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Title: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 04, 2013, 10:10:00 PM
I can't believe I have found this site today. I was about to cave, as always. I have tried to quit so many times before but always failed. A day, a week, a month even. Today is day 4, and it is as miserable as it ever was. All of the adjectives are there: tired, cranky, depressed, irritable, foggy, insomnia, mad, sad, and may other things includiing HOPELESSNESS, but wait.....

then I found this site, and spent many hours here today. I shed many tears today while reading the material on this site. For the 1st time in many years I am feeling something other than HOPELESS, regarding this addiction. I cannot believe the honesty in so many of these posts. It has forced me to take an honest look at myself and at this addiction. It is helpful to see that other people know and understand the pain of my addiction and it is helpful to see that people can be successful at quitting.

Here we go, right now I still cannot think straight, I cannot see straight, I cannot picture what my future will be like without the can, I do not know who I am going to end up being. I woke up this morning saying "I cant do this", "its not worth it", "how can I do it?" At this moment I think I am seeing the answer, 1 DAY AT A TIME!! The only thing that I know FOR SURE is that 20+ years is enough. I have a wife and 4 children, I have so many reasons to quit. Thank you for this site,

Its_Got2Happen
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on January 04, 2013, 10:25:00 PM
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Evil_Won on January 04, 2013, 11:29:00 PM
Welcome. It was good meeting you in Live Chat. You're profile similar to what a lot of us feel. Just know that you are not alone in any of this. Take this one day at a time. Post roll early that you will not use nic in any way shape or form for that day. Repeat tomorrow. Posting roll is your word to us. Keep your word!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: per034 on January 04, 2013, 11:39:00 PM
Welcome Got2 - And congratulations on reclaiming your life. It is the single most important decision you will ever EVER make.

Reading your intro, there is one word you wrote that captures everything we are about here. HONESTY. We are not here to lie. We are not here to impress other people. We are here to QUIT. That is all we are here for. And the path to freedom from nicotine is honesty. We are here to listen to your challenges, be the place for you to vent, and sympathize with your plight - because we have all - ALL - been where you sit right now. EVERY DAMN ONE OF US. You will find what you need here. You will find all the tools to succeed here. If you want them.

Ultimately it comes down to honesty. From Chewy to Saints, it's all about keeping your word. The ONLY way this works is with honesty. You post your promise. You keep your word. Simple. Not easy.

Welcome to the suck. You came to the right place.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 05, 2013, 01:08:00 AM
Quote from: per034
Welcome Got2 - And congratulations on reclaiming your life. It is the single most important decision you will ever EVER make.

Reading your intro, there is one word you wrote that captures everything we are about here. HONESTY. We are not here to lie. We are not here to impress other people. We are here to QUIT. That is all we are here for. And the path to freedom from nicotine is honesty. We are here to listen to your challenges, be the place for you to vent, and sympathize with your plight - because we have all - ALL - been where you sit right now. EVERY DAMN ONE OF US. You will find what you need here. You will find all the tools to succeed here. If you want them.

Ultimately it comes down to honesty. From Chewy to Saints, it's all about keeping your word. The ONLY way this works is with honesty. You post your promise. You keep your word. Simple. Not easy.

Welcome to the suck. You came to the right place.
'clap'
That's it honesty! Post roll and have the integrity to keep your word be honest to your brothers and sisters here. I've set and cried reading some of the stories also. My first two days after finding the site I like you read for hours and was overwhelmed by the similarities I found between my addiction and others. I'm here if you need anything, others helped me through and I am happy to pay it forward!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Roamcountry on January 05, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
Nice bro! Welcome aboard!! Glad you are here. And we are here for you!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on January 05, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: per034
Welcome Got2 - And congratulations on reclaiming your life. It is the single most important decision you will ever EVER make.

Reading your intro, there is one word you wrote that captures everything we are about here. HONESTY. We are not here to lie. We are not here to impress other people.  We are here to QUIT. That is all we are here for. And the path to freedom from nicotine is honesty. We are here to listen to your challenges, be the place for you to vent, and sympathize with your plight - because we have all - ALL - been where you sit right now. EVERY DAMN ONE OF US. You will find what you need here. You will find all the tools to succeed here. If you want them.

Ultimately it comes down to honesty. From Chewy to Saints, it's all about keeping your word. The ONLY way this works is with honesty. You post your promise. You keep your word. Simple. Not easy.

Welcome to the suck. You came to the right place.
'clap'
That's it honesty! Post roll and have the integrity to keep your word be honest to your brothers and sisters here. I've set and cried reading some of the stories also. My first two days after finding the site I like you read for hours and was overwhelmed by the similarities I found between my addiction and others. I'm here if you need anything, others helped me through and I am happy to pay it forward!
BOOOOM....outstanding
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 05, 2013, 12:36:00 PM
Making a list reasons, printing the "contract" to give up and stocking up awesome quotes in my wallet. Want to share 2 fears:

1. Wife doesn't get it, wants to be there for me, but doesn't get the withdrawals, depression, anxiety, and temper. We fight, my stress level elevates, BIG TRIGGER. Don't know how to avoid it, I love her, I am married to her, I feel terrible, it is not fair to her. But this time I will not use it as a scapegoat.

2. Will I ever find joy in the things I used to love. I don't know how it happened but the can become such a huge part of all that I do and all that I am. I am so angry with myself.

Golfing, hunting, fishing, boating, yardwork, housework, painting, fixing stuff, shoveling snow, washing the car, on and on and on. I have done these things with nicotine for so long. I hope I can return to my life someday, right now I just want to sleep and withdraw.

Got2
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 05, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
This site is awesome. I should have waited a few more weeks to quit. I can do this anytime now. Oh tricky bitch, not today, not today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: epayne on January 05, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Making a list reasons, printing the "contract" to give up and stocking up awesome quotes in my wallet. Want to share 2 fears:

1. Wife doesn't get it, wants to be there for me, but doesn't get the withdrawals, depression, anxiety, and temper. We fight, my stress level elevates, BIG TRIGGER. Don't know how to avoid it, I love her, I am married to her, I feel terrible, it is not fair to her. But this time I will not use it as a scapegoat.

2. Will I ever find joy in the things I used to love. I don't know how it happened but the can become such a huge part of all that I do and all that I am. I am so angry with myself.

Golfing, hunting, fishing, boating, yardwork, housework, painting, fixing stuff, shoveling snow, washing the car, on and on and on. I have done these things with nicotine for so long. I hope I can return to my life someday, right now I just want to sleep and withdraw.

Got2
Personally, I lost interest in some of my hobbies from back when I was using. Some of them were just excuses to get out of the house and away from everybody to have a pinch. They were zone outs, but without nicotene they don't hold much appeal any more. I've come to terms with it. On the flip side, it's given me more time for the ones I do still give a shit about. This will vary greatly from quitter to quitter though. It's not something that can be predicted. You'll just have to try all those things without nicotene and see.

I made 2 lists when I was in your shoes. One was a list of things I always did with dip and I ran a line through them as I accomplished them without. The other list (the only one I'm still paying any attention to at this point) is a list of BADASS things I've done without dip that I NEVER did with it. That list is the one I'm proud of. It's growing every day, too.

My .02 on the matter. You can have your soap box back now. :lol:
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Seth on January 05, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Making a list reasons, printing the "contract" to give up and stocking up awesome quotes in my wallet. Want to share 2 fears:

1. Wife doesn't get it, wants to be there for me, but doesn't get the withdrawals, depression, anxiety, and temper. We fight, my stress level elevates, BIG TRIGGER. Don't know how to avoid it, I love her, I am married to her, I feel terrible, it is not fair to her. But this time I will not use it as a scapegoat.

2. Will I ever find joy in the things I used to love. I don't know how it happened but the can become such a huge part of all that I do and all that I am. I am so angry with myself.

Golfing, hunting, fishing, boating, yardwork, housework, painting, fixing stuff, shoveling snow, washing the car, on and on and on. I have done these things with nicotine for so long. I hope I can return to my life someday, right now I just want to sleep and withdraw.

Got2
Welcome aboard.

As for fear #1, go ahead and have your wife read this link about Spousal Support (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spouse.asp). Fortunately my wife (girlfriend at the time) was on board from day one. But I know for a fact that it has helped other quiters and their significant others.

As for fear #2, that's just addict talk. It will take some time, yes. But once you've made it to freedom, you'll find that those activities are even more enjoyable when you don't have to worry if you brought enough dip along or if there is a C-store close enough to go to if/when your tin goes dry. If you want to sleep the first few days, go ahead, but don't withdraw from the site. Read HOF speeches, hit the live chat, read other quit groups. . .engage. You have an awesome resource here of people that have been exactly where you are and know exactly what you're going through. Use it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redyota on January 05, 2013, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
This site is awesome. I should have waited a few more weeks to quit. I can do this anytime now. Oh tricky bitch, not today, not today.
Not understanding your post?

Are you quit? If so, why would a few more weeks of killing yourself have been better. If not, why isn't today the best option?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 05, 2013, 03:17:00 PM
Yes I am quit, 5 days. I am wrestling with the "junkie talk". I was simply thinking outloud Redyota. For the last 10 "quits" I let the Junkie talk and rationalization march me right back up the store for a tin. The chatter is still there, I am just choosing not to listen, not today, for today I am quit.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 05, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY FIND JOY IN THE THINGS YOU USED TO LOVE.

I had the SAME EXACT fear, as did a lot of guys on this site.

Golf, bowling, poker, fantasy football drafts, after big meals, long drives, yard work, running errands for the wife, helping people move, staying the night in a hotel alone, being home alone, etc.....all things I feared I would never enjoy again.

100% BULLSHIT. Nicotine doesn't make you enjoy that shit. It doesn't have that kind of power. Nicotine just programmed your brain to THINK it did. You CAN and WILL reprogram your brain if you follow the blueprint set forward by those before you.

Im a pussy. Flat out. But I have done EVERYTHING I listed above and still found joy in them, and a lot of times even more as eliminating the hassles of making sure I have a can, a spitter, pissing people off golfing as I leave black shit marks all over the beautiful course, or the scowl I used to get from my bowling buddies as I started finger banging a can. Not to mention above all hiding all the "evidence" from my wife.

Dip made me a coward, a liar, a bad husband, a bad father, and was killing me at the same time.

You weren't born with a turd in your mouth and millions of people do the things you mentioned dip free and love it. So can you. It wont be easy at first but it can be done. My pussy ass is living proof.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 05, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
Try to keep everything in one intro. I see you have two going. Fuck the junkie talk. Listen to US. We are here to help and have been through the battles. You got this man. Im quit with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on January 05, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
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1. Wife doesn't get it, wants to be there for me, but doesn't get the withdrawals, depression, anxiety, and temper. We fight, my stress level elevates, BIG TRIGGER. Don't know how to avoid it, I love her, I am married to her, I feel terrible, it is not fair to her. But this time I will not use it as a scapegoat.
This is why you have to do this for you and you alone. If you quit for her, the first time you get pissed at her you'll relapse. Bring the rage to the site. Post up in your group, vent. Use us NOT her. Trust me.
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2. Will I ever find joy in the things I used to love. I don't know how it happened but the can become such a huge part of all that I do and all that I am. I am so angry with myself.
Yes. And actually you'll find you enjoy them more without being tethered to that little round fuck bucket.
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Golfing, hunting, fishing, boating, yardwork, housework, painting, fixing stuff, shoveling snow, washing the car, on and on and on. I have done these things with nicotine for so long. I hope I can return to my life someday, right now I just want to sleep and withdraw.
Don't hope. Hope is retarded. Plenty of people do that stuff without a wad of cancerous weed stuffed in their mouth. Each one is a trigger, you'll conquer them one at a time. Every time you beat a crave you get stronger and that particular trigger gets weaker. The trick is to acknowledge the crave, remind yourself you made the decision to quit, take a deep breath, and go on about your life.

carry on

sm
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: RAZD611 on January 05, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Hope is retarded.
I thought Hope was a fat hippopottomus.....

Got2... I have done everyone of those things you listed and then some (except golf, it is for people that cant hit a moving baseball), and I promise they are all much better and more memorable on the quit side of the fence. It will take a while, but you will learn to appreciate and enjoy your new found freedom.

Hang in there and fight. It is worth it!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 05wrxing on January 05, 2013, 10:42:00 PM
Just like razd and skoal monster said, it will get better. We were all just like you at one point so we understand how you feel. I was always worried and wondering when I would feel normal again. With every craving and trigger that you beat the stronger your quit become's. The day will come when you barely even think about that evil can. You just have to stay strong and bring the rage to the site, we can take it. My wife never understood my addiction either and, when I would be having withdrawls and bad crave's all she could muster up was, Why cant you just forget about it? Well, I would tell her that it was easier said than done. Then on the site I would go and then, I would read and really wear out the wild card post's and hour's would pass by before I ever thought of that nasty ass little can again. Just remember that you can alway's lean on us and all of your quit brother's. I quit with you today. If you ever need anything just pm me.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 06, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
I thought this was supposed to get easier at some point. I cannot think straight, I cannot sleep. There is no way I can function at work in this condition. I have to get some gum or something today. I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey. If this is a "cave" so be it. But I am off the can, forever. I just need a little help here, I am trying to be realistic and I am trying to be successful. I guess I can post roll today, right??

I learned alot from you guys. Thank you.


Never again for any reason.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: GR8WHITEBUFFALO on January 06, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
Nicotine gum is not the answer. Grow some fucking balls and fight. It will get better. You will just be addicted to the gum until you realize how expensive it is then rationalize your way back to a tin. Don't go down that path. You have started the hard work, keep it up.

'bang head'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 05wrxing on January 06, 2013, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I thought this was supposed to get easier at some point. I cannot think straight, I cannot sleep. There is no way I can function at work in this condition. I have to get some gum or something today. I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey. If this is a "cave" so be it. But I am off the can, forever. I just need a little help here, I am trying to be realistic and I am trying to be successful. I guess I can post roll today, right??

I learned alot from you guys. Thank you.


Never again for any reason.
Nicotine gum is a cave and all it will do is lead you back to the can. Stay strong and you will make it through this. It does get better,so much better. Just go buy yourself some sunflower seed's, candy or some fake chew but, you dont want nicotine gum. The nicotine is what got all of us addicted to that evil can in the first place.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on January 06, 2013, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: 05wrxing
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I thought this was supposed to get easier at some point.  I cannot think straight, I cannot sleep.  There is no way I can function at work in this condition.  I have to get some gum or something today.  I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey.  If this is a "cave" so be it.  But I am off the can, forever.  I just need a little help here, I am trying to be realistic and I am trying to be successful.  I guess I can post roll today, right??

I learned alot from you guys.  Thank you.


Never again for any reason.
Nicotine gum is a cave and all it will do is lead you back to the can. Stay strong and you will make it through this. It does get better,so much better. Just go buy yourself some sunflower seed's, candy or some fake chew but, you dont want nicotine gum. The nicotine is what got all of us addicted to that evil can in the first place.
Your spelling looks fine.

It looks like you made it to your computer, turned it on, logged on here, found your intro, clicked "Add reply", and wrote out your thoughts...

What can't you do again?

(Or is it that you don't want to do this?)

How many days have you used?

How many days have you not?

It sucks for a few days, but it is a small price to pay for all the good after it. And, the funny thing is that you should be starting the upswing pretty much today. There will be good times. There will be bad times.

You don't need nicotine. You just think you do.

What can you do?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on January 06, 2013, 10:05:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I thought this was supposed to get easier at some point. I cannot think straight, I cannot sleep. There is no way I can function at work in this condition. I have to get some gum or something today. I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey. If this is a "cave" so be it. But I am off the can, forever. I just need a little help here, I am trying to be realistic and I am trying to be successful. I guess I can post roll today, right??

I learned alot from you guys. Thank you.


Never again for any reason.
I call bullshit!!

Your not the biggest addict here.

It isn't harder for you than it was for me, or diesel, or anybody else

Your not a delicate and special butterfly

I was 2 cans a day for 20 plus years, if I could do it so can you. The truth is you don't want to quit.
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I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey.
no, your stupid to go back to something that is so toxic it disrupts your thinking , sleep patterns, and ability to feel good. Get a fucking grip dumb dumb.

Your past the hardest part, it does get easier believe me. But if you thought you could spend years poisoning yourself with a neurotoxin and be all better after a few days of quit? Then yes stupid. Your solution to go back to the substance that is making you feel shitty? Stupid

I suggest you get mad. I suggest you start reading the resources here so you understand what your dealing with. I suggest you stay quit. Cold.

More than 90% of successful longterm quits are cold turkey. Using nicotine to quit using nicotine just doesn't work.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on January 06, 2013, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I thought this was supposed to get easier at some point.  I cannot think straight, I cannot sleep.  There is no way I can function at work in this condition.  I have to get some gum or something today.  I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey.  If this is a "cave" so be it.  But I am off the can, forever.  I just need a little help here, I am trying to be realistic and I am trying to be successful.  I guess I can post roll today, right??

I learned alot from you guys.  Thank you.


Never again for any reason.
I call bullshit!!

Your not the biggest addict here.

It isn't harder for you than it was for me, or diesel, or anybody else

Your not a delicate and special butterfly

I was 2 cans a day for 20 plus years, if I could do it so can you. The truth is you don't want to quit.
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I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey.
no, your stupid to go back to something that is so toxic it disrupts your thinking , sleep patterns, and ability to feel good. Get a fucking grip dumb dumb.

Your past the hardest part, it does get easier believe me. But if you thought you could spend years poisoning yourself with a neurotoxin and be all better after a few days of quit? Then yes stupid. Your solution to go back to the substance that is making you feel shitty? Stupid

I suggest you get mad. I suggest you start reading the resources here so you understand what your dealing with. I suggest you stay quit. Cold.

More than 90% of successful longterm quits are cold turkey. Using nicotine to quit using nicotine just doesn't work.
And, according to Nicorette, their product is not to be used to quit chewing tobacco. It offers no help. Look at the product's FAQ's before you use.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: epayne on January 06, 2013, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I thought this was supposed to get easier at some point.  I cannot think straight, I cannot sleep.  There is no way I can function at work in this condition.  I have to get some gum or something today.  I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey.  If this is a "cave" so be it.  But I am off the can, forever.  I just need a little help here, I am trying to be realistic and I am trying to be successful.  I guess I can post roll today, right??

I learned alot from you guys.  Thank you.


Never again for any reason.
I call bullshit!!

Your not the biggest addict here.

It isn't harder for you than it was for me, or diesel, or anybody else

Your not a delicate and special butterfly

I was 2 cans a day for 20 plus years, if I could do it so can you. The truth is you don't want to quit.
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I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey.
no, your stupid to go back to something that is so toxic it disrupts your thinking , sleep patterns, and ability to feel good. Get a fucking grip dumb dumb.

Your past the hardest part, it does get easier believe me. But if you thought you could spend years poisoning yourself with a neurotoxin and be all better after a few days of quit? Then yes stupid. Your solution to go back to the substance that is making you feel shitty? Stupid

I suggest you get mad. I suggest you start reading the resources here so you understand what your dealing with. I suggest you stay quit. Cold.

More than 90% of successful longterm quits are cold turkey. Using nicotine to quit using nicotine just doesn't work.
And, according to Nicorette, their product is not to be used to quit chewing tobacco. It offers no help. Look at the product's FAQ's before you use.
NRT is for Bitches and Sallies.

Real men just give their balls a tug to remember how big they are and how low they hang, and push through the suck. Embrace it. You can't think? You can't sleep? Go exercise until you can't move. Channel all that energy into something else.

Or you can chew that ghey gum like a pussy and whine about how bad your fucking addiction is. You make me sick.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 06, 2013, 10:43:00 AM
wow
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 06, 2013, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
wow
I hope wow means you see others have done it! The help you need is talking to someone that is or has gone through the same thing. Couple times I sat and cried like a baby not wanting to deal with the pain. But so many of my July BOQ and other seasoned quitters talked me through the suck! Pm me or someone else.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Roamcountry on January 06, 2013, 11:07:00 AM
Quote from: epayne
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I thought this was supposed to get easier at some point.  I cannot think straight, I cannot sleep.  There is no way I can function at work in this condition.  I have to get some gum or something today.  I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey.  If this is a "cave" so be it.  But I am off the can, forever.  I just need a little help here, I am trying to be realistic and I am trying to be successful.  I guess I can post roll today, right??

I learned alot from you guys.  Thank you.


Never again for any reason.
I call bullshit!!

Your not the biggest addict here.

It isn't harder for you than it was for me, or diesel, or anybody else

Your not a delicate and special butterfly

I was 2 cans a day for 20 plus years, if I could do it so can you. The truth is you don't want to quit.
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I was pretty stupid to think a 1-2 can\day addiction could be stopped cold turkey.
no, your stupid to go back to something that is so toxic it disrupts your thinking , sleep patterns, and ability to feel good. Get a fucking grip dumb dumb.

Your past the hardest part, it does get easier believe me. But if you thought you could spend years poisoning yourself with a neurotoxin and be all better after a few days of quit? Then yes stupid. Your solution to go back to the substance that is making you feel shitty? Stupid

I suggest you get mad. I suggest you start reading the resources here so you understand what your dealing with. I suggest you stay quit. Cold.

More than 90% of successful longterm quits are cold turkey. Using nicotine to quit using nicotine just doesn't work.
And, according to Nicorette, their product is not to be used to quit chewing tobacco. It offers no help. Look at the product's FAQ's before you use.
NRT is for Bitches and Sallies.

Real men just give their balls a tug to remember how big they are and how low they hang, and push through the suck. Embrace it. You can't think? You can't sleep? Go exercise until you can't move. Channel all that energy into something else.

Or you can chew that ghey gum like a pussy and whine about how bad your fucking addiction is. You make me sick.
You should listen to skoalmonster here, he is very knowledgeable with the chemical effects of nicotine and the brain. Just read around the site and see. I did a can and a half a day for 25 yrs. i quit cold turkey. You are not special. And you need some help? Well why would you look to ms nic bitch for that? I guess you dont need us then. If you do, then spit that shit out, get bubble gum drink water till its oozing out your pores and in a few days i gauruntee you will start to feel better. Start is the key word there. It takes time to readjust, but the freedom is worth it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on January 06, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
wow
?

Is that a good wow or a bad wow?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbuilder7916 on January 06, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
http://blog.killthecan.org/2010/03/what ... -you-need/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2010/03/what-more-proof-do-you-need/)


Watch this video and tell me if you still want a chew?KTC Blog (http://blog.killthecan.org/2010/03/what-more-proof-do-you-need/)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on January 06, 2013, 11:13:00 AM
C'mon man! Get your head on straight!

Hell no you can't fix that much stupid in a few days. Don't even worry about it.

One thing I can promise you.....you will NEVER fix this if you keep reintroducing nicotine into your system.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 06, 2013, 11:14:00 AM
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual?? I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days. Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help. I am not coping well at all. I will seek some professional help tomorrow. I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much. I have to talk to a doctor or something. I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer. So many triggers I am losing my mind. If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see.

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do. No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it. Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say. Gotta go post roll. Later.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on January 06, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
I see you down there. I hope you are paying attention. Nicorette will not give you this kind of support.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on January 06, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual?? I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days. Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help. I am not coping well at all. I will seek some professional help tomorrow. I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much. I have to talk to a doctor or something. I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer. So many triggers I am losing my mind. If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see.

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do. No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it. Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say. Gotta go post roll. Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on January 06, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: redtrain14
I see you down there. I hope you are paying attention. Nicorette will not give you this kind of support.
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8.Can I use Nicorette stop smoking products to help quit chewing tobacco, smoking cigars or using a pipe?

No, the Food  Drug Administration (FDA) has approved the use of Nicorette only as Therapeutic Nicotine for cigarette smoking. Talk with your doctor to find a product that is right for your circumstance. Back to top
Think about it.

I stuff something with nicotine into my lip. So, to stop doing this, I am going to stuff something with nicotine into my lip.

If you have gum or if you have smoked or if you have used any form of nicotine, please do not post roll. We only post roll when we are nicotine free.

And I see your roll post does not include a number and says "no dip for me". We need a number, and I need you to state that you did not give in since your last roll post.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on January 06, 2013, 11:24:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual?? I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days. Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help. I am not coping well at all. I will seek some professional help tomorrow. I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much. I have to talk to a doctor or something. I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer. So many triggers I am losing my mind. If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see.

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do. No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it. Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say. Gotta go post roll. Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless your doctor is a former user, he don't shit about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: epayne on January 06, 2013, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
If you want to PM someone, you click their screen name. When their profile page loads, on the right side it says,"Personal Message | click here". Click there. Type your words. Hit send. That's all there is to it.

PM me or ANYBODY ELSE. Or log into live chat. Any one of us would be willing to help. We'll talk about baseball or pussy or engineering or whatever for as long as it takes for you to get through your crave. We'll give advice where it's needed. We're here for you. The nic bitch is not.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Roamcountry on January 06, 2013, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: epayne
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
If you want to PM someone, you click their screen name. When their profile page loads, on the right side it says,"Personal Message | click here". Click there. Type your words. Hit send. That's all there is to it.

PM me or ANYBODY ELSE. Or log into live chat. Any one of us would be willing to help. We'll talk about baseball or pussy or engineering or whatever for as long as it takes for you to get through your crave. We'll give advice where it's needed. We're here for you. The nic bitch is not.
You got my number bro....use it....dont hesitate
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 05wrxing on January 06, 2013, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless your doctor is a former user, he don't shit about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
I saw your roll post and congrat's. Now just listen to what the guy's are all telling you and keep the promise you made to yourself and the April group. Do not use any form of nicotine. I quit with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on January 06, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
index.php?showtopic=4525 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4525)

Read this.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Kubrick on January 06, 2013, 02:25:00 PM
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Day 1 – 3/24/2012
So I’m about 15 hours with no nicotine/tobacco. It kind of sucks right now, I can feel the craving knawing at me, begging me for some relief. But I won’t give in. I’m writing this stuff down so I can remember what I was going through during this time, so 30 days, 60 days or even years later when I get an itch to put a chew in my lip, I can look back and know what I was feeling and going through at the time.  Right now I feel ok I guess. The craving is strong, my mind is a bit “foggy”, but not as bad as it was a few  hours ago. The coffe dips really help, but will probably make me stay up all damn night. We’ll see I guess.

Day 2 – 3/25/2012
Sucked hard. So many cravings today. I chewed a shitload of coffee grounds and some gum. At night, since I’m on call, some work I had scheduled that should have only taken about an hour turned into an 8 hour fiasco. I did not cave.  I thought about it a couple of times, but did not give in.

Day 3 – 3/26/2012
Supposedly, the nicotine might be fully out of my system today. Who knows. I still instinctivley reach for my can, which then causes the trigger/lipquiver, etc that I want a chew. I wonÂ’t give in to that shit. You wonÂ’t control me any more you stupid fucking plant. IÂ’m on a conference call, which used to be prime dipping time, but you wonÂ’t get any.

Day 4 – 3/27/2012
  Worst day so far. I was beat last night and went to bed at 8:30. I then proceeded to sleep for 11 hours. Still was groggy when I woke up. Feel almost like I have mono. But my throat isn’t that sore. When I had mono many years ago, I remember having the worst sore throat of my life. I’m not sure if all this is just nicotine withdrawl or if I’m also working on a cold/flu at the same time, but I feel like complete dogshit today. Not to mention the craving is awful today. Thank god I barely have any energy so actually headign to the store to buy a can would require me to move.

Day 5 – 3/28/2012
    Feel a lot better today, but the craving for a chew is really bad today. Not sure why, but it might be the strongest craving I have had yet. Chew on that tea and coffee and make it through.
That's my journal from my first 5 days quit. I thought I was going to die, but I'm still here 289 days later nicotine free.

If my addict ass can get through it then so can yours. Suck it up. It will get better, I promise. You are not any more addicted than me or anyone else here. Your addiction is not special. If you follow the plan on this site, you will kick that crap to the curb. Thousands of us here are proof of that.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 06, 2013, 03:00:00 PM
Kubrick, thanks man. Great idea. I need to start journaling too. Thanks to everyone for the positive encouragement.

Hey wastepanel, day 6 man. Sorry for the omission. No dip, no NRT, no nothing, just 100% bad ass, (although I feel like anything but).

This is only possible because of the commitment I made a few days ago and this amazing KTC forum. What a brotherhood, I am very fortunate to have found it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: cdaniels on January 06, 2013, 05:08:00 PM
hi i am cdaniels. and i see you. i can feel in my stomach all pain you are feeling. If you hang in there and soak in all the bad ass men and woman say here it is possible. there is so much quit here it could make a nuke explosion look like a fart in the wind. i would love to be a part of your quit. pm me if you need an extra number. it does get better. hour by hour day by day. you got this.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on January 06, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
Ryan, you have exactly one thing to do today. That's to stay quit. Nothing else matters.

Keep your blood sugar up and level. Sipping on sweet juice like pineapple will help reduce craves.

Take a walk, even if it is just around the block. Exercise is a crave killer.

Get some fake dip. I used Oregon mint, a lot of guys use hooch, or smokey Mtn.

Cut your caffeine WAY back. Nicotine counteracts caffeine . If your drinking the same amount as pre quit you'll be a mess.

Talk with your family doctor If you need to. I used anti anxiety meds in the beginning, so did many others. Do what ever you need to do to keep that shit out of your mouth. Put a box full of thumbtacks down your shorts and jump on a trampoline with a live badger on your head if it helps.

If you were diagnosed with cancer , what would you do to save your life? Anything? Everything?

Your saving your life, fight with every weapon at your disposal, do whatever it takes to win. This is no game. You got this

Sm
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 06, 2013, 07:38:00 PM
This day started as badly as day 2-5. But somehow at the end of it, day 6, I am feeling pretty damn good. I think I am feeling good because I know this quit is different than the dozens of "quits" that came before. I could give you 100 reasons why this quit is different but here are 2.

1. I found a lifeline.

I am not alone. On day 1 and 2, I cried out for it, and knew I needed help and support. On day 3, I stumbled upon it. Thank God for KTC. For the 1st time in many, many years I have hope. WAIT, hold that thought, hope is not the right word. For the first time in many years, I FEEL CAPABLE!! Wow, what a feeling, I CAN do this, I WILL do this. Which brings me to reason #2.

2. The door is shut.

Just like that. It is done, it has been decided, do or die. I never thought of it that way until I starting reading on this site. So many little clichés but they all say the same thing. "do or not do, there is no try", Yoda. I love it, it is simple but profound. This is my quit, only I can fuck it up. I used to blame my triggers when I failed. This time failure is NOT an option. "Do something else". "never again, not for any reason", "this is life or death".

Now I do realize that it is far simpler in the "saying" than it is the "doing. But I am on my way. Now I just need to get in here everyday, and reaffirm the quit. Thank you to all who helped me the last few days. You are all a bunch of bad asses in my book. Ryan (Got2Happen).
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 06, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Look man. NOBODY challenges me for biggest pussy ktc has ever seen. I was such a pussy I left the site. I didn't believe these guys when they told me "things would get better".

Here is exactly what I used to think..."fuck you, my quit is different. I'm that one in a million guy who cant quit. Fuck all these weirdo liars. I'm different. Fuck you, you, you and you". I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, didn't want to be around my wife, my kids, my friends, nothing. All I wanted was to feel "normal" again. Why I didn't go back to the can, I have no fucking clue. All I knew was this site wasn't for me and it scared the shit out of me.

So i left the site and went to my Dr. and got some help with anxiety meds and I started seeing a shrink. Thought I was doing pretty damn good but then I drifted...not back to the can but back to ktc.

As much as a shrink or Dr. might help, NOBODY knows the struggles of quitting chew better than guys who have done it. Not a Doctor, not a shrink, not Albert fucking Einstein.

So I apologized to everyone for leaving, they took me back, I remained a pussy until about day 70 constantly asking "when this" and "when that" then finally my balls came in when I realized I was living my life dip free and doing all the old things I used to do and WAS STILL ENJOYING THEM. EVERYONE WAS RIGHT. THINGS GOT BETTER. I WAS WRONG AS USUAL.

They will for you too. I chewed 2 cans of kodiak a day and went cold turkey, so can you. You just got to stick with it. Go to your doctor if you want, who gives a fuck, that's not cheating. Fuck nic gum though...thats not gonna do shit but keep you hooked on nic.

I believe in you man...and so does everyone else on this site. I'm sorry this is so long but you remind me so much of ME. If a pussy like me can do it, anybody can. We're here for you man. Use us. The freedom you will feel is beyond beliefe. I wouldn't lie to you man. You will do this.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 07, 2013, 12:30:00 AM
Listen to diesel!! If anyone doubts their ability to quit read his intro from the beginning! His quit gives me strength, I didn't have near the struggle he did. I know from the beginning he said he was a pussy but I will refute that I've seen a hell of a lot of lame weak asses cave under far less stress than he endured!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on January 07, 2013, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Listen to diesel!! If anyone doubts their ability to quit read his intro from the beginning! His quit gives me strength, I didn't have near the struggle he did. I know from the beginning he said he was a pussy but I will refute that I've seen a hell of a lot of lame weak asses cave under far less stress than he endured!
both these men helped my quit. (tremendously) made it into the quit monster it is. take it one day at a time. do everything in your power to be free today, and you'll benefit tomorrow. post, read, exercise, repeat. before long you'll feel as good as we do. pm if you need help.. quit=peace
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 07, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
There are some bad ass quitters on here today. I am excited to be one of them. I got a dose of reality today on the way to work though. I was happy to feel better last night, I felt so good I could have written HOF, hell no, long way to go, felt like day 2 again, cried like a baby all the way to work. Can't drink coffee anymore either. I hate this nasty addiction. Fuck the nic bitch and fuck the millionaire industry.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on January 07, 2013, 12:47:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
There are some bad ass quitters on here today. I am excited to be one of them. I got a dose of reality today on the way to work though. I was happy to feel better last night, I felt so good I could have written HOF, hell no, long way to go, felt like day 2 again, cried like a baby all the way to work. Can't drink coffee anymore either. I hate this nasty addiction. Duck the nic birch and duck the millionaire industry.

Gotta love spell check, funny, I will take laugh.
'crackup'

Seriously, though...

What can't you do when you put your mind to it?

You can do this because we are.

I'm very proud of you man.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 07, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
I am fucking spent. 12 hour workday on minimal sleep, thought about1 hours of it. My eye lids are twitching so bad I can't stand it and I have nearly chewed a gash in my lower lip from biting on it all day. What a fucking junkie. Uuuhhggg!!!

Here is the best part....... I know for certain that packing a fat chew right now would NOT help me one little bit. It would not SOLVE the problem, IT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

Stay the course friends, This is about life and death!!!

Got 2
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 07, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am fucking spent. 12 hour workday on minimal sleep, thought about1 hours of it. My eye lids are twitching so bad I can't stand it and I have nearly chewed a gash in my lower lip from biting on it all day. What a fucking junkie. Uuuhhggg!!!

Here is the best part....... I know for certain that packing a fat chew right now would NOT help me one little bit. It would not SOLVE the problem, IT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

Stay the course friends, This is about life and death!!!

Got 2
Ive been there. It fucking sucks. BUT you HAVE to make it through. I PROMISE it will get better. Each time you make it to and from work without a chew...its a little victory. Every crave you beat, every roll you post, every task you complete without a mouthful of cancerous shit is a small victory.

Eventually those little victories add up and your confidence grows. THAT'S. when your quit will take off. Its gonna be awhile yet as your in the heat of the battle right now, but I swear to you its all worth it. Quit on my friend!!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 07, 2013, 11:29:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am fucking spent. 12 hour workday on minimal sleep, thought about1 hours of it. My eye lids are twitching so bad I can't stand it and I have nearly chewed a gash in my lower lip from biting on it all day. What a fucking junkie. Uuuhhggg!!! 

Here is the best part....... I know for certain that packing a fat chew right now would NOT help me one little bit. It would not SOLVE the problem, IT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

Stay the course friends, This is about life and death!!!

Got 2
Ive been there. It fucking sucks. BUT you HAVE to make it through. I PROMISE it will get better. Each time you make it to and from work without a chew...its a little victory. Every crave you beat, every roll you post, every task you complete without a mouthful of cancerous shit is a small victory.

Eventually those little victories add up and your confidence grows. THAT'S. when your quit will take off. Its gonna be awhile yet as your in the heat of the battle right now, but I swear to you its all worth it. Quit on my friend!!!!!
I love when a man grins when he fights.

- W. Churchill
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Roamcountry on January 08, 2013, 02:21:00 AM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am fucking spent. 12 hour workday on minimal sleep, thought about1 hours of it. My eye lids are twitching so bad I can't stand it and I have nearly chewed a gash in my lower lip from biting on it all day. What a fucking junkie. Uuuhhggg!!! 

Here is the best part....... I know for certain that packing a fat chew right now would NOT help me one little bit. It would not SOLVE the problem, IT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

Stay the course friends, This is about life and death!!!

Got 2
Ive been there. It fucking sucks. BUT you HAVE to make it through. I PROMISE it will get better. Each time you make it to and from work without a chew...its a little victory. Every crave you beat, every roll you post, every task you complete without a mouthful of cancerous shit is a small victory.

Eventually those little victories add up and your confidence grows. THAT'S. when your quit will take off. Its gonna be awhile yet as your in the heat of the battle right now, but I swear to you its all worth it. Quit on my friend!!!!!
I love when a man grins when he fights.

- W. Churchill
Way to win it bro! It sucks now but it gets better. Just ask WT, he chewed his tongue so bad he could hardly talk it was so swollen! Keep on keeping on man.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on January 08, 2013, 09:08:00 AM
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am fucking spent. 12 hour workday on minimal sleep, thought about1 hours of it. My eye lids are twitching so bad I can't stand it and I have nearly chewed a gash in my lower lip from biting on it all day. What a fucking junkie. Uuuhhggg!!! 

Here is the best part....... I know for certain that packing a fat chew right now would NOT help me one little bit. It would not SOLVE the problem, IT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

Stay the course friends, This is about life and death!!!

Got 2
Ive been there. It fucking sucks. BUT you HAVE to make it through. I PROMISE it will get better. Each time you make it to and from work without a chew...its a little victory. Every crave you beat, every roll you post, every task you complete without a mouthful of cancerous shit is a small victory.

Eventually those little victories add up and your confidence grows. THAT'S. when your quit will take off. Its gonna be awhile yet as your in the heat of the battle right now, but I swear to you its all worth it. Quit on my friend!!!!!
I love when a man grins when he fights.

- W. Churchill
Way to win it bro! It sucks now but it gets better. Just ask WT, he chewed his tongue so bad he could hardly talk it was so swollen! Keep on keeping on man.
each day is a brick in the wall.. the wall will get bigger and the bitch won't be able to get over.. pretty soon she'll just go home for good...effin bitch not welcome. one day at a time and soon you'll be whistling zipity do da zipity hey my oh my what... sorry got carried away :blink:
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 08, 2013, 09:35:00 PM
Not sure where this barrage of negative thoughts has come from during the last 2-3 hours of my day but I can't take it anymore. I am gonna talk myself right into a sissy cave if I don't knock it off. This quitting is turn me into a damn schizophrenic. One minute I think I had a great day the next minute I can fucking see straight.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on January 08, 2013, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not sure where this barrage of negative thoughts has come from during the last 2-3 hours of my day but I can't take it anymore.  I am gonna talk myself right into a sissy cave if I don't knock it off.  This quitting is turn me into a damn schizophrenic.  One minute I think I had a great day the next minute I can fucking see straight.
jump into the live chat or get on that phone to your new brothers.

and worst come to worst, tell someone you are near to kick you as hard as they can in your balls. that will kill any craves you can think of.

**and welcome to the world of quit where you will find that things come at you in waves where as you say one moment is fine and the next is a whirlwind. just stay an even keel, stay the course and fight through it. just like you know you can deep down inside yourself
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 08, 2013, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not sure where this barrage of negative thoughts has come from during the last 2-3 hours of my day but I can't take it anymore. I am gonna talk myself right into a sissy cave if I don't knock it off. This quitting is turn me into a damn schizophrenic. One minute I think I had a great day the next minute I can fucking see straight.
Get the illusion out of your head that if you do cave, your gonna SPRING back to life like popeye eating a can of spinich. I never caved but Ive talked talked to a guy who did and it doesn't work that way. You just have to grind it out. Start writting a journal or a fucking story or go beat off, or do 100 butlers, sick on some fire balls wrapped in cinnamon gum. ANYTHING to keep that shit out your lip. YOU GOT THIS!!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on January 09, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not sure where this barrage of negative thoughts has come from during the last 2-3 hours of my day but I can't take it anymore.  I am gonna talk myself right into a sissy cave if I don't knock it off.  This quitting is turn me into a damn schizophrenic.  One minute I think I had a great day the next minute I can fucking see straight.
Get the illusion out of your head that if you do cave, your gonna SPRING back to life like popeye eating a can of spinich. I never caved but Ive talked talked to a guy who did and it doesn't work that way. You just have to grind it out. Start writting a journal or a fucking story or go beat off, or do 100 butlers, sick on some fire balls wrapped in cinnamon gum. ANYTHING to keep that shit out your lip. YOU GOT THIS!!!!!
what diesel said.. get through the day no matter what! put anything in your mouth keep you busy.. exercise! I exercised 2 hours a day when I felt down. It ALWAYS helped. It'll clear your mind. string a few day's together and you'll feel like a champ. remember that crappy feeling ALWAYS go's away. you WILL feel better. quit with you...peace
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 09, 2013, 04:13:00 PM
These responses rock. Gotta love laughing in the middle of the work day. I am just cruising along today, too busy to think about the beast. I do feel sorry for my co-workers though. Damn have a bad temper and very short fuse. Super irritable. My tolerance for bullshit is pretty much zero. Feel like pulverizing the heavy bag tonight. Peace everyone, keep on quitting. It is tough, but I am sure a tongue ectomy or lower jaw resection isn't a cakewalk either.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: boomtho on January 09, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
These responses rock. Gotta love laughing in the middle of the work day. I am just cruising along today, too busy to think about the beast. I do feel sorry for my co-workers though. Damn have a bad temper and very short fuse. Super irritable. My tolerance for bullshit is pretty much zero. Feel like pulverizing the heavy bag tonight. Peace everyone, keep on quitting. It is tough, but I am sure a tongue ectomy or lower jaw resection isn't a cakewalk either.
got 2, we're missing you on the roll sheet. Might have been a bump or just a slip of mind but it's never too late in the day to get on the sheet. See you in the April thread brother.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 09, 2013, 08:30:00 PM
check again man, I am all over that roll sheet. 5:30 this morning I posted. Thanks for checking in on me. I will try to post again.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: boomtho on January 09, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
check again man, I am all over that roll sheet. 5:30 this morning I posted. Thanks for checking in on me. I will try to post again.
my bad, glad to hear it. I was looking for your screen name but I see Got 2 Happen right up at the top. 5:30 AM is gangster.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 10, 2013, 08:29:00 PM
I think a lot of people are full of shit with all these feel good posts. Can the power of positive thinking and positive talk really get us out of this fucking hole we have dug so deep. I want to dip so bad right now I cant stand it. The mental aspect is every damn bit as hard as that physical withdrawal was. I was practiced at that part, 100 times over. It hurts but at least it has an end. Seems like there is no end to this nightmare. I just want to feel normal again. Cant think beyond today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 10, 2013, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I think a lot of people are full of shit with all these feel good posts.  Can the power of positive thinking and positive talk really get us out of this fucking hole we have dug so deep.  I want to dip so bad right now I cant stand it.  The mental aspect is every damn bit as hard as that physical withdrawal was.  I was practiced at that part, 100 times over.  It hurts but at least it has an end.  Seems like there is no end to this nightmare.  I just want to feel normal again.  Cant think beyond today.
This post is a fucking kick ass post. I am sure we have all felt like this. Hell I have had days where I wanted to be positive but I wasn't.

Bro, more than ever, get pissed at the nic bitch and embrace the shit, suck and negative feelings. Fucking ask for more! Hate nicotine so much that you want more pain and suck.

You want to feel positive. Not today under any circumstance do you cave. Fight, Fight , Fight. Don't worry about tomorrows match, only today. Grit up and scream but never, never, never surrender. Not today!

Survive today and repeat tomorrow. Soon you will smile because freedom is happiness. You will feel better and smile!

No I don't think you can will positive energy out of your negative ass. You have to work and earn your way out of it.

I fucking hat nicotine and YOU SHOULD TOO!!!!

Hate her, don't glamorize her. And If I spent all this time to get you to give a little more effort than you think you have right now.....and you go hump a can of lies, evil, murdering slave driving weed. FUCK YOU.

If you are in this to win it...check your PM. I am so fired up right now. Call me and let me knock the nic bitch out and then I'll hand you the knife to stab her in the neck.

There is no glamour in dipping. Don't let here deceive you not today.

Check your PM. My phone number is there. Call me, I'm ready. You don't know how strong you are yet. Just survive and you soon will.

Don't think past today. That is dangerous. Only worry, think and focus on today!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 10, 2013, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I think a lot of people are full of shit with all these feel good posts.  Can the power of positive thinking and positive talk really get us out of this fucking hole we have dug so deep.  I want to dip so bad right now I cant stand it.  The mental aspect is every damn bit as hard as that physical withdrawal was.  I was practiced at that part, 100 times over.  It hurts but at least it has an end.  Seems like there is no end to this nightmare.  I just want to feel normal again.  Cant think beyond today.
This post is a fucking kick ass post. I am sure we have all felt like this. Hell I have had days where I wanted to be positive but I wasn't.

Bro, more than ever, get pissed at the nic bitch and embrace the shit, suck and negative feelings. Fucking ask for more! Hate nicotine so much that you want more pain and suck.

You want to feel positive. Not today under any circumstance do you cave. Fight, Fight , Fight. Don't worry about tomorrows match, only today. Grit up and scream but never, never, never surrender. Not today!

Survive today and repeat tomorrow. Soon you will smile because freedom is happiness. You will feel better and smile!

No I don't think you can will positive energy out of your negative ass. You have to work and earn your way out of it.

I fucking hat nicotine and YOU SHOULD TOO!!!!

Hate her, don't glamorize her. And If I spent all this time to get you to give a little more effort than you think you have right now.....and you go hump a can of lies, evil, murdering slave driving weed. FUCK YOU.

If you are in this to win it...check your PM. I am so fired up right now. Call me and let me knock the nic bitch out and then I'll hand you the knife to stab her in the neck.

There is no glamour in dipping. Don't let here deceive you not today.

Check your PM. My phone number is there. Call me, I'm ready. You don't know how strong you are yet. Just survive and you soon will.

Don't think past today. That is dangerous. Only worry, think and focus on today!
I still have those days occasionally and Mt is who I call for a swift kick in the nuts!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: neverShouldaStarted on January 10, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I can't believe I have found this site today. I was about to cave, as always. I have tried to quit so many times before but always failed. A day, a week, a month even. Today is day 4, and it is as miserable as it ever was. All of the adjectives are there: tired, cranky, depressed, irritable, foggy, insomnia, mad, sad, and may other things includiing HOPELESSNESS, but wait.....

then I found this site, and spent many hours here today. I shed many tears today while reading the material on this site. For the 1st time in many years I am feeling something other than HOPELESS, regarding this addiction. I cannot believe the honesty in so many of these posts. It has forced me to take an honest look at myself and at this addiction. It is helpful to see that other people know and understand the pain of my addiction and it is helpful to see that people can be successful at quitting.

Here we go, right now I still cannot think straight, I cannot see straight, I cannot picture what my future will be like without the can, I do not know who I am going to end up being. I woke up this morning saying "I cant do this", "its not worth it", "how can I do it?" At this moment I think I am seeing the answer, 1 DAY AT A TIME!! The only thing that I know FOR SURE is that 20+ years is enough. I have a wife and 4 children, I have so many reasons to quit. Thank you for this site,

Its_Got2Happen
period. Any time I get a craving. Mouth cancer pictures and stories. That will pretty much lock that beast the fuck up.


How ever long you have been dipping when you hear about people that dipped a shorter length of time then you getting mouth cancer and dying that will wake your ass the fuck up. I think too many people get this idea the cancer comes when your old. Im 13 days quit 31 years old and now fucking perma paranoid im gonna end my life with out a jaw after 8 years, 4 of which were pretty damn light, but thats more than it apparently took for some unlucky individuals who are now no longer with us or sporting half a face. if that doesnt keep you on track i dont know what will.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 10, 2013, 11:35:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I think a lot of people are full of shit with all these feel good posts. Can the power of positive thinking and positive talk really get us out of this fucking hole we have dug so deep. I want to dip so bad right now I cant stand it. The mental aspect is every damn bit as hard as that physical withdrawal was. I was practiced at that part, 100 times over. It hurts but at least it has an end. Seems like there is no end to this nightmare. I just want to feel normal again. Cant think beyond today.
Personally, I'm not full of shit with my "feel good stories". What would I have to gain by that? You think I get off on tricking nic addicts into thinking they will feel better over time, knowing they really wont?

It sucks...I've been where you are right now...I was a pussy too. If my pussy ass can make it so can you. Man the fuck up and keep the shit out of your mouth. Find your new normal...your normal normal, not your poison brained normal. You lived a lie for 20 years, you were a slave. Fight for your freedom. Its worth it...TRUST ME.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 11, 2013, 01:53:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I think a lot of people are full of shit with all these feel good posts.  Can the power of positive thinking and positive talk really get us out of this fucking hole we have dug so deep.  I want to dip so bad right now I cant stand it.  The mental aspect is every damn bit as hard as that physical withdrawal was.  I was practiced at that part, 100 times over.  It hurts but at least it has an end.  Seems like there is no end to this nightmare.  I just want to feel normal again.  Cant think beyond today.
This post is a fucking kick ass post. I am sure we have all felt like this. Hell I have had days where I wanted to be positive but I wasn't.

Bro, more than ever, get pissed at the nic bitch and embrace the shit, suck and negative feelings. Fucking ask for more! Hate nicotine so much that you want more pain and suck.

You want to feel positive. Not today under any circumstance do you cave. Fight, Fight , Fight. Don't worry about tomorrows match, only today. Grit up and scream but never, never, never surrender. Not today!

Survive today and repeat tomorrow. Soon you will smile because freedom is happiness. You will feel better and smile!

No I don't think you can will positive energy out of your negative ass. You have to work and earn your way out of it.

I fucking hat nicotine and YOU SHOULD TOO!!!!

Hate her, don't glamorize her. And If I spent all this time to get you to give a little more effort than you think you have right now.....and you go hump a can of lies, evil, murdering slave driving weed. FUCK YOU.

If you are in this to win it...check your PM. I am so fired up right now. Call me and let me knock the nic bitch out and then I'll hand you the knife to stab her in the neck.

There is no glamour in dipping. Don't let here deceive you not today.

Check your PM. My phone number is there. Call me, I'm ready. You don't know how strong you are yet. Just survive and you soon will.

Don't think past today. That is dangerous. Only worry, think and focus on today!
I still have those days occasionally and Mt is who I call for a swift kick in the nuts!
'nutkick'. Wt smile for the hidden camera, your on kicked in the nuts!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on January 11, 2013, 08:34:00 AM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I think a lot of people are full of shit with all these feel good posts.  Can the power of positive thinking and positive talk really get us out of this fucking hole we have dug so deep.  I want to dip so bad right now I cant stand it.  The mental aspect is every damn bit as hard as that physical withdrawal was.  I was practiced at that part, 100 times over.  It hurts but at least it has an end.  Seems like there is no end to this nightmare.  I just want to feel normal again.  Cant think beyond today.
This post is a fucking kick ass post. I am sure we have all felt like this. Hell I have had days where I wanted to be positive but I wasn't.

Bro, more than ever, get pissed at the nic bitch and embrace the shit, suck and negative feelings. Fucking ask for more! Hate nicotine so much that you want more pain and suck.

You want to feel positive. Not today under any circumstance do you cave. Fight, Fight , Fight. Don't worry about tomorrows match, only today. Grit up and scream but never, never, never surrender. Not today!

Survive today and repeat tomorrow. Soon you will smile because freedom is happiness. You will feel better and smile!

No I don't think you can will positive energy out of your negative ass. You have to work and earn your way out of it.

I fucking hat nicotine and YOU SHOULD TOO!!!!

Hate her, don't glamorize her. And If I spent all this time to get you to give a little more effort than you think you have right now.....and you go hump a can of lies, evil, murdering slave driving weed. FUCK YOU.

If you are in this to win it...check your PM. I am so fired up right now. Call me and let me knock the nic bitch out and then I'll hand you the knife to stab her in the neck.

There is no glamour in dipping. Don't let here deceive you not today.

Check your PM. My phone number is there. Call me, I'm ready. You don't know how strong you are yet. Just survive and you soon will.

Don't think past today. That is dangerous. Only worry, think and focus on today!
I still have those days occasionally and Mt is who I call for a swift kick in the nuts!
'nutkick'. Wt smile for the hidden camera, your on kicked in the nuts!
what day he's on? itsgot2happen
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tazbutane on January 11, 2013, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I think a lot of people are full of shit with all these feel good posts.  Can the power of positive thinking and positive talk really get us out of this fucking hole we have dug so deep.  I want to dip so bad right now I cant stand it.  The mental aspect is every damn bit as hard as that physical withdrawal was.  I was practiced at that part, 100 times over.  It hurts but at least it has an end.  Seems like there is no end to this nightmare.  I just want to feel normal again.  Cant think beyond today.
This post is a fucking kick ass post. I am sure we have all felt like this. Hell I have had days where I wanted to be positive but I wasn't.

Bro, more than ever, get pissed at the nic bitch and embrace the shit, suck and negative feelings. Fucking ask for more! Hate nicotine so much that you want more pain and suck.

You want to feel positive. Not today under any circumstance do you cave. Fight, Fight , Fight. Don't worry about tomorrows match, only today. Grit up and scream but never, never, never surrender. Not today!

Survive today and repeat tomorrow. Soon you will smile because freedom is happiness. You will feel better and smile!

No I don't think you can will positive energy out of your negative ass. You have to work and earn your way out of it.

I fucking hat nicotine and YOU SHOULD TOO!!!!

Hate her, don't glamorize her. And If I spent all this time to get you to give a little more effort than you think you have right now.....and you go hump a can of lies, evil, murdering slave driving weed. FUCK YOU.

If you are in this to win it...check your PM. I am so fired up right now. Call me and let me knock the nic bitch out and then I'll hand you the knife to stab her in the neck.

There is no glamour in dipping. Don't let here deceive you not today.

Check your PM. My phone number is there. Call me, I'm ready. You don't know how strong you are yet. Just survive and you soon will.

Don't think past today. That is dangerous. Only worry, think and focus on today!
I still have those days occasionally and Mt is who I call for a swift kick in the nuts!
'nutkick'. Wt smile for the hidden camera, your on kicked in the nuts!
what day he's on? itsgot2happen
Day 10 or so right? Let the rage flow, and remember it. You don't want to go through this again? Remember it!
Quote
Cant think beyond today
That is it, don't need to think past today. For today is all that matters. keep your word today and let tomorrow take care of itself.

hang in there, it doesn't have to be positive all the time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Kubrick on January 11, 2013, 10:23:00 AM
Where you at? Anyone have his number? He's been pretty good at posting roll early, but I don't see it yet today. 'finger point'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on January 11, 2013, 11:23:00 AM
Quote from: Kubrick
Where you at? Anyone have his number? He's been pretty good at posting roll early, but I don't see it yet today. 'finger point'
I sent him PM this morning, no reply yet..
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 11, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
Can someone post roll for me? Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be. It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH. But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 916quit on January 11, 2013, 12:29:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me? Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be. It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH. But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
I got u on. Hang in there man. I know how bad it sucks but I promise it gets better.
You have a lot of support here- u need more do not hesitate to pm me for digits
Tom
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: J2b on January 11, 2013, 12:53:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me? Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be. It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH. But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 11, 2013, 04:07:00 PM
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me?  Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be.  It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH.  But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
I live in Michigan too. Maybe we could give him a double slap down. I think he needs it.

I think he also has the same problem I had...no patience. I wanted to be "cured" and I wanted it NOW.

"What's that? There is no cure, I will begin to feel better over time? Well how long? You don't know, it could be months????? Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck this site, and fuck the horse you rode in on. I don't believe your bullshit. I'm not gonna cave, but fuck you and thanks for the support...fuckers. Fuck......fuck....FUUUUCCCCCKKKK THIS SUUUUCCCCKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"

Been there, thought THAT. It will get better. I promise.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 11, 2013, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me?  Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be.   It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH.   But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
I live in Michigan too. Maybe we could give him a double slap down. I think he needs it.

I think he also has the same problem I had...no patience. I wanted to be "cured" and I wanted it NOW.

"What's that? There is no cure, I will begin to feel better over time? Well how long? You don't know, it could be months????? Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck this site, and fuck the horse you rode in on. I don't believe your bullshit. I'm not gonna cave, but fuck you and thanks for the support...fuckers. Fuck......fuck....FUUUUCCCCCKKKK THIS SUUUUCCCCKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"

Been there, thought THAT. It will get better. I promise.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'

Oh man that just took me down memory lane. Those were the days. Awe Day 1-14

Then 20 -29, then 60 -80 then an absolute melt down at 280. 'crackup'

yep it all makes me smile too. What a great journey to claiming freedom.

'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'

'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'Crazy' 'Crazy'

'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger'

Fuck me, Fuck you, Fuck Why? I don't fucking know but just Fuckity fuck fuck fuck you gheys!!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 11, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
Just a quick thought. Keep raging and venting here. You don't want the real world to make quitting harder by thinking you are a dick. Yeah they get that you quit but pick your fights here.

We like to fight and we get the need to vent. Write it, express your frustrations and your victories. It helps you stay somewhat normal to your friends and loved ones.

The mob is waiting for you.

Hi Ryan you pissed? Come and play on the KTC play ground.

:angrymob: :angrymob: :angrymob:
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: cdaniels on January 11, 2013, 05:14:00 PM
i love this site for just that reason ryan. listen to these gehys. like i said i found out i have other ppl living inside me all fucking screaming and yelling at each other and at me. fuck me?! no fuck yourself. no wait that was me or was that myself or was that I..... fucking shut the fuck up.... am i now finding out that my normal is a fucking insane multiple peronality fucking nic addict..... FUCKKKKKKK......
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on January 12, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
Quote from: cdaniels
i love this site for just that reason ryan. listen to these gehys. like i said i found out i have other ppl living inside me all fucking screaming and yelling at each other and at me. fuck me?! no fuck yourself. no wait that was me or was that myself or was that I..... fucking shut the fuck up.... am i now finding out that my normal is a fucking insane multiple peronality fucking nic addict..... FUCKKKKKKK......
'crackup' 'crackup'

for 30 years I thought I was an ogar..it was the bitch the whole time.. all those screaming people inside are gone.. Now I'm that looney guy that waves and smiles at everyone... you be feeling better in no time. B)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 12, 2013, 10:46:00 AM
Ryan you can continue doing this, just keep pushing through the day!! If day is overwhelming at times take it 1 hour at a time. You are a rock of quit!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 12, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 30yraddict on January 12, 2013, 11:02:00 PM
as someone who watched throat cancer take the life of both a brother and a guy I grew up with in the last year, I can tell you that neither you or I have any idea what misery is.

It took a year and a half for my brother to die. He started out at 200lb when he was diagnosed. He weighed under 100 when he died. I did not even recognize him on his deathbed, his face was sunken around his skull. The physical pain, guilt, and mental anguish he went through is something I cannot imagine, but the image of his body, and especially his face the day he passed away will never be forgotten.

Your quit is too important to throw away. Oral/Throat Cancer does not take anyone quickly and painlessly.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: J2b on January 12, 2013, 11:28:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
If you cant honestly say you are quitting for you, dont bother.

Your attitude sucks, and you are in love with dipping. I normally wouldnt say this, but you have already mentally caved.

So do it. Save us all the time and effort that we will no doubt put into trying to save you, and the time you will waste telling us how its so hard but you are sticking it out cause you promised so and so 100 days.

There are too many out there who want this and are doing it for the right only reason for us to waste time on those who don't.

There is great knowledge here; I find this nugget PERFECT for this situation:
Quote from: scowick65
"Hey, snowflake, don't take a seat in the life raft if you are not serious about saving your life."
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on January 12, 2013, 11:33:00 PM
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do.  I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too.  But right now, I suck.  Whaa, whaa, whaa.  I am even tired of hearing myself whine. 

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it.  I usually love it and spend hours there.  Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand.  I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in.  Nope, instead I wanted to be them.  Not a care in the world.  They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly.  I usually stock up on that shit.  Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman. 

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen.  Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't.  Not at all, nope, I want it back.  The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning.  If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision.  Life is too short to be miserable.  I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
If you cant honestly say you are quitting for you, dont bother.

Your attitude sucks, and you are in love with dipping. I normally wouldnt say this, but you have already mentally caved.

So do it. Save us all the time and effort that we will no doubt put into trying to save you, and the time you will waste telling us how its so hard but you are sticking it out cause you promised so and so 100 days.

There are too many out there who want this and are doing it for the right only reason for us to waste time on those who don't.

There is great knowledge here; I find this nugget PERFECT for this situation:
Quote from: scowick65
"Hey, snowflake, don't take a seat in the life raft if you are not serious about saving your life."
dude....seriously.....???????

100% agreed - you have mentally caved.....

not even sure what to say...mostly it would be something like "fuck you you are a coward" or "just leave the site because you suck ass"

but I am not going to say any of that.....

just man the fuck up and do it for you......cuz no one else will
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 12, 2013, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
as someone who watched throat cancer take the life of both a brother and a guy I grew up with in the last year, I can tell you that neither you or I have any idea what misery is. 

It took a year and a half for my brother to die. He started out at 200lb when he was diagnosed. He weighed under 100 when he died.  I did not even recognize him on his deathbed, his face was sunken around his skull.  The physical pain, guilt, and  mental anguish he went through is something I cannot imagine, but the image of his body, and especially his face the day he passed away will never be forgotten. 

Your quit is too important to throw away. Oral/Throat Cancer does not take anyone quickly and painlessly.
First time I heard that 30year. I physically sank and can't imagine what that could be like...I am sorry for the pain and misery your loved ones went through. (all of them, the sick and healthy).

Do not waiver, go 100 days with exactness! Life is short but long enough that 100 days is a flash in the pan. When you have a good day, share that experience too. Part of havingt honest posts is to share good experiences too!

Not every win is pretty but at a fishing show with all that evil shit around you and even free...you walked. You may be mad, frustrated or depressed but don't you see...you won another match and live to fight tomorrow.

You are winning! This is the suck and embracing it is having the shit offered for free and walking. Keep winning! 100 days, you can do this and I believe you are a man of your word. Post roll, keep your word and repeat.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 13, 2013, 01:18:00 AM
Got2 I just went back and read every bit of your intro. Before I did I was going to pass by and write you off as another failed attempt, but, I see a quitter struggling with the pain of a failed affair! 2 weeks ago I had a friend cave to the bitch. He thought his life was just to miserable without the slut. I have a hard time making the case for sticking with it because I sucked on the bitches ass for 40 years!! Oh wait a minute, for 287 days I've told the bitch to fuck herself!! if you think you are different than the rest of us you are crazy!! Each and everyone of us had those days and weeks where we forgot or tried to ignore the suck of being slaves and tried to justify crawling back to the scanky bitch. Loosen your pants and give those balls room to grow!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 13, 2013, 02:00:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Dude...I should have went to the rock financial show place and threw you in the fish pond. Maybe you would wake the fuck up.

You are basically counting down days to the hof so you can cave? Talk about a planned cave. Might as well save yourself the time and agony and shut down your account and cave now.

You quit for anyone other than yourself....you're fucked. Still glamourize chew...you're fucked. Do not build up a hate for the bitch...you're fucked. Quit using sheer will power and you will be miserable and fucked.

You got some bad shit rolling around in your head. I know it sucks but its time you dig deep and quit for YOU. Change your attitude and don't look at 100 days as a cave date. Instead grow some balls and look forward to 100 days as an accomplishment, something to take pride in.

Read the hof enteries and you will read stories of people full pride who have built up a HATE for the nic hitch. Not anyone thanking God 100 days is over so they can go back to the can. They are happy to be breaking fre from being a slave.

Change your attitude, break free from your addiction. Jump in head first man. You cant do that when your heads up your ass. We are here in the pool waiting for you, the water is fine but we cant MAKE you to it

You have to help yourself. Keep grinding to the hall. I guarantee you will write a speech about how great you feel, if you tweek your attitude. Keep your head up your ass and on day 101 you'll be back to finger banging a can and slowly commuting suicide. Up yo you...









ur asa.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on January 13, 2013, 02:30:00 AM
Lmao- you just hit what's known as the two week weakness. It will pass. Let's not focus on hitting 100 just yet lil buddy. Let's focus on one day at a time. As for your current mental entanglement.....

When using you wish you were quit

When quit you wish you were using

Which of these two is the truth?
The other one is just addiction. Hold tight to your memory of wanting to quit. Did you pray? Beg? Wish? Hope? To be quit? Remember the shame and frustration of trying so many times and failing? If your like me you wanted to be quit bad. I know you have a memory of broken promises, guilt , or something similar. Do you really want to go back to that? You deserve more than that life.

My advice is simple, stop fixating on chewing. You quit, go live your life. Besides, have you ever known anybody that said "I'm so glad I started chewing again" the dip you get when you cave isn't the one your lusting for. It won't be a "good " dip. Instead it will be just like the 10,000 shitty ones that came before it. The ones that you had to have because the can owned you.

That shit doesn't fill the void it created it
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: lospenguinos on January 13, 2013, 07:01:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do.  I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too.  But right now, I suck.  Whaa, whaa, whaa.  I am even tired of hearing myself whine. 

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it.  I usually love it and spend hours there.  Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand.  I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in.  Nope, instead I wanted to be them.  Not a care in the world.  They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly.  I usually stock up on that shit.  Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman. 

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen.  Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't.  Not at all, nope, I want it back.  The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning.   If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision.  Life is too short to be miserable.  I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Dude...I should have went to the rock financial show place and threw you in the fish pond. Maybe you would wake the fuck up.

You are basically counting down days to the hof so you can cave? Talk about a planned cave. Might as well save yourself the time and agony and shut down your account and cave now.

You quit for anyone other than yourself....you're fucked. Still glamourize chew...you're fucked. Do not build up a hate for the bitch...you're fucked. Quit using sheer will power and you will be miserable and fucked.

You got some bad shit rolling around in your head. I know it sucks but its time you dig deep and quit for YOU. Change your attitude and don't look at 100 days as a cave date. Instead grow some balls and look forward to 100 days as an accomplishment, something to take pride in.

Read the hof enteries and you will read stories of people full pride who have built up a HATE for the nic hitch. Not anyone thanking God 100 days is over so they can go back to the can. They are happy to be breaking fre from being a slave.

Change your attitude, break free from your addiction. Jump in head first man. You cant do that when your heads up your ass. We are here in the pool waiting for you, the water is fine but we cant MAKE you to it

You have to help yourself. Keep grinding to the hall. I guarantee you will write a speech about how great you feel, if you tweek your attitude. Keep your head up your ass and on day 101 you'll be back to finger banging a can and slowly commuting suicide. Up yo you...









ur asa.
You need to look deeper at that scene and see through the lies. How many of those that you envy do you think want to quit but can't? How many worry about getting cancer, and check their mouths every morning afraid what they might find, then throw one in anyway? How many wish thu never started that shit to begin with? Do they worry about dying and leaving their families years too early? If they don't do that shit today, they will someday. And they will envy you if you stick with it.

It's like that family you envy cuz they have a bigger house, better cars, motorcycles and boats you always wanted, go on vacations that you have been trying to save for but can't. Then You find out it was all credit card debt, a charade, all bullshit. And deep down inside that guy you envy is worried as fuck about how he's ever gonna pay that shit off.

Another lie: you thought they were being nice by offering free tobacco? They are really trying to keep you addicted. They are trying to fucking kill you! And they hope you brought your kids to the show too so they can see how cool it is to chew while fishing, how cool it is to go to the fishing show for free tins. They are not being nice to you bro. They are being selfish for their own financial gain, at the risk of your health.

Stay quit bro. That is the truth.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: epayne on January 13, 2013, 07:18:00 AM
IG2H, If you can choose this (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) for yourself, you do it. None of us can stop you. Just read those few paragraphs and take a good, long look at those pictures and then tell yourself out loud that you can choose that over your health.

Then, read this (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6786&st=0#entry22177898) and tell yourself out loud that you can choose that path.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 13, 2013, 09:07:00 AM
Quote from: Skoal
Lmao- you just hit what's known as the two week weakness. It will pass. Let's not focus on hitting 100 just yet lil buddy. Let's focus on one day at a time. As for your current mental entanglement.....

When using you wish you were quit

When quit you wish you were using

Which of these two is the truth?
The other one is just addiction. Hold tight to your memory of wanting to quit. Did you pray? Beg? Wish? Hope? To be quit? Remember the shame and frustration of trying so many times and failing? If your like me you wanted to be quit bad. I know you have a memory of broken promises, guilt , or something similar. Do you really want to go back to that? You deserve more than that life.

My advice is simple, stop fixating on chewing. You quit, go live your life. Besides, have you ever known anybody that said "I'm so glad I started chewing again" the dip you get when you cave isn't the one your lusting for. It won't be a "good " dip. Instead it will be just like the 10,000 shitty ones that came before it. The ones that you had to have because the can owned you.

That shit doesn't fill the void it created it
Listen to the skoal monster. When I was a drivrling mess, his words seemed to really reach me and make sense. He's a titan of quit. You would be wise to heed his advice..
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Kubrick on January 13, 2013, 09:33:00 AM
Just in case you didn't see SM's words of wisdom:

My advice is simple, stop fixating on chewing. You quit, go live your life.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 13, 2013, 10:13:00 AM
Lot of painful truths expressed here. Sounds like I might be screwed. I guess success lies in the "attitude", of the quitter and perhaps I need to develop a better one. You see, I have quite a history of intentionally sabotoging my own quits. It is a pretty effective method to give the addict mind what it wants. I am sure there is a bullshit, sissy tone in my last post, (the 100 day thing, etc). I am just thinking outloud and being honest.

I hopeful that my shitty attitude does not negatively impact any other quitters, especially the newer ones. I wonder if I should quit posting on the intro? Might be more appropriate to vent in chat or buy a journal or something? If anyone feels they have expended enough energy on my quit, feel free to unfollow this particular thread. Thanks for your time, I have treasured every word. There is very good reason for your instinct, I am sure there are much better dogs to bet on.

Ahh, all that said, OK here goes with the better attitude. I am still in this fight and doing pretty damn good. I am winning. I am kicking the crap out of this nic bitch so far. I have wrestled with many of her lies already. Hey they make alot of sense to an addict. Despite that, I have stuffed her head in the fucking toilet for the last 12 days, and will continue to do so. Ryan vs Nic, 12 wins zero losses. I have successfully managed every crave and turned my back on every temptation. Posting roll everyday, and keeping that promise.

OK that's all I've got. I am fearful that I am just going through the motions. I don't know why I still want it so bad still. I guess not verbalizing that fact is considered having a good attitude.

Holy rambling clusterfuck!! I gotta go post roll. I quit today, I am gonna go live my life. Keep it simple stupid. Thanks for all the words.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 13, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Lot of painful truths expressed here. Sounds like I might be screwed. I guess success lies in the "attitude", of the quitter and perhaps I need to develop a better one. You see, I have quite a history of intentionally sabotoging my own quits. It is a pretty effective method to give the addict mind what it wants. I am sure there is a bullshit, sissy tone in my last post, (the 100 day thing, etc). I am just thinking outloud and being honest.

I hopeful that my shitty attitude does not negatively impact any other quitters, especially the newer ones. I wonder if I should quit posting on the intro? Might be more appropriate to vent in chat or buy a journal or something? If anyone feels they have expended enough energy on my quit, feel free to unfollow this particular thread. Thanks for your time, I have treasured every word. There is very good reason for your instinct, I am sure there are much better dogs to bet on.

Ahh, all that said, OK here goes with the better attitude. I am still in this fight and doing pretty damn good. I am winning. I am kicking the crap out of this nic bitch so far. I have wrestled with many of her lies already. Hey they make alot of sense to an addict. Despite that, I have stuffed her head in the fucking toilet for the last 12 days, and will continue to do so. Ryan vs Nic, 12 wins zero losses. I have successfully managed every crave and turned my back on every temptation. Posting roll everyday, and keeping that promise.

OK that's all I've got. I am fearful that I am just going through the motions. I don't know why I still want it so bad still. I guess not verbalizing that fact is considered having a good attitude.

Holy rambling clusterfuck!! I gotta go post roll. I quit today, I am gonna go live my life. Keep it simple stupid. Thanks for all the words.
'clap'
That sounds much better! Don't quit writing it helps you and those reading. Plus it gives us something to dissect, and think about.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on January 13, 2013, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Lot of painful truths expressed here.  Sounds like I might be screwed.  I guess success lies in the "attitude", of the quitter and perhaps I need to develop a better one.  You see, I have quite a history of intentionally sabotoging my own quits.  It is a pretty effective method to give the addict mind what it wants.  I am sure there is a bullshit, sissy tone in my last post, (the 100 day thing, etc).  I am just thinking outloud and being honest.

I hopeful that my shitty attitude does not negatively impact any other quitters, especially the newer ones.  I wonder if I should quit posting on the intro?  Might be more appropriate to vent in chat or buy a journal or something?  If anyone feels they have expended enough energy on my quit, feel free to unfollow this particular thread.  Thanks for your time, I have treasured every word.  There is very good reason for your instinct, I am sure there are much better dogs to bet on. 

Ahh, all that said, OK here goes with the better attitude.  I am still in this fight and doing pretty damn good.  I am winning.  I am kicking the crap out of this nic bitch so far.  I have wrestled with many of her lies already.  Hey they make alot of sense to an addict.  Despite that, I have stuffed her head in the fucking toilet for the last 12 days, and will continue to do so.  Ryan vs Nic, 12 wins zero losses.  I have successfully managed every crave and turned my back on every temptation.  Posting roll everyday, and keeping that promise. 

OK that's all I've got.  I am fearful that I am just going through the motions.  I don't know why I still want it so bad still.  I guess not verbalizing that fact is considered having a good attitude. 

Holy rambling clusterfuck!!  I gotta go post roll.  I quit today, I am gonna go live my life.  Keep it simple stupid.  Thanks for all the words.
'clap'
That sounds much better! Don't quit writing it helps you and those reading. Plus it gives us something to dissect, and think about.
yes much better, It's good to get things off your chest. It'll clear your head, and in the process someone will read your post and benefit as well. It's all a cycle of helping each other, and that's why it works. When I was confused or craving I would read a lot. There was alway's somebody that said just the right thing to ease my pain. Chat, post, phone. doesn't matter how you reach out as long as you stay involved and use your tools.
I remember early on in my quit I would read the elders saying (it will get better, the waters fine) Well I'm plugging along now and can say that it really does get better. peace
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 13, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
Don't stop writhing you knuckle head. Getting everything out can do nothing but help you. And quit worrying about if you're wearing us out. Just focus on fucking quitting.

Its like I tell my 3rd and 4th grade basketball players who get down when I yell at them. "The day I stop yelling at you is the day I stop believing in you. If I didn't think you could do it, or I didn't care anymore I simply wouldnt say ANYTHING to you."

I know you're not in 3rd grade but the same thing applies here. Look at the support you're getting, no just from me but all the guys on this site. We all want you to succeed and know you can do it. If we didn't we wouldn't say shit to you.

Quit thinking about it so God Damn much. Start thinking of other shit like banging a co worker (a female hopefully), sports, your kids, how to make more money, how cool it would be to fly, etc..it doesnt have to be real stuff just THE SAME STUFF YOU USED TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE YOU QUIT.

You got this man. We believe in you. If we didn't we wouldn't say shit .
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on January 13, 2013, 01:14:00 PM
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/2weeks.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/2weeks.asp)

This is the link for the two week weakness. Very common to struggle all of a sudden around this time. It's short lived so don't stress on it.

I reccommended a book by Alan Carr - here it is on PDF.
http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5 ... 34a829.pdf (http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf)

It isn't attitude. But it is all mental games for the next couple months. Remember this is Chess not checkers. Your inner addict is going to try to outsmart you at every turn. Thats the value of posting up your thoughts here. This place works like a mirror that will reflect back the truth. You can fool yourself, and probably some of us, but never all of us. Mostly because we all stood where you stand now. We know.

Don't hide the fact your struggling, your here for support.

Your original post raised alarm because you were creating reasons to start again. Thats known as use justification.

You and I both know that you actually DONT want to dip again. What you want is to feel normal. You needed nicotine to feel that way and so did I. The truth is that we were normal before we ever started using. Then eventually we had to use just to maintain normal.

Once you've kept quit for awhile you will return to feeling good without nicotine. Your no longer physically dependant on a drug to make you feel ok.

Be patient my friend, 13 days of quit is awesome, but it can't undo all the damage. Give it time. Until then try to push past all this and start enjoying life without nic.

Also Maybe this will help
Quote
THE VOID

Silly rabbits, nicotine wasn't filling the void it was creating it.

What exactly is it that your foggy mind imagines you lost? The only thing that chew is good for is to keep you addicted to chew.

You think you miss it? Is it the morning ritual of scraping the dead skin off your lip? Did it make you a better husband, father, son. Perhaps you miss being tethered to a dripping sewer of a spitter. I know!!! It made you smarter and the lump in your lip was a real hit with the ladies . You didn't lose anything , instead you have gained everything, perhaps your very life.

Nothing to miss thats all illusion created by the addiction

"Bullshit" you say "I remember that it was good and I liked it"
You miss that good dip? the perfect wedge that you think you remember. I bet you have a romantic memory , mine is of dipping in the bleachers at the highschool game on Friday night. (Secret for you) That's not the dip you get when you cave. Ohhhh nooooo buttercup, you get a dip that was just like your LAST ONE. Remember that lame chew? The one you had to have just to feed your habit, you had to think about where to put it because everywhere else hurt. Except this dip will be full of guilt and shame and failure. How could you start again when you have read the Tom Kern story? or looked at ODT's cancer surgery, or spent any time here at all?

Don't romanticize your addiction, if it was so great why did you want to stop in the first place.

It isnt the one good chew you get when you fail , its the 10,000 shitty chews that will come with it. How long will it take you to get back to 30 days of freedom? How long did it take you this time? for me it was years in between quits. You can't risk that, how many chances until you look your son or daughter in the eyes and tell them you killed yourself? and you did it on purpose. The next dip could be the one
that kills you. It isn't likely but the possibility is there. Jenny Kern said the odds of getting cancer from chew don't matter if your the one that gets it. Just sayin

Still on the fence eh, " it was always there for me" and " it would calm me down" you mumble. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor it raises your blood pressure. It is also a stimulant. Sounds calming alright . More illusions of your nicotine soaked cerabellum. When you are angry you produce chemicals like adrenaline and cortisol. These literally take the nic out of your blood stream. So you go into withdrawl. So....we...would have a dip, and feel better. The calm you felt... was only the relief from withdrawl.

But we all believed it was THE DIP that calmed us, it was in reality the DIP that caused alot of the stress. Nicotine creating a void (can you see it yet)

The feel better high you seek, the replacement for your so called void? I think PBkids shrink friend was close but not quite there. If you can admit the void is caused by nicotine and your addiction, then the opposite must be true as well. Recovery from the addiction will fill the void. You can see this prove out in your own group and those ahead of you. Posts such as it was great to hang out with my kid and not worry about a place to spit or a spitter. Posts on how nice it feels to not HAVE to lie and hide. How proud you feel, how proud your loved ones are. Those feelings of relief, calm , become more and more as your quit progresses. THAT my addict brethren will fill the void, THAT is the good and the positive stuff that your already working for. (another secret) it's worth it and it feels so much better than you do now.

your body has to heal, your mind needs to heal. Dip literally changes the way your brain works, and it changes how your body produces and uses all of its feel good chemicals. It effects serotonin and adrenaline. The fog in my opinion is created by a lack of chemical production when your brain is trying to figure out what the hell to do with out a steady stream of posion ( you knew that nicotine is a potent neurotoxin right). Anti depressants act on the same chemicals that nic did. Coincidence that Wellbutrin does the same thing? You may feel depressed, the funk, the fog, the blahs and the fuck its. It hits with a repeatable timing in all the groups. Common sense tells you that a pattern that occurs across every group could be reality.This is your brain healing. Literally nicotine receptors are dying and new neuro pathways are forming. This is the price you must pay to earn your freedom. Embrace it. Rkymtnman gave you the best piece of advice yet. Excercise, Yes you frito lay lovin pork rind munching fattys need to get off your collective asses and excercise. Walking counts if you put some distance there. Excercise works on your body just like the rest of the stuff above. Excercise releases endorphins that will help you feel better. It is scientifically proven that you will have less craves and less severe craves AND a larger number of you droolers will stay quit. Thor's Pajammer is correct with meditation, check out what meditation does to brain chemistry as well. Its all the same , help yourself and take a walk.

As Forest Gump says thats all I have to say about that. Sorry for the long post, I hope it helps. It is really just a collection of things I've picked up from those who helped me. Some is from posts you'll find if you dig hard enough. One day at a time buttercups. If I can do it so can you. Now seriously put the pickle down and buy a ab roller.

Quitting can really be the easiest hard thing you'll ever do. Or it can be the hardest easy thing. Depends on how you flip the switch in your mind.

sM 
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 13, 2013, 01:22:00 PM
It seems I forgot somthing over the last few days. I am not TRYING to quit, I did quit. Thank you guys for remnding me of the basics. There is a boat load of wisdom and talent on this site.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 13, 2013, 02:42:00 PM
Thish is a really good thread. It enlightens all of us to draw a line in the sand daily. If its day one or day 1001. We must always rally and say, "quitters on this side, nicotine and her sympathizers on that side.

You can't quit nic and love her too. If you have an enemy, it only means you stood for something.

I have stood with the brotherhood of quit for 306 days. Nicotine, and USTobacco is my enemy. I am at war with them until they die or I die. No truce, no surrender.

Got2, I know you want to quit and kudos for really listening, learning and you are winning.

Be a sponge and stand with us today. No tobacco crosses our line! Not now and not today!

Quit today with you sporting a record of 306 wins Zero losses! Life is best when you are quit.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 13, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
As I reflect on this weekend, I am grateful for this site. I was nearly defeated by a great lie this weekend. Because of KTC, my Quit is still alive and growing stronger. In this site lies the wisdom, the tools and the support that can free us from this bondage.

Thank you for the book link SM. I only have a few pages left to read. As I read it I was reminded of a Word of Wisdom post I read last week. I think the post summarizes a good portion of the book.

Quote:
"Myth Busters 101: Understanding Nicotine and Stress
There are several myths about nicotine and stress that need to be debunked if you are going to understand whatÂ’s happening in your lives right now. The use of nicotine actually has a seesaw effect in our bodies and minds in relationship to stress, and many quitters experience increased anxiety, rage and nervous tension at the beginning of their quits.

Myth #1 – Nicotine helps me relax.
I used to think that dip helped me to calm down and chill out, especially at the end of a busy day. However, studies have shown that nicotine actually does just the opposite. The physiological and psychological effects of nicotine addiction create a “void” that only the drug can satisfy or fill. It causes an increase in heart rate, blood pressure, respiration, and blood glucose levels. Taking a dip to relax is merely taking a dip to cure a nicotine craving, substituting addiction for relaxation.

Myth #2 – Nicotine gives me pleasure.
One of the reasons that I hung on to dipping so long is that I once thought it provided pleasure or happiness. An addict’s logic can rationalize most anything. Think of it this way: Suppose that every day I undergo a physical beating with a whip which causes intense pain and suffering. However, once every week the beatings are mercifully taken away, and on that day I sit back to soak in the “pleasure” of not being hit. What I’ve done is confused the absence of pain with pleasure. The beatings have conditioned me to equate pleasure with the absence of the abuse. Nicotine addiction does just that. It creates a pain (the craving) that is “removed” when more of the drug is fed into our bodies. It conditions us to think that the absence of the craving equals satisfaction, substituting addiction for pleasure.

Myth #3 – Nicotine helps me deal with stress.
This one was a real eye opener for me. When I was experiencing a difficult situation or intense problem I would always reach for the can. Why? Because I thought it was my ally against stress. When I quit my world came crashing down and I ended up having high levels of anxiety and panic attacks. An addictÂ’s mind might lead one to think that the nicotine was keeping me from all that stuff but in reality it was the cause. Nicotine served as a substitute not a cure. When I dealt with the craves I thought I was dealing with the stress but that was not the case. I never actually handled or solved the stress; I only took the drug and when I needed to face stress without it I discovered that I had always been hiding from my problems, substituting addiction for reality."

That is good shit right there. IG2H (Ryan)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 13, 2013, 08:35:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
As I reflect on this weekend, I am grateful for this site. I was nearly defeated by a great lie this weekend. Because of KTC, my Quit is still alive and growing stronger. In this site lies the wisdom, the tools and the support that can free us from this bondage.

Thank you for the book link SM. I only have a few pages left to read. As I read it I was reminded of a Word of Wisdom post I read last week. I think the post summarizes a good portion of the book.

Quote:
"Myth Busters 101: Understanding Nicotine and Stress
There are several myths about nicotine and stress that need to be debunked if you are going to understand whatÂ’s happening in your lives right now. The use of nicotine actually has a seesaw effect in our bodies and minds in relationship to stress, and many quitters experience increased anxiety, rage and nervous tension at the beginning of their quits.

Myth #1 – Nicotine helps me relax.
I used to think that dip helped me to calm down and chill out, especially at the end of a busy day. However, studies have shown that nicotine actually does just the opposite. The physiological and psychological effects of nicotine addiction create a “void” that only the drug can satisfy or fill. It causes an increase in heart rate, blood pressure, respiration, and blood glucose levels. Taking a dip to relax is merely taking a dip to cure a nicotine craving, substituting addiction for relaxation.

Myth #2 – Nicotine gives me pleasure.
One of the reasons that I hung on to dipping so long is that I once thought it provided pleasure or happiness. An addict’s logic can rationalize most anything. Think of it this way: Suppose that every day I undergo a physical beating with a whip which causes intense pain and suffering. However, once every week the beatings are mercifully taken away, and on that day I sit back to soak in the “pleasure” of not being hit. What I’ve done is confused the absence of pain with pleasure. The beatings have conditioned me to equate pleasure with the absence of the abuse. Nicotine addiction does just that. It creates a pain (the craving) that is “removed” when more of the drug is fed into our bodies. It conditions us to think that the absence of the craving equals satisfaction, substituting addiction for pleasure.

Myth #3 – Nicotine helps me deal with stress.
This one was a real eye opener for me. When I was experiencing a difficult situation or intense problem I would always reach for the can. Why? Because I thought it was my ally against stress. When I quit my world came crashing down and I ended up having high levels of anxiety and panic attacks. An addictÂ’s mind might lead one to think that the nicotine was keeping me from all that stuff but in reality it was the cause. Nicotine served as a substitute not a cure. When I dealt with the craves I thought I was dealing with the stress but that was not the case. I never actually handled or solved the stress; I only took the drug and when I needed to face stress without it I discovered that I had always been hiding from my problems, substituting addiction for reality."

That is good shit right there. IG2H (Ryan)
sM recommended the same book to me. Ive probably read it 5 times now. It really helped me understand what I was battling and how nic does and doesn't work. Consider it another tool. You got this man!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 17, 2013, 12:09:00 AM
You doing alright man?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 17, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
Doing fantastic Deisel, thanks for asking.

Amazing how much change a week can bring. Last weekend I was crying like a bitch about how bad I wanted to cave. Today, dip is the last thing I could want. I have had no desire for it the last 2-3 days. I am sure there are still plenty of rough days to come but right now just the thought of tobacco sickens me. I am so angry that I became such a slave to that can. I have no idea how that shit took such a grip over my life. I thought I was a bad ass, but it turns out that I was a weakling. Controlled by a wintergreen can of fucking dirt. I would give anything to relive those years without chew.

Dipped since I was 15 and am now almost 38. The last 8-10 years was very heavy use. I hope the damage I have done to my body does not come back to haunt me. I hope the bad example I set for my sons does not come back to haunt me. I cannot believe I coached my sons sports teams and dipped in front of those children. What a wretched fuck I was.

I guess we cannot change the past. But I am pretty optimistic about the future. I think I am gonna figure how to carry on without it. Things are still weird, but they are better. I am begining to see that.

Going on a weekend trip with the family next weekend. It will be the first trip ever that the fucking can and a spit bottle is not going with me. WHAT FREEDOM!! I can be with the kids the whole time, no sneaking away, no dip in the truck on the way there, swim in the pool without a dip. I can't wait.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on January 17, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Doing fantastic Deisel, thanks for asking.

Amazing how much change a week can bring. Last weekend I was crying like a bitch about how bad I wanted to cave. Today, dip is the last thing I could want. I have had no desire for it the last 2-3 days. I am sure there are still plenty of rough days to come but right now just the thought of tobacco sickens me. I am so angry that I became such a slave to that can. I have no idea how that shit took such a grip over my life. I thought I was a bad ass, but it turns out that I was a weakling. Controlled by a wintergreen can of fucking dirt. I would give anything to relive those years without chew.

Dipped since I was 15 and am now almost 38. The last 8-10 years was very heavy use. I hope the damage I have done to my body does not come back to haunt me. I hope the bad example I set for my sons does not come back to haunt me. I cannot believe I coached my sons sports teams and dipped in front of those children. What a wretched fuck I was.

I guess we cannot change the past. But I am pretty optimistic about the future. I think I am gonna figure how to carry on without it. Things are still weird, but they are better. I am begining to see that.

Going on a weekend trip with the family next weekend. It will be the first trip ever that the fucking can and a spit bottle is not going with me. WHAT FREEDOM!! I can be with the kids the whole time, no sneaking away, no dip in the truck on the way there, swim in the pool without a dip. I can't wait.
Wow the coaching comment hits home here too, was in the same position.

And like you, though it took a little longer, there was a time in my quit where I began to get totally disgusted at the site of others doing it as well as the thought of me doing it ever again.

Well done, keep being strong, I feel the corner has been turned, and never again for any reason.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: rickddd on January 17, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
You sound like you're doing great, Ryan, nice work! Have a great time on the family trip next week.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 17, 2013, 11:36:00 PM
Good to hear. Keep your guard up and continue with the positive attitude.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 19, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
UUUHHGGG!!! Craves suck ass. Weekends blow, never in my life would I look forward to getting the weekend over with and going to work on Monday. But it is so much easier M-F.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 19, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
UUUHHGGG!!! Craves suck ass. Weekends blow, never in my life would I look forward to getting the weekend over with and going to work on Monday. But it is so much easier M-F.
1 hour at a time if you have to! They get weaker and less frequent! Remember, how bad the suck is it will work in your favor later when your thinking "just one". Who in their right mind would want to go through that again? NOT ME!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 19, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
WT is right. Grind it out, hour by hour...minute by minute if you have to. Try to stay busy. Do some jumping jacks, read a book, breat your meat. Whatever it takes to keep that shit out your mouth. Any day you make it with no dip is a huge victory. Keep winning bro, its not always easy but its always worth it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 20, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
Thanks for the + feedback guys. This shit is my lifeline, I get lost in the reading and boom a whole day goes by.

Arguing with the wife all day does little to help my cause. I am raging pissed and on many days of old this was plenty enough stress to send me to the store and blow a quit. Even if the midst of rage, I smile secretly to myself, and think, "not this time", "not today", "this quit is mine", "I will guard it with my life". At the end of the day though, I cant help but wonder if I will be a lonely, brokedown, divorced, quit motha fucker?? Only time will tell? At least I will be alive, and at least I wont be a slave to the can. I wouldn't blame her if she left, hell I would, I have been miserable to be around for 20 days. (Probably much longer than that?)

Later all, stay the course!!

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on January 20, 2013, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for the + feedback guys.  This shit is my lifeline, I get lost in the reading and boom a whole day goes by. 

Arguing with the wife all day does little to help my cause.  I am raging pissed and on many days of old this was plenty enough stress to send me to the store and blow a quit.  Even if the midst of rage, I smile secretly to myself, and think, "not this time", "not today", "this quit is mine", "I will guard it with my life".  At the end of the day though, I cant help but wonder if I will be a lonely, brokedown, divorced, quit motha fucker??  Only time will tell?  At least I will be alive, and at least I wont be a slave to the can.  I wouldn't blame her if she left, hell I would, I have been miserable to be around for 20 days. (Probably much longer than that?)

Later all, stay the course!!

Ryan
http://www.killthecan.org/robs/anger.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/anger.asp)

What are you doing to feel better? exercise? diet? Hookers? you need an outlet. Don't take shit out on her. She isn't the one that got you started dipping, this shit isn't her fault. It is yours. Fighting is a way to get some adrenaline pumping into your body. It is a sneaky way for your brain to get a chemical fix, that used to be provided by nic.

Don't be shocked if in the heat of battle she tells you to go get a dip. Mine did, and I have read that scenario here a dozen times. This is not an acceptable reason to cave, so don't even think about it. In any case buy her some flowers and say your sorry for being a dumbass and try to patient with her. I guarantee she doesn't understand the full scope of what your dealing with.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 21, 2013, 06:24:00 AM
Never would have thought day 20 would be harder than day 4. Not sure how long 3-4 hours of sleep can cut it. Gained 10# in 3 weeks, full blown depression setting in, cant deny it. I am NOT interesting in going to a doctor again, advice during the last quit was, "all things in moderation". They have no fucking clue what addiction is like. Yeah let me moderate my tobacco use. I believed that one for the last 8 of my 20 years. Not buying that any longer.

Toughing it out one day a time. Time to post roll.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 21, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
Ryan try some melatonin for sleep and there will be time for taking the weight off later. Just concentrate on the nicotine one day at a time for now. I know everyone keeps saying it will get better! I understand that you want it better NOW! Remember how long it took you to get to this point, I broke my addiction down to days. My 296 days today is nothing when I compare it to 14,000+ days of feeding my addiction. I'm always ready to help. BTW 3 weeks is huge, congratulations.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on January 21, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Never would have thought day 20 would be harder than day 4. Not sure how long 3-4 hours of sleep can cut it. Gained 10# in 3 weeks, full blown depression setting in, cant deny it. I am NOT interesting in going to a doctor again, advice during the last quit was, "all things in moderation". They have no fucking clue what addiction is like. Yeah let me moderate my tobacco use. I believed that one for the last 8 of my 20 years. Not buying that any longer.

Toughing it out one day a time. Time to post roll.

Ryan
there's a fog in the 20's. be vigilant and know evil shall pass. You're getting real close to noticing a big difference. I had a fog in the 30's too, but after that I started noticing a change. I gained weight as well, but not that much because I offset it with tons of exercise, and it will make you tired, thus sleep.. it saved my ass in many ways.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: boomtho on January 21, 2013, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Never would have thought day 20 would be harder than day 4. Not sure how long 3-4 hours of sleep can cut it. Gained 10# in 3 weeks, full blown depression setting in, cant deny it. I am NOT interesting in going to a doctor again, advice during the last quit was, "all things in moderation". They have no fucking clue what addiction is like. Yeah let me moderate my tobacco use. I believed that one for the last 8 of my 20 years. Not buying that any longer.

Toughing it out one day a time. Time to post roll.

Ryan
Have you been hitting the gym? I mean, it's good for obvious reasons but so far it's the best thing for taking my mind off of things and driving my focus elsewhere. The feeling I get when I finish a solid workout is a better rush than anything I could pack in my lip.

I found that I was eating way more the first week of my quit, basically anytime I would have dipped I ate something instead. I still do that, but I swapped all the junk food for healthy food (after all, a big dude like me still needs around 3000 calories a day).

The quit's already a positive, make it an even bigger one. Even just get up and walk around every time you get a craving. I've got some pretty good workouts I could send your way.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 21, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
Got2.

Like in top gun when Mav was struggling, his boss advised to get him flying as soon as possible.

You sir need to get laughing. You are doing what you need to do but it is time to laugh a little. Laughing does something to ease the pain.

Hell yes it hurts but if you were like me and stay strong in your quit and win your match, you will be so glad you did.

I don't know your sense of humor but I was looking a my junk today. It looks like a 747. The fussel lodge is big but I have little tiny landing gear.

Go Read Dag or SWJ posts. Watch a movie Nothing to lose or something like Tommy boy where you don't have to think but you can just laugh.

How about this....

This is what it feels like (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbwPm-BgkvE)

Lord Jesus its a fire! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udS-OcNtSWo)

Family Feud (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPaEztBuY-8)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 21, 2013, 09:22:00 PM
You guys are so right. Thanks for the support. I do need an outlet, exercise is probably the key. Winter sucks!! I used to have some good exercise habits but anymore I work long hours 7am-7pm, get home and get 3 kids in bed, shit I barely have energy to eat dinner, LOL. Cant wait to get on the mountain bike again when winter is over. In the meantime I will try to get my ass to the gym.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 21, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
You guys are so right. Thanks for the support. I do need an outlet, exercise is probably the key. Winter sucks!! I used to have some good exercise habits but anymore I work long hours 7am-7pm, get home and get 3 kids in bed, shit I barely have energy to eat dinner, LOL. Cant wait to get on the mountain bike again when winter is over. In the meantime I will try to get my ass to the gym.
Knock out some sit ups or push ups in front of the TV. Personally I used to do jumping jacks like a mother fucker when I was full to the brim with anxiety. Your body is in fight or fligh mode. Excersise wlill help. Read this:

Physical exercise can also turn down the activity of an overactive fight or flight response

Perhaps the simplest, best way to turn down the activity of our fight or flight response is by physical exercise. Remember that the natural conclusion of fight or flight is vigorous physical activity. When we exercise, we metabolize excessive stress hormones—restoring our body and mind to a calmer, more relaxed state.

For the purpose of stress reduction and counteracting the fight or flight response, we do not need to exercise for 30 to 40 minutes. Any form of activity where we "work up a sweat" for five minutes will effectively metabolize off—and prevent the excessive buildup of—stress hormones. Get down and do 50 pushups, 50 sit-ups, jumping jacks, jump rope, run in place, run up and down the stairs, whatever. By exercising to the point of sweating, we effectively counteract the ill effects of the fight of flight response, drawing it to its natural conclusion.

Sometimes when IÂ’m upset,I close the door to my office, do 25 quick pushups, work up a light sweat, and return to work, clearer and calmer. Frequent repetitions of short exercise are easy to fit into our busy schedules. For full cardiovascular fitness, longer periods of exercise do have additional benefits, but for the purpose of stress reduction, mini-exercise sessions are practical, effective and beneficial.

Exercise increases our natural endorphins, which help us to feel better. When we feel good, our thoughts are clearer, our positive beliefs are more accessible and our perceptions are more open. When we feel tired and physically run down, we tend to focus on what’s not working in our lives—similar to a cranky child needing a nap. It is difficult to be, feel or think positive when we are exhausted, sleep deprived or physically out of condition.

Here's a link to more if you're interested ....

http://www.thebodysoulconnection.com/Ed ... fight.html (http://www.thebodysoulconnection.com/EducationCenter/fight.html)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 23, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
I have a calmness today that I have not felt in a long while. Today I am not a slave to this addiction. I am still an addict and must not forget that, but I am not owned and controlled by a can. I am in control of my actions and decisions and today I choose QUIT. Seeing all these day 1 quitters inspires me to march onward. Life with freedom is greater than life in bondage.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on January 23, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have a calmness today that I have not felt in a long while. Today I am not a slave to this addiction. I am still an addict and must not forget that, but I am not owned and controlled by a can. I am in control of my actions and decisions and today I choose QUIT. Seeing all these day 1 quitters inspires me to march onward. Life with freedom is greater than life in bondage.
When times are good, we practice for those inevitable bad times.

When times are bad, we react and we lean on what we've practiced and learned.

Great attitude. I'm very proud of you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on January 23, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have a calmness today that I have not felt in a long while. Today I am not a slave to this addiction. I am still an addict and must not forget that, but I am not owned and controlled by a can.  I am in control of my actions and decisions and today I choose QUIT. Seeing all these day 1 quitters inspires me to march onward.  Life with freedom is greater than life in bondage.
When times are good, we practice for those inevitable bad times.

When times are bad, we react and we lean on what we've practiced and learned.

Great attitude. I'm very proud of you.
:wub: this post. Good job
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 23, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have a calmness today that I have not felt in a long while. Today I am not a slave to this addiction. I am still an addict and must not forget that, but I am not owned and controlled by a can.   I am in control of my actions and decisions and today I choose QUIT. Seeing all these day 1 quitters inspires me to march onward.  Life with freedom is greater than life in bondage.
When times are good, we practice for those inevitable bad times.

When times are bad, we react and we lean on what we've practiced and learned.

Great attitude. I'm very proud of you.
:wub: this post. Good job
'Popcorn'

Good quit going on. Going to love to watch the growth through good and bad times. I'm betting this one is in it to win. Makes me so happy to see this. Today is a good quit day.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 23, 2013, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have a calmness today that I have not felt in a long while. Today I am not a slave to this addiction. I am still an addict and must not forget that, but I am not owned and controlled by a can. I am in control of my actions and decisions and today I choose QUIT. Seeing all these day 1 quitters inspires me to march onward. Life with freedom is greater than life in bondage.
Keep your guard up and keep on rolling. Good work.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 25, 2013, 12:13:00 PM
Well it appears I can drink again......as long as I have a big wad of shredded jerkey to suck on. I never felt compelled to try the fake dip shit but I dig this jerky. Felt good to have a few IPAs last night but damn it did provoke some craves.

I survived but definitely need to proceed cautiously.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on January 25, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Well it appears I can drink again......as long as I have a big wad of shredded jerkey to suck on. I never felt compelled to try the fake dip shit but I dig this jerky. Felt good to have a few IPAs last night but damn it did provoke some craves.

I survived but definitely need to proceed cautiously.
I warn you, Icarus, to fly a middle course
Don't go too low or the water will weigh down your wings.
Don't go too high or the sun will burn them
Keep to the middle way. And one more thing:
No fancy steering by star or constellation.
Follow (our) lead!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 26, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Well it appears I can drink again......as long as I have a big wad of shredded jerkey to suck on.  I never felt compelled to try the fake dip shit but I dig this jerky. Felt good to have a few IPAs last night but damn it did provoke some craves.

I survived but definitely need to proceed cautiously.
I warn you, Icarus, to fly a middle course
Don't go too low or the water will weigh down your wings.
Don't go too high or the sun will burn them
Keep to the middle way. And one more thing:
No fancy steering by star or constellation.
Follow (our) lead!
I approve this message!!!!!

Vets have never lead me astray. They never lead me astray.

If Wastepanel comments to you, Know that he believes in you and that you are worth his time.

Stay worth his time by following orders. He knows his shit. He knows agony and perfect victory.

Listen and follow. Period!!!!

We are all rooting for you! We believe in you but you have a lot to learn as well.

Keep your head up and nose down. You are still a novice. #1 are you calling for support when you are in a fight? I worry that you think it is a bad ass to fight on your own and resist evil. Early on, just make a call out for help. See how much stronger you are with a team to call.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 26, 2013, 11:39:00 AM
I was physically addicted to a substance and 100% brainwashed about what I thought it did for me. Physically and mentally entangled, trapped and hopeless.
Guess what quit brothers, I am not ruled by a tin can full of shit any longer. I quit. That fucking garbage is out of my life forever.

When I look back at this thread I am embarrassed at the credit I gave nicotine. I don't want to glorify nicotine any longer and talk like life with nicotine was so great. What I realize today is that IT NEVER WAS. And things that were in fact great, did not have a damn motherfucking thing to do with a wad of cancer balled up in my lip.

I thank all of you for your support, comments, advice, etc. And most of all for sharing your experiences. Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 26, 2013, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I was physically addicted to a substance and 100% brainwashed about what I thought it did for me.  Physically and mentally entangled, trapped and hopeless.
Guess what quit brothers, I am not ruled by a tin can full of shit any longer.  I quit.  That fucking garbage is out of my life forever. 

When I look back at this thread I am embarrassed at the credit I gave nicotine.  I don't want to glorify nicotine any longer and talk like life with nicotine was so great.  What I realize today is that IT NEVER WAS.  And things that were in fact great, did not have a damn motherfucking thing to do with a wad of cancer balled up in my lip.

I thank all of you for your support, comments, advice, etc.  And most of all for sharing your experiences.  Ryan
True dat, yo. Building some hate. I like it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 26, 2013, 04:26:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I was physically addicted to a substance and 100% brainwashed about what I thought it did for me. Physically and mentally entangled, trapped and hopeless.
Guess what quit brothers, I am not ruled by a tin can full of shit any longer. I quit. That fucking garbage is out of my life forever.

When I look back at this thread I am embarrassed at the credit I gave nicotine. I don't want to glorify nicotine any longer and talk like life with nicotine was so great. What I realize today is that IT NEVER WAS. And things that were in fact great, did not have a damn motherfucking thing to do with a wad of cancer balled up in my lip.

I thank all of you for your support, comments, advice, etc. And most of all for sharing your experiences. Ryan
Yeah Deisel, I guess I am pissed. More sick and disgusted really. 20+ years I gave to this nic bitch, lying whore addiction. I have directed alot of the anger upon myself lately and even before my quit, but I dont think that is healthy.

Reading alot about the industry and how much they direct marketing to kids. I got started at 12 or 13, when me a buddy used to fill out the card in magazines and get the shit mailed to us. Hawken wintergreen. That was some nasty puke shit. But for reason I always had a can. 1 can used to last a week or more, but we all know how that goes. Some CEO should be locked up for that shit. Actually no, I'd say its more of a capital offense, send in the fucking firing squad. And what about the fucking greedy shlep that sold us cans when they damn well knew were not 18. I would like to pound their heads into the pavement too.

Not sure if getting pissed has alot of value at this point. I guess I will use the anger to keep me quit. Peace all. Keep quitting.

Ryan IG2H
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on January 26, 2013, 04:58:00 PM
That fire and hatred will help keep you quit. One warning for now avoid making long term proclamations, concentrate on today. I understand that desire to scream, kick and curse nicotine. For myself and many others the days came that thinking past today became a near-cave experience! Concentrating on today is ALWAYS possible!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 26, 2013, 07:30:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
That fire and hatred will help keep you quit. One warning for now avoid making long term proclamations, concentrate on today. I understand that desire to scream, kick and curse nicotine. For myself and many others the days came that thinking past today became a near-cave experience! Concentrating on today is ALWAYS possible!
I hear ya WT57. and I know that is probably how I should be thinking.

But I quit man and I feel the need to shout it from the roof top sometimes? Isn't there some strength in a proclamation? I do have my guard up bro. Trust me. But I find it to be a bit of a dichotomy to say I quit for today, and not be able to say it with a finality. To me, that has been the strength of my quit. It is the forever affirmations that make THIS different than any other attempt I have ever made. These are the principles and phrases that made me know it was possible this time.

"N.A.F.A.R."
"Shut the door"
Yoda, "do or not do, no try"
"Caving is NOT an option."
etc, I could go on and on.

Not only possible, but simple. Freedom became a just a decision and it was mine for the taking.

I guess maybe all you are saying is ......... each day is new. And that "decision" must be made, not once, but everyday. OK, I got ya.

Or maybe your saying, just shut the hell up newbie and get a couple of months under your belt. Whichever it is, please know that every once of input is appreciated. I read it, hear, reflect upon it and integrate it if it makes sense.

Thanks again for all your responses. I am damn proup to be quit with you WT57.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 30, 2013, 08:19:00 PM
I have been texting back and forth with my spring fishing buddy all day. Weve been walleye fishing and dipping together for several years. I have been worried about getting back together with him since I no longer dip. Turns out he is miserable and wants to quit too, but thinks he cant.

I don't want to push my quit on him. I know he's got to want it. I am just hoping to plant a seed. I just sent him an email (below), what do you think? Probably should just leave it alone now and let him reach out if he wants to.

"Here is it, man, (the allen Carr book). Good luck man. I am here to support you. You can support me too. I am only 30 days ahead of you. I have bad news for you about the cutting down method.....it really doesn't work. I have done it 100 times. Its a good start, but when your ready, you gotta go all out, balls to the fucking wall, throw the shit out, declare NEVER AGAIN and suck it up. The withdrawal is really, really shitty. But the good news is...............you do it only once. Then you move on with your life, one day at a time. You can do this man, you are a fucking bad ass, and that is exactly what this takes.

The cool thing about this book is that the author says, go ahead and keep using until after you finish the book. I am not sure I suggest that but thats what he says. I suggest you take a look it. Also that website I told you about is unbelievable. Major, major support on there. Without the support I do not think it would be possible. www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) Check it out man, just read all you can on there and you will begin to see that you dont need this shit. It WILL fucking kill you.

Keep me posted brotha. Chew or no chew, we gonna get on the river this spring. If you decide not to quit, just dont offer me any. I broke outta prison 30 days ago, I am walking back into my cell for nothing.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on January 30, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been texting back and forth with my spring fishing buddy all day. Weve been walleye fishing and dipping together for several years. I have been worried about getting back together with him since I no longer dip. Turns out he is miserable and wants to quit too, but thinks he cant.

I don't want to push my quit on him. I know he's got to want it. I am just hoping to plant a seed. I just sent him an email (below), what do you think? Probably should just leave it alone now and let him reach out if he wants to.

"Here is it, man, (the allen Carr book). Good luck man. I am here to support you. You can support me too. I am only 30 days ahead of you. I have bad news for you about the cutting down method.....it really doesn't work. I have done it 100 times. Its a good start, but when your ready, you gotta go all out, balls to the fucking wall, throw the shit out, declare NEVER AGAIN and suck it up. The withdrawal is really, really shitty. But the good news is...............you do it only once. Then you move on with your life, one day at a time. You can do this man, you are a fucking bad ass, and that is exactly what this takes.

The cool thing about this book is that the author says, go ahead and keep using until after you finish the book. I am not sure I suggest that but thats what he says. I suggest you take a look it. Also that website I told you about is unbelievable. Major, major support on there. Without the support I do not think it would be possible. www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) Check it out man, just read all you can on there and you will begin to see that you dont need this shit. It WILL fucking kill you.

Keep me posted brotha. Chew or no chew, we gonna get on the river this spring. If you decide not to quit, just dont offer me any. I broke outta prison 30 days ago, I am walking back into my cell for nothing.

Ryan
Amen
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jhaenel23 on January 30, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been texting back and forth with my spring fishing buddy all day.  Weve been walleye fishing and dipping together for several years.  I have been worried about getting back together with him since I no longer dip.  Turns out he is miserable and wants to quit too, but thinks he cant. 

I don't want to push my quit on him.  I know he's got to want it.  I am just hoping to plant a seed.  I just sent him an email (below), what do you think?  Probably should just leave it alone now and let him reach out if he wants to. 

"Here is it, man, (the allen Carr book).  Good luck man.  I am here to support you.  You can support me too.  I am only 30 days ahead of you.  I have bad news for you about the cutting down method.....it really doesn't work.  I have done it 100 times.  Its a good start, but when your ready, you gotta go all out, balls to the fucking wall, throw the shit out, declare NEVER AGAIN and suck it up.  The withdrawal is really, really shitty.  But the good news is...............you do it only once.  Then you move on with your life, one day at a time.  You can do this man, you are a fucking bad ass, and that is exactly what this takes. 

The cool thing about this book is that the author says, go ahead and keep using until after you finish the book.  I am not sure I suggest that but thats what he says.  I suggest you take a look it.  Also that website I told you about is unbelievable.  Major, major support on there.  Without the support I do not think it would be possible.  www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org)  Check it out man, just read all you can on there and you will begin to see that you dont need this shit.  It WILL fucking kill you. 

Keep me posted brotha.  Chew or no chew, we gonna get on the river this spring.  If you decide not to quit, just dont offer me any.  I broke outta prison 30 days ago, I am walking back into my cell for nothing. 

Ryan
Amen
Well put brother! He had to quit for him!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 31, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Wow, there has been a lot of negative shit on here lately. Starting to see what people mean in saying, "take what you need from the site and leave the rest".

Day 31 one for me today, getting better everyday. I still cannot believe how hard the first 2 weeks were. But on the other hand, if I had any inkling that I could actually do it, I would have done it a long time ago.

I hate seeing people sign up and then drop off. Wish they could only see how possible this is, and how great it is. It has been a great ride so far. I have met quitters from all around the country and they are some damn fine people. I am happy to be quit with you all.

Peace, Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Kubrick on January 31, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been texting back and forth with my spring fishing buddy all day. Weve been walleye fishing and dipping together for several years. I have been worried about getting back together with him since I no longer dip. Turns out he is miserable and wants to quit too, but thinks he cant.

I don't want to push my quit on him. I know he's got to want it. I am just hoping to plant a seed. I just sent him an email (below), what do you think? Probably should just leave it alone now and let him reach out if he wants to.

"Here is it, man, (the allen Carr book). Good luck man. I am here to support you. You can support me too. I am only 30 days ahead of you. I have bad news for you about the cutting down method.....it really doesn't work. I have done it 100 times. Its a good start, but when your ready, you gotta go all out, balls to the fucking wall, throw the shit out, declare NEVER AGAIN and suck it up. The withdrawal is really, really shitty. But the good news is...............you do it only once. Then you move on with your life, one day at a time. You can do this man, you are a fucking bad ass, and that is exactly what this takes.

The cool thing about this book is that the author says, go ahead and keep using until after you finish the book. I am not sure I suggest that but thats what he says. I suggest you take a look it. Also that website I told you about is unbelievable. Major, major support on there. Without the support I do not think it would be possible. www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) Check it out man, just read all you can on there and you will begin to see that you dont need this shit. It WILL fucking kill you.

Keep me posted brotha. Chew or no chew, we gonna get on the river this spring. If you decide not to quit, just dont offer me any. I broke outta prison 30 days ago, I am walking back into my cell for nothing.

Ryan
'worship' 'wave' 'party' 'oh yeah' 'dance' 'party2' 'clap' :Winner:
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 31, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Wow, there has been a lot of negative shit on here lately. Starting to see what people mean in saying, "take what you need from the site and leave the rest".

Day 31 one for me today, getting better everyday. I still cannot believe how hard the first 2 weeks were. But on the other hand, if I had any inkling that I could actually do it, I would have done it a long time ago.

I hate seeing people sign up and then drop off. Wish they could only see how possible this is, and how great it is. It has been a great ride so far. I have met quitters from all around the country and they are some damn fine people. I am happy to be quit with you all.

Peace, Ryan
Don't let the negative shit get to you. Its gonna happen. Just focus on you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 30isEnuff on February 01, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Wow, there has been a lot of negative shit on here lately.  Starting to see what people mean in saying, "take what you need from the site and leave the rest". 

Day 31 one for me today, getting better everyday.  I still cannot believe how hard the first 2 weeks were.  But on the other hand, if I had any inkling that I could actually do it, I would have done it a long time ago.

I hate seeing people sign up and then drop off.  Wish they could only see how possible this is, and how great it is.  It has been a great ride so far.  I have met quitters from all around the country and they are some damn fine people.  I am happy to be quit with you all.

Peace, Ryan
Don't let the negative shit get to you. Its gonna happen. Just focus on you.
hey Ryan,

NAFAR
Never again for any reason!
Your quit is rock hard! 'bang head'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 01, 2013, 09:07:00 PM
Holy crap. Day 32. I thought I was over the hump and past the worst of it. Nope!! Out of nowhere I get clobbered with an enormous "screw it" crave.

Out and about by myself, I stop for gas on the way to pick up a pizza. While pumping gas I suddenly had a powerful desire to have a dip. I nearly went on autopilot and went in for a can. It was almost like I didnt even want to let myself think about it, I just wanted to hurry up and get it, and do it before I could talk myself out of it.

This was my first real crave since "the fog". The other "craves" have really just been passing thoughts. Thoughts that I have chosen not to entertain. I usually just acknowledge them for what they are and carry on with my day. This was brutal, true NIC bitch lies, "screw it", "who cares", "just pack one and pitch it". All that shit went threw my head in a flash.

That gas could not pump fast enough. Well, I got the hell out of there unscathed but wow I scared myself. Didnt realize that I could be that close to throwing away a month of quit. Probably a healthy wake up call. I still havent even been put to the test of, "hey you want a dip", or any of the other easy cave scenarios.

I am thankful for 2 members of this site today. With the help of a timely text from a bad ass quitter from Abilene and a brief phone chat with a new friend from upstate NY, I think I pulled my head out of my ass. Thanks bros!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on February 01, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy crap. Day 32. I thought I was over the hump and past the worst of it. Nope!! Out of nowhere I get clobbered with an enormous "screw it" crave.

Out and about by myself, I stop for gas on the way to pick up a pizza. While pumping gas I suddenly had a powerful desire to have a dip. I nearly went on autopilot and went in for a can. It was almost like I didnt even want to let myself think about it, I just wanted to hurry up and get it, and do it before I could talk myself out of it.

This was my first real crave since "the fog". The other "craves" have really just been passing thoughts. Thoughts that I have chosen not to entertain. I usually just acknowledge them for what they are and carry on with my day. This was brutal, true NIC bitch lies, "screw it", "who cares", "just pack one and pitch it". All that shit went threw my head in a flash.

That gas could not pump fast enough. Well, I got the hell out of there unscathed but wow I scared myself. Didnt realize that I could be that close to throwing away a month of quit. Probably a healthy wake up call. I still havent even been put to the test of, "hey you want a dip", or any of the other easy cave scenarios.

I am thankful for 2 members of this site today. With the help of a timely text from a bad ass quitter from Abilene and a brief phone chat with a new friend from upstate NY, I think I pulled my head out of my ass. Thanks bros!!
You've got it! That is exactly how you should handle a crave! Always have those numbers close by and call out for help.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 01, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy crap. Day 32. I thought I was over the hump and past the worst of it. Nope!! Out of nowhere I get clobbered with an enormous "screw it" crave.

Out and about by myself, I stop for gas on the way to pick up a pizza. While pumping gas I suddenly had a powerful desire to have a dip. I nearly went on autopilot and went in for a can. It was almost like I didnt even want to let myself think about it, I just wanted to hurry up and get it, and do it before I could talk myself out of it.

This was my first real crave since "the fog". The other "craves" have really just been passing thoughts. Thoughts that I have chosen not to entertain. I usually just acknowledge them for what they are and carry on with my day. This was brutal, true NIC bitch lies, "screw it", "who cares", "just pack one and pitch it". All that shit went threw my head in a flash.

That gas could not pump fast enough. Well, I got the hell out of there unscathed but wow I scared myself. Didnt realize that I could be that close to throwing away a month of quit. Probably a healthy wake up call. I still havent even been put to the test of, "hey you want a dip", or any of the other easy cave scenarios.

I am thankful for 2 members of this site today. With the help of a timely text from a bad ass quitter from Abilene and a brief phone chat with a new friend from upstate NY, I think I pulled my head out of my ass. Thanks bros!!
32 days is strong but "the hump" is still casting a shadow on you. Way to handle the crave. Learn from it, put it in your quit box...you will surely need it again. And yes, I just called you Shirley.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: cdaniels on February 01, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy crap.  Day 32.  I thought I was over the hump and past the worst of it.  Nope!!  Out of nowhere I get clobbered with an enormous "screw it" crave. 

Out and about by myself, I stop for gas on the way to pick up a pizza.  While pumping gas I suddenly had a powerful desire to have a dip.  I nearly went on autopilot and went in for a can.  It was almost like I didnt even want to let myself think about it, I just wanted to hurry up and get it, and do it before I could talk myself out of it. 

This was my first real crave since "the fog".  The other "craves" have really just been passing thoughts.  Thoughts that I have chosen not to entertain.  I usually just acknowledge them for what they are and carry on with my day.  This was brutal, true NIC bitch lies, "screw it", "who cares", "just pack one and pitch it".  All that shit went threw my head in a flash.

That gas could not pump fast enough.  Well, I got the hell out of there unscathed but wow I scared myself.  Didnt realize that I could be that close to throwing away a month of quit.  Probably a healthy wake up call.  I still havent even been put to the test of, "hey you want a dip", or any of the other easy cave scenarios.

I am thankful for 2 members of this site today.  With the help of a timely text from a bad ass quitter from Abilene and a brief phone chat with a new friend from upstate NY, I think I pulled my head out of my ass.  Thanks bros!!
32 days is strong but "the hump" is still casting a shadow on you. Way to handle the crave. Learn from it, put it in your quit box...you will surely need it again. And yes, I just called you Shirley.
your welcome hang tough my friend
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on February 01, 2013, 10:36:00 PM
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy crap.  Day 32.  I thought I was over the hump and past the worst of it.  Nope!!  Out of nowhere I get clobbered with an enormous "screw it" crave. 

Out and about by myself, I stop for gas on the way to pick up a pizza.  While pumping gas I suddenly had a powerful desire to have a dip.  I nearly went on autopilot and went in for a can.  It was almost like I didnt even want to let myself think about it, I just wanted to hurry up and get it, and do it before I could talk myself out of it. 

This was my first real crave since "the fog".  The other "craves" have really just been passing thoughts.  Thoughts that I have chosen not to entertain.  I usually just acknowledge them for what they are and carry on with my day.  This was brutal, true NIC bitch lies, "screw it", "who cares", "just pack one and pitch it".  All that shit went threw my head in a flash.

That gas could not pump fast enough.  Well, I got the hell out of there unscathed but wow I scared myself.  Didnt realize that I could be that close to throwing away a month of quit.  Probably a healthy wake up call.  I still havent even been put to the test of, "hey you want a dip", or any of the other easy cave scenarios.

I am thankful for 2 members of this site today.  With the help of a timely text from a bad ass quitter from Abilene and a brief phone chat with a new friend from upstate NY, I think I pulled my head out of my ass.  Thanks bros!!
32 days is strong but "the hump" is still casting a shadow on you. Way to handle the crave. Learn from it, put it in your quit box...you will surely need it again. And yes, I just called you Shirley.
your welcome hang tough my friend
the screw it cave and spite cave are the most evil of enemies that will always be a battle forever. the movie cave, drive cave, after sex cave, hunting cave, drunk cave...etc, etc, etc, etc....are all easy

but the screw it cave and spite cave are the Nic Bitches secret weapon
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 30isEnuff on February 01, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy crap.  Day 32.  I thought I was over the hump and past the worst of it.  Nope!!  Out of nowhere I get clobbered with an enormous "screw it" crave. 

Out and about by myself, I stop for gas on the way to pick up a pizza.  While pumping gas I suddenly had a powerful desire to have a dip.  I nearly went on autopilot and went in for a can.  It was almost like I didnt even want to let myself think about it, I just wanted to hurry up and get it, and do it before I could talk myself out of it. 

This was my first real crave since "the fog".  The other "craves" have really just been passing thoughts.  Thoughts that I have chosen not to entertain.  I usually just acknowledge them for what they are and carry on with my day.  This was brutal, true NIC bitch lies, "screw it", "who cares", "just pack one and pitch it".  All that shit went threw my head in a flash.

That gas could not pump fast enough.  Well, I got the hell out of there unscathed but wow I scared myself.  Didnt realize that I could be that close to throwing away a month of quit.  Probably a healthy wake up call.  I still havent even been put to the test of, "hey you want a dip", or any of the other easy cave scenarios.

I am thankful for 2 members of this site today.  With the help of a timely text from a bad ass quitter from Abilene and a brief phone chat with a new friend from upstate NY, I think I pulled my head out of my ass.  Thanks bros!!
32 days is strong but "the hump" is still casting a shadow on you. Way to handle the crave. Learn from it, put it in your quit box...you will surely need it again. And yes, I just called you Shirley.
your welcome hang tough my friend
the screw it cave and spite cave are the most evil of enemies that will always be a battle forever. the movie cave, drive cave, after sex cave, hunting cave, drunk cave...etc, etc, etc, etc....are all easy

but the screw it cave and spite cave are the Nic Bitches secret weapon
When my Quit saviors called me on the phone on day 1 (mikeA  DennyX) and I cried like a baby that it is sooooo hard. MikeA knew I was referring to "triggers".
He told me something that I can still hear now like he said it 253 days ago.
He said, "Don't worry about the triggers, because LIFE is a TRIGGER"!!!!
That one encouring line on my day 1 has helped to keep my Quit Woodie very hard! Each day we Decide, beat the trigger/crave, add it to your arsenal, realize that you're a winning addict and it'll pass. Need help getting past a crave: like cbird says: open the desk drawer, place penis in drawer and slam very hard. no more crave!
Keep up the good work Its_Got2Happen! You got this: One day at a time. One hour or minute at a time. keep your word, wake and repeat and your days will stack up nicely before you even know what happened.
Cheers! 'bang head'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 02, 2013, 03:24:00 PM
Took the kids sledding for the 1st time without a dip. It was so nice to not have to look for a place to spit, or have a bottle in my coat pocket.

This year is gonna bring alot of "firsts" for me. There are hundreds of things i used to always do with dip. Now I am gonna figure out how to live, and do all those things without it. I am looking forward to crossing each one of them off my list:

cut the lawn
wash the truck
take the boat out
change my oil
camping
bonfires
fishing
hanging tree stands
hunting
golf
long drives
go out drinking
on vacation
etc

These are the things that kept me from quitting for so long. But it was all a bullshit lie, I never needed nicotine for any of those, I was just hooked on it and I was brainwashed into thinking I did. Screw that, no more. Time to heal man. I have been a slave to that shit since I was 12. I am never going back. I will follow this KTC plan and quit everyday. Keeping my eyes on the prize...................a life free from the deadly grip of nicotine.

Just came across an awesome words of wisdom quote. Dont know why I stick it here now, but I just want to be able to find it again. Wow, this is a good one.

index.php?showtopic=3548 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3548)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 30isEnuff on February 02, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Took the kids sledding for the 1st time without a dip. It was so nice to not have to look for a place to spit, or have a bottle in my coat pocket.

This year is gonna bring alot of "firsts" for me. There are hundreds of things i used to always do with dip. Now I am gonna figure out how to live, and do all those things without it. I am looking forward to crossing each one of them off my list:

cut the lawn
wash the truck
take the boat out
change my oil
camping
bonfires
fishing
hanging tree stands
hunting
golf
long drives
go out drinking
on vacation
etc

These are the things that kept me from quitting for so long. But it was all a bullshit lie, I never needed nicotine for any of those, I was just hooked on it and I was brainwashed into thinking I did. Screw that, no more. Time to heal man. I have been a slave to that shit since I was 12. I am never going back. I will follow this KTC plan and quit everyday. Keeping my eyes on the prize...................a life free from the deadly grip of nicotine.
Great stuff Its_Got2Happen!
I'll quit with you any day that ends with a "y".
Cheers. 'clap' 'clap'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 05, 2013, 06:55:00 AM
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on February 05, 2013, 07:12:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
You are going to have down days. It's ok. To feel that way.

Go ahead and take a look down at you last post you made a couple of days ago. Plenty of good reasons listed there, and there'!s of reasons more as well. You see, these "bad" days seem so bad because our bodies are still adjusting. How many days had you been using? Did you think everything would be roses after 36 days? Does it really matter?

I am 587 days quit today. 50-60 of those have probably been rough days, while the rest feel fucking fantastic. That's OK. You know why? Most of those 50-60 days occurred in the first 100. As you get along, the bad days should get less frequent and the good days more frequent.

You can do this.

I'm very proud of you. 36 days is awesome.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on February 05, 2013, 07:33:00 AM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
You are going to have down days. It's ok. To feel that way.

Go ahead and take a look down at you last post you made a couple of days ago. Plenty of good reasons listed there, and there'!s of reasons more as well. You see, these "bad" days seem so bad because our bodies are still adjusting. How many days had you been using? Did you think everything would be roses after 36 days? Does it really matter?

I am 587 days quit today. 50-60 of those have probably been rough days, while the rest feel fucking fantastic. That's OK. You know why? Most of those 50-60 days occurred in the first 100. As you get along, the bad days should get less frequent and the good days more frequent.

You can do this.

I'm very proud of you. 36 days is awesome.
The tall peaks and deep valleys will soon be gentle, rolling meadows.

Trust me.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: copingwithoutcopen on February 05, 2013, 08:30:00 AM
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
You are going to have down days. It's ok. To feel that way.

Go ahead and take a look down at you last post you made a couple of days ago. Plenty of good reasons listed there, and there'!s of reasons more as well. You see, these "bad" days seem so bad because our bodies are still adjusting. How many days had you been using? Did you think everything would be roses after 36 days? Does it really matter?

I am 587 days quit today. 50-60 of those have probably been rough days, while the rest feel fucking fantastic. That's OK. You know why? Most of those 50-60 days occurred in the first 100. As you get along, the bad days should get less frequent and the good days more frequent.

You can do this.

I'm very proud of you. 36 days is awesome.
The tall peaks and deep valleys will soon be gentle, rolling meadows.

Trust me.
It will absolutely get better. The first 30 days was a whirlwind for me. My gums tasted like copper and what's left of my hair follicles tingled. I remember just getting over that feeling that I forgot the trusty tin of death at the house and almost panicking 3 weeks in. It was all I could do to post up and stay busy. A couple gents stayed with me, pushed and pulled me through. Soon, the self centered egomaniac gave way to self aware peacefulness and I started to discover that the rest of this motley crew was in the same boat.
Nicole is a sneaky little vixen. She will whisper sweet nothings in your ear and try to fill your head with doubt. You are more powerful then that. You hold your destiny in your hands. You are a man of your word. You've proven it 36 times and today is no different.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Scowick65 on February 05, 2013, 08:57:00 AM
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
You are going to have down days. It's ok. To feel that way.

Go ahead and take a look down at you last post you made a couple of days ago. Plenty of good reasons listed there, and there'!s of reasons more as well. You see, these "bad" days seem so bad because our bodies are still adjusting. How many days had you been using? Did you think everything would be roses after 36 days? Does it really matter?

I am 587 days quit today. 50-60 of those have probably been rough days, while the rest feel fucking fantastic. That's OK. You know why? Most of those 50-60 days occurred in the first 100. As you get along, the bad days should get less frequent and the good days more frequent.

You can do this.

I'm very proud of you. 36 days is awesome.
The tall peaks and deep valleys will soon be gentle, rolling meadows.

Trust me.
It will absolutely get better. The first 30 days was a whirlwind for me. My gums tasted like copper and what's left of my hair follicles tingled. I remember just getting over that feeling that I forgot the trusty tin of death at the house and almost panicking 3 weeks in. It was all I could do to post up and stay busy. A couple gents stayed with me, pushed and pulled me through. Soon, the self centered egomaniac gave way to self aware peacefulness and I started to discover that the rest of this motley crew was in the same boat.
Nicole is a sneaky little vixen. She will whisper sweet nothings in your ear and try to fill your head with doubt. You are more powerful then that. You hold your destiny in your hands. You are a man of your word. You've proven it 36 times and today is no different.
I am at 788. Honestly, I would go through all of the shit all over again to have and enjoy the freedom I now possess. I did not begin to really start to get "there" until day 120 to 150. Have faith. In time a new normal shall appear. The body will adjust. The psyche will adjust. You will gradually and often unnoticeably reinvent what it is to be you. You shall be restored one day at a time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 05, 2013, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
Easy Cowgirl. 36 days is awesome and you have come further than you realize but you are still in the early stages. Like the other guys said, your quit isn't going to "take off" for a little bit yet, but you are close.

Do not get down on yourself.
Do not feel you should be "cured" by now, or that every day will be easy. It won't be.
Do not feel sorry for yourself.
Do not mope.
Do not compare your quit to others, each quit is unique.

DO realize that 36 days is fucking AWESOME
Do keep active on this site
Do listen to others
Do keep posting your "thoughts" in your intro
Do keep posting role and your "keep chugging along" attitude
Do realize you are on the right path
Do realize you have come a long way.
Do believe me that the freedom you will soon feel, is beyond fucking belief
Do look forward to that. Quit for today but do look forward to the better days ahead.

Recently I did this and I almost fucking cried...I took a huge step back, realized everything I have been through, thought about all the tools I had acquired, all the connections I had made on this site, all the hurdles I had cleared, all the triggers I had beat, all the bullshit I crawled through.

And I realized something for the first time. I will never chew again. I quit for each day, but it hit me like a ton of bricks...I CAN actually go the rest of my life without chew. I always THOUGHT that, but I'm not sure I truly BELIEVED it until recently, when I beat back one of the biggest hurdles of my quit.

It's like when you take a new job. At first you think, "fuck, this job is hard as hell. I will never be comfortable and figure everything out. This SUCKS. Maybe I should have stayed at my old job..." Then as time passes and you learn from your boss, your co workers, you put in extra hours, you get a promotion maybe, you step back and realize..."Dude, why did I think this job was so hard? I can do most of it with my hands tied behind my back, and I can handle any odd bullshit that is thrown my way, because I've seen just about everything". This is how I feel about my quit right now.

But I know just like my job, if I start to slack, fuck around, call in sick a bunch of days, don't keep updated on new processes or training, etc...that I will be fucked and eventually fired. So just like quitting you always have to keep you guard up.

This is the way I see it anyway. You or others may think I'm a crazy fuck, but just know that things WILL GET BETTER. Your fighting the good fight, and you will be victorious and the rewards will be sweeter than apple pie.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on February 06, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
Easy Cowgirl. 36 days is awesome and you have come further than you realize but you are still in the early stages. Like the other guys said, your quit isn't going to "take off" for a little bit yet, but you are close.

Do not get down on yourself.
Do not feel you should be "cured" by now, or that every day will be easy. It won't be.
Do not feel sorry for yourself.
Do not mope.
Do not compare your quit to others, each quit is unique.

DO realize that 36 days is fucking AWESOME
Do keep active on this site
Do listen to others
Do keep posting your "thoughts" in your intro
Do keep posting role and your "keep chugging along" attitude
Do realize you are on the right path
Do realize you have come a long way.
Do believe me that the freedom you will soon feel, is beyond fucking belief
Do look forward to that. Quit for today but do look forward to the better days ahead.

Recently I did this and I almost fucking cried...I took a huge step back, realized everything I have been through, thought about all the tools I had acquired, all the connections I had made on this site, all the hurdles I had cleared, all the triggers I had beat, all the bullshit I crawled through.

And I realized something for the first time. I will never chew again. I quit for each day, but it hit me like a ton of bricks...I CAN actually go the rest of my life without chew. I always THOUGHT that, but I'm not sure I truly BELIEVED it until recently, when I beat back one of the biggest hurdles of my quit.

It's like when you take a new job. At first you think, "fuck, this job is hard as hell. I will never be comfortable and figure everything out. This SUCKS. Maybe I should have stayed at my old job..." Then as time passes and you learn from your boss, your co workers, you put in extra hours, you get a promotion maybe, you step back and realize..."Dude, why did I think this job was so hard? I can do most of it with my hands tied behind my back, and I can handle any odd bullshit that is thrown my way, because I've seen just about everything". This is how I feel about my quit right now.

But I know just like my job, if I start to slack, fuck around, call in sick a bunch of days, don't keep updated on new processes or training, etc...that I will be fucked and eventually fired. So just like quitting you always have to keep you guard up.

This is the way I see it anyway. You or others may think I'm a crazy fuck, but just know that things WILL GET BETTER. Your fighting the good fight, and you will be victorious and the rewards will be sweeter than apple pie.
Hey Ryan, it will be ok man. First listen to Diesel, he knows his shit. Second the question of the day isn't a test. Nobody is going to grade you or laugh at you (unless that is what you want to happen, that is usually pretty obvious.) 36 days (37 now) is amazing and there are a lot more where those came from.

It does get better, for me somewhere in the 40's is when I started having a shift in my thinking. Somewhere around my 30's someone asked the question "would you use again if the world was going to end and you knew about it?" In the 30's my answer was FUCK YEA! about 45 days in is where my answer started to change to something like well maybe if.... If you ask me now the answer is FUCK NO! There are stages to this whole quitting thing, some of it yes you are just going to have to put your head down and muscle through it, but then maybe for 5 or 10 minutes you wont think about dipping, you may not realize it until later in the day but there will be those little moments that start this journey. The time will grow, your quit will grow and pretty soon those minutes turn into hours and then days.

It will get better, don't put too much thought into trivial things like the question of the day. I am proud of you and what you have accomplished. Keep your head down and push through this. I know your resolve is awesome and you will be rewarded for that. Let me know if you need anything.

James
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on February 06, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
Easy Cowgirl. 36 days is awesome and you have come further than you realize but you are still in the early stages. Like the other guys said, your quit isn't going to "take off" for a little bit yet, but you are close.

Do not get down on yourself.
Do not feel you should be "cured" by now, or that every day will be easy. It won't be.
Do not feel sorry for yourself.
Do not mope.
Do not compare your quit to others, each quit is unique.

DO realize that 36 days is fucking AWESOME
Do keep active on this site
Do listen to others
Do keep posting your "thoughts" in your intro
Do keep posting role and your "keep chugging along" attitude
Do realize you are on the right path
Do realize you have come a long way.
Do believe me that the freedom you will soon feel, is beyond fucking belief
Do look forward to that. Quit for today but do look forward to the better days ahead.

Recently I did this and I almost fucking cried...I took a huge step back, realized everything I have been through, thought about all the tools I had acquired, all the connections I had made on this site, all the hurdles I had cleared, all the triggers I had beat, all the bullshit I crawled through.

And I realized something for the first time. I will never chew again. I quit for each day, but it hit me like a ton of bricks...I CAN actually go the rest of my life without chew. I always THOUGHT that, but I'm not sure I truly BELIEVED it until recently, when I beat back one of the biggest hurdles of my quit.

It's like when you take a new job. At first you think, "fuck, this job is hard as hell. I will never be comfortable and figure everything out. This SUCKS. Maybe I should have stayed at my old job..." Then as time passes and you learn from your boss, your co workers, you put in extra hours, you get a promotion maybe, you step back and realize..."Dude, why did I think this job was so hard? I can do most of it with my hands tied behind my back, and I can handle any odd bullshit that is thrown my way, because I've seen just about everything". This is how I feel about my quit right now.

But I know just like my job, if I start to slack, fuck around, call in sick a bunch of days, don't keep updated on new processes or training, etc...that I will be fucked and eventually fired. So just like quitting you always have to keep you guard up.

This is the way I see it anyway. You or others may think I'm a crazy fuck, but just know that things WILL GET BETTER. Your fighting the good fight, and you will be victorious and the rewards will be sweeter than apple pie.
Hey Ryan, it will be ok man. First listen to Diesel, he knows his shit. Second the question of the day isn't a test. Nobody is going to grade you or laugh at you (unless that is what you want to happen, that is usually pretty obvious.) 36 days (37 now) is amazing and there are a lot more where those came from.

It does get better, for me somewhere in the 40's is when I started having a shift in my thinking. Somewhere around my 30's someone asked the question "would you use again if the world was going to end and you knew about it?" In the 30's my answer was FUCK YEA! about 45 days in is where my answer started to change to something like well maybe if.... If you ask me now the answer is FUCK NO! There are stages to this whole quitting thing, some of it yes you are just going to have to put your head down and muscle through it, but then maybe for 5 or 10 minutes you wont think about dipping, you may not realize it until later in the day but there will be those little moments that start this journey. The time will grow, your quit will grow and pretty soon those minutes turn into hours and then days.

It will get better, don't put too much thought into trivial things like the question of the day. I am proud of you and what you have accomplished. Keep your head down and push through this. I know your resolve is awesome and you will be rewarded for that. Let me know if you need anything.

James
Here are 100 things to be thankful for

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 06, 2013, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
Easy Cowgirl. 36 days is awesome and you have come further than you realize but you are still in the early stages. Like the other guys said, your quit isn't going to "take off" for a little bit yet, but you are close.

Do not get down on yourself.
Do not feel you should be "cured" by now, or that every day will be easy. It won't be.
Do not feel sorry for yourself.
Do not mope.
Do not compare your quit to others, each quit is unique.

DO realize that 36 days is fucking AWESOME
Do keep active on this site
Do listen to others
Do keep posting your "thoughts" in your intro
Do keep posting role and your "keep chugging along" attitude
Do realize you are on the right path
Do realize you have come a long way.
Do believe me that the freedom you will soon feel, is beyond fucking belief
Do look forward to that. Quit for today but do look forward to the better days ahead.

Recently I did this and I almost fucking cried...I took a huge step back, realized everything I have been through, thought about all the tools I had acquired, all the connections I had made on this site, all the hurdles I had cleared, all the triggers I had beat, all the bullshit I crawled through.

And I realized something for the first time. I will never chew again. I quit for each day, but it hit me like a ton of bricks...I CAN actually go the rest of my life without chew. I always THOUGHT that, but I'm not sure I truly BELIEVED it until recently, when I beat back one of the biggest hurdles of my quit.

It's like when you take a new job. At first you think, "fuck, this job is hard as hell. I will never be comfortable and figure everything out. This SUCKS. Maybe I should have stayed at my old job..." Then as time passes and you learn from your boss, your co workers, you put in extra hours, you get a promotion maybe, you step back and realize..."Dude, why did I think this job was so hard? I can do most of it with my hands tied behind my back, and I can handle any odd bullshit that is thrown my way, because I've seen just about everything". This is how I feel about my quit right now.

But I know just like my job, if I start to slack, fuck around, call in sick a bunch of days, don't keep updated on new processes or training, etc...that I will be fucked and eventually fired. So just like quitting you always have to keep you guard up.

This is the way I see it anyway. You or others may think I'm a crazy fuck, but just know that things WILL GET BETTER. Your fighting the good fight, and you will be victorious and the rewards will be sweeter than apple pie.
Hey Ryan, it will be ok man. First listen to Diesel, he knows his shit. Second the question of the day isn't a test. Nobody is going to grade you or laugh at you (unless that is what you want to happen, that is usually pretty obvious.) 36 days (37 now) is amazing and there are a lot more where those came from.

It does get better, for me somewhere in the 40's is when I started having a shift in my thinking. Somewhere around my 30's someone asked the question "would you use again if the world was going to end and you knew about it?" In the 30's my answer was FUCK YEA! about 45 days in is where my answer started to change to something like well maybe if.... If you ask me now the answer is FUCK NO! There are stages to this whole quitting thing, some of it yes you are just going to have to put your head down and muscle through it, but then maybe for 5 or 10 minutes you wont think about dipping, you may not realize it until later in the day but there will be those little moments that start this journey. The time will grow, your quit will grow and pretty soon those minutes turn into hours and then days.

It will get better, don't put too much thought into trivial things like the question of the day. I am proud of you and what you have accomplished. Keep your head down and push through this. I know your resolve is awesome and you will be rewarded for that. Let me know if you need anything.

James
Here are 100 things to be thankful for

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Thank you all for the words of encouragement. I cannot tell you how timely these responses were for me. I dont understand why but the last several days have been a struggle. I wish so much that I did not miss nicotine. I feel guilty that I miss it. I know that is just a deadly trap to have feelings that like. I know that I need to replace that longing with anger. I have to stop giving this drug so much glory and so much credit. I guess I am just thinking outloud and being honest with you all. I know this is all mental crap at this point. I know that this mind game must be fought daily and these feeling beaten back daily.

The wisdom and the experience that I hear in your words makes me certain that better days are ahead. I will keep marching down this road of quit, and I will keep trying not to look back. Sometimes I just march down this road blindly following all of you, trusting that you are going in the right direction. I want to be where you are. I know you can help me get there. You have already helped me beyond belief.

Dont know how I can thank you. I supported some new quitters, (both day 5), offered some encouragement. Checking in on them daily, kind of you guys do for me. Hopefully that is how I thank you, just paying it forward.

Mega proud to be quit with you all.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Timeless117 on February 06, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
Easy Cowgirl. 36 days is awesome and you have come further than you realize but you are still in the early stages. Like the other guys said, your quit isn't going to "take off" for a little bit yet, but you are close.

Do not get down on yourself.
Do not feel you should be "cured" by now, or that every day will be easy. It won't be.
Do not feel sorry for yourself.
Do not mope.
Do not compare your quit to others, each quit is unique.

DO realize that 36 days is fucking AWESOME
Do keep active on this site
Do listen to others
Do keep posting your "thoughts" in your intro
Do keep posting role and your "keep chugging along" attitude
Do realize you are on the right path
Do realize you have come a long way.
Do believe me that the freedom you will soon feel, is beyond fucking belief
Do look forward to that. Quit for today but do look forward to the better days ahead.

Recently I did this and I almost fucking cried...I took a huge step back, realized everything I have been through, thought about all the tools I had acquired, all the connections I had made on this site, all the hurdles I had cleared, all the triggers I had beat, all the bullshit I crawled through.

And I realized something for the first time. I will never chew again. I quit for each day, but it hit me like a ton of bricks...I CAN actually go the rest of my life without chew. I always THOUGHT that, but I'm not sure I truly BELIEVED it until recently, when I beat back one of the biggest hurdles of my quit.

It's like when you take a new job. At first you think, "fuck, this job is hard as hell. I will never be comfortable and figure everything out. This SUCKS. Maybe I should have stayed at my old job..." Then as time passes and you learn from your boss, your co workers, you put in extra hours, you get a promotion maybe, you step back and realize..."Dude, why did I think this job was so hard? I can do most of it with my hands tied behind my back, and I can handle any odd bullshit that is thrown my way, because I've seen just about everything". This is how I feel about my quit right now.

But I know just like my job, if I start to slack, fuck around, call in sick a bunch of days, don't keep updated on new processes or training, etc...that I will be fucked and eventually fired. So just like quitting you always have to keep you guard up.

This is the way I see it anyway. You or others may think I'm a crazy fuck, but just know that things WILL GET BETTER. Your fighting the good fight, and you will be victorious and the rewards will be sweeter than apple pie.
Hey Ryan, it will be ok man. First listen to Diesel, he knows his shit. Second the question of the day isn't a test. Nobody is going to grade you or laugh at you (unless that is what you want to happen, that is usually pretty obvious.) 36 days (37 now) is amazing and there are a lot more where those came from.

It does get better, for me somewhere in the 40's is when I started having a shift in my thinking. Somewhere around my 30's someone asked the question "would you use again if the world was going to end and you knew about it?" In the 30's my answer was FUCK YEA! about 45 days in is where my answer started to change to something like well maybe if.... If you ask me now the answer is FUCK NO! There are stages to this whole quitting thing, some of it yes you are just going to have to put your head down and muscle through it, but then maybe for 5 or 10 minutes you wont think about dipping, you may not realize it until later in the day but there will be those little moments that start this journey. The time will grow, your quit will grow and pretty soon those minutes turn into hours and then days.

It will get better, don't put too much thought into trivial things like the question of the day. I am proud of you and what you have accomplished. Keep your head down and push through this. I know your resolve is awesome and you will be rewarded for that. Let me know if you need anything.

James
Here are 100 things to be thankful for

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Thank you all for the words of encouragement. I cannot tell you how timely these responses were for me. I dont understand why but the last several days have been a struggle. I wish so much that I did not miss nicotine. I feel guilty that I miss it. I know that is just a deadly trap to have feelings that like. I know that I need to replace that longing with anger. I have to stop giving this drug so much glory and so much credit. I guess I am just thinking outloud and being honest with you all. I know this is all mental crap at this point. I know that this mind game must be fought daily and these feeling beaten back daily.

The wisdom and the experience that I hear in your words makes me certain that better days are ahead. I will keep marching down this road of quit, and I will keep trying not to look back. Sometimes I just march down this road blindly following all of you, trusting that you are going in the right direction. I want to be where you are. I know you can help me get there. You have already helped me beyond belief.

Dont know how I can thank you. I supported some new quitters, (both day 5), offered some encouragement. Checking in on them daily, kind of you guys do for me. Hopefully that is how I thank you, just paying it forward.

Mega proud to be quit with you all.
Shit, Ryan, even at 514 days answering that question is pretty tough. There are so many good things that I could put down about the best thing of being quit. I personally think that question is a disservice as I feel like if I were to say one thing I'd be completely leaving out something else.

My first month here was horrible. I was a complete mess for almost that entire time. Then slowly but surely things started to get better and I started to see the light. I finally started to believe the people who kept on telling me that it'd get better, but I'd have to give it time. I never thought that day would come and they were just playing a cruel joke on me. But I can assure you and say that trust us, better things and days are going to come.

You've been quit 36 days. That is an awesome fucking accomplishment. Any day quit is awesome no matter how good or shitty you feel. You're not killing yourself nor are you a slave anymore. I like you know 100% that if it were not for this site, my girl, and whomever else is supporting me I would not have made it this far and I'd be right back out there stuffing my lip on my way to picking up cancer or dying.

Whatever you have to focus on to remain quit, keep reminding yourself of that. While that may be the reason now, in 10 days it could be something completely different. Something more positive or more negative. It's hard to say and everybody's individual quit is different. But just keep coming back posting roll and staying involved in the site. That's all you can do. Don't get yourself down with how far you've come.

If you ever need anything or just want to shoot the shit. PM me. We can text, talk or just email back and forth on here. No matter what time of the day it is and as long as I'm not in class or busy doing something I will be here for you. Always remember that.

Keep up the good work my friend!
Scott
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 07, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
Quote from: Timeless117
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 36,

I am still troubled that I couldnt answer the question of the day yesterday. "what has been the best thing about the quit?".

The truth is quitting has completely sucked. Day in and day out it has sucked. It is sometimes hard to think of anything good about it. Despite that, I still quit. I quit with all of you.

While it is hard yet, to focus on the positive aspects of being quit, I am fully aware of the EVIL and all of the negative aspects of USING. I remain focused on that, and that is still what drives this quit.

This morning I am 100% positive about 2 things. 1. I will NOT use nicotine today. and 2. I could NOT have made it this far in this quit without the resources on this site and the quitters I have met along the way.

Keep quitting quitters.

Ryan
Easy Cowgirl. 36 days is awesome and you have come further than you realize but you are still in the early stages. Like the other guys said, your quit isn't going to "take off" for a little bit yet, but you are close.

Do not get down on yourself.
Do not feel you should be "cured" by now, or that every day will be easy. It won't be.
Do not feel sorry for yourself.
Do not mope.
Do not compare your quit to others, each quit is unique.

DO realize that 36 days is fucking AWESOME
Do keep active on this site
Do listen to others
Do keep posting your "thoughts" in your intro
Do keep posting role and your "keep chugging along" attitude
Do realize you are on the right path
Do realize you have come a long way.
Do believe me that the freedom you will soon feel, is beyond fucking belief
Do look forward to that. Quit for today but do look forward to the better days ahead.

Recently I did this and I almost fucking cried...I took a huge step back, realized everything I have been through, thought about all the tools I had acquired, all the connections I had made on this site, all the hurdles I had cleared, all the triggers I had beat, all the bullshit I crawled through.

And I realized something for the first time. I will never chew again. I quit for each day, but it hit me like a ton of bricks...I CAN actually go the rest of my life without chew. I always THOUGHT that, but I'm not sure I truly BELIEVED it until recently, when I beat back one of the biggest hurdles of my quit.

It's like when you take a new job. At first you think, "fuck, this job is hard as hell. I will never be comfortable and figure everything out. This SUCKS. Maybe I should have stayed at my old job..." Then as time passes and you learn from your boss, your co workers, you put in extra hours, you get a promotion maybe, you step back and realize..."Dude, why did I think this job was so hard? I can do most of it with my hands tied behind my back, and I can handle any odd bullshit that is thrown my way, because I've seen just about everything". This is how I feel about my quit right now.

But I know just like my job, if I start to slack, fuck around, call in sick a bunch of days, don't keep updated on new processes or training, etc...that I will be fucked and eventually fired. So just like quitting you always have to keep you guard up.

This is the way I see it anyway. You or others may think I'm a crazy fuck, but just know that things WILL GET BETTER. Your fighting the good fight, and you will be victorious and the rewards will be sweeter than apple pie.
Hey Ryan, it will be ok man. First listen to Diesel, he knows his shit. Second the question of the day isn't a test. Nobody is going to grade you or laugh at you (unless that is what you want to happen, that is usually pretty obvious.) 36 days (37 now) is amazing and there are a lot more where those came from.

It does get better, for me somewhere in the 40's is when I started having a shift in my thinking. Somewhere around my 30's someone asked the question "would you use again if the world was going to end and you knew about it?" In the 30's my answer was FUCK YEA! about 45 days in is where my answer started to change to something like well maybe if.... If you ask me now the answer is FUCK NO! There are stages to this whole quitting thing, some of it yes you are just going to have to put your head down and muscle through it, but then maybe for 5 or 10 minutes you wont think about dipping, you may not realize it until later in the day but there will be those little moments that start this journey. The time will grow, your quit will grow and pretty soon those minutes turn into hours and then days.

It will get better, don't put too much thought into trivial things like the question of the day. I am proud of you and what you have accomplished. Keep your head down and push through this. I know your resolve is awesome and you will be rewarded for that. Let me know if you need anything.

James
Here are 100 things to be thankful for

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Thank you all for the words of encouragement. I cannot tell you how timely these responses were for me. I dont understand why but the last several days have been a struggle. I wish so much that I did not miss nicotine. I feel guilty that I miss it. I know that is just a deadly trap to have feelings that like. I know that I need to replace that longing with anger. I have to stop giving this drug so much glory and so much credit. I guess I am just thinking outloud and being honest with you all. I know this is all mental crap at this point. I know that this mind game must be fought daily and these feeling beaten back daily.

The wisdom and the experience that I hear in your words makes me certain that better days are ahead. I will keep marching down this road of quit, and I will keep trying not to look back. Sometimes I just march down this road blindly following all of you, trusting that you are going in the right direction. I want to be where you are. I know you can help me get there. You have already helped me beyond belief.

Dont know how I can thank you. I supported some new quitters, (both day 5), offered some encouragement. Checking in on them daily, kind of you guys do for me. Hopefully that is how I thank you, just paying it forward.

Mega proud to be quit with you all.
Shit, Ryan, even at 514 days answering that question is pretty tough. There are so many good things that I could put down about the best thing of being quit. I personally think that question is a disservice as I feel like if I were to say one thing I'd be completely leaving out something else.

My first month here was horrible. I was a complete mess for almost that entire time. Then slowly but surely things started to get better and I started to see the light. I finally started to believe the people who kept on telling me that it'd get better, but I'd have to give it time. I never thought that day would come and they were just playing a cruel joke on me. But I can assure you and say that trust us, better things and days are going to come.

You've been quit 36 days. That is an awesome fucking accomplishment. Any day quit is awesome no matter how good or shitty you feel. You're not killing yourself nor are you a slave anymore. I like you know 100% that if it were not for this site, my girl, and whomever else is supporting me I would not have made it this far and I'd be right back out there stuffing my lip on my way to picking up cancer or dying.

Whatever you have to focus on to remain quit, keep reminding yourself of that. While that may be the reason now, in 10 days it could be something completely different. Something more positive or more negative. It's hard to say and everybody's individual quit is different. But just keep coming back posting roll and staying involved in the site. That's all you can do. Don't get yourself down with how far you've come.

If you ever need anything or just want to shoot the shit. PM me. We can text, talk or just email back and forth on here. No matter what time of the day it is and as long as I'm not in class or busy doing something I will be here for you. Always remember that.

Keep up the good work my friend!
Scott
As soon as you believe you are not giving up anything pleasurable, but instead are freeing yourself from something terrible, it will all start to click.

I know you hear/read the words but that doesn't make you BELIEVE it. I know I didn't despite hearing it a ton. Nobody can make you do that nor tell you WHEN it will happen.

Keep racking up days, clearing hurdles, and whatever else it takes to say quit. The payoff will come.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 09, 2013, 07:30:00 AM
I dont know how I missed that "100 benefits" link for the last 40 days, but thank you skoal monster. That is some good shit.

I am pretty excited about day 40 today. For the 1st time in my history of quitting I actually feel a little bit of pride. When it comes to the hold that dip has on my life, sorrow, guilt and anger have been my primary emotions for a long time. I know in the grand scope of things 40 days aint shit, but dammit it is a good start, and I am doing it the KTC way. No cutting down, no NRT, no bullshit!!! Just drinking Kool Aid and arming myself with knowledge and support.

This site is bad ass. And so are the quitters on it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: bigwhitebeast on February 09, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I dont know how I missed that "100 benefits" link for the last 40 days, but thank you skoal monster. That is some good shit.

I am pretty excited about day 40 today. For the 1st time in my history of quitting I actually feel a little bit of pride. When it comes to the hold that dip has on my life, sorrow, guilt and anger have been my primary emotions for a long time. I know in the grand scope of things 40 days aint shit, but dammit it is a good start, and I am doing it the KTC way. No cutting down, no NRT, no bullshit!!! Just drinking Kool Aid and arming myself with knowledge and support.

This site is bad ass. And so are the quitters on it.
You are kicking ass brother! You should feel some pride, heck, a lot of pride because you are doing what many haven't been able to yet but don't let your gaurd down even for a second. Proud to be quit with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on February 09, 2013, 10:01:00 PM
Quote from: Bigwhitebeast
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I dont know how I missed that "100 benefits" link for the last 40 days, but thank you skoal monster.  That is some good shit.

I am pretty excited about day 40 today.  For the 1st time in my history of quitting I actually feel a little bit of pride.  When it comes to the hold that dip has on my life, sorrow, guilt and anger have been my primary emotions for a long time.  I know in the grand scope of things 40 days aint shit, but dammit it is a good start, and I am doing it the KTC way.  No cutting down, no NRT, no bullshit!!!  Just drinking Kool Aid and arming myself with knowledge and support. 

This site is bad ass.  And so are the quitters on it.
You are kicking ass brother! You should feel some pride, heck, a lot of pride because you are doing what many haven't been able to yet but don't let your gaurd down even for a second. Proud to be quit with you today.
Oh boy.....now I have some big ol' quit wood....

POW....

G2H......YOU ARE THE VOICE and a BADASS quitter!!!!!

but as mentioned, the bitch is lurking.....waiting....waiting for your weak moment....are you in a "fuck it" kind of mood? feeling anxiety? those are the 2 situations the bitch likes the best and she will pounce......

Quit with you today
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 10, 2013, 04:19:00 AM
4 AM here. Just awakened by a shitty nicotine dream. It is the 2nd one of my quit. This time it didnt even involve dip. I was on the golf course and having a big crave. I suddenly remembered that I had a bunch of 4mg nicotine lozenges in my truck. So at the turn I run out to the truck and pop one in. As I sucked on it I started to panic thinking that this might tempt me to buy a can on the way home. Fearing that I might "cave" it was hard to concentrate on golf, then I realized I there is no might cave, I just did "cave". Woke up on a cold sweat and turned on the computer.

I am about to go out to my truck right now and shit can $50 worth of Nicorette bullshit. I forgot that I even had it, but I guess the nic bitch didnt. That whore works alot of angles while looking for a quit to devour.

Day 41 here WTF, still tormented sometimes. This addiction is a nasty beast. Guess I ought to go post role.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 10, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
4 AM here. Just awakened by a shitty nicotine dream. It is the 2nd one of my quit. This time it didnt even involve dip. I was on the golf course and having a big crave. I suddenly remembered that I had a bunch of 4mg nicotine lozenges in my truck. So at the turn I run out to the truck and pop one in. As I sucked on it I started to panic thinking that this might tempt me to buy a can on the way home. Fearing that I might "cave" it was hard to concentrate on golf, then I realized I there is no might cave, I just did "cave". Woke up on a cold sweat and turned on the computer.

I am about to go out to my truck right now and shit can $50 worth of Nicorette bullshit. I forgot that I even had it, but I guess the nic bitch didnt. That whore works alot of angles while looking for a quit to devour.

Day 41 here WTF, still tormented sometimes. This addiction is a nasty beast. Guess I ought to go post role.
Take that $50 of bullshit and flush it down the shitter. Then your next dream will be of you going toilet diving for it and once your head hits the water you will wake up. Don't do what I did at my buddies the other night and go "upper deck" with it either.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on February 11, 2013, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
4 AM here.  Just awakened by a shitty nicotine dream.  It is the 2nd one of my quit.  This time it didnt even involve dip.  I was on the golf course and having a big crave.  I suddenly remembered that I had a bunch of 4mg nicotine lozenges in my truck.  So at the turn I run out to the truck and pop one in.  As I sucked on it I started to panic thinking that this might tempt me to buy a can on the way home.  Fearing that I might "cave" it was hard to concentrate on golf, then I realized I there is no might cave, I just did "cave".  Woke up on a cold sweat and turned on the computer. 

I am about to go out to my truck right now and shit can $50 worth of Nicorette bullshit.  I forgot that I even had it, but I guess the nic bitch didnt.  That whore works alot of angles while looking for a quit to devour.

Day 41 here WTF, still tormented sometimes.  This addiction is a nasty beast.  Guess I ought to go post role.
Take that $50 of bullshit and flush it down the shitter. Then your next dream will be of you going toilet diving for it and once your head hits the water you will wake up. Don't do what I did at my buddies the other night and go "upper deck" with it either.
whattchu talkin about Diesel?......................... better not be upperdecking nic gum.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 11, 2013, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
4 AM here.  Just awakened by a shitty nicotine dream.  It is the 2nd one of my quit.  This time it didnt even involve dip.  I was on the golf course and having a big crave.  I suddenly remembered that I had a bunch of 4mg nicotine lozenges in my truck.  So at the turn I run out to the truck and pop one in.  As I sucked on it I started to panic thinking that this might tempt me to buy a can on the way home.  Fearing that I might "cave" it was hard to concentrate on golf, then I realized I there is no might cave, I just did "cave".  Woke up on a cold sweat and turned on the computer. 

I am about to go out to my truck right now and shit can $50 worth of Nicorette bullshit.  I forgot that I even had it, but I guess the nic bitch didnt.  That whore works alot of angles while looking for a quit to devour.

Day 41 here WTF, still tormented sometimes.  This addiction is a nasty beast.  Guess I ought to go post role.
Take that $50 of bullshit and flush it down the shitter. Then your next dream will be of you going toilet diving for it and once your head hits the water you will wake up. Don't do what I did at my buddies the other night and go "upper deck" with it either.
whattchu talkin about Diesel?......................... better not be upperdecking nic gum.
It wasn't nic gum, but shit nonetheless....
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: dipweasel on February 11, 2013, 09:59:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
4 AM here.  Just awakened by a shitty nicotine dream.  It is the 2nd one of my quit.  This time it didnt even involve dip.  I was on the golf course and having a big crave.  I suddenly remembered that I had a bunch of 4mg nicotine lozenges in my truck.  So at the turn I run out to the truck and pop one in.  As I sucked on it I started to panic thinking that this might tempt me to buy a can on the way home.  Fearing that I might "cave" it was hard to concentrate on golf, then I realized I there is no might cave, I just did "cave".  Woke up on a cold sweat and turned on the computer. 

I am about to go out to my truck right now and shit can $50 worth of Nicorette bullshit.  I forgot that I even had it, but I guess the nic bitch didnt.  That whore works alot of angles while looking for a quit to devour.

Day 41 here WTF, still tormented sometimes.  This addiction is a nasty beast.  Guess I ought to go post role.
Take that $50 of bullshit and flush it down the shitter. Then your next dream will be of you going toilet diving for it and once your head hits the water you will wake up. Don't do what I did at my buddies the other night and go "upper deck" with it either.
whattchu talkin about Diesel?......................... better not be upperdecking nic gum.
It wasn't nic gum, but shit nonetheless....

Ha! That's my boy! Quit with you! I actually woke up out of a dream where I was smoking and so ashamed I lost my quit. Woke up, smiled and told that bitch that was the closest she could get - a dream.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on February 12, 2013, 08:39:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
4 AM here.  Just awakened by a shitty nicotine dream.  It is the 2nd one of my quit.  This time it didnt even involve dip.  I was on the golf course and having a big crave.  I suddenly remembered that I had a bunch of 4mg nicotine lozenges in my truck.  So at the turn I run out to the truck and pop one in.  As I sucked on it I started to panic thinking that this might tempt me to buy a can on the way home.  Fearing that I might "cave" it was hard to concentrate on golf, then I realized I there is no might cave, I just did "cave".  Woke up on a cold sweat and turned on the computer. 

I am about to go out to my truck right now and shit can $50 worth of Nicorette bullshit.  I forgot that I even had it, but I guess the nic bitch didnt.  That whore works alot of angles while looking for a quit to devour.

Day 41 here WTF, still tormented sometimes.  This addiction is a nasty beast.  Guess I ought to go post role.
Take that $50 of bullshit and flush it down the shitter. Then your next dream will be of you going toilet diving for it and once your head hits the water you will wake up. Don't do what I did at my buddies the other night and go "upper deck" with it either.
whattchu talkin about Diesel?......................... better not be upperdecking nic gum.
It wasn't nic gum, but shit nonetheless....
what kinda shit?............
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 12, 2013, 10:26:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
4 AM here.  Just awakened by a shitty nicotine dream.  It is the 2nd one of my quit.  This time it didnt even involve dip.  I was on the golf course and having a big crave.  I suddenly remembered that I had a bunch of 4mg nicotine lozenges in my truck.  So at the turn I run out to the truck and pop one in.  As I sucked on it I started to panic thinking that this might tempt me to buy a can on the way home.  Fearing that I might "cave" it was hard to concentrate on golf, then I realized I there is no might cave, I just did "cave".  Woke up on a cold sweat and turned on the computer. 

I am about to go out to my truck right now and shit can $50 worth of Nicorette bullshit.  I forgot that I even had it, but I guess the nic bitch didnt.  That whore works alot of angles while looking for a quit to devour.

Day 41 here WTF, still tormented sometimes.  This addiction is a nasty beast.  Guess I ought to go post role.
Take that $50 of bullshit and flush it down the shitter. Then your next dream will be of you going toilet diving for it and once your head hits the water you will wake up. Don't do what I did at my buddies the other night and go "upper deck" with it either.
whattchu talkin about Diesel?......................... better not be upperdecking nic gum.
It wasn't nic gum, but shit nonetheless....
what kinda shit?............
Brown, semi-solid. About 2 plops.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 12, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
Day 43 here. I cant believe it has taken 40 days to feel some measure of pride about this quit. But I now have some. And it will only help me to protect the quit.

I am still kicking nic ass on a daily basis. Just read Thors post and it reminds me of how hard I have craved too. Well fuck that anymore. That nic bitch can crawl into a fucking hole and die, she has no power here anymore. Get under my boot bitch, while I Joe Pesci stomp your nasty skull into the ground. You can come calling, bring your lies, for I will recognize them for what they are. A futile attempt to draw in a quitter. You've got no say here anymore. Even if you come on a weak day, I will not cave. I have an army of quitters standing with me that I am trained to lean on.

I am seeing this freedom as a great gift. My eye is on the prize. I know I must quit one day at time. Some days that is all I will be capable of. But other days I feel compelled to say, "fuck you, I win".

Quit on!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 30isEnuff on February 12, 2013, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 43 here. I cant believe it has taken 40 days to feel some measure of pride about this quit. But I now have some. And it will only help me to protect the quit.

I am still kicking nic ass on a daily basis. Just read Thors post and it reminds me of how hard I have craved too. Well fuck that anymore. That nic bitch can crawl into a fucking hole and die, she has no power here anymore. Get under my boot bitch, while I Joe Pesci stomp your nasty skull into the ground. You can come calling, bring your lies, for I will recognize them for what they are. A futile attempt to draw in a quitter. You've got no say here anymore. Even if you come on a weak day, I will not cave. I have an army of quitters standing with me that I am trained to lean on.

I am seeing this freedom as a great gift. My eye is on the prize. I know I must quit one day at time. Some days that is all I will be capable of. But other days I feel compelled to say, "fuck you, I win".

Quit on!!
Good stuff Its_Got2Happen!! 'bang head'
Close that fucking door on her neck!!!! 'Remshot'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 15, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
Pretty good dialogue today in the April group regarding the importance of posting role EVERYDAY!!!! Here is my 2 cents.

100% next to my name!! I wouldn't count on that changing anytime soon. I will take the good days and the bad days quit. There are still many bad days, but I was hopeless on my own. And let's be honest, when I was using...they were all bad days. How could you have a good day when your world revolved around a mouth full of tobacco. 2 cans/day at the end. I could never get enough, sometimes 3 cans if I was on a weekend bender.

I am ecstatic about putting that chapter of my life behind me. Not sure I like doing it one day at time, but at this point I have no other choice. QFT, and I will see you on the role tomorrow. As for the guys that don't post...............fuck em, if they dont make a promise, how can anyone possiblly help them to keep it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jhaenel23 on February 15, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Pretty good dialogue today in the April group regarding the importance of posting role EVERYDAY!!!! Here is my 2 cents.

100% next to my name!! I wouldn't count on that changing anytime soon. I will take the good days and the bad days quit. There are still many bad days, but I was hopeless on my own. And let's be honest, when I was using...they were all bad days. How could you have a good day when your world revolved around a mouth full of tobacco. 2 cans/day at the end. I could never get enough, sometimes 3 cans if I was on a weekend bender.

I am ecstatic about putting that chapter of my life behind me. Not sure I like doing it one day at time, but at this point I have no other choice. QFT, and I will see you on the role tomorrow. As for the guys that don't post...............fuck em, if they dont make a promise, how can anyone possiblly help them to keep it.
'jedisith'

The QUIT is strong with this one!! Thanks for making my Quit stronger today!!! Fuck Yeah!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 20, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
51 days quit. Today is the hardest day by far. A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU. He died last night at 36 years of age. Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children. I am heartbroken and filled with grief.

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends. Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure. QLF today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tazbutane on February 20, 2013, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
51 days quit. Today is the hardest day by far. A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU. He died last night at 36 years of age. Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children. I am heartbroken and filled with grief.

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends. Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure. QLF today.
My condolences G2H. One day at a time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Dlee3 on February 20, 2013, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
51 days quit. Today is the hardest day by far. A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU. He died last night at 36 years of age. Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children. I am heartbroken and filled with grief.

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends. Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure. QLF today.
I hate to hear that G2H. Too freaking young. Hits pretty close to home for me.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 916quit on February 20, 2013, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Dlee3
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
51 days quit.  Today is the hardest day by far.  A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU.  He died last night at 36 years of age.  Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children.  I am heartbroken and filled with grief. 

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends.  Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure.  QLF today.
I hate to hear that G2H. Too freaking young. Hits pretty close to home for me.
I Am so sorry to hear. Prayers out to the family.
Stay strong brother!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on February 20, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: Dlee3
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
51 days quit.  Today is the hardest day by far.  A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU.  He died last night at 36 years of age.  Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children.  I am heartbroken and filled with grief. 

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends.  Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure.  QLF today.
I hate to hear that G2H. Too freaking young. Hits pretty close to home for me.
I Am so sorry to hear. Prayers out to the family.
Stay strong brother!
Cant even imagine....God bless brother
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 20, 2013, 11:40:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Pretty good dialogue today in the April group regarding the importance of posting role EVERYDAY!!!! Here is my 2 cents.

100% next to my name!! I wouldn't count on that changing anytime soon. I will take the good days and the bad days quit. There are still many bad days, but I was hopeless on my own. And let's be honest, when I was using...they were all bad days. How could you have a good day when your world revolved around a mouth full of tobacco. 2 cans/day at the end. I could never get enough, sometimes 3 cans if I was on a weekend bender.

I am ecstatic about putting that chapter of my life behind me. Not sure I like doing it one day at time, but at this point I have no other choice. QFT, and I will see you on the role tomorrow. As for the guys that don't post...............fuck em, if they dont make a promise, how can anyone possiblly help them to keep it.
Sorry to hear. Thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 21, 2013, 03:38:00 AM
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: Dlee3
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
51 days quit.  Today is the hardest day by far.  A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU.  He died last night at 36 years of age.  Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children.  I am heartbroken and filled with grief. 

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends.  Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure.  QLF today.
I hate to hear that G2H. Too freaking young. Hits pretty close to home for me.
I Am so sorry to hear. Prayers out to the family.
Stay strong brother!
Cant even imagine....God bless brother
Thank you for the words. My heart breaks for his wife and children. He had some kind of congenital heart valve issue. I dont know if nic was to blame in any way, shape, or form. But I know it sure as hell didn't help. I cannot believe that even sorrow is a trigger.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Libertynow on February 21, 2013, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: Dlee3
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
51 days quit.  Today is the hardest day by far.  A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU.  He died last night at 36 years of age.  Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children.  I am heartbroken and filled with grief. 

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends.  Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure.  QLF today.
I hate to hear that G2H. Too freaking young. Hits pretty close to home for me.
I Am so sorry to hear. Prayers out to the family.
Stay strong brother!
Cant even imagine....God bless brother
Thank you for the words. My heart breaks for his wife and children. He had some kind of congenital heart valve issue. I dont know if nic was to blame in any way, shape, or form. But I know it sure as hell didn't help. I cannot believe that even sorrow is a trigger.
Very sorry to hear about that! This is a tough time for everyone involved there. Sorrow unfortunately is a trigger. Stay strong!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on February 22, 2013, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: Libertynow
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: Dlee3
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
51 days quit.  Today is the hardest day by far.  A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU.  He died last night at 36 years of age.  Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children.  I am heartbroken and filled with grief. 

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends.  Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure.  QLF today.
I hate to hear that G2H. Too freaking young. Hits pretty close to home for me.
I Am so sorry to hear. Prayers out to the family.
Stay strong brother!
Cant even imagine....God bless brother
Thank you for the words. My heart breaks for his wife and children. He had some kind of congenital heart valve issue. I dont know if nic was to blame in any way, shape, or form. But I know it sure as hell didn't help. I cannot believe that even sorrow is a trigger.
Very sorry to hear about that! This is a tough time for everyone involved there. Sorrow unfortunately is a trigger. Stay strong!
nothing a dip can do to ease that pain. Don't tarnish the memory of your friend with a cave. Thoughts are with you. One day at a time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Radman on February 22, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Libertynow
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: Dlee3
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
51 days quit.  Today is the hardest day by far.  A close friend of mine had a precautionary heart surgery on Feb 5th, sufferred complications and never made it out of ICU.  He died last night at 36 years of age.  Leaving behind a wife and 3 young children.  I am heartbroken and filled with grief. 

Our time on this earth can be very short my friends.  Each day and each hour are precious gifts that we should should treasure.  QLF today.
I hate to hear that G2H. Too freaking young. Hits pretty close to home for me.
I Am so sorry to hear. Prayers out to the family.
Stay strong brother!
Cant even imagine....God bless brother
Thank you for the words. My heart breaks for his wife and children. He had some kind of congenital heart valve issue. I dont know if nic was to blame in any way, shape, or form. But I know it sure as hell didn't help. I cannot believe that even sorrow is a trigger.
Very sorry to hear about that! This is a tough time for everyone involved there. Sorrow unfortunately is a trigger. Stay strong!
nothing a dip can do to ease that pain. Don't tarnish the memory of your friend with a cave. Thoughts are with you. One day at a time.
Some years ago, I lost a good friend of mine in his early thirties to hidden heart problems. He passed without warning in his sleep. Life goes on, but there was a huge void.

Hang in there, bro. May peace be with the family and friends.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 23, 2013, 05:34:00 PM
54 days later, still feel like a schizophrenic. Can't believe the swings. Feel like superman for days at a time, then suddenly I can't eat a damn meal without coming unglued. WTF. I need some stability soon. Anyone ever try Wellbutrin? Read a little and I think I might look into it. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on February 23, 2013, 06:26:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
54 days later, still feel like a schizophrenic. Can't believe the swings. Feel like superman for days at a time, then suddenly I can't eat a damn meal without coming unglued. WTF. I need some stability soon. Anyone ever try Wellbutrin? Read a little and I think I might look into it. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Hey, I'm not a doctor but don't over stress the funks. Looking at your days quit and what you explained is so mirror image to me. I felt biPolar around 28, 55, 125, and 280 days. Feel great, relaxed and happy again.

Do some reading, you are just entering a pre HOF funk. You must post every day and fight. This is a time of caving in your group. Don't let it be you! Stay off booze during funks, and post roll.

One thing I just noticed, my funks a further apart each time!

You can talk to a doctor about it but don't discount the you are making a huge change and shake up in your mind and body. Day by day...don't stress and keep your wits. Wellbutrin is better than self medicating with booze. Stay away from booze, especially in a funk!

My thoughts on it. I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on February 23, 2013, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
54 days later, still feel like a schizophrenic. Can't believe the swings. Feel like superman for days at a time, then suddenly I can't eat a damn meal without coming unglued. WTF. I need some stability soon. Anyone ever try Wellbutrin?  Read a little and I think I might look into it.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Hey, I'm not a doctor but don't over stress the funks. Looking at your days quit and what you explained is so mirror image to me. I felt biPolar around 28, 55, 125, and 280 days. Feel great, relaxed and happy again.

Do some reading, you are just entering a pre HOF funk. You must post every day and fight. This is a time of caving in your group. Don't let it be you! Stay off booze during funks, and post roll.

One thing I just noticed, my funks a further apart each time!

You can talk to a doctor about it but don't discount the you are making a huge change and shake up in your mind and body. Day by day...don't stress and keep your wits. Wellbutrin is better than self medicating with booze. Stay away from booze, especially in a funk!

My thoughts on it. I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.
I didn't stay at the holiday inn but I've taken Wellbutrin for over ten years off and on. I take it in conjunction with my other anti depressants. If your doctor determines you need extra help there is nothing to be ashamed of. Check out the anxiety and depression thread in the wildcard section. Like MThomas said its better than self medicating.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 23, 2013, 11:53:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
54 days later, still feel like a schizophrenic. Can't believe the swings. Feel like superman for days at a time, then suddenly I can't eat a damn meal without coming unglued. WTF. I need some stability soon. Anyone ever try Wellbutrin?  Read a little and I think I might look into it.   Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Hey, I'm not a doctor but don't over stress the funks. Looking at your days quit and what you explained is so mirror image to me. I felt biPolar around 28, 55, 125, and 280 days. Feel great, relaxed and happy again.

Do some reading, you are just entering a pre HOF funk. You must post every day and fight. This is a time of caving in your group. Don't let it be you! Stay off booze during funks, and post roll.

One thing I just noticed, my funks a further apart each time!

You can talk to a doctor about it but don't discount the you are making a huge change and shake up in your mind and body. Day by day...don't stress and keep your wits. Wellbutrin is better than self medicating with booze. Stay away from booze, especially in a funk!

My thoughts on it. I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.
I didn't stay at the holiday inn but I've taken Wellbutrin for over ten years off and on. I take it in conjunction with my other anti depressants. If your doctor determines you need extra help there is nothing to be ashamed of. Check out the anxiety and depression thread in the wildcard section. Like MThomas said its better than self medicating.
Nothing wrong with seeking medical help. Just don't think it will suddenly make your quit exponentially easier. If you truly feel depressed, are full of anxiety, or are having panic/anxiety attacks then meds may be needed. If your just sick of the suck and funk's...that's normal and annoying too. Perhaps look into seeing a councelor. They helped me a great deal.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 27, 2013, 05:17:00 PM
Quite a challenging day. Went to bed last night with some nasty stomach pains. Woke up this morning and couldnt even think about eating. Apparently I have some kind of stomach flu. Being in the middle of a nasty winter storm I was not looking forward to the drive into work. Roads were solid ice from the freezing rain yesterday and now covered by 4 inches of heavy wet snow. For a moment I contemplated skipping my 8am meeting and just blowing off the work day. Oh how I wish I had. After a 1/2 dozen trips to the bathroom I decided to brave the storm and head to work.

About half way to work my truck stalls and will not stay started. Cars flying by me on both sides and slush splashing everywhere. I managed to nurse the truck to the left most lane an this big 8 lane divided highway, (Telegraph Rd) I decide to stay put in my truck and call for a tow. Hazard lights were likely a life saver but there were still some close calls. I was expecting to get rearended at any moment. I was going absolutely nuts. I never seriously considered it, but my body and my mind were SCREAMING for a dip. It was almost comical, and my reaction was like, "fuck that", "you think I am fucking stupid." I know that dip aint gonna make my truck start. That dip aint gonna make my stomach feel any better. That dip aint gonna get that tow truck here any faster. I was odd to be smack dap in the middle of a crave and be able to recognize it for what it is. It actually caused very little real "temptation".

The tow truck took almost 2 hours. After an hour or so it was clear that I needed to get to a bathroom, and quick. I finally left the truck and ran across the slush filled road, dodging traffic the whole way. There was a Tim Hortons across the street. I blew that toilet out, several times. Feel bad for the next customer or whoever had to clean that thing.

Now I am driving a little Ford Fusion rental car and waiting to hear what my repair bill will cost at the dealership. I need to get home. I am looking forward to some saltine crackers and gingerale. Gotta get something in this empty stomach. Happy Wednesday quitters. I would like to wipe this one off the books. Glad I posted roll at 5:30 this morning. My day started quit and it will end quit. You can bank on that.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: ERDVM on February 27, 2013, 05:33:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quite a challenging day.  Went to bed last night with some nasty stomach pains.  Woke up this morning and couldnt even think about eating.  Apparently I have some kind of stomach flu.  Being in the middle of a nasty winter storm I was not looking forward to the drive into work.  Roads were solid ice from the freezing rain yesterday and now covered by 4 inches of heavy wet snow.  For a moment I contemplated skipping my 8am meeting and just blowing off the work day.  Oh how I wish I had.  After a 1/2 dozen trips to the bathroom I decided to brave the storm and head to work.

About half way to work my truck stalls and will not stay started.  Cars flying by me on both sides and slush splashing everywhere.  I managed to nurse the truck to the left most lane an this big 8 lane divided highway, (Telegraph Rd) I decide to stay put in my truck and call for a tow.  Hazard lights were likely a life saver but there were still some close calls.  I was expecting to get rearended at any moment.  I was going absolutely nuts.  I never seriously considered it, but my body and my mind were SCREAMING for a dip.  It was almost comical, and my reaction was like, "fuck that", "you think I am fucking stupid."  I know that dip aint gonna make my truck start.  That dip aint gonna make my stomach feel any better.  That dip aint gonna get that tow truck here any faster.  I was odd to be smack dap in the middle of a crave and be able to recognize it for what it is.  It actually caused very little real "temptation".

The tow truck took almost 2 hours.  After an hour or so it was clear that I needed to get to a bathroom, and quick.  I finally left the truck and ran across the slush filled road, dodging traffic the whole way.  There was a Tim Hortons across the street.  I blew that toilet out, several times. Feel bad for the next customer or whoever had to clean that thing.

Now I am driving a little Ford Fusion rental car and waiting to hear what my repair bill will cost at the dealership.  I need to get home.  I am looking forward to some saltine crackers and gingerale.  Gotta get something in this empty stomach.  Happy Wednesday quitters.  I would like to wipe this one off the books.  Glad I posted roll at 5:30 this morning.  My day started quit and it will end quit.  You can bank on that.
Great work IG2H. Fanfuckingtastic actually. Way to take control of what you can control. No nic for you, no nic for me today. Thats how it works.  I must confess though....the image of you "Froggering" across the interstate with pinched butt cheeks made me smile. Also, "wipe this off the books" made me chuckle a little bit.
'flush' shocker
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on February 27, 2013, 06:43:00 PM
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quite a challenging day.  Went to bed last night with some nasty stomach pains.  Woke up this morning and couldnt even think about eating.  Apparently I have some kind of stomach flu.  Being in the middle of a nasty winter storm I was not looking forward to the drive into work.  Roads were solid ice from the freezing rain yesterday and now covered by 4 inches of heavy wet snow.  For a moment I contemplated skipping my 8am meeting and just blowing off the work day.  Oh how I wish I had.  After a 1/2 dozen trips to the bathroom I decided to brave the storm and head to work.

About half way to work my truck stalls and will not stay started.  Cars flying by me on both sides and slush splashing everywhere.  I managed to nurse the truck to the left most lane an this big 8 lane divided highway, (Telegraph Rd) I decide to stay put in my truck and call for a tow.  Hazard lights were likely a life saver but there were still some close calls.  I was expecting to get rearended at any moment.  I was going absolutely nuts.  I never seriously considered it, but my body and my mind were SCREAMING for a dip.  It was almost comical, and my reaction was like, "fuck that", "you think I am fucking stupid."  I know that dip aint gonna make my truck start.  That dip aint gonna make my stomach feel any better.  That dip aint gonna get that tow truck here any faster.  I was odd to be smack dap in the middle of a crave and be able to recognize it for what it is.  It actually caused very little real "temptation".

The tow truck took almost 2 hours.  After an hour or so it was clear that I needed to get to a bathroom, and quick.  I finally left the truck and ran across the slush filled road, dodging traffic the whole way.  There was a Tim Hortons across the street.  I blew that toilet out, several times. Feel bad for the next customer or whoever had to clean that thing.

Now I am driving a little Ford Fusion rental car and waiting to hear what my repair bill will cost at the dealership.  I need to get home.  I am looking forward to some saltine crackers and gingerale.  Gotta get something in this empty stomach.  Happy Wednesday quitters.  I would like to wipe this one off the books.  Glad I posted roll at 5:30 this morning.  My day started quit and it will end quit.  You can bank on that.
Great work IG2H. Fanfuckingtastic actually. Way to take control of what you can control. No nic for you, no nic for me today. Thats how it works. I must confess though....the image of you "Froggering" across the interstate with pinched butt cheeks made me smile. Also, "wipe this off the books" made me chuckle a little bit.
'flush' shocker
Copy that. Great fight that is some awesome shit! (PUN intended) 'hurry'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 27, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quite a challenging day. Went to bed last night with some nasty stomach pains. Woke up this morning and couldnt even think about eating. Apparently I have some kind of stomach flu. Being in the middle of a nasty winter storm I was not looking forward to the drive into work. Roads were solid ice from the freezing rain yesterday and now covered by 4 inches of heavy wet snow. For a moment I contemplated skipping my 8am meeting and just blowing off the work day. Oh how I wish I had. After a 1/2 dozen trips to the bathroom I decided to brave the storm and head to work.

About half way to work my truck stalls and will not stay started. Cars flying by me on both sides and slush splashing everywhere. I managed to nurse the truck to the left most lane an this big 8 lane divided highway, (Telegraph Rd) I decide to stay put in my truck and call for a tow. Hazard lights were likely a life saver but there were still some close calls. I was expecting to get rearended at any moment. I was going absolutely nuts. I never seriously considered it, but my body and my mind were SCREAMING for a dip. It was almost comical, and my reaction was like, "fuck that", "you think I am fucking stupid." I know that dip aint gonna make my truck start. That dip aint gonna make my stomach feel any better. That dip aint gonna get that tow truck here any faster. I was odd to be smack dap in the middle of a crave and be able to recognize it for what it is. It actually caused very little real "temptation".

The tow truck took almost 2 hours. After an hour or so it was clear that I needed to get to a bathroom, and quick. I finally left the truck and ran across the slush filled road, dodging traffic the whole way. There was a Tim Hortons across the street. I blew that toilet out, several times. Feel bad for the next customer or whoever had to clean that thing.

Now I am driving a little Ford Fusion rental car and waiting to hear what my repair bill will cost at the dealership. I need to get home. I am looking forward to some saltine crackers and gingerale. Gotta get something in this empty stomach. Happy Wednesday quitters. I would like to wipe this one off the books. Glad I posted roll at 5:30 this morning. My day started quit and it will end quit. You can bank on that.
I think I heard about you on 950's traffic and weather together on the 8's. They said stalled truck on Telegraph, driver has fountain ass. I chuckled. Sorry man. Didn't know that was you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 02, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
Brotherhood:

There has been alot of talk lately on the importance of posting roll everyday.

Here's my take from where I sit 61 days quit. In the beginning I was like, "yeah whatever". Had no plans to post daily. I played along for a few days, then I decided to just keep doing it even if I really didn't agree or didn't see how it would help me. Maybe it was time for a little humility. After all, some of these bastards dipped a decade longer than me and somehow they were quit for good. Some of them for were quit for YEARS. Maybe they knew a little something about quiting that I didn't. Over time here are a few things I realized about roll posting.

1. Making an affirmation and a promise each morning is very powerful. Can the promise be made just to yourself. Sure it can, but is it as powerful? In my opinion it most certainly IS NOT.

2. Posting roll = accountability. FACT: An addict WITHOUT accountability is (or will soon become) A USER.

3. Are we making a promise to strangers when we post roll? HELL NO! Thats what I thought 61 days ago. And maybe they were strangers at first. Now I realize that these are people, just like you and I. They are people that we have alot in common with. We really understand each other and the impact that addiction has on our lives. I have gotten to know many of these people and they have played an enormous role in my quit. I never would have guessed it, but that's the truth.

4. KTC is a great informational website. But if that is all you are using it for you are not taking full advantage of it. In fact you are missing out on the greatest and most powerful part. THE BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!! Posting roll is a promise not to use for that day. You make a promise, and your brothers help you keep it. If you don't make a promise, how the hell can anyone help you keep it. Perhaps you don't need the help??

Final point. If you don't need help, more power to you man. But for me, this is my life, and I will take all the help I can get. The method is tried and true, why mess around. Personally I have tried to quit 100 times, and ALWAYS failed. Something was always missing. I came here and found out what it was, THE BROTHERHOOD.

Thanks KTC.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tazbutane on March 02, 2013, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Brotherhood:

There has been alot of talk lately on the importance of posting roll everyday.

Here's my take from where I sit 61 days quit. In the beginning I was like, "yeah whatever". Had no plans to post daily. I played along for a few days, then I decided to just keep doing it even if I really didn't agree or didn't see how it would help me. Maybe it was time for a little humility. After all, some of these bastards dipped a decade longer than me and somehow they were quit for good. Some of them for were quit for YEARS. Maybe they knew a little something about quiting that I didn't. Over time here are a few things I realized about roll posting.

1. Making an affirmation and a promise each morning is very powerful. Can the promise be made just to yourself. Sure it can, but is it as powerful? In my opinion it most certainly IS NOT.

2. Posting roll = accountability. FACT: An addict WITHOUT accountability is (or will soon become) A USER.

3. Are we making a promise to strangers when we post roll? HELL NO! Thats what I thought 61 days ago. And maybe they were strangers at first. Now I realize that these are people, just like you and I. They are people that we have alot in common with. We really understand each other and the impact that addiction has on our lives. I have gotten to know many of these people and they have played an enormous role in my quit. I never would have guessed it, but that's the truth.

4. KTC is a great informational website. But if that is all you are using it for you are not taking full advantage of it. In fact you are missing out on the greatest and most powerful part. THE BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!! Posting roll is a promise not to use for that day. You make a promise, and your brothers help you keep it. If you don't make a promise, how the hell can anyone help you keep it. Perhaps you don't need the help??

Final point. If you don't need help, more power to you man. But for me, this is my life, and I will take all the help I can get. The method is tried and true, why mess around. Personally I have tried to quit 100 times, and ALWAYS failed. Something was always missing. I came here and found out what it was, THE BROTHERHOOD.

Thanks KTC.
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Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Dlee3 on March 02, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Brotherhood:

There has been alot of talk lately on the importance of posting roll everyday.

Here's my take from where I sit 61 days quit. In the beginning I was like, "yeah whatever". Had no plans to post daily. I played along for a few days, then I decided to just keep doing it even if I really didn't agree or didn't see how it would help me. Maybe it was time for a little humility. After all, some of these bastards dipped a decade longer than me and somehow they were quit for good. Some of them for were quit for YEARS. Maybe they knew a little something about quiting that I didn't. Over time here are a few things I realized about roll posting.

1. Making an affirmation and a promise each morning is very powerful. Can the promise be made just to yourself. Sure it can, but is it as powerful? In my opinion it most certainly IS NOT.

2. Posting roll = accountability. FACT: An addict WITHOUT accountability is (or will soon become) A USER.

3. Are we making a promise to strangers when we post roll? HELL NO! Thats what I thought 61 days ago. And maybe they were strangers at first. Now I realize that these are people, just like you and I. They are people that we have alot in common with. We really understand each other and the impact that addiction has on our lives. I have gotten to know many of these people and they have played an enormous role in my quit. I never would have guessed it, but that's the truth.

4. KTC is a great informational website. But if that is all you are using it for you are not taking full advantage of it. In fact you are missing out on the greatest and most powerful part. THE BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!! Posting roll is a promise not to use for that day. You make a promise, and your brothers help you keep it. If you don't make a promise, how the hell can anyone help you keep it. Perhaps you don't need the help??

Final point. If you don't need help, more power to you man. But for me, this is my life, and I will take all the help I can get. The method is tried and true, why mess around. Personally I have tried to quit 100 times, and ALWAYS failed. Something was always missing. I came here and found out what it was, THE BROTHERHOOD.

Thanks KTC.
Excellent post, IG2H. I'm with you on the "In the beginning" part. In the beginning it was a honeymoon of sorts. We post our intro, we respond to a couple of threads, we figure out how to post roll. More than anything, we're actually doing what we came here to do. Thus the excited but insignificant early pride in ourselves. But it was also very impersonal. It was intangible. It was already a brotherhood without us, but we couldn't actually see our brothers in quit. There was an emptiness to it, a feeling of knowing the only people we screwed were us and our families.

But then we hung around, got a few numbers, texted or got texted some support, and these people we can't see are our biggest supporters. They slowly became our brothers in quit during our fog. A brotherhood is not developed on day one, it is earned and worked for. These people we cannot see somehow became human beings that were truly rooting for us. Bigger than that, we were suddenly rooting for them.

Listen to IG2H, new newbies. I'm one of those that posts as early in the day as I can, and most days that is early afternoon, but I'm 100% on posting roll through 47 days. That is supposedly against the rules for those here that believe you have to post before you pee every morning, but if you're 100% through 47 days, those people can go suck on walnuts in my opinion. The point is, you simply have to post roll and make that daily promise. Your newly gained brothers expect it as much as you expect it out of them. I have remained quit for 47 days and I have quit brothers who support me. That IS good enough for me.

I am your brother in quit IG2H. Listen to him, new newbies!! The best brotherhood imaginable awaits you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tool shed on March 02, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
Nice IG2H, inspirational. Thanks for the post and thanks for supporting everyone here. We all need to do a better job of stepping up. You set a fine example I hope to follow.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 08, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Day 67, An odd day for me today. I had been cruising along these last few weeks. Thought my quit was rock solid, I mean I knew it was, uh I mean, I know it is. Shit, after today, I am not sure I know anything.

I step outside after a half day of work, blue sky, sun shining and a balmy 54 degrees. Instant crave I was not ready for. I have spent the last 67 days trapped in the cold, gray skied MI winter. I never would have dreamed that nice weather was a trigger. I got in my truck, (which was nearly out of gas), and whipped out of the structure. For the next 15 minutes while driving I experienced the single strongest craving in 67 days. It started as a thought, than became a temptation, and finally grew into a panic. At one point I started getting TMJ pain and began cracking my jaw, (an old nervous habit that I used to have when it really needed to scratch the nicotine itch).

I pulled into a gas station and slammed the car in park. I wasnt sure at that point if I was going inside for a tin or just stopping to get gas. But for the first time in 67 days, I had opened that door of possibility wide as hell. What the hell is wrong with me, I am thinking?

I immediately texted this message to 5 quit friends in my contact list. "SOS, I need a kick in the balls, not sure what is happening to me". Immediately my phone began ringing, not 1, not 2, not 3, but all 5 people called me, or texted some words of encouragement. I spent 5 or 10 minutes on the phone with a bad ass quitter from AZ, thanks JB. Within a few minutes I had my head out of my ass and I was carrying on with my day, still quit.

Incidentally I nearly missed posting roll today too. I was running late to work, having some problems with my lap top all week. I almost gave up and just said screw it, I will post tonight. Glad I got that post in. It would have been alot easier to cave if I hadnt made a promise.

Posted roll and used the tools. Whew, I am begining to see why people saw, "keep you guard up".
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Screw_the_Chew on March 08, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 67, An odd day for me today. I had been cruising along these last few weeks. Thought my quit was rock solid, I mean I knew it was, uh I mean, I know it is. Shit, after today, I am not sure I know anything.

I step outside after a half day of work, blue sky, sun shining and a balmy 54 degrees. Instant crave I was not ready for. I have spent the last 67 days trapped in the cold, gray skied MI winter. I never would have dreamed that nice weather was a trigger. I got in my truck, (which was nearly out of gas), and whipped out of the structure. For the next 15 minutes while driving I experienced the single strongest craving in 67 days. It started as a thought, than became a temptation, and finally grew into a panic. At one point I started getting TMJ pain and began cracking my jaw, (an old nervous habit that I used to have when it really needed to scratch the nicotine itch).

I pulled into a gas station and slammed the car in park. I wasnt sure at that point if I was going inside for a tin or just stopping to get gas. But for the first time in 67 days, I had opened that door of possibility wide as hell. What the hell is wrong with me, I am thinking?

I immediately texted this message to 5 quit friends in my contact list. "SOS, I need a kick in the balls, not sure what is happening to me". Immediately my phone began ringing, not 1, not 2, not 3, but all 5 people called me, or texted some words of encouragement. I spent 5 or 10 minutes on the phone with a bad ass quitter from AZ, thanks JB. Within a few minutes I had my head out of my ass and I was carrying on with my day, still quit.

Incidentally I nearly missed posting roll today too. I was running late to work, having some problems with my lap top all week. I am gave up and just said screw it, I will post tonight. Glad I got that post in. It would have been alot easier to cave if I hadnt made a promise.

Posted roll and used the tools. Whew, I am begining to see why people saw, "keep you guard up".
Warm weather is definitely a trigger for me; especially the first nice day of the season or in a long time. I think changes of emotion are a trigger and when there is a nice day, we get excited and that excitement turns into a craveÂ…..at least for me it does. I guess you never know when an unexpected trigger could set of a craveÂ…Â…BUT you didnÂ’t cave in my friend! ThatÂ’s great you had such support and quick responses from your quit buddies. Good job man. Stories like this are in inspiration to me.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on March 08, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: Screw_the_Chew
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 67, An odd day for me today.  I had been cruising along these last few weeks.  Thought my quit was rock solid, I mean I knew it was, uh I mean, I know it is.  Shit, after today, I am not sure I know anything.

I step outside after a half day of work, blue sky, sun shining and a balmy 54 degrees.  Instant crave I was not ready for.  I have spent the last 67 days trapped in the cold, gray skied MI winter.  I never would have dreamed that nice weather was a trigger.  I got in my truck, (which was nearly out of gas), and whipped out of the structure.  For the next 15 minutes while driving I experienced the single strongest craving in 67 days.  It started as a thought, than became a temptation, and finally grew into a panic.  At one point I started getting TMJ pain and began cracking my jaw, (an old nervous habit that I used to have when it really needed to scratch the nicotine itch).

I pulled into a gas station and slammed the car in park.  I wasnt sure at that point if I was going inside for a tin or just stopping to get gas.  But for the first time in 67 days, I had opened that door of possibility wide as hell.  What the hell is wrong with me, I am thinking?

I immediately texted this message to 5 quit friends in my contact list.  "SOS, I need a kick in the balls, not sure what is happening to me".  Immediately my phone began ringing, not 1, not 2, not 3, but all 5 people called me, or texted some words of encouragement.  I spent 5 or 10 minutes on the phone with a bad ass quitter from AZ, thanks JB.  Within a few minutes I had my head out of my ass and I was carrying on with my day, still quit. 

Incidentally I nearly missed posting roll today too.  I was running late to work, having some problems with my lap top all week.  I am gave up and just said screw it, I will post tonight.  Glad I got that post in.  It would have been alot easier to cave if I hadnt made a promise. 

Posted roll and used the tools. Whew, I am begining to see why people saw, "keep you guard up".
Warm weather is definitely a trigger for me; especially the first nice day of the season or in a long time. I think changes of emotion are a trigger and when there is a nice day, we get excited and that excitement turns into a craveÂ…..at least for me it does. I guess you never know when an unexpected trigger could set of a craveÂ…Â…BUT you didnÂ’t cave in my friend! ThatÂ’s great you had such support and quick responses from your quit buddies. Good job man. Stories like this are in inspiration to me.
Glad to help man. I will make time for anyone that sends out an SOS and hope that someone would do the same for me. Luckily I have a job that I can take 5 or 10 minutes out when needed (9 times out of 10) You got this shit, don't be afraid to use the tools given to you.

Proud to be quit with you today.

QLF!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tool shed on March 08, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Screw_the_Chew
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 67, An odd day for me today.  I had been cruising along these last few weeks.  Thought my quit was rock solid, I mean I knew it was, uh I mean, I know it is.  Shit, after today, I am not sure I know anything.

I step outside after a half day of work, blue sky, sun shining and a balmy 54 degrees.  Instant crave I was not ready for.  I have spent the last 67 days trapped in the cold, gray skied MI winter.  I never would have dreamed that nice weather was a trigger.  I got in my truck, (which was nearly out of gas), and whipped out of the structure.  For the next 15 minutes while driving I experienced the single strongest craving in 67 days.  It started as a thought, than became a temptation, and finally grew into a panic.  At one point I started getting TMJ pain and began cracking my jaw, (an old nervous habit that I used to have when it really needed to scratch the nicotine itch).

I pulled into a gas station and slammed the car in park.  I wasnt sure at that point if I was going inside for a tin or just stopping to get gas.  But for the first time in 67 days, I had opened that door of possibility wide as hell.  What the hell is wrong with me, I am thinking?

I immediately texted this message to 5 quit friends in my contact list.  "SOS, I need a kick in the balls, not sure what is happening to me".  Immediately my phone began ringing, not 1, not 2, not 3, but all 5 people called me, or texted some words of encouragement.  I spent 5 or 10 minutes on the phone with a bad ass quitter from AZ, thanks JB.  Within a few minutes I had my head out of my ass and I was carrying on with my day, still quit. 

Incidentally I nearly missed posting roll today too.  I was running late to work, having some problems with my lap top all week.  I am gave up and just said screw it, I will post tonight.  Glad I got that post in.  It would have been alot easier to cave if I hadnt made a promise. 

Posted roll and used the tools. Whew, I am begining to see why people saw, "keep you guard up".
Warm weather is definitely a trigger for me; especially the first nice day of the season or in a long time. I think changes of emotion are a trigger and when there is a nice day, we get excited and that excitement turns into a craveÂ…..at least for me it does. I guess you never know when an unexpected trigger could set of a craveÂ…Â…BUT you didnÂ’t cave in my friend! ThatÂ’s great you had such support and quick responses from your quit buddies. Good job man. Stories like this are in inspiration to me.
Glad to help man. I will make time for anyone that sends out an SOS and hope that someone would do the same for me. Luckily I have a job that I can take 5 or 10 minutes out when needed (9 times out of 10) You got this shit, don't be afraid to use the tools given to you.

Proud to be quit with you today.

QLF!
Really proud of you man. Thanks for the story, oddly it helps hearing that others struggle like me. Knowing this has a calming effect on me. I am quitting with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 10, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
Day 69 quit. Pulled off a few projects today that I have NEVER done without dip.

1. Mixed and stuffed 30# of venison italian sausage.
2. Cleaned out the garage.

These are both tasks for which I was 100% convinced that dip was required. That sounds silly to say outloud, even as I type this I think, "what a pathetic idiot". But after a lifetime spent dipping, that is the shit rattling around in my head. Addict bullshit is what it is. But until it is all dispelled, it is my truth. And that is my battle. I have lived my life chemically dependent. The past 69 days has shown me I can "survive" without it. Learning how to "actually live" is my next challenge. Conquering all the triggers that life throws at me and still choosing not to dip. Coping with tension and stress and dealing with life's problems and still choosing not to dip. Ok I better stop now, I think I am about to write an HOF here and I still have a month to go.

That bitch had me by the balls for decades. I guess now I am just taking back my life, 1 day at a time. Here's to small victories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on March 10, 2013, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 69 quit. Pulled off a few projects today that I have NEVER done without dip.

1. Mixed and stuffed 30# of venison italian sausage.
2. Cleaned out the garage.

These are both tasks for which I was 100% convinced that dip was required. That sounds silly to say outloud, even as I type this I think, "what a pathetic idiot". But after a lifetime spent dipping, that is the shit rattling around in my head. Addict bullshit is what it is. But until it is all dispelled, it is my truth. And that is my battle. I have lived my life chemically dependent. The past 69 days has shown me I can "survive" without it. Learning how to "actually live" is my next challenge. Conquering all the triggers that life throws at me and still choosing not to dip. Coping with tension and stress and dealing with life's problems and still choosing not to dip. Ok I better stop now, I think I am about to write an HOF here and I still have a month to go.

That bitch had me by the balls for decades. I guess now I am just taking back my life, 1 day at a time. Here's to small victories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice job bro
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tool shed on March 10, 2013, 10:10:00 PM
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 69 quit.  Pulled off a few projects today that I have NEVER done without dip.  

1. Mixed and stuffed 30# of venison italian sausage.
2. Cleaned out the garage.

These are both tasks for which I was 100% convinced that dip was required.  That sounds silly to say outloud, even as I type this I think, "what a pathetic idiot".  But after a lifetime spent dipping, that is the shit rattling around in my head.  Addict bullshit is what it is.  But until it is all dispelled, it is my truth.  And that is my battle.  I have lived my life chemically dependent.  The past 69 days has shown me I can "survive" without it.  Learning how to "actually live" is my next challenge.  Conquering all the triggers that life throws at me and still choosing not to dip.  Coping with tension and stress and dealing with life's problems and still choosing not to dip.  Ok I better stop now, I think I am about to write an HOF here and I still have a month to go. 

That bitch had me by the balls for decades.  I guess now I am just taking back my life, 1 day at a time.  Here's to small victories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice job bro
I don't need all 30 pounds of that sausage, 5 pounds would be good though. Thanks for the story. I am proud to quit with you today.

Shed
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Screw_the_Chew on March 11, 2013, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 69 quit. Pulled off a few projects today that I have NEVER done without dip.

1. Mixed and stuffed 30# of venison italian sausage.
2. Cleaned out the garage.

These are both tasks for which I was 100% convinced that dip was required. That sounds silly to say outloud, even as I type this I think, "what a pathetic idiot". But after a lifetime spent dipping, that is the shit rattling around in my head. Addict bullshit is what it is. But until it is all dispelled, it is my truth. And that is my battle. I have lived my life chemically dependent. The past 69 days has shown me I can "survive" without it. Learning how to "actually live" is my next challenge. Conquering all the triggers that life throws at me and still choosing not to dip. Coping with tension and stress and dealing with life's problems and still choosing not to dip. Ok I better stop now, I think I am about to write an HOF here and I still have a month to go.

That bitch had me by the balls for decades. I guess now I am just taking back my life, 1 day at a time. Here's to small victories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's awesome man! I sure know the feeling.

I have taxes coming up and I have NEVER done them without at least several dips. I'm not sure if you experience the same thing but when a task comes up that I always had a dip while doing, I get so unmotivated to the point where I just don't want to do the task at all. BUT I tell myself it's the nic Bitch talking and force myself to do it......haven't yet come across a task that I couldn't really do without dip; nor do I expect to.

In my opinion these triggers are by far the biggest antagonizes about the quit....and the thing is you can't predict them all. I'm right there with you man. It helps to post, share, and discuss these triggers and more importantly what we did to overcome them.

I'm only on day 8 but I'm quit with you too.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 15, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
70s funks are the real deal. Two blurry days in a row. I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone.

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal. What the hell is normal? I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal". It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done.

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day. But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am. It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses. I am not going back to nicotine. No way. I know there is nothing to gain by using. But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing.

Wife thinks I should seek medical help. Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something. Big fight over that yesterday and today. I think I just need more time. Any advice from the pros out there?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on March 15, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal. Two blurry days in a row. I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone.

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal. What the hell is normal? I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal". It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done.

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day. But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am. It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses. I am not going back to nicotine. No way. I know there is nothing to gain by using. But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing.

Wife thinks I should seek medical help. Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something. Big fight over that yesterday and today. I think I just need more time. Any advice from the pros out there?
It's a funk, not a black hole. You will come out of it. Patience. As you stated, your days quit to days posioned ratio is still jacked up. There is no fast toward button. Trust me, I searched the globe for it.

Also, you do not "lack the skill" to deal with real world stresses. Nicotine buried the bastards DEEP down inside your brain. They are there. They just need to be dug up again.

Meds? Do you feel a lot of anxiety? Have you had panic or anxiety attacks? If so then perhaps anti anxiety meds could help. Do you feel depressed, like waaaay down in the dumps, hopeless? If so maybe you could talk to your doc. He would be able to steer you better than I or anyone else could , here.

Your gonna pull through this man. Your in the suck zone but the end zone is near, keep fighting bro. Remember, this is not the rest of your life. Just a small snapshot of struggle that will lead you to freedom and a better life in the big picture.

Quit with you today! Proudly!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: evilearl on March 15, 2013, 05:12:00 PM
When the weather gets nice and I start working in the yard is going to be a challenge for me. I always dipped while working in the yard.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 15, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal.  Two blurry days in a row.  I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone. 

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal.  What the hell is normal?  I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal".  It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done. 

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day.  But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am.  It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses.  I am not going back to nicotine.  No way.  I know there is nothing to gain by using.  But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing. 

Wife thinks I should seek medical help.  Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something.  Big fight over that yesterday and today.  I think I just need more time.  Any advice from the pros out there?
It's a funk, not a black hole. You will come out of it. Patience. As you stated, your days quit to days posioned ratio is still jacked up. There is no fast toward button. Trust me, I searched the globe for it.

Also, you do not "lack the skill" to deal with real world stresses. Nicotine buried the bastards DEEP down inside your brain. They are there. They just need to be dug up again.

Meds? Do you feel a lot of anxiety? Have you had panic or anxiety attacks? If so then perhaps anti anxiety meds could help. Do you feel depressed, like waaaay down in the dumps, hopeless? If so maybe you could talk to your doc. He would be able to steer you better than I or anyone else could , here.

Your gonna pull through this man. Your in the suck zone but the end zone is near, keep fighting bro. Remember, this is not the rest of your life. Just a small snapshot of struggle that will lead you to freedom and a better life in the big picture.

Quit with you today! Proudly!!!
Anxiety, yeah a little bit. But it is episodic. All of a sudden I'll get a little panicked, like a crave, my jaw starts to hurt and I feel the need to crack it. Hard to focus on anything. It lasts a few minutes, maybe an hour, then subsides. The trouble is when someone is in my face during that time it can be ugly.

Depression, I really don't think so. My wife just sees me sitting around doing nothing a lot more than she has in the 17 years I have known her. She doesnt understand the changes I am going thru. She is used to me working my ass off 24/7, never sitting still, never slowing down. She is convinced I am depressed, I think I am just no longer drugged.

Hopeless? No, not hopeless at all. Actually hopeful, for the 1st time I can remember. Several years ago after a failed quit attempt, I resolved myself to the fact that I would never be free of dip. Now here I sit 74 days later, 100% convinced that I will not dip today and quite sure that tomorrow will be the same deal. I do not want it anymore.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Cant believe I am still bellyaching after 74 days, pretty pathetic. I should be at the point of helping others by now.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on March 15, 2013, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal. Two blurry days in a row. I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone.

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal. What the hell is normal? I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal". It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done.

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day. But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am. It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses. I am not going back to nicotine. No way. I know there is nothing to gain by using. But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing.

Wife thinks I should seek medical help. Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something. Big fight over that yesterday and today. I think I just need more time. Any advice from the pros out there?
It's a funk, not a black hole. You will come out of it. Patience. As you stated, your days quit to days posioned ratio is still jacked up. There is no fast toward button. Trust me, I searched the globe for it.

Also, you do not "lack the skill" to deal with real world stresses. Nicotine buried the bastards DEEP down inside your brain. They are there. They just need to be dug up again.

Meds? Do you feel a lot of anxiety? Have you had panic or anxiety attacks? If so then perhaps anti anxiety meds could help. Do you feel depressed, like waaaay down in the dumps, hopeless? If so maybe you could talk to your doc. He would be able to steer you better than I or anyone else could , here.

Your gonna pull through this man. Your in the suck zone but the end zone is near, keep fighting bro. Remember, this is not the rest of your life. Just a small snapshot of struggle that will lead you to freedom and a better life in the big picture.

Quit with you today! Proudly!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on March 15, 2013, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Diesel2112,Mar
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen,Mar
70s funks are the real deal.  Two blurry days in a row.  I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone. 

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal.  What the hell is normal?  I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal".  It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done. 

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day.  But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am.  It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses.  I am not going back to nicotine.  No way.  I know there is nothing to gain by using.  But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing. 

Wife thinks I should seek medical help.  Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something.  Big fight over that yesterday and today.  I think I just need more time.  Any advice from the pros out there?
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Anxiety, yeah a little bit. But it is episodic. All of a sudden I'll get a little panicked, like a crave, my jaw starts to hurt and I feel the need to crack it. Hard to focus on anything. It lasts a few minutes, maybe an hour, then subsides. The trouble is when someone is in my face during that time it can be ugly.

Depression, I really don't think so. My wife just sees me sitting around doing nothing a lot more than she has in the 17 years I have known her. She doesnt understand the changes I am going thru. She is used to me working my ass off 24/7, never sitting still, never slowing down. She is convinced I am depressed, I think I am just no longer drugged.

Hopeless? No, not hopeless at all. Actually hopeful, for the 1st time I can remember. Several years ago after a failed quit attempt, I resolved myself to the fact that I would never be free of dip. Now here I sit 74 days later, 100% convinced that I will not dip today and quite sure that tomorrow will be the same deal. I do not want it anymore.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Cant believe I am still bellyaching after 74 days, pretty pathetic. I should be at the point of helping others by now.
A lot of people funk in the 70's. Don't worry about helping others right now. Just worry about you. Nothing you are going through is abnormal. Just part of the process. Chin up little camper .
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Scowick65 on March 16, 2013, 12:24:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen,Mar
Quote from: Diesel2112,Mar
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen,Mar
70s funks are the real deal.  Two blurry days in a row.  I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone. 

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal.  What the hell is normal?  I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal".  It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done. 

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day.  But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am.  It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses.  I am not going back to nicotine.  No way.  I know there is nothing to gain by using.  But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing. 

Wife thinks I should seek medical help.  Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something.  Big fight over that yesterday and today.  I think I just need more time.  Any advice from the pros out there?
/QUOTE]
Anxiety, yeah a little bit. But it is episodic. All of a sudden I'll get a little panicked, like a crave, my jaw starts to hurt and I feel the need to crack it. Hard to focus on anything. It lasts a few minutes, maybe an hour, then subsides. The trouble is when someone is in my face during that time it can be ugly.

Depression, I really don't think so. My wife just sees me sitting around doing nothing a lot more than she has in the 17 years I have known her. She doesnt understand the changes I am going thru. She is used to me working my ass off 24/7, never sitting still, never slowing down. She is convinced I am depressed, I think I am just no longer drugged.

Hopeless? No, not hopeless at all. Actually hopeful, for the 1st time I can remember. Several years ago after a failed quit attempt, I resolved myself to the fact that I would never be free of dip. Now here I sit 74 days later, 100% convinced that I will not dip today and quite sure that tomorrow will be the same deal. I do not want it anymore.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Cant believe I am still bellyaching after 74 days, pretty pathetic. I should be at the point of helping others by now.
A lot of people funk in the 70's. Don't worry about helping others right now. Just worry about you. Nothing you are going through is abnormal. Just part of the process. Chin up little camper .
Great job on the quit! This is from SloalMonster. Nicotine does not fill the hole, it creates it. In due time you will create a new normal.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on March 16, 2013, 02:32:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal. Two blurry days in a row. I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone.

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal. What the hell is normal? I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal". It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done.

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day. But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am. It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses. I am not going back to nicotine. No way. I know there is nothing to gain by using. But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing.

Wife thinks I should seek medical help. Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something. Big fight over that yesterday and today. I think I just need more time. Any advice from the pros out there?
This is part of the fight for freedom from vice! You are simply on course and winning!

Rewiring. Between now and the hall, you are going to have a breakthrough and your wife is going to be so turned on by the man that smiles and loves...well loves living!!!!


It might be rough now but you have the faith that nicotine is a shit can of lies! You're being tested.
Just keep quitting and keep your word. Please trust me, it gets to be awesome and you are right, nicotine is just a shit can of lies.

Keep the faith brother, it gets better and worse but it is always better to live nic free!!!!

PS: you are venting here and not taking your healing out on loved ones right? Tell me to kiss your ass before you ever say it to you're wife. I can take it and dish it out. We do get it and venting here is a healthy way to cope.

Are you pissed? Then bring it bitch! Let it out and say whatever here.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: omahaflyer on March 16, 2013, 08:41:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal. Two blurry days in a row. I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone.

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal. What the hell is normal? I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal". It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done.

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day. But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am. It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses. I am not going back to nicotine. No way. I know there is nothing to gain by using. But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing.

Wife thinks I should seek medical help. Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something. Big fight over that yesterday and today. I think I just need more time. Any advice from the pros out there?
I have reached the conclusion that we all share each others victories and failures. I know after reading some posts of victories, big or small that it helps me with my quit. Please keep up the fight and take one day at a time. When you win ... I win.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 16, 2013, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal.  Two blurry days in a row.  I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone. 

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal.  What the hell is normal?  I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal".  It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done. 

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day.  But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am.  It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses.  I am not going back to nicotine.  No way.  I know there is nothing to gain by using.  But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing. 

Wife thinks I should seek medical help.  Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something.  Big fight over that yesterday and today.  I think I just need more time.  Any advice from the pros out there?
This is part of the fight for freedom from vice! You are simply on course and winning!

Rewiring. Between now and the hall, you are going to have a breakthrough and your wife is going to be so turned on by the man that smiles and loves...well loves living!!!!


It might be rough now but you have the faith that nicotine is a shit can of lies! You're being tested.
Just keep quitting and keep your word. Please trust me, it gets to be awesome and you are right, nicotine is just a shit can of lies.

Keep the faith brother, it gets better and worse but it is always better to live nic free!!!!

PS: you are venting here and not taking your healing out on loved ones right? Tell me to kiss your ass before you ever say it to you're wife. I can take it and dish it out. We do get it and venting here is a healthy way to cope.

Are you pissed? Then bring it bitch! Let it out and say whatever here.
Thanks for calling me out mthomas. Overall the interaction at home has been great and is improving. However, during these "funk" periods I am a dick. My patience is extremely thin. I realize that and try to create a little distance. Therein lies the problem. That distance or buffer I am trying to create is pissing my wife off. She thinks I should be fine by now. I am not trying to be an asshole, but this has been the main agruement.

I feel stupid for even venting about shit like this, I think it is small potatoes. Shit, I know there are people out there with real problems, UNEMPLOYED, FORECLOSURE, SICK CHILDREN, CANCER, ETC. And I am bellyaching about littel marriage squabbles. I think I just came to the conclusion that I don't need meds, maybe just a marriage counselor. I love her and feel profound guilt about putting her through this.

I guess the only reason I am writing this on here it that it is all nic related.

Here are the nic bitch whispers in my ear today, on day 75 of quit.

"are you willing to let your marriage suffer by denying me, I can make it better"

"dont post roll until tonight, give yourself the option in case today gets bad"

Addiction throw's major monkey wrenchs into relationships. Nicotine is no exception, perhaps on a different level than harder drugs,(cocaine, heroin meth, etc). But it is all the same in my book.

Keep quitting.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on March 16, 2013, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal.  Two blurry days in a row.  I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone. 

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal.  What the hell is normal?  I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal".  It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done. 

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day.  But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am.  It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses.  I am not going back to nicotine.  No way.  I know there is nothing to gain by using.  But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing. 

Wife thinks I should seek medical help.  Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something.  Big fight over that yesterday and today.  I think I just need more time.  Any advice from the pros out there?
This is part of the fight for freedom from vice! You are simply on course and winning!

Rewiring. Between now and the hall, you are going to have a breakthrough and your wife is going to be so turned on by the man that smiles and loves...well loves living!!!!


It might be rough now but you have the faith that nicotine is a shit can of lies! You're being tested.
Just keep quitting and keep your word. Please trust me, it gets to be awesome and you are right, nicotine is just a shit can of lies.

Keep the faith brother, it gets better and worse but it is always better to live nic free!!!!

PS: you are venting here and not taking your healing out on loved ones right? Tell me to kiss your ass before you ever say it to you're wife. I can take it and dish it out. We do get it and venting here is a healthy way to cope.

Are you pissed? Then bring it bitch! Let it out and say whatever here.
Thanks for calling me out mthomas. Overall the interaction at home has been great and is improving. However, during these "funk" periods I am a dick. My patience is extremely thin. I realize that and try to create a little distance. Therein lies the problem. That distance or buffer I am trying to create is pissing my wife off. She thinks I should be fine by now. I am not trying to be an asshole, but this has been the main agruement.

I feel stupid for even venting about shit like this, I think it is small potatoes. Shit, I know there are people out there with real problems, UNEMPLOYED, FORECLOSURE, SICK CHILDREN, CANCER, ETC. And I am bellyaching about littel marriage squabbles. I think I just came to the conclusion that I don't need meds, maybe just a marriage counselor. I love her and feel profound guilt about putting her through this.

I guess the only reason I am writing this on here it that it is all nic related.

Here are the nic bitch whispers in my ear today, on day 75 of quit.

"are you willing to let your marriage suffer by denying me, I can make it better"

"dont post roll until tonight, give yourself the option in case today gets bad"

Addiction throw's major monkey wrenchs into relationships. Nicotine is no exception, perhaps on a different level than harder drugs,(cocaine, heroin meth, etc). But it is all the same in my book.

Keep quitting.
Don't feel stupid, stupid. You have a lot on your mind. Holding all of it in would be stupid. You need to get it out. That's why we are here. We aren't ghey (well at least I'm not) but we do care and have some compassion for those who struggle. Mainly because we have been there before.

Its a kick in the balls process. How my wife and kids put up with me last summer is beyond me. I was a withdrawn asshoke.

"Dad, want to play catch????".
"NO DAD DOESN'T FEEL GOOD"

Hell I'm almost crying right now just recalling that moment, especially since their were many more like it.

HOWEVER...I am also almost in tears realising that I made it through all that SHIT. And I have become "Super Dad" again in my kids eyes, but even better than before.

I can play catch now without thinking about when I can dip next. We can go out to eat and I don't rush anyone to "hurry up" so I can get home to dip. I can come home from work and have a conversation with my wife without slamming a spoonful of peanutbutter before hand in an attempt to hide my dip breath. When my wife goes shopping I don't run to my bedroom close the door and tell my daughter who wants to cuddle and watch tv with me to "just stay out, Daddy doesn't feel good" as I lay in bed and watch tv not with my beautiful 7 yr old daughter but with a lip full of tobacco and a dirty ass aquafina bottle.

Sadly I could go on forever with pathetic ass stories like that. But what's the fucking use. The past is the past and there aint shit I can do to change it now.

Truth be told my wife and kids love me more now than they ever have. They have no competition now. They are priority #1 without exception. This morning I cooked them breakfast and let them help. We had a fucking blast. In the past...I would have gone out and bought a dozen doughnuts because I needed a dip.

Seems small and subtle but its stuff like that that makes my chest swell with pride and brings a triumphant tear to my eye.

Hang in there bro. I know sddiction is straining your relationship right now, but in the long run killing the can will be the best thing for it .

Proud to quit with every mother fucker on this site.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jhaenel23 on March 16, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
IG2H.....First of all.....you are a bad ass quitter!!!! I know it...You know it!!!!! Alright...Now we got that out of the way....


She has no idea what it is like to be an addict. Thank god for that!! But in the same breath.....She cannot relate to you....Cool thing for you is that WE CAN!!!!

Just keep bringing it here everyday bro!! IT WILL GET BETTER!!! Things will level out but you already have answered all of your questions!! 9000 Days of doing something is not going to change in 70 some days! But, 70 Days kicks ass!!!! You keep quitting and bringing your shit here and I promise to quit and read everytime!!! Quit with you!!

J
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on March 16, 2013, 10:57:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal.  Two blurry days in a row.  I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone. 

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal.  What the hell is normal?  I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal".  It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done. 

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day.  But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am.  It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses.  I am not going back to nicotine.  No way.  I know there is nothing to gain by using.  But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing. 

Wife thinks I should seek medical help.  Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something.  Big fight over that yesterday and today.  I think I just need more time.  Any advice from the pros out there?
This is part of the fight for freedom from vice! You are simply on course and winning!

Rewiring. Between now and the hall, you are going to have a breakthrough and your wife is going to be so turned on by the man that smiles and loves...well loves living!!!!


It might be rough now but you have the faith that nicotine is a shit can of lies! You're being tested.
Just keep quitting and keep your word. Please trust me, it gets to be awesome and you are right, nicotine is just a shit can of lies.

Keep the faith brother, it gets better and worse but it is always better to live nic free!!!!

PS: you are venting here and not taking your healing out on loved ones right? Tell me to kiss your ass before you ever say it to you're wife. I can take it and dish it out. We do get it and venting here is a healthy way to cope.

Are you pissed? Then bring it bitch! Let it out and say whatever here.
Thanks for calling me out mthomas. Overall the interaction at home has been great and is improving. However, during these "funk" periods I am a dick. My patience is extremely thin. I realize that and try to create a little distance. Therein lies the problem. That distance or buffer I am trying to create is pissing my wife off. She thinks I should be fine by now. I am not trying to be an asshole, but this has been the main agruement.

I feel stupid for even venting about shit like this, I think it is small potatoes. Shit, I know there are people out there with real problems, UNEMPLOYED, FORECLOSURE, SICK CHILDREN, CANCER, ETC. And I am bellyaching about littel marriage squabbles. I think I just came to the conclusion that I don't need meds, maybe just a marriage counselor. I love her and feel profound guilt about putting her through this.

I guess the only reason I am writing this on here it that it is all nic related.

Here are the nic bitch whispers in my ear today, on day 75 of quit.

"are you willing to let your marriage suffer by denying me, I can make it better"

"dont post roll until tonight, give yourself the option in case today gets bad"

Addiction throw's major monkey wrenchs into relationships. Nicotine is no exception, perhaps on a different level than harder drugs,(cocaine, heroin meth, etc). But it is all the same in my book.

Keep quitting.
Don't feel stupid, stupid. You have a lot on your mind. Holding all of it in would be stupid. You need to get it out. That's why we are here. We aren't ghey (well at least I'm not) but we do care and have some compassion for those who struggle. Mainly because we have been there before.

Its a kick in the balls process. How my wife and kids put up with me last summer is beyond me. I was a withdrawn asshoke.

"Dad, want to play catch????".
"NO DAD DOESN'T FEEL GOOD"

Hell I'm almost crying right now just recalling that moment, especially since their were many more like it.

HOWEVER...I am also almost in tears realising that I made it through all that SHIT. And I have become "Super Dad" again in my kids eyes, but even better than before.

I can play catch now without thinking about when I can dip next. We can go out to eat and I don't rush anyone to "hurry up" so I can get home to dip. I can come home from work and have a conversation with my wife without slamming a spoonful of peanutbutter before hand in an attempt to hide my dip breath. When my wife goes shopping I don't run to my bedroom close the door and tell my daughter who wants to cuddle and watch tv with me to "just stay out, Daddy doesn't feel good" as I lay in bed and watch tv not with my beautiful 7 yr old daughter but with a lip full of tobacco and a dirty ass aquafina bottle.

Sadly I could go on forever with pathetic ass stories like that. But what's the fucking use. The past is the past and there aint shit I can do to change it now.

Truth be told my wife and kids love me more now than they ever have. They have no competition now. They are priority #1 without exception. This morning I cooked them breakfast and let them help. We had a fucking blast. In the past...I would have gone out and bought a dozen doughnuts because I needed a dip.

Seems small and subtle but its stuff like that that makes my chest swell with pride and brings a triumphant tear to my eye.

Hang in there bro. I know sddiction is straining your relationship right now, but in the long run killing the can will be the best thing for it .

Proud to quit with every mother fucker on this site.
Diesel and MT always speak the truth. Story is the same over here. In my case, I didn't feel my brain really start to re-wire until 6 months. And only now, as I approach 1 year, do I believe that my brain has re-wired. But I am still an addict and need to fight that bitch every day.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on March 17, 2013, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal.  Two blurry days in a row.  I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone. 

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal.  What the hell is normal?  I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal".  It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done. 

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day.  But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am.  It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses.  I am not going back to nicotine.  No way.  I know there is nothing to gain by using.  But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing. 

Wife thinks I should seek medical help.  Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something.  Big fight over that yesterday and today.  I think I just need more time.  Any advice from the pros out there?
This is part of the fight for freedom from vice! You are simply on course and winning!

Rewiring. Between now and the hall, you are going to have a breakthrough and your wife is going to be so turned on by the man that smiles and loves...well loves living!!!!


It might be rough now but you have the faith that nicotine is a shit can of lies! You're being tested.
Just keep quitting and keep your word. Please trust me, it gets to be awesome and you are right, nicotine is just a shit can of lies.

Keep the faith brother, it gets better and worse but it is always better to live nic free!!!!

PS: you are venting here and not taking your healing out on loved ones right? Tell me to kiss your ass before you ever say it to you're wife. I can take it and dish it out. We do get it and venting here is a healthy way to cope.

Are you pissed? Then bring it bitch! Let it out and say whatever here.
Thanks for calling me out mthomas. Overall the interaction at home has been great and is improving. However, during these "funk" periods I am a dick. My patience is extremely thin. I realize that and try to create a little distance. Therein lies the problem. That distance or buffer I am trying to create is pissing my wife off. She thinks I should be fine by now. I am not trying to be an asshole, but this has been the main agruement.

I feel stupid for even venting about shit like this, I think it is small potatoes. Shit, I know there are people out there with real problems, UNEMPLOYED, FORECLOSURE, SICK CHILDREN, CANCER, ETC. And I am bellyaching about littel marriage squabbles. I think I just came to the conclusion that I don't need meds, maybe just a marriage counselor. I love her and feel profound guilt about putting her through this.

I guess the only reason I am writing this on here it that it is all nic related.

Here are the nic bitch whispers in my ear today, on day 75 of quit.

"are you willing to let your marriage suffer by denying me, I can make it better"

"dont post roll until tonight, give yourself the option in case today gets bad"

Addiction throw's major monkey wrenchs into relationships. Nicotine is no exception, perhaps on a different level than harder drugs,(cocaine, heroin meth, etc). But it is all the same in my book.

Keep quitting.
Don't feel stupid, stupid. You have a lot on your mind. Holding all of it in would be stupid. You need to get it out. That's why we are here. We aren't ghey (well at least I'm not) but we do care and have some compassion for those who struggle. Mainly because we have been there before.

Its a kick in the balls process. How my wife and kids put up with me last summer is beyond me. I was a withdrawn asshoke.

"Dad, want to play catch????".
"NO DAD DOESN'T FEEL GOOD"

Hell I'm almost crying right now just recalling that moment, especially since their were many more like it.

HOWEVER...I am also almost in tears realising that I made it through all that SHIT. And I have become "Super Dad" again in my kids eyes, but even better than before.

I can play catch now without thinking about when I can dip next. We can go out to eat and I don't rush anyone to "hurry up" so I can get home to dip. I can come home from work and have a conversation with my wife without slamming a spoonful of peanutbutter before hand in an attempt to hide my dip breath. When my wife goes shopping I don't run to my bedroom close the door and tell my daughter who wants to cuddle and watch tv with me to "just stay out, Daddy doesn't feel good" as I lay in bed and watch tv not with my beautiful 7 yr old daughter but with a lip full of tobacco and a dirty ass aquafina bottle.

Sadly I could go on forever with pathetic ass stories like that. But what's the fucking use. The past is the past and there aint shit I can do to change it now.

Truth be told my wife and kids love me more now than they ever have. They have no competition now. They are priority #1 without exception. This morning I cooked them breakfast and let them help. We had a fucking blast. In the past...I would have gone out and bought a dozen doughnuts because I needed a dip.

Seems small and subtle but its stuff like that that makes my chest swell with pride and brings a triumphant tear to my eye.

Hang in there bro. I know sddiction is straining your relationship right now, but in the long run killing the can will be the best thing for it .

Proud to quit with every mother fucker on this site.
Diesel and MT always speak the truth. Story is the same over here. In my case, I didn't feel my brain really start to re-wire until 6 months. And only now, as I approach 1 year, do I believe that my brain has re-wired. But I am still an addict and need to fight that bitch every day.
Addicts over complicate things.. when ever you start thinking to much about shit in general you're in a funk. Hunker down get through the day. Focus on 1 day at a time. EXERCISE.. any kind will help clear your mind, and you'll feel better as well. Tell your wife quitting nicotine is said to be harder than giving up heroin.. cut u some slack.. sickness  in health remember..? Or just have her read the wives section in here.. anyway as far as the anxiety meds go.. big pharm sucks ass.. as bad as tobacco.. proper exercise  diet will make you feel better...
peace
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 17, 2013, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
70s funks are the real deal.  Two blurry days in a row.  I am just fine as long as I can stick my head in a hole and not talk to anyone. 

Wife thinks I should snap my fingers and be back to normal.  What the hell is normal?  I have been poisoning my brain for at least 9000 days, 74 days nic free is great but I am realizing that I have not yet begun to "heal".  It is gonna take alot more than 2 months to undo the damage I have done. 

I wish I could say I am getting so much better mentally with each passing day.  But the truth is being quit has just shed the light on how emotionally incompetent I am.  It has made me realize that I lack the skills necessary to deal with real world stresses.  I am not going back to nicotine.  No way.  I know there is nothing to gain by using.  But I wish there was a way I could fast forward the healing. 

Wife thinks I should seek medical help.  Maybe get on anxiety meds or Wellbutrin or something.  Big fight over that yesterday and today.  I think I just need more time.  Any advice from the pros out there?
This is part of the fight for freedom from vice! You are simply on course and winning!

Rewiring. Between now and the hall, you are going to have a breakthrough and your wife is going to be so turned on by the man that smiles and loves...well loves living!!!!


It might be rough now but you have the faith that nicotine is a shit can of lies! You're being tested.
Just keep quitting and keep your word. Please trust me, it gets to be awesome and you are right, nicotine is just a shit can of lies.

Keep the faith brother, it gets better and worse but it is always better to live nic free!!!!

PS: you are venting here and not taking your healing out on loved ones right? Tell me to kiss your ass before you ever say it to you're wife. I can take it and dish it out. We do get it and venting here is a healthy way to cope.

Are you pissed? Then bring it bitch! Let it out and say whatever here.
Thanks for calling me out mthomas. Overall the interaction at home has been great and is improving. However, during these "funk" periods I am a dick. My patience is extremely thin. I realize that and try to create a little distance. Therein lies the problem. That distance or buffer I am trying to create is pissing my wife off. She thinks I should be fine by now. I am not trying to be an asshole, but this has been the main agruement.

I feel stupid for even venting about shit like this, I think it is small potatoes. Shit, I know there are people out there with real problems, UNEMPLOYED, FORECLOSURE, SICK CHILDREN, CANCER, ETC. And I am bellyaching about littel marriage squabbles. I think I just came to the conclusion that I don't need meds, maybe just a marriage counselor. I love her and feel profound guilt about putting her through this.

I guess the only reason I am writing this on here it that it is all nic related.

Here are the nic bitch whispers in my ear today, on day 75 of quit.

"are you willing to let your marriage suffer by denying me, I can make it better"

"dont post roll until tonight, give yourself the option in case today gets bad"

Addiction throw's major monkey wrenchs into relationships. Nicotine is no exception, perhaps on a different level than harder drugs,(cocaine, heroin meth, etc). But it is all the same in my book.

Keep quitting.
Don't feel stupid, stupid. You have a lot on your mind. Holding all of it in would be stupid. You need to get it out. That's why we are here. We aren't ghey (well at least I'm not) but we do care and have some compassion for those who struggle. Mainly because we have been there before.

Its a kick in the balls process. How my wife and kids put up with me last summer is beyond me. I was a withdrawn asshoke.

"Dad, want to play catch????".
"NO DAD DOESN'T FEEL GOOD"

Hell I'm almost crying right now just recalling that moment, especially since their were many more like it.

HOWEVER...I am also almost in tears realising that I made it through all that SHIT. And I have become "Super Dad" again in my kids eyes, but even better than before.

I can play catch now without thinking about when I can dip next. We can go out to eat and I don't rush anyone to "hurry up" so I can get home to dip. I can come home from work and have a conversation with my wife without slamming a spoonful of peanutbutter before hand in an attempt to hide my dip breath. When my wife goes shopping I don't run to my bedroom close the door and tell my daughter who wants to cuddle and watch tv with me to "just stay out, Daddy doesn't feel good" as I lay in bed and watch tv not with my beautiful 7 yr old daughter but with a lip full of tobacco and a dirty ass aquafina bottle.

Sadly I could go on forever with pathetic ass stories like that. But what's the fucking use. The past is the past and there aint shit I can do to change it now.

Truth be told my wife and kids love me more now than they ever have. They have no competition now. They are priority #1 without exception. This morning I cooked them breakfast and let them help. We had a fucking blast. In the past...I would have gone out and bought a dozen doughnuts because I needed a dip.

Seems small and subtle but its stuff like that that makes my chest swell with pride and brings a triumphant tear to my eye.

Hang in there bro. I know sddiction is straining your relationship right now, but in the long run killing the can will be the best thing for it .

Proud to quit with every mother fucker on this site.
Diesel and MT always speak the truth. Story is the same over here. In my case, I didn't feel my brain really start to re-wire until 6 months. And only now, as I approach 1 year, do I believe that my brain has re-wired. But I am still an addict and need to fight that bitch every day.
Addicts over complicate things.. when ever you start thinking to much about shit in general you're in a funk. Hunker down get through the day. Focus on 1 day at a time. EXERCISE.. any kind will help clear your mind, and you'll feel better as well. Tell your wife quitting nicotine is said to be harder than giving up heroin.. cut u some slack.. sickness  in health remember..? Or just have her read the wives section in here.. anyway as far as the anxiety meds go.. big pharm sucks ass.. as bad as tobacco.. proper exercise  diet will make you feel better...
peace

Thanks for all the responses and feedback, PMs, texts and direct responses to the thread. I have some pretty solid combined wisdom here.

I had some bad shit rolling around in my head. The quit is still solid, I am just realizing that I have some work to do. I spent my entire adult life responding to stressul situations under the influence of nicotine. Now I just need to learn how to do it without.

Feeling much better today. There were many factors that contributed to my haze, but one of them is that I tried to step away from the site a little bit last week.

WRONG ANSWER

Not yet, and maybe not ever. I feel the strongest in my quit when I immerse myself in this shit. It keeps me understanding what is important. There have also been times where I felt strong while helping a week 1 or week 2 quitter. They say teaching is the best way to learn.

Over the last 24 hrs I have also done the following:

re-read my entire intro
re-read portions of Allen Carr book
re-read all the skoal monster wisdom I saved on my desk top a month or 2 ago
re-read wastepanels cave story

Thanks for all the support, I am back on track again. Everyday doesn't have to be GREAT, it just has to be QUIT. I got this covered. 'archer'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 24, 2013, 09:51:00 AM
I attended a fundraiser dinner for SCI last night. I was dumbfounded by the number of people that dip at those things. I guess I never noticed before because I was one of them. It was strange to view the addict behavior as a non-user. Everyone walking around with a fat lip, spit cup in one hand, drink in the other hand. It was disgusting and repulsive.

I am very happy to wake up this morning without regret. I have drank only a few times since quitting, but not large quantities and mostly just in the safety of my home. Prior to quitting I drank alot of beer, almost daily, and a shit ton on the weekends. I did not intend to give up drinking when I quit dipping, but I just didnt have the desire to drink. Which in hindsite happened to be just a great side benefit of quitting dip. Funny how that works, (Divine Providence I believe).

Last night however, I tore it up. And I am hungover as hell this morning. Open bar all night and I indulged, over-indulged actually. My inhibitions were way down and I was profoundly vulnerable. Probably not the smartest thing I have ever done, but I did it. On several occassions last night I had someone pack a dip in front of me and then flip me their can.

The addict in me wanted that dip badly. But check this out..................it felt so damn good to throw that can back and say the following, "fuck that, I don't do that shit anymore, 82 days free". This was the 1st time I actually turned down the offer to "have a dip". I know that I turn it down everyday, but this just seemed different. That stops people in their tracks. They give you a disbelieving look. Early in my quit I had a shitty attitude, and I spent alot of time feeling sorry for myself. But right there, at that moment, in that place, I did not feel sorry for self at all. I felt pride. It was the first time I got to publically speak of my accomplishment, and it felt pretty damn good.

It was really the first time in 82 days that I had the real opportunity to just throw one in. It would have been easy to cave. No premeditation, no driving to the store, no thinking it through. I could have blown it just that easy. It pays dividends to be prepared. Out in my truck I had seeds, jerkey and fake, just in case. And guess what I did on the way out to get it....................called a quitter. Thanks Sportsfan. And thank you to all the texters that told me they had my back before I even left for the event, Cmark, dboelker, jbradley, dipweasel,morgan1, diplessinjax, nickald, cdaniels, 2mch2lv4.

Thank God for KTC, thank God for quit friends. It is great to be winning this fight. I quit with all of you again today, now I am going back to bed.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Sportsfan231 on March 24, 2013, 10:12:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I attended a fundraiser dinner for SCI last night. I was dumbfounded by the number of people that dip at those things. I guess I never noticed before because I was one of them. It was strange to view the addict behavior as a non-user. Everyone walking around with a fat lip, spit cup in one hand, drink in the other hand. It was disgusting and repulsive.

I am very happy to wake up this morning without regret. I have drank only a few times since quitting, but not large quantities and mostly just in the safety of my home. Prior to quitting I drank alot of beer, almost daily, and a shit ton on the weekends. I did not intend to give up drinking when I quit dipping, but I just didnt have the desire to drink. Which in hindsite happened to be just a great side benefit of quitting dip. Funny how that works, (Divine Providence I believe).

Last night however, I tore it up. And I am hungover as hell this morning. Open bar all night and I indulged, over-indulged actually. My inhibitions were way down and I was profoundly vulnerable. Probably not the smartest thing I have ever done, but I did it. On several occassions last night I had someone pack a dip in front of me and then flip me their can.

The addict in me wanted that dip badly. But check this out..................it felt so damn good to throw that can back and say the following, "fuck that, I don't do that shit anymore, 82 days free". This was the 1st time I actually turned down the offer to "have a dip". I know that I turn it down everyday, but this just seemed different. That stops people in their tracks. They give you a disbelieving look. Early in my quit I had a shitty attitude, and I spent alot of time feeling sorry for myself. But right there, at that moment, in that place, I did not feel sorry for self at all. I felt pride. It was the first time I got to publically speak of my accomplishment, and it felt pretty damn good.

It was really the first time in 82 days that I had the real opportunity to just throw one in. It would have been easy to cave. No premeditation, no driving to the store, no thinking it through. I could have blown it just that easy. It pays dividends to be prepared. Out in my truck I had seeds, jerkey and fake, just in case. And guess what I did on the way out to get it....................called a quitter. Thanks Sportsfan. And thank you to all the texters that told me they had my back before I even left for the event, Cmark, dboelker, jbradley, dipweasel,morgan1, diplessinjax, nickald, cdaniels, 2mch2lv4.

Thank God for KTC, thank God for quit friends. It is great to be winning this fight. I quit with all of you again today, now I am going back to bed.
glad you called and also glad you picked up some fake stuff which you have not used your whole quit. keep up the good work and you used the tools that KTC has gave us to beat the nic bitch
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on March 24, 2013, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I attended a fundraiser dinner for SCI last night.  I was dumbfounded by the number of people that dip at those things.  I guess I never noticed before because I was one of them.  It was strange to view the addict behavior as a non-user.  Everyone walking around with a fat lip, spit cup in one hand, drink in the other hand.  It was disgusting and repulsive.

I am very happy to wake up this morning without regret.  I have drank only a few times since quitting, but not large quantities and mostly just in the safety of my home.  Prior to quitting I drank alot of beer, almost daily, and a shit ton on the weekends.  I did not intend to give up drinking when I quit dipping, but I just didnt have the desire to drink.  Which in hindsite happened to be just a great side benefit of quitting dip.  Funny how that works, (Divine Providence I believe). 

Last night however, I tore it up.  And I am hungover as hell this morning.  Open bar all night and I indulged, over-indulged actually.  My inhibitions were way down and I was profoundly vulnerable.  Probably not the smartest thing I have ever done, but I did it.  On several occassions last night I had someone pack a dip in front of me and then flip me their can. 

The addict in me wanted that dip badly.  But check this out..................it felt so damn good to throw that can back and say the following, "fuck that, I don't do that shit anymore, 82 days free".  This was the 1st time I actually turned down the offer to "have a dip".  I know that I turn it down everyday, but this just seemed different.  That stops people in their tracks.  They give you a disbelieving look.  Early in my quit I had a shitty attitude, and I spent alot of time feeling sorry for myself.  But right there, at that moment, in that place, I did not feel sorry for self at all.  I felt pride.  It was the first time I got to publically speak of my accomplishment, and it felt pretty damn good. 

It was really the first time in 82 days that I had the real opportunity to just throw one in.  It would have been easy to cave.  No premeditation, no driving to the store, no thinking it through.  I could have blown it just that easy.  It pays dividends to be prepared.  Out in my truck I had seeds, jerkey and fake, just in case.  And guess what I did on the way out to get it....................called a quitter.  Thanks Sportsfan.  And thank you to all the texters that told me they had my back before I even left for the event, Cmark, dboelker, jbradley, dipweasel,morgan1, diplessinjax, nickald, cdaniels, 2mch2lv4.

Thank God for KTC, thank God for quit friends.  It is great to be winning this fight.  I quit with all of you again today, now I am going back to bed.
glad you called and also glad you picked up some fake stuff which you have not used your whole quit. keep up the good work and you used the tools that KTC has gave us to beat the nic bitch
As you said probably not the smartest thing you have done for your quit, but congrats on making it through...

Proud to be quit with you today!

Use the tools, make yourself accountable, find the brotherhood, and you will have success!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: copingwithoutcopen on March 24, 2013, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I attended a fundraiser dinner for SCI last night.  I was dumbfounded by the number of people that dip at those things.  I guess I never noticed before because I was one of them.  It was strange to view the addict behavior as a non-user.  Everyone walking around with a fat lip, spit cup in one hand, drink in the other hand.  It was disgusting and repulsive.

I am very happy to wake up this morning without regret.  I have drank only a few times since quitting, but not large quantities and mostly just in the safety of my home.  Prior to quitting I drank alot of beer, almost daily, and a shit ton on the weekends.  I did not intend to give up drinking when I quit dipping, but I just didnt have the desire to drink.  Which in hindsite happened to be just a great side benefit of quitting dip.  Funny how that works, (Divine Providence I believe). 

Last night however, I tore it up.  And I am hungover as hell this morning.  Open bar all night and I indulged, over-indulged actually.  My inhibitions were way down and I was profoundly vulnerable.  Probably not the smartest thing I have ever done, but I did it.  On several occassions last night I had someone pack a dip in front of me and then flip me their can. 

The addict in me wanted that dip badly.  But check this out..................it felt so damn good to throw that can back and say the following, "fuck that, I don't do that shit anymore, 82 days free".  This was the 1st time I actually turned down the offer to "have a dip".  I know that I turn it down everyday, but this just seemed different.  That stops people in their tracks.  They give you a disbelieving look.  Early in my quit I had a shitty attitude, and I spent alot of time feeling sorry for myself.  But right there, at that moment, in that place, I did not feel sorry for self at all.  I felt pride.  It was the first time I got to publically speak of my accomplishment, and it felt pretty damn good. 

It was really the first time in 82 days that I had the real opportunity to just throw one in.  It would have been easy to cave.  No premeditation, no driving to the store, no thinking it through.  I could have blown it just that easy.  It pays dividends to be prepared.  Out in my truck I had seeds, jerkey and fake, just in case.  And guess what I did on the way out to get it....................called a quitter.  Thanks Sportsfan.  And thank you to all the texters that told me they had my back before I even left for the event, Cmark, dboelker, jbradley, dipweasel,morgan1, diplessinjax, nickald, cdaniels, 2mch2lv4.

Thank God for KTC, thank God for quit friends.  It is great to be winning this fight.  I quit with all of you again today, now I am going back to bed.
glad you called and also glad you picked up some fake stuff which you have not used your whole quit. keep up the good work and you used the tools that KTC has gave us to beat the nic bitch
As you said probably not the smartest thing you have done for your quit, but congrats on making it through...

Proud to be quit with you today!

Use the tools, make yourself accountable, find the brotherhood, and you will have success!
Outfuckinstanding!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: CleanFuel on March 24, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I attended a fundraiser dinner for SCI last night.  I was dumbfounded by the number of people that dip at those things.  I guess I never noticed before because I was one of them.  It was strange to view the addict behavior as a non-user.  Everyone walking around with a fat lip, spit cup in one hand, drink in the other hand.  It was disgusting and repulsive.

I am very happy to wake up this morning without regret.  I have drank only a few times since quitting, but not large quantities and mostly just in the safety of my home.  Prior to quitting I drank alot of beer, almost daily, and a shit ton on the weekends.  I did not intend to give up drinking when I quit dipping, but I just didnt have the desire to drink.  Which in hindsite happened to be just a great side benefit of quitting dip.  Funny how that works, (Divine Providence I believe). 

Last night however, I tore it up.  And I am hungover as hell this morning.  Open bar all night and I indulged, over-indulged actually.  My inhibitions were way down and I was profoundly vulnerable.  Probably not the smartest thing I have ever done, but I did it.  On several occassions last night I had someone pack a dip in front of me and then flip me their can. 

The addict in me wanted that dip badly.  But check this out..................it felt so damn good to throw that can back and say the following, "fuck that, I don't do that shit anymore, 82 days free".  This was the 1st time I actually turned down the offer to "have a dip".  I know that I turn it down everyday, but this just seemed different.  That stops people in their tracks.  They give you a disbelieving look.  Early in my quit I had a shitty attitude, and I spent alot of time feeling sorry for myself.  But right there, at that moment, in that place, I did not feel sorry for self at all.  I felt pride.  It was the first time I got to publically speak of my accomplishment, and it felt pretty damn good. 

It was really the first time in 82 days that I had the real opportunity to just throw one in.  It would have been easy to cave.  No premeditation, no driving to the store, no thinking it through.  I could have blown it just that easy.  It pays dividends to be prepared.  Out in my truck I had seeds, jerkey and fake, just in case.  And guess what I did on the way out to get it....................called a quitter.  Thanks Sportsfan.  And thank you to all the texters that told me they had my back before I even left for the event, Cmark, dboelker, jbradley, dipweasel,morgan1, diplessinjax, nickald, cdaniels, 2mch2lv4.

Thank God for KTC, thank God for quit friends.  It is great to be winning this fight.  I quit with all of you again today, now I am going back to bed.
glad you called and also glad you picked up some fake stuff which you have not used your whole quit. keep up the good work and you used the tools that KTC has gave us to beat the nic bitch
As you said probably not the smartest thing you have done for your quit, but congrats on making it through...

Proud to be quit with you today!

Use the tools, make yourself accountable, find the brotherhood, and you will have success!
Outfuckinstanding!
I just came in my pants....

KA-BOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 09, 2013, 10:14:00 PM
100 days tomorrow. It has been a good ride so far. I enjoyed reflecting on the past 3 months as I wrote the HOF speech. I have so many people to thank.

I have only 1 regret about quitting. Why the hell did I wait so long? I guess it was because I was convinced it wasn't possible. That is all different now. Thanks KTC.

Ryan


Here it is.


index.php?showtopic=8088 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8088)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jaynellie on April 10, 2013, 12:16:00 AM
Brother 1 word to describe that HOF speech= FUCKINGAWESOME......

Thank you for sharing that time in your life.YOU have strengthened my quit with your words.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Dlee3 on April 10, 2013, 12:50:00 AM
Congrats IG2H!! I know what it's been like for you and I'm proud of you and for you. Excellent HOF speech. I noticed in your intro how different you sound after only 100 days. Amazing, ain't it?

100 is not the end and you know that. You got this and we got this. Proud to be an April brother with you and everybody else.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on April 10, 2013, 01:14:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
100 days tomorrow. It has been a good ride so far. I enjoyed reflecting on the past 3 months as I wrote the HOF speech. I have so many people to thank.

I have only 1 regret about quitting. Why the hell did I wait so long? I guess it was because I was convinced it wasn't possible. That is all different now. Thanks KTC.

Ryan


Here it is.


index.php?showtopic=8088 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8088)
100 days already? Damn. That went fast (to me LOL) Great work.

Thought we were gonna lose you a couple times there. Way to scratch, fight, and claw. Not any ass hat can do what you just did.

I have a sense you are still struggling a little bit. Maybe I'm wrong, but just take a few steps back and take some big ass deep breaths and really think about what you just did.

Its amazing.

Celebrate my man. The HOF is a place for fucking champions. Welcome to the club.

Quite a journey your on sir, but remember...

The point of a journey is not to arrive but the point of departure is not to return.

Quit on!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tool shed on April 10, 2013, 06:11:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
100 days tomorrow.  It has been a good ride so far.  I enjoyed reflecting on the past 3 months as I wrote the HOF speech.  I have so many people to thank.

I have only 1 regret about quitting.  Why the hell did I wait so long?  I guess it was because I was convinced it wasn't possible.  That is all different now.  Thanks KTC.

Ryan


Here it is.


index.php?showtopic=8088 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8088)
100 days already? Damn. That went fast (to me LOL) Great work.

Thought we were gonna lose you a couple times there. Way to scratch, fight, and claw. Not any ass hat can do what you just did.

I have a sense you are still struggling a little bit. Maybe I'm wrong, but just take a few steps back and take some big ass deep breaths and really think about what you just did.

Its amazing.

Celebrate my man. The HOF is a place for fucking champions. Welcome to the club.

Quite a journey your on sir, but remember...

The point of a journey is not to arrive but the point of departure is not to return.

Quit on!!!!
This is a great thing to see Ryan. I am not sure of what "success" is in this endeavor but I suspect it is a series of steps that we measure in minutes for the fist few days, hours for the next week, and days for the rest of our lives. Success includes staying clean from nicotine but also helping others. You are succeeding on both counts. Milestones like this are to be celebrated, congrats.

Shed
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 10, 2013, 06:29:00 AM
Quote from: Tool
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
100 days tomorrow.  It has been a good ride so far.  I enjoyed reflecting on the past 3 months as I wrote the HOF speech.  I have so many people to thank.

I have only 1 regret about quitting.  Why the hell did I wait so long?  I guess it was because I was convinced it wasn't possible.  That is all different now.  Thanks KTC.

Ryan


Here it is.


index.php?showtopic=8088 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8088)
100 days already? Damn. That went fast (to me LOL) Great work.

Thought we were gonna lose you a couple times there. Way to scratch, fight, and claw. Not any ass hat can do what you just did.

I have a sense you are still struggling a little bit. Maybe I'm wrong, but just take a few steps back and take some big ass deep breaths and really think about what you just did.

Its amazing.

Celebrate my man. The HOF is a place for fucking champions. Welcome to the club.

Quite a journey your on sir, but remember...

The point of a journey is not to arrive but the point of departure is not to return.

Quit on!!!!
This is a great thing to see Ryan. I am not sure of what "success" is in this endeavor but I suspect it is a series of steps that we measure in minutes for the fist few days, hours for the next week, and days for the rest of our lives. Success includes staying clean from nicotine but also helping others. You are succeeding on both counts. Milestones like this are to be celebrated, congrats.

Shed
Though I may struggle, I have my eye on the prize. As I said in the HOF speech, 100 days is a good start. I have a lifetime to get better at this, and get better I will.

Oh this just popped up after I hit send, it is a post of mine from Jan 7th. Jan 7th, (Day 7) There are some bad ass quitters on here today. I am excited to be one of them. I got a dose of reality today on the way to work though. I was happy to feel better last night, I felt so good I could have written HOF, hell no, long way to go, felt like day 2 again, cried like a baby all the way to work. Can't drink coffee anymore either. I hate this nasty addiction. Fuck the nic bitch and fuck the millionaire industry.


I never want to be there again, I remember how I felt that day. And guess what, I can drink coffee again :), just not as much. See you tomorrow, Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tool shed on April 10, 2013, 07:29:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Tool
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
100 days tomorrow.  It has been a good ride so far.  I enjoyed reflecting on the past 3 months as I wrote the HOF speech.  I have so many people to thank.

I have only 1 regret about quitting.  Why the hell did I wait so long?  I guess it was because I was convinced it wasn't possible.  That is all different now.  Thanks KTC.

Ryan


Here it is.


index.php?showtopic=8088 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8088)
100 days already? Damn. That went fast (to me LOL) Great work.

Thought we were gonna lose you a couple times there. Way to scratch, fight, and claw. Not any ass hat can do what you just did.

I have a sense you are still struggling a little bit. Maybe I'm wrong, but just take a few steps back and take some big ass deep breaths and really think about what you just did.

Its amazing.

Celebrate my man. The HOF is a place for fucking champions. Welcome to the club.

Quite a journey your on sir, but remember...

The point of a journey is not to arrive but the point of departure is not to return.

Quit on!!!!
This is a great thing to see Ryan. I am not sure of what "success" is in this endeavor but I suspect it is a series of steps that we measure in minutes for the fist few days, hours for the next week, and days for the rest of our lives. Success includes staying clean from nicotine but also helping others. You are succeeding on both counts. Milestones like this are to be celebrated, congrats.

Shed
Though I may struggle, I have my eye on the prize. As I said in the HOF speech, 100 days is a good start. I have a lifetime to get better at this, and get better I will.

Oh this just popped up after I hit send, it is a post of mine from Jan 7th. Jan 7th, (Day 7) There are some bad ass quitters on here today. I am excited to be one of them. I got a dose of reality today on the way to work though. I was happy to feel better last night, I felt so good I could have written HOF, hell no, long way to go, felt like day 2 again, cried like a baby all the way to work. Can't drink coffee anymore either. I hate this nasty addiction. Fuck the nic bitch and fuck the millionaire industry.


I never want to be there again, I remember how I felt that day. And guess what, I can drink coffee again :), just not as much. See you tomorrow, Ryan
Amen Brother. Avoiding ever having to repeat those first few days is a powerful motivator. Congrats again and thanks for all you have done to positively impact others.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mich 34 on April 10, 2013, 10:37:00 AM
Way to go Ryan! Damn nice start with 100 days down. It's great seeing how your quit has changed focus from scratching to keep yourself quit for another day to being there to support the guys who are at that point right now, keep up the great work man!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Kubrick on April 10, 2013, 11:47:00 AM
'worship' 'Cheers' 'wave' 'band' 'party' 'oh yeah' 'dance' 'party2' 'chew2' 'clap' 'clap'

Congrats man! Glad to see you here.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on April 11, 2013, 12:49:00 AM
Congrats man, you have come a long way. Proud to be quit with you today!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 11, 2013, 06:23:00 AM
Quote from: jbradley
Congrats man, you have come a long way. Proud to be quit with you today!
Thanks JB, and thanks for being around consistently. You helped me out of a couple of tough spots. Keep in touch man.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 14, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Celebrating firsts is pretty cool. Today is my first birthday being quit. I dig that.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Dlee3 on April 14, 2013, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Celebrating firsts is pretty cool. Today is my first birthday being quit. I dig that.
Happy birthday, dude. Tomorrow is my daughter's eighth bday and the first in her life that I am dip-free. Equally cool.

And if I forgot to tell you, CONGRATS on the Hall!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: rickddd on April 14, 2013, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Celebrating firsts is pretty cool. Today is my first birthday being quit. I dig that.
That is really cool, Ryan! Congrats on your hard work so far, and stay quit brotha!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: copingwithoutcopen on April 21, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/2weeks.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/2weeks.asp)

This is the link for the two week weakness. Very common to struggle all of a sudden around this time. It's short lived so don't stress on it.

I reccommended a book by Alan Carr - here it is on PDF.
http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5 ... 34a829.pdf (http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf)

It isn't attitude. But it is all mental games for the next couple months. Remember this is Chess not checkers. Your inner addict is going to try to outsmart you at every turn. Thats the value of posting up your thoughts here. This place works like a mirror that will reflect back the truth. You can fool yourself, and probably some of us, but never all of us. Mostly because we all stood where you stand now. We know.

Don't hide the fact your struggling, your here for support.

Your original post raised alarm because you were creating reasons to start again. Thats known as use justification.

You and I both know that you actually DONT want to dip again. What you want is to feel normal. You needed nicotine to feel that way and so did I. The truth is that we were normal before we ever started using. Then eventually we had to use just to maintain normal.

Once you've kept quit for awhile you will return to feeling good without nicotine. Your no longer physically dependant on a drug to make you feel ok.

Be patient my friend, 13 days of quit is awesome, but it can't undo all the damage. Give it time. Until then try to push past all this and start enjoying life without nic.

Also Maybe this will help
Quote
THE VOID

Silly rabbits, nicotine wasn't filling the void it was creating it.

What exactly is it that your foggy mind imagines you lost? The only thing that chew is good for is to keep you addicted to chew.

You think you miss it? Is it the morning ritual of scraping the dead skin off your lip? Did it make you a better husband, father, son. Perhaps you miss being tethered to a dripping sewer of a spitter. I know!!! It made you smarter and the lump in your lip was a real hit with the ladies . You didn't lose anything , instead you have gained everything, perhaps your very life.

Nothing to miss thats all illusion created by the addiction

"Bullshit" you say "I remember that it was good and I liked it"
You miss that good dip? the perfect wedge that you think you remember. I bet you have a romantic memory , mine is of dipping in the bleachers at the highschool game on Friday night. (Secret for you) That's not the dip you get when you cave. Ohhhh nooooo buttercup, you get a dip that was just like your LAST ONE. Remember that lame chew? The one you had to have just to feed your habit, you had to think about where to put it because everywhere else hurt. Except this dip will be full of guilt and shame and failure. How could you start again when you have read the Tom Kern story? or looked at ODT's cancer surgery, or spent any time here at all?

Don't romanticize your addiction, if it was so great why did you want to stop in the first place.

It isnt the one good chew you get when you fail , its the 10,000 shitty chews that will come with it. How long will it take you to get back to 30 days of freedom? How long did it take you this time? for me it was years in between quits. You can't risk that, how many chances until you look your son or daughter in the eyes and tell them you killed yourself? and you did it on purpose. The next dip could be the one
that kills you. It isn't likely but the possibility is there. Jenny Kern said the odds of getting cancer from chew don't matter if your the one that gets it. Just sayin

Still on the fence eh, " it was always there for me" and " it would calm me down" you mumble. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor it raises your blood pressure. It is also a stimulant. Sounds calming alright . More illusions of your nicotine soaked cerabellum. When you are angry you produce chemicals like adrenaline and cortisol. These literally take the nic out of your blood stream. So you go into withdrawl. So....we...would have a dip, and feel better. The calm you felt... was only the relief from withdrawl.

But we all believed it was THE DIP that calmed us, it was in reality the DIP that caused alot of the stress. Nicotine creating a void (can you see it yet)

The feel better high you seek, the replacement for your so called void? I think PBkids shrink friend was close but not quite there. If you can admit the void is caused by nicotine and your addiction, then the opposite must be true as well. Recovery from the addiction will fill the void. You can see this prove out in your own group and those ahead of you. Posts such as it was great to hang out with my kid and not worry about a place to spit or a spitter. Posts on how nice it feels to not HAVE to lie and hide. How proud you feel, how proud your loved ones are. Those feelings of relief, calm , become more and more as your quit progresses. THAT my addict brethren will fill the void, THAT is the good and the positive stuff that your already working for. (another secret) it's worth it and it feels so much better than you do now.

your body has to heal, your mind needs to heal. Dip literally changes the way your brain works, and it changes how your body produces and uses all of its feel good chemicals. It effects serotonin and adrenaline. The fog in my opinion is created by a lack of chemical production when your brain is trying to figure out what the hell to do with out a steady stream of posion ( you knew that nicotine is a potent neurotoxin right). Anti depressants act on the same chemicals that nic did. Coincidence that Wellbutrin does the same thing? You may feel depressed, the funk, the fog, the blahs and the fuck its. It hits with a repeatable timing in all the groups. Common sense tells you that a pattern that occurs across every group could be reality.This is your brain healing. Literally nicotine receptors are dying and new neuro pathways are forming. This is the price you must pay to earn your freedom. Embrace it. Rkymtnman gave you the best piece of advice yet. Excercise, Yes you frito lay lovin pork rind munching fattys need to get off your collective asses and excercise. Walking counts if you put some distance there. Excercise works on your body just like the rest of the stuff above. Excercise releases endorphins that will help you feel better. It is scientifically proven that you will have less craves and less severe craves AND a larger number of you droolers will stay quit. Thor's Pajammer is correct with meditation, check out what meditation does to brain chemistry as well. Its all the same , help yourself and take a walk.

As Forest Gump says thats all I have to say about that. Sorry for the long post, I hope it helps. It is really just a collection of things I've picked up from those who helped me. Some is from posts you'll find if you dig hard enough. One day at a time buttercups. If I can do it so can you. Now seriously put the pickle down and buy a ab roller.

Quitting can really be the easiest hard thing you'll ever do. Or it can be the hardest easy thing. Depends on how you flip the switch in your mind.

sM 
Good to see you in chat Ryan... Made me wanna go back and look at your intro. I hope you don't mind that I bounce this little gem up top. Stay strong brothers!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Winter Green on April 21, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Celebrating firsts is pretty cool. Today is my first birthday being quit. I dig that.
gj bro
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 22, 2013, 05:50:00 AM
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: Skoal
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/2weeks.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/2weeks.asp)

This is the link for the two week weakness.  Very common to struggle all of a sudden around this time. It's short lived so don't stress on it.

I reccommended a book by Alan Carr - here it is on PDF.
http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5 ... 34a829.pdf (http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf)

It isn't attitude. But it is all mental games for the next couple months. Remember this is Chess not checkers. Your inner addict is going to try to outsmart you at every turn. Thats the value of posting up your thoughts here. This place works like a mirror that will reflect back the truth. You can fool yourself, and probably some of us, but never all of us. Mostly because we all stood where you stand now. We know.

Don't hide the fact your struggling, your here for support.

Your original post raised alarm because you were creating reasons to start again. Thats known as use justification.

You and I both know that you actually DONT want to dip again. What you want is to feel normal.  You needed nicotine to feel that way and so did I. The truth is that we were normal before we ever started using. Then eventually we had to use just to maintain normal.

Once you've kept quit for awhile you will return to feeling good without nicotine. Your no longer physically dependant on a drug to make you feel ok.

Be patient my friend, 13 days of quit is awesome, but it can't undo all the damage. Give it time. Until then try to push past all this and start enjoying life without nic.

Also Maybe this will help
Quote
THE VOID

Silly rabbits, nicotine wasn't filling the void it was creating it.

What exactly is it that your foggy mind imagines you lost? The only thing that chew is good for is to keep you addicted to chew.

You think you miss it? Is it the morning ritual of scraping the dead skin off your lip? Did it make you a better husband, father, son. Perhaps you miss being tethered to a dripping sewer of a spitter. I know!!! It made you smarter and the lump in your lip was a real hit with the ladies . You didn't lose anything , instead you have gained everything, perhaps your very life.

Nothing to miss thats all illusion created by the addiction

"Bullshit" you say "I remember that it was good and I liked it"
You miss that good dip? the perfect wedge that you think you remember. I bet you have a romantic memory , mine is of dipping in the bleachers at the highschool game on Friday night. (Secret for you) That's not the dip you get when you cave. Ohhhh nooooo buttercup, you get a dip that was just like your LAST ONE. Remember that lame chew? The one you had to have just to feed your habit, you had to think about where to put it because everywhere else hurt. Except this dip will be full of guilt and shame and failure. How could you start again when you have read the Tom Kern story? or looked at ODT's cancer surgery, or spent any time here at all?

Don't romanticize your addiction, if it was so great why did you want to stop in the first place.

It isnt the one good chew you get when you fail , its the 10,000 shitty chews that will come with it. How long will it take you to get back to 30 days of freedom? How long did it take you this time? for me it was years in between quits. You can't risk that, how many chances until you look your son or daughter in the eyes and tell them you killed yourself? and you did it on purpose. The next dip could be the one
that kills you. It isn't likely but the possibility is there. Jenny Kern said the odds of getting cancer from chew don't matter if your the one that gets it. Just sayin

Still on the fence eh, " it was always there for me" and " it would calm me down" you mumble. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor it raises your blood pressure. It is also a stimulant. Sounds calming alright . More illusions of your nicotine soaked cerabellum. When you are angry you produce chemicals like adrenaline and cortisol. These literally take the nic out of your blood stream. So you go into withdrawl. So....we...would have a dip, and feel better. The calm you felt... was only the relief from withdrawl.

But we all believed it was THE DIP that calmed us, it was in reality the DIP that caused alot of the stress. Nicotine creating a void (can you see it yet)

The feel better high you seek, the replacement for your so called void? I think PBkids shrink friend was close but not quite there. If you can admit the void is caused by nicotine and your addiction, then the opposite must be true as well. Recovery from the addiction will fill the void. You can see this prove out in your own group and those ahead of you. Posts such as it was great to hang out with my kid and not worry about a place to spit or a spitter. Posts on how nice it feels to not HAVE to lie and hide. How proud you feel, how proud your loved ones are. Those feelings of relief, calm , become more and more as your quit progresses. THAT my addict brethren will fill the void, THAT is the good and the positive stuff that your already working for. (another secret) it's worth it and it feels so much better than you do now.

your body has to heal, your mind needs to heal. Dip literally changes the way your brain works, and it changes how your body produces and uses all of its feel good chemicals. It effects serotonin and adrenaline. The fog in my opinion is created by a lack of chemical production when your brain is trying to figure out what the hell to do with out a steady stream of posion ( you knew that nicotine is a potent neurotoxin right). Anti depressants act on the same chemicals that nic did. Coincidence that Wellbutrin does the same thing? You may feel depressed, the funk, the fog, the blahs and the fuck its. It hits with a repeatable timing in all the groups. Common sense tells you that a pattern that occurs across every group could be reality.This is your brain healing. Literally nicotine receptors are dying and new neuro pathways are forming. This is the price you must pay to earn your freedom. Embrace it. Rkymtnman gave you the best piece of advice yet. Excercise, Yes you frito lay lovin pork rind munching fattys need to get off your collective asses and excercise. Walking counts if you put some distance there. Excercise works on your body just like the rest of the stuff above. Excercise releases endorphins that will help you feel better. It is scientifically proven that you will have less craves and less severe craves AND a larger number of you droolers will stay quit. Thor's Pajammer is correct with meditation, check out what meditation does to brain chemistry as well. Its all the same , help yourself and take a walk.

As Forest Gump says thats all I have to say about that. Sorry for the long post, I hope it helps. It is really just a collection of things I've picked up from those who helped me. Some is from posts you'll find if you dig hard enough. One day at a time buttercups. If I can do it so can you. Now seriously put the pickle down and buy a ab roller.

Quitting can really be the easiest hard thing you'll ever do. Or it can be the hardest easy thing. Depends on how you flip the switch in your mind.

sM 
Good to see you in chat Ryan... Made me wanna go back and look at your intro. I hope you don't mind that I bounce this little gem up top. Stay strong brothers!
It was good to chat with you as well, congrats on making it to the 3rd floor. And no I don't mind at all about the bump. In fact I am glad you did.

That PDF book that SM shared was a turning point in my quit. Allen Carr wrote some simple yet brilliant things in that book. The greatest message for me was that nicotine NEVER DID ANYTHING FOR ME, except remove the withdrawal that it in fact was responsible for creating. That is the big lie. The we need nicotine. Once I grasped that concept it became pretty hard to even think about using again. I may be an addict but I am not stupid or irrational.

Quit on.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 25, 2013, 04:32:00 AM
Here is a post I wrote that I never submitted.

Day 66 the burden of quit is light because I have come to the realization that tobacco does nothing for me. Nothing positive anyway. The inconvenience of posting roll and denying craves is a small price to pay for freedom. The other necessary step is to carry some numbers with me in case I get in trouble. The industry propagates a deadly and deceptive lie. I am embarrassed that I fell victim to it for a ¼ century. One of my goals in life now is keep my children away from tobacco and other harmful substances.

The burden of using is far greater than that of being quit. I had to always make sure that I had enough with me. Midnight runs to gas station or store. Lunch hours alone in my truck rather than spending time with my coworkers. Always trying to hide the filth from my sons and other people at family functions. Missing time with my wife so I could stay up late an “enjoy” one last dip for the day. And perhaps the greatest burden of using was living with the personal guilt of constantly lying to myself, thinking ”I am not addicted, I can quit anytime I want, I will quit on Monday”. Such bullshit, such failure. Have a great day.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on April 25, 2013, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Here is a post I wrote that I never submitted.

Day 66 the burden of quit is light because I have come to the realization that tobacco does nothing for me. Nothing positive anyway. The inconvenience of posting roll and denying craves is a small price to pay for freedom. The other necessary step is to carry some numbers with me in case I get in trouble. The industry propagates a deadly and deceptive lie. I am embarrassed that I fell victim to it for a ¼ century. One of my goals in life now is keep my children away from tobacco and other harmful substances.

The burden of using is far greater than that of being quit. I had to always make sure that I had enough with me. Midnight runs to gas station or store. Lunch hours alone in my truck rather than spending time with my coworkers. Always trying to hide the filth from my sons and other people at family functions. Missing time with my wife so I could stay up late an “enjoy” one last dip for the day. And perhaps the greatest burden of using was living with the personal guilt of constantly lying to myself, thinking ”I am not addicted, I can quit anytime I want, I will quit on Monday”. Such bullshit, such failure. Have a great day.
Good read Got2happen. Thanks for your post on my intro. Every little bit helps. It's amazing how just a few words from someone or several someones make the day a little brighter. Glad to be quit with you...
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 02, 2013, 03:46:00 PM
Yesterday and today I caught myself thinking some crazy thoughts and questioning some basics,

"what was so bad about dipping again?",

"there are worse drugs to be addicted to"

"I could always do it and not tell anyone"

"shit I could always quit again when I want to, I got this far"

WFT, I can't believe this addiction lurks, after 121 days. Toxic fucking poison screwing with my mind.

Not today you sneaky bitch. Today I made a promise.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on May 02, 2013, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Yesterday and today I caught myself thinking some crazy thoughts and questioning some basics,

"what was so bad about dipping again?",

"there are worse drugs to be addicted to"

"I could always do it and not tell anyone"

"shit I could always quit again when I want to, I got this far"

WFT, I can't believe this addiction lurks, after 121 days. Toxic fucking poison screwing with my mind.

Not today you sneaky bitch. Today I made a promise.
This is why you have phone numbers. This is why you text your brothers. Of course this is why we post roll, everyday!

You have my number, don't be afraid to use it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on May 02, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Yesterday and today I caught myself thinking some crazy thoughts and questioning some basics,

"what was so bad about dipping again?", 

"there are worse drugs to be addicted to"

"I could always do it and not tell anyone"

"shit I could always quit again when I want to, I got this far"

WFT, I can't believe this addiction lurks, after 121 days.  Toxic fucking poison screwing with my mind.

Not today you sneaky bitch. Today I made a promise.
This is why you have phone numbers. This is why you text your brothers. Of course this is why we post roll, everyday!

You have my number, don't be afraid to use it.
You are funking.

One of the worst funks (in my opinion) is right after the hall because the nic bitch is desperate. She saw day 101 as the day "things get back to normal". She sees this quitting stuff as a temporary thing, and she's pissed the more it becomes permanent.

Remember your tools you've learned. There's a reason you practiced them in times of good. It's for these times you are in. Lean on them.

You've got my number. You've got many more. Use them.

Reach out to one of these foggy fucks and show em how you got there. Make some new friends.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on May 02, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Yesterday and today I caught myself thinking some crazy thoughts and questioning some basics,

"what was so bad about dipping again?", 

"there are worse drugs to be addicted to"

"I could always do it and not tell anyone"

"shit I could always quit again when I want to, I got this far"

WFT, I can't believe this addiction lurks, after 121 days.  Toxic fucking poison screwing with my mind.

Not today you sneaky bitch. Today I made a promise.
This is why you have phone numbers. This is why you text your brothers. Of course this is why we post roll, everyday!

You have my number, don't be afraid to use it.
I'm on 76 got2. I was hoping at 121 my battle would be over. It sounds like 121 and 76 are a lot alike. Well shit! I'll tell you what,,, you stay quit and stay quit no matter what effin number. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 03, 2013, 05:21:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Yesterday and today I caught myself thinking some crazy thoughts and questioning some basics,

"what was so bad about dipping again?", 

"there are worse drugs to be addicted to"

"I could always do it and not tell anyone"

"shit I could always quit again when I want to, I got this far"

WFT, I can't believe this addiction lurks, after 121 days.  Toxic fucking poison screwing with my mind.

Not today you sneaky bitch. Today I made a promise.
This is why you have phone numbers. This is why you text your brothers. Of course this is why we post roll, everyday!

You have my number, don't be afraid to use it.
I'm on 76 got2. I was hoping at 121 my battle would be over. It sounds like 121 and 76 are a lot alike. Well shit! I'll tell you what,,, you stay quit and stay quit no matter what effin number. Glad to be quit with you.
I hear ya srans. I thought I would be done too. I suppose that is the ticket. There is no "done". It is a daily battle. Loot says, never forget day 1. I wanted so badly to be quit. Took me 25+ years to get there. I am not throwing that away for nothing. Thanks for the encouragement gentlemen.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on May 03, 2013, 12:11:00 PM
Just remember how bad you wanted to quit. That memory is a truthful one. Hold on to it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wade on May 03, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Yesterday and today I caught myself thinking some crazy thoughts and questioning some basics,

"what was so bad about dipping again?", 

"there are worse drugs to be addicted to"

"I could always do it and not tell anyone"

"shit I could always quit again when I want to, I got this far"

WFT, I can't believe this addiction lurks, after 121 days.  Toxic fucking poison screwing with my mind.

Not today you sneaky bitch. Today I made a promise.
That's exactly the type of thinking that has brought me back to Day 1 time and time again. That's also exactly why I'm here...so that I never have another Day 1. Stay strong. We are stronger together. I quit with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: RAZD611 on May 03, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
Hang in there. It will pass and the light at the end of the tunnel will begin to shine brighter.

You got this!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Kubrick on May 04, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Ah the old 120ish day funk. Just wake up, post roll, and keep doing the same things you've been doing for the past 121 days. It will pass and there will be more of them.

You're free man. Do you really want to go back to being a slave to the can?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 04, 2013, 12:50:00 PM
Quote from: Kubrick
Ah the old 120ish day funk. Just wake up, post roll, and keep doing the same things you've been doing for the past 121 days. It will pass and there will be more of them.

You're free man. Do you really want to go back to being a slave to the can?
Nope not a slave anymore, you're right. Just wish it didnt take so long to heal this screwed up brain.

By the way Kubrick, where did you find that avatar? 30 min with her and I would forget all about craves.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on May 07, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Kubrick
Ah the old 120ish day funk. Just wake up, post roll, and keep doing the same things you've been doing for the past 121 days. It will pass and there will be more of them.

You're free man. Do you really want to go back to being a slave to the can?
Nope not a slave anymore, you're right. Just wish it didnt take so long to heal this screwed up brain.

By the way Kubrick, where did you find that avatar? 30 min with her and I would forget all about craves.
I gotta jump in here because kubrick helped me big time.. ty bro!
got2happen --- it will pass.. when you have that feeling something isn't right? it will pass.. I haven't been doing that good in this area, but exercise really saved my ass around that time.. It will help release that funkiness.. FYI (120's) that's around the time I sent out an emergency text from the side of the road.. EVERYBODY replied with support. It's the only time I had to do that, but my point is remember you always have some digits for back up...use them if you ever get there, and remember the storm will always pass... peace
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 08, 2013, 05:07:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Kubrick
Ah the old 120ish day funk. Just wake up, post roll, and keep doing the same things you've been doing for the past 121 days. It will pass and there will be more of them.

You're free man. Do you really want to go back to being a slave to the can?
Nope not a slave anymore, you're right. Just wish it didnt take so long to heal this screwed up brain.

By the way Kubrick, where did you find that avatar? 30 min with her and I would forget all about craves.
I gotta jump in here because kubrick helped me big time.. ty bro!
got2happen --- it will pass.. when you have that feeling something isn't right? it will pass.. I haven't been doing that good in this area, but exercise really saved my ass around that time.. It will help release that funkiness.. FYI (120's) that's around the time I sent out an emergency text from the side of the road.. EVERYBODY replied with support. It's the only time I had to do that, but my point is remember you always have some digits for back up...use them if you ever get there, and remember the storm will always pass... peace
Good point Kana. You are right. I know this, I know this, I know this. I promise myself that if I am ever close to a cave I will do the following:

1. text and or call my quit brothers

2. read my entire intro thread

3. sign the contract to cave

That ought to do it. Never forget day 1 is what Loot says. Sounds about right to me.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 23, 2013, 09:25:00 AM
Actually gave serious thought to not posting roll today. Just in case?? I am off work for a long weekend and started thinking about the "good old days" of drinking and dipping and doing yardwork etc. What a dumbass!! This bitch don't give up easy, does she? WTF, one hundred and forty something days and I still have these thoughts. Is this normal?? What the hell is wrong with me??

Can't ever go back. Gotta go post, later.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jaynellie on May 23, 2013, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Actually gave serious thought to not posting roll today. Just in case?? I am off work for a long weekend and started thinking about the "good old days" of drinking and dipping and doing yardwork etc. What a dumbass!! This bitch don't give up easy, does she? WTF, one hundred and forty something days and I still have these thoughts. Is this normal?? What the hell is wrong with me??

Can't ever go back. Gotta go post, later.
IG2H the "good ole days" of being a slave to a fuckin weed? ODAAT is the way we do it here you know that. Don't get caught up in the past and start giving Nic any credit for the "good times". Post roll everyday and make the promise to me, billy bob, johnny, and most importantly to yourself. Proud to be quit with you today. NAFAR!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Radman on May 23, 2013, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Actually gave serious thought to not posting roll today.  Just in case??  I am off work for a long weekend and started thinking about the "good old days" of drinking and dipping and doing yardwork etc.  What a dumbass!!  This bitch don't give up easy, does she?  WTF, one hundred and forty something days and I still have these thoughts.  Is this normal??  What the hell is wrong with me??

Can't ever go back. Gotta go post, later.
IG2H the "good ole days" of being a slave to a fuckin weed? ODAAT is the way we do it here you know that. Don't get caught up in the past and start giving Nic any credit for the "good times". Post roll everyday and make the promise to me, billy bob, johnny, and most importantly to yourself. Proud to be quit with you today. NAFAR!!
^^^^ x2.

Keep fighting, guys. Keep fighting.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Morgan1 on May 23, 2013, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Actually gave serious thought to not posting roll today.  Just in case??  I am off work for a long weekend and started thinking about the "good old days" of drinking and dipping and doing yardwork etc.  What a dumbass!!  This bitch don't give up easy, does she?  WTF, one hundred and forty something days and I still have these thoughts.  Is this normal??  What the hell is wrong with me??

Can't ever go back. Gotta go post, later.
IG2H the "good ole days" of being a slave to a fuckin weed? ODAAT is the way we do it here you know that. Don't get caught up in the past and start giving Nic any credit for the "good times". Post roll everyday and make the promise to me, billy bob, johnny, and most importantly to yourself. Proud to be quit with you today. NAFAR!!
Hey Ryan that's one of Nikki's oldest tricks - making you remember dipping fondly. Making you believe it enhanced those weekends. It's all a lie bro. Dipping did not enhance those fishing trips or golf games or yardwork, it made all of those events worse. Think about this : Is it more enjoyable to do yardwork and have a couple of beers OR is it more enjoyable to do yardwork, have a couple of beers, and actively poison your body with something that could actually result in your death? The answer is simple my friend. Tobacco is nothing but a pack of lies man every bit of it. You were tricked into paying your own hard earned money to poison yourself. Don't let that bitch come whispering in your ear...kick her to the curb. By FAR the worst craving I ever had was around day 143 or 144 so its normal - it happens. Go into my intro and find my post from that day and you will see what I mean. It damn near brought me to tears I was so upset. She is persistent but easy to defeat when your mind is in the right place. Never glorify or romanticize tobacco - thats part of the lie - probably the biggest part. Not considering posting roll? That's Nikki getting way to close to you bro. Keep your guard up at all times. AGGRESSIVELY quit. Own your quit like I know you do - like you have so far. We all hit speed bumps man - let it reinvigorate you and empower your quit. You're a bad man. A lot badder than a little can of lying poison. Reach out if you need anything you've got my number. Quit on.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kkljinc on May 23, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
I quit with you today...
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jake frawley on May 23, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: Radman
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Actually gave serious thought to not posting roll today.  Just in case??  I am off work for a long weekend and started thinking about the "good old days" of drinking and dipping and doing yardwork etc.  What a dumbass!!  This bitch don't give up easy, does she?  WTF, one hundred and forty something days and I still have these thoughts.  Is this normal??  What the hell is wrong with me??

Can't ever go back. Gotta go post, later.
IG2H the "good ole days" of being a slave to a fuckin weed? ODAAT is the way we do it here you know that. Don't get caught up in the past and start giving Nic any credit for the "good times". Post roll everyday and make the promise to me, billy bob, johnny, and most importantly to yourself. Proud to be quit with you today. NAFAR!!
^^^^ x2.

Keep fighting, guys. Keep fighting.
Bro, after that long.... the chew doesn't even smell or taste the same as you remember. It taste sour after a long time quit. Glad ur posting roll, I know from experience that a cave turns into a time of regret and self hate. You are an example to us new guys. We quit with you today!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: dgreak on May 23, 2013, 10:36:00 AM
Man I have been pretty quiet on here since I am new, but I wanted to say you got this and I have your back. You've come this far, just keep doing what you're doing and lean on the guys here. I am sure you have tons of support, but if you need mine shoot me a PM and I will be glad to help out.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 23, 2013, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: KKLJINC
I quit with you today...
Thanks man. I would like to quit with your avatar. Damn boy, who dat??
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kkljinc on May 23, 2013, 12:29:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: KKLJINC
I quit with you today...
Thanks man. I would like to quit with your avatar. Damn boy, who dat??
She is just "QUIT LIKE SHIT" inspiration!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: per034 on May 23, 2013, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Radman
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Actually gave serious thought to not posting roll today.  Just in case??  I am off work for a long weekend and started thinking about the "good old days" of drinking and dipping and doing yardwork etc.  What a dumbass!!  This bitch don't give up easy, does she?  WTF, one hundred and forty something days and I still have these thoughts.  Is this normal??  What the hell is wrong with me??

Can't ever go back. Gotta go post, later.
IG2H the "good ole days" of being a slave to a fuckin weed? ODAAT is the way we do it here you know that. Don't get caught up in the past and start giving Nic any credit for the "good times". Post roll everyday and make the promise to me, billy bob, johnny, and most importantly to yourself. Proud to be quit with you today. NAFAR!!
^^^^ x2.

Keep fighting, guys. Keep fighting.
Bro, after that long.... the chew doesn't even smell or taste the same as you remember. It taste sour after a long time quit. Glad ur posting roll, I know from experience that a cave turns into a time of regret and self hate. You are an example to us new guys. We quit with you today!
She won't give up. Ever. But that's ok because we're stronger than her now. Because of this place, we have more power than she does. When we quit her, she looked a lot like KKLJINC's avatar. Not she looks like a crack-whore looking for a fix. Glad you fought off the premeditated cave. Watch out for her this weekend. She'll be looking for you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mich 34 on May 23, 2013, 03:07:00 PM
Quote from: per034
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Radman
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Actually gave serious thought to not posting roll today.  Just in case??  I am off work for a long weekend and started thinking about the "good old days" of drinking and dipping and doing yardwork etc.  What a dumbass!!  This bitch don't give up easy, does she?  WTF, one hundred and forty something days and I still have these thoughts.  Is this normal??  What the hell is wrong with me??

Can't ever go back. Gotta go post, later.
IG2H the "good ole days" of being a slave to a fuckin weed? ODAAT is the way we do it here you know that. Don't get caught up in the past and start giving Nic any credit for the "good times". Post roll everyday and make the promise to me, billy bob, johnny, and most importantly to yourself. Proud to be quit with you today. NAFAR!!
^^^^ x2.

Keep fighting, guys. Keep fighting.
Bro, after that long.... the chew doesn't even smell or taste the same as you remember. It taste sour after a long time quit. Glad ur posting roll, I know from experience that a cave turns into a time of regret and self hate. You are an example to us new guys. We quit with you today!
She won't give up. Ever. But that's ok because we're stronger than her now. Because of this place, we have more power than she does. When we quit her, she looked a lot like KKLJINC's avatar. Not she looks like a crack-whore looking for a fix. Glad you fought off the premeditated cave. Watch out for her this weekend. She'll be looking for you.
you've got my cell, throw a text my way before you decide not to post roll - I'll talk anytime man. Glad you had it licked on your own today. Remember your tools and use them or they will rust.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 26, 2013, 07:12:00 AM
Memorial weekend is typically a time that I pull a couple days off work and string together 4 or 5, 15 hour days in a row in which I kick ass around my house and yard. My unwritten rule is that all projects that need to be completed for the year must be completed by Memorial Day.

Paint, caulk, plant some trees, move 2000 pounds of boulders, move 3 yrds of mulch, fix the fence, plant the garden, open the pool, clean the garage, prune hedges, fix the roof on shed, etc. Well that is the list so far and I have 2 days to go.

That said I realize today that weekends like this were also weekends in which I would plow through a ridiculous amount of dip. 3+ cans a day. It was a messed up reward game mentality that I designed in my head. " finish this small task, pack a big dip, you know the drill. And I remember vividly how times I planned to quit on the Tuesday after Memorial day. I would justify the chew filled weekend because it was always going to be the last one. Sad.

I can tell you that this weekend has not been easy. I realize just how dependent I was on nicotine. Not just the physical chemical dependence part. I mean my entire emotional and psychological state of being. I had no idea that this healing would take so much time.

I am very happy to be quit. I still have to remind myself daily of all the reasons that I want to be. It would be great if I could just be done, and not have to put any work into it. But passive quitting hasn't worked for me. It leaves to much to chance and leaves me open to failure should I all of a sudden decide that I want or need dip. I understand now that my quit must be an active one. I must force myself to think about it daily so that I can remember how hard it was to get free of this.

I think at this point in time, 145 days quit, I am just looking to replace the stimulant factor. Sunflower seeds don't quite do it.

Ok, I think I am just procrastinating at this point, I have to go dig some post holes and stain a fence. Happy Memorial Day everyone. Stay quit.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: HDsnake on May 26, 2013, 07:32:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Memorial weekend is typically a time that I pull a couple days off work and string together 4 or 5,  15 hour days in a row in which I kick ass around my house and yard.  My unwritten rule is that all projects that need to be completed for the year must be completed by Memorial Day. 

Paint, caulk, plant some trees, move 2000 pounds of boulders, move 3 yrds of mulch, fix the fence, plant the garden, open the pool, clean the garage, prune hedges, fix the roof on shed, etc.  Well that is the list so far and I have 2 days to go.

That said I realize today that weekends like this were also weekends in which I would plow through a ridiculous amount of dip.  3+ cans a day.  It was a messed up reward game mentality that I designed in my head.  " finish this small task, pack a big dip, you know the drill.  And I remember vividly how times I planned to quit on the Tuesday after Memorial day.  I would justify the chew filled weekend because it was always going to be the last one.  Sad.

I can tell you that this weekend has not been easy.  I realize just how dependent I was on nicotine.  Not just the physical chemical dependence part.  I mean my entire emotional and psychological state of being.  I had no idea that this healing would take so much time. 

I am very happy to be quit.  I still have to remind myself daily of all the reasons that I want to be.  It would be great if I could just be done, and not have to put any work into it.  But passive quitting hasn't worked for me.  It leaves to much to chance and leaves me open to failure should I all of a sudden decide that I want or need dip.  I understand now that my quit must be an active one.  I must force myself to think about it daily so that I can remember how hard it was to get free of this. 

I think at this point in time, 145 days quit, I am just looking to replace the stimulant factor.  Sunflower seeds don't quite do it. 

Ok, I think I am just procrastinating at this point, I have to go dig some post holes and stain a fence.  Happy Memorial Day everyone.  Stay quit.

Ryan
Yes sir, I know the feeling for sure. I have now seen the light that all my life is a trigger. Shower=dip, yard work=dip, feed fish=dip, ect ect ect...

No way to avoid triggers for me so I just blow right on by the start of things and keep on keeping on.


Quit 14 days !

Have a great weekend brother. :D
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on May 26, 2013, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: HDsnake
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Memorial weekend is typically a time that I pull a couple days off work and string together 4 or 5,  15 hour days in a row in which I kick ass around my house and yard.  My unwritten rule is that all projects that need to be completed for the year must be completed by Memorial Day. 

Paint, caulk, plant some trees, move 2000 pounds of boulders, move 3 yrds of mulch, fix the fence, plant the garden, open the pool, clean the garage, prune hedges, fix the roof on shed, etc.  Well that is the list so far and I have 2 days to go.

That said I realize today that weekends like this were also weekends in which I would plow through a ridiculous amount of dip.  3+ cans a day.  It was a messed up reward game mentality that I designed in my head.  " finish this small task, pack a big dip, you know the drill.  And I remember vividly how times I planned to quit on the Tuesday after Memorial day.  I would justify the chew filled weekend because it was always going to be the last one.  Sad.

I can tell you that this weekend has not been easy.  I realize just how dependent I was on nicotine.  Not just the physical chemical dependence part.  I mean my entire emotional and psychological state of being.  I had no idea that this healing would take so much time. 

I am very happy to be quit.  I still have to remind myself daily of all the reasons that I want to be.  It would be great if I could just be done, and not have to put any work into it.  But passive quitting hasn't worked for me.  It leaves to much to chance and leaves me open to failure should I all of a sudden decide that I want or need dip.  I understand now that my quit must be an active one.  I must force myself to think about it daily so that I can remember how hard it was to get free of this. 

I think at this point in time, 145 days quit, I am just looking to replace the stimulant factor.  Sunflower seeds don't quite do it. 

Ok, I think I am just procrastinating at this point, I have to go dig some post holes and stain a fence.  Happy Memorial Day everyone.  Stay quit.

Ryan
Yes sir, I know the feeling for sure. I have now seen the light that all my life is a trigger. Shower=dip, yard work=dip, feed fish=dip, ect ect ect...

No way to avoid triggers for me so I just blow right on by the start of things and keep on keeping on.


Quit 14 days !

Have a great weekend brother. :D
Good stuff got2. I always enjoy reading your posts. You always seem to hit me right in the jaw when I'm reading them.

It wasn't long ago, my wife says "are you still having troubles". All I can do is shake my head and move on. That's one of the reasons this site is so important,, nobody understands us like us. I love the fact we can come here, put our thoughts out there and somebody actually gets it. Anyone I talk to that has never had this addiction has no clue. They are dumbfounded. Glad to be quit with you got2.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 26, 2013, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: HDsnake
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Memorial weekend is typically a time that I pull a couple days off work and string together 4 or 5,  15 hour days in a row in which I kick ass around my house and yard.  My unwritten rule is that all projects that need to be completed for the year must be completed by Memorial Day. 

Paint, caulk, plant some trees, move 2000 pounds of boulders, move 3 yrds of mulch, fix the fence, plant the garden, open the pool, clean the garage, prune hedges, fix the roof on shed, etc.  Well that is the list so far and I have 2 days to go.

That said I realize today that weekends like this were also weekends in which I would plow through a ridiculous amount of dip.  3+ cans a day.  It was a messed up reward game mentality that I designed in my head.  " finish this small task, pack a big dip, you know the drill.  And I remember vividly how times I planned to quit on the Tuesday after Memorial day.  I would justify the chew filled weekend because it was always going to be the last one.  Sad.

I can tell you that this weekend has not been easy.  I realize just how dependent I was on nicotine.  Not just the physical chemical dependence part.  I mean my entire emotional and psychological state of being.  I had no idea that this healing would take so much time. 

I am very happy to be quit.  I still have to remind myself daily of all the reasons that I want to be.  It would be great if I could just be done, and not have to put any work into it.  But passive quitting hasn't worked for me.  It leaves to much to chance and leaves me open to failure should I all of a sudden decide that I want or need dip.  I understand now that my quit must be an active one.  I must force myself to think about it daily so that I can remember how hard it was to get free of this. 

I think at this point in time, 145 days quit, I am just looking to replace the stimulant factor.  Sunflower seeds don't quite do it. 

Ok, I think I am just procrastinating at this point, I have to go dig some post holes and stain a fence.  Happy Memorial Day everyone.  Stay quit.

Ryan
Yes sir, I know the feeling for sure. I have now seen the light that all my life is a trigger. Shower=dip, yard work=dip, feed fish=dip, ect ect ect...

No way to avoid triggers for me so I just blow right on by the start of things and keep on keeping on.


Quit 14 days !

Have a great weekend brother. :D
Good stuff got2. I always enjoy reading your posts. You always seem to hit me right in the jaw when I'm reading them.

It wasn't long ago, my wife says "are you still having troubles". All I can do is shake my head and move on. That's one of the reasons this site is so important,, nobody understands us like us. I love the fact we can come here, put our thoughts out there and somebody actually gets it. Anyone I talk to that has never had this addiction has no clue. They are dumbfounded. Glad to be quit with you got2.
Thanks Srans, that is what made me fall in love with this site. For the first time in my dipping career I found someone who knew exactly how I felt. And all the things I was experiencing trying to quit were described by others all over the country. I was blown away at how similar peoples quits can be. That is the power of this site. When I realized it could be done and people were on here doing it everyday, I had no choice but to quit. This place gave me the knowledge and the tools. Have a great weekend and stay quit.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on May 27, 2013, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: srans
Quote from: HDsnake
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Memorial weekend is typically a time that I pull a couple days off work and string together 4 or 5,  15 hour days in a row in which I kick ass around my house and yard.  My unwritten rule is that all projects that need to be completed for the year must be completed by Memorial Day. 

Paint, caulk, plant some trees, move 2000 pounds of boulders, move 3 yrds of mulch, fix the fence, plant the garden, open the pool, clean the garage, prune hedges, fix the roof on shed, etc.  Well that is the list so far and I have 2 days to go.

That said I realize today that weekends like this were also weekends in which I would plow through a ridiculous amount of dip.  3+ cans a day.  It was a messed up reward game mentality that I designed in my head.  " finish this small task, pack a big dip, you know the drill.  And I remember vividly how times I planned to quit on the Tuesday after Memorial day.  I would justify the chew filled weekend because it was always going to be the last one.  Sad.

I can tell you that this weekend has not been easy.  I realize just how dependent I was on nicotine.  Not just the physical chemical dependence part.  I mean my entire emotional and psychological state of being.  I had no idea that this healing would take so much time. 

I am very happy to be quit.  I still have to remind myself daily of all the reasons that I want to be.  It would be great if I could just be done, and not have to put any work into it.  But passive quitting hasn't worked for me.  It leaves to much to chance and leaves me open to failure should I all of a sudden decide that I want or need dip.  I understand now that my quit must be an active one.  I must force myself to think about it daily so that I can remember how hard it was to get free of this. 

I think at this point in time, 145 days quit, I am just looking to replace the stimulant factor.  Sunflower seeds don't quite do it. 

Ok, I think I am just procrastinating at this point, I have to go dig some post holes and stain a fence.  Happy Memorial Day everyone.  Stay quit.

Ryan
Yes sir, I know the feeling for sure. I have now seen the light that all my life is a trigger. Shower=dip, yard work=dip, feed fish=dip, ect ect ect...

No way to avoid triggers for me so I just blow right on by the start of things and keep on keeping on.


Quit 14 days !

Have a great weekend brother. :D
Good stuff got2. I always enjoy reading your posts. You always seem to hit me right in the jaw when I'm reading them.

It wasn't long ago, my wife says "are you still having troubles". All I can do is shake my head and move on. That's one of the reasons this site is so important,, nobody understands us like us. I love the fact we can come here, put our thoughts out there and somebody actually gets it. Anyone I talk to that has never had this addiction has no clue. They are dumbfounded. Glad to be quit with you got2.
Thanks Srans, that is what made me fall in love with this site. For the first time in my dipping career I found someone who knew exactly how I felt. And all the things I was experiencing trying to quit were described by others all over the country. I was blown away at how similar peoples quits can be. That is the power of this site. When I realized it could be done and people were on here doing it everyday, I had no choice but to quit. This place gave me the knowledge and the tools. Have a great weekend and stay quit.

Ryan
last week I had a huge project list as well.. went through the whole day just scratchin things off the list. at the end of the day, In the hot shower I was just relaxing and thought WOW I didn't think about dip at all, the whole day? Then I thought holy shit, I even forgot to grab some gum.. I went the whole day with NOTHING in my mouth, and believe it or not everything got done. just keep quitting, it get's better..
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 01, 2013, 07:41:00 AM
152 days quit. I could not be happier. For anyone just starting out.... please know this, IT GETS BETTER, IT IS WORTH IT. People told me that 5 months ago and I was convinced they were lying.

I cannot begin to describe how it feels to no longer be feeding this addiction. I didnt know at that time but entire existance was wrapped in "the fix". How and when can I get it. Nothing could stand in the way. I see now that when I was using I was behaving as if "it" were the most important thing in the world. Addiciton is sad and pathetic. In the begining of my quit I saw people dipping and smoking I was envious. Now I am anything but that. Actually I am deeply saddened when I see it now. I feel sorry for those who are still enchained. I wonder about their future. Will they ever choose to be free of it, or will they bring that addiction to their grave.

I am grateful for this site and grateful for the connections I have made. Time to start paying it forward. My goal is to connect solidly to at least 2 newbies/month.

Stay quit friends.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on June 01, 2013, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
152 days quit. I could not be happier. For anyone just starting out.... please know this, IT GETS BETTER, IT IS WORTH IT. People told me that 5 months ago and I was convinced they were lying.

I cannot begin to describe how it feels to no longer be feeding this addiction. I didnt know at that time but entire existance was wrapped in "the fix". How and when can I get it. Nothing could stand in the way. I see now that when I was using I was behaving as if "it" were the most important thing in the world. Addiciton is sad and pathetic. In the begining of my quit I saw people dipping and smoking I was envious. Now I am anything but that. Actually I am deeply saddened when I see it now. I feel sorry for those who are still enchained. I wonder about their future. Will they ever choose to be free of it, or will they bring that addiction to their grave.

I am grateful for this site and grateful for the connections I have made. Time to start paying it forward. My goal is to connect solidly to at least 2 newbies/month.

Stay quit friends.
what a great way to start the day, some swollen quit juice... nice work boo! :D
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on June 01, 2013, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
152 days quit.  I could not be happier.  For anyone just starting out.... please know this, IT GETS BETTER, IT IS WORTH IT.  People told me that 5 months ago and I was convinced they were lying.

I cannot begin to describe how it feels to no longer be feeding this addiction.  I didnt know at that time but entire existance was wrapped in "the fix".  How and when can I get it.  Nothing could stand in the way.  I see now that when I was using I was behaving as if "it" were the most important thing in the world.  Addiciton is sad and pathetic.  In the begining of my quit I saw people dipping and smoking I was envious.  Now I am anything but that.  Actually I am deeply saddened when I see it now.  I feel sorry for those who are still enchained.  I wonder about their future.  Will they ever choose to be free of it, or will they bring that addiction to their grave. 

I am grateful for this site and grateful for the connections I have made.  Time to start paying it forward.  My goal is to connect solidly to at least 2 newbies/month.

Stay quit friends.
what a great way to start the day, some swollen quit juice... nice work boo! :D
Quit Gold!!!! Proud to be quit with you today!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on June 01, 2013, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
152 days quit.  I could not be happier.  For anyone just starting out.... please know this, IT GETS BETTER, IT IS WORTH IT.  People told me that 5 months ago and I was convinced they were lying.

I cannot begin to describe how it feels to no longer be feeding this addiction.  I didnt know at that time but entire existance was wrapped in "the fix".  How and when can I get it.  Nothing could stand in the way.  I see now that when I was using I was behaving as if "it" were the most important thing in the world.  Addiciton is sad and pathetic.  In the begining of my quit I saw people dipping and smoking I was envious.  Now I am anything but that.  Actually I am deeply saddened when I see it now.  I feel sorry for those who are still enchained.  I wonder about their future.  Will they ever choose to be free of it, or will they bring that addiction to their grave. 

I am grateful for this site and grateful for the connections I have made.  Time to start paying it forward.  My goal is to connect solidly to at least 2 newbies/month.

Stay quit friends.
what a great way to start the day, some swollen quit juice... nice work boo! :D
Quit Gold!!!! Proud to be quit with you today!
It wasn't long ago you were going through a little funk got2. I think around day 120ish somewhere. Just more validation that funks come and go. While I was poisoning myself everyday bad days came and went the same. Now that I'm not poisoning myself anymore bad days still come and go. We posted our promise, we got nothing better to do. I say we stay quit for the rest of the day. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 07, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere. I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using. The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day. For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?". "I have been so good, I deserve it".

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tazbutane on June 07, 2013, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere. I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using. The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day. For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?". "I have been so good, I deserve it".

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
That is the way it is done

'clap'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: KC_Guy on June 07, 2013, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere. I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using. The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day. For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?". "I have been so good, I deserve it".

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
You kicked some major ass in that situation brother. I have not been around anyone using nicotine since my quit 19 days ago. I plan on being a bad ass like you though when it happens.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Dlee3 on June 08, 2013, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere. I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using. The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day. For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?". "I have been so good, I deserve it".

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
You a bad mother fucker.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on June 08, 2013, 01:49:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere. I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using. The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day. For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?". "I have been so good, I deserve it".

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
You are my fucking hero!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on June 08, 2013, 01:54:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere. I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using. The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day. For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?". "I have been so good, I deserve it".

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
Its called, "handlin yo business"
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on June 08, 2013, 01:55:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere. I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using. The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day. For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?". "I have been so good, I deserve it".

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
THIS is how you quit without fear! My favorite word in your whole post was the "smirk". I freaking LOVE that! Not only did you beat nic down but you felt superior, not scared doing it.

You made my quit stronger this weekend. Thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on June 08, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere.  I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using.  The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day.  For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?".  "I have been so good, I deserve it". 

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
THIS is how you quit without fear! My favorite word in your whole post was the "smirk". I freaking LOVE that! Not only did you beat nic down but you felt superior, not scared doing it.

You made my quit stronger this weekend. Thank you for sharing!
Great post got2. I to have to work around the poison all the time. Some of my friends don't hesitate for one second to put a lipper in.

I don't ask them to wait until i'm not around. I tell them it doesn't bother me. I use to get bothered by it, but now i have that little smirk. I'ts up to them if they want to be bound tied and gagged by the poison. I try and tell them that life is so much better without that crap. Some believe me, but i can see the control of the poison on there faces. I think to myself sometimes,, what can i say or do to help. I tell them about the sight and let them know if they really want to quit i know where they can go for help. I usually get looked at like i'm crazy. It's so hard to leave the love of their lives. I was there,, i know the feeling. I quit with you for another day brother.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Kubrick on June 08, 2013, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere.  I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using.  The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day.  For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?".  "I have been so good, I deserve it". 

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
THIS is how you quit without fear! My favorite word in your whole post was the "smirk". I freaking LOVE that! Not only did you beat nic down but you felt superior, not scared doing it.

You made my quit stronger this weekend. Thank you for sharing!
Great post got2. I to have to work around the poison all the time. Some of my friends don't hesitate for one second to put a lipper in.

I don't ask them to wait until i'm not around. I tell them it doesn't bother me. I use to get bothered by it, but now i have that little smirk. I'ts up to them if they want to be bound tied and gagged by the poison. I try and tell them that life is so much better without that crap. Some believe me, but i can see the control of the poison on there faces. I think to myself sometimes,, what can i say or do to help. I tell them about the sight and let them know if they really want to quit i know where they can go for help. I usually get looked at like i'm crazy. It's so hard to leave the love of their lives. I was there,, i know the feeling. I quit with you for another day brother.
It's easy to have a smirk and also feel pity since they are still slaves to the can while you and the rest of the bad ass quitters here are free.

I'll take freedom any day over putting that garbage in my face ever again.

Quit with everyone here today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: RAZD611 on June 08, 2013, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: srans
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere.  I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using.  The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day.  For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?".  "I have been so good, I deserve it". 

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
THIS is how you quit without fear! My favorite word in your whole post was the "smirk". I freaking LOVE that! Not only did you beat nic down but you felt superior, not scared doing it.

You made my quit stronger this weekend. Thank you for sharing!
Great post got2. I to have to work around the poison all the time. Some of my friends don't hesitate for one second to put a lipper in.

I don't ask them to wait until i'm not around. I tell them it doesn't bother me. I use to get bothered by it, but now i have that little smirk. I'ts up to them if they want to be bound tied and gagged by the poison. I try and tell them that life is so much better without that crap. Some believe me, but i can see the control of the poison on there faces. I think to myself sometimes,, what can i say or do to help. I tell them about the sight and let them know if they really want to quit i know where they can go for help. I usually get looked at like i'm crazy. It's so hard to leave the love of their lives. I was there,, i know the feeling. I quit with you for another day brother.
It's easy to have a smirk and also feel pity since they are still slaves to the can while you and the rest of the bad ass quitters here are free.

I'll take freedom any day over putting that garbage in my face ever again.

Quit with everyone here today.
Victory is mine (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Post&CODE=06&f=25&t=7677&p=22657628)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on June 08, 2013, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: srans
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere.  I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using.  The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day.  For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?".  "I have been so good, I deserve it". 

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
THIS is how you quit without fear! My favorite word in your whole post was the "smirk". I freaking LOVE that! Not only did you beat nic down but you felt superior, not scared doing it.

You made my quit stronger this weekend. Thank you for sharing!
Great post got2. I to have to work around the poison all the time. Some of my friends don't hesitate for one second to put a lipper in.

I don't ask them to wait until i'm not around. I tell them it doesn't bother me. I use to get bothered by it, but now i have that little smirk. I'ts up to them if they want to be bound tied and gagged by the poison. I try and tell them that life is so much better without that crap. Some believe me, but i can see the control of the poison on there faces. I think to myself sometimes,, what can i say or do to help. I tell them about the sight and let them know if they really want to quit i know where they can go for help. I usually get looked at like i'm crazy. It's so hard to leave the love of their lives. I was there,, i know the feeling. I quit with you for another day brother.
It's easy to have a smirk and also feel pity since they are still slaves to the can while you and the rest of the bad ass quitters here are free.

I'll take freedom any day over putting that garbage in my face ever again.

Quit with everyone here today.
Victory is mine (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Post&CODE=06&f=25&t=7677&p=22657628)
I actually laugh when I see those guys do the "hack".

I know that feeling too.

Just needed that little bit more of nicotine and so they put it in. It becomes too much and their body realizes its being poisoned. Suddenly, the coughing erupts. It starts out as a throat cough. You see the look of confusion on their faces while they realize that maybe this giant glob in their lips contributed to this cough.

The cough begins to break up the rest of the fatty, and then the real fun begins. The poison and subsequent cough have now moved to the lungs and the body is in full "fight or flight" mode trying to expelled that shit. They begin wheezing. Little spots form in their eyes that only they can see.

They are finally resorting to pulling out the poison.

You see the disgust with both themselves and their addiction at this moment. They toss it, take a drink of anything close, and sigh a relieved breath that they are not dying. You see the thoughts in their heads.I need to quit. Damn. What am I doing to myself? Why?

And then it hits.

The empty lip screams.

Its only been a few seconds but these guys are already going back on that near death experience and rewriting history. Obviously, the chew had nothing to do with itÂ…

It never fails. I see this all the time from guys that tell me they chew because they want to.

Damn. I don't miss it for a second.

At all.

Way took much good now.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 09, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: srans
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere.  I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using.  The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day.  For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?".  "I have been so good, I deserve it". 

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
THIS is how you quit without fear! My favorite word in your whole post was the "smirk". I freaking LOVE that! Not only did you beat nic down but you felt superior, not scared doing it.

You made my quit stronger this weekend. Thank you for sharing!
Great post got2. I to have to work around the poison all the time. Some of my friends don't hesitate for one second to put a lipper in.

I don't ask them to wait until i'm not around. I tell them it doesn't bother me. I use to get bothered by it, but now i have that little smirk. I'ts up to them if they want to be bound tied and gagged by the poison. I try and tell them that life is so much better without that crap. Some believe me, but i can see the control of the poison on there faces. I think to myself sometimes,, what can i say or do to help. I tell them about the sight and let them know if they really want to quit i know where they can go for help. I usually get looked at like i'm crazy. It's so hard to leave the love of their lives. I was there,, i know the feeling. I quit with you for another day brother.
It's easy to have a smirk and also feel pity since they are still slaves to the can while you and the rest of the bad ass quitters here are free.

I'll take freedom any day over putting that garbage in my face ever again.

Quit with everyone here today.
Victory is mine (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Post&CODE=06&f=25&t=7677&p=22657628)
I actually laugh when I see those guys do the "hack".

I know that feeling too.

Just needed that little bit more of nicotine and so they put it in. It becomes too much and their body realizes its being poisoned. Suddenly, the coughing erupts. It starts out as a throat cough. You see the look of confusion on their faces while they realize that maybe this giant glob in their lips contributed to this cough.

The cough begins to break up the rest of the fatty, and then the real fun begins. The poison and subsequent cough have now moved to the lungs and the body is in full "fight or flight" mode trying to expelled that shit. They begin wheezing. Little spots form in their eyes that only they can see.

They are finally resorting to pulling out the poison.

You see the disgust with both themselves and their addiction at this moment. They toss it, take a drink of anything close, and sigh a relieved breath that they are not dying. You see the thoughts in their heads.I need to quit. Damn. What am I doing to myself? Why?

And then it hits.

The empty lip screams.

Its only been a few seconds but these guys are already going back on that near death experience and rewriting history. Obviously, the chew had nothing to do with itÂ…

It never fails. I see this all the time from guys that tell me they chew because they want to.

Damn. I don't miss it for a second.

At all.

Way took much good now.
OMG Wastepanel, I know the hack well. But I didn't realize it was a phenomenon though. I do not miss those days.

Well I made it through the wedding but I must say I was distracted by watching at least 1/2 of the guests constantly booking outside for their 30 min fix. I even noticed 3 or 4 people that could barely leave the smoking area because their addiction is that profound. You know the chainsmoker type. I was no different. I remember being that dependent, I remember those 2+ tin days where I couldn't get enough no matter how full I crammed it.

There were also a bunch of dippers at the wedding too. Dumbasses in suits and tuxedos with a spitter in hand and golf balls in their lip. If I had any idea how fucking stupid I looked I would have quit 10 years ago.

I do not miss those days. It was so nice to just sit back and be quit. Looking around taking it all in. Not looking for excuses to run to the car or make a phone. Instead I got to enjoy every minute of the wedding.

Thank you for the texts of encouragement. Time to post roll, I think I will quit again today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 09, 2013, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: srans
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Holy shit. it was a battle of epic proportions. My sister is getting married tomorrow and I just played 18 holes with her wedding party. Cigars, cigarettes, and dip were everywhere.  I must have been the only one out of 16 people not using.  The guy I rode with had a lipper in the whole day.  For a split second, after a couple beers I almost said "fuck it, why not?".  "I have been so good, I deserve it". 

Then I thought to myself, because I'm a bad mother fucker, that's why, and I don't need it. I spent the rest of the round with a little smirk on my face that I could not wipe clean. Victory is sweet.
THIS is how you quit without fear! My favorite word in your whole post was the "smirk". I freaking LOVE that! Not only did you beat nic down but you felt superior, not scared doing it.

You made my quit stronger this weekend. Thank you for sharing!
Great post got2. I to have to work around the poison all the time. Some of my friends don't hesitate for one second to put a lipper in.

I don't ask them to wait until i'm not around. I tell them it doesn't bother me. I use to get bothered by it, but now i have that little smirk. I'ts up to them if they want to be bound tied and gagged by the poison. I try and tell them that life is so much better without that crap. Some believe me, but i can see the control of the poison on there faces. I think to myself sometimes,, what can i say or do to help. I tell them about the sight and let them know if they really want to quit i know where they can go for help. I usually get looked at like i'm crazy. It's so hard to leave the love of their lives. I was there,, i know the feeling. I quit with you for another day brother.
It's easy to have a smirk and also feel pity since they are still slaves to the can while you and the rest of the bad ass quitters here are free.

I'll take freedom any day over putting that garbage in my face ever again.

Quit with everyone here today.
Victory is mine (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Post&CODE=06&f=25&t=7677&p=22657628)
I actually laugh when I see those guys do the "hack".

I know that feeling too.

Just needed that little bit more of nicotine and so they put it in. It becomes too much and their body realizes its being poisoned. Suddenly, the coughing erupts. It starts out as a throat cough. You see the look of confusion on their faces while they realize that maybe this giant glob in their lips contributed to this cough.

The cough begins to break up the rest of the fatty, and then the real fun begins. The poison and subsequent cough have now moved to the lungs and the body is in full "fight or flight" mode trying to expelled that shit. They begin wheezing. Little spots form in their eyes that only they can see.

They are finally resorting to pulling out the poison.

You see the disgust with both themselves and their addiction at this moment. They toss it, take a drink of anything close, and sigh a relieved breath that they are not dying. You see the thoughts in their heads.I need to quit. Damn. What am I doing to myself? Why?

And then it hits.

The empty lip screams.

Its only been a few seconds but these guys are already going back on that near death experience and rewriting history. Obviously, the chew had nothing to do with itÂ…

It never fails. I see this all the time from guys that tell me they chew because they want to.

Damn. I don't miss it for a second.

At all.

Way took much good now.
OMG Wastepanel, I know the hack well. But I didn't realize it was a phenomenon though. I do not miss those days.

Well I made it through the wedding but I must say I was distracted by watching at least 1/2 of the guests constantly booking outside for their 30 min fix. I even noticed 3 or 4 people that could barely leave the smoking area because their addiction is that profound. You know the chainsmoker type. I was no different. I remember being that dependent, I remember those 2+ tin days where I couldn't get enough no matter how full I crammed it.

There were also a bunch of dippers at the wedding too. Dumbasses in suits and tuxedos with a spitter in hand and golf balls in their lip. If I had any idea how fucking stupid I looked I would have quit 10 years ago.

I do not miss those days. It was so nice to just sit back and be quit. Looking around taking it all in. Not looking for excuses to run to the car or make a phone. Instead I got to enjoy every minute of the wedding.

Thank you for the texts of encouragement. Time to post roll, I think I will quit again today.
QLF. Another day another dollar. Forgot to post roll today, thanks JB
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 14, 2013, 06:24:00 AM
I nabbed this little gem from Skoal Monster. I shall place it somewhere that I can always find it. It is one of many inspirational posts that I have saved. Personally I think it belongs in words of wisdom. Enjoy

fear and shame fade , by Skoal Monster


Hold onto the memory of how badly you wanted to quit.
Remember all the broken promises, all the failed attempts, all the prayers and gimmicks and lies. Remember all the false starts all the resolutions. Remember the hundreds and thousands of "tomorrows" .

Congratulate yourself on every victory but be patient.
Hold onto your freedom. Enjoy not being tethered to a can.
Savor the absence of nagging fear.
Celebrate longer life, better health, stronger relationships.


Let go of your expectations around quitting. Just Quit
Accept all the craves, the mood swings, the anxiety, the withdrawls.
Like waves they will crash in then recede back to calm.

Life will still be harsh.Expect that. Addiction only compounds the problem.

No reason is good enough to sell your soul, the climbs too hard to throw away.

Quitting is as simple as you choose to make it. It is the imaginary constructs of your mind that makes it seem difficult.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 15, 2013, 02:47:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I nabbed this little gem from Skoal Monster. I shall place it somewhere that I can always find it. It is one of many inspirational posts that I have saved. Personally I think it belongs in words of wisdom. Enjoy

fear and shame fade , by Skoal Monster


Hold onto the memory of how badly you wanted to quit.
Remember all the broken promises, all the failed attempts, all the prayers and gimmicks and lies. Remember all the false starts all the resolutions. Remember the hundreds and thousands of "tomorrows" .

Congratulate yourself on every victory but be patient.
Hold onto your freedom. Enjoy not being tethered to a can.
Savor the absence of nagging fear.
Celebrate longer life, better health, stronger relationships.


Let go of your expectations around quitting. Just Quit
Accept all the craves, the mood swings, the anxiety, the withdrawls.
Like waves they will crash in then recede back to calm.

Life will still be harsh.Expect that. Addiction only compounds the problem.

No reason is good enough to sell your soul, the climbs too hard to throw away.

Quitting is as simple as you choose to make it. It is the imaginary constructs of your mind that makes it seem difficult.
I would like to shake Skoal Monsters hand one day.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on June 16, 2013, 02:16:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me?  Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be.   It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH.   But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
I live in Michigan too. Maybe we could give him a double slap down. I think he needs it.

I think he also has the same problem I had...no patience. I wanted to be "cured" and I wanted it NOW.

"What's that? There is no cure, I will begin to feel better over time? Well how long? You don't know, it could be months????? Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck this site, and fuck the horse you rode in on. I don't believe your bullshit. I'm not gonna cave, but fuck you and thanks for the support...fuckers. Fuck......fuck....FUUUUCCCCCKKKK THIS SUUUUCCCCKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"

Been there, thought THAT. It will get better. I promise.
Reading through this intro and OMG... Best. Post. Ever.

You rock Diesel!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on June 16, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me?  Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be.   It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH.   But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
I live in Michigan too. Maybe we could give him a double slap down. I think he needs it.

I think he also has the same problem I had...no patience. I wanted to be "cured" and I wanted it NOW.

"What's that? There is no cure, I will begin to feel better over time? Well how long? You don't know, it could be months????? Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck this site, and fuck the horse you rode in on. I don't believe your bullshit. I'm not gonna cave, but fuck you and thanks for the support...fuckers. Fuck......fuck....FUUUUCCCCCKKKK THIS SUUUUCCCCKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"

Been there, thought THAT. It will get better. I promise.
Reading through this intro and OMG... Best. Post. Ever.

You rock Diesel!
You have come a long way there Ryan, well done my friend. (remember that which we have fought through and won helps as we move forward through life).

So proud quitting with you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 16, 2013, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me?� Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be.�� It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH.�� But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
I live in Michigan too. Maybe we could give him a double slap down. I think he needs it.

I think he also has the same problem I had...no patience. I wanted to be "cured" and I wanted it NOW.

"What's that? There is no cure, I will begin to feel better over time? Well how long? You don't know, it could be months????? Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck this site, and fuck the horse you rode in on. I don't believe your bullshit. I'm not gonna cave, but fuck you and thanks for the support...fuckers. Fuck......fuck....FUUUUCCCCCKKKK THIS SUUUUCCCCKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"

Been there, thought THAT. It will get better. I promise.
Reading through this intro and OMG... Best. Post. Ever.

You rock Diesel!
You have come a long way there Ryan, well done my friend. (remember that which we have fought through and won helps as we move forward through life).

So proud quitting with you.
Wow. Memory lane. I am do happy to be quit today. The support I received early on and the friendships I have made are helping me to build a fortress of quit. I am still working on the foundation, but I know it will be strong. I have a lifetime to finish the project. I am no longer ina hurry. Slow and steady wins the race. Quit on friends, Ryan.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on June 16, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me?  Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be.   It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH.   But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
I live in Michigan too. Maybe we could give him a double slap down. I think he needs it.

I think he also has the same problem I had...no patience. I wanted to be "cured" and I wanted it NOW.

"What's that? There is no cure, I will begin to feel better over time? Well how long? You don't know, it could be months????? Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck this site, and fuck the horse you rode in on. I don't believe your bullshit. I'm not gonna cave, but fuck you and thanks for the support...fuckers. Fuck......fuck....FUUUUCCCCCKKKK THIS SUUUUCCCCKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"

Been there, thought THAT. It will get better. I promise.
Reading through this intro and OMG... Best. Post. Ever.

You rock Diesel!
I'm sure ill be asked to no longer post on this intro because I'm such an asshole.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Timeless117 on June 16, 2013, 04:58:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me?  Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be.   It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH.   But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
I live in Michigan too. Maybe we could give him a double slap down. I think he needs it.

I think he also has the same problem I had...no patience. I wanted to be "cured" and I wanted it NOW.

"What's that? There is no cure, I will begin to feel better over time? Well how long? You don't know, it could be months????? Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck this site, and fuck the horse you rode in on. I don't believe your bullshit. I'm not gonna cave, but fuck you and thanks for the support...fuckers. Fuck......fuck....FUUUUCCCCCKKKK THIS SUUUUCCCCKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"

Been there, thought THAT. It will get better. I promise.
Reading through this intro and OMG... Best. Post. Ever.

You rock Diesel!
I'm sure ill be asked to no longer post on this intro because I'm such an asshole.
Well it's good that you can admit it freely. That's a step in the right direction at least.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 16, 2013, 07:52:00 PM
Quote from: Timeless117
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Can someone post roll for me?  Can't do it from my phone. I am still in it to win it. It's just that part of me doesn't want to be.   It's the weekend damn it, I want my Grizzly and I want my ETOH.   But instead......I quit with all of you today. Thank you for the concern, as underserved as it is. Thank you. maybe someday I can pay it forward when I am not such a degenerate, feeling sorry for themselves, brokedown loser.


Thanks

Got2Happen (Ryan)
'finger point'

You dont want it. Your addict brain is telling you that. You dont need it.

What good has come of dipping? Answer that honestly and I think you will be amazed at the clarity.

Also, you have my number - feel free to use it. Hell, I am less than an hour from you by car if you need someone to slap some sense into you.

Anyway - you are on roll today. No nic for you!
I live in Michigan too. Maybe we could give him a double slap down. I think he needs it.

I think he also has the same problem I had...no patience. I wanted to be "cured" and I wanted it NOW.

"What's that? There is no cure, I will begin to feel better over time? Well how long? You don't know, it could be months????? Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck this site, and fuck the horse you rode in on. I don't believe your bullshit. I'm not gonna cave, but fuck you and thanks for the support...fuckers. Fuck......fuck....FUUUUCCCCCKKKK THIS SUUUUCCCCKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"

Been there, thought THAT. It will get better. I promise.
Reading through this intro and OMG... Best. Post. Ever.

You rock Diesel!
I'm sure ill be asked to no longer post on this intro because I'm such an asshole.
Well it's good that you can admit it freely. That's a step in the right direction at least.
Wow. Memory lane. I am do happy to be quit today. The support I received early on and the friendships I have made are helping me to build a fortress of quit. I am still working on the foundation, but I know it will be strong. I have a lifetime to finish the project. I am no longer ina hurry. Slow and steady wins the race. Quit on friends, Ryan.


Oh and by the way, Deisel is an asshole. In addition to belonging to KTC, he also belongs to assholes anonymous. But I will tell what, the man knows how to help an addict hear what he needs to hear exactly when he needs to hear, and for that I love the man. Thanks Deisel. You can post on this thread any damn time you want. I have read every word you have ever written on this site.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 19, 2013, 09:03:00 PM
Day 170

Not much to say at this point, just happy to be quit today.

Scratched that itch for so damn long, I can't believe it. What a shame. Wish I had quit 10 years ago. Wish someone had told me it was possible. Wish someone had told me there was a way. Who knows, I probably wouldn't have listened anyway?

Better yet, I wish I had never started. Hey, do you know the best time to quit?

Never start!

Do you know the next best time to quit?

Today.

I quit with all of you today.

Neewbies out there, press on. It gets so much better.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Sage on June 20, 2013, 01:46:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 170

Not much to say at this point, just happy to be quit today.

Scratched that itch for so damn long, I can't believe it. What a shame. Wish I had quit 10 years ago. Wish someone had told me it was possible. Wish someone had told me there was a way. Who knows, I probably wouldn't have listened anyway?

Better yet, I wish I had never started. Hey, do you know the best time to quit?

Never start!

Do you know the next best time to quit?

Today.

I quit with all of you today.

Neewbies out there, press on. It gets so much better.
So happy to be quit with you!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on June 20, 2013, 07:36:00 AM
Quote from: Sage
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 170

Not much to say at this point, just happy to be quit today.

Scratched that itch for so damn long, I can't believe it. What a shame.  Wish I had quit 10 years ago.  Wish someone had told me it was possible.  Wish someone had told me there was a way.  Who knows, I probably wouldn't have listened anyway?

Better yet, I wish I had never started.  Hey, do you know the best time to quit?

Never start!

Do you know the next best time to quit?

Today. 

I quit with all of you today. 

Neewbies out there, press on.  It gets so much better.
So happy to be quit with you!
I probably wouldn't have listened anyway?
You hit the nail on the head here...I wouldnt have listened I was on my way out with a can in my chest pocket of my funeral suit or whatever they tuck you in the ground with. I put a tin in my Grampa's suit pocket before we lowered him so pretty sure I was on the same path.

Glad you are here n glad to quit with you today ODAAT
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on June 20, 2013, 08:21:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: Sage
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 170

Not much to say at this point, just happy to be quit today.

Scratched that itch for so damn long, I can't believe it. What a shame.  Wish I had quit 10 years ago.  Wish someone had told me it was possible.  Wish someone had told me there was a way.  Who knows, I probably wouldn't have listened anyway?

Better yet, I wish I had never started.  Hey, do you know the best time to quit?

Never start!

Do you know the next best time to quit?

Today. 

I quit with all of you today. 

Neewbies out there, press on.  It gets so much better.
So happy to be quit with you!
I probably wouldn't have listened anyway?
You hit the nail on the head here...I wouldnt have listened I was on my way out with a can in my chest pocket of my funeral suit or whatever they tuck you in the ground with. I put a tin in my Grampa's suit pocket before we lowered him so pretty sure I was on the same path.

Glad you are here n glad to quit with you today ODAAT
There is terminology I use for us before we finally gave up the poison. Tin headed. When you are tin headed there is nothing that can change you or get you off the poison. You have an excuse for every comment. As long as you got your trusty tin,, everything in the world is good. Tin headed- Ignorant slave to a can of poison. Glad to be quit with all you x tin heads today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: omahaflyer on June 20, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: Sage
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 170

Not much to say at this point, just happy to be quit today.

Scratched that itch for so damn long, I can't believe it. What a shame.  Wish I had quit 10 years ago.  Wish someone had told me it was possible.  Wish someone had told me there was a way.  Who knows, I probably wouldn't have listened anyway?

Better yet, I wish I had never started.  Hey, do you know the best time to quit?

Never start!

Do you know the next best time to quit?

Today. 

I quit with all of you today. 

Neewbies out there, press on.  It gets so much better.
So happy to be quit with you!
I probably wouldn't have listened anyway?
You hit the nail on the head here...I wouldnt have listened I was on my way out with a can in my chest pocket of my funeral suit or whatever they tuck you in the ground with. I put a tin in my Grampa's suit pocket before we lowered him so pretty sure I was on the same path.

Glad you are here n glad to quit with you today ODAAT
There is terminology I use for us before we finally gave up the poison. Tin headed. When you are tin headed there is nothing that can change you or get you off the poison. You have an excuse for every comment. As long as you got your trusty tin,, everything in the world is good. Tin headed- Ignorant slave to a can of poison. Glad to be quit with all you x tin heads today.
Count me happy that I and We are quit.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 04, 2013, 07:45:00 AM
Day 185, ahhh it feels so damn good.

Had another awesome first yesterday. Took the boat out with the wife, kids and some friends yesterday. Spent all morning pulling the kids around on the tube and then spent most of afternoon knee deep at the sandbar drinking beer with friends. In my former life this was primetime dip time. No mas!! It feels great to no longer be a slave. It feels great to be in control. It feels great to be committed. It feels great to know I made a promise at 530am that morning. It feels great to know that I am a man of my word. I had some cravings though, not gonna lie. But I never entertained the thought. It was just mildly annoying. My quit was in no danger at all, but damn it pisses me off that I still even think about it.

That is the bitch about addiction, I dont think it ever goes away. Some screwed up part of me will probably always say, "a dip would be great right now". Two seconds is all it takes to blow a quit if you are not mentally prepared. Blaaaah, puke, yuck!! Hell no it wouldn't be great, not ever. Thank God we were given the ability to rational. Two seconds of rational thought is all it takes to remind myself why I quit. NEVER FORGET DAY ONE FOLKS, best damn advice I have ever seen on this sight.

I hope you have a safe and fun Independence day. Stay quit!!

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on July 04, 2013, 08:19:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 185, ahhh it feels so damn good.

Had another awesome first yesterday. Took the boat out with the wife, kids and some friends yesterday. Spent all morning pulling the kids around on the tube and then spent most of afternoon knee deep at the sandbar drinking beer with friends. In my former life this was primetime dip time. No mas!! It feels great to no longer be a slave. It feels great to be in control. It feels great to be committed. It feels great to know I made a promise at 530am that morning. It feels great to know that I am a man of my word. I had some cravings though, not gonna lie. But I never entertained the thought. It was just mildly annoying. My quit was in no danger at all, but damn it pisses me off that I still even think about it.

That is the bitch about addiction, I dont think it ever goes away. Some screwed up part of me will probably always say, "a dip would be great right now". Two seconds is all it takes to blow a quit if you are not mentally prepared. Blaaaah, puke, yuck!! Hell no it wouldn't be great, not ever. Thank God we were given the ability to rational. Two seconds of rational thought is all it takes to remind myself why I quit. NEVER FORGET DAY ONE FOLKS, best damn advice I have ever seen on this sight.

I hope you have a safe and fun Independence day. Stay quit!!

Ryan
Darnit ryan, there you go again. I was really hoping by day 185 the craves would be gone totally and I would never think about the poison again. Whatever, no matter, i'll keep posting and winning with you every damn day.

Glad to see your enjoying life without the poison. I've been enjoying life as well without the poison. The poison had us so screwed up, didn't it?? I still can't believe all the lies I believed. I remember a day not long ago when I couldn't see that life was better without it. Me and you are now proving that so wrong. I'm glad to be walking this journey with you brother.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on July 04, 2013, 09:19:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 185, ahhh it feels so damn good.

Had another awesome first yesterday.  Took the boat out with the wife, kids and some friends yesterday.  Spent all morning pulling the kids around on the tube and then spent most of afternoon knee deep at the sandbar drinking beer with friends.  In my former life this was primetime dip time.  No mas!!  It feels great to no longer be a slave.  It feels great to be in control.  It feels great to be committed.  It feels great to know I made a promise at 530am that morning.  It feels great to know that I am a man of my word.  I had some cravings though, not gonna lie.  But I never entertained the thought.  It was just mildly annoying.  My quit was in no danger at all, but damn it pisses me off that I still even think about it.

That is the bitch about addiction, I dont think it ever goes away.  Some screwed up part of me will probably always say, "a dip would be great right now".  Two seconds is all it takes to blow a quit if you are not mentally prepared.  Blaaaah, puke, yuck!!  Hell no it wouldn't be great, not ever.  Thank God we were given the ability to rational.  Two seconds of rational thought is all it takes to remind myself why I quit.  NEVER FORGET DAY ONE FOLKS, best damn advice I have ever seen on this sight.

I hope you have a safe and fun Independence day.  Stay quit!!

Ryan
Darnit ryan, there you go again. I was really hoping by day 185 the craves would be gone totally and I would never think about the poison again. Whatever, no matter, i'll keep posting and winning with you every damn day.

Glad to see your enjoying life without the poison. I've been enjoying life as well without the poison. The poison had us so screwed up, didn't it?? I still can't believe all the lies I believed. I remember a day not long ago when I couldn't see that life was better without it. Me and you are now proving that so wrong. I'm glad to be walking this journey with you brother.
Awesome to be free.. But you still have to embrace patience.. when I had your numbers 185ish, I was still thinking about dip occasionally. In my 200's the dip thoughts lessened even more, but I had 2 funks.. around 220's, and around 280's.. Once I hit the third floor the skies really parted for me. I truly believe this is where I really started feeling good. Dip thoughts now? none... It's no longer a substance to me, but just a bad word... Keep plugging along, you're doing great, and proud to see you enjoying your life without the shackles..peace
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Kubrick on July 04, 2013, 10:01:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 185, ahhh it feels so damn good.

Had another awesome first yesterday.  Took the boat out with the wife, kids and some friends yesterday.  Spent all morning pulling the kids around on the tube and then spent most of afternoon knee deep at the sandbar drinking beer with friends.  In my former life this was primetime dip time.  No mas!!  It feels great to no longer be a slave.  It feels great to be in control.  It feels great to be committed.  It feels great to know I made a promise at 530am that morning.  It feels great to know that I am a man of my word.  I had some cravings though, not gonna lie.  But I never entertained the thought.  It was just mildly annoying.  My quit was in no danger at all, but damn it pisses me off that I still even think about it.

That is the bitch about addiction, I dont think it ever goes away.  Some screwed up part of me will probably always say, "a dip would be great right now".  Two seconds is all it takes to blow a quit if you are not mentally prepared.  Blaaaah, puke, yuck!!  Hell no it wouldn't be great, not ever.  Thank God we were given the ability to rational.  Two seconds of rational thought is all it takes to remind myself why I quit.  NEVER FORGET DAY ONE FOLKS, best damn advice I have ever seen on this sight.

I hope you have a safe and fun Independence day.  Stay quit!!

Ryan
Darnit ryan, there you go again. I was really hoping by day 185 the craves would be gone totally and I would never think about the poison again. Whatever, no matter, i'll keep posting and winning with you every damn day.

Glad to see your enjoying life without the poison. I've been enjoying life as well without the poison. The poison had us so screwed up, didn't it?? I still can't believe all the lies I believed. I remember a day not long ago when I couldn't see that life was better without it. Me and you are now proving that so wrong. I'm glad to be walking this journey with you brother.
Awesome to be free.. But you still have to embrace patience.. when I had your numbers 185ish, I was still thinking about dip occasionally. In my 200's the dip thoughts lessened even more, but I had 2 funks.. around 220's, and around 280's.. Once I hit the third floor the skies really parted for me. I truly believe this is where I really started feeling good. Dip thoughts now? none... It's no longer a substance to me, but just a bad word... Keep plugging along, you're doing great, and proud to see you enjoying your life without the shackles..peace
I still occasionally have days where I "crave" and want a chew like a mofo and I'm pushing 500 days. Those days are rare, sometimes it happens a couple days in a row.

Then I remember that I'm free and don't use or need to use that shit ever again. I stuck that poison in my body for 22+ years. I've only been quit for 1.5. I assume my brain still has some rewiring to do.

That's why I'm still here posting roll every day. I take that crap off the table every morning.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Nickald on July 04, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: kana
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Day 185, ahhh it feels so damn good.

Had another awesome first yesterday.  Took the boat out with the wife, kids and some friends yesterday.  Spent all morning pulling the kids around on the tube and then spent most of afternoon knee deep at the sandbar drinking beer with friends.  In my former life this was primetime dip time.  No mas!!  It feels great to no longer be a slave.  It feels great to be in control.  It feels great to be committed.  It feels great to know I made a promise at 530am that morning.  It feels great to know that I am a man of my word.  I had some cravings though, not gonna lie.  But I never entertained the thought.  It was just mildly annoying.  My quit was in no danger at all, but damn it pisses me off that I still even think about it.

That is the bitch about addiction, I dont think it ever goes away.  Some screwed up part of me will probably always say, "a dip would be great right now".  Two seconds is all it takes to blow a quit if you are not mentally prepared.  Blaaaah, puke, yuck!!  Hell no it wouldn't be great, not ever.  Thank God we were given the ability to rational.  Two seconds of rational thought is all it takes to remind myself why I quit.  NEVER FORGET DAY ONE FOLKS, best damn advice I have ever seen on this sight.

I hope you have a safe and fun Independence day.  Stay quit!!

Ryan
Darnit ryan, there you go again. I was really hoping by day 185 the craves would be gone totally and I would never think about the poison again. Whatever, no matter, i'll keep posting and winning with you every damn day.

Glad to see your enjoying life without the poison. I've been enjoying life as well without the poison. The poison had us so screwed up, didn't it?? I still can't believe all the lies I believed. I remember a day not long ago when I couldn't see that life was better without it. Me and you are now proving that so wrong. I'm glad to be walking this journey with you brother.
Awesome to be free.. But you still have to embrace patience.. when I had your numbers 185ish, I was still thinking about dip occasionally. In my 200's the dip thoughts lessened even more, but I had 2 funks.. around 220's, and around 280's.. Once I hit the third floor the skies really parted for me. I truly believe this is where I really started feeling good. Dip thoughts now? none... It's no longer a substance to me, but just a bad word... Keep plugging along, you're doing great, and proud to see you enjoying your life without the shackles..peace
I still occasionally have days where I "crave" and want a chew like a mofo and I'm pushing 500 days. Those days are rare, sometimes it happens a couple days in a row.

Then I remember that I'm free and don't use or need to use that shit ever again. I stuck that poison in my body for 22+ years. I've only been quit for 1.5. I assume my brain still has some rewiring to do.

That's why I'm still here posting roll every day. I take that crap off the table every morning.
That sounds like a good time you had. I know the feelings you describe well. The shit is still lurking in the back of my mind and has to pop into my thoughts now and again. But like you said a couple of seconds of rational thought sends it away. Have a great 4th of July today. I am goingto take my son fishing today and I think it may turn in to swimming because he will not stay out of the water.

NICK
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Nickald on July 18, 2013, 11:25:00 PM
(early)
Congrats on 200!!!!

NICK
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on July 19, 2013, 07:10:00 AM
Congratulations Ryan. Proud to still be on the train with you!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 19, 2013, 07:13:00 AM
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on July 19, 2013, 08:38:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: omahaflyer on July 19, 2013, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on July 19, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Spartanron on July 19, 2013, 11:39:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: RAZD611 on July 19, 2013, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 19, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Thanks guys. I dig the milestone thing but on the other I realize it is just another +1.

Razd sorry about the walleye, lol, long gone. Guess youll have to come out here and fish with me sometime.

Trauma, sorry to give you a scare. Definately not a cave speech. If it were it would sound something like this

"so I hit 200 today right. So I decided that I will go out and buy me a big juicy can of Kodiac to celebrate. After all I just need to see if I still like the taste. Or better yet, maybe I will go have a cigar on the golfcourse with my father in law."

What do you think guys? Great idea huh?

Sorry Thor and Minnie I dont mean to pick on you, I just want to see if you can hear how stupid that sounds when it comes from someone else.

You wont ever see a cave speech from me. If I were to cave, you would simple never see me again. I would just vanish. This is the last hurrah for me and KTC my last hope. I have tried everything, everything that is, except brotherhood and accountability. And as it turns out brotherhood and accountability was all it took.

Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jaynellie on July 19, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Thanks guys. I dig the milestone thing but on the other I realize it is just another +1.

Razd sorry about the walleye, lol, long gone. Guess youll have to come out here and fish with me sometime.

Trauma, sorry to give you a scare. Definately not a cave speech. If it were it would sound something like this

"so I hit 200 today right. So I decided that I will go out and buy me a big juicy can of Kodiac to celebrate. After all I just need to see if I still like the taste. Or better yet, maybe I will go have a cigar on the golfcourse with my father in law."

What do you think guys? Great idea huh?

Sorry Thor and Minnie I dont mean to pick on you, I just want to see if you can hear how stupid that sounds when it comes from someone else.

You wont ever see a cave speech from me. If I were to cave, you would simple never see me again. I would just vanish. This is the last hurrah for me and KTC my last hope. I have tried everything, everything that is, except brotherhood and accountability. And as it turns out brotherhood and accountability was all it took.

Thanks everyone.
Congrats Ryan on 200!!!! Proud to be part of this journey with you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on July 20, 2013, 01:13:00 AM
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Thanks guys. I dig the milestone thing but on the other I realize it is just another +1.

Razd sorry about the walleye, lol, long gone. Guess youll have to come out here and fish with me sometime.

Trauma, sorry to give you a scare. Definately not a cave speech. If it were it would sound something like this

"so I hit 200 today right. So I decided that I will go out and buy me a big juicy can of Kodiac to celebrate. After all I just need to see if I still like the taste. Or better yet, maybe I will go have a cigar on the golfcourse with my father in law."

What do you think guys? Great idea huh?

Sorry Thor and Minnie I dont mean to pick on you, I just want to see if you can hear how stupid that sounds when it comes from someone else.

You wont ever see a cave speech from me. If I were to cave, you would simple never see me again. I would just vanish. This is the last hurrah for me and KTC my last hope. I have tried everything, everything that is, except brotherhood and accountability. And as it turns out brotherhood and accountability was all it took.

Thanks everyone.
Congrats Ryan on 200!!!! Proud to be part of this journey with you.
I agree me too x2 et c. You are one of my quit heroes Ryan congrates on the second floor! Quit on!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Erussell on July 20, 2013, 07:24:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Thanks guys. I dig the milestone thing but on the other I realize it is just another +1.

Razd sorry about the walleye, lol, long gone. Guess youll have to come out here and fish with me sometime.

Trauma, sorry to give you a scare. Definately not a cave speech. If it were it would sound something like this

"so I hit 200 today right. So I decided that I will go out and buy me a big juicy can of Kodiac to celebrate. After all I just need to see if I still like the taste. Or better yet, maybe I will go have a cigar on the golfcourse with my father in law."

What do you think guys? Great idea huh?

Sorry Thor and Minnie I dont mean to pick on you, I just want to see if you can hear how stupid that sounds when it comes from someone else.

You wont ever see a cave speech from me. If I were to cave, you would simple never see me again. I would just vanish. This is the last hurrah for me and KTC my last hope. I have tried everything, everything that is, except brotherhood and accountability. And as it turns out brotherhood and accountability was all it took.

Thanks everyone.
Congrats Ryan on 200!!!! Proud to be part of this journey with you.
I agree me too x2 et c. You are one of my quit heroes Ryan congrates on the second floor! Quit on!
Congrats man!!! I appreciate all that you have done fr me. Your reaching out and words of wisdom have helped. Again well done on the 200!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mich 34 on July 20, 2013, 10:59:00 AM
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Thanks guys. I dig the milestone thing but on the other I realize it is just another +1.

Razd sorry about the walleye, lol, long gone. Guess youll have to come out here and fish with me sometime.

Trauma, sorry to give you a scare. Definately not a cave speech. If it were it would sound something like this

"so I hit 200 today right. So I decided that I will go out and buy me a big juicy can of Kodiac to celebrate. After all I just need to see if I still like the taste. Or better yet, maybe I will go have a cigar on the golfcourse with my father in law."

What do you think guys? Great idea huh?

Sorry Thor and Minnie I dont mean to pick on you, I just want to see if you can hear how stupid that sounds when it comes from someone else.

You wont ever see a cave speech from me. If I were to cave, you would simple never see me again. I would just vanish. This is the last hurrah for me and KTC my last hope. I have tried everything, everything that is, except brotherhood and accountability. And as it turns out brotherhood and accountability was all it took.

Thanks everyone.
Congrats Ryan on 200!!!! Proud to be part of this journey with you.
I agree me too x2 et c. You are one of my quit heroes Ryan congrates on the second floor! Quit on!
Congrats man!!! I appreciate all that you have done fr me. Your reaching out and words of wisdom have helped. Again well done on the 200!
You are another great example of how to quit! Crazy to look back on the first few posts and see how much has changed. Thanks for making my quit stronger!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on July 21, 2013, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Thanks guys. I dig the milestone thing but on the other I realize it is just another +1.

Razd sorry about the walleye, lol, long gone. Guess youll have to come out here and fish with me sometime.

Trauma, sorry to give you a scare. Definately not a cave speech. If it were it would sound something like this

"so I hit 200 today right. So I decided that I will go out and buy me a big juicy can of Kodiac to celebrate. After all I just need to see if I still like the taste. Or better yet, maybe I will go have a cigar on the golfcourse with my father in law."

What do you think guys? Great idea huh?

Sorry Thor and Minnie I dont mean to pick on you, I just want to see if you can hear how stupid that sounds when it comes from someone else.

You wont ever see a cave speech from me. If I were to cave, you would simple never see me again. I would just vanish. This is the last hurrah for me and KTC my last hope. I have tried everything, everything that is, except brotherhood and accountability. And as it turns out brotherhood and accountability was all it took.

Thanks everyone.
Congrats Ryan on 200!!!! Proud to be part of this journey with you.
I agree me too x2 et c. You are one of my quit heroes Ryan congrates on the second floor! Quit on!
Congrats man!!! I appreciate all that you have done fr me. Your reaching out and words of wisdom have helped. Again well done on the 200!
You are another great example of how to quit! Crazy to look back on the first few posts and see how much has changed. Thanks for making my quit stronger!
I surround myself with strength.. That's why I follow your quit... Proud of you  your journey. peace :D
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wt57 on July 21, 2013, 09:54:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Thanks guys. I dig the milestone thing but on the other I realize it is just another +1.

Razd sorry about the walleye, lol, long gone. Guess youll have to come out here and fish with me sometime.

Trauma, sorry to give you a scare. Definately not a cave speech. If it were it would sound something like this

"so I hit 200 today right. So I decided that I will go out and buy me a big juicy can of Kodiac to celebrate. After all I just need to see if I still like the taste. Or better yet, maybe I will go have a cigar on the golfcourse with my father in law."

What do you think guys? Great idea huh?

Sorry Thor and Minnie I dont mean to pick on you, I just want to see if you can hear how stupid that sounds when it comes from someone else.

You wont ever see a cave speech from me. If I were to cave, you would simple never see me again. I would just vanish. This is the last hurrah for me and KTC my last hope. I have tried everything, everything that is, except brotherhood and accountability. And as it turns out brotherhood and accountability was all it took.

Thanks everyone.
Congrats Ryan on 200!!!! Proud to be part of this journey with you.
I agree me too x2 et c. You are one of my quit heroes Ryan congrates on the second floor! Quit on!
Congrats man!!! I appreciate all that you have done fr me. Your reaching out and words of wisdom have helped. Again well done on the 200!
You are another great example of how to quit! Crazy to look back on the first few posts and see how much has changed. Thanks for making my quit stronger!
I surround myself with strength.. That's why I follow your quit... Proud of you  your journey. peace :D
Outstanding!
'clap'
I also hate few things, but, nicotine addiction and what it stole from me I despise.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Nickald on July 21, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: kana
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: omahaflyer
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Not claming to be a bigger addict, maybe just a weaker individual??  I want to quit, I am quit, 6 days.  Might not be much but its something to me.

I won't be dipping today either, but I am seeing that I need some help.  I am not coping well at all.  I will seek some professional help tomorrow.  I dont think the asshole talk is gonna help much.  I have to talk to a doctor or something.  I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I cannot drink coffee, I cannot drink beer.  So many triggers I am losing my mind.  If there are meds are something that will help me I have to see. 

I may not know what TO DO, but I know what NOT to do.  No dip for me today, I know it will not make this whirlwind go away, it is the cause of it.  Dont know how to PM and wouldnt know what to say.  Gotta go post roll.  Later.
Good, just get through today with no nicotine.

You're not going to like to hear this but to be quite honest, unless you doctor is a former user, he don't shut about quitting this. He will most likely give you a nicotine supplement, chantix, Wellbutrin, or some other aid.

You do not need this stuff. Maybe some melatonin or some other sleep aid, but that's it.

Just trust what we are telling you.
Bump for a reminder of what nicotine did to me and what I did to myself with nicotine.

I don't hate many things, there is almost no hate within me, BUT DAMN, I HATE ADDICTION, AND I HATE TOBACCO.

Thank God that time can heal most things. As I sit here today I feel so much more whole as a person.

It feels good to hit 200 today. However....................I know that I am but an infant in this quit. Maybe today I graduated kindergarden or preschool. That is how I look at it anyway. See you tomorrow boys and girls.

Ryan
Got2, been watching you sense my first day here. Watching you and learning from you has been one of the reasons i'm still here. I keep looking at the days your stacking up and that's some of my motivation. I live one day at a time, but do look forward to walking in that door at 200. If you don't mind, keep the place clean. I hear some of the members in your group like critters. They have really dirtied the place up around here. Darn them critters. Glad to be quit with you bro.
Congrats to you.
Now that I am over the shock of thinking that this was a cave speech I have to read dates closer, I am good. Yes Ryan I always like to read your posts you are an anchor here keep it up...qlf w you today
Nice Job Ryan.
Well Done Sir!!!

PS i never got my dry ice packed Walleye filets in the mail.
Thanks guys. I dig the milestone thing but on the other I realize it is just another +1.

Razd sorry about the walleye, lol, long gone. Guess youll have to come out here and fish with me sometime.

Trauma, sorry to give you a scare. Definately not a cave speech. If it were it would sound something like this

"so I hit 200 today right. So I decided that I will go out and buy me a big juicy can of Kodiac to celebrate. After all I just need to see if I still like the taste. Or better yet, maybe I will go have a cigar on the golfcourse with my father in law."

What do you think guys? Great idea huh?

Sorry Thor and Minnie I dont mean to pick on you, I just want to see if you can hear how stupid that sounds when it comes from someone else.

You wont ever see a cave speech from me. If I were to cave, you would simple never see me again. I would just vanish. This is the last hurrah for me and KTC my last hope. I have tried everything, everything that is, except brotherhood and accountability. And as it turns out brotherhood and accountability was all it took.

Thanks everyone.
Congrats Ryan on 200!!!! Proud to be part of this journey with you.
I agree me too x2 et c. You are one of my quit heroes Ryan congrates on the second floor! Quit on!
Congrats man!!! I appreciate all that you have done fr me. Your reaching out and words of wisdom have helped. Again well done on the 200!
You are another great example of how to quit! Crazy to look back on the first few posts and see how much has changed. Thanks for making my quit stronger!
I surround myself with strength.. That's why I follow your quit... Proud of you  your journey. peace :D
Outstanding!
'clap'
I also hate few things, but, nicotine addiction and what it stole from me I despise.
It is great to be quit with you. Thanks for the texts they always come at a good time. We still need to get to gether and go fishing.
NICK
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 27, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
208 today. Another funk, WTF, cant believe it. Leaving on vacation for a week and I feel frozen. Usually this is when I get 1000 things done before I leave and I feel great and accomplished and deserving of a vacation. These past 2 days I feel like a useless slug. I can't pack, can't get yardwork done and I am driving my wife nuts. Feel like something is missing. 3 days of megafunk?? Work has been shitty, tons of hours, may also be a contributing factor, I dont know.

I almost walked right into a cave on Friday, thought about not posting roll. Actually waited until way later in the morning than usual, but of course came to my senses. Then I got a text from a newbie on day 30 who wanted to talk, He said he was struggling. He was also getting ready to leave for a vacation and that stirred some old feelings. I am glad I was able to help him. It also helped me greatly and reminded me of why I choose this journey.

I do not want dip in any way shape or form, I know this but damn why these odd feelings even after 7 months, really?? I think I am missing the stimulant factor. I feel like nicotine used to give me this conquer the world kind of upper feeling. Coffee seems to help for a few hours in the morning but that only goes so far. I sometimes find myself trying to replace that hyper kick ass felling by drinking more. I have found that it has quite the opposite effect. So I have 5 or 6 beers and it puts me on my ass and I get even less done.

Oh well, just venting. Another day ends just like it started, QUIT. Everyday doesn't have to be great. I will take the good with the bad, all the while basking in the knowledge that nicotine would help nothing. I know for certain that these feelings will pass and I will carry on with my life.

The strange thing about this funk is that I did not feel compelled to reach out to my quit friends. This concerns me a bit however I do not wish to discourage anyone. I feel like I should be farther along at this point?? I especially do not want to discourage newer quitters, which is why I hesitate to even hit the send button on this post.

Add reply or delete? heads or tails? Tails it is. OK I post it.

Newbies....... know this. This shit is hard, but it can be done, and it is so worth it. For the last 2 months I have barely even thought about using, I dont know what this little funk is all about but I know it will pass. I suspect I may have another hurdle once bow season comes around. Guess what? I will be ready for that too, and I will leap that hurdle and have the greatest bow season of my life.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on July 27, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
208 today. Another funk, WTF, cant believe it. Leaving on vacation for a week and I feel frozen. Usually this is when I get 1000 things done before I leave and I feel great and accomplished and deserving of a vacation. These past 2 days I feel like a useless slug. I can't pack, can't get yardwork done and I am driving my wife nuts. Feel like something is missing. 3 days of megafunk?? Work has been shitty, tons of hours, may also be a contributing factor, I dont know.

I almost walked right into a cave on Friday, thought about not posting roll. Actually waited until way later in the morning than usual, but of course came to my senses. Then I got a text from a newbie on day 30 who wanted to talk, He said he was struggling. He was also getting ready to leave for a vacation and that stirred some old feelings. I am glad I was able to help him. It also helped me greatly and reminded me of why I choose this journey.

I do not want dip in any way shape or form, I know this but damn why these odd feelings even after 7 months, really?? I think I am missing the stimulant factor. I feel like nicotine used to give me this conquer the world kind of upper feeling. Coffee seems to help for a few hours in the morning but that only goes so far. I sometimes find myself trying to replace that hyper kick ass felling by drinking more. I have found that it has quite the opposite effect. So I have 5 or 6 beers and it puts me on my ass and I get even less done.

Oh well, just venting. Another day ends just like it started, QUIT. Everyday doesn't have to be great. I will take the good with the bad, all the while basking in the knowledge that nicotine would help nothing. I know for certain that these feelings will pass and I will carry on with my life.

The strange thing about this funk is that I did not feel compelled to reach out to my quit friends. This concerns me a bit however I do not wish to discourage anyone. I feel like I should be farther along at this point?? I especially do not want to discourage newer quitters, which is why I hesitate to even hit the send button on this post.

Add reply or delete? heads or tails? Tails it is. OK I post it.

Newbies....... know this. This shit is hard, but it can be done, and it is so worth it. For the last 2 months I have barely even thought about using, I dont know what this little funk is all about but I know it will pass. I suspect I may have another hurdle once bow season comes around. Guess what? I will be ready for that too, and I will leap that hurdle and have the greatest bow season of my life.
I know what your feeling. A couple Weeks ago i got back from my vacation. Before i went i felt the same way. You got the pre vacation blues. You'll be fine once you get under way and that mind starts its vacation. Word of warning. It took about 2 days on vacation before my brain caught up. After that it was on. My first vacation without the poison. Didn't miss it at all. You won't either. Enjoy your vacation brother. You deserve it.

I'll quit with you any day and don't forget you got my digits brother. Your feeling down, give me a buzz so i can tell you some things that will make your mully grubs a little easier to handle.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on July 28, 2013, 12:19:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
208 today. Another funk, WTF, cant believe it. Leaving on vacation for a week and I feel frozen. Usually this is when I get 1000 things done before I leave and I feel great and accomplished and deserving of a vacation. These past 2 days I feel like a useless slug. I can't pack, can't get yardwork done and I am driving my wife nuts. Feel like something is missing. 3 days of megafunk?? Work has been shitty, tons of hours, may also be a contributing factor, I dont know.

I almost walked right into a cave on Friday, thought about not posting roll. Actually waited until way later in the morning than usual, but of course came to my senses. Then I got a text from a newbie on day 30 who wanted to talk, He said he was struggling. He was also getting ready to leave for a vacation and that stirred some old feelings. I am glad I was able to help him. It also helped me greatly and reminded me of why I choose this journey.

I do not want dip in any way shape or form, I know this but damn why these odd feelings even after 7 months, really?? I think I am missing the stimulant factor. I feel like nicotine used to give me this conquer the world kind of upper feeling. Coffee seems to help for a few hours in the morning but that only goes so far. I sometimes find myself trying to replace that hyper kick ass felling by drinking more. I have found that it has quite the opposite effect. So I have 5 or 6 beers and it puts me on my ass and I get even less done.

Oh well, just venting. Another day ends just like it started, QUIT. Everyday doesn't have to be great. I will take the good with the bad, all the while basking in the knowledge that nicotine would help nothing. I know for certain that these feelings will pass and I will carry on with my life.

The strange thing about this funk is that I did not feel compelled to reach out to my quit friends. This concerns me a bit however I do not wish to discourage anyone. I feel like I should be farther along at this point?? I especially do not want to discourage newer quitters, which is why I hesitate to even hit the send button on this post.

Add reply or delete? heads or tails? Tails it is. OK I post it.

Newbies....... know this. This shit is hard, but it can be done, and it is so worth it. For the last 2 months I have barely even thought about using, I dont know what this little funk is all about but I know it will pass. I suspect I may have another hurdle once bow season comes around. Guess what? I will be ready for that too, and I will leap that hurdle and have the greatest bow season of my life.
Im 420 days quit and just returned from a week's vacation. Silver Lake, Ludington, Muskegon, Traverse City, Frankenmuth and then home.

I too had the pre vacation blahs.

Think there's some kind of Pavlovian thing with vacation where it makes you think of dipping. Once I got there I was fine. I still did "think" about it but not in a bad or overwhelming way.

I used to ninja so I noted all the gas stations that carried my old brand and noted certain points or spots where iI would have dipped in the past. I didn't obsess over it or let it ruin my vacation, I just couldn't help thinking about it now and again. This was only my 2nd family vacation dip free.Last year was my first after being quit for a little over a month and was a fucking disaster. So this was actually great progress in my book.

I feel you though. Even at 420 days sometimes I feel I shouldn't be having certain thoughts or feelings. Most times I'm on cruise control but I'm finding this process can wear on you sometimes.

I'm thinking of posting role and backing away from this site a bit. I sometimes wonder if it contributes to me over thinking shit.

Anyway, I'm probably gonna ramble about this in my own thread soon. Don't mean to hijack yours.

Enjoy you vacation, you will be fine. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: omahaflyer on July 28, 2013, 07:44:00 AM
Stay strong. This too shall pass.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 30, 2013, 06:39:00 AM
Thanks everyone. I received a ton of support and encouragement on here and via text over the last few days. You guys are great. I don't know what the hell it is about vacation but that anxiety rocked my world for a couple days. I am still kind of in survival mode, but I guess so it goes with addiction. Anyone you slice it, this addiction must be battled one day at a time.

I just hate the substitution factor. I am constantly feeling like something is missing, and that bothers me after all this time, 210 days. So what do I do? Start eating like crazy, doritos , pringles, seeds, whatever. I didn't even realize I was developing this habit, but now that I think about it, it really began in Jan when I quit. I used to stay up late and have those last couple of dips. Really packing it in so I could make it thru a nights sleep without the blood nicotine level getting too low. Well now that I don't dip I am just eating a shit load more. Evidenced by the 25-30 I have gained since I quit. I wonder if anyone else has struggled with this. I have known a few former smokers who were thin when they smoked but gained a significant amount of weight after having quit. Maybe it is a good trade off but to me IT IS UNACCEPTABLE. I have to get a handle on this shit. I am embarrassed to admit that I seem to have some kind of emotional eating thing going on now. Where does that end? Oh well, everyone has some kind of struggle, I guess it could be far worse.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: omahaflyer on July 30, 2013, 07:41:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks everyone. I received a ton of support and encouragement on here and via text over the last few days. You guys are great. I don't know what the hell it is about vacation but that anxiety rocked my world for a couple days. I am still kind of in survival mode, but I guess so it goes with addiction. Anyone you slice it, this addiction must be battled one day at a time.

I just hate the substitution factor. I am constantly feeling like something is missing, and that bothers me after all this time, 210 days. So what do I do? Start eating like crazy, doritos , pringles, seeds, whatever. I didn't even realize I was developing this habit, but now that I think about it, it really began in Jan when I quit. I used to stay up late and have those last couple of dips. Really packing it in so I could make it thru a nights sleep without the blood nicotine level getting too low. Well now that I don't dip I am just eating a shit load more. Evidenced by the 25-30 I have gained since I quit. I wonder if anyone else has struggled with this. I have known a few former smokers who were thin when they smoked but gained a significant amount of weight after having quit. Maybe it is a good trade off but to me IT IS UNACCEPTABLE. I have to get a handle on this shit. I am embarrassed to admit that I seem to have some kind of emotional eating thing going on now. Where does that end? Oh well, everyone has some kind of struggle, I guess it could be far worse.
Is there room in your boat for me ?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 14, 2013, 09:54:00 PM
226

Just finished the single shittiest work day in my adult life. 14 hours of pure can go wrong did go wrong bullshit. At every turn the day got worse, almost comically on some level.

It occurred to me when I finally got in my truck and began to proceed home. Not once did I think about the poison. It never ever crossed my mind for even one fleeting second. A few months ago, dip would have dominated my every thought on a day like today.

Now on my drive home that was another story.......................Again as I have said before, my rationale mind thought and knew, dip couldnt possibly do anything to make this shitty day better. But dammit if my addict mind didnt try to execute its will. Couldnt help but think over and over how great it would be to have a dip right now. Oh the blasted addict mind, thank God it is no longer in control of my behavior. I guess it is good to know and remember that the bitch will still try to sneak in. Constantly prowling, ready to devour, looking for the smallest chink in our armor to exploit.

Make a decision, post roll, keep your guard up. Focus, focus, focus. It has gotten so much easier. Newbies, keep the faith. Learn the program, use the tools. This can be done. It is so worth it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on August 14, 2013, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
226

Just finished the single shittiest work day in my adult life. 14 hours of pure can go wrong did go wrong bullshit. At every turn the day got worse, almost comically on some level.

It occurred to me when I finally got in my truck and began to proceed home. Not once did I think about the poison. It never ever crossed my mind for even one fleeting second. A few months ago, dip would have dominated my every thought on a day like today.

Now on my drive home that was another story.......................Again as I have said before, my rationale mind thought and knew, dip couldnt possibly do anything to make this shitty day better. But dammit if my addict mind didnt try to execute its will. Couldnt help but think over and over how great it would be to have a dip right now. Oh the blasted addict mind, thank God it is no longer in control of my behavior. I guess it is good to know and remember that the bitch will still try to sneak in. Constantly prowling, ready to devour, looking for the smallest chink in our armor to exploit.

Make a decision, post roll, keep your guard up. Focus, focus, focus. It has gotten so much easier. Newbies, keep the faith. Learn the program, use the tools. This can be done. It is so worth it.
That is a great example of mind over matter. Way to stay QUIT! Posting that had to be great self gratification. I QUIT with you any day.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Wade on August 14, 2013, 11:05:00 PM
Quote
226

Just finished the single shittiest work day in my adult life.  14 hours of pure can go wrong did go wrong bullshit.  At every turn the day got worse, almost comically on some level. 

It occurred to me when I finally got in my truck and began to proceed home.  Not once did I think about the poison.  It never ever crossed my mind for even one fleeting second.  A few months ago, dip would have dominated my every thought on a day like today. 

Now on my drive home that was another story.......................Again as I have said before, my rationale mind thought and knew, dip couldnt possibly do anything to make this shitty day better.  But dammit if my addict mind didnt try to execute its will.  Couldnt help but think over and over how great it would be to have a dip right now.  Oh the blasted addict mind, thank God it is no longer in control of my behavior.  I guess it is good to know and remember that the bitch will still try to sneak in.  Constantly prowling, ready to devour, looking for the smallest chink in our armor to exploit. 

Make a decision, post roll, keep your guard up.  Focus, focus, focus.  It has gotten so much easier.  Newbies, keep the faith.  Learn the program, use the tools.  This can be done.  It is so worth it.
Preach it brother! Keep the fucking faith.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on August 15, 2013, 06:14:00 AM
Quote from: Wade
Quote
226

Just finished the single shittiest work day in my adult life.  14 hours of pure can go wrong did go wrong bullshit.  At every turn the day got worse, almost comically on some level. 

It occurred to me when I finally got in my truck and began to proceed home.  Not once did I think about the poison.  It never ever crossed my mind for even one fleeting second.  A few months ago, dip would have dominated my every thought on a day like today. 

Now on my drive home that was another story.......................Again as I have said before, my rationale mind thought and knew, dip couldnt possibly do anything to make this shitty day better.  But dammit if my addict mind didnt try to execute its will.  Couldnt help but think over and over how great it would be to have a dip right now.  Oh the blasted addict mind, thank God it is no longer in control of my behavior.  I guess it is good to know and remember that the bitch will still try to sneak in.  Constantly prowling, ready to devour, looking for the smallest chink in our armor to exploit. 

Make a decision, post roll, keep your guard up.  Focus, focus, focus.  It has gotten so much easier.  Newbies, keep the faith.  Learn the program, use the tools.  This can be done.  It is so worth it.
Preach it brother! Keep the fucking faith.
I know I texted this to you but decided to memorialize this of your thread - I believe the solution to this is a new vehicle. You've mentioned several times that your truck is a trigger. The trigger. Trade that Ford in!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 15, 2013, 08:42:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Wade
Quote
226

Just finished the single shittiest work day in my adult life.  14 hours of pure can go wrong did go wrong bullshit.  At every turn the day got worse, almost comically on some level. 

It occurred to me when I finally got in my truck and began to proceed home.  Not once did I think about the poison.  It never ever crossed my mind for even one fleeting second.  A few months ago, dip would have dominated my every thought on a day like today. 

Now on my drive home that was another story.......................Again as I have said before, my rationale mind thought and knew, dip couldnt possibly do anything to make this shitty day better.  But dammit if my addict mind didnt try to execute its will.  Couldnt help but think over and over how great it would be to have a dip right now.  Oh the blasted addict mind, thank God it is no longer in control of my behavior.  I guess it is good to know and remember that the bitch will still try to sneak in.  Constantly prowling, ready to devour, looking for the smallest chink in our armor to exploit. 

Make a decision, post roll, keep your guard up.  Focus, focus, focus.  It has gotten so much easier.  Newbies, keep the faith.  Learn the program, use the tools.  This can be done.  It is so worth it.
Preach it brother! Keep the fucking faith.
I know I texted this to you but decided to memorialize this of your thread - I believe the solution to this is a new vehicle. You've mentioned several times that your truck is a trigger. The trigger. Trade that Ford in!!!!
I here ya worktowin. Drove the last F-150 for 300,000 miles. I just cant let go of the old 2008 yet, it only has 90,000 on it. I drive them until the wheels fall off. And besides I finally scrubbed all of the spilled dip scum out of the carpet and seats. This baby is showroom detailed.

Fuck triggers, I do not "avoid" them anymore, I mow that fuggers right over.

Quit on boys and girls, I am gonna. On the good days and the bad days. UUUUHHMMMM, get some!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on August 15, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Wade
Quote
226

Just finished the single shittiest work day in my adult life.  14 hours of pure can go wrong did go wrong bullshit.  At every turn the day got worse, almost comically on some level. 

It occurred to me when I finally got in my truck and began to proceed home.  Not once did I think about the poison.  It never ever crossed my mind for even one fleeting second.  A few months ago, dip would have dominated my every thought on a day like today. 

Now on my drive home that was another story.......................Again as I have said before, my rationale mind thought and knew, dip couldnt possibly do anything to make this shitty day better.  But dammit if my addict mind didnt try to execute its will.  Couldnt help but think over and over how great it would be to have a dip right now.  Oh the blasted addict mind, thank God it is no longer in control of my behavior.  I guess it is good to know and remember that the bitch will still try to sneak in.  Constantly prowling, ready to devour, looking for the smallest chink in our armor to exploit. 

Make a decision, post roll, keep your guard up.  Focus, focus, focus.  It has gotten so much easier.  Newbies, keep the faith.  Learn the program, use the tools.  This can be done.  It is so worth it.
Preach it brother! Keep the fucking faith.
I know I texted this to you but decided to memorialize this of your thread - I believe the solution to this is a new vehicle. You've mentioned several times that your truck is a trigger. The trigger. Trade that Ford in!!!!
I here ya worktowin. Drove the last F-150 for 300,000 miles. I just cant let go of the old 2008 yet, it only has 90,000 on it. I drive them until the wheels fall off. And besides I finally scrubbed all of the spilled dip scum out of the carpet and seats. This baby is showroom detailed.

Fuck triggers, I do not "avoid" them anymore, I mow that fuggers right over.

Quit on boys and girls, I am gonna. On the good days and the bad days. UUUUHHMMMM, get some!!
Jake Frawley will make you a hell of a deal if you change your mind. After his way too vivid post today of a cave dip dream - where he almost gave me a stroke as I was reading it - I bet we could get him to knock off a few grand more.

Keep up the great work Ryan. The bad days now are still 100x better than the good days in January.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on August 15, 2013, 11:03:00 PM
I like that mow through triggers I am gonna start pushing myself to mow thru triggers. N Jake will get you a deal on a pink avalanche
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 30, 2013, 11:50:00 PM
When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine. Quick book, quick song and bed. So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more. Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs. I no longer have somewhere better to be. I am where I am and that's where I want to be.

I love being quit.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jaynellie on August 30, 2013, 11:57:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine. Quick book, quick song and bed. So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more. Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs. I no longer have somewhere better to be. I am where I am and that where I want to be.

I love being quit.
Awesome Ryan...sometimes the simplest thing become Amazing!!

Eyes wide Open brother...

QLF with you today!!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on August 31, 2013, 09:07:00 AM
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine.  Quick book, quick song and bed.  So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more.  Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs.  I no longer have somewhere better to be.  I am where I am and that where I want to be.

I love being quit.
Awesome Ryan...sometimes the simplest thing become Amazing!!

Eyes wide Open brother...

QLF with you today!!!!
well that one hit home... not that book get the two page book and we are gonna do some speed metal songs and off to bed you go.... proud of you man making the realization. keep quit brother
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on August 31, 2013, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine.  Quick book, quick song and bed.  So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more.  Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs.  I no longer have somewhere better to be.  I am where I am and that where I want to be.

I love being quit.
Awesome Ryan...sometimes the simplest thing become Amazing!!

Eyes wide Open brother...

QLF with you today!!!!
well that one hit home... not that book get the two page book and we are gonna do some speed metal songs and off to bed you go.... proud of you man making the realization. keep quit brother
Good stuff ryan. I'm noticing the same things. I notice i'm not in a hurry as much. I've slowed down,, smelling the roses. Darn glad to be quit with you brother.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on August 31, 2013, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine.  Quick book, quick song and bed.  So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more.  Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs.  I no longer have somewhere better to be.  I am where I am and that where I want to be.

I love being quit.
Awesome Ryan...sometimes the simplest thing become Amazing!!

Eyes wide Open brother...

QLF with you today!!!!
well that one hit home... not that book get the two page book and we are gonna do some speed metal songs and off to bed you go.... proud of you man making the realization. keep quit brother
Good stuff ryan. I'm noticing the same things. I notice i'm not in a hurry as much. I've slowed down,, smelling the roses. Darn glad to be quit with you brother.
absolutely spot on.. the best things in life are free.. time with your child is one of them. We're so blessed to have found the proper path. so proud of you brother.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on September 07, 2013, 03:53:00 PM
Question.

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them? Have they ever tried to quit? Do they want to quit? Do they know what they are doing to themselves? I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen. I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume. A week? A month? Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them. My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days. When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity. They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to. Or at least they think they do. If they only knew the truth. Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings. "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it" Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop. Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard. I just couldn't get it done. Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it. It seemed so hopeless. Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth. I do not want nicotine. I do not need nicotine. This can be done. I am capable. I will not die without nicotine. Just the opposite in fact. I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine. Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better. They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience.

They were so right. I am so glad that I stuck it out. I am so relieved to no longer be a user. Freedom is so much better. I am happy that I understand I am an addict. I have the tools that I need to stay quit. I know I can never have just one. I am grateful for the friends I have made on here. I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time. Your wounds will heal. You will learn how to live again. I will get so much easier. I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SamCat!!! on September 07, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Great meeting you tonight in Chat...I hope to see you back in there soon!!! I went and copied that post for you that I was talking about written by Skoal Monster...Pass this Gem along to everyone...It sure helped me!!!

index.php?showtopic=2628 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2628)

Proud to be Quit with you today!!! Lets repeat tomorrow!!!

:) Sam!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on September 08, 2013, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Question.

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them? Have they ever tried to quit? Do they want to quit? Do they know what they are doing to themselves? I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen. I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume. A week? A month? Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them. My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days. When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity. They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to. Or at least they think they do. If they only knew the truth. Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings. "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it" Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop. Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard. I just couldn't get it done. Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it. It seemed so hopeless. Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth. I do not want nicotine. I do not need nicotine. This can be done. I am capable. I will not die without nicotine. Just the opposite in fact. I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine. Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better. They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience.

They were so right. I am so glad that I stuck it out. I am so relieved to no longer be a user. Freedom is so much better. I am happy that I understand I am an addict. I have the tools that I need to stay quit. I know I can never have just one. I am grateful for the friends I have made on here. I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time. Your wounds will heal. You will learn how to live again. I will get so much easier. I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.
you have a very nice quit going on there buddy. i too wondered about reaching out to those who still use. it's a fine line. i'm sure one of them would tell me to mind my own business. this is why i choose to help people that want help. that's why i'm here. proud to be quit with you! peace
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on September 08, 2013, 08:48:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Question. 

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them?  Have they ever tried to quit?  Do they want to quit?  Do they know what they are doing to themselves?  I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen.  I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume.  A week?  A month?  Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them.  My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days.  When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity.  They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to.  Or at least they think they do.  If they only knew the truth.  Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings.  "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it"  Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop.  Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard.  I just couldn't get it done.  Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it.  It seemed so hopeless.  Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth.  I do not want nicotine.  I do not need nicotine.  This can be done.  I am capable. I will not die without nicotine.  Just the opposite in fact.  I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine.  Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better.  They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience. 

They were so right.  I am so glad that I stuck it out.  I am so relieved to no longer be a user.  Freedom is so much better.  I am happy that I understand I am an addict.  I have the tools that I need to stay quit.  I know I can never have just one.  I am grateful for the friends I have made on here.  I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time.  Your wounds will heal.  You will learn how to live again.  I will get so much easier.  I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.
you have a very nice quit going on there buddy. i too wondered about reaching out to those who still use. it's a fine line. i'm sure one of them would tell me to mind my own business. this is why i choose to help people that want help. that's why i'm here. proud to be quit with you! peace
I hear you kana. I am torn on the subject. On one hand, I wish someone had told me years ago. On the other hand, even if they had I probably would have told them to fuck off. I think the quitter has to be ready to some degree. Deep down inside, they know. Even the most casual of users know.

I remember being 16 and being pissed at myself for buying another can. I knew what I was wrestling with. I would throw a nearly full can out the window of my 1985 Mustang GT, and swear that I was done for good. Only to drive back there the next day and be searching for it. Pathetic. Down right pathetic. To have been a slave for decades. Thank God I have found freedom from it. Now, I can only hope and pray that I have not killed myself. Only time will tell. It will be a decade before my risk of cancer approaches that of a non-user.

I cannot change the past. There is no use in dwelling on it. Time to move forward and embrace this new found freedom. I will focus only on what I can control. I can only control only the here and now. Today I choose quit.

By the way Kana, congrats on 400, you are the man. You have been on my intro page since my day 1, and for that I am grateful. Thanks for taking the time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on September 08, 2013, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Question. 

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them?  Have they ever tried to quit?  Do they want to quit?  Do they know what they are doing to themselves?  I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen.  I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume.  A week?  A month?  Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them.  My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days.  When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity.  They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to.  Or at least they think they do.  If they only knew the truth.  Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings.  "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it"  Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop.  Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard.  I just couldn't get it done.  Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it.  It seemed so hopeless.  Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth.  I do not want nicotine.  I do not need nicotine.  This can be done.  I am capable. I will not die without nicotine.  Just the opposite in fact.  I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine.  Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better.  They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience. 

They were so right.  I am so glad that I stuck it out.  I am so relieved to no longer be a user.  Freedom is so much better.  I am happy that I understand I am an addict.  I have the tools that I need to stay quit.  I know I can never have just one.  I am grateful for the friends I have made on here.  I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time.  Your wounds will heal.  You will learn how to live again.  I will get so much easier.  I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.
you have a very nice quit going on there buddy. i too wondered about reaching out to those who still use. it's a fine line. i'm sure one of them would tell me to mind my own business. this is why i choose to help people that want help. that's why i'm here. proud to be quit with you! peace
I hear you kana. I am torn on the subject. On one hand, I wish someone had told me years ago. On the other hand, even if they had I probably would have told them to fuck off. I think the quitter has to be ready to some degree. Deep down inside, they know. Even the most casual of users know.

I remember being 16 and being pissed at myself for buying another can. I knew what I was wrestling with. I would throw a nearly full can out the window of my 1985 Mustang GT, and swear that I was done for good. Only to drive back there the next day and be searching for it. Pathetic. Down right pathetic. To have been a slave for decades. Thank God I have found freedom from it. Now, I can only hope and pray that I have not killed myself. Only time will tell. It will be a decade before my risk of cancer approaches that of a non-user.

I cannot change the past. There is no use in dwelling on it. Time to move forward and embrace this new found freedom. I will focus only on what I can control. I can only control only the here and now. Today I choose quit.

By the way Kana, congrats on 400, you are the man. You have been on my intro page since my day 1, and for that I am grateful. Thanks for taking the time.
approach them the worst they can do is tell you fuck off. I tried telling a guy I work with about the site when he was trying to cut back he was like I will just cut back. cant save everyone. I find it easier to work here with guys who come here atleast they have taken the first step.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on September 08, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Question. 

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them?  Have they ever tried to quit?  Do they want to quit?  Do they know what they are doing to themselves?  I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen.  I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume.  A week?  A month?  Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them.  My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days.  When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity.  They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to.  Or at least they think they do.  If they only knew the truth.  Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings.  "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it"  Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop.  Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard.  I just couldn't get it done.  Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it.  It seemed so hopeless.  Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth.  I do not want nicotine.  I do not need nicotine.  This can be done.  I am capable. I will not die without nicotine.  Just the opposite in fact.  I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine.  Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better.  They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience. 

They were so right.  I am so glad that I stuck it out.  I am so relieved to no longer be a user.  Freedom is so much better.  I am happy that I understand I am an addict.  I have the tools that I need to stay quit.  I know I can never have just one.  I am grateful for the friends I have made on here.  I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time.  Your wounds will heal.  You will learn how to live again.  I will get so much easier.  I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.
you have a very nice quit going on there buddy. i too wondered about reaching out to those who still use. it's a fine line. i'm sure one of them would tell me to mind my own business. this is why i choose to help people that want help. that's why i'm here. proud to be quit with you! peace
I hear you kana. I am torn on the subject. On one hand, I wish someone had told me years ago. On the other hand, even if they had I probably would have told them to fuck off. I think the quitter has to be ready to some degree. Deep down inside, they know. Even the most casual of users know.

I remember being 16 and being pissed at myself for buying another can. I knew what I was wrestling with. I would throw a nearly full can out the window of my 1985 Mustang GT, and swear that I was done for good. Only to drive back there the next day and be searching for it. Pathetic. Down right pathetic. To have been a slave for decades. Thank God I have found freedom from it. Now, I can only hope and pray that I have not killed myself. Only time will tell. It will be a decade before my risk of cancer approaches that of a non-user.

I cannot change the past. There is no use in dwelling on it. Time to move forward and embrace this new found freedom. I will focus only on what I can control. I can only control only the here and now. Today I choose quit.

By the way Kana, congrats on 400, you are the man. You have been on my intro page since my day 1, and for that I am grateful. Thanks for taking the time.
approach them the worst they can do is tell you fuck off. I tried telling a guy I work with about the site when he was trying to cut back he was like I will just cut back. cant save everyone. I find it easier to work here with guys who come here atleast they have taken the first step.
Remember my airplane story? I talked for an hour and a half to the guy suiting next to me on a flight to Denver. A young lawyer, maybe 28. He reminded me of me 13 years ago. When the cabin doors opened, he got off that plane faster than a concorde takeoff. I don't blame him, I would have done that same thing at 28. But it did make me feel better.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 12, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
What a great day to be quit. 282 I think?

Last week I took my first hunting trip without the poison. The car ride played some mind games on me, but I used the tools. I chatted with quitters almost all the way from Detroit, MI to Madison, IN. Once I got there I went into hunt mode. Guess what? You can shoot a bow without dip, you can put up tree stands without dip, you can kill deer without dip. How could I have been so worried about a real non issue. What a dumb ass. I stressed about that trip for weeks. Had a terrible dip dream the night before I left. Oh well, now I know. Hunting had nothing to do with dip. NOTHING!!

Gorgeous fall day here in southern Michigan. Spent the day at the cider mill with wife and kids. Tractor ride, fall colors, apple cider, donuts, picking pumpkins, etc. Not once did I think about dip. Not once. It is amazing that our bodies and minds can really heal over time.

I remember avoiding this outing in the past. I would instead choose to sit home and dip by myself and let my wife take the kids without me. I was "too busy". House work, yard work, whatever the excuse of the day was. What a shit head I was, I had no idea what I was missing.

New quitters, you may not see it yet, but quitting can be done. And it is so worth it. It will get easier. You have to fight through it. Quit today, focus on today. One day at a time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on October 13, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
What a great day to be quit. 282 I think?

Last week I took my first hunting trip without the poison. The car ride played some mind games on me, but I used the tools. I chatted with quitters almost all the way from Detroit, MI to Madison, IN. Once I got there I went into hunt mode. Guess what? You can shoot a bow without dip, you can put up tree stands without dip, you can kill deer without dip. How could I have been so worried about a real non issue. What a dumb ass. I stressed about that trip for weeks. Had a terrible dip dream the night before I left. Oh well, now I know. Hunting had nothing to do with dip. NOTHING!!

Gorgeous fall day here in southern Michigan. Spent the day at the cider mill with wife and kids. Tractor ride, fall colors, apple cider, donuts, picking pumpkins, etc. Not once did I think about dip. Not once. It is amazing that our bodies and minds can really heal over time.

I remember avoiding this outing in the past. I would instead choose to sit home and dip by myself and let my wife take the kids without me. I was "too busy". House work, yard work, whatever the excuse of the day was. What a shit head I was, I had no idea what I was missing.

New quitters, you may not see it yet, but quitting can be done. And it is so worth it. It will get easier. You have to fight through it. Quit today, focus on today. One day at a time.
Had anyone told us, and they did, 282 days ago how we would feel and how much better life would be now, we wouldn't have believed them. We didn't believe them.

Now we are the ones that are laughing. Enjoy the cider! Proud to be quit with you again today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: KC_Guy on October 13, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
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Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
What a great day to be quit.  282 I think? 

Last week I took my first hunting trip without the poison.  The car ride played some mind games on me, but I used the tools.  I chatted with quitters almost all the way from Detroit, MI to Madison, IN.  Once I got there I went into hunt mode.  Guess what?  You can shoot a bow without dip, you can put up tree stands without dip, you can kill deer without dip.  How could I have been so worried about a real non issue.  What a dumb ass.  I stressed about that trip for weeks.  Had a terrible dip dream the night before I left.  Oh well, now I know.  Hunting had nothing to do with dip. NOTHING!!

Gorgeous fall day here in southern Michigan.  Spent the day at the cider mill with wife and kids.  Tractor ride, fall colors, apple cider, donuts, picking pumpkins, etc.  Not once did I think about dip.  Not once.  It is amazing that our bodies and minds can really heal over time. 

I remember avoiding this outing in the past.  I would instead choose to sit home and dip by myself and let my wife take the kids without me.  I was "too busy".  House work, yard work, whatever the excuse of the day was.  What a shit head I was, I had no idea what I was missing. 

New quitters, you may not see it yet, but quitting can be done.  And it is so worth it.  It will get easier.  You have to fight through it.  Quit today, focus on today.  One day at a time.
Had anyone told us, and they did, 282 days ago how we would feel and how much better life would be now, we wouldn't have believed them. We didn't believe them.

Now we are the ones that are laughing. Enjoy the cider! Proud to be quit with you again today.
So this is what it means to quit in "beast mode". Thank you for sharing your hunting story. We can do so many things without dip. I continue to quit each day for myself. And bad ass vets like you help make it easier. Quit on brother.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on October 14, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
What a great day to be quit.   282 I think? 

Last week I took my first hunting trip without the poison.  The car ride played some mind games on me, but I used the tools.  I chatted with quitters almost all the way from Detroit, MI to Madison, IN.  Once I got there I went into hunt mode.  Guess what?   You can shoot a bow without dip, you can put up tree stands without dip, you can kill deer without dip.  How could I have been so worried about a real non issue.  What a dumb ass.  I stressed about that trip for weeks.  Had a terrible dip dream the night before I left.  Oh well, now I know.  Hunting had nothing to do with dip. NOTHING!!

Gorgeous fall day here in southern Michigan.  Spent the day at the cider mill with wife and kids.  Tractor ride, fall colors, apple cider, donuts, picking pumpkins, etc.  Not once did I think about dip.  Not once.  It is amazing that our bodies and minds can really heal over time. 

I remember avoiding this outing in the past.  I would instead choose to sit home and dip by myself and let my wife take the kids without me.  I was "too busy".  House work, yard work, whatever the excuse of the day was.  What a shit head I was, I had no idea what I was missing. 

New quitters, you may not see it yet, but quitting can be done.  And it is so worth it.  It will get easier.  You have to fight through it.  Quit today, focus on today.  One day at a time.
Had anyone told us, and they did, 282 days ago how we would feel and how much better life would be now, we wouldn't have believed them. We didn't believe them.

Now we are the ones that are laughing. Enjoy the cider! Proud to be quit with you again today.
So this is what it means to quit in "beast mode". Thank you for sharing your hunting story. We can do so many things without dip. I continue to quit each day for myself. And bad ass vets like you help make it easier. Quit on brother.
Glad you are enjoying your hard fought freedom! I have been trusting you that things get better from the beginning of my quit so don't stop telling the newbs how good it will get if you just fight through.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on October 14, 2013, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
What a great day to be quit.   282 I think? 

Last week I took my first hunting trip without the poison.  The car ride played some mind games on me, but I used the tools.  I chatted with quitters almost all the way from Detroit, MI to Madison, IN.  Once I got there I went into hunt mode.  Guess what?   You can shoot a bow without dip, you can put up tree stands without dip, you can kill deer without dip.  How could I have been so worried about a real non issue.  What a dumb ass.  I stressed about that trip for weeks.  Had a terrible dip dream the night before I left.  Oh well, now I know.  Hunting had nothing to do with dip. NOTHING!!

Gorgeous fall day here in southern Michigan.  Spent the day at the cider mill with wife and kids.  Tractor ride, fall colors, apple cider, donuts, picking pumpkins, etc.  Not once did I think about dip.  Not once.  It is amazing that our bodies and minds can really heal over time. 

I remember avoiding this outing in the past.  I would instead choose to sit home and dip by myself and let my wife take the kids without me.  I was "too busy".  House work, yard work, whatever the excuse of the day was.  What a shit head I was, I had no idea what I was missing. 

New quitters, you may not see it yet, but quitting can be done.  And it is so worth it.  It will get easier.  You have to fight through it.  Quit today, focus on today.  One day at a time.
Had anyone told us, and they did, 282 days ago how we would feel and how much better life would be now, we wouldn't have believed them. We didn't believe them.

Now we are the ones that are laughing. Enjoy the cider! Proud to be quit with you again today.
So this is what it means to quit in "beast mode". Thank you for sharing your hunting story. We can do so many things without dip. I continue to quit each day for myself. And bad ass vets like you help make it easier. Quit on brother.
Glad you are enjoying your hard fought freedom! I have been trusting you that things get better from the beginning of my quit so don't stop telling the newbs how good it will get if you just fight through.
I will be right be hind you. I am going to go into the blind soon and dispel all the beliefs that she has put in my melon that I need her to be good at what I am doing. I just have to focus on my technique concentrate on the kill zone and let my arrow go...

Thanks for sharing the hunt lets us know we can do it too.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 27, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days. I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on October 27, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.  I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one". 

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Erussell on October 27, 2013, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.  I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one". 

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on October 28, 2013, 05:01:00 AM
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.  I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one". 

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 28, 2013, 08:23:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.� I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".�

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
I guess you're right ER. But I can't post what I can't remember. That fog was thick boy, you remember it? I do.

298?

299?

300?

However the hell we want to count it I don't give a shit. From the day I found the site I have been 100% nic free. The only day that matters to me now is today.

I got a few texts that said I was lying all this time, etc. My apologies if I offended anyone with post or may "inaccurate" day count. From here on out its a plus one.

The point of the post, don't forget where you came from, and don't forget what got you here. The day that I forget I am an addict, I am in danger of failure. That goes for day 300 or 3000.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 28, 2013, 08:47:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.� I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".�

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
I guess you're right ER. But I can't post what I can't remember. That fog was thick boy, you remember it? I do.

298?

299?

300?

However the hell we want to count it I don't give a shit. From the day I found the site I have been 100% nic free. The only day that matters to me now is today.

I got a few texts that said I was lying all this time, etc. My apologies if I offended anyone with post or may "inaccurate" day count. From here on out its a plus one.

The point of the post, don't forget where you came from, and don't forget what got you here. The day that I forget I am an addict, I am in danger of failure. That goes for day 300 or 3000.
And thanks a lot Worktowin. I think you get it.

I guess back at the time I didn't "fix the count", because I was in denial about admitting that I was a pathetic junkie. I don't know exactly when, but something changed. And now I font mind at all. Again, my apologies to anyone offended. Please understand it was not well thought out or premeditated. I only ever thought about twice. Around 200, and now at 300.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on October 28, 2013, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.� I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".�

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
I guess you're right ER. But I can't post what I can't remember. That fog was thick boy, you remember it? I do.

298?

299?

300?

However the hell we want to count it I don't give a shit. From the day I found the site I have been 100% nic free. The only day that matters to me now is today.

I got a few texts that said I was lying all this time, etc. My apologies if I offended anyone with post or may "inaccurate" day count. From here on out its a plus one.

The point of the post, don't forget where you came from, and don't forget what got you here. The day that I forget I am an addict, I am in danger of failure. That goes for day 300 or 3000.
And thanks a lot Worktowin. I think you get it.

I guess back at the time I didn't "fix the count", because I was in denial about admitting that I was a pathetic junkie. I don't know exactly when, but something changed. And now I font mind at all. Again, my apologies to anyone offended. Please understand it was not well thought out or premeditated. I only ever thought about twice. Around 200, and now at 300.
Ryan,, Enough said bro!! I read this last night and didn't lose no sleep. Those first 3 days will make a person do some pretty stupid things. Day 300 can make you do some pretty amazing things.. Another reason to never go back. I'm quit with you today....
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Spartanron on October 28, 2013, 11:03:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.� I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".�

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
I guess you're right ER. But I can't post what I can't remember. That fog was thick boy, you remember it? I do.

298?

299?

300?

However the hell we want to count it I don't give a shit. From the day I found the site I have been 100% nic free. The only day that matters to me now is today.

I got a few texts that said I was lying all this time, etc. My apologies if I offended anyone with post or may "inaccurate" day count. From here on out its a plus one.

The point of the post, don't forget where you came from, and don't forget what got you here. The day that I forget I am an addict, I am in danger of failure. That goes for day 300 or 3000.
And thanks a lot Worktowin. I think you get it.

I guess back at the time I didn't "fix the count", because I was in denial about admitting that I was a pathetic junkie. I don't know exactly when, but something changed. And now I font mind at all. Again, my apologies to anyone offended. Please understand it was not well thought out or premeditated. I only ever thought about twice. Around 200, and now at 300.
Ryan,, Enough said bro!! I read this last night and didn't lose no sleep. Those first 3 days will make a person do some pretty stupid things. Day 300 can make you do some pretty amazing things.. Another reason to never go back. I'm quit with you today....
please don't be a plus one-er
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: rickddd on October 28, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Congrats on 300 Ryan! Proud to be part of your group and quit with you.

Rick
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Grizzfall on October 28, 2013, 11:37:00 PM
Got2,
Three hundred days sounds awesome but i dont think that is your real number. You see, your quit has snowballed. Yours enabled mine, so that is at least 324. Now i know im not your only project so lets say conservatively you've helped 10 others. They likely average around 50 days each, again, a conservative estimate. That brings the total up to 800+. Now we have something, but it goes on. Those folks you have aided have done the same for other newbies. They are only worth 1/2 credit but their numbers grew exponetially. And what happens when that third generation makes a forth?
The point is your single decision to quit has effected an infinite number of people. Im proud to be one of them.
Thanks,
Grizzfall.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Morgan1 on October 29, 2013, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.� I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".�

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
I guess you're right ER. But I can't post what I can't remember. That fog was thick boy, you remember it? I do.

298?

299?

300?

However the hell we want to count it I don't give a shit. From the day I found the site I have been 100% nic free. The only day that matters to me now is today.

I got a few texts that said I was lying all this time, etc. My apologies if I offended anyone with post or may "inaccurate" day count. From here on out its a plus one.

The point of the post, don't forget where you came from, and don't forget what got you here. The day that I forget I am an addict, I am in danger of failure. That goes for day 300 or 3000.
And thanks a lot Worktowin. I think you get it.

I guess back at the time I didn't "fix the count", because I was in denial about admitting that I was a pathetic junkie. I don't know exactly when, but something changed. And now I font mind at all. Again, my apologies to anyone offended. Please understand it was not well thought out or premeditated. I only ever thought about twice. Around 200, and now at 300.
Ryan,, Enough said bro!! I read this last night and didn't lose no sleep. Those first 3 days will make a person do some pretty stupid things. Day 300 can make you do some pretty amazing things.. Another reason to never go back. I'm quit with you today....
please don't be a plus one-er
Whatever you did prior to posting on KTC is irrelevant as far as "caving". There was no cave involved whatsoever because you weren't here. I don't give a shit what anyone did prior to posting Day One here. However, I believe you should be posting whatever day it is from the day you joined KTC though so sounds like you're doing the right thing. Quit with you everyday bro. Gives you a milestone to look forward to tomorrow.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 29, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.� I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".�

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
I guess you're right ER. But I can't post what I can't remember. That fog was thick boy, you remember it? I do.

298?

299?

300?

However the hell we want to count it I don't give a shit. From the day I found the site I have been 100% nic free. The only day that matters to me now is today.

I got a few texts that said I was lying all this time, etc. My apologies if I offended anyone with post or may "inaccurate" day count. From here on out its a plus one.

The point of the post, don't forget where you came from, and don't forget what got you here. The day that I forget I am an addict, I am in danger of failure. That goes for day 300 or 3000.
And thanks a lot Worktowin. I think you get it.

I guess back at the time I didn't "fix the count", because I was in denial about admitting that I was a pathetic junkie. I don't know exactly when, but something changed. And now I font mind at all. Again, my apologies to anyone offended. Please understand it was not well thought out or premeditated. I only ever thought about twice. Around 200, and now at 300.
Ryan,, Enough said bro!! I read this last night and didn't lose no sleep. Those first 3 days will make a person do some pretty stupid things. Day 300 can make you do some pretty amazing things.. Another reason to never go back. I'm quit with you today....
please don't be a plus one-er
Whatever you did prior to posting on KTC is irrelevant as far as "caving". There was no cave involved whatsoever because you weren't here. I don't give a shit what anyone did prior to posting Day One here. However, I believe you should be posting whatever day it is from the day you joined KTC though so sounds like you're doing the right thing. Quit with you everyday bro. Gives you a milestone to look forward to tomorrow.
Thanks Morgan1. I think you hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Spartanron on October 30, 2013, 02:38:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.� I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".�

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
I guess you're right ER. But I can't post what I can't remember. That fog was thick boy, you remember it? I do.

298?

299?

300?

However the hell we want to count it I don't give a shit. From the day I found the site I have been 100% nic free. The only day that matters to me now is today.

I got a few texts that said I was lying all this time, etc. My apologies if I offended anyone with post or may "inaccurate" day count. From here on out its a plus one.

The point of the post, don't forget where you came from, and don't forget what got you here. The day that I forget I am an addict, I am in danger of failure. That goes for day 300 or 3000.
And thanks a lot Worktowin. I think you get it.

I guess back at the time I didn't "fix the count", because I was in denial about admitting that I was a pathetic junkie. I don't know exactly when, but something changed. And now I font mind at all. Again, my apologies to anyone offended. Please understand it was not well thought out or premeditated. I only ever thought about twice. Around 200, and now at 300.
Ryan,, Enough said bro!! I read this last night and didn't lose no sleep. Those first 3 days will make a person do some pretty stupid things. Day 300 can make you do some pretty amazing things.. Another reason to never go back. I'm quit with you today....
please don't be a plus one-er
Whatever you did prior to posting on KTC is irrelevant as far as "caving". There was no cave involved whatsoever because you weren't here. I don't give a shit what anyone did prior to posting Day One here. However, I believe you should be posting whatever day it is from the day you joined KTC though so sounds like you're doing the right thing. Quit with you everyday bro. Gives you a milestone to look forward to tomorrow.
Thanks Morgan1. I think you hit the nail on the head.
I think rooting through the trash for a re used chew is a much more powerfull anniversary reminder than a new years quit. Every year you are quit you can reflect on that and be proud of how far you have come.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on October 30, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: spartanron
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Thanks for all the congratulations on 300. The truth is it will have wait a few days.� I did indeed kill the can 300 days ago. Dumped 2 full cans in the toilet after a NY Eve party. But here is why I can't celebrate today. Somewhere in the dense fog of day 2 or 3, ( can't remember), I went through the garbage can in my garage and put in an already dipped megawad of grizzly wintergreen for ride to work. Not proud. It was a real low for me. There is no doubt in my mind that I am an addict. I found KTC the next day and everything changed. I had forgotten about that whole wretched episode until several months later. I will adjust that day count from here on out.

IG2H QFT day 298, and like ole LOOT taught me, "never forget day one".�

I will never forget what nicotine did to me, and what I did to myself with nicotine.

NAFAR

Ryan
Answer the 3 questions!!!!

Just kidding, Ryan. I actually had to kinda laugh at this one. It is pathetic what we did, but it is amazing what we have done. Be it today or in 2 more... Welcome to 3. You pulled and pushed me through the fog, and without you I don't believe I would have made it.

After today I won't bring up the dumpster dive again! Proud of you, and quit with you.

--worktowin
Well,,,,,, you could have,,,, should have,,,, changed the days many days ago, some would say. I say your a bad ass that has earned the stripes as such. I f-Ed up my number of days for several months while back until a fellow quitter called my hand on it. Congrats either way and thanks for the support you've shown me. I quit with you. Erussell day 181.
Paradigm dawg has a timeline of how his quit has progressed - I think we can advance the timeline to... 300 - honesty with ourselves and others as to the extent of our addiction. I sent you this in a text but I'll also post here - it took me 300 days to tell my wife, who I would take a bullet for with no hesitation, the extent of my addiction. I understand completely, and am just relieved that your moment of weakness didn't throw that whole train off the tracks. Because you've helped pull a lot of us up on the hall of fame train and beyond. I quit with you again today, and view this as another healing milestone from an honorable man battling a wicked addiction.

Happy 299 today.
I guess you're right ER. But I can't post what I can't remember. That fog was thick boy, you remember it? I do.

298?

299?

300?

However the hell we want to count it I don't give a shit. From the day I found the site I have been 100% nic free. The only day that matters to me now is today.

I got a few texts that said I was lying all this time, etc. My apologies if I offended anyone with post or may "inaccurate" day count. From here on out its a plus one.

The point of the post, don't forget where you came from, and don't forget what got you here. The day that I forget I am an addict, I am in danger of failure. That goes for day 300 or 3000.
And thanks a lot Worktowin. I think you get it.

I guess back at the time I didn't "fix the count", because I was in denial about admitting that I was a pathetic junkie. I don't know exactly when, but something changed. And now I font mind at all. Again, my apologies to anyone offended. Please understand it was not well thought out or premeditated. I only ever thought about twice. Around 200, and now at 300.
Ryan,, Enough said bro!! I read this last night and didn't lose no sleep. Those first 3 days will make a person do some pretty stupid things. Day 300 can make you do some pretty amazing things.. Another reason to never go back. I'm quit with you today....
please don't be a plus one-er
Whatever you did prior to posting on KTC is irrelevant as far as "caving". There was no cave involved whatsoever because you weren't here. I don't give a shit what anyone did prior to posting Day One here. However, I believe you should be posting whatever day it is from the day you joined KTC though so sounds like you're doing the right thing. Quit with you everyday bro. Gives you a milestone to look forward to tomorrow.
Thanks Morgan1. I think you hit the nail on the head.
I think rooting through the trash for a re used chew is a much more powerfull anniversary reminder than a new years quit. Every year you are quit you can reflect on that and be proud of how far you have come.
The past can't be changed but today sets the stage for tomorrow! Quit today and if I make it to tomorrow, I'll repeat for success.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 31, 2013, 05:07:00 AM
301 today and feeling pretty accomplished.

I am now one month into the archery deer season and am getting by fine without dip. So many of my other quit attempts were foiled when deer season came around. The addict logic in my head would always say, "screw it, you can always quit after hunting season is over". Well in my neck of the woods hunting starts in Sept and goes until Jan 1st. A quarter of the year.

First trip was about 6 hours south in Southern IN. I tortured myself mentally for weeks before the trip about how hard it was going to be. The solo car ride was a challenge but I conquered it easily thanks to some chatty quitters. I was somewhat troubled because I still had this nagging feeling that I wanted dip and I was missing out on something by abstaining from it. I know better, but that is how I felt. I didnt get an opportunity at a worthy buck but I did shoot a good looking 2 1/2 year old doe for the owner of my lease.

Second trip was just a short one to deer lease in Battlecreek, MI. I was worried about this one primarily because all of my lease partners are firefighters and they all chew crazy amounts of dip just like I used to. I am new to the lease and not particularly close to any of them but, this was set to be my first time around a huge crowd of users. Well that one turned out fine also, although I stayed quite solo and really had minimal contact with the dippers except one trip to local diner after the hunt. One guy flipped me his tin of Grizzly because he recalled I used the same brand. I slid it back across the table and simply said I dont do that shit anymore. He had a shocked and surprised look on his face as he said, "Yeah, I need to quit too". I told him to check out KTC and call me if he has any questions.

I returned home last night from a 3rd trip. This was an 11th annual camping trip to a little property near Jonesville, MI that I share with 2 very close friends. One of them happens to be a big time dipper. I am not proud of the fact that I really introduced him to this foul addiction 11 years when we started hunting together. He was just a once in a while kind of user prior to meeting me. I dont really know why, but it is this trip that I was losing sleep over. Outside of hunting season we dont talk very frequently but I did tell him over the summer that I had quit. His response was "yeah OK, we will see how long that one lasts". Well the first night after the hunt I learned some incredible news. Sitting around a bonfire having a few beers I noticed he was not packing his usual lip full. It turns our that he decided to quit dipping also about a month ago. He said screw it, if Ryan can do it, I can do it. He said he was also worried about hunt camp and how his use might influence me. No KTC, no NRT, no wellbutrin. He just dumped it and said done. I am so damn happy and proud of this guy. Also a bit jealous that it seemed so easy for him.

The rest of the weekend was amazing. I didnt see many bucks but was able to get an arrow into two fine looking does for the freezer. This October has been monumental in my quit. I am doing something without dip that my addict brain has always told me I couldnt do. Even as I started going thru the motions of hunting and preparation, my addict brain was tellling me, you may be able to do it, but you wont enjoy it as much. Addiction is a bitch, she still tries to lie and lure. Thanks to this site, her efforts are now futile. As far not enjoying it as much, completely false, I am having the greatest hunting season I have ever had. The freedom of being quit is allowing me to notice things I have never noticed. To see things I have never seen. To smell things I have never smelled. Just to be out there and experience nature without the influence of nicotine. It seemed like all things were new again. I know now that experiencing and enjoying the outdoors has NOTHING to do with dipping. It never did.

Time heals all wounds as they say. For the last 3 months I had myself psyched out because of was fearful about how badly I was going to "want it". Well my little epiphany was completed when my newly quit friend reclined in the camp chair and put his feet up after a long day of deer hunting and said, "damn a dip sounds great right no doesn't it?" After a brief silence, I said "fuck no it doesn't, I would rather suck on a cat turd and drink skunk piss than have a dip right now". It was probably the first time in 300 days that no single part of me, not one once of my mind or body, craved or reminised or anything remoted related.

If you are just starting out in this quit, stick around, it gets so much better. If you are a hunter, be safe out there, and don't spit in my woods, that shit is nasty.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Erussell on October 31, 2013, 07:29:00 AM
Ryan,
Thanks for sharing. We all have something like hunting that our addict brain tells us the dip makes us perform better and or that the experience will be diminished without the joy of having dip in. Mine happens to be hunting as well. A friend of mine who was still on the shit asked me, "how are you going to shoot a deer without a dip in", I replied easily, "without the worry of spitting and putting it in and out I eliminate a lot of unwanted scent and movement". I have found this deer season to be the most enjoyable yet. Congrats on 300 your a bad ass! Quit with you Bro. Erussell day 185
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Dougie on October 31, 2013, 08:47:00 AM
Quote from: Erussell
Ryan,
Thanks for sharing. We all have something like hunting that our addict brain tells us the dip makes us perform better and or that the experience will be diminished without the joy of having dip in. Mine happens to be hunting as well. A friend of mine who was still on the shit asked me, "how are you going to shoot a deer without a dip in", I replied easily, "without the worry of spitting and putting it in and out I eliminate a lot of unwanted scent and movement". I have found this deer season to be the most enjoyable yet. Congrats on 300 your a bad ass! Quit with you Bro. Erussell day 185
Great job on 300+ days IGH! Keep on kicking ass and if you need to get rid of any of those loins I am just a short drive away (NE Iowa)!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on November 01, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
Quote from: Dougie
Quote from: Erussell
Ryan,
Thanks for sharing. We all have something like hunting that our addict brain tells us the dip makes us perform better and or that the experience will be diminished without the joy of having dip in. Mine happens to be hunting as well. A friend of mine who was still on the shit asked me, "how are you going to shoot a deer without a dip in", I replied easily, "without the worry of spitting and putting it in and out I eliminate a lot of unwanted scent and movement". I have found this deer season to be the most enjoyable yet. Congrats on 300 your a bad ass! Quit with you Bro. Erussell day 185
Great job on 300+ days IGH! Keep on kicking ass and if you need to get rid of any of those loins I am just a short drive away (NE Iowa)!
Thx guys. Hey Doug. I would love to hunt in Iowa. PM me if you have any hook ups. I will put in for my next year's tags ASAP.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Sage on November 01, 2013, 11:38:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Dougie
Quote from: Erussell
Ryan,
Thanks for sharing. We all have something like hunting that our addict brain tells us the dip makes us perform better and or that the experience will be diminished without the joy of having dip in. Mine happens to be hunting as well. A friend of mine who was still on the shit asked me, "how are you going to shoot a deer without a dip in", I replied easily, "without the worry of spitting and putting it in and out I eliminate a lot of unwanted scent and movement". I have found this deer season to be the most enjoyable yet. Congrats on 300 your a bad ass! Quit with you Bro. Erussell day 185
Great job on 300+ days IGH! Keep on kicking ass and if you need to get rid of any of those loins I am just a short drive away (NE Iowa)!
Thx guys. Hey Doug. I would love to hunt in Iowa. PM me if you have any hook ups. I will put in for my next year's tags ASAP.
Geez, Ryan, brought a tear to my eye. So proud to be quit with you my brother!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on November 02, 2013, 06:27:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
301 today and feeling pretty accomplished.

I am now one month into the archery deer season and am getting by fine without dip. So many of my other quit attempts were foiled when deer season came around. The addict logic in my head would always say, "screw it, you can always quit after hunting season is over". Well in my neck of the woods hunting starts in Sept and goes until Jan 1st. A quarter of the year.

First trip was about 6 hours south in Southern IN. I tortured myself mentally for weeks before the trip about how hard it was going to be. The solo car ride was a challenge but I conquered it easily thanks to some chatty quitters. I was somewhat troubled because I still had this nagging feeling that I wanted dip and I was missing out on something by abstaining from it. I know better, but that is how I felt. I didnt get an opportunity at a worthy buck but I did shoot a good looking 2 1/2 year old doe for the owner of my lease.

Second trip was just a short one to deer lease in Battlecreek, MI. I was worried about this one primarily because all of my lease partners are firefighters and they all chew crazy amounts of dip just like I used to. I am new to the lease and not particularly close to any of them but, this was set to be my first time around a huge crowd of users. Well that one turned out fine also, although I stayed quite solo and really had minimal contact with the dippers except one trip to local diner after the hunt. One guy flipped me his tin of Grizzly because he recalled I used the same brand. I slid it back across the table and simply said I dont do that shit anymore. He had a shocked and surprised look on his face as he said, "Yeah, I need to quit too". I told him to check out KTC and call me if he has any questions.

I returned home last night from a 3rd trip. This was an 11th annual camping trip to a little property near Jonesville, MI that I share with 2 very close friends. One of them happens to be a big time dipper. I am not proud of the fact that I really introduced him to this foul addiction 11 years when we started hunting together. He was just a once in a while kind of user prior to meeting me. I dont really know why, but it is this trip that I was losing sleep over. Outside of hunting season we dont talk very frequently but I did tell him over the summer that I had quit. His response was "yeah OK, we will see how long that one lasts". Well the first night after the hunt I learned some incredible news. Sitting around a bonfire having a few beers I noticed he was not packing his usual lip full. It turns our that he decided to quit dipping also about a month ago. He said screw it, if Ryan can do it, I can do it. He said he was also worried about hunt camp and how his use might influence me. No KTC, no NRT, no wellbutrin. He just dumped it and said done. I am so damn happy and proud of this guy. Also a bit jealous that it seemed so easy for him.

The rest of the weekend was amazing. I didnt see many bucks but was able to get an arrow into two fine looking does for the freezer. This October has been monumental in my quit. I am doing something without dip that my addict brain has always told me I couldnt do. Even as I started going thru the motions of hunting and preparation, my addict brain was tellling me, you may be able to do it, but you wont enjoy it as much. Addiction is a bitch, she still tries to lie and lure. Thanks to this site, her efforts are now futile. As far not enjoying it as much, completely false, I am having the greatest hunting season I have ever had. The freedom of being quit is allowing me to notice things I have never noticed. To see things I have never seen. To smell things I have never smelled. Just to be out there and experience nature without the influence of nicotine. It seemed like all things were new again. I know now that experiencing and enjoying the outdoors has NOTHING to do with dipping. It never did.

Time heals all wounds as they say. For the last 3 months I had myself psyched out because of was fearful about how badly I was going to "want it". Well my little epiphany was completed when my newly quit friend reclined in the camp chair and put his feet up after a long day of deer hunting and said, "damn a dip sounds great right no doesn't it?" After a brief silence, I said "fuck no it doesn't, I would rather suck on a cat turd and drink skunk piss than have a dip right now". It was probably the first time in 300 days that no single part of me, not one once of my mind or body, craved or reminised or anything remoted related.

If you are just starting out in this quit, stick around, it gets so much better. If you are a hunter, be safe out there, and don't spit in my woods, that shit is nasty.

Ryan
Thanks Sage. And thanks for being there during the bad times. I am glad that you stuck around. I have a feeling we will be posting comma together a couple years from now.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on November 02, 2013, 07:11:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
301 today and feeling pretty accomplished.

I am now one month into the archery deer season and am getting by fine without dip. So many of my other quit attempts were foiled when deer season came around. The addict logic in my head would always say, "screw it, you can always quit after hunting season is over". Well in my neck of the woods hunting starts in Sept and goes until Jan 1st. A quarter of the year.

First trip was about 6 hours south in Southern IN. I tortured myself mentally for weeks before the trip about how hard it was going to be. The solo car ride was a challenge but I conquered it easily thanks to some chatty quitters. I was somewhat troubled because I still had this nagging feeling that I wanted dip and I was missing out on something by abstaining from it. I know better, but that is how I felt. I didnt get an opportunity at a worthy buck but I did shoot a good looking 2 1/2 year old doe for the owner of my lease.

Second trip was just a short one to deer lease in Battlecreek, MI. I was worried about this one primarily because all of my lease partners are firefighters and they all chew crazy amounts of dip just like I used to. I am new to the lease and not particularly close to any of them but, this was set to be my first time around a huge crowd of users. Well that one turned out fine also, although I stayed quite solo and really had minimal contact with the dippers except one trip to local diner after the hunt. One guy flipped me his tin of Grizzly because he recalled I used the same brand. I slid it back across the table and simply said I dont do that shit anymore. He had a shocked and surprised look on his face as he said, "Yeah, I need to quit too". I told him to check out KTC and call me if he has any questions.

I returned home last night from a 3rd trip. This was an 11th annual camping trip to a little property near Jonesville, MI that I share with 2 very close friends. One of them happens to be a big time dipper. I am not proud of the fact that I really introduced him to this foul addiction 11 years when we started hunting together. He was just a once in a while kind of user prior to meeting me. I dont really know why, but it is this trip that I was losing sleep over. Outside of hunting season we dont talk very frequently but I did tell him over the summer that I had quit. His response was "yeah OK, we will see how long that one lasts". Well the first night after the hunt I learned some incredible news. Sitting around a bonfire having a few beers I noticed he was not packing his usual lip full. It turns our that he decided to quit dipping also about a month ago. He said screw it, if Ryan can do it, I can do it.  He said he was also worried about hunt camp and how his use might influence me. No KTC, no NRT, no wellbutrin. He just dumped it and said done. I am so damn happy and proud of this guy. Also a bit jealous that it seemed so easy for him.

The rest of the weekend was amazing. I didnt see many bucks but was able to get an arrow into two fine looking does for the freezer. This October has been monumental in my quit. I am doing something without dip that my addict brain has always told me I couldnt do. Even as I started going thru the motions of hunting and preparation, my addict brain was tellling me, you may be able to do it, but you wont enjoy it as much. Addiction is a bitch, she still tries to lie and lure. Thanks to this site, her efforts are now futile. As far not enjoying it as much, completely false, I am having the greatest hunting season I have ever had. The freedom of being quit is allowing me to notice things I have never noticed. To see things I have never seen. To smell things I have never smelled. Just to be out there and experience nature without the influence of nicotine. It seemed like all things were new again. I know now that experiencing and enjoying the outdoors has NOTHING to do with dipping. It never did.

Time heals all wounds as they say. For the last 3 months I had myself psyched out because of was fearful about how badly I was going to "want it". Well my little epiphany was completed when my newly quit friend reclined in the camp chair and put his feet up after a long day of deer hunting and said, "damn a dip sounds great right no doesn't it?" After a brief silence, I said "fuck no it doesn't, I would rather suck on a cat turd and drink skunk piss than have a dip right now". It was probably the first time in 300 days that no single part of me, not one once of my mind or body, craved or reminised or anything remoted related.

If you are just starting out in this quit, stick around, it gets so much better. If you are a hunter, be safe out there, and don't spit in my woods, that shit is nasty.

Ryan
Nice read Ryan proud to be quit with you keep up the great work. Keep slaying them
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on November 22, 2013, 09:58:00 PM
322

Conquering hurdles left and right and cruising right along. It feels incredible to accomplish tasks for the first time without the use of nicotine. This whole year has seemed like a long series of firsts.

Here are a few recents successes. All things that I foolishly believed I could never do without a dip in. What a knuckle head I was.

1. Indiana deer camp, no dip.

2. Butchering deer, no dip.

3. Making venison summer sausage and jerkey, no dip.

4. Raking leaves and other fall clean up, no dip.

As this first year dip free comes to a close I could not be happier. With the help of this great site and its members I have learned how to live the dip free life. I have made a few friends along the way and for that I am grateful.

Newbies, you can do this. You may not see it now, but you will soon see, YOU DONT NEED THAT SHIT, AND YOU NEVER REALLY DID!!!!

My goal for year 2 will be to do a better job of helping new quitters find their way.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on November 22, 2013, 10:02:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
322

Conquering hurdles left and right and cruising right along. It feels incredible to accomplish tasks for the first time without the use of nicotine. This whole year has seemed like a long series of firsts.

Here are a few recents successes. All things that I foolishly believed I could never do without a dip in. What a knuckle head I was.

1. Indiana deer camp, no dip.

2. Butchering deer, no dip.

3. Making venison summer sausage and jerkey, no dip.

4. Raking leaves and other fall clean up, no dip.

As this first year dip free comes to a close I could not be happier. With the help of this great site and its members I have learned how to live the dip free life. I have made a few friends along the way and for that I am grateful.

Newbies, you can do this. You may not see it now, but you will soon see, YOU DONT NEED THAT SHIT, AND YOU NEVER REALLY DID!!!!

My goal for year 2 will be to do a better job of helping new quitters find their way.
Congrats brother this year marked my first deer killed without bing under the influence on nicotine.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: KC_Guy on November 22, 2013, 10:37:00 PM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
322

Conquering hurdles left and right and cruising right along.  It feels incredible to accomplish tasks for the first time without the use of nicotine.  This whole year has seemed like a long series of firsts.

Here are a few recents successes.  All things that I foolishly believed I could never do without a dip in.  What a knuckle head I was.

1. Indiana deer camp, no dip.

2. Butchering deer, no dip.

3. Making venison summer sausage and jerkey, no dip.

4. Raking leaves and other fall clean up, no dip.

As this first year dip free comes to a close I could not be happier.  With the help of this great site and its members I have learned how to live the dip free life.  I have made a few friends along the way and for that I am grateful. 

Newbies, you can do this.  You may not see it now, but you will soon see, YOU DONT NEED THAT SHIT, AND YOU NEVER REALLY DID!!!!

My goal for year 2 will be to do a better job of helping new quitters find their way.
Congrats brother this year marked my first deer killed without bing under the influence on nicotine.
Dudes like you are the reason that guys like me BELIEVE we can quit and stay quit. Keep doing what you do. I will roll with you and pinched any and every damn day of the week. QLF with both of you bad asses.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on November 22, 2013, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
322

Conquering hurdles left and right and cruising right along.  It feels incredible to accomplish tasks for the first time without the use of nicotine.  This whole year has seemed like a long series of firsts.

Here are a few recents successes.  All things that I foolishly believed I could never do without a dip in.  What a knuckle head I was.

1. Indiana deer camp, no dip.

2. Butchering deer, no dip.

3. Making venison summer sausage and jerkey, no dip.

4. Raking leaves and other fall clean up, no dip.

As this first year dip free comes to a close I could not be happier.  With the help of this great site and its members I have learned how to live the dip free life.  I have made a few friends along the way and for that I am grateful. 

Newbies, you can do this.  You may not see it now, but you will soon see, YOU DONT NEED THAT SHIT, AND YOU NEVER REALLY DID!!!!

My goal for year 2 will be to do a better job of helping new quitters find their way.
Congrats brother this year marked my first deer killed without bing under the influence on nicotine.
Dudes like you are the reason that guys like me BELIEVE we can quit and stay quit. Keep doing what you do. I will roll with you and pinched any and every damn day of the week. QLF with both of you bad asses.
It really is amazing isn't it? We've ridden this roller coaster together, and would never have anticipated the results. Knew we had to stop, but never anticipated just how much better our lives would be once quit.

A year ago you would have read a post like the one you just typed and muttered "bullshit." But it isn't bullshit. It is freedom... And it is yours.

Thanks for bringing me along for the ride Ryan. We have a big milestone ahead.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on November 23, 2013, 12:38:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
322

Conquering hurdles left and right and cruising right along. It feels incredible to accomplish tasks for the first time without the use of nicotine. This whole year has seemed like a long series of firsts.

Here are a few recents successes. All things that I foolishly believed I could never do without a dip in. What a knuckle head I was.

1. Indiana deer camp, no dip.

2. Butchering deer, no dip.

3. Making venison summer sausage and jerkey, no dip.

4. Raking leaves and other fall clean up, no dip.

As this first year dip free comes to a close I could not be happier. With the help of this great site and its members I have learned how to live the dip free life. I have made a few friends along the way and for that I am grateful.

Newbies, you can do this. You may not see it now, but you will soon see, YOU DONT NEED THAT SHIT, AND YOU NEVER REALLY DID!!!!

My goal for year 2 will be to do a better job of helping new quitters find their way.
Holy shit, you're creeping on a year???!!! Great job my friend. You're a kick ass quitter and I love to hear you kicking the shit out of hurdles. Remember when you said this..

"I think a lot of people are full of shit with all these feel good posts. Can the power of positive thinking and positive talk really get us out of this fucking hole we have dug so deep. I want to dip so bad right now I cant stand it. The mental aspect is every damn bit as hard as that physical withdrawal was. I was practiced at that part, 100 times over. It hurts but at least it has an end. Seems like there is no end to this nightmare. I just want to feel normal again. Cant think beyond today."

Talk about a turn around!!!!

Hell of a "feel good post"!!!!

Fucking love it!!!

Quit on...
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 05, 2013, 06:01:00 AM
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision.

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals?

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: hope on December 05, 2013, 06:22:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision.

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals?

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
This site has made quitting possible for me for 34 days. I can only say KTC works. The people here have your back and want you to succeed. I'm thankful for everyone here. Posting roll is amazing. Accountability and support from you guys is making my life a whole new world.
I quit with each and every one of you! Hang in there today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on December 05, 2013, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: hope
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision. 

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals? 

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
This site has made quitting possible for me for 34 days. I can only say KTC works. The people here have your back and want you to succeed. I'm thankful for everyone here. Posting roll is amazing. Accountability and support from you guys is making my life a whole new world.
I quit with each and every one of you! Hang in there today.
Great summation of truth Ryan. I quit with you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on December 05, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: hope
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision. 

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals? 

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
This site has made quitting possible for me for 34 days. I can only say KTC works. The people here have your back and want you to succeed. I'm thankful for everyone here. Posting roll is amazing. Accountability and support from you guys is making my life a whole new world.
I quit with each and every one of you! Hang in there today.
Great summation of truth Ryan. I quit with you.
Proud to be associated and quit with you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on December 05, 2013, 01:16:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: hope
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision. 

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals? 

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
This site has made quitting possible for me for 34 days. I can only say KTC works. The people here have your back and want you to succeed. I'm thankful for everyone here. Posting roll is amazing. Accountability and support from you guys is making my life a whole new world.
I quit with each and every one of you! Hang in there today.
Great summation of truth Ryan. I quit with you.
Proud to be associated and quit with you.
atta boy Ryan,

and guess what, I will choose to quit today as well, and stand right next to you.

Its the best decision that I can ever make.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on December 05, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: hope
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision. 

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals? 

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
This site has made quitting possible for me for 34 days. I can only say KTC works. The people here have your back and want you to succeed. I'm thankful for everyone here. Posting roll is amazing. Accountability and support from you guys is making my life a whole new world.
I quit with each and every one of you! Hang in there today.
Great summation of truth Ryan. I quit with you.
Proud to be associated and quit with you.
atta boy Ryan,

and guess what, I will choose to quit today as well, and stand right next to you.

Its the best decision that I can ever make.
Fuck it I too will join the coddling of Ryan's balls...

I love you too man! :wub:
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 30isEnuff on December 05, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: hope
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision. 

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals? 

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
This site has made quitting possible for me for 34 days. I can only say KTC works. The people here have your back and want you to succeed. I'm thankful for everyone here. Posting roll is amazing. Accountability and support from you guys is making my life a whole new world.
I quit with each and every one of you! Hang in there today.
Great summation of truth Ryan. I quit with you.
Proud to be associated and quit with you.
atta boy Ryan,

and guess what, I will choose to quit today as well, and stand right next to you.

Its the best decision that I can ever make.
Fuck it I too will join the coddling of Ryan's balls...

I love you too man! :wub:
Fuckin' aye. Makin' the choice every a.m. with YOU!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 05, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: 30isEnuff
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: hope
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision. 

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals? 

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
This site has made quitting possible for me for 34 days. I can only say KTC works. The people here have your back and want you to succeed. I'm thankful for everyone here. Posting roll is amazing. Accountability and support from you guys is making my life a whole new world.
I quit with each and every one of you! Hang in there today.
Great summation of truth Ryan. I quit with you.
Proud to be associated and quit with you.
atta boy Ryan,

and guess what, I will choose to quit today as well, and stand right next to you.

Its the best decision that I can ever make.
Fuck it I too will join the coddling of Ryan's balls...

I love you too man! :wub:
Fuckin' aye. Makin' the choice every a.m. with YOU!
Pinched, you can coddle my balls all day, just bring that avatar along with you.

Coddle, coddle, ahhhh. Don't know what you're looking for down there but it is a little to the left. 'do it' 'hit it' 'hit it' 'hit it' 'hit it'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: KC_Guy on December 05, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: 30isEnuff
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: hope
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
335

For the last 335 days I have woke up and made a decision. 

Will I cram my face full of a carcinogenic neurotoxin today OR will I promise to live in freedom with you crazy animals? 

It is amazing how easy that choice becomes over time.

Have a great day quitters.

Ryan
This site has made quitting possible for me for 34 days. I can only say KTC works. The people here have your back and want you to succeed. I'm thankful for everyone here. Posting roll is amazing. Accountability and support from you guys is making my life a whole new world.
I quit with each and every one of you! Hang in there today.
Great summation of truth Ryan. I quit with you.
Proud to be associated and quit with you.
atta boy Ryan,

and guess what, I will choose to quit today as well, and stand right next to you.

Its the best decision that I can ever make.
Fuck it I too will join the coddling of Ryan's balls...

I love you too man! :wub:
Fuckin' aye. Makin' the choice every a.m. with YOU!
Pinched, you can coddle my balls all day, just bring that avatar along with you.

Coddle, coddle, ahhhh. Don't know what you're looking for down there but it is a little to the left. 'do it' 'hit it' 'hit it' 'hit it' 'hit it'
335 days of pure QUIT. Wow dude. You are one bad ass brother. Thank you for leading the way for guys like me following behind. I quit with you today man.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 12, 2013, 06:16:00 AM
Dip dream! Seemed so real. Woke up in a panic and really had to collect myself to realize I did not cave.

WTF, less than a month away from 1 year old and still she persists. The addict mind does not let go easily. Always prowling, always searching, always looking for the smallest chink in the quit armor. She lurks, looking for a quit to devour. It will not be mine. Don't let it be yours. 10 days in or 1000 days in, guard your quit with your life and do not forget what it took to get here.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on December 12, 2013, 06:32:00 AM
I texted you but am gonna put this in your intro as well...

I think the upcoming year milestone is part of it. I had my own cave dream last week. We are always looking for "the win." The big year is a chance for our mind to say "we won" but our subconscious is wired better than that, and is gifting these dreams to us as a warning sign. Get complacent... And we are back to where we were a year ago.

Never again Ryan. We've come too far, and so today we quit again. One day at a time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on December 12, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
I texted you but am gonna put this in your intro as well...

I think the upcoming year milestone is part of it. I had my own cave dream last week. We are always looking for "the win." The big year is a chance for our mind to say "we won" but our subconscious is wired better than that, and is gifting these dreams to us as a warning sign. Get complacent... And we are back to where we were a year ago.

Never again Ryan. We've come too far, and so today we quit again. One day at a time.
I have come to cherish my dip dreams, and the scarier, more real the better. I want to know exactly how I would feel if I were to cave. The self loathing, the shame, the general sense that I am the biggest looser on the planet once I realize I have caved in my dream: these are the things that keep me quit when the craves get strong. I think it is often like what Worktowin says; the subconscious mind is helping to keep us on our toes.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on December 12, 2013, 10:38:00 AM
You won't cave Ryan cause that would make me cry and there's nothing worse than making a girl cry because of something stupid you chose to do.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 14, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
You won't cave Ryan cause that would make me cry and there's nothing worse than making a girl cry because of something stupid you chose to do.
As you say missy, there will be no caving and there will be no crying. Have a great weekend quitters.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 14, 2013, 10:53:00 PM
Read my HOF today. Wow, a lot has changed since that day.

index.php?showtopic=8088 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8088)

This site gives us an awesome opportunity to archive our quit. I may re-read near the 2 year mark. I don't want to ever forget from where it is that I came from.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on December 22, 2013, 04:58:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Read my HOF today. Wow, a lot has changed since that day.

index.php?showtopic=8088 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8088)

This site gives us an awesome opportunity to archive our quit. I may re-read near the 2 year mark. I don't want to ever forget from where it is that I came from.
Keeping a journal of our quits' is indeed a great tool. Awesome to be able to see where we have been and how similar we all are. The poison is the worst trap for mankind, but it is possible to escape it every day.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 31, 2013, 05:16:00 AM
365 days ago, on New Year’s Day, I dumped the last of my grizzly wintergreen into the toilet. I wish I could say my resolve was firm at that moment, but it wasn’t. The truth is I was too hung over to pack a dip that morning anyway. So I figured that I might as well try to “quit”, again, for the millionth time. Most of the day I thought about the tins out in my truck that certainly had enough left in them for a lip full. I also thought about all of the 4mg lozenges that were stashed everywhere from my previous quit attempts, (in my glove box, in my tool box and in my desk at work).

Somehow I made it through that day without ingesting nicotine. And truthfully that “day 1” and many of my previous day 1’s were not actually too bad. Day 2 and following was a whole other ball game. I remembered it well from previous “quits”. The whirlwind ensued and all of the symptoms of withdrawal began. As is common with addiction, this withdrawal began to dominate my every thought and my very existence. I remember bits and pieces of it, but mostly I remember spending about a week on the couch curled up in the fetal position. Somewhere around day 2 or 3, I did manage to clean out my truck and pitch the spit bottles and the rest of my nicotine paraphernalia. Oh how I wanted one of those lozenges at that time. But I knew deep down it was a hook. It was nicotine’s grip to ensure I didn’t stray too far from her. In my previous quits I would always use NRT, foolishly keeping myself addicted and prolonging my suffering. I didn’t know any better. But for some reason this time I didn’t do it.

Somewhere in the fog of day 3 or 4, I had to go to work for a few hours. I remember panicking and thinking there was no possible way I could function at work. I could not think straight, I could not see straight. It was this day that I found a spent dip and popped it in up for the ride to work. You know the one, an already dipped dip. A re-dip so to speak. It may go by many names, but I scoured my trash can for this one. Although not the first time having done this, this time felt lower than low. I knew how bad I wanted to be quit yet I searched the trash like a junkie searching for a vein. I believe it was this day that I truly realized the depth of my addiction.

I survived work that day and returned to my couch. I had the house to myself as the wife and kids went to go and do something fun without me. She knew how miserable I was acting and she knew that I would have declined to do anything anyway. She didnÂ’t bother to ask. I slept for hours and ate everything in sight. Everything was a trigger. I felt like my world was caving in. My mind was racing and my body was kicking and screaming. At one point I fell to my knees and sobbed, crying out for help. I knew I was gonna fail anyway so why not just fail right now. I thought that I could end this misery RIGHT NOW by running to the store and getting my dip. I didnÂ’t. Instead I decided to turn on my computer and Google nicotine withdrawal. That is where this story begins. That is the moment that this quit had a fighting chance.

Today should be my 365. But it isnÂ’t. I cannot count from the day that I valiantly and triumphantly dumped my can in the toilet. I must count that last dip on the way to work. The one from the garbage can. It will be this dip that I force myself to remember on the anniversaries of my quit and during those times in the future that I might be tempted. It was the worst dip that I ever took. It was the one that I didnÂ’t want. It was the one that I tried to fight. It was the one that made me realize that I was an addict and that I could not get free on my own. It was this dip that led me to you and this wonderful place called KTC.

I want to wish a Happy New Year to you and your families. I will be celebrating this one without dip for the first time in my adult life and for that I am grateful beyond belief.

If you are reading this and you are contemplating quitting. Get off the fence, make the decision, and join us. You will not regret it.

Its_Got2Happen Day 361
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on December 31, 2013, 06:19:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
365 days ago, on New Year’s Day, I dumped the last of my grizzly wintergreen into the toilet. I wish I could say my resolve was firm at that moment, but it wasn’t. The truth is I was too hung over to pack a dip that morning anyway. So I figured that I might as well try to “quit”, again, for the millionth time. Most of the day I thought about the tins out in my truck that certainly had enough left in them for a lip full. I also thought about all of the 4mg lozenges that were stashed everywhere from my previous quit attempts, (in my glove box, in my tool box and in my desk at work).

Somehow I made it through that day without ingesting nicotine. And truthfully that “day 1” and many of my previous day 1’s were not actually too bad. Day 2 and following was a whole other ball game. I remembered it well from previous “quits”. The whirlwind ensued and all of the symptoms of withdrawal began. As is common with addiction, this withdrawal began to dominate my every thought and my very existence. I remember bits and pieces of it, but mostly I remember spending about a week on the couch curled up in the fetal position. Somewhere around day 2 or 3, I did manage to clean out my truck and pitch the spit bottles and the rest of my nicotine paraphernalia. Oh how I wanted one of those lozenges at that time. But I knew deep down it was a hook. It was nicotine’s grip to ensure I didn’t stray too far from her. In my previous quits I would always use NRT, foolishly keeping myself addicted and prolonging my suffering. I didn’t know any better. But for some reason this time I didn’t do it.

Somewhere in the fog of day 3 or 4, I had to go to work for a few hours. I remember panicking and thinking there was no possible way I could function at work. I could not think straight, I could not see straight. It was this day that I found a spent dip and popped it in up for the ride to work. You know the one, an already dipped dip. A re-dip so to speak. It may go by many names, but I scoured my trash can for this one. Although not the first time having done this, this time felt lower than low. I knew how bad I wanted to be quit yet I searched the trash like a junkie searching for a vein. I believe it was this day that I truly realized the depth of my addiction.

I survived work that day and returned to my couch. I had the house to myself as the wife and kids went to go and do something fun without me. She knew how miserable I was acting and she knew that I would have declined to do anything anyway. She didnÂ’t bother to ask. I slept for hours and ate everything in sight. Everything was a trigger. I felt like my world was caving in. My mind was racing and my body was kicking and screaming. At one point I fell to my knees and sobbed, crying out for help. I knew I was gonna fail anyway so why not just fail right now. I thought that I could end this misery RIGHT NOW by running to the store and getting my dip. I didnÂ’t. Instead I decided to turn on my computer and Google nicotine withdrawal. That is where this story begins. That is the moment that this quit had a fighting chance.

Today should be my 365. But it isnÂ’t. I cannot count from the day that I valiantly and triumphantly dumped my can in the toilet. I must count that last dip on the way to work. The one from the garbage can. It will be this dip that I force myself to remember on the anniversaries of my quit and during those times in the future that I might be tempted. It was the worst dip that I ever took. It was the one that I didnÂ’t want. It was the one that I tried to fight. It was the one that made me realize that I was an addict and that I could not get free on my own. It was this dip that led me to you and this wonderful place called KTC.

I want to wish a Happy New Year to you and your families. I will be celebrating this one without dip for the first time in my adult life and for that I am grateful beyond belief.

If you are reading this and you are contemplating quitting. Get off the fence, make the decision, and join us. You will not regret it.

Its_Got2Happen Day 361
After 373 days I still read the intros every day. Because of posts like this. Thank you for the vivid reminder if where we were a year ago, a dark miserable place we put ourselves in that we had to fight... Kicking, screaming, and crying... To escape. But, one day at a time we did.

Be it today or in 3-4 more, congratulations, Ryan. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride. Happy new year.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kana on December 31, 2013, 06:34:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
365 days ago, on New Year’s Day, I dumped the last of my grizzly wintergreen into the toilet.  I wish I could say my resolve was firm at that moment, but it wasn’t.  The truth is I was too hung over to pack a dip that morning anyway.  So I figured that I might as well try to “quit”, again, for the millionth time.  Most of the day I thought about the tins out in my truck that certainly had enough left in them for a lip full.  I also thought about all of the 4mg lozenges that were stashed everywhere from my previous quit attempts, (in my glove box, in my tool box and in my desk at work).

Somehow I made it through that day without ingesting nicotine.  And truthfully that “day 1” and many of my previous day 1’s were not actually too bad.  Day 2 and following was a whole other ball game.  I remembered it well from previous “quits”.  The whirlwind ensued and all of the symptoms of withdrawal  began.  As is common with addiction, this withdrawal began to dominate my every thought and my very existence.  I remember bits and pieces of it, but mostly I remember spending about a week on the couch curled up in the fetal position.  Somewhere around day 2 or 3, I did manage to clean out my truck and pitch the spit bottles and the rest of my nicotine paraphernalia.  Oh how I wanted one of those lozenges at that time.  But I knew deep down it was a hook.  It was nicotine’s grip to ensure I didn’t stray too far from her.  In my previous quits I would always use NRT, foolishly keeping myself addicted and prolonging my suffering.  I didn’t know any better.  But for some reason this time I didn’t do it.

Somewhere in the fog of day 3 or 4, I had to go to work for a few hours.  I remember panicking and thinking there was no possible way I could function at work.  I could not think straight, I could not see straight.  It was this day that I found a spent dip and popped it in up for the ride to work.  You know the one, an already dipped dip.  A re-dip so to speak.  It may go by many names, but I scoured my trash can for this one.  Although not the first time having done this, this time felt lower than low.  I knew how bad I wanted to be quit yet I searched the trash like a junkie searching for a vein.  I believe it was this day that I truly realized the depth of my addiction. 

I survived work that day and returned to my couch.  I had the house to myself as the wife and kids went to go and do something fun without me.  She knew how miserable I was acting and she knew that I would have declined to do anything anyway.  She didn’t bother to ask.  I slept for hours and ate everything in sight.  Everything was a trigger.  I felt like my world was caving in.  My mind was racing and my body was kicking and screaming.  At one point I fell to my knees and sobbed, crying out for help.  I knew I was gonna fail anyway so why not just fail right now.  I thought that I could end this misery RIGHT NOW by running to the store and getting my dip.  I didn’t.  Instead I decided to turn on my computer and Google nicotine withdrawal.  That is where this story begins.  That is the moment that this quit had a fighting chance. 

Today should be my 365.  But it isn’t.  I cannot count from the day that I valiantly and triumphantly dumped my can in the toilet.  I must count that last dip on the way to work.  The one from the garbage can.  It will be this dip that I force myself to remember on the anniversaries of my quit and during those times in the future that I might be tempted.  It was the worst dip that I ever took.  It was the one that I didn’t want.  It was the one that I tried to fight.  It was the one that made me realize that I was an addict and that I could not get free on my own.  It was this dip that led me to you and this wonderful place called KTC.
 
I want to wish a Happy New Year to you and your families.  I will be celebrating this one without dip for the first time in my adult life and for that I am grateful beyond belief. 

If you are reading this and you are contemplating quitting.  Get off the fence, make the decision, and join us.  You will not regret it.

Its_Got2Happen Day 361
After 373 days I still read the intros every day. Because of posts like this. Thank you for the vivid reminder if where we were a year ago, a dark miserable place we put ourselves in that we had to fight... Kicking, screaming, and crying... To escape. But, one day at a time we did.

Be it today or in 3-4 more, congratulations, Ryan. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride. Happy new year.
well done brother.. i remember when you first came here.. so proud of you. keep it going because it just gets better  better everyday. no more dumpster diving for us!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on December 31, 2013, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
365 days ago, on New Year’s Day, I dumped the last of my grizzly wintergreen into the toilet.  I wish I could say my resolve was firm at that moment, but it wasn’t.  The truth is I was too hung over to pack a dip that morning anyway.  So I figured that I might as well try to “quit”, again, for the millionth time.  Most of the day I thought about the tins out in my truck that certainly had enough left in them for a lip full.  I also thought about all of the 4mg lozenges that were stashed everywhere from my previous quit attempts, (in my glove box, in my tool box and in my desk at work).

Somehow I made it through that day without ingesting nicotine.  And truthfully that “day 1” and many of my previous day 1’s were not actually too bad.  Day 2 and following was a whole other ball game.  I remembered it well from previous “quits”.  The whirlwind ensued and all of the symptoms of withdrawal  began.  As is common with addiction, this withdrawal began to dominate my every thought and my very existence.  I remember bits and pieces of it, but mostly I remember spending about a week on the couch curled up in the fetal position.  Somewhere around day 2 or 3, I did manage to clean out my truck and pitch the spit bottles and the rest of my nicotine paraphernalia.  Oh how I wanted one of those lozenges at that time.  But I knew deep down it was a hook.  It was nicotine’s grip to ensure I didn’t stray too far from her.  In my previous quits I would always use NRT, foolishly keeping myself addicted and prolonging my suffering.   I didn’t know any better.  But for some reason this time I didn’t do it.

Somewhere in the fog of day 3 or 4, I had to go to work for a few hours.  I remember panicking and thinking there was no possible way I could function at work.   I could not think straight, I could not see straight.  It was this day that I found a spent dip and popped it in up for the ride to work.  You know the one, an already dipped dip.  A re-dip so to speak.  It may go by many names, but I scoured my trash can for this one.  Although not the first time having done this, this time felt lower than low.  I knew how bad I wanted to be quit yet I searched the trash like a junkie searching for a vein.  I believe it was this day that I truly realized the depth of my addiction. 

I survived work that day and returned to my couch.  I had the house to myself as the wife and kids went to go and do something fun without me.  She knew how miserable I was acting and she knew that I would have declined to do anything anyway.  She didn’t bother to ask.  I slept for hours and ate everything in sight.  Everything was a trigger.  I felt like my world was caving in.  My mind was racing and my body was kicking and screaming.  At one point I fell to my knees and sobbed, crying out for help.  I knew I was gonna fail anyway so why not just fail right now.  I thought that I could end this misery RIGHT NOW by running to the store and getting my dip.  I didn’t.  Instead I decided to turn on my computer and Google nicotine withdrawal.  That is where this story begins.  That is the moment that this quit had a fighting chance. 

Today should be my 365.  But it isn’t.  I cannot count from the day that I valiantly and triumphantly dumped my can in the toilet.   I must count that last dip on the way to work.  The one from the garbage can.  It will be this dip that I force myself to remember on the anniversaries of my quit and during those times in the future that I might be tempted.  It was the worst dip that I ever took.  It was the one that I didn’t want.  It was the one that I tried to fight.  It was the one that made me realize that I was an addict and that I could not get free on my own.  It was this dip that led me to you and this wonderful place called KTC.
 
I want to wish a Happy New Year to you and your families.  I will be celebrating this one without dip for the first time in my adult life and for that I am grateful beyond belief. 

If you are reading this and you are contemplating quitting.  Get off the fence, make the decision, and join us.  You will not regret it.

Its_Got2Happen Day 361
After 373 days I still read the intros every day. Because of posts like this. Thank you for the vivid reminder if where we were a year ago, a dark miserable place we put ourselves in that we had to fight... Kicking, screaming, and crying... To escape. But, one day at a time we did.

Be it today or in 3-4 more, congratulations, Ryan. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride. Happy new year.
well done brother.. i remember when you first came here.. so proud of you. keep it going because it just gets better  better everyday. no more dumpster diving for us!
Quit with you any day bro. I'm staying on this ride,,,, I LIKEY!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: RAZD611 on December 31, 2013, 07:56:00 PM
'clap'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 02, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
365 days ago, on New Year’s Day, I dumped the last of my grizzly wintergreen into the toilet.  I wish I could say my resolve was firm at that moment, but it wasn’t.  The truth is I was too hung over to pack a dip that morning anyway.  So I figured that I might as well try to “quit”, again, for the millionth time.  Most of the day I thought about the tins out in my truck that certainly had enough left in them for a lip full.  I also thought about all of the 4mg lozenges that were stashed everywhere from my previous quit attempts, (in my glove box, in my tool box and in my desk at work).

Somehow I made it through that day without ingesting nicotine.  And truthfully that “day 1” and many of my previous day 1’s were not actually too bad.  Day 2 and following was a whole other ball game.  I remembered it well from previous “quits”.  The whirlwind ensued and all of the symptoms of withdrawal  began.  As is common with addiction, this withdrawal began to dominate my every thought and my very existence.  I remember bits and pieces of it, but mostly I remember spending about a week on the couch curled up in the fetal position.  Somewhere around day 2 or 3, I did manage to clean out my truck and pitch the spit bottles and the rest of my nicotine paraphernalia.  Oh how I wanted one of those lozenges at that time.  But I knew deep down it was a hook.  It was nicotine’s grip to ensure I didn’t stray too far from her.  In my previous quits I would always use NRT, foolishly keeping myself addicted and prolonging my suffering.   I didn’t know any better.  But for some reason this time I didn’t do it.

Somewhere in the fog of day 3 or 4, I had to go to work for a few hours.  I remember panicking and thinking there was no possible way I could function at work.   I could not think straight, I could not see straight.  It was this day that I found a spent dip and popped it in up for the ride to work.  You know the one, an already dipped dip.  A re-dip so to speak.  It may go by many names, but I scoured my trash can for this one.  Although not the first time having done this, this time felt lower than low.  I knew how bad I wanted to be quit yet I searched the trash like a junkie searching for a vein.  I believe it was this day that I truly realized the depth of my addiction. 

I survived work that day and returned to my couch.  I had the house to myself as the wife and kids went to go and do something fun without me.  She knew how miserable I was acting and she knew that I would have declined to do anything anyway.  She didn’t bother to ask.  I slept for hours and ate everything in sight.  Everything was a trigger.  I felt like my world was caving in.  My mind was racing and my body was kicking and screaming.  At one point I fell to my knees and sobbed, crying out for help.  I knew I was gonna fail anyway so why not just fail right now.  I thought that I could end this misery RIGHT NOW by running to the store and getting my dip.  I didn’t.  Instead I decided to turn on my computer and Google nicotine withdrawal.  That is where this story begins.  That is the moment that this quit had a fighting chance. 

Today should be my 365.  But it isn’t.  I cannot count from the day that I valiantly and triumphantly dumped my can in the toilet.   I must count that last dip on the way to work.  The one from the garbage can.  It will be this dip that I force myself to remember on the anniversaries of my quit and during those times in the future that I might be tempted.  It was the worst dip that I ever took.  It was the one that I didn’t want.  It was the one that I tried to fight.  It was the one that made me realize that I was an addict and that I could not get free on my own.  It was this dip that led me to you and this wonderful place called KTC.
 
I want to wish a Happy New Year to you and your families.  I will be celebrating this one without dip for the first time in my adult life and for that I am grateful beyond belief. 

If you are reading this and you are contemplating quitting.  Get off the fence, make the decision, and join us.  You will not regret it.

Its_Got2Happen Day 361
After 373 days I still read the intros every day. Because of posts like this. Thank you for the vivid reminder if where we were a year ago, a dark miserable place we put ourselves in that we had to fight... Kicking, screaming, and crying... To escape. But, one day at a time we did.

Be it today or in 3-4 more, congratulations, Ryan. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride. Happy new year.
well done brother.. i remember when you first came here.. so proud of you. keep it going because it just gets better  better everyday. no more dumpster diving for us!
Quit with you any day bro. I'm staying on this ride,,,, I LIKEY!
Thank you gentlemen. I must say, it feels mighty good to be starting this new year off in freedom rather than bondage and torment. I recall the mental anguish last year during the first few weeks of quitting. Constantly battling in my head, day in and day out.

"I deserve a dip", "it is just this one vice", "it is not so bad", "I can quit later", "I will just cut down", "I will just use it on the weekend", and so on, and so on. Thankfully I found this place and an army of supporters that helped me through.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: kkljinc on January 02, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
I quit with ya IG2H!! EDD
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 02, 2014, 05:02:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
365 days ago, on New Year’s Day, I dumped the last of my grizzly wintergreen into the toilet.  I wish I could say my resolve was firm at that moment, but it wasn’t.  The truth is I was too hung over to pack a dip that morning anyway.  So I figured that I might as well try to “quit”, again, for the millionth time.  Most of the day I thought about the tins out in my truck that certainly had enough left in them for a lip full.  I also thought about all of the 4mg lozenges that were stashed everywhere from my previous quit attempts, (in my glove box, in my tool box and in my desk at work).

Somehow I made it through that day without ingesting nicotine.  And truthfully that “day 1” and many of my previous day 1’s were not actually too bad.  Day 2 and following was a whole other ball game.  I remembered it well from previous “quits”.  The whirlwind ensued and all of the symptoms of withdrawal  began.  As is common with addiction, this withdrawal began to dominate my every thought and my very existence.  I remember bits and pieces of it, but mostly I remember spending about a week on the couch curled up in the fetal position.  Somewhere around day 2 or 3, I did manage to clean out my truck and pitch the spit bottles and the rest of my nicotine paraphernalia.  Oh how I wanted one of those lozenges at that time.  But I knew deep down it was a hook.  It was nicotine’s grip to ensure I didn’t stray too far from her.  In my previous quits I would always use NRT, foolishly keeping myself addicted and prolonging my suffering.   I didn’t know any better.  But for some reason this time I didn’t do it.

Somewhere in the fog of day 3 or 4, I had to go to work for a few hours.  I remember panicking and thinking there was no possible way I could function at work.   I could not think straight, I could not see straight.  It was this day that I found a spent dip and popped it in up for the ride to work.  You know the one, an already dipped dip.  A re-dip so to speak.  It may go by many names, but I scoured my trash can for this one.  Although not the first time having done this, this time felt lower than low.  I knew how bad I wanted to be quit yet I searched the trash like a junkie searching for a vein.  I believe it was this day that I truly realized the depth of my addiction. 

I survived work that day and returned to my couch.  I had the house to myself as the wife and kids went to go and do something fun without me.  She knew how miserable I was acting and she knew that I would have declined to do anything anyway.  She didn’t bother to ask.  I slept for hours and ate everything in sight.  Everything was a trigger.  I felt like my world was caving in.  My mind was racing and my body was kicking and screaming.  At one point I fell to my knees and sobbed, crying out for help.  I knew I was gonna fail anyway so why not just fail right now.  I thought that I could end this misery RIGHT NOW by running to the store and getting my dip.  I didn’t.  Instead I decided to turn on my computer and Google nicotine withdrawal.  That is where this story begins.  That is the moment that this quit had a fighting chance. 

Today should be my 365.  But it isn’t.  I cannot count from the day that I valiantly and triumphantly dumped my can in the toilet.   I must count that last dip on the way to work.  The one from the garbage can.  It will be this dip that I force myself to remember on the anniversaries of my quit and during those times in the future that I might be tempted.  It was the worst dip that I ever took.  It was the one that I didn’t want.  It was the one that I tried to fight.  It was the one that made me realize that I was an addict and that I could not get free on my own.  It was this dip that led me to you and this wonderful place called KTC.
 
I want to wish a Happy New Year to you and your families.  I will be celebrating this one without dip for the first time in my adult life and for that I am grateful beyond belief. 

If you are reading this and you are contemplating quitting.  Get off the fence, make the decision, and join us.  You will not regret it.

Its_Got2Happen Day 361
After 373 days I still read the intros every day. Because of posts like this. Thank you for the vivid reminder if where we were a year ago, a dark miserable place we put ourselves in that we had to fight... Kicking, screaming, and crying... To escape. But, one day at a time we did.

Be it today or in 3-4 more, congratulations, Ryan. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride. Happy new year.
well done brother.. i remember when you first came here.. so proud of you. keep it going because it just gets better  better everyday. no more dumpster diving for us!
Quit with you any day bro. I'm staying on this ride,,,, I LIKEY!
Thank you gentlemen. I must say, it feels mighty good to be starting this new year off in freedom rather than bondage and torment. I recall the mental anguish last year during the first few weeks of quitting. Constantly battling in my head, day in and day out.

"I deserve a dip", "it is just this one vice", "it is not so bad", "I can quit later", "I will just cut down", "I will just use it on the weekend", and so on, and so on. Thankfully I found this place and an army of supporters that helped me through.
:wub:
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Tazbutane on January 05, 2014, 09:07:00 AM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
365 days ago, on New Year’s Day, I dumped the last of my grizzly wintergreen into the toilet.  I wish I could say my resolve was firm at that moment, but it wasn’t.  The truth is I was too hung over to pack a dip that morning anyway.  So I figured that I might as well try to “quit”, again, for the millionth time.  Most of the day I thought about the tins out in my truck that certainly had enough left in them for a lip full.  I also thought about all of the 4mg lozenges that were stashed everywhere from my previous quit attempts, (in my glove box, in my tool box and in my desk at work).

Somehow I made it through that day without ingesting nicotine.  And truthfully that “day 1” and many of my previous day 1’s were not actually too bad.  Day 2 and following was a whole other ball game.  I remembered it well from previous “quits”.  The whirlwind ensued and all of the symptoms of withdrawal  began.  As is common with addiction, this withdrawal began to dominate my every thought and my very existence.  I remember bits and pieces of it, but mostly I remember spending about a week on the couch curled up in the fetal position.  Somewhere around day 2 or 3, I did manage to clean out my truck and pitch the spit bottles and the rest of my nicotine paraphernalia.  Oh how I wanted one of those lozenges at that time.  But I knew deep down it was a hook.  It was nicotine’s grip to ensure I didn’t stray too far from her.  In my previous quits I would always use NRT, foolishly keeping myself addicted and prolonging my suffering.   I didn’t know any better.  But for some reason this time I didn’t do it.

Somewhere in the fog of day 3 or 4, I had to go to work for a few hours.  I remember panicking and thinking there was no possible way I could function at work.   I could not think straight, I could not see straight.  It was this day that I found a spent dip and popped it in up for the ride to work.  You know the one, an already dipped dip.  A re-dip so to speak.  It may go by many names, but I scoured my trash can for this one.  Although not the first time having done this, this time felt lower than low.  I knew how bad I wanted to be quit yet I searched the trash like a junkie searching for a vein.  I believe it was this day that I truly realized the depth of my addiction. 

I survived work that day and returned to my couch.  I had the house to myself as the wife and kids went to go and do something fun without me.  She knew how miserable I was acting and she knew that I would have declined to do anything anyway.  She didn’t bother to ask.  I slept for hours and ate everything in sight.  Everything was a trigger.  I felt like my world was caving in.  My mind was racing and my body was kicking and screaming.  At one point I fell to my knees and sobbed, crying out for help.  I knew I was gonna fail anyway so why not just fail right now.  I thought that I could end this misery RIGHT NOW by running to the store and getting my dip.  I didn’t.  Instead I decided to turn on my computer and Google nicotine withdrawal.  That is where this story begins.  That is the moment that this quit had a fighting chance. 

Today should be my 365.  But it isn’t.  I cannot count from the day that I valiantly and triumphantly dumped my can in the toilet.   I must count that last dip on the way to work.  The one from the garbage can.  It will be this dip that I force myself to remember on the anniversaries of my quit and during those times in the future that I might be tempted.  It was the worst dip that I ever took.  It was the one that I didn’t want.  It was the one that I tried to fight.  It was the one that made me realize that I was an addict and that I could not get free on my own.  It was this dip that led me to you and this wonderful place called KTC.
 
I want to wish a Happy New Year to you and your families.  I will be celebrating this one without dip for the first time in my adult life and for that I am grateful beyond belief. 

If you are reading this and you are contemplating quitting.  Get off the fence, make the decision, and join us.  You will not regret it.

Its_Got2Happen Day 361
After 373 days I still read the intros every day. Because of posts like this. Thank you for the vivid reminder if where we were a year ago, a dark miserable place we put ourselves in that we had to fight... Kicking, screaming, and crying... To escape. But, one day at a time we did.

Be it today or in 3-4 more, congratulations, Ryan. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride. Happy new year.
well done brother.. i remember when you first came here.. so proud of you. keep it going because it just gets better  better everyday. no more dumpster diving for us!
Quit with you any day bro. I'm staying on this ride,,,, I LIKEY!
Thank you gentlemen. I must say, it feels mighty good to be starting this new year off in freedom rather than bondage and torment. I recall the mental anguish last year during the first few weeks of quitting. Constantly battling in my head, day in and day out.

"I deserve a dip", "it is just this one vice", "it is not so bad", "I can quit later", "I will just cut down", "I will just use it on the weekend", and so on, and so on. Thankfully I found this place and an army of supporters that helped me through.
:wub:
Thanks for sharing IG2H. Powerful read. I quit with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: omahaflyer on January 05, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: tazbutane
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
365 days ago, on New Year’s Day, I dumped the last of my grizzly wintergreen into the toilet.  I wish I could say my resolve was firm at that moment, but it wasn’t.  The truth is I was too hung over to pack a dip that morning anyway.  So I figured that I might as well try to “quit”, again, for the millionth time.  Most of the day I thought about the tins out in my truck that certainly had enough left in them for a lip full.  I also thought about all of the 4mg lozenges that were stashed everywhere from my previous quit attempts, (in my glove box, in my tool box and in my desk at work).

Somehow I made it through that day without ingesting nicotine.  And truthfully that “day 1” and many of my previous day 1’s were not actually too bad.  Day 2 and following was a whole other ball game.  I remembered it well from previous “quits”.  The whirlwind ensued and all of the symptoms of withdrawal  began.  As is common with addiction, this withdrawal began to dominate my every thought and my very existence.  I remember bits and pieces of it, but mostly I remember spending about a week on the couch curled up in the fetal position.  Somewhere around day 2 or 3, I did manage to clean out my truck and pitch the spit bottles and the rest of my nicotine paraphernalia.  Oh how I wanted one of those lozenges at that time.  But I knew deep down it was a hook.  It was nicotine’s grip to ensure I didn’t stray too far from her.  In my previous quits I would always use NRT, foolishly keeping myself addicted and prolonging my suffering.   I didn’t know any better.  But for some reason this time I didn’t do it.

Somewhere in the fog of day 3 or 4, I had to go to work for a few hours.  I remember panicking and thinking there was no possible way I could function at work.   I could not think straight, I could not see straight.  It was this day that I found a spent dip and popped it in up for the ride to work.  You know the one, an already dipped dip.  A re-dip so to speak.  It may go by many names, but I scoured my trash can for this one.  Although not the first time having done this, this time felt lower than low.  I knew how bad I wanted to be quit yet I searched the trash like a junkie searching for a vein.  I believe it was this day that I truly realized the depth of my addiction. 

I survived work that day and returned to my couch.  I had the house to myself as the wife and kids went to go and do something fun without me.  She knew how miserable I was acting and she knew that I would have declined to do anything anyway.  She didn’t bother to ask.  I slept for hours and ate everything in sight.  Everything was a trigger.  I felt like my world was caving in.  My mind was racing and my body was kicking and screaming.  At one point I fell to my knees and sobbed, crying out for help.  I knew I was gonna fail anyway so why not just fail right now.  I thought that I could end this misery RIGHT NOW by running to the store and getting my dip.  I didn’t.  Instead I decided to turn on my computer and Google nicotine withdrawal.  That is where this story begins.  That is the moment that this quit had a fighting chance. 

Today should be my 365.  But it isn’t.  I cannot count from the day that I valiantly and triumphantly dumped my can in the toilet.   I must count that last dip on the way to work.  The one from the garbage can.  It will be this dip that I force myself to remember on the anniversaries of my quit and during those times in the future that I might be tempted.  It was the worst dip that I ever took.  It was the one that I didn’t want.  It was the one that I tried to fight.  It was the one that made me realize that I was an addict and that I could not get free on my own.  It was this dip that led me to you and this wonderful place called KTC.
 
I want to wish a Happy New Year to you and your families.  I will be celebrating this one without dip for the first time in my adult life and for that I am grateful beyond belief. 

If you are reading this and you are contemplating quitting.  Get off the fence, make the decision, and join us.  You will not regret it.

Its_Got2Happen Day 361
After 373 days I still read the intros every day. Because of posts like this. Thank you for the vivid reminder if where we were a year ago, a dark miserable place we put ourselves in that we had to fight... Kicking, screaming, and crying... To escape. But, one day at a time we did.

Be it today or in 3-4 more, congratulations, Ryan. Thanks for bringing me along for the ride. Happy new year.
well done brother.. i remember when you first came here.. so proud of you. keep it going because it just gets better  better everyday. no more dumpster diving for us!
Quit with you any day bro. I'm staying on this ride,,,, I LIKEY!
Thank you gentlemen. I must say, it feels mighty good to be starting this new year off in freedom rather than bondage and torment. I recall the mental anguish last year during the first few weeks of quitting. Constantly battling in my head, day in and day out.

"I deserve a dip", "it is just this one vice", "it is not so bad", "I can quit later", "I will just cut down", "I will just use it on the weekend", and so on, and so on. Thankfully I found this place and an army of supporters that helped me through.
:wub:
Thanks for sharing IG2H. Powerful read. I quit with you today.
So happy for you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 08, 2014, 05:38:00 AM
400 days. WOW! I am truly beside myself. I love this quitting shit.

Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”. A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”. “It is too hard”. “I cannot quit”. “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”. And so on and so on. Well it wasn’t OK. Nicotine is a liar and a thief. I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined. I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness. It made me so selfish. Wish I had quit sooner. But that is the past.

I sat next to a guy at my sonÂ’s basketball game yesterday. He was a dad from the opposing team. He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, andÂ…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â….. he was not spitting. YUCK! I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didnÂ’t sit right down next to me. I remember being that guy.

I reminisced.

I remembered the pain.

I remembered the shame.

I remembered the deceit.

I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.

I remembered the defeat and failed quits.

I could never use enough to feel like I didnÂ’t want more. And so it is with addiction
.
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine. I remember longing for it as I watched them. Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me. Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today. There are days when I think I am done with this site. As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!! Those thoughts are dangerous. Addiction is forever. I know this. I am vulnerable. I am human. I need support. I need reminders. I need tools. I need all of you. And I am OK with that.

I told this guy, (above) about KTC. I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done. He told me to fuck off. And I am OK with that. You never know the power of your words though, and of your example. Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns. You never know.

Here is my roll post for today. IG2H. 400. No nicotine today. I leave you with these words from a wise quitter. I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today. Thank you Skoal Monster. This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance. I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on February 08, 2014, 05:58:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days. WOW! I am truly beside myself. I love this quitting shit.

Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”. A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”. “It is too hard”. “I cannot quit”. “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”. And so on and so on. Well it wasn’t OK. Nicotine is a liar and a thief. I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined. I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness. It made me so selfish. Wish I had quit sooner. But that is the past.

I sat next to a guy at my sonÂ’s basketball game yesterday. He was a dad from the opposing team. He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, andÂ…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â….. he was not spitting. YUCK! I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didnÂ’t sit right down next to me. I remember being that guy.

I reminisced.

I remembered the pain.

I remembered the shame.

I remembered the deceit.

I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.

I remembered the defeat and failed quits.

I could never use enough to feel like I didnÂ’t want more. And so it is with addiction
.
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine. I remember longing for it as I watched them. Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me. Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today. There are days when I think I am done with this site. As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!! Those thoughts are dangerous. Addiction is forever. I know this. I am vulnerable. I am human. I need support. I need reminders. I need tools. I need all of you. And I am OK with that.

I told this guy, (above) about KTC. I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done. He told me to fuck off. And I am OK with that. You never know the power of your words though, and of your example. Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns. You never know.

Here is my roll post for today. IG2H. 400. No nicotine today. I leave you with these words from a wise quitter. I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today. Thank you Skoal Monster. This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance. I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on February 08, 2014, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
 
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
'worship'

that is all
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on February 08, 2014, 08:36:00 AM
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
 
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on February 08, 2014, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Nickald on February 08, 2014, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: brettlees on February 08, 2014, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: RAZD611 on February 08, 2014, 07:01:00 PM
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Scowick65 on February 08, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Very well done indeed!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jake frawley on February 08, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Very well done indeed!
Yes ! Ryan is the man! Great job bro. You are inspiring. I appreciate your example.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 08, 2014, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Very well done indeed!
Yes ! Ryan is the man! Great job bro. You are inspiring. I appreciate your example.
Slow clap
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on February 08, 2014, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Very well done indeed!
Yes ! Ryan is the man! Great job bro. You are inspiring. I appreciate your example.
Slow clap
400 days ago you and I were just beginning a journey that neither of us was anticipating. We both knew we needed to quit. We were both weak and very fucked up. You and a handful of others helped drag me along kicking and yelling, and together one day at a time things slowly got better. And better.

There are people reading this that are saying bullshit. It won't ever get better. This hell that I am in won't ever improve. Well... It does. It took you a while to get to this point, Ryan. I remember us talking around 300 when you were headed out to the deer stands and you were a nervous wreck. Remember jacking up roll those days? lol. But, just like in shawshank redemption, you have broken free. Never forget where you were 400 days ago. Because, we won't ever go through that a grin by keeping our word one day at a time.

Congratulations Ryan. And thank you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on February 09, 2014, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Very well done indeed!
Yes ! Ryan is the man! Great job bro. You are inspiring. I appreciate your example.
Slow clap
400 days ago you and I were just beginning a journey that neither of us was anticipating. We both knew we needed to quit. We were both weak and very fucked up. You and a handful of others helped drag me along kicking and yelling, and together one day at a time things slowly got better. And better.

There are people reading this that are saying bullshit. It won't ever get better. This hell that I am in won't ever improve. Well... It does. It took you a while to get to this point, Ryan. I remember us talking around 300 when you were headed out to the deer stands and you were a nervous wreck. Remember jacking up roll those days? lol. But, just like in shawshank redemption, you have broken free. Never forget where you were 400 days ago. Because, we won't ever go through that a grin by keeping our word one day at a time.

Congratulations Ryan. And thank you.
awesome on 4 bills keep you head up this was a good read proud of you IG2H!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Gdubya on February 09, 2014, 09:06:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Very well done indeed!
Yes ! Ryan is the man! Great job bro. You are inspiring. I appreciate your example.
Slow clap
400 days ago you and I were just beginning a journey that neither of us was anticipating. We both knew we needed to quit. We were both weak and very fucked up. You and a handful of others helped drag me along kicking and yelling, and together one day at a time things slowly got better. And better.

There are people reading this that are saying bullshit. It won't ever get better. This hell that I am in won't ever improve. Well... It does. It took you a while to get to this point, Ryan. I remember us talking around 300 when you were headed out to the deer stands and you were a nervous wreck. Remember jacking up roll those days? lol. But, just like in shawshank redemption, you have broken free. Never forget where you were 400 days ago. Because, we won't ever go through that a grin by keeping our word one day at a time.

Congratulations Ryan. And thank you.
awesome on 4 bills keep you head up this was a good read proud of you IG2H!!
Awesome job IG2H. Well done.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Morgan1 on February 09, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
Quote from: GDubya
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: nickald
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: srans
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Very well done indeed!
Yes ! Ryan is the man! Great job bro. You are inspiring. I appreciate your example.
Slow clap
400 days ago you and I were just beginning a journey that neither of us was anticipating. We both knew we needed to quit. We were both weak and very fucked up. You and a handful of others helped drag me along kicking and yelling, and together one day at a time things slowly got better. And better.

There are people reading this that are saying bullshit. It won't ever get better. This hell that I am in won't ever improve. Well... It does. It took you a while to get to this point, Ryan. I remember us talking around 300 when you were headed out to the deer stands and you were a nervous wreck. Remember jacking up roll those days? lol. But, just like in shawshank redemption, you have broken free. Never forget where you were 400 days ago. Because, we won't ever go through that a grin by keeping our word one day at a time.

Congratulations Ryan. And thank you.
awesome on 4 bills keep you head up this was a good read proud of you IG2H!!
Awesome job IG2H. Well done.
Great 400 Bro! You're a kick ass quitter and an asset to the site. You've helped me and vice versa along the way. Too bad we never hooked up that time in Michigan but I'll be back. Hahaha. Rock on bro.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on February 10, 2014, 11:00:00 AM
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400 days.  WOW!  I am truly beside myself.  I love this quitting shit.
 
Many years ago I thought “I can quit anytime I want”.  A few decades later, after thousands of discarded partially used tins, I thought, “I am never going to get away from this shit”.  “It is too hard”.  “I cannot quit”.  “It is just this one vice, it’s OK”.  And so on and so on.  Well it wasn’t OK.  Nicotine is a liar and a thief.  I have grown closer to my wife and my kids in these last 400 days than I could have ever imagined.  I did not realize the degree to which my addiction was a barrier to my happiness.  It made me so selfish.  Wish I had quit sooner.  But that is the past.
 
I sat next to a guy at my son’s basketball game yesterday.  He was a dad from the opposing team.  He had a mega wad of Grizzly wintergreen in the whole game, and……………….. he was not spitting.  YUCK!  I saw him pack it in the parking lot and damn it if he didn’t sit right down next to me.  I remember being that guy.

I reminisced. 

I remembered the pain.
 
I remembered the shame.
  
I remembered the deceit.
 
I remembered the hopelessness and the emptiness.
 
I remembered the defeat and failed quits.
 
I could never use enough to feel like I didn’t want more.  And so it is with addiction
. 
For months and months after quitting I used to envy people when I watched them use nicotine.  I remember longing for it as I watched them.  Those feelings of envy and longing are now DEAD to me.  Now I feel only pity for those people.

I feel thankful to be free today.  There are days when I think I am done with this site.  As if the site served its purpose and now I am “truly free”.

Lies!!  Those thoughts are dangerous.  Addiction is forever.  I know this.  I am vulnerable.  I am human.  I need support.  I need reminders.  I need tools.  I need all of you.  And I am OK with that.
 
I told this guy, (above) about KTC.  I told him that if he ever wants to be free, it can be done.  He told me to fuck off.  And I am OK with that.  You never know the power of your words though, and of your example.  Mighty oak trees begin as tiny acorns.  You never know.

Here is my roll post for today.  IG2H.  400. No nicotine today.  I leave you with these words from a wise quitter.  I feel compelled to pull this one out and re-read it today.  Thank you Skoal Monster.  This particular post changed my life and gave my quit a fighting chance.  I hope I can do the same for someone else someday.


SKOAL MONSTER:
Wisdom I have accepted

This shit is forever. It's a scar that will fade, but never heal. I will always be an addict. I fully expect to crave a dip while I'm laying in my death bed, and I'm going to fucking smile, because I still won't give in.

If I forget addiction is forever, I'll eventually cave. Of that I am certain.

The number of days I have accumulated has nothing to do with the strength of my quit. That strength comes from understanding the addiction, and from the strength of my promise.

The only day of any importance is today. Today I will be quit. I always swore I'd quit tomorrow, Tomorrow never seemed to come. When Quitting I do it today. Tomorrow is a dream, the past a memory, I can only control now, and right now I'm choosing quit.

The memory of how bad I truly wanted to quit is stronger than my desire to start again. I hold that memory close, it's a shield against my own bullshit.

Chewing a neurotoxic weed that hi-jacked my bodies feel good chemical producing ability never did anything positive for me. It was never a crutch, just an anchor.

It's a decision, so simple and yet so hard. But thats all it is. A choice. I made that choice, and now I will live with it.

The daily decision to quit becomes easier and easier as time passes. But that doesn't mean I'm cured. Remember, this shit is forever.

The hardest part of quitting is the first step. It was the day you REALLY decided to try. That day took me years to get to. It is so much easier to stay quit than to decide to quit. Don't throw that away, you may never get here again.

When you think about giving in, think about what it took to get here. Your about to throw all that away. You don't take one step back. You physically and neurologically start from zero. This isn't cheating on a diet, it's all in everyday. There truly is no just one.

All that being said, I still come here to remind myself I am an addict. I come here to try to help guide who I can through the door. I can't save anybody but me, but I can shine a light on the path. I strongly encourage you to stick around, The HOF is a milestone, not a destination. There is no cure and you will not ride a rainbow unicorn on day 101. The funk will hit you again, but with less power and more and more time in between. Most days I never think about any of this. Most days I don't even think about dipping or smoking. Sometimes months go by without even a passing urge. You'd trade me hard cash to feel this kind of quit. All you gotta do is keep putting up plus ones and you'll get here. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was, and kick yourself for not doing it sooner. But don't ever forget the price you paid to get to that point, and don't ever believe that you are cured. As much as it sucks, addiction is forever.”
Excellent post. Thank you and congrats on your 400 days!
Congratulations got 2.
Awesome! Excellent!
Congrats on 400.
Congratulations you deserve to soak it in. Your posts frequently impact others in ways you prod ably don't see- I know because I get a lot from them. Keep it up, and thanks for this excellent post today. I'm moved in a big way.
Well Done Sir!!!
Very well done indeed!
Yes ! Ryan is the man! Great job bro. You are inspiring. I appreciate your example.
Slow clap
400 days ago you and I were just beginning a journey that neither of us was anticipating. We both knew we needed to quit. We were both weak and very fucked up. You and a handful of others helped drag me along kicking and yelling, and together one day at a time things slowly got better. And better.

There are people reading this that are saying bullshit. It won't ever get better. This hell that I am in won't ever improve. Well... It does. It took you a while to get to this point, Ryan. I remember us talking around 300 when you were headed out to the deer stands and you were a nervous wreck. Remember jacking up roll those days? lol. But, just like in shawshank redemption, you have broken free. Never forget where you were 400 days ago. Because, we won't ever go through that a grin by keeping our word one day at a time.

Congratulations Ryan. And thank you.
awesome on 4 bills keep you head up this was a good read proud of you IG2H!!
Awesome job IG2H. Well done.
Great 400 Bro! You're a kick ass quitter and an asset to the site. You've helped me and vice versa along the way. Too bad we never hooked up that time in Michigan but I'll be back. Hahaha. Rock on bro.
Congrats my friend
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 17, 2014, 09:51:00 PM
437 days

Felt pretty good about hitting 400 the other day and then all of a sudden, WHAM!!

Cravings like crazy. Mind games. I even had a drunken, reminiscing, self loathing pity fest one evening. For a few minutes I thought about indulging and just posting up a day one. A few weeks ago I was walking around a hunting expo and day dreaming about dip. One of my best quit friends gave me a good kick in the balls and I got a grip on it and survived the night but it was an adventure nonetheless.

It is strange how a perfect storm of things can make one turn back toward addiction for some feeling of comfort or longing for normalcy. However false that comfort might be. I guess I will blame this weirdness on stress. And perhaps the change of seasons. There is just something about the smell of spring, the warm air and the longer days that triggers something in my head. I have caught myself indulging in thoughts such as, "damn some grizzly wintergreen sounds good". WTF, am I not beyond this? I am really this weak? Could I really fail now?

And then I realize these feelings for what they are.............BULLSHIT. Thank God for this place, thank god for these people. I have come to understand the truth about addiction. It is forever. Nicotine will continue to beckon me. The nic bitch will whisper every now and then, "come back to me Ryan, I can help you, remember me". I will continue to use these tools that I have learned. They are polished and razor sharp. I am getting pretty damn good at this quitting shit. It all comes down to honesty. Addicts can be experts in the art of rationalization. I did it for decades. No mas. I have to call it like I see it now. No lies.

I guess I am thankful for these reminders. As the battles have now become so much easier it makes it easy to forget I am still at war. I see how complacency can set in and make me vulnerable. These reminders give me strength. I look forward to the anniversary of my HOF in a couple weeks. Cant believe it has been almost a year since then. I am so fucking proud of myself. Is that wrong? There were times in my life when I thought I could NEVER get away from dipping. It is amazing what one can accomplish when they put their mind to it. Through in a little dose of brotherhood and accountability and BAM you have yourself a quitter. Never again for any reason.

Quit on friends, quit on.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on March 17, 2014, 10:25:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
437 days

Felt pretty good about hitting 400 the other day and then all of a sudden, WHAM!!

Cravings like crazy. Mind games. I even had a drunken, reminiscing, self loathing pity fest one evening. For a few minutes I thought about indulging and just posting up a day one. A few weeks ago I was walking around a hunting expo and day dreaming about dip. One of my best quit friends gave me a good kick in the balls and I got a grip on it and survived the night but it was an adventure nonetheless.

It is strange how a perfect storm of things can make one turn back toward addiction for some feeling of comfort or longing for normalcy. However false that comfort might be. I guess I will blame this weirdness on stress. And perhaps the change of seasons. There is just something about the smell of spring, the warm air and the longer days that triggers something in my head. I have caught myself indulging in thoughts such as, "damn some grizzly wintergreen sounds good". WTF, am I not beyond this? I am really this weak? Could I really fail now?

And then I realize these feelings for what they are.............BULLSHIT. Thank God for this place, thank god for these people. I have come to understand the truth about addiction. It is forever. Nicotine will continue to beckon me. The nic bitch will whisper every now and then, "come back to me Ryan, I can help you, remember me". I will continue to use these tools that I have learned. They are polished and razor sharp. I am getting pretty damn good at this quitting shit. It all comes down to honesty. Addicts can be experts in the art of rationalization. I did it for decades. No mas. I have to call it like I see it now. No lies.

I guess I am thankful for these reminders. As the battles have now become so much easier it makes it easy to forget I am still at war. I see how complacency can set in and make me vulnerable. These reminders give me strength. I look forward to the anniversary of my HOF in a couple weeks. Cant believe it has been almost a year since then. I am so fucking proud of myself. Is that wrong? There were times in my life when I thought I could NEVER get away from dipping. It is amazing what one can accomplish when they put their mind to it. Through in a little dose of brotherhood and accountability and BAM you have yourself a quitter. Never again for any reason.

Quit on friends, quit on.
War. You know... I went to the ww1 museum here in kc a few weeks ago. Most of the people there were "old timers." Not ww1 obviously, but nearing 80. Many had on military hats or jackets. They were very quiet, somber, and holding back emotion. But... They were proud! I talked to several of them and thanked them for their service.

Same deal here. We will always wear evidence of this addiction. It is part of us, Ryan. We have fought long and hard, together, to get to this place. And once in a while , just as memories that these soldiers were having elicited an emotion, we should expect the same. These memories help remind us of the bullshit place we were in and are great motivators. A place we will never go back to if we post roll first thing every day and are men of integrity.

I'm really proud to be on the fog cutters team. Tough times never last. Tough people do. You've hot this, Ryan. One day at a time. See you on the roll again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jake frawley on March 17, 2014, 11:04:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
437 days

Felt pretty good about hitting 400 the other day and then all of a sudden, WHAM!!

Cravings like crazy.  Mind games.  I even had a drunken, reminiscing, self loathing pity fest one evening.  For a few minutes I thought about indulging and just posting up a day one.  A few weeks ago I was walking around a hunting expo and day dreaming about dip.  One of my best quit friends gave me a good kick in the balls and I got a grip on it and survived the night but it was an adventure nonetheless.

It is strange how a perfect storm of things can make one turn back toward addiction for some feeling of comfort or longing for normalcy.  However false that comfort might be.  I guess I will blame this weirdness on stress.  And perhaps the change of seasons.  There is just something about the smell of spring, the warm air and the longer days that triggers something in my head.  I have caught myself indulging in thoughts such as, "damn some grizzly wintergreen sounds good".  WTF, am I not beyond this?  I am really this weak?  Could I really fail now?

And then I realize these feelings for what they are.............BULLSHIT.  Thank God for this place, thank god for these people.  I have come to understand the truth about addiction.  It is forever.  Nicotine will continue to beckon me.  The nic bitch will whisper every now and then, "come back to me Ryan, I can help you, remember me".  I will continue to use these tools that I have learned.  They are polished and razor sharp.  I am getting pretty damn good at this quitting shit.  It all comes down to honesty.  Addicts can be experts in the art of rationalization.  I did it for decades.  No mas.  I have to call it like I see it now.  No lies.

I guess I am thankful for these reminders.  As the battles have now become so much easier it makes it easy to forget I am still at war.  I see how complacency can set in and make me vulnerable.  These reminders give me strength.  I look forward to the anniversary of my HOF in a couple weeks.  Cant believe it has been almost a year since then.  I am so fucking proud of myself.  Is that wrong?  There were times in my life when I thought I could NEVER get away from dipping.  It is amazing what one can accomplish when they put their mind to it.  Through in a little dose of brotherhood and accountability and BAM you have yourself a quitter.  Never again for any reason.

Quit on friends, quit on.
War. You know... I went to the ww1 museum here in kc a few weeks ago. Most of the people there were "old timers." Not ww1 obviously, but nearing 80. Many had on military hats or jackets. They were very quiet, somber, and holding back emotion. But... They were proud! I talked to several of them and thanked them for their service.

Same deal here. We will always wear evidence of this addiction. It is part of us, Ryan. We have fought long and hard, together, to get to this place. And once in a while , just as memories that these soldiers were having elicited an emotion, we should expect the same. These memories help remind us of the bullshit place we were in and are great motivators. A place we will never go back to if we post roll first thing every day and are men of integrity.

I'm really proud to be on the fog cutters team. Tough times never last. Tough people do. You've hot this, Ryan. One day at a time. See you on the roll again tomorrow.
You both are BAD ASS men who I personally pay a lot of attention too. Quit on and always remember the shit you fought through. Trust me...... The negative feeling after the dip is far worse then any twisted joy that can be attained. Your intelligence and integrity shows in your +1's. Focus on the freedom you have earned.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: MonsterMedic on March 18, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: jake
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
437 days

Felt pretty good about hitting 400 the other day and then all of a sudden, WHAM!!

Cravings like crazy.  Mind games.  I even had a drunken, reminiscing, self loathing pity fest one evening.  For a few minutes I thought about indulging and just posting up a day one.  A few weeks ago I was walking around a hunting expo and day dreaming about dip.  One of my best quit friends gave me a good kick in the balls and I got a grip on it and survived the night but it was an adventure nonetheless.

It is strange how a perfect storm of things can make one turn back toward addiction for some feeling of comfort or longing for normalcy.  However false that comfort might be.  I guess I will blame this weirdness on stress.  And perhaps the change of seasons.  There is just something about the smell of spring, the warm air and the longer days that triggers something in my head.  I have caught myself indulging in thoughts such as, "damn some grizzly wintergreen sounds good".  WTF, am I not beyond this?  I am really this weak?  Could I really fail now?

And then I realize these feelings for what they are.............BULLSHIT.  Thank God for this place, thank god for these people.  I have come to understand the truth about addiction.  It is forever.  Nicotine will continue to beckon me.  The nic bitch will whisper every now and then, "come back to me Ryan, I can help you, remember me".  I will continue to use these tools that I have learned.  They are polished and razor sharp.  I am getting pretty damn good at this quitting shit.  It all comes down to honesty.  Addicts can be experts in the art of rationalization.  I did it for decades.  No mas.  I have to call it like I see it now.  No lies.

I guess I am thankful for these reminders.  As the battles have now become so much easier it makes it easy to forget I am still at war.  I see how complacency can set in and make me vulnerable.  These reminders give me strength.  I look forward to the anniversary of my HOF in a couple weeks.  Cant believe it has been almost a year since then.  I am so fucking proud of myself.  Is that wrong?  There were times in my life when I thought I could NEVER get away from dipping.  It is amazing what one can accomplish when they put their mind to it.  Through in a little dose of brotherhood and accountability and BAM you have yourself a quitter.  Never again for any reason.

Quit on friends, quit on.
War. You know... I went to the ww1 museum here in kc a few weeks ago. Most of the people there were "old timers." Not ww1 obviously, but nearing 80. Many had on military hats or jackets. They were very quiet, somber, and holding back emotion. But... They were proud! I talked to several of them and thanked them for their service.

Same deal here. We will always wear evidence of this addiction. It is part of us, Ryan. We have fought long and hard, together, to get to this place. And once in a while , just as memories that these soldiers were having elicited an emotion, we should expect the same. These memories help remind us of the bullshit place we were in and are great motivators. A place we will never go back to if we post roll first thing every day and are men of integrity.

I'm really proud to be on the fog cutters team. Tough times never last. Tough people do. You've hot this, Ryan. One day at a time. See you on the roll again tomorrow.
You both are BAD ASS men who I personally pay a lot of attention too. Quit on and always remember the shit you fought through. Trust me...... The negative feeling after the dip is far worse then any twisted joy that can be attained. Your intelligence and integrity shows in your +1's. Focus on the freedom you have earned.
Agreed with Jake. Keep pressing on. You're one of several that I follow to keep me quit.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on March 18, 2014, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: MonsterEMT
Quote from: jake
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
437 days

Felt pretty good about hitting 400 the other day and then all of a sudden, WHAM!!

Cravings like crazy.  Mind games.  I even had a drunken, reminiscing, self loathing pity fest one evening.  For a few minutes I thought about indulging and just posting up a day one.  A few weeks ago I was walking around a hunting expo and day dreaming about dip.  One of my best quit friends gave me a good kick in the balls and I got a grip on it and survived the night but it was an adventure nonetheless.

It is strange how a perfect storm of things can make one turn back toward addiction for some feeling of comfort or longing for normalcy.  However false that comfort might be.  I guess I will blame this weirdness on stress.  And perhaps the change of seasons.  There is just something about the smell of spring, the warm air and the longer days that triggers something in my head.  I have caught myself indulging in thoughts such as, "damn some grizzly wintergreen sounds good".  WTF, am I not beyond this?  I am really this weak?  Could I really fail now?

And then I realize these feelings for what they are.............BULLSHIT.  Thank God for this place, thank god for these people.  I have come to understand the truth about addiction.  It is forever.  Nicotine will continue to beckon me.  The nic bitch will whisper every now and then, "come back to me Ryan, I can help you, remember me".  I will continue to use these tools that I have learned.  They are polished and razor sharp.  I am getting pretty damn good at this quitting shit.  It all comes down to honesty.  Addicts can be experts in the art of rationalization.  I did it for decades.  No mas.  I have to call it like I see it now.  No lies.

I guess I am thankful for these reminders.  As the battles have now become so much easier it makes it easy to forget I am still at war.  I see how complacency can set in and make me vulnerable.  These reminders give me strength.  I look forward to the anniversary of my HOF in a couple weeks.  Cant believe it has been almost a year since then.  I am so fucking proud of myself.  Is that wrong?  There were times in my life when I thought I could NEVER get away from dipping.  It is amazing what one can accomplish when they put their mind to it.  Through in a little dose of brotherhood and accountability and BAM you have yourself a quitter.  Never again for any reason.

Quit on friends, quit on.
War. You know... I went to the ww1 museum here in kc a few weeks ago. Most of the people there were "old timers." Not ww1 obviously, but nearing 80. Many had on military hats or jackets. They were very quiet, somber, and holding back emotion. But... They were proud! I talked to several of them and thanked them for their service.

Same deal here. We will always wear evidence of this addiction. It is part of us, Ryan. We have fought long and hard, together, to get to this place. And once in a while , just as memories that these soldiers were having elicited an emotion, we should expect the same. These memories help remind us of the bullshit place we were in and are great motivators. A place we will never go back to if we post roll first thing every day and are men of integrity.

I'm really proud to be on the fog cutters team. Tough times never last. Tough people do. You've hot this, Ryan. One day at a time. See you on the roll again tomorrow.
You both are BAD ASS men who I personally pay a lot of attention too. Quit on and always remember the shit you fought through. Trust me...... The negative feeling after the dip is far worse then any twisted joy that can be attained. Your intelligence and integrity shows in your +1's. Focus on the freedom you have earned.
Agreed with Jake. Keep pressing on. You're one of several that I follow to keep me quit.
The difference now when we have the craves....We have a choice. You can choose to say, "no". What a great feeling. That's bad ass. Even in a perfect storm, you stay quit.

Nicotine can kiss it! 'Finger'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 22, 2014, 05:46:00 AM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: MonsterEMT
Quote from: jake
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
437 days

Felt pretty good about hitting 400 the other day and then all of a sudden, WHAM!!

Cravings like crazy.  Mind games.  I even had a drunken, reminiscing, self loathing pity fest one evening.  For a few minutes I thought about indulging and just posting up a day one.  A few weeks ago I was walking around a hunting expo and day dreaming about dip.  One of my best quit friends gave me a good kick in the balls and I got a grip on it and survived the night but it was an adventure nonetheless.

It is strange how a perfect storm of things can make one turn back toward addiction for some feeling of comfort or longing for normalcy.  However false that comfort might be.  I guess I will blame this weirdness on stress.  And perhaps the change of seasons.  There is just something about the smell of spring, the warm air and the longer days that triggers something in my head.  I have caught myself indulging in thoughts such as, "damn some grizzly wintergreen sounds good".  WTF, am I not beyond this?  I am really this weak?  Could I really fail now?

And then I realize these feelings for what they are.............BULLSHIT.  Thank God for this place, thank god for these people.  I have come to understand the truth about addiction.  It is forever.  Nicotine will continue to beckon me.  The nic bitch will whisper every now and then, "come back to me Ryan, I can help you, remember me".  I will continue to use these tools that I have learned.  They are polished and razor sharp.  I am getting pretty damn good at this quitting shit.  It all comes down to honesty.  Addicts can be experts in the art of rationalization.  I did it for decades.  No mas.  I have to call it like I see it now.  No lies.

I guess I am thankful for these reminders.  As the battles have now become so much easier it makes it easy to forget I am still at war.  I see how complacency can set in and make me vulnerable.  These reminders give me strength.  I look forward to the anniversary of my HOF in a couple weeks.  Cant believe it has been almost a year since then.  I am so fucking proud of myself.  Is that wrong?  There were times in my life when I thought I could NEVER get away from dipping.  It is amazing what one can accomplish when they put their mind to it.  Through in a little dose of brotherhood and accountability and BAM you have yourself a quitter.  Never again for any reason.

Quit on friends, quit on.
War. You know... I went to the ww1 museum here in kc a few weeks ago. Most of the people there were "old timers."  Not ww1 obviously, but nearing 80. Many had on military hats or jackets. They were very quiet, somber, and holding back emotion. But... They were proud! I talked to several of them and thanked them for their service.

Same deal here. We will always wear evidence of this addiction. It is part of us, Ryan. We have fought long and hard, together, to get to this place. And once in a while , just as memories that these soldiers were having elicited an emotion, we should expect the same. These memories help remind us of the bullshit place we were in and are great motivators. A place we will never go back to if we post roll first thing every day and are men of integrity.

I'm really proud to be on the fog cutters team. Tough times never last. Tough people do. You've hot this, Ryan. One day at a time. See you on the roll again tomorrow.
You both are BAD ASS men who I personally pay a lot of attention too. Quit on and always remember the shit you fought through. Trust me...... The negative feeling after the dip is far worse then any twisted joy that can be attained. Your intelligence and integrity shows in your +1's. Focus on the freedom you have earned.
Agreed with Jake. Keep pressing on. You're one of several that I follow to keep me quit.
The difference now when we have the craves....We have a choice. You can choose to say, "no". What a great feeling. That's bad ass. Even in a perfect storm, you stay quit.

Nicotine can kiss it! 'Finger'
Going thru a time that seems like it would be easier if I still used nicotine. I cannot believe these thoughts persist.

It really doesn't matter though. I am no longer a product of my thoughts. Nor am I a product of my desires. I can now accept those thoughts and desires for what they are, and then move forward. Nicotine would help nothing. I know this. Thanks for all the texts last night. That was amazing.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on March 22, 2014, 08:27:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: MonsterEMT
Quote from: jake
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
437 days

Felt pretty good about hitting 400 the other day and then all of a sudden, WHAM!!

Cravings like crazy.� Mind games.� I even had a drunken, reminiscing, self loathing pity fest one evening.� For a few minutes I thought about indulging and just posting up a day one.� A few weeks ago I was walking around a hunting expo and day dreaming about dip.� One of my best quit friends gave me a good kick in the balls and I got a grip on it and survived the night but it was an adventure nonetheless.

It is strange how a perfect storm of things can make one turn back toward addiction for some feeling of comfort or longing for normalcy.� However false that comfort might be.� I guess I will blame this weirdness on stress.� And perhaps the change of seasons.� There is just something about the smell of spring, the warm air and the longer days that triggers something in my head.� I have caught myself indulging in thoughts such as, "damn some grizzly wintergreen sounds good".� WTF, am I not beyond this?� I am really this weak?� Could I really fail now?

And then I realize these feelings for what they are.............BULLSHIT.� Thank God for this place, thank god for these people.� I have come to understand the truth about addiction.� It is forever.� Nicotine will continue to beckon me.� The nic bitch will whisper every now and then, "come back to me Ryan, I can help you, remember me".� I will continue to use these tools that I have learned.� They are polished and razor sharp.� I am getting pretty damn good at this quitting shit.� It all comes down to honesty.� Addicts can be experts in the art of rationalization.� I did it for decades.� No mas.� I have to call it like I see it now.� No lies.

I guess I am thankful for these reminders.� As the battles have now become so much easier it makes it easy to forget I am still at war.� I see how complacency can set in and make me vulnerable.� These reminders give me strength.� I look forward to the anniversary of my HOF in a couple weeks.� Cant believe it has been almost a year since then.� I am so fucking proud of myself.� Is that wrong?� There were times in my life when I thought I could NEVER get away from dipping.� It is amazing what one can accomplish when they put their mind to it.� Through in a little dose of brotherhood and accountability and BAM you have yourself a quitter.� Never again for any reason.

Quit on friends, quit on.
War. You know... I went to the ww1 museum here in kc a few weeks ago. Most of the people there were "old timers." Not ww1 obviously, but nearing 80. Many had on military hats or jackets. They were very quiet, somber, and holding back emotion. But... They were proud! I talked to several of them and thanked them for their service.

Same deal here. We will always wear evidence of this addiction. It is part of us, Ryan. We have fought long and hard, together, to get to this place. And once in a while , just as memories that these soldiers were having elicited an emotion, we should expect the same. These memories help remind us of the bullshit place we were in and are great motivators. A place we will never go back to if we post roll first thing every day and are men of integrity.

I'm really proud to be on the fog cutters team. Tough times never last. Tough people do. You've hot this, Ryan. One day at a time. See you on the roll again tomorrow.
You both are BAD ASS men who I personally pay a lot of attention too. Quit on and always remember the shit you fought through. Trust me...... The negative feeling after the dip is far worse then any twisted joy that can be attained. Your intelligence and integrity shows in your +1's. Focus on the freedom you have earned.
Agreed with Jake. Keep pressing on. You're one of several that I follow to keep me quit.
The difference now when we have the craves....We have a choice. You can choose to say, "no". What a great feeling. That's bad ass. Even in a perfect storm, you stay quit.

Nicotine can kiss it! 'Finger'
Going thru a time that seems like it would be easier if I still used nicotine. I cannot believe these thoughts persist.

It really doesn't matter though. I am no longer a product of my thoughts. Nor am I a product of my desires. I can now accept those thoughts and desires for what they are, and then move forward. Nicotine would help nothing. I know this. Thanks for all the texts last night. That was amazing.
I'm with you got2. The last two weeks i had the same thoughts. Last week was probably my most trying since quit. I'm actually a little relieved that last week didn't happen a year ago. I always say, i've seen people lose wives, lives, jobs and just about anything else and stay quit. Last week it was my time in the fire. Things have improved mentally for me this last week, but things will not be the same for while, if ever. I know that the poison wouldn't change any of that for the better. Life happens!!

We know what that life was like. We know what we had to go through to get where we are. I posted up and am quit with you today my friend. You use them digits if you need to. Quit with you any day.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 06, 2014, 07:32:00 PM
457 days quit. Cruising through my second spring without the poison. Kicking ass and taking names. Things are different. Things are better. Can't believe HOF was almost one year ago. Most days I hardly even think of dipping at all.

No more rancid spitters.
No more sitting in my truck alone at lunch time.
No more hiding from wife in the garage until all hours.
No more lying to my kids and hiding.
No more scraping white shit off my cheek each Monday morning after a weekend of heavy use.
No more lying to myself and when I am gonna quit for good.
No more blowing 8 bucks/day on those nasty death cans.
No more pointless long drives.
No more rushing through kids bed time routine and reading Berenstein Bear books at warp speed.
No more fear of going to the dentist.
No more staying up 30 minutes later than my wife just to get that last one in.
I could go on and on.

Everything is different now. Everything is better now. QLF, one day at a time.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on April 07, 2014, 05:47:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
457 days quit. Cruising through my second spring without the poison. Kicking ass and taking names. Things are different. Things are better. Can't believe HOF was almost one year ago. Most days I hardly even think of dipping at all.

No more rancid spitters.
No more sitting in my truck alone at lunch time.
No more hiding from wife in the garage until all hours.
No more lying to my kids and hiding.
No more scraping white shit off my cheek each Monday morning after a weekend of heavy use.
No more lying to myself and when I am gonna quit for good.
No more blowing 8 bucks/day on those nasty death cans.
No more pointless long drives.
No more rushing through kids bed time routine and reading Berenstein Bear books at warp speed.
No more fear of going to the dentist.
No more staying up 30 minutes later than my wife just to get that last one in.
I could go on and on.

Everything is different now. Everything is better now. QLF, one day at a time.

Ryan
It's really kind of amazing how something that seemed so hard... Impossible... Is now not only possible, but normal. Easy? Life isn't easy... But there is a point where quitting is no longer a struggle. It is part of the day. Not the balls slamming in the drawer routine, but just a normal part of the day.

Actually, an enjoyable part of the day!!! After 20 years of losing... Day after day after day after day... Years of promising "this is it" only to fail again and again and again... And throwing away $8 * 365 * 20 on poisonous plant... Damn it feels good to win! The little struggles here and there are now reminders of the consistent wins that you are enjoying on an endeavor that not so long ago seemed hopeless.

I hope a new quitter reads the first few posts on this thread and then the last one. It is so worth the fight.

Well done Ryan.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on April 07, 2014, 07:18:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
457 days quit.  Cruising through my second spring without the poison.  Kicking ass and taking names.  Things are different.  Things are better.  Can't believe HOF was almost one year ago.  Most days I hardly even think of dipping at all. 

No more rancid spitters.
No more sitting in my truck alone at lunch time.
No more hiding from wife in the garage until all hours.
No more lying to my kids and hiding. 
No more scraping white shit off my cheek each Monday morning after a weekend of heavy use.
No more lying to myself and when I am gonna quit for good.
No more blowing 8 bucks/day on those nasty death cans.
No more pointless long drives.
No more rushing through kids bed time routine and reading Berenstein Bear books at warp speed.
No more fear of going to the dentist.
No more staying up 30 minutes later than my wife just to get that last one in.
I could go on and on.

Everything is different now.  Everything is better now.  QLF, one day at a time.

Ryan
It's really kind of amazing how something that seemed so hard... Impossible... Is now not only possible, but normal. Easy? Life isn't easy... But there is a point where quitting is no longer a struggle. It is part of the day. Not the balls slamming in the drawer routine, but just a normal part of the day.

Actually, an enjoyable part of the day!!! After 20 years of losing... Day after day after day after day... Years of promising "this is it" only to fail again and again and again... And throwing away $8 * 365 * 20 on poisonous plant... Damn it feels good to win! The little struggles here and there are now reminders of the consistent wins that you are enjoying on an endeavor that not so long ago seemed hopeless.

I hope a new quitter reads the first few posts on this thread and then the last one. It is so worth the fight.

Well done Ryan.
As i read these posts from two of the guys that started here a little before me i think of the circle of quit. I've not been posting as much lately, but last year at this time we were waging war. You can read intro after intro here and see that same war we had begun and how hard we fought daily. Now you can read this intro and see that the battle after time gets easier and easier.

If your discouraged and the emotional rollercoaster has wore you down read this intro from the beginning until now. Read other intros like worktowins or myself. Read our hof speaches. Read erussell's, and traumas's, intro. There are a lot more and if you read these you will see those. The circle of quit had just begun for us.

These are a few that stick out at me right now. A year ago we were battling like a lot of you are now.

Just know it gets easier. We no longer have to struggle just to make it to the end of the day to remain quit. We begin the day by posting roll and at the end of the day we are still quit. We may fight an occasional crave, but for the most part the day is just that. QUIT!

i end with this. Post roll, keep your word all day. Wake up and repeat. It's worth it, read this and believe it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jake frawley on April 07, 2014, 07:31:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
457 days quit.  Cruising through my second spring without the poison.  Kicking ass and taking names.  Things are different.  Things are better.  Can't believe HOF was almost one year ago.  Most days I hardly even think of dipping at all. 

No more rancid spitters.
No more sitting in my truck alone at lunch time.
No more hiding from wife in the garage until all hours.
No more lying to my kids and hiding. 
No more scraping white shit off my cheek each Monday morning after a weekend of heavy use.
No more lying to myself and when I am gonna quit for good.
No more blowing 8 bucks/day on those nasty death cans.
No more pointless long drives.
No more rushing through kids bed time routine and reading Berenstein Bear books at warp speed.
No more fear of going to the dentist.
No more staying up 30 minutes later than my wife just to get that last one in.
I could go on and on.

Everything is different now.  Everything is better now.  QLF, one day at a time.

Ryan
It's really kind of amazing how something that seemed so hard... Impossible... Is now not only possible, but normal. Easy? Life isn't easy... But there is a point where quitting is no longer a struggle. It is part of the day. Not the balls slamming in the drawer routine, but just a normal part of the day.

Actually, an enjoyable part of the day!!! After 20 years of losing... Day after day after day after day... Years of promising "this is it" only to fail again and again and again... And throwing away $8 * 365 * 20 on poisonous plant... Damn it feels good to win! The little struggles here and there are now reminders of the consistent wins that you are enjoying on an endeavor that not so long ago seemed hopeless.

I hope a new quitter reads the first few posts on this thread and then the last one. It is so worth the fight.

Well done Ryan.
As i read these posts from two of the guys that started here a little before me i think of the circle of quit. I've not been posting as much lately, but last year at this time we were waging war. You can read intro after intro here and see that same war we had begun and how hard we fought daily. Now you can read this intro and see that the battle after time gets easier and easier.

If your discouraged and the emotional rollercoaster has wore you down read this intro from the beginning until now. Read other intros like worktowins or myself. Read our hof speaches. Read erussell's, and traumas's, intro. There are a lot more and if you read these you will see those. The circle of quit had just begun for us.

These are a few that stick out at me right now. A year ago we were battling like a lot of you are now.

Just know it gets easier. We no longer have to struggle just to make it to the end of the day to remain quit. We begin the day by posting roll and at the end of the day we are still quit. We may fight an occasional crave, but for the most part the day is just that. QUIT!

i end with this. Post roll, keep your word all day. Wake up and repeat. It's worth it, read this and believe it.
If these 3 ^^^^^^^^^ say it, Its gospel! Power house quitters right here! Glad you guys stay here and lead. Thank you!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 19, 2014, 05:25:00 AM
500 days without nicotine.

On a daily basis I have no cravings whatsoever.

New quitters, stay the course. It gets so much easier.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Done4Me on May 19, 2014, 06:28:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
500 days without nicotine.

On a daily basis I have no cravings whatsoever.

New quitters, stay the course. It gets so much easier.
500 seems so far out there at 15 days. But I gotta say I feel much better at 15 days than 3. I know one day at a time. For a new guy, a half comma is stratosphere material. Congrats.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on May 19, 2014, 07:45:00 AM
Quote from: Done4Me
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
500 days without nicotine.

On a daily basis I have no cravings whatsoever.

New quitters, stay the course. It gets so much easier.
500 seems so far out there at 15 days. But I gotta say I feel much better at 15 days than 3. I know one day at a time. For a new guy, a half comma is stratosphere material. Congrats.
Done4Me's post is perfect. Man I remember almost being pissed at people posting numbers like 500 when I started. I mean, really... These bad asses can't be for real...

Welcome to the land of bad ass-ery, Ryan. Seems like a dream. I went back again and read your first couple of pages... And today more than ever... Nicotine can fuck off! Thanks for bringing me along... I wouldn't have made it without your help.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on May 19, 2014, 08:18:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Done4Me
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
500 days without nicotine.

On a daily basis I have no cravings whatsoever.

New quitters, stay the course. It gets so much easier.
500 seems so far out there at 15 days. But I gotta say I feel much better at 15 days than 3. I know one day at a time. For a new guy, a half comma is stratosphere material. Congrats.
Done4Me's post is perfect. Man I remember almost being pissed at people posting numbers like 500 when I started. I mean, really... These bad asses can't be for real...

Welcome to the land of bad ass-ery, Ryan. Seems like a dream. I went back again and read your first couple of pages... And today more than ever... Nicotine can fuck off! Thanks for bringing me along... I wouldn't have made it without your help.
Nice 5 hundy. Don't it feel good to be free?

Quit on....
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on May 19, 2014, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Done4Me
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
500 days without nicotine.

On a daily basis I have no cravings whatsoever.

New quitters, stay the course. It gets so much easier.
500 seems so far out there at 15 days. But I gotta say I feel much better at 15 days than 3. I know one day at a time. For a new guy, a half comma is stratosphere material. Congrats.
Done4Me's post is perfect. Man I remember almost being pissed at people posting numbers like 500 when I started. I mean, really... These bad asses can't be for real...

Welcome to the land of bad ass-ery, Ryan. Seems like a dream. I went back again and read your first couple of pages... And today more than ever... Nicotine can fuck off! Thanks for bringing me along... I wouldn't have made it without your help.
Nice 5 hundy. Don't it feel good to be free?

Quit on....
NICE 500 'oh yeah'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: brettlees on May 19, 2014, 09:38:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Done4Me
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
500 days without nicotine.

On a daily basis I have no cravings whatsoever.

New quitters, stay the course. It gets so much easier.
500 seems so far out there at 15 days. But I gotta say I feel much better at 15 days than 3. I know one day at a time. For a new guy, a half comma is stratosphere material. Congrats.
Done4Me's post is perfect. Man I remember almost being pissed at people posting numbers like 500 when I started. I mean, really... These bad asses can't be for real...

Welcome to the land of bad ass-ery, Ryan. Seems like a dream. I went back again and read your first couple of pages... And today more than ever... Nicotine can fuck off! Thanks for bringing me along... I wouldn't have made it without your help.
Nice 5 hundy. Don't it feel good to be free?

Quit on....
NICE 500 'oh yeah'
Nice 500! It's always good when you post up your insights!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Thumblewort on May 19, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
500 is amazing.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: J2b on May 19, 2014, 09:59:00 AM
Indeed, 500 is bad ass. All or most of the "trigger myths" have been debunked - seasonal, life, etc. If you havent experienced it without dip in 500 days, you know from the evidence that any thought about it being better, easier, less painful, more fun, etc with poison in your lip is a flat out a lie being told to you by a shadow of your past.

In fact, just the opposite is true. Now you can invest in the moment instead of looking ahead to that next lip full of dirt. Now you can really just be "there." I dont know how better to explain it. No more constant thinking about the next moment, or how to break free to get your fix. Your fix is whatever you are doing.

Congrats on 500, and trust me when I say it just keeps getting better.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jake frawley on May 19, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
You are a BAD ASS! Congrats on 500 bro! You have been a good example to follow. Enjoy the victory you have again today!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on May 20, 2014, 12:58:00 AM
500 is awesome, Proud to quit with you!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mich 34 on May 22, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
500 is awesome, Proud to quit with you!
502 is even better! - congrats on 1/2 a comma, not a bad start, not bad at all!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on May 23, 2014, 07:47:00 AM
Wow, half a comma! You are awesome brother! Keep killing it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 26, 2014, 09:31:00 PM
This too shall pass.

Slow and steady wins the race.

Keep your eye on the ball ladies and gentlemen. Most are here for only one purpose.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 2mch2lv4 on June 26, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
This too shall pass.

Slow and steady wins the race.

Keep your eye on the ball ladies and gentlemen. Most are here for only one purpose.

Ryan
Quit with you every damn day Ryan! :wub:
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on June 26, 2014, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: 2mch2lv4
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
This too shall pass.

Slow and steady wins the race.

Keep your eye on the ball ladies and gentlemen. Most are here for only one purpose.

Ryan
Quit with you every damn day Ryan! :wub:
It never has to happen.

You make it happen.

Proud as fuck of you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Erussell on June 26, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: 2mch2lv4
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
This too shall pass.

Slow and steady wins the race.

Keep your eye on the ball ladies and gentlemen. Most are here for only one purpose.

Ryan
Quit with you every damn day Ryan! :wub:
It never has to happen.

You make it happen.

Proud as fuck of you.
How awesome brother. Wit with you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 28, 2014, 02:54:00 PM
540 today. Oh yeah. I can smell the quit today............................... like napalm in the morning.


Newbies, stay the course. It gets soooooooooooo much better.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on June 28, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
540 today. Oh yeah. I can smell the quit today............................... like napalm in the morning.


Newbies, stay the course. It gets soooooooooooo much better.

Ryan
He does not lie. This guy fought tooth and nail at the beginning. But look what he says now

and he is not the only one.

Well done Ryan, keep it going
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 18, 2014, 05:34:00 AM
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on July 18, 2014, 07:28:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: KC_Guy on July 18, 2014, 07:45:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on July 18, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on July 18, 2014, 09:16:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Simply awesome, thanks for being such a contributor around here.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: J2b on July 18, 2014, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Simply awesome, thanks for being such a contributor around here.
agreed - IG2h is a bad ass.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on July 18, 2014, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Simply awesome, thanks for being such a contributor around here.
agreed - IG2h is a bad ass.
Of course he's a baaaad man. He's from the mitten. Good shit, bro.

Quit on...
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: J2b on July 18, 2014, 10:21:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Simply awesome, thanks for being such a contributor around here.
agreed - IG2h is a bad ass.
Of course he's a baaaad man. He's from the mitten. Good shit, bro.

Quit on...
'na na'

From the Ohio border patrol 'Remshot'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Scowick65 on July 18, 2014, 10:40:00 AM
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Simply awesome, thanks for being such a contributor around here.
agreed - IG2h is a bad ass.
Of course he's a baaaad man. He's from the mitten. Good shit, bro.

Quit on...
'na na'

From the Ohio border patrol 'Remshot'
fist pump!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Jlud007 on July 18, 2014, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Simply awesome, thanks for being such a contributor around here.
agreed - IG2h is a bad ass.
Of course he's a baaaad man. He's from the mitten. Good shit, bro.

Quit on...
'na na'

From the Ohio border patrol 'Remshot'
fist pump!
'BanDog'

I had to.. so many guys I admire right here. Proud to quit with all of you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Skoal Monster on July 18, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Nice work ItsGot2happen !!! Congrats
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on July 19, 2014, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KC_Guy
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: redtrain14
Glad you found us, welcome! There is tons of great reading here, read every single thread. Pretty entertaining as well.

This will get better, I promise.

You got this, we got your back.
Never forget day one. Thanks a lot everyone. Being quit was only a dream for so long. Now thanks to all of you it is a reality.

ItsGot2happen 560
Proud to quit with you today Ryan. This site has helped both of us do something we both thought was impossible... Quit. As an added benefit we have made friendships and improved our lives in other ways we never imagined. This posting roll is a lifelong thing for me and you I think. Why change something that works?
Congrats on 500 dude. That's some serious quitting going on. Thank you for continuing to set a fine example for all of us quitters. Great job man.
560??? Holy crap! I thought you were a grizzled vet quitter when you helped me out my first week here...
Nice work ItsGot2happen !!! Congrats
Great job youmakeithappen.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 25, 2014, 05:29:00 AM
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on July 25, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
The 500s are a great time. Feel good. Rarely think about nicotine except when I'm on ktc, and I need that reminder. The rare other times are like a reflex, which I guess after us doing something for 25 years and stopping for 1.5 years kinds makes sense, but it still pisses me off.

One thing that I, and I'm sure you, have noticed is that after HOF the only people that fail and come back to the site posting a day 1 again are the peeps that stop posting roll. No thanks. I failed every day for 25 years. You'll see my name on roll. I'm not going anywhere.

I equate posting roll to wearing a seatbelt. Remember when it became law? (Man I feel old). Everyone complained and it took years for everyone to adapt. Now it seems insane that someone would choose to not wear a seatbelt. Same with posting roll.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: 30yraddict on July 25, 2014, 08:03:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
The 500s are a great time. Feel good. Rarely think about nicotine except when I'm on ktc, and I need that reminder. The rare other times are like a reflex, which I guess after us doing something for 25 years and stopping for 1.5 years kinds makes sense, but it still pisses me off.

One thing that I, and I'm sure you, have noticed is that after HOF the only people that fail and come back to the site posting a day 1 again are the peeps that stop posting roll. No thanks. I failed every day for 25 years. You'll see my name on roll. I'm not going anywhere.

I equate posting roll to wearing a seatbelt. Remember when it became law? (Man I feel old). Everyone complained and it took years for everyone to adapt. Now it seems insane that someone would choose to not wear a seatbelt. Same with posting roll.
Some good poop right there fellas. Thanks for posting that up.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on July 25, 2014, 08:49:00 AM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
The 500s are a great time. Feel good. Rarely think about nicotine except when I'm on ktc, and I need that reminder. The rare other times are like a reflex, which I guess after us doing something for 25 years and stopping for 1.5 years kinds makes sense, but it still pisses me off.

One thing that I, and I'm sure you, have noticed is that after HOF the only people that fail and come back to the site posting a day 1 again are the peeps that stop posting roll. No thanks. I failed every day for 25 years. You'll see my name on roll. I'm not going anywhere.

I equate posting roll to wearing a seatbelt. Remember when it became law? (Man I feel old). Everyone complained and it took years for everyone to adapt. Now it seems insane that someone would choose to not wear a seatbelt. Same with posting roll.
Some good poop right there fellas. Thanks for posting that up.
Good post ryan.

I noticed after i posted roll and while I'm writing in this intro that it really hasn't taken to much of my effort. I'm still going be able to conduct business as usual today. My hands and fingers are not to tired from hitting keys on a keyboard. I am still able to drink my coffee, watch the news and take in breakfast. I'll begin my run shortly and still get to the yard work.

I too have heard excuse after excuse not to post roll, not only from others, but my own inner addict. When i hear a good excuse to believe an addict I'll let you know, but until then I'll keep posting with my friends here. It's worked for 526 days. All I've had to do is keep my word and it took time to get where I'm at. What do i mean!?!? 527 days ago my word wasn't worth spit! Now it means something! If i stop posting my word daily,,, how long before i begin listening to an addict once again. It won't be today,,, you got MY WORD!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on July 25, 2014, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
The 500s are a great time. Feel good. Rarely think about nicotine except when I'm on ktc, and I need that reminder. The rare other times are like a reflex, which I guess after us doing something for 25 years and stopping for 1.5 years kinds makes sense, but it still pisses me off.

One thing that I, and I'm sure you, have noticed is that after HOF the only people that fail and come back to the site posting a day 1 again are the peeps that stop posting roll. No thanks. I failed every day for 25 years. You'll see my name on roll. I'm not going anywhere.

I equate posting roll to wearing a seatbelt. Remember when it became law? (Man I feel old). Everyone complained and it took years for everyone to adapt. Now it seems insane that someone would choose to not wear a seatbelt. Same with posting roll.
Some good poop right there fellas. Thanks for posting that up.
Damn straight!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on July 25, 2014, 09:08:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
The 500s are a great time. Feel good. Rarely think about nicotine except when I'm on ktc, and I need that reminder. The rare other times are like a reflex, which I guess after us doing something for 25 years and stopping for 1.5 years kinds makes sense, but it still pisses me off.

One thing that I, and I'm sure you, have noticed is that after HOF the only people that fail and come back to the site posting a day 1 again are the peeps that stop posting roll. No thanks. I failed every day for 25 years. You'll see my name on roll. I'm not going anywhere.

I equate posting roll to wearing a seatbelt. Remember when it became law? (Man I feel old). Everyone complained and it took years for everyone to adapt. Now it seems insane that someone would choose to not wear a seatbelt. Same with posting roll.
Some good poop right there fellas. Thanks for posting that up.
Damn straight!
Good post ryan.

I noticed after i posted roll and while I'm writing in this intro that it really hasn't taken to much of my effort. I'm still going be able to conduct business as usual today. My hands and fingers are not to tired from hitting keys on a keyboard. I am still able to drink my coffee, watch the news and take in breakfast. I'll begin my run shortly and still get to the yard work.

I too have heard excuse after excuse not to post roll, not only from others, but my own inner addict. When i hear a good excuse to believe an addict I'll let you know, but until then I'll keep posting with my friends here. It's worked for 526 days. All I've had to do is keep my word and it took time to get where I'm at. What do i mean!?!? 527 days ago my word wasn't worth spit! Now it means something! If i stop posting my word daily,,, how long before i begin listening to an addict once again. It won't be today,,, you got MY WORD!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on July 25, 2014, 10:42:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
The 500s are a great time. Feel good. Rarely think about nicotine except when I'm on ktc, and I need that reminder. The rare other times are like a reflex, which I guess after us doing something for 25 years and stopping for 1.5 years kinds makes sense, but it still pisses me off.

One thing that I, and I'm sure you, have noticed is that after HOF the only people that fail and come back to the site posting a day 1 again are the peeps that stop posting roll. No thanks. I failed every day for 25 years. You'll see my name on roll. I'm not going anywhere.

I equate posting roll to wearing a seatbelt. Remember when it became law? (Man I feel old). Everyone complained and it took years for everyone to adapt. Now it seems insane that someone would choose to not wear a seatbelt. Same with posting roll.
Some good poop right there fellas. Thanks for posting that up.
Damn straight!
Good post ryan.

I noticed after i posted roll and while I'm writing in this intro that it really hasn't taken to much of my effort. I'm still going be able to conduct business as usual today. My hands and fingers are not to tired from hitting keys on a keyboard. I am still able to drink my coffee, watch the news and take in breakfast. I'll begin my run shortly and still get to the yard work.

I too have heard excuse after excuse not to post roll, not only from others, but my own inner addict. When i hear a good excuse to believe an addict I'll let you know, but until then I'll keep posting with my friends here. It's worked for 526 days. All I've had to do is keep my word and it took time to get where I'm at. What do i mean!?!? 527 days ago my word wasn't worth spit! Now it means something! If i stop posting my word daily,,, how long before i begin listening to an addict once again. It won't be today,,, you got MY WORD!
Day 782 you won't even have that silly thought.

28 bags?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: srans on July 25, 2014, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: srans
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
The 500s are a great time. Feel good. Rarely think about nicotine except when I'm on ktc, and I need that reminder. The rare other times are like a reflex, which I guess after us doing something for 25 years and stopping for 1.5 years kinds makes sense, but it still pisses me off.

One thing that I, and I'm sure you, have noticed is that after HOF the only people that fail and come back to the site posting a day 1 again are the peeps that stop posting roll. No thanks. I failed every day for 25 years. You'll see my name on roll. I'm not going anywhere.

I equate posting roll to wearing a seatbelt. Remember when it became law? (Man I feel old). Everyone complained and it took years for everyone to adapt. Now it seems insane that someone would choose to not wear a seatbelt. Same with posting roll.
Some good poop right there fellas. Thanks for posting that up.
Damn straight!
Good post ryan.

I noticed after i posted roll and while I'm writing in this intro that it really hasn't taken to much of my effort. I'm still going be able to conduct business as usual today. My hands and fingers are not to tired from hitting keys on a keyboard. I am still able to drink my coffee, watch the news and take in breakfast. I'll begin my run shortly and still get to the yard work.

I too have heard excuse after excuse not to post roll, not only from others, but my own inner addict. When i hear a good excuse to believe an addict I'll let you know, but until then I'll keep posting with my friends here. It's worked for 526 days. All I've had to do is keep my word and it took time to get where I'm at. What do i mean!?!? 527 days ago my word wasn't worth spit! Now it means something! If i stop posting my word daily,,, how long before i begin listening to an addict once again. It won't be today,,, you got MY WORD!
Day 782 you won't even have that silly thought.

28 bags?
One small tree and a mulcher. I'll be done in an hour and take a nap. I got some trash bags in the garage. Need them, send your address and I'll send them ups. 'winker'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on July 25, 2014, 09:12:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: srans
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I have been quit for 567 days. Is there strength in that number? Perhaps? Perhaps not though. The only day that matter is still today.

I hear a lot of talk about not needing to post roll anymore. After all I really don't crave much anymore, roll is a hassle, don't really need the site, my quit is really strong, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I hear this talk not only around here but also in my own head.

I recognize these words, (and thoughts) for what they are. That is, the whispers of the nic bitch. She doesn't care about your day count. If I were to ever step away from the site I would do so with the full knowledge that I am choosing to remove my armor. I sure don't see that happening anytime soon.


Even just yesterday for a about 2 seconds the thought of dipping crossed my mind. I thought the following,


"I am off work for the next 4 days, ahhhhh, I could get some dip, and really blaze through all this yardwork that I have to do. I could just use this weekend and pitch it again on Monday".

WTF, where do these thoughts come from at 567 days quit? If this occurred and I had not posted roll, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I not been on the site in weeks or months, I may be in trouble. If this occurred and I had somehow forgotten I was at addict, I may in trouble. Damn, I am glad I have this site and these friends who I commit to each day. This is why I am here. No more nicotine. No fucking way. It was way to much work to get here and I have too much at stake. This armor is staying on.

By the way 25 lawn bags full of yard waste. NO DIP. Just a bag of seeds. 'na na' Fuck you nicotine, I win.

Ryan
The 500s are a great time. Feel good. Rarely think about nicotine except when I'm on ktc, and I need that reminder. The rare other times are like a reflex, which I guess after us doing something for 25 years and stopping for 1.5 years kinds makes sense, but it still pisses me off.

One thing that I, and I'm sure you, have noticed is that after HOF the only people that fail and come back to the site posting a day 1 again are the peeps that stop posting roll. No thanks. I failed every day for 25 years. You'll see my name on roll. I'm not going anywhere.

I equate posting roll to wearing a seatbelt. Remember when it became law? (Man I feel old). Everyone complained and it took years for everyone to adapt. Now it seems insane that someone would choose to not wear a seatbelt. Same with posting roll.
Some good poop right there fellas. Thanks for posting that up.
Damn straight!
Good post ryan.

I noticed after i posted roll and while I'm writing in this intro that it really hasn't taken to much of my effort. I'm still going be able to conduct business as usual today. My hands and fingers are not to tired from hitting keys on a keyboard. I am still able to drink my coffee, watch the news and take in breakfast. I'll begin my run shortly and still get to the yard work.

I too have heard excuse after excuse not to post roll, not only from others, but my own inner addict. When i hear a good excuse to believe an addict I'll let you know, but until then I'll keep posting with my friends here. It's worked for 526 days. All I've had to do is keep my word and it took time to get where I'm at. What do i mean!?!? 527 days ago my word wasn't worth spit! Now it means something! If i stop posting my word daily,,, how long before i begin listening to an addict once again. It won't be today,,, you got MY WORD!
Day 782 you won't even have that silly thought.

28 bags?
Do you have a horse buried in your backyard?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 09, 2014, 10:29:00 PM
Spent a couple days at the hunting camp this weekend. Walked behind the DR field and brush mower for 6 hours, removed about 20 monster autumn olive bushes, relocated a 20 ft ladder stand, hung 2 other stands, and accomplished a bunch of other hunting related tasks. What an awesome day in the woods.

When I was through I drove over to an old friends house and spent the evening on his boat, drinking beer and talking by the bonfire. Normally on a weekend like this I would have plowed through at least a full log of grizzly wintergreen. Around 600 days ago I was fully convinced that I would never be able to do things like this without dipping. WELL I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN SO WRONG. Fuck you nicotine, I win again. 'Finger'

Newbies listen up........................ If you are new to this quitting thing, STAY THE COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It gets so much better. You do NOT need nicotine. PERIOD. I realize this now. It was never the crutch that I thought it was. It was a fucking anchor.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on August 10, 2014, 02:12:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Spent a couple days at the hunting camp this weekend. Walked behind the DR field and brush mower for 6 hours, removed about 20 monster autumn olive bushes, relocated a 20 ft ladder stand, hung 2 other stands, and accomplished a bunch of other hunting related tasks. What an awesome day in the woods.

When I was through I drove over to an old friends house and spent the evening on his boat, drinking beer and talking by the bonfire. Normally on a weekend like this I would have plowed through at least a full log of grizzly wintergreen. Around 600 days ago I was fully convinced that I would never be able to do things like this without dipping. WELL I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN SO WRONG. Fuck you nicotine, I win again. 'Finger'

Newbies listen up........................ If you are new to this quitting thing, STAY THE COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It gets so much better. You do NOT need nicotine. PERIOD. I realize this now. It was never the crutch that I thought it was. It was a fucking anchor.
Say whaaaaat?????

You CAN do all that stuff without a mouth full of shit and still enjoy it?????

Get the fuck out of here.

Seriously, take note newbies....this guy knows his shit. You want proof it gets better, here it is.

Quit on, bitches...
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on August 10, 2014, 08:06:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Spent a couple days at the hunting camp this weekend. Walked behind the DR field and brush mower for 6 hours, removed about 20 monster autumn olive bushes, relocated a 20 ft ladder stand, hung 2 other stands, and accomplished a bunch of other hunting related tasks. What an awesome day in the woods.

When I was through I drove over to an old friends house and spent the evening on his boat, drinking beer and talking by the bonfire. Normally on a weekend like this I would have plowed through at least a full log of grizzly wintergreen. Around 600 days ago I was fully convinced that I would never be able to do things like this without dipping. WELL I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN SO WRONG. Fuck you nicotine, I win again. 'Finger'

Newbies listen up........................ If you are new to this quitting thing, STAY THE COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It gets so much better. You do NOT need nicotine. PERIOD. I realize this now. It was never the crutch that I thought it was. It was a fucking anchor.
Say whaaaaat?????

You CAN do all that stuff without a mouth full of shit and still enjoy it?????

Get the fuck out of here.

Seriously, take note newbies....this guy knows his shit. You want proof it gets better, here it is.

Quit on, bitches...
Sounds like you've been busy!

Congratulations Ryan! Yesterday a guy with about 120 days under his belt was having a hard time. He doesn't think it will ever get better. He's in a funk. Hall of fame wasn't the victory day he had hoped for. He is tired of fighting and kind of hopeless.

I read his words, and I remembered your intro. The struggle. The fight. The waiting. But, always honoring your word. And now, the reward! Everyone's journey is different, but freedom tastes the same to all that have fought for it.

I hope a lot of new quitters read this start to finish, because you, better than just about anyone, told your story. From darkness to light, one day at a time.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on August 10, 2014, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Spent a couple days at the hunting camp this weekend. Walked behind the DR field and brush mower for 6 hours, removed about 20 monster autumn olive bushes, relocated a 20 ft ladder stand, hung 2 other stands, and accomplished a bunch of other hunting related tasks. What an awesome day in the woods.

When I was through I drove over to an old friends house and spent the evening on his boat, drinking beer and talking by the bonfire. Normally on a weekend like this I would have plowed through at least a full log of grizzly wintergreen. Around 600 days ago I was fully convinced that I would never be able to do things like this without dipping. WELL I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN SO WRONG. Fuck you nicotine, I win again. 'Finger'

Newbies listen up........................ If you are new to this quitting thing, STAY THE COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It gets so much better. You do NOT need nicotine. PERIOD. I realize this now. It was never the crutch that I thought it was. It was a fucking anchor.
Say whaaaaat?????

You CAN do all that stuff without a mouth full of shit and still enjoy it?????

Get the fuck out of here.

Seriously, take note newbies....this guy knows his shit. You want proof it gets better, here it is.

Quit on, bitches...
Sounds like you've been busy!

Congratulations Ryan! Yesterday a guy with about 120 days under his belt was having a hard time. He doesn't think it will ever get better. He's in a funk. Hall of fame wasn't the victory day he had hoped for. He is tired of fighting and kind of hopeless.

I read his words, and I remembered your intro. The struggle. The fight. The waiting. But, always honoring your word. And now, the reward! Everyone's journey is different, but freedom tastes the same to all that have fought for it.

I hope a lot of new quitters read this start to finish, because you, better than just about anyone, told your story. From darkness to light, one day at a time.
Awesome! Love that you are winning every day! The newbies need to know that there is hope for a better life without the poison. Keep killing it Ryan.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on August 10, 2014, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Spent a couple days at the hunting camp this weekend. Walked behind the DR field and brush mower for 6 hours, removed about 20 monster autumn olive bushes, relocated a 20 ft ladder stand, hung 2 other stands, and accomplished a bunch of other hunting related tasks. What an awesome day in the woods.

When I was through I drove over to an old friends house and spent the evening on his boat, drinking beer and talking by the bonfire. Normally on a weekend like this I would have plowed through at least a full log of grizzly wintergreen. Around 600 days ago I was fully convinced that I would never be able to do things like this without dipping. WELL I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN SO WRONG. Fuck you nicotine, I win again. 'Finger'

Newbies listen up........................ If you are new to this quitting thing, STAY THE COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It gets so much better. You do NOT need nicotine. PERIOD. I realize this now. It was never the crutch that I thought it was. It was a fucking anchor.
Say whaaaaat?????

You CAN do all that stuff without a mouth full of shit and still enjoy it?????

Get the fuck out of here.

Seriously, take note newbies....this guy knows his shit. You want proof it gets better, here it is.

Quit on, bitches...
Sounds like you've been busy!

Congratulations Ryan! Yesterday a guy with about 120 days under his belt was having a hard time. He doesn't think it will ever get better. He's in a funk. Hall of fame wasn't the victory day he had hoped for. He is tired of fighting and kind of hopeless.

I read his words, and I remembered your intro. The struggle. The fight. The waiting. But, always honoring your word. And now, the reward! Everyone's journey is different, but freedom tastes the same to all that have fought for it.

I hope a lot of new quitters read this start to finish, because you, better than just about anyone, told your story. From darkness to light, one day at a time.
Awesome! Love that you are winning every day! The newbies need to know that there is hope for a better life without the poison. Keep killing it Ryan.
Ryan, you have come a long long way, I only wish others could hang through it all and see what you do at this time.

Well done and proud to call you a member of my family.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 19, 2014, 09:49:00 PM
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: SirDerek on August 19, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on August 19, 2014, 10:02:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mich 34 on August 19, 2014, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I'm quitting with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on August 20, 2014, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I'm quitting with you today.
That blows. We are quit with you, bro.

Stay strong and realize you are doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 20, 2014, 06:13:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: mich
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit.  I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I'm quitting with you today.
That blows. We are quit with you, bro.

Stay strong and realize you are doing the right thing.
Thanks guys. What a bummer. I never sensed a true NAFAR attitude with him. I gave him the Alan Carr book that SM gave to me and he never read it.

It was great to celebrate being quit with him. A strong common bond while it lasted. Oh well. I have nothing left to say to him about nicotine, although I will probably make it a point to brag to him about my milestones. Nothing wrong with that. He has made his choice............ And I have made mine.

IG2H 593 QLF today
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on August 20, 2014, 07:37:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: mich
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I'm quitting with you today.
That blows. We are quit with you, bro.

Stay strong and realize you are doing the right thing.
Thanks guys. What a bummer. I never sensed a true NAFAR attitude with him. I gave him the Alan Carr book that SM gave to me and he never read it.

It was great to celebrate being quit with him. A strong common bond while it lasted. Oh well. I have nothing left to say to him about nicotine, although I will probably make it a point to brag to him about my milestones. Nothing wrong with that. He has made his choice............ And I have made mine.

IG2H 593 QLF today
Really proud for you, and sad for your dad. Some people don't want to be free. Remember shawshank redemption and how brooks didn't understand freedom after so many years?

You are no brooks.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on August 20, 2014, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: mich
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I'm quitting with you today.
That blows. We are quit with you, bro.

Stay strong and realize you are doing the right thing.
Thanks guys. What a bummer. I never sensed a true NAFAR attitude with him. I gave him the Alan Carr book that SM gave to me and he never read it.

It was great to celebrate being quit with him. A strong common bond while it lasted. Oh well. I have nothing left to say to him about nicotine, although I will probably make it a point to brag to him about my milestones. Nothing wrong with that. He has made his choice............ And I have made mine.

IG2H 593 QLF today
Really proud for you, and sad for your dad. Some people don't want to be free. Remember shawshank redemption and how brooks didn't understand freedom after so many years?

You are no brooks.
Sorry to hear, and baffled that your Dad would choose to go back to the poison... QLF with you EDD.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on August 20, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: mich
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I'm quitting with you today.
That blows. We are quit with you, bro.

Stay strong and realize you are doing the right thing.
Thanks guys. What a bummer. I never sensed a true NAFAR attitude with him. I gave him the Alan Carr book that SM gave to me and he never read it.

It was great to celebrate being quit with him. A strong common bond while it lasted. Oh well. I have nothing left to say to him about nicotine, although I will probably make it a point to brag to him about my milestones. Nothing wrong with that. He has made his choice............ And I have made mine.

IG2H 593 QLF today
Really proud for you, and sad for your dad. Some people don't want to be free. Remember shawshank redemption and how brooks didn't understand freedom after so many years?

You are no brooks.
Sorry to hear, and baffled that your Dad would choose to go back to the poison... QLF with you EDD.
That completely sucks. This hits me for a couple of reasons:

A - you basically lost a co-quitter with you that has had a long term bond with you.

B - your father is still alive and has the ability to change and to help celebrate your quit along the way; my father didn't have that chance or I should say I didn't

It sucks when you see a hero fail! If your father means half as much to you as my father did to me then you are feeling that sense of "DAMN" I can't believe that man that I looked up to for so long who seemed to do no wrong fucked up.

I know the 30 from KTC would be ready to tie into someone for caving like this and I am sure that same man has spoken some words, but I urge you to try again and explain to him how much his addiction affected your life prior and how it is affecting your life now.

You don't need luck because you are you, but I pray for you to have resolve and patient words while you work through things.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: brettlees on August 20, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: mich
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I'm quitting with you today.
That blows. We are quit with you, bro.

Stay strong and realize you are doing the right thing.
Thanks guys. What a bummer. I never sensed a true NAFAR attitude with him. I gave him the Alan Carr book that SM gave to me and he never read it.

It was great to celebrate being quit with him. A strong common bond while it lasted. Oh well. I have nothing left to say to him about nicotine, although I will probably make it a point to brag to him about my milestones. Nothing wrong with that. He has made his choice............ And I have made mine.

IG2H 593 QLF today
Really proud for you, and sad for your dad. Some people don't want to be free. Remember shawshank redemption and how brooks didn't understand freedom after so many years?

You are no brooks.
Sorry to hear, and baffled that your Dad would choose to go back to the poison... QLF with you EDD.
That completely sucks. This hits me for a couple of reasons:

A - you basically lost a co-quitter with you that has had a long term bond with you.

B - your father is still alive and has the ability to change and to help celebrate your quit along the way; my father didn't have that chance or I should say I didn't

It sucks when you see a hero fail! If your father means half as much to you as my father did to me then you are feeling that sense of "DAMN" I can't believe that man that I looked up to for so long who seemed to do no wrong fucked up.

I know the 30 from KTC would be ready to tie into someone for caving like this and I am sure that same man has spoken some words, but I urge you to try again and explain to him how much his addiction affected your life prior and how it is affecting your life now.

You don't need luck because you are you, but I pray for you to have resolve and patient words while you work through things.
This ^^^ seems like really good advice. I just wanted to say I feel for you, that really sucks. I'm glad you're still resolutely quit through it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on August 20, 2014, 11:39:00 PM
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: mich
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Unfuckingbelievable. I am dumbfounded.

I just returned from my fathers house after in impromptu visit this evening. He broke the bad news to me that decided to have a smoke last week, after having quit 1/1/13.

He quit on the same day that I did. We had no knowledge of each others intentions to quit. I did not even know that he quit smoking until around my HOF time when I called to tell him about my success hoping to inspire him. He informed me that he had not had a smoke since NY eve and that after 52 years of heavy smoking he was done. His quit road to quit was much different than mine in that it involved heavy doses of habitrol, a giant patch that he used for six months. The NRT seemed to work for him, after the six month step down he did in fact quit, along with the help of a site called Quit Net.

He and I supported each other a great deal during this journey. Quitting nicotine gave us a strong bond and brought us much closer. Well last week he threw all that away and is now back to a pack/day just like that. I thought he was solid. He struggled for a many, many months. Battling depression mostly. But he seemed to snap out of it and really get his shit together. Oh he has all kinds of rationale for his return to smoking............................

doctor said my lungs are clear
now I know I can quit anytime I need to
I am sick of being miserable
I need to get off of the paxil
I used to sleep much better when I smoked
I can finally enjoy a cup of coffee again
I am so relaxed when I smoke
blah, blah, blah and on and on and on..............................................

I was so crushed that I did not really know what to say. I told him that all of his justifications sounded like addict babble to me. I told him that if really WANTS to smoke that nothing can help him. He told me that I couldn't possibly understand. 52 years was just too long. My 25 years didn't compare at all. He said it is worth it for me to quit because I am so young, but it is too late for him and doesn't matter. 65 years old. Pathetic. WTF.

I am angry. I am hurt. I am disappointed. I thought my dad was a bad ass quitter and it turns out he is a weak caver. Addiction is a bitch. 593 for me tomorrow. NAFAR. I guess I will celebrate 600 with someone else. At least I am I good company on here.

Quit on.
my heart goes out to you as would feel similar if my dad would start again (he quit in the late 1990's).

you just remain strong my friend.
It doesn't have to happen.

You make it happen, and you've done that for a long time. Control your actions. You can't control his. You pegged the addict talk. We think of our dads as superheroes, but they are humans like us.

I'm sorry man and I got your back.
Sorry to hear about your dad, I'm quitting with you today.
That blows. We are quit with you, bro.

Stay strong and realize you are doing the right thing.
Thanks guys. What a bummer. I never sensed a true NAFAR attitude with him. I gave him the Alan Carr book that SM gave to me and he never read it.

It was great to celebrate being quit with him. A strong common bond while it lasted. Oh well. I have nothing left to say to him about nicotine, although I will probably make it a point to brag to him about my milestones. Nothing wrong with that. He has made his choice............ And I have made mine.

IG2H 593 QLF today
Really proud for you, and sad for your dad. Some people don't want to be free. Remember shawshank redemption and how brooks didn't understand freedom after so many years?

You are no brooks.
Sorry to hear, and baffled that your Dad would choose to go back to the poison... QLF with you EDD.
That completely sucks. This hits me for a couple of reasons:

A - you basically lost a co-quitter with you that has had a long term bond with you.

B - your father is still alive and has the ability to change and to help celebrate your quit along the way; my father didn't have that chance or I should say I didn't

It sucks when you see a hero fail! If your father means half as much to you as my father did to me then you are feeling that sense of "DAMN" I can't believe that man that I looked up to for so long who seemed to do no wrong fucked up.

I know the 30 from KTC would be ready to tie into someone for caving like this and I am sure that same man has spoken some words, but I urge you to try again and explain to him how much his addiction affected your life prior and how it is affecting your life now.

You don't need luck because you are you, but I pray for you to have resolve and patient words while you work through things.
This ^^^ seems like really good advice. I just wanted to say I feel for you, that really sucks. I'm glad you're still resolutely quit through it.
Same as the others, sorry to hear about your dad's choice. But it is exactly that, a choice that must be made EDD. By continuing to come here and post your promise you can win today. Someday hopefully your dad will see the error of his ways and get back on the right path.

With you today, and everyday.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on August 27, 2014, 07:04:00 AM
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on August 27, 2014, 07:10:00 AM
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on August 27, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: traumagnet on August 27, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: DiplessinJax on August 27, 2014, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Congrats IG2H! Proud like fuck to be quit with you. You have done an amazing job paying it forward.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on August 27, 2014, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: DiplessinJax
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Congrats IG2H! Proud like fuck to be quit with you. You have done an amazing job paying it forward.
Fuck yeah.

It doesn't have to happen. You make it happen. Keep doing that.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mthomas3824 on August 27, 2014, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: DiplessinJax
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Congrats IG2H! Proud like fuck to be quit with you. You have done an amazing job paying it forward.
Fuck yeah.

It doesn't have to happen. You make it happen. Keep doing that.
:jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: = 'oh yeah'
6 time Hall of Famer. congrats
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 27, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: DiplessinJax
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Congrats IG2H! Proud like fuck to be quit with you. You have done an amazing job paying it forward.
Fuck yeah.

It doesn't have to happen. You make it happen. Keep doing that.
:jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: = 'oh yeah'
6 time Hall of Famer. congrats
Thank you gentlemen. It has been and continues to be an honor and a pleasure to quit with each of you. I am very grateful that the help was here for me when I needed it.

600 days feels really good. But the reality is.................. 600 days is nothing compared to the 9000+ days that I was using.

I am making a concerted effort to always remind myself of the following:

I am an addict.

There is no just one.

An addict without accountability is a user.

Today is the only day matters. My security is in my roll post NOT my day count.

There is no try, only do.

My behaviors are not driven by external circumstances. They are driven by my character and my commitments.

I have learned these lessons here at KTC. I continue to be grateful for this place and grateful for each of you.

Quit on.

Ryan
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel2112 on August 27, 2014, 09:36:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: DiplessinJax
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Congrats IG2H! Proud like fuck to be quit with you. You have done an amazing job paying it forward.
Fuck yeah.

It doesn't have to happen. You make it happen. Keep doing that.
:jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: = 'oh yeah'
6 time Hall of Famer. congrats
Thank you gentlemen. It has been and continues to be an honor and a pleasure to quit with each of you. I am very grateful that the help was here for me when I needed it.

600 days feels really good. But the reality is.................. 600 days is nothing compared to the 9000+ days that I was using.

I am making a concerted effort to always remind myself of the following:

I am an addict.

There is no just one.

An addict without accountability is a user.

Today is the only day matters. My security is in my roll post NOT my day count.

There is no try, only do.

My behaviors are not driven by external circumstances. They are driven by my character and my commitments.

I have learned these lessons here at KTC. I continue to be grateful for this place and grateful for each of you.

Quit on.

Ryan



Congrats on 6 Bills!!!

I'm sure each and every one of them enjoyed your felatio.

Seriously, awesome job! Keep it up!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mich 34 on August 27, 2014, 10:01:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: DiplessinJax
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Congrats IG2H! Proud like fuck to be quit with you. You have done an amazing job paying it forward.
Fuck yeah.

It doesn't have to happen. You make it happen. Keep doing that.
:jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: = 'oh yeah'
6 time Hall of Famer. congrats
Thank you gentlemen. It has been and continues to be an honor and a pleasure to quit with each of you. I am very grateful that the help was here for me when I needed it.

600 days feels really good. But the reality is.................. 600 days is nothing compared to the 9000+ days that I was using.

I am making a concerted effort to always remind myself of the following:

I am an addict.

There is no just one.

An addict without accountability is a user.

Today is the only day matters. My security is in my roll post NOT my day count.

There is no try, only do.

My behaviors are not driven by external circumstances. They are driven by my character and my commitments.

I have learned these lessons here at KTC. I continue to be grateful for this place and grateful for each of you.

Quit on.

Ryan



Congrats on 6 Bills!!!

I'm sure each and every one of them enjoyed your felatio.

Seriously, awesome job! Keep it up!!!
600! congrats Ryan, starting to look like you've got a quit going on!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on August 27, 2014, 11:59:00 PM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: DiplessinJax
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Congrats IG2H! Proud like fuck to be quit with you. You have done an amazing job paying it forward.
Fuck yeah.

It doesn't have to happen. You make it happen. Keep doing that.
:jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: = 'oh yeah'
6 time Hall of Famer. congrats
Thank you gentlemen. It has been and continues to be an honor and a pleasure to quit with each of you. I am very grateful that the help was here for me when I needed it.

600 days feels really good. But the reality is.................. 600 days is nothing compared to the 9000+ days that I was using.

I am making a concerted effort to always remind myself of the following:

I am an addict.

There is no just one.

An addict without accountability is a user.

Today is the only day matters. My security is in my roll post NOT my day count.

There is no try, only do.

My behaviors are not driven by external circumstances. They are driven by my character and my commitments.

I have learned these lessons here at KTC. I continue to be grateful for this place and grateful for each of you.

Quit on.

Ryan



Congrats on 6 Bills!!!

I'm sure each and every one of them enjoyed your felatio.

Seriously, awesome job! Keep it up!!!
600! congrats Ryan, starting to look like you've got a quit going on!
Congrats- 600 is awesome! Keep kickin it ODAAT!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: brettlees on August 28, 2014, 12:18:00 AM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: DiplessinJax
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Pinched
Ryan congrats on 600 today. You are an incredible asset around here and I am damn proud to quit with you daily, but today is your day to celebrate.

Thanks for everything you do.
Every day is a win, but today is a day to celebrate a big milestone. You've pulled a lot of us to success along with your own wins, and for that many of us, and this community, owe you a huge that you.

Happy 600!
600 is awesome! Keep leading the way brother!
Nice IG2H...two seasons of sitting in a stand nic free bad ass
Congrats IG2H! Proud like fuck to be quit with you. You have done an amazing job paying it forward.
Fuck yeah.

It doesn't have to happen. You make it happen. Keep doing that.
:jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: :jan13trophy: = 'oh yeah'
6 time Hall of Famer. congrats
Thank you gentlemen. It has been and continues to be an honor and a pleasure to quit with each of you. I am very grateful that the help was here for me when I needed it.

600 days feels really good. But the reality is.................. 600 days is nothing compared to the 9000+ days that I was using.

I am making a concerted effort to always remind myself of the following:

I am an addict.

There is no just one.

An addict without accountability is a user.

Today is the only day matters. My security is in my roll post NOT my day count.

There is no try, only do.

My behaviors are not driven by external circumstances. They are driven by my character and my commitments.

I have learned these lessons here at KTC. I continue to be grateful for this place and grateful for each of you.

Quit on.

Ryan



Congrats on 6 Bills!!!

I'm sure each and every one of them enjoyed your felatio.

Seriously, awesome job! Keep it up!!!
600! congrats Ryan, starting to look like you've got a quit going on!
Congrats- 600 is awesome! Keep kickin it ODAAT!
Man, proof of what you are doing has to be in the string of badasses congratulating you here. Birds of a feather man, you are doing it well. Thank you for support and congrats- keep being a role model of changing you life despite all the odds. F the odds, they are nothing in the face of a determined man with the necessary education.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Mike from AB on August 28, 2014, 01:01:00 PM
Congrats on hitting 600!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on December 05, 2014, 05:20:00 AM
Congratulations on hitting 700 today! What started off as a hell moved to a better way of living, one day at a time. Enjoy that new crossbow you paid for by not wasting money on grizzly! Enjoy your day, and thanks for your support!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on December 05, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Congratulations on hitting 700 today! What started off as a hell moved to a better way of living, one day at a time. Enjoy that new crossbow you paid for by not wasting money on grizzly! Enjoy your day, and thanks for your support!
Awesome quitter, great quit. Congrats Ryan!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 05, 2014, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
Congratulations on hitting 700 today! What started off as a hell moved to a better way of living, one day at a time. Enjoy that new crossbow you paid for by not wasting money on grizzly! Enjoy your day, and thanks for your support!
Awesome quitter, great quit. Congrats Ryan!
Thanks guys. 700 days of freedom. Surreal. I was a slave to nicotine for so long. I stopped for a while too many times to count. Nothing worked. I wanted to be free but didn't know how. KTC showed me the way.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jbradley on December 05, 2014, 08:27:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
Congratulations on hitting 700 today! What started off as a hell moved to a better way of living, one day at a time. Enjoy that new crossbow you paid for by not wasting money on grizzly! Enjoy your day, and thanks for your support!
Awesome quitter, great quit. Congrats Ryan!
Thanks guys. 700 days of freedom. Surreal. I was a slave to nicotine for so long. I stopped for a while too many times to count. Nothing worked. I wanted to be free but didn't know how. KTC showed me the way.
Congrats on 700! Proud to quit with you today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Derk40 on December 05, 2014, 08:41:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
Congratulations on hitting 700 today! What started off as a hell moved to a better way of living, one day at a time. Enjoy that new crossbow you paid for by not wasting money on grizzly! Enjoy your day, and thanks for your support!
Awesome quitter, great quit. Congrats Ryan!
Thanks guys. 700 days of freedom. Surreal. I was a slave to nicotine for so long. I stopped for a while too many times to count. Nothing worked. I wanted to be free but didn't know how. KTC showed me the way.
Congrats on 700! Proud to quit with you today.
Nice 7 bills! Well done quitter!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: AppleJack on December 05, 2014, 09:29:00 PM
Quote from: Derk40
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
Congratulations on hitting 700 today! What started off as a hell moved to a better way of living, one day at a time. Enjoy that new crossbow you paid for by not wasting money on grizzly! Enjoy your day, and thanks for your support!
Awesome quitter, great quit. Congrats Ryan!
Thanks guys. 700 days of freedom. Surreal. I was a slave to nicotine for so long. I stopped for a while too many times to count. Nothing worked. I wanted to be free but didn't know how. KTC showed me the way.
Congrats on 700! Proud to quit with you today.
Nice 7 bills! Well done quitter!!
Awesome bro!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on December 05, 2014, 10:48:00 PM
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: Derk40
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
Congratulations on hitting 700 today! What started off as a hell moved to a better way of living, one day at a time. Enjoy that new crossbow you paid for by not wasting money on grizzly! Enjoy your day, and thanks for your support!
Awesome quitter, great quit. Congrats Ryan!
Thanks guys. 700 days of freedom. Surreal. I was a slave to nicotine for so long. I stopped for a while too many times to count. Nothing worked. I wanted to be free but didn't know how. KTC showed me the way.
Congrats on 700! Proud to quit with you today.
Nice 7 bills! Well done quitter!!
Awesome bro!
boner man.

Quit boner.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 07, 2014, 03:46:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Lmao- you just hit what's known as the two week weakness. It will pass. Let's not focus on hitting 100 just yet lil buddy. Let's focus on one day at a time. As for your current mental entanglement.....

When using you wish you were quit

When quit you wish you were using

Which of these two is the truth?
The other one is just addiction. Hold tight to your memory of wanting to quit. Did you pray? Beg? Wish? Hope? To be quit? Remember the shame and frustration of trying so many times and failing? If your like me you wanted to be quit bad. I know you have a memory of broken promises, guilt , or something similar. Do you really want to go back to that? You deserve more than that life.

My advice is simple, stop fixating on chewing. You quit, go live your life. Besides, have you ever known anybody that said "I'm so glad I started chewing again" the dip you get when you cave isn't the one your lusting for. It won't be a "good " dip. Instead it will be just like the 10,000 shitty ones that came before it. The ones that you had to have because the can owned you.

That shit doesn't fill the void it created it
This was such an awesome post. Just a little over a week into my quit, nearly 2 years ago.

BUMP for awesomeness. Especially the last paragraph.

Newbies, heed skoalmonsters words, the dip you get when you cave is NOT the one you are romanticizing about. NOPE. It would be a shitty one. Like the thousands of other shitty ones that came before it. The one that hurt. When you had to scrape half your inner cheek off in the shower after a weekend of heavy use.

Its_Got2Happen 702.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 07, 2014, 03:46:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Lmao- you just hit what's known as the two week weakness. It will pass. Let's not focus on hitting 100 just yet lil buddy. Let's focus on one day at a time. As for your current mental entanglement.....br /br /When using you wish you were quitbr /br /When quit you wish you were usingbr /br /Which of these two is the truth? br /The other one is just addiction. Hold tight to your memory of wanting to quit. Did you pray? Beg? Wish? Hope? To be quit? Remember the shame and frustration of trying so many times and failing? If your like me you wanted to be quit bad. I know you have a memory of broken promises, guilt , or something similar. Do you really want to go back to that? You deserve more than that life.br /br /My advice is simple, stop fixating on chewing. You quit, go live your life. Besides, have you ever known anybody that said "I'm so glad I started chewing again" the dip you get when you cave isn't the one your lusting for. It won't be a "good " dip. Instead it will be just like the 10,000 shitty ones that came before it. The ones that you had to have because the can owned you. br /br /That shit doesn't fill the void it created itbr /br /
This was such an awesome post. Just a little over a week into my quit, nearly 2 years ago.

BUMP for awesomeness. Especially the last paragraph.

Newbies, heed skoalmonsters words, the dip you get when you cave is NOT the one you are romanticizing about. NOPE. It would be a shitty one. Like the thousands of other shitty ones that came before it. The one that hurt. When you had to scrape half your inner cheek off in the shower after a weekend of heavy use.

Its_Got2Happen 702.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 04, 2015, 08:38:00 AM
Nicotine free for 2 years. Yeah baby. Sometimes I still have to pinch myself. I did it. I actually did it.

It did get easier, just like the vets said it would. In the beginning I wished that quitting was easier and that life would get back to normal faster.

Normal? What the hell is that? As a dipper there was no normal. I was either satisfied or withdrawing. Life revolved around my damn blood nicotine levels. Everything is different now.

Now in hindsight, I am glad that it was this difficult. I needed the pain. If it was easy I would be in danger of caving again, under the pretense that I could just quit again anytime I wanted to. Someone once said, "without struggle there is no progress". I tend to agree.

I truly believe that the stars were aligned for me on that fateful day. I discovered this amazing website. I met some amazing people. Many of them had the exact words I needed to hear at the exact time I needed to hear them. My wife was supportive and patient. My attitude was finally right. I was ready for the help and support that I never knew I needed. I realize that these perfect circumstances were nothing short of a miracle. I am grateful.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT AND DO IT NOW. You must seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. DO IT NOW. That desire may not return again until it is too late. The stars are aligned today. Tomorrow may never come and when it does you may be too damn busy to quit, or too damn busy to care.

A great quitter once told me, "never forget day one". I never will.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Ginet on January 04, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Congrats on 2 years! Truly bad ass!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: MN_Ben on January 04, 2015, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Nicotine free for 2 years. Yeah baby. Sometimes I still have to pinch myself. I did it. I actually did it.

It did get easier, just like the vets said it would. In the beginning I wished that quitting was easier and that life would get back to normal faster.

Normal? What the hell is that? As a dipper there was no normal. I was either satisfied or withdrawing. Life revolved around my damn blood nicotine levels. Everything is different now.

Now in hindsight, I am glad that it was this difficult. I needed the pain. If it was easy I would be in danger of caving again, under the pretense that I could just quit again anytime I wanted to. Someone once said, "without struggle there is no progress". I tend to agree.

I truly believe that the stars were aligned for me on that fateful day. I discovered this amazing website. I met some amazing people. Many of them had the exact words I needed to hear at the exact time I needed to hear them. My wife was supportive and patient. My attitude was finally right. I was ready for the help and support that I never knew I needed. I realize that these perfect circumstances were nothing short of a miracle. I am grateful.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT AND DO IT NOW. You must seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. DO IT NOW. That desire may not return again until it is too late. The stars are aligned today. Tomorrow may never come and when it does you may be too damn busy to quit, or too damn busy to care.

A great quitter once told me, "never forget day one". I never will.
Congrats on two years!!! And well said!!!!

'clap'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on January 04, 2015, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: MN_Ben
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Nicotine free for 2 years. Yeah baby. Sometimes I still have to pinch myself. I did it. I actually did it.

It did get easier, just like the vets said it would. In the beginning I wished that quitting was easier and that life would get back to normal faster.

Normal? What the hell is that? As a dipper there was no normal. I was either satisfied or withdrawing. Life revolved around my damn blood nicotine levels. Everything is different now.

Now in hindsight, I am glad that it was this difficult. I needed the pain. If it was easy I would be in danger of caving again, under the pretense that I could just quit again anytime I wanted to. Someone once said, "without struggle there is no progress". I tend to agree.

I truly believe that the stars were aligned for me on that fateful day. I discovered this amazing website. I met some amazing people. Many of them had the exact words I needed to hear at the exact time I needed to hear them. My wife was supportive and patient. My attitude was finally right. I was ready for the help and support that I never knew I needed. I realize that these perfect circumstances were nothing short of a miracle. I am grateful.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT AND DO IT NOW. You must seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. DO IT NOW. That desire may not return again until it is too late. The stars are aligned today. Tomorrow may never come and when it does you may be too damn busy to quit, or too damn busy to care.

A great quitter once told me, "never forget day one". I never will.
Congrats on two years!!! And well said!!!!

'clap'
People like you are what this site is all about. You have built a team and hold them, and expect them to hold you, accountable. You are on roll call every day. You support others. I don't think I would be here today were it not for you holding me accountable in those early days 2 years ago.

You have struggled. Fought hard. And won every day for 2 solid years. Congratulations Ryan. Enjoy a great day of freedom!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: rdad on January 04, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: MN_Ben
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Nicotine free for 2 years. Yeah baby. Sometimes I still have to pinch myself. I did it. I actually did it.

It did get easier, just like the vets said it would. In the beginning I wished that quitting was easier and that life would get back to normal faster.

Normal? What the hell is that? As a dipper there was no normal. I was either satisfied or withdrawing. Life revolved around my damn blood nicotine levels. Everything is different now.

Now in hindsight, I am glad that it was this difficult. I needed the pain. If it was easy I would be in danger of caving again, under the pretense that I could just quit again anytime I wanted to. Someone once said, "without struggle there is no progress". I tend to agree.

I truly believe that the stars were aligned for me on that fateful day. I discovered this amazing website. I met some amazing people. Many of them had the exact words I needed to hear at the exact time I needed to hear them. My wife was supportive and patient. My attitude was finally right. I was ready for the help and support that I never knew I needed. I realize that these perfect circumstances were nothing short of a miracle. I am grateful.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT AND DO IT NOW. You must seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. DO IT NOW. That desire may not return again until it is too late. The stars are aligned today. Tomorrow may never come and when it does you may be too damn busy to quit, or too damn busy to care.

A great quitter once told me, "never forget day one". I never will.
Congrats on two years!!! And well said!!!!

'clap'
People like you are what this site is all about. You have built a team and hold them, and expect them to hold you, accountable. You are on roll call every day. You support others. I don't think I would be here today were it not for you holding me accountable in those early days 2 years ago.

You have struggled. Fought hard. And won every day for 2 solid years. Congratulations Ryan. Enjoy a great day of freedom!
I love reading your posts IG2H. Huge congrats on two years free!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 04, 2015, 07:10:00 PM
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: MN_Ben
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Nicotine free for 2 years. Yeah baby. Sometimes I still have to pinch myself. I did it. I actually did it.

It did get easier, just like the vets said it would. In the beginning I wished that quitting was easier and that life would get back to normal faster.

Normal? What the hell is that? As a dipper there was no normal. I was either satisfied or withdrawing. Life revolved around my damn blood nicotine levels. Everything is different now.

Now in hindsight, I am glad that it was this difficult. I needed the pain. If it was easy I would be in danger of caving again, under the pretense that I could just quit again anytime I wanted to. Someone once said, "without struggle there is no progress". I tend to agree.

I truly believe that the stars were aligned for me on that fateful day. I discovered this amazing website. I met some amazing people. Many of them had the exact words I needed to hear at the exact time I needed to hear them. My wife was supportive and patient. My attitude was finally right. I was ready for the help and support that I never knew I needed. I realize that these perfect circumstances were nothing short of a miracle. I am grateful.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT AND DO IT NOW. You must seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. DO IT NOW. That desire may not return again until it is too late. The stars are aligned today. Tomorrow may never come and when it does you may be too damn busy to quit, or too damn busy to care.

A great quitter once told me, "never forget day one". I never will.
Congrats on two years!!! And well said!!!!

'clap'
People like you are what this site is all about. You have built a team and hold them, and expect them to hold you, accountable. You are on roll call every day. You support others. I don't think I would be here today were it not for you holding me accountable in those early days 2 years ago.

You have struggled. Fought hard. And won every day for 2 solid years. Congratulations Ryan. Enjoy a great day of freedom!
I love reading your posts IG2H. Huge congrats on two years free!
Thank you for the kind words gentlemen. It feels good to win. I am told that the 2 year mark is actually quite special. According to the actuaries after 2 years, statistically I am no more likely to use nicotine use than someone who has never used.

That said, I really don't take great comfort in statistics. Who cares about the masses? When it comes to me and my quit, I will still guard it with my life and treat it like the treasure that it is. For I know what addiction is now. There is no "just one". All the quit in the world can be thrown about in a millisecond. I must keep the tools sharp. I know I still need them.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mich 34 on January 04, 2015, 07:58:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: MN_Ben
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Nicotine free for 2 years. Yeah baby. Sometimes I still have to pinch myself. I did it. I actually did it.

It did get easier, just like the vets said it would. In the beginning I wished that quitting was easier and that life would get back to normal faster.

Normal? What the hell is that? As a dipper there was no normal. I was either satisfied or withdrawing. Life revolved around my damn blood nicotine levels. Everything is different now.

Now in hindsight, I am glad that it was this difficult. I needed the pain. If it was easy I would be in danger of caving again, under the pretense that I could just quit again anytime I wanted to. Someone once said, "without struggle there is no progress". I tend to agree.

I truly believe that the stars were aligned for me on that fateful day. I discovered this amazing website. I met some amazing people. Many of them had the exact words I needed to hear at the exact time I needed to hear them. My wife was supportive and patient. My attitude was finally right. I was ready for the help and support that I never knew I needed. I realize that these perfect circumstances were nothing short of a miracle. I am grateful.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT AND DO IT NOW. You must seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. DO IT NOW. That desire may not return again until it is too late. The stars are aligned today. Tomorrow may never come and when it does you may be too damn busy to quit, or too damn busy to care.

A great quitter once told me, "never forget day one". I never will.
Congrats on two years!!! And well said!!!!

'clap'
People like you are what this site is all about. You have built a team and hold them, and expect them to hold you, accountable. You are on roll call every day. You support others. I don't think I would be here today were it not for you holding me accountable in those early days 2 years ago.

You have struggled. Fought hard. And won every day for 2 solid years. Congratulations Ryan. Enjoy a great day of freedom!
I love reading your posts IG2H. Huge congrats on two years free!
Thank you for the kind words gentlemen. It feels good to win. I am told that the 2 year mark is actually quite special. According to the actuaries after 2 years, statistically I am no more likely to use nicotine use than someone who has never used.

That said, I really don't take great comfort in statistics. Who cares about the masses? When it comes to me and my quit, I will still guard it with my life and treat it like the treasure that it is. For I know what addiction is now. There is no "just one". All the quit in the world can be thrown about in a millisecond. I must keep the tools sharp. I know I still need them.
2 years, huge. congrats on another milestone
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Erussell on January 04, 2015, 11:40:00 PM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: MN_Ben
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Nicotine free for 2 years. Yeah baby. Sometimes I still have to pinch myself. I did it. I actually did it.

It did get easier, just like the vets said it would. In the beginning I wished that quitting was easier and that life would get back to normal faster.

Normal? What the hell is that? As a dipper there was no normal. I was either satisfied or withdrawing. Life revolved around my damn blood nicotine levels. Everything is different now.

Now in hindsight, I am glad that it was this difficult. I needed the pain. If it was easy I would be in danger of caving again, under the pretense that I could just quit again anytime I wanted to. Someone once said, "without struggle there is no progress". I tend to agree.

I truly believe that the stars were aligned for me on that fateful day. I discovered this amazing website. I met some amazing people. Many of them had the exact words I needed to hear at the exact time I needed to hear them. My wife was supportive and patient. My attitude was finally right. I was ready for the help and support that I never knew I needed. I realize that these perfect circumstances were nothing short of a miracle. I am grateful.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT AND DO IT NOW. You must seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. DO IT NOW. That desire may not return again until it is too late. The stars are aligned today. Tomorrow may never come and when it does you may be too damn busy to quit, or too damn busy to care.

A great quitter once told me, "never forget day one". I never will.
Congrats on two years!!! And well said!!!!

'clap'
People like you are what this site is all about. You have built a team and hold them, and expect them to hold you, accountable. You are on roll call every day. You support others. I don't think I would be here today were it not for you holding me accountable in those early days 2 years ago.

You have struggled. Fought hard. And won every day for 2 solid years. Congratulations Ryan. Enjoy a great day of freedom!
I love reading your posts IG2H. Huge congrats on two years free!
Thank you for the kind words gentlemen. It feels good to win. I am told that the 2 year mark is actually quite special. According to the actuaries after 2 years, statistically I am no more likely to use nicotine use than someone who has never used.

That said, I really don't take great comfort in statistics. Who cares about the masses? When it comes to me and my quit, I will still guard it with my life and treat it like the treasure that it is. For I know what addiction is now. There is no "just one". All the quit in the world can be thrown about in a millisecond. I must keep the tools sharp. I know I still need them.
2 years, huge. congrats on another milestone
Quit with you!! Congrats
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on January 05, 2015, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: MN_Ben
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Nicotine free for 2 years. Yeah baby. Sometimes I still have to pinch myself. I did it. I actually did it.

It did get easier, just like the vets said it would. In the beginning I wished that quitting was easier and that life would get back to normal faster.

Normal? What the hell is that? As a dipper there was no normal. I was either satisfied or withdrawing. Life revolved around my damn blood nicotine levels. Everything is different now.

Now in hindsight, I am glad that it was this difficult. I needed the pain. If it was easy I would be in danger of caving again, under the pretense that I could just quit again anytime I wanted to. Someone once said, "without struggle there is no progress". I tend to agree.

I truly believe that the stars were aligned for me on that fateful day. I discovered this amazing website. I met some amazing people. Many of them had the exact words I needed to hear at the exact time I needed to hear them. My wife was supportive and patient. My attitude was finally right. I was ready for the help and support that I never knew I needed. I realize that these perfect circumstances were nothing short of a miracle. I am grateful.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT AND DO IT NOW. You must seize the moment. The desire to quit can be fleeting. DO IT NOW. That desire may not return again until it is too late. The stars are aligned today. Tomorrow may never come and when it does you may be too damn busy to quit, or too damn busy to care.

A great quitter once told me, "never forget day one". I never will.
Congrats on two years!!! And well said!!!!

'clap'
People like you are what this site is all about. You have built a team and hold them, and expect them to hold you, accountable. You are on roll call every day. You support others. I don't think I would be here today were it not for you holding me accountable in those early days 2 years ago.

You have struggled. Fought hard. And won every day for 2 solid years. Congratulations Ryan. Enjoy a great day of freedom!
I love reading your posts IG2H. Huge congrats on two years free!
Thank you for the kind words gentlemen. It feels good to win. I am told that the 2 year mark is actually quite special. According to the actuaries after 2 years, statistically I am no more likely to use nicotine use than someone who has never used.

That said, I really don't take great comfort in statistics. Who cares about the masses? When it comes to me and my quit, I will still guard it with my life and treat it like the treasure that it is. For I know what addiction is now. There is no "just one". All the quit in the world can be thrown about in a millisecond. I must keep the tools sharp. I know I still need them.
2 years, huge. congrats on another milestone
Quit with you!! Congrats
Nice job Ryan, congrats!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on March 14, 2015, 07:03:00 AM
800 days of freedom! Seems unreal doesn't it?

Lately I've been reading through the intros more of some struggles new quitters are facing. No one better journaled their fight against nicotine than you did. In the beginning it was a fight that seemed hopeless, impossible. But it isn't.

Thanks for being a very key part of the success of our April 2013 group, and of my own success. We can't quit alone and be successful. With the right group, the right brotherhood, and the right accountability... You will not fail. You are proof that this works.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on March 14, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
800 days of freedom! Seems unreal doesn't it?

Lately I've been reading through the intros more of some struggles new quitters are facing. No one better journaled their fight against nicotine than you did. In the beginning it was a fight that seemed hopeless, impossible. But it isn't.

Thanks for being a very key part of the success of our April 2013 group, and of my own success. We can't quit alone and be successful. With the right group, the right brotherhood, and the right accountability... You will not fail. You are proof that this works.
Huge congrats on the 8th floor! Great work.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on March 14, 2015, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
800 days of freedom! Seems unreal doesn't it?

Lately I've been reading through the intros more of some struggles new quitters are facing. No one better journaled their fight against nicotine than you did. In the beginning it was a fight that seemed hopeless, impossible. But it isn't.

Thanks for being a very key part of the success of our April 2013 group, and of my own success. We can't quit alone and be successful. With the right group, the right brotherhood, and the right accountability... You will not fail. You are proof that this works.
Huge congrats on the 8th floor! Great work.
Thanks guys. I almost missed this. I am hardly ever on the intros anymore. I need to make it a point to get back here. The view is great from the 8th floor but I NEVER want to forget what life was like at ground level. Never forget day one. For years I was a hopeless slave. Mouth full of shit, grobbling idiot. I will quit when this happens, I will quit after that happens, I will quit next week, blah, blah, blah, blah.

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY is the only day that matters. If you are still dipping, STOP. You can quit. We can help.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on March 14, 2015, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
800 days of freedom! Seems unreal doesn't it?

Lately I've been reading through the intros more of some struggles new quitters are facing. No one better journaled their fight against nicotine than you did. In the beginning it was a fight that seemed hopeless, impossible. But it isn't.

Thanks for being a very key part of the success of our April 2013 group, and of my own success. We can't quit alone and be successful. With the right group, the right brotherhood, and the right accountability... You will not fail. You are proof that this works.
Huge congrats on the 8th floor! Great work.
Thanks guys. I almost missed this. I am hardly ever on the intros anymore. I need to make it a point to get back here. The view is great from the 8th floor but I NEVER want to forget what life was like at ground level. Never forget day one. For years I was a hopeless slave. Mouth full of shit, grobbling idiot. I will quit when this happens, I will quit after that happens, I will quit next week, blah, blah, blah, blah.

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY

TODAY is the only day that matters. If you are still dipping, STOP. You can quit. We can help.
With ya today, man.

That's all we got.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on April 14, 2015, 04:26:00 AM
Happy 40th!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on April 14, 2015, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Happy 40th!
Happy Birthday brother!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Ginet on April 14, 2015, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
Happy 40th!
Happy Birthday brother!
Happy Birthday!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Nickald on April 14, 2015, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: Ginet
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
Happy 40th!
Happy Birthday brother!
Happy Birthday!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on May 01, 2015, 09:43:00 AM
Quitting nicotine has been an amazing experience. I found this site 848 days ago. In that time I have found a way to conduct my life without nicotine. The first few months were hard but it was so worth it. I have met some amazing people along the way. From all different walks of life we came to know each other. We shared a common desire and a common goal. We were seeking freedom from an addiction. With the help of this site and the help of each other we have found that freedom.

I am typing this update to my intro 100s of miles from home as I visit 4 friends from my quit group. That may seem strange to some. It still seems strange to me. But I don't care.

QLF from KC
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on May 03, 2015, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quitting nicotine has been an amazing experience. I found this site 848 days ago. In that time I have found a way to conduct my life without nicotine. The first few months were hard but it was so worth it. I have met some amazing people along the way. From all different walks of life we came to know each other. We shared a common desire and a common goal. We were seeking freedom from an addiction. With the help of this site and the help of each other we have found that freedom.

I am typing this update to my intro 100s of miles from home as I visit 4 friends from my quit group. That may seem strange to some. It still seems strange to me. But I don't care.

QLF from KC
We quit nicotine. But we gained a lot more.

See you in Vegas in 2016!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on June 22, 2015, 06:56:00 AM
Every day quit is a win. A big one. But milestones seem particularly sweet! Congratulations on 900 days today. You are a mentor to many of us.

Celebrate freedom today!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pinched on June 22, 2015, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Every day quit is a win. A big one. But milestones seem particularly sweet! Congratulations on 900 days today. You are a mentor to many of us.

Celebrate freedom today!
Congratulations on 900 consecutive good choices. You have been a great quitter to follow in the trail and your words are always inspiring.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: jalb0127 on June 22, 2015, 09:30:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Every day quit is a win. A big one. But milestones seem particularly sweet! Congratulations on 900 days today. You are a mentor to many of us.

Celebrate freedom today!
Greetings all! Day 1 rectifying a mistake made over 20 years ago. Glad to be here and looking forward to the support and meeting others that have come to their senses.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: trigerhapy on June 22, 2015, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: worktowin
Every day quit is a win. A big one. But milestones seem particularly sweet! Congratulations on 900 days today. You are a mentor to many of us.

Celebrate freedom today!
Congratulations on 900 consecutive good choices. You have been a great quitter to follow in the trail and your words are always inspiring.
900 days! Comma is just around the corner, congratulations!!!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 25, 2015, 10:52:00 PM
Camping with the family in Mackinaw city. Just bought a camper. Good times. Packing shit up all morning. Felt like a dip would be real natural. Weird. Felling passed as it always does. Now kids are in bed and I am sitting by fire with a few couples I don't know. Both guys dipping. One dude has 3/4 can of Kodiak in his cheek. Looks like a fucking idiot. But I can't judge...that was me 900 and something days ago. I love me some KTC. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. QLF all day baby. Fuck dip, fuck nicotine, fuck addiction in general. I win today.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: pab1964 on July 25, 2015, 11:40:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Camping with the family in Mackinaw city. Just bought a camper. Good times. Packing shit up all morning. Felt like a dip would be real natural. Weird. Felling passed as it always does. Now kids are in bed and I am sitting by fire with a few couples I don't know. Both guys dipping. One dude has 3/4 can of Kodiak in his cheek. Looks like a fucking idiot. But I can't judge...that was me 900 and something days ago. I love me some KTC. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. QLF all day baby. Fuck dip, fuck nicotine, fuck addiction in general. I win today.
Great win brother! It's amazing how powerful this shit is! After some 900 + days still after you! Quit on my brother! Enjoy your camper. Get a chance tell the fellows how great being free is!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on July 26, 2015, 05:20:00 AM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Camping with the family in Mackinaw city. Just bought a camper. Good times. Packing shit up all morning. Felt like a dip would be real natural. Weird. Felling passed as it always does. Now kids are in bed and I am sitting by fire with a few couples I don't know. Both guys dipping. One dude has 3/4 can of Kodiak in his cheek. Looks like a fucking idiot. But I can't judge...that was me 900 and something days ago. I love me some KTC. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. QLF all day baby. Fuck dip, fuck nicotine, fuck addiction in general. I win today.
Great win brother! It's amazing how powerful this shit is! After some 900 + days still after you! Quit on my brother! Enjoy your camper. Get a chance tell the fellows how great being free is!
You aren't a fucking idiot.

Enjoy your trip. Post roll. Keep your word.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on July 26, 2015, 09:42:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Camping with the family in Mackinaw city. Just bought a camper. Good times. Packing shit up all morning. Felt like a dip would be real natural. Weird. Felling passed as it always does. Now kids are in bed and I am sitting by fire with a few couples I don't know. Both guys dipping. One dude has 3/4 can of Kodiak in his cheek. Looks like a fucking idiot. But I can't judge...that was me 900 and something days ago. I love me some KTC. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. QLF all day baby. Fuck dip, fuck nicotine, fuck addiction in general. I win today.
Great win brother! It's amazing how powerful this shit is! After some 900 + days still after you! Quit on my brother! Enjoy your camper. Get a chance tell the fellows how great being free is!
You aren't a fucking idiot.

Enjoy your trip. Post roll. Keep your word.
Awesome to be free from the poison!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Jerk11 on July 26, 2015, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Camping with the family in Mackinaw city. Just bought a camper. Good times. Packing shit up all morning. Felt like a dip would be real natural. Weird. Felling passed as it always does. Now kids are in bed and I am sitting by fire with a few couples I don't know. Both guys dipping. One dude has 3/4 can of Kodiak in his cheek. Looks like a fucking idiot. But I can't judge...that was me 900 and something days ago. I love me some KTC. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. QLF all day baby. Fuck dip, fuck nicotine, fuck addiction in general. I win today.
Great win brother! It's amazing how powerful this shit is! After some 900 + days still after you! Quit on my brother! Enjoy your camper. Get a chance tell the fellows how great being free is!
You aren't a fucking idiot.

Enjoy your trip. Post roll. Keep your word.
Awesome to be free from the poison!
GREAT fucking post, and I agree with Work.... you are a totally new person. We all are. This shit feels great. Keep the days rollin' brother, comma right around the corner...
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on August 15, 2015, 07:27:00 PM
QLF today. I never thought it would become easy. Today was easy. Had a weird crave though but just laughed at it. No chance I will dip today. There is so much security in my roll post.

Hey newbs... you can do this. Throw that shit in the trash. You do NOT need it.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on October 01, 2015, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Hey Ryan... This was a post from you around day 16. It seems really appropriate to bring up today, as you are out on opening day of deer season, and celebrating 1,000 days of winning!

1,000 days ago you were a complete mess. Walking around mumbling to yourself, hurting, fighting with Mrs Got2 because of your addiction...today you are free! Thanks for all of your help and friendship over this past 1,000 days. You da man!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on October 01, 2015, 07:46:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Hey Ryan... This was a post from you around day 16. It seems really appropriate to bring up today, as you are out on opening day of deer season, and celebrating 1,000 days of winning!

1,000 days ago you were a complete mess. Walking around mumbling to yourself, hurting, fighting with Mrs Got2 because of your addiction...today you are free! Thanks for all of your help and friendship over this past 1,000 days. You da man!
Ryan, you have been leading the way for me since I got here, and you were one of the first BAQs to get me feeling the commitment. So awesome for you to get your comma brother!
'oh yeah'
Great stuff on this thread newbs give it a read and see what quitting KTC style is all about.
Ryan, enjoy the hell out of today, and bag some meat.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 01, 2015, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Hey Ryan... This was a post from you around day 16. It seems really appropriate to bring up today, as you are out on opening day of deer season, and celebrating 1,000 days of winning!

1,000 days ago you were a complete mess. Walking around mumbling to yourself, hurting, fighting with Mrs Got2 because of your addiction...today you are free! Thanks for all of your help and friendship over this past 1,000 days. You da man!
Ryan, you have been leading the way for me since I got here, and you were one of the first BAQs to get me feeling the commitment. So awesome for you to get your comma brother!
'oh yeah'
Great stuff on this thread newbs give it a read and see what quitting KTC style is all about.
Ryan, enjoy the hell out of today, and bag some meat.
Thank you. I cannot lie.... IT FEELS PRETTY DAMN GOOD.

Hell yeah!! Killing the can for 1000 days. I want to thank the founders and keepers of this site. Every man and women that dedicates time and effort to themselves and other people on this site deserve the utmost respect. People helping people. I love it. I would have never been able to do it without them. FogCutters..... what can I say, what a great fucking group of people. Salt of the earth. Crazy as all get out, but damn glad to have them in my corner.

Life is so much better without nicotine. Deep down I knew it would be, I just never had the balls and the tools to get the job done. Along the way I learned that the job is never DONE. It is all about the journey, not the destination.

Damn, I remember this post W2W, and I remember that day. It was a dangerous day in my early quit. Read on. I think I was actually planning a day 100 cave. Some members of the site saw straight through my bullshit and called me out immediately.

That is why I love this site. Addicts need accountability, and often brutal truth.

Keep killing it friends. See you tomorrow.

IG2H
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: KingNothing on October 01, 2015, 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Hey Ryan... This was a post from you around day 16. It seems really appropriate to bring up today, as you are out on opening day of deer season, and celebrating 1,000 days of winning!

1,000 days ago you were a complete mess. Walking around mumbling to yourself, hurting, fighting with Mrs Got2 because of your addiction...today you are free! Thanks for all of your help and friendship over this past 1,000 days. You da man!
Ryan, you have been leading the way for me since I got here, and you were one of the first BAQs to get me feeling the commitment. So awesome for you to get your comma brother!
'oh yeah'
Great stuff on this thread newbs give it a read and see what quitting KTC style is all about.
Ryan, enjoy the hell out of today, and bag some meat.
Thank you. I cannot lie.... IT FEELS PRETTY DAMN GOOD.

Hell yeah!! Killing the can for 1000 days. I want to thank the founders and keepers of this site. Every man and women that dedicates time and effort to themselves and other people on this site deserve the utmost respect. People helping people. I love it. I would have never been able to do it without them. FogCutters..... what can I say, what a great fucking group of people. Salt of the earth. Crazy as all get out, but damn glad to have them in my corner.

Life is so much better without nicotine. Deep down I knew it would be, I just never had the balls and the tools to get the job done. Along the way I learned that the job is never DONE. It is all about the journey, not the destination.

Damn, I remember this post W2W, and I remember that day. It was a dangerous day in my early quit. Read on. I think I was actually planning a day 100 cave. Some members of the site saw straight through my bullshit and called me out immediately.

That is why I love this site. Addicts need accountability, and often brutal truth.

Keep killing it friends. See you tomorrow.

IG2H
Big congrats IG2H. 1,000 is amazing! Thanks for all the support and good luck with those deer. 'Remshot'
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: pab1964 on October 01, 2015, 11:49:00 AM
Quote from: KingNothing
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Hey Ryan... This was a post from you around day 16. It seems really appropriate to bring up today, as you are out on opening day of deer season, and celebrating 1,000 days of winning!

1,000 days ago you were a complete mess. Walking around mumbling to yourself, hurting, fighting with Mrs Got2 because of your addiction...today you are free! Thanks for all of your help and friendship over this past 1,000 days. You da man!
Ryan, you have been leading the way for me since I got here, and you were one of the first BAQs to get me feeling the commitment. So awesome for you to get your comma brother!
'oh yeah'
Great stuff on this thread newbs give it a read and see what quitting KTC style is all about.
Ryan, enjoy the hell out of today, and bag some meat.
Thank you. I cannot lie.... IT FEELS PRETTY DAMN GOOD.

Hell yeah!! Killing the can for 1000 days. I want to thank the founders and keepers of this site. Every man and women that dedicates time and effort to themselves and other people on this site deserve the utmost respect. People helping people. I love it. I would have never been able to do it without them. FogCutters..... what can I say, what a great fucking group of people. Salt of the earth. Crazy as all get out, but damn glad to have them in my corner.

Life is so much better without nicotine. Deep down I knew it would be, I just never had the balls and the tools to get the job done. Along the way I learned that the job is never DONE. It is all about the journey, not the destination.

Damn, I remember this post W2W, and I remember that day. It was a dangerous day in my early quit. Read on. I think I was actually planning a day 100 cave. Some members of the site saw straight through my bullshit and called me out immediately.

That is why I love this site. Addicts need accountability, and often brutal truth.

Keep killing it friends. See you tomorrow.

IG2H
Big congrats IG2H. 1,000 is amazing! Thanks for all the support and good luck with those deer. 'Remshot'
Hats off to you my friend! Congrats and be proud! Beers on me! Quit on!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: I'm done with chew on October 01, 2015, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: KingNothing
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
I am pretty damn good at everything I do. I should have no reason to think I cant get good at this someday, too. But right now, I suck. Whaa, whaa, whaa. I am even tired of hearing myself whine.

I went to a fishing show today and hated every minute of it. I usually love it and spend hours there. Watching all these people walking around with a fat dip in, spitter in hand. I should be pitying them, being almost 2 weeks in. Nope, instead I wanted to be them. Not a care in the world. They actually have booths giving away free Kodiac and Grizzly. I usually stock up on that shit. Nope, had to walk on by, with the chatter in my head, talking to myself like fucking rainman.

Just getting nervous because of all the chatter about "wanting to quit for yourself" is the only thing that is gonna make it happen. Well I wanted to quit 12 days ago, right now I don't. Not at all, nope, I want it back. The only reason I am marching on is for others, mostly my wife and children but also the committment I make every morning. If it were just me, I would have caved days ago.

Gonna give it the 100 days, if I am still feeling the way I feel today I will be reconsidering the decision. Life is too short to be miserable. I sure hope you all are right about how great it is when everything gets better and easier and smoother and worth it, etc.
Hey Ryan... This was a post from you around day 16. It seems really appropriate to bring up today, as you are out on opening day of deer season, and celebrating 1,000 days of winning!

1,000 days ago you were a complete mess. Walking around mumbling to yourself, hurting, fighting with Mrs Got2 because of your addiction...today you are free! Thanks for all of your help and friendship over this past 1,000 days. You da man!
Ryan, you have been leading the way for me since I got here, and you were one of the first BAQs to get me feeling the commitment. So awesome for you to get your comma brother!
'oh yeah'
Great stuff on this thread newbs give it a read and see what quitting KTC style is all about.
Ryan, enjoy the hell out of today, and bag some meat.
Thank you. I cannot lie.... IT FEELS PRETTY DAMN GOOD.

Hell yeah!! Killing the can for 1000 days. I want to thank the founders and keepers of this site. Every man and women that dedicates time and effort to themselves and other people on this site deserve the utmost respect. People helping people. I love it. I would have never been able to do it without them. FogCutters..... what can I say, what a great fucking group of people. Salt of the earth. Crazy as all get out, but damn glad to have them in my corner.

Life is so much better without nicotine. Deep down I knew it would be, I just never had the balls and the tools to get the job done. Along the way I learned that the job is never DONE. It is all about the journey, not the destination.

Damn, I remember this post W2W, and I remember that day. It was a dangerous day in my early quit. Read on. I think I was actually planning a day 100 cave. Some members of the site saw straight through my bullshit and called me out immediately.

That is why I love this site. Addicts need accountability, and often brutal truth.

Keep killing it friends. See you tomorrow.

IG2H
Big congrats IG2H. 1,000 is amazing! Thanks for all the support and good luck with those deer. 'Remshot'
Hats off to you my friend! Congrats and be proud! Beers on me! Quit on!
Way to show others how to go from a mess to a success! Congrats on such a huge milestone!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 31, 2015, 06:59:00 PM
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wastepanel on December 31, 2015, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on January 01, 2016, 07:38:00 AM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Jlud007 on January 01, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Some good quit up in here today! Happy new year brothers!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: redtrain14 on January 01, 2016, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Some good quit up in here today! Happy new year brothers!
Congrats on 3 years my friend!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Minny on January 06, 2016, 11:49:00 AM
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Some good quit up in here today! Happy new year brothers!
Congrats on 3 years my friend!
Congrats on 3 years, Ryan! You were instrumental in my quit and for that I thank you.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: KingNothing on January 06, 2016, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Some good quit up in here today! Happy new year brothers!
Congrats on 3 years my friend!
Congrats on 3 years, Ryan! You were instrumental in my quit and for that I thank you.
Sorry I missed this Ryan. Congrats my man!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: RedneckRN33 on January 07, 2016, 12:59:00 AM
Hello all. I quit chewing on 01/01/2016, after dipping for 17 years. I have 3 small children 2 of which have special needs so I need to be around for them. I haven't really tried quitting before I would always "pretend" so my wife thought I was trying. I never expected it to be this hard. I hope with help from this group I can be one of the quitters.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on January 08, 2016, 07:19:00 AM
Quote from: RedneckRN33
Hello all. I quit chewing on 01/01/2016, after dipping for 17 years. I have 3 small children 2 of which have special needs so I need to be around for them. I haven't really tried quitting before I would always "pretend" so my wife thought I was trying. I never expected it to be this hard. I hope with help from this group I can be one of the quitters.
Hi man. I see you posted on an intro. And that you are quitting.

It is so hard at first. I'm here to promise you that how you are feeling now is not the new normal. I'm here to promise you that... Since you are quit... You'll never have to relive this hell. And I'm here to promise you that you can do this. If thousands of guys on this site can, you can. But... There is a recipe for success.

Go to the April 2016 quit group. Go to the last page. And post your name and how many days you have been quit. You'll probably screw it up... Which is fine because someone will fix it. Just get your name on there. It is your promise to yourself and a whole team of others going through the same hell that you are that today you will stay nicotine free. And then you keep your word. Because you do not let yourself or your team down. Here is a link to the group. I know it sounds crazy to post. I thought so too... 1,111 days ago.

topic/11465559/154/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11465559/154/)

You should also start your own intro. It will be a great place to track your quit progress. In other words, your journey to winning. I'll be sending this via email, pm, and in this intro. If you need any help at all reach out. Be proud today man. It might feel bad, but you are winning.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: B-loMatt on January 08, 2016, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: KingNothing
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Some good quit up in here today! Happy new year brothers!
Congrats on 3 years my friend!
Congrats on 3 years, Ryan! You were instrumental in my quit and for that I thank you.
Sorry I missed this Ryan. Congrats my man!
Late congrates from me too! Bad Assed Quitter right there.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 08, 2016, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KingNothing
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Some good quit up in here today! Happy new year brothers!
Congrats on 3 years my friend!
Congrats on 3 years, Ryan! You were instrumental in my quit and for that I thank you.
Sorry I missed this Ryan. Congrats my man!
Late congrates from me too! Bad Assed Quitter right there.
Thank you for all the congrats. And hey Redneck, thanks for reminding me what day one was like. I was just like you 3 years ago. I came here and discovered that we don't need to HOPE and we don't need to TRY. We just need to QUIT. And we do that one day at time. I am with you brother. Listen to W2W and get your ass on roll. He provided you with step by step directions and the link. Lets do this.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Quittolive on January 09, 2016, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KingNothing
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Some good quit up in here today! Happy new year brothers!
Congrats on 3 years my friend!
Congrats on 3 years, Ryan! You were instrumental in my quit and for that I thank you.
Sorry I missed this Ryan. Congrats my man!
Late congrates from me too! Bad Assed Quitter right there.
Thank you for all the congrats. And hey Redneck, thanks for reminding me what day one was like. I was just like you 3 years ago. I came here and discovered that we don't need to HOPE and we don't need to TRY. We just need to QUIT. And we do that one day at time. I am with you brother. Listen to W2W and get your ass on roll. He provided you with step by step directions and the link. Lets do this.
Your a Bad Ass Ryan,
Proud to be quit with you!! You motivate me Sir. Glad to know you through our mutual friend Stacy.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 09, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Quote from: quittolive
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: KingNothing
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Another New Years Eve, QLF. I love the quit life. 3 years ago I was pounding down Grizzly wintergreen like it was going out of style. I hated it thoroughly..... BUT I thought I needed it to live.

What a fool I was. Found this place on day 4 and never looked back. Many quit attempts prior to this one but they were all lacking critical elements. Tools, support, accountability. # critical items that are found in abundance on this site.

If you are thinking about quitting, DO IT. Stop thinking about and just do it.

Happy New Year folks.

Its_Got2Happen
Proud as hell of you man.

Although I still contend that it doesn't have to happen, you make it happen.
Great post Ryan! Happy New a Year brother.
Some good quit up in here today! Happy new year brothers!
Congrats on 3 years my friend!
Congrats on 3 years, Ryan! You were instrumental in my quit and for that I thank you.
Sorry I missed this Ryan. Congrats my man!
Late congrates from me too! Bad Assed Quitter right there.
Thank you for all the congrats. And hey Redneck, thanks for reminding me what day one was like. I was just like you 3 years ago. I came here and discovered that we don't need to HOPE and we don't need to TRY. We just need to QUIT. And we do that one day at time. I am with you brother. Listen to W2W and get your ass on roll. He provided you with step by step directions and the link. Lets do this.
Your a Bad Ass Ryan,
Proud to be quit with you!! You motivate me Sir. Glad to know you through our mutual friend Stacy.
Thanks QTL. Glad you found the site. Welcome to freedom. You must be coming close to HOF now. 100 days is not the end of the road. It is the begining.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 14, 2016, 05:14:00 AM
IG2H 1196

Today is the 3rd anniversary of my HOF date. It was a tough time in my life and a real personal struggle to reach that milestone. I recall the pain vividly. I post roll here today, 1196 days later, because I never wish to relive that pain again. I thank God for giving me the grace to finally ask for help. On this website I met other people who shared my desire and common goal and that made all the difference. In all my prior quit attempts I relied solely upon ME and my willpower. I never had help, I never had support, and I never had accountability. It was just me and my can. I could quit for weeks and then "sneak" one. Who would know? Who would care? We that all changed here.

If you are surfing this site and contemplating the idea of quitting, or maybe if you just quit and are in the fog of those first few weeks, listen to me now....

QUITTING IS WORTH IT, YOU ARE WORTH IT, IT IS THE BEST GIFT YOU CAN GIVE YOURSELF. DO IT NOW, DO IT TODAY. YOU ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE YOU DESIRE TO QUIT. PLEASE KNOW THAT THE DESIRE TO QUIT CAN BE FLEETING. THIS COULD BE YOUR ONLY CHANCE. YOU MAY NEVER GET THIS MOMENTUM BACK AGAIN.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 28, 2017, 06:16:00 PM
Need to blow the dust off this old thread. It has been too long.

1759 today. Over $11,000 saved.

Freedom feels so good.

I am so thankful for this site and the many friends made here.

Looking forward to seeing a few of them next week as we connect for a little tour of Detroit.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: worktowin on October 29, 2017, 05:37:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Need to blow the dust off this old thread. It has been too long.

1759 today. Over $11,000 saved.

Freedom feels so good.

I am so thankful for this site and the many friends made here.

Looking forward to seeing a few of them next week as we connect for a little tour of Detroit.
Looking forward to the trip and tearing up Detroit!

This is what 1,700+ days of brotherhood and accountability looks like.