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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: SirDerek on July 04, 2012, 10:41:00 AM
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Well, never thought I would ever hear me say that about myself for anything that I would be involved in, but this is for certain and must be.
Last week I started to wind down the use, and then on July 2nd threw the last into the toilet and flushed, and threw out the can.
Do have the fog right now, and all the other feelings but know I will make this and be done with it.
So far the Hooch substitute, seeds, candy, gum have all been working nicely, though I do know I got a long way to go.
Thanks for listening and all the help I have read from everyone. This will definately end with positives for myself, my wife, 2 sons.
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Derek,
Congratulations on your decision. I know it was the best decision that I have ever made. I would say making the attempt is half the battle, but the battle is not over. Most of the physical symptoms that you will experience and read about occur during the first 3-4 days. The fog may linger a little longer and then come and go for a while. I haven't really had any fog since about the second week of my quit, but every quitter is different. I notice that you said it would be good for your family, and I completely understand that, but everytime you have a crave or are thinking about the Nic Bitch, it is important to remember that ultimately you are quitting for yourself. It is hard to quit and be serious about quitting unless you understand that the quit is for you and no one else. You are almost there man! Get over those first 3-4 days and then the nicotine will have been nearly out of your body. Then the second uphill battle will begin. That is the mental battle and it will stick for the remainder of your life. We are all addicts and it is also important to remember that. Many vets come back to the site after they thought they could have just one. They think they are too good for this website and do not need it anymore. Well they will be back at day 1. Knowing this you can look back and be glad you aren't at day 1 as well. Keep reading... read everything on this website. Drink tons of water. And get exercise...everytime you get a crave, do some sort of exercise. Lastly, is our daily posting, which I see that you have already done. If you post early every day and can keep your word, which I believe you can, how could you not stay quit? Derek, I'll quit with you on the fourth. On a side note and you may already know this, but try to stay away from triggers like alcohol, until you get safely into your quit. Alcohol brings alot of newbies back to day 1. Helms
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Great job posting roll and great day 3. Withdrawal will soon be done. Then comes the mind games of kick the nic bitch in the groin daily. Quit and focus 1 day at a time.
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Great job posting roll and great day 3. Withdrawal will soon be done. Then comes the mind games of kick the nic bitch in the groin daily. Quit and focus 1 day at a time.
This is a wise sherpa.
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Well a special nail in the coffin today, as the 72 hours for the nicotene should now be out of my system has passed. Now its just the mind games.
And looking to a busy weekend as coaching son's 10U baseball team in tounament play with 2 games each on Sat Sun. Bring on the seeds....
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Well a special nail in the coffin today, as the 72 hours for the nicotene should now be out of my system has passed. Now its just the mind games.
And looking to a busy weekend as coaching son's 10U baseball team in tounament play with 2 games each on Sat Sun. Bring on the seeds....
Great job. Stay strong and stay quit. And remember the key to coaching all youth sports...second place is for the first loser. Wait...uh, that doesn't sound right now that I think about it...
Seriously...good luck to the kids, stay strong to you.
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Well a special nail in the coffin today, as the 72 hours for the nicotene should now be out of my system has passed. Now its just the mind games.
And looking to a busy weekend as coaching son's 10U baseball team in tounament play with 2 games each on Sat Sun. Bring on the seeds....
not to be negative but days 4 through 8 were the worst withdrawals for me.
Stay focused and don't let your guard down for one min.
Your not outta the woods yet by far.
Quit for today with you brother.
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Well a special nail in the coffin today, as the 72 hours for the nicotene should now be out of my system has passed. Now its just the mind games.
And looking to a busy weekend as coaching son's 10U baseball team in tounament play with 2 games each on Sat Sun. Bring on the seeds....
not to be negative but days 4 through 8 were the worst withdrawals for me.
Stay focused and don't let your guard down for one min.
Your not outta the woods yet by far.
Quit for today with you brother.
Yes, one of my worst days came after day 4 as well. Gotta tough it out brother. Eat those seeds too! I know I did. Stay quit brother.
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ok I think this is the worst that could happen, and yes I have QUIT through it all as I have promised.
As mentioned this weekend was one of my biggest triggers as was spending 4 ballgames coaching and then watching/scouting the games in between.
Well have made it through, guess mind was preoccupied enough and was able to use my fake Hooch and beef jerky instead.
But it wouldn't stop there. We then had to get my son to boy scout camp to start his week there with the rest of the boys. Well the camp is close to 2 hours away from where we live. We dropped him off and 15 minutes into our trip home, the transmission goes in my car. Here we are stranded after calling triple AAA. You want to know the stress level.... And guess what, I did not touch anything and kept it out of my system.
We have one hell of a close family friend whose 19 year old son drove the 2 hours to pick us up and bring us home (oh yeah BTW he was an Eagle Scout). I guess that is something I can add to my resolve to keep quit as being Clean is part of the boy scout oath that not only I have taken as a leader but now to respect what this boy has done for us.
Well if this is the first week, all else should be a piece of cake.
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Damn bro!!! Talk about being tested!!!! Way to stay strong!!! I was trimming the bushes today and THOUGHT I was being tested. Every time we pass any test, we win a little bit and our confidence grows that we can handle "life" without nicotine.
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Ty Diesel,
and throughout this all, even if I am in tears, from all this stress and exhaustion, I know in my heart that the nic bitch is lying in the coffin with the nails in it and never to come out again.
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Ty Diesel,
and throughout this all, even if I am in tears, from all this stress and exhaustion, I know in my heart that the nic bitch is lying in the coffin with the nails in it and never to come out again.
Derek I'm with you also a scout master and eagle scout and have been re evaluating my Oath and Promise. My new resolve is to be a better example to the young men that are in my troop. I commend you for keeping your promise and observing such important lessons as you continue to pound those nails in the coffin one day at a time with me and all the rest of us addicts.
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Congrats Derek! I knew you were a strong quitter when you first came here.... you haven't let me down. Keep beating her ass back!
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Well am into the double digits, 12 to be exact. Most of the symptoms seem to be gone, but still using the seeds, gun, candy and all. I do say the taste buds are a changing as actually had to turn away from a rather tart key lime cheesecake at dinner last night. And tonight would joke and say its about that bakers dozen of 13 and I am eating the baker (fridge is about empty as finally got full hunger back).
So overall things are going great. Am feeling good and got a great group of quiiters in that Oct 12 group with Eric, Jag, Sambo, Divine, 2mch, Kre, Gazelle and the rest.
Lets do this all and bury this nic bitch in all of our pasts. I will take the oath again tommorrow.
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Well am into the double digits, 12 to be exact. Most of the symptoms seem to be gone, but still using the seeds, gun, candy and all. I do say the taste buds are a changing as actually had to turn away from a rather tart key lime cheesecake at dinner last night. And tonight would joke and say its about that bakers dozen of 13 and I am eating the baker (fridge is about empty as finally got full hunger back).
So overall things are going great. Am feeling good and got a great group of quiiters in that Oct 12 group with Eric, Jag, Sambo, Divine, 2mch, Kre, Gazelle and the rest.
Lets do this all and bury this nic bitch in all of our pasts. I will take the oath again tommorrow.
Keep going brother, I'll quit w/you everyday, one at a time, see you at roll call.
Eric
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Well am into the double digits, 12 to be exact. Most of the symptoms seem to be gone, but still using the seeds, gun, candy and all. I do say the taste buds are a changing as actually had to turn away from a rather tart key lime cheesecake at dinner last night. And tonight would joke and say its about that bakers dozen of 13 and I am eating the baker (fridge is about empty as finally got full hunger back).
So overall things are going great. Am feeling good and got a great group of quiiters in that Oct 12 group with Eric, Jag, Sambo, Divine, 2mch, Kre, Gazelle and the rest.
Lets do this all and bury this nic bitch in all of our pasts. I will take the oath again tommorrow.
Keep going brother, I'll quit w/you everyday, one at a time, see you at roll call.
Eric
It's a process bro. A long process. Glad things seem to have smoothed a bit you. Rest and prepare yourself for the next battle.
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Well am into the double digits, 12 to be exact. Most of the symptoms seem to be gone, but still using the seeds, gun, candy and all. I do say the taste buds are a changing as actually had to turn away from a rather tart key lime cheesecake at dinner last night. And tonight would joke and say its about that bakers dozen of 13 and I am eating the baker (fridge is about empty as finally got full hunger back).
So overall things are going great. Am feeling good and got a great group of quiiters in that Oct 12 group with Eric, Jag, Sambo, Divine, 2mch, Kre, Gazelle and the rest.
Lets do this all and bury this nic bitch in all of our pasts. I will take the oath again tommorrow.
Keep going brother, I'll quit w/you everyday, one at a time, see you at roll call.
Eric
It's a process bro. A long process. Glad things seem to have smoothed a bit you. Rest and prepare yourself for the next battle.
cmark~ SirD ... dude U rock .. keep up the good work ... love seeing you post roll and in chat ...
lemme know if I can help..
Cheers mark
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well onto day 17. Things are going well. Picked up my MIA car with a newly rebuilt transmission. Good Thing. Payment to shop,,,, Bad Thing. And forgot....smell of spilled dip within the car that had not been cleaned since I QUIT, VERY BAD THING.
Well made it that 90 minutes on the drive home...reminder to myself - VACCUUM.
Got 1 more big hurdle that I have not yet faced and that will be the camping/hiking weekend with the boy scouts. I will get to that in another 3 weeks or so.
But until then I will take one day at a time and fight my quit with my brothers and sisters of Rockober
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well onto day 17. Things are going well. Picked up my MIA car with a newly rebuilt transmission. Good Thing. Payment to shop,,,, Bad Thing. And forgot....smell of spilled dip within the car that had not been cleaned since I QUIT, VERY BAD THING.
Well made it that 90 minutes on the drive home...reminder to myself - VACCUUM.
Got 1 more big hurdle that I have not yet faced and that will be the camping/hiking weekend with the boy scouts. I will get to that in another 3 weeks or so.
But until then I will take one day at a time and fight my quit with my brothers and sisters of Rockober
FUCKING YES. You're going to have a hard time on those hikes carrying gigantic balls of steel.
Nice work.
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well onto day 17. Things are going well. Picked up my MIA car with a newly rebuilt transmission. Good Thing. Payment to shop,,,, Bad Thing. And forgot....smell of spilled dip within the car that had not been cleaned since I QUIT, VERY BAD THING.
Well made it that 90 minutes on the drive home...reminder to myself - VACCUUM.
Got 1 more big hurdle that I have not yet faced and that will be the camping/hiking weekend with the boy scouts. I will get to that in another 3 weeks or so.
But until then I will take one day at a time and fight my quit with my brothers and sisters of Rockober
FUCKING YES. You're going to have a hard time on those hikes carrying gigantic balls of steel.
Nice work.
Agreed, get some moleskin. With those balls, you don't want chafing.
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well onto day 17. Things are going well. Picked up my MIA car with a newly rebuilt transmission. Good Thing. Payment to shop,,,, Bad Thing. And forgot....smell of spilled dip within the car that had not been cleaned since I QUIT, VERY BAD THING.
Well made it that 90 minutes on the drive home...reminder to myself - VACCUUM.
Got 1 more big hurdle that I have not yet faced and that will be the camping/hiking weekend with the boy scouts. I will get to that in another 3 weeks or so.
But until then I will take one day at a time and fight my quit with my brothers and sisters of Rockober
FUCKING YES. You're going to have a hard time on those hikes carrying gigantic balls of steel.
Nice work.
Agreed, get some moleskin. With those balls, you don't want chafing.
Good stuff brother I always enjoy reading about daily victories!
Keep on keeping on!
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well onto day 17. Things are going well. Picked up my MIA car with a newly rebuilt transmission. Good Thing. Payment to shop,,,, Bad Thing. And forgot....smell of spilled dip within the car that had not been cleaned since I QUIT, VERY BAD THING.
Well made it that 90 minutes on the drive home...reminder to myself - VACCUUM.
Got 1 more big hurdle that I have not yet faced and that will be the camping/hiking weekend with the boy scouts. I will get to that in another 3 weeks or so.
But until then I will take one day at a time and fight my quit with my brothers and sisters of Rockober
FUCKING YES. You're going to have a hard time on those hikes carrying gigantic balls of steel.
Nice work.
Agreed, get some moleskin. With those balls, you don't want chafing.
Good stuff brother I always enjoy reading about daily victories!
Keep on keeping on!
Hunting, Fishing, Hiking, and anything outdoors will be hard for sure but I am not giving in under any circumstance and neither are you! I don't give a fuck if I have a warm barreled .45 pointed to my temple, You will not break me!!!!!!
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well onto day 17. Things are going well. Picked up my MIA car with a newly rebuilt transmission. Good Thing. Payment to shop,,,, Bad Thing. And forgot....smell of spilled dip within the car that had not been cleaned since I QUIT, VERY BAD THING.
Well made it that 90 minutes on the drive home...reminder to myself - VACCUUM.
Got 1 more big hurdle that I have not yet faced and that will be the camping/hiking weekend with the boy scouts. I will get to that in another 3 weeks or so.
But until then I will take one day at a time and fight my quit with my brothers and sisters of Rockober
FUCKING YES. You're going to have a hard time on those hikes carrying gigantic balls of steel.
Nice work.
Agreed, get some moleskin. With those balls, you don't want chafing.
Good stuff brother I always enjoy reading about daily victories!
Keep on keeping on!
Hunting, Fishing, Hiking, and anything outdoors will be hard for sure but I am not giving in under any circumstance and neither are you! I don't give a fuck if I have a warm barreled .45 pointed to my temple, You will not break me!!!!!!
This is my first summer in 29 years without nic. It has been amazing so far. I've saved over $800 so far, haven't spilled my spit can in the boat or camper and haven't run out of chew in a town with all the stores closed for the night.
I love being nic free. I still get craves everyday but I have learned to deal with the craves thanks to this site.
All you got to do is quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow. Keep it going brother.
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well onto day 17. Things are going well. Picked up my MIA car with a newly rebuilt transmission. Good Thing. Payment to shop,,,, Bad Thing. And forgot....smell of spilled dip within the car that had not been cleaned since I QUIT, VERY BAD THING.
Well made it that 90 minutes on the drive home...reminder to myself - VACCUUM.
Got 1 more big hurdle that I have not yet faced and that will be the camping/hiking weekend with the boy scouts. I will get to that in another 3 weeks or so.
But until then I will take one day at a time and fight my quit with my brothers and sisters of Rockober
FUCKING YES. You're going to have a hard time on those hikes carrying gigantic balls of steel.
Nice work.
Agreed, get some moleskin. With those balls, you don't want chafing.
Good stuff brother I always enjoy reading about daily victories!
Keep on keeping on!
Hunting, Fishing, Hiking, and anything outdoors will be hard for sure but I am not giving in under any circumstance and neither are you! I don't give a fuck if I have a warm barreled .45 pointed to my temple, You will not break me!!!!!!
This is my first summer in 29 years without nic. It has been amazing so far. I've saved over $800 so far, haven't spilled my spit can in the boat or camper and haven't run out of chew in a town with all the stores closed for the night.
I love being nic free. I still get craves everyday but I have learned to deal with the craves thanks to this site.
All you got to do is quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow. Keep it going brother.
Sir I also had that boy scout camp out last week felt good to come out the other end nic free! Was worried about posting but I did get limited cell coverage and posted! Quit on!!!
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alright - comming up on the Weekend pushing the 4 week/1 month Quit. Finally got a great night sleep so today am feeling great and hope from that standpoint it continues. cravings are lessening and growing more and more apart, Now just to try and even use the 'other stuff' less and less as the 23 year habit of just having something in my mouth is the hardest to break ok ok insert your jokes here
getting great help from wife (has picked me up more candy, seeds and shredded beef jerky)
also great support from the rest of you all here, the vets and my Oct bros and sis.
so I keep fighting each and every day, my armor is in place. Keeping my word to you all with sword at the ready to kill the bitch each day.
Madman to the core here QLAFM
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alright - comming up on the Weekend pushing the 4 week/1 month Quit. Finally got a great night sleep so today am feeling great and hope from that standpoint it continues. cravings are lessening and growing more and more apart, Now just to try and even use the 'other stuff' less and less as the 23 year habit of just having something in my mouth is the hardest to break ok ok insert your jokes here
getting great help from wife (has picked me up more candy, seeds and shredded beef jerky)
also great support from the rest of you all here, the vets and my Oct bros and sis.
so I keep fighting each and every day, my armor is in place. Keeping my word to you all with sword at the ready to kill the bitch each day.
Madman to the core here QLAFM
Good stuff, Great plan!
Keep the focus and enjoy the freedom brother!
The nic-bitch is a very sneaky Whore she will wait til you have your guard down and start to whisper in your ear!!!!
Stay focused,stay Strong and most of all stay QUIT!!!
You are on the right track and everything will be better but dont let your guard down!
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alright - comming up on the Weekend pushing the 4 week/1 month Quit. Finally got a great night sleep so today am feeling great and hope from that standpoint it continues. cravings are lessening and growing more and more apart, Now just to try and even use the 'other stuff' less and less as the 23 year habit of just having something in my mouth is the hardest to break ok ok insert your jokes here
getting great help from wife (has picked me up more candy, seeds and shredded beef jerky)
also great support from the rest of you all here, the vets and my Oct bros and sis.
so I keep fighting each and every day, my armor is in place. Keeping my word to you all with sword at the ready to kill the bitch each day.
Madman to the core here QLAFM
Good stuff SD, remember man reach out if you have too, sounds like you got a real good idea of how to beat this crap though..... Proud to quit with you today
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Keep it Up Derek,
I'm on day 29. Our WD is following about the same - I'm starting to consistently get better sleep, my appetite is back and it's hard to keep from snacking all day.
I'm feeling a lot better and I'm starting to enjoy the things that I don't miss about snuff. It's nice to not have dragon breath. My tongue and gums don't light on fire when I eat acidic foods. I don't have spit cups laying around my house and in my car. I look people in the eyes when I talk to them b/c I don't have that shit in my mouth.
But - it's far from over. Every now and then a full blow crave will hit me. The other night I went to chill on the couch and my brain went that direction. But I haven't felt overwhelmed by any of my craves because I'm very determined. I have noticed that the crave's are a lot more short lived.
See you in October.
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We are addicts gentlemen. We will always have craves and we will always try to justify having a chew. There is no "only one" or "just this one". So stick to your plan. Seeds, gum, chat, fap, text your bro, whatever it takes. You will find it easier to beat the craves and move on.
I have used tobacco for close to 30 years. Almost my whole adult life. Everything is new without dip. You can smell and taste food.
Have a great weekend guys
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alright - comming up on the Weekend pushing the 4 week/1 month Quit. Finally got a great night sleep so today am feeling great and hope from that standpoint it continues. cravings are lessening and growing more and more apart, Now just to try and even use the 'other stuff' less and less as the 23 year habit of just having something in my mouth is the hardest to break ok ok insert your jokes here
getting great help from wife (has picked me up more candy, seeds and shredded beef jerky)
also great support from the rest of you all here, the vets and my Oct bros and sis.
so I keep fighting each and every day, my armor is in place. Keeping my word to you all with sword at the ready to kill the bitch each day.
Madman to the core here QLAFM
Fuck yea Bro! That is what it's about right there. I stand with you today, and everyday! We will not fail, to the CORE!
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alright - comming up on the Weekend pushing the 4 week/1 month Quit. Finally got a great night sleep so today am feeling great and hope from that standpoint it continues. cravings are lessening and growing more and more apart, Now just to try and even use the 'other stuff' less and less as the 23 year habit of just having something in my mouth is the hardest to break ok ok insert your jokes here
getting great help from wife (has picked me up more candy, seeds and shredded beef jerky)
also great support from the rest of you all here, the vets and my Oct bros and sis.
so I keep fighting each and every day, my armor is in place. Keeping my word to you all with sword at the ready to kill the bitch each day.
Madman to the core here QLAFM
Fuck yea Bro! That is what it's about right there. I stand with you today, and everyday! We will not fail, to the CORE!
These days will become more frequent and eventually be the way your life is. Freedom is an amazing thing.. fight for it.
STAY QUIT
Greg
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alright - comming up on the Weekend pushing the 4 week/1 month Quit. Finally got a great night sleep so today am feeling great and hope from that standpoint it continues. cravings are lessening and growing more and more apart, Now just to try and even use the 'other stuff' less and less as the 23 year habit of just having something in my mouth is the hardest to break ok ok insert your jokes here
getting great help from wife (has picked me up more candy, seeds and shredded beef jerky)
also great support from the rest of you all here, the vets and my Oct bros and sis.
so I keep fighting each and every day, my armor is in place. Keeping my word to you all with sword at the ready to kill the bitch each day.
Madman to the core here QLAFM
Fuck yea Bro! That is what it's about right there. I stand with you today, and everyday! We will not fail, to the CORE!
These days will become more frequent and eventually be the way your life is. Freedom is an amazing thing.. fight for it.
STAY QUIT
Greg
Fighting with you every step of the way brother. October foxholes are full of some badasses. We've just got to keep on quittin' on, everyday, one at a time.
Full on QLAFM!
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Alright all, hitting the mid 30's (today Friday is 33 with the weekend being 34 and 35). And I think this weekend is the longest in the year. It is the son's county swim championships where we will be gone each day from 6-6:30 in the morning until after 8:00 at night, all outside in what they are calling for 90+ degree heat.
Now in the past this used to be a 3 can weekend where would enjoy sitting around getting up to go watch them swim then right back into the chair. Now am gathering the stuff I will need to keep my mind off it.
Been having the cravings every once and a while, they almost it me like a wave. Some are strong, some weak, but facing each one as they hit, and staying quit. Of course after 23 years of having something constantly in my mouth I still look for things (maybe I should buy stock in some candy company with the amount I am going through, sugarless of course). Actually am surprising myself being this far in and how strong I have been able to remain. Am so glad I made this decision over a month ago.
Well am off to pack up, all the food, drinks, chairs, activities.....and off to remain QUIT for the weekend.
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Alright all, hitting the mid 30's (today Friday is 33 with the weekend being 34 and 35). And I think this weekend is the longest in the year. It is the son's county swim championships where we will be gone each day from 6-6:30 in the morning until after 8:00 at night, all outside in what they are calling for 90+ degree heat.
Now in the past this used to be a 3 can weekend where would enjoy sitting around getting up to go watch them swim then right back into the chair. Now am gathering the stuff I will need to keep my mind off it.
Been having the cravings every once and a while, they almost it me like a wave. Some are strong, some weak, but facing each one as they hit, and staying quit. Of course after 23 years of having something constantly in my mouth I still look for things (maybe I should buy stock in some candy company with the amount I am going through, sugarless of course). Actually am surprising myself being this far in and how strong I have been able to remain. Am so glad I made this decision over a month ago.
Well am off to pack up, all the food, drinks, chairs, activities.....and off to remain QUIT for the weekend.
Feeling the same way brother,hang in there keep doing what got you to today.
QLAFM
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Alright all, hitting the mid 30's (today Friday is 33 with the weekend being 34 and 35). And I think this weekend is the longest in the year. It is the son's county swim championships where we will be gone each day from 6-6:30 in the morning until after 8:00 at night, all outside in what they are calling for 90+ degree heat.
Now in the past this used to be a 3 can weekend where would enjoy sitting around getting up to go watch them swim then right back into the chair. Now am gathering the stuff I will need to keep my mind off it.
Been having the cravings every once and a while, they almost it me like a wave. Some are strong, some weak, but facing each one as they hit, and staying quit. Of course after 23 years of having something constantly in my mouth I still look for things (maybe I should buy stock in some candy company with the amount I am going through, sugarless of course). Actually am surprising myself being this far in and how strong I have been able to remain. Am so glad I made this decision over a month ago.
Well am off to pack up, all the food, drinks, chairs, activities.....and off to remain QUIT for the weekend.
Feeling the same way brother,hang in there keep doing what got you to today.
QLAFM
Screw three days thinking. You aren't out of the woods. Trick your addicted mind back. Remember the basics...only quit, promise, and fight today. There is no tomorrow. When tomorrow becomes today...repeat.
If you think long term, your addicted mind has power and you will have chinks in your armor!
Stay strong today! Who cares about tomorrow? It never comes. It's always today and tomorrow never comes. Just repeat today.
Later, oh undefeated! Always fun to look back! 143 to 0 because I always focused my match on today.
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Alright all, hitting the mid 30's (today Friday is 33 with the weekend being 34 and 35). And I think this weekend is the longest in the year. It is the son's county swim championships where we will be gone each day from 6-6:30 in the morning until after 8:00 at night, all outside in what they are calling for 90+ degree heat.
Now in the past this used to be a 3 can weekend where would enjoy sitting around getting up to go watch them swim then right back into the chair. Now am gathering the stuff I will need to keep my mind off it.
Been having the cravings every once and a while, they almost it me like a wave. Some are strong, some weak, but facing each one as they hit, and staying quit. Of course after 23 years of having something constantly in my mouth I still look for things (maybe I should buy stock in some candy company with the amount I am going through, sugarless of course). Actually am surprising myself being this far in and how strong I have been able to remain. Am so glad I made this decision over a month ago.
Well am off to pack up, all the food, drinks, chairs, activities.....and off to remain QUIT for the weekend.
Feeling the same way brother,hang in there keep doing what got you to today.
QLAFM
Screw three days thinking. You aren't out of the woods. Trick your addicted mind back. Remember the basics...only quit, promise, and fight today. There is no tomorrow. When tomorrow becomes today...repeat.
If you think long term, your addicted mind has power and you will have chinks in your armor!
Stay strong today! Who cares about tomorrow? It never comes. It's always today and tomorrow never comes. Just repeat today.
Later, oh undefeated! Always fun to look back! 143 to 0 because I always focused my match on today.
This will be a post you're going to look back on Derek as an early defining moment in your quit. Heed MThomas' advice, think about today and today only. Craves mean nothing since you've posted roll. You are a man of your word. Integrity slays insolence everytime.
Proud to QLAFM w/you today
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Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
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Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
ok now that I am back to my 'normal' there was one more observation that I needed to write in here from this past weekend.
Had been introduced to another swim parent from a boy on another team. This gentleman not only could I barely understand when he spoke, and think it was due to the golf ball size dip he had in his lip. I think this was the very first time that when looking at another dipper that I was actually grossed out by it.
Now when I dipped I was never that bad, most from sight never knew I had it in, but I take this time to apologize as I never realized how gross it looked.
WOW I am so glad I made this decision.
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Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
ok now that I am back to my 'normal' there was one more observation that I needed to write in here from this past weekend.
Had been introduced to another swim parent from a boy on another team. This gentleman not only could I barely understand when he spoke, and think it was due to the golf ball size dip he had in his lip. I think this was the very first time that when looking at another dipper that I was actually grossed out by it.
Now when I dipped I was never that bad, most from sight never knew I had it in, but I take this time to apologize as I never realized how gross it looked.
WOW I am so glad I made this decision.
Way to go Sir!!!
You kicked the nic bitches ass yet again even after being taunted by her and gave her an extra inch of quit dick to gag on. I find my self getting grossed out when other people have cat turds in their mouth. I just can't believe how fucking disgusting it was to sit around spitting in a bottle and watch it fill up with cancer juice. 'bang head' Keep up the quit you BAD ASS QUITTER!!
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Day 42 -
What I learned this weekend- Well that's it, speding the weekend with the boy scouts, out camping, both mornings the first one up at 6:00. Alone and sitting there. Boy it is so beautiful from the morning dew, to the little stream next to where we camped, the morning sky, and oh yeah....NOT a speck of crap in my lip.
This was my last major hurdle that I can imaging for my schedule. All of my MAJOR activities that I had always linked to dipping (coaching baseball, watching swimming, scout camping), along with going back to the stores where I had always purchased, have been successfully faced and I have not caved.
Now with the major obstacles done, I need to keep my guard, my shield and sword on the ready for the minor advances from the lady nic. You are not getting to me anymore. Bring on each day, tommorrow first and then those after that a day at a time.
I am both shocked and proud of myself to say that after 7 weeks I am still a Quitter.
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Day 51 -
actually after a decent night sleep.
What the hell was that yesterday, now I have been told of the funks and the ups and downs with the enery level, as had hit a couple of low levels since the last post, but crikey, where was it written that on Day 50 I would have almost an all day crave that rivaled the first few days...like a day 4 or 5?
But anyway thanks to those in chat you helped more than you know for just being in there.
I made it through that and now its on the backside, one day at a time, as I keep my armor on and fight this to freedom.
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Day 51 -
actually after a decent night sleep.
What the hell was that yesterday, now I have been told of the funks and the ups and downs with the enery level, as had hit a couple of low levels since the last post, but crikey, where was it written that on Day 50 I would have almost an all day crave that rivaled the first few days...like a day 4 or 5?
But anyway thanks to those in chat you helped more than you know for just being in there.
I made it through that and now its on the backside, one day at a time, as I keep my armor on and fight this to freedom.
It's days like yesterday that give your quit great worth and value. Hold on to it.
Good work and way to use the tools. You earned the 1/2 HOF Merit Badge.
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Day 51 -
actually after a decent night sleep.
What the hell was that yesterday, now I have been told of the funks and the ups and downs with the enery level, as had hit a couple of low levels since the last post, but crikey, where was it written that on Day 50 I would have almost an all day crave that rivaled the first few days...like a day 4 or 5?
But anyway thanks to those in chat you helped more than you know for just being in there.
I made it through that and now its on the backside, one day at a time, as I keep my armor on and fight this to freedom.
congrats on over 1/2 way to hof sirD, glad to be a madman with you. Thank you for all you do for our group and for being a role model even when you don't know that you are being one to many of us.
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Day 67 -
Well 2/3 way to the hall. Been sort of cruising the last 2 weeks and doing alot of thinking with what I wanted to note down in here to remember when I look back at it.
- Realization, made since I help keep the spreadsheet, is that those that post on a regular basis (80% participation) are the ones that stay quit longer, as in our quit group those are the brothers and sisters that are still around.
- A huge believe realized to take what I can from any/everything, and any/everybody on the site. There are those things that have gotten to my inner self which have boiled my blood, but need to hold the course, without too much emotion getting in the way of the main focus: my QUIT.
For those from the 'older' quit groups, thank you not only for what you have done with the site but for your support
For those from the 'younger' quit groups, I hope that I have been and continue to show you the type of support that you deserve.
- Here is the realization of the hidden part of the site and that is the pay it forward mentality where I hope that I can provide and give to those 'newbies' a helping hand to get them started along the path to a better clean life.
So I guess the thinking over the past 2 weeks + has been an awakening of sorts that will give me the strength to make it to the 100 day HOF and beyond, one day at a time.
Oh and here is one from the medical side, as blood pressure is down to 132/84 (lowest in years). So quitting was not such a bad idea for that...
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Day 67 -
Well 2/3 way to the hall. Been sort of cruising the last 2 weeks and doing alot of thinking with what I wanted to note down in here to remember when I look back at it.
- Realization, made since I help keep the spreadsheet, is that those that post on a regular basis (80% participation) are the ones that stay quit longer, as in our quit group those are the brothers and sisters that are still around.
- A huge believe realized to take what I can from any/everything, and any/everybody on the site. There are those things that have gotten to my inner self which have boiled my blood, but need to hold the course, without too much emotion getting in the way of the main focus: my QUIT.
For those from the 'older' quit groups, thank you not only for what you have done with the site but for your support
For those from the 'younger' quit groups, I hope that I have been and continue to show you the type of support that you deserve.
- Here is the realization of the hidden part of the site and that is the pay it forward mentality where I hope that I can provide and give to those 'newbies' a helping hand to get them started along the path to a better clean life.
So I guess the thinking over the past 2 weeks + has been an awakening of sorts that will give me the strength to make it to the 100 day HOF and beyond, one day at a time.
Sir D,
Just wanted to let you know that you have definitely been an inspiration to me ever since I came to this site. I am glad to be part of the Rocktober madmen of quit group with you and look forward to seeing us all through the HOF. You are kicking ass on a daily basis and thats all anyone can ask of you. Stay strong stay quit and see you at the HOF brother!!!
kstamp
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Day 75 -
Got a real good feeling today when I woke. Now most people that know me would describe me as a safe, nice, calm, friendly.....you get the picture.
Well had a nice little experience yesterday that had been unlike myself of the past.
Try this scenario - An e-mail that started with 'Hello Derek' was sent to a shared e-mail address for my son's swim team. Now we have a fundraising meet/event comming up where I am the 'volunteer' meet director, so the e-mail being addressed to me was no surprise. What was a surprise is that someone else with access to that shared mail goes "I'll reply".
My thoughts when I saw this was "Are you Derek?" to which answer is no. My second though with this person who has history of steppng on peoples toes was "Then do you want to take over this volunteer position that I have been doing successfully for 4 years?"
Well I don't know whether its the QUIT talking and the personal strength I am gaining from it, or whether it was the timing with Brother Jag speaking up or what, but the nice guy had enough and spoke his mind.
And yes I am still the director, and I replied to the e-mail. And am feeling stronger than ever.
thanks for listening
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yes, yes, yes SirD, I thought I was the only one!!!!!! I too when I was a dipper was mr. congenial, everything is okay, mr. smiles...
Nowadays, it is ON all the time. Especially when it is suppose to be ON!!!! In other words, NOW WE CAN speak what is really going on in our heads because we have OXYGEN getting to the BRAIN!!!!!!!!
Enjoy the REAL YOU brother SirD. I am enjoying it too. Wife says that I am "home" now.
Have a super duper weekend SirD. 'bang head'
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yes, yes, yes SirD, I thought I was the only one!!!!!! I too when I was a dipper was mr. congenial, everything is okay, mr. smiles...
Nowadays, it is ON all the time. Especially when it is suppose to be ON!!!! In other words, NOW WE CAN speak what is really going on in our heads because we have OXYGEN getting to the BRAIN!!!!!!!!
Enjoy the REAL YOU brother SirD. I am enjoying it too. Wife says that I am "home" now.
Have a super duper weekend SirD. 'bang head'
Not so cool hand Luke anymore there Derek? What, Jag and I rubbing off on you a little too much? It's good once in a while to let people know that you are a nice guy and will do nearly anything for someone, but, just don't try to take advantage of that fact and exploit it.
BTW, nice bit of research work in posting Nodiak's bit about irregular posters, it hit the nail on the head.
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Day 75 -
Got a real good feeling today when I woke. Now most people that know me would describe me as a safe, nice, calm, friendly.....you get the picture.
Well had a nice little experience yesterday that had been unlike myself of the past.
Try this scenario - An e-mail that started with 'Hello Derek' was sent to a shared e-mail address for my son's swim team. Now we have a fundraising meet/event comming up where I am the 'volunteer' meet director, so the e-mail being addressed to me was no surprise. What was a surprise is that someone else with access to that shared mail goes "I'll reply".
My thoughts when I saw this was "Are you Derek?" to which answer is no. My second though with this person who has history of steppng on peoples toes was "Then do you want to take over this volunteer position that I have been doing successfully for 4 years?"
Well I don't know whether its the QUIT talking and the personal strength I am gaining from it, or whether it was the timing with Brother Jag speaking up or what, but the nice guy had enough and spoke his mind.
And yes I am still the director, and I replied to the e-mail. And am feeling stronger than ever.
thanks for listening
I wouldn't expect anything less from you my brotha!
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Day 75 -
Got a real good feeling today when I woke. Now most people that know me would describe me as a safe, nice, calm, friendly.....you get the picture.
Well had a nice little experience yesterday that had been unlike myself of the past.
Try this scenario - An e-mail that started with 'Hello Derek' was sent to a shared e-mail address for my son's swim team. Now we have a fundraising meet/event comming up where I am the 'volunteer' meet director, so the e-mail being addressed to me was no surprise. What was a surprise is that someone else with access to that shared mail goes "I'll reply".
My thoughts when I saw this was "Are you Derek?" to which answer is no. My second though with this person who has history of steppng on peoples toes was "Then do you want to take over this volunteer position that I have been doing successfully for 4 years?"
Well I don't know whether its the QUIT talking and the personal strength I am gaining from it, or whether it was the timing with Brother Jag speaking up or what, but the nice guy had enough and spoke his mind.
And yes I am still the director, and I replied to the e-mail. And am feeling stronger than ever.
thanks for listening
I wouldn't expect anything less from you my brotha!
Happy to have helped you through it. LOL. Sometimes, mother fuckers have to be put in their place. My philosophy, I want you to like me, but if you don't, I dont give a FUCK. Rock on MADMAN!!!
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Day 67 -
Well 2/3 way to the hall. Been sort of cruising the last 2 weeks and doing alot of thinking with what I wanted to note down in here to remember when I look back at it.
- Realization, made since I help keep the spreadsheet, is that those that post on a regular basis (80% participation) are the ones that stay quit longer, as in our quit group those are the brothers and sisters that are still around.
- A huge believe realized to take what I can from any/everything, and any/everybody on the site. There are those things that have gotten to my inner self which have boiled my blood, but need to hold the course, without too much emotion getting in the way of the main focus: my QUIT.
For those from the 'older' quit groups, thank you not only for what you have done with the site but for your support
For those from the 'younger' quit groups, I hope that I have been and continue to show you the type of support that you deserve.
- Here is the realization of the hidden part of the site and that is the pay it forward mentality where I hope that I can provide and give to those 'newbies' a helping hand to get them started along the path to a better clean life.
So I guess the thinking over the past 2 weeks + has been an awakening of sorts that will give me the strength to make it to the 100 day HOF and beyond, one day at a time.
Sir D,
Just wanted to let you know that you have definitely been an inspiration to me ever since I came to this site. I am glad to be part of the Rocktober madmen of quit group with you and look forward to seeing us all through the HOF. You are kicking ass on a daily basis and thats all anyone can ask of you. Stay strong stay quit and see you at the HOF brother!!!
kstamp
He is an inspiration to all of us Fly. He is the cool, calm and collected one of the original 3 Madmen. I treasure his attitude and his accountability....
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Day 67 -
Well 2/3 way to the hall. Been sort of cruising the last 2 weeks and doing alot of thinking with what I wanted to note down in here to remember when I look back at it.
- Realization, made since I help keep the spreadsheet, is that those that post on a regular basis (80% participation) are the ones that stay quit longer, as in our quit group those are the brothers and sisters that are still around.
- A huge believe realized to take what I can from any/everything, and any/everybody on the site. There are those things that have gotten to my inner self which have boiled my blood, but need to hold the course, without too much emotion getting in the way of the main focus: my QUIT.
For those from the 'older' quit groups, thank you not only for what you have done with the site but for your support
For those from the 'younger' quit groups, I hope that I have been and continue to show you the type of support that you deserve.
- Here is the realization of the hidden part of the site and that is the pay it forward mentality where I hope that I can provide and give to those 'newbies' a helping hand to get them started along the path to a better clean life.
So I guess the thinking over the past 2 weeks + has been an awakening of sorts that will give me the strength to make it to the 100 day HOF and beyond, one day at a time.
Sir D,
Just wanted to let you know that you have definitely been an inspiration to me ever since I came to this site. I am glad to be part of the Rocktober madmen of quit group with you and look forward to seeing us all through the HOF. You are kicking ass on a daily basis and thats all anyone can ask of you. Stay strong stay quit and see you at the HOF brother!!!
kstamp
He is an inspiration to all of us Fly. He is the cool, calm and collected one of the original 3 Madmen. I treasure his attitude and his accountability....
SD I am proud to call you a quit brother
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Day 67 -
Well 2/3 way to the hall. Been sort of cruising the last 2 weeks and doing alot of thinking with what I wanted to note down in here to remember when I look back at it.
- Realization, made since I help keep the spreadsheet, is that those that post on a regular basis (80% participation) are the ones that stay quit longer, as in our quit group those are the brothers and sisters that are still around.
- A huge believe realized to take what I can from any/everything, and any/everybody on the site. There are those things that have gotten to my inner self which have boiled my blood, but need to hold the course, without too much emotion getting in the way of the main focus: my QUIT.
For those from the 'older' quit groups, thank you not only for what you have done with the site but for your support
For those from the 'younger' quit groups, I hope that I have been and continue to show you the type of support that you deserve.
- Here is the realization of the hidden part of the site and that is the pay it forward mentality where I hope that I can provide and give to those 'newbies' a helping hand to get them started along the path to a better clean life.
So I guess the thinking over the past 2 weeks + has been an awakening of sorts that will give me the strength to make it to the 100 day HOF and beyond, one day at a time.
Sir D,
Just wanted to let you know that you have definitely been an inspiration to me ever since I came to this site. I am glad to be part of the Rocktober madmen of quit group with you and look forward to seeing us all through the HOF. You are kicking ass on a daily basis and thats all anyone can ask of you. Stay strong stay quit and see you at the HOF brother!!!
kstamp
He is an inspiration to all of us Fly. He is the cool, calm and collected one of the original 3 Madmen. I treasure his attitude and his accountability....
SD I am proud to call you a quit brother
The reason and logic of the madmen has spoken, all heed the words of Sir D. Well thought out my friend, good find. Proud of you and your quit, glad you are with us.
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Day 79 -
Ok see that Eric slightly beat me to one side of a thought comming out of the weekend, however as I went to sleep last night a Shining Ah-Ha moment hit me a little about this site and how it should be considered. I sum it up with the words of:
Welcome to the Neighborhood
For instance when we move in real life, we move into a house, townhome, apartment, we get settled in and then we go out and meet the neighbors (who initially are strangers) and we talk, become friends, and exchange the personal information like phone numbers for the times that we need them to watch our house while we are on vacation or the like. Then once all settled in we look to the vacancies and treat those who move in with the same friendship that we had been shown.
Well when I signed up here at KTC on my day 2, it was like moving. I was being surrounded by a bunch of strangers that I was to 'live' with for the next 100 days and beyond. Now here a little before settling in the numbers came flying into us from those on the site offering not only their support but their friendship. And then once we are settled we start to apply that same philosophy and look to help those who have moved in next to us.
Cause really, I do not believe that any one of use would move somewhere and build a wall to shut us off from the neighbors, so why join the site here and do the same.
So I say to all Welcome to the Neighborhood
thanks for listening
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Day 79 -
Ok see that Eric slightly beat me to one side of a thought comming out of the weekend, however as I went to sleep last night a Shining Ah-Ha moment hit me a little about this site and how it should be considered. I sum it up with the words of:
Welcome to the Neighborhood
For instance when we move in real life, we move into a house, townhome, apartment, we get settled in and then we go out and meet the neighbors (who initially are strangers) and we talk, become friends, and exchange the personal information like phone numbers for the times that we need them to watch our house while we are on vacation or the like. Then once all settled in we look to the vacancies and treat those who move in with the same friendship that we had been shown.
Well when I signed up here at KTC on my day 2, it was like moving. I was being surrounded by a bunch of strangers that I was to 'live' with for the next 100 days and beyond. Now here a little before settling in the numbers came flying into us from those on the site offering not only their support but their friendship. And then once we are settled we start to apply that same philosophy and look to help those who have moved in next to us.
Cause really, I do not believe that any one of use would move somewhere and build a wall to shut us off from the neighbors, so why join the site here and do the same.
So I say to all Welcome to the Neighborhood
thanks for listening
Completely agree with you Derek and well said.
'clap'
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Day 79 -
Ok see that Eric slightly beat me to one side of a thought comming out of the weekend, however as I went to sleep last night a Shining Ah-Ha moment hit me a little about this site and how it should be considered. I sum it up with the words of:
Welcome to the Neighborhood
For instance when we move in real life, we move into a house, townhome, apartment, we get settled in and then we go out and meet the neighbors (who initially are strangers) and we talk, become friends, and exchange the personal information like phone numbers for the times that we need them to watch our house while we are on vacation or the like. Then once all settled in we look to the vacancies and treat those who move in with the same friendship that we had been shown.
Well when I signed up here at KTC on my day 2, it was like moving. I was being surrounded by a bunch of strangers that I was to 'live' with for the next 100 days and beyond. Now here a little before settling in the numbers came flying into us from those on the site offering not only their support but their friendship. And then once we are settled we start to apply that same philosophy and look to help those who have moved in next to us.
Cause really, I do not believe that any one of use would move somewhere and build a wall to shut us off from the neighbors, so why join the site here and do the same.
So I say to all Welcome to the Neighborhood
thanks for listening
Completely agree with you Derek and well said.
'clap'
Agreed and a well linked analogy. In my neighborhood are badass quitters who will support each other till the end of time. We have an ordinance that allows for the extermination of nicotine in any form, by any means necessary. I am proud to offer listings in my neighborhood that include the following perks:
1. Freedom of speech
2. Freedom of religion
3. The right and encouragement to bear arms
4. Freedom from nicotine
These perks are strictly enforced by our civil man unit and legislated by the people, for the benefit of the people.
The best part, there is no excise or property tax in my neighborhood. There also is no limit to the number of occupants. The only prerequisite is that you post your word daily.
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Day 88 -
Feeling a re-invigorated today. Just spent 2-3 days feeling like a deflated balloon. Actually was praying for rain so I could stay home and not coach baseball (that is about as bad as I can think of).
So not sure if it was the quit, but when there was no motivation, no energy, and just about no care in the world......
On the other hand, am inching each day closer to that day 100 and the first milestone in a long line of good days to come. I realize this is just a waypoint in a longer journey, but I am so looking forward to it and then what the future may hold.
Well unless something major happens this should be my last post before the 'big' day. I have so enjoyed the journey so far and will be fighting each day as I move forward.....
thanks again for listening....
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Day 88 -
Feeling a re-invigorated today. Just spent 2-3 days feeling like a deflated balloon. Actually was praying for rain so I could stay home and not coach baseball (that is about as bad as I can think of).
So not sure if it was the quit, but when there was no motivation, no energy, and just about no care in the world......
On the other hand, am inching each day closer to that day 100 and the first milestone in a long line of good days to come. I realize this is just a waypoint in a longer journey, but I am so looking forward to it and then what the future may hold.
Well unless something major happens this should be my last post before the 'big' day. I have so enjoyed the journey so far and will be fighting each day as I move forward.....
thanks again for listening....
Sounds like a funk brother. You will feel better. It just takes time to get over these obstacles. They will become less and less frequent. Nic had ahold of us for a very long time. Each day you resist though, you become stronger. Every different thing you do without nic makes that activity that much easier to deal with next time. I am still finding things that I had not done for 10 years without a dip in. Each time it happens I am reminded of how I am in control of my own life now.
Keep on kickin' ass derek. I look forward to see you post that 1-0-0 and beyond!
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Day 88 -
Feeling a re-invigorated today. Just spent 2-3 days feeling like a deflated balloon. Actually was praying for rain so I could stay home and not coach baseball (that is about as bad as I can think of).
So not sure if it was the quit, but when there was no motivation, no energy, and just about no care in the world......
On the other hand, am inching each day closer to that day 100 and the first milestone in a long line of good days to come. I realize this is just a waypoint in a longer journey, but I am so looking forward to it and then what the future may hold.
Well unless something major happens this should be my last post before the 'big' day. I have so enjoyed the journey so far and will be fighting each day as I move forward.....
thanks again for listening....
Sounds like a funk brother. You will feel better. It just takes time to get over these obstacles. They will become less and less frequent. Nic had ahold of us for a very long time. Each day you resist though, you become stronger. Every different thing you do without nic makes that activity that much easier to deal with next time. I am still finding things that I had not done for 10 years without a dip in. Each time it happens I am reminded of how I am in control of my own life now.
Keep on kickin' ass derek. I look forward to see you post that 1-0-0 and beyond!
Just like we talked about in chat yesterday Derek, little funk prior to the first milestone we'll walk through together. I've never doubted your quit and resolve and am proud to have you as a quit brother.
QLAFM
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
Proud of you Derek and our group. It has been a journey in self re-discovery for those of us who have stuck to our word and commitment on a daily basis. I am anxious to see what the next days have in store for us.
QLAFM
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
Proud of you Derek and our group. It has been a journey in self re-discovery for those of us who have stuck to our word and commitment on a daily basis. I am anxious to see what the next days have in store for us.
QLAFM
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
Proud of you Derek and our group. It has been a journey in self re-discovery for those of us who have stuck to our word and commitment on a daily basis. I am anxious to see what the next days have in store for us.
QLAFM
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Very awesome quit and I am proud to be quit with you as well!
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
Proud of you Derek and our group. It has been a journey in self re-discovery for those of us who have stuck to our word and commitment on a daily basis. I am anxious to see what the next days have in store for us.
QLAFM
'clap'
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Very awesome quit and I am proud to be quit with you as well!
Proud to be quit with you and all of October!!! I trust you will stay around after the Century mark and pay it forward by helping the newbies. Wish I could be there to meet you in person at the meet this weekend....
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
Proud of you Derek and our group. It has been a journey in self re-discovery for those of us who have stuck to our word and commitment on a daily basis. I am anxious to see what the next days have in store for us.
QLAFM
'clap'
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Very awesome quit and I am proud to be quit with you as well!
Proud to be quit with you and all of October!!! I trust you will stay around after the Century mark and pay it forward by helping the newbies. Wish I could be there to meet you in person at the meet this weekend....
Great, great job!
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
Proud of you Derek and our group. It has been a journey in self re-discovery for those of us who have stuck to our word and commitment on a daily basis. I am anxious to see what the next days have in store for us.
QLAFM
'clap'
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Very awesome quit and I am proud to be quit with you as well!
Proud to be quit with you and all of October!!! I trust you will stay around after the Century mark and pay it forward by helping the newbies. Wish I could be there to meet you in person at the meet this weekend....
Great, great job!
Congrats on 99.
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
Proud of you Derek and our group. It has been a journey in self re-discovery for those of us who have stuck to our word and commitment on a daily basis. I am anxious to see what the next days have in store for us.
QLAFM
'clap'
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Very awesome quit and I am proud to be quit with you as well!
Proud to be quit with you and all of October!!! I trust you will stay around after the Century mark and pay it forward by helping the newbies. Wish I could be there to meet you in person at the meet this weekend....
Great, great job!
Congrats on 99.
Great job- right behind you!
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Day 99
wanted to do one last posting before the century mark. Been feeling real good in the last week or so. Not alot of cravings, if any that stand out in my mind though I know I still need to be on guard.
It's been enjoyable seeing the train start to load up with my brothers and sisters in Oct 12. So maybe that adds to the good feeling.
Its nice to be able to let the wife kiss me when ever she wants to now (instead of having to wait for me to take that crap out of my lip).
Its nice to be able to talk in front of my sons, and their scout troop without having that crap in my lip, so now upholding the word Clean in their oath.
Its nice to not be breaking the rules/law when at the local ball fields when I am coaching, and not have that crap in my lip.
And this is only a small portion of what I have regained in my life when I QUIT 99 days ago, and have done it one day at a time.
Hell if I can do it, anyone can, so I hope that whoever reads my intro will join me in the state of QUIT for today, and then lets talk tomorrow.
thanks for listening........
It's nice to see you here every day SD. You put the Rock in Rocktober - keep doing what you're doing. I for one am proud of you and honored to call you my brother. Stay quit.
Proud of you Derek and our group. It has been a journey in self re-discovery for those of us who have stuck to our word and commitment on a daily basis. I am anxious to see what the next days have in store for us.
QLAFM
'clap'
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Very awesome quit and I am proud to be quit with you as well!
Proud to be quit with you and all of October!!! I trust you will stay around after the Century mark and pay it forward by helping the newbies. Wish I could be there to meet you in person at the meet this weekend....
Great, great job!
Congrats on 99.
Great job- right behind you!
Nice work bud.
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Tomorrow you will be 100 days and a part of the HOF. I just hope you'll remember me when you're famous!
Great job Derek!
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Night of Day 99
ok this is sort of a fill in text as wanted to take this opportunity before the magic number to say thank you to everyone. You may never know how much you all mean to me right now.
Again as I have said, thanks for listening
Stay Strong, Stay Quit and see you all on roll in the morning.
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Seriously, anyone who can quit this shit for 100 days straight and looks forward to more...COLD TURKEY...is a bad mother fucker. Welcome to the HOF!!!
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Proud to be quit with you today derek and I look forward to seeing on roll for a long time to come.
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Proud of you man.
Keep it up.
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Congrats SD! Proud to be quit with you today brother
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Congrats SD! Proud to be quit with you today brother
Congrats Derek! The biggest Star Wars fan I know!!!
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Congrats SD! Proud to be quit with you today brother
Congrats Derek! The biggest Star Wars fan I know!!!
May the force of Quit be with us all.
'jedisith'
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SirDerek, I am quit with you TODAY.....we do it ONE day at a time Brother D. 'Finger' You mean the world to me also!!! Love you in the chat room...bringin' that good logic and common sense...
Have a super weekend Sir and enjoy your new life! :)
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I have had this nagging feeling that I should add more posts within my thread here. SoÂ…..
Day 138.
Here is my first post HOF. A lot has happened both personally in my own quit that will strengthen it to the core.
First of all, my emotional October is finally over. I had the emotion of hitting that 100 day milestone, I had the end of fall baseball season where I was coaching my sonÂ’s team, I had the training for work up in Boston where I got to meet 4 more of the awesome quitters from this site, and we managed the largest swim meet fundraiser in our teams history. All extremely top notch accomplishments and with a massive quit going on. When it was over I wept (and not afraid to say it), and you know what, it felt damn good to do so. Oh and I was also given the honor and pleasure to lead the HOF train through the month of November, a task that I am thoroughly enjoying.
Now for the additional items learned since I hit the hallÂ….. some makin me mad, others makin me just shake my head Â…and this by no means is directed at any single person but:
Gentlemen (and ladies), there are some that really need to get there head out of the spot that is 2-3 feet below their shoulders and to the rear. As I had been reminded on more than one occasion, this quitting is a situation of life and death, so I cannot believe what I have seen within the newer groups. I shake my head as the posting of roll gets more out of sorts with mess ups (not even bumps), and/or those that don’t even try. And the intros…..my stars….It may be my sports background, but I had always heard and have it applied that “IF YOU TALK THE TALK, YOU BETTER WALK THE WALK”, and I have seen quite a few talk it and then walk away and not back it up. This site is so big, there is so much help in what is written, not to mention the special people that are here that reach out their hand to help….and one turns away from this….unf*cking believable. I also have to say to those that want that overnight (or over-week) fix of all being healed with their mouth/tongue/lip/name part, PLEASE RELAX. We all had gone through a period of Years where we had something in our lip, where not only were we introducing poison to our bloodstream but we also had a physical irritant there for the most part 24 hours a day, this is NOT gonna fully heal in 2 weeks, please read the what to expect and the symptoms and if you need reassurance see you doctor, but I am sorry as I am not a doctor and cannot tell you more than I went through the same and though not 100% healed I feel 99% better (I still have the receeded gum).
I hope that this can make a little sense to those who are newer and can pass it on. As I will be there to reach my hand out to you, but you need to ask, you need to be strong, and you need to be QUIT.
Thanks for listening to just 'Plain' Derek
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I have had this nagging feeling that I should add more posts within my thread here. SoÂ…..
Day 138.
Here is my first post HOF. A lot has happened both personally in my own quit that will strengthen it to the core.
First of all, my emotional October is finally over. I had the emotion of hitting that 100 day milestone, I had the end of fall baseball season where I was coaching my sonÂ’s team, I had the training for work up in Boston where I got to meet 4 more of the awesome quitters from this site, and we managed the largest swim meet fundraiser in our teams history. All extremely top notch accomplishments and with a massive quit going on. When it was over I wept (and not afraid to say it), and you know what, it felt damn good to do so. Oh and I was also given the honor and pleasure to lead the HOF train through the month of November, a task that I am thoroughly enjoying.
Now for the additional items learned since I hit the hallÂ….. some makin me mad, others makin me just shake my head Â…and this by no means is directed at any single person but:
Gentlemen (and ladies), there are some that really need to get there head out of the spot that is 2-3 feet below their shoulders and to the rear. As I had been reminded on more than one occasion, this quitting is a situation of life and death, so I cannot believe what I have seen within the newer groups. I shake my head as the posting of roll gets more out of sorts with mess ups (not even bumps), and/or those that don’t even try. And the intros…..my stars….It may be my sports background, but I had always heard and have it applied that “IF YOU TALK THE TALK, YOU BETTER WALK THE WALK”, and I have seen quite a few talk it and then walk away and not back it up. This site is so big, there is so much help in what is written, not to mention the special people that are here that reach out their hand to help….and one turns away from this….unf*cking believable. I also have to say to those that want that overnight (or over-week) fix of all being healed with their mouth/tongue/lip/name part, PLEASE RELAX. We all had gone through a period of Years where we had something in our lip, where not only were we introducing poison to our bloodstream but we also had a physical irritant there for the most part 24 hours a day, this is NOT gonna fully heal in 2 weeks, please read the what to expect and the symptoms and if you need reassurance see you doctor, but I am sorry as I am not a doctor and cannot tell you more than I went through the same and though not 100% healed I feel 99% better (I still have the receeded gum).
I hope that this can make a little sense to those who are newer and can pass it on. As I will be there to reach my hand out to you, but you need to ask, you need to be strong, and you need to be QUIT.
Thanks for listening to just 'Plain' Derek
I love this guy!!!!!!
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Glad you took the time to post that. Gets my piss all hot and I am ready to storm the castle.
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I have had this nagging feeling that I should add more posts within my thread here. SoÂ…..
Day 138.
Here is my first post HOF. A lot has happened both personally in my own quit that will strengthen it to the core.
First of all, my emotional October is finally over. I had the emotion of hitting that 100 day milestone, I had the end of fall baseball season where I was coaching my sonÂ’s team, I had the training for work up in Boston where I got to meet 4 more of the awesome quitters from this site, and we managed the largest swim meet fundraiser in our teams history. All extremely top notch accomplishments and with a massive quit going on. When it was over I wept (and not afraid to say it), and you know what, it felt damn good to do so. Oh and I was also given the honor and pleasure to lead the HOF train through the month of November, a task that I am thoroughly enjoying.
Now for the additional items learned since I hit the hallÂ….. some makin me mad, others makin me just shake my head Â…and this by no means is directed at any single person but:
Gentlemen (and ladies), there are some that really need to get there head out of the spot that is 2-3 feet below their shoulders and to the rear. As I had been reminded on more than one occasion, this quitting is a situation of life and death, so I cannot believe what I have seen within the newer groups. I shake my head as the posting of roll gets more out of sorts with mess ups (not even bumps), and/or those that don’t even try. And the intros…..my stars….It may be my sports background, but I had always heard and have it applied that “IF YOU TALK THE TALK, YOU BETTER WALK THE WALK”, and I have seen quite a few talk it and then walk away and not back it up. This site is so big, there is so much help in what is written, not to mention the special people that are here that reach out their hand to help….and one turns away from this….unf*cking believable. I also have to say to those that want that overnight (or over-week) fix of all being healed with their mouth/tongue/lip/name part, PLEASE RELAX. We all had gone through a period of Years where we had something in our lip, where not only were we introducing poison to our bloodstream but we also had a physical irritant there for the most part 24 hours a day, this is NOT gonna fully heal in 2 weeks, please read the what to expect and the symptoms and if you need reassurance see you doctor, but I am sorry as I am not a doctor and cannot tell you more than I went through the same and though not 100% healed I feel 99% better (I still have the receeded gum).
I hope that this can make a little sense to those who are newer and can pass it on. As I will be there to reach my hand out to you, but you need to ask, you need to be strong, and you need to be QUIT.
Thanks for listening to just 'Plain' Derek
I love this guy!!!!!!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Glad you took the time to post that. Gets my piss all hot and I am ready to storm the castle.
That post is a big pile of cash money!!! Thanks for being you and thanks for speaking to those who need to unfuck their heads.
He's right, newbies. We were where you are...and we're here to help you get where we are. Post and chat with these bad-ass mother-fuckin quitters today!
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Well a special nail in the coffin today, as the 72 hours for the nicotene should now be out of my system has passed. Now its just the mind games.
And looking to a busy weekend as coaching son's 10U baseball team in tounament play with 2 games each on Sat Sun. Bring on the seeds....
Great job. Stay strong and stay quit. And remember the key to coaching all youth sports...second place is for the first loser. Wait...uh, that doesn't sound right now that I think about it...
Seriously...good luck to the kids, stay strong to you.
That was supposed to be after Sir Derek's most recent post. Can one of you MODERATORS work your MAGIC on my dumbass?
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I have had this nagging feeling that I should add more posts within my thread here. SoÂ…..
Day 138.
Here is my first post HOF. A lot has happened both personally in my own quit that will strengthen it to the core.
First of all, my emotional October is finally over. I had the emotion of hitting that 100 day milestone, I had the end of fall baseball season where I was coaching my sonÂ’s team, I had the training for work up in Boston where I got to meet 4 more of the awesome quitters from this site, and we managed the largest swim meet fundraiser in our teams history. All extremely top notch accomplishments and with a massive quit going on. When it was over I wept (and not afraid to say it), and you know what, it felt damn good to do so. Oh and I was also given the honor and pleasure to lead the HOF train through the month of November, a task that I am thoroughly enjoying.
Now for the additional items learned since I hit the hallÂ….. some makin me mad, others makin me just shake my head Â…and this by no means is directed at any single person but:
Gentlemen (and ladies), there are some that really need to get there head out of the spot that is 2-3 feet below their shoulders and to the rear. As I had been reminded on more than one occasion, this quitting is a situation of life and death, so I cannot believe what I have seen within the newer groups. I shake my head as the posting of roll gets more out of sorts with mess ups (not even bumps), and/or those that don’t even try. And the intros…..my stars….It may be my sports background, but I had always heard and have it applied that “IF YOU TALK THE TALK, YOU BETTER WALK THE WALK”, and I have seen quite a few talk it and then walk away and not back it up. This site is so big, there is so much help in what is written, not to mention the special people that are here that reach out their hand to help….and one turns away from this….unf*cking believable. I also have to say to those that want that overnight (or over-week) fix of all being healed with their mouth/tongue/lip/name part, PLEASE RELAX. We all had gone through a period of Years where we had something in our lip, where not only were we introducing poison to our bloodstream but we also had a physical irritant there for the most part 24 hours a day, this is NOT gonna fully heal in 2 weeks, please read the what to expect and the symptoms and if you need reassurance see you doctor, but I am sorry as I am not a doctor and cannot tell you more than I went through the same and though not 100% healed I feel 99% better (I still have the receeded gum).
I hope that this can make a little sense to those who are newer and can pass it on. As I will be there to reach my hand out to you, but you need to ask, you need to be strong, and you need to be QUIT.
Thanks for listening to just 'Plain' Derek
I love this guy!!!!!!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Glad you took the time to post that. Gets my piss all hot and I am ready to storm the castle.
That post is a big pile of cash money!!! Thanks for being you and thanks for speaking to those who need to unfuck their heads.
He's right, newbies. We were where you are...and we're here to help you get where we are. Post and chat with these bad-ass mother-fuckin quitters today!
Hell to the yeah! Thanks Derek, you have once again kick started my quit.....with you all day Bro...QLAFM
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I have had this nagging feeling that I should add more posts within my thread here. SoÂ…..
Day 138.
Here is my first post HOF. A lot has happened both personally in my own quit that will strengthen it to the core.
First of all, my emotional October is finally over. I had the emotion of hitting that 100 day milestone, I had the end of fall baseball season where I was coaching my sonÂ’s team, I had the training for work up in Boston where I got to meet 4 more of the awesome quitters from this site, and we managed the largest swim meet fundraiser in our teams history. All extremely top notch accomplishments and with a massive quit going on. When it was over I wept (and not afraid to say it), and you know what, it felt damn good to do so. Oh and I was also given the honor and pleasure to lead the HOF train through the month of November, a task that I am thoroughly enjoying.
Now for the additional items learned since I hit the hallÂ….. some makin me mad, others makin me just shake my head Â…and this by no means is directed at any single person but:
Gentlemen (and ladies), there are some that really need to get there head out of the spot that is 2-3 feet below their shoulders and to the rear. As I had been reminded on more than one occasion, this quitting is a situation of life and death, so I cannot believe what I have seen within the newer groups. I shake my head as the posting of roll gets more out of sorts with mess ups (not even bumps), and/or those that don’t even try. And the intros…..my stars….It may be my sports background, but I had always heard and have it applied that “IF YOU TALK THE TALK, YOU BETTER WALK THE WALK”, and I have seen quite a few talk it and then walk away and not back it up. This site is so big, there is so much help in what is written, not to mention the special people that are here that reach out their hand to help….and one turns away from this….unf*cking believable. I also have to say to those that want that overnight (or over-week) fix of all being healed with their mouth/tongue/lip/name part, PLEASE RELAX. We all had gone through a period of Years where we had something in our lip, where not only were we introducing poison to our bloodstream but we also had a physical irritant there for the most part 24 hours a day, this is NOT gonna fully heal in 2 weeks, please read the what to expect and the symptoms and if you need reassurance see you doctor, but I am sorry as I am not a doctor and cannot tell you more than I went through the same and though not 100% healed I feel 99% better (I still have the receeded gum).
I hope that this can make a little sense to those who are newer and can pass it on. As I will be there to reach my hand out to you, but you need to ask, you need to be strong, and you need to be QUIT.
Thanks for listening to just 'Plain' Derek
I love this guy!!!!!!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Glad you took the time to post that. Gets my piss all hot and I am ready to storm the castle.
That post is a big pile of cash money!!! Thanks for being you and thanks for speaking to those who need to unfuck their heads.
He's right, newbies. We were where you are...and we're here to help you get where we are. Post and chat with these bad-ass mother-fuckin quitters today!
Hell to the yeah! Thanks Derek, you have once again kick started my quit.....with you all day Bro...QLAFM
thanks bro!! proud to quit with you!
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I have had this nagging feeling that I should add more posts within my thread here. SoÂ…..
Day 138.
Here is my first post HOF. A lot has happened both personally in my own quit that will strengthen it to the core.
First of all, my emotional October is finally over. I had the emotion of hitting that 100 day milestone, I had the end of fall baseball season where I was coaching my sonÂ’s team, I had the training for work up in Boston where I got to meet 4 more of the awesome quitters from this site, and we managed the largest swim meet fundraiser in our teams history. All extremely top notch accomplishments and with a massive quit going on. When it was over I wept (and not afraid to say it), and you know what, it felt damn good to do so. Oh and I was also given the honor and pleasure to lead the HOF train through the month of November, a task that I am thoroughly enjoying.
Now for the additional items learned since I hit the hallÂ….. some makin me mad, others makin me just shake my head Â…and this by no means is directed at any single person but:
Gentlemen (and ladies), there are some that really need to get there head out of the spot that is 2-3 feet below their shoulders and to the rear. As I had been reminded on more than one occasion, this quitting is a situation of life and death, so I cannot believe what I have seen within the newer groups. I shake my head as the posting of roll gets more out of sorts with mess ups (not even bumps), and/or those that don’t even try. And the intros…..my stars….It may be my sports background, but I had always heard and have it applied that “IF YOU TALK THE TALK, YOU BETTER WALK THE WALK”, and I have seen quite a few talk it and then walk away and not back it up. This site is so big, there is so much help in what is written, not to mention the special people that are here that reach out their hand to help….and one turns away from this….unf*cking believable. I also have to say to those that want that overnight (or over-week) fix of all being healed with their mouth/tongue/lip/name part, PLEASE RELAX. We all had gone through a period of Years where we had something in our lip, where not only were we introducing poison to our bloodstream but we also had a physical irritant there for the most part 24 hours a day, this is NOT gonna fully heal in 2 weeks, please read the what to expect and the symptoms and if you need reassurance see you doctor, but I am sorry as I am not a doctor and cannot tell you more than I went through the same and though not 100% healed I feel 99% better (I still have the receeded gum).
I hope that this can make a little sense to those who are newer and can pass it on. As I will be there to reach my hand out to you, but you need to ask, you need to be strong, and you need to be QUIT.
Thanks for listening to just 'Plain' Derek
I love this guy!!!!!!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Glad you took the time to post that. Gets my piss all hot and I am ready to storm the castle.
That post is a big pile of cash money!!! Thanks for being you and thanks for speaking to those who need to unfuck their heads.
He's right, newbies. We were where you are...and we're here to help you get where we are. Post and chat with these bad-ass mother-fuckin quitters today!
Hell to the yeah! Thanks Derek, you have once again kick started my quit.....with you all day Bro...QLAFM
thanks bro!! proud to quit with you!
Good stuff Derek,strengthened my quit .
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I have had this nagging feeling that I should add more posts within my thread here. SoÂ…..
Day 138.
Here is my first post HOF. A lot has happened both personally in my own quit that will strengthen it to the core.
First of all, my emotional October is finally over. I had the emotion of hitting that 100 day milestone, I had the end of fall baseball season where I was coaching my sonÂ’s team, I had the training for work up in Boston where I got to meet 4 more of the awesome quitters from this site, and we managed the largest swim meet fundraiser in our teams history. All extremely top notch accomplishments and with a massive quit going on. When it was over I wept (and not afraid to say it), and you know what, it felt damn good to do so. Oh and I was also given the honor and pleasure to lead the HOF train through the month of November, a task that I am thoroughly enjoying.
Now for the additional items learned since I hit the hallÂ….. some makin me mad, others makin me just shake my head Â…and this by no means is directed at any single person but:
Gentlemen (and ladies), there are some that really need to get there head out of the spot that is 2-3 feet below their shoulders and to the rear. As I had been reminded on more than one occasion, this quitting is a situation of life and death, so I cannot believe what I have seen within the newer groups. I shake my head as the posting of roll gets more out of sorts with mess ups (not even bumps), and/or those that don’t even try. And the intros…..my stars….It may be my sports background, but I had always heard and have it applied that “IF YOU TALK THE TALK, YOU BETTER WALK THE WALK”, and I have seen quite a few talk it and then walk away and not back it up. This site is so big, there is so much help in what is written, not to mention the special people that are here that reach out their hand to help….and one turns away from this….unf*cking believable. I also have to say to those that want that overnight (or over-week) fix of all being healed with their mouth/tongue/lip/name part, PLEASE RELAX. We all had gone through a period of Years where we had something in our lip, where not only were we introducing poison to our bloodstream but we also had a physical irritant there for the most part 24 hours a day, this is NOT gonna fully heal in 2 weeks, please read the what to expect and the symptoms and if you need reassurance see you doctor, but I am sorry as I am not a doctor and cannot tell you more than I went through the same and though not 100% healed I feel 99% better (I still have the receeded gum).
I hope that this can make a little sense to those who are newer and can pass it on. As I will be there to reach my hand out to you, but you need to ask, you need to be strong, and you need to be QUIT.
Thanks for listening to just 'Plain' Derek
I love this guy!!!!!!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Glad you took the time to post that. Gets my piss all hot and I am ready to storm the castle.
That post is a big pile of cash money!!! Thanks for being you and thanks for speaking to those who need to unfuck their heads.
He's right, newbies. We were where you are...and we're here to help you get where we are. Post and chat with these bad-ass mother-fuckin quitters today!
Hell to the yeah! Thanks Derek, you have once again kick started my quit.....with you all day Bro...QLAFM
thanks bro!! proud to quit with you!
Good stuff Derek,strengthened my quit .
Right you be Sir Derek. The Quit strong with you, it is.
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Day 157 -
Healthwatch - madman style
Well had my 3 month checkup with the Doctor today
Blood Pressure: 134/80....this is the best it has been since I was 18 years old. On the crap it ran 160/100 and I was on 3 medications, now with that nice number and a better number of 0 medications. It feels so good.
Cholesterol: For the first time since I started having this check done 10 years ago it is below 200. Now yes I am on Lipitor (a switch to it made 3 months ago), so that has probably helped since this does run in the family (with mom and dad both having it very high), but I think also paying a little more attention and taking control of my life has contributed.
Weight: Well this needs help. It has held steady in the 285 range now for 3 months. So here is where the focus lies over the next days. I did get a late start in acting on this as my pre-quit weight was 260, and said it was off by day 200 but I am willing to extend that especially if those other numbers remain lower.
So it may be a leap, but from my standpoint, being quit = more healthy, and therefore longer life (or at least the risk of losing it lessens).
So wife, kids, I will be here a bit longer for you.
onward to a thinner 200.
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Day 157 -
Healthwatch - madman style
Well had my 3 month checkup with the Doctor today
Blood Pressure: 134/80....this is the best it has been since I was 18 years old. On the crap it ran 160/100 and I was on 3 medications, now with that nice number and a better number of 0 medications. It feels so good.
Cholesterol: For the first time since I started having this check done 10 years ago it is below 200. Now yes I am on Lipitor (a switch to it made 3 months ago), so that has probably helped since this does run in the family (with mom and dad both having it very high), but I think also paying a little more attention and taking control of my life has contributed.
Weight: Well this needs help. It has held steady in the 285 range now for 3 months. So here is where the focus lies over the next days. I did get a late start in acting on this as my pre-quit weight was 260, and said it was off by day 200 but I am willing to extend that especially if those other numbers remain lower.
So it may be a leap, but from my standpoint, being quit = more healthy, and therefore longer life (or at least the risk of losing it lessens).
So wife, kids, I will be here a bit longer for you.
onward to a thinner 200.
Proud of you man! 'clap'
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Day 157 -
Healthwatch - madman style
Well had my 3 month checkup with the Doctor today
Blood Pressure: 134/80....this is the best it has been since I was 18 years old. On the crap it ran 160/100 and I was on 3 medications, now with that nice number and a better number of 0 medications. It feels so good.
Cholesterol: For the first time since I started having this check done 10 years ago it is below 200. Now yes I am on Lipitor (a switch to it made 3 months ago), so that has probably helped since this does run in the family (with mom and dad both having it very high), but I think also paying a little more attention and taking control of my life has contributed.
Weight: Well this needs help. It has held steady in the 285 range now for 3 months. So here is where the focus lies over the next days. I did get a late start in acting on this as my pre-quit weight was 260, and said it was off by day 200 but I am willing to extend that especially if those other numbers remain lower.
So it may be a leap, but from my standpoint, being quit = more healthy, and therefore longer life (or at least the risk of losing it lessens).
So wife, kids, I will be here a bit longer for you.
onward to a thinner 200.
Proud of you man! 'clap'
Congratulations SirD!
And a couple more reasons for us noobs to add to the reasons for quiting. All these reasons help keep me focused on my quit. Thanks!
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Day 157 -
Healthwatch - madman style
Well had my 3 month checkup with the Doctor today
Blood Pressure: 134/80....this is the best it has been since I was 18 years old. On the crap it ran 160/100 and I was on 3 medications, now with that nice number and a better number of 0 medications. It feels so good.
Cholesterol: For the first time since I started having this check done 10 years ago it is below 200. Now yes I am on Lipitor (a switch to it made 3 months ago), so that has probably helped since this does run in the family (with mom and dad both having it very high), but I think also paying a little more attention and taking control of my life has contributed.
Weight: Well this needs help. It has held steady in the 285 range now for 3 months. So here is where the focus lies over the next days. I did get a late start in acting on this as my pre-quit weight was 260, and said it was off by day 200 but I am willing to extend that especially if those other numbers remain lower.
So it may be a leap, but from my standpoint, being quit = more healthy, and therefore longer life (or at least the risk of losing it lessens).
So wife, kids, I will be here a bit longer for you.
onward to a thinner 200.
Proud of you man! 'clap'
Congratulations SirD!
And a couple more reasons for us noobs to add to the reasons for quiting. All these reasons help keep me focused on my quit. Thanks!
Great job!
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Day 157 -
Healthwatch - madman style
Well had my 3 month checkup with the Doctor today
Blood Pressure: 134/80....this is the best it has been since I was 18 years old. On the crap it ran 160/100 and I was on 3 medications, now with that nice number and a better number of 0 medications. It feels so good.
Cholesterol: For the first time since I started having this check done 10 years ago it is below 200. Now yes I am on Lipitor (a switch to it made 3 months ago), so that has probably helped since this does run in the family (with mom and dad both having it very high), but I think also paying a little more attention and taking control of my life has contributed.
Weight: Well this needs help. It has held steady in the 285 range now for 3 months. So here is where the focus lies over the next days. I did get a late start in acting on this as my pre-quit weight was 260, and said it was off by day 200 but I am willing to extend that especially if those other numbers remain lower.
So it may be a leap, but from my standpoint, being quit = more healthy, and therefore longer life (or at least the risk of losing it lessens).
So wife, kids, I will be here a bit longer for you.
onward to a thinner 200.
Proud of you man! 'clap'
Congratulations SirD!
And a couple more reasons for us noobs to add to the reasons for quiting. All these reasons help keep me focused on my quit. Thanks!
Great job!
Nice!
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Day 157 -
Healthwatch - madman style
Well had my 3 month checkup with the Doctor today
Blood Pressure: 134/80....this is the best it has been since I was 18 years old. On the crap it ran 160/100 and I was on 3 medications, now with that nice number and a better number of 0 medications. It feels so good.
Cholesterol: For the first time since I started having this check done 10 years ago it is below 200. Now yes I am on Lipitor (a switch to it made 3 months ago), so that has probably helped since this does run in the family (with mom and dad both having it very high), but I think also paying a little more attention and taking control of my life has contributed.
Weight: Well this needs help. It has held steady in the 285 range now for 3 months. So here is where the focus lies over the next days. I did get a late start in acting on this as my pre-quit weight was 260, and said it was off by day 200 but I am willing to extend that especially if those other numbers remain lower.
So it may be a leap, but from my standpoint, being quit = more healthy, and therefore longer life (or at least the risk of losing it lessens).
So wife, kids, I will be here a bit longer for you.
onward to a thinner 200.
Proud of you man! 'clap'
Congratulations SirD!
And a couple more reasons for us noobs to add to the reasons for quiting. All these reasons help keep me focused on my quit. Thanks!
Great job!
Nice!
Damned nice. LOOT swole up to 280 post quit too. Down to about 230 now.
You can do it bro. Aplly that same badass attitude to it and you will win.
Thanks for sharing and congrats.
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Day 157 -
Healthwatch - madman style
Well had my 3 month checkup with the Doctor today
Blood Pressure: 134/80....this is the best it has been since I was 18 years old. On the crap it ran 160/100 and I was on 3 medications, now with that nice number and a better number of 0 medications. It feels so good.
Cholesterol: For the first time since I started having this check done 10 years ago it is below 200. Now yes I am on Lipitor (a switch to it made 3 months ago), so that has probably helped since this does run in the family (with mom and dad both having it very high), but I think also paying a little more attention and taking control of my life has contributed.
Weight: Well this needs help. It has held steady in the 285 range now for 3 months. So here is where the focus lies over the next days. I did get a late start in acting on this as my pre-quit weight was 260, and said it was off by day 200 but I am willing to extend that especially if those other numbers remain lower.
So it may be a leap, but from my standpoint, being quit = more healthy, and therefore longer life (or at least the risk of losing it lessens).
So wife, kids, I will be here a bit longer for you.
onward to a thinner 200.
Proud of you man! 'clap'
Congratulations SirD!
And a couple more reasons for us noobs to add to the reasons for quiting. All these reasons help keep me focused on my quit. Thanks!
Great job!
Nice!
Damned nice. LOOT swole up to 280 post quit too. Down to about 230 now.
You can do it bro. Aplly that same badass attitude to it and you will win.
Thanks for sharing and congrats.
hey SD, That is good stuff. More reasons to kick the nic bitch back into her hole every a.m.
I am quit with YOU Sir!! 'bang head'
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Day 157 -
Healthwatch - madman style
Well had my 3 month checkup with the Doctor today
Blood Pressure: 134/80....this is the best it has been since I was 18 years old. On the crap it ran 160/100 and I was on 3 medications, now with that nice number and a better number of 0 medications. It feels so good.
Cholesterol: For the first time since I started having this check done 10 years ago it is below 200. Now yes I am on Lipitor (a switch to it made 3 months ago), so that has probably helped since this does run in the family (with mom and dad both having it very high), but I think also paying a little more attention and taking control of my life has contributed.
Weight: Well this needs help. It has held steady in the 285 range now for 3 months. So here is where the focus lies over the next days. I did get a late start in acting on this as my pre-quit weight was 260, and said it was off by day 200 but I am willing to extend that especially if those other numbers remain lower.
So it may be a leap, but from my standpoint, being quit = more healthy, and therefore longer life (or at least the risk of losing it lessens).
So wife, kids, I will be here a bit longer for you.
onward to a thinner 200.
Proud of you man! 'clap'
Congratulations SirD!
And a couple more reasons for us noobs to add to the reasons for quiting. All these reasons help keep me focused on my quit. Thanks!
Great job!
Nice!
Damned nice. LOOT swole up to 280 post quit too. Down to about 230 now.
You can do it bro. Aplly that same badass attitude to it and you will win.
Thanks for sharing and congrats.
hey SD, That is good stuff. More reasons to kick the nic bitch back into her hole every a.m.
I am quit with YOU Sir!! 'bang head'
Nice work Sir!
You might laugh at these numbers but I got up to 207 after quitting. Just the last few months I have been dedicating myself to eating a little better and got down to 188. Lifting weights every day now so we'll see how that goes.
Keep it up. The results will get even better.
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Day 162
And truely an unplanned posting so soon after the other one, but I needed to write for myself. And maybe I can learn from this (and some wonder why this is stressed to the young quitters)
That is 2 from Oct'12. 2 madmen who were perfect posters just ... poof. Rubicon day 65, and now Kstamp day 142.
Two very different circumstances as to the underlying reason for the cave....but I do recognize the common theme between the 2....ALCOHOL...
From Rubicon's posting on Sep 17th "....friends and family got together, we drank until the wee hours. All I know is I woke up with a dip in my lip, and a can of cope in my back pocket"
From Kstampfly's posting today "... I was drinking heavily that night and when I woke up the next morning a can of Copenhagen lay sitting on my kitchen table plain as day"
And both of these reminded me of others that I have seen during my 162 days:
From GrizKill posting on Sep 14th "...buddies of mine to go offshore fishin for 4 days. No computers, no phones, no tv, no nothing, just fishing and drinkin and having a good time with old friends. The only thing i didnt prepare myself for was that 8 of them smoked or dipped or both.."
Now I do have to amit over the last month or so I have partaken in the devil's nectar quite often...which is probably why I am not seeing the results of my exercising like I should, but now with seeing this above, I think that additional light bulb has just gone off.
I will say that I won't swear off alcohol at this point, but as my Oct 12 madmen/madwomen as my witness, I am definately under my own constraint and a major slow down.
there are probably a thousand more stories like the ones above, and I need to promise myself that my name is never associated with one of them.
thanks for reading
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Day 162
And truely an unplanned posting so soon after the other one, but I needed to write for myself. And maybe I can learn from this (and some wonder why this is stressed to the young quitters)
That is 2 from Oct'12. 2 madmen who were perfect posters just ... poof. Rubicon day 65, and now Kstamp day 142.
Two very different circumstances as to the underlying reason for the cave....but I do recognize the common theme between the 2....ALCOHOL...
From Rubicon's posting on Sep 17th "....friends and family got together, we drank until the wee hours. All I know is I woke up with a dip in my lip, and a can of cope in my back pocket"
From Kstampfly's posting today "... I was drinking heavily that night and when I woke up the next morning a can of Copenhagen lay sitting on my kitchen table plain as day"
And both of these reminded me of others that I have seen during my 162 days:
From GrizKill posting on Sep 14th "...buddies of mine to go offshore fishin for 4 days. No computers, no phones, no tv, no nothing, just fishing and drinkin and having a good time with old friends. The only thing i didnt prepare myself for was that 8 of them smoked or dipped or both.."
Now I do have to amit over the last month or so I have partaken in the devil's nectar quite often...which is probably why I am not seeing the results of my exercising like I should, but now with seeing this above, I think that additional light bulb has just gone off.
I will say that I won't swear off alcohol at this point, but as my Oct 12 madmen/madwomen as my witness, I am definately under my own constraint and a major slow down.
there are probably a thousand more stories like the ones above, and I need to promise myself that my name is never associated with one of them.
thanks for reading
Good post.
Here is my take. It took me maybe 180 to 200 days to close the door. Meaning, I knew I was done with this shit. If you have not closed the door one is at risk. Booze is not the only trigger. The door closes at different times for folks.
Know your self. Never mess up a quit.
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BEEP – this is a message from the Oct ’12 Madmen/Madwomen Foundation
WARNING : Alcohol can be detrimental to your quit.
It has been proven that in too many situations, we see the following story reported:
insert name was with my buddies and we started to drink to (circle one) celebrate/mourn/or other reason. Well we must have drunk too much as I do not remember much from the rest of the night. When I woke I found a tin name location and could not believe itÂ…Â…Â…
Heed this warning now as whether it is Day 1 or Day 1,000 this situation can happen to anyone. No One is Immune.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled QUIT.
wanted this to remind myself and hope others will read and take heed
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On Day 166:
I gotta say, I think I wear quit very well.....At least my wife thinks so
Case in point....just yesterday in the kitchen, after a cute little kiss, she said, "I like being able to give you a kiss anytime I want."
It may sound sappy, but what a true benefit for getting the crap out of my life and giving me the tools, (brothers and sisters included....HA), to take my life back
thank you again KTC
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On Day 166:
I gotta say, I think I wear quit very well.....At least my wife thinks so
Case in point....just yesterday in the kitchen, after a cute little kiss, she said, "I like being able to give you a kiss anytime I want."
It may sound sappy, but what a true benefit for getting the crap out of my life and giving me the tools, (brothers and sisters included....HA), to take my life back
thank you again KTC
Amen SD,
It's sappy, but hey it's what we've been missing when we had that cat shit in our mouths.
I'll take sappy any day over dipping!
Good to be QUIT with you Brother! 'bang head'
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On Day 166:
I gotta say, I think I wear quit very well.....At least my wife thinks so
Case in point....just yesterday in the kitchen, after a cute little kiss, she said, "I like being able to give you a kiss anytime I want."
It may sound sappy, but what a true benefit for getting the crap out of my life and giving me the tools, (brothers and sisters included....HA), to take my life back
thank you again KTC
Amen SD,
It's sappy, but hey it's what we've been missing when we had that cat shit in our mouths.
I'll take sappy any day over dipping!
Good to be QUIT with you Brother! 'bang head'
You know what I like? Going with my wife to the grocery store. For years when she asked if I wanted to go, I'd always say "no." I think you know why...
Good stuff Derek. QLAFM.
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On Day 166:
I gotta say, I think I wear quit very well.....At least my wife thinks so
Case in point....just yesterday in the kitchen, after a cute little kiss, she said, "I like being able to give you a kiss anytime I want."
It may sound sappy, but what a true benefit for getting the crap out of my life and giving me the tools, (brothers and sisters included....HA), to take my life back
thank you again KTC
Amen SD,
It's sappy, but hey it's what we've been missing when we had that cat shit in our mouths.
I'll take sappy any day over dipping!
Good to be QUIT with you Brother! 'bang head'
You know what I like? Going with my wife to the grocery store. For years when she asked if I wanted to go, I'd always say "no." I think you know why...
Good stuff Derek. QLAFM.
speaking of the grocery store, if any of you have shared a store with me and reached back for an item on the shelf and got a handful of used dip, sorry! how messed up!! I hear you sirD, it's good to be quit.
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Day 169 -
had to note this as the math geek in me liked alot. This sort of fits into a KTC Math:
via Scowick: 1 Problem + Nicotene = 2 Problems
Loved it, and with thinking of more got one of those Math word problems:
Question: If a person wakes at 6 am traveling at 1 m/sec from his bed, how long should it be until he posts his word, and then subequently how long does said person stay quit?
Answer: Within 1 hour of waking to post and that leaves a remainder of 23 hours, including sleep time, for that person to remain quit.
Never Again For Any Reason
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Day 169 -
had to note this as the math geek in me liked alot. This sort of fits into a KTC Math:
via Scowick: 1 Problem + Nicotene = 2 Problems
Loved it, and with thinking of more got one of those Math word problems:
Question: If a person wakes at 6 am traveling at 1 m/sec from his bed, how long should it be until he posts his word, and then subequently how long does said person stay quit?
Answer: Within 1 hour of waking to post and that leaves a remainder of 23 hours, including sleep time, for that person to remain quit.
Never Again For Any Reason
To stick with you math theme here is a proof:
1. To chew you need time and money therefore:
chew = time x money
2. Time is money, therefore:
Time = Money
3. Therefore:
Chew = Money x Money = Money^2 (Money squared)
4. Money is the root of all problems
Money = \I Problems (\I = Square root, this forum doesnÂ’t recognize the square root symbol)
5. Therefore:
Chew = (\IProblems)^2
We all know that the square root and the squared cancel each other out, therefore:
6. Chew = Problems
It's tough to type in on the screen, I encourage you to right it down and see for yourself. The proof is in the math!!!!
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Day 178 – Tis the season….
Ok, need to pen this down for myself where hopefully some others can help learn too, though now past the day of Christmas.
This was the first Christmas that I have been nicotine free in my adult life, 24 years ago, I was 17 when I had been clean last (damn it still shocks and disgusts me when I say that). I am not sure whether the stress of the season, or this fact of not knowing how I would react, really had me deep in depression the last week to 10 days. I also used quite a bit more of the fake stuff than I had been in the past 2 months, so must have had some hidden/subconscious cravings there. I do have to say though I had no feelings of running to the store and dropping a turd into my lip.
I do say that during this time I did spend a little more time on the site here, I drank the water, exercised moreÂ…..used all the information that I had learned early on in my quit to help keep me quit.
Then there were just the kind words from the Oct12 Madmen and Madwomen whether by text, in the thread or in live chat that helped during these days. I wanted to repeat it here as you all are a special group, and there will be no way in the hot spot that I will let you down and give in to the nic bitch.
I can now scream to the world, I AM QUIT TODAY. And my plan is to wake in the morning and make that promise again.
Merry Christmas KTC, you beautiful site. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0Kseq8Aa4)
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Day 183 - Can say officially 6 months on New Year's Eve
I truely never thought I would get this far. Been through alot: the suck, the doldrums, the blah's and humbugs, the funks. Have fought through more this year with this than I have done in my previous 23 years of dipping. I have finally grown up to experience these things as a confident adult.
This site has taught me so much.
---I never would have believe that there were so many of us, as well as so many of us who are just about identical to each other for all that we have done.
---I would never have thought of reaching out to strangers who I had only seen typing on a screen, and now I cannot even think of not hearing your voice on the other end of the phone or seeing your text message as we both get through this together.
---I now know what to expect and to do when any type of craving may hit me, wich have been really faint lately and further apart.
---I have learned to keep an even keel and not let my emotions rule the day, except for the week before Christmas where I was a mess.
--- At the toughest I have learned to take it day by day and not to look into the future other than to waking up the next day and looking forward to giving my word to stay quit.
In all, just the fact that this site has helped me to get and stay quit, I cannot thank it enough.
KTC I wish you a Prosperous New Year. 'party2'
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Congrats on the 6 months friend. That is awesome. Be proud. Enjoy your day.
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Congrats on the 6 months friend. That is awesome. Be proud. Enjoy your day.
Nice work, SD.
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Congrats on the 6 months friend. That is awesome. Be proud. Enjoy your day.
Nice work, SD.
Continued success D~ protect it every damn day!!
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Congrat's Derek!! Awesome Job! You are an inspiration to us all!
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Congrats on 6 months Derek. Keep it going.
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Congrats SD, and well said. Thanks for sharing that.
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Day 2 – 0 – 0
Well I really never thought I would get this far, but guess what, I have.'oh yeah'
The support from the site, the veterans, the now newer quitters and from my Oct12 madmen and madwomen have made it such that it has given me the strength to get here.
A score of 200 to nothing. That is where this is standing. Yes that score is rising quicker and quicker. Yes the feelings are getting so much better and better as any feeling from the nic bitch is getting further and further apart. Yes I still hear her, but she is becoming so quiet it is almost like background noise. And Yes this is going to be one case where I do not care but I am going to run this score up as high as it will go and not worry about what the other side thinks.
Lately been seeing those groups hit 100 and like ours have some people drift away from the site. 'finger point' I can say right now that is not me. I need to provide my word each morning to you all. That gives me the strength needed as I honor my word. I really do not know what I would do if I ever had to break my word especially to those who I have come to know and consider as a part of my family.
And I understand that I am still a work in progress. Yes 200 days may seem long, but compared to 23 years of poisoning myself, I will continue to work at it. So or you new guy, give it time, things will and do get better, but masterpieces take time to build (in my case re-build). And in time I see my life so much better than what it had been.
Thanks for listening to just ‘plain’ Derek and give me a yell if you need any help as I am not going anywhere anytime soon. :ph43r:
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Day 2 – 0 – 0
Well I really never thought I would get this far, but guess what, I have.'oh yeah'
The support from the site, the veterans, the now newer quitters and from my Oct12 madmen and madwomen have made it such that it has given me the strength to get here.
A score of 200 to nothing. That is where this is standing. Yes that score is rising quicker and quicker. Yes the feelings are getting so much better and better as any feeling from the nic bitch is getting further and further apart. Yes I still hear her, but she is becoming so quiet it is almost like background noise. And Yes this is going to be one case where I do not care but I am going to run this score up as high as it will go and not worry about what the other side thinks.
Lately been seeing those groups hit 100 and like ours have some people drift away from the site. 'finger point' I can say right now that is not me. I need to provide my word each morning to you all. That gives me the strength needed as I honor my word. I really do not know what I would do if I ever had to break my word especially to those who I have come to know and consider as a part of my family.
And I understand that I am still a work in progress. Yes 200 days may seem long, but compared to 23 years of poisoning myself, I will continue to work at it. So or you new guy, give it time, things will and do get better, but masterpieces take time to build (in my case re-build). And in time I see my life so much better than what it had been.
Thanks for listening to just ‘plain’ Derek and give me a yell if you need any help as I am not going anywhere anytime soon. :ph43r:
'boob' 'boob' 'boob' Hell Yeah!!!!
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Amazing, can't wait to always be 197 days behind you. Congrats
I keep thinking about how Ive poisoned myself for a decade and then I look at so many on here who Quit after multiple decades.
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Day 2 – 0 – 0
Well I really never thought I would get this far, but guess what, I have.'oh yeah'
The support from the site, the veterans, the now newer quitters and from my Oct12 madmen and madwomen have made it such that it has given me the strength to get here.
A score of 200 to nothing. That is where this is standing. Yes that score is rising quicker and quicker. Yes the feelings are getting so much better and better as any feeling from the nic bitch is getting further and further apart. Yes I still hear her, but she is becoming so quiet it is almost like background noise. And Yes this is going to be one case where I do not care but I am going to run this score up as high as it will go and not worry about what the other side thinks.
Lately been seeing those groups hit 100 and like ours have some people drift away from the site. 'finger point' I can say right now that is not me. I need to provide my word each morning to you all. That gives me the strength needed as I honor my word. I really do not know what I would do if I ever had to break my word especially to those who I have come to know and consider as a part of my family.
And I understand that I am still a work in progress. Yes 200 days may seem long, but compared to 23 years of poisoning myself, I will continue to work at it. So or you new guy, give it time, things will and do get better, but masterpieces take time to build (in my case re-build). And in time I see my life so much better than what it had been.
Thanks for listening to just ‘plain’ Derek and give me a yell if you need any help as I am not going anywhere anytime soon. :ph43r:
'boob' 'boob' 'boob' Hell Yeah!!!!
Double Hell yea!! 'Cheers'
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Day 2 – 0 – 0
Well I really never thought I would get this far, but guess what, I have.'oh yeah'
The support from the site, the veterans, the now newer quitters and from my Oct12 madmen and madwomen have made it such that it has given me the strength to get here.
A score of 200 to nothing. That is where this is standing. Yes that score is rising quicker and quicker. Yes the feelings are getting so much better and better as any feeling from the nic bitch is getting further and further apart. Yes I still hear her, but she is becoming so quiet it is almost like background noise. And Yes this is going to be one case where I do not care but I am going to run this score up as high as it will go and not worry about what the other side thinks.
Lately been seeing those groups hit 100 and like ours have some people drift away from the site. 'finger point' I can say right now that is not me. I need to provide my word each morning to you all. That gives me the strength needed as I honor my word. I really do not know what I would do if I ever had to break my word especially to those who I have come to know and consider as a part of my family.
And I understand that I am still a work in progress. Yes 200 days may seem long, but compared to 23 years of poisoning myself, I will continue to work at it. So or you new guy, give it time, things will and do get better, but masterpieces take time to build (in my case re-build). And in time I see my life so much better than what it had been.
Thanks for listening to just ‘plain’ Derek and give me a yell if you need any help as I am not going anywhere anytime soon. :ph43r:
'boob' 'boob' 'boob' Hell Yeah!!!!
Double Hell yea!! 'Cheers'
Fuhreakin Suhweet!!!
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Day 2 – 0 – 0
Well I really never thought I would get this far, but guess what, I have.'oh yeah'
The support from the site, the veterans, the now newer quitters and from my Oct12 madmen and madwomen have made it such that it has given me the strength to get here.
A score of 200 to nothing. That is where this is standing. Yes that score is rising quicker and quicker. Yes the feelings are getting so much better and better as any feeling from the nic bitch is getting further and further apart. Yes I still hear her, but she is becoming so quiet it is almost like background noise. And Yes this is going to be one case where I do not care but I am going to run this score up as high as it will go and not worry about what the other side thinks.
Lately been seeing those groups hit 100 and like ours have some people drift away from the site. 'finger point' I can say right now that is not me. I need to provide my word each morning to you all. That gives me the strength needed as I honor my word. I really do not know what I would do if I ever had to break my word especially to those who I have come to know and consider as a part of my family.
And I understand that I am still a work in progress. Yes 200 days may seem long, but compared to 23 years of poisoning myself, I will continue to work at it. So or you new guy, give it time, things will and do get better, but masterpieces take time to build (in my case re-build). And in time I see my life so much better than what it had been.
Thanks for listening to just ‘plain’ Derek and give me a yell if you need any help as I am not going anywhere anytime soon. :ph43r:
'boob' 'boob' 'boob' Hell Yeah!!!!
Double Hell yea!! 'Cheers'
Fuhreakin Suhweet!!!
Derek,
Not a day goes by that I think I can do it without the support of our group (Oct12). People like you, Jag, Sambo, and all the dedicated pack members help keep an addict like me quit every day. Thanks and I am proud to be walking this road with you.
QLAFM
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Day 2 – 0 – 0
Well I really never thought I would get this far, but guess what, I have.'oh yeah'
The support from the site, the veterans, the now newer quitters and from my Oct12 madmen and madwomen have made it such that it has given me the strength to get here.
A score of 200 to nothing. That is where this is standing. Yes that score is rising quicker and quicker. Yes the feelings are getting so much better and better as any feeling from the nic bitch is getting further and further apart. Yes I still hear her, but she is becoming so quiet it is almost like background noise. And Yes this is going to be one case where I do not care but I am going to run this score up as high as it will go and not worry about what the other side thinks.
Lately been seeing those groups hit 100 and like ours have some people drift away from the site. 'finger point' I can say right now that is not me. I need to provide my word each morning to you all. That gives me the strength needed as I honor my word. I really do not know what I would do if I ever had to break my word especially to those who I have come to know and consider as a part of my family.
And I understand that I am still a work in progress. Yes 200 days may seem long, but compared to 23 years of poisoning myself, I will continue to work at it. So or you new guy, give it time, things will and do get better, but masterpieces take time to build (in my case re-build). And in time I see my life so much better than what it had been.
Thanks for listening to just ‘plain’ Derek and give me a yell if you need any help as I am not going anywhere anytime soon. :ph43r:
'boob' 'boob' 'boob' Hell Yeah!!!!
Double Hell yea!! 'Cheers'
Fuhreakin Suhweet!!!
Derek,
Not a day goes by that I think I can do it without the support of our group (Oct12). People like you, Jag, Sambo, and all the dedicated pack members help keep an addict like me quit every day. Thanks and I am proud to be walking this road with you.
QLAFM
Love my quit bro....Sir Derek!!!! Stay ghey and congrats!
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DAY 239
Starting to remember some semblance
Well I am not only getting closer to that quarter comma, but am also getting closer to turning another year older (Saturday March 2nd). But this time, it will be the first birthday in 23 years since I turned 18 years old, that I will do so without nicotine in my system. I do say that it really seems surreal as I continue to thank this site and the friends and family that I have met here for this success.
And I do say that things are much better, and as everyone asks the one question as to “when will I return to normal’, well after close to 240 days (officially 239) I have to say that I am starting to see it in myself for the first time after so long.
Let me explain.
If we all remember that long ago, when we had to apply for college, the application had that one essay we had to write as to why we would be good for the college and/or who we were. Well I was never one who could speak of myself, and still have trouble doing so, so for this I had an uncanny ability where I stepped ‘outside’ of myself and wrote it in 3rd person format. And when I turned it in to my guidance counselor and English teachers to review, they could not believe I had written it from that point of view. This style also showed as I remember before sporting events and other times back than where I could step back and see myself as I was, sort of an onlooker.
Well for the past 20 years, I cannot recall a single time where I had been able to continue with this ability. It wasnÂ’t until about 2-3 weeks ago, and maybe it was a crave or something, and it almost scared me, but I felt myself step back and this time I was seeing what I can just say was a vision of a memory where I was sitting on the couch at home, late at night with the kids and wife asleep and me spitting into a can. I remember standing there just shaking my head, almost pitying myself.
When I shook myself out of this vision, I grabbed a piece of wintergreen gum, and felt a smile come to my face. I am beating a necessary evil that was a part of my life. I have taken control and know that this is still early and that I have a long way to go, but for the first time I really feel that I am getting back to who I am deep inside.
I wanted to pen this down as a reminder to myself that 240 days does not equal the 23 years, so new guys if you have read this, I urge you, give it time and use the tools that this site offers as it is not only a life saver but a life returner, and although we are all still and will be still addicts, we will at some point get back to who we were before.
Thanks for listening and for this week this is probably only the first as inspiration and reflection comes from turning another year older.
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Nice Post Sir!!! Watch out for the 250ish funky period.
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Nice Post Sir!!! Watch out for the 250ish funky period.
Been there brother, it is good to see the progress we've made. You continue to inspire and motivate our group. Thank you for the you quitter you are.
QLAFM
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BEEP – this is a message from the Oct ’12 Madmen/Madwomen Foundation
WARNING : Alcohol can be detrimental to your quit.
It has been proven that in too many situations, we see the following story reported:
insert name was with my buddies and we started to drink to (circle one) celebrate/mourn/or other reason. Well we must have drunk too much as I do not remember much from the rest of the night. When I woke I found a tin name location and could not believe itÂ…Â…Â…
Heed this warning now as whether it is Day 1 or Day 1,000 this situation can happen to anyone. No One is Immune.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled QUIT.
wanted this to remind myself and hope others will read and take heed
Well Ladies and Gentleman, what we need to realize is that we are in a war when we quit. What may not be understood is the sides of this war and what we can use to win it.
Our Enemy - we all recognize that our enemy is the Lady Nicotene. She is sneaky, has a seductive voice and seems to linger about. What we also recognize is that she is a part of a team. Taking a braod definition a team is a number of participants associated together in an activity. Well the activity is that of destroying quits and keeping one addicted. So when we look we need to look for her mates and the one big one who would be considered the MVP would be that of Lord Alcohol. He is one who lowers defenses, and can make us forget what the hell we are doing. So we need to watch for them both.
BUT
As we have multiple enemies, we also have Allies that we can turn to, and that is our Brotherhood of KTC. This is a strong key as we fight as yes, the definition for Brotherhood states an association for a particular purpose, but I tend to follow the definition of the quality or state of being brothers which to me has a much deeper bond than that of our enemy. And heck it should be simple as we look to see that we definately outnumber our enemy.
So to keep from sounding like a broken record, see the announcement above, but this time learn from this message, as I know from the many of times that I have seen this happen, my plan is in place to keep this from happening to me.
I will be a part of winning this war. I am your brother. Are you mine?
thanks for listening to this message, now on with our regularly scheduled quit.
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BEEP – this is a message from the Oct ’12 Madmen/Madwomen Foundation
WARNING : Alcohol can be detrimental to your quit.
It has been proven that in too many situations, we see the following story reported:
insert name was with my buddies and we started to drink to (circle one) celebrate/mourn/or other reason. Well we must have drunk too much as I do not remember much from the rest of the night. When I woke I found a tin name location and could not believe itÂ…Â…Â…
Heed this warning now as whether it is Day 1 or Day 1,000 this situation can happen to anyone. No One is Immune.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled QUIT.
wanted this to remind myself and hope others will read and take heed
bump.....
and placehold for another rant about alcohol comming soon.
Super GREAT reminder SD!!! So true for us to nurture and strengthen our Quit, not matter what it requires!
Proud to be quit with YOU Today! 'bang head'
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DAY 240
BEEP – this is a message from the Oct ’12 Madmen/Madwomen Foundation
WARNING : Alcohol can be detrimental to your quit.
It has been proven that in too many situations, we see the following story reported:
insert name was with my buddies and we started to drink to (circle one) celebrate/mourn/or other reason. Well we must have drunk too much as I do not remember much from the rest of the night. When I woke I found a tin name location and could not believe itÂ…Â…Â…
Heed this warning now as whether it is Day 1 or Day 1,000 this situation can happen to anyone. No One is Immune.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled QUIT.
wanted this to remind myself and hope others will read and take heed
Well Ladies and Gentleman, what we need to realize is that we are in a war when we quit. What may not be understood is the sides of this war and what we can use to win it.
Our Enemy - we all recognize that our enemy is the Lady Nicotene. She is sneaky, has a seductive voice and seems to linger about. What we also recognize is that she is a part of a team. Taking a braod definition a team is a number of participants associated together in an activity. Well the activity is that of destroying quits and keeping one addicted. So when we look we need to look for her mates and the one big one who would be considered the MVP would be that of Lord Alcohol. He is one who lowers defenses, and can make us forget what the hell we are doing. So we need to watch for them both.
BUT
As we have multiple enemies, we also have Allies that we can turn to, and that is our Brotherhood of KTC. This is a strong key as we fight as yes, the definition for Brotherhood states an association for a particular purpose, but I tend to follow the definition of the quality or state of being brothers which to me has a much deeper bond than that of our enemy. And heck it should be simple as we look to see that we definately outnumber our enemy.
So to keep from sounding like a broken record, see the announcement above, but this time learn from this message, as I know from the many of times that I have seen this happen, my plan is in place to keep this from happening to me.
I will be a part of winning this war. I am your brother. Are you mine?
thanks for listening to this message, now on with our regularly scheduled quit.
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DAY 240 BEEP – this is a message from the Oct ’12 Madmen/Madwomen Foundation
WARNING : Alcohol can be detrimental to your quit.
It has been proven that in too many situations, we see the following story reported:
insert name was with my buddies and we started to drink to (circle one) celebrate/mourn/or other reason. Well we must have drunk too much as I do not remember much from the rest of the night. When I woke I found a tin name location and could not believe itÂ…Â…Â…
Heed this warning now as whether it is Day 1 or Day 1,000 this situation can happen to anyone. No One is Immune.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled QUIT.
wanted this to remind myself and hope others will read and take heed
Well Ladies and Gentleman, what we need to realize is that we are in a war when we quit. What may not be understood is the sides of this war and what we can use to win it.
Our Enemy - we all recognize that our enemy is the Lady Nicotene. She is sneaky, has a seductive voice and seems to linger about. What we also recognize is that she is a part of a team. Taking a braod definition a team is a number of participants associated together in an activity. Well the activity is that of destroying quits and keeping one addicted. So when we look we need to look for her mates and the one big one who would be considered the MVP would be that of Lord Alcohol. He is one who lowers defenses, and can make us forget what the hell we are doing. So we need to watch for them both.
BUT
As we have multiple enemies, we also have Allies that we can turn to, and that is our Brotherhood of KTC. This is a strong key as we fight as yes, the definition for Brotherhood states an association for a particular purpose, but I tend to follow the definition of the quality or state of being brothers which to me has a much deeper bond than that of our enemy. And heck it should be simple as we look to see that we definately outnumber our enemy.
So to keep from sounding like a broken record, see the announcement above, but this time learn from this message, as I know from the many of times that I have seen this happen, my plan is in place to keep this from happening to me.
I will be a part of winning this war. I am your brother. Are you mine?
thanks for listening to this message, now on with our regularly scheduled quit.
Good stuff Derek, I am quit with you and hence your brother. It was nice meeting in chat today.
Sorry about your Sept friend. He was foolish, and now has to pay the price of returning to day one. I just hope he makes it back. That would be my greatest fear of caving. Took me 20+ years to really get this "quit" going, how much longer could it take next time. Next time may be too late, or worse yet.......it may never come at all.
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DAY 240 BEEP – this is a message from the Oct ’12 Madmen/Madwomen Foundation
WARNING : Alcohol can be detrimental to your quit.
It has been proven that in too many situations, we see the following story reported:
insert name was with my buddies and we started to drink to (circle one) celebrate/mourn/or other reason. Well we must have drunk too much as I do not remember much from the rest of the night. When I woke I found a tin name location and could not believe itÂ…Â…Â…
Heed this warning now as whether it is Day 1 or Day 1,000 this situation can happen to anyone. No One is Immune.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled QUIT.
wanted this to remind myself and hope others will read and take heed
Well Ladies and Gentleman, what we need to realize is that we are in a war when we quit. What may not be understood is the sides of this war and what we can use to win it.
Our Enemy - we all recognize that our enemy is the Lady Nicotene. She is sneaky, has a seductive voice and seems to linger about. What we also recognize is that she is a part of a team. Taking a braod definition a team is a number of participants associated together in an activity. Well the activity is that of destroying quits and keeping one addicted. So when we look we need to look for her mates and the one big one who would be considered the MVP would be that of Lord Alcohol. He is one who lowers defenses, and can make us forget what the hell we are doing. So we need to watch for them both.
BUT
As we have multiple enemies, we also have Allies that we can turn to, and that is our Brotherhood of KTC. This is a strong key as we fight as yes, the definition for Brotherhood states an association for a particular purpose, but I tend to follow the definition of the quality or state of being brothers which to me has a much deeper bond than that of our enemy. And heck it should be simple as we look to see that we definately outnumber our enemy.
So to keep from sounding like a broken record, see the announcement above, but this time learn from this message, as I know from the many of times that I have seen this happen, my plan is in place to keep this from happening to me.
I will be a part of winning this war. I am your brother. Are you mine?
thanks for listening to this message, now on with our regularly scheduled quit.
Good stuff Derek, I am quit with you and hence your brother. It was nice meeting in chat today.
Sorry about your Sept friend. He was foolish, and now has to pay the price of returning to day one. I just hope he makes it back. That would be my greatest fear of caving. Took me 20+ years to really get this "quit" going, how much longer could it take next time. Next time may be too late, or worse yet.......it may never come at all.
Good shit right there. Keep fighting.
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Day 257 just more self-realizations and likenesses
Ok well just coming out of another one of those gawd awful down periods. I held up my shield and got a ton of support from my family here at KTC, thank you.
I have seen it many times throughout these 257 days but I think it just clicked. As addicts of course we can never go back, well ok, who would want to. But this quit is a survival. And in this last week I have really seen how similar to the Wilderness Survival Merit Badge for the Boy Scouts that I was approved as a counselor. In particular the first step/priority for when finding yourself in a survival situation. And is summed up in the acronym S.T.O.P.
S: Stop. Yes just stop. Applying here, If you feel a craveÂ….just stop. If you get angry and want to explodeÂ….just stop. If you have any type of reflex action you want to doÂ….just stop. How many times as an addict did we, for no reason, just reach into our pocket for that tin, or did we walk to our hiding spot without thinking. Well just stop before I/we do anything.
T: Thinking.. On to the next step and now we really need to think and use our brain. What do we really want. What are the options. Is there anything that I have done that has removed those options (ie did I post roll today). What have I done in this situation in the past. Yes go ahead and think for a minute.
Stopping and Thinking now have just broken that reflex that we used to have.
O: Observe:. This one is a little bit different, but look around and observe. Take a minute to see what you are seeing without the poison running through our body. See how beautiful life can be with out that crap in our system. Look who we are affecting as we go through this, our family, our group here on KTC. So observe and take it all in.
P: Plan .– This should be familiar, If the previous steps don’t get us back on that quit path, then what plan do you have. I got plenty of numbers that I try to use. There is that contract to look at. There are the family pictures. So what is you plan.
Ok So not exactly a wilderness, but as we quit I was yelled at me early that this is a life or death situation. Well I can be slow at times, but that does translate to a Survival situation, and what a better way to relate certain ideas than to go to something I took an interest in with my sons.
Stay Clean.
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Thanks for sharing that metaphor. That is definitely another tool I can add to my invaluable toolbox. That acronym could actually be used in alot of different situations. The key letter for me is "S", stop reacting to a situation without ingesting what really is or just happened. Congrats on 257 and proud to be quit with you today.
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Day 259 -
Night falls on March 17th and again after a weekend with the scouts I am reminded of another similarity between them and the site here, and that is that lesson of Brotherhood (or in scout speak that can be considered as the buddy system).
It is through brotherhood that we make this journey in quit. I will be damned if I do not make a voice to voice contact with those brothers and sisters that have become a part of my family before I even place a pen in my had to sign that contract with the devil again (cave contract).
Each day I make my promise to stay quit and that I will continue. I just wanted to say that there is an additional promise that I make and that is that this is now personal and you will hear from me if it gets that far.
I am Quit, my armor is strong, and let me allow it to help you as well.
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Day 259 -
Night falls on March 17th and again after a weekend with the scouts I am reminded of another similarity between them and the site here, and that is that lesson of Brotherhood (or in scout speak that can be considered as the buddy system).
It is through brotherhood that we make this journey in quit. I will be damned if I do not make a voice to voice contact with those brothers and sisters that have become a part of my family before I even place a pen in my had to sign that contract with the devil again (cave contract).
Each day I make my promise to stay quit and that I will continue. I just wanted to say that there is an additional promise that I make and that is that this is now personal and you will hear from me if it gets that far.
I am Quit, my armor is strong, and let me allow it to help you as well.
That's bad ass!
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Day 259 -
Night falls on March 17th and again after a weekend with the scouts I am reminded of another similarity between them and the site here, and that is that lesson of Brotherhood (or in scout speak that can be considered as the buddy system).
It is through brotherhood that we make this journey in quit. I will be damned if I do not make a voice to voice contact with those brothers and sisters that have become a part of my family before I even place a pen in my had to sign that contract with the devil again (cave contract).
Each day I make my promise to stay quit and that I will continue. I just wanted to say that there is an additional promise that I make and that is that this is now personal and you will hear from me if it gets that far.
I am Quit, my armor is strong, and let me allow it to help you as well.
That's bad ass!
Rock Star quit. Thanks for sharing SD.
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Day 259 -
Night falls on March 17th and again after a weekend with the scouts I am reminded of another similarity between them and the site here, and that is that lesson of Brotherhood (or in scout speak that can be considered as the buddy system).
It is through brotherhood that we make this journey in quit. I will be damned if I do not make a voice to voice contact with those brothers and sisters that have become a part of my family before I even place a pen in my had to sign that contract with the devil again (cave contract).
Each day I make my promise to stay quit and that I will continue. I just wanted to say that there is an additional promise that I make and that is that this is now personal and you will hear from me if it gets that far.
I am Quit, my armor is strong, and let me allow it to help you as well.
That's bad ass!
Rock Star quit. Thanks for sharing SD.
your armor is strong.. and you're surrounded by your army of quit brothers. we'll always be here for you as you are for us.. quit with you bro!
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Day 259 -
Night falls on March 17th and again after a weekend with the scouts I am reminded of another similarity between them and the site here, and that is that lesson of Brotherhood (or in scout speak that can be considered as the buddy system).
It is through brotherhood that we make this journey in quit. I will be damned if I do not make a voice to voice contact with those brothers and sisters that have become a part of my family before I even place a pen in my had to sign that contract with the devil again (cave contract).
Each day I make my promise to stay quit and that I will continue. I just wanted to say that there is an additional promise that I make and that is that this is now personal and you will hear from me if it gets that far.
I am Quit, my armor is strong, and let me allow it to help you as well.
That's bad ass!
Rock Star quit. Thanks for sharing SD.
your armor is strong.. and you're surrounded by your army of quit brothers. we'll always be here for you as you are for us.. quit with you bro!
That's my brother right there, QUIT is the shit! You know good and well Jag and I would not let that happen. You WILL be quit, no 2 ways about it.
QLAFM
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Day 292 -
the lessons just keep comming.
I have to say, even the hint of not being able to get to roll the next day brought about 5 texts letting me know that they are there for me. Talk about Brotherhood and Family. So new guys, get to know one another, make that connection, as it is all the better when you stand shoulder to shoulder in this fight.
And that brings upon the why for the next day. Well it is our annual Applacian Trail hike with the Boy Scouts. My first time honoring the Clean that is stated in the Scout Law. So another point in the fight as I used this to help me internalize this quit and see it through.
And for myself, yes I experience the downs since the last posting, the funks, but like in the initial quit, I kept posting daily, My armor stayed strong, I kept checking in on the site, looking after my brothers, and seeing the guys hit the HOF, and then the newbies. And by following this and the tools here, it passes.
And you know what, it all has been so worth it as I feel great today, I am no longer a slave. And can say that taking it One Day At A Time, I will Never Again For Any Reason.
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Day 292 -
the lessons just keep comming.
I have to say, even the hint of not being able to get to roll the next day brought about 5 texts letting me know that they are there for me. Talk about Brotherhood and Family. So new guys, get to know one another, make that connection, as it is all the better when you stand shoulder to shoulder in this fight.
And that brings upon the why for the next day. Well it is our annual Applacian Trail hike with the Boy Scouts. My first time honoring the Clean that is stated in the Scout Law. So another point in the fight as I used this to help me internalize this quit and see it through.
And for myself, yes I experience the downs since the last posting, the funks, but like in the initial quit, I kept posting daily, My armor stayed strong, I kept checking in on the site, looking after my brothers, and seeing the guys hit the HOF, and then the newbies. And by following this and the tools here, it passes.
And you know what, it all has been so worth it as I feel great today, I am no longer a slave. And can say that taking it One Day At A Time, I will Never Again For Any Reason.
Good stuff SirD, I am quit with you today.
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Day 292 -
the lessons just keep comming.
I have to say, even the hint of not being able to get to roll the next day brought about 5 texts letting me know that they are there for me. Talk about Brotherhood and Family. So new guys, get to know one another, make that connection, as it is all the better when you stand shoulder to shoulder in this fight.
And that brings upon the why for the next day. Well it is our annual Applacian Trail hike with the Boy Scouts. My first time honoring the Clean that is stated in the Scout Law. So another point in the fight as I used this to help me internalize this quit and see it through.
And for myself, yes I experience the downs since the last posting, the funks, but like in the initial quit, I kept posting daily, My armor stayed strong, I kept checking in on the site, looking after my brothers, and seeing the guys hit the HOF, and then the newbies. And by following this and the tools here, it passes.
And you know what, it all has been so worth it as I feel great today, I am no longer a slave. And can say that taking it One Day At A Time, I will Never Again For Any Reason.
Good stuff SirD, I am quit with you today.
Thanks SD. Now I have my Quit hard-on for the weekend. Love ya brother.
Quit on! 'bang head'
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Day 292 -
the lessons just keep comming.
I have to say, even the hint of not being able to get to roll the next day brought about 5 texts letting me know that they are there for me. Talk about Brotherhood and Family. So new guys, get to know one another, make that connection, as it is all the better when you stand shoulder to shoulder in this fight.
And that brings upon the why for the next day. Well it is our annual Applacian Trail hike with the Boy Scouts. My first time honoring the Clean that is stated in the Scout Law. So another point in the fight as I used this to help me internalize this quit and see it through.
And for myself, yes I experience the downs since the last posting, the funks, but like in the initial quit, I kept posting daily, My armor stayed strong, I kept checking in on the site, looking after my brothers, and seeing the guys hit the HOF, and then the newbies. And by following this and the tools here, it passes.
And you know what, it all has been so worth it as I feel great today, I am no longer a slave. And can say that taking it One Day At A Time, I will Never Again For Any Reason.
Good stuff SirD, I am quit with you today.
Thanks SD. Now I have my Quit hard-on for the weekend. Love ya brother.
Quit on! 'bang head'
Just like we talked about yesterday Derek, this is how it is supposed to be. Taking the time, living without a crutch. It sure feels good. Get me that text in the AM and I'll put you roll.
You know this man!
QLAFM
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Day 292 -
the lessons just keep comming.
I have to say, even the hint of not being able to get to roll the next day brought about 5 texts letting me know that they are there for me. Talk about Brotherhood and Family. So new guys, get to know one another, make that connection, as it is all the better when you stand shoulder to shoulder in this fight.
And that brings upon the why for the next day. Well it is our annual Applacian Trail hike with the Boy Scouts. My first time honoring the Clean that is stated in the Scout Law. So another point in the fight as I used this to help me internalize this quit and see it through.
And for myself, yes I experience the downs since the last posting, the funks, but like in the initial quit, I kept posting daily, My armor stayed strong, I kept checking in on the site, looking after my brothers, and seeing the guys hit the HOF, and then the newbies. And by following this and the tools here, it passes.
And you know what, it all has been so worth it as I feel great today, I am no longer a slave. And can say that taking it One Day At A Time, I will Never Again For Any Reason.
Good stuff SirD, I am quit with you today.
Thanks SD. Now I have my Quit hard-on for the weekend. Love ya brother.
Quit on! 'bang head'
Just like we talked about yesterday Derek, this is how it is supposed to be. Taking the time, living without a crutch. It sure feels good. Get me that text in the AM and I'll put you roll.
You know this man!
QLAFM
No text from me today Derek, I hope you know that if you throw me a text I'll put you on roll, this weekend, next, whenever you need it bro. Have fun on the trail! Hope you got the stove you wanted!
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Day 292 -
the lessons just keep comming.
I have to say, even the hint of not being able to get to roll the next day brought about 5 texts letting me know that they are there for me. Talk about Brotherhood and Family. So new guys, get to know one another, make that connection, as it is all the better when you stand shoulder to shoulder in this fight.
And that brings upon the why for the next day. Well it is our annual Applacian Trail hike with the Boy Scouts. My first time honoring the Clean that is stated in the Scout Law. So another point in the fight as I used this to help me internalize this quit and see it through.
And for myself, yes I experience the downs since the last posting, the funks, but like in the initial quit, I kept posting daily, My armor stayed strong, I kept checking in on the site, looking after my brothers, and seeing the guys hit the HOF, and then the newbies. And by following this and the tools here, it passes.
And you know what, it all has been so worth it as I feel great today, I am no longer a slave. And can say that taking it One Day At A Time, I will Never Again For Any Reason.
Good stuff SirD, I am quit with you today.
Thanks SD. Now I have my Quit hard-on for the weekend. Love ya brother.
Quit on! 'bang head'
Just like we talked about yesterday Derek, this is how it is supposed to be. Taking the time, living without a crutch. It sure feels good. Get me that text in the AM and I'll put you roll.
You know this man!
QLAFM
No text from me today Derek, I hope you know that if you throw me a text I'll put you on roll, this weekend, next, whenever you need it bro. Have fun on the trail! Hope you got the stove you wanted!
Same as mich brother, you can text or call me anytime as well and i'll throw your name on roll. I will quit with you any day and everyday.
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Day 298
ok damn it that nic bitch does like to hang around doesn't she...well finally that damn dip dream got a little hold of me last night, so vivid like alot of people say, and this 2 days prior to the 3rd floor,
well in the dream was out with the wife at what seemed to be a beef and beer, with friends, some dancing. As I was sitting there taking a break I realized I had a big fat lipper in, with a can sitting on the table. I did not recognize the can but I immediately ran outside and around the corner where I proceeded to spit it out and puke....christ what did I do. Well, in the dream, the wife chased me down and showed me the tin, with big letters ALL Herbal.....No Nicotene
well I remember seeing this then waking....was in a sweat....looked around my bedroom....went to the mirror in the bathroom, washed my face, checked my mouth...smiled as glad it was a dream.
but shit, so clear and what a bad feeling....
Am so glad I kicked this crap 298 days ago, just wish would have kicked it 23 years ago..
I am +1 quit today with my armor and shield....giving them extra polish and attention today
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Day 298
ok damn it that nic bitch does like to hang around doesn't she...well finally that damn dip dream got a little hold of me last night, so vivid like alot of people say, and this 2 days prior to the 3rd floor,
well in the dream was out with the wife at what seemed to be a beef and beer, with friends, some dancing. As I was sitting there taking a break I realized I had a big fat lipper in, with a can sitting on the table. I did not recognize the can but I immediately ran outside and around the corner where I proceeded to spit it out and puke....christ what did I do. Well, in the dream, the wife chased me down and showed me the tin, with big letters ALL Herbal.....No Nicotene
well I remember seeing this then waking....was in a sweat....looked around my bedroom....went to the mirror in the bathroom, washed my face, checked my mouth...smiled as glad it was a dream.
but shit, so clear and what a bad feeling....
Am so glad I kicked this crap 298 days ago, just wish would have kicked it 23 years ago..
I am +1 quit today with my armor and shield....giving them extra polish and attention today
Thank God it was just a dream Derek... A nightmare really! I'm proud to be quit and share a quit group with you. October 12 has such an awesome group of support. Probably cause there's 2 bad ass female quitters in our group...Divine and I add nothing but CLASS to our happy little quit family. You guys are awesome! I :wub: my quit brothers and sisters.
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Day 298
ok damn it that nic bitch does like to hang around doesn't she...well finally that damn dip dream got a little hold of me last night, so vivid like alot of people say, and this 2 days prior to the 3rd floor,
well in the dream was out with the wife at what seemed to be a beef and beer, with friends, some dancing. As I was sitting there taking a break I realized I had a big fat lipper in, with a can sitting on the table. I did not recognize the can but I immediately ran outside and around the corner where I proceeded to spit it out and puke....christ what did I do. Well, in the dream, the wife chased me down and showed me the tin, with big letters ALL Herbal.....No Nicotene
well I remember seeing this then waking....was in a sweat....looked around my bedroom....went to the mirror in the bathroom, washed my face, checked my mouth...smiled as glad it was a dream.
but shit, so clear and what a bad feeling....
Am so glad I kicked this crap 298 days ago, just wish would have kicked it 23 years ago..
I am +1 quit today with my armor and shield....giving them extra polish and attention today
Thank God it was just a dream Derek... A nightmare really! I'm proud to be quit and share a quit group with you. October 12 has such an awesome group of support. Probably cause there's 2 bad ass female quitters in our group...Divine and I add nothing but CLASS to our happy little quit family. You guys are awesome! I :wub: my quit brothers and sisters.
....those dreams always suck!
The nic bitch is always there just waiting for any moment of weakness, be proud you fought her off again just remember she is persistent and unfortunately will be back but for a badass quitter like you all you will do is keep winning and tell her to fuck off!
Quit on brother, the third floor is right around the corner!
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Day 298
ok damn it that nic bitch does like to hang around doesn't she...well finally that damn dip dream got a little hold of me last night, so vivid like alot of people say, and this 2 days prior to the 3rd floor,
well in the dream was out with the wife at what seemed to be a beef and beer, with friends, some dancing. As I was sitting there taking a break I realized I had a big fat lipper in, with a can sitting on the table. I did not recognize the can but I immediately ran outside and around the corner where I proceeded to spit it out and puke....christ what did I do. Well, in the dream, the wife chased me down and showed me the tin, with big letters ALL Herbal.....No Nicotene
well I remember seeing this then waking....was in a sweat....looked around my bedroom....went to the mirror in the bathroom, washed my face, checked my mouth...smiled as glad it was a dream.
but shit, so clear and what a bad feeling....
Am so glad I kicked this crap 298 days ago, just wish would have kicked it 23 years ago..
I am +1 quit today with my armor and shield....giving them extra polish and attention today
Thank God it was just a dream Derek... A nightmare really! I'm proud to be quit and share a quit group with you. October 12 has such an awesome group of support. Probably cause there's 2 bad ass female quitters in our group...Divine and I add nothing but CLASS to our happy little quit family. You guys are awesome! I :wub: my quit brothers and sisters.
....those dreams always suck!
The nic bitch is always there just waiting for any moment of weakness, be proud you fought her off again just remember she is persistent and unfortunately will be back but for a badass quitter like you all you will do is keep winning and tell her to fuck off!
Quit on brother, the third floor is right around the corner!
Those dreams are so messed up, I had my worse dream just after 300. You are one bad ass quitter and I'm proud to stand quit with you today.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
On my honor!
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
On my honor!
Derek you've been a leader and a stand up guy since the day you stepped on KTC. Proud to quit with you bro.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
On my honor!
Derek you've been a leader and a stand up guy since the day you stepped on KTC. Proud to quit with you bro.
Good shit. Given this is a virtual community our WORD is all we have. A point I think needs to driven into the head of some of the noobs. Maybe this needs to be thrown into July or August. Good stuff, bro.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
On my honor!
Derek you've been a leader and a stand up guy since the day you stepped on KTC. Proud to quit with you bro.
Good shit. Given this is a virtual community our WORD is all we have. A point I think needs to driven into the head of some of the noobs. Maybe this needs to be thrown into July or August. Good stuff, bro.
Diesel not known for compassion with noobs. Hahahahaha.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
On my honor!
Derek you've been a leader and a stand up guy since the day you stepped on KTC. Proud to quit with you bro.
Good shit. Given this is a virtual community our WORD is all we have. A point I think needs to driven into the head of some of the noobs. Maybe this needs to be thrown into July or August. Good stuff, bro.
Diesel not known for compassion with noobs. Hahahahaha.
I like noobs, until they try and reinvent the wheel. Then yes, I get a little psyco. I will work on that. _
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
On my honor!
Derek you've been a leader and a stand up guy since the day you stepped on KTC. Proud to quit with you bro.
Good shit. Given this is a virtual community our WORD is all we have. A point I think needs to driven into the head of some of the noobs. Maybe this needs to be thrown into July or August. Good stuff, bro.
Diesel not known for compassion with noobs. Hahahahaha.
I like noobs, until they try and reinvent the wheel. Then yes, I get a little psyco. I will work on that. _
why fix something that's not broken - we don't tolerate special butterflies
Your word should be the cornerstone of your character. Don't waste our time if it isn't.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
On my honor!
Derek you've been a leader and a stand up guy since the day you stepped on KTC. Proud to quit with you bro.
Good shit. Given this is a virtual community our WORD is all we have. A point I think needs to driven into the head of some of the noobs. Maybe this needs to be thrown into July or August. Good stuff, bro.
Diesel not known for compassion with noobs. Hahahahaha.
I like noobs, until they try and reinvent the wheel. Then yes, I get a little psyco. I will work on that. _
why fix something that's not broken - we don't tolerate special butterflies
Your word should be the cornerstone of your character. Don't waste our time if it isn't.
Powerfull stuff, well said SD. your word ... a bond that should not be broken.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
Perfectly spoken SD!!!
I love you man!
I'll quit with you everyday that ends with "y"!!! 'bang head'
Well thought out...well written...well recieved and appreciated. This is something that should be set aside as required reading material for new quitters. Thanks for all you do Derek.
Well said SirD. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for the share Derek, I might quit with you in the morning after a post like that!
On my honor!
Derek you've been a leader and a stand up guy since the day you stepped on KTC. Proud to quit with you bro.
Good shit. Given this is a virtual community our WORD is all we have. A point I think needs to driven into the head of some of the noobs. Maybe this needs to be thrown into July or August. Good stuff, bro.
Diesel not known for compassion with noobs. Hahahahaha.
I like noobs, until they try and reinvent the wheel. Then yes, I get a little psyco. I will work on that. _
why fix something that's not broken - we don't tolerate special butterflies
Your word should be the cornerstone of your character. Don't waste our time if it isn't.
Powerfull stuff, well said SD. your word ... a bond that should not be broken.
As always Derek, well spoken. You are expressing the feelings we all strive to reach. Gentlemen, if your quit does not inspire self improvement, I suggest you re-examine your motives for quitting. Derek, like many others, gets it. It is so much more than quit. It is truly priceless. With you here today and every one the Good Lord allows us from this point brother!
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Day 344 -
ok got loose one more time and ran over to the House of Glass in Apr12 to find that box that CS always uses.
feels good to stand on this OK EVERYONE LISTEN UP
I remember someone telling me early on to put my QUIT above and beyond everything else in my life. To make it my number one priority. To let others know that it is my number one priority at least for the first month or two.
Well I have done just that. And because I have, I am standing today where I am staring down the 1 year milestone, and doing it one day at a time.
Now along the way, have I seen things that have distracted me, yes. Did I let it throw me off my quit, no. And Why? Because I put my quit first.
Now did I also get involved in some of the things, yes. But did I let it affect my quit in the long run, no. Again my quit is first above all else.
Now along the way have I seen people involved in those same distractions, yes. And did I see some leave KTC, yes. Why? Because They did not put their quit first.
And have I also seen some fall back into the clutches of the nic lady, yes. Why? Because like before, their quit was not first.
See a pattern there everyone? If you solidify your quit and put it above everything else, there is nothing that can happen (even the stuff from this past week), that should disrupt you from your number one priority.
damn that felt good Thanks coach for the use of your box.
I better get back as I see them searching for me as there is a straight jacket waiting for me in Oct12. Quit On.
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Day 344 -
ok got loose one more time and ran over to the House of Glass in Apr12 to find that box that CS always uses.
feels good to stand on this OK EVERYONE LISTEN UP
I remember someone telling me early on to put my QUIT above and beyond everything else in my life. To make it my number one priority. To let others know that it is my number one priority at least for the first month or two.
Well I have done just that. And because I have, I am standing today where I am staring down the 1 year milestone, and doing it one day at a time.
Now along the way, have I seen things that have distracted me, yes. Did I let it throw me off my quit, no. And Why? Because I put my quit first.
Now did I also get involved in some of the things, yes. But did I let it affect my quit in the long run, no. Again my quit is first above all else.
Now along the way have I seen people involved in those same distractions, yes. And did I see some leave KTC, yes. Why? Because They did not put their quit first.
And have I also seen some fall back into the clutches of the nic lady, yes. Why? Because like before, their quit was not first.
See a pattern there everyone? If you solidify your quit and put it above everything else, there is nothing that can happen (even the stuff from this past week), that should disrupt you from your number one priority.
damn that felt good Thanks coach for the use of your box.
I better get back as I see them searching for me as there is a straight jacket waiting for me in Oct12. Quit On.
Very well said SD.
That is powerful. 'bang head'
ODAAT and NAFAR
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Day 355
Taking another look through my thread, seeing the history over the past almost year, and realize that when it came time at that point last year to quit, that it was a Decision that I was to make, and then to honor it each and every day.
Decision – “a determination arrived at after a consideration.” .For me that definitely is the perfect definition from the Websters Dictionary.
Throughout our lives we make many decisions from small and inconsequential (What will I have for lunch today?) to those that are large and very life changing (Who will I marry? What career will I choose?). Well it was that almost year ago when I proceeded to make one of those life changing Decisions and kick the nicotine to the curb.
Do I regret? Hell No other than not making that Decision sooner. So I say to everyone reading this that comes onto KTC, Make sure you look at yourself, think about it and then to yourself make that determination to QUIT after considering it, because without this and making this DECISION, you may not allow yourself the strength to follow it up (ie sticking to that Decision every damn day).
I hope you new quitters take heed of this and make it serious as am not liking what I am seeing with the newer groups as, to me, that people are not making this Decision before jumping in here.
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Day 355
Taking another look through my thread, seeing the history over the past almost year, and realize that when it came time at that point last year to quit, that it was a Decision that I was to make, and then to honor it each and every day.
Decision – “a determination arrived at after a consideration.” .For me that definitely is the perfect definition from the Websters Dictionary.
Throughout our lives we make many decisions from small and inconsequential (What will I have for lunch today?) to those that are large and very life changing (Who will I marry? What career will I choose?). Well it was that almost year ago when I proceeded to make one of those life changing Decisions and kick the nicotine to the curb.
Do I regret? Hell No other than not making that Decision sooner. So I say to everyone reading this that comes onto KTC, Make sure you look at yourself, think about it and then to yourself make that determination to QUIT after considering it, because without this and making this DECISION, you may not allow yourself the strength to follow it up (ie sticking to that Decision every damn day).
I hope you new quitters take heed of this and make it serious as am not liking what I am seeing with the newer groups as, to me, that people are not making this Decision before jumping in here.
SirD is wise. Every noob should read this before posting some BS in thier intro that they are quitting "tomorrow", or for their kids, or for their dad.
Quit for yourself. Quit each day. Keep your word. Repeat.
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Day 355
Taking another look through my thread, seeing the history over the past almost year, and realize that when it came time at that point last year to quit, that it was a Decision that I was to make, and then to honor it each and every day.
Decision – “a determination arrived at after a consideration.” .For me that definitely is the perfect definition from the Websters Dictionary.
Throughout our lives we make many decisions from small and inconsequential (What will I have for lunch today?) to those that are large and very life changing (Who will I marry? What career will I choose?). Well it was that almost year ago when I proceeded to make one of those life changing Decisions and kick the nicotine to the curb.
Do I regret? Hell No other than not making that Decision sooner. So I say to everyone reading this that comes onto KTC, Make sure you look at yourself, think about it and then to yourself make that determination to QUIT after considering it, because without this and making this DECISION, you may not allow yourself the strength to follow it up (ie sticking to that Decision every damn day).
I hope you new quitters take heed of this and make it serious as am not liking what I am seeing with the newer groups as, to me, that people are not making this Decision before jumping in here.
SirD is wise. Every noob should read this before posting some BS in thier intro that they are quitting "tomorrow", or for their kids, or for their dad.
Quit for yourself. Quit each day. Keep your word. Repeat.
Words of wisdom worthy if you ask me. Proud to be quit with you today brother! EDD and NAFAR!
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Day 355
Taking another look through my thread, seeing the history over the past almost year, and realize that when it came time at that point last year to quit, that it was a Decision that I was to make, and then to honor it each and every day.
Decision � �a determination arrived at after a consideration.� .For me that definitely is the perfect definition from the Websters Dictionary.
Throughout our lives we make many decisions from small and inconsequential (What will I have for lunch today?) to those that are large and very life changing (Who will I marry? What career will I choose?). Well it was that almost year ago when I proceeded to make one of those life changing Decisions and kick the nicotine to the curb.
Do I regret? Hell No other than not making that Decision sooner. So I say to everyone reading this that comes onto KTC, Make sure you look at yourself, think about it and then to yourself make that determination to QUIT after considering it, because without this and making this DECISION, you may not allow yourself the strength to follow it up (ie sticking to that Decision every damn day).
I hope you new quitters take heed of this and make it serious as am not liking what I am seeing with the newer groups as, to me, that people are not making this Decision before jumping in here.
SirD is wise. Every noob should read this before posting some BS in thier intro that they are quitting "tomorrow", or for their kids, or for their dad.
Quit for yourself. Quit each day. Keep your word. Repeat.
Words of wisdom worthy if you ask me. Proud to be quit with you today brother! EDD and NAFAR!
Another snippet of the wisdom that is our Sir Derek! Proud to have you as a brother in quit my friend!
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, *BrettÂ….)
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Nice work D!
Enjoy the day and set a your goal
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
'dance' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2' 'party2' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2'
'hoftrain' :Winner:
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
'dance' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2' 'party2' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2'
'hoftrain' :Winner:
Great year man - the fb pics and talking to Bill have me thinking I need to invest in some ddpyoga DVD's! Keep up the good work you do for yourself and for so many others here at KTC and I suspect so many others you impact in other areas of your life. So... to my brother in quit, to my friend - congrats on 1 year Derek!
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2Â…technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, Â….)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
'dance' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2' 'party2' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2'
'hoftrain' :Winner:
Great year man - the fb pics and talking to Bill have me thinking I need to invest in some ddpyoga DVD's! Keep up the good work you do for yourself and for so many others here at KTC and I suspect so many others you impact in other areas of your life. So... to my brother in quit, to my friend - congrats on 1 year Derek!
Nice SirDerek you are inspiration to the word quit keep up your efforts to keep yourself and others quit...quit w you today
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2�technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, �.)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
'dance' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2' 'party2' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2'
'hoftrain' :Winner:
Great year man - the fb pics and talking to Bill have me thinking I need to invest in some ddpyoga DVD's! Keep up the good work you do for yourself and for so many others here at KTC and I suspect so many others you impact in other areas of your life. So... to my brother in quit, to my friend - congrats on 1 year Derek!
Nice SirDerek you are inspiration to the word quit keep up your efforts to keep yourself and others quit...quit w you today
To the man who helps us all keep our perspective, well done brother! I am glad to have gotten to know you and been able to walk this path with you!!
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2�technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, �.)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
'dance' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2' 'party2' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2'
'hoftrain' :Winner:
Great year man - the fb pics and talking to Bill have me thinking I need to invest in some ddpyoga DVD's! Keep up the good work you do for yourself and for so many others here at KTC and I suspect so many others you impact in other areas of your life. So... to my brother in quit, to my friend - congrats on 1 year Derek!
Nice SirDerek you are inspiration to the word quit keep up your efforts to keep yourself and others quit...quit w you today
To the man who helps us all keep our perspective, well done brother! I am glad to have gotten to know you and been able to walk this path with you!!
Extremely well done, tip of the cap to you.
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2�technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, �.)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
'dance' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2' 'party2' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2'
'hoftrain' :Winner:
Great year man - the fb pics and talking to Bill have me thinking I need to invest in some ddpyoga DVD's! Keep up the good work you do for yourself and for so many others here at KTC and I suspect so many others you impact in other areas of your life. So... to my brother in quit, to my friend - congrats on 1 year Derek!
Nice SirDerek you are inspiration to the word quit keep up your efforts to keep yourself and others quit...quit w you today
To the man who helps us all keep our perspective, well done brother! I am glad to have gotten to know you and been able to walk this path with you!!
Extremely well done, tip of the cap to you.
Belated congratulations SirDerek! Keep on kickin' nic's ass on a daily basis brother.
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2�technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, �.)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
'dance' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2' 'party2' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2'
'hoftrain' :Winner:
Great year man - the fb pics and talking to Bill have me thinking I need to invest in some ddpyoga DVD's! Keep up the good work you do for yourself and for so many others here at KTC and I suspect so many others you impact in other areas of your life. So... to my brother in quit, to my friend - congrats on 1 year Derek!
Nice SirDerek you are inspiration to the word quit keep up your efforts to keep yourself and others quit...quit w you today
To the man who helps us all keep our perspective, well done brother! I am glad to have gotten to know you and been able to walk this path with you!!
Extremely well done, tip of the cap to you.
Belated congratulations SirDerek! Keep on kickin' nic's ass on a daily basis brother.
Got a year. Excellent!
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Day 365 = 1 Year
Well 1 trip around the sun is complete. It is difficult to write out all that I am feeling now. Am I happy, well yes I am ecstatic. I have for 365 days given my word (ok 364 times as my first post was my day 2�technicalities, technicalities 'crackup' ). I have a 100% posting. I stand here with no nicotine in my system. I have taken my life back from all the time I have wasted. I have taken my health back not only from high blood pressure but since May 2nd the exercise and weight loss has me down to almost the weight I was last year when I quit (had gained 30, 25+ of which is gone now). I have taken back my finances, spending it on more fun items and putting it towards my kids.
Was it a rough time? Hell yes it was. But I remember someone saying that if something you do is easy, then it will not be as rewarding as something that is more difficult to do. And this I assure everyone as I stand here it feels very rewarding.
Was it a rollercoaster? Hell yes it was. I had the ups and then the downs. My emotions ranged the whole scale. Sometimes I felt so good, others felt like crap, and still others I did not care or give a damn. And today I still dream and know I will still have this up and down (maybe not as low), but to me it was all worth it.
So at the end of this ONE YEAR, I can only say that I have taken my life back in so many more ways than just being nicotine free. I owe to KTC more than words can express for helping to make myself discover the better person inside that I had been suppressing all along.
And to my Madmen who have been there along the way, I cannot express more gratitude, I thank you all (in no particular order: Eric, Drew, Ben, Cindy, Mitchell, Scott, Bob, Kristen, Jay, Pat, Wes, �.)
Awesome, proud to quit with you today!
'oh yeah'
Sing the praises, SirDerek!
Proud to be quit with you bud.
'clap'
Awesom Job!
Proud to be Quit with you
Congrats on your first lap. Proud to be quit with you.
Awesome quit brother!
Congrats on making one year!
Proud to be quit with you!
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'Cheers' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
'dance' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2' 'party2' 'party2' 'chew2' 'chew2' 'chew2'
'hoftrain' :Winner:
Great year man - the fb pics and talking to Bill have me thinking I need to invest in some ddpyoga DVD's! Keep up the good work you do for yourself and for so many others here at KTC and I suspect so many others you impact in other areas of your life. So... to my brother in quit, to my friend - congrats on 1 year Derek!
Nice SirDerek you are inspiration to the word quit keep up your efforts to keep yourself and others quit...quit w you today
To the man who helps us all keep our perspective, well done brother! I am glad to have gotten to know you and been able to walk this path with you!!
Extremely well done, tip of the cap to you.
Belated congratulations SirDerek! Keep on kickin' nic's ass on a daily basis brother.
Got a year. Excellent!
Thanks for leading the way, and your support for all of us.. proud of you
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
You, sir, were one of the first people to extend your hand to me. I was scared, in a fog that I didn't understand, and felt alone and hopeless. Those initial posts to me gave me hope when I could only see despair.
Your efforts and the efforts of the other vets gave me the mindset that got me to day 210 today. So please, please, keep typing in these intros!
Thank you sir!
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
You, sir, were one of the first people to extend your hand to me. I was scared, in a fog that I didn't understand, and felt alone and hopeless. Those initial posts to me gave me hope when I could only see despair.
Your efforts and the efforts of the other vets gave me the mindset that got me to day 210 today. So please, please, keep typing in these intros!
Thank you sir!
I would also like to thank you for extending your hand and reaching out. Proud to be quit with you today!
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
You, sir, were one of the first people to extend your hand to me. I was scared, in a fog that I didn't understand, and felt alone and hopeless. Those initial posts to me gave me hope when I could only see despair.
Your efforts and the efforts of the other vets gave me the mindset that got me to day 210 today. So please, please, keep typing in these intros!
Thank you sir!
I would also like to thank you for extending your hand and reaching out. Proud to be quit with you today!
^^^^^^ What hi said.
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
You, sir, were one of the first people to extend your hand to me. I was scared, in a fog that I didn't understand, and felt alone and hopeless. Those initial posts to me gave me hope when I could only see despair.
Your efforts and the efforts of the other vets gave me the mindset that got me to day 210 today. So please, please, keep typing in these intros!
Thank you sir!
I would also like to thank you for extending your hand and reaching out. Proud to be quit with you today!
^^^^^^ What hi said.
I too want to thank you for serving as a role model- paying it forward.
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
You, sir, were one of the first people to extend your hand to me. I was scared, in a fog that I didn't understand, and felt alone and hopeless. Those initial posts to me gave me hope when I could only see despair.
Your efforts and the efforts of the other vets gave me the mindset that got me to day 210 today. So please, please, keep typing in these intros!
Thank you sir!
I would also like to thank you for extending your hand and reaching out. Proud to be quit with you today!
^^^^^^ What hi said.
I too want to thank you for serving as a role model- paying it forward.
These are the reasons this site works, proud to be quit with you brother.
Keep kicking nic's ass one day at a time!
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
You, sir, were one of the first people to extend your hand to me. I was scared, in a fog that I didn't understand, and felt alone and hopeless. Those initial posts to me gave me hope when I could only see despair.
Your efforts and the efforts of the other vets gave me the mindset that got me to day 210 today. So please, please, keep typing in these intros!
Thank you sir!
I would also like to thank you for extending your hand and reaching out. Proud to be quit with you today!
^^^^^^ What hi said.
I too want to thank you for serving as a role model- paying it forward.
These are the reasons this site works, proud to be quit with you brother.
Keep kicking nic's ass one day at a time!
Thanks to quitters like you i'm here. No doubt I would be knuckle deep in a can of poison if it were not for this sight and people like you. Thanks for not telling me what I wanted to hear, but what I needed to hear. Glad to be quit with you SD...
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
You, sir, were one of the first people to extend your hand to me. I was scared, in a fog that I didn't understand, and felt alone and hopeless. Those initial posts to me gave me hope when I could only see despair.
Your efforts and the efforts of the other vets gave me the mindset that got me to day 210 today. So please, please, keep typing in these intros!
Thank you sir!
I would also like to thank you for extending your hand and reaching out. Proud to be quit with you today!
^^^^^^ What hi said.
I too want to thank you for serving as a role model- paying it forward.
These are the reasons this site works, proud to be quit with you brother.
Keep kicking nic's ass one day at a time!
Thanks to quitters like you i'm here. No doubt I would be knuckle deep in a can of poison if it were not for this sight and people like you. Thanks for not telling me what I wanted to hear, but what I needed to hear. Glad to be quit with you SD...
So my 3rd day quit!!still hard but doing better than I thought I would be:)
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Day 385
Reaching out an open hand.
I have been thinking of this small gesture where one takes his arm, with an open hand and stretches it out in front of him or herself.
It is a very simple gesture, but one that can, and has had a tremendous meaning here at KTC.
Over a year ago, that is what I did when I joined here. I stood up when I quit and knew I needed the help so I reached out my hand asking for the help of others. I then through the life of my quit so far did that same gesture when I needed the extra support when I was craving or just having the bad/down days. And I found when I did this, the brotherhood here took my hand and got me through each and every time. I see this each and every day, as someone new logs in here and gives their first post, or a low day count in their daily quit, reaches out their hand and those of us in the brotherhood come to the aid. I can just recommend that those that do not do this simple gesture to start as it will help to solidify your quit.
I have also now seen from the other end where those veterans on the site open their hand and reach out. This is not as much as an asking for help, but, in my opinion, more of a “here is a hand to help you”, that I am giving of myself and my support to help through the hard times of the initial quit. These are the guys that are paying it forward, who have been through the fog, the fight, and have put up a winning record. By reaching out they hope not only to help others, but to help themselves in the reminder of what was, and that they themselves can never again for any reason.
So whether you are a newbie, or whether you have many a days where you have posted up that +1, the gesture is the same. Just reach out with that open hand, and see what happens.
And I may not be a psychic, but I have seen throughout the year that those that have done it, are still +1 today.
Well said brother. For anyone who does not know sirderek, his is a hand that is always there to help. For the times you have pulled m through a day, thank you.
You, sir, were one of the first people to extend your hand to me. I was scared, in a fog that I didn't understand, and felt alone and hopeless. Those initial posts to me gave me hope when I could only see despair.
Your efforts and the efforts of the other vets gave me the mindset that got me to day 210 today. So please, please, keep typing in these intros!
Thank you sir!
I would also like to thank you for extending your hand and reaching out. Proud to be quit with you today!
^^^^^^ What hi said.
I too want to thank you for serving as a role model- paying it forward.
These are the reasons this site works, proud to be quit with you brother.
Keep kicking nic's ass one day at a time!
Thanks to quitters like you i'm here. No doubt I would be knuckle deep in a can of poison if it were not for this sight and people like you. Thanks for not telling me what I wanted to hear, but what I needed to hear. Glad to be quit with you SD...
So my 3rd day quit!!still hard but doing better than I thought I would be:)
Hey everyone!!so it's day 4 quit and I feel like I'm going insane..yesterday was headaches and nausea along with moodiness..today, lets be honest,I am a straight up bitch :(
But I know this to shall pass,God I hope so.lol.nah I know it will
all of this just makes me more determined to stay quit..4 days might not seem like much to some,but to me its huge..that's 4 cans that I haven't dipped!!Goodluck everyone and thanks to all of you guys on here who have reached out to me even though I'm still learning all of this..honestly y'all are life savers..as I don't have any support here at home..husband made a remark this morning he would go get me a can..I said no I've quit this time no matter how hard it is..going to keep that mindset
Taking it a day at a time,
Traci
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Day 396 –
Thought I would pen this down as the observation throughout the year as to people hitting the HOF and drifting away, or stopping to post when they hit 200, or even 1 year. A lot of questions arise as to why, or even better, what can be done to help to keep them posting. I have also seen division come about when different styles are done that I am not sure whether they lead to a greater retention or not. And I am definitely not one who wants to judge anyone or any of the processes that are being developed. But what I have seen and am sure of is, is whatever may be developed, without one of the pillars of this site in place, there will be nothing that will help.
That pillar that I am speaking of is BROTHERHOOD.
I did a search for the definition of this and could not believe my eyes as to the power of what the 1 definition displays: The feeling of kinship with and closeness to a group of people or all people.
Just think about that for a second in reference as to why people leave and do not post. I think you can see in some where this is a rather simple explanation.
So my response to those who ask how to make people stick around is right thereÂ…..its develop those relationships with one another that makes you want to stick around.
Build that Brotherhood. Cause without it, we are all aloneÂ….and remember what happened when we tried to quit alone.
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Day 396 –
Thought I would pen this down as the observation throughout the year as to people hitting the HOF and drifting away, or stopping to post when they hit 200, or even 1 year. A lot of questions arise as to why, or even better, what can be done to help to keep them posting. I have also seen division come about when different styles are done that I am not sure whether they lead to a greater retention or not. And I am definitely not one who wants to judge anyone or any of the processes that are being developed. But what I have seen and am sure of is, is whatever may be developed, without one of the pillars of this site in place, there will be nothing that will help.
That pillar that I am speaking of is BROTHERHOOD.
I did a search for the definition of this and could not believe my eyes as to the power of what the 1 definition displays: The feeling of kinship with and closeness to a group of people or all people.
Just think about that for a second in reference as to why people leave and do not post. I think you can see in some where this is a rather simple explanation.
So my response to those who ask how to make people stick around is right thereÂ…..its develop those relationships with one another that makes you want to stick around.
Build that Brotherhood. Cause without it, we are all aloneÂ….and remember what happened when we tried to quit alone.
Great Stuff SD.
Love you man! :rolleyes:
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Day 396 –
Thought I would pen this down as the observation throughout the year as to people hitting the HOF and drifting away, or stopping to post when they hit 200, or even 1 year. A lot of questions arise as to why, or even better, what can be done to help to keep them posting. I have also seen division come about when different styles are done that I am not sure whether they lead to a greater retention or not. And I am definitely not one who wants to judge anyone or any of the processes that are being developed. But what I have seen and am sure of is, is whatever may be developed, without one of the pillars of this site in place, there will be nothing that will help.
That pillar that I am speaking of is BROTHERHOOD.
I did a search for the definition of this and could not believe my eyes as to the power of what the 1 definition displays: The feeling of kinship with and closeness to a group of people or all people.
Just think about that for a second in reference as to why people leave and do not post. I think you can see in some where this is a rather simple explanation.
So my response to those who ask how to make people stick around is right thereÂ…..its develop those relationships with one another that makes you want to stick around.
Build that Brotherhood. Cause without it, we are all alone….and remember what happened when we tried to quit alone.
Great Stuff SD.
Love you man! :rolleyes:
Dude your awesome! :wub:
Proud to be quit with you again today!
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Day 396 –
Thought I would pen this down as the observation throughout the year as to people hitting the HOF and drifting away, or stopping to post when they hit 200, or even 1 year. A lot of questions arise as to why, or even better, what can be done to help to keep them posting. I have also seen division come about when different styles are done that I am not sure whether they lead to a greater retention or not. And I am definitely not one who wants to judge anyone or any of the processes that are being developed. But what I have seen and am sure of is, is whatever may be developed, without one of the pillars of this site in place, there will be nothing that will help.
That pillar that I am speaking of is BROTHERHOOD.
I did a search for the definition of this and could not believe my eyes as to the power of what the 1 definition displays: The feeling of kinship with and closeness to a group of people or all people.
Just think about that for a second in reference as to why people leave and do not post. I think you can see in some where this is a rather simple explanation.
So my response to those who ask how to make people stick around is right thereÂ…..its develop those relationships with one another that makes you want to stick around.
Build that Brotherhood. Cause without it, we are all alone….and remember what happened when we tried to quit alone.
Great Stuff SD.
Love you man! :rolleyes:
Dude your awesome! :wub:
Proud to be quit with you again today!
Well said.
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Day 396 –
Thought I would pen this down as the observation throughout the year as to people hitting the HOF and drifting away, or stopping to post when they hit 200, or even 1 year. A lot of questions arise as to why, or even better, what can be done to help to keep them posting. I have also seen division come about when different styles are done that I am not sure whether they lead to a greater retention or not. And I am definitely not one who wants to judge anyone or any of the processes that are being developed. But what I have seen and am sure of is, is whatever may be developed, without one of the pillars of this site in place, there will be nothing that will help.
That pillar that I am speaking of is BROTHERHOOD.
I did a search for the definition of this and could not believe my eyes as to the power of what the 1 definition displays: The feeling of kinship with and closeness to a group of people or all people.
Just think about that for a second in reference as to why people leave and do not post. I think you can see in some where this is a rather simple explanation.
So my response to those who ask how to make people stick around is right thereÂ…..its develop those relationships with one another that makes you want to stick around.
Build that Brotherhood. Cause without it, we are all alone….and remember what happened when we tried to quit alone.
Great Stuff SD.
Love you man! :rolleyes:
Dude your awesome! :wub:
Proud to be quit with you again today!
Well said.
your so awesome proud to quit with you
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Day 396 –
Thought I would pen this down as the observation throughout the year as to people hitting the HOF and drifting away, or stopping to post when they hit 200, or even 1 year. A lot of questions arise as to why, or even better, what can be done to help to keep them posting. I have also seen division come about when different styles are done that I am not sure whether they lead to a greater retention or not. And I am definitely not one who wants to judge anyone or any of the processes that are being developed. But what I have seen and am sure of is, is whatever may be developed, without one of the pillars of this site in place, there will be nothing that will help.
That pillar that I am speaking of is BROTHERHOOD.
I did a search for the definition of this and could not believe my eyes as to the power of what the 1 definition displays: The feeling of kinship with and closeness to a group of people or all people.
Just think about that for a second in reference as to why people leave and do not post. I think you can see in some where this is a rather simple explanation.
So my response to those who ask how to make people stick around is right thereÂ…..its develop those relationships with one another that makes you want to stick around.
Build that Brotherhood. Cause without it, we are all alone….and remember what happened when we tried to quit alone.
Great Stuff SD.
Love you man! :rolleyes:
Dude your awesome! :wub:
Proud to be quit with you again today!
Well said.
your so awesome proud to quit with you
Very True in all of life. The issue is whether the addict will accept the fact they need to think differently and stop lying to themselves so they can wholeheartedly actively join the brotherhood. much respect for u SD and many others who have done this very thing everyday since day one.
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
I was reading my intro the other day and it is amazing how things change over time. Congrats on your 400 days of freedom! For the Newbs, read intro's of some of the vets and realize that we were all just like you 200, 300 or 1,000 days ago.
Congrats Sir D!!
J
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
Nice job brother, thats the way to kick nic's ass one day at a time!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
Nice job brother, thats the way to kick nic's ass one day at a time!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
'worship'
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
Nice job brother, thats the way to kick nic's ass one day at a time!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
'worship'
:wub:
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
Nice job brother, thats the way to kick nic's ass one day at a time!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
'worship'
:wub:
proud to quit with you sir!
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
Nice job brother, thats the way to kick nic's ass one day at a time!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
'worship'
:wub:
proud to quit with you sir!
Thanks for taking the time and sharing that again.
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
Nice job brother, thats the way to kick nic's ass one day at a time!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
'worship'
:wub:
proud to quit with you sir!
Thanks for taking the time and sharing that again.
It is amazing to go back and read the first and the last post of some of you that are at the year + mark. Also amazing is what we let nicotine and tobacco do to us for years and years. Total bullshit. You were one of the first to reach out to many of us when we first joined. Our posts seem to all convey a weak hope that we can pull off the seeming impossible, while still sending a message that nicotine is our friend and we had a lot of fun with or because of it. Again - total bullshit.
Life is so much sweeter being free. I'm glad you are enjoying your freedom, and I like many others thank you not only for sharing this, but for reaching out and pulling us in to this site when darkness was setting in.
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
Nice job brother, thats the way to kick nic's ass one day at a time!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
'worship'
:wub:
proud to quit with you sir!
Thanks for taking the time and sharing that again.
It is amazing to go back and read the first and the last post of some of you that are at the year + mark. Also amazing is what we let nicotine and tobacco do to us for years and years. Total bullshit. You were one of the first to reach out to many of us when we first joined. Our posts seem to all convey a weak hope that we can pull off the seeming impossible, while still sending a message that nicotine is our friend and we had a lot of fun with or because of it. Again - total bullshit.
Life is so much sweeter being free. I'm glad you are enjoying your freedom, and I like many others thank you not only for sharing this, but for reaching out and pulling us in to this site when darkness was setting in.
I read a lot of your intro for the first time today thanks to worktowin's words,,, sd. Good stuff. It's cool to read and see where a person comes from in this journey. Glad your hear to lead the way brother.
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self bump, and hope to become evident for new guys who can read this and compare
Day 4 0 0
Ok well got a trip around the sun completed and have climbed up to the 4th floor. This all at the completion of the weekend where as you can read was a nightmare just a year ago. Day 36 -
ok I do not know what was tougher, the first weeked (days 6/7) or this past one.
for those not familiar with summer team competitive swimming, this weekend was championships. Waking saturday morning at 5:30 am, pack and drive for 1 hour for sons to warm up in the pool, then wait 1 hour for the meet to start, session lasts 4 hours where sons may swim for a total of 4 minutes on 2 occassions. Then we get a break of 3 hours to start a new warm up, wait again an hour, then again for the final swims. Well then the 1 hour drive to get home at 10 pm unpack then sleep to repeat the above for Sunday.
Of course doing all this in 90+ heat, and 90%+ humidity, with having stomach issues to keeping liquids in my body..horrifying.
Now alot of down time, waiting ,where in the past would sit back with a dip in, and boy was that nic bitch calling sweetly, with the mini mart just down the block. Would be a 20 minute walk, very simple and would not have missed anything. BUT Saturday I thought to myself "no you posted....you gave your word".
Now Sunday I had overslept and wife had to drag me out of bed to get in the car. Had the same thoughts though as the grim reapess was singing loudly. This time I could just think of needing to get my word on that list.
Well I made it through, I am still QUIT, I am still strong and there are gonna be no chinks in that armor I am forging. I am not going to let any of my brothers and sisters of October done, and especially I am not going to let myself down.
What a complete difference a year makes:
Guess this year got lucky as temps were in the 80-85 degrees. Did not have any stomach or system issues.
The mini-mart did call, but this time was for a nice 24 ounce mug of coffee. Was so nice to make that walk (to which I never would have last year), laughing the entire time about how well I was feeling.
I had posted each morning, was in the chat room Saturday night for a little bit, I wore the KTC wristband and had more than enough phone numbers on hand, but I have to say the nic bitch was no where in sight. Did not rear here head or whisper once all weekend long.
the armor is f*cking strong and you all at KTC have helped to make it so.
So all, forge your own armor as you put the days behind you one at a time, and I promise (as seen here), that things do get so much better.
Now where it the roll in the morning so I can put another +1 on my way to that half-comma.
Nice job brother, thats the way to kick nic's ass one day at a time!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
'worship'
:wub:
proud to quit with you sir!
Thanks for taking the time and sharing that again.
It is amazing to go back and read the first and the last post of some of you that are at the year + mark. Also amazing is what we let nicotine and tobacco do to us for years and years. Total bullshit. You were one of the first to reach out to many of us when we first joined. Our posts seem to all convey a weak hope that we can pull off the seeming impossible, while still sending a message that nicotine is our friend and we had a lot of fun with or because of it. Again - total bullshit.
Life is so much sweeter being free. I'm glad you are enjoying your freedom, and I like many others thank you
Damn good stuff here!!
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Day 422
And the recollection of attending my 2nd large KTC get together here in PA.
ok I have before spoke of Brotherhood and the Accountability that is the basis of this site. And they both lead into how I feel after this past weekend.
Close to a year ago, I was invited to the first large get together (their 5th annual in PA). At first I thought, I was going a little nuts. Yes we all chat in the chat room here, we reply to PM's and post in the roll and on threads for the interaction, heck some of us are over on facebook so we also have the pictures to see what we all look like. But I never thought before of actually getting together with any one from here.
Am I glad I did. I cannot say how meeting the guys here in PA (and those that come from all around), has affected my quit, but when I now have even the slightest of craving, not only do I see myself starting back at me in a mirror, but I see those in my Oct12 group, I see the quitters I have met in person AND now I also see their families there all standing behind me.
Emotional, yes, and this is where that Brotherhood is taken to its extreme. I mean who would ever think that a semi-couch potato like myself (is changing), could sit around with a couple of endurance athletes and have anything to say to one another. Or someone highly afraid of heights could be around a sky diver. Or a 'northerner' with a Texan or Tennessean (great accents by the way ya'all... :D ). But there we sat, like long time close friends telling stories, reliving the past, laughing and laughing.
I was thinking back to when we start, and I see that we list out all those things that we think we cannot do without that crap in our lip. Well I have to say that after this weekend without that crap in my lip I had one of the best weekends that I can ever remember in my life.
So again I say thank you to KTC, and I think Chewie summed it up in the one picture of our group from the weekend. It states the number of days quit that we had in the picture but goes on to say
"Friendships Made At KTC... Priceless" And trust me, they are.
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I'm finding that in only just a few days on this site Derek. That brotherhood accountability to each other is what gives real meaning to the daily roll call commitment forces you to be a real man follow through on it. That to me is the real success of this site for the short time I've been on it.
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Day 422
And the recollection of attending my 2nd large KTC get together here in PA.
ok I have before spoke of Brotherhood and the Accountability that is the basis of this site. And they both lead into how I feel after this past weekend.
Close to a year ago, I was invited to the first large get together (their 5th annual in PA). At first I thought, I was going a little nuts. Yes we all chat in the chat room here, we reply to PM's and post in the roll and on threads for the interaction, heck some of us are over on facebook so we also have the pictures to see what we all look like. But I never thought before of actually getting together with any one from here.
Am I glad I did. I cannot say how meeting the guys here in PA (and those that come from all around), has affected my quit, but when I now have even the slightest of craving, not only do I see myself starting back at me in a mirror, but I see those in my Oct12 group, I see the quitters I have met in person AND now I also see their families there all standing behind me.
Emotional, yes, and this is where that Brotherhood is taken to its extreme. I mean who would ever think that a semi-couch potato like myself (is changing), could sit around with a couple of endurance athletes and have anything to say to one another. Or someone highly afraid of heights could be around a sky diver. Or a 'northerner' with a Texan or Tennessean (great accents by the way ya'all... :D ). But there we sat, like long time close friends telling stories, reliving the past, laughing and laughing.
I was thinking back to when we start, and I see that we list out all those things that we think we cannot do without that crap in our lip. Well I have to say that after this weekend without that crap in my lip I had one of the best weekends that I can ever remember in my life.
So again I say thank you to KTC, and I think Chewie summed it up in the one picture of our group from the weekend. It states the number of days quit that we had in the picture but goes on to say
"Friendships Made At KTC... Priceless" And trust me, they are.
Knight of the KTC Castle :wub:
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Sept 11 (day 437)
Well on a day of remembrance I thought I would look back upon my quit and like I have seen, some have thought of a ‘theme song’ for theirs, but for me I think the pieces throughout are different so I have different songs as I tell my story (ok a little corny but that is me)
So July 2nd 2012 was the date that I finally decided to begin my quit and said Goodbye (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaZwEebiwXo) to nicotine for the first and last time. I had been reading on the site but had no idea as to what I was getting into so I took that big Gamble (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4nJ1YEAp4) and threw caution to the wind. In all the reading and following the KTC creed I posted each and every day that I would not use any nicotine for that day, and then I honored and Stood beside and behind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_s-Qk07KxA) that word that I gave to these strangers. When I told others that I quit, they looked at me with crossed eyes as they had seen it all before, but as I finally understood I can change (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iSf8wxEttk).Hence my journey was off and running with all of the Ups and Downs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4X1_3VipWs) and fighting through the Funks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFG9dwolo3Q) that occurred along the way. Then one day it happened and I got to the first milestone that we shoot for, Day 100 the hall of fame, and like most it was a day of Celebration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M) for me and my family here. It was during this time and right after my day 100 where it finally felt like my family was growing with my new brothers and sisters here on the site, and when I went to the PA Get Together 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5LlkvWexvA) and met some in person. With that meeting and the growing support and family feeling that I get with the others on here, it makes me feel great and strong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPS361ysbpk) about my quit. And for what was done for me, I look to those who have just quit to Walk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i3pqJ2jqLo) along side them.
ok this is part of the story as there will be so much more to add as I continue through this life long journey, feeling better and better and putting my past behind me. And all links are safe.
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Congrats Derek on 437 days!!
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500 – 13 Nov 2013
A number to me that more related to having a winning sports team, or watching at Indianapolis or Daytona. Well now the number 500 has a higher additional meaning. You see I have an addiction to a drug that comes in a small, round, plastic, little tin, and on July 2, 2012 I dumped my last and have not had any come across my lip. Yes I used to dip tobacco and I quit. I owe tons to my wife Kim, and sons Alex and Nolan for their support and understanding, but I also owe a great deal to my new family that I found on www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) . There are brothers and sisters who have gone through the same thing as I have and we have come out so much the better. There are too many to name but everyone from Drew, Eric, Cindy, Ben, Wes, Brett, Scott, Kristen, Bob, Jay, Mitchell in our monthly group to Jack, Greg, Chris, Rich, Matt, Tim, Dave, Benji, Phil, Corey, Ed, Bill, Tiffany Â…..well hope you all get the idea as to the size of the support that we get and give. So 500 days clean, and so many more planned ahead.
Thank you all.
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500 – 13 Nov 2013
A number to me that more related to having a winning sports team, or watching at Indianapolis or Daytona. Well now the number 500 has a higher additional meaning. You see I have an addiction to a drug that comes in a small, round, plastic, little tin, and on July 2, 2012 I dumped my last and have not had any come across my lip. Yes I used to dip tobacco and I quit. I owe tons to my wife Kim, and sons Alex and Nolan for their support and understanding, but I also owe a great deal to my new family that I found on www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) . There are brothers and sisters who have gone through the same thing as I have and we have come out so much the better. There are too many to name but everyone from Drew, Eric, Cindy, Ben, Wes, Brett, Scott, Kristen, Bob, Jay, Mitchell in our monthly group to Jack, Greg, Chris, Rich, Matt, Tim, Dave, Benji, Phil, Corey, Ed, Bill, Tiffany Â…..well hope you all get the idea as to the size of the support that we get and give. So 500 days clean, and so many more planned ahead.
Thank you all.
Well done Sir. 'oh yeah'
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500 – 13 Nov 2013
A number to me that more related to having a winning sports team, or watching at Indianapolis or Daytona. Well now the number 500 has a higher additional meaning. You see I have an addiction to a drug that comes in a small, round, plastic, little tin, and on July 2, 2012 I dumped my last and have not had any come across my lip. Yes I used to dip tobacco and I quit. I owe tons to my wife Kim, and sons Alex and Nolan for their support and understanding, but I also owe a great deal to my new family that I found on www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) . There are brothers and sisters who have gone through the same thing as I have and we have come out so much the better. There are too many to name but everyone from Drew, Eric, Cindy, Ben, Wes, Brett, Scott, Kristen, Bob, Jay, Mitchell in our monthly group to Jack, Greg, Chris, Rich, Matt, Tim, Dave, Benji, Phil, Corey, Ed, Bill, Tiffany Â…..well hope you all get the idea as to the size of the support that we get and give. So 500 days clean, and so many more planned ahead.
Thank you all.
Well done Sir. 'oh yeah'
Awesome 1/2 comma SD!!!
Love you Man!!
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500 – 13 Nov 2013
A number to me that more related to having a winning sports team, or watching at Indianapolis or Daytona. Well now the number 500 has a higher additional meaning. You see I have an addiction to a drug that comes in a small, round, plastic, little tin, and on July 2, 2012 I dumped my last and have not had any come across my lip. Yes I used to dip tobacco and I quit. I owe tons to my wife Kim, and sons Alex and Nolan for their support and understanding, but I also owe a great deal to my new family that I found on www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) . There are brothers and sisters who have gone through the same thing as I have and we have come out so much the better. There are too many to name but everyone from Drew, Eric, Cindy, Ben, Wes, Brett, Scott, Kristen, Bob, Jay, Mitchell in our monthly group to Jack, Greg, Chris, Rich, Matt, Tim, Dave, Benji, Phil, Corey, Ed, Bill, Tiffany Â…..well hope you all get the idea as to the size of the support that we get and give. So 500 days clean, and so many more planned ahead.
Thank you all.
Well done Sir. 'oh yeah'
Awesome 1/2 comma SD!!!
Love you Man!!
Congrats are deserved but I knew you would get to the 5th, 6th etc. :wub:
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500 – 13 Nov 2013
A number to me that more related to having a winning sports team, or watching at Indianapolis or Daytona. Well now the number 500 has a higher additional meaning. You see I have an addiction to a drug that comes in a small, round, plastic, little tin, and on July 2, 2012 I dumped my last and have not had any come across my lip. Yes I used to dip tobacco and I quit. I owe tons to my wife Kim, and sons Alex and Nolan for their support and understanding, but I also owe a great deal to my new family that I found on www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) . There are brothers and sisters who have gone through the same thing as I have and we have come out so much the better. There are too many to name but everyone from Drew, Eric, Cindy, Ben, Wes, Brett, Scott, Kristen, Bob, Jay, Mitchell in our monthly group to Jack, Greg, Chris, Rich, Matt, Tim, Dave, Benji, Phil, Corey, Ed, Bill, Tiffany Â…..well hope you all get the idea as to the size of the support that we get and give. So 500 days clean, and so many more planned ahead.
Thank you all.
Well done Sir. 'oh yeah'
Awesome 1/2 comma SD!!!
Love you Man!!
Congrats are deserved but I knew you would get to the 5th, 6th etc. :wub:
Congrats brother! Nice quit you got going there!
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Well Played Sir. You are on FIRE!!
'fireman'
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Day 507 -
time to get the old armor out and polish it up again.
As I get the dents out a little, and put a little spit shine on it, I always wonder what it would have been like growing up with a Brother (or Sister). See I was an only child so did not experience it, but now with 2 sons I see the good that they can do together, but I also see the knockdown fights that they can have, the teasing that they can do to one another.
There is great similarity to my 2 sons to what I see happening here at KTC, and yes it goes in great cycles. There are days upon days where the support flies around both within the groups and across the site as a whole. Then, and will just say wow, we get the knock down drag out fights where it looks like two or more are going to rip each other new ones.
So as an outsider looking it, I can just say take a look at yourselves and see what truly is going on. Arguing is a part of life and a part of the diversity that brings us all side by side to fight in this life long battle to kick nicotine out of our lives, as Brothers and Sisters.
There that armor has a nice shine....who needs the extra support in their fight...join me and quit on.
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Day 507 -
time to get the old armor out and polish it up again.
As I get the dents out a little, and put a little spit shine on it, I always wonder what it would have been like growing up with a Brother (or Sister). See I was an only child so did not experience it, but now with 2 sons I see the good that they can do together, but I also see the knockdown fights that they can have, the teasing that they can do to one another.
There is great similarity to my 2 sons to what I see happening here at KTC, and yes it goes in great cycles. There are days upon days where the support flies around both within the groups and across the site as a whole. Then, and will just say wow, we get the knock down drag out fights where it looks like two or more are going to rip each other new ones.
So as an outsider looking it, I can just say take a look at yourselves and see what truly is going on. Arguing is a part of life and a part of the diversity that brings us all side by side to fight in this life long battle to kick nicotine out of our lives, as Brothers and Sisters.
There that armor has a nice shine....who needs the extra support in their fight...join me and quit on.
Well put! That metal Polish looks much better than a spit shine too!
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Day 507 -
time to get the old armor out and polish it up again.
As I get the dents out a little, and put a little spit shine on it, I always wonder what it would have been like growing up with a Brother (or Sister). See I was an only child so did not experience it, but now with 2 sons I see the good that they can do together, but I also see the knockdown fights that they can have, the teasing that they can do to one another.
There is great similarity to my 2 sons to what I see happening here at KTC, and yes it goes in great cycles. There are days upon days where the support flies around both within the groups and across the site as a whole. Then, and will just say wow, we get the knock down drag out fights where it looks like two or more are going to rip each other new ones.
So as an outsider looking it, I can just say take a look at yourselves and see what truly is going on. Arguing is a part of life and a part of the diversity that brings us all side by side to fight in this life long battle to kick nicotine out of our lives, as Brothers and Sisters.
There that armor has a nice shine....who needs the extra support in their fight...join me and quit on.
Well put! That metal Polish looks much better than a spit shine too!
I'm ready to storm any castle with ya.
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Day 507 -
time to get the old armor out and polish it up again.
As I get the dents out a little, and put a little spit shine on it, I always wonder what it would have been like growing up with a Brother (or Sister). See I was an only child so did not experience it, but now with 2 sons I see the good that they can do together, but I also see the knockdown fights that they can have, the teasing that they can do to one another.
There is great similarity to my 2 sons to what I see happening here at KTC, and yes it goes in great cycles. There are days upon days where the support flies around both within the groups and across the site as a whole. Then, and will just say wow, we get the knock down drag out fights where it looks like two or more are going to rip each other new ones.
So as an outsider looking it, I can just say take a look at yourselves and see what truly is going on. Arguing is a part of life and a part of the diversity that brings us all side by side to fight in this life long battle to kick nicotine out of our lives, as Brothers and Sisters.
There that armor has a nice shine....who needs the extra support in their fight...join me and quit on.
Well put! That metal Polish looks much better than a spit shine too!
I'm ready to storm any castle with ya.
I am in...who's castle are we headed out for?
LET'S ROLL!!
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Day 507 -
time to get the old armor out and polish it up again.
As I get the dents out a little, and put a little spit shine on it, I always wonder what it would have been like growing up with a Brother (or Sister). See I was an only child so did not experience it, but now with 2 sons I see the good that they can do together, but I also see the knockdown fights that they can have, the teasing that they can do to one another.
There is great similarity to my 2 sons to what I see happening here at KTC, and yes it goes in great cycles. There are days upon days where the support flies around both within the groups and across the site as a whole. Then, and will just say wow, we get the knock down drag out fights where it looks like two or more are going to rip each other new ones.
So as an outsider looking it, I can just say take a look at yourselves and see what truly is going on. Arguing is a part of life and a part of the diversity that brings us all side by side to fight in this life long battle to kick nicotine out of our lives, as Brothers and Sisters.
There that armor has a nice shine....who needs the extra support in their fight...join me and quit on.
Well put! That metal Polish looks much better than a spit shine too!
I'm ready to storm any castle with ya.
I am in...who's castle are we headed out for?
LET'S ROLL!!
I'm with you Sir. Let's shine together
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Day 517 -
oh that damn dirty bitch....now she knows she is losing this battle
alright, I have had the dip dreams, sitting around throwing a fatty it, I get that, I get that its my mind playing the game, trying to lure me back. Yes that is a nightmare,
BUT NOW I am PISSED. This dip dream was totally different. Not sure what it was, but was out somewhere, campfire going on, some cooking, some drinking, and a bunch of you all were there with families, friends, kids running around and playing. I sit by the fire and look next to me, and one of you light up a cigarette. Not mentioning who it was, but dammit this nic bitch is tricky knowing how I care about you all. Trying to play off of my feelings. THIS SUCKS DONKEY.....'bj'
guess I will be walking the walls on guard today, always vigilant my friends...
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Day 517 -
oh that damn dirty bitch....now she knows she is losing this battle
alright, I have had the dip dreams, sitting around throwing a fatty it, I get that, I get that its my mind playing the game, trying to lure me back. Yes that is a nightmare,
BUT NOW I am PISSED. This dip dream was totally different. Not sure what it was, but was out somewhere, campfire going on, some cooking, some drinking, and a bunch of you all were there with families, friends, kids running around and playing. I sit by the fire and look next to me, and one of you light up a cigarette. Not mentioning who it was, but dammit this nic bitch is tricky knowing how I care about you all. Trying to play off of my feelings. THIS SUCKS DONKEY.....'bj'
guess I will be walking the walls on guard today, always vigilant my friends...
I bet it was Mcarmo, he likes smoking poles.
F dip dreams, doesn't seem like they ever go away! Just get weaker, they don't bother me like they use to. Stay strong my friend, I'll quit with you today
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This was posted by Sox2012 over on our DDP Yoga group on FB and it just hits home so much I had to save it here as just apply it to the milestones that we hit here on KTC -
“I have walked that long road to freedom. I have tried not to falter; I have made missteps along the way. But I have discovered the secret that after climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb. I have taken a moment here to rest, to steal a view of the glorious vista that surrounds me, to look back on the distance I have come. But I can only rest for a moment, for with freedom come responsibilities, and I dare not linger, for my long walk is not ended.”
Nelson Mandela........we will miss you
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This was posted by Sox2012 over on our DDP Yoga group on FB and it just hits home so much I had to save it here as just apply it to the milestones that we hit here on KTC -
“I have walked that long road to freedom. I have tried not to falter; I have made missteps along the way. But I have discovered the secret that after climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb. I have taken a moment here to rest, to steal a view of the glorious vista that surrounds me, to look back on the distance I have come. But I can only rest for a moment, for with freedom come responsibilities, and I dare not linger, for my long walk is not ended.”
Nelson Mandela........we will miss you
Thank you for taking the time to share such an inspirational quote. You are such an inspiration bro.
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Another Day Another little tid-bit of information. (ok maybe larger bit).
Its nice hanging out in the chat room, seeing all of you who came before me that still stop in, and those who come after including the newly quit. It comes along time after time where the question comes up for advice.
One common answer there and throughout the threads is "To Be Active on the Site." We all have heard it, and we all have said it, but what does it really mean.
Well lets look (and this is from my standpoint). Being active...is that number of posts, is it where those posts are (intros, quit thread, wildcard???). I have seen in my over 500 days where guys have posted tons in these threads and guess what? They still forget, and then come back to where they are posting from Day 1.
Well let me add where I think those posts are or at least should be. As I think there is a better place for those posts. And that is in the texts that we send to each other. They are in the messages over on facebook when we show ourselves and our families. They are in our voice when we call one another to say hi. And they are definitely in that handshake and hug when we meet each other in person.
Now I do not know some of thenames that are in the thread in this link: Who have you met (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=308).
But for those I do, I can say this. There is a very large commonality for most of them, and just look at the strength of quit that is displayed.
So in my final word, it is not Being Active on the Site that is the most important, it is the Being Active with the Brotherhood.
quit on my brothers and sisters as for those who mean it, I will stand right beside you each and every (damn) day that I give my promise.
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Another Day Another little tid-bit of information. (ok maybe larger bit).
Its nice hanging out in the chat room, seeing all of you who came before me that still stop in, and those who come after including the newly quit. It comes along time after time where the question comes up for advice.
One common answer there and throughout the threads is "To Be Active on the Site." We all have heard it, and we all have said it, but what does it really mean.
Well lets look (and this is from my standpoint). Being active...is that number of posts, is it where those posts are (intros, quit thread, wildcard???). I have seen in my over 500 days where guys have posted tons in these threads and guess what? They still forget, and then come back to where they are posting from Day 1.
Well let me add where I think those posts are or at least should be. As I think there is a better place for those posts. And that is in the texts that we send to each other. They are in the messages over on facebook when we show ourselves and our families. They are in our voice when we call one another to say hi. And they are definitely in that handshake and hug when we meet each other in person.
Now I do not know some of thenames that are in the thread in this link: Who have you met (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=308).
But for those I do, I can say this. There is a very large commonality for most of them, and just look at the strength of quit that is displayed.
So in my final word, it is not Being Active on the Site that is the most important, it is the Being Active with the Brotherhood.
quit on my brothers and sisters as for those who mean it, I will stand right beside you each and every (damn) day that I give my promise.
I could not agree more. Glad to be quit with you SirD.
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poof......not really time or place......
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well 10 days til Christmas, and I am beginning to think I am really a scrooge and disliking this time of year. (where this was one of my favs)
let see, I have donated and equal amount of my weight loss since starting DDP Yoga in food (45 pounds). I have bought and donated clothing to help out 3 little 'angels' to help out in the community from the local church and through the schools. I gave my time to help gather and package over 3,000 items to donate to the local food bank.
This past week I had to retire my old car due to too much being needed to pass inspection , and with getting a new vehicle and its first snow/ice storm, my son puts large gashes/scratches across the hood while cleaning it, so now I not only have the car payments but now also have to get this fixed
I know this has nothing to do with dip, and no I am not going to turn to it, but can please someone offer some kind words, cause I feel like things are caving in on my life right now........
Kind words? How about knowing that YOU played a pivitol part in my quit this week? A few days ago you posted in your thread about how our involvement in Ktc is made stronger and becomes real if we are able to build real relationships. If possible by meeting other quitters. Shortly after, I was presented an opportunity to do just that. I struggled with the idea. But what you had just posted resonated in me, and I knew you were right. You laid the groundwork without even knowing it. So thank you for just being you and speaking the truth. Hope this week looks up for you bro.
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well 10 days til Christmas, and I am beginning to think I am really a scrooge and disliking this time of year. (where this was one of my favs)
let see, I have donated and equal amount of my weight loss since starting DDP Yoga in food (45 pounds). I have bought and donated clothing to help out 3 little 'angels' to help out in the community from the local church and through the schools. I gave my time to help gather and package over 3,000 items to donate to the local food bank.
This past week I had to retire my old car due to too much being needed to pass inspection , and with getting a new vehicle and its first snow/ice storm, my son puts large gashes/scratches across the hood while cleaning it, so now I not only have the car payments but now also have to get this fixed
I know this has nothing to do with dip, and no I am not going to turn to it, but can please someone offer some kind words, cause I feel like things are caving in on my life right now........
Kind words? How about knowing that YOU played a pivitol part in my quit this week? A few days ago you posted in your thread about how our involvement in Ktc is made stronger and becomes real if we are able to build real relationships. If possible by meeting other quitters. Shortly after, I was presented an opportunity to do just that. I struggled with the idea. But what you had just posted resonated in me, and I knew you were right. You laid the groundwork without even knowing it. So thank you for just being you and speaking the truth. Hope this week looks up for you bro.
Looks like Jake beat you to poofing the post, so I will reply too.
Unfortunately, this is how life works sometimes. The good news is that things have a way of turning around. It is very easy to concentrate on the negative, but you yourself have listed many reasons that you have a lot of good things going too. On top of that I found Jakes' words inspiring. You have helped so many people in this site including myself that you can certainly hold your head high.
Ride the ride man, things will get better!
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well 10 days til Christmas, and I am beginning to think I am really a scrooge and disliking this time of year. (where this was one of my favs)
let see, I have donated and equal amount of my weight loss since starting DDP Yoga in food (45 pounds). I have bought and donated clothing to help out 3 little 'angels' to help out in the community from the local church and through the schools. I gave my time to help gather and package over 3,000 items to donate to the local food bank.
This past week I had to retire my old car due to too much being needed to pass inspection , and with getting a new vehicle and its first snow/ice storm, my son puts large gashes/scratches across the hood while cleaning it, so now I not only have the car payments but now also have to get this fixed
I know this has nothing to do with dip, and no I am not going to turn to it, but can please someone offer some kind words, cause I feel like things are caving in on my life right now........
Kind words? How about knowing that YOU played a pivitol part in my quit this week? A few days ago you posted in your thread about how our involvement in Ktc is made stronger and becomes real if we are able to build real relationships. If possible by meeting other quitters. Shortly after, I was presented an opportunity to do just that. I struggled with the idea. But what you had just posted resonated in me, and I knew you were right. You laid the groundwork without even knowing it. So thank you for just being you and speaking the truth. Hope this week looks up for you bro.
Looks like Jake beat you to poofing the post, so I will reply too.
Unfortunately, this is how life works sometimes. The good news is that things have a way of turning around. It is very easy to concentrate on the negative, but you yourself have listed many reasons that you have a lot of good things going too. On top of that I found Jakes' words inspiring. You have helped so many people in this site including myself that you can certainly hold your head high.
Ride the ride man, things will get better!
Dear Bad Ass,
Every time I see a post with your name on it I can't wait to read it. You inspire me often and I think the avatar is so fitting to your work and style on this site. I agree with the other two before me commenting on this post, you hold your head up, you will go out and make your own luck, life can't keep your bad ass down, not you Sirderek! I am proud to say I quit with you! Erussell 230.
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well 10 days til Christmas, and I am beginning to think I am really a scrooge and disliking this time of year. (where this was one of my favs)
let see, I have donated and equal amount of my weight loss since starting DDP Yoga in food (45 pounds). I have bought and donated clothing to help out 3 little 'angels' to help out in the community from the local church and through the schools. I gave my time to help gather and package over 3,000 items to donate to the local food bank.
This past week I had to retire my old car due to too much being needed to pass inspection , and with getting a new vehicle and its first snow/ice storm, my son puts large gashes/scratches across the hood while cleaning it, so now I not only have the car payments but now also have to get this fixed
I know this has nothing to do with dip, and no I am not going to turn to it, but can please someone offer some kind words, cause I feel like things are caving in on my life right now........
Kind words? How about knowing that YOU played a pivitol part in my quit this week? A few days ago you posted in your thread about how our involvement in Ktc is made stronger and becomes real if we are able to build real relationships. If possible by meeting other quitters. Shortly after, I was presented an opportunity to do just that. I struggled with the idea. But what you had just posted resonated in me, and I knew you were right. You laid the groundwork without even knowing it. So thank you for just being you and speaking the truth. Hope this week looks up for you bro.
Looks like Jake beat you to poofing the post, so I will reply too.
Unfortunately, this is how life works sometimes. The good news is that things have a way of turning around. It is very easy to concentrate on the negative, but you yourself have listed many reasons that you have a lot of good things going too. On top of that I found Jakes' words inspiring. You have helped so many people in this site including myself that you can certainly hold your head high.
Ride the ride man, things will get better!
Dear Bad Ass,
Every time I see a post with your name on it I can't wait to read it. You inspire me often and I think the avatar is so fitting to your work and style on this site. I agree with the other two before me commenting on this post, you hold your head up, you will go out and make your own luck, life can't keep your bad ass down, not you Sirderek! I am proud to say I quit with you! Erussell 230.
SD, everything is going to be okay.
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well 10 days til Christmas, and I am beginning to think I am really a scrooge and disliking this time of year. (where this was one of my favs)
let see, I have donated and equal amount of my weight loss since starting DDP Yoga in food (45 pounds). I have bought and donated clothing to help out 3 little 'angels' to help out in the community from the local church and through the schools. I gave my time to help gather and package over 3,000 items to donate to the local food bank.
This past week I had to retire my old car due to too much being needed to pass inspection , and with getting a new vehicle and its first snow/ice storm, my son puts large gashes/scratches across the hood while cleaning it, so now I not only have the car payments but now also have to get this fixed
I know this has nothing to do with dip, and no I am not going to turn to it, but can please someone offer some kind words, cause I feel like things are caving in on my life right now........
Kind words? How about knowing that YOU played a pivitol part in my quit this week? A few days ago you posted in your thread about how our involvement in Ktc is made stronger and becomes real if we are able to build real relationships. If possible by meeting other quitters. Shortly after, I was presented an opportunity to do just that. I struggled with the idea. But what you had just posted resonated in me, and I knew you were right. You laid the groundwork without even knowing it. So thank you for just being you and speaking the truth. Hope this week looks up for you bro.
Looks like Jake beat you to poofing the post, so I will reply too.
Unfortunately, this is how life works sometimes. The good news is that things have a way of turning around. It is very easy to concentrate on the negative, but you yourself have listed many reasons that you have a lot of good things going too. On top of that I found Jakes' words inspiring. You have helped so many people in this site including myself that you can certainly hold your head high.
Ride the ride man, things will get better!
Dear Bad Ass,
Every time I see a post with your name on it I can't wait to read it. You inspire me often and I think the avatar is so fitting to your work and style on this site. I agree with the other two before me commenting on this post, you hold your head up, you will go out and make your own luck, life can't keep your bad ass down, not you Sirderek! I am proud to say I quit with you! Erussell 230.
SD, everything is going to be okay.
SD - My Dad once bought a brand new tractor (this sounds redneck already - bear with me). We hadn't been getting along so well for the last few years as I was in the I'm 16 and I know everything phase. The day he buys this $20k tractor, he offers to let me run it while we are bringing firewood out of the woods. On the first load, I raised the bucket as high as it would go and half a bucket full of wood we just cut toppled over the bucket of the front loader and onto the hood of the tractor. My old man blew his lid! We were already on shaky terms realationship wise and I'm sure that was one hell of a test for my dad. 20 years later, we still laugh about that and the dents are still in the hood of that tractor. This'll be a story you'll tell years down the road that's gonna seem a lot more comedic than it seems today. You're a bad ass quitter SD!
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well 10 days til Christmas, and I am beginning to think I am really a scrooge and disliking this time of year. (where this was one of my favs)
let see, I have donated and equal amount of my weight loss since starting DDP Yoga in food (45 pounds). I have bought and donated clothing to help out 3 little 'angels' to help out in the community from the local church and through the schools. I gave my time to help gather and package over 3,000 items to donate to the local food bank.
This past week I had to retire my old car due to too much being needed to pass inspection , and with getting a new vehicle and its first snow/ice storm, my son puts large gashes/scratches across the hood while cleaning it, so now I not only have the car payments but now also have to get this fixed
I know this has nothing to do with dip, and no I am not going to turn to it, but can please someone offer some kind words, cause I feel like things are caving in on my life right now........
Kind words? How about knowing that YOU played a pivitol part in my quit this week? A few days ago you posted in your thread about how our involvement in Ktc is made stronger and becomes real if we are able to build real relationships. If possible by meeting other quitters. Shortly after, I was presented an opportunity to do just that. I struggled with the idea. But what you had just posted resonated in me, and I knew you were right. You laid the groundwork without even knowing it. So thank you for just being you and speaking the truth. Hope this week looks up for you bro.
Looks like Jake beat you to poofing the post, so I will reply too.
Unfortunately, this is how life works sometimes. The good news is that things have a way of turning around. It is very easy to concentrate on the negative, but you yourself have listed many reasons that you have a lot of good things going too. On top of that I found Jakes' words inspiring. You have helped so many people in this site including myself that you can certainly hold your head high.
Ride the ride man, things will get better!
Dear Bad Ass,
Every time I see a post with your name on it I can't wait to read it. You inspire me often and I think the avatar is so fitting to your work and style on this site. I agree with the other two before me commenting on this post, you hold your head up, you will go out and make your own luck, life can't keep your bad ass down, not you Sirderek! I am proud to say I quit with you! Erussell 230.
SD, everything is going to be okay.
SD - My Dad once bought a brand new tractor (this sounds redneck already - bear with me). We hadn't been getting along so well for the last few years as I was in the I'm 16 and I know everything phase. The day he buys this $20k tractor, he offers to let me run it while we are bringing firewood out of the woods. On the first load, I raised the bucket as high as it would go and half a bucket full of wood we just cut toppled over the bucket of the front loader and onto the hood of the tractor. My old man blew his lid! We were already on shaky terms realationship wise and I'm sure that was one hell of a test for my dad. 20 years later, we still laugh about that and the dents are still in the hood of that tractor. This'll be a story you'll tell years down the road that's gonna seem a lot more comedic than it seems today. You're a bad ass quitter SD!
SD,
I am not going to polish that shiny suit of armor for you but I do want to talk about a few things you missed in your list. You volunteer your time to help Boy Scouts (lord knows how many lives you have touched in that alone). You also recently ran in a 5K and finished it. You lost a great amount of weight. You have and continue to aid in my quit.
You sir are a Bad Ass quitter as Eddie pointed out, but outside of that you are a great man. You my friend are way more than your post indicates. You are a man of honor, integrity and passion. The holidays can be hard for anyone, Now let's make a big batch of lemonade with all the lemons you got in that bucket!
Merry Quitsmas!
Pinched
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I read a post today that I cannot put any reply in words that would make any sense of a situation other than my thoughts and prayers are there for this person and family.
And I do believe that there are Angels Among Us (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_4Xfj2LRSA) and hope they continue to watch over us at this time of year.
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Thanks all for the words below,
now if Clarence would be able to show me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlYcT6DmJY) as I need it as did this yesterday again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVTYCn8WQv0)
think I am just going to curl up under my armor for a few more days, as it has crossed my mind a time or two of why not go back to poisoning myself....but am not there yet....
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Thanks all for the words below,
now if Clarence would be able to show me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlYcT6DmJY) as I need it as did this yesterday again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVTYCn8WQv0)
think I am just going to curl up under my armor for a few more days, as it has crossed my mind a time or two of why not go back to poisoning myself....but am not there yet....
Why not?
1 you already posted roll
2 you have proven you don't need that little weed
3 you want to watch your family grow old
4 you like having a lower jaw to kiss your wife with
5 you have a lot of accomplishments in 2013, don't kill that trend
6 your teeth are whiter now
7 your breath does not smell like a litter box
8 you at not hiding an addiction
9 you continue to save money
10 you are a great part of KTC
11 you don't want to face the suck again
12 you deserve to stay quit for another Christmas
Now move along, you got this, as this too will pass. You do not need the weed!
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Thanks all for the words below,
now if Clarence would be able to show me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlYcT6DmJY) as I need it as did this yesterday again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVTYCn8WQv0)
think I am just going to curl up under my armor for a few more days, as it has crossed my mind a time or two of why not go back to poisoning myself....but am not there yet....
Yet??? You better not get "there".
Hopefully while you are under your armor, you pull your fucking head out of your ass.
You're just gonna throw all the hard work and struggles you went through down the drain? You think if you go back to the can your life will be BETTER???
You want to go through all this AGAIN, or are you just gonna turn your back on all of us, walk away, and return to a life where banging the can is priority #1.
You're a bad ass quitter who has inspired many on this site. You have much to be proud of and are an example for many of the young guys. Don't fuck it up by giving into thougts of the posion making you feel better.
It won't. And you know that. If you didn't know that, you would not be here today.
You are better than this, and I know you will not get "there".
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Thanks all for the words below,
now if Clarence would be able to show me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlYcT6DmJY) as I need it as did this yesterday again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVTYCn8WQv0)
think I am just going to curl up under my armor for a few more days, as it has crossed my mind a time or two of why not go back to poisoning myself....but am not there yet....
Yet??? You better not get "there".
Hopefully while you are under your armor, you pull your fucking head out of your ass.
You're just gonna throw all the hard work and struggles you went through down the drain? You think if you go back to the can your life will be BETTER???
You want to go through all this AGAIN, or are you just gonna turn your back on all of us, walk away, and return to a life where banging the can is priority #1.
You're a bad ass quitter who has inspired many on this site. You have much to be proud of and are an example for many of the young guys. Don't fuck it up by giving into thougts of the posion making you feel better.
It won't. And you know that. If you didn't know that, you would not be here today.
You are better than this, and I know you will not get "there".
Thanks Diesel, and thanks Pinched.
Well had a total meltdown yesterday in front of the wife and older son. I guess I had hit the rock bottom and just let it out for 15-20 minutes
And you know I do feel a lot better now. This site with the encouragement not only for quitting but also in the other aspects of life really touches me. Thank you for the brotherhood that has been extended to me.
I will continue to pay it forward, I will continue to make friends and family here.
And Merry Christmas to everyone, and as Tiny Tim proclaimed "God bless us, every one".
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Thanks all for the words below,
now if Clarence would be able to show me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlYcT6DmJY) as I need it as did this yesterday again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVTYCn8WQv0)
think I am just going to curl up under my armor for a few more days, as it has crossed my mind a time or two of why not go back to poisoning myself....but am not there yet....
Yet??? You better not get "there".
Hopefully while you are under your armor, you pull your fucking head out of your ass.
You're just gonna throw all the hard work and struggles you went through down the drain? You think if you go back to the can your life will be BETTER???
You want to go through all this AGAIN, or are you just gonna turn your back on all of us, walk away, and return to a life where banging the can is priority #1.
You're a bad ass quitter who has inspired many on this site. You have much to be proud of and are an example for many of the young guys. Don't fuck it up by giving into thougts of the posion making you feel better.
It won't. And you know that. If you didn't know that, you would not be here today.
You are better than this, and I know you will not get "there".
Thanks Diesel, and thanks Pinched.
Well had a total meltdown yesterday in front of the wife and older son. I guess I had hit the rock bottom and just let it out for 15-20 minutes
And you know I do feel a lot better now. This site with the encouragement not only for quitting but also in the other aspects of life really touches me. Thank you for the brotherhood that has been extended to me.
I will continue to pay it forward, I will continue to make friends and family here.
And Merry Christmas to everyone, and as Tiny Tim proclaimed "God bless us, every one".
Atta boy!!!
Tis the season for meltdowns!!!! Just had one with the wife who wants to adopt an epileptic pug dog with a lazy eye. $400??!!! Fucking nuts
As I suspected you know your shit and that nic solves nothing. Just adds to the problem.
Merry Christmas to you and your family!!!
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Derek,
Thanks for being a friend, you have helped my life and gave me inspiration in more ways than you can imagine. When ever I have a bad day or am feeling down I know if I hang out in chat you will show up and in the inconsistent world of our quits you are the one thing I can count on being there everytime. I wish you and your family a wonderful holiday and thank you for everything you have done for me in the past 288 days I look for to celebrating many milestones in my quit with you help. God Bless.
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Thanks all for the words below,
now if Clarence would be able to show me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlYcT6DmJY) as I need it as did this yesterday again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVTYCn8WQv0)
think I am just going to curl up under my armor for a few more days, as it has crossed my mind a time or two of why not go back to poisoning myself....but am not there yet....
Yet??? You better not get "there".
Hopefully while you are under your armor, you pull your fucking head out of your ass.
You're just gonna throw all the hard work and struggles you went through down the drain? You think if you go back to the can your life will be BETTER???
You want to go through all this AGAIN, or are you just gonna turn your back on all of us, walk away, and return to a life where banging the can is priority #1.
You're a bad ass quitter who has inspired many on this site. You have much to be proud of and are an example for many of the young guys. Don't fuck it up by giving into thougts of the posion making you feel better.
It won't. And you know that. If you didn't know that, you would not be here today.
You are better than this, and I know you will not get "there".
Thanks Diesel, and thanks Pinched.
Well had a total meltdown yesterday in front of the wife and older son. I guess I had hit the rock bottom and just let it out for 15-20 minutes
And you know I do feel a lot better now. This site with the encouragement not only for quitting but also in the other aspects of life really touches me. Thank you for the brotherhood that has been extended to me.
I will continue to pay it forward, I will continue to make friends and family here.
And Merry Christmas to everyone, and as Tiny Tim proclaimed "God bless us, every one".
Atta boy!!!
Tis the season for meltdowns!!!! Just had one with the wife who wants to adopt an epileptic pug dog with a lazy eye. $400??!!! Fucking nuts
As I suspected you know your shit and that nic solves nothing. Just adds to the problem.
Merry Christmas to you and your family!!!
Yep, we've all been there! It's when you have the meltdown and keep it locked up inside that no one can offer a hand. Throwing in a dip, jumping off the bridge or whatever your messed up mind conceive that's not the answer. Just like all the other times it will pass. Under your armor is a good place.
Side note for diesel; look on the bright side the mutt has both nuts!Fucking nuts
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
so fitting again, don't you think.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
so fitting again, don't you think.
Damn Sir Derek! As always inspirational and topical. Especially in relation to current happeningss in our March class. You totally get what honour and commitment embody. We all are stronger quitters because of you. You have shown me how to make an apprentice suit of armour for myself. Thanks!
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
so fitting again, don't you think.
Damn Sir Derek! As always inspirational and topical. Especially in relation to current happeningss in our March class. You totally get what honour and commitment embody. We all are stronger quitters because of you. You have shown me how to make an apprentice suit of armour for myself. Thanks!
Well said. Very timely.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
so fitting again, don't you think.
Damn Sir Derek! As always inspirational and topical. Especially in relation to current happeningss in our March class. You totally get what honour and commitment embody. We all are stronger quitters because of you. You have shown me how to make an apprentice suit of armour for myself. Thanks!
Well said. Very timely.
Spoken like a true scout!
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
so fitting again, don't you think.
Damn Sir Derek! As always inspirational and topical. Especially in relation to current happeningss in our March class. You totally get what honour and commitment embody. We all are stronger quitters because of you. You have shown me how to make an apprentice suit of armour for myself. Thanks!
Well said. Very timely.
Spoken like a true scout!
Never gets old.
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What is your word worth?
Well been a few weeks since I posted last and with all the happenings in my life and the drama on the site I had to put a few thoughts on this down.
We start on the site here hopefully just continuing something that we have in the basis of ourselves, and that is when we give our word, we should uphold it. Now we all have done it in the past with our addiction where we went against this fiber and either did not try as hard as we should have to quit, or we ninjaÂ’d around. Well that is the past.
I can remember one of my first days of college where we had to sign an Honor Code Pledge. Guess what this was? A promise made with your word that you would not cheat. And what did it entail? It meant to keep your word and not cheat. The results if you did ranged from failure to expulsion.
Then I came across this site, and found that one of the basic pillars was to give that word each day to remain quit. I felt like I needed that as it would get me back to the person I once was where I would make a pledge and keep it. As a reminder to myself, I selected a name and an avatar that would represent the qualities that I wanted to follow to the heart. And in the subsequent 327 days, I have kept my word each and every day, but better yet I have honored that word.
So what is my word worth? WellÂ…
• I could tally it with the over $1,000 that I have saved, but it is so much more than that.
• I could say that by quitting my blood pressure is now very close to the normal range for a person of my age (135/85), instead of being through the roof high (160/100), but it is so much more than that.
• I could say how much time wise it has saved me from the points of keeping separate from my loved ones as I dipped or had to run out to the store, but again it is so much more
All of these and there are so much more I could list, but for me, the biggest worth is above and beyond all of that. It is the fact that I did make those promises with my word each day, and I HONORED IT EACH AND EVERY DAY.
And to this I am a much better person inside that I was at this time last year.
I will sum the worth up with one wordÂ…..priceless.
so fitting again, don't you think.
Damn Sir Derek! As always inspirational and topical. Especially in relation to current happeningss in our March class. You totally get what honour and commitment embody. We all are stronger quitters because of you. You have shown me how to make an apprentice suit of armour for myself. Thanks!
Well said. Very timely.
Spoken like a true scout!
Never gets old.
a man takes 2 things to the grave, his ass his word.. quit with you everyday..
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Day 576
ok here is a different kind of dip dream.
So vivid as standing in line at the checkout, not sure which store but looking around behind the counter. Seeing the cigarettes and all. Looking through noticing the dip....
seeing the cope and saying..."well the price has gone up"
and looking further seeing smokey mountain, jakes and others, saying "good to see they have the alternatives"
coming back to the crap,, seeing one at an extra low price, saying "wow now that I could go for....."
Ending up paying for the stuff I was getting (groceries), and getting to the car. Looking at myself in the rearview mirror " WTF was that. Why the hell was I comparison shopping for something I never had the intention of buying.".
man just another screwed up dream. but only a dream
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Day 576
ok here is a different kind of dip dream.
So vivid as standing in line at the checkout, not sure which store but looking around behind the counter. Seeing the cigarettes and all. Looking through noticing the dip....
seeing the cope and saying..."well the price has gone up"
and looking further seeing smokey mountain, jakes and others, saying "good to see they have the alternatives"
coming back to the crap,, seeing one at an extra low price, saying "wow now that I could go for....."
Ending up paying for the stuff I was getting (groceries), and getting to the car. Looking at myself in the rearview mirror " WTF was that. Why the hell was I comparison shopping for something I never had the intention of buying.".
man just another screwed up dream. but only a dream
It never fails the nic bitch hits us at our most vulnerable .... when we are sleeping!!!
I have had more dip dreams the last month than I have for the last 2 years!!!
For me the best way to deal with them has been keeping everything in perspective and really knowing I AM QUIT!!!!
I believe I will most likely have to continue to deal with these stinking dip dreams for many years to come, I dipped for 30 years and 2 years of quit wont take away the memories from when I had been killing myself.
I can only rely on the support from the group and the resolve and determination forged in the funk that we all have suffered thru!
Stay strong brother!
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Day 585 -
Recollecting another Get Together....
Well trying to gather thoughts about a past weekend and one word is at the top of the list...Brotherhood.
Yes that fits as families from all around (Texas, New York, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Florida) gathered in the historic city of Savannah. Yes a 12 hour drive. And Yes it was so worth it.
Seeing again some who I have met at the PA meets, and meeting new quitters and their families just adds that additional support, that additional 'thing' to solidify my quit more and more. For those who have not met anyone else from the site, I encourage you to do so. Becoming a friend makes it that much harder to go back to being a slave. If you see any of the pictures, you can tell that the fun that is had is off the charts. And what I will call the 'get together at the beach' with its low country boil and oysters....well makes it dang tasty.
Now this of course is one of the tops of the quitter meetings (PA being another the 'get together in the woods'), but even to sit and talk for 3 hours over appetizers is still so worth it.
So the festivities, the food, the fun....it is all right there for you. And as I mentioned earlier in my thread....You came into the neighborhood. Be that friend and more to where you not only watch over or request help from others, but go ahead and meet those 'behind the keyboard'. You will not be disappointed.
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Different topic
ok just to get it off my chest....
Just found out from our close friends, that the one young man who helped us out a year and a half ago when he picked us up 2 hours from home....see below as I was a week into my quit and car broke down...
Well this young man, Eagle Scout...has started dipping.....
dammit.... 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
Well I forwarded the Sean Marsee link and the link to the .org page to his mother on FB to pass along....
Armor is on and ready ladies and gents...
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Different topic
ok just to get it off my chest....
Just found out from our close friends, that the one young man who helped us out a year and a half ago when he picked us up 2 hours from home....see below as I was a week into my quit and car broke down...
Well this young man, Eagle Scout...has started dipping.....
dammit.... 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
Well I forwarded the Sean Marsee link and the link to the .org page to his mother on FB to pass along....
Armor is on and ready ladies and gents...
That's a total bummer Derek. But....I think its great you are in his life enough to try and steer him back onto the right path. Hopefully Seans story will wake him up. He's not stupid if he got his Eagle!
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
Holy +1's Batman! ;Ironman:
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
Holy +1's Batman! ;Ironman:
You the man Sir D!!! Congrats
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
Holy +1's Batman! ;Ironman:
You the man Sir D!!! Congrats
Grats on 6th Floor
Beating CS to it
'BanDog'
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
Holy +1's Batman! ;Ironman:
You the man Sir D!!! Congrats
Grats on 6th Floor
Beating CS to it
'BanDog'
Great job sir Derek!! 600!! 'worship'
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
Holy +1's Batman! ;Ironman:
You the man Sir D!!! Congrats
Grats on 6th Floor
Beating CS to it
'BanDog'
Great job sir Derek!! 600!! 'worship'
Bad ass! 'Cheers'
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
Holy +1's Batman! ;Ironman:
You the man Sir D!!! Congrats
Grats on 6th Floor
Beating CS to it
'BanDog'
Great job sir Derek!! 600!! 'worship'
Double fat chicks...six bills.
Nice work!!!
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excellent job on the big 6
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
Holy +1's Batman! ;Ironman:
You the man Sir D!!! Congrats
Grats on 6th Floor
Beating CS to it
'BanDog'
Great job sir Derek!! 600!! 'worship'
Double fat chicks...six bills.
Nice work!!!
Belated 'BanDog'
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600. A very nice number SD! :D
NICE! Congrats to a regal leader here. Keep doing what you do, it helps so many!
:wub: As a descendant of Welsh Patriarch and an Irish Matriarch....I love castles and knights sworn to protect the land.
I love Sir Derek. Way to serve with loyalty to the quit!
Awesome SD, proud to quit with you everyday!
Congrats to my bro-in-00. 'party'
Beautiful SirD! Congrats!
Holy +1's Batman! ;Ironman:
You the man Sir D!!! Congrats
Grats on 6th Floor
Beating CS to it
'BanDog'
Great job sir Derek!! 600!! 'worship'
Double fat chicks...six bills.
Nice work!!!
Belated 'BanDog'
Congrats and thanks for all you do here! 'Cheers'
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A.Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B.Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C.Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A.Log online and read the roll post for the day
B.Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C.Post a note into my intro thread
D.Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E.Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 MadmenÂ….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, Sporticus, Bobertd, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F.Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G.Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H.Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I.Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J.Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 MadmenÂ….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 Madmen….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
Great quit plan and congrats on 600 sirderek!
Quit on good sir.
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 Madmen….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
Great quit plan and congrats on 600 sirderek!
May want to make one addition which has been noted to fellow quitters... For some they go straight to it, but as a last ditch effort before you proceed to J -- slam your nuts in a drawer. If crave still exists... Repeat until it is gone. Seems to be a pretty solid crave killer.
Quit on good sir.
Congrats on 600!!!
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 Madmen….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
Great quit plan and congrats on 600 sirderek!
May want to make one addition which has been noted to fellow quitters... For some they go straight to it, but as a last ditch effort before you proceed to J -- slam your nuts in a drawer. If crave still exists... Repeat until it is gone. Seems to be a pretty solid crave killer.
Quit on good sir.
Congrats on 600!!!
Congrats bro. And a true quitter could not get past the first few steps in your plan before being helped to see the light. That's why you are still here. You never let yourself get to the last few steps.
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 Madmen….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
Great quit plan and congrats on 600 sirderek!
May want to make one addition which has been noted to fellow quitters... For some they go straight to it, but as a last ditch effort before you proceed to J -- slam your nuts in a drawer. If crave still exists... Repeat until it is gone. Seems to be a pretty solid crave killer.
Quit on good sir.
Congrats on 600!!!
Congrats bro. And a true quitter could not get past the first few steps in your plan before being helped to see the light. That's why you are still here. You never let yourself get to the last few steps.
Always the thinker in our group Derek, you continue to give of yourself to the KTC community and help new and old quitters alike. Congrats again on the 6th floor, my brother in quit! Have a great weekend!
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 Madmen….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
Great quit plan and congrats on 600 sirderek!
May want to make one addition which has been noted to fellow quitters... For some they go straight to it, but as a last ditch effort before you proceed to J -- slam your nuts in a drawer. If crave still exists... Repeat until it is gone. Seems to be a pretty solid crave killer.
Quit on good sir.
Congrats on 600!!!
Congrats bro. And a true quitter could not get past the first few steps in your plan before being helped to see the light. That's why you are still here. You never let yourself get to the last few steps.
Always the thinker in our group Derek, you continue to give of yourself to the KTC community and help new and old quitters alike. Congrats again on the 6th floor, my brother in quit! Have a great weekend!
SD is a damn fine Quitter and a Leader as well. 601 days today for him, and I know he will be in chat today waiting for that newbie to stroll in there looking for direction ( oh and he will be waiting for me to show up too......yeah we got a thing :wub: ))))He speaks the truth and obviously knows how to quit. Great job on 601 today. QLF you are leading by example!
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 Madmen….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
Great quit plan and congrats on 600 sirderek!
May want to make one addition which has been noted to fellow quitters... For some they go straight to it, but as a last ditch effort before you proceed to J -- slam your nuts in a drawer. If crave still exists... Repeat until it is gone. Seems to be a pretty solid crave killer.
Quit on good sir.
Congrats on 600!!!
Congrats bro. And a true quitter could not get past the first few steps in your plan before being helped to see the light. That's why you are still here. You never let yourself get to the last few steps.
Always the thinker in our group Derek, you continue to give of yourself to the KTC community and help new and old quitters alike. Congrats again on the 6th floor, my brother in quit! Have a great weekend!
SD is a damn fine Quitter and a Leader as well. 601 days today for him, and I know he will be in chat today waiting for that newbie to stroll in there looking for direction ( oh and he will be waiting for me to show up too......yeah we got a thing :wub: ))))He speaks the truth and obviously knows how to quit. Great job on 601 today. QLF you are leading by example!
Great job derek. That is some mighty fine quitting.
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 Madmen….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
Great quit plan and congrats on 600 sirderek!
May want to make one addition which has been noted to fellow quitters... For some they go straight to it, but as a last ditch effort before you proceed to J -- slam your nuts in a drawer. If crave still exists... Repeat until it is gone. Seems to be a pretty solid crave killer.
Quit on good sir.
Congrats on 600!!!
Congrats bro. And a true quitter could not get past the first few steps in your plan before being helped to see the light. That's why you are still here. You never let yourself get to the last few steps.
Always the thinker in our group Derek, you continue to give of yourself to the KTC community and help new and old quitters alike. Congrats again on the 6th floor, my brother in quit! Have a great weekend!
SD is a damn fine Quitter and a Leader as well. 601 days today for him, and I know he will be in chat today waiting for that newbie to stroll in there looking for direction ( oh and he will be waiting for me to show up too......yeah we got a thing :wub: ))))He speaks the truth and obviously knows how to quit. Great job on 601 today. QLF you are leading by example!
Great job derek. That is some mighty fine quitting.
Thanks for all you have done to help my quit gain strength and accountability.
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Day 600
Well a day that has been two fold.
For one, the great celebration for myself getting this far, and for all of the accolades from my family here that touches me deep. I thank you.
For two, all of the happenings on this site in the past week, which just gets me to scratch my head. How can those who have gone through this program think they can just disregard the proven success that is seen on a daily basis here.
It is to this point that I hope the following can help as if used properly it will help those that are newly quit, and those who are returning to also be newly quit (again). And that is one thing that we mention whether it be for the first weekend, just developing one or for those in re-run the dreaded ‘3rd question’. For this education we set forth to ask; What will you do differently this time?
I will say I did not have anything written in stone for over my first 80 days….And if I dare say it did make my quit tougher for that initial period. I was lucky and made it through, but I realized that for my own education I needed to write down my plan for when the worst of times was hitting me. So I wanted to share my plan as it stands today so that you all can see what goes into it when we ask “what is yours, or what do you plan to do differently’
Quit Plan
1 – Wake up and when I am conscious enough do the following:
A. Look in the mirror and say aloud that “I am quit today”.
B. Look at a picture of my wife and sons and utter the same words
C. Log on line and post roll in my group.
there at this point I have given my word for the day to myself, my family and my KTC brothers/sisters
2 – If and when that urge hits that seems to be greater than I can handle I:
A. Log online and read the roll post for the day
B. Read through my introduction thread looking at the names of those who have helped me
C. Post a note into my intro thread
D. Jump into the live chat room
ok hope by now that I have shaken the feeling but if not will continue
E. Call 3 of my brothers/sisters from the Oct12 Madmen….2mch2lv4, Mich 34, Eric71, JAGINVEST, and SUDS (must talk live to 3 of these), more if necessary. After chatting need their permission.
these are those who I stood side by side with from the beginning
F. Call 3 other brother/sisters from who I have met in person again asking for permission
these are those who I have looked in the eye, have shook hands and embraced
G. Call 3 additional brothers/sisters from the rest of my KTC family again as before asking for permission.
these are those who have helped in the chat room or personal messages or texts
H. Print out and sign the Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I. Tell my wife what I have done and am about to do.
J. Drive to storeÂ…..
Well I hope that by laying this out there that quitters can see not only how serious I have taken my quit, but hope they can apply this to their own. I am certain if I had written this in my first month I would have been much better off.
One last thing that I believe I have done, and that is not just use Quitting as a verb, but use it as a noun, as for me Quitting is a Lifestyle.
Nice quit plan there SD. Anyone would be a fool to not copy that plan, change a few names, but other than that follow it to the letter.
I can't help but think of the favorite crave killer in chat, kinda surprised you left it out. Open drawer, drop trou, slam nuts in drawer.
Maybe you won't need it but always leave room in your plan for improvement!
Proud to quit with you!
Great quit plan and congrats on 600 sirderek!
May want to make one addition which has been noted to fellow quitters... For some they go straight to it, but as a last ditch effort before you proceed to J -- slam your nuts in a drawer. If crave still exists... Repeat until it is gone. Seems to be a pretty solid crave killer.
Quit on good sir.
Congrats on 600!!!
Congrats bro. And a true quitter could not get past the first few steps in your plan before being helped to see the light. That's why you are still here. You never let yourself get to the last few steps.
Always the thinker in our group Derek, you continue to give of yourself to the KTC community and help new and old quitters alike. Congrats again on the 6th floor, my brother in quit! Have a great weekend!
SD is a damn fine Quitter and a Leader as well. 601 days today for him, and I know he will be in chat today waiting for that newbie to stroll in there looking for direction ( oh and he will be waiting for me to show up too......yeah we got a thing :wub: ))))He speaks the truth and obviously knows how to quit. Great job on 601 today. QLF you are leading by example!
Great job derek. That is some mighty fine quitting.
Thanks for all you have done to help my quit gain strength and accountability.
You Sir are a bad ass!
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Happy Birthday, SD! 'Birthday'
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Day 617 Food for thought
Ever wonder why on the 100 Day HOF coin there are the words Accountability, Brotherhood and Success.
Well separately each of these has their definition. But if you take note to those of us who are around and stay around, we have turned these 3 words into an equation.
Accountability + Brotherhood = Success
just think about it and what you have seen so far in your time here.
We tell you to post every day (a form of accountability), we say to look out for one another (again accountability), we say get involved (brotherhood), not only to exchange numbers but to use them (brotherhood). We do this because we want to see you succeed.
Now look at those who cave. Common threads...they drift away from site (loss of accountability), they lose contact with the group (loss of brotherhood), they have always post and 'gone' (never built a brotherhood), they had a low posting percentage (little accountability).
So we come here to Succeed. Well I give you that equation above and to remember you need Both parts. The facts show the truth.
I know what I will continue to do, what is your path.
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Day 617 Food for thought
Ever wonder why on the 100 Day HOF coin there are the words Accountability, Brotherhood and Success.
Well separately each of these has their definition. But if you take note to those of us who are around and stay around, we have turned these 3 words into an equation.
Accountability + Brotherhood = Success
just think about it and what you have seen so far in your time here.
We tell you to post every day (a form of accountability), we say to look out for one another (again accountability), we say get involved (brotherhood), not only to exchange numbers but to use them (brotherhood). We do this because we want to see you succeed.
Now look at those who cave. Common threads...they drift away from site (loss of accountability), they lose contact with the group (loss of brotherhood), they have always post and 'gone' (never built a brotherhood), they had a low posting percentage (little accountability).
So we come here to Succeed. Well I give you that equation above and to remember you need Both parts. The facts show the truth.
I know what I will continue to do, what is your path.
x2 NICE POST SIR DEREK
More than likely you will not make it on your own or else you would have never showed up here. It takes work to force a change...it doesn't just happen. I am a different person than I was 329 days ago when I had my head in the toilet only to turn and give the other end its chance followed up with body aches muscle cramps... without KTC by now I would have probably tried all that shit again just to see if I could do it (FAIL) on my own. WE only quit once!!!
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Day 617 Food for thought
Ever wonder why on the 100 Day HOF coin there are the words Accountability, Brotherhood and Success.
Well separately each of these has their definition. But if you take note to those of us who are around and stay around, we have turned these 3 words into an equation.
Accountability + Brotherhood = Success
just think about it and what you have seen so far in your time here.
We tell you to post every day (a form of accountability), we say to look out for one another (again accountability), we say get involved (brotherhood), not only to exchange numbers but to use them (brotherhood). We do this because we want to see you succeed.
Now look at those who cave. Common threads...they drift away from site (loss of accountability), they lose contact with the group (loss of brotherhood), they have always post and 'gone' (never built a brotherhood), they had a low posting percentage (little accountability).
So we come here to Succeed. Well I give you that equation above and to remember you need Both parts. The facts show the truth.
I know what I will continue to do, what is your path.
x2 NICE POST SIR DEREK
More than likely you will not make it on your own or else you would have never showed up here. It takes work to force a change...it doesn't just happen. I am a different person than I was 329 days ago when I had my head in the toilet only to turn and give the other end its chance followed up with body aches muscle cramps... without KTC by now I would have probably tried all that shit again just to see if I could do it (FAIL) on my own. WE only quit once!!!
Amen SirD
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Day 617 Food for thought
Ever wonder why on the 100 Day HOF coin there are the words Accountability, Brotherhood and Success.
Well separately each of these has their definition. But if you take note to those of us who are around and stay around, we have turned these 3 words into an equation.
Accountability + Brotherhood = Success
just think about it and what you have seen so far in your time here.
We tell you to post every day (a form of accountability), we say to look out for one another (again accountability), we say get involved (brotherhood), not only to exchange numbers but to use them (brotherhood). We do this because we want to see you succeed.
Now look at those who cave. Common threads...they drift away from site (loss of accountability), they lose contact with the group (loss of brotherhood), they have always post and 'gone' (never built a brotherhood), they had a low posting percentage (little accountability).
So we come here to Succeed. Well I give you that equation above and to remember you need Both parts. The facts show the truth.
I know what I will continue to do, what is your path.
x2 NICE POST SIR DEREK
More than likely you will not make it on your own or else you would have never showed up here. It takes work to force a change...it doesn't just happen. I am a different person than I was 329 days ago when I had my head in the toilet only to turn and give the other end its chance followed up with body aches muscle cramps... without KTC by now I would have probably tried all that shit again just to see if I could do it (FAIL) on my own. WE only quit once!!!
Amen SirD
good post Derek. Makes perfect sense.
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Day 617 Food for thought
Ever wonder why on the 100 Day HOF coin there are the words Accountability, Brotherhood and Success.
Well separately each of these has their definition. But if you take note to those of us who are around and stay around, we have turned these 3 words into an equation.
Accountability + Brotherhood = Success
just think about it and what you have seen so far in your time here.
We tell you to post every day (a form of accountability), we say to look out for one another (again accountability), we say get involved (brotherhood), not only to exchange numbers but to use them (brotherhood). We do this because we want to see you succeed.
Now look at those who cave. Common threads...they drift away from site (loss of accountability), they lose contact with the group (loss of brotherhood), they have always post and 'gone' (never built a brotherhood), they had a low posting percentage (little accountability).
So we come here to Succeed. Well I give you that equation above and to remember you need Both parts. The facts show the truth.
I know what I will continue to do, what is your path.
x2 NICE POST SIR DEREK
More than likely you will not make it on your own or else you would have never showed up here. It takes work to force a change...it doesn't just happen. I am a different person than I was 329 days ago when I had my head in the toilet only to turn and give the other end its chance followed up with body aches muscle cramps... without KTC by now I would have probably tried all that shit again just to see if I could do it (FAIL) on my own. WE only quit once!!!
Amen SirD
good post Derek. Makes perfect sense.
That's the first math equation I have ever liked! Thanks Derek!
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Day 617 Food for thought
Ever wonder why on the 100 Day HOF coin there are the words Accountability, Brotherhood and Success.
Well separately each of these has their definition. But if you take note to those of us who are around and stay around, we have turned these 3 words into an equation.
Accountability + Brotherhood = Success
just think about it and what you have seen so far in your time here.
We tell you to post every day (a form of accountability), we say to look out for one another (again accountability), we say get involved (brotherhood), not only to exchange numbers but to use them (brotherhood). We do this because we want to see you succeed.
Now look at those who cave. Common threads...they drift away from site (loss of accountability), they lose contact with the group (loss of brotherhood), they have always post and 'gone' (never built a brotherhood), they had a low posting percentage (little accountability).
So we come here to Succeed. Well I give you that equation above and to remember you need Both parts. The facts show the truth.
I know what I will continue to do, what is your path.
x2 NICE POST SIR DEREK
More than likely you will not make it on your own or else you would have never showed up here. It takes work to force a change...it doesn't just happen. I am a different person than I was 329 days ago when I had my head in the toilet only to turn and give the other end its chance followed up with body aches muscle cramps... without KTC by now I would have probably tried all that shit again just to see if I could do it (FAIL) on my own. WE only quit once!!!
Amen SirD
good post Derek. Makes perfect sense.
That's the first math equation I have ever liked! Thanks Derek!
As always Derek, gooood stuff brotha. Keep it up man. I am walking right behind man and your example has helped me along the way many many times.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
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SirDerek, I liked your BigNasty post. It stated what needed to be stated, and that is all that can be done. I have PM'ed him my number several days ago, and have offered to post roll for him on the weekends if he hits me up. Thank you for all you do here at the KTC.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
I quit with SD any day that ends with a "y"
One serious quitter and mentor.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
I quit with SD any day that ends with a "y"
One serious quitter and mentor.
Hey SD i was struck by your BN post too. Thanks. That was rich.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
I quit with SD any day that ends with a "y"
One serious quitter and mentor.
Hey SD i was struck by your BN post too. Thanks. That was rich.
Derek = true friend :wub:
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SirD,
Congrats on 700, thanks for all you do, and all that you have done for me.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
I quit with SD any day that ends with a "y"
One serious quitter and mentor.
Hey SD i was struck by your BN post too. Thanks. That was rich.
Derek = true friend :wub:
D, you are a quitter that exemplifies grace under pressure. Thanks for all your inspiration and positivity!
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
I quit with SD any day that ends with a "y"
One serious quitter and mentor.
Hey SD i was struck by your BN post too. Thanks. That was rich.
Derek = true friend :wub:
D, you are a quitter that exemplifies grace under pressure. Thanks for all your inspiration and positivity!
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
I quit with SD any day that ends with a "y"
One serious quitter and mentor.
Hey SD i was struck by your BN post too. Thanks. That was rich.
Derek = true friend :wub:
D, you are a quitter that exemplifies grace under pressure. Thanks for all your inspiration and positivity!
Thank you. You do more than you will likely ever realize for this site. Thank you so very much.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
I quit with SD any day that ends with a "y"
One serious quitter and mentor.
Hey SD i was struck by your BN post too. Thanks. That was rich.
Derek = true friend :wub:
D, you are a quitter that exemplifies grace under pressure. Thanks for all your inspiration and positivity!
Thank you. You do more than you will likely ever realize for this site. Thank you so very much.
Great job Derek. Keep doing what you do.
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There is obviously a reason that thou hast been knighted. And I with mine own two eyes hath witnessed it.
How anyone can be so compassionate, level-headed and nice to bignasty blows my mind. You sir should be in line for sainthood.
Ty Doc -
I think people can see how strong he seems to be, and in such a fight we can use someone like him on our side, but it is in his mind that he needs to be open to accepting the help. He needs to let go of the anger real or imagined and say to himself that yes the way it is here not only will help him with quitting nicotine but can help him with other areas in his life.
When I first joined I would never have thought that additional part was possible, but through the connections on the site here I have started an exercise program that has me in the best shape of my life, have taken a weekend trip to a new city and have met some of the best character people that I now consider family. I can also go almost anywhere in the USA and have an invite for a meal and/or drink, and that to me is beyond my wildest thoughts.
And I would not trade any of this for the world.
True inspiration. I am proud to follow in your footsteps, Mother Theresa.
I believe that Big Nasty feels that asking for help is a sign of weakness. Something that given his profession is a big no-no. Yes he is arrogant, conceited, and just simply, an ass but he is quit and that's what counts. I too wish he would just give up on the tough guy attitude and just get along and accept the advice offered.
I agree this site has done more for me than I ever imagined. I knew I had a dipping problem but since being on here I have taken a different look at other areas in my life as well. Trying to lose weight and slowing way down on the alcohol. These are two areas that definitely need work.
I was looking through your early intros SD and noticed you were involved in Scout leadership. I am an Assistant Cubmaster and feel the same way about the oath and how dip was not good representation of the scouting way of life.
Proud to be quit with you. Happy QLF Friday!!!!
I quit with SD any day that ends with a "y"
One serious quitter and mentor.
Hey SD i was struck by your BN post too. Thanks. That was rich.
Derek = true friend :wub:
D, you are a quitter that exemplifies grace under pressure. Thanks for all your inspiration and positivity!
Thank you. You do more than you will likely ever realize for this site. Thank you so very much.
Great job Derek. Keep doing what you do.
Too bad big nasty wiped his big nasty ass with that olive branch.
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Day 723 ....
Think too much dust has settled on this so going to shake it off. And must say just wow. Not rehashing anything as to what is happening in other places, just want to state and look forward on a few observations for myself.
Before KTC, I wasted time in my life (running our to get my next fix, finding ways to do so) and was a person who lied to myself (I would quit after X, or would stop when X happened). It was KTC that showed me that by coming here and making that pledge/promise each day, that not only was it helping me to take control of this addiction, but it led me to becoming a better person. I have also gained that time back in my daily life that I have put to use in exercising and spending it with my family, and that includes time in the chat room with my family here at KTC.
So when we look, this is definitely something not to dismiss.
Now there have been times, and you will hear, that periods are needed to take a deep breath, to live your life and 'post and go'. Hell just like in real life there are times we need the alone time from our spouse, from our kids. But it is that time where we need to use it to grow, to mature our quit to the next level. To find a little something to re-energize us. Sometimes it may be picking up on something similar with a newly quit person, or some drama that may occur. Because last I looked, families do generate drama within their walls. So when these things occur, it is normal and will happen. Those of us not involved need to learn from it. Those involved need to think deep down and also learn from it.
And again with these periods of time, they are not to be dismissed easily.
During one of the times that I was 'just posting roll', I found this gem for myself. Yes I am a true fan of the Medieval Knights, (that goes back to before college and is the reason for my handle) and this prayer that I found that was spoken before entering battle against an enemy, I can see using multiple times:
A Knight's Prayer
Almighty God, Eternal Father, Lord of Lords, have mercy upon me, a humble knight in Thy Divine Service. Oh Lord, I pray for Thy indulgence and blessings. Forget not Thine servant in his trials, nor his Order of Knighthood. I pray, that Thy Will be done in all things, both great and small.
Let me always be worthy of Thee, let me not forget Thee in good times nor bad. Armor me with the armor of Thy Righteousness, give me the sword of Truth that I shall confound Thine enemies and be unto Thee a true knight.
O Lord, in my hour of need, be with me. Let me never forget my sacred and holy vows unto Thee, that I should not be prey unto demons and devils nor the dark things of this world.
Let me always be a beacon unto those in distress, never allow me to forget my obligation unto the homeless nor the poor: let me serve Thee and Thine Eternal Throne all the days of my life. Let me always remember the obligations that I have taken upon me. Lord, if it is Thine Will, let me serve Thee forever!
If ever, oh Lord, I turn from Thee and this Order, let my name forever be cursed, may my spurs be broken and my body given unto demons to dwell with them forever in that Lake of Fire which Thou hast: prepared for the ungodly.
Power beyond Power, Pillar of Strength, Refuge of the Homeless, let me serve Thee for all the days of my life! Amen.
But whatever you may find, use it to help keep you on the path that others have laid before you because Accountability + Brotherhood do equal Success in so much more ways that you can think
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Day 723 ....
Think too much dust has settled on this so going to shake it off. And must say just wow. Not rehashing anything as to what is happening in other places, just want to state and look forward on a few observations for myself.
Before KTC, I wasted time in my life (running our to get my next fix, finding ways to do so) and was a person who lied to myself (I would quit after X, or would stop when X happened). It was KTC that showed me that by coming here and making that pledge/promise each day, that not only was it helping me to take control of this addiction, but it led me to becoming a better person. I have also gained that time back in my daily life that I have put to use in exercising and spending it with my family, and that includes time in the chat room with my family here at KTC.
So when we look, this is definitely something not to dismiss.
Now there have been times, and you will hear, that periods are needed to take a deep breath, to live your life and 'post and go'. Hell just like in real life there are times we need the alone time from our spouse, from our kids. But it is that time where we need to use it to grow, to mature our quit to the next level. To find a little something to re-energize us. Sometimes it may be picking up on something similar with a newly quit person, or some drama that may occur. Because last I looked, families do generate drama within their walls. So when these things occur, it is normal and will happen. Those of us not involved need to learn from it. Those involved need to think deep down and also learn from it.
And again with these periods of time, they are not to be dismissed easily.
During one of the times that I was 'just posting roll', I found this gem for myself. Yes I am a true fan of the Medieval Knights, (that goes back to before college and is the reason for my handle) and this prayer that I found that was spoken before entering battle against an enemy, I can see using multiple times:
A Knight's Prayer
Almighty God, Eternal Father, Lord of Lords, have mercy upon me, a humble knight in Thy Divine Service. Oh Lord, I pray for Thy indulgence and blessings. Forget not Thine servant in his trials, nor his Order of Knighthood. I pray, that Thy Will be done in all things, both great and small.
Let me always be worthy of Thee, let me not forget Thee in good times nor bad. Armor me with the armor of Thy Righteousness, give me the sword of Truth that I shall confound Thine enemies and be unto Thee a true knight.
O Lord, in my hour of need, be with me. Let me never forget my sacred and holy vows unto Thee, that I should not be prey unto demons and devils nor the dark things of this world.
Let me always be a beacon unto those in distress, never allow me to forget my obligation unto the homeless nor the poor: let me serve Thee and Thine Eternal Throne all the days of my life. Let me always remember the obligations that I have taken upon me. Lord, if it is Thine Will, let me serve Thee forever!
If ever, oh Lord, I turn from Thee and this Order, let my name forever be cursed, may my spurs be broken and my body given unto demons to dwell with them forever in that Lake of Fire which Thou hast: prepared for the ungodly.
Power beyond Power, Pillar of Strength, Refuge of the Homeless, let me serve Thee for all the days of my life! Amen.
But whatever you may find, use it to help keep you on the path that others have laid before you because Accountability + Brotherhood do equal Success in so much more ways that you can think
Amen SirD. The voice of reason. Thank you sir. All families suffer some dysfunction, why should KTC be any different. This too shall pass. I just hope that no young quits are harmed.
Quit on friend.
Ryan
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Day 723 ....
Think too much dust has settled on this so going to shake it off. And must say just wow. Not rehashing anything as to what is happening in other places, just want to state and look forward on a few observations for myself.
Before KTC, I wasted time in my life (running our to get my next fix, finding ways to do so) and was a person who lied to myself (I would quit after X, or would stop when X happened). It was KTC that showed me that by coming here and making that pledge/promise each day, that not only was it helping me to take control of this addiction, but it led me to becoming a better person. I have also gained that time back in my daily life that I have put to use in exercising and spending it with my family, and that includes time in the chat room with my family here at KTC.
So when we look, this is definitely something not to dismiss.
Now there have been times, and you will hear, that periods are needed to take a deep breath, to live your life and 'post and go'. Hell just like in real life there are times we need the alone time from our spouse, from our kids. But it is that time where we need to use it to grow, to mature our quit to the next level. To find a little something to re-energize us. Sometimes it may be picking up on something similar with a newly quit person, or some drama that may occur. Because last I looked, families do generate drama within their walls. So when these things occur, it is normal and will happen. Those of us not involved need to learn from it. Those involved need to think deep down and also learn from it.
And again with these periods of time, they are not to be dismissed easily.
During one of the times that I was 'just posting roll', I found this gem for myself. Yes I am a true fan of the Medieval Knights, (that goes back to before college and is the reason for my handle) and this prayer that I found that was spoken before entering battle against an enemy, I can see using multiple times:
A Knight's Prayer
Almighty God, Eternal Father, Lord of Lords, have mercy upon me, a humble knight in Thy Divine Service. Oh Lord, I pray for Thy indulgence and blessings. Forget not Thine servant in his trials, nor his Order of Knighthood. I pray, that Thy Will be done in all things, both great and small.
Let me always be worthy of Thee, let me not forget Thee in good times nor bad. Armor me with the armor of Thy Righteousness, give me the sword of Truth that I shall confound Thine enemies and be unto Thee a true knight.
O Lord, in my hour of need, be with me. Let me never forget my sacred and holy vows unto Thee, that I should not be prey unto demons and devils nor the dark things of this world.
Let me always be a beacon unto those in distress, never allow me to forget my obligation unto the homeless nor the poor: let me serve Thee and Thine Eternal Throne all the days of my life. Let me always remember the obligations that I have taken upon me. Lord, if it is Thine Will, let me serve Thee forever!
If ever, oh Lord, I turn from Thee and this Order, let my name forever be cursed, may my spurs be broken and my body given unto demons to dwell with them forever in that Lake of Fire which Thou hast: prepared for the ungodly.
Power beyond Power, Pillar of Strength, Refuge of the Homeless, let me serve Thee for all the days of my life! Amen.
But whatever you may find, use it to help keep you on the path that others have laid before you because Accountability + Brotherhood do equal Success in so much more ways that you can think
Amen SirD. The voice of reason. Thank you sir. All families suffer some dysfunction, why should KTC be any different. This too shall pass. I just hope that no young quits are harmed.
Quit on friend.
Ryan
Honest gratitude and admiration for what you consistently bring Sir D.
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Day 723 ....
Think too much dust has settled on this so going to shake it off. And must say just wow. Not rehashing anything as to what is happening in other places, just want to state and look forward on a few observations for myself.
Before KTC, I wasted time in my life (running our to get my next fix, finding ways to do so) and was a person who lied to myself (I would quit after X, or would stop when X happened). It was KTC that showed me that by coming here and making that pledge/promise each day, that not only was it helping me to take control of this addiction, but it led me to becoming a better person. I have also gained that time back in my daily life that I have put to use in exercising and spending it with my family, and that includes time in the chat room with my family here at KTC.
So when we look, this is definitely something not to dismiss.
Now there have been times, and you will hear, that periods are needed to take a deep breath, to live your life and 'post and go'. Hell just like in real life there are times we need the alone time from our spouse, from our kids. But it is that time where we need to use it to grow, to mature our quit to the next level. To find a little something to re-energize us. Sometimes it may be picking up on something similar with a newly quit person, or some drama that may occur. Because last I looked, families do generate drama within their walls. So when these things occur, it is normal and will happen. Those of us not involved need to learn from it. Those involved need to think deep down and also learn from it.
And again with these periods of time, they are not to be dismissed easily.
During one of the times that I was 'just posting roll', I found this gem for myself. Yes I am a true fan of the Medieval Knights, (that goes back to before college and is the reason for my handle) and this prayer that I found that was spoken before entering battle against an enemy, I can see using multiple times:
A Knight's Prayer
Almighty God, Eternal Father, Lord of Lords, have mercy upon me, a humble knight in Thy Divine Service. Oh Lord, I pray for Thy indulgence and blessings. Forget not Thine servant in his trials, nor his Order of Knighthood. I pray, that Thy Will be done in all things, both great and small.
Let me always be worthy of Thee, let me not forget Thee in good times nor bad. Armor me with the armor of Thy Righteousness, give me the sword of Truth that I shall confound Thine enemies and be unto Thee a true knight.
O Lord, in my hour of need, be with me. Let me never forget my sacred and holy vows unto Thee, that I should not be prey unto demons and devils nor the dark things of this world.
Let me always be a beacon unto those in distress, never allow me to forget my obligation unto the homeless nor the poor: let me serve Thee and Thine Eternal Throne all the days of my life. Let me always remember the obligations that I have taken upon me. Lord, if it is Thine Will, let me serve Thee forever!
If ever, oh Lord, I turn from Thee and this Order, let my name forever be cursed, may my spurs be broken and my body given unto demons to dwell with them forever in that Lake of Fire which Thou hast: prepared for the ungodly.
Power beyond Power, Pillar of Strength, Refuge of the Homeless, let me serve Thee for all the days of my life! Amen.
But whatever you may find, use it to help keep you on the path that others have laid before you because Accountability + Brotherhood do equal Success in so much more ways that you can think
Amen SirD. The voice of reason. Thank you sir. All families suffer some dysfunction, why should KTC be any different. This too shall pass. I just hope that no young quits are harmed.
Quit on friend.
Ryan
Honest gratitude and admiration for what you consistently bring Sir D.
Werd. Thanks for what you do here.
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Day 723 ....
Think too much dust has settled on this so going to shake it off. And must say just wow. Not rehashing anything as to what is happening in other places, just want to state and look forward on a few observations for myself.
Before KTC, I wasted time in my life (running our to get my next fix, finding ways to do so) and was a person who lied to myself (I would quit after X, or would stop when X happened). It was KTC that showed me that by coming here and making that pledge/promise each day, that not only was it helping me to take control of this addiction, but it led me to becoming a better person. I have also gained that time back in my daily life that I have put to use in exercising and spending it with my family, and that includes time in the chat room with my family here at KTC.
So when we look, this is definitely something not to dismiss.
Now there have been times, and you will hear, that periods are needed to take a deep breath, to live your life and 'post and go'. Hell just like in real life there are times we need the alone time from our spouse, from our kids. But it is that time where we need to use it to grow, to mature our quit to the next level. To find a little something to re-energize us. Sometimes it may be picking up on something similar with a newly quit person, or some drama that may occur. Because last I looked, families do generate drama within their walls. So when these things occur, it is normal and will happen. Those of us not involved need to learn from it. Those involved need to think deep down and also learn from it.
And again with these periods of time, they are not to be dismissed easily.
During one of the times that I was 'just posting roll', I found this gem for myself. Yes I am a true fan of the Medieval Knights, (that goes back to before college and is the reason for my handle) and this prayer that I found that was spoken before entering battle against an enemy, I can see using multiple times:
A Knight's Prayer
Almighty God, Eternal Father, Lord of Lords, have mercy upon me, a humble knight in Thy Divine Service. Oh Lord, I pray for Thy indulgence and blessings. Forget not Thine servant in his trials, nor his Order of Knighthood. I pray, that Thy Will be done in all things, both great and small.
Let me always be worthy of Thee, let me not forget Thee in good times nor bad. Armor me with the armor of Thy Righteousness, give me the sword of Truth that I shall confound Thine enemies and be unto Thee a true knight.
O Lord, in my hour of need, be with me. Let me never forget my sacred and holy vows unto Thee, that I should not be prey unto demons and devils nor the dark things of this world.
Let me always be a beacon unto those in distress, never allow me to forget my obligation unto the homeless nor the poor: let me serve Thee and Thine Eternal Throne all the days of my life. Let me always remember the obligations that I have taken upon me. Lord, if it is Thine Will, let me serve Thee forever!
If ever, oh Lord, I turn from Thee and this Order, let my name forever be cursed, may my spurs be broken and my body given unto demons to dwell with them forever in that Lake of Fire which Thou hast: prepared for the ungodly.
Power beyond Power, Pillar of Strength, Refuge of the Homeless, let me serve Thee for all the days of my life! Amen.
But whatever you may find, use it to help keep you on the path that others have laid before you because Accountability + Brotherhood do equal Success in so much more ways that you can think
Amen SirD. The voice of reason. Thank you sir. All families suffer some dysfunction, why should KTC be any different. This too shall pass. I just hope that no young quits are harmed.
Quit on friend.
Ryan
Honest gratitude and admiration for what you consistently bring Sir D.
Werd. Thanks for what you do here.
Nice reflection Derek
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Day 723 ....
Think too much dust has settled on this so going to shake it off. And must say just wow. Not rehashing anything as to what is happening in other places, just want to state and look forward on a few observations for myself.
Before KTC, I wasted time in my life (running our to get my next fix, finding ways to do so) and was a person who lied to myself (I would quit after X, or would stop when X happened). It was KTC that showed me that by coming here and making that pledge/promise each day, that not only was it helping me to take control of this addiction, but it led me to becoming a better person. I have also gained that time back in my daily life that I have put to use in exercising and spending it with my family, and that includes time in the chat room with my family here at KTC.
So when we look, this is definitely something not to dismiss.
Now there have been times, and you will hear, that periods are needed to take a deep breath, to live your life and 'post and go'. Hell just like in real life there are times we need the alone time from our spouse, from our kids. But it is that time where we need to use it to grow, to mature our quit to the next level. To find a little something to re-energize us. Sometimes it may be picking up on something similar with a newly quit person, or some drama that may occur. Because last I looked, families do generate drama within their walls. So when these things occur, it is normal and will happen. Those of us not involved need to learn from it. Those involved need to think deep down and also learn from it.
And again with these periods of time, they are not to be dismissed easily.
During one of the times that I was 'just posting roll', I found this gem for myself. Yes I am a true fan of the Medieval Knights, (that goes back to before college and is the reason for my handle) and this prayer that I found that was spoken before entering battle against an enemy, I can see using multiple times:
A Knight's Prayer
Almighty God, Eternal Father, Lord of Lords, have mercy upon me, a humble knight in Thy Divine Service. Oh Lord, I pray for Thy indulgence and blessings. Forget not Thine servant in his trials, nor his Order of Knighthood. I pray, that Thy Will be done in all things, both great and small.
Let me always be worthy of Thee, let me not forget Thee in good times nor bad. Armor me with the armor of Thy Righteousness, give me the sword of Truth that I shall confound Thine enemies and be unto Thee a true knight.
O Lord, in my hour of need, be with me. Let me never forget my sacred and holy vows unto Thee, that I should not be prey unto demons and devils nor the dark things of this world.
Let me always be a beacon unto those in distress, never allow me to forget my obligation unto the homeless nor the poor: let me serve Thee and Thine Eternal Throne all the days of my life. Let me always remember the obligations that I have taken upon me. Lord, if it is Thine Will, let me serve Thee forever!
If ever, oh Lord, I turn from Thee and this Order, let my name forever be cursed, may my spurs be broken and my body given unto demons to dwell with them forever in that Lake of Fire which Thou hast: prepared for the ungodly.
Power beyond Power, Pillar of Strength, Refuge of the Homeless, let me serve Thee for all the days of my life! Amen.
But whatever you may find, use it to help keep you on the path that others have laid before you because Accountability + Brotherhood do equal Success in so much more ways that you can think
Amen SirD. The voice of reason. Thank you sir. All families suffer some dysfunction, why should KTC be any different. This too shall pass. I just hope that no young quits are harmed.
Quit on friend.
Ryan
Honest gratitude and admiration for what you consistently bring Sir D.
Werd. Thanks for what you do here.
Nice reflection Derek
This American Welshman loves the Knight. Good post Sir Derek. :wub:
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that is not quite the suit of armor that I have been looking for. I think I need to fire the metalworker at the forge.
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that is not quite the suit of armor that I have been looking for. I think I need to fire the metalworker at the forge.
love the blue SD!!
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that is not quite the suit of armor that I have been looking for. I think I need to fire the metalworker at the forge.
love the blue SD!!
Hi SD....Congrats on the Blue. I like the red on you but the blue really brings out your eyes. Well deserved.....you remain a stellar quitter!
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27-Jun-2014
Wasn't planning to be back in here so soon but I needed to get this off my chest (nothing horrible):
For those that have come to know me here I am a regular guy just like the most of you. I have also been called the level headed one. For that take a look through my intro and decide for
yourself.
Now one of the words that I would say is probably a quality that I have, and people may call
me and that is Naive. When I look up the Websters definition I see "marked by unaffected
simplicity", and with this I would tend to agree. I like to keep it simple. I like to look at
a person and extend them the trust up front. You know the wear your heart out on your sleeve.
Well I had never thought about it before in being a good or bad quality to have, but after
recent events, I feel that this has become a little chink in my armor.
So on these days where I should be happy as my group hits and myself nears the 2 year peak, I lay in a sleepless state in bed with the feeling (whether real or imagined, and it may just be in my head) of many wounds in between my shoulder blades.
But you know what. I picked my head from the pillow and gave my word today to not use any nicotine. That would make 724 days out of 725 that I have posted my word and have honored it (I joined on my day 2, and the missed day was out on the Appalacian Trail leading the boy scouts on the overnight hiking trip). I will also be looking through the intros and plan to spend my usual 4+ hours, in the live chat room doing what I can for those who need help, or a distraction, or just a friendly hello. I try to be that friend, that mentor, that brother.
What will sting and take time, is the healing of the wounds. And with time they will go away and this will pass. But that which has not killed me can only make me stronger.
So my armor is back in the forge, being tailored to be stronger than ever in this fight against the poison that brought us here.
So who needs a quit partner today, Lets honor our word
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27-Jun-2014
Wasn't planning to be back in here so soon but I needed to get this off my chest (nothing horrible):
For those that have come to know me here I am a regular guy just like the most of you. I have also been called the level headed one. For that take a look through my intro and decide for
yourself.
Now one of the words that I would say is probably a quality that I have, and people may call
me and that is Naive. When I look up the Websters definition I see "marked by unaffected
simplicity", and with this I would tend to agree. I like to keep it simple. I like to look at
a person and extend them the trust up front. You know the wear your heart out on your sleeve.
Well I had never thought about it before in being a good or bad quality to have, but after
recent events, I feel that this has become a little chink in my armor.
So on these days where I should be happy as my group hits and myself nears the 2 year peak, I lay in a sleepless state in bed with the feeling (whether real or imagined, and it may just be in my head) of many wounds in between my shoulder blades.
But you know what. I picked my head from the pillow and gave my word today to not use any nicotine. That would make 724 days out of 725 that I have posted my word and have honored it (I joined on my day 2, and the missed day was out on the Appalacian Trail leading the boy scouts on the overnight hiking trip). I will also be looking through the intros and plan to spend my usual 4+ hours, in the live chat room doing what I can for those who need help, or a distraction, or just a friendly hello. I try to be that friend, that mentor, that brother.
What will sting and take time, is the healing of the wounds. And with time they will go away and this will pass. But that which has not killed me can only make me stronger.
So my armor is back in the forge, being tailored to be stronger than ever in this fight against the poison that brought us here.
So who needs a quit partner today, Lets honor our word
I'll quit with you SD. Any day. You have my word today.
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I'm with you.
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I'm with you.
I'm with you SirD
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I'm with you.
I'm with you SirD
Quit with you today SD, always a pleasure chatting in chat with you.
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27-Jun-2014
Wasn't planning to be back in here so soon but I needed to get this off my chest (nothing horrible):
For those that have come to know me here I am a regular guy just like the most of you. I have also been called the level headed one. For that take a look through my intro and decide for
yourself.
Now one of the words that I would say is probably a quality that I have, and people may call
me and that is Naive. When I look up the Websters definition I see "marked by unaffected
simplicity", and with this I would tend to agree. I like to keep it simple. I like to look at
a person and extend them the trust up front. You know the wear your heart out on your sleeve.
Well I had never thought about it before in being a good or bad quality to have, but after
recent events, I feel that this has become a little chink in my armor.
So on these days where I should be happy as my group hits and myself nears the 2 year peak, I lay in a sleepless state in bed with the feeling (whether real or imagined, and it may just be in my head) of many wounds in between my shoulder blades.
But you know what. I picked my head from the pillow and gave my word today to not use any nicotine. That would make 724 days out of 725 that I have posted my word and have honored it (I joined on my day 2, and the missed day was out on the Appalacian Trail leading the boy scouts on the overnight hiking trip). I will also be looking through the intros and plan to spend my usual 4+ hours, in the live chat room doing what I can for those who need help, or a distraction, or just a friendly hello. I try to be that friend, that mentor, that brother.
What will sting and take time, is the healing of the wounds. And with time they will go away and this will pass. But that which has not killed me can only make me stronger.
So my armor is back in the forge, being tailored to be stronger than ever in this fight against the poison that brought us here.
So who needs a quit partner today, Lets honor our word
I'll quit with you SD. Any day. You have my word today.
Proud to quit with you, brother.
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27-Jun-2014
Wasn't planning to be back in here so soon but I needed to get this off my chest (nothing horrible):
For those that have come to know me here I am a regular guy just like the most of you. I have also been called the level headed one. For that take a look through my intro and decide for
yourself.
Now one of the words that I would say is probably a quality that I have, and people may call
me and that is Naive. When I look up the Websters definition I see "marked by unaffected
simplicity", and with this I would tend to agree. I like to keep it simple. I like to look at
a person and extend them the trust up front. You know the wear your heart out on your sleeve.
Well I had never thought about it before in being a good or bad quality to have, but after
recent events, I feel that this has become a little chink in my armor.
So on these days where I should be happy as my group hits and myself nears the 2 year peak, I lay in a sleepless state in bed with the feeling (whether real or imagined, and it may just be in my head) of many wounds in between my shoulder blades.
But you know what. I picked my head from the pillow and gave my word today to not use any nicotine. That would make 724 days out of 725 that I have posted my word and have honored it (I joined on my day 2, and the missed day was out on the Appalacian Trail leading the boy scouts on the overnight hiking trip). I will also be looking through the intros and plan to spend my usual 4+ hours, in the live chat room doing what I can for those who need help, or a distraction, or just a friendly hello. I try to be that friend, that mentor, that brother.
What will sting and take time, is the healing of the wounds. And with time they will go away and this will pass. But that which has not killed me can only make me stronger.
So my armor is back in the forge, being tailored to be stronger than ever in this fight against the poison that brought us here.
So who needs a quit partner today, Lets honor our word
I'll quit with you SD. Any day. You have my word today.
Proud to quit with you, brother.
You know my loyalty is with you my brother! I quit with you today and everyday!
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Im with you too
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Im with you too
congrats derek help get the house back in order
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Im with you too
congrats derek help get the house back in order
I'm here too, great post Derek. Cooler heads are beginning to show through. I think of KTC as my family, my brothers that have helped show me a better way to live. Families have fights, disagree, feelings get hurt and egos bruised. The important thing is to stick together, I see that now... thanks SD.
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Im with you too
congrats derek help get the house back in order
I'm here too, great post Derek. Cooler heads are beginning to show through. I think of KTC as my family, my brothers that have helped show me a better way to live. Families have fights, disagree, feelings get hurt and egos bruised. The important thing is to stick together, I see that now... thanks SD.
You and many of the men that have posted on your thread led me through the darkest hours of my life. I remember seriously considering rolling myself up into a ball and crying at one point. Ok, truth be told it was just a consideration because I was way too fat then... But nonetheless that was what I felt like. You guys pulled me out if that darkness and led me to a light that I couldn't imagine.
I quit with all of you today, and I thank you for saving my life and making it worth living.
This is what KTC is about.
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27-Jun-2014
Wasn't planning to be back in here so soon but I needed to get this off my chest (nothing horrible):
For those that have come to know me here I am a regular guy just like the most of you. I have also been called the level headed one. For that take a look through my intro and decide for
yourself.
Now one of the words that I would say is probably a quality that I have, and people may call
me and that is Naive. When I look up the Websters definition I see "marked by unaffected
simplicity", and with this I would tend to agree. I like to keep it simple. I like to look at
a person and extend them the trust up front. You know the wear your heart out on your sleeve.
Well I had never thought about it before in being a good or bad quality to have, but after
recent events, I feel that this has become a little chink in my armor.
So on these days where I should be happy as my group hits and myself nears the 2 year peak, I lay in a sleepless state in bed with the feeling (whether real or imagined, and it may just be in my head) of many wounds in between my shoulder blades.
But you know what. I picked my head from the pillow and gave my word today to not use any nicotine. That would make 724 days out of 725 that I have posted my word and have honored it (I joined on my day 2, and the missed day was out on the Appalacian Trail leading the boy scouts on the overnight hiking trip). I will also be looking through the intros and plan to spend my usual 4+ hours, in the live chat room doing what I can for those who need help, or a distraction, or just a friendly hello. I try to be that friend, that mentor, that brother.
What will sting and take time, is the healing of the wounds. And with time they will go away and this will pass. But that which has not killed me can only make me stronger.
So my armor is back in the forge, being tailored to be stronger than ever in this fight against the poison that brought us here.
So who needs a quit partner today, Lets honor our word
I'll quit with you SD. Any day. You have my word today.
Proud to quit with you, brother.
You know my loyalty is with you my brother! I quit with you today and everyday!
'BanDog'
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Thank you all for the kind words and the show of personal support. I just wish I would have done this early on in my quit instead of holding it in, because what happened here today shows me that something works.
As the sun sets, I do feel better, the wounds are healing, the armor is just about ready for when it may be needed.
Here's to what will hopefully be a sound nights sleep and a return to health in the morning. And Here's to seeing all of you here on roll for tomorrow
(on a side note because it was one of the few smiles I actually had over the past couple of days, I am getting CS a Yonana's machine for all of his f*cking bananas....)
home is where the heart is.....would that be a good summary....good night
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Thank you all for the kind words and the show of personal support. I just wish I would have done this early on in my quit instead of holding it in, because what happened here today shows me that something works.
As the sun sets, I do feel better, the wounds are healing, the armor is just about ready for when it may be needed.
Here's to what will hopefully be a sound nights sleep and a return to health in the morning. And Here's to seeing all of you here on roll for tomorrow
(on a side note because it was one of the few smiles I actually had over the past couple of days, I am getting CS a Yonana's machine for all of his f*cking bananas....)
home is where the heart is.....would that be a good summary....good night
Sir, you have more than my support...... you have my faith, I as many here do follow in your footsteps.
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Thank you all for the kind words and the show of personal support. I just wish I would have done this early on in my quit instead of holding it in, because what happened here today shows me that something works.
As the sun sets, I do feel better, the wounds are healing, the armor is just about ready for when it may be needed.
Here's to what will hopefully be a sound nights sleep and a return to health in the morning. And Here's to seeing all of you here on roll for tomorrow
(on a side note because it was one of the few smiles I actually had over the past couple of days, I am getting CS a Yonana's machine for all of his f*cking bananas....)
home is where the heart is.....would that be a good summary....good night
Sir, you have more than my support...... you have my faith, I as many here do follow in your footsteps.
Advancing the quit another day and damn glad to have you protecting my back
I will collect on that signature!
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Day 727
Well it amazes me what a little sleep can do, was not much but it was needed. Again I thank those who sent their support. I also had realized something in a comment I had made somewhere last night, about something or somebody being out of character.
That led me today to search back through my intro, and I cold not locate where I may have referenced one of my favorite quotes:
"To Thine Own Self Be True."
I think about it and believe this may have been one of my issues over the last days. See I am someone who has had all of the training on how to write the business e-mails and that about the written word (being in corporate), and I have also had the training (through Scouts) to recognize when youth change their behavior which may mean that something is wrong.
Well this past week I ignored both of these parts of me. I jumped into knee jerk reactions that led me to a very wrong interpretation. There were things being written and going back and forth that for some were in character but others were out of (when I go back and look now), and my mind just combined these all into the 'out of' category. And this is something that is totally not me. This was totally out of my character.
So after taking the deep breath, after multiple messages and some great phone calls, the mind is becoming more at ease; the body is feeling that the strength is returning.
"To Thine Own Self Be True".
One thing that I plan to focus on myself as I serve this house.
One concept that I plan to use when I look around to support you in your quit.
One thing that I ask that you point out to me if you see any change in me (as you did when I posted last that I was hurting)
I think that armor may be ready, who wants to win this battle together.
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Day 727
Well it amazes me what a little sleep can do, was not much but it was needed. Again I thank those who sent their support. I also had realized something in a comment I had made somewhere last night, about something or somebody being out of character.
That led me today to search back through my intro, and I cold not locate where I may have referenced one of my favorite quotes:
"To Thine Own Self Be True."
I think about it and believe this may have been one of my issues over the last days. See I am someone who has had all of the training on how to write the business e-mails and that about the written word (being in corporate), and I have also had the training (through Scouts) to recognize when youth change their behavior which may mean that something is wrong.
Well this past week I ignored both of these parts of me. I jumped into knee jerk reactions that led me to a very wrong interpretation. There were things being written and going back and forth that for some were in character but others were out of (when I go back and look now), and my mind just combined these all into the 'out of' category. And this is something that is totally not me. This was totally out of my character.
So after taking the deep breath, after multiple messages and some great phone calls, the mind is becoming more at ease; the body is feeling that the strength is returning.
"To Thine Own Self Be True".
One thing that I plan to focus on myself as I serve this house.
One concept that I plan to use when I look around to support you in your quit.
One thing that I ask that you point out to me if you see any change in me (as you did when I posted last that I was hurting)
I think that armor may be ready, who wants to win this battle together.
I'll strap on the armor and shield with you every damn day
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Day 727
Well it amazes me what a little sleep can do, was not much but it was needed. Again I thank those who sent their support. I also had realized something in a comment I had made somewhere last night, about something or somebody being out of character.
That led me today to search back through my intro, and I cold not locate where I may have referenced one of my favorite quotes:
"To Thine Own Self Be True."
I think about it and believe this may have been one of my issues over the last days. See I am someone who has had all of the training on how to write the business e-mails and that about the written word (being in corporate), and I have also had the training (through Scouts) to recognize when youth change their behavior which may mean that something is wrong.
Well this past week I ignored both of these parts of me. I jumped into knee jerk reactions that led me to a very wrong interpretation. There were things being written and going back and forth that for some were in character but others were out of (when I go back and look now), and my mind just combined these all into the 'out of' category. And this is something that is totally not me. This was totally out of my character.
So after taking the deep breath, after multiple messages and some great phone calls, the mind is becoming more at ease; the body is feeling that the strength is returning.
"To Thine Own Self Be True".
One thing that I plan to focus on myself as I serve this house.
One concept that I plan to use when I look around to support you in your quit.
One thing that I ask that you point out to me if you see any change in me (as you did when I posted last that I was hurting)
I think that armor may be ready, who wants to win this battle together.
Derek-
I thoroughly enjoyed our chat, as always. I am so glad you are doing better now. So many things have happened the last few days that have affected a lot of good people. I too stepped back, away from everything relating to any quit site other than my promise (never step away from that) and did some thinking. I have shared texts and calls with those that have been my greatest supporters and it was very healing. I love that quote, "To Thine Own Self Be True". Definitely words to live by. To often people jump to conclusions or read into things and that only creates issues for everyone. Regardless, be who you are and do what you do. You are an amazing quitter and a great friend. I am proud to have you in my corner.
Can't wait to hang out with you and have you as my personal tour guide in Philly this summer. It will be great!
Love you, my brother. Quit with you every damn day!
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Day 727
Well it amazes me what a little sleep can do, was not much but it was needed. Again I thank those who sent their support. I also had realized something in a comment I had made somewhere last night, about something or somebody being out of character.
That led me today to search back through my intro, and I cold not locate where I may have referenced one of my favorite quotes:
"To Thine Own Self Be True."
I think about it and believe this may have been one of my issues over the last days. See I am someone who has had all of the training on how to write the business e-mails and that about the written word (being in corporate), and I have also had the training (through Scouts) to recognize when youth change their behavior which may mean that something is wrong.
Well this past week I ignored both of these parts of me. I jumped into knee jerk reactions that led me to a very wrong interpretation. There were things being written and going back and forth that for some were in character but others were out of (when I go back and look now), and my mind just combined these all into the 'out of' category. And this is something that is totally not me. This was totally out of my character.
So after taking the deep breath, after multiple messages and some great phone calls, the mind is becoming more at ease; the body is feeling that the strength is returning.
"To Thine Own Self Be True".
One thing that I plan to focus on myself as I serve this house.
One concept that I plan to use when I look around to support you in your quit.
One thing that I ask that you point out to me if you see any change in me (as you did when I posted last that I was hurting)
I think that armor may be ready, who wants to win this battle together.
Derek-
I thoroughly enjoyed our chat, as always. I am so glad you are doing better now. So many things have happened the last few days that have affected a lot of good people. I too stepped back, away from everything relating to any quit site other than my promise (never step away from that) and did some thinking. I have shared texts and calls with those that have been my greatest supporters and it was very healing. I love that quote, "To Thine Own Self Be True". Definitely words to live by. To often people jump to conclusions or read into things and that only creates issues for everyone. Regardless, be who you are and do what you do. You are an amazing quitter and a great friend. I am proud to have you in my corner.
Can't wait to hang out with you and have you as my personal tour guide in Philly this summer. It will be great!
Love you, my brother. Quit with you every damn day!
This is some good shit right here.
Good times, bad times... This crew of quitters sticks together!
I'm proud to quit with you today, Derek. Don't let Cindy eat too many cheesesteaks. Those things are addictive too.
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27-Jun-2014
Wasn't planning to be back in here so soon but I needed to get this off my chest (nothing horrible):
For those that have come to know me here I am a regular guy just like the most of you. I have also been called the level headed one. For that take a look through my intro and decide for
yourself.
Now one of the words that I would say is probably a quality that I have, and people may call
me and that is Naive. When I look up the Websters definition I see "marked by unaffected
simplicity", and with this I would tend to agree. I like to keep it simple. I like to look at
a person and extend them the trust up front. You know the wear your heart out on your sleeve.
Well I had never thought about it before in being a good or bad quality to have, but after
recent events, I feel that this has become a little chink in my armor.
So on these days where I should be happy as my group hits and myself nears the 2 year peak, I lay in a sleepless state in bed with the feeling (whether real or imagined, and it may just be in my head) of many wounds in between my shoulder blades.
But you know what. I picked my head from the pillow and gave my word today to not use any nicotine. That would make 724 days out of 725 that I have posted my word and have honored it (I joined on my day 2, and the missed day was out on the Appalacian Trail leading the boy scouts on the overnight hiking trip). I will also be looking through the intros and plan to spend my usual 4+ hours, in the live chat room doing what I can for those who need help, or a distraction, or just a friendly hello. I try to be that friend, that mentor, that brother.
What will sting and take time, is the healing of the wounds. And with time they will go away and this will pass. But that which has not killed me can only make me stronger.
So my armor is back in the forge, being tailored to be stronger than ever in this fight against the poison that brought us here.
So who needs a quit partner today, Lets honor our word
I'll quit with you SD. Any day. You have my word today.
Proud to quit with you, brother.
You know my loyalty is with you my brother! I quit with you today and everyday!
I am in Derek. I see you up ahead there, closing in on 2 years. You have been grooming that trail for the guys behind you. You even have a little knack for reaching forward and "leading up" a little if you know what I mean. Keep up the great work brother.
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I know you are saying another post from this guy....
well yes, I guess coming up on another milestone is making me a little reflective. And this one I have to say I had totally forgotten a promise that I had made to myself, and one where I have not carried through.
You see, with all that I have spoken of brotherhood I have dropped the ball. I made myself a promise when I had hit the 1 year mark, that I would do more. And that more was not just to post in my thread, was not to just interact in the live chat room, and was not to just send the typed message (text) to those who I had their numbers. No my promise was to actually pick up that phone and listen to the spoken words of those who I considered friends.
Now I have done this in part, and have done it in person (what with the PA and GA get togethers), but I have failed myself when it came to doing it constantly.
Therefore, in keeping with the person that this place has shown me who I can be, I make this pledge moving forward that I will be more 'vocal' in getting in touch with everyone that I can. As I find out that the spoken word can be so much better, and so much more helpful than just the written one.
So to those new quitters, and to those not-so-new quitters, I am going to suggest to you, to incorporate this within your quit. For me I cannot say how much it has helped, especially at those lowest points when a kind word hits home when heard than it is when seen.
Thank you to those who I have spoken to and thank you to those who I will be speaking to soon.
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I know you are saying another post from this guy....
well yes, I guess coming up on another milestone is making me a little reflective. And this one I have to say I had totally forgotten a promise that I had made to myself, and one where I have not carried through.
You see, with all that I have spoken of brotherhood I have dropped the ball. I made myself a promise when I had hit the 1 year mark, that I would do more. And that more was not just to post in my thread, was not to just interact in the live chat room, and was not to just send the typed message (text) to those who I had their numbers. No my promise was to actually pick up that phone and listen to the spoken words of those who I considered friends.
Now I have done this in part, and have done it in person (what with the PA and GA get togethers), but I have failed myself when it came to doing it constantly.
Therefore, in keeping with the person that this place has shown me who I can be, I make this pledge moving forward that I will be more 'vocal' in getting in touch with everyone that I can. As I find out that the spoken word can be so much better, and so much more helpful than just the written one.
So to those new quitters, and to those not-so-new quitters, I am going to suggest to you, to incorporate this within your quit. For me I cannot say how much it has helped, especially at those lowest points when a kind word hits home when heard than it is when seen.
Thank you to those who I have spoken to and thank you to those who I will be speaking to soon.
Yes. Thank you sir. If I can be of assistance to anyone it is my pleasure. If I can be half as helpful as Mr. Derek it would delight. Speaking for us both, your quit is important.
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ok now I am starting to feel a bit like Crash Davis talking to Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' Laloosh
"God, I can't keep giving you these free lessons so quit screwin' around and help me up. "
yes I am nuts but will keep it short and sweet.
But remember all, when you quit to have a plan. write it down. we do this in other aspects of our lives so why not apply it here to quitting.
So in the words of Benjamin Franklin - “If you fail to plan, you are planning to fail!”
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Why do you keep calling me Meat?
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Women get weary, they don't get 'Wooly'! God I hate it when people get the lyrics wrong!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnIaqAsnSxU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnIaqAsnSxU)
"Lollygaggers!"
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Happy anniversary! You have led many of us to freedom, Derek. Thank you. - and enjoy your day!
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Wow not even the first to get in here for my 730.
W2W thank you my friend.
To all of those who are here there and everywhere today, to those with more days than myself, and those with less days than myself, I thank you from the bottom of my heart as I would not be here today without you all.
And to those who have drifted away who were also instrumental in my quit, specifically in my early days, I wish you all would still be here to celebrate this with me as you are missed.
But in all, just another day quit for us all, with another one to come
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Wow not even the first to get in here for my 730.
W2W thank you my friend.
To all of those who are here there and everywhere today, to those with more days than myself, and those with less days than myself, I thank you from the bottom of my heart as I would not be here today without you all.
And to those who have drifted away who were also instrumental in my quit, specifically in my early days, I wish you all would still be here to celebrate this with me as you are missed.
But in all, just another day quit for us all, with another one to come
Awesome job on your second single digit, Sir. This is a huge accomplishment, and I comment you for your activity on this site and commitment to make it the great place it is.
Quit on.
~Frazz
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Wow not even the first to get in here for my 730.
W2W thank you my friend.
To all of those who are here there and everywhere today, to those with more days than myself, and those with less days than myself, I thank you from the bottom of my heart as I would not be here today without you all.
And to those who have drifted away who were also instrumental in my quit, specifically in my early days, I wish you all would still be here to celebrate this with me as you are missed.
But in all, just another day quit for us all, with another one to come
Awesome job on your second single digit, Sir. This is a huge accomplishment, and I comment you for your activity on this site and commitment to make it the great place it is.
Quit on.
~Frazz
'horsecrap'
Congrats sirD! Proud to walk this path with you.
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
'BanDog' SDLF 'BanDog'
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
'BanDog' SDLF 'BanDog'
All the above from me too SirD!
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
'BanDog' SDLF 'BanDog'
All the above from me too SirD!
Nice milestone Sir Derek. :Winner:
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
'BanDog' SDLF 'BanDog'
All the above from me too SirD!
Nice milestone Sir Derek. :Winner:
Derek I almost missed this. Unfortunately most of the posts from long time quitters are filled with political KTC stuff. Yawn. Regardless you, along with CBird are the only vets who have been with me on my quit the whole way. I'll quit with you everyday and twice on Tuesdays.
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Today was a great day at home with a few personal decisions......
love this site and the people......thank you all my friends and family
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
'BanDog' SDLF 'BanDog'
All the above from me too SirD!
Nice milestone Sir Derek. :Winner:
well done, keep marching soldier.
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
'BanDog' SDLF 'BanDog'
All the above from me too SirD!
Nice milestone Sir Derek. :Winner:
well done, keep marching soldier.
'party' Well done, Derek! 'party'
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
'BanDog' SDLF 'BanDog'
All the above from me too SirD!
Nice milestone Sir Derek. :Winner:
well done, keep marching soldier.
'party' Well done, Derek! 'party'
Congrats brother, glad to stand beside you in this battle
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congrats Derek thanks for all you do.
Nice work brother!!
Quiting aint easy but can be rewarding!
Congrats brother, thank you for everything.
P
big congrats and big thanks. Great contribution, great class
'BanDog' SDLF 'BanDog'
All the above from me too SirD!
Nice milestone Sir Derek. :Winner:
well done, keep marching soldier.
'party' Well done, Derek! 'party'
Congrats brother, glad to stand beside you in this battle
Nice milestone, sir!!
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As in so many years ago when those brave men fought to gain a country's independence, we too embarked on our own quest to become independent, this one from a poisonous master.
So as we remember all that was given back then, and all that it currently takes for these battles I say:
Thank You and Quit On.
Enjoy a Safe, Happy Independence Day my friends.
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My friends:
I have called you today to announce that due to changes in my personal life and work, I have decided that after a short time, to resign my position of moderator. I found that during the period, the energy it took was consuming was incredibly high for me, and that I would not be able to keep up with that moving ahead.
I do have to say that I am proud of this Admin and Moderator team from what I have seen. They do a tremendous job in covering all of the issues on the site from day to day, that as a member I had no idea that were occurring. And they have my total respect as at the top of their interest is their helping of the quitters on this site. I am glad I was a part of your group and will to continue to call each of you my friend.
Now as I look back to this table in Oct12 that someone had gifted to me back in February, I think there is a fix needed to be doneÂ…
a saw sounds as a worker walks around the table taking small pieces as the corners get cut off, another worker appears with a sander, turns it on and follows the first smoothing out the edges, a third follows with a dust rag and wipes away the sawdust making the table shineÂ…..
There now I am more comfortable. Now I feel like I am back at home. I invite you all, join around this table my friends and letÂ’s celebrate our freedom from nicotine and prepare ourselves to continue our battle each and every day. My word to you is that I will stand in this fight against nicotine right beside you.
I am embarking on a personal quest over the next 7 days and 7 nights, it will be a time for much introspection, to re-find my way, so I will most likely not be around very much, but my table here is for you to use, for squires to ask questions, to celebrate tales of you victories and as I return I will have more tales and recollections to rejoice in.
Be honorable and quit my friends
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My friends:
I have called you today to announce that due to changes in my personal life and work, I have decided that after a short time, to resign my position of moderator. I found that during the period, the energy it took was consuming was incredibly high for me, and that I would not be able to keep up with that moving ahead.
I do have to say that I am proud of this Admin and Moderator team from what I have seen. They do a tremendous job in covering all of the issues on the site from day to day, that as a member I had no idea that were occurring. And they have my total respect as at the top of their interest is their helping of the quitters on this site. I am glad I was a part of your group and will to continue to call each of you my friend.
Now as I look back to this table in Oct12 that someone had gifted to me back in February, I think there is a fix needed to be doneÂ…
a saw sounds as a worker walks around the table taking small pieces as the corners get cut off, another worker appears with a sander, turns it on and follows the first smoothing out the edges, a third follows with a dust rag and wipes away the sawdust making the table shineÂ…..
There now I am more comfortable. Now I feel like I am back at home. I invite you all, join around this table my friends and letÂ’s celebrate our freedom from nicotine and prepare ourselves to continue our battle each and every day. My word to you is that I will stand in this fight against nicotine right beside you.
I am embarking on a personal quest over the next 7 days and 7 nights, it will be a time for much introspection, to re-find my way, so I will most likely not be around very much, but my table here is for you to use, for squires to ask questions, to celebrate tales of you victories and as I return I will have more tales and recollections to rejoice in.
Be honorable and quit my friends
It has been an honor to serve with you friend. You only need to holler if you need anything.
Proud to be quit with you today and every day.
Dale
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My friends:
I have called you today to announce that due to changes in my personal life and work, I have decided that after a short time, to resign my position of moderator. I found that during the period, the energy it took was consuming was incredibly high for me, and that I would not be able to keep up with that moving ahead.
I do have to say that I am proud of this Admin and Moderator team from what I have seen. They do a tremendous job in covering all of the issues on the site from day to day, that as a member I had no idea that were occurring. And they have my total respect as at the top of their interest is their helping of the quitters on this site. I am glad I was a part of your group and will to continue to call each of you my friend.
Now as I look back to this table in Oct12 that someone had gifted to me back in February, I think there is a fix needed to be doneÂ…
a saw sounds as a worker walks around the table taking small pieces as the corners get cut off, another worker appears with a sander, turns it on and follows the first smoothing out the edges, a third follows with a dust rag and wipes away the sawdust making the table shineÂ…..
There now I am more comfortable. Now I feel like I am back at home. I invite you all, join around this table my friends and letÂ’s celebrate our freedom from nicotine and prepare ourselves to continue our battle each and every day. My word to you is that I will stand in this fight against nicotine right beside you.
I am embarking on a personal quest over the next 7 days and 7 nights, it will be a time for much introspection, to re-find my way, so I will most likely not be around very much, but my table here is for you to use, for squires to ask questions, to celebrate tales of you victories and as I return I will have more tales and recollections to rejoice in.
Be honorable and quit my friends
You are an amazing person, Derek. Resigning a position you are proud of and good at takes a lot of thought and is not easy. Quitting is a daily part of your life along with helping others (like me). I hope that everyone that reads this can show you the respect you deserve and thank you for your time as a chat mod/mod instead of run you into the ground over your difficult decision.
I'm proud to call you friend and will support you and your decisions weather I agree with them or not. Thank you, Derek, for all of your hard work and dedication! I know you will continue to help others as it is not in you to just sit back and not help, title or no title!
:wub:
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My friends:
I have called you today to announce that due to changes in my personal life and work, I have decided that after a short time, to resign my position of moderator. I found that during the period, the energy it took was consuming was incredibly high for me, and that I would not be able to keep up with that moving ahead.
I do have to say that I am proud of this Admin and Moderator team from what I have seen. They do a tremendous job in covering all of the issues on the site from day to day, that as a member I had no idea that were occurring. And they have my total respect as at the top of their interest is their helping of the quitters on this site. I am glad I was a part of your group and will to continue to call each of you my friend.
Now as I look back to this table in Oct12 that someone had gifted to me back in February, I think there is a fix needed to be doneÂ…
a saw sounds as a worker walks around the table taking small pieces as the corners get cut off, another worker appears with a sander, turns it on and follows the first smoothing out the edges, a third follows with a dust rag and wipes away the sawdust making the table shineÂ…..
There now I am more comfortable. Now I feel like I am back at home. I invite you all, join around this table my friends and letÂ’s celebrate our freedom from nicotine and prepare ourselves to continue our battle each and every day. My word to you is that I will stand in this fight against nicotine right beside you.
I am embarking on a personal quest over the next 7 days and 7 nights, it will be a time for much introspection, to re-find my way, so I will most likely not be around very much, but my table here is for you to use, for squires to ask questions, to celebrate tales of you victories and as I return I will have more tales and recollections to rejoice in.
Be honorable and quit my friends
You are an amazing person, Derek. Resigning a position you are proud of and good at takes a lot of thought and is not easy. Quitting is a daily part of your life along with helping others (like me). I hope that everyone that reads this can show you the respect you deserve and thank you for your time as a chat mod/mod instead of run you into the ground over your difficult decision.
I'm proud to call you friend and will support you and your decisions weather I agree with them or not. Thank you, Derek, for all of your hard work and dedication! I know you will continue to help others as it is not in you to just sit back and not help, title or no title!
:wub:
Sorry to see you step down, Derek. It's our loss, for sure.
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My friends:
I have called you today to announce that due to changes in my personal life and work, I have decided that after a short time, to resign my position of moderator. I found that during the period, the energy it took was consuming was incredibly high for me, and that I would not be able to keep up with that moving ahead.
I do have to say that I am proud of this Admin and Moderator team from what I have seen. They do a tremendous job in covering all of the issues on the site from day to day, that as a member I had no idea that were occurring. And they have my total respect as at the top of their interest is their helping of the quitters on this site. I am glad I was a part of your group and will to continue to call each of you my friend.
Now as I look back to this table in Oct12 that someone had gifted to me back in February, I think there is a fix needed to be doneÂ…
a saw sounds as a worker walks around the table taking small pieces as the corners get cut off, another worker appears with a sander, turns it on and follows the first smoothing out the edges, a third follows with a dust rag and wipes away the sawdust making the table shineÂ…..
There now I am more comfortable. Now I feel like I am back at home. I invite you all, join around this table my friends and letÂ’s celebrate our freedom from nicotine and prepare ourselves to continue our battle each and every day. My word to you is that I will stand in this fight against nicotine right beside you.
I am embarking on a personal quest over the next 7 days and 7 nights, it will be a time for much introspection, to re-find my way, so I will most likely not be around very much, but my table here is for you to use, for squires to ask questions, to celebrate tales of you victories and as I return I will have more tales and recollections to rejoice in.
Be honorable and quit my friends
You are an amazing person, Derek. Resigning a position you are proud of and good at takes a lot of thought and is not easy. Quitting is a daily part of your life along with helping others (like me). I hope that everyone that reads this can show you the respect you deserve and thank you for your time as a chat mod/mod instead of run you into the ground over your difficult decision.
I'm proud to call you friend and will support you and your decisions weather I agree with them or not. Thank you, Derek, for all of your hard work and dedication! I know you will continue to help others as it is not in you to just sit back and not help, title or no title!
:wub:
Sorry to see you step down, Derek. It's our loss, for sure.
SirDerek, sorry to see you leave. I'm 139 days quit today and you are part of the reason that after 33 years I was able to be quit. You will be missed, but hopefully we will see you here once in awhile. BTW, congrats on two years quit...an amazing accomplishment!
mb289
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My friends:
I have called you today to announce that due to changes in my personal life and work, I have decided that after a short time, to resign my position of moderator. I found that during the period, the energy it took was consuming was incredibly high for me, and that I would not be able to keep up with that moving ahead.
I do have to say that I am proud of this Admin and Moderator team from what I have seen. They do a tremendous job in covering all of the issues on the site from day to day, that as a member I had no idea that were occurring. And they have my total respect as at the top of their interest is their helping of the quitters on this site. I am glad I was a part of your group and will to continue to call each of you my friend.
Now as I look back to this table in Oct12 that someone had gifted to me back in February, I think there is a fix needed to be doneÂ…
a saw sounds as a worker walks around the table taking small pieces as the corners get cut off, another worker appears with a sander, turns it on and follows the first smoothing out the edges, a third follows with a dust rag and wipes away the sawdust making the table shineÂ…..
There now I am more comfortable. Now I feel like I am back at home. I invite you all, join around this table my friends and letÂ’s celebrate our freedom from nicotine and prepare ourselves to continue our battle each and every day. My word to you is that I will stand in this fight against nicotine right beside you.
I am embarking on a personal quest over the next 7 days and 7 nights, it will be a time for much introspection, to re-find my way, so I will most likely not be around very much, but my table here is for you to use, for squires to ask questions, to celebrate tales of you victories and as I return I will have more tales and recollections to rejoice in.
Be honorable and quit my friends
You are an amazing person, Derek. Resigning a position you are proud of and good at takes a lot of thought and is not easy. Quitting is a daily part of your life along with helping others (like me). I hope that everyone that reads this can show you the respect you deserve and thank you for your time as a chat mod/mod instead of run you into the ground over your difficult decision.
I'm proud to call you friend and will support you and your decisions weather I agree with them or not. Thank you, Derek, for all of your hard work and dedication! I know you will continue to help others as it is not in you to just sit back and not help, title or no title!
:wub:
Sorry to see you step down, Derek. It's our loss, for sure.
SirDerek, sorry to see you leave. I'm 139 days quit today and you are part of the reason that after 33 years I was able to be quit. You will be missed, but hopefully we will see you here once in awhile. BTW, congrats on two years quit...an amazing accomplishment!
mb289
mb - I can assure you that you haven't seen the last of SirDerek, if you don't get you knightly fix feel free to swing by October 12 to post roll with Derek, there are a few other quitters that like to see fresh quit on roll in October too!
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I have returned....
ok well I really never went anywhere, other that out to nature to boy scout camp, but I tell you a week away really puts things into a bit of perspective.
Now My original plan was to skip posting roll for the week. I wanted the isolation. Now before the bashing commences let me explain. Yes this was an experiment. It was something I needed to take at this point in my quit, to see (1) how I would react, and (2) how it can be that some drift away. And knowing that I had nothing packed and was going to the boy scout camp and saying that word daily was as safest in that manner as possible.
I will say that during that day I can see that, even after 2 years, the not posting does keep that door open. I think I tore through so many toothpicks...
Well the experiment failed after one day, or maybe would say was successful. You see after 1 day, where I knew I missing posting, I could not stop thinking about my friends and some who I call family here, and that if not for me, but for my roll post to help them out. Maybe it is me but that is the tug I was feeling (even though I had texted a few of them just to chat). I did not want to let others down by not posting...
So to all you that may read this, I can only encourage you to experience the full capability that this site is trying to teach you. Post the roll to give your promise, Let your word be seen so that others may see it to help them out, make those couple of friends to that if not roll you actually think of the real people that are here.
So for now moving forward you will see my name on that roll in Oct12, join us there in a solid group of some of the greatest brothers and sisters that I have met. I will also be around to help you.
be good and I will have more to come of what I realized out there....
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I have returned....
ok well I really never went anywhere, other that out to nature to boy scout camp, but I tell you a week away really puts things into a bit of perspective.
Now My original plan was to skip posting roll for the week. I wanted the isolation. Now before the bashing commences let me explain. Yes this was an experiment. It was something I needed to take at this point in my quit, to see (1) how I would react, and (2) how it can be that some drift away. And knowing that I had nothing packed and was going to the boy scout camp and saying that word daily was as safest in that manner as possible.
I will say that during that day I can see that, even after 2 years, the not posting does keep that door open. I think I tore through so many toothpicks...
Well the experiment failed after one day, or maybe would say was successful. You see after 1 day, where I knew I missing posting, I could not stop thinking about my friends and some who I call family here, and that if not for me, but for my roll post to help them out. Maybe it is me but that is the tug I was feeling (even though I had texted a few of them just to chat). I did not want to let others down by not posting...
So to all you that may read this, I can only encourage you to experience the full capability that this site is trying to teach you. Post the roll to give your promise, Let your word be seen so that others may see it to help them out, make those couple of friends to that if not roll you actually think of the real people that are here.
So for now moving forward you will see my name on that roll in Oct12, join us there in a solid group of some of the greatest brothers and sisters that I have met. I will also be around to help you.
be good and I will have more to come of what I realized out there....
You were missed!
I tried the skipping roll thing too once. For about 16 hours. Never again Derek.
Glad you had a good trip.
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Day 743 -
Challenging yourself and seeing it through
Here is another aspect I came to realize over the week away, and I think has a great link to that of quitting.
As I sat as a leader, watching the young scouts throughout the week open their mind learning new things, I though wow what a challenge they are putting themselves through. Whether it be for earning the Merit Badges or the other Rank requirements, they would be learning skills that will help them throughout life.
For me I also put myself through a challenge, this one on the physical side. I went through the week in preparation to do the mile swim on the Friday. Each day I spent 30 minutes in the pool building up the strength, the ability to show that I would be able to make it. I do have to say I was nervous. I had never done anything like this before as I was never an endurance athlete. I kept cracking jokes to release my tension throughout the week. But with pushing myself I began it on the Friday, with 4 other boys (my son included). When I heard the lifeguard who was counting yell out half-way for me I was just about done, and almost stopped as was exhausted and thought that I was further than that. But I pushed on lap after lap. I kept thinking about how good it was going to feel for myself to finish. About how I had made a commitment to myself to do this. And finally after what I found out was over 37 minutes, I finished....was an amazing feeling.
Well let's look at what we do here. We come here to quit, that is our challenge. We have all of those who have laid a path before us, with all of the knowledge that has been built up throughout the years and posted for others to read, those are the books and requirements for how to get this challenge done. We have the words of encouragement as we go through the quit whether it be in the live chat, through the personal messages or even texts and phone calls. As we progress we learn these tools from the site and others that we put into practice as the days pass by. We always peek ahead to certain milestones but we still handle it day by day. We also then put our word on that roll each day, and that is our commitment to getting it done each and every day.
I am sure that everyone has had a challenge, whether big or small, where you can reflect and see how similar you can relate it to quitting.
So as I can relate, yes Quitting is one of the most challenging of things to do, but when you are successful it is so rewarding it almost goes without words. And to prove that, just look at the company that we are with for all of those who stand side by side with you and call you friend or family.
Be good my friends and family.
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Day 743 -
Challenging yourself and seeing it through
Here is another aspect I came to realize over the week away, and I think has a great link to that of quitting.
As I sat as a leader, watching the young scouts throughout the week open their mind learning new things, I though wow what a challenge they are putting themselves through. Whether it be for earning the Merit Badges or the other Rank requirements, they would be learning skills that will help them throughout life.
For me I also put myself through a challenge, this one on the physical side. I went through the week in preparation to do the mile swim on the Friday. Each day I spent 30 minutes in the pool building up the strength, the ability to show that I would be able to make it. I do have to say I was nervous. I had never done anything like this before as I was never an endurance athlete. I kept cracking jokes to release my tension throughout the week. But with pushing myself I began it on the Friday, with 4 other boys (my son included). When I heard the lifeguard who was counting yell out half-way for me I was just about done, and almost stopped as was exhausted and thought that I was further than that. But I pushed on lap after lap. I kept thinking about how good it was going to feel for myself to finish. About how I had made a commitment to myself to do this. And finally after what I found out was over 37 minutes, I finished....was an amazing feeling.
Well let's look at what we do here. We come here to quit, that is our challenge. We have all of those who have laid a path before us, with all of the knowledge that has been built up throughout the years and posted for others to read, those are the books and requirements for how to get this challenge done. We have the words of encouragement as we go through the quit whether it be in the live chat, through the personal messages or even texts and phone calls. As we progress we learn these tools from the site and others that we put into practice as the days pass by. We always peek ahead to certain milestones but we still handle it day by day. We also then put our word on that roll each day, and that is our commitment to getting it done each and every day.
I am sure that everyone has had a challenge, whether big or small, where you can reflect and see how similar you can relate it to quitting.
So as I can relate, yes Quitting is one of the most challenging of things to do, but when you are successful it is so rewarding it almost goes without words. And to prove that, just look at the company that we are with for all of those who stand side by side with you and call you friend or family.
Be good my friends and family.
Welcome back to civilization oh knighted one. Glad to hear that not only did you complete the mile swim but you complete it along side your son. That is truly awesome.
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I have returned....
ok well I really never went anywhere, other that out to nature to boy scout camp, but I tell you a week away really puts things into a bit of perspective.
Now My original plan was to skip posting roll for the week. I wanted the isolation. Now before the bashing commences let me explain. Yes this was an experiment. It was something I needed to take at this point in my quit, to see (1) how I would react, and (2) how it can be that some drift away. And knowing that I had nothing packed and was going to the boy scout camp and saying that word daily was as safest in that manner as possible.
I will say that during that day I can see that, even after 2 years, the not posting does keep that door open. I think I tore through so many toothpicks...
Well the experiment failed after one day, or maybe would say was successful. You see after 1 day, where I knew I missing posting, I could not stop thinking about my friends and some who I call family here, and that if not for me, but for my roll post to help them out. Maybe it is me but that is the tug I was feeling (even though I had texted a few of them just to chat). I did not want to let others down by not posting...
So to all you that may read this, I can only encourage you to experience the full capability that this site is trying to teach you. Post the roll to give your promise, Let your word be seen so that others may see it to help them out, make those couple of friends to that if not roll you actually think of the real people that are here.
So for now moving forward you will see my name on that roll in Oct12, join us there in a solid group of some of the greatest brothers and sisters that I have met. I will also be around to help you.
be good and I will have more to come of what I realized out there....
You were missed!
I tried the skipping roll thing too once. For about 16 hours. Never again Derek.
Glad you had a good trip.
Yea, not really sure what you accomplished here.
Hopefully the lesson learned is posting roll is THAT important.
I don't need to test myself away from here. It's too important, too easy, and too much of a privelege. I'll never look for a reason to leave.
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I have returned....
ok well I really never went anywhere, other that out to nature to boy scout camp, but I tell you a week away really puts things into a bit of perspective.
Now My original plan was to skip posting roll for the week. I wanted the isolation. Now before the bashing commences let me explain. Yes this was an experiment. It was something I needed to take at this point in my quit, to see (1) how I would react, and (2) how it can be that some drift away. And knowing that I had nothing packed and was going to the boy scout camp and saying that word daily was as safest in that manner as possible.
I will say that during that day I can see that, even after 2 years, the not posting does keep that door open. I think I tore through so many toothpicks...
Well the experiment failed after one day, or maybe would say was successful. You see after 1 day, where I knew I missing posting, I could not stop thinking about my friends and some who I call family here, and that if not for me, but for my roll post to help them out. Maybe it is me but that is the tug I was feeling (even though I had texted a few of them just to chat). I did not want to let others down by not posting...
So to all you that may read this, I can only encourage you to experience the full capability that this site is trying to teach you. Post the roll to give your promise, Let your word be seen so that others may see it to help them out, make those couple of friends to that if not roll you actually think of the real people that are here.
So for now moving forward you will see my name on that roll in Oct12, join us there in a solid group of some of the greatest brothers and sisters that I have met. I will also be around to help you.
be good and I will have more to come of what I realized out there....
You were missed!
I tried the skipping roll thing too once. For about 16 hours. Never again Derek.
Glad you had a good trip.
Yea, not really sure what you accomplished here.
Hopefully the lesson learned is posting roll is THAT important.
I don't need to test myself away from here. It's too important, too easy, and too much of a privelege. I'll never look for a reason to leave.
I have 1312 units of quit under my belt. Lesson learned? That NOLAQ's signature could not be more true. Posting roll is not a burden, it's a privilege. See ya tomorrow.
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Well a little storm that has brought and all because of a request by a quitter to post what I had written in my intro (to which there was not much said about it) and copy it into a HOF group (to which brings me needing to post this).
KTC - by the quitter, for the quitter. Everything built, everything written is by quitters for others to learn from the experiences that have happened. There is even a whole what to expect section for those first 100 days and what it will be like for the journey. There is a section for alternatives with reviews done by quitters. There is also tons of support and information written: about ninja and opening up to your loved ones, about anxiety and depression, exercise options and much more.
Well, for me, my Oct12 Brothers knew where I was going to be and they had my word previously (not online each day). My castle has been built up to 7 stories tall and is solid from the knowledge that I have obtained from those who I have walked the path behind. My armor is forged from the greatest of metals and equipped with a great amount of tools that I have learned right here. On the wall of my castle is that Quit Plan that I have sworn to myself to follow to my death before giving in to the poisonous weed. That Boy Scout Oath is one of the reasons I quit in the first place, so I was not going to dis-honor that. Before this there was only 1 day in 2 years that was missed, so there is no burden felt here about posting. There is no special butterfly here, just a simple knight willing to put himself in harms way for the benefit of others.
There was a lot of discussion lately on the site about the need for posting roll. It was in the intros and in the wildcard section. But I had never seen anything written about it. Nothing concrete that could be passed along to the HOF quitter. So I felt it was time to provide some material for what to expect to those who would be thinking of leaving after their 100 days. And yes, I took it upon myself to try and give them an idea of what they should feel should they drift away from their friends who have supported them. This was done so that the others can see and therefore should not test themselves as to what they would go through.
If what I have written, if what I have provided has helped no one in the least bit, then I will apologize. However if what I have done, sows a seed in someone who will stick around for a longer period of time and help with this community, then I would have fulfilled my quest. And it would have been totally worth it. And I would do it again with no questions asked or without any hesitation. Yes I will fall on my sword for the benefit of otherÂ’s lives here at KTC.
You will find me on roll as I have been for so long. You will find me continuing to provide help to the newer quitters as I have always done. But for now I think I will retire to that round table found in Oct12, I have a little buffing that is needed to a couple of places on my armor that I cannot reach as I am wearing it. Come and join me if you will, just leave the weapons outside of the castle.
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Well a little storm that has brought and all because of a request by a quitter to post what I had written in my intro (to which there was not much said about it) and copy it into a HOF group (to which brings me needing to post this).
KTC - by the quitter, for the quitter. Everything built, everything written is by quitters for others to learn from the experiences that have happened. There is even a whole what to expect section for those first 100 days and what it will be like for the journey. There is a section for alternatives with reviews done by quitters. There is also tons of support and information written: about ninja and opening up to your loved ones, about anxiety and depression, exercise options and much more.
Well, for me, my Oct12 Brothers knew where I was going to be and they had my word previously (not online each day). My castle has been built up to 7 stories tall and is solid from the knowledge that I have obtained from those who I have walked the path behind. My armor is forged from the greatest of metals and equipped with a great amount of tools that I have learned right here. On the wall of my castle is that Quit Plan that I have sworn to myself to follow to my death before giving in to the poisonous weed. That Boy Scout Oath is one of the reasons I quit in the first place, so I was not going to dis-honor that. Before this there was only 1 day in 2 years that was missed, so there is no burden felt here about posting. There is no special butterfly here, just a simple knight willing to put himself in harms way for the benefit of others.
There was a lot of discussion lately on the site about the need for posting roll. It was in the intros and in the wildcard section. But I had never seen anything written about it. Nothing concrete that could be passed along to the HOF quitter. So I felt it was time to provide some material for what to expect to those who would be thinking of leaving after their 100 days. And yes, I took it upon myself to try and give them an idea of what they should feel should they drift away from their friends who have supported them. This was done so that the others can see and therefore should not test themselves as to what they would go through.
If what I have written, if what I have provided has helped no one in the least bit, then I will apologize. However if what I have done, sows a seed in someone who will stick around for a longer period of time and help with this community, then I would have fulfilled my quest. And it would have been totally worth it. And I would do it again with no questions asked or without any hesitation. Yes I will fall on my sword for the benefit of otherÂ’s lives here at KTC.
You will find me on roll as I have been for so long. You will find me continuing to provide help to the newer quitters as I have always done. But for now I think I will retire to that round table found in Oct12, I have a little buffing that is needed to a couple of places on my armor that I cannot reach as I am wearing it. Come and join me if you will, just leave the weapons outside of the castle.
As always, Derek, dignity and grace. No name calling. No bullying. Just QUIT! I am proud to sit with you at that Oct 12 "round table" you speak of.
You of all people know how important your word is and are a true man of integrity. You are genuine and have helped so many here on KTC. I personally THANK YOU for that.
I appreciate what you attempted to do here, my friend. It's unfortunate some people cannot see that you, along with others here, really do have the best interest of everyone's QUIT at heart with everything you post.
**You guys might want to stop attacking quitters of Derek's caliber just for the sake of arguing. It's becoming a bad habit. Go back and read what was written with the attitude that Derek is making the point that even though his quit was secure, he still felt a void without the site. Nothing more. Nothing less. You are working on losing more strong quitters/supporters due to your negative attitudes. Just QUIT already!
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Well a little storm that has brought and all because of a request by a quitter to post what I had written in my intro (to which there was not much said about it) and copy it into a HOF group (to which brings me needing to post this).
KTC - by the quitter, for the quitter. Everything built, everything written is by quitters for others to learn from the experiences that have happened. There is even a whole what to expect section for those first 100 days and what it will be like for the journey. There is a section for alternatives with reviews done by quitters. There is also tons of support and information written: about ninja and opening up to your loved ones, about anxiety and depression, exercise options and much more.
Well, for me, my Oct12 Brothers knew where I was going to be and they had my word previously (not online each day). My castle has been built up to 7 stories tall and is solid from the knowledge that I have obtained from those who I have walked the path behind. My armor is forged from the greatest of metals and equipped with a great amount of tools that I have learned right here. On the wall of my castle is that Quit Plan that I have sworn to myself to follow to my death before giving in to the poisonous weed. That Boy Scout Oath is one of the reasons I quit in the first place, so I was not going to dis-honor that. Before this there was only 1 day in 2 years that was missed, so there is no burden felt here about posting. There is no special butterfly here, just a simple knight willing to put himself in harms way for the benefit of others.
There was a lot of discussion lately on the site about the need for posting roll. It was in the intros and in the wildcard section. But I had never seen anything written about it. Nothing concrete that could be passed along to the HOF quitter. So I felt it was time to provide some material for what to expect to those who would be thinking of leaving after their 100 days. And yes, I took it upon myself to try and give them an idea of what they should feel should they drift away from their friends who have supported them. This was done so that the others can see and therefore should not test themselves as to what they would go through.
If what I have written, if what I have provided has helped no one in the least bit, then I will apologize. However if what I have done, sows a seed in someone who will stick around for a longer period of time and help with this community, then I would have fulfilled my quest. And it would have been totally worth it. And I would do it again with no questions asked or without any hesitation. Yes I will fall on my sword for the benefit of otherÂ’s lives here at KTC.
You will find me on roll as I have been for so long. You will find me continuing to provide help to the newer quitters as I have always done. But for now I think I will retire to that round table found in Oct12, I have a little buffing that is needed to a couple of places on my armor that I cannot reach as I am wearing it. Come and join me if you will, just leave the weapons outside of the castle.
As always, Derek, dignity and grace. No name calling. No bullying. Just QUIT! I am proud to sit with you at that Oct 12 "round table" you speak of.
You of all people know how important your word is and are a true man of integrity. You are genuine and have helped so many here on KTC. I personally THANK YOU for that.
I appreciate what you attempted to do here, my friend. It's unfortunate some people cannot see that you, along with others here, really do have the best interest of everyone's QUIT at heart with everything you post.
**You guys might want to stop attacking quitters of Derek's caliber just for the sake of arguing. It's becoming a bad habit. Go back and read what was written with the attitude that Derek is making the point that even though his quit was secure, he still felt a void without the site. Nothing more. Nothing less. You are working on losing more strong quitters/supporters due to your negative attitudes. Just QUIT already!
SD, consider your quest fulfilled my friend. You're one of the most upstanding guys around. I value your knowledge and wisdom, your values, your friendship, and leadership. Damn proud to be quit with such a fine man such as yourself. You've not only brighten my day but made my quit stronger than ever!
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Well a little storm that has brought and all because of a request by a quitter to post what I had written in my intro (to which there was not much said about it) and copy it into a HOF group (to which brings me needing to post this).
KTC - by the quitter, for the quitter. Everything built, everything written is by quitters for others to learn from the experiences that have happened. There is even a whole what to expect section for those first 100 days and what it will be like for the journey. There is a section for alternatives with reviews done by quitters. There is also tons of support and information written: about ninja and opening up to your loved ones, about anxiety and depression, exercise options and much more.
Well, for me, my Oct12 Brothers knew where I was going to be and they had my word previously (not online each day). My castle has been built up to 7 stories tall and is solid from the knowledge that I have obtained from those who I have walked the path behind. My armor is forged from the greatest of metals and equipped with a great amount of tools that I have learned right here. On the wall of my castle is that Quit Plan that I have sworn to myself to follow to my death before giving in to the poisonous weed. That Boy Scout Oath is one of the reasons I quit in the first place, so I was not going to dis-honor that. Before this there was only 1 day in 2 years that was missed, so there is no burden felt here about posting. There is no special butterfly here, just a simple knight willing to put himself in harms way for the benefit of others.
There was a lot of discussion lately on the site about the need for posting roll. It was in the intros and in the wildcard section. But I had never seen anything written about it. Nothing concrete that could be passed along to the HOF quitter. So I felt it was time to provide some material for what to expect to those who would be thinking of leaving after their 100 days. And yes, I took it upon myself to try and give them an idea of what they should feel should they drift away from their friends who have supported them. This was done so that the others can see and therefore should not test themselves as to what they would go through.
If what I have written, if what I have provided has helped no one in the least bit, then I will apologize. However if what I have done, sows a seed in someone who will stick around for a longer period of time and help with this community, then I would have fulfilled my quest. And it would have been totally worth it. And I would do it again with no questions asked or without any hesitation. Yes I will fall on my sword for the benefit of otherÂ’s lives here at KTC.
You will find me on roll as I have been for so long. You will find me continuing to provide help to the newer quitters as I have always done. But for now I think I will retire to that round table found in Oct12, I have a little buffing that is needed to a couple of places on my armor that I cannot reach as I am wearing it. Come and join me if you will, just leave the weapons outside of the castle.
As always, Derek, dignity and grace. No name calling. No bullying. Just QUIT! I am proud to sit with you at that Oct 12 "round table" you speak of.
You of all people know how important your word is and are a true man of integrity. You are genuine and have helped so many here on KTC. I personally THANK YOU for that.
I appreciate what you attempted to do here, my friend. It's unfortunate some people cannot see that you, along with others here, really do have the best interest of everyone's QUIT at heart with everything you post.
**You guys might want to stop attacking quitters of Derek's caliber just for the sake of arguing. It's becoming a bad habit. Go back and read what was written with the attitude that Derek is making the point that even though his quit was secure, he still felt a void without the site. Nothing more. Nothing less. You are working on losing more strong quitters/supporters due to your negative attitudes. Just QUIT already!
SD, consider your quest fulfilled my friend. You're one of the most upstanding guys around. I value your knowledge and wisdom, your values, your friendship, and leadership. Damn proud to be quit with such a fine man such as yourself. You've not only brighten my day but made my quit stronger than ever!
Hello Derek,
I do not doubt the intentions of your post nor the integrity of your quit.
However, I do seriously question the logic of your experiment.
If I wanted to show a new group that Russian Roulette was dangerous,
I would not point the gun to my head to make the point.
All we need to do to show that posting roll is serious and important business
is to model it ourselves and show that successful quitters follow this one key rule.
If you carefully think about what you wrote, you will see that it can be interpreted
both positively and negatively. Those who responded critically saw the potential
negative impact and reacted accordingly.
It was the idea and its implications that was attacked; not your person.
Keddy
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Well a little storm that has brought and all because of a request by a quitter to post what I had written in my intro (to which there was not much said about it) and copy it into a HOF group (to which brings me needing to post this).
KTC - by the quitter, for the quitter. Everything built, everything written is by quitters for others to learn from the experiences that have happened. There is even a whole what to expect section for those first 100 days and what it will be like for the journey. There is a section for alternatives with reviews done by quitters. There is also tons of support and information written: about ninja and opening up to your loved ones, about anxiety and depression, exercise options and much more.
Well, for me, my Oct12 Brothers knew where I was going to be and they had my word previously (not online each day). My castle has been built up to 7 stories tall and is solid from the knowledge that I have obtained from those who I have walked the path behind. My armor is forged from the greatest of metals and equipped with a great amount of tools that I have learned right here. On the wall of my castle is that Quit Plan that I have sworn to myself to follow to my death before giving in to the poisonous weed. That Boy Scout Oath is one of the reasons I quit in the first place, so I was not going to dis-honor that. Before this there was only 1 day in 2 years that was missed, so there is no burden felt here about posting. There is no special butterfly here, just a simple knight willing to put himself in harms way for the benefit of others.
There was a lot of discussion lately on the site about the need for posting roll. It was in the intros and in the wildcard section. But I had never seen anything written about it. Nothing concrete that could be passed along to the HOF quitter. So I felt it was time to provide some material for what to expect to those who would be thinking of leaving after their 100 days. And yes, I took it upon myself to try and give them an idea of what they should feel should they drift away from their friends who have supported them. This was done so that the others can see and therefore should not test themselves as to what they would go through.
If what I have written, if what I have provided has helped no one in the least bit, then I will apologize. However if what I have done, sows a seed in someone who will stick around for a longer period of time and help with this community, then I would have fulfilled my quest. And it would have been totally worth it. And I would do it again with no questions asked or without any hesitation. Yes I will fall on my sword for the benefit of otherÂ’s lives here at KTC.
You will find me on roll as I have been for so long. You will find me continuing to provide help to the newer quitters as I have always done. But for now I think I will retire to that round table found in Oct12, I have a little buffing that is needed to a couple of places on my armor that I cannot reach as I am wearing it. Come and join me if you will, just leave the weapons outside of the castle.
As always, Derek, dignity and grace. No name calling. No bullying. Just QUIT! I am proud to sit with you at that Oct 12 "round table" you speak of.
You of all people know how important your word is and are a true man of integrity. You are genuine and have helped so many here on KTC. I personally THANK YOU for that.
I appreciate what you attempted to do here, my friend. It's unfortunate some people cannot see that you, along with others here, really do have the best interest of everyone's QUIT at heart with everything you post.
**You guys might want to stop attacking quitters of Derek's caliber just for the sake of arguing. It's becoming a bad habit. Go back and read what was written with the attitude that Derek is making the point that even though his quit was secure, he still felt a void without the site. Nothing more. Nothing less. You are working on losing more strong quitters/supporters due to your negative attitudes. Just QUIT already!
SD, consider your quest fulfilled my friend. You're one of the most upstanding guys around. I value your knowledge and wisdom, your values, your friendship, and leadership. Damn proud to be quit with such a fine man such as yourself. You've not only brighten my day but made my quit stronger than ever!
Hello Derek,
I do not doubt the intentions of your post nor the integrity of your quit.
However, I do seriously question the logic of your experiment.
If I wanted to show a new group that Russian Roulette was dangerous,
I would not point the gun to my head to make the point.
All we need to do to show that posting roll is serious and important business
is to model it ourselves and show that successful quitters follow this one key rule.
If you carefully think about what you wrote, you will see that it can be interpreted
both positively and negatively. Those who responded critically saw the potential
negative impact and reacted accordingly.
It was the idea and its implications that was attacked; not your person.
Keddy
Derek,
I agree with keddy. It isn't anything personal. I DO see the point you were trying to make- that you should post roll. However, skipping rollcall as an experiment? I am not on board with that. So many have tried that experiment when they thought they were ready and ended up coming back, red faced posting a day 1. Those are the ones that we know about. I am sure there are countless others that are still stuffing their jaws with cancer candy.
The great thing about the KTC way of quitting is that it works as written. Post Roll... Honor your promise, repeat. No need to experiment with a system that works.
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Well I had another couple of items but thoughts are not clear right now as how to pen them.
So I have sent Merlin away, no more tales, no more stories, no more magic, no more experiments.
I will return to my castle in Oct12, will focus on sharpening my tools, fortifying its base and structure.
The drawbridge is down, and the table is always available for those who need help or just was to chat.
My hand is open, for those who want it for help.
Be good my friends and thanks.
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SD, consider your quest fulfilled my friend. You're one of the most upstanding guys around. I value your knowledge and wisdom, your values, your friendship, and leadership. Damn proud to be quit with such a fine man such as yourself. You've not only brighten my day but made my quit stronger than ever!
^^^^^Zzzzzzzzzzzz.......Can see right through this....throwing up posts when things get semi-controversial about a certain conflict from the end of June. I dont remember you posting any support on Sirderek's intro page when his Anniversary date came and passed. I could have missed it though. Yawn.
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I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.
Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.
I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.
Proud to be quit with you today sir.
Keep on quittin on.
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I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.
Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.
I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.
Proud to be quit with you today sir.
Keep on quittin on.
Agreed. Roll is essential. I've seen way less people cave posting roll than people who think it is not essential. I am proud of every damn one of you for posting roll and quitting with me today.
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I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.
Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.
I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.
Proud to be quit with you today sir.
Keep on quittin on.
Agreed. Roll is essential. I've seen way less people cave posting roll than people who think it is not essential. I am proud of every damn one of you for posting roll and quitting with me today.
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I think the point has been made and we are all on the same page. Maybe posting about the vacation from roll posting "experiment" it in a newer group wasn't the best thing but the conclusion reinforced why we need to be here everyday be it 100 days, 1,000 days, or 2,00 days. I met a retread quitter yesterday in the chatroom that stopped/quit in early 2008 and would have had more days now than myself, but he chose to stop posting roll and drifted away and caved. I think his name is shortstack. He said he was mad at himself for wasting 5 or 6 more years of his life being a slave to a poisonous plant and is back as a "new" quitter.
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I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.
Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.
I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.
Proud to be quit with you today sir.
Keep on quittin on.
Agreed. Roll is essential. I've seen way less people cave posting roll than people who think it is not essential. I am proud of every damn one of you for posting roll and quitting with me today.
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I think the point has been made and we are all on the same page. Maybe posting about the vacation from roll posting "experiment" it in a newer group wasn't the best thing but the conclusion reinforced why we need to be here everyday be it 100 days, 1,000 days, or 2,00 days. I met a retread quitter yesterday in the chatroom that stopped/quit in early 2008 and would have had more days now than myself, but he chose to stop posting roll and drifted away and caved. I think his name is shortstack. He said he was mad at himself for wasting 5 or 6 more years of his life being a slave to a poisonous plant and is back as a "new" quitter.
Posting Roll works.
SD works works hard.
We all work ODAAT to "be quit", period
Every a.m. I wake, I remember my Day1, post roll thinking about everyone on here. Old, new, ugly, good, mean, friendly...don't matter cause as a group you have helped me not put the poison in my mouth for another Day.
SD is a rock star of quit.
I quit with You today and any other day that ends with a Y.
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Well I had another couple of items but thoughts are not clear right now as how to pen them.
So I have sent Merlin away, no more tales, no more stories, no more magic, no more experiments.
I will return to my castle in Oct12, will focus on sharpening my tools, fortifying its base and structure.
The drawbridge is down, and the table is always available for those who need help or just was to chat.
My hand is open, for those who want it for help.
Be good my friends and thanks.
Thank you all, you have given me a lot to think about,
wanted to bump this from above in case you would be looking for me (of course can also find me often in the chat room)
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I THINK what Derek was trying to explain was that his experiment showed him the power / importance of roll.
Regardless of how long you've been quit, how fresh your quit is... it's the backbone of what brings us to together and makes us successful.
I don't personally think that posting that experiment in a group so close the HOF was necessarily the best idea as they might miss the message and only see "experimenting is OK". However, I I also don't think Derek was doing anything but trying to explain the point that what he realized... Even at 700+ days, roll is and will continue to be of paramount importance.
Proud to be quit with you today sir.
Keep on quittin on.
That's right, it is the "backbone" of what brings us together. Without a "backbone" I guess that just makes us.... spineless.
Proud to be quit another day with you SD.
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The True Enemy-
Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.
I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.
So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.
The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.
But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.
I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.
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The True Enemy-
Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.
I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.
So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.
The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.
But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.
I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.
Your story tonight rings a tone. I thank god every day for Ktc and guys (and gals ) like you.
Fuck high blood pressure. Fuck high cholesterol. Fuck nicotine.
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The True Enemy-
Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.
I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.
So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.
The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.
But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.
I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.
Your story tonight rings a tone. I thank god every day for Ktc and guys (and gals ) like you.
Fuck high blood pressure. Fuck high cholesterol. Fuck nicotine.
Awesome and heartfelt Derek.....proud to be quit with you.
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The True Enemy-
Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.
I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.
So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.
The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.
But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.
I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.
Your story tonight rings a tone. I thank god every day for Ktc and guys (and gals ) like you.
Fuck high blood pressure. Fuck high cholesterol. Fuck nicotine.
Awesome and heartfelt Derek.....proud to be quit with you.
As usual very well written Derek. I thank you for your selflessness nature and your willingness to help others.
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The True Enemy-
Well this one was a difficult one to post as this really had me look deep inside as I have reflected on my last two years of quit.
I still remember late June 2012 coming out of the doctorÂ’s office, scripts for high blood pressure and cholesterol meds, with another appointment scheduled in 3months, and looking in the car mirror. I think that was the tipping point and when I through a dip in before driving away, the look again in the mirror I believe I saw that enemy.
So I had a few days of online searching as well as really looking at myself. And truly did not like what I was. At that time I finally decided to quit. The date was July 2, 2012 and I called my wife and sons into the bathroom while I flushed the last tin I had. It felt good. And again I felt that enemy that I was going to have to fight.
The next day I joined KTC as a member, and posted roll. I learned the tools that brought me the accountability that I needed each day, it brought me the brotherhood that has stood all around me throughout my days, and it has brought me success for over 2 years now. And yes from time to time I still felt that enemy hanging around me and even saw his reflection at times, but life was truly becoming good as a free man.
But I can see now that the True Enemy will never go away, that it will never be defeated. It can roar its head at any time and from any direction. I just need to be ready, be prepared with my armor and my tools for when he appears, because when he does, I will follow my quit plan and make the right decision at that time.
I hope that this can help others, as the reflection helps me. See you at the round table.
Your story tonight rings a tone. I thank god every day for Ktc and guys (and gals ) like you.
Fuck high blood pressure. Fuck high cholesterol. Fuck nicotine.
Awesome and heartfelt Derek.....proud to be quit with you.
As usual very well written Derek. I thank you for your selflessness nature and your willingness to help others.
Derek, you're the man. Loved that you flushed the can with your family. Great lesson for your kids.
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Going to pull on a little favorite of mine as I sit in my castle this evening with the campfire settling down from its initial roar. Those that know I am a boy scout leader and just feel this is a great time to have this one as yes it is for scouts but with only a couple of words replaced can really apply to what we do here.
So if you will join in (for those of you that may not know it, it is to the tune of "Oh Christmas tree"
Scout Vespers
Softly falls the light of day,
While our campfire fades away.
Silently each Scout should ask quitter
Have I done my daily task? did I post roll early this morning
Have I kept my honor bright? did I keep my word
Can I guiltless sleep tonight?
Have I done and have I dared
Everything to be prepared?is my quit plan in place
have a great evening everyone and make sure you hit that roll bright and early.
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Sorry but a lot going through my mind lately but this one was going through my head as I was falling asleep last night:
"As you honor your word, life itself becomes much more precious"
not sure why I had this repeating but how true to me it is. I mean look at what we get back when we keep our daily word: food and drink tastes so much better, our health improves, we gain back time with our loved ones, we gain a little extra bulge in the wallet, and it has brought together a whole new family and friends.
Does it really get any better than that?
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Sorry but a lot going through my mind lately but this one was going through my head as I was falling asleep last night:
"As you honor your word, life itself becomes much more precious"
not sure why I had this repeating but how true to me it is. I mean look at what we get back when we keep our daily word: food and drink tastes so much better, our health improves, we gain back time with our loved ones, we gain a little extra bulge in the wallet, and it has brought together a whole new family and friends.
Does it really get any better than that?
Good stuff SD.
I quit with You Today.
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Day 750
Well three-quarters way to the Hall of Legends, another great milestone for me to target. And just cannot believe it still. But I wanted to again state thank you and to look at answering a question in a little different way. When we quit we get asked a lot of questions as to why we quit. And I have answered and asked them time and time again, but from another perspective, I wanted to list out “What I have Gained”, since I quit:
So Since I have quit:
- Yes the top item is that I have kept nicotine from my body for these 750 days. That means none of that poison has been introduced into this body since I quit
Now in of itself, that would be a tremendous benefit, but this has only been the base, really only a small portion of what I have gained. Here is more of this list that I think many have also encountered along this journey.
- I have gained the honor of keeping my word and not lying to those around me. For how long did we lie day in and day out for when we were trying to quit. So I have definitely gained back a large chunk of my integrity.
- I have gained a sense of smell and taste to where food, drink and natures pleasures are so much sweeter now a days since I do not have it masked by that horrendous odor.
- I have gained my health. Now with this comes 2-fold as the exercise program that I am currently using (DDPYoga) was introduced to me by Sox2012 from the Sept 12 group. So before quitting I was on blood pressure meds with a BP 160/90 and during my first 100 days I put on close to 35 pounds getting close to 300, not my heaviest but was not in good shape. Well I have regained that, I no longer use the meds, BP is down to around 125/80, I am at less than 250 pounds, and feel like I am in the best physical shape of my life. So I would say that learning one thing here gave me the confidence to improve in this area.
- I have gained a little bit of a bulging pocketbook. Yes the dollars saved, though may not have been as much as some others, it has lead me to treating myself to a few items as a reward.
- I have gained time. Here is one that has also had a great impact. No more searching for more, running out to the store, or the time spent trying to get the next fix. But also the time spent away from my loved ones as I separated myself, even if mentally while in the same room. The time running to the bathroom to rid myself of it before eatingÂ….just amazing what recollecting a few minutes a day can do.
- I have also gained the anywhere/anytime for those special moments with the wife, where she can kiss me whenever she wants.
- And finally off the top of my head, I have gained the best friends and extended family a person could ask for. As yes, any here would reach out their hand to help support me in my quit, but when that extends to real life, where now I feel that I can go just about anywhere in the United States and have a meal, have a drink, or enjoy the company, now that is something special that I never expected. Where I can pick up the phone and call any one of many people just to talk, it truly a blessing.
So as you can see, some of the items on this list were on my list of initial reasons for quitting, but when you look back on it, there is the ability to gain so much more than you expect, and I am sure there are others that have more than what I have listed here.
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Day 750
Well three-quarters way to the Hall of Legends, another great milestone for me to target. And just cannot believe it still. But I wanted to again state thank you and to look at answering a question in a little different way. When we quit we get asked a lot of questions as to why we quit. And I have answered and asked them time and time again, but from another perspective, I wanted to list out “What I have Gained”, since I quit:
So Since I have quit:
-Yes the top item is that I have kept nicotine from my body for these 750 days. That means none of that poison has been introduced into this body since I quit
Now in of itself, that would be a tremendous benefit, but this has only been the base, really only a small portion of what I have gained. Here is more of this list that I think many have also encountered along this journey.
-I have gained the honor of keeping my word and not lying to those around me. For how long did we lie day in and day out for when we were trying to quit. So I have definitely gained back a large chunk of my integrity.
-I have gained a sense of smell and taste to where food, drink and natures pleasures are so much sweeter now a days since I do not have it masked by that horrendous odor.
-I have gained my health. Now with this comes 2-fold as the exercise program that I am currently using (DDPYoga) was introduced to me by Sox2012 from the Sept 12 group. So before quitting I was on blood pressure meds with a BP 160/90 and during my first 100 days I put on close to 35 pounds getting close to 300, not my heaviest but was not in good shape. Well I have regained that, I no longer use the meds, BP is down to around 125/80, I am at less than 250 pounds, and feel like I am in the best physical shape of my life. So I would say that learning one thing here gave me the confidence to improve in this area.
-I have gained a little bit of a bulging pocketbook. Yes the dollars saved, though may not have been as much as some others, it has lead me to treating myself to a few items as a reward.
-I have gained time. Here is one that has also had a great impact. No more searching for more, running out to the store, or the time spent trying to get the next fix. But also the time spent away from my loved ones as I separated myself, even if mentally while in the same room. The time running to the bathroom to rid myself of it before eatingÂ….just amazing what recollecting a few minutes a day can do.
-I have also gained the anywhere/anytime for those special moments with the wife, where she can kiss me whenever she wants.
-And finally off the top of my head, I have gained the best friends and extended family a person could ask for. As yes, any here would reach out their hand to help support me in my quit, but when that extends to real life, where now I feel that I can go just about anywhere in the United States and have a meal, have a drink, or enjoy the company, now that is something special that I never expected. Where I can pick up the phone and call any one of many people just to talk, it truly a blessing.
So as you can see, some of the items on this list were on my list of initial reasons for quitting, but when you look back on it, there is the ability to gain so much more than you expect, and I am sure there are others that have more than what I have listed here.
Very well said Derek. I would love to witness you hitting that Hall of Legends, but since my first week of quit you have been my own personal legend that helped guide me along the quit path. Plus you are my October brother, just from another mother.
You Rawk oh Knighted One!
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From the roundtable this is a little different story to tell, as this looks to others for what they may have encountered.
Ok so whatÂ’s next?
This past week not sure if it is some funk, or some life event (no birthdays or anything special in the family), but all of a sudden if feels like there is something amiss.
Am I happy? ABSOLUTELY as donÂ’t think I could be happier, as I have many days now where I really do not think about putting nicotine in my body.
I keep putting myself out there to help others, so donÂ’t think its complacency setting in as I do realize that I can never again ingest a lick of nicotine.
It just feels real weird right now. Not really missing it. And know I have replaced it with certain personal challenges, and other items like my exercise and such. But still feels like I am looking for what is next?
This probably makes no sense to a newer quitter but I am looking towards those who have more days than myself to see if they have advice or if they have gone through this.
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From the roundtable this is a little different story to tell, as this looks to others for what they may have encountered.
Ok so whatÂ’s next?
This past week not sure if it is some funk, or some life event (no birthdays or anything special in the family), but all of a sudden if feels like there is something amiss.
Am I happy? ABSOLUTELY as donÂ’t think I could be happier, as I have many days now where I really do not think about putting nicotine in my body.
I keep putting myself out there to help others, so donÂ’t think its complacency setting in as I do realize that I can never again ingest a lick of nicotine.
It just feels real weird right now. Not really missing it. And know I have replaced it with certain personal challenges, and other items like my exercise and such. But still feels like I am looking for what is next?
This probably makes no sense to a newer quitter but I am looking towards those who have more days than myself to see if they have advice or if they have gone through this.
This is an important crossroads moment derek. I think even some of the most active quitters fade because they don't really know where to go from here. I have been where you are... and the only answer I can give is to fight with everything you have to keep from fading away. Because fading is what most people do when they get to where you are.
My time here has had many periods just like the one that you are going through. For a while I was only here first thing in the morning to post roll and at the end of the day to check in to see what happened in my group over the day. Other times I practically lived here.
What you are going through is inevitable. How you respond to it is your choice. Push through it, friend.
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From the roundtable this is a little different story to tell, as this looks to others for what they may have encountered.
Ok so whatÂ’s next?
This past week not sure if it is some funk, or some life event (no birthdays or anything special in the family), but all of a sudden if feels like there is something amiss.
Am I happy? ABSOLUTELY as donÂ’t think I could be happier, as I have many days now where I really do not think about putting nicotine in my body.
I keep putting myself out there to help others, so donÂ’t think its complacency setting in as I do realize that I can never again ingest a lick of nicotine.
It just feels real weird right now. Not really missing it. And know I have replaced it with certain personal challenges, and other items like my exercise and such. But still feels like I am looking for what is next?
This probably makes no sense to a newer quitter but I am looking towards those who have more days than myself to see if they have advice or if they have gone through this.
This is an important crossroads moment derek. I think even some of the most active quitters fade because they don't really know where to go from here. I have been where you are... and the only answer I can give is to fight with everything you have to keep from fading away. Because fading is what most people do when they get to where you are.
My time here has had many periods just like the one that you are going through. For a while I was only here first thing in the morning to post roll and at the end of the day to check in to see what happened in my group over the day. Other times I practically lived here.
What you are going through is inevitable. How you respond to it is your choice. Push through it, friend.
X2
Couldn't have said it any better myself, 30. How much energy I have to focus on my quit, the quits of others, and KTC as a whole is cyclical. At least for me, those emptiness feelings you have comes during those downward trends. A sort of re-dedication, picking up a brand new quitter to guide, spending more time in chat, etc. Whatever it may be, for you. That's what has pulled me through those "blah" periods.
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From the roundtable this is a little different story to tell, as this looks to others for what they may have encountered.
Ok so whatÂ’s next?
This past week not sure if it is some funk, or some life event (no birthdays or anything special in the family), but all of a sudden if feels like there is something amiss.
Am I happy? ABSOLUTELY as donÂ’t think I could be happier, as I have many days now where I really do not think about putting nicotine in my body.
I keep putting myself out there to help others, so donÂ’t think its complacency setting in as I do realize that I can never again ingest a lick of nicotine.
It just feels real weird right now. Not really missing it. And know I have replaced it with certain personal challenges, and other items like my exercise and such. But still feels like I am looking for what is next?
This probably makes no sense to a newer quitter but I am looking towards those who have more days than myself to see if they have advice or if they have gone through this.
This is an important crossroads moment derek. I think even some of the most active quitters fade because they don't really know where to go from here. I have been where you are... and the only answer I can give is to fight with everything you have to keep from fading away. Because fading is what most people do when they get to where you are.
My time here has had many periods just like the one that you are going through. For a while I was only here first thing in the morning to post roll and at the end of the day to check in to see what happened in my group over the day. Other times I practically lived here.
What you are going through is inevitable. How you respond to it is your choice. Push through it, friend.
X2
Couldn't have said it any better myself, 30. How much energy I have to focus on my quit, the quits of others, and KTC as a whole is cyclical. At least for me, those emptiness feelings you have comes during those downward trends. A sort of re-dedication, picking up a brand new quitter to guide, spending more time in chat, etc. Whatever it may be, for you. That's what has pulled me through those "blah" periods.
sd - first of all thanks for all your help in helping this blind squirrel find the acron. Could it be it's like the weight looser who hits the wall. They're still doing the diet thing but the weights just isn't coming off like it use to. Those who stay the course reap the benefit. Those who get frustrated tend to loose there way and fade back into the weight gain issue. Keep both eyes on the road and get past this. Old ES
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Day 765 -
I think at one time we all have asked the question "Does there ever come a day when I don't think of nicotine for 24 hours? and When does this day happen"
Well the short answer is Yes. A longer answer from my own experience was that it was in the 130 day range, I hear others say it was up in the 220-250 range, but it will arrive.
And can give an example to show how powerful the realization can be:
This past weekend was the 3rd time since I have quit where I attended my son's county swim championships.
Now earlier in my thread I ran through the account where First Year I almost caved that weekend as it was just a 10 minute walk to the gas station. It was (after the first 2 weeks) the closest that I had come.
The Second Year, we got there in the morning and I took a walk for coffee to that same gas station, I was laughing along the way thinking I should have fun texting others (note in year 1 I had Zero numbers at that time). Well I remember buying the coffee but still focusing on the wall of death. So it was progress.
Well this as mentioned was 3rd Year. Went the same for coffee, got coffee, paid and left. About 200 yards out of the store I realized I had not even noticed the wall. Nothing. No Focus or nothing. I tried to remember the cashier and behind her was all a blur. It shook me for the good but felt so great. And in all this, there was no thought of ever putting that crap in my mouth that day.
So I know it may not seem like it now, but please give it time and do not rush it, as it does get so much better.
I only hope that you sit around the table with me and Trust me.
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Day 765 -
I think at one time we all have asked the question "Does there ever come a day when I don't think of nicotine for 24 hours? and When does this day happen"
Well the short answer is Yes. A longer answer from my own experience was that it was in the 130 day range, I hear others say it was up in the 220-250 range, but it will arrive.
And can give an example to show how powerful the realization can be:
This past weekend was the 3rd time since I have quit where I attended my son's county swim championships.
Now earlier in my thread I ran through the account where First Year I almost caved that weekend as it was just a 10 minute walk to the gas station. It was (after the first 2 weeks) the closest that I had come.
The Second Year, we got there in the morning and I took a walk for coffee to that same gas station, I was laughing along the way thinking I should have fun texting others (note in year 1 I had Zero numbers at that time). Well I remember buying the coffee but still focusing on the wall of death. So it was progress.
Well this as mentioned was 3rd Year. Went the same for coffee, got coffee, paid and left. About 200 yards out of the store I realized I had not even noticed the wall. Nothing. No Focus or nothing. I tried to remember the cashier and behind her was all a blur. It shook me for the good but felt so great. And in all this, there was no thought of ever putting that crap in my mouth that day.
So I know it may not seem like it now, but please give it time and do not rush it, as it does get so much better.
I only hope that you sit around the table with me and Trust me.
Great share Derek. I called that my FUCK IT! day, when nicotine was no longer a factor for me. I don't know if it is truly that my body no longer has the chemical dependency on the drug but mentally I have seen enough bullshit and have just decided that I am not going back to the addict me. Granted I am still an addict until I can counterbalance the concurrent quit years with the addiction years, but there is no way in hell that I am going to change.
Change is normally progress but that change I will no revert back to.
I will sit at the table with you, but damn can a brother get a spoon?
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Day 765 -
I think at one time we all have asked the question "Does there ever come a day when I don't think of nicotine for 24 hours? and When does this day happen"
Well the short answer is Yes. A longer answer from my own experience was that it was in the 130 day range, I hear others say it was up in the 220-250 range, but it will arrive.
And can give an example to show how powerful the realization can be:
This past weekend was the 3rd time since I have quit where I attended my son's county swim championships.
Now earlier in my thread I ran through the account where First Year I almost caved that weekend as it was just a 10 minute walk to the gas station. It was (after the first 2 weeks) the closest that I had come.
The Second Year, we got there in the morning and I took a walk for coffee to that same gas station, I was laughing along the way thinking I should have fun texting others (note in year 1 I had Zero numbers at that time). Well I remember buying the coffee but still focusing on the wall of death. So it was progress.
Well this as mentioned was 3rd Year. Went the same for coffee, got coffee, paid and left. About 200 yards out of the store I realized I had not even noticed the wall. Nothing. No Focus or nothing. I tried to remember the cashier and behind her was all a blur. It shook me for the good but felt so great. And in all this, there was no thought of ever putting that crap in my mouth that day.
So I know it may not seem like it now, but please give it time and do not rush it, as it does get so much better.
I only hope that you sit around the table with me and Trust me.
Great share Derek. I called that my FUCK IT! day, when nicotine was no longer a factor for me. I don't know if it is truly that my body no longer has the chemical dependency on the drug but mentally I have seen enough bullshit and have just decided that I am not going back to the addict me. Granted I am still an addict until I can counterbalance the concurrent quit years with the addiction years, but there is no way in hell that I am going to change.
Change is normally progress but that change I will no revert back to.
I will sit at the table with you, but damn can a brother get a spoon?
So there may be hope for me too? Every time I see that rack of death I want to fire gasoline all over it and pop a flare on it...
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Day 765 -
I think at one time we all have asked the question "Does there ever come a day when I don't think of nicotine for 24 hours? and When does this day happen"
Well the short answer is Yes. A longer answer from my own experience was that it was in the 130 day range, I hear others say it was up in the 220-250 range, but it will arrive.
And can give an example to show how powerful the realization can be:
This past weekend was the 3rd time since I have quit where I attended my son's county swim championships.
Now earlier in my thread I ran through the account where First Year I almost caved that weekend as it was just a 10 minute walk to the gas station. It was (after the first 2 weeks) the closest that I had come.
The Second Year, we got there in the morning and I took a walk for coffee to that same gas station, I was laughing along the way thinking I should have fun texting others (note in year 1 I had Zero numbers at that time). Well I remember buying the coffee but still focusing on the wall of death. So it was progress.
Well this as mentioned was 3rd Year. Went the same for coffee, got coffee, paid and left. About 200 yards out of the store I realized I had not even noticed the wall. Nothing. No Focus or nothing. I tried to remember the cashier and behind her was all a blur. It shook me for the good but felt so great. And in all this, there was no thought of ever putting that crap in my mouth that day.
So I know it may not seem like it now, but please give it time and do not rush it, as it does get so much better.
I only hope that you sit around the table with me and Trust me.
Great share Derek. I called that my FUCK IT! day, when nicotine was no longer a factor for me. I don't know if it is truly that my body no longer has the chemical dependency on the drug but mentally I have seen enough bullshit and have just decided that I am not going back to the addict me. Granted I am still an addict until I can counterbalance the concurrent quit years with the addiction years, but there is no way in hell that I am going to change.
Change is normally progress but that change I will no revert back to.
I will sit at the table with you, but damn can a brother get a spoon?
So there may be hope for me too? Every time I see that rack of death I want to fire gasoline all over it and pop a flare on it...
I looked at the wall in a c-store recently and it amazes me how much of it is taken up these days by all the different brands and flavors of cancer cans. When I started back in the dark ages, you had a huge wall of cancer sticks and a couple of cardboard or metal holders with maybe 4 or 5 different flavors of cat turd. Not a bit of crave especially when looking at how much that crap costs these days! Proud to be a quitter today!!!
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Anatomy of a Roll Post
This is the way that I look at the posting of roll from my 2 years being here.
The roll posting for an individual is like a signature on a contract. It provides the validity to the promise that is given each and every day. But letÂ’s look at it deeper:
UsernameÂ…Â…Day CountÂ…Â…CommentÂ…Â….Other
Roll consists of what I see as 4 parts. One is critical, One is requested but not absolute, and the other two are optional.
Username: This is the most absolute critical part of the roll. This is the person that is providing their promise that he/she will not use nicotine for the next 24 hour period. This is the person that is then honoring this contract each and every day. This person should recognize the impact that the name has on the roll as it says that in addition to being there for him/herself that he/she will also be there for others, as that is one of the defining factors of brotherhood. Now when on the roll, when entering the name does it have to be the same person that is actually, technically adding it, no it does not. And I will get to that in a moment.
Day Count: Here is the second requested part of the roll. I say requested only because some who have been around use +1 when recording it. Me I have done this but not frequently. I like to look at the quit calculator and see the actual number of days that I have been quit and then record that number. I actually recommend this to the newer quitters as you take it One Day at a Time, and can see how the numbers add up day after day.
Comment: now here is an optional part. Is anything else needed at this point, no there is not. But I would like to point out that this comment is a good place for a short statement of how you are feeling from time to time. Or it can be a place to ask for help or to ask a question. Some have used it to answer a question of the day so that the group gets to know each other a little. Me I used this the most to tell how I was feeling. I also look through the groups and use this an identifier for who I should send off a little PM for support. So yes this is optional but can and should be used as a tool to help you when needed.
Other: again this is a 4th part and is optional and just to give a short mention. This would be the bump fix where those would help out and update the roll for those who have gotten bumped during the day. It happens to everyone. And still happens in the older groups. This is also where we can add via ‘location’ for when people contact others to put them on the roll for when they do not have computer access or just cannot get onto it them self. So this is why earlier I mentioned that the one doing the actual posting does not have to be the name of the person as roll. So use this in these cases to help one another out, as this is being there in this brotherhood that you are now a part of.
And most of all from what I have seen in my time here: When a roll call is made, and these 4 parts are on it, DO NOT ALTER, TOUCH, DEFACE, CHANGE THE POST OF ANOTHER. As that is the personÂ’s oath, and no matter what we may think, it is their responsibility to follow up that oath with their actions.
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Anatomy of a Roll Post
This is the way that I look at the posting of roll from my 2 years being here.
The roll posting for an individual is like a signature on a contract. It provides the validity to the promise that is given each and every day. But letÂ’s look at it deeper:
UsernameÂ…Â…Day CountÂ…Â…CommentÂ…Â….Other
Roll consists of what I see as 4 parts. One is critical, One is requested but not absolute, and the other two are optional.
Username: This is the most absolute critical part of the roll. This is the person that is providing their promise that he/she will not use nicotine for the next 24 hour period. This is the person that is then honoring this contract each and every day. This person should recognize the impact that the name has on the roll as it says that in addition to being there for him/herself that he/she will also be there for others, as that is one of the defining factors of brotherhood. Now when on the roll, when entering the name does it have to be the same person that is actually, technically adding it, no it does not. And I will get to that in a moment.
Day Count: Here is the second requested part of the roll. I say requested only because some who have been around use +1 when recording it. Me I have done this but not frequently. I like to look at the quit calculator and see the actual number of days that I have been quit and then record that number. I actually recommend this to the newer quitters as you take it One Day at a Time, and can see how the numbers add up day after day.
Comment: now here is an optional part. Is anything else needed at this point, no there is not. But I would like to point out that this comment is a good place for a short statement of how you are feeling from time to time. Or it can be a place to ask for help or to ask a question. Some have used it to answer a question of the day so that the group gets to know each other a little. Me I used this the most to tell how I was feeling. I also look through the groups and use this an identifier for who I should send off a little PM for support. So yes this is optional but can and should be used as a tool to help you when needed.
Other: again this is a 4th part and is optional and just to give a short mention. This would be the bump fix where those would help out and update the roll for those who have gotten bumped during the day. It happens to everyone. And still happens in the older groups. This is also where we can add via ‘location’ for when people contact others to put them on the roll for when they do not have computer access or just cannot get onto it them self. So this is why earlier I mentioned that the one doing the actual posting does not have to be the name of the person as roll. So use this in these cases to help one another out, as this is being there in this brotherhood that you are now a part of.
And most of all from what I have seen in my time here: When a roll call is made, and these 4 parts are on it, DO NOT ALTER, TOUCH, DEFACE, CHANGE THE POST OF ANOTHER. As that is the personÂ’s oath, and no matter what we may think, it is their responsibility to follow up that oath with their actions.
perfection
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“That you are here - that life exists, and identity; that the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse. That the powerful play *goes on* and you may contribute a verse. What will your verse be?"
~Robin Williams as John Keating in Dead Poets Society
I found this quote as a tribute to a great entertainer that as I grew up watched him from Mork from Orc, through his characters in TV and Movies (Good Will Hunting, Genie from Aladdin). I am not sure if there has been another comic that has made me laugh and cry as much as this individual but I pulled this part of the quote out as it hit me the greatest as we look ahead in our lives.
My verse I wanted to finally be clean and not controlled by any poisonous substance that I had used for 23 years. I wanted to stop lying mainly to myself every day while thinking it was doing nothing to me. I needed to be healthy. I needed to regain the respect for myself and being able to look into a mirror and like the person that I was. And I think in the 2 years since I have quit I have regained just that.
But my verse does not stop there as now I want to open that door for others. I want to reach out and help those who were in a similar position to me to see what I see now. I want for them to see the beauty of living without the poison. I want for them to be free to do what is in their heart.
So as I move forward, Carpe diem, I will make my life extraordinary.
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I have returned....
ok well I really never went anywhere, other that out to nature to boy scout camp, but I tell you a week away really puts things into a bit of perspective.
Now My original plan was to skip posting roll for the week. I wanted the isolation. Now before the bashing commences let me explain. Yes this was an experiment. It was something I needed to take at this point in my quit, to see (1) how I would react, and (2) how it can be that some drift away. And knowing that I had nothing packed and was going to the boy scout camp and saying that word daily was as safest in that manner as possible.
I will say that during that day I can see that, even after 2 years, the not posting does keep that door open. I think I tore through so many toothpicks...
Well the experiment failed after one day, or maybe would say was successful. You see after 1 day, where I knew I missing posting, I could not stop thinking about my friends and some who I call family here, and that if not for me, but for my roll post to help them out. Maybe it is me but that is the tug I was feeling (even though I had texted a few of them just to chat). I did not want to let others down by not posting...
So to all you that may read this, I can only encourage you to experience the full capability that this site is trying to teach you. Post the roll to give your promise, Let your word be seen so that others may see it to help them out, make those couple of friends to that if not roll you actually think of the real people that are here.
So for now moving forward you will see my name on that roll in Oct12, join us there in a solid group of some of the greatest brothers and sisters that I have met. I will also be around to help you.
be good and I will have more to come of what I realized out there....
You were missed!
I tried the skipping roll thing too once. For about 16 hours. Never again Derek.
Glad you had a good trip.
Good to hear you had a good trip!
Not posting is like not having that little guy sitting on your shoulder saying go ahead who will know!!!!!!
Posting is what has gotten you the freedom from the nic bitch and its posting that will keep you focused.
Now I know I dont post everyday usually on the weekends, this does not mean that I dont NEED to post it is simply my choice. I know if I were to get into a bad funk I could call on my KTC brothers and get me back off the ledge.
My quit is strong and so is my resolve, I see the same in SirDerek as I see in many badass quiters on the site, keep on keeping on!
As always I am quit with you today and everyday brother!
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I have returned....
ok well I really never went anywhere, other that out to nature to boy scout camp, but I tell you a week away really puts things into a bit of perspective.
Now My original plan was to skip posting roll for the week. I wanted the isolation. Now before the bashing commences let me explain. Yes this was an experiment. It was something I needed to take at this point in my quit, to see (1) how I would react, and (2) how it can be that some drift away. And knowing that I had nothing packed and was going to the boy scout camp and saying that word daily was as safest in that manner as possible.
I will say that during that day I can see that, even after 2 years, the not posting does keep that door open. I think I tore through so many toothpicks...
Well the experiment failed after one day, or maybe would say was successful. You see after 1 day, where I knew I missing posting, I could not stop thinking about my friends and some who I call family here, and that if not for me, but for my roll post to help them out. Maybe it is me but that is the tug I was feeling (even though I had texted a few of them just to chat). I did not want to let others down by not posting...
So to all you that may read this, I can only encourage you to experience the full capability that this site is trying to teach you. Post the roll to give your promise, Let your word be seen so that others may see it to help them out, make those couple of friends to that if not roll you actually think of the real people that are here.
So for now moving forward you will see my name on that roll in Oct12, join us there in a solid group of some of the greatest brothers and sisters that I have met. I will also be around to help you.
be good and I will have more to come of what I realized out there....
You were missed!
I tried the skipping roll thing too once. For about 16 hours. Never again Derek.
Glad you had a good trip.
Good to hear you had a good trip!
Not posting is like not having that little guy sitting on your shoulder saying go ahead who will know!!!!!!
Posting is what has gotten you the freedom from the nic bitch and its posting that will keep you focused.
Now I know I dont post everyday usually on the weekends, this does not mean that I dont NEED to post it is simply my choice. I know if I were to get into a bad funk I could call on my KTC brothers and get me back off the ledge.
My quit is strong and so is my resolve, I see the same in SirDerek as I see in many badass quiters on the site, keep on keeping on!
As always I am quit with you today and everyday brother!
I love how much it bothered you to not post roll. That shows a true commitment to your quit and to your brothers and sisters quits. Proud to quit with you!
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Here is what I would like to define as Stages of Accountability, as I have seen and experienced them through my quit.
For those who have experienced it feel free to comment.
For those who may be new I say look through these as with each stage, your living clean will get stronger and stronger.
Stage 0 – This is your daily decision that you are making to be clean. This is looking into the mirror each day and deciding for you not to use. We have all done this in the past, and for most this alone is not good enough to remain quit. But that is the past. We still need to do this each and every day as this is for our self. This is where our quit starts, from within.
Personal experience: This is my decision point. It was what I did when I chose to quit, and also one of the first decisions that I make each day.
Stage 1 – Posting your word. Ok here we add in the next level. Now this is where we write down our promise and oath. This is where we start to build as this starts to include the others within the community, whether it be to your group, or across groups. This now tells others of what you are planning to do for the day, and that is not to allow nicotine into your system for the next 24 hour period. Like signing a contract or a declaration, this is your bond to others. So do everything you can to honor it.
Personal experience: I may have done this for about a week. Reading on the sites, getting information and in my own group wrote down my word.
Stage 2 – Exchanging numbers and texting only or being in the chat room. We continue to step up by now involving a little more direct involvement with other members. Instead of the delayed comments put into the threads or via pms, now you start to get the immediate feedback. Now you start to interact with the others to see who they are, to find out likes, dislikes, hobbies, maybe families. All this is done by the written word. At this level the bonds of family are started. Quitting starts to take on a new meaning as now it is not just strangers that are trying to help you, but now it is becoming more like friends who will help.
Personal experience: This is where I started to live my quit, I found the live chat room and with the benefit of working at home, was able to stay in there constantly early in my quit (and am still there but that is to help others now). I do say I was slow to hand out my number and text and looking back wish I would have opened up more, as there were times I was away from a computer and could not get into chat but could have used the numbers. But yes in the chat itself I did start to interact frequently
Stage 3 – Talking to one another: Sometimes the written word between people can be misinterpreted or might just not be enough. So the next level is talk to another. Put a voice to the username and letters that you see daily. Start to really make it real as you have a live conversation with another. Joke a little, learn more about one another. Really build that bond as now there is someone ‘live’ on the other end who you can count on being there when you need and who you can be there for them when they need.
Personal experience: Again I was very slow for this, I do not know whether because I can be shy or what, but this is something that even after 2 years I have vowed to make a major change in (and am doing so) where I want to speak live to another quitter at a minimum of once every 1-2 weeks. And does this talk have to be about quitting, no it just has to be to hear a friendly voice.
Stage 4 - Meeting one another: If you think that hearing a voice on the end of a telephone makes it real, try looking another person in the eye, shaking their hand, giving them a hug. Now your accountability just hit the roof. Now when you make your promise each day there really is someone who you will be letting down besides yourself. There is flesh and blood there. This is where you can find bonds of friendship really form.
Personal experience: This was something that I was not expecting and totally shocked me in this process. I met my first person(s) shortly after hitting 100 days. And the strangest thing was in talking live to these people is that it felt like we were old friends. After a very short period of time with them, I became totally real and did feel like we were not only friends but related. It was after this where I strove to meet more people because now I did not want one bit to let those down who I had met. (and I think I may have met in person before even speaking to others on the phone, so a little backwards there). I thought this was just about as high as I could go for the accountability but thenÂ…..
Stage 5 - Meeting the others family members. If meeting another quitter in person is real, then meeting their family and having them meet yours, well that would fit the surreal category. Here you see the support at home for another, shaking a husbandÂ’s hand, hugging a wife, getting to see their kids. Now not only can you get the feeling of letting another quitter down, but this shows to each other the who all would be effected. This then is indeed Family.
Personal experience: Again if I felt that seeing another quitter was huge, meeting the family that they speak about goes beyond anything I could have ever dreamed about. It is here that I strive to get to. I know of others that can go just about anywhere in the US, and would have at least a dinner invite. I would like to think that I am close to this, if not there already. But I do know that I make myself and my home open to those who become a part of my family.
And as with being family, I plan to never let you down with myself living clean.
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Here is what I would like to define as Stages of Accountability, as I have seen and experienced them through my quit.
For those who have experienced it feel free to comment.
For those who may be new I say look through these as with each stage, your living clean will get stronger and stronger.
Stage 0 – This is your daily decision that you are making to be clean. This is looking into the mirror each day and deciding for you not to use. We have all done this in the past, and for most this alone is not good enough to remain quit. But that is the past. We still need to do this each and every day as this is for our self. This is where our quit starts, from within.
Personal experience: This is my decision point. It was what I did when I chose to quit, and also one of the first decisions that I make each day.
Stage 1 – Posting your word. Ok here we add in the next level. Now this is where we write down our promise and oath. This is where we start to build as this starts to include the others within the community, whether it be to your group, or across groups. This now tells others of what you are planning to do for the day, and that is not to allow nicotine into your system for the next 24 hour period. Like signing a contract or a declaration, this is your bond to others. So do everything you can to honor it.
Personal experience: I may have done this for about a week. Reading on the sites, getting information and in my own group wrote down my word.
Stage 2 – Exchanging numbers and texting only or being in the chat room. We continue to step up by now involving a little more direct involvement with other members. Instead of the delayed comments put into the threads or via pms, now you start to get the immediate feedback. Now you start to interact with the others to see who they are, to find out likes, dislikes, hobbies, maybe families. All this is done by the written word. At this level the bonds of family are started. Quitting starts to take on a new meaning as now it is not just strangers that are trying to help you, but now it is becoming more like friends who will help.
Personal experience: This is where I started to live my quit, I found the live chat room and with the benefit of working at home, was able to stay in there constantly early in my quit (and am still there but that is to help others now). I do say I was slow to hand out my number and text and looking back wish I would have opened up more, as there were times I was away from a computer and could not get into chat but could have used the numbers. But yes in the chat itself I did start to interact frequently
Stage 3 – Talking to one another: Sometimes the written word between people can be misinterpreted or might just not be enough. So the next level is talk to another. Put a voice to the username and letters that you see daily. Start to really make it real as you have a live conversation with another. Joke a little, learn more about one another. Really build that bond as now there is someone ‘live’ on the other end who you can count on being there when you need and who you can be there for them when they need.
Personal experience: Again I was very slow for this, I do not know whether because I can be shy or what, but this is something that even after 2 years I have vowed to make a major change in (and am doing so) where I want to speak live to another quitter at a minimum of once every 1-2 weeks. And does this talk have to be about quitting, no it just has to be to hear a friendly voice.
Stage 4 - Meeting one another: If you think that hearing a voice on the end of a telephone makes it real, try looking another person in the eye, shaking their hand, giving them a hug. Now your accountability just hit the roof. Now when you make your promise each day there really is someone who you will be letting down besides yourself. There is flesh and blood there. This is where you can find bonds of friendship really form.
Personal experience: This was something that I was not expecting and totally shocked me in this process. I met my first person(s) shortly after hitting 100 days. And the strangest thing was in talking live to these people is that it felt like we were old friends. After a very short period of time with them, I became totally real and did feel like we were not only friends but related. It was after this where I strove to meet more people because now I did not want one bit to let those down who I had met. (and I think I may have met in person before even speaking to others on the phone, so a little backwards there). I thought this was just about as high as I could go for the accountability but thenÂ…..
Stage 5 - Meeting the others family members. If meeting another quitter in person is real, then meeting their family and having them meet yours, well that would fit the surreal category. Here you see the support at home for another, shaking a husbandÂ’s hand, hugging a wife, getting to see their kids. Now not only can you get the feeling of letting another quitter down, but this shows to each other the who all would be effected. This then is indeed Family.
Personal experience: Again if I felt that seeing another quitter was huge, meeting the family that they speak about goes beyond anything I could have ever dreamed about. It is here that I strive to get to. I know of others that can go just about anywhere in the US, and would have at least a dinner invite. I would like to think that I am close to this, if not there already. But I do know that I make myself and my home open to those who become a part of my family.
And as with being family, I plan to never let you down with myself living clean.
Um... I think I just heard a collective, "huh?" take place.
You gots too much time on your hands bro :)
I get what you're saying here but at the same time.. You're trying to unnecessarily formulate a natural progression. It's a too wordy rehash of what we already know. In some cases... It's a progression that not everybody needs or even goes through. As a noob... I would have shut down reading this. It's too codified... Not everything needs defined in stages. Not everything needs philosophized about. Sometimes things just need to happen.
Not trying to be an ass... Mad respect to you bro. Just my $.02.
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Here is what I would like to define as Stages of Accountability, as I have seen and experienced them through my quit.
For those who have experienced it feel free to comment.
For those who may be new I say look through these as with each stage, your living clean will get stronger and stronger.
Stage 0 – This is your daily decision that you are making to be clean. This is looking into the mirror each day and deciding for you not to use. We have all done this in the past, and for most this alone is not good enough to remain quit. But that is the past. We still need to do this each and every day as this is for our self. This is where our quit starts, from within.
Personal experience: This is my decision point. It was what I did when I chose to quit, and also one of the first decisions that I make each day.
Stage 1 – Posting your word. Ok here we add in the next level. Now this is where we write down our promise and oath. This is where we start to build as this starts to include the others within the community, whether it be to your group, or across groups. This now tells others of what you are planning to do for the day, and that is not to allow nicotine into your system for the next 24 hour period. Like signing a contract or a declaration, this is your bond to others. So do everything you can to honor it.
Personal experience: I may have done this for about a week. Reading on the sites, getting information and in my own group wrote down my word.
Stage 2 – Exchanging numbers and texting only or being in the chat room. We continue to step up by now involving a little more direct involvement with other members. Instead of the delayed comments put into the threads or via pms, now you start to get the immediate feedback. Now you start to interact with the others to see who they are, to find out likes, dislikes, hobbies, maybe families. All this is done by the written word. At this level the bonds of family are started. Quitting starts to take on a new meaning as now it is not just strangers that are trying to help you, but now it is becoming more like friends who will help.
Personal experience: This is where I started to live my quit, I found the live chat room and with the benefit of working at home, was able to stay in there constantly early in my quit (and am still there but that is to help others now). I do say I was slow to hand out my number and text and looking back wish I would have opened up more, as there were times I was away from a computer and could not get into chat but could have used the numbers. But yes in the chat itself I did start to interact frequently
Stage 3 – Talking to one another: Sometimes the written word between people can be misinterpreted or might just not be enough. So the next level is talk to another. Put a voice to the username and letters that you see daily. Start to really make it real as you have a live conversation with another. Joke a little, learn more about one another. Really build that bond as now there is someone ‘live’ on the other end who you can count on being there when you need and who you can be there for them when they need.
Personal experience: Again I was very slow for this, I do not know whether because I can be shy or what, but this is something that even after 2 years I have vowed to make a major change in (and am doing so) where I want to speak live to another quitter at a minimum of once every 1-2 weeks. And does this talk have to be about quitting, no it just has to be to hear a friendly voice.
Stage 4 - Meeting one another: If you think that hearing a voice on the end of a telephone makes it real, try looking another person in the eye, shaking their hand, giving them a hug. Now your accountability just hit the roof. Now when you make your promise each day there really is someone who you will be letting down besides yourself. There is flesh and blood there. This is where you can find bonds of friendship really form.
Personal experience: This was something that I was not expecting and totally shocked me in this process. I met my first person(s) shortly after hitting 100 days. And the strangest thing was in talking live to these people is that it felt like we were old friends. After a very short period of time with them, I became totally real and did feel like we were not only friends but related. It was after this where I strove to meet more people because now I did not want one bit to let those down who I had met. (and I think I may have met in person before even speaking to others on the phone, so a little backwards there). I thought this was just about as high as I could go for the accountability but thenÂ…..
Stage 5 - Meeting the others family members. If meeting another quitter in person is real, then meeting their family and having them meet yours, well that would fit the surreal category. Here you see the support at home for another, shaking a husbandÂ’s hand, hugging a wife, getting to see their kids. Now not only can you get the feeling of letting another quitter down, but this shows to each other the who all would be effected. This then is indeed Family.
Personal experience: Again if I felt that seeing another quitter was huge, meeting the family that they speak about goes beyond anything I could have ever dreamed about. It is here that I strive to get to. I know of others that can go just about anywhere in the US, and would have at least a dinner invite. I would like to think that I am close to this, if not there already. But I do know that I make myself and my home open to those who become a part of my family.
And as with being family, I plan to never let you down with myself living clean.
Um... I think I just heard a collective, "huh?" take place.
You gots too much time on your hands bro :)
I get what you're saying here but at the same time.. You're trying to unnecessarily formulate a natural progression. It's a too wordy rehash of what we already know. In some cases... It's a progression that not everybody needs or even goes through. As a noob... I would have shut down reading this. It's too codified... Not everything needs defined in stages. Not everything needs philosophized about. Sometimes things just need to happen.
Not trying to be an ass... Mad respect to you bro. Just my $.02.
thank you, that is all I can say as I know that some of the things that I post can and will help others and some will be like you say AJ is just thinking too much
we are a community where we say take what you need and leave the rest. Well I just hope that what I post can help at least 1 person., As if it does then I have done my job...
as for me, after tonight at the PA Meet (and this is only night 1 of 2), I can only say that I may not be cured, but I will absolutely NEVER go back as there is just too much there before me that is at stake.
love you all and thanks
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You lost me won't go back to a meet or back to the can? About the above post IMO your precision succinct posts had much more impact. More frequent less info is how I process. I have read back through your thread a bit and the stages and how to post roll did not appear to be your style. I would have to agree w AJ too wordy but that's ok it's your thread. Just saying it wasn't reflective of your previous style
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Post roll
Keep word
Upward and onward!
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Here is what I would like to define as Stages of Accountability, as I have seen and experienced them through my quit.
For those who have experienced it feel free to comment.
For those who may be new I say look through these as with each stage, your living clean will get stronger and stronger.
Stage 0 – This is your daily decision that you are making to be clean. This is looking into the mirror each day and deciding for you not to use. We have all done this in the past, and for most this alone is not good enough to remain quit. But that is the past. We still need to do this each and every day as this is for our self. This is where our quit starts, from within.
Personal experience: This is my decision point. It was what I did when I chose to quit, and also one of the first decisions that I make each day.
Stage 1 – Posting your word. Ok here we add in the next level. Now this is where we write down our promise and oath. This is where we start to build as this starts to include the others within the community, whether it be to your group, or across groups. This now tells others of what you are planning to do for the day, and that is not to allow nicotine into your system for the next 24 hour period. Like signing a contract or a declaration, this is your bond to others. So do everything you can to honor it.
Personal experience: I may have done this for about a week. Reading on the sites, getting information and in my own group wrote down my word.
Stage 2 – Exchanging numbers and texting only or being in the chat room. We continue to step up by now involving a little more direct involvement with other members. Instead of the delayed comments put into the threads or via pms, now you start to get the immediate feedback. Now you start to interact with the others to see who they are, to find out likes, dislikes, hobbies, maybe families. All this is done by the written word. At this level the bonds of family are started. Quitting starts to take on a new meaning as now it is not just strangers that are trying to help you, but now it is becoming more like friends who will help.
Personal experience: This is where I started to live my quit, I found the live chat room and with the benefit of working at home, was able to stay in there constantly early in my quit (and am still there but that is to help others now). I do say I was slow to hand out my number and text and looking back wish I would have opened up more, as there were times I was away from a computer and could not get into chat but could have used the numbers. But yes in the chat itself I did start to interact frequently
Stage 3 – Talking to one another: Sometimes the written word between people can be misinterpreted or might just not be enough. So the next level is talk to another. Put a voice to the username and letters that you see daily. Start to really make it real as you have a live conversation with another. Joke a little, learn more about one another. Really build that bond as now there is someone ‘live’ on the other end who you can count on being there when you need and who you can be there for them when they need.
Personal experience: Again I was very slow for this, I do not know whether because I can be shy or what, but this is something that even after 2 years I have vowed to make a major change in (and am doing so) where I want to speak live to another quitter at a minimum of once every 1-2 weeks. And does this talk have to be about quitting, no it just has to be to hear a friendly voice.
Stage 4 - Meeting one another: If you think that hearing a voice on the end of a telephone makes it real, try looking another person in the eye, shaking their hand, giving them a hug. Now your accountability just hit the roof. Now when you make your promise each day there really is someone who you will be letting down besides yourself. There is flesh and blood there. This is where you can find bonds of friendship really form.
Personal experience: This was something that I was not expecting and totally shocked me in this process. I met my first person(s) shortly after hitting 100 days. And the strangest thing was in talking live to these people is that it felt like we were old friends. After a very short period of time with them, I became totally real and did feel like we were not only friends but related. It was after this where I strove to meet more people because now I did not want one bit to let those down who I had met. (and I think I may have met in person before even speaking to others on the phone, so a little backwards there). I thought this was just about as high as I could go for the accountability but thenÂ…..
Stage 5 - Meeting the others family members. If meeting another quitter in person is real, then meeting their family and having them meet yours, well that would fit the surreal category. Here you see the support at home for another, shaking a husbandÂ’s hand, hugging a wife, getting to see their kids. Now not only can you get the feeling of letting another quitter down, but this shows to each other the who all would be effected. This then is indeed Family.
Personal experience: Again if I felt that seeing another quitter was huge, meeting the family that they speak about goes beyond anything I could have ever dreamed about. It is here that I strive to get to. I know of others that can go just about anywhere in the US, and would have at least a dinner invite. I would like to think that I am close to this, if not there already. But I do know that I make myself and my home open to those who become a part of my family.
And as with being family, I plan to never let you down with myself living clean.
Um... I think I just heard a collective, "huh?" take place.
You gots too much time on your hands bro :)
I get what you're saying here but at the same time.. You're trying to unnecessarily formulate a natural progression. It's a too wordy rehash of what we already know. In some cases... It's a progression that not everybody needs or even goes through. As a noob... I would have shut down reading this. It's too codified... Not everything needs defined in stages. Not everything needs philosophized about. Sometimes things just need to happen.
Not trying to be an ass... Mad respect to you bro. Just my $.02.
thank you, that is all I can say as I know that some of the things that I post can and will help others and some will be like you say AJ is just thinking too much
we are a community where we say take what you need and leave the rest. Well I just hope that what I post can help at least 1 person., As if it does then I have done my job...
as for me, after tonight at the PA Meet (and this is only night 1 of 2), I can only say that I may not be cured, but I will absolutely NEVER go back as there is just too much there before me that is at stake.
love you all and thanks
So if I don't meet my brothers and 'sisters' then I'm not doing it right?
Hey man. Tough love coming your way. You are really reeling here. I think you need to spend some time with your REAL wife and family.
Just thinking out loud here.
Unhealthy fantastical relationships are not good bro. Just saying.
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ok maybe the 'instructional' style posts are not me...
***poof***
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Every one uses their intro for different reasons some chronicle their journey, so give bits of information so that others may learn from experience and some save posts that mean a lot to themselves.
well it is this last category that I need to save this as I cannot be blessed with a better group as my Oct12 Madmen/Madwomen (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=8491710&t=1008723) as today they have really come to my help both here and on texts.
my family I cannot thank you enough
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Every one uses their intro for different reasons some chronicle their journey, so give bits of information so that others may learn from experience and some save posts that mean a lot to themselves.
well it is this last category that I need to save this as I cannot be blessed with a better group as my Oct12 Madmen/Madwomen (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=8491710&t=1008723) as today they have really come to my help both here and on texts.
my family I cannot thank you enough
With you, brother. And let me offer you this... like so many others in your group have said. You have impacted my quit, so much. I'm day 177, and you were one of the first "big names" to offer support. I've had the pleasure of talking with you in chat, text, and on the forum. We all go through ups and downs....and whatever you're doing through, know this. I'm with you. You have made my quit stronger EDD. You continue to inspire and motivated me, if you know it or not, you do.
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Derek,
I have said it before to you but you have been instrumental in my quit. No matter what happens here you need to heed some of your own advice "use what works here and forget about the rest". I hope that you can see what most others do and that is that you have been instrumental to the quits of many here. I joined KTC to help me quit my smokeless tobacco addiction and not to make friends. However, a funny thing happened along this journey and it turns out that while making a life altering change and really getting to know one's self you start to meet genuine people along the way that actually do give a fuck and want to help.
You sir of a gem of a man and you need to always remember that. I am a better man for now having a friend like you in life and I know I am not alone here.
Sincerely,
Corey
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Derek,
I have said it before to you but you have been instrumental in my quit. No matter what happens here you need to heed some of your own advice "use what works here and forget about the rest". I hope that you can see what most others do and that is that you have been instrumental to the quits of many here. I joined KTC to help me quit my smokeless tobacco addiction and not to make friends. However, a funny thing happened along this journey and it turns out that while making a life altering change and really getting to know one's self you start to meet genuine people along the way that actually do give a fuck and want to help.
You sir of a gem of a man and you need to always remember that. I am a better man for now having a friend like you in life and I know I am not alone here.
Sincerely,
Corey
Onward and upward. Life moves too fast to look behind. Spend your time looking in the past and the what could have been's will leave you with the regret of missing the now. Enough with the drama of the past, do what you do best in the now.
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I want to take a minute to point out to any and all Mods/Admins on KTC that comments are being made and things are being done to drive away yet another solid quitter from KTC. Whomever is the point on this has remained nameless as Derek is a good man, and he will not divulge information. This BULLSHIT of the Good Old Boys network needs to stop. We are all here to qui and in my 403 days here I have done that because of people like Derek who have been a daily contributor to my and many other quitters. If Derek is banned or discussed being banned then you might as well ban my ass too.
I came here to quit and along the way a have meet a few good men and women, why the fuck are people driving them away?
Derek, you have and will always be a friend in my life and I thank you for everything you have done and said for me. Everyone else, quit showing your ass and learn how to get along.
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I want to take a minute to point out to any and all Mods/Admins on KTC that comments are being made and things are being done to drive away yet another solid quitter from KTC. Whomever is the point on this has remained nameless as Derek is a good man, and he will not divulge information. This BULLSHIT of the Good Old Boys network needs to stop. We are all here to qui and in my 403 days here I have done that because of people like Derek who have been a daily contributor to my and many other quitters. If Derek is banned or discussed being banned then you might as well ban my ass too.
I came here to quit and along the way a have meet a few good men and women, why the fuck are people driving them away?
Derek, you have and will always be a friend in my life and I thank you for everything you have done and said for me. Everyone else, quit showing your ass and learn how to get along.
What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Guys a champion.
Ridiculous.
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I want to take a minute to point out to any and all Mods/Admins on KTC that comments are being made and things are being done to drive away yet another solid quitter from KTC. Whomever is the point on this has remained nameless as Derek is a good man, and he will not divulge information. This BULLSHIT of the Good Old Boys network needs to stop. We are all here to qui and in my 403 days here I have done that because of people like Derek who have been a daily contributor to my and many other quitters. If Derek is banned or discussed being banned then you might as well ban my ass too.
I came here to quit and along the way a have meet a few good men and women, why the fuck are people driving them away?
Derek, you have and will always be a friend in my life and I thank you for everything you have done and said for me. Everyone else, quit showing your ass and learn how to get along.
What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Guys a champion.
Ridiculous.
agree with both of you. Derek you're a cornerstone for me.
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
Hmmmm something aint addin up here.
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
No.
Please read above...
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
No.
Please read above...
Negative. Should be crystal clear.
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
No.
Please read above...
Negative. Should be crystal clear.
if someone is fucking with Derek this place is really going down hill. 'finger point'
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
No.
Please read above...
Negative. Should be crystal clear.
if someone is fucking with Derek this place is really going down hill. 'finger point'
Read....
There is no ban..
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
No.
Please read above...
Negative. Should be crystal clear.
if someone is fucking with Derek this place is really going down hill. 'finger point'
Read....
There is no ban..
Yeah, it should be crystal clear. This weirdness is making me think someone wants to leave, but they want to do it with a side of drama. What is going on here, guys? Feel free to PM me so that this isn't in SirD's intro.
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
No.
Please read above...
Negative. Should be crystal clear.
if someone is fucking with Derek this place is really going down hill. 'finger point'
Read....
There is no ban..
Yeah, it should be crystal clear. This weirdness is making me think someone wants to leave, but they want to do it with a side of drama. What is going on here, guys? Feel free to PM me so that this isn't in SirD's intro.
Repeat there is NO ban and no one that I am aware of behind the scenes is encouraging him to leave. If a ban vote was held today I feel safe to say it would fail. In fact I asked him not to leave.
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
No.
Please read above...
Negative. Should be crystal clear.
if someone is fucking with Derek this place is really going down hill. 'finger point'
Read....
There is no ban..
Yeah, it should be crystal clear. This weirdness is making me think someone wants to leave, but they want to do it with a side of drama. What is going on here, guys? Feel free to PM me so that this isn't in SirD's intro.
Repeat there is NO ban and no one that I am aware of behind the scenes is encouraging him to leave. If a ban vote was held today I feel safe to say it would fail. In fact I asked him not to leave.
Understood. TY
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I want to take a minute to point out to any and all Mods/Admins on KTC that comments are being made and things are being done to drive away yet another solid quitter from KTC. Whomever is the point on this has remained nameless as Derek is a good man, and he will not divulge information. This BULLSHIT of the Good Old Boys network needs to stop. We are all here to qui and in my 403 days here I have done that because of people like Derek who have been a daily contributor to my and many other quitters. If Derek is banned or discussed being banned then you might as well ban my ass too.
I came here to quit and along the way a have meet a few good men and women, why the fuck are people driving them away?
Derek, you have and will always be a friend in my life and I thank you for everything you have done and said for me. Everyone else, quit showing your ass and learn how to get along.
So we see in the above strings that SD is not banned... Great!!! But something has happened to create that possibility and it came from some unnamed Mods/Admins. It created enough of a stir to get one of the most solid quitters and supporters of quitters disenchanted with how things are being handled and a hell of a lot of his close quit brothers pissed off.
So, SDerek isn't banned.. fine..
I have one question...
WHEN IS THE BULLSHIT BULLYING BY THE MODS/ADMINS GONNA QUIT? To anyone. Not just SD, but to anyone. Sick of some of you punks sitting behind your computer screen acting all tough like you own the place with too much fucking time on your hands so you decide to pick on solid quitters and supporters of this site. The same kind of guys that make this site what it is. Keep it up Mods/Admins and you will be butt fucking each other and kicking each other off the site since there won't be anyone left to do it to.
Yep, I'm not the most active on here. I post, I take a quick look, and I run... Mainly because I work 12 to 14 hours a day, have a family to take care of and a quit to nurture. Been doing that for 724 days.
For those of you eating cheetos and fapping all day behind your computer trying to create drama on the site... STOP. Lest we lose more solid Knights of Quit.
Wait... I have another question for these unnamed Mods/Admins... Have you ever met Sir Derek?? Well, I have. He's from PA and I'm from TX and we met in GA. Common thread? Our quit. We all have to protect our quit and sometimes we need help in doing so. Picking on or singling out the guys that make this site work isn't the way to do it.
So. You can take your Mod/Admin stick.... and shove it up your ass.
LCWB96
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What the hell would he be BANNED for?
Nothing, unless I'm overlooking something. There's no vote to ban SD being held. No discussion of a vote to ban him. There was an issue and SirD was given the benefit of the doubt. It was done privately. Thought it was settled. Where is this coming from?
If SD is no longer welcome here, KTC is fucking this away. Gmann, I trust you and your word. If actions are being taken (behind the scenes) to eliminate SD from this site, I'm going to seriously reconsider my participation as well, not that it will matter. SirDerek is a cornerstone of my quit and he'll remain that if I need to go next door to make it happen. Damn, guys, when will the drama end?
Slug, you need to learn how to read...
I read it, Diesel. I also read the text sent to me by SD. I did say 'If'. I'm just going to take what works and leave the rest for now. Quit w/Diesel today.
been a while since I came into read intros. This baffles me.
So is the great knight of quit banned or not? If so, I suffered a terrible blow today.
No.
Please read above...
Negative. Should be crystal clear.
if someone is fucking with Derek this place is really going down hill. 'finger point'
Read....
There is no ban..
Yeah, it should be crystal clear. This weirdness is making me think someone wants to leave, but they want to do it with a side of drama. What is going on here, guys? Feel free to PM me so that this isn't in SirD's intro.
Repeat there is NO ban and no one that I am aware of behind the scenes is encouraging him to leave. If a ban vote was held today I feel safe to say it would fail. In fact I asked him not to leave.
Understood. TY
Derek, I hope you stay. I need you to stay. You helped me and you've helped a lot of people.
This is a difficult horse to ride... quitting is hard. It is probably almost impossible to ride 2 horses.
I've selected the horse I'm riding, and her name is KillTheCan. You've trained your KTC horse damn well my friend. I've done some investigating behind the scenes and the answers that I've gotten satisfied me... I don't think ill will was intended toward you... I really don't. Don't let some words get in the way of 800+ days of pure bad ass help... it isn't worth it.
Please stick with us. We need people like you... people like you are why KTC is what it is.
Your friend and fellow horse-rider,
worktowin
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I want to take a minute to point out to any and all Mods/Admins on KTC that comments are being made and things are being done to drive away yet another solid quitter from KTC. Whomever is the point on this has remained nameless as Derek is a good man, and he will not divulge information. This BULLSHIT of the Good Old Boys network needs to stop. We are all here to qui and in my 403 days here I have done that because of people like Derek who have been a daily contributor to my and many other quitters. If Derek is banned or discussed being banned then you might as well ban my ass too.
I came here to quit and along the way a have meet a few good men and women, why the fuck are people driving them away?
Derek, you have and will always be a friend in my life and I thank you for everything you have done and said for me. Everyone else, quit showing your ass and learn how to get along.
So we see in the above strings that SD is not banned... Great!!! But something has happened to create that possibility and it came from some unnamed Mods/Admins. It created enough of a stir to get one of the most solid quitters and supporters of quitters disenchanted with how things are being handled and a hell of a lot of his close quit brothers pissed off.
So, SDerek isn't banned.. fine..
I have one question...
WHEN IS THE BULLSHIT BULLYING BY THE MODS/ADMINS GONNA QUIT? To anyone. Not just SD, but to anyone. Sick of some of you punks sitting behind your computer screen acting all tough like you own the place with too much fucking time on your hands so you decide to pick on solid quitters and supporters of this site. The same kind of guys that make this site what it is. Keep it up Mods/Admins and you will be butt fucking each other and kicking each other off the site since there won't be anyone left to do it to.
Yep, I'm not the most active on here. I post, I take a quick look, and I run... Mainly because I work 12 to 14 hours a day, have a family to take care of and a quit to nurture. Been doing that for 724 days.
For those of you eating cheetos and fapping all day behind your computer trying to create drama on the site... STOP. Lest we lose more solid Knights of Quit.
Wait... I have another question for these unnamed Mods/Admins... Have you ever met Sir Derek?? Well, I have. He's from PA and I'm from TX and we met in GA. Common thread? Our quit. We all have to protect our quit and sometimes we need help in doing so. Picking on or singling out the guys that make this site work isn't the way to do it.
So. You can take your Mod/Admin stick.... and shove it up your ass.
LCWB96
Do you know what this was all about?
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
There is a new guy that posted an intro 51 minutes ago by the name of Mayo. when grown men are done crying, wanting to leave, getting in personal bullshit beefs, allowing other big mouths from other sites to affect us, airing out dirty laundry in public, making assumption about the fucking ban word, and letting old issues affect you then feel free to drop him a line and support his new quit.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
There is a new guy that posted an intro 51 minutes ago by the name of Mayo. when grown men are done crying, wanting to leave, getting in personal bullshit beefs, allowing other big mouths from other sites to affect us, airing out dirty laundry in public, making assumption about the fucking ban word, and letting old issues affect you then feel free to drop him a line and support his new quit.
@ sixer :wub:
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
Jesus man, (sorry to be posting this here Derek but it is where it is) I post roll at lnf and so do quit a few other solid quitters. who's pissed in your sand box? I post roll at ktc too. is that ok or am i not welcome if I post roll where ever the hell I want? talk about tough love and drama but then go look at who's bring the drama and who's bring love man. NOLAQ any and every member/mod/admin who has a problem with other sites. perhaps my head is just in the sand but I don't see anyone working to destroy ktc. I've not said word one to any member here about where I post because it's my business but come on. I remember seeing posts that had links to other sites, ktc used to be about quitting wherever it worked for each quitter. It's in more that one post on ktc that this isn't the be all end all, it's an option. An option that worked for most everyone who's ever going to read this post - yep. The only tool that might work? I've never seen that posted here. I don't think you need to call anyone out NOLAQ - if you don't let members dual post just say so. IF that's a rule here it's a new one. I'm not positive but would bet this may result in a reply saying that this shit needs to be left somewhere where new quitters won't see it. where would that be? and what's with keeping dissent hidden and banned all of a sudden? Any newbie reading this isn't shoving shit in their lip and that's a good thing - newbie run through 15 intros that are 3 pages long or more and you'll see a bit of drama, you'll also see some awesome posts from solid quitters i'd bet. I see a few things that riled me up - the first was your reply to Derek on his intro post the other day, you don't have to love him but how many of your posts has he shit on? I also see in the above post: "this is no witch hunt" and "they are bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by." I know this interweb can be a bitch when it comes to reading intent, inflection, sarcasm in written word but back the hell off Derek. If anyone thinks he's a pawn being controlled by the evil loot that's just retarded and you don't know Derek. He's a quitter who just wants to do anything in his power to help other people quit. What's wrong with that? Who brought drama into his intro? who's taken it to yours? Where has Derek brought any drama to KTC??? You yourself have said that behind the scenes he's had issues with you, that's where he's kept them, behind the scenes or did I miss his post in your quit group or in your intro where he brought drama? Call me the drama queen, I'm cool with it, just be set to hear a fuck off headed back at you. not because I'm a billy bad ass, not because I think you'll fear me over a few words, not because I don't know who I am but because I do and if anyone wants to question my reasons for being here or Derek's for that matter I can tell you that you are paranoid, perhaps you need to look at yourself a bit harder. - I'm backing off with my hands up real slow, no bricks in hand - don't shoot. - fuloot, fumods, fuadmin, fumich34. 'na na' see hands in the air... end rant.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
KTC lost today. Plain and simple.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
There is a new guy that posted an intro 51 minutes ago by the name of Mayo. when grown men are done crying, wanting to leave, getting in personal bullshit beefs, allowing other big mouths from other sites to affect us, airing out dirty laundry in public, making assumption about the fucking ban word, and letting old issues affect you then feel free to drop him a line and support his new quit.
@ sixer :wub:
'boob'
It may be the jack and coke speaking, but sixer, you're sounding pretty good over there.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
KTC lost today. Plain and simple.
I cannot find the right words so i will echo what you said slug...KTC lost today.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
take what you want and leave the rest.
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Duplicate erase
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
IMO this should all take place in the battleground plenty has been recorded in Sir D's thread
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Just to be crystal clear here, personal animosity between quitters is unfortunate but normal. No one is being told to leave. Let's all remember that we are all quitters first and foremost. The rest is just noise. It's a shame personal issues came out like this, but fuck it - better here than on a loved one or pet.
So in closing, fuck you all, where is the nachos, and can we just get back to kicking the nic bitch in the teeth, guts, vag, whatever?
Thank you drive through
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
IMO this should all take place in the battleground plenty has been recorded in Sir D's thread
Good idea trauma...
here's the link. topic/1009047/24/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009047/24/#new)
lets leave intros for those that are balls deep in day 1
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
IMO this should all take place in the battleground plenty has been recorded in Sir D's thread
Good idea trauma...
here's the link. topic/1009047/24/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009047/24/#new)
lets leave intros for those that are balls deep in day 1
Sage Wisdom..
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
I call bulshit on this.
You need both? The other site didn't even exist until a couple moths ago. You running all this "drama" back to the other site?
I think Sir D is a lead pipe quitter and has the right to his opinion and to write whatever he wants in his intro.
I also feel the admins/mods have to be on guard for minions from the other site coming over here stirring shit up and trying to turn us against each other.
Because if you think LooT, Evil, and the bunch of the other bags who went over there don't want to see this house divided, then your fooling yourself.
I've seen a ton of people in the business world get pissed off at the place they've been at for a long time and go off and start their own business, thinking they can do it better. EVERY SINGLE TIME, they want to CRUSH their former place and see it crumble. How do they do this? Bad mouth the place they were at for years and use relationships they built there to try and steal their clients.
So I don't blame the mods/admins for being on guard a bit.
But as far as Sir D goes, I don't think this is the case here. Friction is common and can be squashed. It's the pot stirrers stoking the flames that I'd be looking out for.
Quit on...
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
IMO this should all take place in the battleground plenty has been recorded in Sir D's thread
Good idea trauma...
here's the link. topic/1009047/24/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009047/24/#new)
lets leave intros for those that are balls deep in day 1
Sage Wisdom..
battlefield is open.. seed post in place.
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
IMO this should all take place in the battleground plenty has been recorded in Sir D's thread
Good idea trauma...
here's the link. topic/1009047/24/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009047/24/#new)
lets leave intros for those that are balls deep in day 1
Sage Wisdom..
Can anyone tell me what the problem is if there is another, or even 10,000 other quit sites? Isn't nicotine addiction the common enemy? Personally, I think making multiple promises to multiple quit brothers/sisters can only strengthen my quit, am I wrong?
I will continue to post my quit in as many places as I feel necessary - and that includes KTC and LNF.
If that is a problem here, please let me know....
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
I call bulshit on this.
You need both? The other site didn't even exist until a couple moths ago. You running all this "drama" back to the other site?
I think Sir D is a lead pipe quitter and has the right to his opinion and to write whatever he wants in his intro.
I also feel the admins/mods have to be on guard for minions from the other site coming over here stirring shit up and trying to turn us against each other.
Because if you think LooT, Evil, and the bunch of the other bags who went over there don't want to see this house divided, then your fooling yourself.
I've seen a ton of people in the business world get pissed off at the place they've been at for a long time and go off and start their own business, thinking they can do it better. EVERY SINGLE TIME, they want to CRUSH their former place and see it crumble. How do they do this? Bad mouth the place they were at for years and use relationships they built there to try and steal their clients.
So I don't blame the mods/admins for being on guard a bit.
But as far as Sir D goes, I don't think this is the case here. Friction is common and can be squashed. It's the pot stirrers stoking the flames that I'd be looking out for.
Quit on...
Respectfully disagree that it needs to be that way when the matter at hand is not business and there need not be competition. Sure they could be that way but it gets them nowhere if they do. But overreacting to a perceived but unreal threat here is a danger. I'm bothered by a lot of what I've seen since that recent split. Taking the high and unparanoid road may be better for this place if middle management here can pull that off. The risk is alienating too many people here by overreacting. My opinion, take it or leave it.
Also, it appears that this intro has now been "224-ed" - sorry for my contribution to that Sir Derek, if it bothers you. You have been a cornerstone for my quit from very early on.
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conversation continuing over in battlefield....
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
IMO this should all take place in the battleground plenty has been recorded in Sir D's thread
Good idea trauma...
here's the link. topic/1009047/24/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009047/24/#new)
lets leave intros for those that are balls deep in day 1
Sage Wisdom..
Can anyone tell me what the problem is if there is another, or even 10,000 other quit sites? Isn't nicotine addiction the common enemy? Personally, I think making multiple promises to multiple quit brothers/sisters can only strengthen my quit, am I wrong?
I will continue to post my quit in as many places as I feel necessary - and that includes KTC and LNF.
If that is a problem here, please let me know....
305 days of 100% posting and SirD is a huge part of it. I too post at LNF and KTC, if you don't like it, then ban me. Let me know if I am no longer wanted around....I don't play games, don't care about your little turf wars, and it's a sad day when yet another great quitter, supporter and friend is driven away. If this is my last post here....thank you to all my friends here that have helped....you have my number
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I'll say it. I don't care if the powers that be think I should step down for it, but I've had enough.
No one. NO ONE of color here, has asked for, expected, or even hinted that Derek step down. I've PM'd him. I publicly invite SD to share those with you all. I won't do it, because he might not want that, but if he does, I'm down with that.
Why? Because behind the scenes, he has accused me, and another Mod of pushing him out, and calling for a vote.
Not true. Period. I have tried to offer my advice and help as best I can. Tough love, no bullshit, brutal honesty, but that's what I am.
You want to know who is behind this? Loot, and his minions. They are the ones that are putting doubts in SD'd head. Not us. They are the bullies, trying to sow discontent, and I'm done with them. They have a couple people who still post here, thinking they are innocuous, but I am pretty much ready to call them out. Stand by.
Believe me. Don't. Don't care anymore. This is ridiculous! This is being driven by a few people who have taken their ball and moved on to an echo chamber. This is no witch hunt.
Be done with this. Derek, grow a pair, and figure out what and who you are. But stop being a drama queen. Brick by brick, this house stands. No one man can crush us. FUlooT.
THAT IS ENOUGH
YOU of anyone are one to talk. YOU are one of the moderators who have blasted me for posting for someone in an imaginary way, Thereby questioning my integrity. We teach new quitters when they cannot be available to post their word to contact another to do so. AND THEN YOU QUESTION IT. FROM ME?
Well Sir, I am not longer behind it is out here. In my Intro. YES YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS. What you did is not of worthy of being of color in my book.
I am and have been my own man, maybe you should talk to those who have met me. Sorry you are up there and not able to meet too many people in person.
And to that for the other moderator that I have been truly disgusted in his out of the blue personal attack of me is KLARK - Yes you of the PM for the comment to the 6th stage of my post. You know No it is not for looking to backstab anyone. Name one quitter that I have backstabbed and have not helped in their quit (maybe ask farmerjohn who I got helped to register from the chat room just yesterday....and yeah you can look that up on the chat log).
So the two of you and the other admins, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I have done nothing but support KTC in my 2 years here. SO WHAT if I had a difference of opinion and style and stepped down from being a moderator. DID YOU EVER THINK that it is because your style and mine don't mesh. Did you ever think that what I saw going on turned my stomach to where the bickering and name calling I could not take anymore.
And yes If I am not here KTC will go on, I have no doubt of that. Will it help thousands of people, yes it will.
I did not want this out there, I hate naming names, but when an organization lets its leaders behave like that, independent of the overall ideals, then I don't know what to think anymore.
I'm sad. I'm sad because my "heroes" are raging, against one another. My biggest fear besides losing my job, my car, my roof, is this. I fear losing my quit sanctuary. KTC. So much has happened since I joined. I'm only 180 days quit, and shit has escalated in those 180 days.
I'm quit with all of you. I have no boundary lines. We are one. We are a team. You'll say, "no we aren't, so and so are mother f'ers and losers" and so forth. With every battle we rage against one another, we become weaker. There are good battles, and weak battles. This is a weak battle in my honest opinion.
I'm hurt....but you can bet your goddamn ass you'll see me in here tomorrow. I'm not losing my 100% roll posting status for some meager bullshit.
'Popcorn'
We need a reality quit TV show.
Can you imagine putting mods, admins, new quitters, old quitters in a quit house.
Maybe Coach Steve should produce the Glass House Quit reality show.
No disrespect to anyone. Damn I Love KTC drama.
I've starred in some episodes. Deep breaths, sleep it off, stay quit.
Oh seriously saying mods are buttfuckers...oh my guts hurt. I needed this. Nice escape.
You all piss me off but your all my butt fucking quit brothers!
Stay Ghey you psycho characters.
For the record, I also post at the place next door. It helps me, as does KTC. I need both.
Frankly my dear, I could give a damn...I am still quit as is every individual that reads this. KTC has lost some and won some in 2014. Is that what is meant when it is said "it is going to suck until it doesn't"?
Rough day for damn sure.
IMO this should all take place in the battleground plenty has been recorded in Sir D's thread
Good idea trauma...
here's the link. topic/1009047/24/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009047/24/#new)
lets leave intros for those that are balls deep in day 1
Sage Wisdom..
Can anyone tell me what the problem is if there is another, or even 10,000 other quit sites? Isn't nicotine addiction the common enemy? Personally, I think making multiple promises to multiple quit brothers/sisters can only strengthen my quit, am I wrong?
I will continue to post my quit in as many places as I feel necessary - and that includes KTC and LNF.
If that is a problem here, please let me know....
305 days of 100% posting and SirD is a huge part of it. I too post at LNF and KTC, if you don't like it, then ban me. Let me know if I am no longer wanted around....I don't play games, don't care about your little turf wars, and it's a sad day when yet another great quitter, supporter and friend is driven away. If this is my last post here....thank you to all my friends here that have helped....you have my number
See this?^^^ you guys in color? This is where a lot of us are lately. This is a solid quitter with much to give. He will always be that way. Something is going wrong when you cause this sort of frustration in some of the strongest members among the group repeatedly. And that's what's happening. Your choice whether you point fingers or deal with it. I'm with Dave and Derek and Jbradley and Eric. Lose the paranoia and a bit of the egos - it'll do you wonders.
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conversation continuing over in battlefield....
coughcough
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Drama for dramas sake.
Quitter on quitter aggression.
No one is being banned. For fucks sake. If you are gonna throw your 2 cents in please at least read first.
No one gives a fuck if you post here there or both.
Some of y'all need to get in the ring. (http://youtu.be/qMg5VZI56T4)
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Drama for dramas sake.
Quitter on quitter aggression.
No one is being banned. For fucks sake. If you are gonna throw your 2 cents in please at least read first.
No one gives a fuck if you post here there or both.
Some of y'all need to get in the ring. (http://youtu.be/qMg5VZI56T4)
Do you really think this post helped things, showed leadership? I'm not following that. Sorry. Point proven.
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Drama for dramas sake.
Quitter on quitter aggression.
No one is being banned. For fucks sake. If you are gonna throw your 2 cents in please at least read first.
No one gives a fuck if you post here there or both.
Some of y'all need to get in the ring. (http://youtu.be/qMg5VZI56T4)
Do you really think this post helped things, showed leadership? I'm not following that. Sorry. Point proven.
I'll quit with you any day Brett!!! You are my brother!
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All I will add here, I am proud to quit with you every day. Proud to call you my brother.
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All I will add here, I am proud to quit with you every day. Proud to call you my brother.
I'll second that!
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All I will add here, I am proud to quit with you every day. Proud to call you my brother.
I'll second that!
I'll 3rd it.
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Call it done, move on, and cut the fucking crap. Quit wherever you so choose. I have people I call friends, at least virtually, on each side of this fence. Enough is enough. You ALL need to grow a pair, pull up your big boy pants and move on. I've dealt with enough bullshit in my life in the last year to know this looks like petty shit. If there is truly this much time in y'alls day, then you ought to find a better way to occupy it. Tearing up the site and its reputation for this he said, she said, high school bully bullshit paints everyone in a bad light. How many people have you all missed out on helping while you were sowing your own seeds of discontent? See I thought once you reached a point where you started developing other phases of your lives, you could step away from bickering and drama. Evidently you all crave the shit like a fat kid likes cake. Step away from the "issue" and move on. You don't see Jag, myself, or other vets taking sides or otherwise. Don't read so fucking deep into this shit. It was said two pages back but it evidently bears repeating since this has continued.
KTC and its quitters who come here for sanctuary are the losers here. And don't fucking forget it.
Don't like what I wrote... I don't care. I come here to quit, bottom line.
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Call it done, move on, and cut the fucking crap. Quit wherever you so choose. I have people I call friends, at least virtually, on each side of this fence. Enough is enough. You ALL need to grow a pair, pull up your big boy pants and move on. I've dealt with enough bullshit in my life in the last year to know this looks like petty shit. If there is truly this much time in y'alls day, then you ought to find a better way to occupy it. Tearing up the site and its reputation for this he said, she said, high school bully bullshit paints everyone in a bad light. How many people have you all missed out on helping while you were sowing your own seeds of discontent? See I thought once you reached a point where you started developing other phases of your lives, you could step away from bickering and drama. Evidently you all crave the shit like a fat kid likes cake. Step away from the "issue" and move on. You don't see Jag, myself, or other vets taking sides or otherwise. Don't read so fucking deep into this shit. It was said two pages back but it evidently bears repeating since this has continued.
KTC and its quitters who come here for sanctuary are the losers here. And don't fucking forget it.
Don't like what I wrote... I don't care. I come here to quit, bottom line.
I like cake...and pie.
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Call it done, move on, and cut the fucking crap. Quit wherever you so choose. I have people I call friends, at least virtually, on each side of this fence. Enough is enough. You ALL need to grow a pair, pull up your big boy pants and move on. I've dealt with enough bullshit in my life in the last year to know this looks like petty shit. If there is truly this much time in y'alls day, then you ought to find a better way to occupy it. Tearing up the site and its reputation for this he said, she said, high school bully bullshit paints everyone in a bad light. How many people have you all missed out on helping while you were sowing your own seeds of discontent? See I thought once you reached a point where you started developing other phases of your lives, you could step away from bickering and drama. Evidently you all crave the shit like a fat kid likes cake. Step away from the "issue" and move on. You don't see Jag, myself, or other vets taking sides or otherwise. Don't read so fucking deep into this shit. It was said two pages back but it evidently bears repeating since this has continued.
KTC and its quitters who come here for sanctuary are the losers here. And don't fucking forget it.
Don't like what I wrote... I don't care. I come here to quit, bottom line.
I like cake...and pie.
Hair pie?
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Call it done, move on, and cut the fucking crap. Quit wherever you so choose. I have people I call friends, at least virtually, on each side of this fence. Enough is enough. You ALL need to grow a pair, pull up your big boy pants and move on. I've dealt with enough bullshit in my life in the last year to know this looks like petty shit. If there is truly this much time in y'alls day, then you ought to find a better way to occupy it. Tearing up the site and its reputation for this he said, she said, high school bully bullshit paints everyone in a bad light. How many people have you all missed out on helping while you were sowing your own seeds of discontent? See I thought once you reached a point where you started developing other phases of your lives, you could step away from bickering and drama. Evidently you all crave the shit like a fat kid likes cake. Step away from the "issue" and move on. You don't see Jag, myself, or other vets taking sides or otherwise. Don't read so fucking deep into this shit. It was said two pages back but it evidently bears repeating since this has continued.
KTC and its quitters who come here for sanctuary are the losers here. And don't fucking forget it.
Don't like what I wrote... I don't care. I come here to quit, bottom line.
I like cake...and pie.
Hair pie?
Ball bag pie is my fav.
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Sorry but another long one to get some things out of my head and heart.....
Well heading back the drawing board. No not a cave, but leaning on what I have been taught in life and then trying to apply it as I move forward. For those that know me, know that I do analyze situations, and sometimes overanalyze them. Well I guess when one goes through tough times they fall back on the things from life that they have learned and can relate to. For this I fall back on the course I took as a boy scout leader, the Woodbadge Training. Now this is training for the adult leaders shaped around the properties of leadership, team building and conflict resolution. They had us watch the movie Remember the Titans to show us the development that needs to occur between people to work as one, in one common cause. In particular two scenes really stand out in my mind recently:
The first is the scene of the 2 captains during the training camp
Bertier: Listen, I'm Gerry, you're Julius. Let's just get some particulars and get this over with.
Julius: Particulars? Man, no matter what I tell you, you ain't never gonna know nothing about me.
Bertier: Listen, I ain't running any more of these three-a-days
Julius: Well, what I've got to say, you really don't wanna hear 'cuz honesty ain't too high upon your people's priorities.
Bertier: Honesty? You want honesty? Honestly, I think you're nothing. Nothing but a pure waste of God-given talent. You don't listen to nobody, man! Not even Doc or Boone! Shiver push on the line everytime and you blow right past 'em! Push 'em, pull 'em, do something! You run over everyone in this league, and everytime you do you leave one of your teammates hanging out to dry, me in particular!
Julius: Why should I give a hoot about you, huh? Or anyone else out there? You wanna talk about the ways you're the captain?
Bertier: Right.
Julius: You got a job?
Bertier: I've got a job.
Julius: You been doing your job?
Bertier: I've been doing my job.
Julius: Then why don't you tell your white buddies to block for Rev better? Because they have not blocked for him worth a blood nickel, and you know it! Nobody plays. Yourself included. I'm supposed to wear myself out for the team? What team? Nah, nah what I'm gonna do is look out for myself and I'ma get mine.
Bertier: See man, that's the worst attitude I ever heard.
Julius: Attitude reflects leadership, captain.
The second is when Julius sees Bertier in the hospital after the car accident:
Bertier: Well, you think I look banged up, you should see my Camaro.
Julius: Man, I sure am sorry, man. I should have been there with you.
Bertier: What are you talking about? You would've been in that bed right next to me.
Julius: You can't be hurt like this. You - you're Superman.
Bertier: I was afraid of you, Julius. I only saw what I was afraid of, and now I know I was only hating my brother.
Julius: I'll tell you what, though. Um, when all this is over... me and you are gonna move out to the same neighborhood together. OK? And, um... and we'll get old, and we'll get fat. And there ain't gonna be all this black-white between us.
Bertier: [Chuckles] Left side.
Julius: Strong side.
I guess I am seeing a struggle going on, where logically there should not be one. I see the benefit to helping others as this is a fight against our addiction to nicotine in all forms. I am a part of the overall league to do just that and that the teams are there for that continuous fight. But remember that in our fight we have to be perfect in daily against this poison or we will lose. And perfect for 788 days I have been so far. And when I wake tomorrow I will follow my game plan to make it another perfect day.
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Love it
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Brotherhood......
Family.......
putting yourself in the right company (ie having the numbers, connections and USING them)
that is what being clean and quit it all about.
Just live it.
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Brotherhood......
Family.......
putting yourself in the right company (ie having the numbers, connections and USING them)
that is what being clean and quit it all about.
Just live it.
BAM! Goes the truth hammer!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Well done Derek.
Not like you to miss two days of roll. Everthing ok?
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Thank you all, it is much appreciated.
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Congrats SD on the 8th floor! Truly awesome. Keep up the good fight brother!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Congrats Derek! Thanks for being here and being an active supporter for us all. Look at all the peeps here! Awesome!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
will just say unbelievable.....
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
will just say unbelievable.....
One more for the list of supporters here Sir D! I'm grateful you are here and active.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
Thanks AJ, W2W
I am quit and that is all that matters to me and my family (including those who are my extended family).
Its with a lot of less respect for some others who feel it necessary to lash out, but hey I got big shoulders and that armor that protects me in more ways than one.
Be strong everyone, no matter what, as it will not be long until you are feeling the freedom from the poison that we had used for so long....
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STOP IT PEOPLE, JUST FUCKING STOP IT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
Thanks AJ, W2W
I am quit and that is all that matters to me and my family (including those who are my extended family).
Its with a lot of less respect for some others who feel it necessary to lash out, but hey I got big shoulders and that armor that protects me in more ways than one.
Be strong everyone, no matter what, as it will not be long until you are feeling the freedom from the poison that we had used for so long....
I read it exactly as written. Maybe I need to read between the lines.
"You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid" I read as you have my word, whether I post roll (written, spoken) or not (unsaid).
So yes, I was asking Derek if he was saying he felt he no longer needed to post roll, since he missed for 2 days just last week.
How was that unclear? :blink:
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
I am with AJ and Worktowin. I did not like the "feel" of the comment either and hope I misinterpreted it j2b.
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STOP IT PEOPLE, JUST FUCKING STOP IT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY.
bump
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
I am with AJ and Worktowin. I did not like the "feel" of the comment either and hope I misinterpreted it j2b.
Bump.
Hey snowflake... I like ya and all, but I really don't need you telling me when to "fucking stop it", all Big Nasty style.
Personally, I found it offensive when people were publicly reporting on admin posting patterns, and likewise I find it offensive to see that admin are publicly reporting on star quitter posting patterns.
The infighting on this thread needs to stop. And sometimes we need to have a confrontation to make the bullshit stop. Some people call that an intervention. I'm calling it bullshit.
By the way, I think if you look at my posting past - you will find these confrontations on my part are rare. I'm no admin, but I feel a responsibility to do the right thing on this site. And I will continue doing so.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
I am with AJ and Worktowin. I did not like the "feel" of the comment either and hope I misinterpreted it j2b.
Bump.
Hey snowflake... I like ya and all, but I really don't need you telling me when to "fucking stop it", all Big Nasty style.
Personally, I found it offensive when people were publicly reporting on admin posting patterns, and likewise I find it offensive to see that admin are publicly reporting on star quitter posting patterns.
The infighting on this thread needs to stop. And sometimes we need to have a confrontation to make the bullshit stop. Some people call that an intervention. I'm calling it bullshit.
By the way, I think if you look at my posting past - you will find these confrontations on my part are rare. I'm no admin, but I feel a responsibility to do the right thing on this site. And I will continue doing so.
worktowin... Thank you. Just stumbled on this "bullshit" now.
Fucking calling out Derek with a sarcastic post. What the fuck gives, J2B?
Never heard Derek say he was cured or found a cure.
So what gives with me? Derek is a personal supporter and quit buddy of mine. You'd defend and support any of your quit buddies.
Take what you need, leave the rest.
I quit with Derek, my June 14 group, and KTC.
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"Interfering in someone else's argument is as foolish as yanking a dog's ears." Proverbs 26:17
Nice work on the 800 derek
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Derek,
I just want to tell you what a great man I think you are. You have been such a great supporter of so many quitters over the last 800+ days of your quit and I personally want to thank you for that. Often people are quick to judge, point out shortcomings and misread or wrongly interpret written words. Please, my friend, don't let anyone get you down. Hold your head high and know that YOU are a genuinely good soul and have more heart for helping quitters than any other quitter I know. I am so proud to call you my true friend and brother in quit.
Thank you for being you!
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"Interfering in someone else's argument is as foolish as yanking a dog's ears." Proverbs 26:17
Nice work on the 800 derek
Looks like I'm late to the party but congrats on the 8th floor, Mother T.
Proud to quit with you EDD.
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"Interfering in someone else's argument is as foolish as yanking a dog's ears." Proverbs 26:17
Nice work on the 800 derek
Looks like I'm late to the party but congrats on the 8th floor, Mother T.
Proud to quit with you EDD.
Congrats!!!
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Congrats on 800! Keep on being you!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
Nice 800 Sir D. Keep up the bad assery!!!!
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
Nice 800 Sir D. Keep up the bad assery!!!!
Seemed like Eric squelched this animosity but my hell, during congrats for an acomplishment,
J2B pops off at SD's expression of gratitude and resolve that he is still and always will be at war with nicotine? Really?
Then J2B acts like his post wasn't hostile?
This is how I interpreted your post...
Passive-aggressive behavior is the indirect expression of hostility, such as through procrastination, sarcasm, stubbornness, sullenness, or deliberate or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible.
For research purposes, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) revision IV describes passive-aggressive personality disorder as a "pervasive pattern of negativistic attitudes and passive resistance to demands for adequate performance in social and occupational situations".
J2B - addicts are passive aggressive, and excuse makers.
You may be quit, but are you recovering?
I don't know if nicotine has a term for quit but not recovering.
In AA the term is, "dry drunk". I sense you are a dry quitter.
That may piss you off but this is not passive on my part. Your post exemplified that of a dry drunk.
I may be wrong but I read your text to be passive-aggressive.
You wanted to piss SD off. Can you admit that?
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
Nice 800 Sir D. Keep up the bad assery!!!!
Seemed like Eric squelched this animosity but my hell, during congrats for an acomplishment,
J2B pops off at SD's expression of gratitude and resolve that he is still and always will be at war with nicotine? Really?
Then J2B acts like his post wasn't hostile?
This is how I interpreted your post...
Passive-aggressive behavior is the indirect expression of hostility, such as through procrastination, sarcasm, stubbornness, sullenness, or deliberate or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible.
For research purposes, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) revision IV describes passive-aggressive personality disorder as a "pervasive pattern of negativistic attitudes and passive resistance to demands for adequate performance in social and occupational situations".
J2B - addicts are passive aggressive, and excuse makers.
You may be quit, but are you recovering?
I don't know if nicotine has a term for quit but not recovering.
In AA the term is, "dry drunk". I sense you are a dry quitter.
That may piss you off but this is not passive on my part. Your post exemplified that of a dry drunk.
I may be wrong but I read your text to be passive-aggressive.
You wanted to piss SD off. Can you admit that?
Proud of you and your rock solid quit Derek! You are one awesome quit brother and I am so glad to also count you as a friend.
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Congrats on reaching the 8th floor, keep leading the way Derek!
Outstanding performance, Sir Derek! Quit on!
Well done Derek!
(why haven't you posted roll in 2 days? CavMan surely has noticed...)
'wave'
Awesome work Derek! Thanks for always being there for a helping hand.
Great Job Derek!! You the Man! Very nice milestone.
ODAAT and NAFAR.
Glad you are here and not in the cancer ward.
Thanks for all you do.
Cheers.
WTG Nic KILLER!!!!!
8th floor! Now ainÂ’t that somethinÂ’!?!?
Well done! You are a true quitter, that exemplifies the scout law in quitting! I'm very proud to quit with you every day Sir!!!
Welcome to day 801, I'm a day late, but wanted to offer my congrats.
Congrats my quit brother!
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry I'm a couple of days late on this but congrats Derek
Awesomeness in here. Congrats Sir D!
'oh yeah' SD!!!
Thank you again all, and Trust me that I am clean and never again will use (at least today). You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid.
Congrats on 800.
You will always have my word written, spoken or unsaid
Why is that? Is roll no longer necessary for you? Just curious.
Please, let me in on the cure if you found one.
Super classy backhanded comment j2b... What are you reading into that statement?
You're seeing shadows where there are none.
I read it to mean "I'm solid in every way, shape, and form".
Pay no attention to the silly admin Derek... Rock on buddy.
Sometimes things in writing are interpreted differently than they were intended to be interpreted. I hope, j2b, that this is the case in what you wrote to Derek.
A few weeks ago Derek, correctly or incorrectly, believed he was being pushed away from ktc. To say that there was an outcry from some bad ass quitters and some downright despicable response from some high level leaders would be an understatement. To this day I don't understand what all went down, but I sure am glad Derek is here.
Have you seen his Facebook page? His profile picture is him in a KTC shirt. No one... NO ONE... Embodies the values of KTC like this man. Sometimes a little too much as he has written in his intro.
So I hope I am misinterpreting the comment and hope AJ did too.
If we did not, please be very direct and clear on what any issue with this model quitter is so we can all man up and clear it up, and get back to some good old fashioned life saving again.
Nice 800 Sir D. Keep up the bad assery!!!!
Seemed like Eric squelched this animosity but my hell, during congrats for an acomplishment,
J2B pops off at SD's expression of gratitude and resolve that he is still and always will be at war with nicotine? Really?
Then J2B acts like his post wasn't hostile?
This is how I interpreted your post...
Passive-aggressive behavior is the indirect expression of hostility, such as through procrastination, sarcasm, stubbornness, sullenness, or deliberate or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible.
For research purposes, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) revision IV describes passive-aggressive personality disorder as a "pervasive pattern of negativistic attitudes and passive resistance to demands for adequate performance in social and occupational situations".
J2B - addicts are passive aggressive, and excuse makers.
You may be quit, but are you recovering?
I don't know if nicotine has a term for quit but not recovering.
In AA the term is, "dry drunk". I sense you are a dry quitter.
That may piss you off but this is not passive on my part. Your post exemplified that of a dry drunk.
I may be wrong but I read your text to be passive-aggressive.
You wanted to piss SD off. Can you admit that?
Proud of you and your rock solid quit Derek! You are one awesome quit brother and I am so glad to also count you as a friend.
Congrats Sir.....
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Proud to say I am a father of a great son (of sons, but will speak of the one here).
Turned 13 years old earlier this year, so in terms of the game of Baseball, this puts him on the larger regulation field now.
Now without much practice, we had our first game today. He started the first inning at 2nd base, but after only getting 1 out our pitcher melted down (his first time too and felt aweful for him) and our coach asked Nolan to pick the team up. Well a line of 1 hit, 0 runs, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts in 2 and 2/3rds inning for his first time pitching from 60 feet 6 inches. And throwing his change up very effectively.
I cannot be more proud of him...and as coach made me feel real good too.
*** and as side note, 2 pieces gum, 2 pieces sugarfree candy and a little bit of the fake put in the gum as had no dang flavor in it....but no thought of even putting nicotine in my body with the other coach doing it...that is win #2 for the day.
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Proud to say I am a father of a great son (of sons, but will speak of the one here).
Turned 13 years old earlier this year, so in terms of the game of Baseball, this puts him on the larger regulation field now.
Now without much practice, we had our first game today. He started the first inning at 2nd base, but after only getting 1 out our pitcher melted down (his first time too and felt aweful for him) and our coach asked Nolan to pick the team up. Well a line of 1 hit, 0 runs, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts in 2 and 2/3rds inning for his first time pitching from 60 feet 6 inches. And throwing his change up very effectively.
I cannot be more proud of him...and as coach made me feel real good too.
*** and as side note, 2 pieces gum, 2 pieces sugarfree candy and a little bit of the fake put in the gum as had no dang flavor in it....but no thought of even putting nicotine in my body with the other coach doing it...that is win #2 for the day.
That's awesome Derek! You know there is a thread called 'Proud mama and papas' in the Wildcard section, right? That would be a great place to post this!
Keep up the great work!
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Proud to say I am a father of a great son (of sons, but will speak of the one here).
Turned 13 years old earlier this year, so in terms of the game of Baseball, this puts him on the larger regulation field now.
Now without much practice, we had our first game today. He started the first inning at 2nd base, but after only getting 1 out our pitcher melted down (his first time too and felt aweful for him) and our coach asked Nolan to pick the team up. Well a line of 1 hit, 0 runs, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts in 2 and 2/3rds inning for his first time pitching from 60 feet 6 inches. And throwing his change up very effectively.
I cannot be more proud of him...and as coach made me feel real good too.
*** and as side note, 2 pieces gum, 2 pieces sugarfree candy and a little bit of the fake put in the gum as had no dang flavor in it....but no thought of even putting nicotine in my body with the other coach doing it...that is win #2 for the day.
That's awesome Derek! You know there is a thread called 'Proud mama and papas' in the Wildcard section, right? That would be a great place to post this!
Keep up the great work!
I decided to me it was more important here. As this is another part of me.
This is the game of baseball which to me no longer means the need to be combined with nicotine in any form.
It also shows me one of my blood family that is benefitting from myself being quit and the time I get to enjoy.
So yes I know the other threads. And I will post where I feel this is most appropriate. And for this meaning is why I posted it here.
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Friends and Family, gather around.
This posting comes as I think about my oldest son, who just turned 16 years old this weekend. It is one thing as parents that we try to teach to our kids (and others who have friends would tell them similarly), and that is to always watch out for those who they surround themselves with. The "don't fall in with the bad crowd" talk. I was thinking of this and found things very similar.
Now let me state, that when we used, it is not that we fell into the bad crowd. Maybe it would be better to say it was the wrong crowd. So there we were when we started, around the wrong crowd and the peer pressure and what may have you, that led us to using in the past for as long as we did.
Then it happened. We made that decision to become clean. We wanted to get rid of nicotine and live our life without it. And the way we did that is to find the 'Right' crowd to hang out with. We found those who wanted it out of their lives too, and those who had already gotten it out of their lives and it is with this crowd that we associated our self with to get to the points that we are today.
Along that way we not only gained the support we needed but we also then were able to give back, and to spread the knowledge, to spread the feeling, to make that crowd a little bit bigger. And when you get crowds that big, there will be some of whom you will make those close connections with, to where you will call one another not only friends, but family.
So, my table is always open for those who are wanting to join the right crowd when it comes to our daily decision to live clean. I bring my 827 days, my open hand, and my friendship to it each and every day.
Be good, Be clean.
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Friends and Family, gather around.
This posting comes as I think about my oldest son, who just turned 16 years old this weekend. It is one thing as parents that we try to teach to our kids (and others who have friends would tell them similarly), and that is to always watch out for those who they surround themselves with. The "don't fall in with the bad crowd" talk. I was thinking of this and found things very similar.
Now let me state, that when we used, it is not that we fell into the bad crowd. Maybe it would be better to say it was the wrong crowd. So there we were when we started, around the wrong crowd and the peer pressure and what may have you, that led us to using in the past for as long as we did.
Then it happened. We made that decision to become clean. We wanted to get rid of nicotine and live our life without it. And the way we did that is to find the 'Right' crowd to hang out with. We found those who wanted it out of their lives too, and those who had already gotten it out of their lives and it is with this crowd that we associated our self with to get to the points that we are today.
Along that way we not only gained the support we needed but we also then were able to give back, and to spread the knowledge, to spread the feeling, to make that crowd a little bit bigger. And when you get crowds that big, there will be some of whom you will make those close connections with, to where you will call one another not only friends, but family.
So, my table is always open for those who are wanting to join the right crowd when it comes to our daily decision to live clean. I bring my 827 days, my open hand, and my friendship to it each and every day.
Be good, Be clean.
Looking for the "like" button....
Happy 16th to lil sir.
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Friends and Family, gather around.
This posting comes as I think about my oldest son, who just turned 16 years old this weekend. It is one thing as parents that we try to teach to our kids (and others who have friends would tell them similarly), and that is to always watch out for those who they surround themselves with. The "don't fall in with the bad crowd" talk. I was thinking of this and found things very similar.
Now let me state, that when we used, it is not that we fell into the bad crowd. Maybe it would be better to say it was the wrong crowd. So there we were when we started, around the wrong crowd and the peer pressure and what may have you, that led us to using in the past for as long as we did.
Then it happened. We made that decision to become clean. We wanted to get rid of nicotine and live our life without it. And the way we did that is to find the 'Right' crowd to hang out with. We found those who wanted it out of their lives too, and those who had already gotten it out of their lives and it is with this crowd that we associated our self with to get to the points that we are today.
Along that way we not only gained the support we needed but we also then were able to give back, and to spread the knowledge, to spread the feeling, to make that crowd a little bit bigger. And when you get crowds that big, there will be some of whom you will make those close connections with, to where you will call one another not only friends, but family.
So, my table is always open for those who are wanting to join the right crowd when it comes to our daily decision to live clean. I bring my 827 days, my open hand, and my friendship to it each and every day.
Be good, Be clean.
Looking for the "like" button....
Happy 16th to lil sir.
I am the people your mother warned you about! 'oh yeah'
Hope you are doing well SD!
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Friends and Family, gather around.
This posting comes as I think about my oldest son, who just turned 16 years old this weekend. It is one thing as parents that we try to teach to our kids (and others who have friends would tell them similarly), and that is to always watch out for those who they surround themselves with. The "don't fall in with the bad crowd" talk. I was thinking of this and found things very similar.
Now let me state, that when we used, it is not that we fell into the bad crowd. Maybe it would be better to say it was the wrong crowd. So there we were when we started, around the wrong crowd and the peer pressure and what may have you, that led us to using in the past for as long as we did.
Then it happened. We made that decision to become clean. We wanted to get rid of nicotine and live our life without it. And the way we did that is to find the 'Right' crowd to hang out with. We found those who wanted it out of their lives too, and those who had already gotten it out of their lives and it is with this crowd that we associated our self with to get to the points that we are today.
Along that way we not only gained the support we needed but we also then were able to give back, and to spread the knowledge, to spread the feeling, to make that crowd a little bit bigger. And when you get crowds that big, there will be some of whom you will make those close connections with, to where you will call one another not only friends, but family.
So, my table is always open for those who are wanting to join the right crowd when it comes to our daily decision to live clean. I bring my 827 days, my open hand, and my friendship to it each and every day.
Be good, Be clean.
Looking for the "like" button....
Happy 16th to lil sir.
I am the people your mother warned you about! 'oh yeah'
Hope you are doing well SD!
I'm for positive peer pressure!
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Friends and Family, gather around.
This posting comes as I think about my oldest son, who just turned 16 years old this weekend. It is one thing as parents that we try to teach to our kids (and others who have friends would tell them similarly), and that is to always watch out for those who they surround themselves with. The "don't fall in with the bad crowd" talk. I was thinking of this and found things very similar.
Now let me state, that when we used, it is not that we fell into the bad crowd. Maybe it would be better to say it was the wrong crowd. So there we were when we started, around the wrong crowd and the peer pressure and what may have you, that led us to using in the past for as long as we did.
Then it happened. We made that decision to become clean. We wanted to get rid of nicotine and live our life without it. And the way we did that is to find the 'Right' crowd to hang out with. We found those who wanted it out of their lives too, and those who had already gotten it out of their lives and it is with this crowd that we associated our self with to get to the points that we are today.
Along that way we not only gained the support we needed but we also then were able to give back, and to spread the knowledge, to spread the feeling, to make that crowd a little bit bigger. And when you get crowds that big, there will be some of whom you will make those close connections with, to where you will call one another not only friends, but family.
So, my table is always open for those who are wanting to join the right crowd when it comes to our daily decision to live clean. I bring my 827 days, my open hand, and my friendship to it each and every day.
Be good, Be clean.
Looking for the "like" button....
Happy 16th to lil sir.
I am the people your mother warned you about! 'oh yeah'
Hope you are doing well SD!
I'm for positive peer pressure!
I like it, I like it.
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This goes in here now as I want you all to see what your 'Men of Color' have been up to. instead of helping others quit nicotine they have been trolling other sites using names like TRAPJAW and FOULMOUTH, and posting items like the below:
"Wow....So many new quitters....Pathetic. "
"Blah, blah, blah...You are so full of shit...This is pathetic.
I can't believe the losers on this site have chosen to follow the loot version of Jim Jones...P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.
Oh..Oops..The evil won version, or is it the conbud????....Whatever...
You ban me???? You declared war.....Steel yourself loot....tool...James Stewart....China Grove....Coming.... "
"How many one word post threads does this site think is necessary????
Good God.... "
So feel good about being quit and clean, but just take note as to what your leaders are up to. See if you can respect this, as I cannot anymore.
The Oct12 Round Table – A place to come together to tell of the battles, to celebrate victories and to discuss things as equals while people are side by side.
Well Merlin has foretold to me that he sees a vacancy soon at this table.
I can only say feel free to use it. Continue to celebrate when you are up as that means you are holding back your addiction for one more day. Use it as equals where we are all +1 each and every day. And do not be held a slave to anyone or anything, anymore.
To Avalon I go, Be good my friends.
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This goes in here now as I want you all to see what your 'Men of Color' have been up to. instead of helping others quit nicotine they have been trolling other sites using names like TRAPJAW and FOULMOUTH, and posting items like the below:
"Wow....So many new quitters....Pathetic. "
"Blah, blah, blah...You are so full of shit...This is pathetic.
I can't believe the losers on this site have chosen to follow the loot version of Jim Jones...P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.
Oh..Oops..The evil won version, or is it the conbud????....Whatever...
You ban me???? You declared war.....Steel yourself loot....tool...James Stewart....China Grove....Coming.... "
"How many one word post threads does this site think is necessary????
Good God.... "
So feel good about being quit and clean, but just take note as to what your leaders are up to. See if you can respect this, as I cannot anymore.
The Oct12 Round Table – A place to come together to tell of the battles, to celebrate victories and to discuss things as equals while people are side by side.
Well Merlin has foretold to me that he sees a vacancy soon at this table.
I can only say feel free to use it. Continue to celebrate when you are up as that means you are holding back your addiction for one more day. Use it as equals where we are all +1 each and every day. And do not be held a slave to anyone or anything, anymore.
To Avalon I go, Be good my friends.
I'm here to quit.
I don't really care who is sitting in a pope chair or how well the cardinals get along. I supported you Derek, but I don't like anything on the intro threads that isn't constructive to quitting. And this is anything but helpful.
Good luck at your new home. You will be missed, but I hope it brings you and ktc some peace.
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Later!
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shocker
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This goes in here now as I want you all to see what your 'Men of Color' have been up to. instead of helping others quit nicotine they have been trolling other sites using names like TRAPJAW and FOULMOUTH, and posting items like the below:
"Wow....So many new quitters....Pathetic. "
"Blah, blah, blah...You are so full of shit...This is pathetic.
I can't believe the losers on this site have chosen to follow the loot version of Jim Jones...P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.
Oh..Oops..The evil won version, or is it the conbud????....Whatever...
You ban me???? You declared war.....Steel yourself loot....tool...James Stewart....China Grove....Coming.... "
"How many one word post threads does this site think is necessary????
Good God.... "
So feel good about being quit and clean, but just take note as to what your leaders are up to. See if you can respect this, as I cannot anymore.
The Oct12 Round Table – A place to come together to tell of the battles, to celebrate victories and to discuss things as equals while people are side by side.
Well Merlin has foretold to me that he sees a vacancy soon at this table.
I can only say feel free to use it. Continue to celebrate when you are up as that means you are holding back your addiction for one more day. Use it as equals where we are all +1 each and every day. And do not be held a slave to anyone or anything, anymore.
To Avalon I go, Be good my friends.
Uh, ok. Is there a fact laden English version of this?
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OK, for those who have stumbled in here and have read this load of BS, I will bring you up to speed on the above rant.
SD has left this site to have his own little round table. In his new place, they have a troll, who has been banned from here many times and under many names. The rants SD refers to are from that troll named Rutten/Loudmouth/Guy/Caveman, and not from any active member of this site or our moderating/admin team.
SD - If you have proof to the contrary, please provide it. Next time, check your shit before you accuse anyone of being a troll from our management team! Tool knows who wrote that crap. Ask your dear leader.
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OK, for those who have stumbled in here and have read this load of BS, I will bring you up to speed on the above rant.
SD has left this site to have his own little round table. In his new place, they have a troll, who has been banned from here many times and under many names. The rants SD refers to are from that troll named Rutten/Loudmouth/Guy/Caveman, and not from any active member of this site or our moderating/admin team.
SD - If you have proof to the contrary, please provide it. Next time, check your shit before you accuse anyone of being a troll from our management team! Tool knows who wrote that crap. Ask your dear leader.
I PM'ed him and asked for a screen shot of moniker and ip addy of any offending post he thought was from someone here. If it's one of us, it will be dealt with.
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OK, for those who have stumbled in here and have read this load of BS, I will bring you up to speed on the above rant.
SD has left this site to have his own little round table. In his new place, they have a troll, who has been banned from here many times and under many names. The rants SD refers to are from that troll named Rutten/Loudmouth/Guy/Caveman, and not from any active member of this site or our moderating/admin team.
SD - If you have proof to the contrary, please provide it. Next time, check your shit before you accuse anyone of being a troll from our management team! Tool knows who wrote that crap. Ask your dear leader.
I PM'ed him and asked for a screen shot of moniker and ip addy of any offending post he thought was from someone here. If it's one of us, it will be dealt with.
No reason for more discussion here. If anyone has evidence that our people are trolling them, please send it to me privately and then post publicly if you don't hear back from me with a response. With that said, this thread is locked for the time being.
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Passing Day 1,150
Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.
But the past is the past.
There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.
We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.
As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.
So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.
Can I go back to the way things were, no.
Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.
Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!
I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
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Passing Day 1,150
Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.
But the past is the past.
There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.
We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.
As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.
So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.
Can I go back to the way things were, no.
Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.
Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!
I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.
You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.
KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.
1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.
Welcome back.
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Passing Day 1,150
Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.
But the past is the past.
There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.
We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.
As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.
So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.
Can I go back to the way things were, no.
Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.
Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!
I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.
You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.
KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.
1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.
Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.
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Passing Day 1,150
Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.
But the past is the past.
There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.
We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.
As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.
So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.
Can I go back to the way things were, no.
Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.
Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!
I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.
You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.
KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.
1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.
Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.
1,151 solid days of quit, 1,151 solid days of being one of the many support columns here, 1,151 consecutive days of selfishly and selflessly quitting for yourself. Glad you are always there when I need you Derek.
Thank you
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Passing Day 1,150
Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.
But the past is the past.
There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.
We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.
As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.
So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.
Can I go back to the way things were, no.
Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.
Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!
I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.
You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.
KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.
1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.
Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.
1,151 solid days of quit, 1,151 solid days of being one of the many support columns here, 1,151 consecutive days of selfishly and selflessly quitting for yourself. Glad you are always there when I need you Derek.
Thank you
Derek you were one of the first guys to reach out to me 2 plus years ago, when I was still figuring out how to post. So if you're back, I welcome you back with both arms. But I, along with most of the quitters on this site, have no idea what the fuck happened amongst the powers that be...and frankly I have no interest in finding out. All I know is I wake up and post roll. How everyone could have made a mess of that simple task is beyond me. That is still the bedrock that makes this site go.
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Passing Day 1,150
Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.
But the past is the past.
There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.
We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.
As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.
So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.
Can I go back to the way things were, no.
Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.
Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!
I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.
You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.
KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.
1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.
Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.
1,151 solid days of quit, 1,151 solid days of being one of the many support columns here, 1,151 consecutive days of selfishly and selflessly quitting for yourself. Glad you are always there when I need you Derek.
Thank you
Derek you were one of the first guys to reach out to me 2 plus years ago, when I was still figuring out how to post. So if you're back, I welcome you back with both arms. But I, along with most of the quitters on this site, have no idea what the fuck happened amongst the powers that be...and frankly I have no interest in finding out. All I know is I wake up and post roll. How everyone could have made a mess of that simple task is beyond me. That is still the bedrock that makes this site go.
^^^ YES!!!
Thank you dagranger for saying this!
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Passing Day 1,150
Well this place looks like it was trashed. There are cobwebs everywhere, the table has been overturned and a few chairs have been broken. But I guess it was deserved to be like this.
But the past is the past.
There is nothing that we can do today, that can change what has happened in the past.
We can only make a decision today to move forward in a positive direction to learn how to live our life clean and free from an addiction that ruled us.
As I look around, yes I see a mess, but I also see a very strong foundation. One built on trust and giving my word daily and then honoring it. It might be smaller than before but that is ok, as I learned something very important to me over the past 16 months or so. I learned that it is not the size of the foundation that is the most important, but rather the quality of how it is built. You see, the foundation I have at the core, the one that remains today is more solid than any stone or metal known to man. It’s the parts that have fallen away that were the issue. I did not realize it but it was that larger portion that was being built at the expense of my personal home life. It was the continued building of that portion that was actually tearing down a marriage. So though I may have been still solid in my quit and still ‘quitting’, I had not progressed to actually living as being quit. I had not fully incorporated it into my life on a whole. So weird to say but maybe it was greatly needed, to let that additional portion of what was being built fall away, as the quality of how it was built was not properly made. And instead of thinking of the size, think more to the quality of what is there at the core of life.
So I will clean up this place a little, straighten a few things out, and make it look presentable again. But this time will take care of the quality and make sure that the core foundation will never be damaged.
Can I go back to the way things were, no.
Do I want to go back to the way things were, again NO.
Do I want to change what has happened, a resounding NO!!!
I have made a decision to learn from all that has happened, to re-adjust my focus and live life with my family. And we are living happy now. So it can be done.
Good to see you in here, Derek.
You used to be one of the cornerstones of leadership. Then some tables got overturned and some chairs got broken. And regrettably you stopped being a leader here.
KTC is the only way to quit in my opinion. There are no other options that work. The accountability and brotherhood here is still in force, and it still works. Change is difficult to be sure, but quitting is much more important - as is keeping the accountability and brotherhood in check.
1150 is big. 1151 is bigger. I hope to see you back on the intros helping others get to day 2, 3, 4... because that is where your biggest strength lies. I know, because you were one of the first people to post on my thread about 980 days ago. Without leaders, without brotherhood, without accountability, that would have been the start of yet another failed stoppage. I only hope that I have managed to pay back part of what you and some others have done for me.
Welcome back.
Your support and encouragement were a huge help to me also Sir Derek. Good to see you back.
1,151 solid days of quit, 1,151 solid days of being one of the many support columns here, 1,151 consecutive days of selfishly and selflessly quitting for yourself. Glad you are always there when I need you Derek.
Thank you
Derek you were one of the first guys to reach out to me 2 plus years ago, when I was still figuring out how to post. So if you're back, I welcome you back with both arms. But I, along with most of the quitters on this site, have no idea what the fuck happened amongst the powers that be...and frankly I have no interest in finding out. All I know is I wake up and post roll. How everyone could have made a mess of that simple task is beyond me. That is still the bedrock that makes this site go.
^^^ YES!!!
Thank you dagranger for saying this!
We are addicts. We mess things up, so we don't feel as messed up. SD has had and I am glad to see a continuing impact here. I am proud to be following the example he set.
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I wrote this on my 999th day and cannot believe was over 150 days ago, as a reminder of who I am and where I came from ...I hope that this can help those who are new to realize how much happens when we quit nicotine and what it may uncover in their self just the way I realized in me.
A thousand days. 1,000. The comma.
My name is Derek and what I have come to discover about myself over this time frame, is that I have an addictive personality. I have traits inside me that lead me easily to developing addictions.
One thousand days ago, I thought it was as simple as just a single addiction to a substance, nicotine. I had decided at that time to get it out of my life, and I believed that by doing so that I would return to a normal and better life. I realized that when I was that active addict using nicotine, I did not like who I was. I was a cheat, a loner and was unhealthy, to say the least.
- A Cheat - One who would take his hard earned money and stash it away to use not to support those who he loved, but to support a poisonous addiction. One who looked in the mirror and was dishonest about who he was, thinking he had everything under control and could not be harmed.
- A Loner - One who would get away from others just to feed him a poison. One who would drive to the store at unspeakable hours when running low. One who did not care if others saw, but was embarrassed about the addiction he was feeding.
- Unhealthy - oh this was good, going to the doctors every 3 months for his high blood pressure. Watching his gums decay away and the roots of his teeth showing while brushing. The numerous sores in his mouth that he felt.
Well I finally had that 'AH HA' moment where inside my mind I said enough to nicotine. When I quit I told myself to give my body and mind time to heal, as it was going to be a long road. I told myself that I had more than the nicotine addiction but also had the habit of something in my lower lip to overcome. I told myself that I needed to get additional help from others and to step out of my comfort zone if I wanted to get this out of my life. And for a thousand days I have done just that, learning to honor my word and learning to reach out to others.
BUT...
I have realized that this is just the first step. See with my addictive personality, I need to be very aware of what I do from day to day. I say this because I have seen in myself over these days where this pattern of addiction shifted. Yes I got rid of nicotine, but in periods of time over these past thousand days I have seen:- computer time - to a point of ignoring my wife and sons to an almost point of no return,
- alcohol - turning to it to drown out daily stress and coming close to depending on it,
- overeating - gaining weight, not eating the proper foods,
- exercising - ok this one may not be as bad, but cannot obsess about it
- and other items start to creep in to a very dangerous area of becoming an addiction.
I have realized this since my eyes were opened from getting nicotine out of my life, so when I was in downward spirals I was able to pull myself out of it.
I just need to remember to keep the positives in my life, and to always be open and honest with myself. And I know it may be a little off the wall to be using the ideals of the Knights and the Roundtable, but to me it represents those of Hard Work and Training, Honor, Skill, Courteous, Generous, and the Roundtable for equality, sharing and kinship. Just thinking if I can remember and use those attributes I can take back control of my own life and put it on the right path to being Healthy in Body, Mind and Soul. It took me a thousand days to get to this point and know there is so much more ahead.
Thank you everyone, everywhere who have helped me.
My name is Derek, I have an addictive personality, but I am not an active addict for anything, I am in control and will use what I am learning in all aspects of my life.
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September 11 -
may we never forget the past, may we never forget our past
may we use the information that we have learned and move forward to never let the past hold us back.
remember where we have been as a person, community, country, world.....and strive for a better future.
'usflag'
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I wrote this on my 999th day and cannot believe was over 150 days ago, as a reminder of who I am and where I came from ...I hope that this can help those who are new to realize how much happens when we quit nicotine and what it may uncover in their self just the way I realized in me.
A thousand days. 1,000. The comma.
My name is Derek and what I have come to discover about myself over this time frame, is that I have an addictive personality. I have traits inside me that lead me easily to developing addictions.
One thousand days ago, I thought it was as simple as just a single addiction to a substance, nicotine. I had decided at that time to get it out of my life, and I believed that by doing so that I would return to a normal and better life. I realized that when I was that active addict using nicotine, I did not like who I was. I was a cheat, a loner and was unhealthy, to say the least.
- A Cheat - One who would take his hard earned money and stash it away to use not to support those who he loved, but to support a poisonous addiction. One who looked in the mirror and was dishonest about who he was, thinking he had everything under control and could not be harmed.
- A Loner - One who would get away from others just to feed him a poison. One who would drive to the store at unspeakable hours when running low. One who did not care if others saw, but was embarrassed about the addiction he was feeding.
- Unhealthy - oh this was good, going to the doctors every 3 months for his high blood pressure. Watching his gums decay away and the roots of his teeth showing while brushing. The numerous sores in his mouth that he felt.
Well I finally had that 'AH HA' moment where inside my mind I said enough to nicotine. When I quit I told myself to give my body and mind time to heal, as it was going to be a long road. I told myself that I had more than the nicotine addiction but also had the habit of something in my lower lip to overcome. I told myself that I needed to get additional help from others and to step out of my comfort zone if I wanted to get this out of my life. And for a thousand days I have done just that, learning to honor my word and learning to reach out to others.
BUT...
I have realized that this is just the first step. See with my addictive personality, I need to be very aware of what I do from day to day. I say this because I have seen in myself over these days where this pattern of addiction shifted. Yes I got rid of nicotine, but in periods of time over these past thousand days I have seen:- computer time - to a point of ignoring my wife and sons to an almost point of no return,
- alcohol - turning to it to drown out daily stress and coming close to depending on it,
- overeating - gaining weight, not eating the proper foods,
- exercising - ok this one may not be as bad, but cannot obsess about it
- and other items start to creep in to a very dangerous area of becoming an addiction.
I have realized this since my eyes were opened from getting nicotine out of my life, so when I was in downward spirals I was able to pull myself out of it.
I just need to remember to keep the positives in my life, and to always be open and honest with myself. And I know it may be a little off the wall to be using the ideals of the Knights and the Roundtable, but to me it represents those of Hard Work and Training, Honor, Skill, Courteous, Generous, and the Roundtable for equality, sharing and kinship. Just thinking if I can remember and use those attributes I can take back control of my own life and put it on the right path to being Healthy in Body, Mind and Soul. It took me a thousand days to get to this point and know there is so much more ahead.
Thank you everyone, everywhere who have helped me.
My name is Derek, I have an addictive personality, but I am not an active addict for anything, I am in control and will use what I am learning in all aspects of my life.
Thank you for this! It is easy to feel good about quitting nicotine, and ignore the other addictions in our lives.
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It is truly special when milestones line up between quitting and life.
I always see from quitters that they plan on quitting for new year's, or their birthday, or a special date of a loved one.
Well how about the start in alignment today. I posted 1,200 today, the 12th floor. But I actually have to say that while I am so proud to make that number, there is another one that is more important to me. And that is the number 20 today. As in my 20th wedding anniversary to one who has stood beside me through all of this and more. To one who is my love, and my best friend. And one I was almost stupid enough to lose, but now is better than when we married.
So if I can just stress, yes the quit and milestones you reach are important, and should be celebrated, but do not forget to celebrate the other aspects of your life, and when you can do them free, and clean, and to its fullest, take all advantage of it.
The ale will be flowing around the table tonight. Cheers
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It is truly special when milestones line up between quitting and life.
I always see from quitters that they plan on quitting for new year's, or their birthday, or a special date of a loved one.
Well how about the start in alignment today. I posted 1,200 today, the 12th floor. But I actually have to say that while I am so proud to make that number, there is another one that is more important to me. And that is the number 20 today. As in my 20th wedding anniversary to one who has stood beside me through all of this and more. To one who is my love, and my best friend. And one I was almost stupid enough to lose, but now is better than when we married.
So if I can just stress, yes the quit and milestones you reach are important, and should be celebrated, but do not forget to celebrate the other aspects of your life, and when you can do them free, and clean, and to its fullest, take all advantage of it.
The ale will be flowing around the table tonight. Cheers
I bet that's not all that's happening tonight... but we don't need the details on that!
Congratulations on 2 huge milestones today, Derek!
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It is truly special when milestones line up between quitting and life.
I always see from quitters that they plan on quitting for new year's, or their birthday, or a special date of a loved one.
Well how about the start in alignment today. I posted 1,200 today, the 12th floor. But I actually have to say that while I am so proud to make that number, there is another one that is more important to me. And that is the number 20 today. As in my 20th wedding anniversary to one who has stood beside me through all of this and more. To one who is my love, and my best friend. And one I was almost stupid enough to lose, but now is better than when we married.
So if I can just stress, yes the quit and milestones you reach are important, and should be celebrated, but do not forget to celebrate the other aspects of your life, and when you can do them free, and clean, and to its fullest, take all advantage of it.
The ale will be flowing around the table tonight. Cheers
I bet that's not all that's happening tonight... but we don't need the details on that!
Congratulations on 2 huge milestones today, Derek!
Nice Derek! Congratulations.
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It is truly special when milestones line up between quitting and life.
I always see from quitters that they plan on quitting for new year's, or their birthday, or a special date of a loved one.
Well how about the start in alignment today. I posted 1,200 today, the 12th floor. But I actually have to say that while I am so proud to make that number, there is another one that is more important to me. And that is the number 20 today. As in my 20th wedding anniversary to one who has stood beside me through all of this and more. To one who is my love, and my best friend. And one I was almost stupid enough to lose, but now is better than when we married.
So if I can just stress, yes the quit and milestones you reach are important, and should be celebrated, but do not forget to celebrate the other aspects of your life, and when you can do them free, and clean, and to its fullest, take all advantage of it.
The ale will be flowing around the table tonight. Cheers
I bet that's not all that's happening tonight... but we don't need the details on that!
Congratulations on 2 huge milestones today, Derek!
Nice Derek! Congratulations.
Throwing down the wisdom.....as always. Thanks Derek!!!
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It is truly special when milestones line up between quitting and life.
I always see from quitters that they plan on quitting for new year's, or their birthday, or a special date of a loved one.
Well how about the start in alignment today. I posted 1,200 today, the 12th floor. But I actually have to say that while I am so proud to make that number, there is another one that is more important to me. And that is the number 20 today. As in my 20th wedding anniversary to one who has stood beside me through all of this and more. To one who is my love, and my best friend. And one I was almost stupid enough to lose, but now is better than when we married.
So if I can just stress, yes the quit and milestones you reach are important, and should be celebrated, but do not forget to celebrate the other aspects of your life, and when you can do them free, and clean, and to its fullest, take all advantage of it.
The ale will be flowing around the table tonight. Cheers
I bet that's not all that's happening tonight... but we don't need the details on that!
Congratulations on 2 huge milestones today, Derek!
Nice Derek! Congratulations.
Throwing down the wisdom.....as always. Thanks Derek!!!
That is cool Derek congrats on both milestones. Truly a big deal to have been married 20 years and great that you can be quit again today to enjoy it with her... also not to shabby that you've done that 1,200 in a row!! Polish the armor and have a great time tonight brother!
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Well I have been called crazy, but think this is a great case of having a foundation present, and then making a decision and following through.
My history of an athlete is one of being non-aerobic. I was baseball and football. I could not run, I did not like to run (or swim). Well 2 years ago I challenged myself to help out the Post Prom committee for the High School to run my first 5k. I 'practiced' for about 3 weeks, going out 10 times in the neighborhood. I had been doing my DDP Yoga. And at that time, I ran it in 32:58 and there were 2 parts where I did have to walk for a few to catch my breath.
Well this past weekend, I made a last minute decision. And that was to support the running booster club (each of my sons are on the cross country team), in their annual 5k. This time I had not run since that one two years ago. I had however been still doing the DDP Yoga, and had was 10 pounds lighter. So there I was, a different course, pushing ahead. I finished in 31:40 and did not walk a step.
I can only say goes to show that once I made that decision, and I followed through on it, mainly because I had that good foundation set in place with the yoga I do (which was the cardio I needed).
So when you quit, make that decision, and get your foundation laid within your group. And you will live a clean life away from the poison of nicotine.
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Well I have been called crazy, but think this is a great case of having a foundation present, and then making a decision and following through.
My history of an athlete is one of being non-aerobic. I was baseball and football. I could not run, I did not like to run (or swim). Well 2 years ago I challenged myself to help out the Post Prom committee for the High School to run my first 5k. I 'practiced' for about 3 weeks, going out 10 times in the neighborhood. I had been doing my DDP Yoga. And at that time, I ran it in 32:58 and there were 2 parts where I did have to walk for a few to catch my breath.
Well this past weekend, I made a last minute decision. And that was to support the running booster club (each of my sons are on the cross country team), in their annual 5k. This time I had not run since that one two years ago. I had however been still doing the DDP Yoga, and had was 10 pounds lighter. So there I was, a different course, pushing ahead. I finished in 31:40 and did not walk a step.
I can only say goes to show that once I made that decision, and I followed through on it, mainly because I had that good foundation set in place with the yoga I do (which was the cardio I needed).
So when you quit, make that decision, and get your foundation laid within your group. And you will live a clean life away from the poison of nicotine.
Well said Derek, and as you know anytime you need a brother to run with you I am merely a text or call away. I hated running before my quit and would only run from base to base or if something bigger than me was chasing me. Now however, I am training for my first ever Ironman and though it is torturous training I love this shit and have never felt better in my life.
I am damn proud of you Derek, you and your crazy ass.
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Dark times and glad to have a family...
I hope the following will help someone else here whether it be a new quitter or someone who has a few days under their belt.
This past week I definitely had not been feeling like myself. Down in the dumps would be gracious to say as I felt lower than low. Worthless. Feeling like my existence did not matter. Work had pushed me to the edge, and at home was not much better. I just wanted to be left alone (wrong thought). I had the shortness of breath, the shaking, the not sleeping....I could go on. Had my regular doctor's appointment. He said physically I was great, but could tell I was not mentally. After talking, I will be getting a script for Xanax to help take the edge off (his words). But even with this knowledge I felt awful, I was isolating myself. And thought I was doing the unthinkable...I reached out to the Oct12 group and our messaging group. Now mind you this had NOTHING to do with tobacco. But within seconds I was receiving their support, their words of wisdom, their own experience (or son or wife). It made me think and really think. And realize how lucky I am. To have built up such a strong bond within a group of people (most of which I have still yet to meet face to face, but feel like we all know one another for many years). So Ben, Bob, Brett, Cindy, Drew, Eric, Mitchell, Scott: I am so lucky to have you and your families and I am proud to call you a part of my family.
And I have so far to go, as do think this is the learning, the continued re-programming of my mind (even after 3 1/2 years quit). But this is still better than being bound to a weed and poisoning myself, as I know now I will be there to see my sons graduate, get married and more.
So for those new, I cannot emphasize enough to open up to others. Make those bonds. As you will never know when or for what you may need (as I never expected this to happen for me).
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Dark times and glad to have a family...
I hope the following will help someone else here whether it be a new quitter or someone who has a few days under their belt.
This past week I definitely had not been feeling like myself. Down in the dumps would be gracious to say as I felt lower than low. Worthless. Feeling like my existence did not matter. Work had pushed me to the edge, and at home was not much better. I just wanted to be left alone (wrong thought). I had the shortness of breath, the shaking, the not sleeping....I could go on. Had my regular doctor's appointment. He said physically I was great, but could tell I was not mentally. After talking, I will be getting a script for Xanax to help take the edge off (his words). But even with this knowledge I felt awful, I was isolating myself. And thought I was doing the unthinkable...I reached out to the Oct12 group and our messaging group. Now mind you this had NOTHING to do with tobacco. But within seconds I was receiving their support, their words of wisdom, their own experience (or son or wife). It made me think and really think. And realize how lucky I am. To have built up such a strong bond within a group of people (most of which I have still yet to meet face to face, but feel like we all know one another for many years). So Ben, Bob, Brett, Cindy, Drew, Eric, Mitchell, Scott: I am so lucky to have you and your families and I am proud to call you a part of my family.
And I have so far to go, as do think this is the learning, the continued re-programming of my mind (even after 3 1/2 years quit). But this is still better than being bound to a weed and poisoning myself, as I know now I will be there to see my sons graduate, get married and more.
So for those new, I cannot emphasize enough to open up to others. Make those bonds. As you will never know when or for what you may need (as I never expected this to happen for me).
always here for you brother
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Dark times and glad to have a family...
I hope the following will help someone else here whether it be a new quitter or someone who has a few days under their belt.
This past week I definitely had not been feeling like myself. Down in the dumps would be gracious to say as I felt lower than low. Worthless. Feeling like my existence did not matter. Work had pushed me to the edge, and at home was not much better. I just wanted to be left alone (wrong thought). I had the shortness of breath, the shaking, the not sleeping....I could go on. Had my regular doctor's appointment. He said physically I was great, but could tell I was not mentally. After talking, I will be getting a script for Xanax to help take the edge off (his words). But even with this knowledge I felt awful, I was isolating myself. And thought I was doing the unthinkable...I reached out to the Oct12 group and our messaging group. Now mind you this had NOTHING to do with tobacco. But within seconds I was receiving their support, their words of wisdom, their own experience (or son or wife). It made me think and really think. And realize how lucky I am. To have built up such a strong bond within a group of people (most of which I have still yet to meet face to face, but feel like we all know one another for many years). So Ben, Bob, Brett, Cindy, Drew, Eric, Mitchell, Scott: I am so lucky to have you and your families and I am proud to call you a part of my family.
And I have so far to go, as do think this is the learning, the continued re-programming of my mind (even after 3 1/2 years quit). But this is still better than being bound to a weed and poisoning myself, as I know now I will be there to see my sons graduate, get married and more.
So for those new, I cannot emphasize enough to open up to others. Make those bonds. As you will never know when or for what you may need (as I never expected this to happen for me).
always here for you brother
I can totally relate in a hard way right now SD.
I am so glad you didn't isolate completely.
I have done that and just recently. I thank you for reaching out to me recently too.
It's a tough road, and we can't go it alone, although it seems to be the first thing we do is isolate.
Thanks for these words , I needed them today as well.
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Derek, congratulations on hitting 1,300 days of consecutive quit. You sir are one hell of a quitter and an even better man. I am glad to have you here, and thrilled to have you be a part of my quit. Thank you to all that you have done here and I look forward to seeing many more days from you here.
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Derek, congratulations on hitting 1,300 days of consecutive quit. You sir are one hell of a quitter and an even better man. I am glad to have you here, and thrilled to have you be a part of my quit. Thank you to all that you have done here and I look forward to seeing many more days from you here.
I second this. Congratulations and thanks again for all the support you give all of us!
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Derek, congratulations on hitting 1,300 days of consecutive quit. You sir are one hell of a quitter and an even better man. I am glad to have you here, and thrilled to have you be a part of my quit. Thank you to all that you have done here and I look forward to seeing many more days from you here.
I second this. Congratulations and thanks again for all the support you give all of us!
SD, congrats on your 1300 days!!
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Derek, congratulations on hitting 1,300 days of consecutive quit. You sir are one hell of a quitter and an even better man. I am glad to have you here, and thrilled to have you be a part of my quit. Thank you to all that you have done here and I look forward to seeing many more days from you here.
I second this. Congratulations and thanks again for all the support you give all of us!
SD, congrats on your 1300 days!!
Thank you so much Pinched, RDad and ChickDip.
It's been another tough floor to get through. Not so much in the realm of cravings or anything there, but with continuing to find out who I am, and how I handle stress and will most likely say depressed times.
But I have come to learn one important thing, and that is the bonds that we form within our group here, can extend far beyond getting nicotine our of our lives. Once made these bonds can become like family and more, as we already know we can lean on one another from our experience in the first 100 days, but this leaning I have seen, can be used for other aspects of our life.
So I cannot say enough for my Oct12 family, and those who hope they know who they are, You are the best.
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Derek, congratulations on hitting 1,300 days of consecutive quit. You sir are one hell of a quitter and an even better man. I am glad to have you here, and thrilled to have you be a part of my quit. Thank you to all that you have done here and I look forward to seeing many more days from you here.
I second this. Congratulations and thanks again for all the support you give all of us!
SD, congrats on your 1300 days!!
Thank you so much Pinched, RDad and ChickDip.
It's been another tough floor to get through. Not so much in the realm of cravings or anything there, but with continuing to find out who I am, and how I handle stress and will most likely say depressed times.
But I have come to learn one important thing, and that is the bonds that we form within our group here, can extend far beyond getting nicotine our of our lives. Once made these bonds can become like family and more, as we already know we can lean on one another from our experience in the first 100 days, but this leaning I have seen, can be used for other aspects of our life.
So I cannot say enough for my Oct12 family, and those who hope they know who they are, You are the best.
Derek, you are a good man, proud to quit with you!
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"Yet today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
I had to borrow this quote from one of the all time great ball players, as today I feel this way because of the bonds that formed within my Oct12 group.
I have met 2 of those who provided me a great gift, beyond what I could ever have expected. The others I swear I will shake their hand, hug them, take them and their family out to dinner when I get the chance. You can count on that. And if that means trips to Missouri, Michigan, Georgia, Ohio....so be it.
you guys (and gal) are amazing.
New quitters, never underestimate the bonds that you can form in your group when you quit. What can be, is limitless.
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"Yet today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
I had to borrow this quote from one of the all time great ball players, as today I feel this way because of the bonds that formed within my Oct12 group.
I have met 2 of those who provided me a great gift, beyond what I could ever have expected. The others I swear I will shake their hand, hug them, take them and their family out to dinner when I get the chance. You can count on that. And if that means trips to Missouri, Michigan, Georgia, Ohio....so be it.
you guys (and gal) are amazing.
New quitters, never underestimate the bonds that you can form in your group when you quit. What can be, is limitless.
You are a pretty amazing dude Derek, glad to have you on this journey with me
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Today marks the start of my 5th trip around the sun being nicotine free. (a full 4 years completed) Many things have changed in these trips, as the castle that was started looks nothing today like it had back then.
The chips and marks on the walls from all of the beating and fending off of craves, has been replaced by a well-cared for surface that is smooth and decorative, without a blemish on them now.
The set of armor that was likewise dented, scarred and worn is now a shining testament to good winning out over evil, and set aside for me to see and remember what it was like.
Another difference is the once well-trod floor and crowded table, is now almost bare, only seeing the company of a very select few that have followed the similar path for these years.
Lessons are learned every day. And even from within this castle I continue to learn each and every day. I keep learning to make myself a better person and see how making that initial decision to get nicotine out of my life has led to much more. For me it has been: weight loss, better physical shape, lower BP and cholesterol, lessen sleep apnea, regaining the understanding of what my word means, a nice money savings, and a great life enjoying with my wife and sons.
I knew it would be a journey, but that was the quest I set out on those 4 years ago when I initially said that I was "Proud to say that I will be a quitter".
And now as a person I see that I still have far to go, but I am getting there one day at a time.
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Today marks the start of my 5th trip around the sun being nicotine free. (a full 4 years completed) Many things have changed in these trips, as the castle that was started looks nothing today like it had back then.
The chips and marks on the walls from all of the beating and fending off of craves, has been replaced by a well-cared for surface that is smooth and decorative, without a blemish on them now.
The set of armor that was likewise dented, scarred and worn is now a shining testament to good winning out over evil, and set aside for me to see and remember what it was like.
Another difference is the once well-trod floor and crowded table, is now almost bare, only seeing the company of a very select few that have followed the similar path for these years.
Lessons are learned every day. And even from within this castle I continue to learn each and every day. I keep learning to make myself a better person and see how making that initial decision to get nicotine out of my life has led to much more. For me it has been: weight loss, better physical shape, lower BP and cholesterol, lessen sleep apnea, regaining the understanding of what my word means, a nice money savings, and a great life enjoying with my wife and sons.
I knew it would be a journey, but that was the quest I set out on those 4 years ago when I initially said that I was "Proud to say that I will be a quitter".
And now as a person I see that I still have far to go, but I am getting there one day at a time.
Bad ass.
Congratulations Derek!
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Today marks the start of my 5th trip around the sun being nicotine free. (a full 4 years completed) Many things have changed in these trips, as the castle that was started looks nothing today like it had back then.
The chips and marks on the walls from all of the beating and fending off of craves, has been replaced by a well-cared for surface that is smooth and decorative, without a blemish on them now.
The set of armor that was likewise dented, scarred and worn is now a shining testament to good winning out over evil, and set aside for me to see and remember what it was like.
Another difference is the once well-trod floor and crowded table, is now almost bare, only seeing the company of a very select few that have followed the similar path for these years.
Lessons are learned every day. And even from within this castle I continue to learn each and every day. I keep learning to make myself a better person and see how making that initial decision to get nicotine out of my life has led to much more. For me it has been: weight loss, better physical shape, lower BP and cholesterol, lessen sleep apnea, regaining the understanding of what my word means, a nice money savings, and a great life enjoying with my wife and sons.
I knew it would be a journey, but that was the quest I set out on those 4 years ago when I initially said that I was "Proud to say that I will be a quitter".
And now as a person I see that I still have far to go, but I am getting there one day at a time.
Bad ass.
Congratulations Derek!
Awesome my friend! This ODAAT shit works! Quit on!
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Today marks the start of my 5th trip around the sun being nicotine free. (a full 4 years completed) Many things have changed in these trips, as the castle that was started looks nothing today like it had back then.
The chips and marks on the walls from all of the beating and fending off of craves, has been replaced by a well-cared for surface that is smooth and decorative, without a blemish on them now.
The set of armor that was likewise dented, scarred and worn is now a shining testament to good winning out over evil, and set aside for me to see and remember what it was like.
Another difference is the once well-trod floor and crowded table, is now almost bare, only seeing the company of a very select few that have followed the similar path for these years.
Lessons are learned every day. And even from within this castle I continue to learn each and every day. I keep learning to make myself a better person and see how making that initial decision to get nicotine out of my life has led to much more. For me it has been: weight loss, better physical shape, lower BP and cholesterol, lessen sleep apnea, regaining the understanding of what my word means, a nice money savings, and a great life enjoying with my wife and sons.
I knew it would be a journey, but that was the quest I set out on those 4 years ago when I initially said that I was "Proud to say that I will be a quitter".
And now as a person I see that I still have far to go, but I am getting there one day at a time.
Bad ass.
Congratulations Derek!
Awesome my friend! This ODAAT shit works! Quit on!
Derek thank you. I will continue to keep us the same distance apart.
Yes the table is empty with those that have found their own kingdom of freedom, but it is up to us to keep inviting new guests to the table.
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Today marks the start of my 5th trip around the sun being nicotine free. (a full 4 years completed) Many things have changed in these trips, as the castle that was started looks nothing today like it had back then.
The chips and marks on the walls from all of the beating and fending off of craves, has been replaced by a well-cared for surface that is smooth and decorative, without a blemish on them now.
The set of armor that was likewise dented, scarred and worn is now a shining testament to good winning out over evil, and set aside for me to see and remember what it was like.
Another difference is the once well-trod floor and crowded table, is now almost bare, only seeing the company of a very select few that have followed the similar path for these years.
Lessons are learned every day. And even from within this castle I continue to learn each and every day. I keep learning to make myself a better person and see how making that initial decision to get nicotine out of my life has led to much more. For me it has been: weight loss, better physical shape, lower BP and cholesterol, lessen sleep apnea, regaining the understanding of what my word means, a nice money savings, and a great life enjoying with my wife and sons.
I knew it would be a journey, but that was the quest I set out on those 4 years ago when I initially said that I was "Proud to say that I will be a quitter".
And now as a person I see that I still have far to go, but I am getting there one day at a time.
Bad ass.
Congratulations Derek!
Awesome my friend! This ODAAT shit works! Quit on!
Derek thank you. I will continue to keep us the same distance apart.
Yes the table is empty with those that have found their own kingdom of freedom, but it is up to us to keep inviting new guests to the table.
Congrats on 5 years SD!!
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Today marks the start of my 5th trip around the sun being nicotine free. (a full 4 years completed) Many things have changed in these trips, as the castle that was started looks nothing today like it had back then.
The chips and marks on the walls from all of the beating and fending off of craves, has been replaced by a well-cared for surface that is smooth and decorative, without a blemish on them now.
The set of armor that was likewise dented, scarred and worn is now a shining testament to good winning out over evil, and set aside for me to see and remember what it was like.
Another difference is the once well-trod floor and crowded table, is now almost bare, only seeing the company of a very select few that have followed the similar path for these years.
Lessons are learned every day. And even from within this castle I continue to learn each and every day. I keep learning to make myself a better person and see how making that initial decision to get nicotine out of my life has led to much more. For me it has been: weight loss, better physical shape, lower BP and cholesterol, lessen sleep apnea, regaining the understanding of what my word means, a nice money savings, and a great life enjoying with my wife and sons.
I knew it would be a journey, but that was the quest I set out on those 4 years ago when I initially said that I was "Proud to say that I will be a quitter".
And now as a person I see that I still have far to go, but I am getting there one day at a time.
Bad ass.
Congratulations Derek!
Awesome my friend! This ODAAT shit works! Quit on!
Derek thank you. I will continue to keep us the same distance apart.
Yes the table is empty with those that have found their own kingdom of freedom, but it is up to us to keep inviting new guests to the table.
Congrats on 5 years SD!!
Congrats on 5 years Sir D! Glad to trail along and learn from you.
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Today marks the start of my 5th trip around the sun being nicotine free. (a full 4 years completed) Many things have changed in these trips, as the castle that was started looks nothing today like it had back then.
The chips and marks on the walls from all of the beating and fending off of craves, has been replaced by a well-cared for surface that is smooth and decorative, without a blemish on them now.
The set of armor that was likewise dented, scarred and worn is now a shining testament to good winning out over evil, and set aside for me to see and remember what it was like.
Another difference is the once well-trod floor and crowded table, is now almost bare, only seeing the company of a very select few that have followed the similar path for these years.
Lessons are learned every day. And even from within this castle I continue to learn each and every day. I keep learning to make myself a better person and see how making that initial decision to get nicotine out of my life has led to much more. For me it has been: weight loss, better physical shape, lower BP and cholesterol, lessen sleep apnea, regaining the understanding of what my word means, a nice money savings, and a great life enjoying with my wife and sons.
I knew it would be a journey, but that was the quest I set out on those 4 years ago when I initially said that I was "Proud to say that I will be a quitter".
And now as a person I see that I still have far to go, but I am getting there one day at a time.
Bad ass.
Congratulations Derek!
Awesome my friend! This ODAAT shit works! Quit on!
Derek thank you. I will continue to keep us the same distance apart.
Yes the table is empty with those that have found their own kingdom of freedom, but it is up to us to keep inviting new guests to the table.
Congrats on 5 years SD!!
Congrats on 5 years Sir D! Glad to trail along and learn from you.
4 years my friend and a lifetime of experiences between us all. Much like a small sample size of the world, our group has been stripped of many. The core remains intact. The core values, standards, morals, ethics are all still present in each of us from October 12. We have each ventured to new lands to set up shop in our own kingdoms. Each year, each 100 days, we reunite and reminisce of times gone by and cherish in moments to come. I am proud to know you and know the days will come that we gather again as one, this time in person, to cherish the blessings of being QLAFM.
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Today marks the start of my 5th trip around the sun being nicotine free. (a full 4 years completed) Many things have changed in these trips, as the castle that was started looks nothing today like it had back then.
The chips and marks on the walls from all of the beating and fending off of craves, has been replaced by a well-cared for surface that is smooth and decorative, without a blemish on them now.
The set of armor that was likewise dented, scarred and worn is now a shining testament to good winning out over evil, and set aside for me to see and remember what it was like.
Another difference is the once well-trod floor and crowded table, is now almost bare, only seeing the company of a very select few that have followed the similar path for these years.
Lessons are learned every day. And even from within this castle I continue to learn each and every day. I keep learning to make myself a better person and see how making that initial decision to get nicotine out of my life has led to much more. For me it has been: weight loss, better physical shape, lower BP and cholesterol, lessen sleep apnea, regaining the understanding of what my word means, a nice money savings, and a great life enjoying with my wife and sons.
I knew it would be a journey, but that was the quest I set out on those 4 years ago when I initially said that I was "Proud to say that I will be a quitter".
And now as a person I see that I still have far to go, but I am getting there one day at a time.
Bad ass.
Congratulations Derek!
Awesome my friend! This ODAAT shit works! Quit on!
Derek thank you. I will continue to keep us the same distance apart.
Yes the table is empty with those that have found their own kingdom of freedom, but it is up to us to keep inviting new guests to the table.
Congrats on 5 years SD!!
Congrats on 5 years Sir D! Glad to trail along and learn from you.
4 years my friend and a lifetime of experiences between us all. Much like a small sample size of the world, our group has been stripped of many. The core remains intact. The core values, standards, morals, ethics are all still present in each of us from October 12. We have each ventured to new lands to set up shop in our own kingdoms. Each year, each 100 days, we reunite and reminisce of times gone by and cherish in moments to come. I am proud to know you and know the days will come that we gather again as one, this time in person, to cherish the blessings of being QLAFM.
Gratz to you Sir Derek, thank you for having my back!
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Scenes from the stone window....
sorry just a little introspection since passing the 1,500 mark over 2 weeks ago. It always seems to come around from time to time discussions about posting roll every day and what I will call the impact and thoughts of those who are more seasoned in their quit, and if the reason to continue. Now for new guys, yes the posting is vital to success. It builds the accountability, it lays the foundation of taking back something in your life....your word. But this is for a lot of the others (as evidenced by the fact when you look at the older quit groups and see that there are not too many posting anymore:
And something popped into my head where I think everyone can relate to:
How many of us have grown up watching our favorite movies or television shows. Heck there are some movies I have seen over 100 times, and shows like Cheers or MASH again I know when live and then in syndication I have seen every single episode they made. So we go on living day after day until we sit down one day and turn on our favorite. As we are watching, all of a sudden we see something and/or make a comment "I do not remember that".....and laugh or cry again like we had not done before....But as I led in, we know we have all seen/watched it before, so why the sudden feeling like we had never seen it before...
Well when this happens its because we have drifted away. We failed to remember the past of what we watched, what we did. And without that memory and/or connection to that part of our past, we never know what might happen again.
This I believe defines the reason for always keeping in touch, where ever that might be, and making being quit real in your life, where you need to make the connections with those others who stand beside you.
Now does it mean to post roll everyday, that I will leave up to others to say, but what I will say is that every day we need to think about where we came from, that we need to think about those who have stood side by side with through our fight every day, and that we at least promise to our self that we will never go back to the way we were. But that we will keep moving forward and never lose the connections or lessons we have learned along the way so that history will not repeat itself.
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Scenes from the stone window....
sorry just a little introspection since passing the 1,500 mark over 2 weeks ago. It always seems to come around from time to time discussions about posting roll every day and what I will call the impact and thoughts of those who are more seasoned in their quit, and if the reason to continue. Now for new guys, yes the posting is vital to success. It builds the accountability, it lays the foundation of taking back something in your life....your word. But this is for a lot of the others (as evidenced by the fact when you look at the older quit groups and see that there are not too many posting anymore:
And something popped into my head where I think everyone can relate to:
How many of us have grown up watching our favorite movies or television shows. Heck there are some movies I have seen over 100 times, and shows like Cheers or MASH again I know when live and then in syndication I have seen every single episode they made. So we go on living day after day until we sit down one day and turn on our favorite. As we are watching, all of a sudden we see something and/or make a comment "I do not remember that".....and laugh or cry again like we had not done before....But as I led in, we know we have all seen/watched it before, so why the sudden feeling like we had never seen it before...
Well when this happens its because we have drifted away. We failed to remember the past of what we watched, what we did. And without that memory and/or connection to that part of our past, we never know what might happen again.
This I believe defines the reason for always keeping in touch, where ever that might be, and making being quit real in your life, where you need to make the connections with those others who stand beside you.
Now does it mean to post roll everyday, that I will leave up to others to say, but what I will say is that every day we need to think about where we came from, that we need to think about those who have stood side by side with through our fight every day, and that we at least promise to our self that we will never go back to the way we were. But that we will keep moving forward and never lose the connections or lessons we have learned along the way so that history will not repeat itself.
Badass Sir! Enjoyed the read! It's stuff like that that comes straight at you. Love it. Just telling my son how amazing I feel after weed eating for an hour and a half. I'm 52 no way in hell I could have done that some 600 day's ago! For that reason I will choose to post ODAAT and to also get to read great stuff like I just read! Thanks again and quit on!
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Scenes from the stone window....
sorry just a little introspection since passing the 1,500 mark over 2 weeks ago. It always seems to come around from time to time discussions about posting roll every day and what I will call the impact and thoughts of those who are more seasoned in their quit, and if the reason to continue. Now for new guys, yes the posting is vital to success. It builds the accountability, it lays the foundation of taking back something in your life....your word. But this is for a lot of the others (as evidenced by the fact when you look at the older quit groups and see that there are not too many posting anymore:
And something popped into my head where I think everyone can relate to:
How many of us have grown up watching our favorite movies or television shows. Heck there are some movies I have seen over 100 times, and shows like Cheers or MASH again I know when live and then in syndication I have seen every single episode they made. So we go on living day after day until we sit down one day and turn on our favorite. As we are watching, all of a sudden we see something and/or make a comment "I do not remember that".....and laugh or cry again like we had not done before....But as I led in, we know we have all seen/watched it before, so why the sudden feeling like we had never seen it before...
Well when this happens its because we have drifted away. We failed to remember the past of what we watched, what we did. And without that memory and/or connection to that part of our past, we never know what might happen again.
This I believe defines the reason for always keeping in touch, where ever that might be, and making being quit real in your life, where you need to make the connections with those others who stand beside you.
Now does it mean to post roll everyday, that I will leave up to others to say, but what I will say is that every day we need to think about where we came from, that we need to think about those who have stood side by side with through our fight every day, and that we at least promise to our self that we will never go back to the way we were. But that we will keep moving forward and never lose the connections or lessons we have learned along the way so that history will not repeat itself.
Badass Sir! Enjoyed the read! It's stuff like that that comes straight at you. Love it. Just telling my son how amazing I feel after weed eating for an hour and a half. I'm 52 no way in hell I could have done that some 600 day's ago! For that reason I will choose to post ODAAT and to also get to read great stuff like I just read! Thanks again and quit on!
Here's a nice little add on to the remembering what we used to watch:
how many times have we sat and watched Blazing Saddles, or Willie Wonka......
Jim: "You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." or "Bart:
Are we awake? Jim: We're not sure. Are we black? Bart:Yes, we are. Jim: Then we're awake, but very puzzled." to : "So much time and so little to do. Wait a minute. Strike that. Reverse it." and "Hold your breath, make a wish, count to three.", and "Time is a precious thing, never waste it" and Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, it's pronounced "Fronkensteen.", and the other movies growing up, just too many to remember.
But the best:
Willy Wonka: But Charlie, don't forget what happened to the man who suddenly got everything he always wanted.
Charlie Bucket: What happened?
Willy Wonka: He lived happily ever after.
RIP Gene Wilder, you are the only Willie Wonka to me, and a true genius
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Scenes from the stone window....
sorry just a little introspection since passing the 1,500 mark over 2 weeks ago. It always seems to come around from time to time discussions about posting roll every day and what I will call the impact and thoughts of those who are more seasoned in their quit, and if the reason to continue. Now for new guys, yes the posting is vital to success. It builds the accountability, it lays the foundation of taking back something in your life....your word. But this is for a lot of the others (as evidenced by the fact when you look at the older quit groups and see that there are not too many posting anymore:
And something popped into my head where I think everyone can relate to:
How many of us have grown up watching our favorite movies or television shows. Heck there are some movies I have seen over 100 times, and shows like Cheers or MASH again I know when live and then in syndication I have seen every single episode they made. So we go on living day after day until we sit down one day and turn on our favorite. As we are watching, all of a sudden we see something and/or make a comment "I do not remember that".....and laugh or cry again like we had not done before....But as I led in, we know we have all seen/watched it before, so why the sudden feeling like we had never seen it before...
Well when this happens its because we have drifted away. We failed to remember the past of what we watched, what we did. And without that memory and/or connection to that part of our past, we never know what might happen again.
This I believe defines the reason for always keeping in touch, where ever that might be, and making being quit real in your life, where you need to make the connections with those others who stand beside you.
Now does it mean to post roll everyday, that I will leave up to others to say, but what I will say is that every day we need to think about where we came from, that we need to think about those who have stood side by side with through our fight every day, and that we at least promise to our self that we will never go back to the way we were. But that we will keep moving forward and never lose the connections or lessons we have learned along the way so that history will not repeat itself.
Badass Sir! Enjoyed the read! It's stuff like that that comes straight at you. Love it. Just telling my son how amazing I feel after weed eating for an hour and a half. I'm 52 no way in hell I could have done that some 600 day's ago! For that reason I will choose to post ODAAT and to also get to read great stuff like I just read! Thanks again and quit on!
Here's a nice little add on to the remembering what we used to watch:
how many times have we sat and watched Blazing Saddles, or Willie Wonka......
Jim: "You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." or "Bart:
Are we awake? Jim: We're not sure. Are we black? Bart:Yes, we are. Jim: Then we're awake, but very puzzled." to : "So much time and so little to do. Wait a minute. Strike that. Reverse it." and "Hold your breath, make a wish, count to three.", and "Time is a precious thing, never waste it" and Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, it's pronounced "Fronkensteen.", and the other movies growing up, just too many to remember.
But the best:
Willy Wonka: But Charlie, don't forget what happened to the man who suddenly got everything he always wanted.
Charlie Bucket: What happened?
Willy Wonka: He lived happily ever after.
RIP Gene Wilder, you are the only Willie Wonka to me, and a true genius
Nice Derek, he will be missed!
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New quitters...... here is a bonus on why you should quit for yourself and no one else, as it so much comes along with it when you make the decision:
October 4th, 1998
I remember this day so vividly. A Sunday morning not forgotten. Was sleeping great and get stirred at about 5:30 in the morning by my wife. See she was pregnant with our first son, due in about a week. She says to be don't be in a panic by her water just broke and she had called her doctor. Well no better statement to beat the affects of coffee than that to wake one up. So that was the start of the day. She was told to take it easy unless contractions started, which they did not, and it might have been around 9 or 10 that we finally went to the hospital. 8+ hours later Alex arrived into our lives.
October 4th 2016
That little one whose foot was no longer than my fore finger, now stands 6'1" and turns 18 today. His boy scout eagle rank paperwork is on its way to the council office. He has turned into one hell of a young man who has experienced so much more than I ever did as a youth. He has been to Europe with the music department (Austria,..). He has worked at the summer camp for now 2 years and as attended a national Jamboree. His social life in school would have made me look like a wall flower (which I was). I know the fight now will be about a close by (5-6 hour) college, but will let that come. As for today we will celebrate (ok tonight as he is in his senior year classes now).
Not sure I have ever been more proud of him today. And I have to say, getting the CPAP and quitting nicotine are the only reasons I am here alive to feel that way, because without doing either one of those I would with high probability be dead today.
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New quitters...... here is a bonus on why you should quit for yourself and no one else, as it so much comes along with it when you make the decision:
October 4th, 1998
I remember this day so vividly. A Sunday morning not forgotten. Was sleeping great and get stirred at about 5:30 in the morning by my wife. See she was pregnant with our first son, due in about a week. She says to be don't be in a panic by her water just broke and she had called her doctor. Well no better statement to beat the affects of coffee than that to wake one up. So that was the start of the day. She was told to take it easy unless contractions started, which they did not, and it might have been around 9 or 10 that we finally went to the hospital. 8+ hours later Alex arrived into our lives.
October 4th 2016
That little one whose foot was no longer than my fore finger, now stands 6'1" and turns 18 today. His boy scout eagle rank paperwork is on its way to the council office. He has turned into one hell of a young man who has experienced so much more than I ever did as a youth. He has been to Europe with the music department (Austria,..). He has worked at the summer camp for now 2 years and as attended a national Jamboree. His social life in school would have made me look like a wall flower (which I was). I know the fight now will be about a close by (5-6 hour) college, but will let that come. As for today we will celebrate (ok tonight as he is in his senior year classes now).
Not sure I have ever been more proud of him today. And I have to say, getting the CPAP and quitting nicotine are the only reasons I am here alive to feel that way, because without doing either one of those I would with high probability be dead today.
My friend you have every right to be proud! And yes alot of that is owed to mom and dad! Cherish every damn minute and give the good man a thank you for all your blessings. Quit on badass! Thanks i needed that
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Well nice to see a couple of newer guys post up in Oct 2012 (actually better posting % than I have been lately, after 4 years).
But I hope they realized a lessons that I am really true to stand behind as you rack up the +1 day after day, and that is to never forget where you came from, never forget what it took to get you to this point, and never forget to stop learning about yourself each day.
using those 3 guides as you go along I feel will be really key to help you remain quit and live life to its fullest.
If you forget where you came from (a user), then you might go right back to using
If you forget the hell you went through to get here, if you forget any people that have helped you along the way, this might also lead you back...
and if you stop learning, this also may lead you back.
cause when you really stop and think, You are your past, you are becoming your future with a new brotherhood and a new you with all you have learned.
Be strong and be smart....
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Well nice to see a couple of newer guys post up in Oct 2012 (actually better posting % than I have been lately, after 4 years).
But I hope they realized a lessons that I am really true to stand behind as you rack up the +1 day after day, and that is to never forget where you came from, never forget what it took to get you to this point, and never forget to stop learning about yourself each day.
using those 3 guides as you go along I feel will be really key to help you remain quit and live life to its fullest.
If you forget where you came from (a user), then you might go right back to using
If you forget the hell you went through to get here, if you forget any people that have helped you along the way, this might also lead you back...
and if you stop learning, this also may lead you back.
cause when you really stop and think, You are your past, you are becoming your future with a new brotherhood and a new you with all you have learned.
Be strong and be smart....
Yes sir. NEver forget the hell. If you think that thought may be getting fuzzy just head over to the newest HOF month and read the stuff the new quitters are going through. Works for me!
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At this joyous time of year, here is to everyone giving them self the present of being clean and quit. It is the best gift you can give to yourself.
So do not wait for a new year's resolution, just give that gift now.
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At this joyous time of year, here is to everyone giving them self the present of being clean and quit. It is the best gift you can give to yourself.
So do not wait for a new year's resolution, just give that gift now.
and if you are already quit, then try as you may, give that gift of helping others and learning each and every day to be that better person.
I keep learning something new each day. Do you?
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At this joyous time of year, here is to everyone giving them self the present of being clean and quit. It is the best gift you can give to yourself.
So do not wait for a new year's resolution, just give that gift now.
and if you are already quit, then try as you may, give that gift of helping others and learning each and every day to be that better person.
I keep learning something new each day. Do you?
It was great to meet you in person last summer Derek. :)
It's amazing how much helping someone else will help our own quit. Building our quit network and being "on call" for other quitters is key. I've truly learned that I can't quit by myself.
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For something new and different, as I move into 4.5+ years of being clean. Felt time to write a little something, something that have done for quite awhile but had not penned it down for cases that others may use and/or alter to help them selves.
Would call it my "Knight's Prayer"
Dear Lord,
As the sun rises on yet another glorious day Please watch over us
Provide us with the strength to make it through the day
Provide us with the knowledge to know and learn right from wrong
Provide us with the wisdom to know when to listen and when to talk
Provide us with the awareness to accept and when to give help
Provide us with the kindness to allow us to bond with others
and as always
Hear our Promise that we make on this day to remain Clean of Nicotine.
In your name, Amen
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Well another boy scout klondike derby complete and damn I am more than thoroughly exhausted to the point of being in pain and very emotional. BUT I would not have traded the 9 hours from yesterday where I had set up and run one of the stations, with a high energy, constantly repeating the scenario to all the patrols, answering the questions, walking around and watching. And all of this in the wet mud and 32 degree temperature (at least I was the fire building station).
Anyway as I look at this weekend, as have in the past, I can definitely relate this to watching the new quitter groups as they join and form here.
The first year, young boy scouts -(12-13 in age) very little knowledge in what and how they need to do things. lots of questions and re-explaining, lots of arguing among them selves. tempers flaring at times. had 2 groups give up before the 30 minute time limit.
The middle aged scouts (14-15 age) - can tell they have the better knowledge. less questions and the ones they had were very direct. not much arguing, but with these groups it was more in the execution of the steps that were letting them down
The older scouts (16-17) - now these are the 'vets' if you like. they have been at many previous events, they have the knowledge, they work together like clockwork, and the execution is just about perfect. They have little to no questions and just get to 'work' when the go signal i given.
Sound familiar all? if not take a look at your groups. How much fighting did you have in your first 2 months (first years....). The how much after that.
It is a process when you quit, it is a journey. It is not a quick fix, and there is much in life where you can find the similarities (in case you had any questions about it).
keep on learning each and every day, as I have and will continue to do,
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New quitters...... here is a bonus on why you should quit for yourself and no one else, as it so much comes along with it when you make the decision:
October 4th, 1998
I remember this day so vividly. A Sunday morning not forgotten. Was sleeping great and get stirred at about 5:30 in the morning by my wife. See she was pregnant with our first son, due in about a week. She says to be don't be in a panic by her water just broke and she had called her doctor. Well no better statement to beat the affects of coffee than that to wake one up. So that was the start of the day. She was told to take it easy unless contractions started, which they did not, and it might have been around 9 or 10 that we finally went to the hospital. 8+ hours later Alex arrived into our lives.
October 4th 2016
That little one whose foot was no longer than my fore finger, now stands 6'1" and turns 18 today. His boy scout eagle rank paperwork is on its way to the council office. He has turned into one hell of a young man who has experienced so much more than I ever did as a youth. He has been to Europe with the music department (Austria,..). He has worked at the summer camp for now 2 years and as attended a national Jamboree. His social life in school would have made me look like a wall flower (which I was). I know the fight now will be about a close by (5-6 hour) college, but will let that come. As for today we will celebrate (ok tonight as he is in his senior year classes now).
Not sure I have ever been more proud of him today. And I have to say, getting the CPAP and quitting nicotine are the only reasons I am here alive to feel that way, because without doing either one of those I would with high probability be dead today.
***Update
so much in so little of time.
Yes - that 'little kid' got his Boy Scout Eagle Rank
but on an almost even high note - he got accepted into his first choice college, Drew University, into the Honor's Program AND will be continuing his sporting ventures as well by joining the swim team there. Go Ranger Bears....
extremely proud papa
and able to be a part of watching him do this today clean of any nicotine, as that and with getting healthy in other parts of my life, I would most likely not be on this Earth today.
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New quitters...... here is a bonus on why you should quit for yourself and no one else, as it so much comes along with it when you make the decision:
October 4th, 1998
I remember this day so vividly. A Sunday morning not forgotten. Was sleeping great and get stirred at about 5:30 in the morning by my wife. See she was pregnant with our first son, due in about a week. She says to be don't be in a panic by her water just broke and she had called her doctor. Well no better statement to beat the affects of coffee than that to wake one up. So that was the start of the day. She was told to take it easy unless contractions started, which they did not, and it might have been around 9 or 10 that we finally went to the hospital. 8+ hours later Alex arrived into our lives.
October 4th 2016
That little one whose foot was no longer than my fore finger, now stands 6'1" and turns 18 today. His boy scout eagle rank paperwork is on its way to the council office. He has turned into one hell of a young man who has experienced so much more than I ever did as a youth. He has been to Europe with the music department (Austria,..). He has worked at the summer camp for now 2 years and as attended a national Jamboree. His social life in school would have made me look like a wall flower (which I was). I know the fight now will be about a close by (5-6 hour) college, but will let that come. As for today we will celebrate (ok tonight as he is in his senior year classes now).
Not sure I have ever been more proud of him today. And I have to say, getting the CPAP and quitting nicotine are the only reasons I am here alive to feel that way, because without doing either one of those I would with high probability be dead today.
***Update
so much in so little of time.
Yes - that 'little kid' got his Boy Scout Eagle Rank
but on an almost even high note - he got accepted into his first choice college, Drew University, into the Honor's Program AND will be continuing his sporting ventures as well by joining the swim team there. Go Ranger Bears....
extremely proud papa
and able to be a part of watching him do this today clean of any nicotine, as that and with getting healthy in other parts of my life, I would most likely not be on this Earth today.
Now that's the stuff us pops dream of!
Thanks for sharing and you should be damn proud, you my friend obviously set a great example. Congratulations!
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New quitters...... here is a bonus on why you should quit for yourself and no one else, as it so much comes along with it when you make the decision:
October 4th, 1998
I remember this day so vividly. A Sunday morning not forgotten. Was sleeping great and get stirred at about 5:30 in the morning by my wife. See she was pregnant with our first son, due in about a week. She says to be don't be in a panic by her water just broke and she had called her doctor. Well no better statement to beat the affects of coffee than that to wake one up. So that was the start of the day. She was told to take it easy unless contractions started, which they did not, and it might have been around 9 or 10 that we finally went to the hospital. 8+ hours later Alex arrived into our lives.
October 4th 2016
That little one whose foot was no longer than my fore finger, now stands 6'1" and turns 18 today. His boy scout eagle rank paperwork is on its way to the council office. He has turned into one hell of a young man who has experienced so much more than I ever did as a youth. He has been to Europe with the music department (Austria,..). He has worked at the summer camp for now 2 years and as attended a national Jamboree. His social life in school would have made me look like a wall flower (which I was). I know the fight now will be about a close by (5-6 hour) college, but will let that come. As for today we will celebrate (ok tonight as he is in his senior year classes now).
Not sure I have ever been more proud of him today. And I have to say, getting the CPAP and quitting nicotine are the only reasons I am here alive to feel that way, because without doing either one of those I would with high probability be dead today.
***Update
so much in so little of time.
Yes - that 'little kid' got his Boy Scout Eagle Rank
but on an almost even high note - he got accepted into his first choice college, Drew University, into the Honor's Program AND will be continuing his sporting ventures as well by joining the swim team there. Go Ranger Bears....
extremely proud papa
and able to be a part of watching him do this today clean of any nicotine, as that and with getting healthy in other parts of my life, I would most likely not be on this Earth today.
Now that's the stuff us pops dream of!
Thanks for sharing and you should be damn proud, you my friend obviously set a great example. Congratulations!
Congrats on the great news, Dad! You should be real proud!
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New quitters...... here is a bonus on why you should quit for yourself and no one else, as it so much comes along with it when you make the decision:
October 4th, 1998
I remember this day so vividly. A Sunday morning not forgotten. Was sleeping great and get stirred at about 5:30 in the morning by my wife. See she was pregnant with our first son, due in about a week. She says to be don't be in a panic by her water just broke and she had called her doctor. Well no better statement to beat the affects of coffee than that to wake one up. So that was the start of the day. She was told to take it easy unless contractions started, which they did not, and it might have been around 9 or 10 that we finally went to the hospital. 8+ hours later Alex arrived into our lives.
October 4th 2016
That little one whose foot was no longer than my fore finger, now stands 6'1" and turns 18 today. His boy scout eagle rank paperwork is on its way to the council office. He has turned into one hell of a young man who has experienced so much more than I ever did as a youth. He has been to Europe with the music department (Austria,..). He has worked at the summer camp for now 2 years and as attended a national Jamboree. His social life in school would have made me look like a wall flower (which I was). I know the fight now will be about a close by (5-6 hour) college, but will let that come. As for today we will celebrate (ok tonight as he is in his senior year classes now).
Not sure I have ever been more proud of him today. And I have to say, getting the CPAP and quitting nicotine are the only reasons I am here alive to feel that way, because without doing either one of those I would with high probability be dead today.
***Update
so much in so little of time.
Yes - that 'little kid' got his Boy Scout Eagle Rank
but on an almost even high note - he got accepted into his first choice college, Drew University, into the Honor's Program AND will be continuing his sporting ventures as well by joining the swim team there. Go Ranger Bears....
extremely proud papa
and able to be a part of watching him do this today clean of any nicotine, as that and with getting healthy in other parts of my life, I would most likely not be on this Earth today.
Now that's the stuff us pops dream of!
Thanks for sharing and you should be damn proud, you my friend obviously set a great example. Congratulations!
Congrats on the great news, Dad! You should be real proud!
Great news. Congrats all around
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New quitters...... here is a bonus on why you should quit for yourself and no one else, as it so much comes along with it when you make the decision:
October 4th, 1998
I remember this day so vividly. A Sunday morning not forgotten. Was sleeping great and get stirred at about 5:30 in the morning by my wife. See she was pregnant with our first son, due in about a week. She says to be don't be in a panic by her water just broke and she had called her doctor. Well no better statement to beat the affects of coffee than that to wake one up. So that was the start of the day. She was told to take it easy unless contractions started, which they did not, and it might have been around 9 or 10 that we finally went to the hospital. 8+ hours later Alex arrived into our lives.
October 4th 2016
That little one whose foot was no longer than my fore finger, now stands 6'1" and turns 18 today. His boy scout eagle rank paperwork is on its way to the council office. He has turned into one hell of a young man who has experienced so much more than I ever did as a youth. He has been to Europe with the music department (Austria,..). He has worked at the summer camp for now 2 years and as attended a national Jamboree. His social life in school would have made me look like a wall flower (which I was). I know the fight now will be about a close by (5-6 hour) college, but will let that come. As for today we will celebrate (ok tonight as he is in his senior year classes now).
Not sure I have ever been more proud of him today. And I have to say, getting the CPAP and quitting nicotine are the only reasons I am here alive to feel that way, because without doing either one of those I would with high probability be dead today.
***Update
so much in so little of time.
Yes - that 'little kid' got his Boy Scout Eagle Rank
but on an almost even high note - he got accepted into his first choice college, Drew University, into the Honor's Program AND will be continuing his sporting ventures as well by joining the swim team there. Go Ranger Bears....
extremely proud papa
and able to be a part of watching him do this today clean of any nicotine, as that and with getting healthy in other parts of my life, I would most likely not be on this Earth today.
Now that's the stuff us pops dream of!
Thanks for sharing and you should be damn proud, you my friend obviously set a great example. Congratulations!
Congrats on the great news, Dad! You should be real proud!
Great news. Congrats all around
Heck ye, good stuff Derek!
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Wow, 5 years has been reached.
against the odds of the first 100 days as we all fight. against the never ending memories of what it used to be like, against the negativity and loss of the support of those who turned their back on me (for a reason that I see, but cannot fathom, and really no longer care about), I am here.
5 cycles around the sun, trying to live life to its fullest. still forcing myself to learn something new about myself each and every day, learning something to help myself with relationships and other aspects (alcohol and weight) all the time to move forward and make myself a better person.
I still look around to help others but heaven knows not as much as I had at one time. I also look to surround myself closely with those who will not stab me in the back. But in all I look to move ahead to make this world a better place without anyone having to lean on and be addicted to a chemical, that can kill a person.
to those who are new, it is tough and the time seems like it goes so slow, but keep with it. It is so worth being free of the poison, it is worth gaining back your word.
to those who have been around, keep seeing the big picture and the fight to what we all are against (nicotine), cause even at this point we still not alone in this continuing fight. (civility is what I have given and ask)
a journey of 5 years for me has been plentiful, but I still know it is only a start (used for 23 + years, so this is nothing in comparison).
be good, be strong, be clean.
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Wow, 5 years has been reached.
against the odds of the first 100 days as we all fight. against the never ending memories of what it used to be like, against the negativity and loss of the support of those who turned their back on me (for a reason that I see, but cannot fathom, and really no longer care about), I am here.
5 cycles around the sun, trying to live life to its fullest. still forcing myself to learn something new about myself each and every day, learning something to help myself with relationships and other aspects (alcohol and weight) all the time to move forward and make myself a better person.
I still look around to help others but heaven knows not as much as I had at one time. I also look to surround myself closely with those who will not stab me in the back. But in all I look to move ahead to make this world a better place without anyone having to lean on and be addicted to a chemical, that can kill a person.
to those who are new, it is tough and the time seems like it goes so slow, but keep with it. It is so worth being free of the poison, it is worth gaining back your word.
to those who have been around, keep seeing the big picture and the fight to what we all are against (nicotine), cause even at this point we still not alone in this continuing fight. (civility is what I have given and ask)
a journey of 5 years for me has been plentiful, but I still know it is only a start (used for 23 + years, so this is nothing in comparison).
be good, be strong, be clean.
Its great that you are quit.
And you say you are greatfull but you keep posting venom.
99% of the people that read your post will have no idea what you are talking about. But you didn't post quite a few of your comments for them did you.
Why are you still 'stick'
Let it go. Move on. Quit being a victim. You made choices. Live with them. Quit blaming everyone else.
I could be way off base, I was simply reading between the lines.
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Wow, 5 years has been reached.
against the odds of the first 100 days as we all fight. against the never ending memories of what it used to be like, against the negativity and loss of the support of those who turned their back on me (for a reason that I see, but cannot fathom, and really no longer care about), I am here.
5 cycles around the sun, trying to live life to its fullest. still forcing myself to learn something new about myself each and every day, learning something to help myself with relationships and other aspects (alcohol and weight) all the time to move forward and make myself a better person.
I still look around to help others but heaven knows not as much as I had at one time. I also look to surround myself closely with those who will not stab me in the back. But in all I look to move ahead to make this world a better place without anyone having to lean on and be addicted to a chemical, that can kill a person.
to those who are new, it is tough and the time seems like it goes so slow, but keep with it. It is so worth being free of the poison, it is worth gaining back your word.
to those who have been around, keep seeing the big picture and the fight to what we all are against (nicotine), cause even at this point we still not alone in this continuing fight. (civility is what I have given and ask)
a journey of 5 years for me has been plentiful, but I still know it is only a start (used for 23 + years, so this is nothing in comparison).
be good, be strong, be clean.
Its great that you are quit.
And you say you are greatfull but you keep posting venom.
99% of the people that read your post will have no idea what you are talking about. But you didn't post quite a few of your comments for them did you.
Why are you still 'stick'
Let it go. Move on. Quit being a victim. You made choices. Live with them. Quit blaming everyone else.
I could be way off base, I was simply reading between the lines.
Hi -
had sent a PM, but for the others, there is no intended venom in any of that post.
I was hoping to show and give a big picture of the journey that is in process for when we quit and incorporate it into our daily lives. And that includes loss of family members, and other friends here at home who are no longer friends (and that was the hardest to take because our wives are still friends)..
So as said, no venom, no blame..... apologies if it came off that way.
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Wow, 5 years has been reached.
against the odds of the first 100 days as we all fight. against the never ending memories of what it used to be like, against the negativity and loss of the support of those who turned their back on me (for a reason that I see, but cannot fathom, and really no longer care about), I am here.
5 cycles around the sun, trying to live life to its fullest. still forcing myself to learn something new about myself each and every day, learning something to help myself with relationships and other aspects (alcohol and weight) all the time to move forward and make myself a better person.
I still look around to help others but heaven knows not as much as I had at one time. I also look to surround myself closely with those who will not stab me in the back. But in all I look to move ahead to make this world a better place without anyone having to lean on and be addicted to a chemical, that can kill a person.
to those who are new, it is tough and the time seems like it goes so slow, but keep with it. It is so worth being free of the poison, it is worth gaining back your word.
to those who have been around, keep seeing the big picture and the fight to what we all are against (nicotine), cause even at this point we still not alone in this continuing fight. (civility is what I have given and ask)
a journey of 5 years for me has been plentiful, but I still know it is only a start (used for 23 + years, so this is nothing in comparison).
be good, be strong, be clean.
Its great that you are quit.
And you say you are greatfull but you keep posting venom.
99% of the people that read your post will have no idea what you are talking about. But you didn't post quite a few of your comments for them did you.
Why are you still 'stick'
Let it go. Move on. Quit being a victim. You made choices. Live with them. Quit blaming everyone else.
I could be way off base, I was simply reading between the lines.
Hi -
had sent a PM, but for the others, there is no intended venom in any of that post.
I was hoping to show and give a big picture of the journey that is in process for when we quit and incorporate it into our daily lives. And that includes loss of family members, and other friends here at home who are no longer friends (and that was the hardest to take because our wives are still friends)..
So as said, no venom, no blame..... apologies if it came off that way.
Gratz on 5 years, Sir!!!!
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Wow, 5 years has been reached.
against the odds of the first 100 days as we all fight. against the never ending memories of what it used to be like, against the negativity and loss of the support of those who turned their back on me (for a reason that I see, but cannot fathom, and really no longer care about), I am here.
5 cycles around the sun, trying to live life to its fullest. still forcing myself to learn something new about myself each and every day, learning something to help myself with relationships and other aspects (alcohol and weight) all the time to move forward and make myself a better person.
I still look around to help others but heaven knows not as much as I had at one time. I also look to surround myself closely with those who will not stab me in the back. But in all I look to move ahead to make this world a better place without anyone having to lean on and be addicted to a chemical, that can kill a person.
to those who are new, it is tough and the time seems like it goes so slow, but keep with it. It is so worth being free of the poison, it is worth gaining back your word.
to those who have been around, keep seeing the big picture and the fight to what we all are against (nicotine), cause even at this point we still not alone in this continuing fight. (civility is what I have given and ask)
a journey of 5 years for me has been plentiful, but I still know it is only a start (used for 23 + years, so this is nothing in comparison).
be good, be strong, be clean.
Its great that you are quit.
And you say you are greatfull but you keep posting venom.
99% of the people that read your post will have no idea what you are talking about. But you didn't post quite a few of your comments for them did you.
Why are you still 'stick'
Let it go. Move on. Quit being a victim. You made choices. Live with them. Quit blaming everyone else.
I could be way off base, I was simply reading between the lines.
Hi -
had sent a PM, but for the others, there is no intended venom in any of that post.
I was hoping to show and give a big picture of the journey that is in process for when we quit and incorporate it into our daily lives. And that includes loss of family members, and other friends here at home who are no longer friends (and that was the hardest to take because our wives are still friends)..
So as said, no venom, no blame..... apologies if it came off that way.
I see back handed insults in your post.
Am I wrong?
If I'm correct, what are you trying to accomplish.
If I'm reading it wrong, I will leave it alone. Just tell me I'm wrong.
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'party' Congratulations Derek!! 'party' Five years quit is an awesome achievement!
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'party' Congratulations Derek!! 'party' Five years quit is an awesome achievement!
Congrats on 5 years quit SD!!
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'party' Congratulations Derek!! 'party' Five years quit is an awesome achievement!
Congrats on 5 years quit SD!!
Congratulations sir! You my friend are a badass quitter!
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'party' Congratulations Derek!! 'party' Five years quit is an awesome achievement!
Congrats on 5 years quit SD!!
Congratulations sir! You my friend are a badass quitter!
5 ass kickin years - congrats
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Day 1889 -
found a blog posting that I wanted to reference and save, not only for myself but think this can help a lot of other people, and not only with quitting but with different aspects of life.
By now the nicotine craving is really gone, a fleeting wipe just like waving a gnat away. but the other aspects of life got in the way where I was not dealing with them properly. The weight rose, the depression had sunk and the alcohol consumption went skyrocketing. Well my wife and her support jumped in on that last one and made me realize the path I was headed down was a dangerous one (just like it had been with the nicotine where I was escalating to the more than 1 can a day). So I did start to re-do things about it. I put the alcohol aside, I exercise daily now and track my food intake.
It is where that food intake tracking led me to that blog post. It was between weight loss coaches, colleagues, nutritionists, behavior consultants; where they put together a listing of habits that they used with their clients concerning weight loss. Once they had their list, they asked others (coaches) what one out of that list should be at the top. And that number one is:
FINDING PEOPLE TO SHARE YOUR JOURNEY - "Permanent lifestyle changes happen in relationships."
Well not only does this sound strikingly familiar (Brotherhood), but it hit home with me, as since I used it here for getting rid of nicotine, then why not apply the same to the other aspects of my life (I mean if we think about it, AA is the same basis too).
So for the past 2 months have been applying this principle to all aspects of life, as I continue to learn more and more about myself to make me a better person for me, an those around me.
So for all who read this, the magic that can happen here is whether or not you take what is trying to be taught and apply it across your life, to getting rid of nicotine and to better yourself is whatever other aspects you want as well.
Be good, be smart, and be together.
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Wow, hard to believe that 5 years ago I was conducting the train for the Nov12 group with another brother from our month, and not realizing I was coming up on one of the biggest and hardest crashes I went through in my quit. It was post HOF, and post conducting month (along with the holiday season for Thanksgiving and Christmas), that my emotions went from being sky high elation, to being rock bottom and almost going back to the can. It was one brother, from here, that was watching my posts and had called me from out of the blue that brought me back to being on the path.
What brings me to post this I guess is just reading some of the new quitter groups: seeing the drama that is happening between them and the vets that go into and help out (continuously), seeing fantastic posts about personal triumphs that the newbies are making, and those posts that can rip the hearts out of people for loved ones/close friends and neighbors that are lost to this world. It all makes for a very self-reflective and grounding experience.
Just let all of this (my post and the rest), be a huge reminder that (1) Life is precious, so why do anything that would make it shorter... so use this to quit nicotine for good and make your life better and (2) You never have to be alone in anything in life whether it be quitting nicotine, alcohol, any tough times you may encounter... so while you are here, Be A Friend, Make A Friend... isn't life better when you can be in it with friends and family.
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Wow, hard to believe that 5 years ago I was conducting the train for the Nov12 group with another brother from our month, and not realizing I was coming up on one of the biggest and hardest crashes I went through in my quit. It was post HOF, and post conducting month (along with the holiday season for Thanksgiving and Christmas), that my emotions went from being sky high elation, to being rock bottom and almost going back to the can. It was one brother, from here, that was watching my posts and had called me from out of the blue that brought me back to being on the path.
What brings me to post this I guess is just reading some of the new quitter groups: seeing the drama that is happening between them and the vets that go into and help out (continuously), seeing fantastic posts about personal triumphs that the newbies are making, and those posts that can rip the hearts out of people for loved ones/close friends and neighbors that are lost to this world. It all makes for a very self-reflective and grounding experience.
Just let all of this (my post and the rest), be a huge reminder that (1) Life is precious, so why do anything that would make it shorter... so use this to quit nicotine for good and make your life better and (2) You never have to be alone in anything in life whether it be quitting nicotine, alcohol, any tough times you may encounter... so while you are here, Be A Friend, Make A Friend... isn't life better when you can be in it with friends and family.
?? Great post Derek
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Wow, hard to believe that 5 years ago I was conducting the train for the Nov12 group with another brother from our month, and not realizing I was coming up on one of the biggest and hardest crashes I went through in my quit. It was post HOF, and post conducting month (along with the holiday season for Thanksgiving and Christmas), that my emotions went from being sky high elation, to being rock bottom and almost going back to the can. It was one brother, from here, that was watching my posts and had called me from out of the blue that brought me back to being on the path.
What brings me to post this I guess is just reading some of the new quitter groups: seeing the drama that is happening between them and the vets that go into and help out (continuously), seeing fantastic posts about personal triumphs that the newbies are making, and those posts that can rip the hearts out of people for loved ones/close friends and neighbors that are lost to this world. It all makes for a very self-reflective and grounding experience.
Just let all of this (my post and the rest), be a huge reminder that (1) Life is precious, so why do anything that would make it shorter... so use this to quit nicotine for good and make your life better and (2) You never have to be alone in anything in life whether it be quitting nicotine, alcohol, any tough times you may encounter... so while you are here, Be A Friend, Make A Friend... isn't life better when you can be in it with friends and family.
?? Great post Derek
X2 ????
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Wow, hard to believe that 5 years ago I was conducting the train for the Nov12 group with another brother from our month, and not realizing I was coming up on one of the biggest and hardest crashes I went through in my quit. It was post HOF, and post conducting month (along with the holiday season for Thanksgiving and Christmas), that my emotions went from being sky high elation, to being rock bottom and almost going back to the can. It was one brother, from here, that was watching my posts and had called me from out of the blue that brought me back to being on the path.
What brings me to post this I guess is just reading some of the new quitter groups: seeing the drama that is happening between them and the vets that go into and help out (continuously), seeing fantastic posts about personal triumphs that the newbies are making, and those posts that can rip the hearts out of people for loved ones/close friends and neighbors that are lost to this world. It all makes for a very self-reflective and grounding experience.
Just let all of this (my post and the rest), be a huge reminder that (1) Life is precious, so why do anything that would make it shorter... so use this to quit nicotine for good and make your life better and (2) You never have to be alone in anything in life whether it be quitting nicotine, alcohol, any tough times you may encounter... so while you are here, Be A Friend, Make A Friend... isn't life better when you can be in it with friends and family.
?? Great post Derek
X2 ????
X3 'party'
Great stuff, Derek!
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Thanksgiving week.... a time to be thankful
To those who are here, and those looking... we all have so much to be thankful in our lives.
First we come here daily post our word and have removed nicotine from our life. This in of itself is a great task and we all need to be thankful of that....
But I will say as important (if not more so), is to be thankful for those who we come here and meet, the friendships that form, that bond and support that we gain in life, that can extend past just the quitting of nicotine. It is why we say to 'get numbers' and use them. As it starts with the support for quitting nicotine, but that is just a part of the tip of what it can do.
So at this time, be thankful you found this place. Let it lead you to the knowledge that you are not alone, and that it can send you to that path to be a better person in all aspects of life. And that is so worth being thankful for.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
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Thanksgiving week.... a time to be thankful
To those who are here, and those looking... we all have so much to be thankful in our lives.
First we come here daily post our word and have removed nicotine from our life. This in of itself is a great task and we all need to be thankful of that....
But I will say as important (if not more so), is to be thankful for those who we come here and meet, the friendships that form, that bond and support that we gain in life, that can extend past just the quitting of nicotine. It is why we say to 'get numbers' and use them. As it starts with the support for quitting nicotine, but that is just a part of the tip of what it can do.
So at this time, be thankful you found this place. Let it lead you to the knowledge that you are not alone, and that it can send you to that path to be a better person in all aspects of life. And that is so worth being thankful for.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
To you as well Derek! Fight the good fight!
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Day 2,000
or for more precise, the 2,000th day that I am making a promise not to use (did that this morning).
I could say this or that, but I can say that quitting has made me a better person.
And it was all for what I can call the 'large - 3'. First: I made the Decision to quit for myself. Second: I then made the daily Promise not to use for that day. And Third: I Honored my promise and on some days did everything in my power to do so.
And all along I never forget where I came from, and I keep learning something about myself each and every day.
Be good, be smart and live the quit.
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Day 2,000
or for more precise, the 2,000th day that I am making a promise not to use (did that this morning).
I could say this or that, but I can say that quitting has made me a better person.
And it was all for what I can call the 'large - 3'. First: I made the Decision to quit for myself. Second: I then made the daily Promise not to use for that day. And Third: I Honored my promise and on some days did everything in my power to do so.
And all along I never forget where I came from, and I keep learning something about myself each and every day.
Be good, be smart and live the quit.
Wow man! Congrats on that second dangle!
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Day 2,000
or for more precise, the 2,000th day that I am making a promise not to use (did that this morning).
I could say this or that, but I can say that quitting has made me a better person.
And it was all for what I can call the 'large - 3'. First: I made the Decision to quit for myself. Second: I then made the daily Promise not to use for that day. And Third: I Honored my promise and on some days did everything in my power to do so.
And all along I never forget where I came from, and I keep learning something about myself each and every day.
Be good, be smart and live the quit.
Wow man! Congrats on that second dangle!
Congrats SD on your 2x!!
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Day 2,000
or for more precise, the 2,000th day that I am making a promise not to use (did that this morning).
I could say this or that, but I can say that quitting has made me a better person.
And it was all for what I can call the 'large - 3'. First: I made the Decision to quit for myself. Second: I then made the daily Promise not to use for that day. And Third: I Honored my promise and on some days did everything in my power to do so.
And all along I never forget where I came from, and I keep learning something about myself each and every day.
Be good, be smart and live the quit.
Wow man! Congrats on that second dangle!
Congrats SD on your 2x!!
Congratulations Derek!
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Day 2,000
or for more precise, the 2,000th day that I am making a promise not to use (did that this morning).
I could say this or that, but I can say that quitting has made me a better person.
And it was all for what I can call the 'large - 3'. First: I made the Decision to quit for myself. Second: I then made the daily Promise not to use for that day. And Third: I Honored my promise and on some days did everything in my power to do so.
And all along I never forget where I came from, and I keep learning something about myself each and every day.
Be good, be smart and live the quit.
Wow man! Congrats on that second dangle!
Congrats SD on your 2x!!
Congratulations Derek!
Congrats D and thanks for all you do around here!
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Day 2,000
or for more precise, the 2,000th day that I am making a promise not to use (did that this morning).
I could say this or that, but I can say that quitting has made me a better person.
And it was all for what I can call the 'large - 3'. First: I made the Decision to quit for myself. Second: I then made the daily Promise not to use for that day. And Third: I Honored my promise and on some days did everything in my power to do so.
And all along I never forget where I came from, and I keep learning something about myself each and every day.
Be good, be smart and live the quit.
Wow man! Congrats on that second dangle!
Congrats SD on your 2x!!
Congratulations Derek!
Congrats D and thanks for all you do around here!
Congrats brother! Day by day we make the climb to become the best versions of ourselves. Our quit group has evolved into pieces of iron that sharpen each other; each piece its own merit.
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Day 2,000
or for more precise, the 2,000th day that I am making a promise not to use (did that this morning).
I could say this or that, but I can say that quitting has made me a better person.
And it was all for what I can call the 'large - 3'. First: I made the Decision to quit for myself. Second: I then made the daily Promise not to use for that day. And Third: I Honored my promise and on some days did everything in my power to do so.
And all along I never forget where I came from, and I keep learning something about myself each and every day.
Be good, be smart and live the quit.
Wow man! Congrats on that second dangle!
Congrats SD on your 2x!!
Congratulations Derek!
Congrats D and thanks for all you do around here!
Congrats brother! Day by day we make the climb to become the best versions of ourselves. Our quit group has evolved into pieces of iron that sharpen each other; each piece its own merit.
Thanks sir for all that you do and congratulations!
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Day 2,000
or for more precise, the 2,000th day that I am making a promise not to use (did that this morning).
I could say this or that, but I can say that quitting has made me a better person.
And it was all for what I can call the 'large - 3'. First: I made the Decision to quit for myself. Second: I then made the daily Promise not to use for that day. And Third: I Honored my promise and on some days did everything in my power to do so.
And all along I never forget where I came from, and I keep learning something about myself each and every day.
Be good, be smart and live the quit.
Wow man! Congrats on that second dangle!
Congrats SD on your 2x!!
Congratulations Derek!
Congrats D and thanks for all you do around here!
Congrats brother! Day by day we make the climb to become the best versions of ourselves. Our quit group has evolved into pieces of iron that sharpen each other; each piece its own merit.
Thanks sir for all that you do and congratulations!
2 G's Sir Derek, Ye of the kingdom of Badassery!
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Day 2,049 - a different sad post,
ok maybe not totally sad, but a day-after one that will leave an impression (or gap), as to what nicotine does to a person.
I had used that crap for over 23 years. And almost always right in the same place, the right bottom front of the lip. Well even the 5.5+ years quit was not enough to heal. You see the gum recession was too much. The tooth decay under the gum line with the roots partially exposed finally brought on too much pain. And the abscess was just about the final notch as the oral surgeon took a look and said in 99+% of the time the tooth is lost with no hope of healing.
So was time to cut what hopefully is the final loss. Got it extracted and now a few pictures to entrench in my mind as to how stupid I was and to drive me to never turn back. Even the fake that is still in my desk drawer will be passed along or thrown out, to get rid of it.
just wanted to document the feelings, to show those who may still be thinking of quitting or those who are early in their quit to say do it before too much damage is done to yourself.
time to take this gaping smile back and see what options they have, maybe I will look prettier when done???? 'Crazy' roflmao
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Thank you Sir. Despite our best efforts to improve, the past may sneak up and kick us in the ass.
Sometimes, life just takes a shot at us for stuff we've never touched.
It's not what happens, but how we react
That makes us who we are.
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Thank you Sir. Despite our best efforts to improve, the past may sneak up and kick us in the ass.
Sometimes, life just takes a shot at us for stuff we've never touched.
It's not what happens, but how we react
That makes us who we are.
Pimp style with gold teeth, a modern day Knight of Quit!
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Day 2079 - and still continuing to evolve and learn...
as with everything there are time when one needs to follow the general path of life. Think about it when we are young, we need our parents, we do things daily for those years as they tend to us...we follow what they say, but there is evolution. At some point we think on our own, we take what we were taught, what we see outside, and we make our own decisions and path.
When you can do that without the influence of others and when you look in that mirror and what you decide is agreed upon by that person, well that means you are on the right path, and to hell with what the others say,
To thine own self be true....
If anyone wants a true person to stand beside them let me know, I will be right there if you want, like some others that will not be there when you really need it.