and your promise to quit with me, and I will give you mine.
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JDub, I believe you. I feel the quit in your post.
Mogul
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My name is Josh or Jdub if you prefer. I'm 23 years old and a Corporal in the Marines. I've been dipping cope and grizzly since i was about 15, started off slow, but by my first year in the Corps, working from 0400 til 2200, i was at 3 cans a day. Depressed, inside the Armory walls with no natural light or windows. My work schedule is much different now thanks to being in a better unit, and on Nov 20 I made the decision to finally quit, for me, not because it was expensive or because my wife wants me to, though I do take those things into consideration. I decided that I was nobody's bitch, and that I wouldn't let some bullshit I'm paying for kill me, or make my life hell one day down the road or God forbid, take my life. So, the Fog, I don't know how severe some of yours were, but i was in a full hallucination. My wife told me I was walking around the house talking to people who weren't there, falling out of bed, talking in my sleep, falling, completely disconnected from reality. I'm currently on day 14 of my quit and have not missed a day on roll call and don't plan on it.
If you're a serious and committed quitter, I want your phone number, and your promise to quit with me, and I will give you mine.
Josh,
Hey great post today, and great use of my number so far, keep it up brother.
You are only allowed one introduction but one of the admins will come along and merger your posts later.
Keep on quitting daily and reaching out when you need help. As you know I am here for you every step of the way.
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Ok, I had forgotten I had even done one before lol. But thanks, and again, thanks for the support today. If not for this site, I would've caved 2 weeks ago, that is to say, I never would've really quit.
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Look on the bright side, you have plenty of people like me here to help you along the way. The even brighter side is that when I post on here you get to see my avatar of those beautiful boobs bouncing; if you had to see me face to face you would be much more disappointed.
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Jdubthe2nd, Josh. I am glad Grizzlyhasclaws gave you my contact info and plan to keep in touch through your quit. I am so glad you got to this site at what I consider an early age. You are on the right track with the quit, especially knowing you have a wife. I am not in the military, but so appreciate your efforts and I think the discipline you've practiced will ultimately help you in this battle.
I can't lie, the quit is hard. 3 cans a day is a lot of nicotine. I was probably close to a can a day plus some nicotine gum. So, maybe your titration or withdrawl from the nic was harder than some others. If you are past day 14 as your into states, I truly believe you have weathered the worst, at least in terms of the physical withdrawl symptoms. The mental ones seem to keep coming at least for me. I still have dreams about dip. Not nightmares, but dreams that make another dip so wonderful and appealing. The brain still needs time to re-wire the award system. It happens slowly, but my brain learned to reward a good thing with a dip, deal with a bad thing with a dip to make me feel better, deal with high stress with a dip, take a shit with a dip, cut the lawn with a dip. I did this for 30 years, you've got 8 years. We can't be foolish to think that years of nicotine addiction and brain programming can totally be redone in a couple of weeks. This will be a prolonged battle that will never go away, but it does get a little easier.
we are here to support one another as brothers.
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone thats been in contact with me. today is odd. I'm not craving, just got the returning fog, stomach is churning and I feel like my life has centered around where the nearest bathroom is, I'm not jokin when i say i've pulled off the side of the road in my cammies and shit in the woods, more than a couple of times. been puking and again, just feeling
like i'm in a dream. pounding water and gatorade. gets hard tho. Ive had to go see the corpsman a few times on a count of not being able to keep water down when i'm dehydrated (before i quit) and had to have Iv's put in. hope it doesnt come to that. its freezing in that bitch.
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone thats been in contact with me. today is odd. I'm not craving, just got the returning fog, stomach is churning and I feel like my life has centered around where the nearest bathroom is, I'm not jokin when i say i've pulled off the side of the road in my cammies and shit in the woods. been puking and again, just feeling
like i'm in a dream. pounding water and gatorade. gets hard tho. Ive had to go see the corpsman a few times on a count of not being able to keep water down when i'm dehydrated (before i quit) and had to have Iv's put in. hope it doesnt come to that. its freezing in that bitch.
Josh, you are a great addition to KTC. You use text, you post more than the minimum around here and you help others out.
I will always be here to help you in any way. Believe it or not a lot of what you are experiencing is normal. For so many years your addiction to tobacco caused your body to change. When you quit cold turkey beyond your body going through the "changes" you also weaken your immune defense system and this time of year as seasons change that can be bad.
Pull through it and when or if you need me call or text. If this was easy anyone could do it!
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Thanks Corey, as i said before if i hadnt found this site, i wouldve never put the shit down. and I think we all believe in paying this forward. KTC doesn't work without the people who want to support each other. and really, a huge inspiration to me, and a giant goal, is those people who are sticking around for over the 1,000. and for those who are going through the suck and still refuse to quit Quitting.
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Josh, Keep on swinging punches at the nic bitch. You know I'm in your corner. You probably feel real weak right now and maybe your mind is playing cave tricks on you also but I'm telling you that every day, every hour, every minute, every second you deny nicotine you are getting stronger both physically and mentally. IÂ’m proud to be quit with you. P.S. Feel free to send any sunny Florida beach and palm trees pictures my way.
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Josh, Keep on swinging punches at the nic bitch. You know I'm in your corner. You probably feel real weak right now and maybe your mind is playing cave tricks on you also but I'm telling you that every day, every hour, every minute, every second you deny nicotine you are getting stronger both physically and mentally. IÂ’m proud to be quit with you. P.S. Feel free to send any sunny Florida beach and palm trees pictures my way.
I know you are, and many others. That's what brings me more strength to give the 'Finger' to nicotine. Last night was a rough one, flight from afghan returning, people trying to rush me an my marines turning in weapons...which, as the armory chief, i was pissed, how would you ever rush that shit!? Pinched probably knows what I mean. Accountability and all. anyway, these people had me pissed and i was trying to keep my cool and not let them get me frantic. I wanted a dip bad. So f...in bad, but i knew that I could not face the shame of coming here and sayin i caved, or trying to lie to myself and post roll anyway or any of that shit. If anyone else is reading this, know that your Quit is centered around YOU. You have to want to stay Quit more than the people in your life want you Quit.
I've not been on this site very long and I've got a nice list of numbers, and still looking for more, because of somebodys signature that i read, it was a quote i dont remember exactly, but went something like
"the bigger web of accountability I weave, The more legendary my failure will be"
And thats how I look at it. If I were to cave....I would be in despair, knowing I failed everyone that was rooting for me, and that I failed myself. One day at a time, as I'm learning, is a great path. You can say "I will never ever dip again" and lose sight of where you are going. It's that DAILY PROMISE that keeps us all out of the shit.
And if you're on a shit list, shameful and kinda lurkin around before you decide whether or not to come back and face us, Just FUCKING DO IT AND QUIT FOR REAL!
Sorry for the rant
....sorta.
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Josh, Keep on swinging punches at the nic bitch. You know I'm in your corner. You probably feel real weak right now and maybe your mind is playing cave tricks on you also but I'm telling you that every day, every hour, every minute, every second you deny nicotine you are getting stronger both physically and mentally. I’m proud to be quit with you. P.S. Feel free to send any sunny Florida beach and palm trees pictures my way.
I know you are, and many others. That's what brings me more strength to give the 'Finger' to nicotine. Last night was a rough one, flight from afghan returning, people trying to rush me an my marines turning in weapons...which, as the armory chief, i was pissed, how would you ever rush that shit!? Pinched probably knows what I mean. Accountability and all. anyway, these people had me pissed and i was trying to keep my cool and not let them get me frantic. I wanted a dip bad. So f...in bad, but i knew that I could not face the shame of coming here and sayin i caved, or trying to lie to myself and post roll anyway or any of that shit. If anyone else is reading this, know that your Quit is centered around YOU. You have to want to stay Quit more than the people in your life want you Quit.
I've not been on this site very long and I've got a nice list of numbers, and still looking for more, because of somebodys signature that i read, it was a quote i dont remember exactly, but went something like
"the bigger web of accountability I weave, The more legendary my failure will be"
And thats how I look at it. If I were to cave....I would be in despair, knowing I failed everyone that was rooting for me, and that I failed myself. One day at a time, as I'm learning, is a great path. You can say "I will never ever dip again" and lose sight of where you are going. It's that DAILY PROMISE that keeps us all out of the shit.
And if you're on a shit list, shameful and kinda lurkin around before you decide whether or not to come back and face us, Just FUCKING DO IT AND QUIT FOR REAL!
Sorry for the rant
....sorta.
Welcome home and good work! Keep active on your intro post as a way to continue weaving that accountability.
*salute*
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Sorry for the rant
....sorta.
Rant away that is what this shit is for brother. Yes I know exactly what you mean, however I was one of those rushed Marines coming home from Afghan and wanting to drop my shit and run to the closest bar fro a drink then go get some tail. However, I was also the helmet wearing idiot stuffing cancerous shit into my lip at the same time.
None the less, you were the Chief that weapons were being returned to, you would have been in the right to get pissed and vocal.
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Josh, Keep on swinging punches at the nic bitch. You know I'm in your corner. You probably feel real weak right now and maybe your mind is playing cave tricks on you also but I'm telling you that every day, every hour, every minute, every second you deny nicotine you are getting stronger both physically and mentally. I’m proud to be quit with you. P.S. Feel free to send any sunny Florida beach and palm trees pictures my way.
I know you are, and many others. That's what brings me more strength to give the 'Finger' to nicotine. Last night was a rough one, flight from afghan returning, people trying to rush me an my marines turning in weapons...which, as the armory chief, i was pissed, how would you ever rush that shit!? Pinched probably knows what I mean. Accountability and all. anyway, these people had me pissed and i was trying to keep my cool and not let them get me frantic. I wanted a dip bad. So f...in bad, but i knew that I could not face the shame of coming here and sayin i caved, or trying to lie to myself and post roll anyway or any of that shit. If anyone else is reading this, know that your Quit is centered around YOU. You have to want to stay Quit more than the people in your life want you Quit.
I've not been on this site very long and I've got a nice list of numbers, and still looking for more, because of somebodys signature that i read, it was a quote i dont remember exactly, but went something like
"the bigger web of accountability I weave, The more legendary my failure will be"
And thats how I look at it. If I were to cave....I would be in despair, knowing I failed everyone that was rooting for me, and that I failed myself. One day at a time, as I'm learning, is a great path. You can say "I will never ever dip again" and lose sight of where you are going. It's that DAILY PROMISE that keeps us all out of the shit.
And if you're on a shit list, shameful and kinda lurkin around before you decide whether or not to come back and face us, Just FUCKING DO IT AND QUIT FOR REAL!
Sorry for the rant
....sorta.
Another victory story- nice work! You win again! Keep it up, you have a great quit going, and that makes me proud to quit with you!
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Welcome home and good work! Keep active on your intro post as a way to continue weaving that accountability.
*salute*
Just wanted you to know, I wasn't in Afghanistan with them, I was the remaining behind element. Don't want any credit where I have earned none. But thank you.
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DAMN I LOVE THIS FUCKIN SITE! I can't seem to get off of here, and it's awesome. I keep thanking God that I found this and for all these Quitters. Who the hell said Quitters never Win? Not in this instance. Soakin up all the info I can, readin the HOF speeches, no matter how long, they're all worth it. Each one a testimony that we can defeat our addiction. Looking to find out how to set up links and such in the chat so I can direct newbies like myself in an easy fashion that wont confuse them. I know I was confused about roll call the first time i read about it...the Fog didnt help either. lol. Thinking of the day I get to write my HOF speech is like thinking about christmas coming, yea, its a ways down the road, but damn are you excited for it. 1DAAT.
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DAMN I LOVE THIS FUCKIN SITE! I can't seem to get off of here, and it's awesome. I keep thanking God that I found this and for all these Quitters. Who the hell said Quitters never Win? Not in this instance. Soakin up all the info I can, readin the HOF speeches, no matter how long, they're all worth it. Each one a testimony that we can defeat our addiction. Looking to find out how to set up links and such in the chat so I can direct newbies like myself in an easy fashion that wont confuse them. I know I was confused about roll call the first time i read about it...the Fog didnt help either. lol. Thinking of the day I get to write my HOF speech is like thinking about christmas coming, yea, its a ways down the road, but damn are you excited for it. 1DAAT.
This one hell of a thing to be addicted to I also cant get of this site i will go off of the site for a little while then i am back it again.
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Today was tough. Yelled at by a gunny for shit that has nothing to do with me or my marines, found out christmas leave has been yanked. and the regular 4 days off for christmas is now 3, usually just a day tacked on to a weekend. wife is upset, was craving, got the rage, couldnt get to place by myself. the anger started to leak and my wife was in an even more foul mood because of it and all the papers she was grading.
But i'm feelin better now that i'm back home and on the site, seeing new guys come in and the vets taking care of everyone lifts my spirits. its an inspiration that people stay on this site, for we all know the addiction is never actually over. we will have to promise ourselves to be quit everyday until we die, even if some of us stop using the site. I bought some of that smokey mountain ive been hearing about. kinda apprehensive about using it...making me think that it might lead me back to the real whore. and when i told my wife, she snapped at me (because she was thinking the same)....and i thats when i started getting defensive and mad. But i have it just in case, for that emergency crave.
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Today was tough. Yelled at by a gunny for shit that has nothing to do with me or my marines, found out christmas leave has been yanked. and the regular 4 days off for christmas is now 3, usually just a day tacked on to a weekend. wife is upset, was craving, got the rage, couldnt get to place by myself. the anger started to leak and my wife was in an even more foul mood because of it and all the papers she was grading.
But i'm feelin better now that i'm back home and on the site, seeing new guys come in and the vets taking care of everyone lifts my spirits. its an inspiration that people stay on this site, for we all know the addiction is never actually over. we will have to promise ourselves to be quit everyday until we die, even if some of us stop using the site. I bought some of that smokey mountain ive been hearing about. kinda apprehensive about using it...making me think that it might lead me back to the real whore. and when i told my wife, she snapped at me (because she was thinking the same)....and i thats when i started getting defensive and mad. But i have it just in case, for that emergency crave.
Brother I used smokey mountain from day 3 until about day 60. It didn't lead me back to the nic bitch. It was a tool that I used early on to stay quit. Use anything you can to stay quit. I didn't purposely say I was going to stop using smokey mountain. It just happened. I grew tired of it and here I sit at day 201 and havent used any herbal stuff since day 60. But I will tell you that I still use sunflower seeds somewhat regularly. I dont see anything wrong with it. As long as it isnt poison use whatever you need to use. My point of this post is use what you have to use to stay quit. Aint no shame in using smokey mountain. It helped me. I quit with you brother today.
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Today was tough. Yelled at by a gunny for shit that has nothing to do with me or my marines, found out christmas leave has been yanked. and the regular 4 days off for christmas is now 3, usually just a day tacked on to a weekend. wife is upset, was craving, got the rage, couldnt get to place by myself. the anger started to leak and my wife was in an even more foul mood because of it and all the papers she was grading.
But i'm feelin better now that i'm back home and on the site, seeing new guys come in and the vets taking care of everyone lifts my spirits. its an inspiration that people stay on this site, for we all know the addiction is never actually over. we will have to promise ourselves to be quit everyday until we die, even if some of us stop using the site. I bought some of that smokey mountain ive been hearing about. kinda apprehensive about using it...making me think that it might lead me back to the real whore. and when i told my wife, she snapped at me (because she was thinking the same)....and i thats when i started getting defensive and mad. But i have it just in case, for that emergency crave.
One thing that constantly amazes me, even after being quit for 551 is how different you cam feel one day to the next.
You might have had a tough shitty day today, but tomorrow you could feel like a million bucks. Don't let one bad day effect you so much. Accept it, brush it off, and move on.
We had bad days even when we dipped. I had a hard time convincing myself of that when I first quit, as I glorified the hell out of my dipping days...as if every day was just perfect when I dipped. Total bullshit.
As for the Smokey mountain, I hate to tell anybody what fo do about fake. For me personally I did use it for a week or two but didn't like it because...it wasn't dip and it had no nicotine it. It was like drinking odools.
However, others swear by it. Whatever it takes to keep the shit out your lip, is all that matters.
Stay strong and look forward to tomorrow being a better day.
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Today was tough. Yelled at by a gunny for shit that has nothing to do with me or my marines, found out christmas leave has been yanked. and the regular 4 days off for christmas is now 3, usually just a day tacked on to a weekend. wife is upset, was craving, got the rage, couldnt get to place by myself. the anger started to leak and my wife was in an even more foul mood because of it and all the papers she was grading.
But i'm feelin better now that i'm back home and on the site, seeing new guys come in and the vets taking care of everyone lifts my spirits. its an inspiration that people stay on this site, for we all know the addiction is never actually over. we will have to promise ourselves to be quit everyday until we die, even if some of us stop using the site. I bought some of that smokey mountain ive been hearing about. kinda apprehensive about using it...making me think that it might lead me back to the real whore. and when i told my wife, she snapped at me (because she was thinking the same)....and i thats when i started getting defensive and mad. But i have it just in case, for that emergency crave.
One thing that constantly amazes me, even after being quit for 551 is how different you cam feel one day to the next.
You might have had a tough shitty day today, but tomorrow you could feel like a million bucks. Don't let one bad day effect you so much. Accept it, brush it off, and move on.
We had bad days even when we dipped. I had a hard time convincing myself of that when I first quit, as I glorified the hell out of my dipping days...as if every day was just perfect when I dipped. Total bullshit.
As for the Smokey mountain, I hate to tell anybody what fo do about fake. For me personally I did use it for a week or two but didn't like it because...it wasn't dip and it had no nicotine it. It was like drinking odools.
However, others swear by it. Whatever it takes to keep the shit out your lip, is all that matters.
Stay strong and look forward to tomorrow being a better day.
Josh,
Do what works for you. I swore by the fake dip because it helped me. I have had a sealed can of it in my pocket every day for the last four weeks, just in case. Unfortunately the real shit is so easy to come by that I prepare for a craving.
Cinnamon candies are my new bitch. I am here with you brother, you get pissed and want to vent call me up I love a quit ass chewing contest.
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Josh,
Do what works for you. I swore by the fake dip because it helped me. I have had a sealed can of it in my pocket every day for the last four weeks, just in case. Unfortunately the real shit is so easy to come by that I prepare for a craving.
Cinnamon candies are my new bitch. I am here with you brother, you get pissed and want to vent call me up I love a quit ass chewing contest.
Yea, I know it's my decision. and many people are telling me what i expected, 2 different things lol. some say it makes em wanna cave, some swear by it. my wife seems more apprehensive about it than i, but i do wonder. i reckon i'll pick up some cinnamon candies as well. i'm gonna give the smokey mountain a try....if i dont like it, then i wont use it, if i do i guess thats good too. I just hope it doesn't make me crave for dip any more than usual. I like gum and peppermints as well. but i end up eating a lot of em...was thinkin maybe the fake shit would last a bit...and maybe it would taste bad and make me not wanna dip lol. I guess i'll just have to see for myself. And Corey, man, i don't say this lightly, you've been a huge inspiration for me to keep going, every post i throw up, you've got something to say, something positive. You were the first one to really reach out to me, and I count on you to stay quit so i know we can all do it. not just a few. all of us, if we put forth the effort.
Unfortunately for you, Im not the typical marine, I'm a lover and a mediator most times. But...maybe, just maybe, the rage will get me in the mood one day, and we'll have a good laugh.
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Josh,
Do what works for you. I swore by the fake dip because it helped me. I have had a sealed can of it in my pocket every day for the last four weeks, just in case. Unfortunately the real shit is so easy to come by that I prepare for a craving.
Cinnamon candies are my new bitch. I am here with you brother, you get pissed and want to vent call me up I love a quit ass chewing contest.
Yea, I know it's my decision. and many people are telling me what i expected, 2 different things lol. some say it makes em wanna cave, some swear by it. my wife seems more apprehensive about it than i, but i do wonder. i reckon i'll pick up some cinnamon candies as well. i'm gonna give the smokey mountain a try....if i dont like it, then i wont use it, if i do i guess thats good too. I just hope it doesn't make me crave for dip any more than usual. I like gum and peppermints as well. but i end up eating a lot of em...was thinkin maybe the fake shit would last a bit...and maybe it would taste bad and make me not wanna dip lol. I guess i'll just have to see for myself. And Corey, man, i don't say this lightly, you've been a huge inspiration for me to keep going, every post i throw up, you've got something to say, something positive. You were the first one to really reach out to me, and I count on you to stay quit so i know we can all do it. not just a few. all of us, if we put forth the effort.
Unfortunately for you, Im not the typical marine, I'm a lover and a mediator most times. But...maybe, just maybe, the rage will get me in the mood one day, and we'll have a good laugh.
J - I feel you on the fake stuff. I debated using it for awhile, but in the end, based on advice from the vets around here, I picked some up. Here's my thoughts on it: It helps me in the moments where I could otherwise easily cave. Example: Band practice with my buds that all chew. Have a few beers, cans of chew every where - easy situation to be tempted to cave. If I get a bad crave, I know I have an emergency outlet (the fake). Normally I will pull out the 120 day old Kern story from my wallet, or my contract to cave and reread...but sometimes, 5 minutes with a fake chew makes the crave subside. Do what works for you, but in my opinion, every tool you carry in your quit tool box is another layer of protection to your quit. Proud to be quit with you today!
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Josh,
Do what works for you. I swore by the fake dip because it helped me. I have had a sealed can of it in my pocket every day for the last four weeks, just in case. Unfortunately the real shit is so easy to come by that I prepare for a craving.
Cinnamon candies are my new bitch. I am here with you brother, you get pissed and want to vent call me up I love a quit ass chewing contest.
Yea, I know it's my decision. and many people are telling me what i expected, 2 different things lol. some say it makes em wanna cave, some swear by it. my wife seems more apprehensive about it than i, but i do wonder. i reckon i'll pick up some cinnamon candies as well. i'm gonna give the smokey mountain a try....if i dont like it, then i wont use it, if i do i guess thats good too. I just hope it doesn't make me crave for dip any more than usual. I like gum and peppermints as well. but i end up eating a lot of em...was thinkin maybe the fake shit would last a bit...and maybe it would taste bad and make me not wanna dip lol. I guess i'll just have to see for myself. And Corey, man, i don't say this lightly, you've been a huge inspiration for me to keep going, every post i throw up, you've got something to say, something positive. You were the first one to really reach out to me, and I count on you to stay quit so i know we can all do it. not just a few. all of us, if we put forth the effort.
Unfortunately for you, Im not the typical marine, I'm a lover and a mediator most times. But...maybe, just maybe, the rage will get me in the mood one day, and we'll have a good laugh.
J - I feel you on the fake stuff. I debated using it for awhile, but in the end, based on advice from the vets around here, I picked some up. Here's my thoughts on it: It helps me in the moments where I could otherwise easily cave. Example: Band practice with my buds that all chew. Have a few beers, cans of chew every where - easy situation to be tempted to cave. If I get a bad crave, I know I have an emergency outlet (the fake). Normally I will pull out the 120 day old Kern story from my wallet, or my contract to cave and reread...but sometimes, 5 minutes with a fake chew makes the crave subside. Do what works for you, but in my opinion, every tool you carry in your quit tool box is another layer of protection to your quit. Proud to be quit with you today!
you have to watch pinched and those ass chewing contests..... 'crackup'
anyway, I used the fake brand called Hooch that I had to order online. It was more like the fine cut that I had used for 23 years. It helped me through the first 2 months. It got me through the cravings and what I did was use less and less at a time (about the size of a pea). That way it 'felt' different from when I had used. But it still gave me the flavor and the knowledge that something was in my lip.
But then after 2 months since there was no chemical dependence to the fake, it sort of just 'went away' to where I did not need it anymore. I actually still have about 6 cans in my desk. And in the past 6 months I may have used it twice (the once during what was my biggest trigger and that was coaching tournament baseball at the 11 year old level).
But like a lot of what you see and read, it is just another tool that you can use if you decide to do so.
You got this Josh, you can and will keep this quit strong.
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jdubsII, it is great to see you working the intro threads. Get that accountability up there by knowing others are looking at you to lead the way. You are winning. Learn it, live it love it.
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Just wanted to say, and have everyone remember, that today is Dec 7, the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Gents, lets all take a moment today, whether you're like Pinched, Bulldog, Neonpanther, Mogul, or myself being active/former military or just been a civilian all your life, remember the lives lost there and what happened as a result. Our involvement In WW2, which my grandfathers proudly fought in, and captured a few flags that i still cherish today.
Remember that they did not relent in the time of war against evil, the pressed on, knowing that they had each other to count on, and thats all that mattered really. keeping one another alive and safe. Make that your purpose here, keeping one another quit as much as you have the power to. Let us not relent in our battle against nicotine, because all of us military gents know, what a waste it would be to die to nicotine...instead of a real war that you could be proud of and be honored.
Don't forget our heroes today. Thank you
Cpl West, 2171, USMC/ Active.
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Just wanted to say, and have everyone remember, that today is Dec 7, the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Gents, lets all take a moment today, whether you're like Pinched, Bulldog, Neonpanther, Mogul, or myself being active/former military or just been a civilian all your life, remember the lives lost there and what happened as a result. Our involvement In WW2, which my grandfathers proudly fought in, and captured a few flags that i still cherish today.
Remember that they did not relent in the time of war against evil, the pressed on, knowing that they had each other to count on, and thats all that mattered really. keeping one another alive and safe. Make that your purpose here, keeping one another quit as much as you have the power to. Let us not relent in our battle against nicotine, because all of us military gents know, what a waste it would be to die to nicotine...instead of a real war that you could be proud of and be honored.
Don't forget our heroes today. Thank you
Cpl West, 2171, USMC/ Active.
Semper Fi! Thanks for the reminder bro. An important day in our history and one that will never be forgotten. Proud to be quit with you today!
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Just wanted to say, and have everyone remember, that today is Dec 7, the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Gents, lets all take a moment today, whether you're like Pinched, Bulldog, Neonpanther, Mogul, or myself being active/former military or just been a civilian all your life, remember the lives lost there and what happened as a result. Our involvement In WW2, which my grandfathers proudly fought in, and captured a few flags that i still cherish today.
Remember that they did not relent in the time of war against evil, the pressed on, knowing that they had each other to count on, and thats all that mattered really. keeping one another alive and safe. Make that your purpose here, keeping one another quit as much as you have the power to. Let us not relent in our battle against nicotine, because all of us military gents know, what a waste it would be to die to nicotine...instead of a real war that you could be proud of and be honored.
Don't forget our heroes today. Thank you
Cpl West, 2171, USMC/ Active.
Oohrah!!! Never forget those in whose footsteps we tread, whether that's the men and women who fought and died for our freedom or those brothers and sisters who have walked this path of quit we are on now and left the roadmap to guide us home. Semper Fidelis.
USMC ( Uncle Sam's Misguided Children)
0311 rifleman
Bravo 1/4 1989 to 1993
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Gents,
A confusing and hurtful time has come my way. I will be facing artice 15 tomorrow (non judicial punishment) as well as administrative separation from the corps. I'm being charged with testing positive for anti depressants on a urinalysis. I won't sit here and try to convince any one person that I am innocent, I feel like it is a waste of my time, being that nobody believes anyway. I need no legal counsel, I've had plenty of it, and accepting this is the best route. I do not understand how this has come to be, or why. I know that this is not the end, and that I still have a future ahead of me. While I am concerned with providing for my wife, I know we will make it through. What hurts the most, is that I may not have been the fastest/strongest marine, but I did my job and well. I will be losing all the benefits I have earned and worked so hard for. Honestly, nicotine is very appealing, but I know that it could only cause more problems, especially financially. Depending on the punishment given tomorrow, I may not be able to post roll for up to 45 days. With that being said, if that is the case, then i will write my roll call in a logbook and have another marine sign and date it. Hopefully that is not the case, but we will see.
'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' cowboy cowboy cowboy 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' :( :( :( :( :( :(
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Gents,
A confusing and hurtful time has come my way. I will be facing artice 15 tomorrow (non judicial punishment) as well as administrative separation from the corps. I'm being charged with testing positive for anti depressants on a urinalysis. I won't sit here and try to convince any one person that I am innocent, I feel like it is a waste of my time, being that nobody believes anyway. I need no legal counsel, I've had plenty of it, and accepting this is the best route. I do not understand how this has come to be, or why. I know that this is not the end, and that I still have a future ahead of me. While I am concerned with providing for my wife, I know we will make it through. What hurts the most, is that I may not have been the fastest/strongest marine, but I did my job and well. I will be losing all the benefits I have earned and worked so hard for. Honestly, nicotine is very appealing, but I know that it could only cause more problems, especially financially. Depending on the punishment given tomorrow, I may not be able to post roll for up to 45 days. With that being said, if that is the case, then i will write my roll call in a logbook and have another marine sign and date it. Hopefully that is not the case, but we will see.
'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' cowboy cowboy cowboy 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' :( :( :( :( :( :(
Josh,
Stay the course. Do what you can to explain and let things be what they will be. I hated seeing your message yesterday and today. I wish you open minds and listening ears because luck is a crock of shit.
Pinched
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Gents,
     A confusing and hurtful time has come my way. I will be facing artice 15 tomorrow (non judicial punishment) as well as administrative separation from the corps. I'm being charged with testing positive for anti depressants on a urinalysis. I won't sit here and try to convince any one person that I am innocent, I feel like it is a waste of my time, being that nobody believes anyway. I need no legal counsel, I've had plenty of it, and accepting this is the best route. I do not understand how this has come to be, or why. I know that this is not the end, and that I still have a future ahead of me. While I am concerned with providing for my wife, I know we will make it through. What hurts the most, is that I may not have been the fastest/strongest marine, but I did my job and well. I will be losing all the benefits I have earned and worked so hard for. Honestly, nicotine is very appealing, but I know that it could only cause more problems, especially financially. Depending on the punishment given tomorrow, I may not be able to post roll for up to 45 days. With that being said, if that is the case, then i will write my roll call in a logbook and have another marine sign and date it. Hopefully that is not the case, but we will see.
'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' cowboy cowboy cowboy 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' :( :( :( :( :( :(
Josh,
Stay the course. Do what you can to explain and let things be what they will be. I hated seeing your message yesterday and today. I wish you open minds and listening ears because luck is a crock of shit.
Pinched
Hey I just wanted to let you know that I am praying for you also remember everything is done for.a reason to make us stronger keep your head up and keep on quitting brother one day at a time
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Hey guys, wondering if there is anyone in North Carolina or nearby that would like to meet up at some point. Also, I need to begin networking, I have a little time before I get out of the corps and I don't know many people. I'll be having to look for a job and am pretty nervous, I am not even sure about what I will be trying to go into. If you have any thoughts, or recommendations let me know. I'm kinda lost in the sauce here.
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I've been having a fairly rough week. Sitting through this military to civilian transition class. All I can t think about is how I might not be able to find a job. How I don't even know what kind of discharge I will be getting is. How I don't even know what the fuck I want to do. Will I have my GI bill? Will I have to apply for student aid? Do I want to pursue an apprenticeship? or just randomly fill out job applications. I know a couple of you have talked to me before, but I'm just feeling fucked up. This shit still stings, and on top of it, the cravings which I haven't really had in a couple of weeks have come back with intensity. I keep visualizing putting a fat pinch in my lip and packing that can. I want it, but I don't! I talked to my wife about everything I'm feeling lately, but she just doesn't understand. She doesn't understand the military life, and how it feels to be getting out, especially under the circumstances I am. When I voice my concerns, she's just dismissing them with simple answers. To be honest, I'm scared. I know I have the tools and ability, I just can't seem to find where to look, or what I should. What if I fuck it up? How will I support my wife? I don't really like to play the "woe is me" card, I just feel trapped right now, and the nic bitch is fucking screaming in my ear.
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I've been having a fairly rough week. Sitting through this military to civilian transition class. All I can t think about is how I might not be able to find a job. How I don't even know what kind of discharge I will be getting is. How I don't even know what the fuck I want to do. Will I have my GI bill? Will I have to apply for student aid? Do I want to pursue an apprenticeship? or just randomly fill out job applications. I know a couple of you have talked to me before, but I'm just feeling fucked up. This shit still stings, and on top of it, the cravings which I haven't really had in a couple of weeks have come back with intensity. I keep visualizing putting a fat pinch in my lip and packing that can. I want it, but I don't! I talked to my wife about everything I'm feeling lately, but she just doesn't understand. She doesn't understand the military life, and how it feels to be getting out, especially under the circumstances I am. When I voice my concerns, she's just dismissing them with simple answers. To be honest, I'm scared. I know I have the tools and ability, I just can't seem to find where to look, or what I should. What if I fuck it up? How will I support my wife? I don't really like to play the "woe is me" card, I just feel trapped right now, and the nic bitch is fucking screaming in my ear.
Hi.
So let's start with this. Nicotine cannot make anything better. Ever. In any way.
She will scream and sometimes, even whisper your name just to get your attention. When she does, she will not let up easily. This will never stop.
Understand that the cravings will become less, but it takes time. You can't solve all of this right now in this very instant, so just deal with today. You are making yourself stress out, understandably so with what seems to be a lot on your plate, but.......you are going to be just fine.
Breathe.......that sneaky bitch knows just when to creep in. Fight thru it. You got this!
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I've been having a fairly rough week. Sitting through this military to civilian transition class. All I can t think about is how I might not be able to find a job. How I don't even know what kind of discharge I will be getting is. How I don't even know what the fuck I want to do. Will I have my GI bill? Will I have to apply for student aid? Do I want to pursue an apprenticeship? or just randomly fill out job applications. I know a couple of you have talked to me before, but I'm just feeling fucked up. This shit still stings, and on top of it, the cravings which I haven't really had in a couple of weeks have come back with intensity. I keep visualizing putting a fat pinch in my lip and packing that can. I want it, but I don't! I talked to my wife about everything I'm feeling lately, but she just doesn't understand. She doesn't understand the military life, and how it feels to be getting out, especially under the circumstances I am. When I voice my concerns, she's just dismissing them with simple answers. To be honest, I'm scared. I know I have the tools and ability, I just can't seem to find where to look, or what I should. What if I fuck it up? How will I support my wife? I don't really like to play the "woe is me" card, I just feel trapped right now, and the nic bitch is fucking screaming in my ear.
Hi.
So let's start with this. Nicotine cannot make anything better. Ever. In any way.
She will scream and sometimes, even whisper your name just to get your attention. When she does, she will not let up easily. This will never stop.
Understand that the cravings will become less, but it takes time. You can't solve all of this right now in this very instant, so just deal with today. You are making yourself stress out, understandably so with what seems to be a lot on your plate, but.......you are going to be just fine.
Breathe.......that sneaky bitch knows just when to creep in. Fight thru it. You got this!
If you could pick any career what would it be? List off the top 10 career choices for you. Cross off the unrealistic ones. The focus in on the ones you want.
If I were your age I'd get into underwater welding. I think those dudes make some good dough.
That's my advice. Go and get it, the world is your oyster and you're not burdened by nicotine. Don't you dare let it back in!
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I've been having a fairly rough week. Sitting through this military to civilian transition class. All I can t think about is how I might not be able to find a job. How I don't even know what kind of discharge I will be getting is. How I don't even know what the fuck I want to do. Will I have my GI bill? Will I have to apply for student aid? Do I want to pursue an apprenticeship? or just randomly fill out job applications. I know a couple of you have talked to me before, but I'm just feeling fucked up. This shit still stings, and on top of it, the cravings which I haven't really had in a couple of weeks have come back with intensity. I keep visualizing putting a fat pinch in my lip and packing that can. I want it, but I don't! I talked to my wife about everything I'm feeling lately, but she just doesn't understand. She doesn't understand the military life, and how it feels to be getting out, especially under the circumstances I am. When I voice my concerns, she's just dismissing them with simple answers. To be honest, I'm scared. I know I have the tools and ability, I just can't seem to find where to look, or what I should. What if I fuck it up? How will I support my wife? I don't really like to play the "woe is me" card, I just feel trapped right now, and the nic bitch is fucking screaming in my ear.
Hi.
So let's start with this. Nicotine cannot make anything better. Ever. In any way.
She will scream and sometimes, even whisper your name just to get your attention. When she does, she will not let up easily. This will never stop.
Understand that the cravings will become less, but it takes time. You can't solve all of this right now in this very instant, so just deal with today. You are making yourself stress out, understandably so with what seems to be a lot on your plate, but.......you are going to be just fine.
Breathe.......that sneaky bitch knows just when to creep in. Fight thru it. You got this!
If you could pick any career what would it be? List off the top 10 career choices for you. Cross off the unrealistic ones. The focus in on the ones you want.
If I were your age I'd get into underwater welding. I think those dudes make some good dough.
That's my advice. Go and get it, the world is your oyster and you're not burdened by nicotine. Don't you dare let it back in!
That transition is not by any means easy, but the ideals taught and learned from the Marine Corps. actually give you a jump start ahead of most civilians. You need to make some choices about what kind of career path you wish to follow. Then use the same tenacity that you used to get through phases 1-3. Then nut up[ and tackle that job no matter what it is full steam ahead.
The one thing that you have is Marine tenacity above all. Just like when you made decisions about what MOS you wanted and how you mapped out how to get it do just that.
Civilian life is way different, just be prepared for the velvet hammers, as post USMC I notice that very few people are direct, most are backstabbing bitches. In civilian life no one will get in your face with a full brimmed hat and scream at you to do your daily routine.
Damn, I can't believe that I miss that some times.
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I've been having a fairly rough week. Sitting through this military to civilian transition class. All I can t think about is how I might not be able to find a job. How I don't even know what kind of discharge I will be getting is. How I don't even know what the fuck I want to do. Will I have my GI bill? Will I have to apply for student aid? Do I want to pursue an apprenticeship? or just randomly fill out job applications. I know a couple of you have talked to me before, but I'm just feeling fucked up. This shit still stings, and on top of it, the cravings which I haven't really had in a couple of weeks have come back with intensity. I keep visualizing putting a fat pinch in my lip and packing that can. I want it, but I don't! I talked to my wife about everything I'm feeling lately, but she just doesn't understand. She doesn't understand the military life, and how it feels to be getting out, especially under the circumstances I am. When I voice my concerns, she's just dismissing them with simple answers. To be honest, I'm scared. I know I have the tools and ability, I just can't seem to find where to look, or what I should. What if I fuck it up? How will I support my wife? I don't really like to play the "woe is me" card, I just feel trapped right now, and the nic bitch is fucking screaming in my ear.
Hi.
So let's start with this. Nicotine cannot make anything better. Ever. In any way.
She will scream and sometimes, even whisper your name just to get your attention. When she does, she will not let up easily. This will never stop.
Understand that the cravings will become less, but it takes time. You can't solve all of this right now in this very instant, so just deal with today. You are making yourself stress out, understandably so with what seems to be a lot on your plate, but.......you are going to be just fine.
Breathe.......that sneaky bitch knows just when to creep in. Fight thru it. You got this!
If you could pick any career what would it be? List off the top 10 career choices for you. Cross off the unrealistic ones. The focus in on the ones you want.
If I were your age I'd get into underwater welding. I think those dudes make some good dough.
That's my advice. Go and get it, the world is your oyster and you're not burdened by nicotine. Don't you dare let it back in!
Humans tend to 'awfulize' things. There is positive in your life. You're focusing on the negatives. Make a plan. Grizz had some good advice. You know you'll probably get an OTH. You're not the first, nor the last. You didn't break any laws, just rules. Be honest with yourself. I consulted in the oil business. Roughnecks in the field are working 14 on/14 off and bringing home $75k+. Lots of them have prison time. It's tough work for tough men. Opportunities are out there. Tackle your challenges, get moving. Get busy living or lie down and take it. Find your strengths and focus on them. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. You can't fuck something up if you don't do it.
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I owe all of you an apology. No, I did not cave or anything like that. But I really had meant to be more active on the site. Many of you know the situation I am in and have had to deal with recently, and it has been difficult to try and be a part of it all. I had felt and still feel very strongly about what the KTC is all about and I love to help out in whatever way I can. I am here to just tell you guys now, that through this next 200, I am making it a point to give more time to you all and get even more involved with the
site and support of the pre hofs. And when I get some things settled, I would like to help with spreadsheets or whatever needs to be done. I just felt bad, like all of you have helped so much. And I know I have been dealing with crazy shit, but I feel the need to pick up the slack. I told all of you that I am here for you and your quit, and I have been. But now you will be able to notice it. You are all like a second family. I don't have any friends here in NC and I won't be going back to fl, so it's good to have some folks to hear from.
Anyway, please let me know if I can help any of you. Pm for my number. And if anyone is in NC, let me know if people are meeting up. And my wife got me a HOF coin, so thats whats up.
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I owe all of you an apology. No, I did not cave or anything like that. But I really had meant to be more active on the site. Many of you know the situation I am in and have had to deal with recently, and it has been difficult to try and be a part of it all. I had felt and still feel very strongly about what the KTC is all about and I love to help out in whatever way I can. I am here to just tell you guys now, that through this next 200, I am making it a point to give more time to you all and get even more involved with the
site and support of the pre hofs. And when I get some things settled, I would like to help with spreadsheets or whatever needs to be done. I just felt bad, like all of you have helped so much. And I know I have been dealing with crazy shit, but I feel the need to pick up the slack. I told all of you that I am here for you and your quit, and I have been. But now you will be able to notice it. You are all like a second family. I don't have any friends here in NC and I won't be going back to fl, so it's good to have some folks to hear from.
Anyway, please let me know if I can help any of you. Pm for my number. And if anyone is in NC, let me know if people are meeting up. And my wife got me a HOF coin, so thats whats up.
Your quit is about you. You help others when you are able.
Great thoughts from you and I'm proud to quit with you.
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I owe all of you an apology. No, I did not cave or anything like that. But I really had meant to be more active on the site. Many of you know the situation I am in and have had to deal with recently, and it has been difficult to try and be a part of it all. I had felt and still feel very strongly about what the KTC is all about and I love to help out in whatever way I can. I am here to just tell you guys now, that through this next 200, I am making it a point to give more time to you all and get even more involved with the
site and support of the pre hofs. And when I get some things settled, I would like to help with spreadsheets or whatever needs to be done. I just felt bad, like all of you have helped so much. And I know I have been dealing with crazy shit, but I feel the need to pick up the slack. I told all of you that I am here for you and your quit, and I have been. But now you will be able to notice it. You are all like a second family. I don't have any friends here in NC and I won't be going back to fl, so it's good to have some folks to hear from.
Anyway, please let me know if I can help any of you. Pm for my number. And if anyone is in NC, let me know if people are meeting up. And my wife got me a HOF coin, so thats whats up.
Your quit is about you. You help others when you are able.
Great thoughts from you and I'm proud to quit with you.
^^^ what Claws says x2
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Brother Jdub, you don't owe me an apology. you know what, enough said.
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I caved. I originally quit on Nov 20 2013. and I caved last week. after the website changed, I ended up not coming back. I lasted a while. well I have a problem with stopping smoking pot. my wife gave me the ultimatum of pot or her many times. I didn't stop. I lied about it, spent money we needed. she left. we are separated to be divorced in a year. So, for some reason, I chose nicotine. and I regret it immensely. what I can do differently is remain accountable to you all. I need you guys. I have nobody now. I'm living in my wife's home state and I know nobody here. I want to die.
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When the website changed? Like when we installed the new boards?
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I guess. I wasn't able to log on when that happened and it took a little bit for the mods to let me on, for some reason I was blocked. I just ended up not coming back
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Hey man,
That sucks. Your group is hitting a year quit right now. It seems you understand the importance of being here and being active and posting roll. Get your day one posted with your new group and answer the 3 questions for your new group and for January 14. Your post about caving was at least a humble cry for help so I can and want to help you if I can. I just hope you are serious and strong enough. It sounds like you are going through a tough time. But at least you realize nicotine isn't making anything better.
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I guess. I wasn't able to log on when that happened and it took a little bit for the mods to let me on, for some reason I was blocked. I just ended up not coming back
So you didn't see all the announcements we made and even the alternative roles that were started?
Why didn't you reach out to anybody?
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Join your boy cpoz in January. Answer the three questions. You know the drill.
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I guess. I wasn't able to log on when that happened and it took a little bit for the mods to let me on, for some reason I was blocked. I just ended up not coming back
So you didn't see all the announcements we made and even the alternative roles that were started?
Why didn't you reach out to anybody?
Hey brother, you had my number and my support and you just drifted off the map. I actually know quite a few peeps that you had numbers for that you could have contacted.
What are you going to do differently this time, what is your plan? Obviously if you do the same thing again you're going to end up at the same place so something needs to change, right? I'm not trying to be a dick here but please answer the three questions Marine:
1- what happen?
2- why did it happen?
3- what will be different this time?
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sorry to hear it. Sad. I hope you can do it now. Stay involved man, you slipped a long time ago and recognized it. Trust your instinct to protect your quit.
You did have my number, too.
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What happened was my wife left. I was stressed an anxious and I felt like I had nothing. then comes along my neighbor with his pack of smokes. it'll calm ya down he said. I believed it. I didn't reach out because KTC was nowhere on my mind, only losing my woman. I had your numbers on my old phone. I guess I could have gotten them again off of here. I let my sorrow and stress overcome me and I broke. this time I will remain active in KTC and stay accountable with you all, and USE the contacts I've made. I'm sorry gents, I let you and me down.
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What happened was my wife left. I was stressed an anxious and I felt like I had nothing. then comes along my neighbor with his pack of smokes. it'll calm ya down he said. I believed it. I didn't reach out because KTC was nowhere on my mind, only losing my woman. I had your numbers on my old phone. I guess I could have gotten them again off of here. I let my sorrow and stress overcome me and I broke. this time I will remain active in KTC and stay accountable with you all, and USE the contacts I've made. I'm sorry gents, I let you and me down.
Josh,
Welcome back from the clutches of nicotine, hopefully this time for good. You didn't indicate above but did the smoke really help? Were you not overcome with the feeling of absolute failure from ending your quit and gambling your life to nicotine again? Sorry to hear about your loss but remember it is not the circumstances that make the man but the way in which they deal with the circumstance.
Sucks bro because you got phone numbers and many people you could talk to about all kinds of shit. I hope you can come back with a vengeance and this time be consistent with your posting and be a pillar of the KTC community.
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Josh,
I think you are making the right decision to get right back to your quit but I think you need to also examine some deeper issues if what you said was true. You continued to smoke marijuana until it destroyed your marriage? Wow, that might be an issue and there are so many complexities that could be involved as to why you would do that, I would suggest professional assistance with that matter. You do realize that smoking marijuana is worse for your health or at least as bad then cigarettes correct? It also causes cancer and the tar in a joint is 20x worse then a cigarette. I wish you all the best with your quit if you are serious but get some help bro.........
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I've gone to get help, our marriage counselor refuses to see me alone because she thinks i need a substance abuse counselor. But i cant even afford that shit. and i dont have insurance. I need anti depressants. moderate-severe derpession runs in my family. Im finally going to put pot down too. I havent smoke pot since saturday. I finally want to do it for me and not her. She gave me the ultimatum many times and i ignored it. Well now i finally get it, and i want to stop...but she's gone. Im hoping we can work things out.
and to Pinched, No the smoke didnt help at all.
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Sorry for the short replies. I had to use my phone. now on a computer.
So, yea I caved. My wife and I had problems with me smoking pot. I couldn't stop and stop hiding it from her. She finally had enough and left. I was/am in despair. I wanted anything that could make the pain stop. The decision to accept that cigarette from that neighbor was an impulse. The fact is, I didn't think about it, it just happened. before I knew it, I had a pack in my hand. Maybe the reason was I was lonely and smoking can be a social interaction. I had almost no problem throughout this year staying quit until now. I broke because I am weak. I broke because the first time I tried, my wife was with me. she was my strength and motivation. and I felt like it really didn't matter anymore. Why should I care about myself? I thought immaturely. And I knew I was wrong after I took that first hit, but I didn't stop. And I kept on because I didn't want to go through The Suck again. I was afraid of how it would affect me in my current emotional state. I can't fucking believe I threw away almost a year of being quit. And it did me no good. My wife came to visit me at work and smelled the smoke. She was furious and I've just pushed her away that much more. I want to quit nicotine for good so I can manage to live a long healthy life, hopefully with my wife.
I had gotten away from KTC and the text group I was a part of. My phone ended up broken and got another one. I never had retrieved the phone numbers I collected. Very stupid of me. And yes, piss poor planning. I should've been ready to reach out. I should've turned that smoke down. And I should've quit smoking pot long ago.
So brothers, I know I dishonored myself and broke my word. But I would ask you let me be quit with you. This time I quit nicotine. This time I quit Marijuana. No excuses, no crutches. Just a warm welcome to withdrawal and the hard times to come. I will reach out this time. I will stay active, I will post EVERY DAMN DAY. I will quit like fuck! For myself and you all. I will show you that change is possible. That failing once doesn't mean you will always fail. I cannot do this alone. I need my brothers in quit. My head is pounding and my heart is broken. Theres no where to go but up.
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I've gone to get help, our marriage counselor refuses to see me alone because she thinks i need a substance abuse counselor. But i cant even afford that shit. and i dont have insurance. I need anti depressants. moderate-severe derpession runs in my family. Im finally going to put pot down too. I havent smoke pot since saturday. I finally want to do it for me and not her. She gave me the ultimatum many times and i ignored it. Well now i finally get it, and i want to stop...but she's gone. Im hoping we can work things out.
and to Pinched, No the smoke didnt help at all.
Well Josh, it sounds like your marriage counselor might be right about the substance abuse but since I only know what you have put here in this intro, it would be difficult to say without background. I can tell you that I have seen lots of people smoke pot "harmlessly" and before they know it, their life is in the shitter. Its all great it your late teens and early 20's but unfortunately we all get older. The problem with any mind altering substance is that it can effect your dopamine and neuro-pathway's which ultimately can cause long term issues such as depression. This is because you have been feeding your brain that dopamine from an outside source and it stopped producing its own or backed way off. Not saying that is the case with you as I would need more information but just some food for thought. I am glad to hear that you are stopping marijuana now as well and are getting back on the quit train as well. Not trying to dog you here, just trying to provide the little insight I have to you and anyone else who might give a shit. Hang in there and for sure go see a professional regardless if your insurance covers it. You mental health is worth it dude!
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Thanks Menace. I'm grateful for you guys. I live in NC, where my wife is from. I don't know anybody here. My wife is kicking me out. I'm moving to Memphis to work with my brother as an electrician. It may be the best thing for me to do. So i have to be responsible for myself. I'm hoping my wife will give me one last chance to prove I can do this. All of it. Quit pot, nic, lying, wasting money and time. I spend most of my time in tears and my house is empty (she's at her moms). I havent felt this alone since my dad died when i was 11.
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I actually think you're in a good situation. No where to go but up. You feel awful now at how things have worked out but they will get better.
Use this site to build a quit that strengthens you in other areas. If I'm in your shoes, I focus all of my energies on a long term quit. You beat the nic demon and you will be invigorated to tackle other problem areas.
Be true to yourself.
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I'm glad you're reading this. Just saw you post in January. Lot of shit going down but the only person the can pull you out of it is the man in the mirror. Win the nic battle, then move to priority 2.
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If you're quit and you're going strong, you might start to think that you have this beat. SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.
I was quit for almost a year. and now I'm on day 3. Don't make the same mistake I did and get away from KTC! This is your only defense! You cannot trust yourself to make the right decision! I was fine. I thought I had this shit on lock. Nicotine couldn't touch me, that is until I picked her up. Without each other, we will be slaves forever. I am thankful that I was allowed to return. And i will not miss a day of posting. I will not leave the KTC. I'm going to the fucking hall of legends.
Any of you could be the next one to fall. I never thought I would. Don't be so stupid and proud. REACH OUT! Like I should have! The disappointment you face in yourself is ridiculous.
Please listen to me, you can't quit alone, thats why we are here. Don't think you can post, reach the HOF and be cured. YOU ARE NEVER CURED! That is why it's one day at a time.
I'll get off my soapbox now. Just learn from me and my mistake. I wish i was approaching a year of quit.
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If you're quit and you're going strong, you might start to think that you have this beat. SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.
I was quit for almost a year. and now I'm on day 3. Don't make the same mistake I did and get away from KTC! This is your only defense! You cannot trust yourself to make the right decision! I was fine. I thought I had this shit on lock. Nicotine couldn't touch me, that is until I picked her up. Without each other, we will be slaves forever. I am thankful that I was allowed to return. And i will not miss a day of posting. I will not leave the KTC. I'm going to the fucking hall of legends.
Any of you could be the next one to fall. I never thought I would. Don't be so stupid and proud. REACH OUT! Like I should have! The disappointment you face in yourself is ridiculous.
Please listen to me, you can't quit alone, thats why we are here. Don't think you can post, reach the HOF and be cured. YOU ARE NEVER CURED! That is why it's one day at a time.
I'll get off my soapbox now. Just learn from me and my mistake. I wish i was approaching a year of quit.
Well no shit dumbass! Glad you're back. Stick around this time.
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Is there anyone on here that i can talk to about my drug addiction? the page for it is kinda empty
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Is there anyone on here that i can talk to about my drug addiction? the page for it is kinda empty
You can try jumping on chat. I used to smoke pot back in the day. Not so much the past 30 years. For me it was not a big deal. i just stopped. Tell me about your trials.
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You are going thru hell right now and for that, I'm sorry. I think you're going to need more than just us nic addicts to guide you they this. I suggest getting some professional help. I think we can all feel your sadness and pain by reading your words and I believe you need it. I still stand by you and will quit with you. I'm on day 8, so I'm not a vet but I'm here to talk to if you want. I was a chewer for 23 years so I'm going thru the suck too. Might as well do it together. Stay strong and remember every day gets a little better.
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You are going thru hell right now and for that, I'm sorry. I think you're going to need more than just us nic addicts to guide you they this. I suggest getting some professional help. I think we can all feel your sadness and pain by reading your words and I believe you need it. I still stand by you and will quit with you. I'm on day 8, so I'm not a vet but I'm here to talk to if you want. I was a chewer for 23 years so I'm going thru the suck too. Might as well do it together. Stay strong and remember every day gets a little better.
That's the way! JW2 I'm glad you're quitting pot too. It will be hard, as you know. Does your group in Jan 15 know you mean "no pot" too, when you post daily? It seems like this site's methods can help you with that too if you take advantage of it. You can do this, and good to help others learn from your mistake.
New beginnings, wiped the slate clean, from good and bad- you can create whatever you want now. It will be hard, but you will also be free so it can be great with time and persistence and realy continued effort by you. I'm pulling for you.
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You are going thru hell right now and for that, I'm sorry. I think you're going to need more than just us nic addicts to guide you they this. I suggest getting some professional help. I think we can all feel your sadness and pain by reading your words and I believe you need it. I still stand by you and will quit with you. I'm on day 8, so I'm not a vet but I'm here to talk to if you want. I was a chewer for 23 years so I'm going thru the suck too. Might as well do it together. Stay strong and remember every day gets a little better.
That's the way! JW2 I'm glad you're quitting pot too. It will be hard, as you know. Does your group in Jan 15 know you mean "no pot" too, when you post daily? It seems like this site's methods can help you with that too if you take advantage of it. You can do this, and good to help others learn from your mistake.
New beginnings, wiped the slate clean, from good and bad- you can create whatever you want now. It will be hard, but you will also be free so it can be great with time and persistence and realy continued effort by you. I'm pulling for you.
salutations
Google Cross addiction- I am suspicious that you used weed to replace nicotine. I'll take my speculations further and say you were partial to more stimulating strains- sativas as opposed to indicas. nicotine and weed both work on similar brain pathways. - look into it. Your body needs time to heal without you using substances that force endorphin release. IMO.
in addition- I hate to be the dick in the room but it seems to me that your quitting for your wife not you. If your marriage wasn't on the rocks, would you still be quitting? think hard on this before you reply.
The evil of Addiction is that it puts itself first, before health, before spouse and kids, before your job, before your marriage, before death. Chained to the can or the pipe you can never really live your life fully. It is too much work to feed that monkey day in and day out not to mention hiding it from the outside world.
Last I believe one of your first posts talks about coffee, lay off the fucking coffee. Nicotine counteracts caffeine. When you quit chewing you effectively doubled your dose of caffeine if your still using the same amount. The fact that you don't know this after a year of quitting on this site is a red flag.
Pull your shit together, the most important thing you need to do today is stay quit.
My mailbox is open if you want to discuss further.......... I've been there.
sM
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I don't recall saying anything about coffee. It must have been an much earlier post. I don't drink coffee, at all. I only did in the marines when i got up at 3.
I understand your concern about my quit and doing it for my wife. And let me assure you, its not for her. It is for me. So that I can finally be the man I want to be, and be a good role model to my kids (when i have them) and so i can have a healthy relationship with my wife (even if my current wife never takes me back).
My addiction has caused me to do things i believe i normally would not do. And if i do not stop, I don't know where I'll end up.
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So, about a month or two ago, I realized I don't remember anything from before about 11 or 12. The things my brother yesterday made me understand why. I was abused. physically and emotionally. by my psychotic mother. so...there's that. don't know what to think or feel.